1 00:00:00,680 --> 00:00:03,280 Speaker 1: Hey, look amos, we have a quick announcement about our 2 00:00:03,320 --> 00:00:06,000 Speaker 1: I Fund Women campaign. As you may have heard, we're 3 00:00:06,080 --> 00:00:09,600 Speaker 1: raising one hundred thousand dollars to cover the startup costs 4 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:12,440 Speaker 1: of look at A Productions and pay our team. We 5 00:00:12,480 --> 00:00:14,520 Speaker 1: are well on our way to reaching our goal, but 6 00:00:14,600 --> 00:00:17,000 Speaker 1: we still need your help to get there. If all 7 00:00:17,040 --> 00:00:20,319 Speaker 1: of our listeners and one friend donated five dollars, we 8 00:00:20,320 --> 00:00:24,000 Speaker 1: would meet our goal well before ninety days. 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We are trying 39 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:50,200 Speaker 1: to raise a hundred thousand dollars in ninety days so 40 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 1: that we can launch our very own production house and um, 41 00:02:53,960 --> 00:02:58,160 Speaker 1: as you can imagine, that's quite an expensive undertaking. We 42 00:02:58,320 --> 00:03:03,880 Speaker 1: just hit our ten k milestone on our campaign, so 43 00:03:04,639 --> 00:03:07,799 Speaker 1: a bunch of you and twenty four funders to be exact, 44 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:12,160 Speaker 1: have contributed ten thou dollars towards look at that our productions. 45 00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:15,240 Speaker 1: It's super exciting, um and we want to just shout 46 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:18,520 Speaker 1: out some of our pod friends who have donated incentives 47 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:21,760 Speaker 1: as well as our funders who have contributed thus far. 48 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:26,400 Speaker 1: So we want to quickly thank Joy of Build with 49 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:32,799 Speaker 1: Joy yakl j Gali Fajardo Anstein and Joanna of the 50 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:37,640 Speaker 1: Unapologetically Street series. 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So we want to 58 00:03:58,760 --> 00:04:06,400 Speaker 1: thank Diana Kimberly Ortega, Elizabeth George Lopez, y CEO supporter, 59 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:13,600 Speaker 1: Ivana yes Sena, Alejandra Kimberly Luton said here and Emilda 60 00:04:13,920 --> 00:04:17,440 Speaker 1: by the If you haven't heard your name just yet, 61 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:20,839 Speaker 1: don't worry, we will get to it on the next episode. 62 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 1: And if you haven't had a chance to check out 63 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:29,520 Speaker 1: our I Fund Women crowdfund campaign, give it a review. 64 00:04:29,960 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 1: You'll see that there are different levels and tears of 65 00:04:34,400 --> 00:04:38,279 Speaker 1: contributions that come with their own incentives. And I think 66 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:42,480 Speaker 1: one of the coolest incentives other than the really awesome 67 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:48,240 Speaker 1: art pieces, books, portraits, natal chart readings that are pod 68 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:52,440 Speaker 1: friends UM have donated to our campaign. But one of 69 00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:55,920 Speaker 1: the incentives to contributing to our I Fund campaign our 70 00:04:55,960 --> 00:04:58,680 Speaker 1: I Fund Women campaign is a one on one consultation 71 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:03,280 Speaker 1: with us about podcasting, about brand building. We have already 72 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:08,680 Speaker 1: conducted a couple of consultations with listeners and funders Eric 73 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:14,200 Speaker 1: Galindo for example, UM and Riquel Richard, who are both journalists, 74 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:18,120 Speaker 1: and they conducted their consultations with us and it was 75 00:05:18,120 --> 00:05:21,120 Speaker 1: a lot of fun. We're really enjoying them. So check 76 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:24,080 Speaker 1: out our iphoned Women campaign at iphoned women dot com. 77 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:27,440 Speaker 1: Forward slash projects forward slash to look at the dash productions. 78 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:30,599 Speaker 1: That is a mouthful, and you're always so good at 79 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:33,159 Speaker 1: saying it, which is always why I leave it to 80 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:42,640 Speaker 1: you because it never fails. I always get tongue tied. Yes, teamwork, teamwork. Um. Alright, y'all, 81 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:45,320 Speaker 1: So we have a couple of segments today before we 82 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:50,200 Speaker 1: get into the garden today's episode. So first we want 83 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:52,559 Speaker 1: to bring back a listener fave. It's been a minute 84 00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 1: since we've done it. We want to bring back oh yelocas. 85 00:05:56,080 --> 00:05:59,920 Speaker 1: We have some questions. Y'all have asked some questions. Uh, 86 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:04,440 Speaker 1: and this the first one is short one, a fun one, um, 87 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:07,120 Speaker 1: and it's about I love that the listener called this 88 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:11,640 Speaker 1: crazy shit white women have done. How do I enter 89 00:06:12,080 --> 00:06:15,080 Speaker 1: my own experience? How do I share my own experience? 90 00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:17,800 Speaker 1: And so we actually have a fun new way for 91 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:20,360 Speaker 1: y'all to connect with us to either ask your question 92 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:24,920 Speaker 1: or leave a voice memo about an upcoming episode. Mama, 93 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:27,480 Speaker 1: do you want to share with our locomotive? Is what's 94 00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:30,840 Speaker 1: new to the website. Yes, if you visit our website 95 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:35,400 Speaker 1: look at our radio dot com, you're gonna see a 96 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:40,720 Speaker 1: voice memo feature that will allow you to upload and 97 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:46,159 Speaker 1: record your very own voice memo directly to our website. 98 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:49,800 Speaker 1: We'll receive it, will review them, and you just might 99 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:53,640 Speaker 1: hear your voice memo on a future cup of look 100 00:06:53,640 --> 00:06:55,840 Speaker 1: at thought our Radio. So if you have your own 101 00:06:55,920 --> 00:06:58,680 Speaker 1: stories of a weird thing that a white woman has 102 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:01,520 Speaker 1: done in the world, you can have to look at 103 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:04,920 Speaker 1: our Radio dot com and share that story as a 104 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:08,200 Speaker 1: voice memo. We can either say your name and shout 105 00:07:08,240 --> 00:07:10,640 Speaker 1: you out on a future episode, or we can keep 106 00:07:10,680 --> 00:07:14,080 Speaker 1: you anonymous and just play your voice memo. So yeah, 107 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:17,400 Speaker 1: check that out. Also, if you want to submit a 108 00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:22,480 Speaker 1: question for Oya Locas via this really cool addition to 109 00:07:22,520 --> 00:07:25,640 Speaker 1: the website, this voice memo feature, you're welcome to do 110 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:28,240 Speaker 1: that as well. And also we plan on having some 111 00:07:29,440 --> 00:07:32,800 Speaker 1: future episodes where folks can quote call in and so 112 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:34,840 Speaker 1: that will be one way that you can call in 113 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:37,560 Speaker 1: and share your experience depending on what we're talking about 114 00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:41,320 Speaker 1: via that episode. Um. And also, like, don't send us 115 00:07:41,320 --> 00:07:44,920 Speaker 1: any weird shit, Okay, like yeah, not too weird, not 116 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:48,760 Speaker 1: too weird. You know, there's there's a line. Be reasonable 117 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:52,360 Speaker 1: if you're if you're a straight man listening, please don't 118 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:56,800 Speaker 1: send us anything weird. Please behave Yes, that's that's what 119 00:07:56,840 --> 00:08:03,559 Speaker 1: I'm getting at. Behave please, um, because we're not above 120 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:07,520 Speaker 1: shaming people publicly. Is the other thing? Remember that be 121 00:08:08,200 --> 00:08:12,160 Speaker 1: be weary we're we can be nice, but we also 122 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:17,640 Speaker 1: you know, respect the boundaries and right to put anybody 123 00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:20,560 Speaker 1: in check if we have to. And it's a it's 124 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 1: it's like, you know, look, if you send it to us, 125 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:28,360 Speaker 1: you've given it to us basically, you know what I mean. 126 00:08:29,240 --> 00:08:33,880 Speaker 1: You did not send us a bilateral n d A 127 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:37,520 Speaker 1: attached to your voice memo. So just remember that if 128 00:08:37,520 --> 00:08:40,480 Speaker 1: you want to be creepy, right, this is true. This 129 00:08:40,600 --> 00:08:42,760 Speaker 1: is true. It is true of the d m s 130 00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:48,120 Speaker 1: as well, you know, yes, just know anyway, So that's 131 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:52,080 Speaker 1: a new addition, so check it out. If you're a 132 00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:54,199 Speaker 1: little nervous, a little shy, you don't want to do that, 133 00:08:54,280 --> 00:08:56,600 Speaker 1: you can always email us and just put in the 134 00:08:56,640 --> 00:09:00,600 Speaker 1: headline or Yoloka's weird things why women did or you 135 00:09:00,640 --> 00:09:03,120 Speaker 1: know a future episode that we have planned. You can 136 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:07,000 Speaker 1: put that whatever name that is in the uh in 137 00:09:07,080 --> 00:09:11,840 Speaker 1: the line in the subject line. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, wait, 138 00:09:12,040 --> 00:09:20,120 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, MS, can I share? Okay? So weird weirdoes 139 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:21,800 Speaker 1: send us d m s all the time where we 140 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:24,720 Speaker 1: talked about it. So I posted something to my story, 141 00:09:25,480 --> 00:09:32,600 Speaker 1: some disgusting man sent me a d M and he goes, right, 142 00:09:32,679 --> 00:09:36,360 Speaker 1: I think that's what he said. And then Patty Rodriguez 143 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:42,640 Speaker 1: d M me because I posted that man's message with 144 00:09:42,720 --> 00:09:46,000 Speaker 1: his picture. I posted that man's d M you know 145 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:50,000 Speaker 1: that one. I posted it to my story and it 146 00:09:50,040 --> 00:09:53,080 Speaker 1: has his his little profile picture in it um and 147 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:56,280 Speaker 1: then Patty Rodriguez DM me and she goes, oh my god, 148 00:09:56,320 --> 00:10:01,000 Speaker 1: that's my husband. And I was I was wait, wait, 149 00:10:01,679 --> 00:10:04,040 Speaker 1: this is this? Is this a joke? Why would someone? 150 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:07,679 Speaker 1: Why would you why? I was so stressed out and 151 00:10:07,679 --> 00:10:13,959 Speaker 1: I was so stressed. I texted, why did you do this? Patty? 152 00:10:14,559 --> 00:10:16,760 Speaker 1: And then I was like, oh my god. I was like, 153 00:10:16,840 --> 00:10:19,560 Speaker 1: Patty girl, what okay? I deleted it for my story. 154 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:22,880 Speaker 1: I got nervous. I got scared because I was like, 155 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:26,559 Speaker 1: this is sticky like But then Patty was like, oh no, 156 00:10:26,640 --> 00:10:28,320 Speaker 1: I was joking. I thought you would get it, and 157 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:30,960 Speaker 1: I was like, no, I didn't get it because that 158 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:36,040 Speaker 1: has actually happened. Like that has happened other like followers 159 00:10:36,160 --> 00:10:39,960 Speaker 1: have shared you know that their men, their man, their husband, 160 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:42,520 Speaker 1: their boyfriend has gotten caught up either in like the 161 00:10:42,760 --> 00:10:45,040 Speaker 1: r d M s or friends DM so like, this 162 00:10:45,080 --> 00:10:49,040 Speaker 1: isn't this is like commonplace this happens. But it was 163 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:51,880 Speaker 1: so funny when MoMA like called me all stressed. I 164 00:10:51,960 --> 00:10:56,080 Speaker 1: was like, Mama, I'm pretty sure she's joking. Like yeah, 165 00:10:56,120 --> 00:10:58,080 Speaker 1: I was like, she has to be joked. It has 166 00:10:58,120 --> 00:11:00,640 Speaker 1: to be a joke, right, get it has to be 167 00:11:00,679 --> 00:11:02,679 Speaker 1: a joke. And I'm was like, no, it's not. And 168 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:04,840 Speaker 1: I was like, I mean, maybe it's not right, and 169 00:11:04,880 --> 00:11:09,640 Speaker 1: then thank god, it turned out it wasn't. It was like, 170 00:11:10,120 --> 00:11:13,560 Speaker 1: betch just a thing, like it really could have been exactly. 171 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:16,120 Speaker 1: I mean, it could be anyone's husband. I'm sure it's 172 00:11:16,160 --> 00:11:22,120 Speaker 1: somebody's someone something. It's someone something. Come get your person. 173 00:11:22,440 --> 00:11:25,040 Speaker 1: Your guys out here whiling out at my d M. 174 00:11:25,600 --> 00:11:27,760 Speaker 1: So all that to say, I will post your wild 175 00:11:27,840 --> 00:11:30,800 Speaker 1: d M to my school, Yes, and I will see it. 176 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:40,000 Speaker 1: It's true that all um. Okay, moving on to something 177 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:42,800 Speaker 1: a little more tame. We got a question that I 178 00:11:42,840 --> 00:11:46,800 Speaker 1: wanted to address because this person asked, have y'all ever 179 00:11:46,840 --> 00:11:50,480 Speaker 1: done workshops for public schools? And so we've done like 180 00:11:50,520 --> 00:11:54,640 Speaker 1: the some public universities. You haven't done any public high 181 00:11:54,679 --> 00:11:58,000 Speaker 1: schools or elementary schools. We've been invited, but because their 182 00:11:58,080 --> 00:12:02,000 Speaker 1: children there's during the day and we have always worked, 183 00:12:02,520 --> 00:12:04,760 Speaker 1: you know, our jobs during the day, and so the 184 00:12:04,800 --> 00:12:09,400 Speaker 1: scheduling has never worked out, but um, you know, hopefully 185 00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:12,880 Speaker 1: we will be able to know um post pandemic once 186 00:12:12,880 --> 00:12:15,920 Speaker 1: schre So you know for bookings you can email us 187 00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:19,040 Speaker 1: at all at look at radio dot com. Yeah, we'll 188 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:22,480 Speaker 1: go to any school honestly, UM, I mean as long 189 00:12:22,559 --> 00:12:28,000 Speaker 1: as you know there is like an invitation. We're down 190 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:30,480 Speaker 1: budget and a budget and a budget because we do 191 00:12:30,559 --> 00:12:33,080 Speaker 1: need an honorarium because as you may know, we do this. 192 00:12:33,080 --> 00:12:34,880 Speaker 1: This is our job, this is what we do, this 193 00:12:34,960 --> 00:12:37,840 Speaker 1: is our profession, this is our art. YadA, YadA, YadA. 194 00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:42,080 Speaker 1: But we have so we haven't gone to a public 195 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:44,839 Speaker 1: school to have a workshop, but we have also provided 196 00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:48,800 Speaker 1: what workshops for public school students at like the Latina 197 00:12:48,920 --> 00:12:53,080 Speaker 1: Conference in South l A. And when we did the 198 00:12:53,160 --> 00:12:58,079 Speaker 1: Mitcha Youth conference up in where where we Oregon that 199 00:12:58,400 --> 00:13:02,200 Speaker 1: yeah so then you mean yeah, yeah, so anywhere you 200 00:13:02,200 --> 00:13:05,959 Speaker 1: know if if with youth with like high schoolers and stuff. 201 00:13:06,240 --> 00:13:08,600 Speaker 1: So did them. We had to see the conference that 202 00:13:08,679 --> 00:13:13,400 Speaker 1: you yeah, with the youth. We had them recite like 203 00:13:13,760 --> 00:13:17,800 Speaker 1: a look I manifesto. It was really cute. Um. Yeah, 204 00:13:17,840 --> 00:13:20,840 Speaker 1: So we have engaged with the youth, the public school 205 00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:25,320 Speaker 1: UM children that attend public schools, but we have yet 206 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:27,960 Speaker 1: to actually be able to go because of scheduling and 207 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:30,679 Speaker 1: timing and all of that. So hopefully moving forward will 208 00:13:30,679 --> 00:13:34,120 Speaker 1: be able to pe to Yeah, but conferences for sure. 209 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:39,360 Speaker 1: Let's see. Um the next question, can you guys talk 210 00:13:39,480 --> 00:13:43,120 Speaker 1: about abortions? Well, there's just so many things to say 211 00:13:43,160 --> 00:13:48,360 Speaker 1: about abortions, So I mean, yes, we are pro abortion. 212 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:54,400 Speaker 1: Were pro abortion. If you have not caught onto that 213 00:13:54,440 --> 00:13:59,280 Speaker 1: by now, you know, go back. We're very pro abortion here. 214 00:13:59,360 --> 00:14:03,440 Speaker 1: I wrote in our article about language surrounding abortions and 215 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:07,120 Speaker 1: how it should be inclusive to all genders, right, because 216 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:11,640 Speaker 1: a lot of the conversation gets, um, you know, centered 217 00:14:11,679 --> 00:14:15,880 Speaker 1: around quote womanhood, a woman's right to choose. And while women, 218 00:14:16,400 --> 00:14:23,200 Speaker 1: um do get abortions right, not only do abortions abortion 219 00:14:23,280 --> 00:14:27,840 Speaker 1: services apply to just as gender women. Uh. So you know, 220 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:31,080 Speaker 1: we're definitely pro choice here, and we let each other 221 00:14:31,120 --> 00:14:33,240 Speaker 1: know whenever we're out and about in the world and 222 00:14:33,280 --> 00:14:38,120 Speaker 1: there's some anti choice situation happening at an enabled clinic, 223 00:14:39,400 --> 00:14:43,440 Speaker 1: any kind of confrontations we may have, we definitely experienced 224 00:14:43,480 --> 00:14:48,200 Speaker 1: those here in l A. Yeah, and it's wild because 225 00:14:48,600 --> 00:14:54,720 Speaker 1: I see women posting about you know, very casually like 226 00:14:54,920 --> 00:14:57,440 Speaker 1: all of us do at one point or another going 227 00:14:57,440 --> 00:14:59,720 Speaker 1: to the women's clinic or in a planned parenthood for 228 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:04,200 Speaker 1: a multitude of reasons. And it seems like it's not 229 00:15:04,360 --> 00:15:09,120 Speaker 1: that uncommon. Um, it's like kind of often that women 230 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:13,400 Speaker 1: we know are we ourselves are met with you know, 231 00:15:13,800 --> 00:15:19,880 Speaker 1: anti choice, anti abortion, you know, demonstrators in front of 232 00:15:19,920 --> 00:15:22,800 Speaker 1: the plant parenthood. It's very bizarre. They're very active, they're 233 00:15:22,800 --> 00:15:25,560 Speaker 1: out there. There's also like a Venn diagram of like 234 00:15:25,800 --> 00:15:32,520 Speaker 1: anti choice people and like not and non like mask wearers. 235 00:15:32,560 --> 00:15:36,360 Speaker 1: Because I was I was getting my car service near 236 00:15:36,400 --> 00:15:38,880 Speaker 1: a plant parenthood, and so when I was driving, I 237 00:15:38,920 --> 00:15:43,080 Speaker 1: saw like groups of people um with their like little 238 00:15:43,200 --> 00:15:46,680 Speaker 1: dumbass posters, and of course all of them were maskless. 239 00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:50,320 Speaker 1: There were children there. It was a ship show in 240 00:15:50,480 --> 00:15:54,160 Speaker 1: uptown Whittier, and I was like appalled because even in 241 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:57,400 Speaker 1: a pandemic, folks are harassing people that are trying to 242 00:15:57,440 --> 00:16:03,600 Speaker 1: receive health care services. It's a mess. It's a mess, 243 00:16:03,640 --> 00:16:05,560 Speaker 1: and it's like you could just stay home and mind 244 00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:10,760 Speaker 1: your in business. Um. Any who, we could probably do 245 00:16:11,280 --> 00:16:16,680 Speaker 1: a full episode on abortion. We are also behind the 246 00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:23,040 Speaker 1: scenes working on new material that will definitely touch on 247 00:16:23,080 --> 00:16:28,600 Speaker 1: reproductive justice. Not just abortion, but you know that that 248 00:16:28,640 --> 00:16:32,600 Speaker 1: whole topic engen neural, so just look out for that. 249 00:16:32,680 --> 00:16:35,280 Speaker 1: It's coming. It's coming. Also just off the top of 250 00:16:35,320 --> 00:16:37,800 Speaker 1: my head, because we've we've covered so many different things 251 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:40,680 Speaker 1: that look at that our radio. We also interviewed Milli Nabobadilla, 252 00:16:41,720 --> 00:16:46,400 Speaker 1: yes starred and produced the produce the film for Rosa, 253 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:50,720 Speaker 1: which is about the Mariten. We also had Brianna Ross 254 00:16:50,800 --> 00:16:53,880 Speaker 1: who works upon parenthood, and we talked about reproductive justice 255 00:16:53,920 --> 00:16:57,120 Speaker 1: and these were both at Both interviews were season four 256 00:16:57,440 --> 00:17:00,320 Speaker 1: last summer, so you can check those out any of 257 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:04,840 Speaker 1: the streaming platforms. And Molina's film that she started for 258 00:17:05,160 --> 00:17:10,000 Speaker 1: Rosa was just picked up by HBO. Like to stream 259 00:17:10,240 --> 00:17:15,400 Speaker 1: Yeah exciting. I love when our friends and past guests 260 00:17:16,080 --> 00:17:19,120 Speaker 1: are doing amazing things oh yeah, oh yeah, and and 261 00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:22,960 Speaker 1: get like the recognition they deserve. And that's I think 262 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:25,639 Speaker 1: the whole mission, right, like archiving the brilliance of women 263 00:17:25,680 --> 00:17:28,520 Speaker 1: of color. And I think when Molina told us about 264 00:17:28,520 --> 00:17:30,800 Speaker 1: the film, and what's interesting about the film is this 265 00:17:30,880 --> 00:17:35,879 Speaker 1: is a short film, an indie film that was directed 266 00:17:36,040 --> 00:17:41,280 Speaker 1: and created by a film student at the USC Film School. 267 00:17:41,359 --> 00:17:43,199 Speaker 1: I think she's like a math and m f a 268 00:17:43,840 --> 00:17:49,240 Speaker 1: um and Um. She created this film for her studies 269 00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:53,800 Speaker 1: and Julie Martinez is executive producer. Molina is the lead 270 00:17:53,920 --> 00:17:57,520 Speaker 1: role um leading lady, but she also is a producer 271 00:17:57,560 --> 00:18:00,080 Speaker 1: on the film. And when she told us about it 272 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:03,200 Speaker 1: and when it was first you know, coming out, and 273 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:06,160 Speaker 1: she gave us like a screener. I remember we were 274 00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:08,880 Speaker 1: we were saying, like, we definitely need to have Molina 275 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:12,199 Speaker 1: on because we need to to talk to her at 276 00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:14,439 Speaker 1: the beginnings of this process because who knows where the 277 00:18:14,440 --> 00:18:17,200 Speaker 1: film will end up and now here we are. Yes, 278 00:18:17,359 --> 00:18:19,600 Speaker 1: that is, like you said, Mala, that's like one of 279 00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:24,320 Speaker 1: the most exciting things about archiving the experiences of women 280 00:18:24,359 --> 00:18:27,760 Speaker 1: of color and the stories of our friends, UM is 281 00:18:27,800 --> 00:18:31,400 Speaker 1: seeing their journeys. Um. I was recently on a podcast 282 00:18:31,800 --> 00:18:35,000 Speaker 1: called pod Brods and we both were on separately and 283 00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:38,960 Speaker 1: shout out, shout out pod Brods, shout out padre Lands, 284 00:18:39,160 --> 00:18:43,040 Speaker 1: and she asked me about archiving and like one of 285 00:18:43,080 --> 00:18:46,239 Speaker 1: the examples I gave was like Romo right and like 286 00:18:46,359 --> 00:18:50,119 Speaker 1: Galifajardo Anstein and now like mill and really all of 287 00:18:50,160 --> 00:18:52,480 Speaker 1: our guests, but like those are the ones that off 288 00:18:52,480 --> 00:18:54,399 Speaker 1: the top of my head right now, and to see 289 00:18:54,440 --> 00:18:57,600 Speaker 1: like where their work was, where they were as people 290 00:18:57,680 --> 00:18:59,760 Speaker 1: when we interviewed them, and then where they are now. 291 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:03,000 Speaker 1: You know, it's so exciting and like we love seeing 292 00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:06,760 Speaker 1: them shine. Yeah. Absolutely, And thus is the Look at 293 00:19:06,760 --> 00:19:11,200 Speaker 1: Thota mission. Because we knew that everyone was destined for greatness, 294 00:19:11,280 --> 00:19:13,280 Speaker 1: it was just a matter of well, let's just get 295 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:15,800 Speaker 1: the interview and we'll get the tape and you know, 296 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:18,520 Speaker 1: we'll share the story and then people can come back 297 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:20,880 Speaker 1: and say, wow, okay, this is this is a little 298 00:19:20,880 --> 00:19:23,879 Speaker 1: bit of the beginnings of all these different people. One 299 00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:26,080 Speaker 1: day people are going to call it the look method 300 00:19:26,520 --> 00:19:30,000 Speaker 1: or like the Look Touch. Yes, just putting it out there, now, 301 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:38,600 Speaker 1: out there tm tm t m um truly that being said, um, 302 00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:42,399 Speaker 1: the Look at Touch. We have another segment that I 303 00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:45,119 Speaker 1: think a lot of people like that you can only 304 00:19:45,160 --> 00:19:48,360 Speaker 1: find here on Look at Our Radio. No other podcasts 305 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:50,720 Speaker 1: have this segment, and that's Weird Things White Women Did 306 00:19:50,760 --> 00:19:54,480 Speaker 1: this Week. So you know, of course this is supposed 307 00:19:54,520 --> 00:19:56,440 Speaker 1: to be a little tongue tongue in cheek and a 308 00:19:56,480 --> 00:19:59,879 Speaker 1: little comedic, and the word weird is kind of loosely used. 309 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:03,720 Speaker 1: But the segment, I think is also a place where 310 00:20:03,760 --> 00:20:08,440 Speaker 1: we can talk about a little more severe acts that 311 00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:12,080 Speaker 1: white women engage in, from Karen behavior to straight up 312 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:16,879 Speaker 1: white supremacy, right. Um. And so the white lady in 313 00:20:16,960 --> 00:20:21,760 Speaker 1: question this week is one Nancy Pelosi. So if you 314 00:20:22,119 --> 00:20:25,640 Speaker 1: are in any way, shape or form keeping up with 315 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:31,359 Speaker 1: current events, you have probably been um watching the Derek 316 00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:35,199 Speaker 1: Chauvin trial and you probably saw that Derek Chobin was 317 00:20:35,240 --> 00:20:39,359 Speaker 1: found guilty um of like all three counts right that 318 00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:44,159 Speaker 1: he was being charged with. And in the aftermath of 319 00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:52,240 Speaker 1: those guilty verdicts being shared, Nancy Pelosi made a statement about, 320 00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:56,080 Speaker 1: you know, George Floyd essentially like sacrificing his life for justice. 321 00:20:56,720 --> 00:20:58,720 Speaker 1: So you know, a lot of people have been talking 322 00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:06,119 Speaker 1: about online this kind of um constant involuntary making of 323 00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:10,360 Speaker 1: martyrs of uh people who have been murdered by police 324 00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:14,080 Speaker 1: and black people in particular, right, And so here we 325 00:21:14,119 --> 00:21:18,280 Speaker 1: have Nancy Pelosi. There was also like an Instagram influencer 326 00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:21,720 Speaker 1: who is a white woman and she post and this 327 00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:24,919 Speaker 1: is something that a lot of I think Instagram influencers do, 328 00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:28,159 Speaker 1: UM and this woman is just one example. And I 329 00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:30,600 Speaker 1: could not find her handle on her page for the 330 00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:34,359 Speaker 1: life of me. But she posed kind of you know, 331 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:38,240 Speaker 1: like fashion e shots of herself um on her Instagram 332 00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:42,040 Speaker 1: and the caption was like about about George Floyd and 333 00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:45,159 Speaker 1: about justice and about you know, the trial, but the 334 00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:49,040 Speaker 1: pictures were her and being like fashion model, i G 335 00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:55,000 Speaker 1: influencer moment. So you know, just reminders to write like 336 00:21:55,240 --> 00:21:57,680 Speaker 1: this is not about you, This is not about us, 337 00:21:57,760 --> 00:22:00,080 Speaker 1: like especially if you are a non black person, and 338 00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:02,520 Speaker 1: like it's not about us, and it's not about you, 339 00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:07,920 Speaker 1: and it's not a good time to like center ourselves 340 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:11,919 Speaker 1: in the midst of so much pain and suffering, you know. 341 00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:14,399 Speaker 1: So that those are a couple of weird things that 342 00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:17,960 Speaker 1: white women did this week, and I wish that they hadn't. Yeah, 343 00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:21,879 Speaker 1: like Mala mentioned, like weird things is a loose term, 344 00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:25,640 Speaker 1: like because when we were talking about, including Nancy Pelosi, 345 00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:29,320 Speaker 1: I was like, horrific things white women did this week, 346 00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:33,520 Speaker 1: because like, really it can be interchangeable, the weird things, 347 00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:37,040 Speaker 1: you know, that that particular phrase, because sometimes some funded 348 00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:40,600 Speaker 1: up things happen, some white supremacist things happen, and we 349 00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:45,280 Speaker 1: have to address it. And so this this week, Nancy Pelosi, 350 00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:50,400 Speaker 1: what the fuck? This week? It was Nancy I Nancy 351 00:22:50,400 --> 00:23:34,679 Speaker 1: why m um um um um um um of it? 352 00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:41,240 Speaker 1: And little Ship Planet Parenthood asked me to show someone 353 00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:45,360 Speaker 1: how I see them, like really see them, So this 354 00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:48,119 Speaker 1: ad is dedicated to none other than you, the ASA. 355 00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:53,600 Speaker 1: I see you going out on runs every day, trying 356 00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:57,359 Speaker 1: to reach personal goals and personal best because you're training 357 00:23:57,400 --> 00:24:00,040 Speaker 1: for half marathon. I see the way that you go 358 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:02,760 Speaker 1: go all out. You are putting your endurance to the 359 00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:05,399 Speaker 1: test your training, and I see you as someone willing 360 00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:08,720 Speaker 1: to try new things and to work tirelessly to meet 361 00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:11,000 Speaker 1: your goals. And I feel very lucky to get to 362 00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:14,919 Speaker 1: see you in that journey. Thanks girl. Yeah, it's definitely 363 00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:18,160 Speaker 1: a new goal of mine. You know I'm challenging myself 364 00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:21,280 Speaker 1: and you know I'm trying to inspire others as well. 365 00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:26,520 Speaker 1: Similarly to Planned Parenthood, thank you for seeing me. Planned 366 00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:30,119 Speaker 1: parenthood sees you, truly sees you, not as patients, but 367 00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:35,560 Speaker 1: as people deserving of understanding and compassionate quality healthcare and education. 368 00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:38,960 Speaker 1: Not only that, but they understand the importance of having 369 00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:42,720 Speaker 1: access to that care so you can define exactly where 370 00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:47,200 Speaker 1: you're going. Visit www dot bcne dot org to learn 371 00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:49,720 Speaker 1: more about how Planned Parenthood is here to see you 372 00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:53,840 Speaker 1: become who you will be. That's www dot b Scene 373 00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:57,040 Speaker 1: dot Org. We did a look as we did weird 374 00:24:57,040 --> 00:24:59,040 Speaker 1: things White women did this week. Now it's time to 375 00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:02,479 Speaker 1: get into the gardener. The meat. The main course of 376 00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:05,880 Speaker 1: this episode, we are talking about the podcasting industry. We're 377 00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:09,639 Speaker 1: gonna talk about ourselves in the podcasting industry, Latin X 378 00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:15,280 Speaker 1: audiences and Latin X podcasters in the industry, and also, um, 379 00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:20,600 Speaker 1: some straight up discrimination, racism, and sexism in the podcasting industry. 380 00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:26,080 Speaker 1: It's kind of wild, you guys, if your podcast listeners, um, 381 00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:30,880 Speaker 1: but maybe you're not like following podcast creators, or you're 382 00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:33,800 Speaker 1: not reading about podcast industry news. You're not like really 383 00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:36,520 Speaker 1: in the weeds and like nerd ing out on like 384 00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:39,600 Speaker 1: you know, the production and industry side of things. This 385 00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:43,920 Speaker 1: might be new information, and I think it's kind of juicy. 386 00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:46,480 Speaker 1: It's a little wild. And because we're like dipping our 387 00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:50,320 Speaker 1: toes now into networks and studios and like really professionalizing, 388 00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:53,400 Speaker 1: we're getting speak peaks of some of this stuff for ourselves. 389 00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:57,080 Speaker 1: So we're gonna share a little bit today. Right. It's 390 00:25:57,160 --> 00:26:02,680 Speaker 1: like always wild to me, like the levels of systemic 391 00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:10,880 Speaker 1: racism and discrimination because of course, like any type of workplace, 392 00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:15,480 Speaker 1: any type of there's so many environments where that is replicated, right, 393 00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:20,320 Speaker 1: and like that toxic workplace culture is just normalized. Right. 394 00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:25,040 Speaker 1: And it's surprise also in the podcasting industry, not not 395 00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:27,320 Speaker 1: that big of a surprise, right, especially when you take 396 00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:30,919 Speaker 1: into account who's at the top, Who are the CEOs, 397 00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:34,240 Speaker 1: who are the heads of major podcasting networks. They tend 398 00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:36,960 Speaker 1: to be white men, or they tend to be white people. Um. 399 00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:42,760 Speaker 1: There have been like emerging podcasting houses and networks such 400 00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:47,880 Speaker 1: as ours and other women of color owned um podcasting 401 00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:50,720 Speaker 1: networks and houses. However, we're gonna be talking about some 402 00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:52,359 Speaker 1: of the bigger ones today and also some of the 403 00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:57,720 Speaker 1: experiences of podcast producers that were formerly at networks and 404 00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:01,600 Speaker 1: you know, they've written blogs and published articles, so we're 405 00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:04,320 Speaker 1: going to be citing some of that, and like Mola said, 406 00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:07,760 Speaker 1: talking about the listenership and what does the Latin X 407 00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:13,000 Speaker 1: audience look like in So it's interesting because at this 408 00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:16,720 Speaker 1: stage of the podcasting game, and podcasting is an industry 409 00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:20,320 Speaker 1: compared to other industries publishing or what have you, music 410 00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:25,080 Speaker 1: is relatively young still. You know, we feel like we've 411 00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:27,760 Speaker 1: been doing this forever and there are podcasts that are 412 00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:31,280 Speaker 1: way older than us. But really it's still a very 413 00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:34,760 Speaker 1: very young industry, and so we're still learning about it 414 00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:38,639 Speaker 1: and it's changing rapidly. But we are at a place 415 00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:42,159 Speaker 1: where there is some research and there are some studies 416 00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:47,720 Speaker 1: about listenership and audiences and trends and some breakdowns by 417 00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:52,359 Speaker 1: like race and ethnicity, and so something that's really interesting 418 00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:58,000 Speaker 1: I think is that in the past year, essentially right UM, 419 00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:03,200 Speaker 1: Latino podcast listeners have increased UM by a significant amount. 420 00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:05,359 Speaker 1: And one of the studies that we have been referencing 421 00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:10,800 Speaker 1: is the Edison Research study. So UM Latinos have increased 422 00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:15,680 Speaker 1: their their listening of podcasts since the pandemic happened. And 423 00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:20,359 Speaker 1: Latinos also tend to listen to more audio every day 424 00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:25,160 Speaker 1: than like your average audio listeners, and Latinos for example, 425 00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:28,600 Speaker 1: tend to spend like four hours and thirty plus minutes 426 00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:31,639 Speaker 1: daily listening to some type of audio, which is like 427 00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:36,800 Speaker 1: a significant amount of time more than most other audio listeners, 428 00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:41,040 Speaker 1: whether that's music, audio, books, podcasts, what have you. So 429 00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:43,600 Speaker 1: it's it's interesting and I think that that makes sense. 430 00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:48,160 Speaker 1: I think that Latinos like like radio, like music, and 431 00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:52,200 Speaker 1: it seems also enjoyed listening to podcasts. And we know 432 00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:57,120 Speaker 1: that UM our primary listeners are latin X people. Of course, 433 00:28:57,200 --> 00:28:59,880 Speaker 1: we have listeners of all backgrounds from all over the place, 434 00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:04,360 Speaker 1: but really the core of our listenership our latin X listeners, 435 00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:08,440 Speaker 1: and so that tracks. It definitely tracks. Also thinking of 436 00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:10,720 Speaker 1: our pod friends, you know, like a fit and cheese 437 00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:15,760 Speaker 1: manout doing it bad ladies. Um, you know, it makes sense, right, 438 00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:20,600 Speaker 1: And since the pandemic of all us Latino or latin 439 00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:24,360 Speaker 1: X podcast listeners, fifty two percent are listening to podcasts 440 00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:27,520 Speaker 1: more since the pandemic. That's that's a lot. That's a 441 00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:32,760 Speaker 1: high number. And it's also interesting because we felt that 442 00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:38,080 Speaker 1: the listens were our listens were affective because people are 443 00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:41,240 Speaker 1: not commuting as much, right and so it's interesting that 444 00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:45,400 Speaker 1: people are finding different ways to listen to their podcasts. 445 00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:47,920 Speaker 1: Maybe they're not listening while they commute, but maybe they're 446 00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:50,560 Speaker 1: listening while they're cooking. Now, maybe while they're gardening, while 447 00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:54,000 Speaker 1: they're walking their dogs, or while they're skating. So latin 448 00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:58,280 Speaker 1: X folks are avid media consumers. We know that film 449 00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:02,240 Speaker 1: and television podcast testing as well, which is also no 450 00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:05,520 Speaker 1: surprise why the industry is also paying attention to the 451 00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:10,479 Speaker 1: latin X population or community. Yeah, and according to the 452 00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:13,000 Speaker 1: Infinite Dial study which came out not too long ago, 453 00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:16,080 Speaker 1: and we cite the Infinite Dial Study and Edison in 454 00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:19,240 Speaker 1: our I Fund Women crowdfront campaign. So you can read 455 00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:22,720 Speaker 1: these statistics for yourselves if you check out our I 456 00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:25,720 Speaker 1: Fund Women campaign for look at that our productions, we 457 00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:29,440 Speaker 1: do list this info there. But according to the Infinite 458 00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:33,640 Speaker 1: Dial Study, latin X listeners are the second largest group 459 00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:39,080 Speaker 1: of monthly podcast listeners in the United States. So Latinos 460 00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:41,720 Speaker 1: are tuning in in English and Spanish and all kinds 461 00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:44,640 Speaker 1: of languages. And like the as I said, there is 462 00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:49,640 Speaker 1: an increasing interest on behalf of networks and studios to 463 00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:56,640 Speaker 1: onboard new uh latin X hosts and to launch new shows. 464 00:30:57,240 --> 00:31:01,440 Speaker 1: And we know firsthand because these now works are courting 465 00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:04,080 Speaker 1: us and are in r d M s and are 466 00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:09,000 Speaker 1: in our inbox. And so the industry is like knocking 467 00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:12,520 Speaker 1: at our door at this point right like in major ways, 468 00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:17,640 Speaker 1: and we have found ourselves having to navigate this this 469 00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:21,400 Speaker 1: industry that um you know, we try and keep up with, 470 00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:25,600 Speaker 1: and we follow a number of very talented podcasters, host producers, 471 00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:32,480 Speaker 1: and we've read the testimony, the testimonials and the stories 472 00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:38,720 Speaker 1: from these creatives about how discriminatory and exploitative the industry 473 00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:41,760 Speaker 1: can be. I mean, if you keep up with podcast news, 474 00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:44,240 Speaker 1: you may have heard a few years ago about Another 475 00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:48,960 Speaker 1: Round and the issues they had with buzz Feed. There 476 00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:51,600 Speaker 1: with BuzzFeed and the issues they had with their i P, 477 00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:57,760 Speaker 1: their intellectual property UM. Basically BuzzFeed you know, built to 478 00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:02,160 Speaker 1: an audience in a brand around this podcast, in large 479 00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:06,400 Speaker 1: part because of the two hosts, right, who are black women, 480 00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:11,840 Speaker 1: And when they wanted to leave buzz Feed Another Round, 481 00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:14,560 Speaker 1: the podcast stayed with BuzzFeed and all the i P. 482 00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:16,880 Speaker 1: And I think that it was like a huge battle 483 00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:20,240 Speaker 1: for them, um. And they're not the only ones, right 484 00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:23,840 Speaker 1: that you put your name, your face, your voice, your 485 00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:28,320 Speaker 1: personality into a show for a major platform, an audience 486 00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:31,960 Speaker 1: is built around you as a host, right, But the 487 00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:34,480 Speaker 1: show doesn't belong to the host. It doesn't belong to 488 00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:38,600 Speaker 1: the creative. And that's a big problem because this is 489 00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:41,880 Speaker 1: a growing industry, and this we're talking about a lot 490 00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:46,560 Speaker 1: of money potentially in ad dollars and in potential future 491 00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:50,040 Speaker 1: adaptations for film and television, because now there's a podcast 492 00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:53,080 Speaker 1: to film and television pipeline. So when the host, who 493 00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:55,520 Speaker 1: are really the I would say the driving sort of 494 00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:58,760 Speaker 1: heart and soul of many of your favorite podcast right. 495 00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:02,200 Speaker 1: You associate the host with a podcast first, Um, are 496 00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:05,320 Speaker 1: not able to like walk away, especially if the show 497 00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:07,760 Speaker 1: was their idea. They named the show, right, But you 498 00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:09,720 Speaker 1: do it for network. So even if you name the 499 00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:11,959 Speaker 1: show and you right, you write it and you come 500 00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:14,640 Speaker 1: up with all the ideas, if the contracts and such 501 00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:17,160 Speaker 1: are set up that everything belongs to the network, then 502 00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:19,480 Speaker 1: everything belongs to the network, even if it's all your 503 00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:23,040 Speaker 1: brain child, right, UM. And I think that that's a 504 00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:25,680 Speaker 1: big issue we've been seeing is like, yeah, I know 505 00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:29,880 Speaker 1: the networks in writing they want ownership of i P, 506 00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:33,520 Speaker 1: which makes things difficult for us because we're like, no, 507 00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:37,920 Speaker 1: we have to own our intellectual property, right we have. 508 00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:40,840 Speaker 1: We've built this from the ground up, and so we're 509 00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:45,360 Speaker 1: for us, that's a hard no, a really hard pass. 510 00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:49,520 Speaker 1: We will not ever sacrifice our i P. There's like 511 00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:55,800 Speaker 1: no price tag for us, you know, UM, would sounds extreme, 512 00:33:55,880 --> 00:34:00,040 Speaker 1: but it's true because if a giant network wants to 513 00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:04,120 Speaker 1: offer you one million dollars excuse me, one million dollars 514 00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:07,680 Speaker 1: for your podcast to own the i P, that means 515 00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:10,480 Speaker 1: they see the potential to make ten million dollars. You 516 00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:14,360 Speaker 1: know what I mean. And so, yeah, your intellectual property 517 00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:18,480 Speaker 1: is everything and another round is just one example. There's 518 00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:24,920 Speaker 1: also the nod that was a podcast hosted at Gimlet, 519 00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:28,800 Speaker 1: which is not owned by Spotify, and there are two 520 00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:33,280 Speaker 1: podcast employees working at your to Gimlet employees work working 521 00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:37,439 Speaker 1: as producers, created their own show. Now they like they 522 00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:40,560 Speaker 1: have no reins over their own show that they created. 523 00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:44,680 Speaker 1: It was their idea. But the argument is they were employees, 524 00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:48,960 Speaker 1: they were salaried employees, um. And so it gets really 525 00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:52,680 Speaker 1: tricky and really messy um for us as like indie 526 00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:56,760 Speaker 1: podcasters were like, no, that's that's their show. Like Gimlet 527 00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:59,520 Speaker 1: shouldn't own it, Spotify shouldn't own it. Brittany Lewis and 528 00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:04,160 Speaker 1: Eric at should own the nod on right, Um. But 529 00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:07,680 Speaker 1: you know, these networks want to make their money and 530 00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:10,319 Speaker 1: that's what it comes down to. And so also like 531 00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:15,160 Speaker 1: to demystify what goes on in the podcasting industry. You know, 532 00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:17,520 Speaker 1: we're like kind of one FT in, one FT out. 533 00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:21,600 Speaker 1: We're very much in the podcasting industry, but we're still indeed. Um. 534 00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:25,799 Speaker 1: So these kinds of things were able to either completely 535 00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:29,240 Speaker 1: avoid or step away from. But then that also means 536 00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:32,680 Speaker 1: like there's less financial security or backing, and so it's 537 00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:37,560 Speaker 1: definitely uh, huge pros and cons. But I think protecting 538 00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:40,480 Speaker 1: your I P is always the priority, or intellectual property 539 00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:42,879 Speaker 1: is the priority. You want to protect it, you want 540 00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:45,719 Speaker 1: to own it. And like I said, like as more 541 00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:50,000 Speaker 1: folks create podcast, right, there's like all these dreams of 542 00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:53,640 Speaker 1: like signing with this big network and and making all 543 00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:57,479 Speaker 1: this money, which is one possible and if that's your goal, 544 00:35:57,600 --> 00:36:02,719 Speaker 1: that's amazing, but also there's lots of stuff happening on 545 00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:06,160 Speaker 1: the back end. Yeah, yeah, yeah, And what we've learned 546 00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:11,120 Speaker 1: right is, um, saying no it is a part of 547 00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:15,200 Speaker 1: the process. And we already have had the experience of 548 00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:18,239 Speaker 1: having to say no to a number of contracts and 549 00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:24,759 Speaker 1: opportunities and you know, potential network homes for look at 550 00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:28,720 Speaker 1: that our radio because um, the offers you're being made, right, 551 00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:32,800 Speaker 1: But when it comes down to it and we see 552 00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:35,160 Speaker 1: the terms and what we would have to give up 553 00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:39,279 Speaker 1: and sacrifice, um, it's not worth it, and it ends 554 00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:42,359 Speaker 1: up being better for us, healthier for us, and for 555 00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:46,640 Speaker 1: the project to remain Indie. So you know, one of 556 00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:49,120 Speaker 1: the reasons we've remained Indie for so long is because 557 00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:52,160 Speaker 1: the right deal hasn't come along yet, so and we're 558 00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:54,600 Speaker 1: we're waiting. We're waiting, which is one of the reasons 559 00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:58,480 Speaker 1: why we also said, you know what, we need to 560 00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:02,279 Speaker 1: just continue producing our own. It's working for us. Let's 561 00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:05,839 Speaker 1: launch this production company, let's raise some money, let's launch 562 00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:09,520 Speaker 1: launch a crowdfund campaign. It's because now we've had enough 563 00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:15,319 Speaker 1: experience with the podcasting industry, uh, that we realize you 564 00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:19,799 Speaker 1: have to build your own to some degree. Yeah, not 565 00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:22,960 Speaker 1: everybody does, right, There are plenty of folks who, like, 566 00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:27,480 Speaker 1: you know, they made their name doing whatever it is 567 00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:30,000 Speaker 1: that they do. They pitched a network with an idea 568 00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:32,279 Speaker 1: for a show, and now they have their show. You know, 569 00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:35,719 Speaker 1: for some people it's been like that straightforward, but for us, 570 00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:39,239 Speaker 1: it just hasn't been. You know, it just hasn't been 571 00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:43,520 Speaker 1: for whatever, for a number of multitude of reasons. Well, 572 00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:45,920 Speaker 1: I think also like it depends what your goal is. 573 00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:47,879 Speaker 1: Like if you just want to go in, you want 574 00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:50,520 Speaker 1: to just host the show. You don't care about being 575 00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:52,799 Speaker 1: a producer, like you don't care about the writing that 576 00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:55,480 Speaker 1: you just want to be your host. That's your the host, 577 00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:58,839 Speaker 1: that's your talent, that's like your glory. You love that 578 00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:01,239 Speaker 1: you love to host, you just want to walk in 579 00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:04,120 Speaker 1: and walk out, like, then maybe that works for you, 580 00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:05,960 Speaker 1: you know you, for you, like, the i P isn't 581 00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:10,200 Speaker 1: as important. But if you're interested in the writing, the producing, 582 00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:13,600 Speaker 1: You're you're bringing in the guests, right, you're hosting, you're 583 00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:17,160 Speaker 1: creating segments, you're you're part of the creative development as well, 584 00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:19,080 Speaker 1: then the i P is probably going to be really 585 00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:23,839 Speaker 1: important to you. My imagination or I don't think it's 586 00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:26,879 Speaker 1: far off to assume that the reason that a lot 587 00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:30,040 Speaker 1: of these celebrity pods are popping up more and more 588 00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:33,200 Speaker 1: with networks is because celebrities are going to make their 589 00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:36,080 Speaker 1: money in so many different ways that they don't need 590 00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:40,000 Speaker 1: to own the i P of this podcast that they're 591 00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:43,760 Speaker 1: doing with Spotify or Amazon or whomever. Right, And so 592 00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:47,479 Speaker 1: it also sets a precedent for the smaller creators, right that, 593 00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:51,239 Speaker 1: because maybe we're smaller and we have a smaller reach 594 00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:54,560 Speaker 1: than let's say, a very famous person that I won't name. 595 00:38:54,920 --> 00:39:01,719 Speaker 1: You know, um, yes, um, you know. So, so then 596 00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:04,200 Speaker 1: our maybe the assumption is that i P is not 597 00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:06,920 Speaker 1: as important, right, But no, the i P is extremely important. 598 00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:09,400 Speaker 1: But it also depends on what your goals are UM 599 00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:13,520 Speaker 1: and what you want to walk away with? So UM, 600 00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:19,919 Speaker 1: if you're interested in learning more about the various experiences 601 00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:28,800 Speaker 1: of podcast hosts, podcast producers who have experienced exploitation, discrimination, racism, 602 00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:33,520 Speaker 1: sexism in their work in the podcasting industry at various 603 00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:38,800 Speaker 1: podcasting studios, what have you? I recommend looking into Another 604 00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:42,040 Speaker 1: Round right and their story, which you can find online. 605 00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:44,200 Speaker 1: It's been written about, it's been covered, it's been tweeted about. 606 00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:48,560 Speaker 1: The whole thing. UM. Sire Vevil has also tweeted and 607 00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:52,400 Speaker 1: written about and shared on Twitter and online UM about 608 00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:56,800 Speaker 1: their experiences in the podcasting industry, as well as sam standers. 609 00:39:57,200 --> 00:39:59,040 Speaker 1: So those are just a few. There are more. There 610 00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:01,839 Speaker 1: are others of UM, but that's a handful and if 611 00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:06,520 Speaker 1: you start there, UM you'll find more. So it's thing. 612 00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:09,440 Speaker 1: I also want to mention this article published by The 613 00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:13,400 Speaker 1: Verge and it's about the NOD and they also mentioned 614 00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:16,120 Speaker 1: a couple of the other podcasts that have been in 615 00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:18,960 Speaker 1: this these industry podcasts that have been in this battle 616 00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:23,520 Speaker 1: the creators and the podcast network and they reference Another 617 00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:27,720 Speaker 1: Round UM and also Misha Yusef who had a show 618 00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:33,080 Speaker 1: with KPCC called tell Me Who I Am? And so 619 00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:35,919 Speaker 1: there's there's definitely like Molas said, once you find one, 620 00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:38,240 Speaker 1: you will definitely find the other. So if that's something 621 00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:40,040 Speaker 1: that interests you and you just want to know more 622 00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:44,799 Speaker 1: about equity in the podcasting industry and why diversity and 623 00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:48,600 Speaker 1: inclusion is not the main goal or shouldn't be the 624 00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:51,400 Speaker 1: final goal is should be equity. Like this is a 625 00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:55,160 Speaker 1: good place to start and all that to say, you know, 626 00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:58,879 Speaker 1: I don't think that podcasting is any different than any 627 00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:02,719 Speaker 1: other industry when it comes to the bullshit and exploitation 628 00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:07,080 Speaker 1: and ownership unfortunately. So I also want to reiterate that, 629 00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:10,920 Speaker 1: like it is so young that I think there's um 630 00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:15,120 Speaker 1: an opportunity here to like course correct and to board 631 00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:18,880 Speaker 1: your own paths within it, to kind of, you know, 632 00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:24,319 Speaker 1: lesson some of the the negativity that we might experience 633 00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:30,239 Speaker 1: right in our podcasting lives. Um yeah, I mean I 634 00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:32,680 Speaker 1: think about it to mala is, like right now we 635 00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:37,040 Speaker 1: have like part time employees, we like hire people on 636 00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:41,000 Speaker 1: a project basis. I like the goal is that we're 637 00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:44,040 Speaker 1: we all have a full time team and staff at 638 00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:46,680 Speaker 1: some point, right And so I am now thinking about 639 00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:48,920 Speaker 1: like what kind of leader do I want to be? 640 00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:54,080 Speaker 1: If you and I are like leaders, owners, CEOs of 641 00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:59,760 Speaker 1: local productions, like what kind of equitable also like happy 642 00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:02,839 Speaker 1: work environment who I want to create because I did 643 00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:07,960 Speaker 1: in some awful workplace situations. I know you have as well, Right, 644 00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:11,319 Speaker 1: so the last thing I would ever want to do 645 00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:15,279 Speaker 1: is replicate any of that, right. And you see, like 646 00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:17,799 Speaker 1: and this is a whole other podcast episode, but like 647 00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:22,520 Speaker 1: you see some of these like women lad feminists led 648 00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:28,000 Speaker 1: startups right that end up like crumbling and crashing, you know, 649 00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:33,040 Speaker 1: um years after they've started, because their employees come out 650 00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:36,040 Speaker 1: and share like all of the abuse and exploitation they 651 00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:40,160 Speaker 1: suffered at this quote feminist organization or this feminist stuff. 652 00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:43,640 Speaker 1: And so there's just a lot to think about. And 653 00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:47,440 Speaker 1: I think a lot of responsibility, a lot of responsibility. 654 00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:51,440 Speaker 1: It's very nerve wracking and scary, and you know, because 655 00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:55,040 Speaker 1: of course we're reminded of the tried and truth saying 656 00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:59,000 Speaker 1: there's no such thing as good bosses. So I don't know, 657 00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:02,719 Speaker 1: it's like, how do you avoid being a boss? Well, 658 00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:12,200 Speaker 1: well technically, And I'm like, look, dude, like like work remote, 659 00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:15,879 Speaker 1: like work remote, four day work. We come in when 660 00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:19,279 Speaker 1: you need to just just meet the deadline, get the 661 00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:22,520 Speaker 1: thing done. Like for example, like, well, Mile and I 662 00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:24,920 Speaker 1: are working remote, but it's like we don't take meetings 663 00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:29,400 Speaker 1: before ten am. No, like if we were to be 664 00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:32,440 Speaker 1: like in a in a office setting like you and I, 665 00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:36,560 Speaker 1: plus like our team, like come in at ten, come 666 00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:40,000 Speaker 1: in at noon, take Friday off, you know, because things 667 00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:44,279 Speaker 1: still get done. We're very productive. Yeah, and so it 668 00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:47,000 Speaker 1: doesn't need to be fucking nine five Monday to Friday. 669 00:43:47,320 --> 00:43:50,240 Speaker 1: Take a long lunch. I do not give a ship. Literally, 670 00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:53,560 Speaker 1: take a long lunch, get here late, have a drink. 671 00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:57,480 Speaker 1: It's fine because we're gonna be late, we're gonna take 672 00:43:57,560 --> 00:44:05,000 Speaker 1: lug lunches, and we're gonna have a so like you know, yeah, 673 00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:08,440 Speaker 1: so come work for us, Come work for us at 674 00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:12,680 Speaker 1: look at our productions. I mean no, truly think about it. 675 00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:15,279 Speaker 1: Think about it, Like if you're listening to podcasts, you 676 00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:20,880 Speaker 1: enjoy podcasts, maybe there's something in your future work wise 677 00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:25,239 Speaker 1: or creatively that can happen in the podcasting space. Just 678 00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:30,640 Speaker 1: like any other industry. UM podcasting networks need uh web 679 00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:34,359 Speaker 1: designers and graphic designers and attorneys. We work with all 680 00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:36,759 Speaker 1: of those people. We work with audio editors who work 681 00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:40,400 Speaker 1: with attorneys. We work with artists, We work with DJs, 682 00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:43,520 Speaker 1: We work with musicians. We we you know, we interview 683 00:44:43,560 --> 00:44:47,719 Speaker 1: all kinds of people. Um, we have a project manager now, 684 00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:52,120 Speaker 1: I mean podcasters need grant writers. Like, there's all kinds 685 00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:56,640 Speaker 1: of different ways to work in podcasting aside from hosting 686 00:44:56,800 --> 00:45:01,080 Speaker 1: a podcast. Yeah, so even and like as we grow 687 00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:05,279 Speaker 1: out our newsletter, it's like, Okay, I've been doing our 688 00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:08,879 Speaker 1: newsletter pretty inconsistently. If you're a subscriber, you probably know that, right, 689 00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:10,920 Speaker 1: And like we're doing our best to build it up, 690 00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:13,880 Speaker 1: because here's the thing. You can't just like send out it. 691 00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:17,040 Speaker 1: I mean you can, but like writing copy for a 692 00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:20,720 Speaker 1: newsletter is its own skill set, and so PETE teams 693 00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:25,000 Speaker 1: like have copywriters like just for their newsletter, you know. So, 694 00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:28,040 Speaker 1: like there's really so many different avenues that if you 695 00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:31,120 Speaker 1: are interested in the podcasting industry, even after listening to 696 00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:35,160 Speaker 1: this episode, right right right, if you're still interested, still interesting, 697 00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:38,400 Speaker 1: there are so many different avenues than other than like 698 00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:43,200 Speaker 1: hosting and producing. Um, and it just depends, like again, 699 00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:47,040 Speaker 1: what your goals are. So yeah, I don't know, um, 700 00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:50,640 Speaker 1: if you think about it. Our current team is composed 701 00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:55,680 Speaker 1: of mostly women who were listeners or followers or you know, 702 00:45:56,280 --> 00:45:58,800 Speaker 1: with the exception of Micah, who is my brother's girlfriend. 703 00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:03,920 Speaker 1: But other than Mica, every you know, Marianna, Jessica, UM 704 00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:10,200 Speaker 1: Jordan's listeners followers who then applied when we had opportunities 705 00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:13,040 Speaker 1: open up or you know, we were made aware of 706 00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:15,799 Speaker 1: their work and we reached out to them to work 707 00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:18,680 Speaker 1: with us. So there's always an opportunity. We're growing, so 708 00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:22,560 Speaker 1: keep in touch, you know. UM, folks email us sometimes 709 00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:24,719 Speaker 1: with resumes or let us know that they're around, and 710 00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:27,480 Speaker 1: then things come up and we do end up saying like, oh, 711 00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:30,520 Speaker 1: this person DM does this person emailed us, Let's reach 712 00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:33,440 Speaker 1: out to them, let's consider them. That has definitely happened. 713 00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:39,000 Speaker 1: So ala at look at our radio dot com. Yeah, so, 714 00:46:39,120 --> 00:46:43,239 Speaker 1: I mean, we hope you enjoyed this episode. And you know, 715 00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:45,640 Speaker 1: the hope is always to like demystify some of the 716 00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:48,560 Speaker 1: stuff because nobody told us any of this, right, Like 717 00:46:48,719 --> 00:46:52,480 Speaker 1: nobody talked to us about making money in the podcasting space, 718 00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:56,439 Speaker 1: or if you're pitching, how much money you should ask for? 719 00:46:56,600 --> 00:47:01,080 Speaker 1: Like these are conversations that are kept secret on purpose. 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