Speaker 1: No, no, come on, come on.
Speaker 2: Brian Mahoney from the AP is live in Cleveland. We
Speaker 2: want to get his take on what's happening right now,
Speaker 2: what the environment is at All Star weekend.
Speaker 3: What's the feel with the Knicks right now? Brian? Are
Speaker 3: you here? Are you with us?
Speaker 4: I am with you absolutely?
Speaker 3: Hey, Brian, how is it in Cleveland?
Speaker 2: Have you been enjoying the snow storm that's been going on?
Speaker 3: The snow and the ice.
Speaker 4: It's cold, It is cold, for sure. It's it's fun
Speaker 4: to be back at All Start. Don't get me wrong.
Speaker 4: You know obviously last year they couldn't really do this,
Speaker 4: so it's SIT's back to normal for the most part
Speaker 4: now with all the events back. But it's it's cold.
Speaker 4: It's we're not We're not in a warm weather city
Speaker 4: for sure.
Speaker 3: In Cleveland, Yeah, no doubt.
Speaker 2: At least you're somewhat enjoying festivities instead of having to
Speaker 2: be on the on the beat of drama in Brooklyn
Speaker 2: and in New York. At least like a week break
Speaker 2: for everyone who's wanting to know what's going on with Tibbs,
Speaker 2: what's going on with this next organization? Would love to
Speaker 2: get your take though, because there's a lot of blame
Speaker 2: that's being thrown around. Who should be to blame for
Speaker 2: the Knicks and their woes? All of those twenty point
Speaker 2: leads that they've blown in the last like eight games.
Speaker 3: What are you hearing?
Speaker 2: What's like really going on in terms of the reason
Speaker 2: that this team is struggling and what do you think
Speaker 2: happens next?
Speaker 4: Well, I mean there's a lot of you know, being
Speaker 4: here on the road, I've seen a lot of national people,
Speaker 4: there's a lot of you know, we can't believe how
Speaker 4: it get so bad so fast. You know, this was
Speaker 4: a you know, a good news, feel good story last
Speaker 4: year at the Nicks nicking the playoffs and Tom Tiba
Speaker 4: winning Coach of the Year, and it would just look
Speaker 4: like a great mix. And you know, people like to see,
Speaker 4: you know, once in a while the next have a
Speaker 4: good team and then they're surprised that went so bad
Speaker 4: so fast this year. I think they just, you know, unfortunately,
Speaker 4: the moves they made this year, they sort of built
Speaker 4: a team that is, you know, a competitive team. They're
Speaker 4: in every game most games anyway, but they're just not
Speaker 4: good enough to win a lot of them. They're you know,
Speaker 4: this team ultimately falls short, and it's a you know,
Speaker 4: a top to bottom failure. So far, Unfortunately, some players
Speaker 4: haven't played well enough, some moves they made weren't good enough.
Speaker 4: And Tom Thibodau has made some coaching mistakes.
Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure he has.
Speaker 2: But I think that it's interesting that the blame falls
Speaker 2: on him when the players that he are very clearly
Speaker 2: Tibbs guys. And now the news comes out that he
Speaker 2: wasn't super thrilled with the Evan Fournier signing, wasn't super
Speaker 2: thrilled with Kemba as well as Cam Reddish, And I'm
Speaker 2: curious as to, you know, the move with not re
Speaker 2: signing Reggie Bullock. I know that's kind of a niche question,
Speaker 2: but it feels like there was a shift within the
Speaker 2: organization maybe of trust where they were bringing in the
Speaker 2: Tibbs like mold guy, like a Derreck Rose, like a
Speaker 2: Taj Gibson, and then they end up getting kind of
Speaker 2: rid of them and going a different direction.
Speaker 3: What do you think is is the reason for that?
Speaker 4: No, it's a very good question, you know, obviously, you know, look,
Speaker 4: they felt they needed to upgrade the offense. You know,
Speaker 4: I think Jeff bang Gunde during doing one of their
Speaker 4: games this year, said, you know, look they you know,
Speaker 4: they tanked a bit in that Atlanta series. Afterwards, you know,
Speaker 4: they played so poorly offensively that they felt they had
Speaker 4: to go out this summer and upgrade that. And you know,
Speaker 4: the moves to get porny A and Kemba Walker. We're
Speaker 4: done that and they say, okay, maybe we can afford to,
Speaker 4: you know, sacrifice a little bit of defense and you
Speaker 4: let a guy like Bullet go, and you know, again
Speaker 4: it hasn't worked out. I understand why they made the
Speaker 4: move for sure, watching the end of last season, but
Speaker 4: also they took away some of the strength of the team.
Speaker 4: And you know, you probably saying some regards. Okay, a
Speaker 4: guy like Tom Tibodeau, you you know, I'll be able
Speaker 4: to deal with that, but you have to have a
Speaker 4: certain kind of player, and this team doesn't have all
Speaker 4: those kinds of players.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And it's like you have to earn the minutes
Speaker 2: for tips. You have to earn him. In practice, nothing's given.
Speaker 2: He'll give you a DNP if he doesn't like what
Speaker 2: you're doing. So I guess the question is if things
Speaker 2: go this direction, because right now Tibbs is saying, oh, well,
Speaker 2: now post All Star break, we're gonna start playing the
Speaker 2: young guys.
Speaker 3: What's the reason for that.
Speaker 2: Are the expectations no longer surpassing Obviously it's not going
Speaker 2: to be possible, but winning to the level of last
Speaker 2: year and now it's kind of a punt season.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was interesting hearing him say that after the
Speaker 4: game the other night. You know, he was talking about
Speaker 4: winning in one regard, that's all his focuses on winning,
Speaker 4: And then a few minutes later he said, Okay, we
Speaker 4: have these young guys, and you know, developing our young
Speaker 4: guys what we have to do, which obviously those are
Speaker 4: contractory feelings for the most part. So you know, they're
Speaker 4: still close to being in the play in position. I mean,
Speaker 4: that's only three games out maybe or so, so they
Speaker 4: could try and keep going. But with this little bit
Speaker 4: left in the season, they may I think it's worth it.
Speaker 4: And in that regard, then, yeah, they have enough guys
Speaker 4: here young, so you do have to start to give
Speaker 4: more minutes, I guess. And that's not the kind of
Speaker 4: thing he ever wants to do, but it may just
Speaker 4: be what management tells him to do.
Speaker 2: I'm curious as to what happens postseason. Tim signed a
Speaker 2: five year deal right off the jump, and I think
Speaker 2: the world is sort of wondering could he be on
Speaker 2: the chopping block legitimately? What does your feel on that?
Speaker 2: And is that just still to be determined or are
Speaker 2: we at a not at the tipping point as to
Speaker 2: where we can make a prediction on that.
Speaker 4: Yet I hate, I hate to make one because you
Speaker 4: never know what My feeling on the one, Renownd is, Look,
Speaker 4: the guys a winning record in New York. You know
Speaker 4: no one has that in no long time.
Speaker 5: Yes, so how could they not want to keep him around?
Speaker 5: He's proven he can do well here. On the other hand,
Speaker 5: he's on the Knicks, and they make reaction and decisions sometimes,
Speaker 5: you know, I would I want to give leon Rose
Speaker 5: benefit a doubt that that he's not going to be
Speaker 5: that kind who has done, you know what some of
Speaker 5: the previous presidents have done and just kind of bail
Speaker 5: out on things too quickly. But at the same time,
Speaker 5: you know, these being the Knicks, you just never never
Speaker 5: can know. They have a history of making the wrong
Speaker 5: move sometimes.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and James Dolan isn't always one of those those
Speaker 2: owners that want to have multiple coaches on the payroll
Speaker 2: all at the same time that it takes a lot
Speaker 2: for him to get there. Sometimes shifting over to Vinettes,
Speaker 2: what's kind of the vibe now that all the drama
Speaker 2: of the Harden trade has settled.
Speaker 4: It seems to be pretty good. You know, I wasn't
Speaker 4: around them much when things really went bad but hard,
Speaker 4: and they were on the West coast trip then when
Speaker 4: things seem to really fall up the deep end, and
Speaker 4: you know, I didn't realize how bad it seems to
Speaker 4: have gotten. And now that that trade is done and
Speaker 4: he's gone, Uh, you know that that win against the
Speaker 4: Knicks was was a great win, you know, to come
Speaker 4: back there and win that game, and you know, winning
Speaker 4: at home the first night when they had Drummond and
Speaker 4: Curry playing was a you know, routing Sacramento. So, uh,
Speaker 4: this seems to have really improved things. Now again, doesn't
Speaker 4: matter unless Kevin Durant gets healthy and then Benson's comes
Speaker 4: back think to play and all that stuff. But certainly
Speaker 4: they seem to be in a much better place mentally
Speaker 4: than they were, you know, ten days ago.
Speaker 2: Now, Harden said that this had very little to do
Speaker 2: with Kyrie, but that's not true.
Speaker 6: Is it?
Speaker 4: I can't imagine it is, you know, I mean, obviously,
Speaker 4: if you're gonna find a reason you frustrated as a
Speaker 4: NETS player, I mean you have to look there, don't you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean, and now you're getting to a
Speaker 2: point where you have a guy like Cam Thomas who's
Speaker 2: able to get buckets in late game situations without all
Speaker 2: that drama.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I think, you know, getting him more
Speaker 4: it helps. And you know, I can understand why Harden
Speaker 4: is disappointed obviously. You know, this has been two years
Speaker 4: in a row where Kyrie is not there all the
Speaker 4: time and James hardness to play heavy minutes because of that,
Speaker 4: And I don't think that's necessarily was fair to Harden.
Speaker 4: And so you know, is that the only reason you
Speaker 4: want to go? I don't want to say that. I
Speaker 4: think that would be unfair, But I certainly can't imagine
Speaker 4: they played no factor at all. You know, we saw
Speaker 4: he was appointed after the Nets change our mind in
Speaker 4: December and brought Kyrie bank and and uh, you know
Speaker 4: that certainly it all added up to him wanting out.
Speaker 2: Do you believe that this situation happens the way that
Speaker 2: it does if Kyrie was not a part time player,
Speaker 2: that he was a no time player.
Speaker 4: If Kyrie hadn't played role this year would have one.
Speaker 4: That's a it's a it's a good question. I uh,
Speaker 4: you know, I I think maybe he would have made
Speaker 4: it through the season. Maybe and you know, and then
Speaker 4: you know he's playing was to go into free into
Speaker 4: the summer, and maybe he would have stuck with that.
Speaker 4: If he was so frustrated he would have been left
Speaker 4: or you know, just wanted to go, he would have left.
Speaker 4: But uh, you know, it's very possible that when the
Speaker 4: Nets changed our mind, that that sped things up. You know,
Speaker 4: I certainly, you know, Harden needs to win the title,
Speaker 4: is the bottom line. He you know, Kevin Durants won,
Speaker 4: Kyrie Irvings won, Harden hasn't won, and he needs to
Speaker 4: make sure they're doing everything possible to win. And the
Speaker 4: Nets were not. Kyrie not playing all the time wasn't
Speaker 4: going to help him here. So that certainly, you know,
Speaker 4: would have this point at him.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's interesting that on one end k Carden's full
Speaker 2: goal is to win right now, but on the other end,
Speaker 2: we're seeing you know, reports that he's out on the
Speaker 2: road partying, that his conditioning isn't up to par I'm
Speaker 2: very curious as to how this actually ends up shaking out,
Speaker 2: whether any of those things change now that he's in Philly.
Speaker 2: What what's the vibe with Ben and when we can
Speaker 2: see him return.
Speaker 4: You know, that'll be interesting because you know, they play
Speaker 4: in Philadelphia in a couple of weeks on market. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I don't know what they want to have been to
Speaker 4: who's played there, you know, if he has you know,
Speaker 4: mental health struggles. Uh So that's a tough place. So
Speaker 4: you know, do they on the one hand, not bring
Speaker 4: him back before then on the other hand, if they
Speaker 4: don't bring him back before then, you know, this is
Speaker 4: a team that doesn't have a lot of games left
Speaker 4: and they're you know, pretty far back into standing, so
Speaker 4: they need to get things going.
Speaker 6: So it'll be.
Speaker 4: Fascinating to see, you know, how soon you know, physically
Speaker 4: and mentally he's ready to get on the court.
Speaker 2: So I'm curious, says to how things are shaking out
Speaker 2: also with Kyrie, because I've I've seen some news that
Speaker 2: there's a potential and this has been whispering for months
Speaker 2: now that possibly that New York will change their mandate
Speaker 2: or maybe he'll be able to figure out where the
Speaker 2: Nets pay a fine, like what is actually true here?
Speaker 3: And is that actually going to change before playoff time?
Speaker 4: I mean, just use the Steve words, Steve Nash's words.
Speaker 4: They're optimistic, you know. I think everyone is sort of
Speaker 4: looking at things are you know, getting better and numbers
Speaker 4: are going down, and you know they believe in the
Speaker 4: way happen. I understand, you know, the mayor you know
Speaker 4: has said, you know, I'm not sure myself what to do,
Speaker 4: but I don't want to rush this and send the
Speaker 4: wrong message. But the playoffs are still you know, two
Speaker 4: months away, so I think the Nets can you know,
Speaker 4: hang in there. The problem is if it doesn't happen.
Speaker 4: I think, you know, a lot of us all thought
Speaker 4: at some point Kyrie would say, I prove my point
Speaker 4: and I'm going to get the vaccine. There's been no
Speaker 4: reason to believe that's going to change it all during
Speaker 4: this whole season. He seems to have sort of dug
Speaker 4: in more. Even so you know, if the man it
Speaker 4: doesn't change, they have to, you know, realistically think you know,
Speaker 4: he's not going to play at all this year and
Speaker 4: on games and you know, and you know they can't
Speaker 4: win if that doesn't happen, and.
Speaker 2: If that doesn't happen and we get a halftime kai
Speaker 2: all the way through playoffs. I know we're not in
Speaker 2: the prediction game all the time, but I have to
Speaker 2: ask you, like, if you had to put odds on
Speaker 2: Kyrie getting an extension this summer, if he does, and
Speaker 2: at what length, where would you go with that?
Speaker 4: You know, I think the Nets have to be careful
Speaker 4: with that. You know. Again, I he you know, he
Speaker 4: took a leave of absence last year. He has not
Speaker 4: been committed to doing what it does to play all
Speaker 4: year this year. These are his own personal issues. I
Speaker 4: understand that. I'm you know, I don't want to say, but.
Speaker 2: He's never available full full games except for the years when.
Speaker 4: He was with Braun right, So you know, you can't
Speaker 4: then pay him maxim money in my mind to you know,
Speaker 4: if you're not going to be there all the time. Now,
Speaker 4: you know what you know? Is there a middle number
Speaker 4: where the Nets will say, well, we're going to extend you,
Speaker 4: but we're giving you only this, uh, you know, And
Speaker 4: as that matter of Kyrie, I'm not even sure, you know,
Speaker 4: it's hard to really tell what's important to him at
Speaker 4: this at this point in his life and his career,
Speaker 4: so it's going to be tough one for the Nets
Speaker 4: to navigate it. It's such a hard question to answer
Speaker 4: because we've never seen this. You know, how many you
Speaker 4: know guys are they with his talent who you aren't
Speaker 4: sure whether they want to play basketball anymore? And that's
Speaker 4: where we kind of are with Kyrie.
Speaker 3: Where are we with Joe side?
Speaker 2: Do you think because he's kind of the key piece,
Speaker 2: his only goal is to win at any cost, has
Speaker 2: there been any whispers about what his sentiment.
Speaker 6: Is on this?
Speaker 4: You know, the only really wizards we hear is obviously
Speaker 4: you know, he believes in vaccines and science, so there
Speaker 4: was some disappointment there. But at the same time, he
Speaker 4: also you know, wants to do what everyone takes to win,
Speaker 4: as you mentioned, and bringing Kyrie back was part of that,
Speaker 4: so you know, he did. You know, they all have
Speaker 4: done what they had to do for this season to
Speaker 4: give us out what they felt was the best chance.
Speaker 4: But you know, going forward up this year, they have
Speaker 4: to sort of evaluate the whole thing because there's dollars
Speaker 4: and cents involved, and and commitment levels and talent levels
Speaker 4: and all those kind of things. And he's a tough
Speaker 4: one to evaluate.
Speaker 2: Brian, thank you so much for joining us all the
Speaker 2: way from Icy Snowy. Got your surrels on, your bug
Speaker 2: boots on. Hopefully you don't have your sneaker game going
Speaker 2: because I think you'll have to leave those in the hotel.
Speaker 4: You don't want to wear anything on your feet on
Speaker 4: the strip, that's.
Speaker 3: For sure, and that's what the All Star Game is
Speaker 3: all about. Brian, thanks so much for joining us.
Speaker 4: Thanks to take care.
Speaker 6: Thank you.
Speaker 3: Brian Mahoney from the AP Live in Cleveland. The Danis
Speaker 3: pleasure doesn't nothing. I measure, there's getten.
Speaker 2: A lot of a lot of hate here. I'm Tristan
Speaker 2: Criek here on the fan. A lot of hate here
Speaker 2: for Tibbs. The pitchforks are out for Tibbs.
Speaker 3: I tell you what. I was talking to a couple
Speaker 3: of co workers, Big.
Speaker 2: Knicks fans, and they're like, Tibbs is an idiot, Tibbs sucks.
Speaker 2: Tibbs won Coach of the Year last year. So my
Speaker 2: question is does a coach go from being elite Coach
Speaker 2: of the Year status to becoming absolute garbage overnight?
Speaker 3: Or is there more going on here?
Speaker 2: Because I believe that there's a lot of blame to
Speaker 2: go around, and I think Tibbs is the last person
Speaker 2: that should be fired or the last person that should
Speaker 2: be on the chopping block, the guillotine, whatever you want
Speaker 2: to say, right, because let's put this into perspective. Say
Speaker 2: you're an employee, you get hired, You get hired right
Speaker 2: off tops for five years. They've got the trust in
Speaker 2: you to sign you immediately to a long term deal.
Speaker 2: They know everything about you, they know your history, they
Speaker 2: know your reputation. You guys got a great relationship. You've
Speaker 2: laid out the plan for success, and the business that
Speaker 2: you're coming into to run has been successful for I
Speaker 2: mean a long long time. And you come in and
Speaker 2: you ignite the culture. All of a sudden things are
Speaker 2: going swimmingly. All of a sudden, you are performing well
Speaker 2: above expected, I mean well above well above expectations.
Speaker 3: Like the team the Knicks going to the playoffs. Excuse me, Okay, we've.
Speaker 2: Got to play in tournament here, we've got a playing Okay,
Speaker 2: so the Knicks, we're like a nine hour ten seed, right, no.
Speaker 3: Four seed.
Speaker 2: They had home court advantage with Tom Thibodeaux. He got
Speaker 2: a couple of his guys in Derrick Rose, and he's like,
Speaker 2: oh yeah, we'll bring him in for you.
Speaker 3: We know he's a TIBs guy. All of a sudden,
Speaker 3: you're a four seed.
Speaker 2: Yes, you did get bounced by okay, a team that
Speaker 2: went to the Eastern Conference finals in the Atlanta Hawks,
Speaker 2: so there's no shame in that. And then okay, you
Speaker 2: win Coach of the Year Tom Thibodeaux for the New Nicks,
Speaker 2: and one year later you say, Okay, I've outperformed expectations.
Speaker 2: The city is electrified by me. They think I'm doing
Speaker 2: a phenomenal job. Flowers and roses and everyone's excited. The
Speaker 2: garden's going crazy. It's back to the nineties era.
Speaker 3: Week go.
Speaker 2: And then you say, listen, in order for me to
Speaker 2: get to that next level, which is to really compete,
Speaker 2: I have some additional resources that I need.
Speaker 3: Can you get me x y z. And instead of
Speaker 3: getting you what you need, what you got was Evan Fournier. Yikes.
Speaker 2: I love me some Evan Fournier, but I only like
Speaker 2: him when he's playing in the Olympics. I am not
Speaker 2: a fan of domestic Evan Fournier basketball. And I don't
Speaker 2: think Tom Thibodeau is either and then you go out
Speaker 2: and get a feel good story in Kemba Walker. Kemba
Speaker 2: Walker is injury prone. He's never played defense his entire career.
Speaker 2: He's a New York kid that literally the Boston Celtics
Speaker 2: had to pay to get rid of. And you're like,
Speaker 2: we are going to get this guy into the starting
Speaker 2: lineup for Tom Thibodeau. And you know, Leon Rose and
Speaker 2: Worldwide West, they know everything that there is to know
Speaker 2: about Tom Thibodau and what he needs and what he
Speaker 2: wants to succeed, and they give him Evan Fournier and
Speaker 2: Kemball Walker, my lord, and then when it doesn't go
Speaker 2: the way that you expect as a fan base, as
Speaker 2: a front office, as ownership, it's like, well, Tibbs is
Speaker 2: the one to blame.
Speaker 3: Really, is that true? Is that true?
Speaker 6: Why?
Speaker 2: Because you gave him an inferior amount of resources and
Speaker 2: the type of resources that he asked for, and then
Speaker 2: you still expected him to not only perform to the
Speaker 2: level that he did last year, but even above. And Okay,
Speaker 2: so it's Julius Randall's fault because Julius Randall is now
Speaker 2: playing more minutes than he's ever played.
Speaker 3: His usage rate is through the roof.
Speaker 2: And you've got Kemba now being benched, and now it's
Speaker 2: trade deadline time, and what do you do? You say,
Speaker 2: everything is on sale, everything must.
Speaker 3: Go, anything can go. We just need some pieces that
Speaker 3: fit into the Tibbs model. And what do you do?
Speaker 3: You go get Cam Reddish. Cam Reddish can't the same
Speaker 3: Cam Reddish that.
Speaker 2: The Atlanta Hawks went on a tear right after they
Speaker 2: traded away that Cam Reddish. No shade to Cam Reddish.
Speaker 2: He can be a very very good player in this
Speaker 2: league at some point, but he is not a Tom
Speaker 2: Thibodeau player. Hence the reason he got multiple dnps to
Speaker 2: start the year and to start his career for the
Speaker 2: New York Knicks. So the question is what is a
Speaker 2: Tom Thibodeau player. Well, you've got to be healthy, you've
Speaker 2: got to play defense, you have to be a dog.
Speaker 2: That is the most important, And the most most important
Speaker 2: is you have to buy in too doing all those things.
Speaker 3: You have to say, Okay, Tom, I get you. I'm
Speaker 3: gonna do it.
Speaker 2: But not only am I gonna do it. I'm not
Speaker 2: gonna do it begrudgingly. I'm going to do it because
Speaker 2: I know that's what takes it takes to win from
Speaker 2: for you. Evan Fournier is not a defender. Evan Fournier
Speaker 2: is not tough. Evan Fournier is not a Tibbs player.
Speaker 2: And surprise, surprise, when the news came out, Tom Thibodeau
Speaker 2: was not happy with the signings of Evan Fournier, Cam
Speaker 2: Reddish and Kevin Walker and they're shopping Kimba and Kemba's
Speaker 2: coming out with quote saying, well, I'm here now, I
Speaker 2: don't know what to say. Goodness gracious, and so it's
Speaker 2: Tibb's fault and that Tibbs on a five year deal
Speaker 2: should be should be fired.
Speaker 3: How dare us?
Speaker 2: You may or may not like what Tibb's methods are,
Speaker 2: but you sign him to those methods for five years
Speaker 2: and he got you to the four seed and you
Speaker 2: were a struggling franchise not even thinking about a move
Speaker 2: and a world that you could imagine hosting a playoff
Speaker 2: game at the garden?
Speaker 3: Are are we serious?
Speaker 2: Are we all living in the same universe right now?
Speaker 2: I cannot believe it really quick. Let's go to Doe
Speaker 2: from Middletown, Dough, what's up?
Speaker 6: This is boh, hey, how are you? How are you
Speaker 6: to I'm a big Knicks fan. I've been to a
Speaker 6: Knicks fan fault. Maybe it was twenty twenty five years,
Speaker 6: going back to the Patrick Ewing days. It Mike, Mike? Then?
Speaker 6: Is that the way how Tom Thibodeau is. I I'm
Speaker 6: kind of sad to see Reggie Reggie bull bullet when
Speaker 6: he was gone and that was that was that was
Speaker 6: his player, that was his that was his dog right
Speaker 6: there when he was gone. And then then when they
Speaker 6: signed Evan Forty and Kevin Walker are like, okay, they're
Speaker 6: they're dressing away from his idea of his team. And
Speaker 6: now like, I'm disappointed that how this team is coming together,
Speaker 6: that they were coming together just coming along. And and
Speaker 6: my question is that who's who's going to take the
Speaker 6: blame that after the season? Is will Tom still be
Speaker 6: around or will upper management will be changed?
Speaker 3: It's a great question.
Speaker 2: It's a great question from bow and unfortunately, should and
Speaker 2: will are two totally different things. Who should be to
Speaker 2: blame the people who make decisions and give you the
Speaker 2: raw materials to then bake or cook or whatever or
Speaker 2: build a team with right create something and you're just
Speaker 2: gonna say, oh what Tibb's teams are giving up multiple
Speaker 2: twenty point leads. These are not his players. He is
Speaker 2: the kind of guy where you earn your minutes in practice.
Speaker 2: We're talking about practice. Yes, for Tom Thibodeau, who has
Speaker 2: been called the Penguin by people that are not me.
Speaker 3: That is his style. You earn everything you get.
Speaker 2: You don't come in here and just get it, unless
Speaker 2: you're Julius Randall. But that's because he proved it last year.
Speaker 3: And you're right, Bo, the people who.
Speaker 2: Make those decisions and give Tom the players that he
Speaker 2: has asked specifically, not for he wanted to resign Reggie Book.
Speaker 2: Reggie Bullock was a great piece, good role player, a
Speaker 2: good defender. And I know we as New Yorkers, are
Speaker 2: not huge fans of Frank Noliquina. Frank Nilikina got barbecued,
Speaker 2: chicken got cooked by Trey Young, but Frank Milikina had
Speaker 2: a history of being Trey Young up. In twenty eighteen,
Speaker 2: the Knicks had one hundred and twelve one oh seven
Speaker 2: victory over the Hawks, and Frank was locking Tray down.
Speaker 2: He had zero points in the first half, seventeen points overall.
Speaker 2: Tibbs trusted Milikina. Now you might say that was.
Speaker 3: A bad move.
Speaker 2: Maybe that changed the entire history or course of that
Speaker 2: playoff series. Maybe it did, maybe it didn't. So does
Speaker 2: Tibbs deserve to be fired?
Speaker 3: I don't think so. Will he be fired? Could he
Speaker 3: be fired?
Speaker 2: People who were in charge, they're looking for people to blame.
Speaker 2: The shives are out, as they say, and the guillotines
Speaker 2: coming down. And we've got a secret illuminati in the
Speaker 2: clouds where they're pulling strings and we don't know where
Speaker 2: they are or what they're up to, but we know
Speaker 2: that they're connected to the more important historical events in sports.
Speaker 2: And they have to also run the New York Knicks. Obviously,
Speaker 2: James Thullen is a factor. He's not going anywhere either.
Speaker 3: So will Tibbs be fired?
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 3: Should he be fired? I don't think so. But listen, Tibbs,
Speaker 3: if you gave him everything that he wanted. Also, by
Speaker 3: the way, the guys.
Speaker 2: Who are on this roster who are Tibbs guys, are
Speaker 2: completely injured. You've got Derrick Rose who's down.
Speaker 6: R J.
Speaker 3: Barrett who's down.
Speaker 2: That's a big piece, and he's got a bunch of
Speaker 2: young guys, and he wants to win games now, and
Speaker 2: people are coming out with the guillotines for him because
Speaker 2: he doesn't want to play the youth movement, but he's
Speaker 2: also got pressure in order to fulfill those expectations, not
Speaker 2: only from last year, but also to surpass them.
Speaker 3: Doesn't nothing imagine would be a fiction of the f
Speaker 3: anything one more. I was so good being bad. There's
Speaker 3: no way I'm turning back.