1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:03,560 Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox 2 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:05,560 Speaker 1: Sports Radio Hour two. 3 00:00:05,360 --> 00:00:09,280 Speaker 2: On this Wednesday. It's a meat Wednesday. We're off tomorrow 4 00:00:09,320 --> 00:00:14,640 Speaker 2: and Friday. Dylan the resident chef has beef, Wellington cream, spinach, 5 00:00:15,080 --> 00:00:17,840 Speaker 2: garlic and sage whip mashed potatoes. 6 00:00:18,160 --> 00:00:22,040 Speaker 3: Who has it better than we do? 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Poll question from our one and what 14 00:00:38,080 --> 00:00:39,920 Speaker 2: are we going to go with an hour two of 15 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:40,880 Speaker 2: the program, Seaton. 16 00:00:41,720 --> 00:00:44,800 Speaker 4: If you were Damian Lillard, would you consider retiring right now? 17 00:00:46,040 --> 00:00:48,920 Speaker 4: Last I check those poll results, it was an overwhelming no. 18 00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:49,440 Speaker 5: Yeah. 19 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:53,760 Speaker 2: I'm getting paid one hundred million dollars to not play 20 00:00:53,800 --> 00:00:57,040 Speaker 2: for the bus. I have to rehab. By the time 21 00:00:57,120 --> 00:00:58,800 Speaker 2: I'm ready to play, I'll be thirty six. 22 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:04,640 Speaker 3: That's not old. That's I mean Durant's doing it. Why 23 00:01:04,680 --> 00:01:05,479 Speaker 3: can't Dame Lillard? 24 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:05,640 Speaker 5: Now? 25 00:01:05,680 --> 00:01:10,479 Speaker 2: Granted, Durant's seven feet tall, so you know he can 26 00:01:10,480 --> 00:01:12,959 Speaker 2: still get his shot off. By the way, Lebron James 27 00:01:12,959 --> 00:01:15,880 Speaker 2: had Kevin Durant on his podcast and he talked about 28 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:18,759 Speaker 2: Kevin Durant every time he takes a shot. 29 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:21,520 Speaker 6: So if you guys in our league that you believe 30 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:25,960 Speaker 6: every time they shoot the balls going and Katie is 31 00:01:25,959 --> 00:01:29,040 Speaker 6: one of those guys, that's a lot of pressure. 32 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:33,640 Speaker 5: It is it is, it is. Listen, you shoot the ball. 33 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:36,160 Speaker 5: When Steph shoot the ball and Steph. 34 00:01:35,880 --> 00:01:38,200 Speaker 6: Get a look, you just you don't think it's going 35 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:39,319 Speaker 6: You don't think he's gonna miss. 36 00:01:40,080 --> 00:01:42,119 Speaker 2: Trying to think who else would be on that list. 37 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 2: I agree Katie and Steph when they shoot, I think 38 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:49,800 Speaker 2: it's going in. Is there somebody where you go? He's 39 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:50,480 Speaker 2: right in that. 40 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:53,840 Speaker 3: Category where it's weird when they miss. Yes, Yes, Paul Peek. 41 00:01:53,720 --> 00:01:55,520 Speaker 7: Ray Allen when he was spotted up at the end 42 00:01:55,560 --> 00:01:56,000 Speaker 7: of his career. 43 00:01:56,080 --> 00:01:58,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, but I mean now, oh, I'm sorry, Marvin. 44 00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:03,240 Speaker 8: Still, Klay Thompson, he's wide open cash Okay. 45 00:02:04,800 --> 00:02:07,000 Speaker 3: Yeah. 46 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:10,359 Speaker 2: Not many guys on that list. When they're open, when 47 00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:14,320 Speaker 2: they shoot, they make I always thought whenever Kareem shot 48 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:14,880 Speaker 2: the sky. 49 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:15,560 Speaker 3: Hook, it was going in. 50 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:20,840 Speaker 2: That That's probably the first guy that I can remember 51 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:22,239 Speaker 2: when he shot it was going in. 52 00:02:22,639 --> 00:02:22,839 Speaker 3: Yes. 53 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 8: Marmon mid range with Shay. 54 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 2: Nh Okay, I need a little larger sample size maybe 55 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:33,120 Speaker 2: on that. 56 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:36,000 Speaker 3: I mean, Katie's been doing this for a long long time. 57 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:38,280 Speaker 8: So you need people ten years plus. 58 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:40,760 Speaker 2: No, it doesn't have to be ten. But you don't 59 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:45,360 Speaker 2: give me a good seven years six seven years. But 60 00:02:45,400 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 2: you're right, I mean Shay, But Shay, his shots are 61 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:53,519 Speaker 2: contested from the standpoint of who's guarding him. Is probably 62 00:02:53,560 --> 00:02:57,120 Speaker 2: his size, maybe a little taller. Kevin Durant's seven feet tall. 63 00:02:57,720 --> 00:02:59,800 Speaker 2: They may list him at six'. Nine he's seven feet. 64 00:02:59,840 --> 00:03:02,920 Speaker 2: Tall if you see him next To. Lebron lebron's supposed 65 00:03:02,919 --> 00:03:04,960 Speaker 2: to be six' nine kd Seven. 66 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:09,240 Speaker 4: Feet Yes Does anthony edwards get into that list at? 67 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:13,280 Speaker 2: Some, point, HMM oh i guess, he CAN but i 68 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:18,080 Speaker 2: don't look him as a bucket. Like that he's pretty. 69 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:23,320 Speaker 2: Close though he nobody's Close TO Stephan. Kd open look 70 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:28,239 Speaker 2: those guys even CONTESTED. For kd he's scoring because it's 71 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:30,160 Speaker 2: rare if you're going to get a piece of. HIS 72 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:35,000 Speaker 2: shot I remember Anthony uh sion who was it just 73 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:40,040 Speaker 2: got Traded. From Portland does Simon's uh He blocked kd's shot? 74 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 2: One TIME and i remember seeing, the highlight it, WAS 75 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 2: like i gotta watch. That again but he blocked his 76 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:47,480 Speaker 2: shot maybe last year of the, year BEFORE and i 77 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:52,720 Speaker 2: was shocked like, a Jumper, LIKE dirk i don't you 78 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:55,120 Speaker 2: know he seven footer fading away. 79 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:57,160 Speaker 3: Really tough to block. That, Shot, yes paully it's a. 80 00:03:57,160 --> 00:03:59,640 Speaker 7: Different shot But When jalen brunson Of the knicks does 81 00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:01,880 Speaker 7: that little across into the middle and it's about ten 82 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:04,520 Speaker 7: eleven feet and he has an open eye on it 83 00:04:04,720 --> 00:04:07,040 Speaker 7: and it, Rims out, you're, like, oh yeah it's. 84 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:11,680 Speaker 3: A Surprise but Katie and steph are in a category all. 85 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:14,640 Speaker 2: TIME category i always Thought whenever bird had a wide, 86 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:17,440 Speaker 2: open shot it was. Going in i'd put him on that, 87 00:04:17,520 --> 00:04:20,719 Speaker 2: LIST too pauli Talked About ray allen. Wide, Open yes 88 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 2: i'd put him on that. List too anybody else you 89 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:30,880 Speaker 2: can Think of marv like, wide open where, you go that's. 90 00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:34,480 Speaker 2: A bucket now we're TALKING. About kd, you know somebody 91 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:37,800 Speaker 2: contesting him and it always feels like it's. 92 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:38,039 Speaker 3: Going, In. 93 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:40,280 Speaker 7: Yeah paul steph is the one, seed though when you 94 00:04:40,279 --> 00:04:42,440 Speaker 7: see him going around and it doesn't go in and the, 95 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:45,719 Speaker 7: crowd does, oh, Yeah, Yes marv. 96 00:04:45,760 --> 00:04:48,480 Speaker 8: And there's nothing worse than watching the, opposite uh the 97 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:51,080 Speaker 8: opposing coaches going how is? He OPEN. 98 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:55,360 Speaker 2: But i can go back to When the lakers Played 99 00:04:55,400 --> 00:05:00,200 Speaker 2: the Celtics and magic hits the sky Hook the celtics all. 100 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:03,040 Speaker 2: Time out they run a Play And james worthy is 101 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:06,920 Speaker 2: actually holding On To larry, bird's shirt, his jersey and 102 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:11,159 Speaker 2: He Loses larry bird in the Corner and larry can 103 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:14,479 Speaker 2: win the game from the corner and he misses, the 104 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:17,560 Speaker 2: shot and We Had james. Worthy on, he goes oh, 105 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:21,039 Speaker 2: MY god i can't BELIEVE that i lost him and 106 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:23,520 Speaker 2: he could have hit that shot from. The corner kind 107 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:27,120 Speaker 2: of rattles in. And out, all right we'll come up 108 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:30,360 Speaker 2: with the pole question for. Hour two, jermaine O'Neill Former, 109 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:33,280 Speaker 2: all star is going to. Join Us jim jackson stops by. 110 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:37,040 Speaker 2: As well joining us Now is, Brett McCormick Sports. Business 111 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:44,400 Speaker 2: journal he, covers stadiums, fan, experience ticketing he covers. It 112 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:47,000 Speaker 2: all and we were thinking about having, You, on Brett 113 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:50,640 Speaker 2: because i'm looking at What the cleveland What the browns 114 00:05:50,640 --> 00:05:54,719 Speaker 2: are doing moving to, the SUBURBS and i guess it's a, 115 00:05:54,760 --> 00:05:58,120 Speaker 2: dome STADIUM but i, was wondering when does the stadium 116 00:05:58,160 --> 00:05:59,560 Speaker 2: become obsolete in. 117 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:00,120 Speaker 3: Your eye. 118 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:04,520 Speaker 9: Great question and thanks for, Having me and as a 119 00:06:04,520 --> 00:06:08,440 Speaker 9: Long suffering, HORNETS fan i hope That kahn knoople joins. 120 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:10,880 Speaker 10: The list you were just. Talking about that is that 121 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 10: is the Prayer. 122 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:16,160 Speaker 9: In, charlotte, yeah no This is this is The topic 123 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:17,919 Speaker 9: i'm thinking about a lot right now because you have 124 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:21,520 Speaker 9: this cycle of stadiums that are coming up to the 125 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:22,400 Speaker 9: put up or shut. 126 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:22,919 Speaker 10: UP question. 127 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:27,000 Speaker 9: I guess so these stadiums built between nineteen ninety five 128 00:06:27,040 --> 00:06:30,360 Speaker 9: and two thousand, And five you've Got, Like, Jacksonville, Charlotte. 129 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:33,039 Speaker 9: HOUSTON denver, i mean there's probably a dozen. Of them 130 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:36,640 Speaker 9: and it's the kind of the critical juncture, of where, 131 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:41,120 Speaker 9: you know architecturally and, engineering wise you look at should 132 00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:42,919 Speaker 9: we renovate this or should we build a? 133 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:45,240 Speaker 10: New stadium and. 134 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:47,440 Speaker 9: YOU know i don't write about the, you know whether 135 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:50,000 Speaker 9: these should be financed, by who or whether it's a 136 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:52,760 Speaker 9: good investment, Or what but that is about the lifespan 137 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:56,120 Speaker 9: is twenty to twenty. Five years you're really studying should 138 00:06:56,120 --> 00:07:00,240 Speaker 9: we build a new stadium in a different location or 139 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:03,520 Speaker 9: should we renovate what? We've got and you've got all 140 00:07:03,560 --> 00:07:05,720 Speaker 9: of the above going on right now and a lot 141 00:07:05,760 --> 00:07:08,960 Speaker 9: of those decisions are dictated. By location, you know is 142 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:12,640 Speaker 9: it in the urban area or is it developable around it. 143 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:16,000 Speaker 2: Or whatever THAT'S why i Understand. The browns if you 144 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:19,280 Speaker 2: want to do a, DOME stadium i. Get that but 145 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 2: where that's located is great in my opinion having, been 146 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:27,920 Speaker 2: there and it feels like you could develop. AROUND that 147 00:07:28,040 --> 00:07:30,400 Speaker 2: i guess if. You want i've Been to foxboro Where the. 148 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:33,560 Speaker 2: PATRIOTS play i mean they try to set up, something, there, 149 00:07:33,720 --> 00:07:36,160 Speaker 2: like hey come Out. To foxboro will you Go to 150 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:39,120 Speaker 2: foxborough to See? The patriots you're not going to go to, 151 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:42,600 Speaker 2: You know Dave and buster's There, or applebee's bring the 152 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:44,160 Speaker 2: kids and let's go twenty miles. 153 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:44,680 Speaker 3: Or something. 154 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:49,400 Speaker 2: You Know the bears are moving out of downtown. As 155 00:07:49,440 --> 00:07:50,800 Speaker 2: well is that a dome stadium? 156 00:07:50,840 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 3: As well. 157 00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:53,560 Speaker 6: That's a. 158 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:56,000 Speaker 9: GOOD question i haven't seen the, design yet but so 159 00:07:56,120 --> 00:07:58,520 Speaker 9: what they're looking for. Is SPACE so i think With the, 160 00:07:58,560 --> 00:08:01,000 Speaker 9: CLEVELAND waterfront i think there is an issue that it's 161 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:03,320 Speaker 9: difficult to develop down there because of some roads and 162 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:05,920 Speaker 9: the way it's. Set up but you would think that in, 163 00:08:05,960 --> 00:08:09,440 Speaker 9: Both cases Chicago, and cleveland that the waterfront would be difficult. 164 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:11,320 Speaker 9: To BEAT but i think what they're looking for, is 165 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:13,680 Speaker 9: space and it kind of speaks to one of the 166 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:17,360 Speaker 9: trends that's happening. In sports venue designed right now more with, 167 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:20,240 Speaker 9: other sports, especially baseball where you've got people come into. 168 00:08:20,280 --> 00:08:23,000 Speaker 9: Eighty games it's a little different WITH, the nfl but 169 00:08:23,040 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 9: what they're trying to do is set up a stadium 170 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:29,080 Speaker 9: as a hub of a district where again you have, people, 171 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:33,120 Speaker 9: living working. And playing and that's what they're looking for. 172 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 9: Is space and so. 173 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:35,600 Speaker 10: It is kind OF. 174 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:40,240 Speaker 9: When i talk, about location the location for certain teams 175 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:43,400 Speaker 9: can be, you know in an urban setting downtown in 176 00:08:43,400 --> 00:08:45,360 Speaker 9: the midst, of everything and for other teams they may. 177 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:47,280 Speaker 9: Need space if you kind of think About, the braves, 178 00:08:47,600 --> 00:08:50,280 Speaker 9: You Know atlanta braves kind of started this second round 179 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:53,880 Speaker 9: of mixed. Use development they left a Downtown in atlanta 180 00:08:53,920 --> 00:08:56,320 Speaker 9: and moved out to the suburbs and created their Own 181 00:08:57,160 --> 00:09:01,880 Speaker 9: Like Stepford wives Village or Timpkinville of, braves baseball, and. 182 00:09:01,960 --> 00:09:03,640 Speaker 10: So, you know so teams have. 183 00:09:03,679 --> 00:09:06,120 Speaker 9: Seen that and and the thing with mixed use development 184 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:08,560 Speaker 9: is it's appealing to sports teams because they don't have to. 185 00:09:08,559 --> 00:09:10,520 Speaker 9: Share it it's not in the, revenue sharing so this 186 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:12,760 Speaker 9: is money that they keep and so that that has 187 00:09:12,760 --> 00:09:15,240 Speaker 9: been a big impetus for joining this kind. 188 00:09:15,280 --> 00:09:16,320 Speaker 10: Of development and you're. 189 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:20,800 Speaker 2: Talking About, the Bears, The Commanders, carolina Panthers, The Jaguars, 190 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:27,160 Speaker 2: calgary flames, you know renovation there For The, saddle Dome 191 00:09:27,960 --> 00:09:30,160 Speaker 2: the Royals And white sox might be on the list 192 00:09:30,160 --> 00:09:34,600 Speaker 2: there of doing the. Same thing it, feels like, you 193 00:09:34,640 --> 00:09:36,680 Speaker 2: know even when you look At The dallas Mavericks Where 194 00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:40,000 Speaker 2: mark Cuban said i'm not a real estate Guy and 195 00:09:40,080 --> 00:09:42,320 Speaker 2: i'm going to sell it to real estate people and 196 00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:45,920 Speaker 2: then tried to develop around the stadium and then bring in, 197 00:09:45,960 --> 00:09:50,120 Speaker 2: a casino it's that the blueprint for what we should expect, 198 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:51,200 Speaker 2: with all, you Know. 199 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:53,520 Speaker 3: Even wriglely wrigley's got its own sports. 200 00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:57,480 Speaker 9: Book, there yeah and it's it kind of speaks to, 201 00:09:57,880 --> 00:10:00,480 Speaker 9: you know and you watch the costs of these are are, 202 00:10:00,520 --> 00:10:03,360 Speaker 9: like skyrocketing and it's part part of it is because 203 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:04,440 Speaker 9: more is expected of. 204 00:10:04,520 --> 00:10:06,040 Speaker 10: Venues now, you know you used. 205 00:10:05,920 --> 00:10:09,520 Speaker 9: To have a lowerable, upper deck, you know maybe, some 206 00:10:09,559 --> 00:10:12,679 Speaker 9: suites and that has. REALLY shifted, i mean you've got 207 00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:16,640 Speaker 9: all kinds of seating products and different types of areas you, 208 00:10:16,640 --> 00:10:19,120 Speaker 9: can stand and there's different technologies that allow you to 209 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:22,640 Speaker 9: buy beer faster and. More often and so, you know, 210 00:10:22,679 --> 00:10:24,960 Speaker 9: from that from, that standpoint the experience has changed. A 211 00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:28,280 Speaker 9: bit what, people expect like how you get in is 212 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:31,600 Speaker 9: often easier than it used. To be and, so yeah 213 00:10:31,679 --> 00:10:34,400 Speaker 9: AND so i think what they have always thought about 214 00:10:34,480 --> 00:10:36,000 Speaker 9: is you get people to come early and you get 215 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:38,280 Speaker 9: people to. Say later, and again that's the money that 216 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:40,400 Speaker 9: you're generating that you don't have to share with the 217 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:45,000 Speaker 9: other thirty thirty one owners and that's become. Highly appealing 218 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:47,079 Speaker 9: as you, know this this whole thing has become. MORE 219 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:51,040 Speaker 9: competitive i think more of the sports ownership groups are 220 00:10:51,040 --> 00:10:54,200 Speaker 9: looking at these as businesses and less of like a whole, 221 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:56,280 Speaker 9: you know status play Thing that i'm going to hand 222 00:10:56,280 --> 00:10:59,120 Speaker 9: off to. My kids and so, you're saying like a 223 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:01,240 Speaker 9: lot of new ownership groups that are coming in with very, 224 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:04,360 Speaker 9: different ideas, You Know josh harris With the commanders and 225 00:11:04,360 --> 00:11:06,880 Speaker 9: Like the walton Family, with denver which is going to 226 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:08,400 Speaker 9: be added to. THIS list i think they've got a 227 00:11:08,440 --> 00:11:11,120 Speaker 9: project that is brewing. Out there so, you know. 228 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:12,480 Speaker 10: Kind of different ownership groups bringing. 229 00:11:12,520 --> 00:11:14,720 Speaker 9: Different ideas and then just the changes that have happened 230 00:11:14,720 --> 00:11:16,960 Speaker 9: with the stand experience over like twenty to thirty years 231 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:18,160 Speaker 9: are really influencing. 232 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:18,360 Speaker 5: These. 233 00:11:18,400 --> 00:11:21,800 Speaker 2: DESIGNS yeah i go Back To camden yards because they 234 00:11:21,880 --> 00:11:24,560 Speaker 2: moved it back into the city and you had the, 235 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:27,920 Speaker 2: waterfront there a, beautiful stadium we had the, warehouse there 236 00:11:29,240 --> 00:11:32,040 Speaker 2: Great FAN but i, don't know is that Becoming Obsolete 237 00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:36,040 Speaker 2: camden yards that are they going to want to do. 238 00:11:36,120 --> 00:11:37,280 Speaker 3: SOMETHING different. 239 00:11:38,600 --> 00:11:40,520 Speaker 10: I don't think, it's OBSOLETE but i think you could 240 00:11:40,559 --> 00:11:41,080 Speaker 10: see more. 241 00:11:41,280 --> 00:11:43,120 Speaker 9: Around it so if you think about what's across the 242 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:45,400 Speaker 9: parking LOT IS M Andt, bank stadium which is another 243 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:47,520 Speaker 9: one of these Where the, ravens played it's. Getting renovated 244 00:11:47,679 --> 00:11:50,000 Speaker 9: you've got like this massive parking lot in. Between that 245 00:11:50,120 --> 00:11:52,679 Speaker 9: and So if i'm a, Parking lot, i'm like, you 246 00:11:52,679 --> 00:11:54,920 Speaker 9: know you're in the crosshairs because it's the lowest, you 247 00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:56,880 Speaker 9: know it's the lowest possible use of land is to 248 00:11:57,120 --> 00:11:58,800 Speaker 9: is to park. On it and so and if you 249 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:00,760 Speaker 9: think About With camden YARDS an M And T, bank 250 00:12:00,840 --> 00:12:03,080 Speaker 9: stadium there's a train that runs right, by it, you 251 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:04,600 Speaker 9: know so if you can get people to use, the 252 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:07,760 Speaker 9: train you can use that parking lot for. SOMETHING else 253 00:12:08,679 --> 00:12:11,200 Speaker 9: i would watch a city field. With this, you know 254 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:15,240 Speaker 9: you've got a highly aggressive owner Who's, very uh he's 255 00:12:15,280 --> 00:12:18,600 Speaker 9: got some change and they've got, you know probably one 256 00:12:18,640 --> 00:12:21,240 Speaker 9: of the best public transit setups IN the us for, 257 00:12:21,320 --> 00:12:24,839 Speaker 9: public sports for, sports venues and you know he's trying 258 00:12:24,880 --> 00:12:27,520 Speaker 9: to build a casino and basically develop those. Parking LOTS 259 00:12:27,559 --> 00:12:31,560 Speaker 9: so i Think The camden yards thing is is the 260 00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:35,280 Speaker 9: aesthetic and like the vibes there are probably more popular, 261 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:37,800 Speaker 9: than ever but you just got to have something. Beyond 262 00:12:37,840 --> 00:12:40,320 Speaker 9: it now it kind of the stadium itself sort of 263 00:12:40,320 --> 00:12:42,640 Speaker 9: bleeds into this, next level, you know this. 264 00:12:42,760 --> 00:12:47,040 Speaker 2: Next layer what is the least modern stadium or the? 265 00:12:47,120 --> 00:12:54,240 Speaker 2: Worst stadium, Great QUESTION so i, would say so we 266 00:12:54,280 --> 00:12:54,880 Speaker 2: were just Talking About. 267 00:12:54,920 --> 00:12:57,880 Speaker 9: Camden Yards camden yards kind of sparked this like REVIVAL 268 00:12:57,960 --> 00:13:00,800 Speaker 9: of I don't i don't know the, architectural term but 269 00:13:00,880 --> 00:13:03,520 Speaker 9: maybe like neo classical or something. Like that the one 270 00:13:03,520 --> 00:13:05,960 Speaker 9: that was built right before THAT was i think it's 271 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:08,200 Speaker 9: Now Called rape field Where The white, sox play and 272 00:13:08,240 --> 00:13:11,400 Speaker 9: this is the last of the last stadium before all 273 00:13:11,440 --> 00:13:15,319 Speaker 9: the cool, Stadiums basically and so that's that's widely agreed 274 00:13:15,360 --> 00:13:18,040 Speaker 9: with one of the just they like, no personality it's 275 00:13:18,040 --> 00:13:19,040 Speaker 9: it's there's there's. 276 00:13:19,040 --> 00:13:20,880 Speaker 3: Not much there wasn't that cellular. 277 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:24,560 Speaker 9: Isn't it it's it was GUARANTEED great. 278 00:13:24,720 --> 00:13:28,000 Speaker 10: Us CELLULAR yeah i, Was, THERE. 279 00:13:28,679 --> 00:13:31,160 Speaker 2: Yeah i was there for the last Game at comiski 280 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:32,959 Speaker 2: and one of the first ones at. 281 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:37,200 Speaker 3: THE cell i. Remember that, YOU know i think charm is. 282 00:13:37,240 --> 00:13:39,280 Speaker 2: The word you're, probably like we want something that has 283 00:13:39,320 --> 00:13:42,679 Speaker 2: a little charm, to it a little nostalgia. As well 284 00:13:42,760 --> 00:13:45,040 Speaker 2: but what is the best Stadium? 285 00:13:45,160 --> 00:13:46,200 Speaker 5: In america. 286 00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:50,079 Speaker 10: Great questions like, actually modern. 287 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:52,319 Speaker 3: Modern state let. 288 00:13:52,120 --> 00:13:53,120 Speaker 10: Me add one more to the. 289 00:13:53,120 --> 00:13:56,040 Speaker 9: Worst ones everybody's excited to see what happens WITH the 290 00:13:56,160 --> 00:14:00,120 Speaker 9: RFK because I Think FedExField night or or whatever it's, 291 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:03,959 Speaker 9: Called Now northwest Mutual Something northwest stadium is. Widely agreed 292 00:14:03,960 --> 00:14:06,679 Speaker 9: it's probably the worst STADIUM in, us sports and in 293 00:14:06,760 --> 00:14:08,800 Speaker 9: a location it's out in the middle, of nowhere is nothing. 294 00:14:08,840 --> 00:14:10,240 Speaker 5: Around it, you. 295 00:14:10,160 --> 00:14:13,199 Speaker 9: Know you literally had sewage fall, on people railings, fall 296 00:14:13,280 --> 00:14:15,520 Speaker 9: over they. Got SUED so i think everybody is stoke 297 00:14:15,559 --> 00:14:19,440 Speaker 9: to see what happens with with them AND potentially rfk the. 298 00:14:19,440 --> 00:14:23,040 Speaker 9: Best stadium this is a, great question and it's probably 299 00:14:23,080 --> 00:14:25,280 Speaker 9: like a. Bit objective it kind of depends sports, a 300 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:26,000 Speaker 9: sport it's going to. 301 00:14:26,040 --> 00:14:28,000 Speaker 5: Be DIFFERENT but I. 302 00:14:28,040 --> 00:14:32,360 Speaker 9: Think i really love the mid city kind of older. 303 00:14:32,400 --> 00:14:35,240 Speaker 9: STYLE ballparks i think. EVERYBODY does i would EVEN say 304 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:38,920 Speaker 9: i would even Say The pittsburgh pirates have a, pretty 305 00:14:38,920 --> 00:14:42,000 Speaker 9: strong pretty, strong case which has always cracked, me up 306 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:44,760 Speaker 9: because if you had promotion and Relegation In Major, league baseball, 307 00:14:44,800 --> 00:14:46,760 Speaker 9: you know they'd probably they'd probably be A single a team. 308 00:14:46,760 --> 00:14:49,200 Speaker 9: By now but because because they don't, get relegated they've 309 00:14:49,200 --> 00:14:52,880 Speaker 9: invested in their ballpark and, it's Beautiful The candy yards 310 00:14:52,960 --> 00:14:54,640 Speaker 9: is it's definitely. UP there, i mean they're about to 311 00:14:54,640 --> 00:14:57,160 Speaker 9: do a major renovation, on it which will. Modernize IT 312 00:14:57,520 --> 00:14:58,920 Speaker 9: but i, don't think, YOU know i don't THINK that's 313 00:14:59,000 --> 00:15:00,280 Speaker 9: i don't think they're going to touch it any of 314 00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:03,280 Speaker 9: the kind of mystique, of it, YOU know. 315 00:15:03,360 --> 00:15:04,400 Speaker 10: I don't i. 316 00:15:04,320 --> 00:15:07,880 Speaker 9: Don't Overly love Benway and wrigley because they're they're really really, 317 00:15:07,920 --> 00:15:10,520 Speaker 9: old like so they are, very cramped and, you know 318 00:15:10,600 --> 00:15:13,120 Speaker 9: and in terms of somebody who, visits stadiums. 319 00:15:13,160 --> 00:15:14,840 Speaker 10: You know it's not it's not like a great it's 320 00:15:14,840 --> 00:15:15,760 Speaker 10: not a. Great, time. 321 00:15:17,080 --> 00:15:19,400 Speaker 9: Yeah that's that's a. GREAT question i Really. Like pittsburgh 322 00:15:19,760 --> 00:15:22,080 Speaker 9: it's a great it's a. Great, ballpark brett thanks for. 323 00:15:22,160 --> 00:15:23,720 Speaker 3: Joining us we. Appreciate, it yeah. 324 00:15:23,720 --> 00:15:25,120 Speaker 10: It's fun thanks for, having me, All right. 325 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:26,640 Speaker 3: Brett McCormick Sports. 326 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:29,560 Speaker 2: Business journal now you start to look at, THESE stadiums, 327 00:15:29,600 --> 00:15:32,760 Speaker 2: i mean it's it's incredible the number of stadiums that 328 00:15:33,120 --> 00:15:36,320 Speaker 2: are being built. Or renovated and you go back To 329 00:15:36,400 --> 00:15:40,360 Speaker 2: What stan cronk Did In, los angeles even With The Golden, State, 330 00:15:40,400 --> 00:15:42,840 Speaker 2: warriors like you want to have something and then you 331 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:46,040 Speaker 2: want apartments. Around it you you want to have things. 332 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:48,800 Speaker 2: Around it and it helps when you have a basketball 333 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:51,320 Speaker 2: or a, baseball team certainly a, Baseball team so you 334 00:15:51,360 --> 00:15:54,080 Speaker 2: get eighty one, days there maybe you get the postseason, 335 00:15:54,160 --> 00:15:56,440 Speaker 2: in there but then the other days you want to 336 00:15:56,440 --> 00:15:57,480 Speaker 2: be able to get concerts. 337 00:15:57,520 --> 00:15:58,800 Speaker 3: In there you want events. 338 00:15:58,840 --> 00:16:02,600 Speaker 2: In there if you're GOT an, nfl stadium THAT'S where 339 00:16:02,640 --> 00:16:05,000 Speaker 2: i understand that you're gonna want. A dome And if 340 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:08,120 Speaker 2: cleveland wants to, move OUT although i love, that location. 341 00:16:09,440 --> 00:16:11,840 Speaker 3: Can't you put a dome on? That STADIUM. 342 00:16:12,800 --> 00:16:17,400 Speaker 2: And i think most financial experts will say the people 343 00:16:17,400 --> 00:16:21,440 Speaker 2: who benefit from this are. The owners it's not like 344 00:16:21,680 --> 00:16:25,120 Speaker 2: cities do the real estate people and the owners usually 345 00:16:25,120 --> 00:16:28,040 Speaker 2: do well. With this, it's, like hey this is gonna, 346 00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:30,560 Speaker 2: provide job this is gonna mean and This. 347 00:16:30,520 --> 00:16:33,239 Speaker 3: Is, i'm, like, Okay. 348 00:16:36,520 --> 00:16:38,920 Speaker 4: Okay so what we're gonna do is take this teams 349 00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:40,880 Speaker 4: out of the city and then build a new stadium 350 00:16:40,880 --> 00:16:42,760 Speaker 4: to build a city around the new stadium that we 351 00:16:42,800 --> 00:16:43,200 Speaker 4: took out of. 352 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:45,880 Speaker 3: The, CITY yeah i. 353 00:16:45,880 --> 00:16:47,440 Speaker 2: DON'T agree i don't KNOW if i want to go 354 00:16:47,480 --> 00:16:50,960 Speaker 2: to the SUBURBS where. I, go hey, come, on kids 355 00:16:50,960 --> 00:16:53,680 Speaker 2: we're going to the suburbs that you're going to go 356 00:16:53,720 --> 00:16:56,160 Speaker 2: out there to a restaurant in the suburbs if you 357 00:16:56,240 --> 00:16:57,880 Speaker 2: live twenty, miles away. 358 00:16:57,600 --> 00:17:01,000 Speaker 4: They're typically not You Know michelin star restaurants that they 359 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:01,440 Speaker 4: put around. 360 00:17:01,480 --> 00:17:04,520 Speaker 2: These, Things, Yeah Hey gordon ramsey opened up a new. 361 00:17:05,320 --> 00:17:06,600 Speaker 2: Restaurant here, let's. 362 00:17:06,640 --> 00:17:10,840 Speaker 3: Go, kid yeah it's Called. A plebe's oh, all right 363 00:17:10,920 --> 00:17:12,960 Speaker 3: we'll get phone calls. 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Trail, blazers jermaine good 391 00:18:24,560 --> 00:18:27,320 Speaker 2: to catch up with. You again take me back to that. 392 00:18:27,720 --> 00:18:30,600 Speaker 2: Draft night what were you seventeen years of age? Back, 393 00:18:30,640 --> 00:18:32,679 Speaker 2: THEN yeah i. 394 00:18:32,720 --> 00:18:35,280 Speaker 6: Was seventeen first, Of, ALL dan i appreciate you having, 395 00:18:35,280 --> 00:18:36,800 Speaker 6: me BACK so i was good to see and talk. 396 00:18:36,840 --> 00:18:39,600 Speaker 5: To you but it was a pretty. 397 00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:43,400 Speaker 6: Amazing, night obviously back then the rules were a lot different. 398 00:18:43,640 --> 00:18:45,879 Speaker 6: From perspective once you made, yourself eligible it was no 399 00:18:46,320 --> 00:18:48,879 Speaker 6: time period where you can go through the. Draft process, it, 400 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:51,840 Speaker 6: was hey, you commit you make yourself eligible for. 401 00:18:51,960 --> 00:18:53,399 Speaker 5: The draft, you know you for feed your. 402 00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:57,359 Speaker 6: College eligibility and it was nerve wracking obviously as a 403 00:18:57,400 --> 00:19:00,320 Speaker 6: seventeen year old and not really knowing what the. Process 404 00:19:00,520 --> 00:19:03,040 Speaker 6: IS but i was truly blessed to have a guy 405 00:19:03,119 --> 00:19:05,800 Speaker 6: In marn tellham who was my agent And UH. Son, 406 00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:07,840 Speaker 6: p carrol, you know who went through the process with 407 00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:10,280 Speaker 6: me and helped educate educate me about the, you know 408 00:19:10,600 --> 00:19:11,800 Speaker 6: the PROCESS that i was about to. 409 00:19:11,800 --> 00:19:14,200 Speaker 3: Go, into okay but seventeen on, the, road. 410 00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:20,480 Speaker 5: Right, SO listen i got to. Say this, you Know. 411 00:19:22,480 --> 00:19:26,320 Speaker 6: The Portland trail blazers did an amazing job on being 412 00:19:26,359 --> 00:19:29,119 Speaker 6: prepared for a seventeen year old and all of. My 413 00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:32,439 Speaker 6: teammates they made SURE that i they did things with 414 00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:34,800 Speaker 6: me on the road that you know that made sense 415 00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:37,520 Speaker 6: for my age and and they were prepared for me to. 416 00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:39,440 Speaker 3: Get there how did they? 417 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:41,920 Speaker 2: Prepare you because there's a lot of things that can 418 00:19:41,960 --> 00:19:44,720 Speaker 2: go wrong on, the road no matter, how old you. 419 00:19:44,680 --> 00:19:47,600 Speaker 6: Are one, hundred PERCENT though i think a lot of It, 420 00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:50,760 Speaker 6: IS honestly i stuck with the core values of how 421 00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:54,200 Speaker 6: my mother, raised me making SURE that i understood what 422 00:19:54,240 --> 00:19:56,320 Speaker 6: my purpose WAS when i. Got, THERE obviously i knew 423 00:19:56,320 --> 00:19:58,879 Speaker 6: the task of trying to become a professional athlete and 424 00:19:58,920 --> 00:20:02,080 Speaker 6: a good professional athlete in basketball was, very difficult, you 425 00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:05,280 Speaker 6: know because of that big age gap. And transition but, 426 00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:08,159 Speaker 6: you know my focus was, you know, you know always 427 00:20:08,160 --> 00:20:10,000 Speaker 6: proved not only to the people that were SAYING that 428 00:20:10,040 --> 00:20:12,040 Speaker 6: i wasn't a great draft pick at, the time but, 429 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:13,520 Speaker 6: you know for myself most IMPORTANTLY that. 430 00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:13,960 Speaker 5: I KNEW what. 431 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:18,840 Speaker 2: I Was cooper flag's going in that, same age that 432 00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:21,720 Speaker 2: same Age. As lebron what advice would you? 433 00:20:21,760 --> 00:20:21,879 Speaker 8: Give? 434 00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:25,520 Speaker 6: Him man just, you know obviously things a lot different 435 00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:28,200 Speaker 6: now from a perspective of social, social media and we're 436 00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:30,240 Speaker 6: seeing this impact on how social makes. 437 00:20:30,280 --> 00:20:32,960 Speaker 5: People feel he has to be able to give hisself 438 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:33,560 Speaker 5: some grace. 439 00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:35,359 Speaker 6: As well, YOU know i was just a lot of 440 00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:38,960 Speaker 6: pressure being the number, one pick going to a situation that, 441 00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:41,760 Speaker 6: you know he lost another really, good player so people 442 00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:43,120 Speaker 6: are expecting him to come in and feel. 443 00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:45,720 Speaker 5: A void he needs to really just focus on what 444 00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:46,760 Speaker 5: he can do. 445 00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:49,840 Speaker 6: In his development and give itself grace over a period 446 00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:52,920 Speaker 6: of time that he has to understand the transition from 447 00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:53,399 Speaker 6: college TO. 448 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:58,119 Speaker 3: The nba you Coached Against, COOPER flag, i did you 449 00:20:58,119 --> 00:20:58,480 Speaker 3: know quite. 450 00:20:58,520 --> 00:21:01,160 Speaker 6: A bit, you know he's he was in my sons 451 00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:03,960 Speaker 6: that originally the twenty twenty, five class and then he. 452 00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:08,800 Speaker 6: RECLASSED up i think it's after his. Junior Year but 453 00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:12,359 Speaker 6: i've been Coaching, against cooper, you know since seventh. 454 00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:15,520 Speaker 3: Eighth grade and what did? You see when did you? 455 00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:15,879 Speaker 3: See it? 456 00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:18,960 Speaker 5: You know the first thing that jumped out to me. 457 00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:21,600 Speaker 6: Right away used to WEAR these i Called The patrick 458 00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:23,679 Speaker 6: ewing knee pass all. 459 00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:25,560 Speaker 5: The time and he was. A kid i, was like 460 00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:26,200 Speaker 5: why why is? 461 00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:28,240 Speaker 3: This kid. 462 00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:29,480 Speaker 5: But his? 463 00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:32,960 Speaker 6: Talent level he always had, ball skills, you know bring the, 464 00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:35,280 Speaker 6: ball up, you know beat people off. The dribble he's. 465 00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:38,200 Speaker 6: Always athletic. You know the THING that i Loved, about 466 00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:40,840 Speaker 6: COOPER and i, told him listen To LAST nike YbO 467 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:44,000 Speaker 6: game that you KNOW that i coached, against, him men 468 00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:47,840 Speaker 6: is that he approached the game the. Right way he's never, 469 00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:51,600 Speaker 6: sped up he's never shot. Chasing right he can impact. 470 00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:53,560 Speaker 6: The GAME but i didn't even have the ball in. 471 00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:56,080 Speaker 6: His hand how, you know, he defends how he, blocks 472 00:21:56,080 --> 00:21:58,439 Speaker 6: shots how, he rebounds how he communicates. 473 00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:00,880 Speaker 5: His Team so i'm deaf and looking for great things 474 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:01,840 Speaker 5: for his kid in. 475 00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:04,840 Speaker 2: His Career but carmelo came out on A podcast i 476 00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:07,040 Speaker 2: think he might have Been With, paul george and he 477 00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:09,800 Speaker 2: Said that cooper doesn't have, the bag like he doesn't 478 00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:12,359 Speaker 2: have that. Signature MOVE and, i said but he does. 479 00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:16,760 Speaker 2: EVERYTHING else, i mean, he's seventeen eighteen years. OF age 480 00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:20,000 Speaker 2: i don't expect him to have that signature move. Right 481 00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:25,199 Speaker 2: away did you see like he can always be a, 482 00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:29,159 Speaker 2: better shooter, deeper shooter but it feels like he can go, 483 00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:32,119 Speaker 2: inside out doesn't mind contact those kind. Of things, but 484 00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:36,480 Speaker 2: offensively what would you suggest he needs to work on? 485 00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:41,159 Speaker 6: The shooting OBVIOUSLY the nba is about, shooting now so the. 486 00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:43,400 Speaker 6: Consistent shooting obviously the three point line is a little 487 00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:46,880 Speaker 6: bit deeper than. The COLLEGE but i would Agree. With, Carmelo, 488 00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:49,760 Speaker 6: carmelo actually You Know KYENE is i was in that, 489 00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:51,560 Speaker 6: same class so, you know we've been seeing each Other 490 00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:54,800 Speaker 6: the joe for a very. Long time but, from perspective 491 00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:57,240 Speaker 6: it's important that he understands that he doesn't have to 492 00:22:57,280 --> 00:22:57,960 Speaker 6: be anybody else. 493 00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:00,600 Speaker 5: But, Himself right he's Like a swiss, army. 494 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:02,520 Speaker 6: Knife right he has so many different things that he 495 00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:05,240 Speaker 6: can bring to the table and he just needs to focus. 496 00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:08,240 Speaker 6: On that, you know he doesn't have a, flashy bag 497 00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:09,680 Speaker 6: but his flashes. 498 00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:13,240 Speaker 2: His impact i'm Talking to, jermaine, O'Neil head Coach Of 499 00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:17,560 Speaker 2: Dynamic prep Academy, In irving texas and spend eighteen seasons IN. 500 00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:18,760 Speaker 3: The nba do you have. 501 00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:21,879 Speaker 2: A theory on why we've Seen these? Achilles tears. 502 00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:25,560 Speaker 5: That's interesting we've been talking to talking a lot. 503 00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:27,280 Speaker 6: ABOUT this, i think, you know one of the things 504 00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:30,199 Speaker 6: that people, talk about, you know, the pace and the 505 00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:33,560 Speaker 6: pace is. REALLY fast i think, from perspective, you know 506 00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:37,080 Speaker 6: the days, of practicing, you know like. Really practicing, you 507 00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:39,280 Speaker 6: know they don't practice, as, much right they have, more 508 00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:42,479 Speaker 6: downtime and when you look at, the pace you know 509 00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:45,600 Speaker 6: of how fast, they're PLAYING and i don't know if 510 00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:48,040 Speaker 6: the body's as conditioned to play at. 511 00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:49,720 Speaker 5: That pace so they have a lot of, rest days 512 00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:51,320 Speaker 5: not a lot of. 513 00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:54,159 Speaker 6: Contact days and so from a perspective, of like, you 514 00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:57,439 Speaker 6: know being able to be conditioned for that quick twitch 515 00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:00,439 Speaker 6: to change, your possession, you know that is SOMETHING that 516 00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:02,480 Speaker 6: i think has has a lot to do. 517 00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:06,760 Speaker 2: With it your kids ask about who you played against 518 00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:09,879 Speaker 2: or you're welcome TO the? Nba moment Did they they 519 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:13,040 Speaker 2: want to know what was it like guarding or being? 520 00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:16,160 Speaker 2: Guarded by who's? The player of players they, ASK about 521 00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:17,880 Speaker 2: i don't. 522 00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:21,280 Speaker 6: Think the kids Really ask they always ask about how was? 523 00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:23,480 Speaker 6: It right it's always the question of how was it 524 00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:25,399 Speaker 6: to play in, The league and, you know how was 525 00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:28,200 Speaker 6: to play against, you know Guys like Shaq and kobe 526 00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:31,679 Speaker 6: and And was Lebron And. Michael jordan i've been able 527 00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:32,600 Speaker 6: to play against, you know all. 528 00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:34,960 Speaker 3: Of them but what was your welcome TO the? Nba 529 00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:41,840 Speaker 3: moment Mm Hmm keema lodge One, in houston, and uh 530 00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:42,560 Speaker 3: that was not. 531 00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:43,760 Speaker 5: A great matchup. For me. 532 00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:47,879 Speaker 3: It wasn't a great matchup for a lot of guys Your, 533 00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:49,240 Speaker 3: main yeah. 534 00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:51,600 Speaker 6: You know and it's, So, FUNNY dan i don't think 535 00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:55,040 Speaker 6: people talk enough about a king Like the king is literally. 536 00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:58,520 Speaker 5: He was he had, the footwork he had, the moves, 537 00:24:58,960 --> 00:24:59,400 Speaker 5: you know he. 538 00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:02,680 Speaker 6: Had the I'M shot i mean obviously he's all time, 539 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:06,040 Speaker 6: shot blocking, you know leader you know IN. THE nba 540 00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:08,520 Speaker 6: i mean he just impacted the game and so many 541 00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:11,080 Speaker 6: times and. Many times, you know people don't give him 542 00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:12,760 Speaker 6: a lot of credit, to us but he was fasting 543 00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:15,040 Speaker 6: a lot in his career and it's hard to do 544 00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:17,760 Speaker 6: and play at, that level, you know not being able to. 545 00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:19,840 Speaker 5: Eat, before games eating through, you know eat through a period. 546 00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:23,159 Speaker 2: Of, TIME yeah i think, he's underrated like because we 547 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:25,520 Speaker 2: look at the big man and then it's old by the, 548 00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:28,840 Speaker 2: oh yeah then A chem. Elijah on but, you know, 549 00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:31,760 Speaker 2: HIS footwork i think soccer really. HELPED him i thought 550 00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:34,359 Speaker 2: his footwork was impeccable for a. 551 00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:36,720 Speaker 3: Big man he's just dance. 552 00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:39,159 Speaker 6: With people and, YOU know i remember killing in the 553 00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:41,159 Speaker 6: GAME and i try to give him all of, my 554 00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:45,399 Speaker 6: files right and it was wasn't in the game to 555 00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:46,800 Speaker 6: sub somebody else in. 556 00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:50,399 Speaker 5: Foul trouble it's eighteen. Years old. It was it. Was 557 00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:52,160 Speaker 5: ridiculous but, you know he's a GUY that. 558 00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:55,199 Speaker 6: I always liked to watch because he was almost impossible. 559 00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:57,240 Speaker 6: To guard, you know he can hit you, with anything 560 00:25:57,280 --> 00:25:58,960 Speaker 6: and he was like. A ballerina i think he just 561 00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:00,199 Speaker 6: danced with you at. 562 00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:03,960 Speaker 3: All times, jordan's uh take advantage. 563 00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:06,680 Speaker 5: Of You now i've had a chance to. 564 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:13,320 Speaker 6: Guard Him but Jordan is people always have this conversation about, 565 00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:15,919 Speaker 6: you know. The greatest and first, Of all i'm, you 566 00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:17,760 Speaker 6: know these are these guys are, all great, you know 567 00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:20,960 Speaker 6: within their own, you know their own uh you, Know 568 00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:24,600 Speaker 6: Games but jordan himself had a DIFFERENT or i remember 569 00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:26,879 Speaker 6: being In An all star game and obviously you've been 570 00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:28,800 Speaker 6: in the locker room and, it's like, you know everybody's 571 00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:31,159 Speaker 6: his best players in, the, world right and we, consider ourselves, 572 00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:34,200 Speaker 6: you know so the best you know IN. The Nba 573 00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:37,160 Speaker 6: and jordan's always come in a little, bit, Late right he's, 574 00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:39,800 Speaker 6: a lad but you can hear. Him coming AND what 575 00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:41,840 Speaker 6: i mean, by that you hear it's kind of like 576 00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:44,520 Speaker 6: the noise and then you hit the cameras and then 577 00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:47,280 Speaker 6: he walks into the locker room and everybody just stopped 578 00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:49,000 Speaker 6: talking and just he just walks by and he'll be. 579 00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:52,560 Speaker 6: Just looking he was almost like, a god, you know to, 580 00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:54,600 Speaker 6: be honest and, you know he's done so. 581 00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:54,960 Speaker 5: Much for, the. 582 00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:57,639 Speaker 6: Game MAN but i think his impact generationally has just 583 00:26:57,680 --> 00:26:59,320 Speaker 6: been something that we, hadn't seen you. 584 00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:01,960 Speaker 3: Know Before did kobe have? THAT too. 585 00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:05,240 Speaker 6: I think kobe, had it, YOU know i think, you 586 00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:07,440 Speaker 6: Know obviously lebron has it, as well but they don't. 587 00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:12,000 Speaker 5: Have it was like it's like great AND is a 588 00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:13,679 Speaker 5: AND then B. 589 00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:16,320 Speaker 6: And c you Know what i'm saying from a perspective 590 00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:19,480 Speaker 6: of like how we, as players, you know when we, see, 591 00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:21,600 Speaker 6: him right, YOU know i grew Up, with kobe so, 592 00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:23,600 Speaker 6: you know we're in the same high, school CLASS so 593 00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:24,919 Speaker 6: i didn't necessarily. 594 00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:25,040 Speaker 5: Look at him. 595 00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:29,360 Speaker 6: That way, You Know michael jordan is the one, THAT really, 596 00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:32,399 Speaker 6: i think, you know really TOOK the, nba to, you 597 00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:32,920 Speaker 6: know the. 598 00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:34,080 Speaker 5: Next level, you know with. 599 00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:36,560 Speaker 3: His starting mike has a mystery. 600 00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:39,760 Speaker 2: About him, you know there's not a Mystery, with lebron 601 00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:41,920 Speaker 2: maybe not a Mystery. 602 00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:44,880 Speaker 3: With kobe What was kobe like though you faced him? 603 00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:49,960 Speaker 6: In, camps, Yeah yeah we've been facing each other since we. 604 00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:55,359 Speaker 6: Were Thirteen and kobe was always dedicated. To basketball AND 605 00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:58,240 Speaker 6: what i mean by that is like he he literally 606 00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:01,359 Speaker 6: didn't carried around a Lot Of michael, Jordan taates like 607 00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:04,399 Speaker 6: he would not do the typical things that we would do. 608 00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:06,919 Speaker 6: At camps he wouldn't really hang. Out much he was, 609 00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:10,560 Speaker 6: always studying. Always STUDYING so i wasn't surprised to see 610 00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:13,280 Speaker 6: the type of career that he had because he wanted 611 00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:15,760 Speaker 6: to sacrifice other things just to make sure he was 612 00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:17,040 Speaker 6: considered one of the graces. 613 00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:20,639 Speaker 2: EVER play i remember Talking To rick fox some Of 614 00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:25,960 Speaker 2: the lakers and they were out at a BAR and, 615 00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:30,560 Speaker 2: i Said where's Kobe And. Derek fisher, they LAUGHED and, 616 00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:33,280 Speaker 2: i go why? You're laughing, they go he didn't. Go 617 00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:38,680 Speaker 2: out he stays in. His room, i'm, Like, okay, SO. 618 00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:41,640 Speaker 5: Yeah i, THINK then i think that was the. 619 00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:43,480 Speaker 6: Biggest thing like early in, his career you heard a 620 00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:46,840 Speaker 6: lot of noise about he wasn't a, great, TEAMMATE right, 621 00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:49,360 Speaker 6: i mean people didn't know a lot about him on his, 622 00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:52,040 Speaker 6: own TEAM and i think some of that was. 623 00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:55,400 Speaker 5: That was his, genetic. 624 00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:58,840 Speaker 6: Makeup right he was, always, Studying right he's, always preparing, 625 00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:02,520 Speaker 6: and yeah to, a point it was almost too, you 626 00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:05,080 Speaker 6: know a default when it came to how people perceive 627 00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:07,080 Speaker 6: his own teammates proceeding because, they didn't, you know get 628 00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:08,719 Speaker 6: a chance to hang out. With them and that's one 629 00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:10,360 Speaker 6: of the things that we always do on. The team 630 00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:12,880 Speaker 6: we are always around. Each other and if you don't see, 631 00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:15,120 Speaker 6: your teammate then you your, mindset, is hey he doesn't 632 00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:16,760 Speaker 6: want to be, around us or you know. 633 00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:19,160 Speaker 5: Something else but he was always studying. 634 00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:23,640 Speaker 2: And Preparing This dame lillard situation is really interesting. For 635 00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:25,640 Speaker 2: Me the bucks are going to pay him one hundred 636 00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:29,920 Speaker 2: million dollars to, Not play he's going, To rehab he's 637 00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:33,040 Speaker 2: going to be. THIRTY six i think it's, a huge 638 00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:36,560 Speaker 2: huge Opportunity For dame lillard in a team that will 639 00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:40,720 Speaker 2: get him next spring when he's healthy and could be 640 00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:44,080 Speaker 2: helping a team in. The playoffs your thoughts on What 641 00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:48,360 Speaker 2: the bucks Did And dame, Lillard's, future, Well one i'm. 642 00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:49,840 Speaker 5: Not surprised you know about the. 643 00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:53,320 Speaker 6: Business now Obviously the apron tax your threshold now is in, 644 00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:55,720 Speaker 6: full effect so teams are trying to figure out ways 645 00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:59,000 Speaker 6: to maneuver. Around that so things like this is probably 646 00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:00,800 Speaker 6: this is probably not gonna be, you know last time 647 00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:02,960 Speaker 6: we see something. Like this but From A dame, LILLARD 648 00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:07,520 Speaker 6: perspective i think he now has a true opportunity to 649 00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:10,920 Speaker 6: win a championship now because now he gets you just 650 00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:13,200 Speaker 6: have To have he doesn't have to rush back to 651 00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:16,520 Speaker 6: figure out free agency or, you know whatever it. May 652 00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:19,640 Speaker 6: be he can really take his time and really evaluate, 653 00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:23,840 Speaker 6: each roster evaluate his. Best fit and, you know for 654 00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:26,160 Speaker 6: a player that gets a chance to basically sit out a. 655 00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:27,920 Speaker 5: Year, AND prepare i mean that's an. 656 00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:30,440 Speaker 6: Amazing opportunity and by the way still get paid over 657 00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:32,520 Speaker 6: the next five years twenty plus million dollars from a 658 00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:33,120 Speaker 6: team that you don't. 659 00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:36,160 Speaker 3: Play for did people think you were Related? To, shank 660 00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:38,400 Speaker 3: yeah all. 661 00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:40,640 Speaker 6: The time it's funny because Me and shack have family Members, 662 00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:42,800 Speaker 6: in southron so we did talk a little bit. 663 00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:45,520 Speaker 5: About IT but i get that question all. 664 00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:50,240 Speaker 3: The time what was it like to? Guard him? 665 00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:54,200 Speaker 6: Very difficult, YOU know i Really believe shaq is he's 666 00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:59,840 Speaker 6: a special. Human, being obviously he's, a giant, incredibly strong, 667 00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:02,720 Speaker 6: very kind HARD and i think even to, a point 668 00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:05,200 Speaker 6: is as dominant as he as he was in his 669 00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:07,360 Speaker 6: career and probably one of the most maybe the most 670 00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:10,680 Speaker 6: dominant player at that position we've. Ever seen, you know 671 00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:13,480 Speaker 6: he really cared, about people and sometimes he will pull 672 00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:15,240 Speaker 6: up a little bit if he liked you in, the 673 00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:16,720 Speaker 6: game and, you know. 674 00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:20,600 Speaker 3: He's just what do, you mean how would you he 675 00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:21,240 Speaker 3: wasn't taken? 676 00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:24,800 Speaker 5: To, you well, he will you, could tell like, he 677 00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:25,240 Speaker 5: will he. 678 00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:27,760 Speaker 6: Won't like it's certain players that you knew he, didn't, 679 00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:30,640 Speaker 6: Like right and you can tell from start, to, Finish 680 00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:31,880 Speaker 6: right and then you get. 681 00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:33,520 Speaker 5: In games sometimes you see him talking and. 682 00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:36,480 Speaker 6: Laughing with the guys that he's competing AGAINST and i 683 00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:38,240 Speaker 6: think some of it was to respect for, other people 684 00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:39,440 Speaker 6: but also to, You. 685 00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:41,920 Speaker 5: KNOW shaq I think shock understood just how strong. 686 00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:44,800 Speaker 6: He was i've never ever seen or played against a person, 687 00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:50,160 Speaker 6: that size that nimble and. That, strong uh and he 688 00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:53,680 Speaker 6: could really probably just, you know people wouldn't grabbing him all. 689 00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:55,400 Speaker 5: The time, you know he had, great. 690 00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:58,080 Speaker 6: Composure but he could have really just dominated people if 691 00:31:58,120 --> 00:31:59,200 Speaker 6: he really wanted to just. 692 00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:03,680 Speaker 2: Destroy Everybody the pacers, moving forward it almost feels like 693 00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:06,640 Speaker 2: they might be taking this next year Off with haliburton 694 00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:08,360 Speaker 2: Hurt And miles turner goes to. 695 00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:10,520 Speaker 3: The box what do? 696 00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:15,680 Speaker 2: You think, you know You, got celtics, They're Damaged the 697 00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:17,640 Speaker 2: knicks are going to, be There the cabs are going to. 698 00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:19,560 Speaker 3: Be there seventy six ers. 699 00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:22,240 Speaker 2: Aren't MUCH but, i Mean the pacers were a feel 700 00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:25,320 Speaker 2: good story and then all of, a sudden now You're 701 00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:28,520 Speaker 2: without haliburton and you're going to Be Without. 702 00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:29,520 Speaker 3: Miles, turner. 703 00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:34,080 Speaker 5: Yeah it's one of those things in really. 704 00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:38,880 Speaker 6: Pro sports but, you KNOW you i was rooting For 705 00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:40,920 Speaker 6: the pacers to, win IT and i thought that they 706 00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:42,560 Speaker 6: could win it if it wasn't for. 707 00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:43,320 Speaker 5: That injury but. 708 00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:47,960 Speaker 6: Like you, Never know like in, this business you have 709 00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:50,120 Speaker 6: to almost be all in you know in the year 710 00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:51,840 Speaker 6: that you can you can you know you can, get 711 00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:54,280 Speaker 6: there because things like an injury or, you know or 712 00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:57,160 Speaker 6: a coaching change or a key player going to a, 713 00:32:57,200 --> 00:33:00,160 Speaker 6: different team it derails it and it doesn't really guarante he, 714 00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:02,640 Speaker 6: you know you you'll get. Back there, you know hell 715 00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:04,880 Speaker 6: That was it took twenty five years to get to that. 716 00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:10,920 Speaker 6: Point AGAIN so i do believe that it's an opportunity 717 00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:13,160 Speaker 6: for some of the other young teams with all the 718 00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:15,200 Speaker 6: injuries you know that, we've had, you know late season 719 00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:16,760 Speaker 6: with guy's been out all of, next year Like The, 720 00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:21,480 Speaker 6: orlando Magic The. TORONTO raptors I think i Think the 721 00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:24,600 Speaker 6: sixers can get back if, they're healthy, you. 722 00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:26,480 Speaker 5: Know dominant but, you know. 723 00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:29,280 Speaker 3: We'll see when's the lasestime? You, dunked. 724 00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:33,320 Speaker 5: Uh probably a couple maybe a month or. 725 00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:38,200 Speaker 3: So ago, oh okay just showing off, AND. 726 00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:40,680 Speaker 6: Listen i can go to a right league right now 727 00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:43,920 Speaker 6: and leading. AND scoring i PROMISE you. I. Could, GOOD 728 00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:46,520 Speaker 6: yeah i still try to stay in pretty good shape 729 00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:50,640 Speaker 6: and believe it, or not EVERY year i have kids 730 00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:53,880 Speaker 6: off from my school or my club that wants to 731 00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:56,880 Speaker 6: challenge me one. On one i'm the old guy that 732 00:33:56,920 --> 00:33:59,400 Speaker 6: they seem to think that they can beat and have to. 733 00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:01,880 Speaker 6: Remind THEM and i got paid to do this for, 734 00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:05,480 Speaker 6: a career, you Know so i'm not gonna allow a teenager. 735 00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:09,399 Speaker 3: To be could you so you Could Beat cooper flag one? 736 00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:10,719 Speaker 3: On ONE so. 737 00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:11,799 Speaker 5: I didn't i didn't say all. 738 00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:17,480 Speaker 2: Of, that okay, all right it felt like you were 739 00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:18,160 Speaker 2: on the verge of. 740 00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:20,400 Speaker 3: Saying, That no i'm not saying all of that. 741 00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:23,359 Speaker 6: Right, now okay THERE'S what i will tell YOU if 742 00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:25,239 Speaker 6: i had if we had a possession game where we 743 00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:28,799 Speaker 6: were playing mid posts to posts and we're going to 744 00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:30,799 Speaker 6: let's call it five to one, ON one i like. 745 00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:33,640 Speaker 3: My, chances OKAY. 746 00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:34,960 Speaker 4: Then. 747 00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:36,879 Speaker 5: I don't i don't like your response. On that though 748 00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:39,120 Speaker 5: you have no faith, IN me. 749 00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:40,200 Speaker 3: I don't have to. 750 00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:44,960 Speaker 2: SEE it, i mean what are you, forty five, forty six? 751 00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:49,200 Speaker 2: Forty six and if we're just paying playing in, the, 752 00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:52,520 Speaker 2: post yeah you're you're going To Dominate. 753 00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:56,120 Speaker 6: Cooper, Flag listen I'M saying i will be ABLE to 754 00:34:56,880 --> 00:35:00,040 Speaker 6: i like my chances against anybody in the post at. This, 755 00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:04,799 Speaker 6: point now if we're talking about playing, Full court i'm not, 756 00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:06,239 Speaker 6: Doing That like i'm gonna lose. 757 00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:08,000 Speaker 5: That battle these legs don't have that. 758 00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:10,520 Speaker 2: Much, gas OKAY if i have You against Victor winbin 759 00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:12,640 Speaker 2: yama right now in the post. 760 00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:18,640 Speaker 3: And we're just, straight, posts yes, Post, work, YEAH yeah. 761 00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:21,799 Speaker 5: I think i got. A chance I, do, okay ABSOLUTELY 762 00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:28,280 Speaker 5: then i can, RIGHT now i can, work again Let's beat, That's. 763 00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:31,800 Speaker 3: Okay okay you know how these these comments go when. 764 00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:32,279 Speaker 8: You say you gotta? 765 00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:33,080 Speaker 3: GO viral, i, Know. 766 00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:36,279 Speaker 6: Right, so listen if we, just, said hey don't we 767 00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:38,200 Speaker 6: bo on, the post we go one on one versus 768 00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:42,359 Speaker 6: me garden and and and me having, OFFENSIVE possessions i 769 00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:45,640 Speaker 6: still like my chances against ANYBODY because i still am 770 00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:48,520 Speaker 6: pretty nimble from a perspective of being able. To, play 771 00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:50,680 Speaker 6: now if it goes to like going up and down 772 00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:52,960 Speaker 6: the court and screening rolls and all, that stuff yeah 773 00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:54,680 Speaker 6: you can take me out. Of that but if it's mono, 774 00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:57,000 Speaker 6: and mono let's, POST up I think i got. 775 00:35:57,000 --> 00:36:00,080 Speaker 3: A chance so You'd beat lebron if you. Post up. 776 00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:04,000 Speaker 5: Then this IS. 777 00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:09,200 Speaker 6: Because i believe THAT if i had the ball and 778 00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:14,000 Speaker 6: if we plan just straight, post, UP yeah. 779 00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:13,880 Speaker 5: I Believe that i'm. Strong. 780 00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:17,080 Speaker 6: ENOUGH still I think i'm still agile enough to score 781 00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:19,480 Speaker 6: in the low POSTS because i do it. 782 00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:21,799 Speaker 5: EVERY year i still go on to. Basketball quest still, 783 00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:22,560 Speaker 5: you know. Do things. 784 00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:25,040 Speaker 6: I'm listening i'm sure if You Ask joe johnson, these, 785 00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:27,840 Speaker 6: things right you ask any of the older guys that still, 786 00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:30,120 Speaker 6: work out they're going to tell you the. Same thing 787 00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:32,359 Speaker 6: but they're not going, to, SAY look i can run 788 00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:33,680 Speaker 6: up and down the court with, these guys because. 789 00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:34,479 Speaker 5: We're not we can't. 790 00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:36,960 Speaker 2: Do that so you Could dominate lebron in, the post 791 00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:40,560 Speaker 2: is what, you're Saying and cooper flag you can. DOMINATE 792 00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:43,799 Speaker 2: him i said that VICTORIN be i just want to 793 00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:44,839 Speaker 2: MAKE sure i got this right. 794 00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:45,879 Speaker 3: FOR me i just Want to. 795 00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:48,160 Speaker 6: I'm SAYING that I have i FEEL like i have 796 00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:50,400 Speaker 6: a chance to win a one on one in the 797 00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:54,680 Speaker 6: low POST like ut win it, or not. We'll see 798 00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:57,719 Speaker 6: but if we're talking about just playing one on one in, 799 00:36:57,719 --> 00:37:00,080 Speaker 6: the post THERE'S something i do, every, YEAR right i 800 00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:02,160 Speaker 6: still still work out quite. 801 00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:04,360 Speaker 3: A Bit and lebron's not that much younger. 802 00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:08,120 Speaker 6: Than you so and men shout Out to, lebron, too 803 00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:11,120 Speaker 6: then like forty plus years old doing what. 804 00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:16,439 Speaker 2: He's. Doing amazing great to talk to. You again keep 805 00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:18,040 Speaker 2: working on the low, Post, MOVES okay. 806 00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:21,400 Speaker 5: I will i. Appreciate it In. 807 00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:25,080 Speaker 2: That's, jermaine O'Neill head Coach Of Dynamic prep Academy, In. 808 00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:30,560 Speaker 2: Irving texas it didn't matter WHAT name i. Threw out 809 00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:33,360 Speaker 2: you could just see he's just. Processing it IT'S like 810 00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:36,960 Speaker 2: i like. My, Chances, yes mark but. 811 00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:39,319 Speaker 8: We talked about that yesterday when, You, said Hey Does 812 00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:42,160 Speaker 8: james harden think he's better than so? And so these 813 00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:44,160 Speaker 8: guys they're. Wired, DIFFERENT yes. 814 00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:47,239 Speaker 2: I Still want lebron to Say, to katie do you 815 00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:48,160 Speaker 2: think you're better? 816 00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:51,319 Speaker 3: Than me on? That, podcast damn that would be a. Great, 817 00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:52,400 Speaker 3: question yes. 818 00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:56,239 Speaker 4: But these kids don't play The way, jermaine O'Neill guys 819 00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:59,799 Speaker 4: like him grew, up. Playing right they don't play that 820 00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:03,680 Speaker 4: post sort of banging bodies kind. Of, thing, heck yeah 821 00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:06,040 Speaker 4: he Could Push. Cooper flag he's gonna he can. Look 822 00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:09,360 Speaker 4: on he Can Push victor. Wembenyama around, heck yet he's. 823 00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:09,839 Speaker 3: Not Gonna push. 824 00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:13,480 Speaker 2: Lebron around Maybe, Not OKAY but i like THE confidence i, 825 00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:15,760 Speaker 2: have that, you know blind drunk. 826 00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:18,840 Speaker 3: Confidence too take a break back, after. 827 00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:21,239 Speaker 1: This be sure to catch the live Edition Of The 828 00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:24,680 Speaker 1: Dan patrick show weekdays at Nine am eastern Six am 829 00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:29,600 Speaker 1: Pacific On Fox sports radio And THE iHeartRadio wap saw. 830 00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:37,239 Speaker 2: This Story The cleveland Brown's insider Mary. Kay cabot she 831 00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:42,720 Speaker 2: Said That deshaun watson reportedly Has Taken shadoor sanders under. 832 00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:43,240 Speaker 3: His wing. 833 00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:46,319 Speaker 5: Excuse me. 834 00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:52,759 Speaker 2: According to Mary, Kay Cabot deshaun watson has been an 835 00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:56,520 Speaker 2: awesome teammate inside the, quarterback room most, meeting rooms a 836 00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:57,960 Speaker 2: great cheerleader for the. 837 00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:00,680 Speaker 3: Four quarterbacks buying for the. Starting john. 838 00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:02,279 Speaker 5: What could? 839 00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:03,040 Speaker 3: Go wrong. 840 00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:09,600 Speaker 2: And in Fairness To, deshaun watson maybe he truly is 841 00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:14,799 Speaker 2: going To Help shadoor sanders be, a quarterback. Be PROFESSIONAL 842 00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:17,759 Speaker 2: and i know you're going to say from a guy who, 843 00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:20,799 Speaker 2: wasn't professional but he was a very good quarterback at, 844 00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:24,680 Speaker 2: one point he was a very. Good quarterback i'll probably 845 00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:28,680 Speaker 2: get a little intel In The, cleveland browns if, not today, 846 00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:32,080 Speaker 2: maybe tomorrow maybe a little bit More because i'm reading 847 00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:36,520 Speaker 2: varying reports there about you know who's, the favorite and, 848 00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:38,840 Speaker 2: you know Is It? Kenny pickett which it Feels Like 849 00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:41,480 Speaker 2: kenny pickett might be the leader in. The clubhouse but 850 00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:44,600 Speaker 2: that's just to start. The season keep, in Mind the 851 00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:48,560 Speaker 2: browns have two first round picks, next year just, you 852 00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:52,000 Speaker 2: know you put that out there of maybe they don't have. 853 00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:56,080 Speaker 2: Their quarterback greatest week? In sports who had the greatest week? In, 854 00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:58,600 Speaker 2: Sports todd i'll start. With you the best week, In 855 00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:00,560 Speaker 2: sports i'm giving IT To sg they signs a new, 856 00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:02,239 Speaker 2: four year two hundred and eighty five Million dollars. 857 00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:05,720 Speaker 8: Supermax extension his salary will steadily in christmsword reaches seventy 858 00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:08,520 Speaker 8: eight million during the thirty thirty. One season according to our, 859 00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:10,280 Speaker 8: Guest Yesterday Bobby Marks. 860 00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:13,520 Speaker 3: Satan dame it's not. Even close and you know that's a. 861 00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:17,120 Speaker 4: Great week You got paide a gajillion dollars to go wherever, 862 00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:18,720 Speaker 4: he wants march my word. 863 00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:22,920 Speaker 3: Next spring. He's Healthy Marvin. 864 00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:25,520 Speaker 8: Miles turner signing it a nice big deal after a 865 00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:26,200 Speaker 8: long career With. 866 00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:27,680 Speaker 5: The pacers good, for. 867 00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:30,239 Speaker 3: Him, All. Right paul best week? In sports i'll Go 868 00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:30,960 Speaker 3: With pittsburgh. 869 00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:33,759 Speaker 7: Steeler fans it feels like your team has a, new 870 00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:36,640 Speaker 7: URGENCY and i think they had a nice month off. 871 00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:36,759 Speaker 9: The. 872 00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:39,000 Speaker 3: FIELD yeah i just NEED. 873 00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:43,480 Speaker 2: The tj watts situation to, be rectified, because look If 874 00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:47,640 Speaker 2: the bengals Bring Back, trey hendrickson they finally get him, 875 00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:52,120 Speaker 2: in camp and what, Is It shamar stewart and he, 876 00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:54,719 Speaker 2: comes In the bengals are going to be there to 877 00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:58,320 Speaker 2: win that division if those two. THINGS happen i really 878 00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:01,520 Speaker 2: believe that they will be there at. The end with 879 00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:04,400 Speaker 2: that offense and you get a little bit of, defense 880 00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:05,840 Speaker 2: there all you have to do is be middle of 881 00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:08,840 Speaker 2: the pack because that offense is going to. Be Elite 882 00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:12,920 Speaker 2: final hour on the way our Good Buddy, jim JACKSON former. 883 00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:17,000 Speaker 2: Nba player lots of things to talk about. WITH him 884 00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:20,799 Speaker 2: I enjoyed. GERMAINE O'Neil i hope you enjoyed it. As 885 00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:25,000 Speaker 2: well had a great appearance last time he was on. 886 00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:27,759 Speaker 2: As Well final hour In, this wednesday right after this