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Speaker 3: And them and Tye, welcome back to the solid verbal,

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Speaker 3: Boys and girls, My name is ty hilden Brandt, joining

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Speaker 3: me as always over there in beautiful Chicago, Illinois, the one, the.

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Speaker 4: Only, the incomparable, still the incomparable.

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Speaker 1: Dan Ruberstein sir, how are you hi? Praise I'm good,

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Speaker 1: Ty I am. I'm especially and I'll get into this.

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Speaker 1: I'm especially excited about what the future holds for the

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty one college football season. Oh yeah, so oh yeah.

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Speaker 4: Our friend Bill Connolly is trying to will the chaos

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Speaker 4: of yesteryear into existence. This could just be the year

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Speaker 4: But ultimately, as we dial in our reverbs here, of

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Speaker 4: I are so very excited. So we will play those

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Speaker 4: revers momentarily. If you're just finding the show, Hello, how

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Speaker 2: Mister sec official, how many downs does it take to

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Speaker 2: make Penn stay punt the ball? Let's find out one?

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Speaker 6: Hey, Dan, heyhis missus phillis calling from Rowington, Virginia.

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Speaker 2: Dan Jimmi from Michigan stand ti. This is August calling

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Speaker 2: from Coming Iowa. This is Kevin from New Jersey.

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Speaker 6: This is a very sad Cassie from Chicago Cincinnati tried

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Speaker 6: to hand on you the game today, and this is

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Speaker 6: You're still found a way to lose with three Redstone turnovers.

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Speaker 1: At least we looks.

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Speaker 6: Good losing in our retro adtas uniforms Leo forever Baby.

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Speaker 5: I think it's time for Yukon to ask Paige Becker

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Speaker 5: if she can help them get a win.

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Speaker 3: Ladies and gentlemen, we have a double reversal of fortune.

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Speaker 1: Will the turns it over.

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Speaker 4: To UCF and USUF probably turns it back.

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Speaker 2: Over to a little bow for the Jay winner.

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Speaker 2: This Rutgers defense two weeks in her own playing teams

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Speaker 4: Chart read touchdawn, touchdawn, touchdown, touchdamn, touchdamn touchdown, touchdown, touchdown, touchdown, touch.

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Speaker 6: Game, Go boom.

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Speaker 2: Go Saders and Nick Saban wept for there were no

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Speaker 4: There was a lot to discuss in week three, again,

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Speaker 4: Oh my god, with this version of Florida moving forward.

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Speaker 1: You're not worried about Florida State poisoning the food of Florida.

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Speaker 4: Well, look, this was a good game. It was better

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Speaker 4: This is a fun game, man, This is a fun

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Speaker 4: In the end, I thought both quarterbacks played the game

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Speaker 1: The big thing to me, well, I think you're right

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Speaker 4: We will definitely judge Penn State moving forward now as

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Speaker 4: talk about Michigan State here momentarily. But a lot to

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Speaker 4: digest on the big ten side. Penn State at Iowa.

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Speaker 4: By the way, October ninth, it's coming, man, that's gonna

440
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Speaker 4: be a bigg as we move forward now, Dan, between

441
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Speaker 4: the Alabama and Florida games and the Penn State Auburn game,

442
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Speaker 4: kind of sucking up the oxygen in the room. What

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Speaker 4: else stood out to you? What was your next favorite

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Speaker 4: game of the day.

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Speaker 1: It's a good question. I really liked watching rewatching. I

446
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Speaker 1: guess after the fact the UCLA Fresno states. Why don't

447
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Speaker 1: we go out west? Why don't we go out west?

448
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Speaker 1: Do you want to go as? There was a lot

449
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Speaker 1: of chaos there. I think we know Michigan State Miami's

450
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Speaker 1: were diving into as well. But yeah, we can go

451
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Speaker 1: out west next week we land with them. Let's let's

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Speaker 1: start them.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I mean we often pan over the PAC twelve, yeah,

455
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Speaker 4: and I don't want to do that here because there

456
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Speaker 4: was some chaos, especially in the PAC twelve South. We

457
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Speaker 4: had a couple of games BYU knocks off ASU twenty

458
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Speaker 4: seven to seventeen. We had the Fresno win, the late

459
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Speaker 4: win over UCLA forty to thirty seven. We also had

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Speaker 4: a triple overtime win for San Diego State over with

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Speaker 4: a Philly Special with the Philly Special special. Yeah, with

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Speaker 4: a Philly Special thirty three to thirty one in in

463
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Speaker 4: triple overtime. And then we did have some I guess

464
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Speaker 4: quarterback controversy, if you want to call it that. I

465
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Speaker 4: don't know if maybe we've got one now with usc

466
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Speaker 4: USC was on the road in Pullman had to turn

467
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Speaker 4: Jackson Dart after Keaton Slovas got hurt, and Jackson Dart

468
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Speaker 4: came in and had a pretty good game. But why

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Speaker 4: don't we start with the Fresno win Dan forty to

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Speaker 4: thirty seven. Game was fun as hell. UCLA trailed most

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Speaker 4: of the way. The last seven minutes got weird. Though

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Speaker 4: last seven minutes got real weird, didn't they?

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Speaker 1: They very much did. It seemed like UCLA had a

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Speaker 1: game winning touchdown drive and then they seemed tired on

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Speaker 1: defense and Jake Hayner, who was struggling to move could

476
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Speaker 1: not plant on his front foot, was able to quickly

477
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Speaker 1: lead the Bulldogs down for the game winning touchdown with

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Speaker 1: merely a few seconds left, and so La, I mean,

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Speaker 1: Fresno controlled this game. If you watch back, like Fresno

480
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Speaker 1: really was in the driver's seat. The receivers kept getting open.

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Speaker 1: They really did a great job against UCLA secondary. I

482
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Speaker 1: think it was Jalen Cropper was leading the way. They

483
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Speaker 1: ran well with Ronnie Rivers. Jake Hayner was accurate and

484
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Speaker 1: was unfazed by this UCLA team. And I thought a

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Speaker 1: lot of the credit to Fresno So success goes to

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Speaker 1: what they're able to do upfront, completely limiting UCLA on

487
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Speaker 1: the ground, much like they did with Oregon in the

488
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Speaker 1: first half of that game in Odson Stadium. Fresno's defense

489
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Speaker 1: up front was sensational. I think Zach Charboney finished with

490
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Speaker 1: like six carries for nineteen yards something like that after

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Speaker 1: destroying a couple teams early. So came away crazy impressed

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Speaker 1: with Fresno State. They seem like the class of the

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Speaker 1: Mountain West at this point with how strong they've looked

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Speaker 1: against high level teams. So Ucla made plays. Dtr made plays.

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Speaker 1: He had like the weird crazy fumble where it just

496
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Speaker 1: sort of slipped out of his hand. Yeah, there were

497
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Speaker 1: Greek plays for UCLA that swung this game. Yeah, game

498
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Speaker 1: was fun as hell.

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Speaker 4: Ucla scored a touchdown late fifty four excuse me seconds

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Speaker 4: remaining in the game. They turned the ball over at

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Speaker 4: that point to Fresno. All they got to do is

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Speaker 4: get a stop. Jay Caner only needs forty seconds to

503
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Speaker 4: go to go down and hit his guy, Jalen Cropper,

504
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Speaker 4: who had a monster game.

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Speaker 1: He had fourteen.

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Speaker 4: Catches one hundred and forty one yards in that on touchdown,

507
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Speaker 4: Ucla had trouble defending kind of the corners of the

508
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Speaker 4: end zone for some odd reason, and Fresno marches down

509
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Speaker 4: the field. They end up winning the game by a

510
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Speaker 4: forty to thirty seven score. The pass defense did let

511
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Speaker 4: them down in the end. They need to get that sorted,

512
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Speaker 4: but big win for Fresno and big win for BYU Man. Look,

513
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Speaker 4: I locked up ASU. I've been on ASU for a while.

514
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Speaker 4: Come on, I thought, outside of Arizona State committing four

515
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Speaker 4: turnovers and sixteen penalties, they actually looked okay.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, outside of the fact that they're a poorly coached

517
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Speaker 1: team trying to contend for a division title.

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Speaker 4: It look It was a great scene in Provo. There

519
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Speaker 4: was no letdown after the triumphant victory in.

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Speaker 1: The Holy War.

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Speaker 4: We talk a lot about moments on this show, right,

522
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Speaker 4: moments this and moments that. Stats are of course hollow if.

523
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Speaker 1: You don't win those moments.

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Speaker 4: And I think that's really the cautionary tale of this

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Speaker 4: game because BYUS stats, if you look at the box score,

526
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Speaker 4: if you didn't watch BYU stats aren't gonna blow you away.

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Speaker 4: Here Jaron Hall's numbers quarterback for BYU, he had rather

528
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Speaker 4: pedestrian numbers. He had two touchdowns, two picks, but his

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Speaker 4: athleticism really changed this game. What he was able to

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Speaker 4: do with his legs changed this game. Tyler Algier again

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Speaker 4: average just over three yards per carry, but pulled a

532
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Speaker 4: don beebee in a very critical moment after an interception,

533
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Speaker 4: just jumped up. Not just an interception, a terrible decision

534
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Speaker 4: by Jaron Hall, but Tyler Algiers runs up from behind

535
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Speaker 4: and kind of like catapults himself off the guy who's

536
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Speaker 4: running with the ball. Tomahawk chops the ball out of

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Speaker 4: his hands. BYU recovers. That was arguably the biggest moment

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Speaker 4: of the game.

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Speaker 1: Oh, it was enormous. ASU outgained, they had, they had

540
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Speaker 1: big plays they spread the ball around really nicely on offense.

541
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Speaker 1: But yeah, BYU won those moments, whether it was timely passing,

542
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Speaker 1: it was Gunna Romney had another good game, was able

543
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Speaker 1: to get up above the ASU secondary at times. And

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Speaker 1: Arizona State is just I mean what, they beat the

545
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Speaker 1: hell out of Arizona State at the same time one

546
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Speaker 1: moments in the game beat ASU as well. Yeah, they

547
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Speaker 1: never rise to the moment. No, I mean, they've won

548
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Speaker 1: a couple of those matchups, the non conference matchups, and

549
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Speaker 1: they beat Oregon in what's going to probably end up

550
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Speaker 1: being the signature win of the Herm Edwards era as

551
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Speaker 1: short as it appears it will be. But yeah, they

552
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Speaker 1: hung on against Oregon, which is great a couple of

553
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Speaker 1: years ago with Justin Herbert, and they have those Michigan

554
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Speaker 1: State wins, like the ten to seventy wins the non

555
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Speaker 1: conference part of the schedule. But yeah, against BYU, I

556
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Speaker 1: don't know if it was a look ahead moment. I

557
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Speaker 1: don't know if it was just an assumption that ASU

558
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Speaker 1: is in a much better place as a program than BYU.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's Colorado next week, so it wasn't a

560
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Speaker 1: look ahead situation. UCLA in a couple of weeks. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: ASU is just they're sloppy. They're absolutely sloppy, and with

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Speaker 1: a winnable game in hand, they let it go hand.

563
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Speaker 1: But yeah, no, I hear you had of their winshield.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, speaking of winnable games, here is what BYU's got

565
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Speaker 4: on the docket the rest of the way. USF at

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Speaker 4: Utah State, Boise at Baylor at Wazoo, a game against

567
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Speaker 4: Virginia at home, Idaho State at Georgia Southern at USC.

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Speaker 4: I'm not sounding the alarm of an undefeated BYU. I'm

569
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Speaker 4: not doing that sure, but if there are more than

570
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Speaker 4: two losses on that schedule, in this present version of

571
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Speaker 4: BYU and the way they're playing as a team, I

572
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Speaker 4: would be stunned.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it will say at USC, there's a

574
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Speaker 1: decent chance of the loss. Boise will see and you

575
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Speaker 1: know Virginia is going to be tough. I don't know

576
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Speaker 1: what Virginia schedule looks like around then, but we'll talk

577
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Speaker 1: about the who's in a minute. But yeah, the best

578
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Speaker 1: of BYU can be in a pretty good spot, especially

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Speaker 1: getting Boise Virginia at home.

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Speaker 4: Elsewhere in the PAC twelve, I did want to circle

581
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Speaker 4: back to that San Diego State win. It's notable here

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Speaker 4: Chaz Brewer or a boy got yanked late in the

583
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Speaker 4: third quarter because he just was not effective.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 4: They brought in Cam Rising. He erased a late fourteen

586
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Speaker 4: point deficit and took this one to overtime. Poor Chaz Brewer.

587
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Speaker 4: Man guy thinks he's leaving Baylor to get away from

588
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Speaker 4: the punishment that was burdened upon him by a horrible.

589
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Speaker 1: Baylor offensive line for two years running.

590
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Speaker 4: And he steps into this situation now with Utah where

591
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Speaker 4: the line is better, but really not that much better.

592
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Speaker 4: They're having trouble up front right now. Yeah, the running

593
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Speaker 4: game basically disappeared.

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Speaker 5: Now.

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Speaker 1: San Diego State has a good defense. San Diego State

596
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Speaker 1: is a good defensive team, and they're going to challenge

597
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Speaker 1: a lot of fronts on their schedule. Yeah, but still

598
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Speaker 1: this was not I think the expected experience Utah was

599
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Speaker 1: heading to San Diego. Yeah, USC forty five, WAZU fourteen.

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Speaker 1: Jackson Dart comes in. He's got the eye black thing.

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Speaker 1: He looks like Scar and the Lion King. We'll maybe

602
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Speaker 1: look past that.

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Speaker 4: Just as a college football entity, but it look we're

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Speaker 4: in backup better than the starter territory.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know what the nature of Keaton Slova's

606
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Speaker 1: injury or how long he'll be out. I know he

607
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Speaker 1: was without his helmet. I don't know if that's ahead thing.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I full on do not know the

609
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Speaker 1: extent of it. I haven't seen details yet. I don't know,

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Speaker 1: have you has there been anything. I just thought it

611
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Speaker 1: was a big hit. I saw the hit.

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Speaker 4: I think I read that he will practice this week

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Speaker 4: and they're going to play it by your which is

614
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Speaker 4: as clear as you can get. Yes, we have a

615
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Speaker 4: bit of a quarterback controversy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Jackson Dart true freshman, much in the way that

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Speaker 1: Keaton Slovas entered the situation when a quarterback ahead of

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Speaker 1: him got hurt. It was a late comer in terms

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Speaker 1: of a top recruit, but I think was because was

620
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Speaker 1: one of the few states out west that played football

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Speaker 1: last fall, really really shown with an added spotlight and

622
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Speaker 1: was like a national player of the Year and became

623
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Speaker 1: kind of a hot quarterback name late in the process.

624
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Speaker 1: And USC also had another top quarterback recruit in the class,

625
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Speaker 1: but Jackson Dart clearly the backup and came in made

626
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Speaker 1: a couple of mistakes early that was it wasn't able

627
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Speaker 1: to take advantage of and then got in a really

628
00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:26,000
Speaker 1: nice rhythm within this offense mobile and has a looks

629
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Speaker 1: to be like a pretty strong arm. So USC and

630
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Speaker 1: having one of those good problems where they have potentially

631
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Speaker 1: too many interesting quarterbacks.

632
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Speaker 4: Can you imagine the pun potential of having a quarterback

633
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Speaker 4: with the last name.

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Speaker 1: It's such a good name. It's such a good name.

635
00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:43,000
Speaker 1: Drake Glendon, by the way, need to mention thirteen catches

636
00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:46,360
Speaker 1: for one seventy and two touchdowns. He's gonna have a monster.

637
00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:50,960
Speaker 4: Season elsewhere in the Pac twelve very quickly here six

638
00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:55,120
Speaker 4: other games. Arizona loses to Northern Arizona, No huge surprise there.

639
00:32:56,240 --> 00:33:01,840
Speaker 4: Washington wins big over Arkansas State. Stanford makes it to Vandy. Oregon.

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Speaker 4: Maybe you can talk for a hot minute about Oregon

641
00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:07,360
Speaker 4: and Anthony Brown, but they win forty eight to seven

642
00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:12,080
Speaker 4: over Stony Brook, cal Over Sack State, and Oregon State

643
00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:14,200
Speaker 4: blanks Idaho forty two to nil.

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Speaker 1: Oregon State is somewhat interesting. I don't believe cal is

645
00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:22,040
Speaker 1: going to be that good this year. Oregon struggled in

646
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Speaker 1: the first half, and understandably so because Stony Brook is

647
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:29,360
Speaker 1: an elite of the elite. Now they struggled because there

648
00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:32,000
Speaker 1: was going to be a letdown after the Ohio State game.

649
00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:34,400
Speaker 1: Anthony Brown looked like he was knocked out at the

650
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Speaker 1: very end of the first half, took a couple of

651
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Speaker 1: big hits, and so Ty Thompson, the much heralded true freshman,

652
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Speaker 1: came in and Oregon solely paced away the win. Played

653
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Speaker 1: a lot of youth in the second half. Not much

654
00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:46,880
Speaker 1: to add with that, Tanner McKee, I mean, it's Vandy,

655
00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:50,840
Speaker 1: but Tanner McKee very accurate. Stanford looks like they're moving

656
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:53,320
Speaker 1: in the right direction. We'll see when they take on

657
00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:55,560
Speaker 1: some more difficult opponents. But they certainly looked the part

658
00:33:55,880 --> 00:34:02,160
Speaker 1: against usc Colorado's bad. Yeah, Colorado is. It was like

659
00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:06,480
Speaker 1: one yard per play. Colorado is bad right now. And

660
00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:10,880
Speaker 1: Washington looks strong. It's Arkansas State, but a much needed

661
00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:15,320
Speaker 1: net crack game for Washington, a complete performance, and hopefully

662
00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:18,560
Speaker 1: this means Washington will be more competitive against the best

663
00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:24,800
Speaker 1: teams on their schedule because Montana exists. Yeah, and you

664
00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:29,120
Speaker 1: know that that piece of evidence exists. That is pretty damning.

665
00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:31,600
Speaker 1: And what they were not able to do against Michigan

666
00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:34,280
Speaker 1: as well, So hopefully that that sort of spells for

667
00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:37,719
Speaker 1: optimism and Arizona loss because they're also not good.

668
00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:41,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, you mentioned Colorado sixty three total yards on offense

669
00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:45,640
Speaker 4: and their thirty two nil loss to Minnesota. Why don't

670
00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:46,919
Speaker 4: we hop on over to the Big ten?

671
00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:50,240
Speaker 1: Well, it also Wazoo not all that good, fourteen nothing

672
00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:53,360
Speaker 1: and then did nothing. And after the game, Nick Rolovich

673
00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:56,000
Speaker 1: was asked like, hey, you keep getting out to Leeds

674
00:34:56,120 --> 00:35:00,520
Speaker 1: and just getting demolished in the second half, and he

675
00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:03,440
Speaker 1: sort of was confused. He was like, is that a thing? Oh,

676
00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:06,279
Speaker 1: I haven't even thought about it. Thanks for bringing it up. Yeah,

677
00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:08,160
Speaker 1: I'm like, what what is going on?

678
00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:08,799
Speaker 6: Yeah?

679
00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:12,520
Speaker 1: I was very confused by it. Okay, let's move.

680
00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:17,520
Speaker 4: On Cincinnati thirty eight, Indiana twenty four and Michigan State

681
00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:23,160
Speaker 4: thirty eight Miami seventeen. Outside of the Penn State game,

682
00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:26,160
Speaker 4: and outside of some of the questions maybe that we'll

683
00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:29,600
Speaker 4: have about Ohio State and what we'll want to talk

684
00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:32,640
Speaker 4: about with Michigan, these are the two big games, right.

685
00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:36,239
Speaker 4: So the Cincinnati Indiana game was strange on a couple

686
00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:39,080
Speaker 4: different fronts. And I remember on the preview show, I asked,

687
00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:41,280
Speaker 4: how do you feel about this? Points Bread because pointspread

688
00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:44,640
Speaker 4: was at three and a half in favor of visiting Cincinnati.

689
00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:46,759
Speaker 4: It stayed at three and a half all the way

690
00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:51,200
Speaker 4: up until kickoff. Didn't budget an inch since he came

691
00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:56,040
Speaker 4: out really flat, really flat, and they were dominated by

692
00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:59,040
Speaker 4: Indiana for about twenty eight minutes. They were down fourteen

693
00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:02,600
Speaker 4: to nothing, and then the entire tenor of this game

694
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:06,880
Speaker 4: changed after there was a targeting call late in the

695
00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:12,799
Speaker 4: second quarter against the Hooters. After that, Cincinnati kind of

696
00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:17,200
Speaker 4: finds its life, scored ten straight points at the end

697
00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:21,120
Speaker 4: of the second quarter, go into halftime fourteen to ten.

698
00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:23,840
Speaker 4: They grab the lead in the third quarter.

699
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:24,719
Speaker 1: They go back and.

700
00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:27,719
Speaker 4: Forth with Indiana a little bit, and then eventually they

701
00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:31,120
Speaker 4: pulled away late. I don't want you to get the

702
00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:34,920
Speaker 4: wrong impression of this game. It was not a fun watch, Okay.

703
00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:37,200
Speaker 4: It felt like it took forever.

704
00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:38,000
Speaker 1: Yep.

705
00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:41,600
Speaker 4: There were a lot of mistakes since he never quite

706
00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:45,240
Speaker 4: got over that feeling of being flat, but did enough

707
00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:47,759
Speaker 4: late to pull away and eventually win this one by

708
00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:50,080
Speaker 4: fourteen on the road, which is a good win against

709
00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:54,000
Speaker 4: a big ten team. Sure, it was painful to watch

710
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:57,680
Speaker 4: at points because Michael Pennix, I think confirmed what you

711
00:36:57,719 --> 00:37:00,239
Speaker 4: said on the preview show that he's just it's like

712
00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:04,919
Speaker 4: he's got potential, but he's not right yet. Like had

713
00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:10,520
Speaker 4: three picks in this game. Indiana added a fumble I

714
00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:13,160
Speaker 4: guess a little bit later on in this contest. So

715
00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:16,359
Speaker 4: Indiana still mistake prone. They're fun to watch, their fun

716
00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:18,920
Speaker 4: to root for, but there's just something like they're not

717
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:20,879
Speaker 4: going to be able to recapture that magic, at least

718
00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:23,920
Speaker 4: not yet that we saw in the twenty twenty campaign.

719
00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:27,160
Speaker 4: A bit of a clunker, I think, is how it

720
00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:30,640
Speaker 4: characterized this for Cincinnati one. In the end, it looks

721
00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:33,239
Speaker 4: like it was a lot easier of a win than

722
00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:35,759
Speaker 4: it ended up truly being. If you watch this thing,

723
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:38,080
Speaker 4: but you know you'll take the win on the road

724
00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:40,239
Speaker 4: against a power five team, I think that's what this

725
00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:40,799
Speaker 4: amounts to.

726
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:45,200
Speaker 1: Yes, they had the long kick return which helped to

727
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:48,480
Speaker 1: distance Cincinnati. Desmond Ritter did not look that good with

728
00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:50,279
Speaker 1: his arm, but was able to pick up some key

729
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:56,160
Speaker 1: moments with his legs. The Cincinnati defense, after falling down early,

730
00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:59,719
Speaker 1: looked strong as expected and forced Michael Penis into mistakes.

731
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:03,400
Speaker 1: Much of that last Pennix mistake where man it was

732
00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:05,560
Speaker 1: in slow motion in my head, much like the Emery

733
00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:08,880
Speaker 1: Jones one where I'm just like, not like this, Michael,

734
00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:12,560
Speaker 1: where he's rolling out to his left and throws it

735
00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:15,040
Speaker 1: across his body to the center of the field in

736
00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:17,800
Speaker 1: sort of desperation, like this is not going to against

737
00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:19,479
Speaker 1: a good secondary. It is not going to go well.

738
00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:21,080
Speaker 1: And it didn't. It got picked off in that sort

739
00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:25,000
Speaker 1: of sealed things came away when impressed. This was a

740
00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:29,320
Speaker 1: win Yard Clucker game for Cincinnati. And by the way, Indiana,

741
00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:32,080
Speaker 1: they have Western Kentucky on the road next week after that.

742
00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:34,960
Speaker 1: Are you ready for the defenses that they're going to

743
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:39,960
Speaker 1: face at penn State, Michigan State, Ohio State at Maryland

744
00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:43,640
Speaker 1: at Michigan. Maryland has a good defense. Friends. I don't

745
00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:45,960
Speaker 1: know why I was gonna give a little ad in

746
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:48,319
Speaker 1: at the end there, but they do. Maryland absolutely has

747
00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:52,279
Speaker 1: a good defense. And even those first three games, like

748
00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:56,040
Speaker 1: who starts against Ohio State? Is it Pennix or is

749
00:38:56,080 --> 00:39:00,160
Speaker 1: it other Jack Tuttle or whoever? Like I I'm I

750
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:02,960
Speaker 1: take the money on somebody else, because I don't know

751
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:05,640
Speaker 1: how much longer this can last. Yeah, Like the string

752
00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:10,920
Speaker 1: of defenses if you include Cincinnati, just excluding Western Kentucky,

753
00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:15,879
Speaker 1: it's damn they were going good. The defense, who knows,

754
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:16,520
Speaker 1: they were.

755
00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:21,040
Speaker 4: Going fine for a while and then ye, this was

756
00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:25,520
Speaker 4: a classic example of a game where you are reminded

757
00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:29,360
Speaker 4: that it's a sixty minute contest. Sure sixty minute contests,

758
00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:32,160
Speaker 4: and you got to sustain the intensity the full way through.

759
00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:35,000
Speaker 4: Indiana just couldn't do that. And since he rose to

760
00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:37,040
Speaker 4: the occasion, you know, it wasn't pretty. It was hard

761
00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:39,759
Speaker 4: to watch. Honestly, this game took forever, but in the

762
00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:41,680
Speaker 4: end they get it done thirty eight to twenty four.

763
00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:46,600
Speaker 4: Cincinnati notably has a huge game in South Bend in

764
00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:50,560
Speaker 4: two weeks. They do, and that is amid a little

765
00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:52,239
Speaker 4: string of games here for Notre Dame that I'm going

766
00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:56,680
Speaker 4: to talk about momentarily. But Cincinnati will have another opportunity

767
00:39:56,760 --> 00:40:00,799
Speaker 4: to get themselves in the national spotlight. And and you know,

768
00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:04,120
Speaker 4: we can maybe pretend that they have a playoff chance.

769
00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:07,600
Speaker 1: I don't know. But a wins a win, you'll take

770
00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:09,080
Speaker 1: it on the road. A wins a win you win

771
00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:11,799
Speaker 1: by double digits against a big ten team because you

772
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:14,320
Speaker 1: need to perform in those bigger moments against bigger teams.

773
00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:16,920
Speaker 1: Great and Indiana started the season as a top twenty

774
00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:20,760
Speaker 1: team and the path to a bowl is getting dicey,

775
00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:24,240
Speaker 1: it is getting narrow. Speaking of winning by double digits,

776
00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:28,359
Speaker 1: not over a Big ten team, but over Miami. I

777
00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:30,560
Speaker 1: called out Michigan State. I said, I like them outright

778
00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:34,480
Speaker 1: in fairness, this was a close game. This was seventeen

779
00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:38,120
Speaker 1: to fourteen until the fourth quarter, and that's when Sparty

780
00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:40,680
Speaker 1: went on this crazy run twenty one to three.

781
00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:44,560
Speaker 4: Quite literally, yeah, quite literally, twenty one to three run

782
00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:47,200
Speaker 4: in the fourth quarter. They win this one going away.

783
00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:51,960
Speaker 4: Another impressive showing for Sparty. Peyton Thorn and this rushing

784
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:57,359
Speaker 4: attack looks really legit. Thorn had four touchdowns two sixty one,

785
00:40:57,600 --> 00:41:02,279
Speaker 4: didn't commit any errors. Kenneth Walker the third now a

786
00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:05,760
Speaker 4: dude with a capital D one seventy two rushing.

787
00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:07,040
Speaker 1: He caught a touchdown as well.

788
00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:12,640
Speaker 4: This is Miami's worst home non conference loss since nineteen

789
00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:16,760
Speaker 4: ninety six. Miami is I don't think in a good place.

790
00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:20,920
Speaker 4: Derek King had numbers, but four turnovers to touchdown or

791
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:26,920
Speaker 4: two interceptions zone yeah, fobbles, yeah, so two ships kind

792
00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:30,080
Speaker 4: of passing in the night, going in different directions. Michigan

793
00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:33,480
Speaker 4: State with a lot of wind at its back. I

794
00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:38,600
Speaker 4: think a workable schedule over their next four games Nebraska, Western, Kentucky,

795
00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:39,720
Speaker 4: Rutgers in Indiana.

796
00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:41,840
Speaker 1: They can win those games and.

797
00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:44,960
Speaker 4: Miami in a place now where we thought with the

798
00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:48,560
Speaker 4: veteran presence coming back this season, we thought, with you know,

799
00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:51,240
Speaker 4: another full off season under Manny Diaz, that this program

800
00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:53,120
Speaker 4: was going to be in a much different spot. But

801
00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:56,520
Speaker 4: thus far they have just failed to deliver.

802
00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:01,280
Speaker 1: Miami looks like a six win team. Miami just looks

803
00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:03,680
Speaker 1: They're too sloppy on both sides of the ball. The

804
00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:06,560
Speaker 1: tackling issues, the offensive line is a nightmare once again,

805
00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:08,920
Speaker 1: the mistakes on offense, and they've got a you know,

806
00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:12,400
Speaker 1: Charleston Rambo was awesome, Like there are just individuals on

807
00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:16,440
Speaker 1: this team who are incredible and rise to moments and

808
00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:18,959
Speaker 1: make plays and keep Miami in the game. Their kicker

809
00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:23,240
Speaker 1: nailed like a fifty plus yarder again Borogalis. But Michigan

810
00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:25,319
Speaker 1: State just looks like a team. It looked good, just

811
00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:28,840
Speaker 1: especially teams that you know, it's sort of close heading

812
00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:31,160
Speaker 1: into the fourth quarter and then they just rip it open.

813
00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:34,320
Speaker 1: It speaks to focus, it speaks to discipline, it speaks

814
00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:38,880
Speaker 1: to they're just in shape, they're just the stamina is

815
00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:41,200
Speaker 1: there for Michigan State. So to go to Miami for

816
00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:43,919
Speaker 1: Michigan State, especially given the depths to which they fell

817
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:46,840
Speaker 1: these past few years. I did not see Peyton Thorn

818
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:50,520
Speaker 1: performing on this level. Jalen Naylor was really good, big plays.

819
00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:54,120
Speaker 1: I just I came away crazy impressed. And as Bill

820
00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:57,359
Speaker 1: Connolly mentioned on our Friday show, the Big ten right now,

821
00:42:57,440 --> 00:43:00,279
Speaker 1: especially with Ohio State's vulnerability, which we can to in

822
00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:05,560
Speaker 1: a second, I mean Michigan, Michigan State, Penn State, Wisconsin, Iowa,

823
00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:09,320
Speaker 1: like it's there. It's just I mean even I'm just

824
00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:11,279
Speaker 1: gonna say even Maryland. Maryland has the defense like there

825
00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:14,880
Speaker 1: are guys on offense, like there are just everybody is

826
00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:19,880
Speaker 1: sort of a most not everybody. There is the highest

827
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:24,359
Speaker 1: chunk to me of mostly built megazords. Right, maybe they're

828
00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:27,680
Speaker 1: leaning in one direction or something like that, but yeah,

829
00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:30,560
Speaker 1: really impressive. What these Big ten teams, these you know,

830
00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:32,880
Speaker 1: top five or six teams are going to do to

831
00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:37,479
Speaker 1: each other. Can't wait because Michigan State is I think

832
00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:41,440
Speaker 1: early on this year, is there a team as unexpectedly

833
00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:44,920
Speaker 1: good as Michigan State of Power five teams or otherwise, No,

834
00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:47,680
Speaker 1: it's tough to find. No, No, you can't Michigan State

835
00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:50,120
Speaker 1: has done really really well here through.

836
00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:53,280
Speaker 4: Good job by Meltalker, really impressive. Yeah, you mentioned Ohio

837
00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:56,160
Speaker 4: State forty one to twenty. Don't look at that score.

838
00:43:56,680 --> 00:43:58,560
Speaker 4: Don't look at that score and glean too much into

839
00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:01,879
Speaker 4: this game. So they pulled away late, but they had

840
00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:04,239
Speaker 4: a hard time doing it. This one was twenty seven

841
00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:06,680
Speaker 4: to twenty until three minutes left in the fourth quarter.

842
00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:10,279
Speaker 4: Credit to Traveon Henderson, the true freshman who is just

843
00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:15,719
Speaker 4: speaking of megazoids. Twenty four carriers, two hundred and seventy

844
00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:18,120
Speaker 4: seven yards and three touchdowns. They had no answer for him.

845
00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:19,640
Speaker 4: My guess is that you're going to see a lot

846
00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:23,440
Speaker 4: of Trevion Henderson this year. But yes, Tulsa's got a

847
00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:26,600
Speaker 4: good defense. Man, We've got a good defense. We warned

848
00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:29,120
Speaker 4: everybody going into this game. Don't take it for granted.

849
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:31,440
Speaker 4: I think Ohio State was like a twenty five or

850
00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:34,600
Speaker 4: twenty six point favorite going in. We both kind of

851
00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:39,560
Speaker 4: like Tulsa given that circumstance. Matt Barnes notably called the

852
00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:42,480
Speaker 4: plays for the Ohio State defense. You'll recall there was

853
00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:46,440
Speaker 4: a little bit of controversy with regard to Kerry Coombs,

854
00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:49,520
Speaker 4: still the defensive coordinator, but after a bit of a

855
00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:52,520
Speaker 4: rocky start, they handed the play calling duties over to Barnes,

856
00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:56,560
Speaker 4: and I, look, I guess did fine for whatever it was.

857
00:44:56,600 --> 00:44:59,600
Speaker 4: I had more questions about the offense really getting gone,

858
00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:04,080
Speaker 4: kind of getting out of the mud here Again, I

859
00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:05,880
Speaker 4: think it speaks to the question we asked at the

860
00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:10,520
Speaker 4: very top of the show, is Ohio State more vulnerable?

861
00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:13,040
Speaker 4: I think we kind of knew the answer to that

862
00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:16,040
Speaker 4: question after the first couple games. I think we both

863
00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:18,640
Speaker 4: were trending in the direction of yes. But this is

864
00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:21,680
Speaker 4: another indication that Ohio State is still very good. They

865
00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:23,760
Speaker 4: have a ton of talent. They're going to be fine. Ultimately,

866
00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:27,800
Speaker 4: they're going to win double digits. But with the way

867
00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:30,680
Speaker 4: that the Big ten East is looking more formidable now

868
00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:33,200
Speaker 4: with Penn State and Michigan State and Michigan and even Maryland,

869
00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:36,200
Speaker 4: is he rightfully called out, it's not going to be

870
00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:38,920
Speaker 4: as smooth as sailing for Ohio State as we may

871
00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:39,719
Speaker 4: have initially thought.

872
00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:44,080
Speaker 1: Look, it's still early, right, it's still early. With a

873
00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:48,720
Speaker 1: new quarterback and a number of full time pieces still

874
00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:49,800
Speaker 1: getting their feet wet.

875
00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:51,440
Speaker 2: CJ.

876
00:45:51,640 --> 00:45:56,360
Speaker 1: Stroud looks ambivalent a little too often for me, considering

877
00:45:56,440 --> 00:45:59,319
Speaker 1: the line in front of him and the receivers he

878
00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:02,480
Speaker 1: has at his disposal, Like, there's just he looks a

879
00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:05,719
Speaker 1: little bit a rhythmic to me. And I don't know

880
00:46:05,719 --> 00:46:08,200
Speaker 1: if that's just an early season young quarterback, you know,

881
00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:12,600
Speaker 1: getting used to things kind of thing. Defensively, I guess

882
00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:14,440
Speaker 1: they looked a little bit better, But you're right. The

883
00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:16,799
Speaker 1: story was the offense and the amount of time it

884
00:46:16,840 --> 00:46:19,840
Speaker 1: took to realize let's just give it to Trayvon Henderson.

885
00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:22,880
Speaker 1: Let's just give it to Travon Henderson. Almost shades of

886
00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:25,600
Speaker 1: the game against Northwestern last year, different rhythm to it,

887
00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:27,239
Speaker 1: but when like, oh, let's just give it to Trey

888
00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:29,680
Speaker 1: Sermon and he ran for whatever it was three hundred

889
00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:33,600
Speaker 1: yards and Travon Henderson nearly did that. And Henderson just

890
00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:37,200
Speaker 1: looks like one of the three or four best running

891
00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:38,520
Speaker 1: backs in college football already.

892
00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:43,400
Speaker 4: So he's got a very up first step, yeah, or

893
00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:46,200
Speaker 4: I should say after his foot in the ground, as

894
00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:48,799
Speaker 4: everyone likes to say on the broadcast, after he puts

895
00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:51,279
Speaker 4: that foot in the ground, he just has an incredible

896
00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:53,160
Speaker 4: first step to get up to full.

897
00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:55,080
Speaker 1: Speed and it just makes him so dangerous.

898
00:46:55,120 --> 00:46:59,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, he looks very much the part and I was

899
00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:01,400
Speaker 4: waiting for a game this from him, to see him.

900
00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:02,840
Speaker 1: Be more involved in the offense.

901
00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:05,279
Speaker 4: And look, they got a big performance from him.

902
00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:08,640
Speaker 1: They needed it. There's no doubt about it, no about it.

903
00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:11,799
Speaker 1: Here's the full list of tough road games Ohio State

904
00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:15,080
Speaker 1: has before they traveled to Ann Arbor. There was there

905
00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:17,719
Speaker 1: was the full list that I just read out for you.

906
00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:21,360
Speaker 1: So I don't know as accordingly at Rutgers, at Indiana,

907
00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:26,319
Speaker 1: at Nebraska. I think I'm still feeling fairly good about

908
00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:28,640
Speaker 1: Ohio State. But it's just different. It's a different Buckeye

909
00:47:28,719 --> 00:47:31,960
Speaker 1: experience through a few weeks. We'll talk about Nebraska here

910
00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:33,480
Speaker 1: in a little bit. When we get to the Big twelve.

911
00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:36,200
Speaker 4: Let's round out the Big ten very quickly. Maryland wins

912
00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:40,120
Speaker 4: on a last second field goal twenty to seventeen over Illinois.

913
00:47:40,160 --> 00:47:45,120
Speaker 1: That one was played earlier in all defense. Really yep. Yeah.

914
00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:48,240
Speaker 4: Rutgers wins over the Delaware Blue Hens forty five thirteen.

915
00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:51,400
Speaker 4: You mentioned the Minnesota Colorado game. I'll just call it

916
00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:54,880
Speaker 4: out quick, thirty to nil. Minnesota wins. Trays and Potts

917
00:47:54,920 --> 00:47:58,160
Speaker 4: looks pretty good again filling in for mo Ibraheim.

918
00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:00,920
Speaker 1: I don't think it means much either way. From Minnesota,

919
00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:04,760
Speaker 1: I think Colorado's that bad. So yes, good pitch a shutout. Great.

920
00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:08,920
Speaker 4: Iowa wins thirty to seven over Kent State Tyler Goodson

921
00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:12,719
Speaker 4: one fifty three to three touchdowns. We will talk more

922
00:48:12,760 --> 00:48:15,000
Speaker 4: about Iowa moving forward, but it may be time for

923
00:48:15,120 --> 00:48:17,000
Speaker 4: us to dust off the talking to your kids about

924
00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:19,800
Speaker 4: Iowa dot com domain that we still own as of

925
00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:20,960
Speaker 4: about twenty fifteen.

926
00:48:21,040 --> 00:48:22,000
Speaker 1: They look really good.

927
00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:23,800
Speaker 4: They're going to continue to move up in the polls.

928
00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:28,720
Speaker 4: Michigan looks really good. Dan Michigan sixty three to seven,

929
00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:32,879
Speaker 4: sixty three to ten, excuse me, over Northern Illinois. They

930
00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:38,239
Speaker 4: scored nine straight touchdowns to open up this game, three

931
00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:41,240
Speaker 4: hundred and seventy three yards and eight touchdowns on the ground.

932
00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:45,040
Speaker 4: That includes one twenty five and three scores for Blake Korum,

933
00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:48,920
Speaker 4: who looks ridiculous. Michigan has Rutgers next week, and then

934
00:48:48,920 --> 00:48:50,759
Speaker 4: they go on the road to play Wisconsin, which is

935
00:48:50,800 --> 00:48:54,360
Speaker 4: going to be probably their first taste over real defense.

936
00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:58,040
Speaker 4: But Michigan for their part thus far, looks really really good.

937
00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:00,960
Speaker 1: Washington as a real defense, Washington just doesn't have a

938
00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:03,360
Speaker 1: real offense, correct, thank you? Yeah.

939
00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:07,920
Speaker 4: And finally, Notre Dame twenty seven Perdue thirteen. Any thoughts

940
00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:08,720
Speaker 4: on those other.

941
00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:12,520
Speaker 1: Games before I go off about Notre Dame Iowa looked

942
00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:16,320
Speaker 1: kind of sloppy on offense, but Tyler Goodson got loose,

943
00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:20,040
Speaker 1: so that was nice. And it's fine. You win by

944
00:49:20,520 --> 00:49:23,120
Speaker 1: what twenty some odd points and hold Kent State down.

945
00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:25,799
Speaker 1: That's what a really good team should do. I'm still

946
00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:28,640
Speaker 1: worried about Spencer Petris and big moments, and you know,

947
00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:32,640
Speaker 1: if the game's on his arm. Michigan did what it

948
00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:34,880
Speaker 1: should do. I think we've kind of seen this story

949
00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:38,759
Speaker 1: though before with Michigan, where they're just smashing these down Dames.

950
00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:41,040
Speaker 1: Northern ILLOI didn't win a game last year, I don't believe,

951
00:49:41,400 --> 00:49:43,319
Speaker 1: so they're in a tough spot. Although they did beat

952
00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:45,360
Speaker 1: who they beat early, Georgia Tech. Is that who they

953
00:49:45,400 --> 00:49:52,040
Speaker 1: Beata went for two. Michigan absolutely did what a top

954
00:49:52,080 --> 00:49:55,359
Speaker 1: team should do. If indeed Michigan is a top team.

955
00:49:55,920 --> 00:49:58,320
Speaker 1: I'd like to see that on Cade McNamara's arm against

956
00:49:58,320 --> 00:50:02,400
Speaker 1: some better defenses before I fully come around to Michigan.

957
00:50:02,560 --> 00:50:05,640
Speaker 1: But Blake corm is a really impressive running back. He's

958
00:50:05,680 --> 00:50:10,080
Speaker 1: a very impressive dude, and just I think Michigan adds

959
00:50:10,120 --> 00:50:13,080
Speaker 1: to the intrigue of the Big Ten, and I'm pulling

960
00:50:13,160 --> 00:50:15,880
Speaker 1: up their season right now. But now otherwise, Yeah, Rutgers

961
00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:19,680
Speaker 1: is three and Oh, by the way, Northwestern had terrible

962
00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:21,600
Speaker 1: quarterback play for a majority of this game and kind

963
00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:22,879
Speaker 1: of made a game of it in the second half

964
00:50:22,880 --> 00:50:25,560
Speaker 1: against Duke. But that's a kind of a terrible loss

965
00:50:25,760 --> 00:50:28,239
Speaker 1: for the Big Ten in Northwestern because Duke has been

966
00:50:28,280 --> 00:50:33,279
Speaker 1: extremely down. And yeah, I'm pulling up what did the

967
00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:39,400
Speaker 1: Michigan's schedule right now? Michigan has moving forward. As you mentioned,

968
00:50:39,480 --> 00:50:43,080
Speaker 1: Rutgers at Wisconsin is going to be huge. At Nebraska,

969
00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:46,760
Speaker 1: we'll see that's a good defense of Michigan's offense performs

970
00:50:46,760 --> 00:50:50,400
Speaker 1: against the Huskers. That's impressive. Northwestern, who I'm sort of

971
00:50:50,440 --> 00:50:53,040
Speaker 1: downgrading at the moment at Michigan State Halloween weekend is

972
00:50:53,080 --> 00:50:56,279
Speaker 1: going to be choice tie Indiana at home at Penn

973
00:50:56,280 --> 00:50:58,360
Speaker 1: State at Maryland Ohio State. So a tough way to

974
00:50:58,400 --> 00:51:02,960
Speaker 1: finish things off, but I'm encouraged, encouraged by what I've

975
00:51:02,960 --> 00:51:03,560
Speaker 1: seen so far.

976
00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:07,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, Notre Dame one by fourteen at home over Purdue

977
00:51:07,520 --> 00:51:08,759
Speaker 4: Perdue never got the drum in.

978
00:51:09,080 --> 00:51:12,320
Speaker 1: By the way, for those of you wondering, lame continue.

979
00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:15,600
Speaker 4: Bastards didn't let the drum in, which is stupid, but whatever.

980
00:51:17,080 --> 00:51:19,080
Speaker 4: This is a third straight game now for Notre Dame

981
00:51:19,080 --> 00:51:21,319
Speaker 4: where it felt like if a few plays go the

982
00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:23,920
Speaker 4: other way, they're going to lose. It was definitely not

983
00:51:23,960 --> 00:51:26,040
Speaker 4: as close as the previous two games that they played in,

984
00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:29,840
Speaker 4: notably against Florida State and then last week against Toledo,

985
00:51:29,960 --> 00:51:33,000
Speaker 4: but hung in the balance here for a little bit.

986
00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:36,240
Speaker 4: The biggest issue for Notre Dame's the offensive line, which

987
00:51:36,280 --> 00:51:39,440
Speaker 4: is crazy to say given that that's been a relative

988
00:51:39,440 --> 00:51:42,839
Speaker 4: strength for them over the last I can't even tell

989
00:51:42,880 --> 00:51:44,680
Speaker 4: you how many years now. It's really been a staple

990
00:51:44,719 --> 00:51:46,960
Speaker 4: of the Brian Kelly era, how he's built up that line.

991
00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:49,800
Speaker 4: But they're dealing with injuries. They had a third stringer

992
00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:53,080
Speaker 4: at left tackle, They've got guys playing out of position

993
00:51:53,160 --> 00:51:56,960
Speaker 4: up front. It's just it's not a great situation on

994
00:51:57,040 --> 00:51:59,040
Speaker 4: the line right now for Notre Dame, especially for a

995
00:51:59,080 --> 00:52:01,560
Speaker 4: team that we thought was going to build its entire

996
00:52:01,600 --> 00:52:05,760
Speaker 4: offense around the rushing attack of Kyen Williams and Chris Tyree.

997
00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:10,400
Speaker 1: So what you're saying is Harry high stand retroactive Broyles

998
00:52:10,400 --> 00:52:12,919
Speaker 1: Award winner. Bring him back now that it now that

999
00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:16,000
Speaker 1: we know what Notre Dame's offensive line has looked like

1000
00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:18,200
Speaker 1: without him for a couple of years. Yeah, if not

1001
00:52:18,280 --> 00:52:20,800
Speaker 1: for one big rushing play by Karen Williams, they wouldn't

1002
00:52:20,840 --> 00:52:24,640
Speaker 1: have been over one hundred yards on the ground. Defense

1003
00:52:24,680 --> 00:52:27,840
Speaker 1: also still a work in progress, but you know, as

1004
00:52:27,880 --> 00:52:31,240
Speaker 1: long as they've got Kyle Hamilton back there, who remains

1005
00:52:31,280 --> 00:52:33,359
Speaker 1: a machine and is in on every play and had

1006
00:52:33,360 --> 00:52:37,120
Speaker 1: a pick in this game. A work in progress. Still

1007
00:52:37,120 --> 00:52:40,839
Speaker 1: giving up too many big plays and key situations. But

1008
00:52:40,880 --> 00:52:43,359
Speaker 1: the thing about Notre Dame is this, if you look

1009
00:52:43,400 --> 00:52:45,040
Speaker 1: at the schedule, and I'm not going to analyze the

1010
00:52:45,040 --> 00:52:46,560
Speaker 1: schedule here, I want to move on and talk about

1011
00:52:46,560 --> 00:52:47,080
Speaker 1: the Big twelve.

1012
00:52:47,640 --> 00:52:52,400
Speaker 4: If Notre Dame is ten to fifteen percent better across

1013
00:52:52,440 --> 00:52:57,319
Speaker 4: the board, they go undefeed it ten to fifteen percent better.

1014
00:52:57,360 --> 00:53:02,080
Speaker 4: So Nax and Dart friend, they're not that far off. Okay,

1015
00:53:02,920 --> 00:53:05,120
Speaker 4: ten to fifteen percent better, most of that coming along

1016
00:53:05,120 --> 00:53:08,120
Speaker 4: the offensive line. But of the remaining teams in the schedule,

1017
00:53:08,640 --> 00:53:12,960
Speaker 4: Cincinnati looked vulnerable. You can beat USC at home, Virginia

1018
00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:13,799
Speaker 4: Tech like who knows.

1019
00:53:13,719 --> 00:53:16,120
Speaker 1: What Virginia yah their home road splits are great. Yeah,

1020
00:53:16,200 --> 00:53:17,560
Speaker 1: I mean Wisconsin's neutral.

1021
00:53:17,560 --> 00:53:20,080
Speaker 4: But yeah, let's just leave it at that and let's

1022
00:53:20,160 --> 00:53:23,160
Speaker 4: move on and we'll talk about the Big twelve. Talk

1023
00:53:23,200 --> 00:53:30,960
Speaker 4: to me about the Oklahoma Nebraska game, because Oklahoma wins

1024
00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:35,560
Speaker 4: the game twenty three to sixteen. But Nebraska did something

1025
00:53:35,560 --> 00:53:37,000
Speaker 4: in this game that I think is a bit of

1026
00:53:37,000 --> 00:53:40,879
Speaker 4: a blueprint for other defenses, and that is they hung back.

1027
00:53:41,480 --> 00:53:45,080
Speaker 4: They did not give any huge explosive plays to Spencer Rattler.

1028
00:53:45,680 --> 00:53:48,160
Speaker 4: They made him sit back and wait, and they had

1029
00:53:48,200 --> 00:53:50,719
Speaker 4: a lot of success with that. H This is a

1030
00:53:50,760 --> 00:53:54,560
Speaker 4: defensive game through and through, and Nebraska did just a

1031
00:53:54,600 --> 00:53:58,400
Speaker 4: really good job of taking away the big play and

1032
00:53:58,440 --> 00:53:59,920
Speaker 4: they gave themselves a chance because of it.

1033
00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:01,239
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1034
00:54:01,239 --> 00:54:03,680
Speaker 1: I mean they also have the pieces on defense to

1035
00:54:03,760 --> 00:54:06,239
Speaker 1: do it, and that's a big deal that Nebraska has

1036
00:54:06,280 --> 00:54:09,000
Speaker 1: developed the guys, especially in the back end, to run

1037
00:54:09,040 --> 00:54:14,280
Speaker 1: with teams like Oklahoma. Yeah, Nebraska's issue is not defense,

1038
00:54:14,400 --> 00:54:17,880
Speaker 1: as we've talked about, and they did a good job

1039
00:54:17,880 --> 00:54:20,480
Speaker 1: in this game, as you mentioned, keeping Oklahoma in front

1040
00:54:20,520 --> 00:54:23,560
Speaker 1: of them and on the Oklahoma side. We sort of

1041
00:54:23,560 --> 00:54:26,560
Speaker 1: talked about this before the season, Like outside of Rattler,

1042
00:54:26,920 --> 00:54:28,719
Speaker 1: I just I don't think they have dudes in the

1043
00:54:28,760 --> 00:54:30,560
Speaker 1: way that they used to be it a running back

1044
00:54:30,640 --> 00:54:33,040
Speaker 1: or receiver or on the offensive line. At the moment,

1045
00:54:33,080 --> 00:54:37,520
Speaker 1: their line's fine, it's not an issue. But the hallmark

1046
00:54:37,560 --> 00:54:39,680
Speaker 1: of this Oklahoma team these past few years has been

1047
00:54:39,719 --> 00:54:44,440
Speaker 1: creativity and developing guys into game breakers. And they ran

1048
00:54:44,480 --> 00:54:49,000
Speaker 1: the ball all right, impressively at times, but nothing crazy.

1049
00:54:49,239 --> 00:54:51,759
Speaker 1: And Spencer Ratler presses a little bit too much and

1050
00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:55,160
Speaker 1: it's still good and has a crazy arm, but was

1051
00:54:55,239 --> 00:54:58,439
Speaker 1: really unable to get into a rhythm, and it was weird.

1052
00:54:58,440 --> 00:54:59,960
Speaker 1: It was what a three touchdown spread?

1053
00:55:00,200 --> 00:55:03,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, twenty three, I think is where it settled before kickoff.

1054
00:55:03,760 --> 00:55:06,719
Speaker 1: With one member of this show extremely confident in that cover.

1055
00:55:06,840 --> 00:55:10,799
Speaker 1: You were now you were already taking the points, but no,

1056
00:55:10,880 --> 00:55:12,880
Speaker 1: I just came away. You know, Adrew Martinez is going

1057
00:55:12,960 --> 00:55:16,400
Speaker 1: to make in that sort of brock Purty mold three

1058
00:55:16,440 --> 00:55:19,840
Speaker 1: to five awful decisions with the ball down field, but

1059
00:55:19,880 --> 00:55:22,600
Speaker 1: also make some good passes, which is what Adrew Martinez

1060
00:55:22,600 --> 00:55:24,480
Speaker 1: was able to do, which one of them, by the way,

1061
00:55:25,040 --> 00:55:28,280
Speaker 1: was with a Gus Johnson call that included the word drop.

1062
00:55:28,760 --> 00:55:30,480
Speaker 1: If you were going to use the word drop in

1063
00:55:30,520 --> 00:55:33,960
Speaker 1: a call, and it's not a receiver dropping it, maybe

1064
00:55:34,080 --> 00:55:36,319
Speaker 1: go with another I know it's tough in the moment,

1065
00:55:36,360 --> 00:55:38,560
Speaker 1: but he was like and he dropped sit into the

1066
00:55:38,600 --> 00:55:41,840
Speaker 1: box like Okay, took a lot of emotions in that

1067
00:55:42,680 --> 00:55:45,359
Speaker 1: Adrian Martinez made plays with his feet, bought time through

1068
00:55:45,400 --> 00:55:48,960
Speaker 1: an interception that was an incredible, incredible play from the

1069
00:55:49,000 --> 00:55:51,120
Speaker 1: Oklahoma dB. And I know people were saying, like, well,

1070
00:55:51,120 --> 00:55:53,080
Speaker 1: it's fourth and eighteen, you probably should just like swatted

1071
00:55:53,120 --> 00:55:56,040
Speaker 1: it down. Let's just appreciate athleticism people. I love you know,

1072
00:55:56,080 --> 00:55:57,520
Speaker 1: I love Gus. You know I love it.

1073
00:55:57,560 --> 00:56:02,960
Speaker 4: Yes, Gus is getting to the point of WWE ring announcer.

1074
00:56:03,280 --> 00:56:04,400
Speaker 4: He's getting very close.

1075
00:56:05,440 --> 00:56:08,839
Speaker 1: He's reading the clippings, He's getting very close to it.

1076
00:56:08,960 --> 00:56:10,080
Speaker 1: I love Gus though I.

1077
00:56:09,960 --> 00:56:13,200
Speaker 4: Love the emotions. By the way I should, I should

1078
00:56:13,200 --> 00:56:15,480
Speaker 4: mention that Oklahoma's defense was also very good. I don't

1079
00:56:15,480 --> 00:56:17,279
Speaker 4: know if I mentioned that, but their their defense was

1080
00:56:17,360 --> 00:56:19,239
Speaker 4: very good in this game as well. Like I said,

1081
00:56:19,320 --> 00:56:21,480
Speaker 4: game led by defense, you get the win twenty three

1082
00:56:21,600 --> 00:56:26,200
Speaker 4: to sixteen. But Nebraska answer asking some questions excuse me

1083
00:56:26,320 --> 00:56:30,760
Speaker 4: of the Oklahoma offense that they didn't necessarily answer. Speaking

1084
00:56:30,800 --> 00:56:35,160
Speaker 4: of Oklahoma, Oklahoma State on the road at Boise State.

1085
00:56:35,239 --> 00:56:38,840
Speaker 4: This was a nine pm kickoff. I couldn't watch this

1086
00:56:39,000 --> 00:56:40,440
Speaker 4: game because of the blue on blue thing.

1087
00:56:41,400 --> 00:56:42,920
Speaker 1: Yeah you're eyeballs. I couldn't.

1088
00:56:42,960 --> 00:56:45,880
Speaker 4: It was giving me a crazy headed, falling eyeballs. I

1089
00:56:45,920 --> 00:56:49,000
Speaker 4: couldn't do it. I couldn't do it, But I did

1090
00:56:49,040 --> 00:56:51,520
Speaker 4: go back. I watched the highlights as best I could.

1091
00:56:51,880 --> 00:56:54,200
Speaker 4: I know I've dunked a lot on Spencer Sanders over

1092
00:56:54,200 --> 00:56:59,439
Speaker 4: the years. Here, I've done so without really mentioning what's

1093
00:56:59,480 --> 00:57:03,000
Speaker 4: going on with their wide receiver corps, which is not insignificant.

1094
00:57:03,320 --> 00:57:07,360
Speaker 4: It's really banged up. They were without Jaden bray Brayden

1095
00:57:07,440 --> 00:57:10,320
Speaker 4: Johnson and Tay Martin in this game. They're all out,

1096
00:57:10,360 --> 00:57:12,200
Speaker 4: and so that's why if you look at the box score,

1097
00:57:12,840 --> 00:57:16,640
Speaker 4: Oklahoma State effectively went full Wisconsin. They went full Michigan.

1098
00:57:17,400 --> 00:57:21,120
Speaker 4: Just thirteen passing attempts for Spencer Sanders. They leaned really

1099
00:57:21,160 --> 00:57:25,000
Speaker 4: heavily on Jalen Warren in the running game and on

1100
00:57:25,040 --> 00:57:28,800
Speaker 4: their defense. Their defense did a good job blanking Boise

1101
00:57:29,120 --> 00:57:30,040
Speaker 4: in the second half.

1102
00:57:30,040 --> 00:57:32,040
Speaker 1: They both blanked each other.

1103
00:57:32,080 --> 00:57:32,280
Speaker 3: They did.

1104
00:57:32,360 --> 00:57:34,160
Speaker 4: It was twenty one to twenty a half and there

1105
00:57:34,160 --> 00:57:38,880
Speaker 4: were no points after that. But the Cowboy defense again

1106
00:57:38,960 --> 00:57:42,120
Speaker 4: comes to play It wasn't just the blanking of Boise,

1107
00:57:42,400 --> 00:57:46,080
Speaker 4: it was also the partial blocking of a potential go

1108
00:57:46,120 --> 00:57:49,240
Speaker 4: ahead field goal with two minutes left. So a guy

1109
00:57:49,280 --> 00:57:52,680
Speaker 4: gets up just gets a fingertip on it, which would

1110
00:57:52,720 --> 00:57:56,480
Speaker 4: have been a game winning thirty six yard field goal. Again,

1111
00:57:56,880 --> 00:58:00,480
Speaker 4: the Cowboys answer the call here do what they Oh yeah,

1112
00:58:00,520 --> 00:58:03,880
Speaker 4: on defense, it gets real if I'm being honest for

1113
00:58:03,920 --> 00:58:06,200
Speaker 4: Oklahoma State this week, because.

1114
00:58:05,920 --> 00:58:08,440
Speaker 1: They are to Balor Bears, well they started to see

1115
00:58:08,480 --> 00:58:10,040
Speaker 1: you first. Yeah. Sorry. They start off.

1116
00:58:09,920 --> 00:58:13,160
Speaker 4: Their conference slate with Kansas State. Kansas State with a

1117
00:58:13,160 --> 00:58:17,000
Speaker 4: big win as well, But there is something to be

1118
00:58:17,040 --> 00:58:19,120
Speaker 4: said for winning with defense, doing what you gotta do,

1119
00:58:19,680 --> 00:58:21,760
Speaker 4: and hopefully for the posts they can get this receiving

1120
00:58:21,800 --> 00:58:24,160
Speaker 4: core back. Man, I mean, it's just they don't have

1121
00:58:24,160 --> 00:58:24,640
Speaker 4: any weapon.

1122
00:58:24,640 --> 00:58:28,640
Speaker 1: They're decimated. Yeah, especially since the guy who developed all

1123
00:58:28,680 --> 00:58:31,480
Speaker 1: those receivers over the years is now their offensive coordinator

1124
00:58:31,480 --> 00:58:34,920
Speaker 1: in case he done so, you know they're they're prepared

1125
00:58:34,960 --> 00:58:37,040
Speaker 1: to do so. Yeah, but they're just so beat up.

1126
00:58:37,080 --> 00:58:39,120
Speaker 1: They manufactured a win. They did a really good job

1127
00:58:39,160 --> 00:58:42,240
Speaker 1: going on the road against a tough opponent and leaned

1128
00:58:42,280 --> 00:58:44,480
Speaker 1: on the ground game. It was a Jalen Warren who

1129
00:58:44,520 --> 00:58:48,280
Speaker 1: really popped once he hit some open field. Great win

1130
00:58:48,320 --> 00:58:50,720
Speaker 1: for Oklahoma State, absolutely great win to go on the

1131
00:58:50,800 --> 00:58:52,400
Speaker 1: road and come away with a win ahead of the

1132
00:58:52,440 --> 00:58:54,560
Speaker 1: conference season, which, by the way, Ky State I believe

1133
00:58:54,640 --> 00:58:56,520
Speaker 1: is without Skyler Thompson and Will Howard actually had a

1134
00:58:56,560 --> 00:58:58,920
Speaker 1: nice game against Nevada. But that's it's a different case

1135
00:58:58,920 --> 00:58:59,560
Speaker 1: State team.

1136
00:59:00,040 --> 00:59:00,160
Speaker 2: Yea.

1137
00:59:00,160 --> 00:59:01,560
Speaker 4: By the way, we should note, as we did on

1138
00:59:01,560 --> 00:59:04,480
Speaker 4: the previous show, that Oklahoma State was going to altitude

1139
00:59:05,400 --> 00:59:11,080
Speaker 4: sorry like two thousand feet, but I forgot I had

1140
00:59:11,080 --> 00:59:15,120
Speaker 4: that sound Okay, please elsewhere you mention other action the

1141
00:59:15,120 --> 00:59:17,720
Speaker 4: Big twelve West Virginia twenty seven to twenty one over

1142
00:59:17,800 --> 00:59:20,480
Speaker 4: Virginia Tech, which we'll come back to and talk about. Well,

1143
00:59:20,560 --> 00:59:22,720
Speaker 4: Howard did have a nice game, as case date one

1144
00:59:22,800 --> 00:59:26,480
Speaker 4: by twenty one over Nevada. Strong upfront, Yeah, thirty eight

1145
00:59:26,520 --> 00:59:30,360
Speaker 4: to seventeen. Iowa State rolled. This is a later kickoff

1146
00:59:30,640 --> 00:59:35,280
Speaker 4: at UNLV forty eight to three. Better game for brock Purty.

1147
00:59:36,200 --> 00:59:40,000
Speaker 4: We had wins for Baylor over Kansas Texas Tech in

1148
00:59:40,040 --> 00:59:42,760
Speaker 4: a game where Tyler Shuck looked pretty good fifty four

1149
00:59:42,800 --> 00:59:47,160
Speaker 4: to twenty one over Florida International and Casey Thompson fifteen

1150
00:59:47,160 --> 00:59:50,720
Speaker 4: of eighteen in a big fifty eight.

1151
00:59:50,680 --> 00:59:52,520
Speaker 1: To NIERL win over Rice.

1152
00:59:52,640 --> 00:59:57,920
Speaker 4: But circling back to that West Virginia game, you were

1153
00:59:57,960 --> 00:59:59,240
Speaker 4: all in on West Virginia.

1154
00:59:59,320 --> 01:00:01,320
Speaker 1: They were your life. It looked really good early.

1155
01:00:01,520 --> 01:00:04,400
Speaker 4: It looked really good early in Yeah, Tech tried coming

1156
01:00:04,440 --> 01:00:08,280
Speaker 4: back late but couldn't quite get the job done. Yes, correct,

1157
01:00:08,840 --> 01:00:11,240
Speaker 4: Letty Brown really good at what he does for West

1158
01:00:11,320 --> 01:00:13,160
Speaker 4: Virginia and so good to see a lot of the

1159
01:00:13,240 --> 01:00:15,760
Speaker 4: energy in Morgan Towns. That was a nice win.

1160
01:00:16,040 --> 01:00:18,800
Speaker 1: Baylor Kansas was relatively close to the half, but especially

1161
01:00:18,960 --> 01:00:20,760
Speaker 1: with what they did on the ground in the second half,

1162
01:00:20,800 --> 01:00:24,240
Speaker 1: they were able to pace an impressive win against Kansas.

1163
01:00:24,560 --> 01:00:27,560
Speaker 1: And sorry, what was the other game you mentioned there?

1164
01:00:29,640 --> 01:00:31,480
Speaker 1: Date up on FIU. Yeah, I always stated as U

1165
01:00:31,480 --> 01:00:34,520
Speaker 1: and LV whatever be Jhon Robinson, I mean it was Rice. Whatever,

1166
01:00:34,840 --> 01:00:37,120
Speaker 1: you know, no disrespect, but let's let's see some more,

1167
01:00:38,000 --> 01:00:38,200
Speaker 1: you know.

1168
01:00:38,280 --> 01:00:41,640
Speaker 4: Then Virginia Virginia Tech had a chance to tie this one.

1169
01:00:42,000 --> 01:00:42,439
Speaker 1: They did.

1170
01:00:43,080 --> 01:00:44,640
Speaker 4: They had a chance to tie it. They say, pick

1171
01:00:44,720 --> 01:00:47,760
Speaker 4: off Jarrett Deggy with two minutes left. They were down

1172
01:00:47,800 --> 01:00:50,800
Speaker 4: twenty seven to seven at one point, and then they

1173
01:00:50,840 --> 01:00:54,400
Speaker 4: came back. They had a chance to tie it. Fourth

1174
01:00:54,440 --> 01:00:58,920
Speaker 4: and goal forty five seconds left Braxton Burmeister incomplete pass.

1175
01:00:59,480 --> 01:01:03,400
Speaker 4: But what I'll say is this, even in defeat, the

1176
01:01:03,480 --> 01:01:06,080
Speaker 4: fact that Tech played as hard as they did despite

1177
01:01:06,080 --> 01:01:09,000
Speaker 4: being down twenty, I think is a good sign for

1178
01:01:09,160 --> 01:01:12,680
Speaker 4: Justin Fuente because that's a situation where he can lose

1179
01:01:12,680 --> 01:01:17,000
Speaker 4: the team. Where if we're Week three and you know,

1180
01:01:17,040 --> 01:01:20,880
Speaker 4: we've had some moments here in the past. A year ago,

1181
01:01:21,200 --> 01:01:23,520
Speaker 4: we may have had the conversation of his Fuente going

1182
01:01:23,560 --> 01:01:28,200
Speaker 4: to stick around? Are they playing hard for Fuente? They

1183
01:01:28,240 --> 01:01:32,640
Speaker 4: fought in this game, even defeat. They were getting hammered early.

1184
01:01:32,800 --> 01:01:34,919
Speaker 4: But the fact they stuck around, that they came back,

1185
01:01:34,960 --> 01:01:36,440
Speaker 4: that they made this a game, I think is good

1186
01:01:36,480 --> 01:01:37,240
Speaker 4: for him.

1187
01:01:37,600 --> 01:01:39,720
Speaker 1: You can tell me Virginia Tech now two and one.

1188
01:01:39,760 --> 01:01:41,960
Speaker 1: I believe you can tell me any final record for

1189
01:01:42,080 --> 01:01:46,080
Speaker 1: the Hokies, and I will believe you looking at their schedule,

1190
01:01:46,320 --> 01:01:49,600
Speaker 1: literally any final record from this point on. Almost they

1191
01:01:49,640 --> 01:01:51,760
Speaker 1: have Syracuse. They have Georgia Tech with the backup quarterback,

1192
01:01:51,760 --> 01:01:53,640
Speaker 1: at least at the moment you know they're there, there's

1193
01:01:53,680 --> 01:01:55,520
Speaker 1: Duke there. But you can say five and seven, you

1194
01:01:55,520 --> 01:01:57,600
Speaker 1: can say nine to three, and I'll just nod. I'll

1195
01:01:57,640 --> 01:02:01,520
Speaker 1: just say, Okay, I can see it. So yeah. By

1196
01:02:01,520 --> 01:02:03,120
Speaker 1: the way, the other thing with the big twelve that

1197
01:02:03,160 --> 01:02:05,880
Speaker 1: I should mention, I was watching Oklahoma Nebraska with my

1198
01:02:05,960 --> 01:02:09,080
Speaker 1: mother in law and she was watching closer than I was,

1199
01:02:09,120 --> 01:02:12,280
Speaker 1: and she said, Joel Klatt really big on microcosms. I love,

1200
01:02:12,520 --> 01:02:15,920
Speaker 1: really really big on micro cossums. Yeah, yeah, okay, okay.

1201
01:02:15,960 --> 01:02:20,240
Speaker 4: That's all sec. Not a whole lot to report. So

1202
01:02:20,280 --> 01:02:22,720
Speaker 4: we had a bunch of big wins. We had Arkansas

1203
01:02:22,880 --> 01:02:26,120
Speaker 4: kJ Jefferson looked really good win by thirty five over

1204
01:02:26,160 --> 01:02:29,520
Speaker 4: Georgia Southern. Hendon Hooker counted for four touchdowns. He got

1205
01:02:29,520 --> 01:02:32,080
Speaker 4: the nod for Tennessee and their big win over Tennessee Tech.

1206
01:02:32,480 --> 01:02:36,800
Speaker 4: Connor Basilac looked good as Missoo knocked off Southeast Missoo State,

1207
01:02:37,720 --> 01:02:42,440
Speaker 4: Texas A and m behind Zach Calzada wins thirty four

1208
01:02:42,480 --> 01:02:45,880
Speaker 4: to nil over New Mexico. Kentucky a little bit closer

1209
01:02:46,480 --> 01:02:49,720
Speaker 4: than you might expect in a win over Tennessee Chattanooga.

1210
01:02:51,160 --> 01:02:54,040
Speaker 4: Well Levis made a comment after the game that Kentucky

1211
01:02:54,040 --> 01:02:56,640
Speaker 4: didn't look good in practice on Friday, and it did

1212
01:02:56,680 --> 01:02:59,040
Speaker 4: show here. Kind of played this one in a fall

1213
01:02:59,280 --> 01:03:01,760
Speaker 4: like a low energy effort with a lot of mistakes

1214
01:03:01,800 --> 01:03:04,280
Speaker 4: and he didn't look good. He had two picks, but

1215
01:03:04,880 --> 01:03:07,080
Speaker 4: they trailed I think early in the fourth quarter here

1216
01:03:07,120 --> 01:03:10,040
Speaker 4: before they got their act together. Buckkentucky gets the win.

1217
01:03:11,680 --> 01:03:14,440
Speaker 4: Oh Miss wins big over Tulane. LSU wins big over

1218
01:03:14,520 --> 01:03:18,080
Speaker 4: Central Michigan. Georgia gets JT. Daniels back. He throws three

1219
01:03:18,120 --> 01:03:22,440
Speaker 4: touchdowns in a win over South Carolina. Luke Dody was

1220
01:03:22,440 --> 01:03:23,920
Speaker 4: back by the way for South Carolina.

1221
01:03:24,560 --> 01:03:27,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, did it make a difference? Not really? Okay.

1222
01:03:28,520 --> 01:03:31,360
Speaker 4: The big game, though, that we haven't yet talked about

1223
01:03:31,400 --> 01:03:36,720
Speaker 4: in the SEC is this Mississippi State game. Mississippi State

1224
01:03:36,800 --> 01:03:40,480
Speaker 4: goes on the road to Memphis. They lose thirty one

1225
01:03:40,480 --> 01:03:45,120
Speaker 4: to twenty nine. This was a very bizarre game. A

1226
01:03:45,200 --> 01:03:48,560
Speaker 4: very bizarre ending to this game that also featured a

1227
01:03:48,640 --> 01:03:52,360
Speaker 4: very bizarre play. So there was a ninety four yard

1228
01:03:52,400 --> 01:03:56,680
Speaker 4: punt return for touchdown for Memphis. It looked as if

1229
01:03:57,160 --> 01:04:00,400
Speaker 4: Mississippi State had down the ball on the sixth yard

1230
01:04:00,400 --> 01:04:04,520
Speaker 4: line after a punt. A guy from Memphis just streams in,

1231
01:04:04,600 --> 01:04:06,000
Speaker 4: grabs ball and runs with it.

1232
01:04:06,160 --> 01:04:08,400
Speaker 1: Calvin Austin, Yeah, just runs with it.

1233
01:04:09,680 --> 01:04:11,640
Speaker 4: Everybody's looking at each other like I thought the ball

1234
01:04:11,720 --> 01:04:12,320
Speaker 4: was dead.

1235
01:04:12,720 --> 01:04:15,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought the ball was right there. Yeah, through

1236
01:04:15,880 --> 01:04:18,800
Speaker 1: his bean bag, waved his arms. It looked as if

1237
01:04:18,800 --> 01:04:19,960
Speaker 1: they had just waved it dead.

1238
01:04:20,200 --> 01:04:22,439
Speaker 4: But the guy from Memphis runs in, grabs ball, runs

1239
01:04:22,480 --> 01:04:23,720
Speaker 4: for a touchdown, and they counted it.

1240
01:04:24,560 --> 01:04:25,080
Speaker 1: They counted.

1241
01:04:25,160 --> 01:04:28,240
Speaker 4: This is another one of the sec stinky ref moments

1242
01:04:28,320 --> 01:04:34,520
Speaker 4: on Saturday. Correct. I don't know really what to say

1243
01:04:34,560 --> 01:04:37,200
Speaker 4: about this game, Dan, this was This is a bizarre game.

1244
01:04:37,240 --> 01:04:42,240
Speaker 4: We had a bunch of on site kicks. You know

1245
01:04:42,760 --> 01:04:45,200
Speaker 4: you're high on Mississippi State, so maybe you can diagnose

1246
01:04:45,240 --> 01:04:47,600
Speaker 4: this one for me. But what what should we take

1247
01:04:47,640 --> 01:04:48,280
Speaker 4: away from this?

1248
01:04:50,040 --> 01:04:53,840
Speaker 1: Mississippi State had opportunities to put this game away in

1249
01:04:53,880 --> 01:04:57,680
Speaker 1: the second half. That call was undeniably bad to me,

1250
01:04:58,160 --> 01:05:00,080
Speaker 1: with the ref waving his hands like he did. It

1251
01:05:00,120 --> 01:05:03,000
Speaker 1: was also what two different players wearing number four Memphis

1252
01:05:03,040 --> 01:05:06,160
Speaker 1: which should have resulted in a penalty on that specific punt.

1253
01:05:07,400 --> 01:05:12,560
Speaker 1: Just it was bad. The ball was down, but Mississippi

1254
01:05:12,560 --> 01:05:14,960
Speaker 1: State was up ten in the second half and driving

1255
01:05:15,000 --> 01:05:17,520
Speaker 1: with a short field and turned it over on downs.

1256
01:05:17,520 --> 01:05:20,880
Speaker 1: They also had an interception which they themselves couldn't get

1257
01:05:20,920 --> 01:05:23,160
Speaker 1: all couldn't get. Like the twelfth or twelfth and thirteenth

1258
01:05:23,280 --> 01:05:28,400
Speaker 1: men off the field, so it was errors plural. Now,

1259
01:05:28,520 --> 01:05:30,840
Speaker 1: obviously you want to control your own errors. You don't

1260
01:05:30,840 --> 01:05:33,000
Speaker 1: want the ref siding things and getting points on the

1261
01:05:33,040 --> 01:05:35,600
Speaker 1: board for the other team. But this is also Mississippi

1262
01:05:35,600 --> 01:05:38,000
Speaker 1: State team who made mistakes of their own with the

1263
01:05:38,040 --> 01:05:42,840
Speaker 1: game there for the taking. So I feel bad for

1264
01:05:43,000 --> 01:05:48,160
Speaker 1: the Dogs, but ultimately they had chances. They blew the game.

1265
01:05:48,440 --> 01:05:51,919
Speaker 1: It was a bad call. It was an extremely terrible call.

1266
01:05:51,960 --> 01:05:55,000
Speaker 1: You can see the frame of the Mississippi State player

1267
01:05:55,240 --> 01:05:57,120
Speaker 1: with his knee on the ground, with his hand atop

1268
01:05:57,120 --> 01:05:59,840
Speaker 1: of the ball, and the ref waving his arms in

1269
01:05:59,880 --> 01:06:03,520
Speaker 1: the It's just you know, it's unfortunate. It's bad. This

1270
01:06:03,560 --> 01:06:05,440
Speaker 1: is going to happen. Luckily, I guess it wasn't a

1271
01:06:05,480 --> 01:06:08,720
Speaker 1: conference game, So big picture for Mississippi State. If they

1272
01:06:08,720 --> 01:06:12,280
Speaker 1: are that good like I think they can be, they

1273
01:06:12,400 --> 01:06:14,360
Speaker 1: control their destiny. They were never going to be a

1274
01:06:14,360 --> 01:06:17,439
Speaker 1: playoff team, So you know, it sucks. It's a bad break,

1275
01:06:17,480 --> 01:06:21,120
Speaker 1: undeniable bad break, but I hope they can move past it. Yeah.

1276
01:06:21,200 --> 01:06:22,880
Speaker 1: By the way, the ole Miss tu Lane game, which

1277
01:06:22,920 --> 01:06:24,840
Speaker 1: I had mentioned earlier on that's a full lot impressive

1278
01:06:24,840 --> 01:06:28,080
Speaker 1: performance from Ole Miss. They got Tulane off the field,

1279
01:06:29,080 --> 01:06:31,160
Speaker 1: basically every third down. I think Tulane fin is one

1280
01:06:31,160 --> 01:06:34,800
Speaker 1: of ten on third down. If we're talking about incremental

1281
01:06:34,840 --> 01:06:36,960
Speaker 1: signs that ole Miss's defense is getting better. Tulane is

1282
01:06:37,000 --> 01:06:39,800
Speaker 1: a real team with a real quarterback, and ole Miss

1283
01:06:40,280 --> 01:06:42,760
Speaker 1: dominated them. I think they put up seven hundred yards

1284
01:06:42,760 --> 01:06:43,240
Speaker 1: of offense.

1285
01:06:43,360 --> 01:06:46,680
Speaker 4: Macarel had seven touchdowns, three through the air and four

1286
01:06:46,720 --> 01:06:48,440
Speaker 4: on the ground, which is not a bad showing.

1287
01:06:48,880 --> 01:06:50,560
Speaker 1: No, So, I just I wanted to make that note.

1288
01:06:51,120 --> 01:06:51,960
Speaker 1: Let's move over to.

1289
01:06:51,920 --> 01:06:55,200
Speaker 4: The ACC and close this guy out. Dan, Yeah, let

1290
01:06:55,280 --> 01:06:57,280
Speaker 4: me read through these scores and then we can double

1291
01:06:57,360 --> 01:07:00,920
Speaker 4: back and talk about what moved us here. We had

1292
01:07:01,920 --> 01:07:03,400
Speaker 4: Clemson fourteen to.

1293
01:07:03,320 --> 01:07:06,400
Speaker 1: Eight in a monsoon situation.

1294
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Speaker 4: In a monsoon situation, we had a long delay fourteen

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Speaker 4: to eight. They knock off Georgia Tech. We had North

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Speaker 4: Carolina by twenty over UVA. A lot of stats statscore

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Speaker 4: in this game, thirty nine big time shootout. We had

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Speaker 4: Louisville Louisville in a fun back and forth game on

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Speaker 4: Thursday night, tied late Louisville picks one off, they ran

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Speaker 4: it back sixty six yards to grab the lead with

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Speaker 4: thirteen seconds left, forty.

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Speaker 1: Two to thirty five. They win Dylan Gabriel got hurt

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Speaker 1: on the very last play of the game, which is

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01:07:39,560 --> 01:07:40,840
Speaker 1: a bummer. He'll be out for a while.

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Speaker 4: Out for Yeah, Florida State loses thirty five to fourteen.

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Speaker 4: They're now zero to three for the first time since

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Speaker 4: nineteen seventy six. Big win for Wake not one, not two,

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01:07:53,560 --> 01:07:57,760
Speaker 4: not even four, not five. Six turnovers for Florida State

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01:07:57,760 --> 01:07:58,680
Speaker 4: in a losing effort.

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Speaker 1: Not very good.

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01:08:00,000 --> 01:08:03,120
Speaker 4: But speaking of in a losing effort, Kenny Pickett six

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01:08:03,200 --> 01:08:09,680
Speaker 4: touchdowns in a losing effort. They lose to Western Michigan

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01:08:09,880 --> 01:08:11,760
Speaker 4: forty four to forty one.

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Speaker 1: Got torched, torched by Caleb Ellabi and themselves couldn't run

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01:08:16,520 --> 01:08:18,080
Speaker 1: the ball at all. Kenny Pickett was really good and

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01:08:18,120 --> 01:08:21,320
Speaker 1: there looks like they're gonna waste what will be a

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Speaker 1: good season. Jordan Adison had a really good game for

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01:08:23,640 --> 01:08:25,120
Speaker 1: a pit too, right. Yep, he was one of the

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01:08:25,160 --> 01:08:27,360
Speaker 1: receivers that got going with that. Yeah, that's just that's

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01:08:27,680 --> 01:08:30,920
Speaker 1: to score forty against a MAC team and lose, it's

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01:08:30,960 --> 01:08:32,840
Speaker 1: just inexcusable for pitt.

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Speaker 4: BC one twenty eight to three over Temple. Syracuse wins

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01:08:36,240 --> 01:08:40,360
Speaker 4: sixty two to twenty four over Albany Duke Duke gets

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01:08:40,360 --> 01:08:44,320
Speaker 4: to win over Northwestern ramp. They led twenty seven to

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01:08:44,360 --> 01:08:47,520
Speaker 4: nothing at the end of the second quarter before Northwestern

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01:08:47,760 --> 01:08:49,920
Speaker 4: finally got on the board and Northwestern did try to

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01:08:49,960 --> 01:08:52,439
Speaker 4: come back, but they couldn't quite pull it off. This

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01:08:52,479 --> 01:08:53,240
Speaker 4: is a bad watch.

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01:08:53,400 --> 01:08:58,439
Speaker 1: Eight turnovers. It real skip through real quick this morning. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: NC State eight wins forty five to seven over Furman

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Speaker 4: And what did i've oh? I forgot to do this

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01:09:07,160 --> 01:09:12,840
Speaker 4: as well. For I mentioned the Uva game, but Brendan

1333
01:09:12,960 --> 01:09:17,000
Speaker 4: Armstrong threw for five point fifty four and four touchdowns

1334
01:09:17,040 --> 01:09:21,800
Speaker 4: despite the losing effort as Virginia lost to North Carolina.

1335
01:09:22,160 --> 01:09:24,559
Speaker 4: Let me let me double back though to the Clemson game.

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01:09:25,320 --> 01:09:29,759
Speaker 4: So the long delay you had, the weird weather fourteen

1337
01:09:29,800 --> 01:09:34,080
Speaker 4: to eight is like you would think, even despite all

1338
01:09:34,120 --> 01:09:37,880
Speaker 4: of the delays and the weather, Georgia Tech is not

1339
01:09:37,960 --> 01:09:39,880
Speaker 4: a team that we expected to be very good this year.

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01:09:41,320 --> 01:09:44,920
Speaker 1: Correct, we hoped, we hoped it didn't expect Yeah, do

1341
01:09:44,960 --> 01:09:45,639
Speaker 1: we have to have a.

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01:09:45,560 --> 01:09:48,639
Speaker 4: Clemson conversation at this point about the Clemson offense.

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01:09:49,720 --> 01:09:52,320
Speaker 1: I think they need to be monitored. I think they

1344
01:09:52,360 --> 01:09:54,320
Speaker 1: need to be on our radar. I am willing to

1345
01:09:54,320 --> 01:09:57,600
Speaker 1: write off monsoon games on a certain line. It's just

1346
01:09:57,680 --> 01:09:59,280
Speaker 1: very hard to get in a rhythm, whether it's gripping

1347
01:09:59,280 --> 01:10:02,519
Speaker 1: a ball, whether it's you know, shortening, closing up, condensing

1348
01:10:02,560 --> 01:10:07,160
Speaker 1: the playbook. I think it needs to happen eventually, but

1349
01:10:07,479 --> 01:10:09,000
Speaker 1: I don't think this is the game where we need

1350
01:10:09,040 --> 01:10:11,280
Speaker 1: to say, Okay, we definitely need to have it. Let's

1351
01:10:11,280 --> 01:10:14,679
Speaker 1: wait until there's at least okay, whether and an opponent

1352
01:10:14,720 --> 01:10:16,800
Speaker 1: they should be scoring thirty or forty against and they

1353
01:10:16,840 --> 01:10:19,840
Speaker 1: score seventeen, I'll give them the benefit of the doubt.

1354
01:10:19,920 --> 01:10:22,640
Speaker 1: But yeah, we had all those conversations early on in

1355
01:10:22,680 --> 01:10:24,439
Speaker 1: the city or before the season started, like Okay, we

1356
01:10:24,520 --> 01:10:26,960
Speaker 1: got CJ. Stroud, and we've got Bryce Young, We've got

1357
01:10:27,160 --> 01:10:29,439
Speaker 1: dj U, we've got Emery Jones, we've got all these

1358
01:10:29,439 --> 01:10:32,240
Speaker 1: new quarterbacks and these places built for quarterbacks to succeed,

1359
01:10:32,960 --> 01:10:37,920
Speaker 1: and early on, like Bryce Young has been really strong,

1360
01:10:37,960 --> 01:10:42,360
Speaker 1: but otherwise Jones made plays but has made some bad mistakes.

1361
01:10:43,200 --> 01:10:46,000
Speaker 1: It's been a disappointing foursome five some whatever we're going

1362
01:10:46,040 --> 01:10:49,240
Speaker 1: to include in that grouping. And Dju just sort of

1363
01:10:49,240 --> 01:10:53,200
Speaker 1: looks big right at this point. He's big, he's big,

1364
01:10:53,200 --> 01:10:56,080
Speaker 1: sinco He's got a he throws a big ball. He's

1365
01:10:56,120 --> 01:11:01,720
Speaker 1: a big dude. He's big sinco, but he is not

1366
01:11:01,960 --> 01:11:04,040
Speaker 1: in this moment a playoff quarterback.

1367
01:11:04,680 --> 01:11:04,760
Speaker 2: No.

1368
01:11:04,960 --> 01:11:08,080
Speaker 4: Will Shipley, by the way, the five star true freshman

1369
01:11:08,120 --> 01:11:12,479
Speaker 4: out of North Carolina plays for Clemson, got some good

1370
01:11:12,560 --> 01:11:14,960
Speaker 4: looks on the ground here and I thought looked impressive.

1371
01:11:15,040 --> 01:11:17,479
Speaker 4: I think if they could find a way to refine

1372
01:11:17,479 --> 01:11:20,920
Speaker 4: that rushing attack, he's definitely gonna be a problem. He

1373
01:11:20,960 --> 01:11:24,479
Speaker 4: had eighty eight yards two touchdowns in this game. Really

1374
01:11:24,520 --> 01:11:26,320
Speaker 4: like what I saw to Will Shipley had read a

1375
01:11:26,320 --> 01:11:29,280
Speaker 4: lot about him going into the season, but this was

1376
01:11:29,800 --> 01:11:31,720
Speaker 4: I feel like the real the first time that we

1377
01:11:31,760 --> 01:11:33,400
Speaker 4: got to see him with some extended action.

1378
01:11:33,520 --> 01:11:37,640
Speaker 1: He looked really good, right would you? Would you like

1379
01:11:37,680 --> 01:11:40,400
Speaker 1: to hear something real quick? Tie? Because the game was

1380
01:11:40,560 --> 01:11:43,599
Speaker 1: unique this season. These were just all of the drives

1381
01:11:43,960 --> 01:11:50,360
Speaker 1: in North Carolina Virginia. Punt, touchdown, fumble, touchdown, touchdown, touchdown, punt,

1382
01:11:50,360 --> 01:11:55,080
Speaker 1: field goal, touchdown, interception, touchdown, field goal, touchdown, end of half, touchdown, punt, touchdown,

1383
01:11:55,080 --> 01:12:03,200
Speaker 1: field goal, touchdown, interception, touchdown, touchdown, touchdown, touchdown, name ninety

1384
01:12:03,280 --> 01:12:07,360
Speaker 1: eight points later. A lot of action there. Yeah, So

1385
01:12:07,400 --> 01:12:10,240
Speaker 1: I don't want to just celebrate punts and missed field

1386
01:12:10,240 --> 01:12:14,200
Speaker 1: goals and turnovers on down. We should also celebrate just Axion.

1387
01:12:14,120 --> 01:12:17,439
Speaker 4: Yeah no, and Coastal Carolina. We should also mention with

1388
01:12:17,520 --> 01:12:20,800
Speaker 4: a oh yeah, nice comeback win, come back win twenty

1389
01:12:20,840 --> 01:12:24,679
Speaker 4: eight to twenty five on the road at Buffalo and SMU.

1390
01:12:25,040 --> 01:12:30,080
Speaker 4: SMU beats Louisiana Tech and future Notre Dame coach Skipholtz

1391
01:12:30,160 --> 01:12:34,400
Speaker 4: by a thirty nine to thirty seven score. Tanner Mordechai

1392
01:12:35,040 --> 01:12:37,280
Speaker 4: remember him, transfer to the battle.

1393
01:12:36,960 --> 01:12:40,439
Speaker 1: Of Yeah, well's battle of former Oklahoma quarterbacks, right Mordecai

1394
01:12:40,439 --> 01:12:41,160
Speaker 1: and Austin Kendall.

1395
01:12:41,280 --> 01:12:45,519
Speaker 4: That is correct, Tanner Mordecai connects with Reggie Roberson thirty

1396
01:12:45,560 --> 01:12:48,080
Speaker 4: three yards for the go ahead touchdown, which is six

1397
01:12:48,120 --> 01:12:51,080
Speaker 4: seconds left to give SMU the decary bit of a

1398
01:12:51,160 --> 01:12:51,960
Speaker 4: dramatic clothes there.

1399
01:12:51,960 --> 01:12:55,120
Speaker 1: Gotta knock down those hal Mary's folks. Gotta knock them down.

1400
01:12:55,240 --> 01:12:57,519
Speaker 1: Can't just tip them up into the air. Yeah, what

1401
01:12:57,560 --> 01:12:59,800
Speaker 1: do you like to do, dudes? I would love to

1402
01:12:59,800 --> 01:13:06,320
Speaker 1: do it. Dudes. Who are my dudes? Johan Dotson obviously,

1403
01:13:06,360 --> 01:13:08,360
Speaker 1: but we're gonna have to retire and retire him soon.

1404
01:13:08,439 --> 01:13:11,760
Speaker 1: Trevon Henderson, Ohio State. Jalen Warren, Oklahoma State paced that

1405
01:13:11,800 --> 01:13:14,479
Speaker 1: win really nicely. Josh Downs went for over two hundred

1406
01:13:14,560 --> 01:13:18,360
Speaker 1: right for North Carolina out wide, Cory Kroume's destroyed Pitt

1407
01:13:18,400 --> 01:13:23,479
Speaker 1: absolutely destroyed pit. Jake Hayner for Fresno, warrior of a dude.

1408
01:13:23,920 --> 01:13:27,880
Speaker 1: Letty Brown for West Virginia really put the ears on

1409
01:13:27,920 --> 01:13:31,760
Speaker 1: his back. Kenneth Walker, Kenny Walker, my guy might need

1410
01:13:31,800 --> 01:13:36,200
Speaker 1: to be retired soon. JJ Russell linebacker for Memphis all

1411
01:13:36,240 --> 01:13:38,840
Speaker 1: over the place in that winning effort against Mississippi State,

1412
01:13:39,200 --> 01:13:42,400
Speaker 1: and you already mentioned the in a losing effort, guys.

1413
01:13:42,760 --> 01:13:47,720
Speaker 1: Also in a losing effort, the Patriot League got it

1414
01:13:47,840 --> 01:13:51,040
Speaker 1: handed to them by the IVS, I think other than

1415
01:13:51,080 --> 01:13:55,240
Speaker 1: the Crossaders, right, the Crossaders Cross the solid Yeah, but

1416
01:13:56,080 --> 01:14:00,559
Speaker 1: the rest of the conference not great, Bob. Yeah.

1417
01:14:00,600 --> 01:14:02,799
Speaker 4: Also Presbyterian in a losing effort.

1418
01:14:03,360 --> 01:14:07,080
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, oh yeah, they were Presbyterian.

1419
01:14:08,200 --> 01:14:10,439
Speaker 4: You'll recall their quarterback was the one who threw ten

1420
01:14:10,520 --> 01:14:14,479
Speaker 4: touchdowns hm a couple of weeks ago through seven picks

1421
01:14:15,120 --> 01:14:17,880
Speaker 4: in the game with Campbell and they lost seventy two

1422
01:14:17,920 --> 01:14:18,280
Speaker 4: to nothing.

1423
01:14:19,439 --> 01:14:23,400
Speaker 1: Generous, That's all I'm saying. Generous. Generos.

1424
01:14:23,800 --> 01:14:26,479
Speaker 4: Yeah, oh well, Daniel, that does it for the Week

1425
01:14:26,560 --> 01:14:31,800
Speaker 4: three reaction slash recap show. We appreciate everyone calling into

1426
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1427
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Speaker 4: of calls. Dylan did a good job putting that together.

1428
01:14:37,120 --> 01:14:39,599
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1440
01:15:13,320 --> 01:15:16,280
Speaker 4: access to all of the picks that you and Jeff make.

1441
01:15:16,280 --> 01:15:18,680
Speaker 1: How'd you guys do this week? By the way, I

1442
01:15:18,760 --> 01:15:20,479
Speaker 1: did well. I did better than Jeff. I think I

1443
01:15:20,520 --> 01:15:23,960
Speaker 1: got two of my three best bets, so that was nice.

1444
01:15:24,800 --> 01:15:27,200
Speaker 1: And I went against him on a couple of his

1445
01:15:27,360 --> 01:15:30,320
Speaker 1: because I know he liked ASU. I believe against bau

1446
01:15:30,360 --> 01:15:33,320
Speaker 1: and just you know, home Dog elevation. Jay Dogs come on.

1447
01:15:34,400 --> 01:15:36,960
Speaker 1: Interesting week next week a couple I mean in my backyard,

1448
01:15:37,000 --> 01:15:40,519
Speaker 1: we have Notre Dame Wisconsin, which you called I think unwatchable.

1449
01:15:40,360 --> 01:15:45,080
Speaker 4: Potentially unwatchable, potentially unwatchable. But look to your point on Clemson.

1450
01:15:45,760 --> 01:15:47,080
Speaker 4: Clemson goes to NC.

1451
01:15:47,040 --> 01:15:50,800
Speaker 1: State next week they do. Indeed, Clemson goes I think

1452
01:15:50,840 --> 01:15:54,320
Speaker 1: their toughest road spot of their acc schedule. It looks like.

1453
01:15:54,720 --> 01:15:57,360
Speaker 4: We'll find out what they're made of. A and M

1454
01:15:57,680 --> 01:16:00,639
Speaker 4: is on the road at Arkansas, which good one. Yeah,

1455
01:16:00,720 --> 01:16:04,160
Speaker 4: given ah that's in our linked arling tiny neutral.

1456
01:16:04,240 --> 01:16:05,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, that that's a Jerry world.

1457
01:16:05,439 --> 01:16:05,639
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1458
01:16:05,920 --> 01:16:08,439
Speaker 4: Given what we've got now brewing at A and M

1459
01:16:08,479 --> 01:16:12,439
Speaker 4: with the quarterback injury and Jefferson looking as good as

1460
01:16:12,439 --> 01:16:16,080
Speaker 4: he has at Arkansas, that is an interesting matchup. We've

1461
01:16:16,080 --> 01:16:19,720
Speaker 4: got the Iron Skillett game SMU TCU.

1462
01:16:19,400 --> 01:16:20,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, which is all Sandford.

1463
01:16:21,000 --> 01:16:24,080
Speaker 4: Fun to discuss, UCLA, Stanford, LSU, Mississippi State.

1464
01:16:25,000 --> 01:16:25,879
Speaker 1: It would be interesting.

1465
01:16:26,760 --> 01:16:28,559
Speaker 4: A bunch of games here that we'll dive into for

1466
01:16:28,640 --> 01:16:30,800
Speaker 4: sure as we push forward into week four.

1467
01:16:30,840 --> 01:16:33,240
Speaker 1: Now West Virginia, Oklahoma, Okay, we will.

1468
01:16:33,080 --> 01:16:36,479
Speaker 4: Be back on Wednesday to do the preview for week

1469
01:16:36,600 --> 01:16:39,799
Speaker 4: four as we really get this thing cranked up, diving

1470
01:16:39,840 --> 01:16:44,559
Speaker 4: into conference slates across the country, hearing up for week five,

1471
01:16:44,600 --> 01:16:47,680
Speaker 4: which looks nuts, so yeah, it should be great for

1472
01:16:47,760 --> 01:16:50,280
Speaker 4: that guy over there, my good friend Dan Rubinstein, for myself,

1473
01:16:50,320 --> 01:16:51,640
Speaker 4: Ty Hilton, and Grant. We will talk to you all

1474
01:16:51,640 --> 01:16:52,759
Speaker 4: in a few short days.

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Speaker 1: In the meantime, STAYSAF base