1 00:00:01,600 --> 00:00:06,720 Speaker 1: Ho ho, everybody. Santa Chuck here continuing on with our 2 00:00:06,800 --> 00:00:12,760 Speaker 1: twelve Days of Christmas Toys playlist. I'm gonna stop doing 3 00:00:12,760 --> 00:00:15,240 Speaker 1: that silly voice because I'm not Santa Claus. I'm just chucking. 4 00:00:15,840 --> 00:00:19,599 Speaker 1: I am here to introduce it smells good, it tastes good. 5 00:00:20,200 --> 00:00:23,160 Speaker 1: I just hope it sounds good, the salty goodness of Plato. 6 00:00:23,440 --> 00:00:24,919 Speaker 1: How Plato Works. 7 00:00:27,080 --> 00:00:36,920 Speaker 2: Welcome to Stuff you Should Know from HowStuffWorks dot com. 8 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:40,160 Speaker 3: Hey, and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh Clark, There's 9 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:43,600 Speaker 3: Charles W. Chuck Bryant, and this is the first of 10 00:00:43,680 --> 00:00:46,040 Speaker 3: two Stuff you Should Knows that were recording today. My 11 00:00:46,120 --> 00:00:49,240 Speaker 3: voice already sounds weird to me. What do you mean? Hmm? 12 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:51,879 Speaker 3: It doesn't sound a little weird, you know how like 13 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:54,120 Speaker 3: when we get toward the end of the second one, or. 14 00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:57,240 Speaker 1: It gets a little like a worn out or something. 15 00:00:57,360 --> 00:01:00,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, like it's been extruded through a Plato fun Pat. 16 00:01:01,800 --> 00:01:03,080 Speaker 1: What's all that is set up? Or do you really 17 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:04,200 Speaker 1: feel that way. 18 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:05,279 Speaker 3: That was off the cuff? Baby? 19 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:07,520 Speaker 1: Okay, No, it doesn't sound weird to me. Your voice 20 00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:08,760 Speaker 1: never sounds weird unless you're sick. 21 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:13,000 Speaker 3: Jerry Judge McCall, Yeah, Jerry brooklet tie. She sided with me. 22 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:16,520 Speaker 1: Well, Jerry wears headphones, but you and I fight the 23 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:19,440 Speaker 1: broadcasting business by being the only people that don't wear 24 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:22,119 Speaker 1: headphones or cans. I never get it. I'm like, you're 25 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:23,960 Speaker 1: two feet from me on what headphones? 26 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:25,680 Speaker 3: I know, and I don't want to hear myself anyway. 27 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:28,560 Speaker 3: I don't want to hear myself better. No, it's terrible. 28 00:01:28,600 --> 00:01:29,520 Speaker 3: It sounds like torture. 29 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:32,120 Speaker 1: That How about this for a new SYSK T shirt? 30 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:36,040 Speaker 1: No more cans? Okay, just have a little X through 31 00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:37,080 Speaker 1: some headphones. 32 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:39,120 Speaker 3: I think when you make a stuff, you should know 33 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:41,520 Speaker 3: decree from now we should have like a fairy wand 34 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:42,400 Speaker 3: sound effect. 35 00:01:42,480 --> 00:01:42,640 Speaker 1: Yeah. 36 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 3: We's like, here's this for a new T shirt. I 37 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 3: decree it be made into existence. 38 00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:50,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, we get We're gonna by the way, since I 39 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 1: mentioned it, we're gonna have some new shirts coming soon. Yeah, 40 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:57,560 Speaker 1: some good like some fan designs even yep, pretty exciting. 41 00:01:57,720 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, we and we do have some now that people 42 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:02,280 Speaker 3: can go by if you want. 43 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 1: I like those first designs we had. 44 00:02:03,960 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 3: And I well, let's just have this out on the air. 45 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:08,720 Speaker 3: It's not an argument, but let's have this discussion. Are 46 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:12,640 Speaker 3: we going to retire the original six from the contest 47 00:02:12,880 --> 00:02:15,079 Speaker 3: or should we just let them keep going in perpetuity? 48 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:17,440 Speaker 1: Oh, unless there's a reason. I think perpetuity is the 49 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:21,079 Speaker 1: way to go. But someone might like the dancing you 50 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 1: know what we call that, the skeleton would cut Yeah, 51 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:26,399 Speaker 1: fa parade of dancing skeletons. 52 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:28,720 Speaker 3: The macabre parade, that's what I would call it. Yeah, 53 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:30,440 Speaker 3: that's a good one, all six of them. We're excellent. 54 00:02:30,480 --> 00:02:32,520 Speaker 3: The baby with the fly on its forehead. 55 00:02:32,160 --> 00:02:33,200 Speaker 1: It's still my al time favorite. 56 00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:35,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's good stuff. If you don't know what we're 57 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:36,960 Speaker 3: talking about, good of stuff, youshould know dot com our 58 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:41,160 Speaker 3: venerable website, and in the top navigation there's a store 59 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:43,080 Speaker 3: button and it will take you our store and you 60 00:02:43,080 --> 00:02:45,040 Speaker 3: can see with your own very eyes what the heck 61 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:45,840 Speaker 3: we're talking about. 62 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:48,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that was off the cuff. 63 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:49,600 Speaker 3: Yeah it was. 64 00:02:49,760 --> 00:02:51,720 Speaker 1: I wasn't like, oh, we gotta plug the T shirts. 65 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:55,680 Speaker 3: No, no, no, you very rarely say things as fretfully 66 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:59,959 Speaker 3: as that. Okay, Chuck, Yes, you want to talk about Plato. 67 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:03,839 Speaker 1: Yeah, we promised to do this recently and here we are. 68 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:08,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, in my defensive was already on the list. Oh well, 69 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:11,000 Speaker 3: so it's not like you know I'm at the beck 70 00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:14,040 Speaker 3: and call of anybody's like, do Plato do this? No, 71 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:15,720 Speaker 3: it was already on the. 72 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 1: List dance monkey. 73 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 3: Right. Did you play with Plato a lot when you 74 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:20,720 Speaker 3: were a kid? 75 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:22,359 Speaker 1: Oh? I played with it. I ate it. 76 00:03:23,320 --> 00:03:27,560 Speaker 3: I don't recall eating it. I do specifically recall eating 77 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:31,920 Speaker 3: the paste that was an off brand that had a 78 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:35,800 Speaker 3: purple pirate on it. Oh, he was a pirate wearing 79 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:37,200 Speaker 3: a purple hat, and I think maybe it had an 80 00:03:37,240 --> 00:03:37,920 Speaker 3: orange parrot. 81 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:40,640 Speaker 1: Yeah. Was the paste? Did it have a on the 82 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:42,720 Speaker 1: inside of the lid. Did it have a applicator? 83 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:44,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, attached to it. Yeah. 84 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:45,120 Speaker 1: I totally ate that paste. 85 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:47,200 Speaker 3: That was the best tasting paste on the planet. 86 00:03:47,240 --> 00:03:47,440 Speaker 1: Yeah. 87 00:03:47,480 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 3: As a matter of fact, I think that paste might 88 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:52,440 Speaker 3: have been manufactured in part to eat like it's rule 89 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:55,400 Speaker 3: serve to like kids, some bad kids. 90 00:03:55,640 --> 00:03:58,040 Speaker 1: Yeah. Actually, I want to revise my statement. I taste, 91 00:03:58,080 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 1: I licked and tasted playto. I don't remember like swallowing it, 92 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:04,760 Speaker 1: but I remember, like, you know, tasting it and then 93 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 1: maybe even put it in my mouth and spitting it 94 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:10,000 Speaker 1: back out. But I don't think I didn't swallow I gotcha. 95 00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:14,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, I never I don't think I ever ate Plato 96 00:04:14,600 --> 00:04:17,680 Speaker 3: in any form or fashion, but the scent of it, 97 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:22,360 Speaker 3: it's unmistakable, unmistakable. It's so unmistakable in fact, that apparently 98 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:25,600 Speaker 3: back in two thousand and six, Plato or has bro 99 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:29,920 Speaker 3: through a year long celebration for Plato Sure, which it owns, 100 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:33,760 Speaker 3: which it bought off of Kenner. Yeah, which Kenner bought 101 00:04:33,760 --> 00:04:35,400 Speaker 3: from a dude named Joe mcvickers. 102 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 1: Actually they bought it from Tonka. Tonka bought it from Kenner. 103 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:40,320 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, how'd I forget Tonka? Yeah? 104 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:40,840 Speaker 1: Exactly. 105 00:04:42,360 --> 00:04:46,400 Speaker 3: And for this fiftieth birthday party, they had a scent 106 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:50,720 Speaker 3: a Plato perfume released that smelled just like Plato. 107 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:52,239 Speaker 1: Can you buy that? A wonder? 108 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:54,760 Speaker 3: I looked, and I think you can get it, but 109 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:56,440 Speaker 3: I don't think as easy as you could back in 110 00:04:56,440 --> 00:04:57,280 Speaker 3: two thousand and six. 111 00:04:57,400 --> 00:04:59,159 Speaker 1: Yeah, I wouldn't want to wear it. I was just curious. 112 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:02,520 Speaker 1: I think, yeah, nostalgia, Like I would like to smell it, 113 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:03,720 Speaker 1: But don't spray that stuff on me. 114 00:05:03,760 --> 00:05:06,039 Speaker 3: I don't think you're supposed to wear it? 115 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:07,760 Speaker 1: Oh was it just like it? Yeah, one of those things. 116 00:05:07,760 --> 00:05:10,960 Speaker 3: It's a mood stabilizer. Okay, you know what I mean? Yeah, 117 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:12,880 Speaker 3: spray in front of your face, and you just go, 118 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:16,080 Speaker 3: oh yeah, okay, should put this lead pipe down and 119 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:16,880 Speaker 3: rethink things. 120 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:19,360 Speaker 1: Right, Remember when I was a kid and less violent. 121 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:21,680 Speaker 3: Right, somebody give me some paste to eat. 122 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:23,080 Speaker 1: They should do that. 123 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:25,760 Speaker 3: Well back when you were a kid, did you know 124 00:05:26,200 --> 00:05:28,000 Speaker 3: much about the origin of plato? 125 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:29,000 Speaker 1: Oh no, not at all. 126 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:33,360 Speaker 3: I didn't either until today or yesterday when I started 127 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:38,040 Speaker 3: researching this plato everyone And in this article by Tracy Wilson, 128 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:43,279 Speaker 3: who hosts Stuff You Missed in History Class, she says 129 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:45,839 Speaker 3: that it's lower, but I've seen it all over the place, 130 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:49,719 Speaker 3: and from what I understand, it's the truth. 131 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:50,520 Speaker 1: I think it's the truth. 132 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:52,599 Speaker 3: There was a dude named Joe mcvickers who had a 133 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:58,080 Speaker 3: company and his company produced, from what I understand, McVicker's invention, 134 00:05:58,600 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 3: which was wallpaper clean. 135 00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:05,640 Speaker 1: Yeah. His father and uncle started it and they were 136 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:09,520 Speaker 1: called Koutol Products and it was a soap company, but 137 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:12,640 Speaker 1: their big cellar was this wall cleaner. Because when we 138 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:15,840 Speaker 1: heated our homes with coal, your house would get coal 139 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 1: soot on the walls. Yeah, which is really weird to 140 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:18,360 Speaker 1: think of. 141 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 3: Now, Yeah, but it's true. And your wallpaper can still 142 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:26,800 Speaker 3: get dirty grease from cooking things, food fights, whatever, yeah, 143 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:30,000 Speaker 3: your wallpaper can get dirty. Let's just face facts. Everybody 144 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:34,080 Speaker 3: and McVicker's company had this putty. It was kind of 145 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:39,279 Speaker 3: a pliable, gooey putty that you slapped up against the 146 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:42,080 Speaker 3: wallpaper and rolled up and down and it just took 147 00:06:42,120 --> 00:06:45,440 Speaker 3: that suit or that grease or that spaghetti sauce clean off. 148 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:49,440 Speaker 3: And it was wallpaper cleaner. Yeah, and it was doing okay, 149 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:53,440 Speaker 3: I guess great. I don't think they were like hurting necessarily. 150 00:06:54,279 --> 00:06:58,800 Speaker 3: But Joe was married to a woman or was his 151 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:02,360 Speaker 3: sister in law was a tea Yeah, it was Cincinnati. 152 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:05,240 Speaker 1: Yeah. They sold a lot of the stuff for a while, 153 00:07:05,279 --> 00:07:07,920 Speaker 1: but then natural gas came around and so they fell 154 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:13,000 Speaker 1: upon hard times. But Joe took over from Cleo. Cleo's 155 00:07:13,080 --> 00:07:16,600 Speaker 1: was his father and his sister in law, Qesu Fall 156 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:21,239 Speaker 1: of New Jersey read about kids that were making Christmas 157 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:26,280 Speaker 1: ornaments out of that stuff and she said the wapaper cleaner. Yeah, 158 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:30,600 Speaker 1: and much like kids do today with playto And she said, hey, 159 00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:33,200 Speaker 1: you know we're hurting, why don't we try and turn 160 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:36,840 Speaker 1: this stuff into a toy. And they did so, and 161 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 1: in nineteen fifty he made a non toxic version, added 162 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:43,360 Speaker 1: some almond scent, and you had your first little off 163 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:44,720 Speaker 1: white playdo Yeah. 164 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:47,440 Speaker 3: Kind of exactly what you would think of when you 165 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:52,960 Speaker 3: think of a gummy colored like dough. Yeah, off white 166 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:57,880 Speaker 3: khaki almost yeah. And mc vicar was a pretty smart 167 00:07:57,920 --> 00:08:01,800 Speaker 3: dude as far as business goes. He donated a bunch 168 00:08:01,880 --> 00:08:06,360 Speaker 3: of cans to the Cincinnati City School System. Very smart 169 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:08,800 Speaker 3: and so got these little kids hooked on Plato. It 170 00:08:08,880 --> 00:08:11,800 Speaker 3: was a huge hit, but it might have just been 171 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:15,640 Speaker 3: a regional hit. And if he hadn't approached a dude 172 00:08:15,680 --> 00:08:19,760 Speaker 3: named Captain Kangaroo. Yeah, he went to what is Captain 173 00:08:19,840 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 3: Kangaroo's name? 174 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:21,560 Speaker 1: Bob Bob Keishan. 175 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:24,080 Speaker 3: I think Bob keishen nice memory, Chuck. 176 00:08:24,360 --> 00:08:26,760 Speaker 1: I pulled that out from I don't know how many 177 00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:28,400 Speaker 1: years ago, the last time I heard that name. 178 00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:31,400 Speaker 3: He well, did you watch Captain Kangaroo? Oh? Yeah, me too, 179 00:08:31,640 --> 00:08:34,719 Speaker 3: huge fan loved Captain Kangaroo. I liked Captain Kangaroo more 180 00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:35,760 Speaker 3: than mister Rogers. 181 00:08:35,880 --> 00:08:37,719 Speaker 1: I liked him both. But yeah, I think I might 182 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:40,200 Speaker 1: have been yeah, Captain Kangaro a little bit more. It 183 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:43,240 Speaker 1: was a haircut, and I was Electric Company over Tesame 184 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 1: Street Iman. 185 00:08:44,880 --> 00:08:48,600 Speaker 3: Yeah. I liked both, but I liked Electric Electric Company more. Yeah, 186 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:50,199 Speaker 3: but I like Pinwheel most. 187 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:53,040 Speaker 1: I didn't watch that. It was for real old kids. Okay. 188 00:08:54,120 --> 00:08:58,520 Speaker 3: Anyway, Captain Kangaroo had a show and Joe McVicker somehow 189 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:02,160 Speaker 3: got in contact with Captain Kangaroo and said, hey, I 190 00:09:02,360 --> 00:09:04,320 Speaker 3: have a little deal for you. Yeah, We've got this 191 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:07,160 Speaker 3: awesome stuff. The kids in Cincinnati are crazy for it. 192 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:11,800 Speaker 3: We're calling it Plato right now. It's an off white, 193 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:15,800 Speaker 3: or it used to be, but now we have four colors, red, blue, yellow, 194 00:09:15,960 --> 00:09:19,040 Speaker 3: and white. Those are the four original colors of Plato 195 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:21,080 Speaker 3: by the way. Yeah, and he gave someone to Captain 196 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:23,400 Speaker 3: Kangaroo said I will give you two percent of gross 197 00:09:23,440 --> 00:09:26,480 Speaker 3: sales if you mentioned this on your show two times 198 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:28,560 Speaker 3: a week. Yeah, he played with it. 199 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:31,440 Speaker 1: Bob Keishan was a money grubber, that's what we all know. 200 00:09:31,840 --> 00:09:33,840 Speaker 3: He I think he believed in this product. 201 00:09:33,920 --> 00:09:36,559 Speaker 1: Yeah, and he's a smart guy, he is, And he. 202 00:09:36,520 --> 00:09:39,600 Speaker 3: Believed in it so much that he upped the number 203 00:09:39,600 --> 00:09:42,760 Speaker 3: of mentions without any additional compensation, from two times a 204 00:09:42,800 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 3: week to as many as three times a week. Yeah, 205 00:09:45,160 --> 00:09:48,559 Speaker 3: he would play with Plato on TV and it just 206 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:50,280 Speaker 3: took off like a rocket from there. 207 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:53,400 Speaker 1: That was his additional compensation that he got free. 208 00:09:53,440 --> 00:09:53,760 Speaker 3: Plato. 209 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:56,320 Speaker 1: No, he had a percentage. So oh, yeah, you're right, 210 00:09:56,280 --> 00:09:56,880 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. 211 00:09:57,040 --> 00:09:59,560 Speaker 3: You're right, But it suggests that he believed in it. 212 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:01,600 Speaker 1: That's right. He did believe in it. 213 00:10:02,120 --> 00:10:04,800 Speaker 3: And do not shatter my image of Captain Kangarhood. 214 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:06,760 Speaker 1: I'm not saying he just wanted to make more money. 215 00:10:06,800 --> 00:10:07,280 Speaker 1: Of course not. 216 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:09,440 Speaker 3: Isn't that the show that Mister Green Teens was on. 217 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:13,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, big fan of that guy too. They formed the 218 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:16,080 Speaker 1: Rainbow Crafts Company, you know. They wanted to take it 219 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:21,920 Speaker 1: out from under the Kutole Products banner and got famous 220 00:10:21,920 --> 00:10:25,520 Speaker 1: wildlife artist John Ruthven to design that first package with. 221 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:29,679 Speaker 1: Originally it was very briefly it was an Elf. Yeah, 222 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:31,679 Speaker 1: and those I think you're probably if you have a 223 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:33,520 Speaker 1: can of that, you probably it's probably in a museum 224 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:36,800 Speaker 1: or something that wasn't around long. No, And then they 225 00:10:36,840 --> 00:10:41,680 Speaker 1: went to Plato. Pete the kid with the smock in 226 00:10:41,720 --> 00:10:44,520 Speaker 1: the beret. Yeah, because all little kids wore berets and 227 00:10:44,559 --> 00:10:45,640 Speaker 1: smocks back then. 228 00:10:45,760 --> 00:10:49,000 Speaker 3: Or you wore your dad's dress shirt like backwards. 229 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:51,280 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that made a good smock too, Yeah, the 230 00:10:51,320 --> 00:10:53,240 Speaker 1: one he didn't want anymore. Yeah, or that you thought 231 00:10:53,240 --> 00:10:55,000 Speaker 1: he didn't want any more, but he really got mad 232 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:56,600 Speaker 1: at you because he got paint on it. 233 00:10:57,640 --> 00:10:59,400 Speaker 3: That's my good short sleeved dress shirt. 234 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:02,640 Speaker 1: And finally it took all the way until two thousand 235 00:11:02,679 --> 00:11:06,880 Speaker 1: and two, did the Herbal Elvis wear short sleeve dress shirts? 236 00:11:06,920 --> 00:11:10,560 Speaker 1: Oh man, really with slacks and ties? Yeah, my dad 237 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:15,560 Speaker 1: usually as a principal, wore a coat. But when you 238 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:18,600 Speaker 1: take off the jacket and you've got the short sleeve, huh, 239 00:11:18,640 --> 00:11:19,400 Speaker 1: that's something else. 240 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:22,960 Speaker 3: With a blue felt tippin, a red felt tippin, and 241 00:11:22,960 --> 00:11:26,079 Speaker 3: a green felt tippin in his pocket front pocket. 242 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:26,840 Speaker 1: That was your dad. 243 00:11:27,040 --> 00:11:28,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, he's a mechanical engineer. 244 00:11:28,920 --> 00:11:31,280 Speaker 1: Oh, so each one had a different use. 245 00:11:31,400 --> 00:11:31,959 Speaker 3: Yeah. 246 00:11:32,160 --> 00:11:32,559 Speaker 1: Interesting. 247 00:11:32,880 --> 00:11:34,920 Speaker 3: I think he also just thought they were pretty. Yeah, 248 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:36,760 Speaker 3: like they kind of they made his They made his 249 00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:37,840 Speaker 3: shirt pocket pop. 250 00:11:39,280 --> 00:11:42,000 Speaker 1: That's where you get it with your shirt pocket thing, right, 251 00:11:42,280 --> 00:11:44,480 Speaker 1: all right. It took it until two thousand and two 252 00:11:44,520 --> 00:11:46,240 Speaker 1: for that bereat to become a baseball cap. 253 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:49,440 Speaker 3: And then now he's just gone, Yeah, I. 254 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:52,000 Speaker 1: Was looking like somebody anymortalosy. 255 00:11:51,720 --> 00:11:54,800 Speaker 3: Not at all. Now it's a can with arms and 256 00:11:54,840 --> 00:11:58,320 Speaker 3: the lids kind of pulled back and in between the 257 00:11:58,440 --> 00:11:59,880 Speaker 3: rim of the can and the top of the litter 258 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:04,280 Speaker 3: couple of eyes. It looks a bit like a garbage can, 259 00:12:04,559 --> 00:12:07,160 Speaker 3: but it's obviously a Plato can, but just kind of 260 00:12:08,440 --> 00:12:10,719 Speaker 3: I don't like it. Yeah. I like Plato Pete, the 261 00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:11,560 Speaker 3: kid with the beret. 262 00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:12,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, me too. 263 00:12:12,840 --> 00:12:13,400 Speaker 3: He was great. 264 00:12:14,040 --> 00:12:15,760 Speaker 1: That's what we grew up with. It's nostalgia. 265 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:18,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, but he was around for a really long time 266 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:20,920 Speaker 3: and only just do away with him like he's nothing. 267 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:25,600 Speaker 1: That's another shirt, Bring back Plato Pete. Yeah, we'll get sued. 268 00:12:25,520 --> 00:12:28,040 Speaker 3: Yes, although I didn't get the impression that they were 269 00:12:28,040 --> 00:12:29,400 Speaker 3: too terribly litigious. 270 00:12:30,080 --> 00:12:31,880 Speaker 1: Well, plus we could tell him, you know, we sold 271 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:37,160 Speaker 1: nine t shirts. Here's your seventy three dollars. So Plato, 272 00:12:37,480 --> 00:12:40,520 Speaker 1: we all played with it. It was fun for modeling, 273 00:12:40,600 --> 00:12:45,160 Speaker 1: but it was not like you. If you were like me, 274 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:48,520 Speaker 1: your your hopes were dashed a bit when you modeled 275 00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:51,280 Speaker 1: something and left it out overnight because you thought it 276 00:12:51,280 --> 00:12:56,280 Speaker 1: would make it into a permanent exhibit. Yeah, but it 277 00:12:56,320 --> 00:12:59,040 Speaker 1: would really just kind of break apart. It's not like 278 00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:01,000 Speaker 1: you can't cure it like you do modeling. 279 00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:04,120 Speaker 3: Clay no I was on Plato's site and they readily 280 00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:07,240 Speaker 3: admit that as a matter of fact, they say, if 281 00:13:07,280 --> 00:13:10,600 Speaker 3: you want a permanent thing, go get your some modeling clay. 282 00:13:10,679 --> 00:13:13,160 Speaker 1: You get some Sculpy. I don't want a buzz market, 283 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:16,560 Speaker 1: but Sculpy's a lot of fun. Okay, we're talking about 284 00:13:16,559 --> 00:13:18,360 Speaker 1: Plato though, Yeah, that Skulpy's fun. 285 00:13:18,920 --> 00:13:21,120 Speaker 3: So but they say modeling clay. They don't say sculpy, 286 00:13:21,160 --> 00:13:22,679 Speaker 3: but they say, if you want to make a permanent thing, 287 00:13:22,800 --> 00:13:24,800 Speaker 3: go get some modeling clay. It's not what Plato's for. 288 00:13:24,920 --> 00:13:29,000 Speaker 1: No, it's for being in the moment making fun things 289 00:13:29,360 --> 00:13:31,959 Speaker 1: and then put smashing those and then putting it back 290 00:13:31,960 --> 00:13:34,880 Speaker 1: in the can right, doing it all over again every day. 291 00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:37,840 Speaker 3: And driving your mom crazy because she can't stand colors 292 00:13:37,880 --> 00:13:40,360 Speaker 3: to be mixed together. She sits there and like picks 293 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:41,520 Speaker 3: them apart or whatever. 294 00:13:41,679 --> 00:13:43,600 Speaker 1: Or it's in the orange shag carpet. 295 00:13:43,320 --> 00:13:48,160 Speaker 3: Which again Hasbro has some helpful suggestions for how to 296 00:13:48,240 --> 00:13:51,920 Speaker 3: clean this stuff up. Sure number one and you will 297 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:55,040 Speaker 3: understand eventually by the end of this podcast. Why do 298 00:13:55,240 --> 00:13:58,480 Speaker 3: not use warm water when you're cleaning up Plato from 299 00:13:58,520 --> 00:14:02,640 Speaker 3: the carpet? Yeah, it will make everything a million times worse. 300 00:14:03,080 --> 00:14:05,600 Speaker 3: What they say, if possible, if you have the patients 301 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:09,439 Speaker 3: of job, just go ahead and let this thing dry, 302 00:14:09,880 --> 00:14:12,760 Speaker 3: turn brittle, use a stiff brush and just kind of 303 00:14:13,240 --> 00:14:16,880 Speaker 3: brush it out of the carpeting, vacuum it up boom. 304 00:14:16,960 --> 00:14:20,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, or do the reasonable thing and get hardwood floors. 305 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:25,080 Speaker 3: All right, we'll discuss that very soon after this message. 306 00:14:26,480 --> 00:14:26,800 Speaker 1: Fish. 307 00:14:35,560 --> 00:14:35,920 Speaker 3: All right. 308 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:39,040 Speaker 1: So Plato is fun enough on its own. Like when 309 00:14:39,040 --> 00:14:42,680 Speaker 1: I was a kid, I had zero accoutrem all to 310 00:14:42,760 --> 00:14:43,840 Speaker 1: go along with my Plato. 311 00:14:44,080 --> 00:14:46,480 Speaker 3: I don't recall having anything but just the Plato too. 312 00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:49,400 Speaker 1: All I had was the Plato in my imagination. And 313 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:52,680 Speaker 1: in nineteen sixty that I said, you know what, let's 314 00:14:52,680 --> 00:14:55,160 Speaker 1: get a couple of engineers from General Electric to design 315 00:14:55,600 --> 00:14:57,320 Speaker 1: what's going to be called the fun Factory. 316 00:14:57,920 --> 00:14:59,280 Speaker 3: That's like, that was it. 317 00:14:59,360 --> 00:15:03,160 Speaker 1: That was it, And you could put Plato into various 318 00:15:03,200 --> 00:15:05,080 Speaker 1: forms and molds and press it and have it come 319 00:15:05,080 --> 00:15:09,760 Speaker 1: out like sausage or spaghetti or just whatever they decided 320 00:15:09,760 --> 00:15:12,080 Speaker 1: to design. Like, have you been to the site recently? 321 00:15:12,320 --> 00:15:12,560 Speaker 3: Yeah? 322 00:15:12,640 --> 00:15:15,120 Speaker 1: There are hundreds of different things that you can buy 323 00:15:15,160 --> 00:15:16,600 Speaker 1: out with your Plato, of course. 324 00:15:16,600 --> 00:15:19,000 Speaker 3: Yes, for sure, and different types of Plato too to 325 00:15:19,400 --> 00:15:22,840 Speaker 3: make different looking things as well. Yeah, but the original 326 00:15:22,920 --> 00:15:26,000 Speaker 3: fun Factory thing is basically just a hand pushed lever 327 00:15:26,720 --> 00:15:30,480 Speaker 3: that shoved the Plato inside through a hole. 328 00:15:30,520 --> 00:15:31,560 Speaker 1: It was a sausage grinder. 329 00:15:31,600 --> 00:15:34,200 Speaker 3: And then basically yeah, and then in front of the hole, 330 00:15:35,040 --> 00:15:38,360 Speaker 3: you had just kind of like different shapes that you 331 00:15:38,400 --> 00:15:41,880 Speaker 3: could make this thing into. Yeah, what'd you say, spaghetti 332 00:15:42,680 --> 00:15:46,080 Speaker 3: rope and the rope. Speaking of the rope, all of 333 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:48,600 Speaker 3: these are basically what it is. An extruder. 334 00:15:48,800 --> 00:15:50,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, this is a Plato extruder. 335 00:15:50,440 --> 00:15:53,240 Speaker 3: Is what these guys came up with. And I guarantee 336 00:15:53,400 --> 00:15:55,720 Speaker 3: they had colored felt tip pens in the fronts of 337 00:15:55,760 --> 00:15:58,480 Speaker 3: their pockets too when they design those things. But this, 338 00:15:58,960 --> 00:16:01,120 Speaker 3: if you took all Plato. By the way, here's a 339 00:16:01,160 --> 00:16:04,560 Speaker 3: Plato fun fact. If you took all the Plato ever 340 00:16:04,640 --> 00:16:08,320 Speaker 3: created and ran it through the fun factory and extruded 341 00:16:08,360 --> 00:16:11,600 Speaker 3: it into one long rope, it would wrap around the 342 00:16:11,640 --> 00:16:13,640 Speaker 3: Earth three thousand times? 343 00:16:14,120 --> 00:16:15,120 Speaker 1: How many big max is that? 344 00:16:15,840 --> 00:16:17,400 Speaker 3: No, I'm sorry, it would wrap around the Earth three 345 00:16:17,480 --> 00:16:19,360 Speaker 3: hundred times. Let's not go. 346 00:16:19,400 --> 00:16:21,040 Speaker 1: Crazy, Oh, only three hundred. 347 00:16:21,160 --> 00:16:23,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, and you could go to the moon and back 348 00:16:23,240 --> 00:16:26,360 Speaker 3: ten times with that rope. You could make a pretty 349 00:16:26,360 --> 00:16:28,680 Speaker 3: good little bridge that would be kind of crumbly by 350 00:16:28,720 --> 00:16:31,040 Speaker 3: the next day. Yeah, but it'd be colorful. 351 00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:31,760 Speaker 1: That's right. 352 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:34,040 Speaker 3: That's a lot of playto man. 353 00:16:34,240 --> 00:16:37,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, they've sold nine hundred and fifty million pounds of 354 00:16:37,680 --> 00:16:41,200 Speaker 1: this stuff, more than two billion cans since nineteen fifty six. 355 00:16:41,320 --> 00:16:44,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, and they apparently make about one hundred million cans 356 00:16:44,360 --> 00:16:44,840 Speaker 3: every year. 357 00:16:45,240 --> 00:16:45,480 Speaker 1: Yah. 358 00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:48,760 Speaker 3: What I find heartening is those are current statistics. 359 00:16:49,280 --> 00:16:50,360 Speaker 1: They're not rated for inflation. 360 00:16:50,920 --> 00:16:54,760 Speaker 3: No, but this article that Tracy wrote was apparently written 361 00:16:54,800 --> 00:16:57,160 Speaker 3: in two thousand and six. Yes, she said that they 362 00:16:57,240 --> 00:16:59,720 Speaker 3: make ninety five million cans, So they've upped their production 363 00:16:59,800 --> 00:17:02,320 Speaker 3: by five million cans a year, which means Plato's not 364 00:17:02,360 --> 00:17:03,239 Speaker 3: going anywhere. 365 00:17:03,760 --> 00:17:04,320 Speaker 1: That's right. 366 00:17:04,440 --> 00:17:05,639 Speaker 3: I'm pretty psyched about that. 367 00:17:05,800 --> 00:17:08,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, and all the stuff they have now, Like they've 368 00:17:08,480 --> 00:17:10,560 Speaker 1: got all sorts of licensing deals like they have like 369 00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:13,439 Speaker 1: the Plato Disney Princess set and right, you can make 370 00:17:13,520 --> 00:17:15,480 Speaker 1: dresses for your Disney princess out of Plato. 371 00:17:15,920 --> 00:17:18,679 Speaker 3: And they have a long standing tradition too of making 372 00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:23,960 Speaker 3: fake food. Like I was watching some I wouldn't really 373 00:17:24,040 --> 00:17:26,840 Speaker 3: call it documentary. It's almost just a compilation of Plato 374 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:28,639 Speaker 3: ads over the years. 375 00:17:28,800 --> 00:17:29,000 Speaker 1: Yeah. 376 00:17:29,280 --> 00:17:31,879 Speaker 3: And there's one from the eighties where you could make 377 00:17:31,960 --> 00:17:33,880 Speaker 3: pizza hut pizzas out of Plato. 378 00:17:33,800 --> 00:17:34,600 Speaker 1: I think I remember that. 379 00:17:34,720 --> 00:17:38,480 Speaker 3: Nowadays they have like a kind of a sweet shop 380 00:17:38,520 --> 00:17:40,600 Speaker 3: I think is the name of the line. And like 381 00:17:40,640 --> 00:17:42,560 Speaker 3: I said, they have different types of Plato. Some are 382 00:17:42,760 --> 00:17:45,879 Speaker 3: squishyar and thinner and more pliable, so you can use 383 00:17:45,920 --> 00:17:48,879 Speaker 3: those to make the frosting, yeah, and use regular Plato 384 00:17:48,960 --> 00:17:51,119 Speaker 3: to make the actual cupcake. 385 00:17:51,240 --> 00:17:52,760 Speaker 1: That's because the cupcake grays, I bet. 386 00:17:53,320 --> 00:17:53,560 Speaker 3: Yeah. 387 00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:55,920 Speaker 1: Probably it's filtered down to kids. And with the gluten 388 00:17:55,960 --> 00:18:03,160 Speaker 1: free graze on your website as contained gluten yeah, as wheat. Yeah, 389 00:18:03,160 --> 00:18:05,920 Speaker 1: but they like have to advertise that now because your 390 00:18:05,960 --> 00:18:08,359 Speaker 1: child will want to eat the plato and if you 391 00:18:08,600 --> 00:18:11,119 Speaker 1: have your kid off gluten, they can't eat the plato. No, 392 00:18:11,359 --> 00:18:13,040 Speaker 1: Mommy has to explain that or daddy. 393 00:18:13,240 --> 00:18:18,359 Speaker 3: But if your kid has a peanut allergy or a 394 00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:20,280 Speaker 3: milk allergy. 395 00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:24,639 Speaker 1: Yeah, you're fine. That's right. Water, salt, and flour is 396 00:18:24,680 --> 00:18:28,680 Speaker 1: the general. I mean, it's a it's a very proprietary 397 00:18:28,840 --> 00:18:30,359 Speaker 1: recipe obviously. 398 00:18:29,960 --> 00:18:33,160 Speaker 3: Right, it's a US patent number six seven one three 399 00:18:33,240 --> 00:18:34,120 Speaker 3: six two four. 400 00:18:35,440 --> 00:18:37,000 Speaker 1: But if you look that up, you're not gonna find 401 00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:37,720 Speaker 1: the ingredients. 402 00:18:37,880 --> 00:18:42,240 Speaker 3: No, like you said, it's proprietary. They they do give 403 00:18:42,400 --> 00:18:48,080 Speaker 3: kind of like a general ingredient list somewhere, I guess 404 00:18:48,119 --> 00:18:51,359 Speaker 3: in the patent itself. Yeah, but yeah, they're not going 405 00:18:51,440 --> 00:18:52,920 Speaker 3: to tell you like how to make it. 406 00:18:53,160 --> 00:18:56,240 Speaker 1: But we'll list those really quickly, and then we're gonna 407 00:18:56,280 --> 00:18:57,200 Speaker 1: talk about chemistry. 408 00:18:57,359 --> 00:19:00,679 Speaker 3: Yeah, we're gonna get to the chemical molecular base of 409 00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:01,880 Speaker 3: play dough itself. 410 00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:04,359 Speaker 1: But in broad terms, it is water. You got a 411 00:19:04,359 --> 00:19:09,000 Speaker 1: starch based binder. You have a retro gradation inhibitor because 412 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:13,000 Speaker 1: you have to inhibit that retrogradation. Sure, salt, know there's 413 00:19:13,040 --> 00:19:14,639 Speaker 1: salt in there. In fact, at one point it was 414 00:19:14,680 --> 00:19:18,919 Speaker 1: too salty and they had to get a new chemist 415 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:20,200 Speaker 1: to remove some of the salt. 416 00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:20,840 Speaker 3: Is that right? 417 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:22,840 Speaker 1: Yeah? But you remember how salty it tasted. 418 00:19:23,560 --> 00:19:24,919 Speaker 3: No, I didn't. I never tasted it. 419 00:19:24,960 --> 00:19:26,840 Speaker 1: Oh you didn't. No, I thought you said you tasted it. 420 00:19:26,840 --> 00:19:28,600 Speaker 3: No, I said I never did I ate the paste? 421 00:19:28,760 --> 00:19:31,639 Speaker 3: Oh okay, I never tasted But the smell was the 422 00:19:31,680 --> 00:19:37,960 Speaker 3: paste salty? No, no, no, it had a weird sweet 423 00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:40,520 Speaker 3: taste to it. It wasn't overly sweet, but of all 424 00:19:40,560 --> 00:19:41,600 Speaker 3: of the tastes. 425 00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:43,480 Speaker 1: Just sweet enough to get a kid to eat it. 426 00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:43,760 Speaker 3: Right. 427 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:47,879 Speaker 1: Salt, you got your lubricant and all this will make 428 00:19:47,920 --> 00:19:52,600 Speaker 1: sense in a bit a surfactant, preservative, hardener, a humectant, 429 00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:58,200 Speaker 1: a fragrance of course in color. I know he used 430 00:19:58,200 --> 00:20:00,640 Speaker 1: almond for the first fragrance, but wonder if it's still 431 00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:02,720 Speaker 1: an offshoot of that smell like almond. 432 00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:06,359 Speaker 3: From what I saw, they've admitted to vanilla. Oh really, 433 00:20:06,760 --> 00:20:09,200 Speaker 3: that's all I've seen, Okay, And they're saying like that 434 00:20:09,640 --> 00:20:10,679 Speaker 3: doesn't tell us anything. 435 00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:13,080 Speaker 1: That's all they admitted to. Yeah, under question, think. 436 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:17,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, but the colors, we should also say, Chuckers. They 437 00:20:17,119 --> 00:20:21,800 Speaker 3: originally had red, yellow, and blue primary colors, and they 438 00:20:21,800 --> 00:20:24,119 Speaker 3: added white, and this is all in the fifties, and 439 00:20:24,119 --> 00:20:26,000 Speaker 3: those are the only colors until the eighties. 440 00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:26,520 Speaker 1: Wow. 441 00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:28,720 Speaker 3: And then they added a couple more than they had 442 00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:31,760 Speaker 3: eight colors total, and then now today it's like a 443 00:20:31,800 --> 00:20:35,280 Speaker 3: whole rainbow, a whole galaxy of different colors. 444 00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:38,240 Speaker 1: I never got the white because it just it looked 445 00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:41,320 Speaker 1: dirty so quickly. Yeah, I never really understood the purpose 446 00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:41,879 Speaker 1: of the white. 447 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:44,080 Speaker 3: I liked it. I thought it was a nice juxtaposition 448 00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:45,280 Speaker 3: with the primary colors. 449 00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:47,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, you were in artiste. 450 00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:49,679 Speaker 3: No, I was just a kind of sore. 451 00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:53,600 Speaker 1: All right. So now the rest of the show, we're 452 00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:54,640 Speaker 1: gonna talk about chemistry. 453 00:20:55,560 --> 00:20:56,800 Speaker 3: You're not happy about this, are you? 454 00:20:57,040 --> 00:20:57,399 Speaker 1: Well? 455 00:20:57,440 --> 00:20:58,879 Speaker 3: What'd you think about this article? 456 00:20:59,119 --> 00:21:01,240 Speaker 1: I thought it was It was good, you know, because 457 00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:03,560 Speaker 1: that's what how stuff works does, is they tell the 458 00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:05,960 Speaker 1: story behind things, Like we can't just talk about surfing. 459 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:08,080 Speaker 1: We have to talk about the physics of a wave, right, 460 00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:13,520 Speaker 1: I get that, But yeah, chemistry was not my bag baby. 461 00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:16,840 Speaker 3: This one, this one kissing and roller coasters. You were 462 00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:19,480 Speaker 3: kind of like you had a little bit of protest 463 00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:21,440 Speaker 3: going on, like, come on, this is fun stuff. 464 00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:23,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, when you're talking about kissing, you want to talk 465 00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:24,600 Speaker 1: about you know. 466 00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:27,200 Speaker 3: Remember the title of it was a rigid, sterile look 467 00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:27,920 Speaker 3: at Kissing. 468 00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:30,360 Speaker 1: Well, I don't know if the title for this will 469 00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:32,119 Speaker 1: end up being what I wanted, but it was going 470 00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:35,720 Speaker 1: to be taking the fun out of Plato. No, it's 471 00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:38,320 Speaker 1: called how Plato Works, all right, but you heard it here. 472 00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:42,520 Speaker 3: That was my It was the working title. Yeah. All right, 473 00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:45,439 Speaker 3: Well I will kick the chemistry off and maybe I 474 00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:49,399 Speaker 3: will spark your interest. Are you ready? 475 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:49,800 Speaker 1: Yes? 476 00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:51,560 Speaker 3: Do you have your beret and your smock on. 477 00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:53,960 Speaker 1: This isn't even the fun chemistry you get to burn things. 478 00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:58,000 Speaker 3: No, this is the chemistry of compounds. You're just adding 479 00:21:58,040 --> 00:22:01,240 Speaker 3: them together. Yeah, yeah, there's a little involved, as we'll see, 480 00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:06,159 Speaker 3: so possibly you could start that flame. Okay, So the 481 00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:10,000 Speaker 3: whole basis of Plato, it turns out, is an interaction 482 00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:16,560 Speaker 3: between starch and water and starches. Are there polysacchrides, which 483 00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:20,720 Speaker 3: are sugar molecules, and there's basically two varieties or two 484 00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:27,400 Speaker 3: types that combine. There's amelos and there's amelopectin, and amylos 485 00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:31,199 Speaker 3: is like a string. Amelopectin is branched, and when they 486 00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:34,600 Speaker 3: get together they form a starburst shape. They form a 487 00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:38,280 Speaker 3: molecule in a starburst shape, and it's arranged around a 488 00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:43,639 Speaker 3: central area a hollow called the highlum hi l u 489 00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:47,320 Speaker 3: M the hylum, and it's all held together thanks to 490 00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:51,240 Speaker 3: hydrogen bonds. And then you have all that these polysacchride 491 00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:54,520 Speaker 3: chains all mixed together with hydrogen bonds forming a starburst. 492 00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:57,520 Speaker 3: And my friend, you have a starch molecule. And when 493 00:22:57,520 --> 00:22:59,919 Speaker 3: you have the starch molecule, you have one of the 494 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:01,800 Speaker 3: two bases of Plato. 495 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:04,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, and this one, this article does have some pretty 496 00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:10,000 Speaker 1: handy illustrations. If hearing this doesn't make as much sense, 497 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:13,919 Speaker 1: you can follow along on your own computer look at 498 00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:17,359 Speaker 1: the illustrations. If you add cold water to starch, the 499 00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:21,120 Speaker 1: granules are gonna absorb some. But when things really get 500 00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:25,960 Speaker 1: interesting is when you add warm water or when you 501 00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:28,960 Speaker 1: heat up that cold water to be warm water. Like 502 00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:30,520 Speaker 1: you can mix it ahead of time and then warm 503 00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:33,080 Speaker 1: it up, and basically what you're doing is making a 504 00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:35,399 Speaker 1: gelatin just like when you make jello. It's got to 505 00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:35,960 Speaker 1: be warm water. 506 00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:38,679 Speaker 3: Right. Like if you've ever had like corn starch or 507 00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:42,280 Speaker 3: flour whatever and you add cold water to it, they 508 00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:42,800 Speaker 3: just kind. 509 00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:45,120 Speaker 1: Of separate, right, It's really untoor it. 510 00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:48,040 Speaker 3: It doesn't do much. It's almost like this starch protects 511 00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:51,120 Speaker 3: itself against the cold It's like, yeah, you stay over 512 00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:53,639 Speaker 3: there cold water. But when you use warm water or 513 00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:56,760 Speaker 3: mechanical action of mixing it together, it forms, like you said, 514 00:23:57,280 --> 00:24:00,880 Speaker 3: it gelatinizes. That's right, and how you're starting to get 515 00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:04,440 Speaker 3: the basis of play dough. But the problem is when 516 00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:08,520 Speaker 3: you just add warm water and the starch in this 517 00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:11,040 Speaker 3: case it's wheat starch that they use, right, because they 518 00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:15,400 Speaker 3: have to gluten more against gluten. When you add those 519 00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:17,680 Speaker 3: two things, they mix together well, they form a nice 520 00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:22,360 Speaker 3: gelatinous goo. But as it dries, you've got the problem 521 00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:27,200 Speaker 3: of retrogradation. That's right, and that's trouble. 522 00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:31,199 Speaker 1: Yeah, because it really depends on the breakdown of amelos 523 00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:34,720 Speaker 1: to amelopectin is the key. If you have a lot 524 00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:39,080 Speaker 1: of ammelos, it's going to take more swelling to gelatinize, right. 525 00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:43,040 Speaker 3: But you get a nice robust gel when you have 526 00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:45,760 Speaker 3: a lot of amlose. But the problem is that excess 527 00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:50,600 Speaker 3: ammelos separates some from the water, binds to itself, and 528 00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:54,199 Speaker 3: then you have something that's not a full compound anymore. 529 00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:56,960 Speaker 3: It's basically like a couple of It's like you've got 530 00:24:56,960 --> 00:24:59,040 Speaker 3: that gel and then some extra amylose and it's dry 531 00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:00,400 Speaker 3: and brittle and it's not good. 532 00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:02,439 Speaker 1: Well. Yeah, and in the case of making a product 533 00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:04,719 Speaker 1: for kids to play with, it's too firm, Like they 534 00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:07,000 Speaker 1: had to get this recipe just right to make it 535 00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:10,919 Speaker 1: firm but still pliable, right, And a lot of a 536 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:12,920 Speaker 1: lot of work went into this, I'm sure. 537 00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:15,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, because at anytime, like they started with a starch 538 00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:18,600 Speaker 3: in the water, put it together fantastic, but then that 539 00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:20,760 Speaker 3: created this problem, yep. And then when they went to 540 00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:23,000 Speaker 3: solve this problem, it created this problem. So then they 541 00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:25,840 Speaker 3: had to solve this problem. And then after adding like 542 00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:31,120 Speaker 3: seven things, they finally have this like precariously balanced compound. 543 00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:31,880 Speaker 1: That's perfect. 544 00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:35,679 Speaker 3: That's perfect, but it's pretty neat. It's really complicated, and 545 00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:39,000 Speaker 3: it's self complicating, which I find very interesting it is. 546 00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:41,159 Speaker 1: And what they ended up settling with as far as 547 00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:43,879 Speaker 1: percentages goes for that wheat startch was twenty five percent 548 00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:47,800 Speaker 1: amelos and seventy five percent amelopectin. They found that to 549 00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:51,040 Speaker 1: be the secret sauce, right, as our buddy Chad likes 550 00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:51,359 Speaker 1: to say. 551 00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:55,240 Speaker 3: And the reason they have the amelopectin is because the 552 00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:58,679 Speaker 3: amelopectin is a waxy starch and it keeps the amelos 553 00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:03,959 Speaker 3: from binding to itself. So you have you've prevented that 554 00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:08,000 Speaker 3: retrogradation problem right where the amelos separates from the water 555 00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:11,119 Speaker 3: and just binds to itself. The problem is now that 556 00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:15,520 Speaker 3: you have this extra amelo pectin. The amelo pectin, it 557 00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:18,280 Speaker 3: keeps the whole thing together, but it does it too much, 558 00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:20,800 Speaker 3: and now you have a sticky tachy compound. 559 00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:22,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, you don't want it sticky. 560 00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:24,200 Speaker 3: No, And anybody's ever played with Plato and tried to 561 00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:26,320 Speaker 3: make something. You can't make it sticky. I'll stick to 562 00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:28,080 Speaker 3: your hands, or I'll stick to itself. It's not going 563 00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:32,520 Speaker 3: to make a cheeseburger like that. No, No, so they 564 00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:34,320 Speaker 3: added something else, a lubricant. 565 00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:38,320 Speaker 1: That's right in this case. I don't know if it's 566 00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:41,399 Speaker 1: that's part of the secret or not, but it's probably 567 00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:43,480 Speaker 1: some sort of a vegetable oil or mineral oil. 568 00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:46,560 Speaker 3: Well they think possibly it's it's a mineral oil which 569 00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:49,920 Speaker 3: is derived from petroleum, which petroleum which is why it's 570 00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:51,800 Speaker 3: non toxic, but you still shouldn't eat it. 571 00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:53,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, I did see that there was petroleum. I bet 572 00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:55,920 Speaker 1: you they're going to come out with a gluten free playto. 573 00:26:56,119 --> 00:26:58,119 Speaker 3: I'm surprised they haven't already. 574 00:26:57,720 --> 00:27:01,639 Speaker 1: But that would almost be like it minting. Your child 575 00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:03,359 Speaker 1: is eating this or can eat it? 576 00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:07,000 Speaker 3: Well, some of that new stuff like the Sweet Shop stuff. Yeah, 577 00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:10,800 Speaker 3: I'm actually I would be very surprised if they hadn't 578 00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:15,560 Speaker 3: done some R and D of different flavored play dough, right, 579 00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:18,080 Speaker 3: you know, because they have the different colors and this 580 00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:19,960 Speaker 3: is supposed to look like this frosting. This is supposed 581 00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:22,080 Speaker 3: to look like this frosting. So I wonder if they 582 00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:24,840 Speaker 3: were like, well, we can't make this taste like vanilla 583 00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:28,240 Speaker 3: or or you know, cotton cany or whatever. But yeah, 584 00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:29,800 Speaker 3: and then they kind of shook their heads off, and 585 00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:32,040 Speaker 3: we're like, wait, we can't have kids eating this stuff. 586 00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:33,720 Speaker 1: Or I wonder if they've done R and D on 587 00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:35,880 Speaker 1: how much of it you can eat before it makes 588 00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:38,680 Speaker 1: you sick? Surely, Like if they're making something that looks 589 00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:41,840 Speaker 1: like a cupcake, yeah, some kid is probably going to 590 00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:43,359 Speaker 1: eat that entire thing at some point. 591 00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:45,840 Speaker 3: And like we said, they've pretty much always been like, 592 00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:47,159 Speaker 3: you can make fake food with this. 593 00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:49,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, Pizza Hut gave us money to do this, but 594 00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:50,399 Speaker 1: don't eat it. 595 00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:53,120 Speaker 3: Right, it's a weird mixed message. 596 00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:54,960 Speaker 1: It is a totally mixed message. 597 00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:57,159 Speaker 3: But you were saying they use the petroleum oil for 598 00:27:57,400 --> 00:27:58,200 Speaker 3: as a lubricant. 599 00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:00,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, and that keeps it from being all sticky. So 600 00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:02,359 Speaker 1: if you've ever played with it, you know it like 601 00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:05,480 Speaker 1: it's very pliable and moist, but it's not going to 602 00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:06,840 Speaker 1: stick to your fingers, which is the key. 603 00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:11,320 Speaker 3: Right. So you have added the mineral oil or some 604 00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:17,560 Speaker 3: sort of lubricant to prevent the extra amlopectin from making 605 00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:20,800 Speaker 3: it sticky. And the whole reason you added amelopectin was 606 00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:24,600 Speaker 3: because too much amelose can cause retrogradation. So you've got 607 00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:27,560 Speaker 3: all these solutions and you've got the lubricant solution. The 608 00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:30,520 Speaker 3: problem is you can't just put like, you can't just 609 00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:33,399 Speaker 3: drop it into lubricant and expect it to stick. The 610 00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:38,280 Speaker 3: lubricant won't bind within this compound. Yeah, so you have 611 00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:41,680 Speaker 3: to add yet another thing, the surfactant. 612 00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:45,680 Speaker 1: Yeah. Surfactants you'll see in a lot of household cleansing 613 00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:49,000 Speaker 1: products if you use that chemical junk to clean your house. 614 00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:53,480 Speaker 1: But a surface active agent is another name for it, 615 00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:58,880 Speaker 1: and it basically they're artificially manufactured. They're molecules, but it's 616 00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:02,680 Speaker 1: gonna suspend some water. It's the whole keyt of being asurfractant. 617 00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:07,000 Speaker 3: Imagine, a surfactant has two ends, and one end is hydrophilic, 618 00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:09,760 Speaker 3: which means it attracts water and is attracted to water, 619 00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:13,200 Speaker 3: and the other is hydrophobic, which means it repels water 620 00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:15,560 Speaker 3: and it's actually attracted to fats lipids. 621 00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:17,240 Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, are afraid of it. Even. 622 00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:20,520 Speaker 3: The cool thing about a surfactant is that if you 623 00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:22,760 Speaker 3: take it and you throw it into a solution of 624 00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:27,120 Speaker 3: water and oil, fats and waters, right, one end will 625 00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:30,120 Speaker 3: attract the fat molecules and another end will attract the 626 00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:34,560 Speaker 3: water molecules. And what the end result of all of 627 00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:39,120 Speaker 3: this is that you can basically suspend fats in water 628 00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:45,000 Speaker 3: or water in fats, so that you have effectively, molecularly speaking, 629 00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:48,560 Speaker 3: something a compound that's all mixed together. It's not going 630 00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:51,200 Speaker 3: to separate like oil and water, because the whole thing's 631 00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:54,920 Speaker 3: being held together by surfactants. That's right, that's pretty amazing. 632 00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:57,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, it actually binds to the molecules of the lubricanty 633 00:29:58,200 --> 00:29:59,840 Speaker 1: chemical reaction is taking place. 634 00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:01,760 Speaker 3: And keeps them all mixed together. It won't allow him 635 00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:05,240 Speaker 3: to separate. So we've got the lubricin in there. Yeah, 636 00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:09,400 Speaker 3: the whole thing's being held in place by their surfactant. 637 00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:09,880 Speaker 1: All looped up, ready to go. 638 00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:12,000 Speaker 3: We've got a little extra water, chuck, what are we 639 00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:12,440 Speaker 3: gonna do? 640 00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:15,400 Speaker 1: Well? I don't think we mentioned earlier. The reason it 641 00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:17,160 Speaker 1: dries out to begin with if you leave it out 642 00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:19,120 Speaker 1: overnight is just because of evaporation. 643 00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:22,480 Speaker 3: Right, And Hasbro recommends that if this happens, you take 644 00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:27,000 Speaker 3: your Plato modeling clay. Yeah, and you wrap it in 645 00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:29,120 Speaker 3: like a damp paper towel, put it back in the camp, 646 00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:30,920 Speaker 3: but the cover on it leave it overnight should be 647 00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:31,360 Speaker 3: good as new. 648 00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:32,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, And I've seen you can also add a little 649 00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:36,120 Speaker 1: water to it as well. Yeah, but I've never tried that, 650 00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:40,800 Speaker 1: so that, my friend is it's a very fine tuned mixture, 651 00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:43,080 Speaker 1: like you said, they had to. I'm sure it took 652 00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:44,360 Speaker 1: a lot of work over the years to get it 653 00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:47,680 Speaker 1: just exactly right. And we're going to learn how you 654 00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:50,160 Speaker 1: can make your own right after this break. 655 00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:57,280 Speaker 3: So chuck. Yeah, we should have said. There's a couple 656 00:30:57,320 --> 00:30:59,600 Speaker 3: other things that they add, Like you get excess to water, 657 00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:02,640 Speaker 3: so they added a little salt. Yeah, sure, and apparently 658 00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:04,600 Speaker 3: for the excess salt they brought in a new chemist. 659 00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:08,680 Speaker 3: So it's just fine, perfectly fine tune stuff. 660 00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:10,080 Speaker 1: And you get a color it of course, and give 661 00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:10,800 Speaker 1: it its sent. 662 00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:17,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, and then possibly make it taste in the future. 663 00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:19,120 Speaker 3: Who knows. I'm betting on that. 664 00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:22,160 Speaker 1: Yeah. And you know, the salts also adds a little 665 00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:24,160 Speaker 1: anti microbal element to it. 666 00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:26,520 Speaker 3: Right, which is nice, so it has it acts as 667 00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:30,280 Speaker 3: a preservative as well. And to make Plato, you just 668 00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:33,880 Speaker 3: put all this stuff in these in the right measurements 669 00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:37,400 Speaker 3: and apply heat to it and mix it together and 670 00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:39,040 Speaker 3: package it and that's Plato. 671 00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:40,959 Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's got to have that shelf life like 672 00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:43,160 Speaker 1: this is. It's really hard to come up with a 673 00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:46,960 Speaker 1: product like this that meets all those needs, and we'll 674 00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:49,320 Speaker 1: still like, you know, I'm sure there were times early 675 00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:51,080 Speaker 1: on where like, oh, this stuff's two weeks old on 676 00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:54,040 Speaker 1: the shelf, it's like a brick back to the drawing board. 677 00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:56,760 Speaker 1: Ye put on your beret and your smock. 678 00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:59,720 Speaker 3: Remember in our How Twinkies Works episode they dealt with 679 00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:01,440 Speaker 3: that initially. 680 00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:03,800 Speaker 1: Of the shelf life. Yeah, right, so they just made 681 00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:06,520 Speaker 1: it infinity. Man, that was such a good episode. No, 682 00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:09,240 Speaker 1: it's good, one of my all time favorites. Agreed. We 683 00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:11,120 Speaker 1: still get emails from people that are like, I found 684 00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:12,160 Speaker 1: the banana Twinkies. 685 00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:15,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, they have them in like limited release from once 686 00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:17,800 Speaker 3: in a while. Yeah, I have yet to try one. 687 00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:21,240 Speaker 1: I remember trying one years ago, but it wasn't my bag. 688 00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:23,680 Speaker 1: I don't like banana flavor things, but I like bananas. 689 00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:26,400 Speaker 3: Huh. You're a very complex Manchuck. 690 00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:27,840 Speaker 1: Well, they don't. They don't quite get it right. I 691 00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:31,120 Speaker 1: don't think ever, I've never tasted a banana flavor thing 692 00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:34,160 Speaker 1: that got it right, gotcha. I'm hard to please, So. 693 00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:37,600 Speaker 3: Man, you just totally threw me off. What were we 694 00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:38,080 Speaker 3: talking about? 695 00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:39,240 Speaker 1: We were I think we were at to a point 696 00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:40,600 Speaker 1: where we're going to make our own right. 697 00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:43,520 Speaker 3: Right, So it's very tough to make what until you 698 00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:46,480 Speaker 3: come upon the recipe. But apparently a lot of people, 699 00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:48,960 Speaker 3: even though it's a proprietary recipe, a lot of people 700 00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:52,120 Speaker 3: have come up with their own recipes for play though. 701 00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:53,920 Speaker 1: Sure, and it's fun to do with your kid, you know, 702 00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:56,400 Speaker 1: like if they like playing with it, then you can 703 00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:58,760 Speaker 1: teach them a little chemistry along the way, right, get 704 00:32:58,760 --> 00:32:59,800 Speaker 1: a learning moment if. 705 00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:03,720 Speaker 3: You want to save some money, or you you don't 706 00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:07,280 Speaker 3: want to feed the corporate beast that too, or yeah, 707 00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:09,120 Speaker 3: you just want to do something with your kid and 708 00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:11,240 Speaker 3: make it. You can do all this stuff. It just 709 00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:14,160 Speaker 3: takes a little elbow grease and work. And there's recipes 710 00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:16,560 Speaker 3: all over the internet. There's some for like glowing the 711 00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:21,120 Speaker 3: dark plato. Oh really, there's some for glittery plato. There's 712 00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:24,240 Speaker 3: a couple of recipes in this article on how stuff works. 713 00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:27,400 Speaker 3: But basically you're doing the same thing. You're adding starch 714 00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:31,600 Speaker 3: to water, you're adding some sort of lubricant to it, 715 00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:34,560 Speaker 3: something to hold the whole thing together. In this recipe, 716 00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:38,480 Speaker 3: it's a cream of tartar yes which stiffens eggs and 717 00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:42,840 Speaker 3: gives plato homemade plato its firmness. But there's a lot 718 00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:45,480 Speaker 3: of recipes online that if you want to not only 719 00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:49,000 Speaker 3: just play with Plato with your kid, but make it. 720 00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:53,880 Speaker 3: That's a great chemistry teaching experience. I think, agreed. 721 00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:57,520 Speaker 1: And you can explain, you know, what each ingredient is doing, 722 00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:00,880 Speaker 1: and then at the very end, gonna have plato and 723 00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:04,360 Speaker 1: your kid's gonna say this Plato stinks. It's not nearly 724 00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:05,480 Speaker 1: as good as the real thing. 725 00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:08,600 Speaker 3: Unless it's the peanut butter variety. And I'll bet you're like, ooh, 726 00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:09,880 Speaker 3: this is tasty plato. 727 00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:11,279 Speaker 1: Do they have that? 728 00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:13,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a recipe for it in this article. 729 00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:15,680 Speaker 1: So peanut butter is one of the ingredients. 730 00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:20,120 Speaker 3: Yes, interesting, Yeah, or you know what, you could make 731 00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:24,080 Speaker 3: it with your kid. Wow. You listen to us stumble 732 00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:27,880 Speaker 3: through the explanation. Yeah, and to everybody who's doing that 733 00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:30,719 Speaker 3: right now, Hello, Hello everyone, and. 734 00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:32,600 Speaker 1: Your kid's gonna say, who are these jerks? And why 735 00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:34,600 Speaker 1: does my plato not work? 736 00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:36,719 Speaker 3: Can we just go to the store and buy some 737 00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:37,520 Speaker 3: plato please? 738 00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:37,920 Speaker 1: Yep? 739 00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:41,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, Well we're portable. We go around on MP three players, 740 00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:43,320 Speaker 3: so we can go to the store with you two. 741 00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:46,200 Speaker 1: Exactly what else you got and then you can listen 742 00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:48,080 Speaker 1: to our episode on temper tantrums on the way to 743 00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:48,520 Speaker 1: the store. 744 00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:50,960 Speaker 3: That was a good one too. It was what else 745 00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:55,120 Speaker 3: do you got? I've got nothing else, I got plenty more. 746 00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:56,799 Speaker 1: Oh well, please. 747 00:34:57,040 --> 00:35:00,480 Speaker 3: Mister Bill remember him from sarat Life. Of course he 748 00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:03,040 Speaker 3: was made a Plato. Yeah, they made the first mister 749 00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:04,920 Speaker 3: Bill short for twenty bucks. 750 00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:08,880 Speaker 1: That's pretty good stuff. What else you got? Fun facts? 751 00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:09,920 Speaker 1: Playoff fun facts. 752 00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:14,160 Speaker 3: There's a there's not just one, but two at least 753 00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:18,719 Speaker 3: Plato three D printers on the market right now. Really, yeah, 754 00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:20,480 Speaker 3: it's pretty awesome. So you put a hunk of it 755 00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:22,920 Speaker 3: in there, different hunks in there, and oh no, no, no, 756 00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:25,239 Speaker 3: and it I was about to say, a hunk in there, 757 00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:26,800 Speaker 3: and then it whittles it down. But that's the opposite 758 00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:29,480 Speaker 3: of three D. No, no, it extrudes it. It builds up. 759 00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:30,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's crazy. 760 00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:33,279 Speaker 3: There's one on think Geek for like fifty bucks that 761 00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:36,799 Speaker 3: plugs into your iPad, so that's where your schematics are, 762 00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:39,120 Speaker 3: and it tells it what to do, and it makes 763 00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:41,720 Speaker 3: pretty cool little three D Plato stuff. 764 00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:42,479 Speaker 1: That's kind of fun. 765 00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:44,680 Speaker 3: It is at the same time, it's kind of like, 766 00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:49,200 Speaker 3: you know, I mean you're you're really building a little 767 00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:52,480 Speaker 3: geek there, but the imagination and the hands on things 768 00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:53,920 Speaker 3: kind of taken out of it a little bit. 769 00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:56,960 Speaker 1: Well, I think that that's the new imagination, my friend, I. 770 00:35:56,920 --> 00:36:00,319 Speaker 3: Guess, so to follow forms and schematics the. 771 00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:03,600 Speaker 1: T maybe so it would be cool as if you 772 00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:07,480 Speaker 1: could design your own schematic and then. 773 00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:10,400 Speaker 3: Which I'm treated you can. Yeah. And then Plato has 774 00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:13,839 Speaker 3: one called the do Vinci. I saw that, and that's 775 00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:16,759 Speaker 3: a three D printer too. And then one other thing 776 00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:20,520 Speaker 3: I found we were talking about plato ads earlier. There 777 00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:25,320 Speaker 3: is a series of band plato ads that were published 778 00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:27,680 Speaker 3: in Singapore a couple of years back. 779 00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:30,160 Speaker 1: Oh, band is in? I thought you meant like bands 780 00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:30,919 Speaker 1: recorded music. 781 00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:36,080 Speaker 3: No, no, like d taboo plato ads that are very 782 00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:38,080 Speaker 3: adult centric. 783 00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:40,399 Speaker 1: Really yeah that can you say? 784 00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:40,560 Speaker 3: What? 785 00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:42,000 Speaker 1: Well? 786 00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:43,080 Speaker 3: How about this? 787 00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:43,520 Speaker 1: Yeah? 788 00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:46,040 Speaker 3: I made a slideshow of them on our site. You 789 00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:49,200 Speaker 3: can go check them out. They're pretty crazy. They're not 790 00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:51,600 Speaker 3: like naked or not adult in that way, but like 791 00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:54,520 Speaker 3: kind of violent and a little dark that this ad 792 00:36:54,520 --> 00:37:00,720 Speaker 3: agency made basically without the approval of has Bro clearly, 793 00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:04,040 Speaker 3: and Hasbro came in and like denounced it and everything. 794 00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:05,760 Speaker 3: But they're pretty great. So if you go to stuff 795 00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:09,040 Speaker 3: you should dot com and search a band Plato ads, 796 00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:10,359 Speaker 3: it will come up. 797 00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:12,479 Speaker 1: And Hasbro had a news release it says we don't 798 00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:16,920 Speaker 1: endorse this use of Plato brand multiple Clay Right, they 799 00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:18,160 Speaker 1: just kept working the name in there. 800 00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:20,759 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's pretty crazy. I learned all about something called 801 00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:27,280 Speaker 3: scam ads, where advertising agencies basically create ad campaigns based 802 00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:31,319 Speaker 3: around brand names without the brand names permission, simply to 803 00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:36,719 Speaker 3: submit them for awards consideration to expand their prestige. 804 00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:40,319 Speaker 1: Interesting. Well, and if you want to be a TV 805 00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:43,799 Speaker 1: commercial director, you have probably made some spec or fake 806 00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:47,120 Speaker 1: ads yourself, right, just to have on your reel, Like 807 00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:49,040 Speaker 1: you know, I'm going to make a Dorito. Well, Dorito 808 00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:50,240 Speaker 1: says said coast every. 809 00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:53,279 Speaker 3: Year, right, So this is that same thing. But sometimes 810 00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:55,440 Speaker 3: they really run a foul of like the spirit of 811 00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:59,279 Speaker 3: the brand. Sure, and there's yeah scam ads. 812 00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:01,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, they're like you're a pan commercials which are always 813 00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:06,480 Speaker 1: way better than risque and like funny. Yeah, get with it, America. 814 00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:09,320 Speaker 3: So if you want to learn more about Plato, including 815 00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:12,840 Speaker 3: a few Plato recipes, you can type Plato into the 816 00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:15,520 Speaker 3: search bar house stuffworks dot Com and say said search bar, 817 00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:16,799 Speaker 3: it's time for a listener mail. 818 00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:21,600 Speaker 1: I'm going to call this another MPAA called the Golden 819 00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:26,279 Speaker 1: f Bomb. Hey, guys, I discovered your show and he 820 00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:28,480 Speaker 1: says Helloa Jerry and spilled her name right too. Oh 821 00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:31,120 Speaker 1: that was nice, which doesn't happen aten, No, the spelling 822 00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:35,200 Speaker 1: that is. I discovered your podcast while looking for something 823 00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:37,840 Speaker 1: interesting to listen to while I worked on my organic 824 00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:42,400 Speaker 1: farm in Kawhi nights, I heard the MPAA show and 825 00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:44,359 Speaker 1: I just had to write. In growing up, my friends 826 00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:45,680 Speaker 1: and I were always looking for a way to sneak 827 00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:48,239 Speaker 1: into movie theaters via the exit door, having an older 828 00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:51,920 Speaker 1: friend or parent, biased tickets, using a ticket, single ticket 829 00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:54,680 Speaker 1: stub passed back through to get in on the same ticket, 830 00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:57,240 Speaker 1: et cetera. He had all sorts of ways of stealing. 831 00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:01,120 Speaker 1: Our goal was to get into an ra the movie Underage, 832 00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:05,880 Speaker 1: with NC seventeen being the ultimate prize PG. Thirteen always 833 00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:08,000 Speaker 1: felt like we had failed or were settling, So to 834 00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:11,240 Speaker 1: make it fun, we would count how many expletives were 835 00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:15,120 Speaker 1: we heard and compare notes after the movie. He really 836 00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:16,279 Speaker 1: took things to a different level. 837 00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:20,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, it must have been a time when movies weren't 838 00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:22,240 Speaker 3: as good as they are today. In the theaters. 839 00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:24,200 Speaker 1: No, movies have never been this bad. 840 00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:27,240 Speaker 3: I know, man, it is really out of kate. It's terrible. 841 00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:30,760 Speaker 1: One pattern we soon realized was that PG thirteen movies 842 00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:33,600 Speaker 1: are allotted one F bomb. Listening for that one f 843 00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:36,359 Speaker 1: bomb became the looked for a moment, making the PG 844 00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:39,440 Speaker 1: thirteen movie experience. It's had more interesting and something I 845 00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:42,239 Speaker 1: look out for to this day. Still there are some 846 00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:47,640 Speaker 1: real classics, including Ron Burgundy's and Anchorman, most recently in Skyfall, 847 00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:51,719 Speaker 1: when Judy Dinch uses that naughty word. 848 00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:53,839 Speaker 3: She did, I don't remember that, Judy. 849 00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:57,640 Speaker 1: The first one in the Bond series, heclaimed, Judy, Judy, Judy, Oh, 850 00:39:57,640 --> 00:39:59,719 Speaker 1: I just saw Filamina by the way, finally, what did 851 00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:00,160 Speaker 1: you think. 852 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:02,120 Speaker 3: Think that it was fantastic? Was that just an amazing 853 00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:04,160 Speaker 3: change of pace for her? She always plays like the 854 00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:07,759 Speaker 3: sharp pulled together like yeah yeah, like boss Lady, and 855 00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:10,960 Speaker 3: this one she was just kind of just working class. God, 856 00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:11,719 Speaker 3: that was a good movie. 857 00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:12,359 Speaker 1: It was really good. 858 00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:13,080 Speaker 3: I love that movie. 859 00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:17,759 Speaker 1: Highly recommended. And then I noticed the rating rule is 860 00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:22,080 Speaker 1: not ironclad, however, because recent examples of Lincoln and Philamina, Hey, 861 00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:25,520 Speaker 1: how about that had two of those naughty words a piece. 862 00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:28,680 Speaker 3: Lincoln had it in their hunts that Spielberg gets away 863 00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:29,280 Speaker 3: with anything. 864 00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:32,240 Speaker 1: Well, he's the one that had the whole thing changed. 865 00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:33,920 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, he was the one that created it. 866 00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:38,240 Speaker 1: PG. Thirteen. Yeah, and then he ran a foul of it. Anyway, 867 00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:43,440 Speaker 1: My absolute favorite PG thirteen Golden Goal naughty word not 868 00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:46,520 Speaker 1: mentioned anywhere else that I've researched, was the one that 869 00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:49,280 Speaker 1: got me out of my seat cheering like the President's 870 00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:53,200 Speaker 1: speech and Independence Day is from Oblivion. Tom Cruise's character 871 00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:55,960 Speaker 1: waits to the very end of the movie to deliver 872 00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:59,360 Speaker 1: the perfectly timed line to his enemy that movie. 873 00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:02,680 Speaker 3: Stunk, didn't Yeah, I heard the other one was pretty 874 00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:04,440 Speaker 3: good though, Edge of Tomorrow. 875 00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:06,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, that was really good. Oblivion stunk. And he closes 876 00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:11,160 Speaker 1: by saying, mahalo nue loa, thank you very much for 877 00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:13,320 Speaker 1: all you do to infotain us. And that is Evans 878 00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:18,439 Speaker 1: on Kawhii. Yeah, sorry, Evans, Oblivion was no good. He said, 879 00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:20,520 Speaker 1: he liked it a lot, but you know, to each 880 00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:22,120 Speaker 1: their own, I'm not gonna poopooit his taste. 881 00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:24,839 Speaker 3: Good for you, Chuck, thanks for. 882 00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:27,640 Speaker 1: Your game and your thievery. 883 00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:30,280 Speaker 3: If you want to talk to me and Chuck about movies, 884 00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:32,279 Speaker 3: we are always down for that. We love to talk 885 00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:34,960 Speaker 3: about movies. We should just like do an episode where 886 00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:38,120 Speaker 3: we just just say have you seen this movie? Oh? Yeah, 887 00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:40,919 Speaker 3: I love that one for like a half hour. There'll 888 00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:42,919 Speaker 3: be a couple of people out there there like, oh, 889 00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:43,880 Speaker 3: this is a good episode. 890 00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:46,319 Speaker 1: There were podcasts liked exactly like that. You know that? 891 00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:52,040 Speaker 3: What was I just saying? Oh yeah. 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