1 00:00:05,519 --> 00:00:08,320 Speaker 1: Hi. I am Kate Hudson and my name is Oliver Hudson. 2 00:00:08,560 --> 00:00:11,880 Speaker 1: We wanted to do something that highlighted our relationship and 3 00:00:11,920 --> 00:00:20,280 Speaker 1: what it's like to be siblings. We are a sibling 4 00:00:20,400 --> 00:00:32,000 Speaker 1: railvalr No, no, sibling. You don't do that with your mouth, revelry. 5 00:00:33,680 --> 00:00:43,120 Speaker 1: That's good. Can I start by saying something to you? What? No? 6 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:49,159 Speaker 1: For real? I love you, I do for real. And 7 00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:51,000 Speaker 1: I don't know where this is going to go and 8 00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:53,880 Speaker 1: all the different iterations of this, and it could get 9 00:00:53,920 --> 00:00:59,000 Speaker 1: heated and it could get laughy and fun. But I've 10 00:00:59,080 --> 00:01:01,760 Speaker 1: wanted to do this with you a long ass time 11 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:06,880 Speaker 1: and it's happening, and I love you. And we were blood. Yes, 12 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 1: we're the only blood. We're the only blood. We come 13 00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:13,680 Speaker 1: from a patchwork family, fully patchwork like that our father. 14 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:16,760 Speaker 1: Did you come up with that? I'm the m I 15 00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:18,800 Speaker 1: have read it in a book a while back, like 16 00:01:18,840 --> 00:01:21,480 Speaker 1: some kind of you know, self help book. Well, there's blended, 17 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:24,680 Speaker 1: but our's the sort of patchwork. It's patchwork. It's cruchete. 18 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:29,160 Speaker 1: So you and I are our mom. Goldie Han and 19 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:34,319 Speaker 1: Bill Hudson got together for a couple of years, banged 20 00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:37,640 Speaker 1: out two kids. Right then, do you know where you're conceived. 21 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:48,880 Speaker 1: London explains everything. Nebraska explains everything. I was on Regent's Park. 22 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:53,400 Speaker 1: Actually I was in a bathroom, yeah, in Nebraska. Yeah 23 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:56,880 Speaker 1: that I mean, it's I'm sure at a cellular level, 24 00:01:56,920 --> 00:02:00,440 Speaker 1: this has definitely so much to do with our personal yes, 25 00:02:01,520 --> 00:02:05,240 Speaker 1: and our life projectory entirely. Wow, that's interesting. But that 26 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 1: was a period of about like four years they were married, 27 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:10,400 Speaker 1: four or five years they were married. Yeah, they were divorced. 28 00:02:10,480 --> 00:02:14,560 Speaker 1: They got divorced when I was five, Well, right, we three? No, No, 29 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:18,880 Speaker 1: I was eighteen months when they called it. Really yeah, 30 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:21,600 Speaker 1: so you were, well maybe not like officially divorced, but 31 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:24,800 Speaker 1: I thought I was five years old. No, I don't know, 32 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:27,760 Speaker 1: I don't know. Anyway, they got divorced. Mom was single 33 00:02:27,800 --> 00:02:33,079 Speaker 1: for a while. Ish boyfriends, Okay, yeah, So then then 34 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:36,920 Speaker 1: enter I was about three, which means you're about three 35 00:02:36,919 --> 00:02:41,320 Speaker 1: and a half. You're about six six, Yeah, and enter 36 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:48,120 Speaker 1: kr Kurt Vogel, Russell Kurt Vogel, Russell kbr I remember. 37 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:52,200 Speaker 1: So then Boston came into the picture and and mom 38 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:55,359 Speaker 1: past started dating on Swing Shift. Cute story, but we'll 39 00:02:55,400 --> 00:02:58,440 Speaker 1: say that that's for them. But go back, go back 40 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 1: a second because there's a really beautiful story you want 41 00:03:01,160 --> 00:03:03,640 Speaker 1: to tell you about when Pa and Mom and on 42 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:06,639 Speaker 1: their first date and he went and saw a sleeping 43 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:09,680 Speaker 1: Remember that, Yeah, well it was the first time she 44 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:11,880 Speaker 1: brought him home to the house. Yeah, it wasn't the 45 00:03:11,919 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 1: first date. She brought the to the beach house. We 46 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:21,720 Speaker 1: were living in deep Malibu. And Mom said that that's 47 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:25,040 Speaker 1: sort of when she fell in love with Kurt. Was 48 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:29,360 Speaker 1: right away. Was because she brought him back to the 49 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:33,679 Speaker 1: house and we'd already been asleep and we shared a room, 50 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:36,760 Speaker 1: and I remember we had twin beds, and I had 51 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:41,200 Speaker 1: Annie sheets and you had Star Wars sheets, and we 52 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:47,360 Speaker 1: were sleeping and and Mom said, he walked in and 53 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 1: he saw us, and she unexpectedly thought he was just 54 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:53,560 Speaker 1: going to like peek in and see them, But he 55 00:03:53,760 --> 00:03:56,560 Speaker 1: sat down next to each of us. He sat down 56 00:03:56,960 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 1: next to you first and watched you sleep, and then 57 00:04:01,360 --> 00:04:08,360 Speaker 1: came by. I believe he watched me the longest, according 58 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 1: to the story. When Mom tells me the story, I 59 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:14,680 Speaker 1: feel like I got like like I was the last 60 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:16,400 Speaker 1: one that he looked at. And then he sat there 61 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:18,799 Speaker 1: for a really long time. Maybe he was just trying 62 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:25,239 Speaker 1: to figure you out. You know, it can be true. 63 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:28,800 Speaker 1: I was younger and probably cuter. I was like three, 64 00:04:29,760 --> 00:04:31,600 Speaker 1: you were like older, you were like you know what 65 00:04:31,640 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 1: I mean. I was like my awkward face, yeah, you 66 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:36,440 Speaker 1: like weren't as cute, you know, so maybe my looks. 67 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:39,599 Speaker 1: It was just like oh god, bit and then it 68 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:42,000 Speaker 1: was like, oh there's Katie and she's like really cute. 69 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:44,960 Speaker 1: So I was like so little right right right? Well, 70 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 1: he also it wasn't you shouldn't take it personally. No, Well, 71 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:50,039 Speaker 1: here's the thing. He's also trying to sort of, you know, 72 00:04:50,120 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 1: maybe get get in my hands. Okay, so there's that aspect. 73 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:56,560 Speaker 1: So it's like, let's go to the daughter a little longer, 74 00:04:57,120 --> 00:04:59,560 Speaker 1: you know, because the mother daughter will baby because she's 75 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 1: the baby. So that's what it was. No anyway, I'm 76 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:08,520 Speaker 1: kind of kidding. So so yeah, it for a long time. 77 00:05:08,640 --> 00:05:11,080 Speaker 1: Mom said so long that like she was almost like 78 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:16,040 Speaker 1: she was like, yeah, She's like Kurt, like should we 79 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:19,000 Speaker 1: do something? I mean, should we get a drink? He's 80 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:22,239 Speaker 1: like still in there. Yeah. I loved that story because 81 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:26,400 Speaker 1: she realized then, as mom says that that values and 82 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:32,240 Speaker 1: kids family values was everything to Kurt. Then enter Boston. 83 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:34,720 Speaker 1: I remember the first time I ever saw Boston. Do 84 00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:36,320 Speaker 1: you remember the first time you ever saw I don't 85 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:38,520 Speaker 1: think you were in the car. Actually we had the Volvo. 86 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:41,920 Speaker 1: We had a Volvo station Wagon. Oh yeah, yeah, And 87 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:44,920 Speaker 1: we went and we went to pick up It was 88 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:49,920 Speaker 1: the first time I remember Kurt talking about his son, 89 00:05:50,760 --> 00:05:53,000 Speaker 1: and I remember it was like it was almost like 90 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:57,720 Speaker 1: it was for me, it felt like such a big moment. 91 00:05:57,760 --> 00:05:59,800 Speaker 1: I mean I because it was like, oh my god, 92 00:05:59,839 --> 00:06:03,159 Speaker 1: I'm my mom's obviously madly in love with this guy 93 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:06,640 Speaker 1: he's and for me at the time, it was like, 94 00:06:06,839 --> 00:06:10,920 Speaker 1: is this going to be my dad? You know? And 95 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 1: I was meeting his son, which meant does this mean 96 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:17,240 Speaker 1: that this is my brother? You know? It was a 97 00:06:17,279 --> 00:06:19,520 Speaker 1: lot to handle at such a young age. You had 98 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:22,840 Speaker 1: so many feelings and connections, and I don't remember any 99 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:25,920 Speaker 1: of this. I was like floating in space somewhere. Well, 100 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:28,280 Speaker 1: I had none of these fews, floating in space till 101 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:35,000 Speaker 1: about like seven months ago. But it's amazing that you 102 00:06:35,080 --> 00:06:39,680 Speaker 1: remember these FeAs me. I don't remember very vivid memories 103 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:44,960 Speaker 1: being really young. And I remember pulling up to the house. 104 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:49,360 Speaker 1: It was a outpost and it was one of those 105 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:53,240 Speaker 1: houses that had no driveway. It was a staircase. It 106 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:55,440 Speaker 1: was one of those one of those gates that had 107 00:06:55,440 --> 00:06:59,320 Speaker 1: a big long staircase, like outdoor staircase down to the 108 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:04,160 Speaker 1: house Laurel Canyon Vibe, and up came this little toe 109 00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:08,320 Speaker 1: head he was so little, I'll never forget it, in 110 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:12,120 Speaker 1: the doorway and he was nervous and he had a 111 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:14,000 Speaker 1: little I forget what it was. It was some kind 112 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 1: of like a banky and it was up by his 113 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:20,560 Speaker 1: face and he was so cute and skinny, I know, 114 00:07:21,960 --> 00:07:23,760 Speaker 1: and I just remember looking at him. Oh my god, 115 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:26,120 Speaker 1: I guess we're getting emotional talking about this, and I 116 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:28,600 Speaker 1: just I'll never forget his face. I'll never forget it. 117 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:32,120 Speaker 1: And he came in the backroom like little crooked glasses. Yeah, 118 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:38,760 Speaker 1: oh I know. And he came in and sat next 119 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:42,880 Speaker 1: to me and it was like who is this kid? 120 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:46,440 Speaker 1: And then we started driving and it was just like 121 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:48,560 Speaker 1: you know that, I mean, it was just that was it. 122 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:52,880 Speaker 1: That was That was my introduction to Boston. And within 123 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:56,200 Speaker 1: he was very shy at first, and then within hours 124 00:07:56,240 --> 00:08:01,240 Speaker 1: it was like, oh no, like, oh he's just insane. 125 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:05,920 Speaker 1: I mean, hobskipping a jump was his nickname. He did 126 00:08:05,960 --> 00:08:10,360 Speaker 1: not stop moving. He had the highest, loudest voice. He 127 00:08:10,360 --> 00:08:12,760 Speaker 1: would get in your face. He took everything out of 128 00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 1: your hands, deep deep into the fantasy world everything Peter 129 00:08:17,040 --> 00:08:20,600 Speaker 1: Pan Pan. He was obsessed with Peter Pan. And it 130 00:08:20,640 --> 00:08:23,680 Speaker 1: wasn't like it wasn't like a normal obsession, like he 131 00:08:23,880 --> 00:08:27,040 Speaker 1: was Peter Pan. Oh yeah, he believed he was Peter Pan. 132 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:29,560 Speaker 1: I remember one time Boston, I used to share a 133 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:33,839 Speaker 1: room in the beginning, and I remember one time he 134 00:08:33,920 --> 00:08:35,640 Speaker 1: woke up. He used to talk in his sleep, and 135 00:08:35,679 --> 00:08:37,679 Speaker 1: he woke up and he literally sat up and went 136 00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:40,240 Speaker 1: Peter Pan just you know, he said was it was 137 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:44,200 Speaker 1: Captain Hook flip flying flying overhead flying, and like went 138 00:08:44,240 --> 00:08:46,000 Speaker 1: back down. I was like, oh my god, he's nuts. 139 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:50,520 Speaker 1: This is real, Like he really in his dream states 140 00:08:50,840 --> 00:08:53,719 Speaker 1: he's Peter Pan. Yeah. That was interesting throwing another kid 141 00:08:53,760 --> 00:08:59,160 Speaker 1: into the mix right away. And then one one Christmas, 142 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:04,040 Speaker 1: Santa leaves a little present. We all see it. It's 143 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:07,840 Speaker 1: up at the in the chimney. In the chimney, that's right, 144 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:10,000 Speaker 1: it was in the chimney. There were sleigh tracks going 145 00:09:10,120 --> 00:09:11,840 Speaker 1: off of the roof. Right with the roof, we were 146 00:09:11,840 --> 00:09:15,200 Speaker 1: able to get to the roof. Blitzen's bells off of 147 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:18,600 Speaker 1: his neck and they were laying in the snow on 148 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:22,360 Speaker 1: the roof, and then stuck in the chimney was a 149 00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:26,800 Speaker 1: present present that got left behind behind right, and we 150 00:09:26,880 --> 00:09:28,880 Speaker 1: opened the present from Sanamy. Do you know what it was? 151 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:32,560 Speaker 1: It was a little onesie. It was a little onesie 152 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:34,600 Speaker 1: and we were like, what does this mean. They're like, 153 00:09:34,679 --> 00:09:39,000 Speaker 1: I don't know. Cut to mom power pregnant. Ye, it's 154 00:09:39,040 --> 00:09:42,240 Speaker 1: a great way to sort of kind of kind of 155 00:09:42,400 --> 00:09:44,200 Speaker 1: slip it in there with the kids that there might 156 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:48,520 Speaker 1: be a kid on the way and Mama power preggers 157 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:56,679 Speaker 1: with little Why not? Wyatt Russell and I remember thinking 158 00:09:56,679 --> 00:09:58,640 Speaker 1: because we were older at the time. I mean I 159 00:09:58,800 --> 00:10:02,440 Speaker 1: was sick, and I mean older in terms of you know, 160 00:10:02,679 --> 00:10:06,800 Speaker 1: and you were almost ten nine and when he was born, 161 00:10:06,960 --> 00:10:11,440 Speaker 1: we were seven and ten. So for me as a girl, 162 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:14,439 Speaker 1: it was like having a doll. It was like having 163 00:10:14,440 --> 00:10:17,240 Speaker 1: a baby. And he was the baby. He was this 164 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:20,040 Speaker 1: like I mean talk about the golden child. I mean none, 165 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:22,880 Speaker 1: we all had awkward phases. You know, you look at 166 00:10:22,880 --> 00:10:26,040 Speaker 1: pictures of us as kids, and we're all like weird 167 00:10:26,080 --> 00:10:31,560 Speaker 1: looking and making weird face. Whyat was the cutest baby 168 00:10:33,160 --> 00:10:36,280 Speaker 1: still call little man? He was the little man, and 169 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:39,720 Speaker 1: he had these big lips and those you know paws, 170 00:10:39,800 --> 00:10:45,600 Speaker 1: those eyes, the Russell eyes, blue blue blue eyes, another 171 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:50,200 Speaker 1: toe head. I mean, he was just so cute and 172 00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:53,800 Speaker 1: he was such he was a July baby cancer and 173 00:10:53,840 --> 00:11:00,400 Speaker 1: he was so sensitive, so sensitive got them mid Oh 174 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:03,719 Speaker 1: yeah at some point multiple times, Oh for sure, Yeah, yeah, yeah. 175 00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:05,280 Speaker 1: I mean I don't know about why, why it might 176 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:08,280 Speaker 1: be too cool. No, he's in, he's in. I'll make him. 177 00:11:08,679 --> 00:11:12,040 Speaker 1: But anyway, Boston, you know, especially for me, he got 178 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:14,280 Speaker 1: me into a lot of trouble because I would kick 179 00:11:14,360 --> 00:11:17,160 Speaker 1: him or do whatever I was doing. And you know, 180 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:20,160 Speaker 1: the minute that he told on me, that was it. 181 00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:24,800 Speaker 1: I mean I hadn't it was Judge Jerry throw away 182 00:11:24,800 --> 00:11:26,880 Speaker 1: at the key. I was done for. I got in 183 00:11:26,920 --> 00:11:29,520 Speaker 1: trouble all the time. Remember, Boston was the one that 184 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:33,400 Speaker 1: we used to make ask Paw everything, Like if we 185 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:36,400 Speaker 1: wanted a trampoline, we'd be like Boston, Yeah, because he 186 00:11:36,440 --> 00:11:40,200 Speaker 1: would get convince Boston how important it was to like 187 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:43,360 Speaker 1: get a trampoline, because we knew that if he asked Paw, 188 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:47,240 Speaker 1: by by end of the day, we'd have a trampoline. Well, 189 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:50,880 Speaker 1: whenever we wanted something, we get together and make it happen. Yeah, 190 00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:53,400 Speaker 1: and then once we get it, then you know, I 191 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:55,599 Speaker 1: hate you, and yeah, oud at you for being with 192 00:11:55,880 --> 00:11:59,280 Speaker 1: who you are and oh gosh, so great, you know 193 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:03,280 Speaker 1: you were so any great stories, so let me so 194 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:06,199 Speaker 1: let's keep going. So at this time, didn't you bother me? Though? 195 00:12:06,320 --> 00:12:08,720 Speaker 1: I really wonder about that. We talk about it, that 196 00:12:08,760 --> 00:12:11,600 Speaker 1: I did, but I've never really thought about it. I mean, 197 00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:14,360 Speaker 1: what do you mean? I mean I can tell you this. 198 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:19,720 Speaker 1: I mean I can spell it out for you. I 199 00:12:19,360 --> 00:12:21,319 Speaker 1: think I think it would take too long to actually 200 00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:28,080 Speaker 1: spell the whole thing out. I could sing it. I 201 00:12:28,120 --> 00:12:29,920 Speaker 1: can get the rights to this, I think I think 202 00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:32,360 Speaker 1: it was I could definitely get the rights to this 203 00:12:32,440 --> 00:12:37,760 Speaker 1: song on our podcast. Okay, because he's jealous, he's jealous. 204 00:12:41,280 --> 00:12:44,440 Speaker 1: There probably was a little bit of that, Oh, Oliver, 205 00:12:44,559 --> 00:12:46,880 Speaker 1: come on, I can't by the time I came home. 206 00:12:47,520 --> 00:12:50,000 Speaker 1: I think it's for every It would be great to 207 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:53,880 Speaker 1: when we get a child, you know, psychologist, a family 208 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:58,000 Speaker 1: sort of psychologist. The dynamic shifts, like when you're when 209 00:12:58,080 --> 00:13:02,800 Speaker 1: you have the attention of a parent, you know, and 210 00:13:02,840 --> 00:13:05,120 Speaker 1: then all of a sudden you throw into the mix 211 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:08,520 Speaker 1: you know, and you know, not only that you were 212 00:13:08,559 --> 00:13:12,240 Speaker 1: still so young, and there is something like little girls 213 00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:17,040 Speaker 1: is a whole different feeling than boys, you know, I 214 00:13:17,080 --> 00:13:21,760 Speaker 1: mean it just by nature, people are more doting, I 215 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:24,640 Speaker 1: think on little girls. I think the other thing too, 216 00:13:24,720 --> 00:13:28,400 Speaker 1: is that I didn't have a stable family, right, So 217 00:13:28,480 --> 00:13:32,200 Speaker 1: there was divorce, There was a lot of instability, and 218 00:13:32,240 --> 00:13:37,280 Speaker 1: I think that for me especially, I attached myself to mom, 219 00:13:37,559 --> 00:13:40,520 Speaker 1: you know, and dad, I'm sure, but when you came 220 00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:44,120 Speaker 1: into the mix, it was unstable to begin good to 221 00:13:44,160 --> 00:13:47,839 Speaker 1: share and as bullshit. And we don't forget I mean 222 00:13:47,880 --> 00:13:50,080 Speaker 1: as someone. I mean I'm literally here, I am with 223 00:13:50,120 --> 00:13:54,400 Speaker 1: a five month old. You forget how much goes into baby. 224 00:13:54,559 --> 00:13:58,000 Speaker 1: So you really have to focus on the baby. And 225 00:13:58,040 --> 00:14:00,520 Speaker 1: it's really hard when you're that little. I mean is 226 00:14:01,320 --> 00:14:04,120 Speaker 1: you have to you know, and and at that time, 227 00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:06,000 Speaker 1: I mean think about all of the things and the 228 00:14:06,040 --> 00:14:08,560 Speaker 1: research we know and the things that we do. At 229 00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:12,680 Speaker 1: that time, you took you took attention away from me 230 00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:15,960 Speaker 1: in a time where you needed it. I needed it 231 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:19,080 Speaker 1: because there was no stability in the in the in 232 00:14:19,120 --> 00:14:22,000 Speaker 1: the home, right. So then you hated me. Yeah, And 233 00:14:22,080 --> 00:14:25,840 Speaker 1: you would take oranges and catapult them into mic in 234 00:14:26,080 --> 00:14:30,400 Speaker 1: c And I missed I know you did, damn it. 235 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:33,400 Speaker 1: We had a childhood that I think a lot of 236 00:14:33,440 --> 00:14:37,520 Speaker 1: people would look at and think that it was, you know, 237 00:14:38,800 --> 00:14:43,520 Speaker 1: the best child, and I in retrospect look back and go, 238 00:14:43,640 --> 00:14:48,600 Speaker 1: we had just a wonderful upbringing. Oh yes, I mean 239 00:14:49,160 --> 00:14:52,960 Speaker 1: were very lucky human beings, right, But like any other 240 00:14:53,160 --> 00:14:56,880 Speaker 1: family or family dynamic, then at some point you have 241 00:14:56,960 --> 00:14:59,320 Speaker 1: to accept the fact that yes, on the outside, everything 242 00:14:59,360 --> 00:15:02,360 Speaker 1: looks great, but their always going to be something, always 243 00:15:02,400 --> 00:15:06,320 Speaker 1: going to be the family dynamic. Someone's gonna fuck someone 244 00:15:06,440 --> 00:15:08,920 Speaker 1: up whether you're you know, I always say, like you 245 00:15:08,920 --> 00:15:12,240 Speaker 1: could be mother Teresa and Gandhi could be your parents, 246 00:15:13,280 --> 00:15:16,320 Speaker 1: and they're gonna yeah, I mean you okay, yeah, you know, 247 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:22,000 Speaker 1: and you're gonna be like, I mean, Gandhi's Gandhi's son 248 00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:23,800 Speaker 1: is probably like dad, Like, I get it, and I 249 00:15:23,840 --> 00:15:27,160 Speaker 1: love what you're doing, but like, what what about me? Yeah, 250 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:28,800 Speaker 1: I mean, I mean what about I mean I want 251 00:15:28,840 --> 00:15:32,680 Speaker 1: you to yeah, please please pay attention to me, I think. 252 00:15:32,840 --> 00:15:35,160 Speaker 1: But that's what I mean. So it's fun. Mother, imagine 253 00:15:35,160 --> 00:15:38,080 Speaker 1: me the daughter mother Teresa. It's like list, she gives 254 00:15:38,120 --> 00:15:40,320 Speaker 1: so much to your out healing the world, but what 255 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:46,320 Speaker 1: about me? You know, I'm so sensitive with this stupid 256 00:15:46,360 --> 00:15:49,280 Speaker 1: podcast because I don't want to sound like a spoiled 257 00:15:49,280 --> 00:15:52,560 Speaker 1: ass But here's the thing, but well you'll and I'm 258 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:55,600 Speaker 1: not a spoil that, you're not a spoiled asshole. Think 259 00:15:55,600 --> 00:15:58,440 Speaker 1: about how we grew up. Just think about it. Think 260 00:15:58,440 --> 00:16:02,120 Speaker 1: about it. It has something to do it. But we're Yeah, 261 00:16:02,120 --> 00:16:05,320 Speaker 1: but we were actually raised really well. I know, I understand. 262 00:16:05,480 --> 00:16:08,440 Speaker 1: So let people think you're an asshole. Who cares? I know, 263 00:16:08,560 --> 00:16:10,840 Speaker 1: maybe that's the lesson, you know what I mean, Like, 264 00:16:10,920 --> 00:16:12,960 Speaker 1: I get it. You're the one who called me out. 265 00:16:13,080 --> 00:16:16,000 Speaker 1: Mom sent you a chef. Oliver that needs to be 266 00:16:16,040 --> 00:16:29,040 Speaker 1: cut from this podcast immediately, immediately, immediately. It's the truth. 267 00:16:29,560 --> 00:16:33,960 Speaker 1: I I couldn't believe it. I was. It was a 268 00:16:34,000 --> 00:16:40,120 Speaker 1: horrible believe it. These cast roles were disgusting. But this 269 00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:43,320 Speaker 1: is what I'm saying, People go, don't have to cut 270 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:46,440 Speaker 1: this because what do you know? What do you I 271 00:16:46,560 --> 00:16:52,000 Speaker 1: didn't ask for cast roles every week, not the point 272 00:16:52,600 --> 00:16:57,360 Speaker 1: the rest of the world goes, God, what a dick. 273 00:16:57,560 --> 00:16:59,840 Speaker 1: Nobody would have said that, you know I because there's 274 00:16:59,840 --> 00:17:02,840 Speaker 1: no one knew I had a chef until now, until now, 275 00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:07,160 Speaker 1: you told people that there was a chef that brought 276 00:17:07,240 --> 00:17:10,800 Speaker 1: me fucking true. I spent most of my teenage years 277 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:13,080 Speaker 1: rolling my eyes at the things that were going on 278 00:17:13,320 --> 00:17:17,919 Speaker 1: with you. But by the way, here's the thing, it 279 00:17:18,119 --> 00:17:20,480 Speaker 1: just is what it is. At the end of the day. 280 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:23,520 Speaker 1: I didn't you don't really, even if you apologized, we were. 281 00:17:23,760 --> 00:17:27,080 Speaker 1: We were born really fucking lucky. But that doesn't mean that. 282 00:17:27,119 --> 00:17:30,440 Speaker 1: It doesn't mean there's a responsibility to understanding how lucky 283 00:17:30,480 --> 00:17:33,960 Speaker 1: we are. And I think our parents raised us knowing 284 00:17:34,440 --> 00:17:36,760 Speaker 1: that it was luck, that it wasn't our work ethic. 285 00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:40,520 Speaker 1: I told the chef I didn't want him anymore. Okay, 286 00:17:41,119 --> 00:17:47,040 Speaker 1: I was greatly embarrassed. I didn't like his food. And 287 00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:50,000 Speaker 1: I have one word horrible. I have one word for you, 288 00:17:51,640 --> 00:17:58,160 Speaker 1: snowplow child. It's a hyphened word, snowplow child. No. Yeah, 289 00:17:58,520 --> 00:18:04,359 Speaker 1: part of the issue, No, I was like middle and 290 00:18:04,800 --> 00:18:08,760 Speaker 1: like everything was like, oh, you're fine, You're fine. Nobody 291 00:18:09,119 --> 00:18:12,600 Speaker 1: also need you didn't have you didn't have nearly. I 292 00:18:12,640 --> 00:18:16,400 Speaker 1: had struggles that I had had. I had full middle child. Look, 293 00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:21,720 Speaker 1: it's mom Oh my god, hey, mama, my mommy. I 294 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:26,600 Speaker 1: see where's body body is? Yeah he's no, he's not 295 00:18:26,600 --> 00:18:31,000 Speaker 1: at school. He's at home. Oh that's right. Yeah, Hey mom, 296 00:18:31,040 --> 00:18:33,400 Speaker 1: can okay, can I ask you a question real quick 297 00:18:33,440 --> 00:18:37,520 Speaker 1: about what you got me? A chef in college? Right? Yeah? 298 00:18:38,240 --> 00:18:41,840 Speaker 1: Why did you do that to me? Because you weren't eating? 299 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:44,600 Speaker 1: Katie and I were just talking about this, and she 300 00:18:44,680 --> 00:18:47,320 Speaker 1: reminded me of this. You weren't eating. No, I remember 301 00:18:47,520 --> 00:18:51,680 Speaker 1: like you got she rightfully said, because you weren't eating right, 302 00:18:52,840 --> 00:18:54,760 Speaker 1: And I wanted them to come and just put stuff 303 00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:56,919 Speaker 1: on your refrigerator. That's why you're a snow point. But 304 00:18:56,920 --> 00:19:00,639 Speaker 1: who did you call to get this done? I don't know. 305 00:19:00,760 --> 00:19:03,520 Speaker 1: You know, I source things out. What can I tell you? 306 00:19:03,520 --> 00:19:07,080 Speaker 1: It's been a long time ago. But it's probably not 307 00:19:07,240 --> 00:19:09,400 Speaker 1: a good thing that you did that for me, though, 308 00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:12,520 Speaker 1: I mean, that's embarrassed. It's embarrassing. I mean we're just 309 00:19:12,560 --> 00:19:15,840 Speaker 1: talking about it. It's like horribly embarrassing that. I mean, 310 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:18,920 Speaker 1: I was a college kid and there was being fucking 311 00:19:19,320 --> 00:19:22,720 Speaker 1: Oh she's gone, she hung out. Oh there she is. 312 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:26,679 Speaker 1: I don't want to she says, whoops, lost you bad area? 313 00:19:27,320 --> 00:19:30,960 Speaker 1: Oh god, okay, anyway, can we let's not let's move on. 314 00:19:31,480 --> 00:19:35,960 Speaker 1: But here's the thing. Here's the point. I had struggles 315 00:19:36,680 --> 00:19:40,879 Speaker 1: that you had never understood all of her. Using this 316 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:46,000 Speaker 1: podcast is a way to break down our psychologue. You 317 00:19:46,840 --> 00:19:49,399 Speaker 1: put a lot you want to go deeper with me 318 00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:52,600 Speaker 1: in a way that I'm just like, I'm happy to 319 00:19:52,600 --> 00:19:55,120 Speaker 1: go there with you. I just didn't have the same experience. 320 00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:57,760 Speaker 1: You're the one calling me a snowplow kid, but you were. 321 00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:01,159 Speaker 1: You can't expect me to come back after you're calling 322 00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:03,800 Speaker 1: me a snowplow kid. I need to retort. I need 323 00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:08,560 Speaker 1: to defend myself, meaning that I had struggles of my 324 00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:13,320 Speaker 1: own that you've never understood or gone through yourself. But 325 00:20:13,359 --> 00:20:17,439 Speaker 1: you've never experienced what it's like to be I know 326 00:20:17,800 --> 00:20:21,320 Speaker 1: your career there was you just boom like this. But 327 00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:25,840 Speaker 1: we're talking. But there's a reason for that. Luck some 328 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:32,040 Speaker 1: major and dedication and personality talent. Talent goes without saying, 329 00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:36,720 Speaker 1: you're extremely Oliver, Oliver, Oliver. All I ever did Penny 330 00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:39,520 Speaker 1: Lane was need for your job perform. You didn't even 331 00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:43,160 Speaker 1: get Penny Lane first. She did get Penny Lane first. 332 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:45,760 Speaker 1: Here's the thing she fell into Penny Lane. Here's the thing. 333 00:20:46,080 --> 00:20:48,640 Speaker 1: You want us to have the same experience. I don't 334 00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:51,680 Speaker 1: want to stand the reality was so great. The reality, 335 00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:54,520 Speaker 1: the reality was is that I was a different type 336 00:20:54,520 --> 00:20:57,399 Speaker 1: of person, No doubt, I was way more dedicated to 337 00:20:57,440 --> 00:21:04,400 Speaker 1: the craft. I all I did was perform sing, make 338 00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:07,879 Speaker 1: M make me dance. I danced. I mean I was 339 00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:12,359 Speaker 1: dedicated to the performing arts from a really young age. 340 00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:15,239 Speaker 1: It was very different. You were like partying and like 341 00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:18,840 Speaker 1: you were like freestyling with like which was like with 342 00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:22,320 Speaker 1: like John and Alex and you were like you had 343 00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:30,639 Speaker 1: you had a crew called the Rice Crispy Crew. Snap Snap, freestyle. 344 00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:33,800 Speaker 1: You don't know how to style? Yeah, well that's not 345 00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:36,399 Speaker 1: the point. The point is is that what have you 346 00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:39,840 Speaker 1: done with your freestyling A lot? I've done it in 347 00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:43,760 Speaker 1: a movie. I'm just saying. I'm saying that we were 348 00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:49,320 Speaker 1: very different. We were very different personality types, freestyle, creative, 349 00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:53,520 Speaker 1: brain lot based on how we were raised and our 350 00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:57,680 Speaker 1: experience of who we were and how that happened. That's 351 00:21:57,720 --> 00:22:00,320 Speaker 1: just the truth. No. Look, I always used to say 352 00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:03,479 Speaker 1: to Mom. Interestingly enough, I said, because her story, her 353 00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:07,080 Speaker 1: success story is really awesome. I made her world that 354 00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:09,159 Speaker 1: she grew up in and how it happened for and 355 00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:11,480 Speaker 1: I remember saying, God, I'm just so envious of you 356 00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:14,439 Speaker 1: because I will never have that story I almost was 357 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:16,840 Speaker 1: rejecting where I came from because I have it so 358 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:20,400 Speaker 1: easy and I'll never have that cool fucking story. Now 359 00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:23,840 Speaker 1: I don't have her story, but I do have my story. 360 00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:27,160 Speaker 1: I mean, it's been a struggle, it's been tough, it's 361 00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:32,560 Speaker 1: been working. You know, people think that. For me, it 362 00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:34,520 Speaker 1: was like, oh, you can just go do what you're 363 00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:36,440 Speaker 1: going to do because of who your parents are. Now. 364 00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:40,240 Speaker 1: Have I dedicated myself like you, No, not even close. 365 00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:43,639 Speaker 1: My dedication is coming later on in life. Well, Allie, 366 00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:47,000 Speaker 1: you had, That's what I'm saying you. I mean, I'm 367 00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:49,400 Speaker 1: trying to figure out how to say this without sounding 368 00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:52,760 Speaker 1: like it's like you had a lot to go through 369 00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:56,480 Speaker 1: you you had to mature. Oh and I like came 370 00:22:56,520 --> 00:23:00,280 Speaker 1: out like one hundred years old. Yeah, okay, I was 371 00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:03,720 Speaker 1: like ready to I was ready to run in ninth grade. 372 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:08,200 Speaker 1: Like I was like high school partying. No, I hardly 373 00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:10,879 Speaker 1: did that. The only thing I had was I was 374 00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:13,920 Speaker 1: boy crazy. I loved boys. The reality is is that, 375 00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:16,879 Speaker 1: you know, Mom and I might be outnumbered in terms 376 00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:21,160 Speaker 1: of the men, but like that's some real like we're 377 00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:27,240 Speaker 1: very outspoken women, you know, and given the forum and 378 00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:33,000 Speaker 1: the stage to be who I was from Mom. So 379 00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:36,760 Speaker 1: what you're saying is this podcast is a chance for 380 00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:44,920 Speaker 1: me to be better than you. No. I think podcasts 381 00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:51,399 Speaker 1: an interesting dynamic, and that's why I love what my 382 00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:53,879 Speaker 1: life has been up to this point, even through all 383 00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:57,280 Speaker 1: of the shed when you said, you know, Mom has 384 00:23:57,320 --> 00:24:00,160 Speaker 1: this amazing story, and I never felt like it, It's 385 00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:04,680 Speaker 1: funny for me, I was so ready for my own story. 386 00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:08,280 Speaker 1: I never felt that I wanted to compete or that 387 00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:10,960 Speaker 1: it was ever point it was ever going to be something. 388 00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:13,320 Speaker 1: I was just like, I'm ready to go live my life. 389 00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:15,520 Speaker 1: You're ready to go make your own life. Yeah, I'm 390 00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:19,440 Speaker 1: I was envious of a story and I was living 391 00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:24,240 Speaker 1: in the defeatist place immediately, and you were of this optimism. Well, 392 00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:26,679 Speaker 1: I'm going to go create my own. And I think 393 00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:31,040 Speaker 1: let's go back to how our experiences was as siblings, 394 00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:34,560 Speaker 1: Like we no matter what you know, we had. You know, 395 00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:38,000 Speaker 1: our relationship with our father is where it is now, 396 00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:43,880 Speaker 1: but growing up we did have that as the foundation 397 00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:47,679 Speaker 1: of I think what informed most of our childhood and 398 00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:50,320 Speaker 1: most of our young adult life until we had to 399 00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:54,400 Speaker 1: like do the deep dive into why do we make 400 00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:56,720 Speaker 1: the decisions we make or why do we keep making 401 00:24:56,760 --> 00:24:59,600 Speaker 1: the same decisions or why am I you know, all 402 00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:01,480 Speaker 1: of this stuff that anyone does when they're at a 403 00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:04,040 Speaker 1: point in their life when they say I need to 404 00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:07,480 Speaker 1: change this is this, this part of my life isn't working. 405 00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:10,760 Speaker 1: So how do I understand myself better, the science of 406 00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:14,240 Speaker 1: myself better? Like we both had that. It just is 407 00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:19,760 Speaker 1: different even though it's the same situation. And I think 408 00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:23,240 Speaker 1: that's what's so interesting about this show and this podcast 409 00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:26,680 Speaker 1: is that we have the same mom and the same dad. 410 00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:31,720 Speaker 1: We both in our own little way, you know, you know, 411 00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:36,879 Speaker 1: had whatever trauma we felt from our father and our 412 00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:41,160 Speaker 1: mother at times, and we both and stepfather like any 413 00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:44,840 Speaker 1: family dynamic, which is exactly which is not any different 414 00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:48,440 Speaker 1: from anybody else, right, because everyone has a different well 415 00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:50,720 Speaker 1: degrees with well yes, But my point is is that 416 00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:55,560 Speaker 1: we saw it and felt it differently, you know. We 417 00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:59,560 Speaker 1: we always talk about our parents and how their actions 418 00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:03,080 Speaker 1: affect us as kids and what direction we go in 419 00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:06,560 Speaker 1: and affects our psyche and everything else, but we really 420 00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:09,480 Speaker 1: don't talk much about how a new sibling coming into 421 00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:12,800 Speaker 1: your life will shift and transition your entire life, will 422 00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:15,879 Speaker 1: change your entire life for good or bad, you know, 423 00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:22,919 Speaker 1: because everything changes when your world is disrupted by another entity, 424 00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:27,240 Speaker 1: by another energy that is taking focus from you, from 425 00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:32,560 Speaker 1: your parents, you know. And it's really I don't feel 426 00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:35,560 Speaker 1: like it's even talked about that much, the psychology of 427 00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:39,400 Speaker 1: the sibling, you know, and we talk about the psychology 428 00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:41,480 Speaker 1: of the parent. We hit on that over and over 429 00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:43,560 Speaker 1: and over again. There's books and books written about it, 430 00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:46,560 Speaker 1: and I'm sure there are books written about the sibling psychology, 431 00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:49,320 Speaker 1: but it's definitely not at the forefront of things and 432 00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:54,080 Speaker 1: potentially just as important, you know, because you coming into 433 00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:58,160 Speaker 1: my world at that point in my life, it shifted 434 00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:02,600 Speaker 1: well there being forever. So here's a good statistic, you bitch. 435 00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:09,960 Speaker 1: First borns are usually the center of attraction as compared 436 00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:15,720 Speaker 1: to the younger siblings. Firstborns have approximately three thousand more 437 00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:19,720 Speaker 1: hours of quality time with their parents between ages four 438 00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:25,520 Speaker 1: and thirteen. So even when you probably felt like because 439 00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:27,600 Speaker 1: I know from my point of view as the middle child, 440 00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:31,320 Speaker 1: even when you felt like, okay, well she's taking away 441 00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:34,000 Speaker 1: this or now I have to deal with this other dynamic, 442 00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:37,040 Speaker 1: from my point of view, you were always the center 443 00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:40,720 Speaker 1: of that attention, far more than what I have read, 444 00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:43,600 Speaker 1: meaning that that was your perspective, that was my perspective, 445 00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:47,399 Speaker 1: or my perspective was the antithesis, where was the opposite? Yeah, 446 00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:51,920 Speaker 1: statistically speaking, I'm I'm probably more correct. I think maybe 447 00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:56,240 Speaker 1: a lot of that through this entire podcast. No, but 448 00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:59,680 Speaker 1: but it is an interesting statistic. If I could use 449 00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:03,119 Speaker 1: my platform and we could use our relationship as a 450 00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:06,520 Speaker 1: way to kick start a dialogue with people, I want 451 00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:09,240 Speaker 1: to talk so badly. I know, I know, I'm gonna 452 00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:11,160 Speaker 1: let you talk in a second. I know. What I'm 453 00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:13,960 Speaker 1: trying to say is if I could give anything back. 454 00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:16,520 Speaker 1: And I think that's why we want to do this, 455 00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:19,600 Speaker 1: and we're gonna laugh about our child or whatever, but 456 00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:21,880 Speaker 1: at the end of the day, we're going to have 457 00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:25,920 Speaker 1: people on this show that we will realize, no matter 458 00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:28,359 Speaker 1: where we all come from, we can all sit and 459 00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:31,720 Speaker 1: laugh and relate to so many similar stories and that 460 00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:34,600 Speaker 1: at the end of the day, we just want each 461 00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:37,960 Speaker 1: other to be there to support and love each other. 462 00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:40,920 Speaker 1: It makes us feel like we can do anything. It 463 00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:44,640 Speaker 1: makes the worst possible circumstance feel Okay. Well, the other 464 00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:46,880 Speaker 1: thing too about what we're doing here, I think, and 465 00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:50,719 Speaker 1: going back to even talking about who we are and 466 00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:54,800 Speaker 1: how we grew up and my issues with my success 467 00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:59,080 Speaker 1: and all of those things. It's extremely relatable to other 468 00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:03,240 Speaker 1: people's situations. I very rarely talk about this, but I 469 00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:06,440 Speaker 1: will talk about this for our podcast because I think 470 00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:09,840 Speaker 1: it gives us a form to be able to speak 471 00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:13,400 Speaker 1: more in depth about it. When you grow up with 472 00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:18,280 Speaker 1: you know, parents like we have, you do feel apologetic 473 00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:22,640 Speaker 1: about a lot of things. Like you do spend a 474 00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:27,080 Speaker 1: lot of your young adult life trying to reject where 475 00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:30,440 Speaker 1: you came from because you feel like you're not a 476 00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:33,520 Speaker 1: part of Like you don't want people to think that 477 00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:36,000 Speaker 1: you can't relate to them or that you know, so 478 00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:38,920 Speaker 1: you do spend a lot of your time. I think 479 00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:40,520 Speaker 1: you and I and I think that's a product of 480 00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:45,000 Speaker 1: how we were raised. I did my best skit. I 481 00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:47,720 Speaker 1: didn't want anyone to know who my parents were. I 482 00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:50,680 Speaker 1: wanted people to like me for myself. I didn't want 483 00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:53,440 Speaker 1: to have any inkling of oh my god, maybe I'm 484 00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:56,560 Speaker 1: not good enough. Really well, it's so funny because when 485 00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:59,760 Speaker 1: we were kids in high school, especially when all you 486 00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:03,000 Speaker 1: went to college, every girl wanted to be my friend 487 00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:06,560 Speaker 1: because my brother was like cool and hot and I 488 00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:09,400 Speaker 1: That used to drive me crazy. Yeah, you know why, 489 00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:22,400 Speaker 1: because I freestyle, you're asking dad would be fun much. 490 00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:31,880 Speaker 1: It's actually not that difficult. It's weird. You know. I 491 00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:33,760 Speaker 1: don't know why I can't do it. I've never been 492 00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:48,200 Speaker 1: able to do it. I have a great You're like this, 493 00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:50,480 Speaker 1: no one's hearing a word. You're saying no. But I'm 494 00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:53,920 Speaker 1: trying to get that like that like tribe sounds. That's 495 00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:58,040 Speaker 1: a little it feels far away. That feels a little 496 00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:01,400 Speaker 1: like you're not You're not like you're not like hitting 497 00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:13,560 Speaker 1: the speakers. Yeh ah, Jesus, oh my god. I know 498 00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:16,520 Speaker 1: I can do it. It's like confidence. That's my thing. 499 00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:20,160 Speaker 1: It's my confidence in and my freestyle is terrible. When 500 00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:22,200 Speaker 1: we do get Q tip on here, you're going to 501 00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:24,959 Speaker 1: have to get your down better. First of all, riders 502 00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:27,240 Speaker 1: so good at it, and you you guys, your brain 503 00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:31,720 Speaker 1: just works really good. I am the worst. I cannot 504 00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:37,000 Speaker 1: even rhyme, like with me, if I'm trying to freestyle me, 505 00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:45,560 Speaker 1: you're like, uhh yeah, there's free ce key, there's a 506 00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:50,880 Speaker 1: million bees and nothing makes sense. And so now the 507 00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:52,600 Speaker 1: big thing with the kids in the car with me 508 00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:55,440 Speaker 1: is I just I'm like, rider, give me a beat. 509 00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:59,240 Speaker 1: He's like, mom, don't do this. Give you a beat, 510 00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:01,880 Speaker 1: come on, and he gives me a beat, and I 511 00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:06,760 Speaker 1: just start for styling, and the kids are like, oh, 512 00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:12,080 Speaker 1: so bad. I'm so bad at it, But you're good 513 00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:14,760 Speaker 1: at so many other things, right, are so funny? So 514 00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:17,600 Speaker 1: into hip hop right now? Oh yeah, big time. This 515 00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:19,479 Speaker 1: is good because I do want to get some hip 516 00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:23,160 Speaker 1: We grew up nineties hip hop. Hip hop then was 517 00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:28,160 Speaker 1: so good. I wouldn't know one thing about hip hop 518 00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:32,320 Speaker 1: if it wasn't for you, true bringing that into our home. 519 00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:38,760 Speaker 1: So like part of my musical experience growing up was you. 520 00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:42,960 Speaker 1: You know, you your discovery of music. Anytime you brought 521 00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:46,040 Speaker 1: something in the house, it became the favorite thing for me. 522 00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:51,760 Speaker 1: Think anytime I brought Scott Khan into the house, that 523 00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:56,920 Speaker 1: became Scotti too, Hay Scotti. Ew know it didn't you 524 00:32:57,040 --> 00:33:01,480 Speaker 1: made out with you, Scotti Khan? My growing up, I 525 00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:04,440 Speaker 1: did not. The world needs to know that that never happened. 526 00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:07,880 Speaker 1: Wait a minute, you're not calling Scott. That's not true though, 527 00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:11,640 Speaker 1: But we didn't. We never made out. Uh, yes you did. 528 00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:15,240 Speaker 1: We never made out. I never made out with Scotty Khan. 529 00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:20,960 Speaker 1: This is not true. I didn't. I think you sometimes 530 00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:28,160 Speaker 1: slow sometimes quick quick quick, that's nice and smooth. That's 531 00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:35,280 Speaker 1: another one of my favorites. Or Black Sheep Engine number 532 00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:42,000 Speaker 1: nine goes up, big it up, Big, get up, big 533 00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:46,960 Speaker 1: it up. Back on the scene. I'm so glad Scott 534 00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:49,120 Speaker 1: kN did not answer. I know, you know, he was 535 00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:51,480 Speaker 1: maybe my first crush of all of your friends. I 536 00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:55,560 Speaker 1: thought you made out with him. I'm gone. I never 537 00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:58,240 Speaker 1: made out with him ever. I'm getting to the bottom 538 00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:01,640 Speaker 1: of we never made out. There might have been a 539 00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:04,760 Speaker 1: like I think you did, I don't. I don't think 540 00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:09,239 Speaker 1: so I would have remembered. If I didn't remember, then 541 00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:13,959 Speaker 1: I'm getting old. I think a great way to wrap 542 00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:19,600 Speaker 1: up our first sibling revelry, we should finish it off 543 00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:24,960 Speaker 1: with a freestyle. We talked a lot about freestyling. I 544 00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:27,920 Speaker 1: think that, you know, it's something that people don't know 545 00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:31,640 Speaker 1: about you is there's way too much pressure that's been 546 00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:33,920 Speaker 1: put on this, Like, well, we I think we can 547 00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:36,359 Speaker 1: just kind of flow, but I feel like we need 548 00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:41,080 Speaker 1: a beat. I need like a generic beat. God, oh 549 00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:47,640 Speaker 1: this is like, yeah, oh, this is all right. It's 550 00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:52,040 Speaker 1: kind of fast. Siblings, brothers and sisters. I missed the 551 00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:54,439 Speaker 1: time that we were all together when we were kids, 552 00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:57,520 Speaker 1: maybe nine, maybe eight. It's kind of great when it 553 00:34:57,680 --> 00:34:59,960 Speaker 1: was that stake, But now we're in a whole dementsion. 554 00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:02,200 Speaker 1: And I'll tell you right now, I've got tension. But 555 00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:04,640 Speaker 1: back then I had none. We just used to eat 556 00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:08,240 Speaker 1: cinnamon sticky buns. And now all we do is complain. 557 00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:11,200 Speaker 1: But it's okay because it's not the same. We dwell 558 00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:13,560 Speaker 1: back in the rain, now we're here in the sun 559 00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:34,839 Speaker 1: because together we make mon mound money. All right, let's 560 00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:39,640 Speaker 1: end with that. Here's the thing I wish I could 561 00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:43,840 Speaker 1: do that. That's one thing that I wish we figured 562 00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:50,880 Speaker 1: something I had of yours. One day. One day I 563 00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:54,560 Speaker 1: will I will attempt my freeze. It's going to happen. 564 00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:59,759 Speaker 1: It's going it's so bad. Well let's have it. Okay. 565 00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:03,120 Speaker 1: I love you. Oh if you like the show, please 566 00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:05,480 Speaker 1: tell someone about it. You can share it. Please subscribe. 567 00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:08,560 Speaker 1: Oh yeah yeah, podcast Spotify wherever you get your podcasts. 568 00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:12,840 Speaker 1: Is that something that everybody does. We love talking to people. 569 00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:18,040 Speaker 1: We love talking to you who listening out there? And uh, 570 00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:22,520 Speaker 1: if you like it's not desperate in the beginning, no, no, no, no, 571 00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:25,520 Speaker 1: you can I say something right now. I want this 572 00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:28,520 Speaker 1: to be the thing with you, and you and I said, 573 00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:30,120 Speaker 1: this is what it should be, right now, like just 574 00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:32,600 Speaker 1: put this out yeah, just put it out there. And 575 00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:34,480 Speaker 1: we're like, feel desperate, and you're saying, no, no, this 576 00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:36,399 Speaker 1: is what people do. We'll do it in the beginning. 577 00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:40,279 Speaker 1: What do you do in the credits? Yeah, well this 578 00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:43,080 Speaker 1: should be no, but put yourself in there, put yourself 579 00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:46,200 Speaker 1: in the shoes, put yourself in the shoes of or 580 00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:48,560 Speaker 1: in the seat of the person listening in the car. 581 00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:52,359 Speaker 1: And we're talking to them right now, we are right 582 00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:54,960 Speaker 1: and and like we're right, turn right, right, right, right, 583 00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:58,680 Speaker 1: go right. No, no, don't turn right, go straight, you're 584 00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:05,440 Speaker 1: going straight on Bentley. But what we would say to 585 00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:08,000 Speaker 1: them is we would say that we love talking to you. Yes, 586 00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:11,400 Speaker 1: we love talking. We love sharing our story and sharing 587 00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:13,520 Speaker 1: the stories of our friends and the people that we 588 00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:15,720 Speaker 1: have on the show. And if you like this episode, 589 00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:19,719 Speaker 1: there's many more. You can subscribe, subscribe or you can 590 00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:22,480 Speaker 1: full Spotify. I don't know, I don't know where we are, 591 00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:25,680 Speaker 1: but it's it's everywhere. I feel like, it's like when 592 00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:29,439 Speaker 1: you have a book, it's like in bookstores everywhere. Yeah, 593 00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:32,880 Speaker 1: so that's kind of what this is. We're in podcast areas, everywhere, 594 00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:39,880 Speaker 1: and and and that. We hope that they will enjoy 595 00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:43,799 Speaker 1: all of our episodes. We really like get into where 596 00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:46,960 Speaker 1: people grew up. Get likes on these things, do you? Yeah, 597 00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:50,040 Speaker 1: you get reviews, they rate us. We should maybe put 598 00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:52,319 Speaker 1: a like button on our podcast. That's what we're doing. 599 00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:54,680 Speaker 1: We're gonna have a like button on our podcast and 600 00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:59,239 Speaker 1: put like every person that you've like that. Why not? Sim, 601 00:37:59,840 --> 00:38:04,000 Speaker 1: you can't foot like okay, don't push like on the Pope. 602 00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:05,440 Speaker 1: I don't know if that would be good for you. 603 00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:08,080 Speaker 1: Right now, I get a dislike. Yeah, I think we 604 00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:13,759 Speaker 1: should just leave it at just all right. You'll find us. Yes, 605 00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:16,960 Speaker 1: we will be dropping every episode from here on out 606 00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:21,160 Speaker 1: on Wednesdays. This Wednesday, we have the lovely Chelsea and 607 00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:24,600 Speaker 1: Shashana Handler. We had a blast interviewing them. Really fun, 608 00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:27,839 Speaker 1: really funny, but also very very emotional. Yeah we got 609 00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:31,000 Speaker 1: we had some good emotional moment. We're like Barbara Walters, 610 00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:36,960 Speaker 1: all right, that was fun. That was fun. Love you. Sibling. 611 00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:40,040 Speaker 1: Revelry is executive Bruce By, Kate Hudson, Olira Hudson, and 612 00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:44,880 Speaker 1: Sim Sarner. Supervising producer is Alison Presnik. Editor is Josh Wendish. 613 00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:48,719 Speaker 1: Music by Mark Hudson aka Uncle Mark.