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Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL Podcast is in gradual declase. Welcome

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Speaker 1: to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast. I'm

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Speaker 1: Dan jnsas alright, come from a virtual room builled with

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Speaker 1: some heroes. Greg Rosenthal, Mark Sessler. Do you guys? Have

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Speaker 1: you guys given any thought here as we come up

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Speaker 1: on New Year's Eve? Um, we're back in our bunkers. Um.

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Speaker 1: Do you ever get the vibe that perhaps we have

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Speaker 1: like the gods are in the midst of like work

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Speaker 1: shopping some type of extinction level event and you know,

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Speaker 1: you know, a little drought here, a little fire there,

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Speaker 1: a little mud slide here, a little pandemic here. Let's

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Speaker 1: mix in some variants and now we have biblical rainstorms

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Speaker 1: in Los Angeles, which a city cannot deal with. Um. Mark,

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Speaker 1: I know you're you're well read in the in the

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Speaker 1: realm of scripture. Uh. Is this something? I feel like

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Speaker 1: we're all about to break into Amy Man singing in

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Speaker 1: our car as frogs fall from the sky. Yeah. I

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Speaker 1: think there's something to it. Um. We've we've misused the

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Speaker 1: earth for our materialistic pursuits for thousands of years. Um,

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Speaker 1: really top that as an answer. Yeah, it might not

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Speaker 1: be a gradual decline. Um, it might be like a

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Speaker 1: swift decline that's going on. At least that's like the

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Speaker 1: you mentioned the mud site, that the mountain, that the

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Speaker 1: roads near us, near me at least there are like

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Speaker 1: the rain pounding on the roof here. Um, I hear

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Speaker 1: sirens in the background. And I have not mentioned yet

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Speaker 1: that this is everybody a very special addition of the

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Speaker 1: Around the NFL podcast. It's the COVID nineteen edition with

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Speaker 1: Mark Seessler. Mark, this is where you talk to Mark. Yes,

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Speaker 1: I have I found out this morning. Um, I've been

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Speaker 1: dealing with like a cough for the last like thirty

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Speaker 1: There's a Kickers club and there's a Corona Club, and

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Speaker 1: now you're in it. Well I think I picked the

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Speaker 1: wrong club. But yes, it's you and you and Connie. Um,

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Speaker 1: it's too bad, it's too bad. You know you're not

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Speaker 1: feeling well, So it sounds like, you know, I don't

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Speaker 1: think you're gonna do the whole show here. Appreciate you know,

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Speaker 1: just like seeing your face before we we wish you

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Speaker 1: happy New Year, saying saying goodbye for the rest of

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Speaker 1: the show. I'm now feeling like even having you on

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Speaker 1: look well. I I just um, like I initially it

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Speaker 1: was just like this cough, It's no, It's gonna be fine. Like,

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Speaker 1: but um, I I feel like I'm in a dream,

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Speaker 1: like the last hour, things started to get a little strange,

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Speaker 1: and I like, I just hope it's a quick thing.

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Speaker 1: I think Greg I speak for both of us and Ricky,

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Speaker 1: thank you, buddy for getting it out here and saying, well,

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Speaker 1: I don't know if I've gutted it out to appear

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Speaker 1: the plan. Now, we don't you to what you're describing.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for that. No, there you go, Mark, I

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Speaker 1: This is a must win situation for the Vikings, who

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Speaker 1: best team in the NFC North I think we've seen enough.

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00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:18,320
Speaker 1: But at the same time, we've also been sucked into

427
00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:22,440
Speaker 1: the Cincinnati experience already this year. Uh Mark Sessler did

428
00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:25,080
Speaker 1: notably UM when they won those back to back games

429
00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:26,960
Speaker 1: and they got blown out by the Chargers and then

430
00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:29,959
Speaker 1: lose a home game in overtime to forty Niners and

431
00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:32,399
Speaker 1: came down to Earth let the division catch back up

432
00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:35,919
Speaker 1: again before these last two wins. But I don't know,

433
00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:39,080
Speaker 1: am I crazy? Greg? That it feels different this time.

434
00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:41,480
Speaker 1: The fact that it's later in the season, the fact

435
00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:45,680
Speaker 1: that Borough delivered a historic passing performance UM on Sunday.

436
00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:50,480
Speaker 1: I know the Ravens are absolutely destroyed by injuries and COVID,

437
00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:53,720
Speaker 1: but it still was meaningful to see them bully a

438
00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:57,680
Speaker 1: team that has bullied them for decades. And I think

439
00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:01,320
Speaker 1: there's some momentum here that would lead to something special

440
00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:05,280
Speaker 1: happening against the Chiefs, something that because imagine what happens.

441
00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:07,880
Speaker 1: Imagine a scenario, Greg, and I'm not locking up the Bengals,

442
00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:11,840
Speaker 1: but imagine a scenario where Cincinnati beats the Chiefs ends

443
00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:15,960
Speaker 1: Kansas City's a game winning streak. Think how we'll be

444
00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:18,119
Speaker 1: thinking about the Bengals at that moment. They will of

445
00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:20,960
Speaker 1: a sudden, it seemed like an a f C legit,

446
00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:24,360
Speaker 1: real deal contender, and in this strange year, I don't

447
00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:26,719
Speaker 1: think that's a crazy thought. I kind of like Cincinnati's

448
00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:30,560
Speaker 1: chance to chances to keep their momentum going here. Well,

449
00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:34,160
Speaker 1: the difference is that Joe Burrow is like a top

450
00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:37,439
Speaker 1: five quarterback right now. I think something clicked him for

451
00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:40,359
Speaker 1: him in that Pittsburgh game. Now it's weird because I

452
00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:42,840
Speaker 1: know they lost the following two weeks, but that's that's

453
00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:46,000
Speaker 1: why I like doing QB index. In those two following

454
00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:49,479
Speaker 1: weeks where they lost, he played sensational and it almost

455
00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:52,520
Speaker 1: felt like they weren't letting Burrow cook. And last week

456
00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:56,119
Speaker 1: they let Burrow cook. And I hope that's there plan

457
00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:58,879
Speaker 1: moving forward because they can't count on this defense to

458
00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:02,639
Speaker 1: hold Kansas City down. They have such a unique um

459
00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:06,480
Speaker 1: skill set in having two outside receivers and Higgins and

460
00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:08,760
Speaker 1: in Chase. I know Boyd's great in the middle and everything,

461
00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:12,200
Speaker 1: but no one else has two outside receivers quite like that.

462
00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:17,040
Speaker 1: In Burrow um mentally, like going through his progression so fast,

463
00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:21,760
Speaker 1: like his pocket movement. I know today that Spagnola compared

464
00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:25,000
Speaker 1: him to a young Brady just which is a lot,

465
00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:27,320
Speaker 1: but I think maybe it's the pocket movement that really

466
00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:30,080
Speaker 1: gets him talking like that. And just like the quickness.

467
00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:32,520
Speaker 1: There was a touchdown to Mixing last week where like

468
00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:35,400
Speaker 1: he saw his first two you know reads were done

469
00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:37,879
Speaker 1: zo so quick that he gets the ball to Mixing

470
00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:40,480
Speaker 1: in time for Mixing to make a play after the

471
00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:42,240
Speaker 1: catch and go score a touchdown. And that's the type

472
00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:45,920
Speaker 1: of Brady type stuff that the Burrow does. Um yeah,

473
00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:49,040
Speaker 1: I I totally can see Burrow keeping it up. It

474
00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:51,240
Speaker 1: just feels like I'm with you that he is now

475
00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:55,240
Speaker 1: jumped up a level. He's leveled up here, and um

476
00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:58,000
Speaker 1: the what I love. I love his attitude. He reminds

477
00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:01,640
Speaker 1: me in some ways of Baker in terms of a personality.

478
00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:03,840
Speaker 1: That he's feisty, that he plays with a little bit

479
00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:06,360
Speaker 1: of a chip on his shoulder, but he has more.

480
00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:09,119
Speaker 1: He has elite skills as a passer and he you know,

481
00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:11,200
Speaker 1: as you talked about, I think on the broadcast last week,

482
00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:13,840
Speaker 1: he's moving really well. Um, so he's just I think

483
00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:16,560
Speaker 1: playing in the game with so much confidence. Kansas City's

484
00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:20,240
Speaker 1: defense obviously has been good all season. They carried them

485
00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:24,040
Speaker 1: um during some really rough times. For the offense. Uh.

486
00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:26,720
Speaker 1: You know, during most of the season, it isn't It

487
00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:31,240
Speaker 1: is notable that they've been a much better team, UM,

488
00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:34,800
Speaker 1: defensively at home this year. They've allowed seventeen points per

489
00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:38,120
Speaker 1: game at home, almost twenty five per game on the road.

490
00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:40,320
Speaker 1: The last time they were on the road, Uh, it

491
00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:42,440
Speaker 1: was a game I was at here at SOFI Stadium

492
00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:46,080
Speaker 1: and the Chargers and Justin Herbert and other young Sensation

493
00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:49,719
Speaker 1: quarterback uh really had his way with the Chiefs defense

494
00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:51,640
Speaker 1: in multiple spots. I know they made some big fourth

495
00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:53,479
Speaker 1: down stops there, but they were moving the ball up

496
00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:55,720
Speaker 1: and down the field on them. So, you know, it's

497
00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:58,840
Speaker 1: one of those things where I respect what Kansas City

498
00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:01,040
Speaker 1: has done on defense, but I I don't feel like

499
00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:03,520
Speaker 1: this is Bears. This is not the two thousand Ravens.

500
00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:06,760
Speaker 1: And I could see Burrow moving. I like a shootout here, Greg,

501
00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:10,560
Speaker 1: and I like I like the Bengals, and like that

502
00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:14,400
Speaker 1: changes the temperature in the a f C. Wow, let's

503
00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:16,720
Speaker 1: do it. I'm not with you at all. In fact,

504
00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:19,080
Speaker 1: I'm going the whole opposite way. You convinced me that

505
00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:21,280
Speaker 1: the Browns maybe weren't the best lock in the world.

506
00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:24,200
Speaker 1: I'm locking up the Chiefs here, I'm changing my mind

507
00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:27,600
Speaker 1: because it's like the old times. You don't get that

508
00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:29,800
Speaker 1: any chance to lock up the Chiefs when when Byron

509
00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:32,119
Speaker 1: Pringle is running all over you. To me, that felt

510
00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:34,840
Speaker 1: like this like Canary in the coal Mine edition. It's like, oh,

511
00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:38,280
Speaker 1: the Chiefs are back. When Byron Pringle and Derek Gore

512
00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:41,080
Speaker 1: dropping thirty on you in the first half, I'm like, Okay,

513
00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:44,320
Speaker 1: they're getting their secondary guys. Mahomes look so comfortable last week.

514
00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:46,399
Speaker 1: I think Burrow could keep up in a shootout, but

515
00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:48,320
Speaker 1: I don't think it's a fair fight because I do

516
00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:51,040
Speaker 1: think the Chiefs defense is a lot better than the

517
00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:54,760
Speaker 1: Bengals defense. So I'm locking them up. You convinced me.

518
00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:57,679
Speaker 1: I still like that Brown's pick, but uh, I like

519
00:26:57,760 --> 00:27:01,120
Speaker 1: the Chiefs more. Okay, that's fair. Right, Let's now move

520
00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:04,600
Speaker 1: to the Mark pick. I will I'll pick from Mark first. Here,

521
00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:06,760
Speaker 1: greg Um, what do we want to do? Do we

522
00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:09,119
Speaker 1: want to give him bad games for fun? Now? I

523
00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:11,439
Speaker 1: mean he's under the weather. We should be nice. What

524
00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:13,840
Speaker 1: would Mark want to cover? I think that's a well.

525
00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:16,680
Speaker 1: I I have self interest here, and I can't even

526
00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:19,439
Speaker 1: pretend you know that I don't care because I do

527
00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:24,240
Speaker 1: care about what I'm watching this Sunday. It's Week seventeen, sneaky, sneaky,

528
00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:27,000
Speaker 1: good week. You know, these last two weeks like things

529
00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:31,080
Speaker 1: are finalized, you know, all right, so you usually I

530
00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:33,760
Speaker 1: don't care, but this week I care. So I'm picking four. Mark.

531
00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:35,399
Speaker 1: You have its snakes with you, so you get the

532
00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:37,159
Speaker 1: next two picks. So you just gotta hope that I

533
00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:40,920
Speaker 1: don't pick that game that you really want right now, right,

534
00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:44,240
Speaker 1: that's what we're getting at here, right, don't Yes, that's true.

535
00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:52,359
Speaker 1: I should have kept my mouth shut. Arizona Dallas. That's it. No,

536
00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:54,800
Speaker 1: I won't take it. I just was guessing, and I

537
00:27:54,840 --> 00:28:05,159
Speaker 1: guess correctly. Let's give Let's give Mark. Okay, let's give

538
00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:07,560
Speaker 1: him by any Dolphins at Tennessee Titans. That's a good

539
00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:11,280
Speaker 1: that would have been my next one. UM. Alright, so

540
00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:15,360
Speaker 1: the Dolphins, we know the story now, first team ever

541
00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:17,959
Speaker 1: to lose seven or row wins seven arrows same season.

542
00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:22,119
Speaker 1: Uh two has been pretty good. I still I'm not

543
00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:24,280
Speaker 1: blown away by to it, but I know he's obviously

544
00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:28,119
Speaker 1: played a role in this UM comeback season for the Ages.

545
00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:31,720
Speaker 1: Here Jalen Waddle, Um, I really liked the George godzy

546
00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:34,040
Speaker 1: game plan. They seem to understand that this is the

547
00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:36,240
Speaker 1: guy they need to unlock week after week, the way

548
00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:39,640
Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan uses Deebo Samuel for instance, like get the

549
00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:43,480
Speaker 1: ball in this guy's hands. He's a playmaker. But here's

550
00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:46,479
Speaker 1: a test. Now, this is a test. I've been waiting

551
00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:50,080
Speaker 1: for this so long, Greg, for the Dolphins. Maybe this

552
00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:52,000
Speaker 1: is the a f C East guy in me. It's

553
00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:56,360
Speaker 1: like not that there's been a parade. Hank going back

554
00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:58,720
Speaker 1: and forth on Twitter. You don't like that the Dolphins

555
00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:01,440
Speaker 1: fans are chirping right now. I don't like it because

556
00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:03,680
Speaker 1: I feel like they should also get it a little bit,

557
00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:05,560
Speaker 1: and I think they do. They just don't want to

558
00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:08,880
Speaker 1: say it. Um that they need to have a real

559
00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:13,080
Speaker 1: impact win or a high profile win. Maybe I'll give

560
00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:16,120
Speaker 1: you the Thursday Night against the Ravens a month ago,

561
00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:19,360
Speaker 1: but we know the raven season was heading um, But

562
00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:21,760
Speaker 1: that doesn't matter. I will say this about the Dolphins.

563
00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:25,000
Speaker 1: I thought the game against the Saints, even though it

564
00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:27,880
Speaker 1: was a totally stacked deck against New Orleans, obviously with

565
00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:32,200
Speaker 1: Ian Book playing, I think Miami in prime time, having

566
00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:35,479
Speaker 1: the time of their lives flying around the field. I

567
00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:38,480
Speaker 1: think it might carry more weight than some might think.

568
00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:41,680
Speaker 1: I think they're starting to really believe now like they

569
00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:44,200
Speaker 1: I think they I got the vibe of a team

570
00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:47,480
Speaker 1: that's gonna go into this week knowing a there's a

571
00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:49,960
Speaker 1: lot of knuckleheads like me that are doubting them and

572
00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:53,640
Speaker 1: be feeling like they can beat everybody now. So I

573
00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:56,400
Speaker 1: think it's a dangerous game. I'll start there. You take

574
00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:58,840
Speaker 1: it away, yeah, I mean they gotta feel like really

575
00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:02,360
Speaker 1: confident after winning seven games. These two teams are so

576
00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:07,200
Speaker 1: similar though. They're like really good defensive fronts. They're really

577
00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:11,400
Speaker 1: good defensive game plan teams where they change who they

578
00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:15,400
Speaker 1: are depending on the week. Very flexible secondaries like Tennessee's defense,

579
00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:17,640
Speaker 1: to Mike Vdiable's credit, is a lot better this year

580
00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:20,600
Speaker 1: than it's ever been before. U too really bad offensive lines,

581
00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:23,040
Speaker 1: two quarterbacks that kind of have to overcome it. Each

582
00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:26,320
Speaker 1: team have their like one wide receiver um that stands

583
00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:29,120
Speaker 1: out in in a J Brown and Waddle. But that's

584
00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:31,280
Speaker 1: that's why I like the Titans just by a little

585
00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:34,320
Speaker 1: in this game because to me, Tannehill on nights like

586
00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:36,920
Speaker 1: that San Francisco game, he's pretty close to special. I

587
00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:39,680
Speaker 1: know he's not like elite, but he hit eight third

588
00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:42,600
Speaker 1: and longs in that game, eight like half of them

589
00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:45,600
Speaker 1: is while he's getting blasted. Um, and I just love

590
00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:47,880
Speaker 1: that watching that dude. I just think he's kind of

591
00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:52,080
Speaker 1: turned into this underrated quarterback and they've been in these games,

592
00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:55,560
Speaker 1: and I guess I'm not quite ready to give TWA

593
00:30:55,720 --> 00:31:00,320
Speaker 1: and Waddle the edge when I see so many similarities. Otherwise, Yeah,

594
00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:02,880
Speaker 1: Miami's defense is probably a little bit better, but it's

595
00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:06,400
Speaker 1: not that different. I think Tennessee and and this team

596
00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:08,960
Speaker 1: that has killed me. By the way I was talking

597
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:12,120
Speaker 1: with Graver, I think I'm like, I think I like

598
00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:14,360
Speaker 1: locked up against the Titans probably three or four times

599
00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:17,080
Speaker 1: this year and was wrong every single time. So that's

600
00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:18,880
Speaker 1: that's the story of my Locks season. But it's kind

601
00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:21,959
Speaker 1: of the story of like anyone doubting this Titans team. Yeah,

602
00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:25,000
Speaker 1: and I think Tannehill. You may have heard that he

603
00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:26,880
Speaker 1: was a wide receiver of Texas A and M before

604
00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:29,360
Speaker 1: he became a quarterback. Maybe it makes sense, like when

605
00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:31,680
Speaker 1: you connect the dots that he's a tough ass dude,

606
00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:34,360
Speaker 1: because you cannot play wide receiver at any level. Uh,

607
00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:36,160
Speaker 1: if you're afraid to get hit or can't take a

608
00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:38,440
Speaker 1: hit and he just gets walloped and always seems to

609
00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:41,600
Speaker 1: pop back up, hangs in the pocket, keeps his eyes downfield.

610
00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:44,960
Speaker 1: I like Tannehill, and I think sometimes Greggy with the

611
00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:47,760
Speaker 1: locks game, and I am ahead in the locks. Um.

612
00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:49,960
Speaker 1: I have a two game lead on Mark with UH

613
00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:51,880
Speaker 1: two weeks ago in the regular season. We count the

614
00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:54,600
Speaker 1: playoffs as well, so I'm in a good position, um,

615
00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:57,160
Speaker 1: And I don't like to something I think Mark has

616
00:31:57,160 --> 00:31:58,959
Speaker 1: gotten into trouble with where you kind of want to

617
00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:02,560
Speaker 1: your pick locks to kind of get behind a team

618
00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:05,360
Speaker 1: that you believe in, because that's that's picking locks with

619
00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:08,440
Speaker 1: your heart, not your head. But sometimes you gotta kind

620
00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:10,800
Speaker 1: of you gotta put your money where your mouth is.

621
00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:13,720
Speaker 1: So if I'm saying I don't really believe in Miami,

622
00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:16,840
Speaker 1: and I'm saying I thought that Tennessee win against San

623
00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:19,800
Speaker 1: Francisco kind of it was almost like they had disappeared

624
00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:21,400
Speaker 1: from the picture. They were gone for a month and

625
00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:23,560
Speaker 1: a half and they were back with a J. Brown.

626
00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:26,760
Speaker 1: So I like Tennessee here. I like them so much

627
00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:30,280
Speaker 1: that I'm gonna lock them up on Sunday to take

628
00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:33,960
Speaker 1: out the Dolphins and break Henry Hotchins heart. Uh. You're

629
00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:37,040
Speaker 1: not playing the our Lady of the Worthless Miracle anymore.

630
00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:41,320
Speaker 1: Dolphins fans, Now you've got a real opponent. That's good.

631
00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:43,720
Speaker 1: You gotta stand behind your take. I feel like you've

632
00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:46,240
Speaker 1: been dogging this Dolphins team. Plus this is what you

633
00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:48,680
Speaker 1: can do with the two game lead. Yeah, I've got

634
00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:51,160
Speaker 1: this lock trophy here right next to me. Dan, I'm

635
00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:54,640
Speaker 1: the back to back defending champions. I'm not going to

636
00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:58,920
Speaker 1: be winning this year. Champion, no ties, no nothing. And

637
00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:00,880
Speaker 1: by the way, it was like it was like Cruise City.

638
00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:03,400
Speaker 1: I didn't even have to sweat out the final conference

639
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:06,160
Speaker 1: champage of the Super Bowl. You might be headed that way.

640
00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:08,360
Speaker 1: I gotta bring this in because it's no longer mine.

641
00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:11,040
Speaker 1: I'm I'm I'm well out of it. Jan. I don't

642
00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:15,280
Speaker 1: know if this matters, but as of maybe four minutes ago, A. J.

643
00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:20,320
Speaker 1: Brown still not practicing on Thursday, what's his malady? That

644
00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:22,560
Speaker 1: was not aware? P bole are saying, like in the

645
00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:25,080
Speaker 1: comments it was a rural world tweet. People were saying

646
00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:28,400
Speaker 1: covid like follow the tea leaves or let him rest

647
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:30,760
Speaker 1: because it's a not going to be a you know, well,

648
00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:32,880
Speaker 1: I will not be locking up the Titans if a J.

649
00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:36,080
Speaker 1: Brown is not playing, because we've certainly seen enough of

650
00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:38,640
Speaker 1: the Titans without J. A J. Brown this year than

651
00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:42,040
Speaker 1: Rigulio in a In a number of other people, including

652
00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:45,640
Speaker 1: Westbrook A. Kina went on the COVID list on Monday.

653
00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:48,120
Speaker 1: It should be noted, but based on the new rules,

654
00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:52,200
Speaker 1: those guys could come off by Sunday. As we taped this,

655
00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:57,080
Speaker 1: this stuff is all it's fluid. It is fluid, all

656
00:33:57,160 --> 00:34:00,640
Speaker 1: right now, Greg, it moves to you. I'm taking that

657
00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:03,800
Speaker 1: Cardinals Cowboys game. It's it's by far. You see the act.

658
00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:07,240
Speaker 1: You see that act of kindness. That was nice. I

659
00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:10,960
Speaker 1: admit I don't normally really care what s bottom picking.

660
00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:13,480
Speaker 1: I'm happy with whatever game. I'm gonna watch them all anyways.

661
00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:17,719
Speaker 1: But it's like week seventeen, we've got clinching scenarios. We've

662
00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:21,120
Speaker 1: got like how is this story gonna end? Scenarios like

663
00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:24,319
Speaker 1: I want to see this game and the other two

664
00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:26,520
Speaker 1: late games are kind of dogs. They moved them out

665
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:28,560
Speaker 1: of the way, so this one get a big rating,

666
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:32,120
Speaker 1: and uh, I want to see like the Cowboys in

667
00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:34,160
Speaker 1: a real spot. They've kind of had an easy schedule

668
00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:37,040
Speaker 1: to here, Dan as they've been beating up these NFC

669
00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:40,960
Speaker 1: East teams with their defense and when their offense was struggling.

670
00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:44,960
Speaker 1: There hasn't been a lot of like, okay, statement Cowboys games,

671
00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:47,160
Speaker 1: and when you had one, it was against the Chiefs

672
00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:50,040
Speaker 1: and it didn't go very well. So you got the Cardinals.

673
00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:51,880
Speaker 1: And one reason I'm excited about this game, as I

674
00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:56,439
Speaker 1: saw on Thursday, Rodney Hudson back at practice, Rondelle Moore

675
00:34:56,640 --> 00:35:00,799
Speaker 1: back at practice, James Conner back at practice. Uh but

676
00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:03,080
Speaker 1: you know Hopkins isn't coming back right now, but especially

677
00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:05,279
Speaker 1: Hudson and Connor, Like people kind of overlook that in

678
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:07,279
Speaker 1: that Colts game because it's like both sides have these

679
00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:10,120
Speaker 1: COVID issues and you don't know like which one matters

680
00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:12,520
Speaker 1: more of It's like that offense just can't handle move

681
00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:15,240
Speaker 1: losing that many good players. James Connor has been amazing,

682
00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:18,560
Speaker 1: Hudson is an all pro type center, and so they're back,

683
00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:23,200
Speaker 1: and so I I like, I like the Cardinals plus five.

684
00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:25,279
Speaker 1: At the very least, I'm not giving away that many

685
00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:28,200
Speaker 1: points to Kyler mri one. I haven't. I don't care

686
00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:30,680
Speaker 1: how he's looked lately. But I'm just excited to see

687
00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:33,120
Speaker 1: see what happens in this game. Because if the Cowboys

688
00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:36,200
Speaker 1: offense really is hitting their stride as we get into

689
00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:38,960
Speaker 1: the playoffs, like they could get that one seed with

690
00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:40,919
Speaker 1: a little help here from Minnesota. They have the tie

691
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:42,719
Speaker 1: breaks on the one seed Dan, So if they win

692
00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:44,759
Speaker 1: these two out and the Packers lose, like they're gonna

693
00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:47,520
Speaker 1: get the one seed, which would be totally crazy. Yeah,

694
00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:50,000
Speaker 1: I mean thirteen and four would be well learned. I

695
00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:53,560
Speaker 1: think I was getting some heat. I was taking some

696
00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:55,960
Speaker 1: fire with the power rankings because I didn't move the

697
00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:59,040
Speaker 1: Cowboys into the top five off the Washington win. But

698
00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:01,480
Speaker 1: I think what you need to do with some of

699
00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:04,040
Speaker 1: the where we are in our league right now is like,

700
00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:05,920
Speaker 1: all right, so they put up they had a forty

701
00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:08,920
Speaker 1: two seven half time lead, Like that was a Washington

702
00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:11,319
Speaker 1: team that wasn't a very good team to start with,

703
00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:14,040
Speaker 1: that was missing, missing a ton of guys to injury

704
00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:16,200
Speaker 1: in covid in a quarterback who couldn't even lift a

705
00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:18,759
Speaker 1: laundry basket a couple of days before the game. So

706
00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:22,600
Speaker 1: while I credit everyone involved for the win, because that's

707
00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:24,840
Speaker 1: always a good thing to do in the NFL, uh,

708
00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:27,719
Speaker 1: let's calm down with acting like now the Cowboys are

709
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:31,000
Speaker 1: locked and loaded run to the Super Bowl. However, they

710
00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:34,399
Speaker 1: go and they lay it on Arizona here. Um, I'm

711
00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:36,560
Speaker 1: all in on on Dallas. So I think it's like

712
00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:38,759
Speaker 1: kind of like, all right, Dak looked a lot better

713
00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:41,520
Speaker 1: in his two and a half quarters. Um. Now if

714
00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:43,799
Speaker 1: he does it against a team that has um, you

715
00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:46,239
Speaker 1: know they're playing with urgency here. They still have a

716
00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:49,840
Speaker 1: chance at the NFC West. The Cardinals here, Um, I

717
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:52,280
Speaker 1: know it's not looking so hot after the three straight losses.

718
00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:56,440
Speaker 1: I agree with you, James Conner, especially um and always

719
00:36:56,480 --> 00:37:00,359
Speaker 1: offensive line play and health is vital, but honor has

720
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:02,239
Speaker 1: been such a huge part of what they do. You

721
00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:06,319
Speaker 1: can't take Connor and Hopkins out and expect Kyler Murray

722
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:10,120
Speaker 1: to continue to do his job. Um. So that's a

723
00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:13,920
Speaker 1: big addition. I just wonder if the Cardinals and you

724
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:15,839
Speaker 1: talked about it on Tuesday, I think a little bit,

725
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:18,399
Speaker 1: or maybe it was Sunday, Like, I wonder if they're

726
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:21,440
Speaker 1: just they've taken on some water here mentally. That and

727
00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:23,920
Speaker 1: I wonder with the coaching staff if they're up to

728
00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:26,160
Speaker 1: the challenge here of digging out of this hole. I'm

729
00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:29,000
Speaker 1: not sure if they're there. I think it's a coaching mismatch.

730
00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:34,520
Speaker 1: I like the Cowboys coordinators better in general. Uh. And

731
00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:36,680
Speaker 1: the Cardinals can still win the NFC West. They're only

732
00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:40,720
Speaker 1: one back of the Rams. The Rams play the forty

733
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:43,600
Speaker 1: Niners next week, who have been kind of a nightmare

734
00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:45,640
Speaker 1: matchup for them. So like this is this is a

735
00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:47,959
Speaker 1: big game. If the Cardinals lose, they'll they'll be locked

736
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:51,399
Speaker 1: into that into that sea. It's a great game though,

737
00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:54,120
Speaker 1: and I think it's uh, I assume this is gonna

738
00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:57,959
Speaker 1: be a bucking Achman game, right. It feels like they're born.

739
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:01,760
Speaker 1: Romo is at since and at a Kansas City early

740
00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:05,520
Speaker 1: for you, Oh look at that. I actually, you know,

741
00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:07,920
Speaker 1: when you were giving me a little gup for crowing

742
00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:11,400
Speaker 1: about the Denver Raiders game last week, I kind of

743
00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:13,840
Speaker 1: stumbled into a Romo game, right, Oh no, no, it

744
00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:16,839
Speaker 1: was Pittsburgh. I was Pittsburgh. I had that game as well. Uh.

745
00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:19,239
Speaker 1: And and Romo suffered through that game like the rest

746
00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:22,319
Speaker 1: of us. Um, all right, it snakes to you, all right,

747
00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:27,520
Speaker 1: I'll take the Rams Ravens early. I um don't know

748
00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:30,200
Speaker 1: as we tape this if Lamar Jackson's gonna start, but

749
00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:34,000
Speaker 1: I'm guessing that he won't. They had some footage at practice.

750
00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:37,880
Speaker 1: Did you see that on Wednesday? He was walking with

751
00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:41,160
Speaker 1: a limp, not running with a limp, not running at

752
00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:44,359
Speaker 1: half speed, walking with a limp. It looked like that

753
00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:47,719
Speaker 1: Marshall the clip of Byron left which at Marshall where

754
00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:50,560
Speaker 1: like his offensive lineman end up carrying him down the

755
00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:53,160
Speaker 1: field like Lamar could barely get from the twenty to

756
00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:55,080
Speaker 1: the forty. What are we doing here? And then he

757
00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:57,719
Speaker 1: didn't practice on Thursday. To be clear, by the way,

758
00:38:57,800 --> 00:39:00,400
Speaker 1: all those Cardinals guys they said they were back at practice.

759
00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:02,080
Speaker 1: We don't know for sure if they play, but usually

760
00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:04,360
Speaker 1: that's a great sign. The fact Lamar is out of

761
00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:07,560
Speaker 1: practice after giving it a go is a pretty strong

762
00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:10,840
Speaker 1: indication to me, um that this miracle is not coming

763
00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:14,359
Speaker 1: for this team. Tyler Huntley was taken off the COVID list.

764
00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:17,480
Speaker 1: The Ravens who had it felt like their whole team

765
00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:20,439
Speaker 1: on the COVID list at some point has basically everyone off.

766
00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:23,879
Speaker 1: So even though they're still very injured, uh, they don't

767
00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:27,319
Speaker 1: have the COVID problems right now. But it shouldn't matter

768
00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:30,840
Speaker 1: because the Rams are going up against the thirty ranked

769
00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:33,799
Speaker 1: past defense according to d v o A in Baltimore,

770
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:38,000
Speaker 1: and I know Stafford struggled last week, but you just

771
00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:40,799
Speaker 1: think that the Rams have the players to take advantage.

772
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:45,000
Speaker 1: It's really not all about quarterback and the offense. For Baltimore,

773
00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:46,920
Speaker 1: I think they've done a good enough job if they

774
00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:49,360
Speaker 1: somehow had an old school Ravens defense, but they just

775
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:51,600
Speaker 1: haven't had that all year, and injuries I think have

776
00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:56,560
Speaker 1: hurt the defense more than anything. Yeah, I especially and

777
00:39:56,560 --> 00:40:00,560
Speaker 1: and Tyler Huntley looked good obviously before he disappeared on

778
00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:02,759
Speaker 1: the COVID list. But I don't like the way this

779
00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:05,760
Speaker 1: shapes up at all for the Ravens, a team that's

780
00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:09,000
Speaker 1: that's taken on too many hits at this point. Now

781
00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:15,319
Speaker 1: do we put anything into the Rams traveling cross country

782
00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:20,160
Speaker 1: a game they should win, maybe having a flat performance.

783
00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:22,480
Speaker 1: I do not rule this team out for for something

784
00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:24,520
Speaker 1: like that. Although I really have liked what I've seen

785
00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:26,600
Speaker 1: from the Rams the last couple of weeks. I love

786
00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:28,759
Speaker 1: the way they played against the Vikings. They just were

787
00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:31,080
Speaker 1: the better team for four quarters in a game where

788
00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:34,319
Speaker 1: the Vikings should have had all the urgency to put

789
00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:36,560
Speaker 1: up a one last stand at home. So I really

790
00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:39,000
Speaker 1: like where the Rams are at it as a team.

791
00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:41,720
Speaker 1: Their offense made big plays with Cooper Cup, the defense

792
00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:44,719
Speaker 1: made big plays. Uh, special teams made a huge play

793
00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:47,759
Speaker 1: on a punt return. Um. So I the Rams are

794
00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:49,560
Speaker 1: would be my pick in this game if I were

795
00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:54,560
Speaker 1: in the Rosenthal game pick situation. But I guess there

796
00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:56,759
Speaker 1: is something to be said for the Ravens and they're

797
00:40:57,000 --> 00:40:59,560
Speaker 1: they're coaching, and their I the Tiger in a big

798
00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:01,880
Speaker 1: spot year. I think maybe it's a close game, but

799
00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:03,680
Speaker 1: I like the Rams, right. I mean, if you think

800
00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:07,720
Speaker 1: about before last week, the Ravens were in one score

801
00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:11,160
Speaker 1: games going back five six weeks again against some good teams,

802
00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:13,960
Speaker 1: including the Packers. So they've been feisty and they have

803
00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:15,880
Speaker 1: the best special teams in the league, and the Rams

804
00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:17,680
Speaker 1: have just about the worst. So if you're looking for

805
00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:20,960
Speaker 1: something to hang your hat on Ravens, it would be

806
00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:23,319
Speaker 1: it would be special teams. I could see them stepping up.

807
00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:25,960
Speaker 1: I still feel like they're dangerous somehow, Like if they

808
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:28,080
Speaker 1: could somehow win one of these last two games and

809
00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:30,000
Speaker 1: get a ton of breaks, like I would not want

810
00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:33,680
Speaker 1: to see John Harbor Lamar in a one game situation.

811
00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:36,080
Speaker 1: Odell Beck him. By the way, I have some numbers

812
00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:37,799
Speaker 1: for you before we move on. I just wanted to

813
00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:40,480
Speaker 1: throw this out here. He's played the exact same games

814
00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:43,120
Speaker 1: amount of games for the Browns and the Rams. For

815
00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:46,320
Speaker 1: the Browns he had seventeen catches two and thirty two yards.

816
00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:48,640
Speaker 1: For the Rams, he has twenty catches two hundred and

817
00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:51,719
Speaker 1: forty eight yards uh for both. He seems to have

818
00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:55,799
Speaker 1: about three miss communications with his quarterback every week. I

819
00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:58,040
Speaker 1: I have not been on the it's so those fault

820
00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:00,759
Speaker 1: sort of bandwagon, but something's go went on here and

821
00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:03,719
Speaker 1: they need a secondary to receiver to step up. Last week,

822
00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:06,200
Speaker 1: if they had lost that game, it was partly because

823
00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:10,440
Speaker 1: they couldn't find a completion to anyone not named Cooper, Cup, Jefferson,

824
00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:13,120
Speaker 1: O d B. The tight ends just we're not getting

825
00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:15,720
Speaker 1: it done, and O dB was a big part of it. Yeah,

826
00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:19,359
Speaker 1: I I obviously been tracking the same thing as well.

827
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:22,920
Speaker 1: And it's like, I thought it was unfair that that

828
00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:24,759
Speaker 1: Baker was hung out to dry the way he was

829
00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:27,120
Speaker 1: in that that whole situation, And I didn't think it

830
00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:30,440
Speaker 1: was particularly noble the way Beckham handled himself there. And

831
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:33,319
Speaker 1: it doesn't surprise me because it's been it's been a

832
00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:36,160
Speaker 1: while since Beckham was a real, you know, impact player.

833
00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:39,400
Speaker 1: Now he does have I believe three touchdowns. That's a

834
00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:41,239
Speaker 1: big difference. He didn't score it off for the Brown

835
00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:43,400
Speaker 1: and look like he's helping them. They it's better that

836
00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:45,520
Speaker 1: they have them than they don't, and I think they

837
00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:46,960
Speaker 1: could use a little more if they want to go

838
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:49,279
Speaker 1: win a super Bowl, is what I'm saying. Right, He's

839
00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:51,959
Speaker 1: he's weird because it's not a situation where it's like, well,

840
00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:55,480
Speaker 1: that's because Beckham's not physically talented anymore. Like the route

841
00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:58,400
Speaker 1: he ran on the touchdown against the Vikings was a

842
00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:00,440
Speaker 1: great little route in the red zone. Was like, oh,

843
00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:02,520
Speaker 1: look how quick he is, and look how guys trying

844
00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:04,920
Speaker 1: to cover him get lost. And he's had certainly moments

845
00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:07,360
Speaker 1: with both teams where he's been opened and his quarterback

846
00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:09,200
Speaker 1: has missed him. But I just don't know if he's

847
00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:11,480
Speaker 1: a guy. Yeah, like you're saying necessarily that you could

848
00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:14,360
Speaker 1: trust as you're locked and loaded number two. Um, this

849
00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:16,160
Speaker 1: is gonna be an important last few games of the

850
00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:20,480
Speaker 1: season for him, all right, now, let us move now

851
00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:23,440
Speaker 1: to the next Mark pick, and you're on it. Oh,

852
00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:26,239
Speaker 1: I'm on the Mark pick. All right. Well, I'll take

853
00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:28,439
Speaker 1: a late game for him. Then he just doesn't have anything.

854
00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:31,760
Speaker 1: Before we move on, there's someone else that has a comment.

855
00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:36,799
Speaker 1: Hello heroes, fill again this week. I hope everybody had

856
00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:39,880
Speaker 1: a great Christmas. This week we are picking the Rams

857
00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:43,040
Speaker 1: over the Ravens. The Ravens secondary got torched against the

858
00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:45,800
Speaker 1: Bengals last week and now they go up against Stafford

859
00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:48,520
Speaker 1: Cup and O b J. We expect the same results

860
00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:51,960
Speaker 1: this week. Aaron Donald had six sex in December. It

861
00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:54,680
Speaker 1: was named defensive Player of the month. You're sure to

862
00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:57,280
Speaker 1: cost trouble for whoever is playing QB for the Ravens.

863
00:43:57,880 --> 00:44:01,640
Speaker 1: Rams over Ravens. Lock it up. You know, I like

864
00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:06,759
Speaker 1: Phil Phil. They all bring a different little sizzle and

865
00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:10,759
Speaker 1: style to it. But feels more no frills, feels like

866
00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:12,880
Speaker 1: this is why I'm making the pick. This is what

867
00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:16,600
Speaker 1: I'm thinking. There's not more frills. Give me more frills, Phil,

868
00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:20,080
Speaker 1: more more? Um, you know, don't I don't need the

869
00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:23,239
Speaker 1: offense defensive player of the month. Give me, give me

870
00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:26,440
Speaker 1: some personality, or bring Macki back. Hang on a second, Well,

871
00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:28,120
Speaker 1: we'd love to have Macki back in the mix, but

872
00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:32,480
Speaker 1: let's let Phil be Phil. Okay, we don't need him

873
00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:34,680
Speaker 1: to be playing a different role. You don't want Phil

874
00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:36,239
Speaker 1: trying to act like Nick, and we don't want Nick

875
00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:39,480
Speaker 1: trying to act like Phil. That's true. Phil is um

876
00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:42,279
Speaker 1: is a beautiful guy. You don't feel straight shooter. He's

877
00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:44,719
Speaker 1: the same same Phil every day, which feels a good

878
00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:47,200
Speaker 1: dude and feels like that warm sweater. You pull that

879
00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:49,520
Speaker 1: warm sweater over your head and you know you're in

880
00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:54,560
Speaker 1: good company. You're safe. All right, let's move on. Phil's

881
00:44:54,560 --> 00:45:00,480
Speaker 1: wife's like, what, let's take a break, be right back.

882
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:04,839
Speaker 1: All right, what's the market? I'm gonna this really would

883
00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:08,399
Speaker 1: be Mark spec It's Houston San Francisco in the late window. Uh,

884
00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:12,080
Speaker 1: it's not. It's not. It's just like not only a

885
00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:16,160
Speaker 1: potential blowout, but it includes his forty niners. Uh, it's perfect.

886
00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:22,160
Speaker 1: I'm almost disappointed that we don't have our network show. Well,

887
00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:24,799
Speaker 1: I am disappointed, but like for the main reason is,

888
00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:26,759
Speaker 1: like I wanted to do a bit where we give

889
00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:30,040
Speaker 1: the Texans two minutes because Davis Mills has earned it,

890
00:45:30,080 --> 00:45:33,839
Speaker 1: you go stomp the Chargers out in what Football Outsiders

891
00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:39,880
Speaker 1: had as one of the five best offensive performances uh

892
00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:43,080
Speaker 1: according to efficiency of any team in any game all

893
00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:46,280
Speaker 1: season by the Houston Texans office. Last week, they scored

894
00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:49,960
Speaker 1: a touchdown like every freaking drive, and so Mills playing

895
00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:53,080
Speaker 1: a little well and Trey Lance starting this game most

896
00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:55,520
Speaker 1: likely for San Francisco. As we tape this, Jimmy G

897
00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:58,759
Speaker 1: as in practice. Yet it is pretty. It is interesting.

898
00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:00,640
Speaker 1: This is this is a pretty It's a lot more

899
00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:02,560
Speaker 1: interesting than I would have expected this game to be

900
00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:05,440
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago. I think this is wild.

901
00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:10,360
Speaker 1: I think it's uh. I think this tray Lance situation.

902
00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:13,919
Speaker 1: Now as we record this, Jimmy G didn't rule out

903
00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:16,920
Speaker 1: playing on Tuesday, I believe or Wednesday, but he didn't

904
00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:20,880
Speaker 1: practice on Wednesday. I don't know if he has a

905
00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:23,680
Speaker 1: has a thumb injury, and and we we didn't talk

906
00:46:23,719 --> 00:46:26,640
Speaker 1: about that on Tuesday. Ligament his thumb, the U c

907
00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:28,759
Speaker 1: L and then a chipped bone in that thumb, so

908
00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:32,279
Speaker 1: the thumbs jacked up. Um. And it makes all the

909
00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:34,160
Speaker 1: sense in the world that you get to look at

910
00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:38,799
Speaker 1: Trey Lance here in a very favorable matchup. I think

911
00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:43,840
Speaker 1: it's what makes it fascinating is if Trey Lance, let's say, okay,

912
00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:48,920
Speaker 1: let's say Tray Lance starts against the Texans and runs

913
00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:55,680
Speaker 1: for ninety three yards and two touchdowns and completes his

914
00:46:55,719 --> 00:46:59,800
Speaker 1: passes for another touchdown, doesn't turn it over like after

915
00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:03,600
Speaker 1: what we've seen, and he electrifies the offense. Do you

916
00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:06,040
Speaker 1: do you then go back to Jimmy G to close

917
00:47:06,080 --> 00:47:10,680
Speaker 1: the season or will Kyle Shanahan will plant the seed

918
00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:13,080
Speaker 1: that keeps, that keeps Tray Lance maybe in the lineup.

919
00:47:13,160 --> 00:47:16,120
Speaker 1: Is that potentially in play? You think? I know has

920
00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:20,359
Speaker 1: ad moments this year, but it's a huge opportunity. I

921
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:23,600
Speaker 1: think Shanahan it's not like he'd be rooting for this,

922
00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:25,879
Speaker 1: clearly he Jimmy G was the guy who was going

923
00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:30,160
Speaker 1: for But I think he might be excited about this

924
00:47:30,239 --> 00:47:33,560
Speaker 1: opportunity because Tray Lance taking over in week sixteen is

925
00:47:33,640 --> 00:47:35,439
Speaker 1: not the same as Trai Lance taking over in week five.

926
00:47:35,560 --> 00:47:40,080
Speaker 1: Number one. They're healthier offensively, They're better offensively than they

927
00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:45,880
Speaker 1: were back then. Debo Auk is rolling Debo's healthy kittles healthy.

928
00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:47,960
Speaker 1: There were issues when Lance came in. He's also had

929
00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:49,799
Speaker 1: a chance to practice and be around and they said

930
00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:52,440
Speaker 1: he's looked great at practice, YadA YadA. But more than anything,

931
00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:56,400
Speaker 1: it's like they're springing something new on defensive coordinators here.

932
00:47:56,480 --> 00:47:59,120
Speaker 1: I think he would like that that if if they

933
00:47:59,120 --> 00:48:02,239
Speaker 1: can win this game tame clinch a playoff spot. They're

934
00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:04,479
Speaker 1: gonna play the Rams next week. That'll be a tough test.

935
00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:06,920
Speaker 1: Like whoever they play in the first round suddenly has

936
00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:09,080
Speaker 1: to prepare for Trey Lance. And if you get the

937
00:48:09,080 --> 00:48:11,520
Speaker 1: ball rolling downhill, they're they're not. I think they know

938
00:48:11,560 --> 00:48:13,640
Speaker 1: they're not winning a super Bowl with Jimmy g I

939
00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:16,799
Speaker 1: sort of expect at this point Trey Lance to be

940
00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:20,319
Speaker 1: their starting quarterback the rest of the year unless he's bad.

941
00:48:20,400 --> 00:48:22,279
Speaker 1: Unless he's bad, I have no idea how will play.

942
00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:25,200
Speaker 1: But if he plays well, I would assume they're just

943
00:48:25,239 --> 00:48:27,040
Speaker 1: gonna go with it. Well, that's why it makes it

944
00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:30,880
Speaker 1: such a fascinating situation now and now factor this in Greg,

945
00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:35,399
Speaker 1: because this is really a huge storyline here. Um, I'm

946
00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:40,120
Speaker 1: in my fantasy championship okay back in August. Uh and

947
00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:42,160
Speaker 1: it's your fault. But you know what, I shouldn't have

948
00:48:42,200 --> 00:48:45,040
Speaker 1: been so um My ears should have been more closed.

949
00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:46,960
Speaker 1: I should have made my own decisions. You were so

950
00:48:47,080 --> 00:48:49,360
Speaker 1: high on Lance, Well, I hope you listened to my

951
00:48:49,400 --> 00:48:52,960
Speaker 1: decision to play Damien Harris over Michael Carter in the semifinals.

952
00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:57,120
Speaker 1: That decisn't worked out pretty well. How about job thank

953
00:48:57,160 --> 00:48:59,360
Speaker 1: you on that, although Michael Carter did have about hundred

954
00:48:59,360 --> 00:49:04,040
Speaker 1: and forty yards and there's someone else involved to a J. Dillon. Yeah. Yeah,

955
00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:08,279
Speaker 1: So I took Trey Lance in the fifth round of

956
00:49:08,520 --> 00:49:12,400
Speaker 1: Fantasy Draft in August. Okay, I also took Christian McCaffrey

957
00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:14,440
Speaker 1: and new Copkins, and yet here I am in the finals.

958
00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:17,399
Speaker 1: What a story this has been. But I I held

959
00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:20,280
Speaker 1: on to him for two months, waiting for the moment

960
00:49:20,360 --> 00:49:23,399
Speaker 1: where Kyle would say, let's do this thing, let's roll,

961
00:49:23,719 --> 00:49:25,400
Speaker 1: and it just never happened. I think it was one

962
00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:27,520
Speaker 1: of the more surprising aspects of the season to me

963
00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:31,160
Speaker 1: that Jimmy g hung on to the job. So what

964
00:49:31,200 --> 00:49:33,600
Speaker 1: did I do? I picked him up off waivers and

965
00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:36,839
Speaker 1: I got I'm a little heat check Reggy sliding Tray

966
00:49:36,920 --> 00:49:40,719
Speaker 1: Lance into him as my second quarterback. Uh well, I

967
00:49:40,760 --> 00:49:43,880
Speaker 1: don't really have a second quarterback this season, but Taysom

968
00:49:43,960 --> 00:49:48,040
Speaker 1: Hill or Tyler Huntley, those are options. Huntley is a

969
00:49:48,080 --> 00:49:50,719
Speaker 1: pretty good option. Yeah, I mean he's been like when

970
00:49:50,719 --> 00:49:53,960
Speaker 1: he started, he's been like a top ten but sometimes

971
00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:56,880
Speaker 1: but yes, I like I like the way the cosmos

972
00:49:56,880 --> 00:49:59,239
Speaker 1: have lined up here this season. For me, I feel

973
00:49:59,280 --> 00:50:02,040
Speaker 1: like the football g the fantasy gods are saying, all right,

974
00:50:02,360 --> 00:50:05,239
Speaker 1: we know you you wanted this. Here he is in

975
00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:09,960
Speaker 1: Championship week against the Texans. Is it gonna happen? I

976
00:50:10,040 --> 00:50:11,880
Speaker 1: don't know, but we'll see. I think it's just exciting

977
00:50:11,920 --> 00:50:15,600
Speaker 1: forget about mostly focused on my fantasy matchup everybody, but

978
00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:17,880
Speaker 1: also on what it could mean to the in the

979
00:50:17,960 --> 00:50:21,399
Speaker 1: NFC if Trey Lance balls out, if even plays. Yes,

980
00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:23,240
Speaker 1: I don't know if I like them better than Huntley,

981
00:50:23,239 --> 00:50:26,360
Speaker 1: though I'm on the record there Huntly okay, But I

982
00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:29,959
Speaker 1: think the Texans defense has been sneaky solid. I would

983
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:32,839
Speaker 1: say for about half the season. The last half, they've

984
00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:36,799
Speaker 1: been solid. They're a mid level defense in general. I

985
00:50:36,840 --> 00:50:41,640
Speaker 1: think I don't because I did. I did kind of

986
00:50:41,719 --> 00:50:45,320
Speaker 1: positive early in the UH during the summer that David

987
00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:47,680
Speaker 1: Culley was being asked to rearrange the deck chairs on

988
00:50:47,719 --> 00:50:50,360
Speaker 1: the Titanic and would be swept out. I would be

989
00:50:50,440 --> 00:50:52,520
Speaker 1: very surprised if Culley didn't come back next year. I

990
00:50:52,520 --> 00:50:56,200
Speaker 1: think they've liked Dan Campbell has made the most of

991
00:50:56,239 --> 00:50:58,960
Speaker 1: a little they've They've won the same amount of games

992
00:50:58,960 --> 00:51:02,000
Speaker 1: this year with Mills and Tyrode as they did last

993
00:51:02,040 --> 00:51:05,600
Speaker 1: year with Deshaun Watson. How about that. Yeah, that's pretty

994
00:51:05,680 --> 00:51:09,360
Speaker 1: that's pretty crazy. All right, let's move on. Now heads

995
00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:12,840
Speaker 1: to me. I want to grab a Lake game, but

996
00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:16,400
Speaker 1: they're both very bad, so I'm gonna I'm gonna slide

997
00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:19,840
Speaker 1: my eyes away from that and back into the early window.

998
00:51:20,080 --> 00:51:24,800
Speaker 1: And why don't we go and get um Las Vegas

999
00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:35,319
Speaker 1: at cults. The cults are all right. Congratulations Raiders. No

1000
00:51:35,360 --> 00:51:38,239
Speaker 1: matter what happens in these last two weeks, people won't

1001
00:51:38,280 --> 00:51:41,440
Speaker 1: be able to say you completely collapsed at the end

1002
00:51:41,480 --> 00:51:43,640
Speaker 1: of the season, even if you lose these last two games.

1003
00:51:43,719 --> 00:51:47,960
Speaker 1: I feel like they're in a little bit fitting considering

1004
00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:49,400
Speaker 1: the city they play, and it's a little bit of

1005
00:51:49,440 --> 00:51:52,280
Speaker 1: a house money situation for the Raiders. Now they've staved

1006
00:51:52,320 --> 00:51:55,279
Speaker 1: off a really ugly and to their season. They won

1007
00:51:55,360 --> 00:51:58,640
Speaker 1: these back to back December games by narrow margins to

1008
00:51:58,719 --> 00:52:02,279
Speaker 1: keep themselves in the playoff race. They beat playoff contenders

1009
00:52:02,960 --> 00:52:05,440
Speaker 1: to get back to eight and seven. Now they go

1010
00:52:05,480 --> 00:52:09,359
Speaker 1: to Indie and again, welcome to the two thousand one

1011
00:52:09,440 --> 00:52:13,080
Speaker 1: NFL season. As we tape this, Carson Wentz is in

1012
00:52:13,120 --> 00:52:18,040
Speaker 1: the COVID nineteen protocol, but they did change those rules,

1013
00:52:18,400 --> 00:52:21,320
Speaker 1: so if he is not positive and I don't unless

1014
00:52:21,360 --> 00:52:23,360
Speaker 1: I miss something. I haven't heard anything that he was

1015
00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:27,880
Speaker 1: actually he had COVID nineteen. You know, they did confirm

1016
00:52:27,960 --> 00:52:30,480
Speaker 1: he had it, but he does have to show no symptoms,

1017
00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:34,160
Speaker 1: so he'll get activated on Saturday. Don't get excited because

1018
00:52:34,160 --> 00:52:37,319
Speaker 1: they have to officially activate him regardless. So they will

1019
00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:40,000
Speaker 1: do that almost certainly unless he's definitely out. But then

1020
00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:43,400
Speaker 1: a doctor has to check him on Sunday morning and

1021
00:52:43,400 --> 00:52:45,920
Speaker 1: like say, okay, you don't have symptoms and clear him.

1022
00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:49,120
Speaker 1: So that's the process according to UH Stephen Holder of

1023
00:52:49,160 --> 00:52:52,560
Speaker 1: the Athletic And of course he's he's not vaccinated Carson Wentz.

1024
00:52:52,560 --> 00:52:55,719
Speaker 1: So the chances that he does have lingering symptoms are

1025
00:52:56,239 --> 00:52:59,240
Speaker 1: greater than if he would have gotten the j ab.

1026
00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:03,000
Speaker 1: So I think there's a wide assumption here. Now I've been,

1027
00:53:03,400 --> 00:53:05,440
Speaker 1: you know, reading in different places that he will be

1028
00:53:05,480 --> 00:53:08,040
Speaker 1: playing Sunday. But we'll see because he might be dealing

1029
00:53:08,040 --> 00:53:11,640
Speaker 1: with symptoms that are more serious or lingering than someone

1030
00:53:11,680 --> 00:53:14,320
Speaker 1: who went and UH went with the side of science.

1031
00:53:14,320 --> 00:53:16,960
Speaker 1: So here we are now with the situation where it

1032
00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:19,479
Speaker 1: could be Matt Ellinger. It's not going to be card,

1033
00:53:19,600 --> 00:53:23,200
Speaker 1: it's not going to be your boy Philip Rivers Greg.

1034
00:53:23,640 --> 00:53:26,279
Speaker 1: But this changes something. This changes a lot for the

1035
00:53:26,360 --> 00:53:30,120
Speaker 1: Raiders potentially, who might have looked into a golden opportunity here.

1036
00:53:30,120 --> 00:53:32,600
Speaker 1: But we will find out right and everyone just kind

1037
00:53:32,600 --> 00:53:35,000
Speaker 1: of assumes the culture in the playoffs just because they're

1038
00:53:35,040 --> 00:53:38,479
Speaker 1: so good. But if they lost this game with sam

1039
00:53:38,480 --> 00:53:42,439
Speaker 1: Ellinger's it's it's suddenly back up for grabs here, which

1040
00:53:42,480 --> 00:53:45,120
Speaker 1: is which is crazy for them going into Week eighteen.

1041
00:53:45,160 --> 00:53:47,120
Speaker 1: I actually think they could win a game the Colts

1042
00:53:47,480 --> 00:53:50,560
Speaker 1: with Sam Ellinger, even though I have a lot of

1043
00:53:50,600 --> 00:53:55,480
Speaker 1: concerns about sam Ellinger. I I would guess the Colts

1044
00:53:55,880 --> 00:53:58,359
Speaker 1: would go from being about a six point favorite, which

1045
00:53:58,400 --> 00:54:00,959
Speaker 1: is what they are now six and a half off too,

1046
00:54:01,640 --> 00:54:04,120
Speaker 1: like a two point favorite. They still two or three.

1047
00:54:04,160 --> 00:54:07,200
Speaker 1: They still will be favored in the desert. To me,

1048
00:54:07,280 --> 00:54:09,239
Speaker 1: it would be more of a coin flip. But I

1049
00:54:09,320 --> 00:54:11,719
Speaker 1: think the reason why it would they'd have a real chance,

1050
00:54:11,760 --> 00:54:14,000
Speaker 1: not just because the running game is so good, um,

1051
00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:16,960
Speaker 1: but because their defense is is solid and I think

1052
00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:20,160
Speaker 1: all it takes right now is a solid defense to

1053
00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:23,520
Speaker 1: keep the Raiders under about seventeen points. There's no Darren Waller.

1054
00:54:23,760 --> 00:54:25,960
Speaker 1: He started practice, he was gonna practice, and then he

1055
00:54:26,040 --> 00:54:28,120
Speaker 1: got COVID nineteen. So he's back from the injury, and

1056
00:54:28,120 --> 00:54:30,480
Speaker 1: then he got COVID nineteen and it happened so late

1057
00:54:30,480 --> 00:54:32,480
Speaker 1: in the week. I'm pretty sure he is out out

1058
00:54:32,840 --> 00:54:35,600
Speaker 1: and so it's gonna be tough for me. I to

1059
00:54:35,680 --> 00:54:38,120
Speaker 1: imagine that the Raiders like run away with this game.

1060
00:54:38,160 --> 00:54:41,839
Speaker 1: If it's Ellinger's starting, probably went though, right, I mean,

1061
00:54:41,840 --> 00:54:45,040
Speaker 1: it's probably went, probably, But again, because he's not vaccident,

1062
00:54:45,080 --> 00:54:47,040
Speaker 1: you don't know like where her symptoms are at and

1063
00:54:47,040 --> 00:54:51,000
Speaker 1: their probably or even you know what, we know vaccinated

1064
00:54:51,040 --> 00:54:54,080
Speaker 1: people who are feeling symptoms five days deep into this,

1065
00:54:54,120 --> 00:54:56,200
Speaker 1: and we've heard from NFL players that have I think

1066
00:54:56,200 --> 00:54:59,319
Speaker 1: it's the exception, but um, what my point is that

1067
00:54:59,760 --> 00:55:01,880
Speaker 1: you we don't know anything that you could definitely be

1068
00:55:01,960 --> 00:55:05,560
Speaker 1: having symptoms five or there's another component to this because

1069
00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:08,600
Speaker 1: and this is not speaking you know, for the NFL

1070
00:55:08,600 --> 00:55:11,040
Speaker 1: on any level, but THEFL is just trying to survive

1071
00:55:11,120 --> 00:55:13,560
Speaker 1: now and get through the season, and they they've relaxed

1072
00:55:13,600 --> 00:55:16,040
Speaker 1: these rules to get guys back on the field. I

1073
00:55:16,080 --> 00:55:18,960
Speaker 1: don't know, like is there you don't have to pass

1074
00:55:18,960 --> 00:55:21,040
Speaker 1: a test right to get back on You just have

1075
00:55:21,120 --> 00:55:26,600
Speaker 1: to clear some type of medical protocol. It just feels like, well,

1076
00:55:26,640 --> 00:55:29,640
Speaker 1: I think that's a fair fair point. It basically, you're

1077
00:55:29,680 --> 00:55:33,960
Speaker 1: supposed to be asymptomatic and the doctor is gonna check

1078
00:55:34,040 --> 00:55:38,560
Speaker 1: on you, but you don't have to doctor. No. No.

1079
00:55:38,719 --> 00:55:41,840
Speaker 1: In fact, there's a lot of I think um players.

1080
00:55:42,080 --> 00:55:44,400
Speaker 1: You know, we saw all these players come off the

1081
00:55:44,400 --> 00:55:47,040
Speaker 1: COVID list in mass this week and they it's not

1082
00:55:47,080 --> 00:55:49,400
Speaker 1: like they were necessarily testing positive or negative. They were

1083
00:55:49,440 --> 00:55:51,719
Speaker 1: just where they had done their five days. So we're

1084
00:55:51,719 --> 00:55:56,400
Speaker 1: all grown ups here. If if he's not ill, um

1085
00:55:56,440 --> 00:56:00,239
Speaker 1: and the cults, doctor Uh has to decide whether he's

1086
00:56:00,239 --> 00:56:02,439
Speaker 1: playing or not. And the Colts really need to win

1087
00:56:02,520 --> 00:56:06,400
Speaker 1: because they they're in the playoffs with a win. Yeah,

1088
00:56:06,520 --> 00:56:09,880
Speaker 1: unless he's really under the weather, we'll see, we shall see.

1089
00:56:11,000 --> 00:56:15,319
Speaker 1: What a world? What a world? The Colts uh three

1090
00:56:15,360 --> 00:56:18,000
Speaker 1: game winning streak, they won six of seven. They clinch

1091
00:56:18,040 --> 00:56:21,040
Speaker 1: a playoff spot with a win, and they're one game

1092
00:56:21,080 --> 00:56:25,080
Speaker 1: behind Tennessee. Tennessee obviously owns tiebreaker because they head to head,

1093
00:56:25,360 --> 00:56:28,080
Speaker 1: So Tennessee wins one game or the Colts lose one game,

1094
00:56:28,360 --> 00:56:30,719
Speaker 1: Tennessee wins the division. But there is even a possibility

1095
00:56:30,760 --> 00:56:33,359
Speaker 1: that Colts win out Tennessee loses out. The Colts win

1096
00:56:33,400 --> 00:56:36,680
Speaker 1: the division, but the Jaguars around the Tennessee schedule. Don't

1097
00:56:36,719 --> 00:56:45,600
Speaker 1: forget all right now, Snakes to me, Yeah, shoot, oh no,

1098
00:56:45,800 --> 00:56:47,600
Speaker 1: I gotta I'm gonna have to grab one of these

1099
00:56:47,680 --> 00:56:51,759
Speaker 1: late games. You might as well pick the one you want.

1100
00:56:51,880 --> 00:56:55,440
Speaker 1: There's two lesser games. I know your style though, You're

1101
00:56:55,440 --> 00:56:58,359
Speaker 1: just gonna be watching Cardinals Cowboys anyways, along along with

1102
00:56:58,400 --> 00:57:01,000
Speaker 1: your game. You know, you get to be professional. That's fine,

1103
00:57:01,160 --> 00:57:03,759
Speaker 1: you're the host. That makes sense. I gotta have my

1104
00:57:03,800 --> 00:57:06,959
Speaker 1: eyes on these big games, all right. Let me grab, Yeah,

1105
00:57:06,960 --> 00:57:10,719
Speaker 1: I'll grab. I'll watch Sam Donald against the Saints. What

1106
00:57:10,760 --> 00:57:15,560
Speaker 1: the hell has playoff implications? Saints? Saints are a lot more.

1107
00:57:15,600 --> 00:57:17,520
Speaker 1: They're kind of the one team. I think people don't

1108
00:57:17,520 --> 00:57:20,200
Speaker 1: realize they're very much alive. They are alive. They're very

1109
00:57:20,240 --> 00:57:23,040
Speaker 1: much alive. Yeah, so you have Sam Donald is now

1110
00:57:23,040 --> 00:57:26,720
Speaker 1: the starter once again for the Panthers. Cam Newton sounded

1111
00:57:26,760 --> 00:57:28,720
Speaker 1: like a guy who might even be ready for retirement

1112
00:57:28,800 --> 00:57:31,880
Speaker 1: and his postgame comments comments this week, so we'll see

1113
00:57:31,920 --> 00:57:34,320
Speaker 1: where Cam's future is. But it's not on the field

1114
00:57:34,400 --> 00:57:38,480
Speaker 1: unless Donald gets hurt. Here, Um, we know where Caroline is.

1115
00:57:38,520 --> 00:57:40,360
Speaker 1: They're playing out the string with a lot of questions

1116
00:57:40,360 --> 00:57:43,760
Speaker 1: once the season ends. The Saints, on the other hand, UM,

1117
00:57:43,960 --> 00:57:46,320
Speaker 1: Greg has time to do our our weekly check in

1118
00:57:46,400 --> 00:57:51,600
Speaker 1: what's going on with their offensive tackles. I don't think

1119
00:57:51,640 --> 00:57:54,920
Speaker 1: they're back. I don't think they're back ram checking Armstead.

1120
00:57:54,960 --> 00:57:57,160
Speaker 1: I should have I should have had that ready. All right, Well,

1121
00:57:57,200 --> 00:58:00,520
Speaker 1: maybe while I pump up this game, maybe an injury

1122
00:58:00,520 --> 00:58:03,080
Speaker 1: poor Let's see where they're at, because obviously that matters.

1123
00:58:03,120 --> 00:58:05,720
Speaker 1: I thought it was really difficult to watch. First, I'll

1124
00:58:05,720 --> 00:58:09,720
Speaker 1: Taysom Hill activated off COVID, so I think Trevor Simeon

1125
00:58:09,800 --> 00:58:14,560
Speaker 1: as well. So thankfully Ian Book back to third string,

1126
00:58:15,160 --> 00:58:19,520
Speaker 1: and um, if anybody deserves to make good from the football,

1127
00:58:19,560 --> 00:58:21,600
Speaker 1: gots Ian Book down the line. Okay, a couple of

1128
00:58:21,640 --> 00:58:23,760
Speaker 1: years and now maybe something really he gets in a

1129
00:58:23,760 --> 00:58:26,400
Speaker 1: Monday night game or something, and and there's something dramatic

1130
00:58:26,440 --> 00:58:28,920
Speaker 1: happens and he gets to get interviewed after the game.

1131
00:58:29,080 --> 00:58:32,840
Speaker 1: Good luck to you, Ian Book, Notre Dame. So you're

1132
00:58:32,840 --> 00:58:35,080
Speaker 1: probably gonna have Taysom Hill back, who's not very good,

1133
00:58:35,200 --> 00:58:36,880
Speaker 1: but he's better than Ian Book at this stage of

1134
00:58:36,920 --> 00:58:39,080
Speaker 1: his career. Alvin Camaro I thought was very it was

1135
00:58:39,160 --> 00:58:44,160
Speaker 1: very hard watching that game. Um, an overmatched Saints offense

1136
00:58:44,200 --> 00:58:46,440
Speaker 1: with a rookie quarterback and Camaro just hung out to

1137
00:58:46,520 --> 00:58:49,320
Speaker 1: dry with a bad offensive line, no quarterback play, no

1138
00:58:49,400 --> 00:58:52,560
Speaker 1: wide receiver help really on the outside. UM. And it

1139
00:58:52,640 --> 00:58:54,439
Speaker 1: was just kind of depressing because you know how good

1140
00:58:54,480 --> 00:58:57,680
Speaker 1: he is to be stuck in an offense like this. Uh.

1141
00:58:57,720 --> 00:59:01,600
Speaker 1: So I think they could take advantage of a Carolina

1142
00:59:01,640 --> 00:59:04,240
Speaker 1: team that's just kind of regressed across the board as

1143
00:59:04,240 --> 00:59:06,919
Speaker 1: the season has gone on. UM. But do I think

1144
00:59:07,080 --> 00:59:09,960
Speaker 1: this is a lock it up, easy win for the Saints.

1145
00:59:10,000 --> 00:59:13,080
Speaker 1: I don't think that exists with the Saints team. I agree,

1146
00:59:13,200 --> 00:59:15,040
Speaker 1: and yet it's almost out of the lock zone. It

1147
00:59:15,120 --> 00:59:17,560
Speaker 1: might be they were a touchdown favorite in this game.

1148
00:59:17,600 --> 00:59:21,840
Speaker 1: That is how little faith anyone has in this Panther's

1149
00:59:21,880 --> 00:59:25,040
Speaker 1: team right now. Because they have COVID issues that they

1150
00:59:25,080 --> 00:59:27,280
Speaker 1: had a lot of players put on Monday, another thing

1151
00:59:27,320 --> 00:59:30,200
Speaker 1: where some could come off. They're also short their left

1152
00:59:30,200 --> 00:59:33,840
Speaker 1: tackle cam Irving Stephon Gilmour got hurt uh last week

1153
00:59:33,880 --> 00:59:36,120
Speaker 1: and isn't gonna play. I'd be surprised if he played

1154
00:59:36,160 --> 00:59:40,040
Speaker 1: again uh this season. But one thing that is in

1155
00:59:40,080 --> 00:59:42,240
Speaker 1: my mind, at least when it comes to this matchup,

1156
00:59:42,280 --> 00:59:45,400
Speaker 1: because you know it's the same, it's the same personnel,

1157
00:59:45,440 --> 00:59:48,080
Speaker 1: except it's worse in New Orleans. Is that the Panthers

1158
00:59:48,280 --> 00:59:50,640
Speaker 1: destroyed the Saints in Week two. It was definitely that

1159
00:59:50,680 --> 00:59:53,680
Speaker 1: I would say the high play. Are we even talking

1160
00:59:53,680 --> 00:59:56,600
Speaker 1: about this? I'm just saying they killed them. It was

1161
00:59:56,680 --> 00:59:59,120
Speaker 1: like I couldn't believe it. It was a blood bath,

1162
01:00:00,080 --> 01:00:03,800
Speaker 1: especially defensively. So a lot of those defensive guys for

1163
01:00:03,840 --> 01:00:06,200
Speaker 1: Carolina is still there, and I would think they'd have

1164
01:00:06,360 --> 01:00:08,440
Speaker 1: a chance to keep it close. But it's hard to

1165
01:00:08,480 --> 01:00:11,160
Speaker 1: imagine Sam Donald scoring a lot of points here. Sam

1166
01:00:11,200 --> 01:00:14,000
Speaker 1: Donald did not look any different or better last week

1167
01:00:14,080 --> 01:00:16,080
Speaker 1: in that game. He took some bad sacks. It was

1168
01:00:16,360 --> 01:00:18,479
Speaker 1: It's a tough scene though, like they never they haven't

1169
01:00:18,520 --> 01:00:21,680
Speaker 1: fixed their offensive line problems where they just like can't

1170
01:00:21,720 --> 01:00:26,000
Speaker 1: handle stunts. It's like the same problem every week. Opposing

1171
01:00:26,040 --> 01:00:28,560
Speaker 1: teams just do games up front and the guards and

1172
01:00:28,840 --> 01:00:31,120
Speaker 1: Carolina have no idea what to do in free rushers

1173
01:00:31,160 --> 01:00:33,080
Speaker 1: come in and it's like, I don't think that's really

1174
01:00:33,080 --> 01:00:36,320
Speaker 1: on the quarterback. That's on coaching, Like it's been a

1175
01:00:36,320 --> 01:00:38,760
Speaker 1: bad season for Matt Rule, but not fixing your problems,

1176
01:00:38,800 --> 01:00:40,760
Speaker 1: that's like that's like a sign of bad coaching. Being

1177
01:00:40,800 --> 01:00:43,560
Speaker 1: a touchdown underdog to this Saints team also a sign

1178
01:00:43,600 --> 01:00:47,160
Speaker 1: of bad coaching, right, obviously everyone's down in the Panthers. Yeah,

1179
01:00:47,160 --> 01:00:49,720
Speaker 1: when Donald came in and I thought that was madness

1180
01:00:49,760 --> 01:00:53,360
Speaker 1: watching the game on Monday, the way they just kept

1181
01:00:53,360 --> 01:00:57,440
Speaker 1: on rule, kept on swapping him and Sam Donald was like,

1182
01:00:57,480 --> 01:01:00,840
Speaker 1: what are we doing here? And Cam can't get anything going.

1183
01:01:00,840 --> 01:01:03,480
Speaker 1: And then Donald he's got people in his face immediately

1184
01:01:03,520 --> 01:01:05,440
Speaker 1: and he's thrown short of the sticks at the turf

1185
01:01:05,480 --> 01:01:07,680
Speaker 1: and it's just like, oh my god, this is impossible,

1186
01:01:08,280 --> 01:01:11,840
Speaker 1: uh to watch. But New Orleans will have a pulse

1187
01:01:11,960 --> 01:01:14,440
Speaker 1: if they can take care of business. All right, it's

1188
01:01:14,440 --> 01:01:17,360
Speaker 1: a Mark Sessler pick now, Um, let's give him because

1189
01:01:17,360 --> 01:01:19,560
Speaker 1: I know you're sorry to cut you off. And it

1190
01:01:19,640 --> 01:01:21,600
Speaker 1: just makes me laugh that every time I see how

1191
01:01:21,640 --> 01:01:25,120
Speaker 1: bad Cam Newton's playing, I picture a text coming in

1192
01:01:25,160 --> 01:01:27,440
Speaker 1: from West before I even sent it that says, we

1193
01:01:27,560 --> 01:01:30,760
Speaker 1: know you think Cam Newton sucks. He will send that.

1194
01:01:31,160 --> 01:01:33,040
Speaker 1: He would send that all the time, so I always smile.

1195
01:01:33,320 --> 01:01:37,040
Speaker 1: You never let Cam off the hook for his misogynistic

1196
01:01:37,080 --> 01:01:41,960
Speaker 1: comment about what was it a female reporter watching was

1197
01:01:42,000 --> 01:01:45,600
Speaker 1: so blown away? Yeah, that was I understand you are

1198
01:01:45,840 --> 01:01:49,800
Speaker 1: you're of the female species. But I could look past

1199
01:01:49,800 --> 01:01:54,320
Speaker 1: it if he was better, but he sucks. You could

1200
01:01:54,320 --> 01:01:57,360
Speaker 1: have that if Cam Newton was two thousand fifteen Cam Newton,

1201
01:01:57,520 --> 01:02:00,480
Speaker 1: you would have been agreeing with his take something. I'd

1202
01:02:00,520 --> 01:02:03,280
Speaker 1: be like, get that female out of the room, get

1203
01:02:03,280 --> 01:02:06,520
Speaker 1: that member of the species away out. Um. But he

1204
01:02:06,560 --> 01:02:08,560
Speaker 1: wasn't very good on the Patriots, and he wasn't very

1205
01:02:08,600 --> 01:02:11,600
Speaker 1: good on the panel and five. In fact, I didn't

1206
01:02:11,640 --> 01:02:13,800
Speaker 1: think it would go that he's been. He's been. I

1207
01:02:13,840 --> 01:02:16,160
Speaker 1: think he can be a good backup. He has run

1208
01:02:16,200 --> 01:02:18,880
Speaker 1: a lot. It hasn't been great, but I I've seen

1209
01:02:18,920 --> 01:02:21,440
Speaker 1: worse backups for sure out there. It's a matter of

1210
01:02:21,440 --> 01:02:24,280
Speaker 1: whether he wants to do it. But the Sandwich wager,

1211
01:02:24,280 --> 01:02:25,800
Speaker 1: because this has come up a couple of times now,

1212
01:02:25,840 --> 01:02:28,200
Speaker 1: I don't think Kim is interested in playing the backup

1213
01:02:28,240 --> 01:02:30,520
Speaker 1: game for a couple of years. That's what I thought about.

1214
01:02:30,560 --> 01:02:37,200
Speaker 1: Like Flacco too, who similar similar Obviously, I just thought

1215
01:02:37,240 --> 01:02:39,160
Speaker 1: that they would be done. They've both made a lot

1216
01:02:39,160 --> 01:02:40,680
Speaker 1: of money. They've been at the top of the game

1217
01:02:40,720 --> 01:02:43,479
Speaker 1: in terms of contracts and whining in, you know, making

1218
01:02:43,480 --> 01:02:45,520
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl winning UM, and I just didn't think

1219
01:02:45,520 --> 01:02:49,080
Speaker 1: they would have the desire to Cam is ready to

1220
01:02:49,120 --> 01:02:52,200
Speaker 1: start a line or something. I think, Kim, I'm not

1221
01:02:52,320 --> 01:02:54,600
Speaker 1: getting a sandwich on it, but I think if he

1222
01:02:54,720 --> 01:02:57,200
Speaker 1: wanted to play, he could he could keep playing. As

1223
01:02:57,240 --> 01:03:00,640
Speaker 1: my point, Yeah, not a lot of rate tape here,

1224
01:03:00,640 --> 01:03:02,360
Speaker 1: but he can still move obviously and was a red

1225
01:03:02,440 --> 01:03:04,600
Speaker 1: zone threat. You're right, alright, Pauls right there, Let's take

1226
01:03:04,600 --> 01:03:08,320
Speaker 1: a break. We'll be right back. Mark. Perfect game from Mark.

1227
01:03:08,360 --> 01:03:10,640
Speaker 1: I feel like we know Mark so well because sometimes

1228
01:03:10,680 --> 01:03:13,160
Speaker 1: he's a little predictable in certain ways when it comes

1229
01:03:13,200 --> 01:03:18,240
Speaker 1: to his football analysis. That he wants he needs one

1230
01:03:18,280 --> 01:03:23,480
Speaker 1: of Jacksonville Patriots game. He wants that because he loves

1231
01:03:23,480 --> 01:03:27,600
Speaker 1: Belichick more than anyone on the podcast. I firmly believe

1232
01:03:27,680 --> 01:03:33,320
Speaker 1: that I love and and uh so he wants after

1233
01:03:33,480 --> 01:03:37,160
Speaker 1: Belichick got humbled by the Bills last week, just that

1234
01:03:37,280 --> 01:03:40,320
Speaker 1: he wants to watch one of those classic like to

1235
01:03:40,520 --> 01:03:44,960
Speaker 1: three Patriots games where the opposing young quarterback is seeing

1236
01:03:45,000 --> 01:03:47,800
Speaker 1: ghosts and they're getting to do anything they want. Josh

1237
01:03:47,880 --> 01:03:53,240
Speaker 1: McDaniels calls a wide receiver option pass for fifty yards score,

1238
01:03:53,320 --> 01:03:56,000
Speaker 1: like one of those games where New England is just

1239
01:03:56,120 --> 01:03:58,280
Speaker 1: having the times of the time of their life. It's

1240
01:03:58,280 --> 01:04:01,640
Speaker 1: at Foxboro and the guys are shooting the stupid Muskets

1241
01:04:01,720 --> 01:04:06,360
Speaker 1: and everyone is having a grand old time in New

1242
01:04:06,400 --> 01:04:09,480
Speaker 1: England like that's that's coming, and I think it it

1243
01:04:09,480 --> 01:04:11,560
Speaker 1: will be good for them. This is a perfect time

1244
01:04:11,640 --> 01:04:13,680
Speaker 1: for the Patriots who are licking their wounds a little

1245
01:04:13,680 --> 01:04:17,200
Speaker 1: bit after back to back very tough losses to a

1246
01:04:17,280 --> 01:04:20,360
Speaker 1: f C contenders that I think, uh, And sure, call

1247
01:04:20,400 --> 01:04:22,880
Speaker 1: me Patriots hater, I don't care. I think what those

1248
01:04:22,920 --> 01:04:26,720
Speaker 1: two losses did for me. It kind of slotted them

1249
01:04:26,720 --> 01:04:29,240
Speaker 1: in where I think they've always have been, which is

1250
01:04:29,400 --> 01:04:32,720
Speaker 1: they're a good team. They're a wonderfully coached team. They

1251
01:04:32,720 --> 01:04:35,200
Speaker 1: have some real pieces on both sides of the ball.

1252
01:04:35,360 --> 01:04:38,520
Speaker 1: The rookie quarterback can do some things even if he's

1253
01:04:38,520 --> 01:04:40,600
Speaker 1: come down to earth a little bit here. But they're

1254
01:04:40,640 --> 01:04:44,600
Speaker 1: step below the true a f C contenders. Uh. With

1255
01:04:44,720 --> 01:04:47,680
Speaker 1: that said, because there's such a good team with a

1256
01:04:47,680 --> 01:04:50,480
Speaker 1: great coaching step, they will eat the Jaguars alive in

1257
01:04:50,480 --> 01:04:52,760
Speaker 1: this game. There couldn't be a spread high enough. Uh.

1258
01:04:52,800 --> 01:04:56,280
Speaker 1: In my opinion for this game. I think that's all right.

1259
01:04:56,920 --> 01:05:00,000
Speaker 1: I agree with where you slot flotted the flopped them

1260
01:05:00,040 --> 01:05:02,160
Speaker 1: in the greater picture, it's kind of where I've thought

1261
01:05:02,200 --> 01:05:04,360
Speaker 1: they would be. You guys gotten on me for not

1262
01:05:04,680 --> 01:05:07,760
Speaker 1: going crazy about them, But I think that's good. I mean,

1263
01:05:07,800 --> 01:05:09,520
Speaker 1: if they win these last two games and they go

1264
01:05:09,600 --> 01:05:12,120
Speaker 1: eleven and six and they're like the sixth seed, I

1265
01:05:12,160 --> 01:05:15,040
Speaker 1: mean it going into the season, that would have been

1266
01:05:15,240 --> 01:05:17,280
Speaker 1: on the high end of I think what like you

1267
01:05:17,320 --> 01:05:21,000
Speaker 1: could have expected out of the Patriots that if they

1268
01:05:21,000 --> 01:05:25,280
Speaker 1: win and either Miami or Las Vegas loses, then they

1269
01:05:25,280 --> 01:05:27,920
Speaker 1: are in the playoffs because there is a doomsday scenario

1270
01:05:28,000 --> 01:05:30,680
Speaker 1: here where this game is a little closer than you

1271
01:05:30,720 --> 01:05:36,439
Speaker 1: think and the crowds getting grumbly and it's sloppy. I've

1272
01:05:36,480 --> 01:05:39,640
Speaker 1: just been disappointed, I guess would be the word. And

1273
01:05:39,680 --> 01:05:44,960
Speaker 1: how sloppy it's been. Penalties, miscommunications. We know they're a

1274
01:05:45,000 --> 01:05:48,640
Speaker 1: little slow on defense at times, lack of a pass rush,

1275
01:05:48,880 --> 01:05:51,480
Speaker 1: but a lot of mental errors. Their special teams, which

1276
01:05:51,520 --> 01:05:53,760
Speaker 1: is usually so good, has has had a lot of

1277
01:05:53,800 --> 01:05:57,440
Speaker 1: bad plays and so that's un characteristic of the Patriots,

1278
01:05:57,440 --> 01:06:00,400
Speaker 1: is kind of how they started the season. Two and um,

1279
01:06:00,440 --> 01:06:02,560
Speaker 1: they just have such a small margin for error in

1280
01:06:02,680 --> 01:06:05,800
Speaker 1: most weeks that they can't play like that and just

1281
01:06:06,200 --> 01:06:09,040
Speaker 1: reading between the lines and some of these press conferences.

1282
01:06:09,080 --> 01:06:12,640
Speaker 1: Matthew Slater was one. The annoy was another. I just

1283
01:06:13,160 --> 01:06:15,760
Speaker 1: what what is what is happening behind the scenes, because

1284
01:06:15,800 --> 01:06:19,720
Speaker 1: it just seems like there's some frustration with that. I

1285
01:06:19,760 --> 01:06:22,560
Speaker 1: don't know that some members aren't, you know, pulling in

1286
01:06:22,600 --> 01:06:24,760
Speaker 1: the same direction, and we're getting a lot of like

1287
01:06:24,920 --> 01:06:27,960
Speaker 1: unpatriot like sloppiness. Uh. This is more of like a

1288
01:06:28,000 --> 01:06:31,400
Speaker 1: local patriots be issue, um, but it's definitely something that

1289
01:06:31,480 --> 01:06:34,080
Speaker 1: I'm keeping an eye in. Wait, there are you think

1290
01:06:34,080 --> 01:06:36,200
Speaker 1: there's some discord in the lock I don't know. I

1291
01:06:36,200 --> 01:06:38,920
Speaker 1: don't know, or like that people were like celebrating too

1292
01:06:38,960 --> 01:06:42,960
Speaker 1: early with the after the Bills game. Not maybe not discord,

1293
01:06:43,080 --> 01:06:47,320
Speaker 1: but just like Slater said something about like getting everyone

1294
01:06:47,400 --> 01:06:51,760
Speaker 1: on the same page and that, and he's he's like

1295
01:06:51,880 --> 01:06:54,200
Speaker 1: the captain of this team, you know, he's the one

1296
01:06:54,240 --> 01:06:56,640
Speaker 1: that's been around the most, and that I think he

1297
01:06:56,720 --> 01:06:59,400
Speaker 1: said something. I think he said it with a purpose

1298
01:06:59,600 --> 01:07:01,720
Speaker 1: that Uh, I don't know what it means or what

1299
01:07:01,760 --> 01:07:04,680
Speaker 1: it is, but that the that what's going on here

1300
01:07:04,760 --> 01:07:08,560
Speaker 1: is not good, not great vibes, not great vibes. All right, Well,

1301
01:07:09,080 --> 01:07:11,600
Speaker 1: that's again a good reason to have the Jaguars come

1302
01:07:11,640 --> 01:07:14,320
Speaker 1: to town because winning will get everybody back to a

1303
01:07:14,360 --> 01:07:16,120
Speaker 1: good spot and they need a little confidence shot in

1304
01:07:16,160 --> 01:07:18,440
Speaker 1: the arm. Here. Um, I do see them as a

1305
01:07:18,440 --> 01:07:21,640
Speaker 1: playoff team. Um. Yeah. The doomsday scenario is lose to

1306
01:07:21,760 --> 01:07:24,960
Speaker 1: Jacksonville somehow and then get beat by the Dolphins and

1307
01:07:25,000 --> 01:07:28,640
Speaker 1: the Dolphins take your spot right right, or even beat

1308
01:07:28,760 --> 01:07:32,680
Speaker 1: Jacksonville and things work out. You know, the Raiders and

1309
01:07:32,680 --> 01:07:35,520
Speaker 1: the Dolphins win this week and then you lose next week,

1310
01:07:35,560 --> 01:07:38,040
Speaker 1: and there is absolutely a scenario you get knocked out

1311
01:07:38,080 --> 01:07:41,240
Speaker 1: then even at ten and seven. Uh, if the I'm

1312
01:07:41,280 --> 01:07:44,320
Speaker 1: trying to think which they have almost every tiebreaker, so

1313
01:07:44,520 --> 01:07:48,120
Speaker 1: it's it's complex which I forget which scenario, but they

1314
01:07:48,160 --> 01:07:50,640
Speaker 1: wouldn't be a winning in next I mean I'll lose

1315
01:07:50,800 --> 01:07:53,760
Speaker 1: an in all right, last game of the draft, the

1316
01:07:53,800 --> 01:07:58,560
Speaker 1: pick goes to you, all right, I'll take Uh, let's

1317
01:07:58,600 --> 01:08:01,920
Speaker 1: gonna take the Jets here, Um, do you want your Jets?

1318
01:08:01,960 --> 01:08:05,720
Speaker 1: I can leave that for you. It doesn't know, I'll

1319
01:08:05,800 --> 01:08:07,800
Speaker 1: leave it for you. I'll leave it for you. I'll

1320
01:08:07,840 --> 01:08:13,440
Speaker 1: take Um, I'll take Falcons Buffalo. Keep an eye on

1321
01:08:13,480 --> 01:08:15,600
Speaker 1: that Bill's game. Don't expect it to be too close.

1322
01:08:15,680 --> 01:08:19,360
Speaker 1: As my backup morning game, I was so impressed with

1323
01:08:19,360 --> 01:08:22,519
Speaker 1: what Josh Allen did last week. I thought I'd have

1324
01:08:22,560 --> 01:08:24,599
Speaker 1: to go through all the games, but I think it's

1325
01:08:24,640 --> 01:08:27,280
Speaker 1: on the short list of the best games any quarterbacks

1326
01:08:27,280 --> 01:08:32,360
Speaker 1: played all season. Uh. He just he was absolutely electric

1327
01:08:32,400 --> 01:08:38,439
Speaker 1: and almost perfect. I would say I can't imagine anyone Yes, um,

1328
01:08:38,479 --> 01:08:40,639
Speaker 1: and I hesitate to bring it up because I agree

1329
01:08:40,680 --> 01:08:42,800
Speaker 1: with you, and I thought he was electrifying in that game.

1330
01:08:42,840 --> 01:08:46,439
Speaker 1: But it is funny how the how the NFL works,

1331
01:08:46,439 --> 01:08:49,880
Speaker 1: how sports work. Man. He threw an interception on like

1332
01:08:49,920 --> 01:08:53,519
Speaker 1: the second play of that game, deciding drive. I think J. C.

1333
01:08:53,720 --> 01:08:55,439
Speaker 1: Jackson just holds onto the ball and threw it right

1334
01:08:55,439 --> 01:09:00,400
Speaker 1: into his hands, and it was like when back to

1335
01:09:00,439 --> 01:09:03,479
Speaker 1: Alan was like, throw it into my chest. He's like,

1336
01:09:03,520 --> 01:09:05,760
Speaker 1: what are you doing? You blew the game. But then

1337
01:09:05,840 --> 01:09:08,559
Speaker 1: to Alan's credit, he made the most of that second life.

1338
01:09:08,760 --> 01:09:11,320
Speaker 1: It makes you think of ELI and Super Bowl forty two.

1339
01:09:12,000 --> 01:09:15,040
Speaker 1: But I guess I've heard Patriots. You know that play

1340
01:09:15,080 --> 01:09:16,519
Speaker 1: has been brought up in New England this week, and

1341
01:09:16,520 --> 01:09:19,320
Speaker 1: that's fine. It's like if the Patriots scored there, It's

1342
01:09:19,360 --> 01:09:21,559
Speaker 1: like I would have expected the Bills to go score

1343
01:09:21,800 --> 01:09:25,240
Speaker 1: right back because they had the ball eight times. They

1344
01:09:25,280 --> 01:09:30,639
Speaker 1: scored every time. But don't get on. John isn't special,

1345
01:09:30,840 --> 01:09:32,840
Speaker 1: but the Bills aren't special. It's just pointing out that

1346
01:09:32,840 --> 01:09:35,760
Speaker 1: that these things that get overlook sometimes, right. He he

1347
01:09:35,840 --> 01:09:39,280
Speaker 1: had about thirty great plays and he just it was awesome.

1348
01:09:39,920 --> 01:09:43,479
Speaker 1: They should destroy the Falcons. I can't imagine it's been

1349
01:09:43,520 --> 01:09:47,400
Speaker 1: too often in NFL history that a team with seven

1350
01:09:47,400 --> 01:09:51,600
Speaker 1: wins is a two touchdown underdog here in Week seventeen,

1351
01:09:51,720 --> 01:09:54,840
Speaker 1: but that's that's the Falcons. They're two touchdown underdog. I mean,

1352
01:09:54,880 --> 01:09:56,760
Speaker 1: the Patriots were a two touch on underdog and the

1353
01:09:56,760 --> 01:09:59,800
Speaker 1: freaking Super Bowl, So I guess it happens. The Bills

1354
01:09:59,800 --> 01:10:04,040
Speaker 1: got beat by Urban Myers Jaguars, so as as well

1355
01:10:04,040 --> 01:10:06,840
Speaker 1: as they're playing right now, I suppose you could say

1356
01:10:06,880 --> 01:10:09,559
Speaker 1: there could be that somehow they come out flat in

1357
01:10:09,800 --> 01:10:12,679
Speaker 1: uh a game where they kind of look past the Falcons.

1358
01:10:12,680 --> 01:10:15,320
Speaker 1: And the Falcons, to their credit, they've hung around in

1359
01:10:15,400 --> 01:10:17,719
Speaker 1: a lot of games. Uh, they have a great record

1360
01:10:17,760 --> 01:10:20,800
Speaker 1: in close games. But at the same time, I'm with you.

1361
01:10:20,840 --> 01:10:23,479
Speaker 1: I think the more likely scenario is this game is

1362
01:10:23,920 --> 01:10:26,839
Speaker 1: one three in the second quarter. Yes, I I agree,

1363
01:10:26,840 --> 01:10:29,480
Speaker 1: and they're they're back. If you look at the preseason

1364
01:10:29,520 --> 01:10:31,400
Speaker 1: odds to win the a f C and the current

1365
01:10:31,439 --> 01:10:35,120
Speaker 1: odds Kansas City one and two in the preseason Kansas

1366
01:10:35,120 --> 01:10:38,640
Speaker 1: City and Buffalo one and two right now, Buffalo a

1367
01:10:38,680 --> 01:10:41,360
Speaker 1: little longer. But to me, they're like a veteran ish

1368
01:10:41,400 --> 01:10:44,240
Speaker 1: team that they know, like what's happened before sort of

1369
01:10:44,240 --> 01:10:46,440
Speaker 1: didn't matter. They just got to go beat these cupcakes

1370
01:10:46,479 --> 01:10:48,840
Speaker 1: here on the schedule, win the division, get a tour,

1371
01:10:48,960 --> 01:10:51,240
Speaker 1: a three seed, and they're right back where they wanted

1372
01:10:51,360 --> 01:10:55,080
Speaker 1: and they should do that. Um, all right, so there

1373
01:10:55,080 --> 01:10:59,400
Speaker 1: you go. Um, I didn't. I didn't break up my

1374
01:10:59,400 --> 01:11:03,640
Speaker 1: my Matt Iron. Take ahead, give us a take. Well,

1375
01:11:03,640 --> 01:11:06,120
Speaker 1: I just think he is the Dalton scale right now.

1376
01:11:06,880 --> 01:11:10,680
Speaker 1: He's the he's the median in which if you're above him,

1377
01:11:10,920 --> 01:11:13,120
Speaker 1: ah you've got a quarterback of year below him, you don't.

1378
01:11:13,439 --> 01:11:16,720
Speaker 1: He's the median right now. That's right now. I think

1379
01:11:16,760 --> 01:11:20,880
Speaker 1: that's fair. I think that's fair. I watched him every

1380
01:11:20,880 --> 01:11:22,800
Speaker 1: single week. He's the exact same every week. It's like

1381
01:11:22,800 --> 01:11:25,439
Speaker 1: it totally depends on who the opponent is. He'll have

1382
01:11:25,439 --> 01:11:27,439
Speaker 1: a He actually played very well against the Lions, but

1383
01:11:27,479 --> 01:11:29,200
Speaker 1: he will not play well again. He was the m

1384
01:11:29,280 --> 01:11:34,600
Speaker 1: v P four years ago or five years ago. Yeah, yeah,

1385
01:11:34,880 --> 01:11:37,240
Speaker 1: I guess he's following more of a natural career arc

1386
01:11:38,320 --> 01:11:40,799
Speaker 1: of guys, but in his prior generation, where he seems

1387
01:11:40,800 --> 01:11:43,960
Speaker 1: to be slipping in his mid thirties, we're honking too much.

1388
01:11:44,040 --> 01:11:46,559
Speaker 1: I shouldn't be throwing an extra points here, No, I was.

1389
01:11:46,680 --> 01:11:48,320
Speaker 1: I mean, I like the point. I think it's a

1390
01:11:48,320 --> 01:11:50,519
Speaker 1: fair point to make, and we'll be coming out with

1391
01:11:50,560 --> 01:11:52,839
Speaker 1: that episode a little bit later in the off season,

1392
01:11:53,560 --> 01:11:57,719
Speaker 1: the the updated Dalton Scale. All Right, draft over, close

1393
01:11:57,800 --> 01:11:59,200
Speaker 1: up the books. I think we did a good job

1394
01:11:59,200 --> 01:12:02,040
Speaker 1: with Mark there. I think he'll be happy. Miami and Tennessee,

1395
01:12:02,080 --> 01:12:04,519
Speaker 1: Houston and San Francisco, Jacksonville in New England. We know

1396
01:12:04,600 --> 01:12:09,080
Speaker 1: our boy, we know our guy. Mark his draft, it

1397
01:12:09,120 --> 01:12:13,240
Speaker 1: really was his draft. Yeah, well you got a buddy,

1398
01:12:13,960 --> 01:12:16,080
Speaker 1: you got it. All right, let's finish the rest of this.

1399
01:12:16,200 --> 01:12:20,519
Speaker 1: Let's start with UM. We'll start with the Jets and Tampa.

1400
01:12:20,600 --> 01:12:23,320
Speaker 1: I want to um say this and this should be

1401
01:12:23,360 --> 01:12:28,000
Speaker 1: a slaughter. Uh, Tampa Bay should have no problem um

1402
01:12:28,040 --> 01:12:32,280
Speaker 1: putting up points against the Jets. UM. Even then, there

1403
01:12:32,280 --> 01:12:36,680
Speaker 1: are still kind of downtrodden state physically. But I do

1404
01:12:36,800 --> 01:12:40,960
Speaker 1: want to say I kinda because the Zack Wilson touchdown

1405
01:12:41,040 --> 01:12:43,759
Speaker 1: run and then he had, he's now he hasn't thrown

1406
01:12:43,800 --> 01:12:47,320
Speaker 1: an interception in a hundred past attempts. Um I want

1407
01:12:47,320 --> 01:12:50,120
Speaker 1: to just say that, I'm I can't help it, but

1408
01:12:50,200 --> 01:12:53,559
Speaker 1: I get in my feelings with Jets quarterbacks. And I'm

1409
01:12:53,560 --> 01:12:57,280
Speaker 1: not saying I'm in on josh On on Zach Wilson again,

1410
01:12:57,640 --> 01:12:59,720
Speaker 1: but I just need to just chill out a little bit.

1411
01:13:00,000 --> 01:13:02,439
Speaker 1: I got a little I was like writing him off

1412
01:13:02,479 --> 01:13:04,960
Speaker 1: two weeks ago, and I have to keep in mind

1413
01:13:05,600 --> 01:13:09,120
Speaker 1: he's a first year quarterback. He's on a bad team

1414
01:13:09,160 --> 01:13:12,200
Speaker 1: with a bad offensive line and banged up skill players.

1415
01:13:12,920 --> 01:13:14,640
Speaker 1: I just need to take a breath here, take a

1416
01:13:14,640 --> 01:13:18,440
Speaker 1: beat before we talk about replacing Zack Wilson. I apologize

1417
01:13:18,640 --> 01:13:21,840
Speaker 1: to Zach the boy. The boy doesn't deserve to be

1418
01:13:21,920 --> 01:13:24,639
Speaker 1: doubted because he has not been put into a great

1419
01:13:24,680 --> 01:13:28,720
Speaker 1: set up personnel wise. He deserves more time, and that's

1420
01:13:28,720 --> 01:13:30,680
Speaker 1: what I'm going to give him. I'm not saying one

1421
01:13:30,680 --> 01:13:32,320
Speaker 1: way or the other. I'm not saying I think he's

1422
01:13:32,320 --> 01:13:34,439
Speaker 1: gonna do it. I don't. I'm not saying he's a bust.

1423
01:13:35,760 --> 01:13:39,320
Speaker 1: I'm taking a step back. Well, that's it's important to

1424
01:13:39,360 --> 01:13:42,960
Speaker 1: get that out there before he plays the Bucks because

1425
01:13:43,000 --> 01:13:45,080
Speaker 1: we'll see what We'll see what you say Sunday night

1426
01:13:45,320 --> 01:13:48,080
Speaker 1: when the bowls of sons comes crashing down on him.

1427
01:13:48,080 --> 01:13:50,840
Speaker 1: I'm worried about him in this game. The Bucks are

1428
01:13:51,000 --> 01:13:53,080
Speaker 1: healthier in their back end than they've been on it

1429
01:13:53,080 --> 01:13:54,800
Speaker 1: of the year. Actually, I don't know if Windfield is playing,

1430
01:13:54,840 --> 01:13:57,639
Speaker 1: but they finally have all their cornerbacks back, and White

1431
01:13:57,640 --> 01:13:59,960
Speaker 1: had their safety who was out He was one of

1432
01:14:00,040 --> 01:14:02,519
Speaker 1: those fake VACS guys right now. That was Edwards. He's

1433
01:14:02,560 --> 01:14:05,400
Speaker 1: back to like I noticed last week, and I know

1434
01:14:05,439 --> 01:14:07,559
Speaker 1: they had an easy opponent, but they were just getting

1435
01:14:07,680 --> 01:14:10,760
Speaker 1: very creative up front, and that that worries me. It's

1436
01:14:10,760 --> 01:14:12,640
Speaker 1: a tough match up here this week for Zach, so

1437
01:14:12,680 --> 01:14:15,120
Speaker 1: I wouldn't surprise me if he has a disastrous scheme,

1438
01:14:15,640 --> 01:14:18,160
Speaker 1: that's all I hope not. I feel like he's had

1439
01:14:18,200 --> 01:14:20,160
Speaker 1: some baby steps the last couple of weeks, So we'll see.

1440
01:14:22,080 --> 01:14:25,479
Speaker 1: Um and um. You know I mentioned McKay Beckton earlier.

1441
01:14:26,280 --> 01:14:29,160
Speaker 1: Uh he is. I think Robert Sali said it's gonna

1442
01:14:29,240 --> 01:14:31,600
Speaker 1: take I don't know if it was a miracle. I

1443
01:14:31,600 --> 01:14:34,200
Speaker 1: don't know the word he was used exactly, but he's

1444
01:14:34,240 --> 01:14:36,719
Speaker 1: not coming back. So it was a knee injury suffered

1445
01:14:36,720 --> 01:14:38,439
Speaker 1: in Week one that was supposed to be afford a

1446
01:14:38,520 --> 01:14:43,519
Speaker 1: six week absence, and uh, sixteen weeks later, he's not

1447
01:14:43,680 --> 01:14:46,519
Speaker 1: back and he's not coming back, and you start to

1448
01:14:46,640 --> 01:14:50,560
Speaker 1: hear some things. You start to hear some you know,

1449
01:14:50,680 --> 01:14:54,680
Speaker 1: whispers about McKay Beckton, and then you when you hear whispers,

1450
01:14:54,800 --> 01:14:57,560
Speaker 1: and then Robert Sala comes on at Press Commerce and

1451
01:14:57,760 --> 01:14:59,640
Speaker 1: and says the dreaded this is going to be a

1452
01:14:59,720 --> 01:15:04,760
Speaker 1: big offseason from a guy Beckton. I have some concerns

1453
01:15:04,840 --> 01:15:10,479
Speaker 1: that he's a hugely talented left tackle with amazing upside,

1454
01:15:11,040 --> 01:15:13,000
Speaker 1: but does he have what it takes to be a

1455
01:15:13,080 --> 01:15:16,360
Speaker 1: successful pro. I think that's a question, to the point

1456
01:15:16,439 --> 01:15:18,240
Speaker 1: where you might even hear some talk about the Jets

1457
01:15:18,560 --> 01:15:21,160
Speaker 1: looking at their offensive line at the top of the draft.

1458
01:15:21,240 --> 01:15:23,000
Speaker 1: I think it's I think it's in playing something to

1459
01:15:23,080 --> 01:15:25,840
Speaker 1: keep an eye on here. It's funny because George Phant

1460
01:15:26,120 --> 01:15:28,800
Speaker 1: ended up playing pretty quite well for him, which is

1461
01:15:28,880 --> 01:15:33,880
Speaker 1: a surprise. Was a nice pickup by by Douglas that well,

1462
01:15:33,960 --> 01:15:35,760
Speaker 1: it's just a question. I think if Beckham has an

1463
01:15:35,880 --> 01:15:39,719
Speaker 1: NFL body, you know, it's such a unique body type.

1464
01:15:40,160 --> 01:15:42,439
Speaker 1: It's tough to keep the weight off. It also has

1465
01:15:42,840 --> 01:15:45,400
Speaker 1: you know, you just would think your three six three eight,

1466
01:15:45,600 --> 01:15:49,000
Speaker 1: can you stay in good shape and and stay healthy.

1467
01:15:49,200 --> 01:15:52,559
Speaker 1: It's that combination, you know, especially when you're rehabbing and all.

1468
01:15:52,640 --> 01:15:55,200
Speaker 1: That's it's the drive. Yeah, that's that's what you're hearing.

1469
01:15:55,320 --> 01:15:57,320
Speaker 1: Does he have the drive to kind of take because yes,

1470
01:15:57,439 --> 01:16:01,680
Speaker 1: the body is unusually large, but he's was given a

1471
01:16:01,720 --> 01:16:04,200
Speaker 1: gift um that he could be an all time tight talent,

1472
01:16:04,760 --> 01:16:06,280
Speaker 1: but he has to kind of be all in there.

1473
01:16:06,320 --> 01:16:09,040
Speaker 1: I mean that would be Uh. That's why the draft

1474
01:16:09,160 --> 01:16:11,559
Speaker 1: is such a crapshoot because there were those four big

1475
01:16:11,640 --> 01:16:14,720
Speaker 1: tackles in that draft class and the Giants picks first

1476
01:16:14,800 --> 01:16:17,880
Speaker 1: and Andrew Thomas didn't work out. He looked okay, he

1477
01:16:17,920 --> 01:16:19,640
Speaker 1: looked pretty good this year that Thomas. He had a

1478
01:16:19,720 --> 01:16:22,479
Speaker 1: nice bounce back. Second okay, Credrick Wills has been good

1479
01:16:22,520 --> 01:16:26,439
Speaker 1: for Cleveland. Um, who am I missing? Back in opposite

1480
01:16:26,840 --> 01:16:29,320
Speaker 1: turned into an All Pro Bowl. There you go. So

1481
01:16:29,439 --> 01:16:32,240
Speaker 1: it's like fourth one and he was a consensus fourth too.

1482
01:16:32,360 --> 01:16:35,519
Speaker 1: It's funny. So it's just it's just the way it works.

1483
01:16:35,600 --> 01:16:38,400
Speaker 1: And um, obviously, if you can lock down a big

1484
01:16:38,479 --> 01:16:40,040
Speaker 1: time left tackle, it could set you up for a

1485
01:16:40,120 --> 01:16:42,080
Speaker 1: decade and a half. The Jets now are and cross

1486
01:16:42,160 --> 01:16:44,479
Speaker 1: their fingers mode that this is gonna work out, which

1487
01:16:44,520 --> 01:16:46,880
Speaker 1: is frustrating, but that's just the way it is, all right,

1488
01:16:46,960 --> 01:16:49,840
Speaker 1: So very very quickly on the Bucks, I've noticed how

1489
01:16:49,880 --> 01:16:52,120
Speaker 1: they went heavy personnel throughout last week. I don't know

1490
01:16:52,120 --> 01:16:54,120
Speaker 1: if that was just a matchup thing, but they don't

1491
01:16:54,160 --> 01:16:56,840
Speaker 1: have their wide receivers healthy. They were playing like two

1492
01:16:56,960 --> 01:16:59,000
Speaker 1: or three tight ends. Remember O J. Howard, he's still

1493
01:16:59,040 --> 01:17:02,400
Speaker 1: on this Bucks team. I had almost forgotten. Um. I

1494
01:17:02,560 --> 01:17:05,200
Speaker 1: just almost think, like Brady gets off on this stuff

1495
01:17:05,240 --> 01:17:07,479
Speaker 1: of like, oh, how are we gonna mcgever this thing

1496
01:17:07,640 --> 01:17:10,559
Speaker 1: by playing like a six tackle and two tight ends

1497
01:17:10,600 --> 01:17:13,120
Speaker 1: and we're gonna like change who we are a little bit.

1498
01:17:13,200 --> 01:17:15,880
Speaker 1: They've been really hurt by injuries and I we'll see

1499
01:17:15,920 --> 01:17:17,840
Speaker 1: if they do that sort of approach again, but it

1500
01:17:17,960 --> 01:17:20,439
Speaker 1: might be a different looking Bucks team. And obviously they

1501
01:17:20,479 --> 01:17:22,519
Speaker 1: can still be effective, but it's just like they don't

1502
01:17:22,560 --> 01:17:24,960
Speaker 1: have wide receivers. Good. Yeah, A little bit of an

1503
01:17:24,960 --> 01:17:28,840
Speaker 1: apology to Cashawn Vaughan, who uh took some fire on

1504
01:17:28,920 --> 01:17:32,080
Speaker 1: this show um for me in particular, and then ripped

1505
01:17:32,120 --> 01:17:34,519
Speaker 1: off a fifty five yard touchdown run early in that

1506
01:17:34,600 --> 01:17:37,320
Speaker 1: game last week. Ronald Jones I thought was good as

1507
01:17:37,400 --> 01:17:41,439
Speaker 1: well in that game. And um, Mike Evans, I know,

1508
01:17:41,720 --> 01:17:44,000
Speaker 1: what's his status? Is he out another weeks? Week two?

1509
01:17:44,120 --> 01:17:46,439
Speaker 1: He's week to week and not expected to play this week.

1510
01:17:46,520 --> 01:17:48,760
Speaker 1: But I think they don't play Jets give him that

1511
01:17:48,840 --> 01:17:52,160
Speaker 1: extra week. And Antonio Brown was targeted fifteen times by

1512
01:17:52,200 --> 01:17:55,479
Speaker 1: the way Um in his first game back the Giants

1513
01:17:55,600 --> 01:17:58,800
Speaker 1: at the Bears. Uh is this? Uh? Is this a

1514
01:17:58,920 --> 01:18:01,720
Speaker 1: justin fields game? Do we get justin fields back? We

1515
01:18:01,840 --> 01:18:05,400
Speaker 1: don't know. He returned to practice, so you would think,

1516
01:18:05,600 --> 01:18:08,439
Speaker 1: but we don't know. That's the only reason to watch

1517
01:18:08,560 --> 01:18:12,000
Speaker 1: this game. Uh, what's his name? Joe Judge said that

1518
01:18:12,200 --> 01:18:15,680
Speaker 1: they're gonna what's name? I mean, I just couldn't think

1519
01:18:15,720 --> 01:18:17,960
Speaker 1: of it for a second. He said he's gonna play

1520
01:18:18,040 --> 01:18:20,599
Speaker 1: Glennan in From. He said they're both going to play,

1521
01:18:20,720 --> 01:18:24,160
Speaker 1: so get that sounds like a threat. You know what?

1522
01:18:24,280 --> 01:18:26,920
Speaker 1: The best thing that ever happened to the From was

1523
01:18:27,040 --> 01:18:28,720
Speaker 1: that that game wasn't in prime time. I mean he

1524
01:18:28,840 --> 01:18:32,800
Speaker 1: made Ian Book look like Mahomes. That was it was.

1525
01:18:32,920 --> 01:18:36,000
Speaker 1: It was a tough scene. And um, and I like

1526
01:18:36,120 --> 01:18:37,760
Speaker 1: the Bears to win this football game. I think the

1527
01:18:37,800 --> 01:18:40,280
Speaker 1: science might be the worst team in the NFL right now,

1528
01:18:40,320 --> 01:18:42,360
Speaker 1: I think they're probably the worst it Actually, yeah, I

1529
01:18:42,479 --> 01:18:44,800
Speaker 1: even thought about locking up the Bears, but who wants

1530
01:18:44,840 --> 01:18:46,760
Speaker 1: to even track that game? They might be out of

1531
01:18:46,800 --> 01:18:51,080
Speaker 1: the lock zone. That's how it's been around six and

1532
01:18:51,120 --> 01:18:55,280
Speaker 1: a half seven all week six. Yeah, you know I'm

1533
01:18:55,320 --> 01:18:57,439
Speaker 1: not going to touch that, but uh yeah, I think

1534
01:18:57,439 --> 01:18:59,519
Speaker 1: the Bears are in great position there. Yeah, I think that.

1535
01:18:59,880 --> 01:19:01,720
Speaker 1: I really did weigh on the power rankings. Should the

1536
01:19:01,760 --> 01:19:04,720
Speaker 1: Giants be number thirty two because the Jaguars at least

1537
01:19:04,960 --> 01:19:07,760
Speaker 1: add a little bit of competitiveness. Um almost won a

1538
01:19:07,800 --> 01:19:10,679
Speaker 1: game last week. They if they deliver another total bomb,

1539
01:19:10,840 --> 01:19:14,800
Speaker 1: the Giants do fall to thatt That's how the season's gone. Uh.

1540
01:19:14,960 --> 01:19:18,160
Speaker 1: In New York, all right, let's move to Philadelphia at

1541
01:19:18,280 --> 01:19:22,640
Speaker 1: Washington two more NFC East teams. UM. I was not

1542
01:19:22,880 --> 01:19:26,479
Speaker 1: very impressed by the Eagles. Uh. I know, when you're

1543
01:19:26,479 --> 01:19:29,800
Speaker 1: playing the Giants, Uh, it's tough to get up for

1544
01:19:30,240 --> 01:19:32,200
Speaker 1: that type of game. And for whatever reason, the Giants

1545
01:19:32,200 --> 01:19:35,040
Speaker 1: seemed to give the Eagles trouble. But the first half

1546
01:19:35,080 --> 01:19:38,519
Speaker 1: against Washington two weeks ago, the Eagles are flat and

1547
01:19:38,600 --> 01:19:42,479
Speaker 1: that Tuesday game, they were horrendous until the third quarter

1548
01:19:42,560 --> 01:19:45,840
Speaker 1: against the Giants. Jalen Hurts has not been running the

1549
01:19:45,880 --> 01:19:47,960
Speaker 1: ball a lot, and I think you take that component

1550
01:19:48,000 --> 01:19:51,439
Speaker 1: out of the offense. Uh, They're not very special uh

1551
01:19:51,520 --> 01:19:54,280
Speaker 1: to me. But Washington seems cooked to me, So it

1552
01:19:54,320 --> 01:19:56,560
Speaker 1: seems like a good spot for the Eagles. Right The

1553
01:19:56,640 --> 01:20:00,479
Speaker 1: Eagles are were three and oh in December. They could

1554
01:20:00,520 --> 01:20:03,640
Speaker 1: not have faced any less adversity to get into this

1555
01:20:03,720 --> 01:20:07,400
Speaker 1: playoff position. It's like they beat the Jets at a

1556
01:20:07,439 --> 01:20:10,880
Speaker 1: low point, they beat a totally diminished Washington team, and

1557
01:20:10,960 --> 01:20:14,320
Speaker 1: they beat the Giants with with the framenader. I mean,

1558
01:20:14,560 --> 01:20:18,639
Speaker 1: it's just set up. It's set up perfectly for them.

1559
01:20:18,720 --> 01:20:21,320
Speaker 1: And yet it's like, I think this is a legitimately

1560
01:20:21,360 --> 01:20:23,680
Speaker 1: good team on both sides of the ball. Uh, and

1561
01:20:23,720 --> 01:20:25,920
Speaker 1: they're playing a team that's so banged up, and yet

1562
01:20:25,960 --> 01:20:29,679
Speaker 1: they're only uh three point favorites in this game, which

1563
01:20:29,720 --> 01:20:32,680
Speaker 1: has me wondering. It's almost Vegas asking for you to

1564
01:20:32,840 --> 01:20:35,960
Speaker 1: take the Eagles, But I don't care. I'm taking it, uh,

1565
01:20:36,080 --> 01:20:40,360
Speaker 1: and I'm making it rain in Washington. Forget the football

1566
01:20:40,439 --> 01:20:42,320
Speaker 1: team right now, we're on a five and oh heater,

1567
01:20:42,520 --> 01:20:47,760
Speaker 1: Let's go Eagles Races. Car payments putting that new pool

1568
01:20:47,800 --> 01:20:51,240
Speaker 1: in the backyard, get that driveway done, raining a lot.

1569
01:20:51,320 --> 01:20:53,760
Speaker 1: You got some leaks, get the roof done. The rainmaker

1570
01:20:53,840 --> 01:20:57,519
Speaker 1: takes care of your leaks. Hurts is a better passer,

1571
01:20:57,600 --> 01:21:01,000
Speaker 1: by the way than people than I expect did. Because

1572
01:21:01,040 --> 01:21:02,840
Speaker 1: you asked that, I think the Gonzo or you mentioned

1573
01:21:02,880 --> 01:21:05,439
Speaker 1: it the other week. He doesn't make great decisions all

1574
01:21:05,479 --> 01:21:08,080
Speaker 1: the time. Now that's pretty you know, typical of a

1575
01:21:08,160 --> 01:21:10,880
Speaker 1: second year quarterback, and I think that's an issue for

1576
01:21:11,200 --> 01:21:14,080
Speaker 1: them if they play a good defense. But actually, just

1577
01:21:14,240 --> 01:21:18,320
Speaker 1: like his pure having a variety of throws, arm talent,

1578
01:21:18,400 --> 01:21:19,800
Speaker 1: I think he looks a lot better than he did.

1579
01:21:19,840 --> 01:21:22,840
Speaker 1: Awareness is a little bit of a thing. I agree

1580
01:21:22,920 --> 01:21:25,040
Speaker 1: with that, But I think just like people thought, he

1581
01:21:25,160 --> 01:21:27,479
Speaker 1: was a little limited a little bit as a passer,

1582
01:21:27,560 --> 01:21:29,800
Speaker 1: and I think he's a lot better than than people

1583
01:21:29,800 --> 01:21:31,920
Speaker 1: get him credit. I guess yeah, My official stance is

1584
01:21:32,000 --> 01:21:34,080
Speaker 1: kind of guess now, similar to where Gonzo was on

1585
01:21:34,160 --> 01:21:37,040
Speaker 1: our show. I'm just not feeling the Eagles that much,

1586
01:21:37,120 --> 01:21:42,280
Speaker 1: but more me like confirming my priors that this Washington

1587
01:21:42,360 --> 01:21:46,360
Speaker 1: team is a three and twelve team masking as a

1588
01:21:46,439 --> 01:21:48,720
Speaker 1: six and nine team that got scrappy for a couple

1589
01:21:48,760 --> 01:21:50,920
Speaker 1: of weeks. There's just a mess, and it's a it's

1590
01:21:50,920 --> 01:21:55,240
Speaker 1: a pick against Washington. Heinik that. Look, he's earned a

1591
01:21:55,360 --> 01:21:57,679
Speaker 1: nice long career in the NFL, and he's under contract

1592
01:21:57,760 --> 01:21:59,880
Speaker 1: in Washington for very cheap. Next year he'll be there

1593
01:22:00,000 --> 01:22:02,880
Speaker 1: pack up quarterback or he'll compete with someone. But you know,

1594
01:22:03,000 --> 01:22:05,439
Speaker 1: the idea that he could be a starter week one

1595
01:22:05,560 --> 01:22:07,360
Speaker 1: is not a good idea. He played his I think

1596
01:22:07,400 --> 01:22:09,639
Speaker 1: he's played his way out of that conversation the last

1597
01:22:09,640 --> 01:22:12,439
Speaker 1: few weeks. But a good backup, good back. Alright, we'll

1598
01:22:12,479 --> 01:22:17,880
Speaker 1: pick another game right after this break. Denver at Chargers. UM.

1599
01:22:18,040 --> 01:22:22,160
Speaker 1: This is a game obviously that both teams need. The

1600
01:22:22,439 --> 01:22:26,240
Speaker 1: Chargers just came across the wire seconds ago. Mike Williams

1601
01:22:26,320 --> 01:22:29,880
Speaker 1: was activated off the COVID list. Mike Williams not vaccinated.

1602
01:22:30,080 --> 01:22:35,439
Speaker 1: Joey Bosa not vaccinated. Austin Ekeler Um, he also landed

1603
01:22:35,439 --> 01:22:39,120
Speaker 1: on the COVID list. He was vaccinated. Uh, got to

1604
01:22:39,160 --> 01:22:41,559
Speaker 1: get these guys back. But my thought on this, Greg

1605
01:22:41,640 --> 01:22:42,680
Speaker 1: and it was what I was going to bring it

1606
01:22:42,760 --> 01:22:44,759
Speaker 1: up on our television show. That is now not happening

1607
01:22:45,240 --> 01:22:47,320
Speaker 1: um this week, but we will be back next Saturday.

1608
01:22:47,439 --> 01:22:50,280
Speaker 1: So make sure you check out the broadcast. Um, come on,

1609
01:22:50,400 --> 01:22:54,679
Speaker 1: Justin Herbert, not putting the this inconsistent play on you directly,

1610
01:22:55,080 --> 01:22:58,000
Speaker 1: but we love listen. I love Justin Herbert, Greg, you

1611
01:22:58,120 --> 01:23:01,479
Speaker 1: love Justin Herbert. Chris Westling love Justin Herbert. There's a

1612
01:23:01,600 --> 01:23:08,040
Speaker 1: whole large pocket of the footballs and that loves Justin Herbert.

1613
01:23:09,120 --> 01:23:11,360
Speaker 1: So make us look good, make us look smart, and

1614
01:23:11,640 --> 01:23:14,400
Speaker 1: deliver another one of those like epic young name of

1615
01:23:14,479 --> 01:23:17,840
Speaker 1: performances and get this team to the postseason. It's fair

1616
01:23:18,560 --> 01:23:21,400
Speaker 1: and a just hatch up in a tough matchup because

1617
01:23:21,479 --> 01:23:23,800
Speaker 1: this Broncos team has kind of owned the Chargers in

1618
01:23:23,880 --> 01:23:25,720
Speaker 1: recent years. I know Staley wasn't there, but he was

1619
01:23:25,800 --> 01:23:28,599
Speaker 1: there a month ago when Denver put it on him.

1620
01:23:28,800 --> 01:23:32,639
Speaker 1: Kind of a weird game where Denver their their strategy

1621
01:23:32,760 --> 01:23:34,880
Speaker 1: just hold the ball forever and then give up long

1622
01:23:35,000 --> 01:23:37,160
Speaker 1: drives actually work because they forced some field goals and

1623
01:23:37,200 --> 01:23:39,400
Speaker 1: suddenly the game was like over. But Herbert was a

1624
01:23:39,439 --> 01:23:41,280
Speaker 1: little mixed up in that game, kind of like Joe

1625
01:23:41,320 --> 01:23:43,799
Speaker 1: Burrow was when they played the Broncos. The Broncos defense,

1626
01:23:44,120 --> 01:23:46,040
Speaker 1: I think it's played its best ball the last five

1627
01:23:46,160 --> 01:23:49,200
Speaker 1: or six weeks. Drew lock Uh is expected to start

1628
01:23:49,479 --> 01:23:52,160
Speaker 1: in this game. Um, but I'd be a little worried

1629
01:23:52,160 --> 01:23:54,439
Speaker 1: if I was a Chargers fan because that run defense,

1630
01:23:54,479 --> 01:23:56,320
Speaker 1: which has been a problem. Can you get off the

1631
01:23:56,439 --> 01:23:59,920
Speaker 1: field when Javonte Williams that was the problem last week

1632
01:24:00,439 --> 01:24:03,120
Speaker 1: last time. These two teams played in Melvin Gordon are

1633
01:24:03,240 --> 01:24:05,720
Speaker 1: are running on you and and Denver does have a

1634
01:24:05,760 --> 01:24:07,720
Speaker 1: lot of COVID issues though that are up in the

1635
01:24:07,840 --> 01:24:10,040
Speaker 1: air as as we talk, so we don't really know

1636
01:24:10,160 --> 01:24:12,200
Speaker 1: what where they're going to be at roster wise. Yeah,

1637
01:24:12,280 --> 01:24:14,639
Speaker 1: speaking of that, we didn't bring it up, but because

1638
01:24:14,720 --> 01:24:18,080
Speaker 1: the Panthers are have so many other issues, but they

1639
01:24:18,160 --> 01:24:22,599
Speaker 1: were hit with a major um breakthrough event in their building.

1640
01:24:22,720 --> 01:24:25,360
Speaker 1: So that Saints game even more reason to think that

1641
01:24:25,600 --> 01:24:29,120
Speaker 1: Saints are gonna take care of business. But yeah, all right, um,

1642
01:24:30,360 --> 01:24:32,680
Speaker 1: and they're in the Charges don't have many cornerbacks. I

1643
01:24:32,720 --> 01:24:36,040
Speaker 1: thought Drew lock didn't do anything too poor last week.

1644
01:24:36,120 --> 01:24:39,960
Speaker 1: Actually it wasn't on him. It's a weird game, and uh,

1645
01:24:40,040 --> 01:24:42,240
Speaker 1: it's a big game for him. I know this sounds silly,

1646
01:24:42,320 --> 01:24:44,040
Speaker 1: but like if he could have a great game in

1647
01:24:44,120 --> 01:24:47,040
Speaker 1: this spot, it would help his career, which is not

1648
01:24:47,400 --> 01:24:49,479
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm a little nervous about this as

1649
01:24:49,520 --> 01:24:52,799
Speaker 1: a quasi Chargers fan, even though they're like touchdown favorites.

1650
01:24:53,520 --> 01:24:57,400
Speaker 1: They finished home Broncos at Raiders, both winnable games, but

1651
01:24:58,520 --> 01:25:00,599
Speaker 1: Chargers history tells us they're not going to take care

1652
01:25:00,640 --> 01:25:02,760
Speaker 1: of business. They won't finish ten and seven, and yet

1653
01:25:02,880 --> 01:25:05,120
Speaker 1: they should. So they should, but they need a little

1654
01:25:05,160 --> 01:25:08,200
Speaker 1: help to They'll need the Dolphins to lose one there,

1655
01:25:08,280 --> 01:25:11,120
Speaker 1: I believe, I mean it all, there's a million X factors,

1656
01:25:11,200 --> 01:25:13,280
Speaker 1: but they are. They're out of the playoffs. You know

1657
01:25:13,320 --> 01:25:16,000
Speaker 1: they're gonna need help. But I'm saying even if even

1658
01:25:16,040 --> 01:25:18,240
Speaker 1: if they somehow missed the playoffs at ten and seven,

1659
01:25:18,400 --> 01:25:20,800
Speaker 1: the season would be successful to me, uh and it

1660
01:25:20,840 --> 01:25:23,040
Speaker 1: would be a big step forward. But if you if

1661
01:25:23,080 --> 01:25:25,320
Speaker 1: you charge you this thing up and either split or

1662
01:25:25,360 --> 01:25:28,000
Speaker 1: god forbid, lose both games go eight nine, It's like,

1663
01:25:28,080 --> 01:25:30,400
Speaker 1: what how we keep on getting back to the same

1664
01:25:30,439 --> 01:25:33,800
Speaker 1: place with this organization. It always doesn't matter who's playing

1665
01:25:33,880 --> 01:25:39,120
Speaker 1: quarterback or who's involved in that building, but take care business.

1666
01:25:39,160 --> 01:25:41,360
Speaker 1: Broncles are not very good. Drew Locks the other quarterback.

1667
01:25:41,439 --> 01:25:46,679
Speaker 1: All right, all right, we have one more game Detroit

1668
01:25:46,840 --> 01:25:52,799
Speaker 1: at Seattle. Hey, Ricky, do you have sound from Russell

1669
01:25:52,880 --> 01:25:57,439
Speaker 1: Wilson's media availability on Thursday. Of course, I do you know,

1670
01:25:57,479 --> 01:26:00,439
Speaker 1: I know, I know for me personally, you know, you know,

1671
01:26:00,520 --> 01:26:02,240
Speaker 1: I hope it's not my last game, but you know

1672
01:26:02,320 --> 01:26:03,680
Speaker 1: at the same time, no, it won't be my last

1673
01:26:03,680 --> 01:26:07,920
Speaker 1: game in the NFL. So Russell Wilson asked, uh, you

1674
01:26:08,000 --> 01:26:10,320
Speaker 1: know what his future looks like? Does he think it

1675
01:26:10,400 --> 01:26:12,519
Speaker 1: could be his last game? No? It was unprovoked. I

1676
01:26:12,600 --> 01:26:16,000
Speaker 1: think Dan someone tweeted that without even asking him. He

1677
01:26:16,160 --> 01:26:18,400
Speaker 1: just started saying that, Hey, I mean, I don't know

1678
01:26:18,439 --> 01:26:23,320
Speaker 1: if it's my ya. He came. He came to the

1679
01:26:23,439 --> 01:26:25,679
Speaker 1: party with that line and no one asked him a question.

1680
01:26:25,760 --> 01:26:31,519
Speaker 1: He wanted the store. He said that this is the week,

1681
01:26:31,840 --> 01:26:33,320
Speaker 1: this is would be the week. I thought there was

1682
01:26:33,360 --> 01:26:35,800
Speaker 1: gonna be a leak to one of the reporters that

1683
01:26:35,880 --> 01:26:38,599
Speaker 1: he's in good with and would do carry some water

1684
01:26:38,720 --> 01:26:42,479
Speaker 1: for him, but he decided either that didn't work out

1685
01:26:42,720 --> 01:26:44,599
Speaker 1: or he just was impatient. Was like, I'll just say

1686
01:26:44,640 --> 01:26:47,200
Speaker 1: something myself to get the ball rolling here. I love

1687
01:26:47,280 --> 01:26:50,280
Speaker 1: this guy. And how about Greg? How about you on

1688
01:26:50,400 --> 01:26:52,400
Speaker 1: social media taking some heat. I don't know if you're

1689
01:26:52,400 --> 01:26:56,920
Speaker 1: paying attention, But Ricky did a nice job him Ricky

1690
01:26:57,000 --> 01:27:00,000
Speaker 1: did a really nice job amplifying our Unsolved Mysteries segment,

1691
01:27:00,280 --> 01:27:03,120
Speaker 1: and you with the take that you rather have Mac

1692
01:27:03,200 --> 01:27:07,360
Speaker 1: Jones over Russell Wilson. I believe you said easily. Yeah,

1693
01:27:08,080 --> 01:27:13,760
Speaker 1: it went viral like it went like seahawks Twitter went crazy. Really,

1694
01:27:13,840 --> 01:27:18,080
Speaker 1: I also I didn't see it. I did mute the

1695
01:27:18,240 --> 01:27:22,000
Speaker 1: conversation immediately, so I didn't I didn't know all that. Wow,

1696
01:27:22,080 --> 01:27:28,920
Speaker 1: that's interesting. Wow, So that kind of I mute and

1697
01:27:29,000 --> 01:27:32,280
Speaker 1: block everyone and everything I want. I mean, what do

1698
01:27:32,320 --> 01:27:34,720
Speaker 1: you mean? Right? But I'm not going to jump in.

1699
01:27:34,760 --> 01:27:37,719
Speaker 1: I don't need a million people going back and forth

1700
01:27:37,920 --> 01:27:40,360
Speaker 1: like reading that stuff. I don't know. They weren't back

1701
01:27:40,360 --> 01:27:43,920
Speaker 1: and forth. It was like unanimously like quote tweets with

1702
01:27:44,080 --> 01:27:47,439
Speaker 1: gifts of like people being like drunk or stupid or

1703
01:27:47,560 --> 01:27:50,519
Speaker 1: like which deserves to be maybe maybe aggressive. And I

1704
01:27:50,640 --> 01:27:54,040
Speaker 1: was thinking about it as I was talking. It's more

1705
01:27:54,240 --> 01:27:57,160
Speaker 1: like people claiming to never read like any work you

1706
01:27:57,320 --> 01:28:00,479
Speaker 1: right again because of your takes, like it was, but this,

1707
01:28:01,200 --> 01:28:03,680
Speaker 1: you know, this happens like all the time, like this

1708
01:28:04,200 --> 01:28:06,880
Speaker 1: one stood out though you Actually, I I can't remember

1709
01:28:06,920 --> 01:28:09,040
Speaker 1: too many times where someone said something on the podcast

1710
01:28:09,080 --> 01:28:11,000
Speaker 1: and you kind of took the took the air out

1711
01:28:11,040 --> 01:28:12,839
Speaker 1: of the room, like Mark, and I had to process

1712
01:28:12,920 --> 01:28:15,080
Speaker 1: it because you had said it. I don't know, because

1713
01:28:15,200 --> 01:28:17,720
Speaker 1: it's funny because what you said and people didn't listen

1714
01:28:17,760 --> 01:28:20,120
Speaker 1: to the show, was that we were talking about Russell

1715
01:28:20,200 --> 01:28:22,720
Speaker 1: Wilson and what it would take if he was on

1716
01:28:22,840 --> 01:28:25,120
Speaker 1: the market, what you would have to pay, And I

1717
01:28:25,520 --> 01:28:31,680
Speaker 1: threw out a scenario like with with the Patriots. You

1718
01:28:31,800 --> 01:28:34,360
Speaker 1: dismissed it out of hand, and I understood your logic,

1719
01:28:34,680 --> 01:28:37,439
Speaker 1: but I was guessed. It was just so surprised, um

1720
01:28:37,760 --> 01:28:40,599
Speaker 1: how confident you were that Russell Wilson was no longer

1721
01:28:40,680 --> 01:28:43,000
Speaker 1: a special quarterback, and I thought maybe you dismissed that

1722
01:28:43,080 --> 01:28:46,559
Speaker 1: he's injured this year potentially Still I'm not totally confident.

1723
01:28:46,680 --> 01:28:50,120
Speaker 1: I admit it. I of course Russell Wilson could end

1724
01:28:50,200 --> 01:28:56,120
Speaker 1: up being UM great again. But right now, would I

1725
01:28:56,240 --> 01:29:00,760
Speaker 1: want him or like a first round draft pick contract

1726
01:29:01,360 --> 01:29:03,920
Speaker 1: of a guy that looks promising. I think I think

1727
01:29:03,960 --> 01:29:06,880
Speaker 1: that's a totally fair question. It's not as clear because

1728
01:29:07,000 --> 01:29:09,080
Speaker 1: it's more about whether I don't know, you know, it's

1729
01:29:09,120 --> 01:29:11,280
Speaker 1: more about Mac Jones that I'm worried about. But I

1730
01:29:11,560 --> 01:29:13,880
Speaker 1: and maybe I'm over radiant because I do this silly

1731
01:29:13,920 --> 01:29:16,080
Speaker 1: column every week and I watch his games closely, and

1732
01:29:16,120 --> 01:29:18,679
Speaker 1: it's been a year and a half, and I'm thinking

1733
01:29:18,760 --> 01:29:20,840
Speaker 1: of some of the doubters of Russell Wilson, of the

1734
01:29:20,920 --> 01:29:25,519
Speaker 1: limitations of his game over the years, and maybe I'm thinking,

1735
01:29:25,600 --> 01:29:28,040
Speaker 1: like now it's finally coming true that like when he's

1736
01:29:28,080 --> 01:29:31,439
Speaker 1: not a special athlete in terms of making plays on

1737
01:29:31,479 --> 01:29:34,360
Speaker 1: his own or whatever. He's definitely not good like in

1738
01:29:34,400 --> 01:29:36,320
Speaker 1: the short game stuff like I don't know if it's

1739
01:29:36,360 --> 01:29:38,880
Speaker 1: the height or whatever, like he he does not fit.

1740
01:29:42,760 --> 01:29:46,519
Speaker 1: What I'm saying is he's he's not good at like

1741
01:29:46,680 --> 01:29:49,240
Speaker 1: short passes, like at a short passing, like the quick

1742
01:29:49,280 --> 01:29:51,800
Speaker 1: game stuff. That that's not him. He's never that's never

1743
01:29:51,920 --> 01:29:54,680
Speaker 1: been his thing. It's he's a chunk play and make

1744
01:29:54,760 --> 01:29:57,840
Speaker 1: plays on his own. Uh and mid level you know,

1745
01:29:57,960 --> 01:30:01,360
Speaker 1: mid intermediate throws, which is all great, But he hasn't

1746
01:30:01,400 --> 01:30:04,160
Speaker 1: been great, like for a season and a half and

1747
01:30:04,280 --> 01:30:08,240
Speaker 1: that does that does concern me, Like he's been mediocre

1748
01:30:08,479 --> 01:30:11,400
Speaker 1: this season. He's just has been And people put it

1749
01:30:11,520 --> 01:30:13,920
Speaker 1: all on the finger, like he said his finger was

1750
01:30:13,960 --> 01:30:16,320
Speaker 1: all great, like the last two weeks or maybe his

1751
01:30:16,400 --> 01:30:18,240
Speaker 1: worst two weeks of the year after it looked pretty

1752
01:30:18,280 --> 01:30:20,080
Speaker 1: good for a couple of weeks, and then I also,

1753
01:30:20,080 --> 01:30:22,280
Speaker 1: I'm thinking about like the second half of last season,

1754
01:30:22,479 --> 01:30:24,280
Speaker 1: and I don't know. I could be wrong. I could.

1755
01:30:24,320 --> 01:30:28,760
Speaker 1: I definitely am. I'm not back down now. I'm not

1756
01:30:28,880 --> 01:30:31,800
Speaker 1: backing down. I I would. I would stick with it.

1757
01:30:32,280 --> 01:30:35,280
Speaker 1: But it depends on his situation. But if he's in

1758
01:30:35,280 --> 01:30:40,280
Speaker 1: an average situation, can he can he raise that situation?

1759
01:30:40,520 --> 01:30:42,920
Speaker 1: Like am I excited about him on the Jets? If

1760
01:30:42,960 --> 01:30:45,600
Speaker 1: I was, you sure? Compared to where you are. But

1761
01:30:45,720 --> 01:30:47,840
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be that confident that he's gonna be a

1762
01:30:47,920 --> 01:30:51,439
Speaker 1: top like seven or eight quarterback again. And so if

1763
01:30:51,479 --> 01:30:53,439
Speaker 1: he's not, then yeah, I keep a first round pick

1764
01:30:53,479 --> 01:30:56,040
Speaker 1: in Mac Jones. Then then taking like a thirty million

1765
01:30:56,120 --> 01:30:58,160
Speaker 1: dollar a year a guy much less what he would cost.

1766
01:31:00,160 --> 01:31:02,320
Speaker 1: So now that we've kind of delved in a little more,

1767
01:31:02,439 --> 01:31:07,400
Speaker 1: Mac in the first for Russ and a sixth wait Mac,

1768
01:31:07,880 --> 01:31:13,600
Speaker 1: and the first wait you get? Wait you now in

1769
01:31:13,800 --> 01:31:16,559
Speaker 1: my mind is back Jones in the first round pick

1770
01:31:16,840 --> 01:31:22,840
Speaker 1: to Seattle for Russell Wilson in a sixth round pick. No, okay,

1771
01:31:24,560 --> 01:31:27,760
Speaker 1: you stand by the take? Well, yeah, the pick, the

1772
01:31:27,840 --> 01:31:30,479
Speaker 1: pick is huge in there, I feel like the pick

1773
01:31:30,600 --> 01:31:35,360
Speaker 1: the contract. Um, maybe it's my problem, Like I'm looking,

1774
01:31:35,439 --> 01:31:38,120
Speaker 1: they've been both like mid level quarterbacks this year. One's

1775
01:31:38,120 --> 01:31:41,400
Speaker 1: a rookie and one's a guy who's not as physically

1776
01:31:41,439 --> 01:31:44,960
Speaker 1: given track record to Greg. Russell Wilson is not thirty

1777
01:31:45,040 --> 01:31:47,720
Speaker 1: nine years old. Russell Wilson just turned thirty three, and

1778
01:31:47,840 --> 01:31:50,400
Speaker 1: he is somebody that lives and breathes it and and

1779
01:31:50,560 --> 01:31:53,360
Speaker 1: there's a gym rat. I know you mentioned Big Ben

1780
01:31:53,600 --> 01:31:56,080
Speaker 1: is like Big Gun and Russell Wilson are very different

1781
01:31:56,160 --> 01:32:00,400
Speaker 1: personalities in terms of some preparation habits, and I've on

1782
01:32:00,520 --> 01:32:03,240
Speaker 1: some level and Big and Ben was still good into

1783
01:32:03,360 --> 01:32:05,920
Speaker 1: his mid thirties. It's not that if he lands, like

1784
01:32:05,960 --> 01:32:08,880
Speaker 1: if Russell Wilson lands on the scenes like he's gonna shred.

1785
01:32:09,640 --> 01:32:12,200
Speaker 1: If he lands in a great situation, he'll be great.

1786
01:32:12,280 --> 01:32:13,880
Speaker 1: But I would say that too, of like I would

1787
01:32:13,920 --> 01:32:16,439
Speaker 1: believe that of mac Jones moved forward to all right

1788
01:32:16,560 --> 01:32:19,160
Speaker 1: to that point, like see, if he landed with the Patriots,

1789
01:32:19,200 --> 01:32:21,160
Speaker 1: I would be furious because I could I could just

1790
01:32:21,240 --> 01:32:23,920
Speaker 1: picture what would happen next Patriots in the Super Bowl,

1791
01:32:23,960 --> 01:32:26,680
Speaker 1: and him and Bill are on the same wavelength. If

1792
01:32:26,720 --> 01:32:31,719
Speaker 1: he lands with the Giants, maybe maybe I'm not as confident,

1793
01:32:31,840 --> 01:32:35,040
Speaker 1: but anyway, I'm not even confident that they win this game. Here,

1794
01:32:35,080 --> 01:32:40,200
Speaker 1: the Lions have been frisky. Their defense has been playing fantastic.

1795
01:32:41,120 --> 01:32:44,080
Speaker 1: Uh really, over the last two months, they've been quite good.

1796
01:32:44,200 --> 01:32:47,960
Speaker 1: I'm so impressed by this coaching staff. Goff is back

1797
01:32:48,080 --> 01:32:52,120
Speaker 1: this week, so is DeAndre Swift him on ros st

1798
01:32:52,160 --> 01:32:55,760
Speaker 1: Brown has been getting it done and uh, given seven

1799
01:32:55,880 --> 01:32:58,840
Speaker 1: points to the Lions. Uh, it's just too much. And

1800
01:32:58,880 --> 01:33:00,880
Speaker 1: that's why the Rainmakers come now one last time at

1801
01:33:00,920 --> 01:33:03,719
Speaker 1: the end of this show, Lions covering a touchdown in Seattle.

1802
01:33:03,880 --> 01:33:07,880
Speaker 1: Let's go bring that rain. Ricky oh Man, you are

1803
01:33:08,040 --> 01:33:16,560
Speaker 1: coming for Russell Wilson's throat. I got tot holes you

1804
01:33:16,640 --> 01:33:20,840
Speaker 1: can't see if you got the prep school. You want

1805
01:33:20,920 --> 01:33:27,439
Speaker 1: that new iPhone? Follow the Rainmaker, Follow the rain all right.

1806
01:33:27,520 --> 01:33:29,759
Speaker 1: By the way, Lions ten and five against the spread

1807
01:33:29,800 --> 01:33:31,080
Speaker 1: this year, and I went and look, I feel like

1808
01:33:31,080 --> 01:33:32,559
Speaker 1: I've had a good feel of the Lions. I think

1809
01:33:32,600 --> 01:33:34,960
Speaker 1: I'm I've gotten like eleven or twelve right of the

1810
01:33:35,000 --> 01:33:36,760
Speaker 1: Lions this year. I got that vibe here, I got

1811
01:33:36,840 --> 01:33:38,640
Speaker 1: the vibe. You got him locked in. I would not

1812
01:33:38,720 --> 01:33:40,720
Speaker 1: be surprised they've been doing it all season. All right,

1813
01:33:40,840 --> 01:33:47,240
Speaker 1: before we say goodbye, we should absolutely acknowledge that Hall

1814
01:33:47,280 --> 01:33:52,479
Speaker 1: of Fame coach, broadcasting icon, video game icon John Madden

1815
01:33:53,040 --> 01:33:57,839
Speaker 1: passed away at the age of five, passed away suddenly.

1816
01:33:57,960 --> 01:34:01,360
Speaker 1: He had been ill but is said to be in

1817
01:34:01,760 --> 01:34:04,439
Speaker 1: in in good shape. And then all of a sudden

1818
01:34:04,720 --> 01:34:07,720
Speaker 1: you get the news and it's really sad uh to

1819
01:34:07,880 --> 01:34:10,600
Speaker 1: lose John Madden. And I don't know, Greg, if you

1820
01:34:10,640 --> 01:34:13,160
Speaker 1: have any John Madden memory for me, and I've said

1821
01:34:13,200 --> 01:34:16,280
Speaker 1: it if you listen to this podcast, you know, um,

1822
01:34:16,680 --> 01:34:18,719
Speaker 1: one of the reasons I fell in love with football

1823
01:34:18,720 --> 01:34:20,799
Speaker 1: as I grew up as a boy, loving the NFL,

1824
01:34:20,920 --> 01:34:25,240
Speaker 1: and I remember all those Sundays coming home from St.

1825
01:34:25,280 --> 01:34:28,200
Speaker 1: Margaret's and going to my grandmother's house on Sunday afternoons

1826
01:34:28,200 --> 01:34:30,800
Speaker 1: and there's Poppy, my grandfather, on the on the big

1827
01:34:30,880 --> 01:34:34,080
Speaker 1: brown chair watching the Giants, and those are the great

1828
01:34:34,160 --> 01:34:39,120
Speaker 1: Giants teams of UH the eighties with LT and Phil

1829
01:34:39,240 --> 01:34:43,160
Speaker 1: Sims and John Madden's voice with Pat Summer. All that

1830
01:34:43,479 --> 01:34:47,439
Speaker 1: was like to me, that was football and and Madden

1831
01:34:48,160 --> 01:34:51,840
Speaker 1: was kind of the soundtrack of football in my formative years.

1832
01:34:51,880 --> 01:34:55,040
Speaker 1: So that's always what I think about. So um, that's

1833
01:34:55,080 --> 01:34:58,360
Speaker 1: how I remember Madden as the guy. That's like when

1834
01:34:58,439 --> 01:35:00,560
Speaker 1: I became someone who fell in love with football, it

1835
01:35:00,640 --> 01:35:05,680
Speaker 1: was Madden's voice that that soundtrack that Yeah, he's incredible,

1836
01:35:05,720 --> 01:35:08,919
Speaker 1: and I am. I feel like we're doing a disservice

1837
01:35:09,000 --> 01:35:11,200
Speaker 1: almost talking about him here so late, But I've also

1838
01:35:11,320 --> 01:35:15,200
Speaker 1: seen and read and enjoyed so many remembrances m f

1839
01:35:15,240 --> 01:35:17,519
Speaker 1: him over the last few days. You know, I think

1840
01:35:18,640 --> 01:35:22,320
Speaker 1: everyone hopefully is covered there because like the the All

1841
01:35:22,400 --> 01:35:25,599
Speaker 1: Madden Show. I started watching it last night. It's it's

1842
01:35:25,680 --> 01:35:30,000
Speaker 1: so good. Um and n NFL Network has been airing

1843
01:35:30,040 --> 01:35:32,760
Speaker 1: a lot of stuff and it was just like when

1844
01:35:32,840 --> 01:35:36,240
Speaker 1: Madden stopped announcing, like games just became a little less fun.

1845
01:35:36,520 --> 01:35:39,560
Speaker 1: It just was a fact like there to me, like

1846
01:35:39,680 --> 01:35:44,200
Speaker 1: a peak Madden game, it was just it just is better.

1847
01:35:44,439 --> 01:35:47,559
Speaker 1: It's as an experience. It's such a TV sport than

1848
01:35:47,800 --> 01:35:50,599
Speaker 1: a peak any other game. Like, you know, I don't

1849
01:35:50,600 --> 01:35:52,679
Speaker 1: think it's just because we were kids. Like Boumonti Jones

1850
01:35:52,760 --> 01:35:55,120
Speaker 1: wrote something about just like I think that's why people

1851
01:35:55,120 --> 01:35:58,160
Speaker 1: are so critical of color analysts, is like everyone had

1852
01:35:58,240 --> 01:36:00,800
Speaker 1: so much fun and love Madden so much that it

1853
01:36:00,880 --> 01:36:03,200
Speaker 1: was such a It's almost like a downgrade to everyone else.

1854
01:36:03,280 --> 01:36:05,000
Speaker 1: He spoiled us, and he said he was such a

1855
01:36:05,080 --> 01:36:07,880
Speaker 1: good teacher. You know, he made like the xs and

1856
01:36:08,000 --> 01:36:10,200
Speaker 1: os and like that's where I learned what a four

1857
01:36:10,280 --> 01:36:13,240
Speaker 1: three defense is. Like he made all that like fun.

1858
01:36:13,680 --> 01:36:15,680
Speaker 1: You know. His love for the game combined with his

1859
01:36:15,760 --> 01:36:18,439
Speaker 1: ability to teacher was incredible. Yeah, And I thought in

1860
01:36:18,560 --> 01:36:22,880
Speaker 1: that uh All Madden documentary when they're talking about you

1861
01:36:22,920 --> 01:36:26,240
Speaker 1: know he's burnt out by coaching. He was fantastically successful

1862
01:36:26,840 --> 01:36:29,200
Speaker 1: um as a head coach for the Raiders. Um had

1863
01:36:29,240 --> 01:36:31,960
Speaker 1: a winning percentage that no one's ever uh sniffed. He

1864
01:36:32,240 --> 01:36:35,880
Speaker 1: he won super Bowls and like he he initially went

1865
01:36:36,000 --> 01:36:39,320
Speaker 1: back into teaching and was teaching a course on football

1866
01:36:39,560 --> 01:36:42,200
Speaker 1: and then he didn't want to go into play by

1867
01:36:42,320 --> 01:36:45,320
Speaker 1: play or color commentary because he just didn't really respect

1868
01:36:45,360 --> 01:36:49,240
Speaker 1: the profession. And when he kind of got talked into

1869
01:36:49,320 --> 01:36:51,920
Speaker 1: and it eventually gave it a try, he went in

1870
01:36:52,000 --> 01:36:54,200
Speaker 1: there to change the way it was done, to make

1871
01:36:54,240 --> 01:36:56,960
Speaker 1: it something that made people smarter. I mean, he saw

1872
01:36:57,000 --> 01:37:00,000
Speaker 1: a guy like and no disrespect to Howard Cosell because

1873
01:37:00,080 --> 01:37:02,040
Speaker 1: he's a legend of his own right, but he saw

1874
01:37:02,080 --> 01:37:04,439
Speaker 1: the way Howard Cosell broke down the game and he's like,

1875
01:37:04,560 --> 01:37:07,400
Speaker 1: that's not that's not smart, that's not the way, that's

1876
01:37:07,439 --> 01:37:09,519
Speaker 1: not how you could teach people more about the sport

1877
01:37:09,600 --> 01:37:12,920
Speaker 1: that he loves. So I think he took that that

1878
01:37:13,080 --> 01:37:15,080
Speaker 1: was the baseline for how he got into the game

1879
01:37:15,120 --> 01:37:18,519
Speaker 1: as a broadcaster to change it, and he absolutely did that.

1880
01:37:18,640 --> 01:37:20,840
Speaker 1: So the guys that you love today, whether it's Romo

1881
01:37:21,000 --> 01:37:25,840
Speaker 1: or Collinsworth, whoever, it may be absolutely indebted to the

1882
01:37:25,920 --> 01:37:28,160
Speaker 1: way Madden did it. And then there's a whole other

1883
01:37:28,240 --> 01:37:31,520
Speaker 1: generation of kids that know it from the video game franchise.

1884
01:37:31,560 --> 01:37:34,320
Speaker 1: And that's very interesting that back story. It's not just

1885
01:37:34,479 --> 01:37:36,360
Speaker 1: like they took his name and slapped him on the box.

1886
01:37:36,439 --> 01:37:41,040
Speaker 1: He was a major figure in making that video game

1887
01:37:41,520 --> 01:37:44,559
Speaker 1: series as popular as it's become, to the point where

1888
01:37:44,920 --> 01:37:49,640
Speaker 1: when initially when there were um, you know, technology was

1889
01:37:49,720 --> 01:37:53,040
Speaker 1: not where it is now, and when he was told, oh,

1890
01:37:53,160 --> 01:37:55,640
Speaker 1: we can't really do eleven on eleven, Matt, it was like,

1891
01:37:55,680 --> 01:37:58,200
Speaker 1: that's a nonstarter. That's not football if it's not eleven

1892
01:37:58,240 --> 01:38:00,840
Speaker 1: on eleven, figure it out. Like he was hands on,

1893
01:38:01,200 --> 01:38:04,920
Speaker 1: so like a fascinating guy, seemed like a really good person,

1894
01:38:05,160 --> 01:38:09,040
Speaker 1: and he will absolutely be missed. Uh Football won't be

1895
01:38:09,080 --> 01:38:11,559
Speaker 1: the same without John Madden. E. But he really wasn't around,

1896
01:38:12,160 --> 01:38:15,000
Speaker 1: uh you know, upfront anymore, just that you knew he

1897
01:38:15,080 --> 01:38:16,479
Speaker 1: was around, and he would pop up every once in

1898
01:38:16,600 --> 01:38:19,000
Speaker 1: a while. Uh. It's it's a sad it's a sad

1899
01:38:19,080 --> 01:38:22,800
Speaker 1: week because of this. Yeah. People, Um, I haven't heard

1900
01:38:22,880 --> 01:38:25,719
Speaker 1: mentioned his books too much. And I really they helped

1901
01:38:25,760 --> 01:38:28,160
Speaker 1: get me into football when I was younger. Here. I

1902
01:38:28,240 --> 01:38:30,000
Speaker 1: remember his first two books. I mean, it's such a

1903
01:38:30,080 --> 01:38:33,439
Speaker 1: Madden title. It's called Hey Wait. It's called Hey Wait

1904
01:38:33,479 --> 01:38:36,360
Speaker 1: a minute. I wrote a book in print, um, and

1905
01:38:36,400 --> 01:38:38,439
Speaker 1: it's what Dave Anderson, who was like this great New

1906
01:38:38,520 --> 01:38:41,080
Speaker 1: York Times football writer too. And his second book I

1907
01:38:41,120 --> 01:38:42,880
Speaker 1: think was one The Equals two Feet And I remember

1908
01:38:42,880 --> 01:38:44,519
Speaker 1: getting those out of the library and stuff and like

1909
01:38:44,600 --> 01:38:48,400
Speaker 1: the same the same way he taught about football on TV,

1910
01:38:48,560 --> 01:38:51,200
Speaker 1: where it was like funny and personable, like it is

1911
01:38:51,240 --> 01:38:55,439
Speaker 1: a great starter pack um, like for kids or adults

1912
01:38:55,520 --> 01:38:57,519
Speaker 1: of like getting into So that's like another thing. And

1913
01:38:57,520 --> 01:39:00,160
Speaker 1: those were like number one New York Times best sells

1914
01:39:00,200 --> 01:39:03,080
Speaker 1: and all that, so it's like another another genre he dominated.

1915
01:39:03,160 --> 01:39:05,000
Speaker 1: Those books still hold up. I remember reading them a

1916
01:39:05,040 --> 01:39:08,160
Speaker 1: little while back. Good stuff and find that doc uh

1917
01:39:08,680 --> 01:39:10,760
Speaker 1: all Matt and that actually came out on Christmas Day,

1918
01:39:10,840 --> 01:39:13,960
Speaker 1: so sad the timing of it. But also he's prominently

1919
01:39:14,000 --> 01:39:16,880
Speaker 1: involved and interviewed uh later in his life here, so

1920
01:39:17,000 --> 01:39:20,680
Speaker 1: you get that kind of last perspective before he left us.

1921
01:39:20,760 --> 01:39:23,320
Speaker 1: And it's airing on Fox Sports a lot, so check

1922
01:39:23,320 --> 01:39:25,280
Speaker 1: it out, including tonight if you happen to catch us

1923
01:39:25,280 --> 01:39:28,920
Speaker 1: before a p m. Eastern and Pacific. All right, that's it.

1924
01:39:30,479 --> 01:39:35,160
Speaker 1: We will be back on Sunday. No broadcast this week. Um,

1925
01:39:36,000 --> 01:39:40,040
Speaker 1: hopefully we'll all be together on Sunday virtually. Mark Sessler,

1926
01:39:40,320 --> 01:39:44,240
Speaker 1: get well soon, my man. Uh And um, Greg you

1927
01:39:44,479 --> 01:39:47,920
Speaker 1: you stay out of the uh the clubs. Uh. It's

1928
01:39:48,000 --> 01:39:51,280
Speaker 1: New Year's Eve tomorrow night, Ricky. I say that as

1929
01:39:51,320 --> 01:39:53,560
Speaker 1: a joke to Greg, but I say it seriously to you.

1930
01:39:54,800 --> 01:39:57,599
Speaker 1: Let's let's not get too crazy in the party scene.

1931
01:39:58,360 --> 01:40:01,200
Speaker 1: We don't want to lose you you uh yeah, that

1932
01:40:01,360 --> 01:40:04,320
Speaker 1: amount of time. What are you gonna do? What's Ricky

1933
01:40:04,400 --> 01:40:08,080
Speaker 1: Hollywood do when there's a pandemic raging out of control?

1934
01:40:08,160 --> 01:40:10,000
Speaker 1: In New Year's Eve is here? What is Ricky going

1935
01:40:10,040 --> 01:40:13,080
Speaker 1: to do? What decisions does Ricky make in this spot? Well?

1936
01:40:13,240 --> 01:40:16,639
Speaker 1: I traveled on Monday. So I'm still waiting to see

1937
01:40:16,920 --> 01:40:19,160
Speaker 1: knock on. What if I get sick? Been drinking a

1938
01:40:19,200 --> 01:40:22,920
Speaker 1: lot of immunity boosting and stuff like that, so just

1939
01:40:23,040 --> 01:40:27,760
Speaker 1: try Russell Wilson's concussion water. Yeah, so all that, all

1940
01:40:27,840 --> 01:40:30,240
Speaker 1: that good stuff. Um, but no, I think just Emma

1941
01:40:30,320 --> 01:40:31,800
Speaker 1: and Brett are going to come over and we're going

1942
01:40:31,880 --> 01:40:35,800
Speaker 1: to order some Chinese food. And Brett's definitely got that's

1943
01:40:35,800 --> 01:40:39,680
Speaker 1: a human super spreader. He's asymptomatic like he's like, but

1944
01:40:39,880 --> 01:40:43,360
Speaker 1: he just spreads it. One man super spreader, that Brett. Yeah, yeah,

1945
01:40:43,479 --> 01:40:45,920
Speaker 1: he's all over town. No, we were all just we're

1946
01:40:45,920 --> 01:40:48,880
Speaker 1: gonna order some Chinese food and make a charcouterie board.

1947
01:40:50,280 --> 01:40:54,080
Speaker 1: Pretty wild. That's that's good. This is your last New

1948
01:40:54,160 --> 01:40:56,679
Speaker 1: Year's in your twenties, that's going out and it sucks.

1949
01:40:56,880 --> 01:41:00,479
Speaker 1: It's a smart way to do it though, overrating that sense,

1950
01:41:00,479 --> 01:41:02,960
Speaker 1: all right, Yeah, sure, goods up all the listeners, Happy

1951
01:41:03,040 --> 01:41:06,080
Speaker 1: New Year. I have a safe, healthy New Year. We'll

1952
01:41:06,120 --> 01:41:40,320
Speaker 1: see on Sunday. Until then, beat the fall. M