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Speaker 4: If you were Damian Lillard, would you consider retiring right now?
Speaker 4: Last I check those poll results, it was an overwhelming no.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I'm getting paid one hundred million dollars to not play
Speaker 2: for the bus. I have to rehab. By the time
Speaker 2: I'm ready to play, I'll be thirty six.
Speaker 3: That's not old. That's I mean Durant's doing it. Why
Speaker 3: can't Dame Lillard?
Speaker 5: Now?
Speaker 2: Granted, Durant's seven feet tall, so you know he can
Speaker 2: still get his shot off. By the way, Lebron James
Speaker 2: had Kevin Durant on his podcast and he talked about
Speaker 2: Kevin Durant every time he takes a shot.
Speaker 6: So if you guys in our league that you believe
Speaker 6: every time they shoot the balls going and Katie is
Speaker 6: one of those guys, that's a lot of pressure.
Speaker 5: It is it is, it is. Listen, you shoot the ball.
Speaker 5: When Steph shoot the ball and Steph.
Speaker 6: Get a look, you just you don't think it's going
Speaker 6: You don't think he's gonna miss.
Speaker 2: Trying to think who else would be on that list.
Speaker 2: I agree Katie and Steph when they shoot, I think
Speaker 2: it's going in. Is there somebody where you go? He's
Speaker 2: right in that.
Speaker 3: Category where it's weird when they miss. Yes, Yes, Paul Peek.
Speaker 7: Ray Allen when he was spotted up at the end
Speaker 7: of his career.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I mean now, oh, I'm sorry, Marvin.
Speaker 8: Still, Klay Thompson, he's wide open cash Okay.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Not many guys on that list. When they're open, when
Speaker 2: they shoot, they make I always thought whenever Kareem shot
Speaker 2: the sky.
Speaker 3: Hook, it was going in.
Speaker 2: That That's probably the first guy that I can remember
Speaker 2: when he shot it was going in.
Speaker 3: Yes.
Speaker 8: Marmon mid range with Shay.
Speaker 2: Nh Okay, I need a little larger sample size maybe
Speaker 2: on that.
Speaker 3: I mean, Katie's been doing this for a long long time.
Speaker 8: So you need people ten years plus.
Speaker 2: No, it doesn't have to be ten. But you don't
Speaker 2: give me a good seven years six seven years. But
Speaker 2: you're right, I mean Shay, But Shay, his shots are
Speaker 2: contested from the standpoint of who's guarding him. Is probably
Speaker 2: his size, maybe a little taller. Kevin Durant's seven feet tall.
Speaker 2: They may list him at six'. Nine he's seven feet.
Speaker 2: Tall if you see him next To. Lebron lebron's supposed
Speaker 2: to be six' nine kd Seven.
Speaker 4: Feet Yes Does anthony edwards get into that list at?
Speaker 2: Some, point, HMM oh i guess, he CAN but i
Speaker 2: don't look him as a bucket. Like that he's pretty.
Speaker 2: Close though he nobody's Close TO Stephan. Kd open look
Speaker 2: those guys even CONTESTED. For kd he's scoring because it's
Speaker 2: rare if you're going to get a piece of. HIS
Speaker 2: shot I remember Anthony uh sion who was it just
Speaker 2: got Traded. From Portland does Simon's uh He blocked kd's shot?
Speaker 2: One TIME and i remember seeing, the highlight it, WAS
Speaker 2: like i gotta watch. That again but he blocked his
Speaker 2: shot maybe last year of the, year BEFORE and i
Speaker 2: was shocked like, a Jumper, LIKE dirk i don't you
Speaker 2: know he seven footer fading away.
Speaker 3: Really tough to block. That, Shot, yes paully it's a.
Speaker 7: Different shot But When jalen brunson Of the knicks does
Speaker 7: that little across into the middle and it's about ten
Speaker 7: eleven feet and he has an open eye on it
Speaker 7: and it, Rims out, you're, like, oh yeah it's.
Speaker 3: A Surprise but Katie and steph are in a category all.
Speaker 2: TIME category i always Thought whenever bird had a wide,
Speaker 2: open shot it was. Going in i'd put him on that,
Speaker 2: LIST too pauli Talked About ray allen. Wide, Open yes
Speaker 2: i'd put him on that. List too anybody else you
Speaker 2: can Think of marv like, wide open where, you go that's.
Speaker 2: A bucket now we're TALKING. About kd, you know somebody
Speaker 2: contesting him and it always feels like it's.
Speaker 3: Going, In.
Speaker 7: Yeah paul steph is the one, seed though when you
Speaker 7: see him going around and it doesn't go in and the,
Speaker 7: crowd does, oh, Yeah, Yes marv.
Speaker 8: And there's nothing worse than watching the, opposite uh the
Speaker 8: opposing coaches going how is? He OPEN.
Speaker 2: But i can go back to When the lakers Played
Speaker 2: the Celtics and magic hits the sky Hook the celtics all.
Speaker 2: Time out they run a Play And james worthy is
Speaker 2: actually holding On To larry, bird's shirt, his jersey and
Speaker 2: He Loses larry bird in the Corner and larry can
Speaker 2: win the game from the corner and he misses, the
Speaker 2: shot and We Had james. Worthy on, he goes oh,
Speaker 2: MY god i can't BELIEVE that i lost him and
Speaker 2: he could have hit that shot from. The corner kind
Speaker 2: of rattles in. And out, all right we'll come up
Speaker 2: with the pole question for. Hour two, jermaine O'Neill Former,
Speaker 2: all star is going to. Join Us jim jackson stops by.
Speaker 2: As well joining us Now is, Brett McCormick Sports. Business
Speaker 2: journal he, covers stadiums, fan, experience ticketing he covers. It
Speaker 2: all and we were thinking about having, You, on Brett
Speaker 2: because i'm looking at What the cleveland What the browns
Speaker 2: are doing moving to, the SUBURBS and i guess it's a,
Speaker 2: dome STADIUM but i, was wondering when does the stadium
Speaker 2: become obsolete in.
Speaker 3: Your eye.
Speaker 9: Great question and thanks for, Having me and as a
Speaker 9: Long suffering, HORNETS fan i hope That kahn knoople joins.
Speaker 10: The list you were just. Talking about that is that
Speaker 10: is the Prayer.
Speaker 9: In, charlotte, yeah no This is this is The topic
Speaker 9: i'm thinking about a lot right now because you have
Speaker 9: this cycle of stadiums that are coming up to the
Speaker 9: put up or shut.
Speaker 10: UP question.
Speaker 9: I guess so these stadiums built between nineteen ninety five
Speaker 9: and two thousand, And five you've Got, Like, Jacksonville, Charlotte.
Speaker 9: HOUSTON denver, i mean there's probably a dozen. Of them
Speaker 9: and it's the kind of the critical juncture, of where,
Speaker 9: you know architecturally and, engineering wise you look at should
Speaker 9: we renovate this or should we build a?
Speaker 10: New stadium and.
Speaker 9: YOU know i don't write about the, you know whether
Speaker 9: these should be financed, by who or whether it's a
Speaker 9: good investment, Or what but that is about the lifespan
Speaker 9: is twenty to twenty. Five years you're really studying should
Speaker 9: we build a new stadium in a different location or
Speaker 9: should we renovate what? We've got and you've got all
Speaker 9: of the above going on right now and a lot
Speaker 9: of those decisions are dictated. By location, you know is
Speaker 9: it in the urban area or is it developable around it.
Speaker 2: Or whatever THAT'S why i Understand. The browns if you
Speaker 2: want to do a, DOME stadium i. Get that but
Speaker 2: where that's located is great in my opinion having, been
Speaker 2: there and it feels like you could develop. AROUND that
Speaker 2: i guess if. You want i've Been to foxboro Where the.
Speaker 2: PATRIOTS play i mean they try to set up, something, there,
Speaker 2: like hey come Out. To foxboro will you Go to
Speaker 2: foxborough to See? The patriots you're not going to go to,
Speaker 2: You know Dave and buster's There, or applebee's bring the
Speaker 2: kids and let's go twenty miles.
Speaker 3: Or something.
Speaker 2: You Know the bears are moving out of downtown. As
Speaker 2: well is that a dome stadium?
Speaker 3: As well.
Speaker 6: That's a.
Speaker 9: GOOD question i haven't seen the, design yet but so
Speaker 9: what they're looking for. Is SPACE so i think With the,
Speaker 9: CLEVELAND waterfront i think there is an issue that it's
Speaker 9: difficult to develop down there because of some roads and
Speaker 9: the way it's. Set up but you would think that in,
Speaker 9: Both cases Chicago, and cleveland that the waterfront would be difficult.
Speaker 9: To BEAT but i think what they're looking for, is
Speaker 9: space and it kind of speaks to one of the
Speaker 9: trends that's happening. In sports venue designed right now more with,
Speaker 9: other sports, especially baseball where you've got people come into.
Speaker 9: Eighty games it's a little different WITH, the nfl but
Speaker 9: what they're trying to do is set up a stadium
Speaker 9: as a hub of a district where again you have, people,
Speaker 9: living working. And playing and that's what they're looking for.
Speaker 9: Is space and so.
Speaker 10: It is kind OF.
Speaker 9: When i talk, about location the location for certain teams
Speaker 9: can be, you know in an urban setting downtown in
Speaker 9: the midst, of everything and for other teams they may.
Speaker 9: Need space if you kind of think About, the braves,
Speaker 9: You Know atlanta braves kind of started this second round
Speaker 9: of mixed. Use development they left a Downtown in atlanta
Speaker 9: and moved out to the suburbs and created their Own
Speaker 9: Like Stepford wives Village or Timpkinville of, braves baseball, and.
Speaker 10: So, you know so teams have.
Speaker 9: Seen that and and the thing with mixed use development
Speaker 9: is it's appealing to sports teams because they don't have to.
Speaker 9: Share it it's not in the, revenue sharing so this
Speaker 9: is money that they keep and so that that has
Speaker 9: been a big impetus for joining this kind.
Speaker 10: Of development and you're.
Speaker 2: Talking About, the Bears, The Commanders, carolina Panthers, The Jaguars,
Speaker 2: calgary flames, you know renovation there For The, saddle Dome
Speaker 2: the Royals And white sox might be on the list
Speaker 2: there of doing the. Same thing it, feels like, you
Speaker 2: know even when you look At The dallas Mavericks Where
Speaker 2: mark Cuban said i'm not a real estate Guy and
Speaker 2: i'm going to sell it to real estate people and
Speaker 2: then tried to develop around the stadium and then bring in,
Speaker 2: a casino it's that the blueprint for what we should expect,
Speaker 2: with all, you Know.
Speaker 3: Even wriglely wrigley's got its own sports.
Speaker 9: Book, there yeah and it's it kind of speaks to,
Speaker 9: you know and you watch the costs of these are are,
Speaker 9: like skyrocketing and it's part part of it is because
Speaker 9: more is expected of.
Speaker 10: Venues now, you know you used.
Speaker 9: To have a lowerable, upper deck, you know maybe, some
Speaker 9: suites and that has. REALLY shifted, i mean you've got
Speaker 9: all kinds of seating products and different types of areas you,
Speaker 9: can stand and there's different technologies that allow you to
Speaker 9: buy beer faster and. More often and so, you know,
Speaker 9: from that from, that standpoint the experience has changed. A
Speaker 9: bit what, people expect like how you get in is
Speaker 9: often easier than it used. To be and, so yeah
Speaker 9: AND so i think what they have always thought about
Speaker 9: is you get people to come early and you get
Speaker 9: people to. Say later, and again that's the money that
Speaker 9: you're generating that you don't have to share with the
Speaker 9: other thirty thirty one owners and that's become. Highly appealing
Speaker 9: as you, know this this whole thing has become. MORE
Speaker 9: competitive i think more of the sports ownership groups are
Speaker 9: looking at these as businesses and less of like a whole,
Speaker 9: you know status play Thing that i'm going to hand
Speaker 9: off to. My kids and so, you're saying like a
Speaker 9: lot of new ownership groups that are coming in with very,
Speaker 9: different ideas, You Know josh harris With the commanders and
Speaker 9: Like the walton Family, with denver which is going to
Speaker 9: be added to. THIS list i think they've got a
Speaker 9: project that is brewing. Out there so, you know.
Speaker 10: Kind of different ownership groups bringing.
Speaker 9: Different ideas and then just the changes that have happened
Speaker 9: with the stand experience over like twenty to thirty years
Speaker 9: are really influencing.
Speaker 5: These.
Speaker 2: DESIGNS yeah i go Back To camden yards because they
Speaker 2: moved it back into the city and you had the,
Speaker 2: waterfront there a, beautiful stadium we had the, warehouse there
Speaker 2: Great FAN but i, don't know is that Becoming Obsolete
Speaker 2: camden yards that are they going to want to do.
Speaker 3: SOMETHING different.
Speaker 10: I don't think, it's OBSOLETE but i think you could
Speaker 10: see more.
Speaker 9: Around it so if you think about what's across the
Speaker 9: parking LOT IS M Andt, bank stadium which is another
Speaker 9: one of these Where the, ravens played it's. Getting renovated
Speaker 9: you've got like this massive parking lot in. Between that
Speaker 9: and So if i'm a, Parking lot, i'm like, you
Speaker 9: know you're in the crosshairs because it's the lowest, you
Speaker 9: know it's the lowest possible use of land is to
Speaker 9: is to park. On it and so and if you
Speaker 9: think About With camden YARDS an M And T, bank
Speaker 9: stadium there's a train that runs right, by it, you
Speaker 9: know so if you can get people to use, the
Speaker 9: train you can use that parking lot for. SOMETHING else
Speaker 9: i would watch a city field. With this, you know
Speaker 9: you've got a highly aggressive owner Who's, very uh he's
Speaker 9: got some change and they've got, you know probably one
Speaker 9: of the best public transit setups IN the us for,
Speaker 9: public sports for, sports venues and you know he's trying
Speaker 9: to build a casino and basically develop those. Parking LOTS
Speaker 9: so i Think The camden yards thing is is the
Speaker 9: aesthetic and like the vibes there are probably more popular,
Speaker 9: than ever but you just got to have something. Beyond
Speaker 9: it now it kind of the stadium itself sort of
Speaker 9: bleeds into this, next level, you know this.
Speaker 2: Next layer what is the least modern stadium or the?
Speaker 2: Worst stadium, Great QUESTION so i, would say so we
Speaker 2: were just Talking About.
Speaker 9: Camden Yards camden yards kind of sparked this like REVIVAL
Speaker 9: of I don't i don't know the, architectural term but
Speaker 9: maybe like neo classical or something. Like that the one
Speaker 9: that was built right before THAT was i think it's
Speaker 9: Now Called rape field Where The white, sox play and
Speaker 9: this is the last of the last stadium before all
Speaker 9: the cool, Stadiums basically and so that's that's widely agreed
Speaker 9: with one of the just they like, no personality it's
Speaker 9: it's there's there's.
Speaker 3: Not much there wasn't that cellular.
Speaker 9: Isn't it it's it was GUARANTEED great.
Speaker 10: Us CELLULAR yeah i, Was, THERE.
Speaker 2: Yeah i was there for the last Game at comiski
Speaker 2: and one of the first ones at.
Speaker 3: THE cell i. Remember that, YOU know i think charm is.
Speaker 2: The word you're, probably like we want something that has
Speaker 2: a little charm, to it a little nostalgia. As well
Speaker 2: but what is the best Stadium?
Speaker 5: In america.
Speaker 10: Great questions like, actually modern.
Speaker 3: Modern state let.
Speaker 10: Me add one more to the.
Speaker 9: Worst ones everybody's excited to see what happens WITH the
Speaker 9: RFK because I Think FedExField night or or whatever it's,
Speaker 9: Called Now northwest Mutual Something northwest stadium is. Widely agreed
Speaker 9: it's probably the worst STADIUM in, us sports and in
Speaker 9: a location it's out in the middle, of nowhere is nothing.
Speaker 5: Around it, you.
Speaker 9: Know you literally had sewage fall, on people railings, fall
Speaker 9: over they. Got SUED so i think everybody is stoke
Speaker 9: to see what happens with with them AND potentially rfk the.
Speaker 9: Best stadium this is a, great question and it's probably
Speaker 9: like a. Bit objective it kind of depends sports, a
Speaker 9: sport it's going to.
Speaker 5: Be DIFFERENT but I.
Speaker 9: Think i really love the mid city kind of older.
Speaker 9: STYLE ballparks i think. EVERYBODY does i would EVEN say
Speaker 9: i would even Say The pittsburgh pirates have a, pretty
Speaker 9: strong pretty, strong case which has always cracked, me up
Speaker 9: because if you had promotion and Relegation In Major, league baseball,
Speaker 9: you know they'd probably they'd probably be A single a team.
Speaker 9: By now but because because they don't, get relegated they've
Speaker 9: invested in their ballpark and, it's Beautiful The candy yards
Speaker 9: is it's definitely. UP there, i mean they're about to
Speaker 9: do a major renovation, on it which will. Modernize IT
Speaker 9: but i, don't think, YOU know i don't THINK that's
Speaker 9: i don't think they're going to touch it any of
Speaker 9: the kind of mystique, of it, YOU know.
Speaker 10: I don't i.
Speaker 9: Don't Overly love Benway and wrigley because they're they're really really,
Speaker 9: old like so they are, very cramped and, you know
Speaker 9: and in terms of somebody who, visits stadiums.
Speaker 10: You know it's not it's not like a great it's
Speaker 10: not a. Great, time.
Speaker 9: Yeah that's that's a. GREAT question i Really. Like pittsburgh
Speaker 9: it's a great it's a. Great, ballpark brett thanks for.
Speaker 3: Joining us we. Appreciate, it yeah.
Speaker 10: It's fun thanks for, having me, All right.
Speaker 3: Brett McCormick Sports.
Speaker 2: Business journal now you start to look at, THESE stadiums,
Speaker 2: i mean it's it's incredible the number of stadiums that
Speaker 2: are being built. Or renovated and you go back To
Speaker 2: What stan cronk Did In, los angeles even With The Golden, State,
Speaker 2: warriors like you want to have something and then you
Speaker 2: want apartments. Around it you you want to have things.
Speaker 2: Around it and it helps when you have a basketball
Speaker 2: or a, baseball team certainly a, Baseball team so you
Speaker 2: get eighty one, days there maybe you get the postseason,
Speaker 2: in there but then the other days you want to
Speaker 2: be able to get concerts.
Speaker 3: In there you want events.
Speaker 2: In there if you're GOT an, nfl stadium THAT'S where
Speaker 2: i understand that you're gonna want. A dome And if
Speaker 2: cleveland wants to, move OUT although i love, that location.
Speaker 3: Can't you put a dome on? That STADIUM.
Speaker 2: And i think most financial experts will say the people
Speaker 2: who benefit from this are. The owners it's not like
Speaker 2: cities do the real estate people and the owners usually
Speaker 2: do well. With this, it's, like hey this is gonna,
Speaker 2: provide job this is gonna mean and This.
Speaker 3: Is, i'm, like, Okay.
Speaker 4: Okay so what we're gonna do is take this teams
Speaker 4: out of the city and then build a new stadium
Speaker 4: to build a city around the new stadium that we
Speaker 4: took out of.
Speaker 3: The, CITY yeah i.
Speaker 2: DON'T agree i don't KNOW if i want to go
Speaker 2: to the SUBURBS where. I, go hey, come, on kids
Speaker 2: we're going to the suburbs that you're going to go
Speaker 2: out there to a restaurant in the suburbs if you
Speaker 2: live twenty, miles away.
Speaker 4: They're typically not You Know michelin star restaurants that they
Speaker 4: put around.
Speaker 2: These, Things, Yeah Hey gordon ramsey opened up a new.
Speaker 2: Restaurant here, let's.
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Speaker 2: Irving texas he played eighteen seasons IN, the nba played
Speaker 2: for seven, different teams and back in nineteen, ninety six
Speaker 2: seventeenth pick overall By The Portland. Trail, blazers jermaine good
Speaker 2: to catch up with. You again take me back to that.
Speaker 2: Draft night what were you seventeen years of age? Back,
Speaker 2: THEN yeah i.
Speaker 6: Was seventeen first, Of, ALL dan i appreciate you having,
Speaker 6: me BACK so i was good to see and talk.
Speaker 5: To you but it was a pretty.
Speaker 6: Amazing, night obviously back then the rules were a lot different.
Speaker 6: From perspective once you made, yourself eligible it was no
Speaker 6: time period where you can go through the. Draft process, it,
Speaker 6: was hey, you commit you make yourself eligible for.
Speaker 5: The draft, you know you for feed your.
Speaker 6: College eligibility and it was nerve wracking obviously as a
Speaker 6: seventeen year old and not really knowing what the. Process
Speaker 6: IS but i was truly blessed to have a guy
Speaker 6: In marn tellham who was my agent And UH. Son,
Speaker 6: p carrol, you know who went through the process with
Speaker 6: me and helped educate educate me about the, you know
Speaker 6: the PROCESS that i was about to.
Speaker 3: Go, into okay but seventeen on, the, road.
Speaker 5: Right, SO listen i got to. Say this, you Know.
Speaker 6: The Portland trail blazers did an amazing job on being
Speaker 6: prepared for a seventeen year old and all of. My
Speaker 6: teammates they made SURE that i they did things with
Speaker 6: me on the road that you know that made sense
Speaker 6: for my age and and they were prepared for me to.
Speaker 3: Get there how did they?
Speaker 2: Prepare you because there's a lot of things that can
Speaker 2: go wrong on, the road no matter, how old you.
Speaker 6: Are one, hundred PERCENT though i think a lot of It,
Speaker 6: IS honestly i stuck with the core values of how
Speaker 6: my mother, raised me making SURE that i understood what
Speaker 6: my purpose WAS when i. Got, THERE obviously i knew
Speaker 6: the task of trying to become a professional athlete and
Speaker 6: a good professional athlete in basketball was, very difficult, you
Speaker 6: know because of that big age gap. And transition but,
Speaker 6: you know my focus was, you know, you know always
Speaker 6: proved not only to the people that were SAYING that
Speaker 6: i wasn't a great draft pick at, the time but,
Speaker 6: you know for myself most IMPORTANTLY that.
Speaker 5: I KNEW what.
Speaker 2: I Was cooper flag's going in that, same age that
Speaker 2: same Age. As lebron what advice would you?
Speaker 8: Give?
Speaker 6: Him man just, you know obviously things a lot different
Speaker 6: now from a perspective of social, social media and we're
Speaker 6: seeing this impact on how social makes.
Speaker 5: People feel he has to be able to give hisself
Speaker 5: some grace.
Speaker 6: As well, YOU know i was just a lot of
Speaker 6: pressure being the number, one pick going to a situation that,
Speaker 6: you know he lost another really, good player so people
Speaker 6: are expecting him to come in and feel.
Speaker 5: A void he needs to really just focus on what
Speaker 5: he can do.
Speaker 6: In his development and give itself grace over a period
Speaker 6: of time that he has to understand the transition from
Speaker 6: college TO.
Speaker 3: The nba you Coached Against, COOPER flag, i did you
Speaker 3: know quite.
Speaker 6: A bit, you know he's he was in my sons
Speaker 6: that originally the twenty twenty, five class and then he.
Speaker 6: RECLASSED up i think it's after his. Junior Year but
Speaker 6: i've been Coaching, against cooper, you know since seventh.
Speaker 3: Eighth grade and what did? You see when did you?
Speaker 3: See it?
Speaker 5: You know the first thing that jumped out to me.
Speaker 6: Right away used to WEAR these i Called The patrick
Speaker 6: ewing knee pass all.
Speaker 5: The time and he was. A kid i, was like
Speaker 5: why why is?
Speaker 3: This kid.
Speaker 5: But his?
Speaker 6: Talent level he always had, ball skills, you know bring the,
Speaker 6: ball up, you know beat people off. The dribble he's.
Speaker 6: Always athletic. You know the THING that i Loved, about
Speaker 6: COOPER and i, told him listen To LAST nike YbO
Speaker 6: game that you KNOW that i coached, against, him men
Speaker 6: is that he approached the game the. Right way he's never,
Speaker 6: sped up he's never shot. Chasing right he can impact.
Speaker 6: The GAME but i didn't even have the ball in.
Speaker 6: His hand how, you know, he defends how he, blocks
Speaker 6: shots how, he rebounds how he communicates.
Speaker 5: His Team so i'm deaf and looking for great things
Speaker 5: for his kid in.
Speaker 2: His Career but carmelo came out on A podcast i
Speaker 2: think he might have Been With, paul george and he
Speaker 2: Said that cooper doesn't have, the bag like he doesn't
Speaker 2: have that. Signature MOVE and, i said but he does.
Speaker 2: EVERYTHING else, i mean, he's seventeen eighteen years. OF age
Speaker 2: i don't expect him to have that signature move. Right
Speaker 2: away did you see like he can always be a,
Speaker 2: better shooter, deeper shooter but it feels like he can go,
Speaker 2: inside out doesn't mind contact those kind. Of things, but
Speaker 2: offensively what would you suggest he needs to work on?
Speaker 6: The shooting OBVIOUSLY the nba is about, shooting now so the.
Speaker 6: Consistent shooting obviously the three point line is a little
Speaker 6: bit deeper than. The COLLEGE but i would Agree. With, Carmelo,
Speaker 6: carmelo actually You Know KYENE is i was in that,
Speaker 6: same class so, you know we've been seeing each Other
Speaker 6: the joe for a very. Long time but, from perspective
Speaker 6: it's important that he understands that he doesn't have to
Speaker 6: be anybody else.
Speaker 5: But, Himself right he's Like a swiss, army.
Speaker 6: Knife right he has so many different things that he
Speaker 6: can bring to the table and he just needs to focus.
Speaker 6: On that, you know he doesn't have a, flashy bag
Speaker 6: but his flashes.
Speaker 2: His impact i'm Talking to, jermaine, O'Neil head Coach Of
Speaker 2: Dynamic prep Academy, In irving texas and spend eighteen seasons IN.
Speaker 3: The nba do you have.
Speaker 2: A theory on why we've Seen these? Achilles tears.
Speaker 5: That's interesting we've been talking to talking a lot.
Speaker 6: ABOUT this, i think, you know one of the things
Speaker 6: that people, talk about, you know, the pace and the
Speaker 6: pace is. REALLY fast i think, from perspective, you know
Speaker 6: the days, of practicing, you know like. Really practicing, you
Speaker 6: know they don't practice, as, much right they have, more
Speaker 6: downtime and when you look at, the pace you know
Speaker 6: of how fast, they're PLAYING and i don't know if
Speaker 6: the body's as conditioned to play at.
Speaker 5: That pace so they have a lot of, rest days
Speaker 5: not a lot of.
Speaker 6: Contact days and so from a perspective, of like, you
Speaker 6: know being able to be conditioned for that quick twitch
Speaker 6: to change, your possession, you know that is SOMETHING that
Speaker 6: i think has has a lot to do.
Speaker 2: With it your kids ask about who you played against
Speaker 2: or you're welcome TO the? Nba moment Did they they
Speaker 2: want to know what was it like guarding or being?
Speaker 2: Guarded by who's? The player of players they, ASK about
Speaker 2: i don't.
Speaker 6: Think the kids Really ask they always ask about how was?
Speaker 6: It right it's always the question of how was it
Speaker 6: to play in, The league and, you know how was
Speaker 6: to play against, you know Guys like Shaq and kobe
Speaker 6: and And was Lebron And. Michael jordan i've been able
Speaker 6: to play against, you know all.
Speaker 3: Of them but what was your welcome TO the? Nba
Speaker 3: moment Mm Hmm keema lodge One, in houston, and uh
Speaker 3: that was not.
Speaker 5: A great matchup. For me.
Speaker 3: It wasn't a great matchup for a lot of guys Your,
Speaker 3: main yeah.
Speaker 6: You know and it's, So, FUNNY dan i don't think
Speaker 6: people talk enough about a king Like the king is literally.
Speaker 5: He was he had, the footwork he had, the moves,
Speaker 5: you know he.
Speaker 6: Had the I'M shot i mean obviously he's all time,
Speaker 6: shot blocking, you know leader you know IN. THE nba
Speaker 6: i mean he just impacted the game and so many
Speaker 6: times and. Many times, you know people don't give him
Speaker 6: a lot of credit, to us but he was fasting
Speaker 6: a lot in his career and it's hard to do
Speaker 6: and play at, that level, you know not being able to.
Speaker 5: Eat, before games eating through, you know eat through a period.
Speaker 2: Of, TIME yeah i think, he's underrated like because we
Speaker 2: look at the big man and then it's old by the,
Speaker 2: oh yeah then A chem. Elijah on but, you know,
Speaker 2: HIS footwork i think soccer really. HELPED him i thought
Speaker 2: his footwork was impeccable for a.
Speaker 3: Big man he's just dance.
Speaker 6: With people and, YOU know i remember killing in the
Speaker 6: GAME and i try to give him all of, my
Speaker 6: files right and it was wasn't in the game to
Speaker 6: sub somebody else in.
Speaker 5: Foul trouble it's eighteen. Years old. It was it. Was
Speaker 5: ridiculous but, you know he's a GUY that.
Speaker 6: I always liked to watch because he was almost impossible.
Speaker 6: To guard, you know he can hit you, with anything
Speaker 6: and he was like. A ballerina i think he just
Speaker 6: danced with you at.
Speaker 3: All times, jordan's uh take advantage.
Speaker 5: Of You now i've had a chance to.
Speaker 6: Guard Him but Jordan is people always have this conversation about,
Speaker 6: you know. The greatest and first, Of all i'm, you
Speaker 6: know these are these guys are, all great, you know
Speaker 6: within their own, you know their own uh you, Know
Speaker 6: Games but jordan himself had a DIFFERENT or i remember
Speaker 6: being In An all star game and obviously you've been
Speaker 6: in the locker room and, it's like, you know everybody's
Speaker 6: his best players in, the, world right and we, consider ourselves,
Speaker 6: you know so the best you know IN. The Nba
Speaker 6: and jordan's always come in a little, bit, Late right he's,
Speaker 6: a lad but you can hear. Him coming AND what
Speaker 6: i mean, by that you hear it's kind of like
Speaker 6: the noise and then you hit the cameras and then
Speaker 6: he walks into the locker room and everybody just stopped
Speaker 6: talking and just he just walks by and he'll be.
Speaker 6: Just looking he was almost like, a god, you know to,
Speaker 6: be honest and, you know he's done so.
Speaker 5: Much for, the.
Speaker 6: Game MAN but i think his impact generationally has just
Speaker 6: been something that we, hadn't seen you.
Speaker 3: Know Before did kobe have? THAT too.
Speaker 6: I think kobe, had it, YOU know i think, you
Speaker 6: Know obviously lebron has it, as well but they don't.
Speaker 5: Have it was like it's like great AND is a
Speaker 5: AND then B.
Speaker 6: And c you Know what i'm saying from a perspective
Speaker 6: of like how we, as players, you know when we, see,
Speaker 6: him right, YOU know i grew Up, with kobe so,
Speaker 6: you know we're in the same high, school CLASS so
Speaker 6: i didn't necessarily.
Speaker 5: Look at him.
Speaker 6: That way, You Know michael jordan is the one, THAT really,
Speaker 6: i think, you know really TOOK the, nba to, you
Speaker 6: know the.
Speaker 5: Next level, you know with.
Speaker 3: His starting mike has a mystery.
Speaker 2: About him, you know there's not a Mystery, with lebron
Speaker 2: maybe not a Mystery.
Speaker 3: With kobe What was kobe like though you faced him?
Speaker 6: In, camps, Yeah yeah we've been facing each other since we.
Speaker 6: Were Thirteen and kobe was always dedicated. To basketball AND
Speaker 6: what i mean by that is like he he literally
Speaker 6: didn't carried around a Lot Of michael, Jordan taates like
Speaker 6: he would not do the typical things that we would do.
Speaker 6: At camps he wouldn't really hang. Out much he was,
Speaker 6: always studying. Always STUDYING so i wasn't surprised to see
Speaker 6: the type of career that he had because he wanted
Speaker 6: to sacrifice other things just to make sure he was
Speaker 6: considered one of the graces.
Speaker 2: EVER play i remember Talking To rick fox some Of
Speaker 2: the lakers and they were out at a BAR and,
Speaker 2: i Said where's Kobe And. Derek fisher, they LAUGHED and,
Speaker 2: i go why? You're laughing, they go he didn't. Go
Speaker 2: out he stays in. His room, i'm, Like, okay, SO.
Speaker 5: Yeah i, THINK then i think that was the.
Speaker 6: Biggest thing like early in, his career you heard a
Speaker 6: lot of noise about he wasn't a, great, TEAMMATE right,
Speaker 6: i mean people didn't know a lot about him on his,
Speaker 6: own TEAM and i think some of that was.
Speaker 5: That was his, genetic.
Speaker 6: Makeup right he was, always, Studying right he's, always preparing,
Speaker 6: and yeah to, a point it was almost too, you
Speaker 6: know a default when it came to how people perceive
Speaker 6: his own teammates proceeding because, they didn't, you know get
Speaker 6: a chance to hang out. With them and that's one
Speaker 6: of the things that we always do on. The team
Speaker 6: we are always around. Each other and if you don't see,
Speaker 6: your teammate then you your, mindset, is hey he doesn't
Speaker 6: want to be, around us or you know.
Speaker 5: Something else but he was always studying.
Speaker 2: And Preparing This dame lillard situation is really interesting. For
Speaker 2: Me the bucks are going to pay him one hundred
Speaker 2: million dollars to, Not play he's going, To rehab he's
Speaker 2: going to be. THIRTY six i think it's, a huge
Speaker 2: huge Opportunity For dame lillard in a team that will
Speaker 2: get him next spring when he's healthy and could be
Speaker 2: helping a team in. The playoffs your thoughts on What
Speaker 2: the bucks Did And dame, Lillard's, future, Well one i'm.
Speaker 5: Not surprised you know about the.
Speaker 6: Business now Obviously the apron tax your threshold now is in,
Speaker 6: full effect so teams are trying to figure out ways
Speaker 6: to maneuver. Around that so things like this is probably
Speaker 6: this is probably not gonna be, you know last time
Speaker 6: we see something. Like this but From A dame, LILLARD
Speaker 6: perspective i think he now has a true opportunity to
Speaker 6: win a championship now because now he gets you just
Speaker 6: have To have he doesn't have to rush back to
Speaker 6: figure out free agency or, you know whatever it. May
Speaker 6: be he can really take his time and really evaluate,
Speaker 6: each roster evaluate his. Best fit and, you know for
Speaker 6: a player that gets a chance to basically sit out a.
Speaker 5: Year, AND prepare i mean that's an.
Speaker 6: Amazing opportunity and by the way still get paid over
Speaker 6: the next five years twenty plus million dollars from a
Speaker 6: team that you don't.
Speaker 3: Play for did people think you were Related? To, shank
Speaker 3: yeah all.
Speaker 6: The time it's funny because Me and shack have family Members,
Speaker 6: in southron so we did talk a little bit.
Speaker 5: About IT but i get that question all.
Speaker 3: The time what was it like to? Guard him?
Speaker 6: Very difficult, YOU know i Really believe shaq is he's
Speaker 6: a special. Human, being obviously he's, a giant, incredibly strong,
Speaker 6: very kind HARD and i think even to, a point
Speaker 6: is as dominant as he as he was in his
Speaker 6: career and probably one of the most maybe the most
Speaker 6: dominant player at that position we've. Ever seen, you know
Speaker 6: he really cared, about people and sometimes he will pull
Speaker 6: up a little bit if he liked you in, the
Speaker 6: game and, you know.
Speaker 3: He's just what do, you mean how would you he
Speaker 3: wasn't taken?
Speaker 5: To, you well, he will you, could tell like, he
Speaker 5: will he.
Speaker 6: Won't like it's certain players that you knew he, didn't,
Speaker 6: Like right and you can tell from start, to, Finish
Speaker 6: right and then you get.
Speaker 5: In games sometimes you see him talking and.
Speaker 6: Laughing with the guys that he's competing AGAINST and i
Speaker 6: think some of it was to respect for, other people
Speaker 6: but also to, You.
Speaker 5: KNOW shaq I think shock understood just how strong.
Speaker 6: He was i've never ever seen or played against a person,
Speaker 6: that size that nimble and. That, strong uh and he
Speaker 6: could really probably just, you know people wouldn't grabbing him all.
Speaker 5: The time, you know he had, great.
Speaker 6: Composure but he could have really just dominated people if
Speaker 6: he really wanted to just.
Speaker 2: Destroy Everybody the pacers, moving forward it almost feels like
Speaker 2: they might be taking this next year Off with haliburton
Speaker 2: Hurt And miles turner goes to.
Speaker 3: The box what do?
Speaker 2: You think, you know You, got celtics, They're Damaged the
Speaker 2: knicks are going to, be There the cabs are going to.
Speaker 3: Be there seventy six ers.
Speaker 2: Aren't MUCH but, i Mean the pacers were a feel
Speaker 2: good story and then all of, a sudden now You're
Speaker 2: without haliburton and you're going to Be Without.
Speaker 3: Miles, turner.
Speaker 5: Yeah it's one of those things in really.
Speaker 6: Pro sports but, you KNOW you i was rooting For
Speaker 6: the pacers to, win IT and i thought that they
Speaker 6: could win it if it wasn't for.
Speaker 5: That injury but.
Speaker 6: Like you, Never know like in, this business you have
Speaker 6: to almost be all in you know in the year
Speaker 6: that you can you can you know you can, get
Speaker 6: there because things like an injury or, you know or
Speaker 6: a coaching change or a key player going to a,
Speaker 6: different team it derails it and it doesn't really guarante he,
Speaker 6: you know you you'll get. Back there, you know hell
Speaker 6: That was it took twenty five years to get to that.
Speaker 6: Point AGAIN so i do believe that it's an opportunity
Speaker 6: for some of the other young teams with all the
Speaker 6: injuries you know that, we've had, you know late season
Speaker 6: with guy's been out all of, next year Like The,
Speaker 6: orlando Magic The. TORONTO raptors I think i Think the
Speaker 6: sixers can get back if, they're healthy, you.
Speaker 5: Know dominant but, you know.
Speaker 3: We'll see when's the lasestime? You, dunked.
Speaker 5: Uh probably a couple maybe a month or.
Speaker 3: So ago, oh okay just showing off, AND.
Speaker 6: Listen i can go to a right league right now
Speaker 6: and leading. AND scoring i PROMISE you. I. Could, GOOD
Speaker 6: yeah i still try to stay in pretty good shape
Speaker 6: and believe it, or not EVERY year i have kids
Speaker 6: off from my school or my club that wants to
Speaker 6: challenge me one. On one i'm the old guy that
Speaker 6: they seem to think that they can beat and have to.
Speaker 6: Remind THEM and i got paid to do this for,
Speaker 6: a career, you Know so i'm not gonna allow a teenager.
Speaker 3: To be could you so you Could Beat cooper flag one?
Speaker 3: On ONE so.
Speaker 5: I didn't i didn't say all.
Speaker 2: Of, that okay, all right it felt like you were
Speaker 2: on the verge of.
Speaker 3: Saying, That no i'm not saying all of that.
Speaker 6: Right, now okay THERE'S what i will tell YOU if
Speaker 6: i had if we had a possession game where we
Speaker 6: were playing mid posts to posts and we're going to
Speaker 6: let's call it five to one, ON one i like.
Speaker 3: My, chances OKAY.
Speaker 4: Then.
Speaker 5: I don't i don't like your response. On that though
Speaker 5: you have no faith, IN me.
Speaker 3: I don't have to.
Speaker 2: SEE it, i mean what are you, forty five, forty six?
Speaker 2: Forty six and if we're just paying playing in, the,
Speaker 2: post yeah you're you're going To Dominate.
Speaker 6: Cooper, Flag listen I'M saying i will be ABLE to
Speaker 6: i like my chances against anybody in the post at. This,
Speaker 6: point now if we're talking about playing, Full court i'm not,
Speaker 6: Doing That like i'm gonna lose.
Speaker 5: That battle these legs don't have that.
Speaker 2: Much, gas OKAY if i have You against Victor winbin
Speaker 2: yama right now in the post.
Speaker 3: And we're just, straight, posts yes, Post, work, YEAH yeah.
Speaker 5: I think i got. A chance I, do, okay ABSOLUTELY
Speaker 5: then i can, RIGHT now i can, work again Let's beat, That's.
Speaker 3: Okay okay you know how these these comments go when.
Speaker 8: You say you gotta?
Speaker 3: GO viral, i, Know.
Speaker 6: Right, so listen if we, just, said hey don't we
Speaker 6: bo on, the post we go one on one versus
Speaker 6: me garden and and and me having, OFFENSIVE possessions i
Speaker 6: still like my chances against ANYBODY because i still am
Speaker 6: pretty nimble from a perspective of being able. To, play
Speaker 6: now if it goes to like going up and down
Speaker 6: the court and screening rolls and all, that stuff yeah
Speaker 6: you can take me out. Of that but if it's mono,
Speaker 6: and mono let's, POST up I think i got.
Speaker 3: A chance so You'd beat lebron if you. Post up.
Speaker 5: Then this IS.
Speaker 6: Because i believe THAT if i had the ball and
Speaker 6: if we plan just straight, post, UP yeah.
Speaker 5: I Believe that i'm. Strong.
Speaker 6: ENOUGH still I think i'm still agile enough to score
Speaker 6: in the low POSTS because i do it.
Speaker 5: EVERY year i still go on to. Basketball quest still,
Speaker 5: you know. Do things.
Speaker 6: I'm listening i'm sure if You Ask joe johnson, these,
Speaker 6: things right you ask any of the older guys that still,
Speaker 6: work out they're going to tell you the. Same thing
Speaker 6: but they're not going, to, SAY look i can run
Speaker 6: up and down the court with, these guys because.
Speaker 5: We're not we can't.
Speaker 2: Do that so you Could dominate lebron in, the post
Speaker 2: is what, you're Saying and cooper flag you can. DOMINATE
Speaker 2: him i said that VICTORIN be i just want to
Speaker 2: MAKE sure i got this right.
Speaker 3: FOR me i just Want to.
Speaker 6: I'm SAYING that I have i FEEL like i have
Speaker 6: a chance to win a one on one in the
Speaker 6: low POST like ut win it, or not. We'll see
Speaker 6: but if we're talking about just playing one on one in,
Speaker 6: the post THERE'S something i do, every, YEAR right i
Speaker 6: still still work out quite.
Speaker 3: A Bit and lebron's not that much younger.
Speaker 6: Than you so and men shout Out to, lebron, too
Speaker 6: then like forty plus years old doing what.
Speaker 2: He's. Doing amazing great to talk to. You again keep
Speaker 2: working on the low, Post, MOVES okay.
Speaker 5: I will i. Appreciate it In.
Speaker 2: That's, jermaine O'Neill head Coach Of Dynamic prep Academy, In.
Speaker 2: Irving texas it didn't matter WHAT name i. Threw out
Speaker 2: you could just see he's just. Processing it IT'S like
Speaker 2: i like. My, Chances, yes mark but.
Speaker 8: We talked about that yesterday when, You, said Hey Does
Speaker 8: james harden think he's better than so? And so these
Speaker 8: guys they're. Wired, DIFFERENT yes.
Speaker 2: I Still want lebron to Say, to katie do you
Speaker 2: think you're better?
Speaker 3: Than me on? That, podcast damn that would be a. Great,
Speaker 3: question yes.
Speaker 4: But these kids don't play The way, jermaine O'Neill guys
Speaker 4: like him grew, up. Playing right they don't play that
Speaker 4: post sort of banging bodies kind. Of, thing, heck yeah
Speaker 4: he Could Push. Cooper flag he's gonna he can. Look
Speaker 4: on he Can Push victor. Wembenyama around, heck yet he's.
Speaker 3: Not Gonna push.
Speaker 2: Lebron around Maybe, Not OKAY but i like THE confidence i,
Speaker 2: have that, you know blind drunk.
Speaker 3: Confidence too take a break back, after.
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Speaker 2: This Story The cleveland Brown's insider Mary. Kay cabot she
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Speaker 2: maybe tomorrow maybe a little bit More because i'm reading
Speaker 2: varying reports there about you know who's, the favorite and,
Speaker 2: you know Is It? Kenny pickett which it Feels Like
Speaker 2: kenny pickett might be the leader in. The clubhouse but
Speaker 2: that's just to start. The season keep, in Mind the
Speaker 2: browns have two first round picks, next year just, you
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Speaker 2: Their quarterback greatest week? In sports who had the greatest week? In,
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Speaker 2: sports i'm giving IT To sg they signs a new,
Speaker 2: four year two hundred and eighty five Million dollars.
Speaker 8: Supermax extension his salary will steadily in christmsword reaches seventy
Speaker 8: eight million during the thirty thirty. One season according to our,
Speaker 8: Guest Yesterday Bobby Marks.
Speaker 3: Satan dame it's not. Even close and you know that's a.
Speaker 4: Great week You got paide a gajillion dollars to go wherever,
Speaker 4: he wants march my word.
Speaker 3: Next spring. He's Healthy Marvin.
Speaker 8: Miles turner signing it a nice big deal after a
Speaker 8: long career With.
Speaker 5: The pacers good, for.
Speaker 3: Him, All. Right paul best week? In sports i'll Go
Speaker 3: With pittsburgh.
Speaker 7: Steeler fans it feels like your team has a, new
Speaker 7: URGENCY and i think they had a nice month off.
Speaker 9: The.
Speaker 3: FIELD yeah i just NEED.
Speaker 2: The tj watts situation to, be rectified, because look If
Speaker 2: the bengals Bring Back, trey hendrickson they finally get him,
Speaker 2: in camp and what, Is It shamar stewart and he,
Speaker 2: comes In the bengals are going to be there to
Speaker 2: win that division if those two. THINGS happen i really
Speaker 2: believe that they will be there at. The end with
Speaker 2: that offense and you get a little bit of, defense
Speaker 2: there all you have to do is be middle of
Speaker 2: the pack because that offense is going to. Be Elite
Speaker 2: final hour on the way our Good Buddy, jim JACKSON former.
Speaker 2: Nba player lots of things to talk about. WITH him
Speaker 2: I enjoyed. GERMAINE O'Neil i hope you enjoyed it. As
Speaker 2: well had a great appearance last time he was on.
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