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Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.

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Speaker 2: Cowboys.

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Speaker 1: This is Mick Shots, streaming live on Dallascowboys dot Com

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Speaker 1: and the official Dallas Cowboys Act. Now Here are Bill Jones,

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Speaker 1: Hekma Harrison, Everson Wolves, and Mickey Spagnola.

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Speaker 3: It's a new day, it's a new week, it's a

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Speaker 3: new podcast. And here we are inside the SWBC podcast

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Speaker 3: studio at the Star in Frisco. This is the New

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Speaker 3: Look mix Shots with the newcomer. Oh, because you're now

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Speaker 3: back in.

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Speaker 4: Crisco, I guess I am.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Hecma Harrison has already put in his three

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Speaker 3: miles today.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, they weren't talking about me, about the new Look.

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Speaker 5: They were talking about you Ben.

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Speaker 6: You see that look. He looked heavy.

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Speaker 3: Welcome back. But we've been settled to him for a

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Speaker 3: long time here.

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Speaker 2: Somebody probably for the first and we didn't really celebrate

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Speaker 2: him coming onto the team.

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Speaker 6: I think probably because I missed that Monday.

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Speaker 5: All that's right, you didn't get Yeah, I don't ever

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Speaker 5: miss an opportunity to celebrate met Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Ever, since this is your opportunity welcome you know.

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Speaker 6: He just kind of stepped in seamlessly. I just didn't

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Speaker 6: have to. Uh huh.

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Speaker 4: It's gonna be fun throughout the season.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it's gonna be more.

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Speaker 3: Fun than more fun than Saturday night at at and

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Speaker 7: Right, you didn't have fun?

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Speaker 6: No, it was.

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Speaker 4: It was a blast.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it was a blast. It was a blast. And

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Speaker 6: I only heard because I've had a busy weekend. Oh

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Speaker 6: come on, you mean I wasn't here for he was

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Speaker 6: what if you do every day?

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Speaker 2: Come, let's fill them in. Don't ask me, Let's fill

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Speaker 2: them in on what happened.

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Speaker 3: Let's let's fill everybody in on what's happening this week

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Speaker 3: because we're hitting the ground running this week.

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Speaker 4: Okay, team obviously back.

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Speaker 3: Here and you got a Brian Schottenheimer press conference at

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Speaker 3: one o'clock, right one o'clock today, Rocker.

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Speaker 7: Room at eleven or twelve.

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Speaker 4: Don't they don't They don't care about locker, don't care.

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Speaker 3: They can't go in the locker, just trying to get

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Speaker 3: but they can hear the Brian shot at iber press

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Speaker 3: conference at one o'clock. We've got two open practices as

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Speaker 3: training camp continues inside the beautiful Ford Center at the

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Speaker 3: Star in Frisco. Tomorrow night six o'clock and Wednesday night

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Speaker 3: at six o'clock one that will be televised, by the way,

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Speaker 3: and we've got another preseason game on Friday night, seven

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Speaker 3: o'clock kickoff.

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Speaker 4: At AT and T Stadium against the Atlanta Falcons.

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Speaker 8: I didn't realize Wednesday night was going to be televised

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Speaker 8: till last night at eleven o'clock.

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Speaker 4: Are you a part of the telecast?

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Speaker 7: Oh that's right, I am.

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Speaker 3: So ever, since you have an opportunity free of charge

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Speaker 3: to go inside Ford Center and watch this team in person, Well.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, but I'll be distracted. Man.

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Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure my daughter is going to be with me.

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Speaker 2: I'll probably be bringing my niece, my nephew. Oh so

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Speaker 2: you are coming, yes, but just to you know, enjoy.

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Speaker 7: You know you're not going to watch.

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Speaker 2: You gotta take notes, man, I got two little nephews

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Speaker 6: It's no telling. Man, we'll see. I have a life, man,

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Speaker 6: I have a full life. I'm sorry.

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Speaker 7: Do you have special seats?

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Speaker 6: I don't know.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, first come first be there.

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Speaker 6: I'm going to be there with people in toel All.

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Speaker 4: Right, right, good, good, right?

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Speaker 3: So how about we go around the horn? Just kick

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Speaker 7: I'll let these guys go first. You can't since I

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Speaker 6: You can't let me go first.

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Speaker 4: We go ahead.

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Speaker 6: I don't know.

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Speaker 7: I don't want to have to correct see the.

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Speaker 2: Game, That's what I'm trying to tell you. I have

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Speaker 6: Go for it.

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Speaker 7: So heck, I guess you're well, I'm trying.

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Speaker 5: To read your notes, so I'm trying to read your

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Speaker 6: Newcomer.

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Speaker 5: But you know, look, watching the game, I think you

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Speaker 5: if you don't have a digs, if Bland is going

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Speaker 5: it was inconsistent at best. I think when you look

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Speaker 5: that's where the biggest I guess gray area is because

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Speaker 5: you didn't see the guys take the mantle. And as

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Speaker 5: far as the offensive line run blocking, just you know, look,

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Speaker 6: Being pushed around.

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Speaker 5: We talked about that, but then there was something. There

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Speaker 5: leave a whole lot of meat on the bone for you, Mickey.

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Speaker 5: This is something that you don't do, but I'm gonna

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Speaker 5: biggest question that I have has got to be.

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Speaker 4: Not what you just said.

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Speaker 5: No, it's the backup quarterback. It's the quarterback position, because

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Speaker 5: that was where when I asked, I'm watching the game,

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Speaker 5: certain throws, there's certain things that you got to be

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Speaker 5: I just didn't see it. And I don't want to

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Speaker 5: pile on the guy for what everybody else has been

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Speaker 5: saying about him, but I think when you came away

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Speaker 5: to be desired at the position, and you know they

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Speaker 7: Glad to see you guys came around.

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Speaker 6: I'm not getting grace right now, No, I'm.

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Speaker 7: Just saying we talked about it last week.

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Speaker 8: You guys kind of disputed it, and I told you

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Speaker 7: Two yards, yes, Joe Milton.

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Speaker 8: He had three passes for one hundred and two yards,

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Speaker 8: I didn't see any improvement from week to week.

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Speaker 7: And they should be concerned.

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Speaker 6: Now.

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Speaker 8: If they're not concerned, then they're thinking, well, if that

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Speaker 8: you got to have somebody see, that's why it exkews everything.

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Speaker 8: When the quarterback doesn't play well, then you look at

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Speaker 7: They didn't run the ball well.

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Speaker 8: But it all gets clouded over because the quarterback didn't

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Speaker 8: And I just think they got to have eyes wide

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Speaker 7: On August twenty sixth.

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Speaker 5: Are you in the place, Mickey with him where you're

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Speaker 5: saying this is a really a developmental player. Yes, this

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Speaker 6: Right now it doesn't.

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Speaker 5: Not only does he's not look like he belongs, it's

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Speaker 5: just certain things like the easy routine things, and you

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Speaker 7: He's Trey lance at this point.

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Speaker 3: Well, and I thought I thought when they traded for

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Speaker 3: to win the number two without you know, you got

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Speaker 3: Will Greer here, but without bringing in even a fourth

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Speaker 3: Latin not necessarily his fault. I mean, he had an

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: He hasn't gotten very many snaps in practice, and so

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Speaker 3: I don't rush to judgment on what I see from

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Speaker 2: The more those are, the more those are, the more

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Speaker 6: He hasn't been coached to me, he hasn't been coached

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Speaker 2: He's been here all training camp, and all I've seen

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Speaker 6: I know where I need to throw the ball.

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Speaker 2: I'm a dB and I know that he's a quarterback

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Speaker 6: That's where the disappointment.

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Speaker 4: Carvers and I just gave you.

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Speaker 6: This is when he's in the end zone and oh damn.

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Speaker 4: You see you see Jonathan Mingo is the wide receiver

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Speaker 5: I did, okay, And I think you pointed out, you know,

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Speaker 7: The offensive lineman.

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Speaker 8: You know, they each got their guy right and opened

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Speaker 4: I guess there's a possible.

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Speaker 3: And the other thing on Mingo's slant, the safety I

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Speaker 4: He had his back turned.

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Speaker 3: He he was pressing and he he had his back

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Speaker 3: Now is possibility that Milton's vision was blocked by alignment

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Speaker 7: Well, you know what.

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Speaker 8: It sort of reminds me or maybe this is what

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Speaker 8: it should be. Tony Romo needed three or four years

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Speaker 6: Huh.

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Speaker 8: I wasn't giving you a wooden nickel for Tony Romo

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Speaker 7: His foot were.

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Speaker 6: He knew a little bad, he knew where to go.

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Speaker 8: But he Look, if if Quincy Carter doesn't get cut

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Speaker 8: the criticism is not so much on Milton as if

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Speaker 7: Going to depend on him to fill that spot. You're

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Speaker 6: Have gone somewhere with that with that little slant.

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Speaker 2: Well, he has gone someone because the safety's back is

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Speaker 5: That's a and that's his hot read and you could

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Speaker 6: He just didn't he didn't deliver, which.

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Speaker 7: So we'll see where that turns out.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, that's uh, you know, like not ideal. But he

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Speaker 5: I mean, Mingo is in the he's it's a crowded

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Speaker 6: It's standing. There's a there's a lot of stock being

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Speaker 8: Oh yeah, And I think the biggest improvement is he

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Speaker 8: have you? No, Well there's a reason for them.

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Speaker 5: Well, I haven't seen any of the other guys I

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Speaker 2: So see that's what I was looking forward to watching.

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Speaker 5: there at the bottom. Let me see the one at

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Speaker 5: the bottle wanted.

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Speaker 4: These are my flip cards for the game.

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Speaker 6: Hendrick's amazing bill. All right, so we look at the breakfast.

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Speaker 7: Menu on the back.

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Speaker 3: I've got the stats from the game. I've got all

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Speaker 3: the wide receiver stats. If you'd like to, let's do that.

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Speaker 3: Then I don't really want to read off. There's not that.

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Speaker 4: There's nothing to write home about with the wide receivers stats.

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Speaker 4: How much of that is the quarterback?

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Speaker 3: How much of that is the wide receivers? All right,

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Speaker 3: you were, you hit on it a second ago. Let's

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Speaker 3: sit on it now. Ever s t us up on

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Speaker 3: these wide receivers.

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Speaker 2: Well, my my thing is I want once again, I

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Speaker 2: want to see. Of course, there's not going to be

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Speaker 2: a team uh project here we're looking at right now

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Speaker 2: seeing if they have individuals out there.

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Speaker 6: That can show some promise.

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Speaker 2: We know who our starters are going to be pretty

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Speaker 2: much in regards to wide receivers. But when you're talking

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Speaker 2: about guys that are going to be developed. I want

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Speaker 2: to know who's coming out there, who's the surprise, who's

481
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Speaker 2: besides turping, because I know that's your boy. I'm just

482
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Speaker 2: talking about I was going to be talking about Miko.

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Speaker 6: Was that Mingo? Mingo? Mingo's down? Anyone else Tobert?

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Speaker 2: Has Toba come up and showed us anything to where

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Speaker 2: you can say, you know what, this guy has improved.

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Speaker 6: He's gotten a lot better. He's going to get a

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Speaker 6: lot more touches.

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Speaker 3: Jalen Tolbert in the first game against the Rams had

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Speaker 3: two targets, one reception for minus one yard, and against

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Speaker 3: the Ravens, he had one target, one reception two yards.

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Speaker 2: Let me be more clear, should refrain question, Well, I

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Speaker 2: was talking about in practice.

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Speaker 8: It's been he has been good in practice, not great.

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Speaker 8: He's not a starter, right, but as practice last year

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Speaker 8: than this year or.

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Speaker 6: Sound the same, because that's what he was last year.

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Speaker 3: I really liked him more at camp last year. Yes,

498
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Speaker 3: but he was getting so many opportunities because CD wasn't there.

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Speaker 8: And exactly now so sometimes it's opportunities too. But again,

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Speaker 8: I think the third receiver is a rotation of Turpin.

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Speaker 8: Tolbert and Mingo providing that that knee is not going

502
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Speaker 8: to derail him, and it's like, what are you trying

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Speaker 8: to accomplish with the third receiver on this play or

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Speaker 8: this situation? And I think those three guys will fit

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Speaker 8: in there.

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Speaker 4: And let me throw this out there on Mingo.

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Speaker 3: But this enters into the equation here, especially when you

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Speaker 3: consider they've got him for two years. He's not in

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Speaker 3: his contract year and I gave up something for him

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Speaker 3: last year, and all right, if it is a PCL

511
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Speaker 3: injury and we're let's say we're talking.

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Speaker 4: Four to six weeks or something like that.

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Speaker 3: Okay, a week from tomorrow is cut down day in

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Speaker 3: the NFL, So they've got to make a decision where

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Speaker 3: if he's if he is going to go on in

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Speaker 3: season IR, he has to be on the fifty three

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Speaker 3: man roster next Tuesday.

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Speaker 4: You can't put him.

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Speaker 3: If you put him on IR before Tuesday, he's out

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Speaker 3: for the year. Okay, So he's got to be on

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Speaker 3: that fifty three. That affects the whole equation on the

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Speaker 3: wide receivers and which ones you're keeping and which ones

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Speaker 3: you're risking trying to get them back. Okay, Because Mingo

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Speaker 3: let's say Okay, he's on the fifty three and the

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Speaker 3: plane is the next day, you're going to put him

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Speaker 3: on injured reserve where he's got to sit out the

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Speaker 3: first four weeks of the season at least. Then all right,

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Speaker 3: there's one wide receiver that's staying up a roster spot

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Speaker 3: and you don't have him the first month of the

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Speaker 3: season at least.

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Speaker 5: Now, that's the difficulty about slimming that down in that

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Speaker 5: whole position room, and you bring into George Pickens. That

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Speaker 5: kind of makes it difficult for a guy like jaylen

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Speaker 5: Tober that last year had that opportunity to be the

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Speaker 5: wide receiver to I'm looking at guys like Jalen Cropper

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Speaker 5: on on Saturday, had some opportunities dropped the probably one

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Speaker 5: of the balls that we you get on the Joe Milton,

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Speaker 5: but he makes a pass to Cropper that he just

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Speaker 5: alligated arms, you know, you know, bad drop.

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Speaker 3: But that's when the safety was there and he was.

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Speaker 5: He was going, he was go sacrifice, but he thought

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Speaker 5: better of it.

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Speaker 2: So I don't think he has that luxury man to

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Speaker 2: think better of it.

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Speaker 6: I didn't either, but you know, he made a business

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Speaker 6: and c.

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Speaker 4: He got proper he was fleshing Cropper last year.

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Speaker 8: Would have been all ox Nart and then when the

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Speaker 8: games started, it's like, where'd that guy go?

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Speaker 7: And it's kind of seeing the same thing.

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Speaker 8: I think of all the those young guys, maybe Fillinoy

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Speaker 8: has taken a step up. He's showing that he was

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Speaker 8: here last year and in practice, I think he repeatedly

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Speaker 8: showed that he can do something. Now in the game

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Speaker 8: he had three targets, two catches, twenty seven yards. But

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Speaker 8: I think that he ahead of maybe Jalen Brooks, has

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Speaker 8: taken that next step.

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Speaker 7: Tolbert is still to me, Tolbert.

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Speaker 6: What does that mean?

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Speaker 8: He's I think he's a third receiver. I'm not saying

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Speaker 8: the third receiver has to go in the slot. He's

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Speaker 8: kind of a backup to Now think about this, Okay,

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Speaker 8: say you don't have Mingo. I don't know, a couple

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Speaker 8: of weeks, right, one of the top two guys gets hurt.

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Speaker 7: Who's stepping in?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, that's take glass off a button.

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Speaker 8: For and that's you know, and there's you know, that's

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Speaker 8: maybe where Tobert fits in from an experience standpoint, you know,

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Speaker 8: But Illinois is showing something and I know he was

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Speaker 8: only a what sixth round draft choice?

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Speaker 4: I believe only Joe Milton was a six round draft pick.

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Speaker 6: That's what I said about undrafted. You know.

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Speaker 2: All of that, man, But I think I'm just trying

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Speaker 2: to figure out because with Tobert, I want more.

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Speaker 6: I want so much more.

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Speaker 5: Is that wrong to even ask that? It's like when

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Speaker 5: you when you do that, it's like people like he

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Speaker 5: is what he is. He's just like, I want more

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Speaker 5: that he said.

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Speaker 2: He said, Toba is Toba, and I'm like, that's why

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Speaker 2: I want to know what that means, because to me,

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Speaker 2: it means barely a number three.

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Speaker 6: It means barely a number three.

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Speaker 2: And you're not you're not exhibiting that he has shown

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Speaker 2: anything more this year than he showed last year.

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Speaker 7: But he led the team in touchdowns last year. I know,

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Speaker 7: and I know, but I know it was only seven.

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Speaker 12: Ye by the way, that's what happens, even when you

589
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Speaker 12: have a good backup quarterback right Cooper rushed ended up

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Speaker 12: playing starting.

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Speaker 2: I just wish, for some reason, I just wish Toba

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Speaker 2: was taller. I would he was bigger. I wish he

593
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Speaker 2: was mean that. I wish so many things about him

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Speaker 2: because you can see something, but you also, I am

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Speaker 2: begging to see something.

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Speaker 6: That may not have been there at all and may

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Speaker 6: not ever be there.

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Speaker 7: Well, let's let's see, when.

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Speaker 6: Let's see, let's see, let's see.

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Speaker 5: We're putting all that, We're putting all of our eggs

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Speaker 5: in the Cavante turpin basket. And we can't because, up

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Speaker 5: to me, that's what he was. He was the gadget guy.

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Speaker 5: He was the you know, the the double reverse, you know,

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Speaker 5: any of those things. But man, if he can be

605
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Speaker 5: that guy, that proverbial take the top off guy.

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Speaker 8: Not just take the top off. I'm telling you, he's

607
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Speaker 8: running routes. He's not just running. I'm listening to I'm

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Speaker 8: catching the ball over the middle twenty yards down the field, fifteen.

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Speaker 6: I am over here with a tambourine.

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Speaker 5: Right now, do you understand that I want to see

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Speaker 5: what you're saying.

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Speaker 6: I don't want him to just be a gadget guy.

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Speaker 8: Well, we saw it. We saw it in training camp

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Speaker 8: and we saw it. Uh, he hasn't got a chance

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Speaker 8: to play, right What does that tell you?

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Speaker 6: But wait wait until the four I tell you they

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Speaker 6: can take that.

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Speaker 2: I tell you what, this third preseason game, it better

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Speaker 2: be amazing. I mean because we got to come out

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Speaker 2: and we have to Hey.

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Speaker 8: At least we have to exhibit score thirteen points. How

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Speaker 8: many points did Buffalo score last night?

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Speaker 6: I get that.

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Speaker 3: I get that, by the way, But here's the thing

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Speaker 3: about seven of those points were on a pick six.

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Speaker 7: Yes, I know, but they had zero.

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Speaker 2: Hey, Buffalo just came from high well last night. I'm

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Speaker 2: hoping that, you know what I'm saying, the comparison there.

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Speaker 2: I hope that we could be that that that you know,

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Speaker 2: have that kind of love jury.

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Speaker 7: But the head of coach was mad this the last night.

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Speaker 6: I'm hoping should be zero. We got one more preseason game.

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Speaker 8: Well, don't think they're gonna throw a bunch of starters

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Speaker 8: out there at this point.

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Speaker 6: But they're all going to put some out there, right.

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 8: I was hoping they played all five offensive lineman.

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Speaker 3: One starter will play on defense defensive tackle man.

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Speaker 5: Oh absolutely, Oh absolutely he should. You should get a

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Speaker 5: lot of reps, A ton of reps.

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Speaker 4: He got got reps the second half on.

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Speaker 6: How do we need to come back and talk about that?

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Speaker 3: clear it up. It doesn't really affect things as far

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Speaker 3: as Jonathan Mingo is concerned. Because of the number of

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Speaker 3: players that the Cowboys have on either injured reserve or

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Speaker 3: NFI right now the cutdown day a week from tomorrow,

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Speaker 3: teams now can designate two players that can return. Can

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Speaker 3: you can play and have them on IR, but they

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Speaker 3: How many guys are you got Trayvon Diggs who would

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Speaker 3: apply on that?

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Speaker 6: Right now?

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Speaker 4: You've got savone rebel.

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Speaker 14: I'm going to give you the whole lit Josh Butler

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Speaker 14: available and so you don't forget Kayln Carson, Kayln Carson

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Speaker 14: right now that but those guys Kayln Carson is on

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Speaker 14: the active roster right I'm talking about the ones that

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Speaker 14: are on either IR or n FI. Two of those

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Speaker 14: players who does not do not appear to be ready

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Speaker 14: to go by Philadelphia or when the cutdown day comes,

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Speaker 14: two of those guys can be designated as a return guys.

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Speaker 4: So they got it.

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Speaker 3: They're gonna have to make a decision all these injured players,

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Speaker 3: someone either is going to be occupying a spot, taking

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Speaker 3: up a roster spot.

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Speaker 7: Or for twenty four hours.

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Speaker 4: For twenty four hours.

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Speaker 6: Yeah right, all right, you're Christopher.

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Speaker 3: So we're talking defense now, right, yes, okay, so we

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Speaker 3: got nine minutes to talk defensive tackle and cornerback.

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Speaker 7: For where would you like to start cornerback?

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Speaker 4: Okay, here's my list.

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Speaker 8: These four guys would be on the fifty three man

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Speaker 8: roster right digs Butler, Revel, and Carson. None of those

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Speaker 8: guys practiced last week. I don't know if they practiced

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Speaker 8: this week. So at cornerback, when you're looking at the

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Speaker 8: depth and you saw it out there Booth Pride, MCCUAMU,

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Speaker 8: Childress Hall, these guys might not even made the team

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Speaker 8: and they may have to start on September fourth.

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Speaker 7: Two of them.

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Speaker 8: So basically you've got Duran Bland, Kyir Elam and he

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Speaker 8: hasn't played so that tells you what they think of him, rightayed,

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Speaker 8: Oh that's right, I'm started on Saturday. They did, but

734
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Speaker 8: he didn't play that there's twenty snaps or something twenty

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Speaker 8: maybe the.

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Speaker 7: Next couple of series, So that to me is a concern.

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Speaker 8: He played seventeen snaps.

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Speaker 6: Let me just say that probably too serious.

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Speaker 5: I feel like of those names that you just you

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Speaker 5: just said, number, there's only one player that I like

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Speaker 5: to me that's serviceable from seeing him in preseason.

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Speaker 7: The second group.

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Speaker 5: The second group, Yes, the second group, and that's number

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Speaker 5: forty eight children. Yes, to me, he embodies like everything

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Speaker 5: that coach Schottenheimer has come to the podium to talk

746
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Speaker 5: about and the preseason forty eight is the only guy

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Speaker 5: that I'm like, well, that's what he's talking about right there.

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Speaker 4: As far as Kentucky, yes, Kentucky started.

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Speaker 5: As far as as far as physicality, his ability to

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Speaker 5: be versatile, the way that they use him, and so,

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Speaker 5: I mean playing the game he was he was.

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Speaker 4: Good because I'm nice play in the end zone on the.

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Speaker 5: Second second game. I mean he's still assistently. Yeah, he's

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Speaker 5: consistently doing this, doing those things. Support guy.

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Speaker 8: So and he started in the slot in the game. Yep,

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Speaker 8: he did got twenty nine snaps. So if he can

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Speaker 8: do that, then Bland can just not have to do

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Speaker 8: two things. He can just be outside Elam and then children.

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Speaker 3: So would you say that with the way things are

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Speaker 3: right now without any additions at the cornerback position, that

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Speaker 3: two weeks from Thursday when they go to Philadelphia, the

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Speaker 3: three corners are Bland, Elam and Childress in the slot?

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Speaker 4: Or is it keeps all.

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Speaker 7: As we speak now?

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Speaker 8: Because one of I think both of the guys that

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Speaker 8: were out there rehabbing when you you walked in, it

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Speaker 8: was Diggs and I believe it was Butler. Okay, and

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Speaker 8: Butler doesn't have a heck of a lot of experience.

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Speaker 8: Revel hasn't played in the game yet. My guess with

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Speaker 8: him is, uh, he would be in one of those

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Speaker 8: two guys that you mentioned because he's on non football

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Speaker 8: injury so they could put him on keep him on

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Speaker 8: for at least for four weeks, Right, Carson, he just

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Speaker 8: can't stay healthy. You know, you may have to carry

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Speaker 8: him and be one of the inactives. And then Diggs

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Speaker 8: is the big question mark. Can he get out there

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Speaker 8: in time?

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Speaker 6: But what's the what's the word from from the capital.

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Speaker 8: From what I hear conditioning condition that's not ready to play, man,

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Speaker 8: you can't be that out of shape.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that out of shape to where if if it

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Speaker 2: comes time to play, we've got we've got what two weeks.

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Speaker 8: Two weeks maybe two weeks week and two weeks. He

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Speaker 8: hasn't had pads on since December. Maybe he got hurt

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Speaker 8: and they took him out, right, he ended up.

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Speaker 6: Here's my question going on. The injury is.

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Speaker 7: Getting there, let's put it.

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Speaker 6: Okay, So yeah, so he's like, well.

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Speaker 7: How about eighty five?

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Speaker 8: And and the thing that keeps coming back is he

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Speaker 8: didn't train here, right, They've only had him what a month?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, but wherever he was he was still Yeah.

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Speaker 8: But you know how guys do when they're let somebody

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Speaker 8: else is training them. If I'm paid train me, I

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Speaker 8: call you on Monday and say, you know, I don't

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Speaker 8: feel like I be here, And the guy goes, well, okay,

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Speaker 8: you're the boss.

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Speaker 7: You over here, call.

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Speaker 8: Britt Brown and tell them you're not coming in today

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Speaker 8: because you don't feel like it.

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Speaker 5: I have a hard time believing that when it comes

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Speaker 5: down to a professional Athlet's what I'm talking and I

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Speaker 5: know the expectation, and I know there's a lot of

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Speaker 5: things clouded around Treyvon Diggs that are not good as

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Speaker 5: far as decision making is concern. But I think that

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Speaker 5: guy loves football, yes, you know, And I don't think.

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Speaker 6: He wants to get better. And I just don't think

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Speaker 6: he would take a short cut.

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Speaker 5: Maybe he wasn't in the building cost him half a

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Speaker 5: million dollars, a quarter million, whatever it was more than

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Speaker 5: I but I hope.

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Speaker 7: So whatever it was, otherwise, I'm going talk to Niki, But.

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Speaker 6: Don't you talk to her about that.

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Speaker 5: But I do know that if he to say is conditioning,

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Speaker 5: it's like it's like a slap in the face to

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Speaker 5: a guy that got a contract.

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Speaker 6: You know. That's been one of the.

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Speaker 5: Guys around here that Everson Wallas has sat down one

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Speaker 5: on one to talk about him setting records or doing

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Speaker 5: things like that.

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Speaker 2: Why wouldn't he want to push yourself to be there?

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Speaker 2: And that's it's got to be more than conditioning. That's

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Speaker 2: why I'm asking, let's go to the inos know something.

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Speaker 2: If they're not telling us.

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Speaker 8: I just told you, I just told you, right, I'm

826
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Speaker 8: hoping it's more. And then again, you got to be

827
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Speaker 8: ready to play football. You got to put pads on.

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Speaker 8: I don't think the week before the game with two practices,

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Speaker 8: one in pads and you go, okay, go go play.

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Speaker 5: Then now I want to talk to you about Michael

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Speaker 5: Now never mind, we're gonna talk about the same thing.

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Speaker 6: Okay, same thing. Right.

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Speaker 8: You think he's out there busting his butt.

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Speaker 7: You know he's doing so.

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Speaker 2: Well that if that compareson if that comparing Michael Parsons

836
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Speaker 2: to say LT I played in nineteen ninety lt didn't

837
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Speaker 2: come to training camp. First time he got on the

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Speaker 2: field was against Philadelphia.

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Speaker 7: And he probably had five sacks.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, only three? Only three?

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Speaker 2: Oh and he helped me get my first interception at

842
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Speaker 2: So you know, I could see Parsons as we're gonna

843
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Speaker 2: kind of go off the word, I can see Parsons

844
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Speaker 2: still being ready without being in uniform.

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Speaker 6: And to me, I mean, Diggs is a damn play.

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Speaker 2: Put it this way, if I'm I believe myself, if

847
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Speaker 2: I've been working out all this time trying to get

848
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Speaker 2: my knee right, that's part of also conditioning. Because I'm

849
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Speaker 2: still working trying to get my knee right, that's conditioning.

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Speaker 2: If you put me in pass first game. I'm going

851
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Speaker 2: out there trying the ball man.

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Speaker 7: Well, sure you will. What if you get hurt?

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Speaker 6: I wouldn't be thinking about that, But what if?

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Speaker 8: What is from my standpoint, if I'm taking care of

855
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Speaker 8: the salary cap, I send you out there and the

856
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Speaker 8: first game you're back with me because you got hurt.

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Speaker 6: I would not look forward to that.

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Speaker 8: Well, no, but that that's what the team has to think.

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Speaker 8: It's like, this isn't Michael Irvin in ninety two when

860
00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:42,719
Speaker 8: he signed on Thursday and played Monday night football. It's

861
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Speaker 8: a wide receiver. This is somebody that's going to be

862
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Speaker 8: in the muck in the middle. You can what if

863
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Speaker 8: he gets hurt because he's not ready to play football.

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Speaker 8: I'm not saying total conditioning, but you got to least

865
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Speaker 8: acclimate to put pads. And we're talking about Mikah right, Yes, okay,

866
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Speaker 8: so he's working out out in the morning. I've seen

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Speaker 8: it all right, And and but then there was this

868
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Speaker 8: back thing that came up, and I, well, I said,

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Speaker 8: he needs a dollar.

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Speaker 6: Bill. You want to talk about the defensive tackle?

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Speaker 4: Defense tackle?

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Speaker 6: You tell me you saw you please?

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Speaker 3: Well, I mean just the fact that Mozi still playing

874
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Speaker 3: in the second half tells you that they've got some

875
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Speaker 3: some questions about.

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Speaker 4: Buy or that he needs the work, or they're waiting

877
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Speaker 4: for him to make place.

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Speaker 6: He needs that.

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Speaker 3: And so but I mean, we can look at all

880
00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:36,839
Speaker 3: these preseason games and say, okay, these are.

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Speaker 4: Backups out there.

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Speaker 3: Well at that one defensive tackle position, that's a projected

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Speaker 3: starter that's playing, and Jay Toya as well, the rookie

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00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:49,160
Speaker 3: who's supposed to be in the rotation there, Well, those

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00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:51,839
Speaker 3: are projected starters that are playing in the second half

886
00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:55,160
Speaker 3: of these games and not Toya's not projected starter, but

887
00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:56,760
Speaker 3: he's a projected.

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00:44:56,360 --> 00:44:58,960
Speaker 7: Rotation I might not be a starter.

889
00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:02,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, but Mazzie started seventeen games last I know, and

890
00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:05,360
Speaker 3: so that's a position of concern.

891
00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:07,759
Speaker 6: So how did he play in this last game?

892
00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:13,840
Speaker 3: Well, statistically, one assisted tackle in twenty eight snaps.

893
00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:15,520
Speaker 6: Here's one thing I know about football.

894
00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:18,959
Speaker 2: Football has a rhythm to it, and when you are

895
00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:23,000
Speaker 2: in tune with that rhythm, then you're going to First

896
00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:26,680
Speaker 2: of all, you won't get injured. You will have control

897
00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:30,880
Speaker 2: of whatever's going on, and you'll be in position wherever

898
00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:34,360
Speaker 2: the ball is. You'll be in positioned to be to

899
00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:37,440
Speaker 2: make a play in some kind of way. I haven't

900
00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:41,400
Speaker 2: seen that from Mazie. I haven't seen him look comfortable

901
00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:44,160
Speaker 2: to where I take on the block. I'm where I'm

902
00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:47,920
Speaker 2: supposed to be. I sard him, nothing's coming in here.

903
00:45:49,640 --> 00:45:53,080
Speaker 2: When you have the rhythm of the game, then you're

904
00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:56,160
Speaker 2: not going to be overwhelmed here to where. Now the

905
00:45:56,480 --> 00:45:58,680
Speaker 2: rhythm is off, you're going to be blocked this way

906
00:45:58,719 --> 00:46:01,239
Speaker 2: when you need to be overhere. Now you're trying to

907
00:46:01,239 --> 00:46:04,480
Speaker 2: get there, you're cutting this guy off. That's the rhythm

908
00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:06,160
Speaker 2: of the game that you have to be in tune with.

909
00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:08,120
Speaker 2: That's when you know you're ready. You can see it

910
00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:10,440
Speaker 2: from players. You can see it from them on the

911
00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:12,919
Speaker 2: on the field, whether it's a defensive back on when

912
00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:15,640
Speaker 2: the cut, you know, being under under the wide receiver,

913
00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:19,040
Speaker 2: being in position to force on a running play, all

914
00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:21,600
Speaker 2: of that. I just don't see any of that rhythm

915
00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:26,000
Speaker 2: coming from Naza. He looks uncomfortable, at least the last

916
00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:29,080
Speaker 2: time I saw him. He looked uncomfortable on every play.

917
00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:30,560
Speaker 8: And I know we got to go, but I'm gonna

918
00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:33,560
Speaker 8: give you one example. Bill and Isaiah had it in

919
00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:38,680
Speaker 8: the game when Sanborn made that tackle. He had the

920
00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:42,839
Speaker 8: rhythm he he was watching, watching, watching and then there

921
00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:45,520
Speaker 8: was the hole and he fired right, just like.

922
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Speaker 6: A running back, like a running back.

923
00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:49,200
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, and that's what you're talking.

924
00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:50,120
Speaker 6: That's what I'm talking about.

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00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:52,799
Speaker 7: They diagrammed it.

926
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Speaker 8: You had it on the broadcast and it was it

927
00:46:57,040 --> 00:46:59,880
Speaker 8: was so and I'm not comparing him.

928
00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:05,040
Speaker 7: It was Sean Leeish yeah, he uses.

929
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Speaker 4: But also another linebacker Refluce coached.

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00:47:09,719 --> 00:47:09,959
Speaker 6: Yeah.

931
00:47:10,120 --> 00:47:10,520
Speaker 4: Yeah.

932
00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:12,799
Speaker 8: And it was also the guys up front doing what

933
00:47:12,840 --> 00:47:15,680
Speaker 8: they're supposed to do so that there was an opening

934
00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:18,400
Speaker 8: there because everybody took on your blocks, right.

935
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Speaker 3: And I can't wait seeing what Kenneth Murray is going

936
00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:23,720
Speaker 3: to do in this defense once the regular season game starts.

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00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:26,640
Speaker 4: All right, as we close, let me just confess what

938
00:47:26,719 --> 00:47:28,680
Speaker 4: an idiot I am.

939
00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:33,280
Speaker 3: No, that's all injured reserve stuff. I need some sleep

940
00:47:33,640 --> 00:47:38,160
Speaker 3: because I mean we all know, Okay, they're on PUP

941
00:47:38,680 --> 00:47:41,440
Speaker 3: and so you have players that are on PUP at

942
00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:44,120
Speaker 3: the cutdown that they've got four weeks to come back.

943
00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:46,720
Speaker 3: So I'm sitting here saying, oh, they're on an injured reserve.

944
00:47:46,760 --> 00:47:51,680
Speaker 3: I'm an idiot. Okay, So you have the two if

945
00:47:51,719 --> 00:47:54,680
Speaker 3: you and and there and they're on pup where but

946
00:47:54,760 --> 00:47:57,319
Speaker 3: if they practice, then they have to come off, and

947
00:47:57,360 --> 00:47:59,840
Speaker 3: so they don't qualify for this, but if they're on

948
00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:03,359
Speaker 3: up from the start of training camp or they can

949
00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:07,080
Speaker 3: be or an FI, which is in the case of revel,

950
00:48:07,239 --> 00:48:10,920
Speaker 3: so those guys would not apply to the Injured Reserve

951
00:48:11,040 --> 00:48:13,920
Speaker 3: Designated to return. So you do have some slots there

952
00:48:14,040 --> 00:48:15,200
Speaker 3: for a mingo.

953
00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:19,200
Speaker 6: All forgiving Bill, Yeah, we'll be back, idiot, what a fool.

954
00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:21,360
Speaker 7: We'll do it other guys.

955
00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:24,000
Speaker 8: They have to be on the fifty three twenty four

956
00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:26,720
Speaker 8: hours before you can put them on IR return.

957
00:48:28,320 --> 00:48:31,080
Speaker 4: So how about we do it again on Wednesday at

958
00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:33,439
Speaker 4: ninety oh. We'll have a practice to talk about.

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00:48:33,719 --> 00:48:37,440
Speaker 6: Yes, very good, all right, see you then go Cowboys.

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