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Speaker 2: Right now, let's talk a little bit about the incoming administration.

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Speaker 1: Here's some updates on this one.

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Speaker 2: First of all, our friend Pete Hegseth has in terms

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Speaker 2: I'm sure he would understand very much and appreciate thought

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Speaker 2: through the ambush, he has gotten off the X and

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Speaker 2: it looks like he is on his way to a

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Speaker 2: confirmation as the next United States Secretary of Defense.

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Speaker 1: Remarkable.

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Speaker 2: I still remember first time Pete and I were on

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Speaker 2: Real News at the Blaze, a show that doesn't exist

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Speaker 2: anymore but was great at the time. I want to

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Speaker 2: say twenty twelve, so that was now coming on thirteen

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Speaker 2: years ago, and here he is now up for and

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Speaker 2: I think going to become the next Secretary of Defense.

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Speaker 2: But it's very interesting to see, particularly Clay the warfighter

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Speaker 2: support for Pete in this role. We have gotten very

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Speaker 2: used to before. I talk about the merits of a

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Speaker 2: which you know, it used to be the War Department,

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Speaker 2: as we all remember, and then they change it to

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Speaker 2: the Defense Department. But the point is to be able

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Speaker 2: to make war and win wars if war is necessary, right,

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Speaker 2: that is actually what the role that is the fundamental role. Yes,

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Speaker 2: it is to defend us and our rights and everything else,

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Speaker 2: but it is also to be able to engage with

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Speaker 2: engineering experiment where we get to address historical you know,

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Speaker 2: injustices to the trans community or whatever. And there's been

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Speaker 2: a lot of that in the military in recent years.

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Speaker 2: There's been a ton of it, I can say from

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Speaker 2: trans Appreciation Day every couple of months or something. It's

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Speaker 2: there's a lot of stuff going on with that DEI.

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Speaker 2: But let's just first focus in on this clay. There's

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Speaker 2: there's a history now going back, let's say, and this

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Speaker 2: really coincides with you know, most of our time post

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Speaker 2: responsible at the very top. Actually so he can't do everything,

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Speaker 2: but the responsibility for how wars are going, how military

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Speaker 2: commander in chief, but right below that the Secretary of Defense.

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Speaker 2: We had a history of really bad for a country

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Speaker 2: that has no real military peer. We've had a history

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Speaker 2: of some terrible strategic decision making. Right, our guys are

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Speaker 2: tactical war fighters in the world, no question about it.

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Speaker 2: But yet we haven't gotten the outcomes we want when

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Speaker 2: the strategies that have been deployed stretching back now for

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Speaker 2: let's say twenty four years, here's Senator Rick Scott who

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Speaker 2: is just pointing out that having somebody who has actually

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Speaker 2: In fact, why is that so strange to a lot

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Speaker 2: of people that have opposed Pete play This is cut eleven.

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Speaker 3: You look at Pete hedgstep Here's a guy that's a

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Speaker 3: combat veteran. He knows the risk of sending troops in

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Speaker 3: he knows people that have been injured. That's the type

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Speaker 2: Clay, There's a lot of people talk about the military

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Speaker 2: industrial complex but I can say from the people I know,

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Speaker 2: there's a resentment to it in Pete addresses that Pete

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Speaker 4: I would suggest to you, Buck that Pete, hag Seth,

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Speaker 4: there that get into bureaucracies and you're really good at

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Speaker 4: you can rise to different levels. Income is connected to it.

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Speaker 4: I would many of these jobs I would have no

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Speaker 4: I don't think government, this is my personal opinion, should

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Speaker 1: That's my personal life.

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Speaker 2: That would be public service instead of self service, which

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Speaker 2: There's not some other industry in DC. Okay, there's not

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Speaker 2: it doesn't matter who the people elect. Now, run that

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Speaker 1: Run that same idea. Now through the Department of Justice.

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Speaker 2: That's what I think we can all get ready for

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Speaker 2: as well. These are not honorable people. They do not

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Speaker 2: They do not care. They will try to humiliate him

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Speaker 2: he's going to be confirmed, but it's going to get ugly.

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Speaker 1: Plate twelve.

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Speaker 5: I know of no one who said they will vote

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Speaker 5: everybody is eager to see these nominees confirmed, but we

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Speaker 5: we will actually be doing that. But it's important for

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Speaker 5: I told Pete this is going to be a very

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Speaker 5: unpleasant process for him and his family, having been involved

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Speaker 2: Now, you know, kind of a mixed bag there from Cornyn. Right, Yeah,

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Speaker 4: I think so. And that's the kind of people I

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Speaker 2: all of you know this. Pete Hegseth. They attack, They say, well,

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Speaker 2: he only went to Princeton and then he went to Harvard,

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Speaker 2: She is a fake Indian, built their whole career on it,

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Speaker 4: Did you see where Scott Presler, who basically focused entirely

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Speaker 1: Thank you all for listening in.

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Speaker 2: Sean does a great show, and Sean appreciate you being

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Speaker 1: You me, Clay.

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Speaker 2: We all have one thing in common other than being

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Speaker 2: Pete hag Seth and are are hoping that he is

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Speaker 2: able to take the reins of Secretary of Defense. You know,

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Speaker 2: But from the warfighter perspective, I'm seeing so many special

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Speaker 6: You know? Pete's a warfighter? I mean, plain and simple,

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Speaker 6: period that these supposed fake allegations, all this stuff happened

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Speaker 6: So all of these things are great things. But beyond

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Speaker 4: I want to dive in with you because I saw

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Speaker 4: for him that he still has it, because you know

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Speaker 4: But what's going on here? Like Sean he would theoretically

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Speaker 6: And this is precisely why you need somebody like Pete,

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Speaker 6: get all the get rid of all the own stuff,

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Speaker 6: get out, get rid of all the stuff that is

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Speaker 6: a distraction to the warfighter, and focus on the mission.

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Speaker 6: And in the case of West Point, the mission is

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Speaker 6: raising up officers who embody duty, honor, country, service, selfless service, sacrifice,

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Speaker 6: not focused on tanking political nominations.

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Speaker 2: Speaking of Sean Parnell. Battleground is his podcast on the

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Speaker 2: Clay and Buck Network. Go subscribe to the network and

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Speaker 2: look for Battleground. Give it a listen. You will love it.

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Speaker 1: Sean.

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Speaker 2: Let's talk politics for a second here. I mean we

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Speaker 2: kind of were in a sense, right they're trying to

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Speaker 2: block political reasons, but you know, more in the on

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Speaker 2: the electoral politics side of things, we were just discussing Pennsylvania.

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Speaker 2: Amazing work, Scott Presler, bit did your home state delivered?

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Speaker 2: We got a great new senator coming in with Dave McCormick. Fetterman,

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Speaker 2: you're familiar. You ran for Congress, right, you know that

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Speaker 2: the deal the political landscape in Pennsylvania very well. Fetterman

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Speaker 2: is saying a lot of sensible stuff, and people get

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Speaker 2: sometimes a little mad at those like me who will

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Speaker 2: just say, look what he said is good. I don't know,

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Speaker 2: is this is he not? Do you think he's actually

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Speaker 2: changing the way he views things? Or is this just

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Speaker 2: a gamut? Is this just something that he's doing because

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Speaker 2: he sees where the political winds are blown? Like, how

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Speaker 2: would you assess this? Because he's definitely not saying the

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Speaker 6: He definitely I'll just say this, he definitely sees the

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Speaker 6: way that the political wins are are blowing and knows

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Speaker 6: that he has election and election coming up in twenty

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Speaker 6: twenty eight. And just do the simple math. From twenty

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Speaker 6: twenty six, hundred and fifty thousand more registered Democrats than Republicans.

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Speaker 6: In twenty twenty four, that number is three hundred thousand

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Speaker 6: in change, so still a lot more Democrats than Republicans.

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Speaker 6: But look, Republicans just won the state up and down

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Speaker 6: the ballot, a clean sweep of Republicans in Pennsylvania in

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Speaker 6: twenty four So in another four years, I mean, this

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Speaker 6: state could be even Republican Democrats and that makes the

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Speaker 6: state very, very tough for him. So John Fetterman is

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Speaker 6: going to have to do some things to reach across

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Speaker 6: the aisle, give conservatives some you know, quote unquote wins

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Speaker 6: while simultaneously voting the way that the Democrat Party wants

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Speaker 6: him to vote. And to me, that's the key differentiator.

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Speaker 6: Don't listen to the things that John Fetterman says, Like

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Speaker 6: he says some cool, catchy stuff that conservatives like to

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Speaker 6: latch onto, but watch how he votes. A good example

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Speaker 6: of this is Israel. He waives the Israeli flag all

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Speaker 6: the time, but he votes against aid for Israel in

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Speaker 6: the Senate over and over and over again. So you

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Speaker 6: can't in many cases listen to how the Democrats talk.

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Speaker 6: You have to watch how he votes. So fuck and Clay.

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Speaker 6: If he votes starts voting with the Republicans, then I'll

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Speaker 6: take him a heck of a lot more serious than

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Speaker 6: the way he is now. But the last thing I'll

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Speaker 6: say about John Fetterman is this, and I'll give him

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Speaker 6: a compliment. John fet is one of the few elected officials,

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Speaker 6: especially now on the Democrats side of the aisle, who

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Speaker 6: seemed totally out of touch with reality on most things.

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Speaker 6: But John Fetterman really truly does understand Pennsylvania, and so

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Speaker 6: I will give him credit for that, and for that

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Speaker 6: for that reason alone, it makes him a very formidable politician.

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Speaker 6: And so the fact that he's this forward thinking, sees

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Speaker 6: the numbers, sees that the state is trending right. The

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Speaker 6: fact that he's already thinking about this in twenty four

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Speaker 6: for a cycle in twenty eight just gives you a

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Speaker 6: sense that he does have some political strategy up up here.

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Speaker 6: He does understand the state, He understands the demographics and

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Speaker 6: so makes him formidable and Republicans should not take him

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Speaker 6: for granted.

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Speaker 4: Sean, I know we're four years out from a major election,

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Speaker 4: but how durable do you think the new calculus the

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Speaker 4: new math is four Pennsylvania. You mentioned that you think

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Speaker 4: the state is tilting red. Trump one hundred and twenty

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Speaker 4: thousand vote win in the state of Pennsylvania. It was close,

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Speaker 4: but it was a major statement win. How much of

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Speaker 4: that is Trump and how much of that is the

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Speaker 4: overall trajectory of Pennsylvania moving in a Republican direction.

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Speaker 6: Well, so a lot of this is Trump, and I

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Speaker 6: think part of our job moving forward in the Commonwealth

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Speaker 6: of Pennsylvania is try to preserve this crazy coalition cross

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Speaker 6: section of people that only show up for Trump. Our

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Speaker 6: job moving forward is to figure out how to get

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Speaker 6: those people to the ballot box each and every cycle,

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Speaker 6: not just in midterms, but in off cycles as well.

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Speaker 6: Consider this all the work that we did with early

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Speaker 6: votes in mail in ballots this cycle. Dave McCormick, he

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Speaker 6: won twenty seven counties in vote cast by mail. Of

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Speaker 6: the sixty seven counties in Pennsylvania, McCormick won twenty seven.

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Speaker 6: Doctor Oz in twenty twenty two won two. But in

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Speaker 6: those twenty seven counties that Dave McCormick won, his margin

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Speaker 6: of victory was twenty one thousand mail in votes. That

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Speaker 6: was greater than a statewide margin of victory. So what

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Speaker 6: we did in Pennsylvania, in addition to President Trump just

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Speaker 6: being very strong at the top of the ticket, what

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Speaker 6: we did for Dave McCormick and Republicans down ballock was

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Speaker 6: literally the difference. And so you don't see the same

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Speaker 6: dynamic playing out in Wisconsin, Nevada, Arizona, and other places.

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Speaker 6: But what we did in Pennsylvania made the difference. And

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Speaker 6: so we're going to have to focus on all of

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Speaker 6: the you know, hey, vote by mail early vote operation,

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Speaker 6: continue banging the drum on voter registration, getting low prop

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Speaker 6: voters to the polls, and continuing to cobble together this

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Speaker 6: very eclectic coalition that Trump brings to the table, because

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Speaker 6: that is the base of our party now and we've

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Speaker 6: got to serve them.

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Speaker 1: Well, what are you hitting on Battleground Podcast this week?

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Speaker 6: Sean to talk about Pete's confirmation process, actually all of

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Speaker 6: President Trump's cabinet nominees, in the fact that it's very

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Speaker 6: rare for cabinet nominees to be voted down by Democrats

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Speaker 6: or Republicans, but we've let the media gaslight us into

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Speaker 6: believing that that's possible this cycle. So we're going to

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Speaker 6: go to the politics on all of that. So we're

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Speaker 6: Monday through Friday on the Clay and Buck podcast network.

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Speaker 6: And by the way, guys, very grateful to be there.

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Speaker 6: So thank you both very much for the platform.

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Speaker 2: Well, thanks for making us look good by building a

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Speaker 1: We appreciate that. Yeah, well, it's an honor to be

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Speaker 1: with you, guys. Thank you, Sean.

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Speaker 4: your podcasts. Welcome back in Clay Travis, buck Sex and Show.

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Speaker 4: Appreciate all of you hanging out with us. We're rolling

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Speaker 4: through the Wednesday edition of the program. By the way,

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Speaker 4: Amir o'hanna, speaker of the Israeli Kanesset. He is the

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Speaker 4: talk to us. There are a lot of fans of

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Speaker 4: the radio program over in Israel. He is going to

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Speaker 4: be with us. I taped this earlier. I was with

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Speaker 4: him in the third hour about what's going on in Syria,

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Speaker 4: what about Iran, what about the election of President Trump,

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Speaker 4: and what does he think about the relationship that Trump

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Speaker 4: and Israel are going to have. What was the significance

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Speaker 4: of moving the embassy to Jerusalem. Really interesting conversation with him.

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Speaker 4: I think you guys are going to enjoy that. That's

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Speaker 4: in Jerusalem. Looking forward to that. But yesterday, speaking a

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Speaker 4: controversial I made a clearly true to the Buck Sexton

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Speaker 4: old man and his anti Harry Potter takes are out

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Speaker 4: of step with American life. And the reaction was massive,

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Speaker 4: including many of you who weigh in with your own

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Speaker 4: messages for me, including one of our listeners, Ken in Lincoln, Nebraska,

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Speaker 4: home of the corn Huskers. He was really fired up

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Speaker 4: about this. Listen to what he had to say.

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Speaker 1: Clay, I'm a black guy who listens to your show. No,

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Speaker 1: I'm not African American. I'm Black. I cannot believe.

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Speaker 3: That you would put Harry Potter and Star Wars in

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Speaker 3: the same sentence. You're lost, Clay lost.

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Speaker 1: That man is correct? I correct?

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Speaker 4: Wow, I mean I used to think that people of Lincoln,

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Speaker 4: Nebraska were a fine group of upstanding individuals just hoping

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Speaker 4: that their corn huskers could return to nineteen nineties glory.

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Speaker 4: And then my man and let's see, let me get

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Speaker 4: his name right, my man Ken just comes after me.

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Speaker 1: Ken. You're wrong.

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Speaker 4: You and Buck are are just on the wrong side

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Speaker 4: of history here, frankly, and just because you hate fun,

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Speaker 4: enjoy and effervescent children overcoming evil doesn't mean that I

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Speaker 4: have to stoop to your level. You're just wrong. Why

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Speaker 4: you gotta be so mean as the esteem? Taylor Swift

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Speaker 4: once said.

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Speaker 2: I mean Star Wars is an era defining movie spectacle

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Speaker 2: and change cinema.

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Speaker 1: Harry Potter is you know, It's like, I don't know,

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean.

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna blow your mind. Harry Potter is more influential

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Speaker 4: than Star Wars.

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Speaker 1: Dude.

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Speaker 2: The I'm knock the amount of people dressed as Jedi

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Speaker 2: with lightsabers that are gonna be waiting outside your next

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Speaker 2: book signing just went up dramatically. I'm telling you, Obi

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Speaker 2: wan Kenobi lookalikes are never going to forget this Clay.

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Speaker 4: I'm telling I get it. All the what do they

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Speaker 4: call the cosplay people, all the people who wear their

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Speaker 4: their cost tooths. By the way, a lot of them

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Speaker 4: are Harry Potter people too. They even play fake quidditch right,

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Speaker 4: which isn't even real. They are crazy. Here's my argument.

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Speaker 4: Star Wars incredibly influential. I'm not anti Star Wars for

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Speaker 4: all of you out there that are coming after me

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Speaker 4: with your blaster guns, but the book and the movie

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Speaker 4: is more influential than just the movie standing alone. And

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Speaker 4: I think Buck, if you had been born in two

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Speaker 4: thousand or nineteen ninety instead of or yeah, nineteen ninety

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Speaker 4: or two thousand, you would feel very differently about this

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Speaker 4: hate that you're spreading on the biggest radio show in

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Speaker 4: the country. And we will continue to allow everyone to

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Speaker 4: ring a way in, including Dan in Den, who says

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Speaker 4: Buck's wrong.

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Speaker 1: Listen, my god, that Harry Potter rant there. I think

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Speaker 1: we know who the Grendle is.

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Speaker 7: Now Wow throwing me under the bus says it's I

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Speaker 7: know it's Frendled, just because I don't like Harry Potter

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Speaker 7: doesn't mean that I go tearing vikings in half and

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