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Speaker 1: At one of these rallies, he was assaulted with milkshakes

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Speaker 1: and punched and shoved several times. This was a little

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Speaker 1: after No had been present to selectively film a right

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Speaker 1: wing assault at a local left wing hangout that left

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Speaker 1: a woman hospitalized with severe injuries. No had presented the

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Speaker 1: scene to look like right wingers were defending themselves, but

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Speaker 1: in actuality, they initiated this brutal attack, and it was

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Speaker 1: later found out that No was actually at the planning

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Speaker 1: of this violent assault. In some footage secretly filmed, No

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Speaker 1: was seen laughing as Patriot Prayer members discussed beating up

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Speaker 1: left wing activists and so called communists. After he was

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Speaker 1: beat up, No raised hundreds of thousands of dollars and

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Speaker 1: mostly stopped going to protests himself. Instead, he either embedded

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Speaker 1: footage from actual on the ground journalists or used stolen

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Speaker 1: footage from various far right accounts that download, edit, and

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Speaker 1: repost footage from protests. All the footage Andy No shares

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Speaker 1: about this head kicking incident is heavily edited to make

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Speaker 1: it unclear to his followers what is actually happening and

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Speaker 1: to make nose twisted narrative more believable. No started posting

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Speaker 1: about the truck driver assault by describing Portland as being

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Speaker 1: quote occupied with BLM and Antifa rioters unquote, further saying

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Speaker 1: that the man had simply crashed his car and that

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Speaker 1: quote the mob had pulled him out of his vehicle

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Speaker 1: and quote beat him senseless with no. There are always

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Speaker 1: attempts to paint Portland as being full of quote Antifa

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Speaker 1: mobs roaming the streets looking for anyone to beat up,

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Speaker 1: with the police never actually showing up to stop these

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Speaker 1: dangerous Antifa, which this is, of course, far from the truth.

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Speaker 1: The police themselves quickly showed up to this very incident

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Speaker 1: after the head kick and arrested the perpetrator as soon

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Speaker 1: as they identified him. No continued to post other people's

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Speaker 1: clips while describing quote rioters and quote the mob attacking

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Speaker 1: this man. But in the videos he shares, it's almost

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Speaker 1: entirely one person doing all of the violence, and other

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Speaker 1: members of this quote mob trying to physically restrain this

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Speaker 1: main person from hitting the truck driver in a clip

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Speaker 1: of people trying to provide first aid, and he describes

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Speaker 1: quote rioters when no riot was actually declared that night,

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Speaker 1: standing over the truck driver's unconscious body, after quote they

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Speaker 1: beat him up. No also writes quote they pour water

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Speaker 1: on him, as if people are just doing it for fun. Now,

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Speaker 1: water isn't actually poured on the person in the video

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Speaker 1: No captions that on but in other videos you can

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Speaker 1: see water being poured on his head to both clean

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Speaker 1: out the wounds and to attempt to wake him up.

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Speaker 1: And he then posts about the altercation that took place

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Speaker 1: prior to the crash, saying that quote, the BLM mob

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Speaker 1: is beating a blonde woman, referencing the truck driver's girlfriend.

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Speaker 1: And just as before, the video actually shows two people

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Speaker 1: from the crowd in front of the seven eleven trying

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Speaker 1: to hit this older woman as many of people from

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Speaker 1: the actual testing crowd tried to protect her. No makes

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Speaker 1: a post talking about the man that kicked the truck

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Speaker 1: driver in the head, saying quote, he's part of the

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Speaker 1: marauding BLM security at the protests in Portland. These are

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Speaker 1: the people protesters want to replace the police with Now,

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Speaker 1: this is simply an unverified and false claim. No one

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Speaker 1: in Portland has ever talked about replacing the police with

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Speaker 1: the random dudes that elected themselves as quote security during protests.

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Speaker 1: In fact, many people at protests speak out against these

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Speaker 1: self proclaimed security people, both before and after this incident.

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Speaker 1: And of course no failed to mention that all this

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Speaker 1: happened some distance away from the actual BLM protests that night.

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Speaker 1: Like I said, I was there and I knew nothing

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Speaker 1: about this until I got home and checked Twitter. But no,

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Speaker 1: what have you think that this is the BLM movement itself,

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Speaker 1: not a mixture of random men who la past security

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Speaker 1: and drunk people. At seven eleven, when interviewed by local media,

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Speaker 1: the truck driver's girl friend and the set of the

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Speaker 1: people who attacked her and her boyfriend were not real protesters.

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Speaker 1: From months leading up to this incident, the far right

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Speaker 1: had seemed almost afraid to get involved in Portland's protests.

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Speaker 1: Some of this was likely due to the terrifying police violence,

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Speaker 1: but we suspect the larger factor was that over the weeks,

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Speaker 1: Portland's BLM protesters had been hardened by that violence and

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Speaker 1: grown skilled at standing up to it as a unit.

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Speaker 1: Prior to the sixteenth, there had only been two truly

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Speaker 1: noteworthy far right attacks on protests. One came courtesy of

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Speaker 1: a former Navy seal who allegedly threw an improvised explosive

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Speaker 1: device at a small crowd of activists after a demonstration,

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Speaker 1: and on August fifteenth, a group of right wing protesters,

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Speaker 1: including many former Patriot Prayer members, held a flag wave

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Speaker 1: outside the Justice Center. Numerous attendees assaulted and maced left

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Speaker 1: wing counter protesters. One attendee, longtime far right rally or

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Speaker 1: Skyler Journegan, fired his handgun into the crowd. He failed

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Speaker 1: to hit anyone and was arrested a few days later,

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Speaker 1: but the incident presaged rising tensions that would break out

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Speaker 1: into mass violence just a week later. Online rage over

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Speaker 1: the assault outside of the seven eleven, and long simmering

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Speaker 1: anger over the BLM movement, which had seemed to capture

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Speaker 1: the city's entire interest, inspired a coalition of different patriot

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Speaker 1: groups to plan a rally for the twenty second. The

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Speaker 1: attend d s would turn out to be a serried

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Speaker 1: melange of far right and outright fascist demonstrators. Members of

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Speaker 1: the Proud Boys made up the backbone of the force

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Speaker 1: that showed up in front of the j C on

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Speaker 1: the twenty second, but there were also Neo Nazis and militiamen.

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Speaker 1: The individuals who showed up were only bound by two things,

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Speaker 1: performative support for police who assaulted leftists and a desire

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Speaker 1: to do similar violence themselves. These men and women showed

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Speaker 1: up ready to fight. They wore armor, carried paintball guns

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Speaker 1: with frozen paintballs, cans of bear mace, telescoping batons, knives,

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Speaker 1: and firearms. The start of the demonstration was set for

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Speaker 1: twelve noon. By the time Garrison and I arrived on scene,

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Speaker 1: several dozen right wingers were already present. Standing across the

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Speaker 1: street were less than half that number of anti fascists.

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Speaker 1: The vibe was immediately tense, but not immediately violent. A

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Speaker 1: pro BLM bicycle protests drove through the street in between

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Speaker 1: both groups, followed by a crowd of several dozen bikers

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Speaker 1: for Trump and men in trucks waving Trump and backed

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Speaker 1: the blue flags. Well all this happened, more fascists and

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Speaker 1: far right demonstrators continued to arrive. Their numbers hit a

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Speaker 1: hundred than two hundred, while the forces countering them remained

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Speaker 1: relatively small. At around twelve ten PM, a massive street

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Speaker 1: fight broke out, as best I could tell, and started

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Speaker 1: when a local activist in a wheelchair pulled up in

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Speaker 1: front of one pro Trump biker. People surrounded both of them.

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Speaker 1: Both sides collided, and then there were fist fights, mace

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Speaker 1: and shoving. I can't even tell you who started it.

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Speaker 1: David Willis, a local anti Semitic protester, threatened me in

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Speaker 1: a number of other protesters with an a R fifteen

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Speaker 1: style paintball gun loaded with paintballs that he had frozen

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Speaker 1: in order to cause more damage. Willis had evidently spent

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Speaker 1: quite some time listening to Portland protest live streams. He

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Speaker 1: repeatedly threatened people using a tone that I think was

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Speaker 1: a deliberate imitation of the police. There was a brief

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Speaker 1: loll in the action after this initial explosion, but it

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Speaker 1: did not last long. A violence commenced soon again. Right

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Speaker 1: wing demonstrators pulled out tasers and beat sticks. Several of

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Speaker 1: them formed up into a shield wall organized by a

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Speaker 1: neo Nazi with a baton who attempted to lead them

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Speaker 1: in the battle, and around twelve p m the fighting

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Speaker 1: waned again. Anti fascist reinforcement showed up and the two

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Speaker 1: groups neared parody, with two or three hundred people on

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Speaker 1: each side. There was a pause in the violence, but

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Speaker 1: everyone in attendance knew it would not last. The police

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Speaker 1: opted to stay away, although in the distance you could

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Speaker 1: hear the l rat asking everyone to please stay nice.

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Speaker 1: For a little over a half hour, relative peace reigned.

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Speaker 1: More left wing demonstrators continued to show up, including Dimitria Hester,

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Speaker 1: who led the crowd and chance of Black Lives Matter.

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Speaker 1: Right wingers responded with less cohesive chance of their own,

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Speaker 1: like hey, hey, ho ho, these violent rioters have got

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Speaker 1: to go. Finally, a bit after one ten p m,

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Speaker 1: a right wing demonstrator hupped a jug of o J

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Speaker 1: over his shield wall and into the anti fascist ranks.

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Speaker 1: This was followed by improvised flash bangs, and soon another

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Speaker 1: general melee broke out. Things got incredibly ugly. Much of

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Speaker 1: the violence centered around the BLM snack van, a common

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Speaker 1: sight at local protests that did exactly what it sounds like.

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Speaker 1: In this video, you can hear a crowd of several

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Speaker 1: dozen charge a single man standing in front of the van.

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Speaker 1: They mace him repeatedly and beat his arms and legs

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Speaker 1: with batons. Brawls continued to break out, and a little

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Speaker 1: after one twenty p m. As I rushed over to

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Speaker 1: wear a crowd of Proud Boys and other Bright wingers

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Speaker 1: were assaulting a person on the ground, beating them with sticks.

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Speaker 1: A Proud boy swung up baton at my camera, hand,

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Speaker 1: breaking it in two places. Numerous other people bones broken

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Speaker 1: by violent fascists that day. Most of these individuals will

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Speaker 1: never make their names public. They showed up in black

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Speaker 1: block to confront dangerous Nazis and other extremists who intended

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Speaker 1: to harm people. Violence occurred throughout the next hour, with

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Speaker 1: mass shield charges from the right wing that were repulsed

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00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:24,080
Speaker 1: only after significant injuries. The whole ugly event culminated around

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Speaker 1: two pm, when an anti fascist shield wall finally squared

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Speaker 1: off with a fascist shield wall. This was the first

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Speaker 1: time that both groups had confronted each other in a mass,

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Speaker 1: unified way, as opposed to the dozens of scattered brawls

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Speaker 1: and to be fair conversations that had characterized the early

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Speaker 1: part of the day. The right hoocked fireworks and insults

646
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:50,000
Speaker 1: at their opponents. Both groups kept their distance, throwing things

647
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:53,320
Speaker 1: and opposing each other with lines of shields. This stalemate

648
00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:55,680
Speaker 1: lasted for a few minutes and was broken when a

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00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:59,600
Speaker 1: group of unarmed and unmasked BIPOC activists marched up to

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Speaker 1: the right wing shield wall. Despite being unarmed, they were assaulted,

651
00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:07,120
Speaker 1: en massed by the crowd and repeatedly maced. Anti fascists

652
00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:09,080
Speaker 1: had to run up and pull them back into the

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Speaker 1: line in order to protect them. The sheer volume of

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Speaker 1: mace deployed by the right wing worked against them, though

655
00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:24,920
Speaker 1: unlike their opponents who had spent the summer getting tear gassed,

656
00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:28,080
Speaker 1: the right wing had very few gas masks or respirators.

657
00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:31,920
Speaker 1: They blinded themselves with their own poisoned Then one anti

658
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:34,520
Speaker 1: fascist hucked a firework into the middle of the half

659
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Speaker 1: blind shield wall, and the entire line panicked and eventually

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Speaker 1: broke and fled. They briefly ran to the nearby I. R.

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Speaker 1: S Building, begging the federal agents inside for help. When

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Speaker 1: they were denied help, the right wing crowd retreated and

663
00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:53,839
Speaker 1: gradually dissipated. August would mark the largest confrontation between right

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Speaker 1: and left in Portland during the summer, but it was

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Speaker 1: not the deadliest. That title would be earned the next weekend,

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Speaker 1: when a Trump cruise, which consisted of several thousand pickup

667
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Speaker 1: trucks and other vehicles flying Trump and thin Blue line flags,

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Speaker 1: rolled through the city of Portland and eventually through downtown Portland.

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Speaker 1: There was violence at this event, but it was much

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Speaker 1: less cohesive. Several groups of Trump supporters fired paintball guns

671
00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:21,040
Speaker 1: and mason to crowds from moving vehicles. The crowd this day, however,

672
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Speaker 1: was less extreme than the smaller crowd on the twenty two.

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Speaker 1: Some Trump supporters even went to the aid of people

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Speaker 1: who were injured by other Trump supporters, and in general

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Speaker 1: the overall group was much less ready to fight, at

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Speaker 1: least in an organized way. But the site of thousands

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00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:39,800
Speaker 1: of pickup trucks blaring flags, and of course the assaults

678
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:42,319
Speaker 1: from a number of members of the Trump crews meant

679
00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:46,480
Speaker 1: that anxiety was extremely high among Portland protesters, and of

680
00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:49,000
Speaker 1: course contributing to this was the fact that the previous

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Speaker 1: two weekends had involved heavy violence and gunfire. One individual

682
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Speaker 1: had fired a handgun in warning during the protest on

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Speaker 1: the twenty second, in addition to Skyler Journegan's shots into

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Speaker 1: a crowd the week before. So understandably everyone was very

685
00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:06,360
Speaker 1: amped up, and while the train of mounted Trump supporters

686
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:10,800
Speaker 1: eventually passed through town without serious life threatening violence, events

687
00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:13,360
Speaker 1: at the periphery of the caravan would shortly lead to

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Speaker 1: the first fatality of Portland's protests. The conflict occurred as

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Speaker 1: two right wing demonstrators, both of whom had been present

690
00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:24,640
Speaker 1: at the two were walking home. J Danielson and Chandler

691
00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:29,279
Speaker 1: Pappas were regular patriot prayer marchers. Both carried handguns, batons,

692
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Speaker 1: and mace. The exact sequence of events is unclear, but

693
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Speaker 1: as best we can tell from since released surveillance footage,

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Speaker 1: Pappas and Danielson seemed to have attacked a pro BLM

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Speaker 1: and anti fascist demonstrator named Michael Reinhold. Reinhold responded to

696
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Speaker 1: their mace with gunfire, killing Danielson in nearly hitting pappas

697
00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:52,760
Speaker 1: Renald ran and fled the scene, immediately disappearing into the city.

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00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:56,040
Speaker 1: For several days, his identity was unknown and details around

699
00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:59,560
Speaker 1: the shooting were completely obscured. This did not stop the

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Speaker 1: right wing media and President Trump himself from turning Danielson

701
00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:06,319
Speaker 1: into a martyr. Calls to brand Antifa a terrorist group

702
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:10,319
Speaker 1: reached a fever pitch when Reynold's identity was revealed. Much

703
00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:12,640
Speaker 1: was made of the fact that he identified with both

704
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Speaker 1: BLM and Antifa. The right wing disinformation ecosystem took this

705
00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:20,000
Speaker 1: as evidence that Antifa and BLM were both part of

706
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Speaker 1: some shadowy, organized plot to overthrow the United States government.

707
00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:27,200
Speaker 1: The reality is that anti fascist activism and the goals

708
00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:29,920
Speaker 1: of Black Lives Matter have always been deeply tied. As

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Speaker 1: Max Smith attests, does that mean I'm part of an

710
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Speaker 1: Antifa group? No am, I an anti ati fascist? Absolutely,

711
00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:39,480
Speaker 1: because how how can you not be right that? Only

712
00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:42,560
Speaker 1: that only makes sense? Um, And so I think it's

713
00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:45,400
Speaker 1: it's it's again one of those things that gets like

714
00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:48,880
Speaker 1: thrown into the media as a buzzword that doesn't actually

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Speaker 1: mean anything, and that's only doubled down on by like

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Speaker 1: our president and people like that who just continue to

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00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:58,840
Speaker 1: use war as they don't understand because they think that

718
00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:04,440
Speaker 1: they're explosive when in reality, in reality, the Antifa guys,

719
00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:07,399
Speaker 1: you know, the Antifa, the Rose the City Antifa or whatever,

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00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:09,719
Speaker 1: are really like a bunch of like guys that I

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00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:12,439
Speaker 1: do like research and stuff for the most part, again

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00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:16,799
Speaker 1: US information. I've long used contacts to get like information

723
00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:19,680
Speaker 1: like who is this gang? Who you know, what is

724
00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:22,879
Speaker 1: this tattoo on this white supremacis I've been seeing over here?

725
00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:25,840
Speaker 1: That's really what I've used them for. Um, you know

726
00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:28,480
Speaker 1: the people that I know that identify as Antifa. But

727
00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:31,160
Speaker 1: other than that, I mean, it's it's it's just an ideology.

728
00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:35,080
Speaker 1: So it's it's weird to see people ask questions like

729
00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:37,600
Speaker 1: are you Antifa? And I'm like, what does that mean?

730
00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:41,920
Speaker 1: Or is BLM has been taken over by Antifa? And

731
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:44,600
Speaker 1: BLM even is one of those statements that again kind

732
00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:47,440
Speaker 1: of like Antifa, it doesn't actually mean anything. You know,

733
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Speaker 1: there's no a Black Lives Matter a chapter here, like

734
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Speaker 1: like national chapter here that I'm aware of. And people

735
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Speaker 1: always say, you know, like this stuff takes away from

736
00:42:58,160 --> 00:43:00,400
Speaker 1: the spirit of a Black Lives Matter. But then they

737
00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:02,600
Speaker 1: also turn around and say a Black Lives Matter as

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Speaker 1: a Marxist organization run by you know, the g B

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Speaker 1: t Q so and say that it's itself is you know,

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Speaker 1: is a swoop. So there seems like there's like a

741
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Speaker 1: lot of things, and people have their ideas about these

742
00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:18,600
Speaker 1: factions or groups or whatever, but in reality, these people

743
00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:20,680
Speaker 1: aren't a part of any of that. We, I mean,

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00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:23,800
Speaker 1: most of us are not a part of any actual

745
00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:27,120
Speaker 1: a group of anything. We're just out here, you know,

746
00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:30,359
Speaker 1: fighting for our rights and for the rights of our

747
00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:36,240
Speaker 1: of our friends and neighbors. So all those labels are

748
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:40,200
Speaker 1: are kind of funny, like, you know, we're not in

749
00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:43,080
Speaker 1: a gang. We aren't the Proud Boys or the Patriot Prayers.

750
00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:46,239
Speaker 1: They all have their names and clicks and groups and

751
00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:49,080
Speaker 1: and and and and and nonprofits and all that. That's

752
00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:51,920
Speaker 1: not really our thing. So I think that they have

753
00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:55,080
Speaker 1: a hard time. I think that people have a hard

754
00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:58,040
Speaker 1: time processing that. In general, that's not the way that

755
00:43:58,120 --> 00:44:00,560
Speaker 1: we're trained to think. We're kind of training to think

756
00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:05,080
Speaker 1: in the in the in the way of of clicks

757
00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:06,880
Speaker 1: and groups and brands. You know, it's all about the

758
00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:09,560
Speaker 1: branding and how are you branded and do you wear

759
00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:11,719
Speaker 1: matching outfits and that kind of stuff. So people just

760
00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:14,759
Speaker 1: see black block and they see a brand, and then

761
00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:17,719
Speaker 1: they hear Antifa and they think of a brand, and

762
00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:19,239
Speaker 1: then they just put it all together and they have

763
00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:21,440
Speaker 1: this idea in their heads, but it's it's just not

764
00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:25,280
Speaker 1: based in reality. Crim Brule also had some complicated thoughts

765
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Speaker 1: on the intersection of anti fascism in the Black Lives

766
00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:32,440
Speaker 1: Matter movement. Um, it's complicated in the source of a

767
00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:37,400
Speaker 1: lot of tention, uh for sure in the city right

768
00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:41,280
Speaker 1: now and kind of throughout this entire thing, um, because

769
00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:48,239
Speaker 1: you do have you know, marches and actions that claims

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Speaker 1: be you know, black Lives matter when a lot of

771
00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:56,240
Speaker 1: the people there um are there for like quote unquote

772
00:44:56,280 --> 00:45:02,040
Speaker 1: anti fascists, for purely anti copias and um. And it's

773
00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:07,880
Speaker 1: hard because you need bodies. But I don't know, because

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00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:10,880
Speaker 1: that's like that's some like person or days thinking. I

775
00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:14,040
Speaker 1: feel like I know, Um, I feel like there's a

776
00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:18,080
Speaker 1: lot we've learned about that and about I think direct

777
00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:21,680
Speaker 1: action in general and protests in general. I think it

778
00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:25,800
Speaker 1: actually is extremely important now. It's always ext really important,

779
00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:28,120
Speaker 1: but now I think it's ext really important, and a

780
00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:31,680
Speaker 1: lot of people are more aware of that disirect action

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00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:37,719
Speaker 1: or the protest or like the mutual aid UH reach out,

782
00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:43,480
Speaker 1: I don't know has a defined like role or defines

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Speaker 1: like this is you know Antibaptist, Marxist, is black lives

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Speaker 1: matter d A, this is you know anti cop sweep

785
00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:54,279
Speaker 1: or whatever. I don't think it has to be you

786
00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:59,000
Speaker 1: know that always spelled out, but it needs to be

787
00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:01,600
Speaker 1: clear and then needs to be you know, leadership in

788
00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:05,880
Speaker 1: position that no examin role. And you know, like I

789
00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:09,280
Speaker 1: said earlier, kind of that like thinking we need numbers

790
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Speaker 1: of personality person a days and it kind of is

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Speaker 1: that there's yea, as you kind of learned, bigger d

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Speaker 1: A and bigger actions. When she gets out of the

793
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Speaker 1: tay wires, it's gonna be chaotic because there are so

794
00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:28,440
Speaker 1: many people there who maybe they're there for the right reasons,

795
00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:31,279
Speaker 1: but they're not like on the same page. And when

796
00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:34,239
Speaker 1: everyone's not on the same age, and it's really hard

797
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Speaker 1: for actually or effective and it's really easy people get sUAS.

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00:46:38,680 --> 00:46:44,440
Speaker 1: So like, yeah, smaller working sides and more focused now

799
00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:48,920
Speaker 1: just talking about strategy, um, but with the with the

800
00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:53,319
Speaker 1: focus is important and you know, all these all these

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00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:56,560
Speaker 1: things I guess in terms of the relationship between I

802
00:46:56,560 --> 00:47:01,520
Speaker 1: guess those two things. My perspective is black liberations, liberation

803
00:47:01,640 --> 00:47:08,280
Speaker 1: for everybody, and I guess from our perspective, the goal

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00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:13,320
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's gold, but the the through

805
00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:18,880
Speaker 1: line from me personally is black lives matter, at least

806
00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:26,640
Speaker 1: like from a looking at it linearly standpoint. If if

807
00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:30,200
Speaker 1: we really are considering black lives matter, if we get

808
00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:34,040
Speaker 1: a point in our country where black lives are mattering,

809
00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:37,799
Speaker 1: then there will probably be less bashists or we will

810
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Speaker 1: have done something, you know what I mean. If the

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Speaker 1: entire country is like black that's a country where at

812
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Speaker 1: least bashists aren't in government, and that's a country where

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Speaker 1: at least, um there's probably, if not abolished, police less

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Speaker 1: police presidents or police starts spect black people, and police

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Speaker 1: sent their spect black people. Clearly at least they're sec

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Speaker 1: black people. They respect everybody. So for me through line

817
00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:08,360
Speaker 1: and like that's also an evidence. But that's what started

818
00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:12,440
Speaker 1: all this um is black eyes than matter. And I

819
00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:17,680
Speaker 1: don't know, I'm not happy there's like self actions or

820
00:48:18,239 --> 00:48:22,080
Speaker 1: there's kind of these multiple ideas existing within a movement

821
00:48:22,120 --> 00:48:25,040
Speaker 1: about the goals, but that is the reality of the

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Speaker 1: we live in. And I can only work together because

823
00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:35,040
Speaker 1: we do all have common roles. Um. Yeah. The actual

824
00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:38,000
Speaker 1: nuance in the discussion was lost in the national reaction

825
00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:41,240
Speaker 1: to Jay Danielson's death. As soon as Michael Ryanald admitted

826
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Speaker 1: to the shooting, claiming self defense and a Vice video,

827
00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:47,200
Speaker 1: a man hunt ensued to bring him down. The U. S.

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Speaker 1: Marshals caught him in early September, and Michael was gunned

829
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Speaker 1: down near where he'd been hiding in Washington. Initial reports

830
00:48:53,680 --> 00:48:56,800
Speaker 1: spoke of an exchange of gunfire, but later evidence revealed

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Speaker 1: that Michael had not fired while officers shot dozens of

832
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Speaker 1: times at the vehicle he was in. In mid October,

833
00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:06,040
Speaker 1: at a campaign rally ahead of the November election, President

834
00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:08,520
Speaker 1: Trump bragged that he had used the U. S. Marshals

835
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Speaker 1: as more or less a death squad, saying we sent

836
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Speaker 1: in the U. S. Marshals to fifteen minutes. It was

837
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Speaker 1: over fifteen minutes, it was home. We got him. They

838
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Speaker 1: knew who he was and didn't want to arrest him

839
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Speaker 1: in fifteen minutes at ended anywhile, but then they called

840
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Speaker 1: themselves peaceful proc right wing rallies and violence would continue

841
00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:34,960
Speaker 1: throughout the remainder of the year. It was, however, notably

842
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Speaker 1: lower key than it had been before. Several hundred Proud

843
00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:40,920
Speaker 1: Boys rallied on the weekend of September twenty six, but

844
00:49:41,040 --> 00:49:44,200
Speaker 1: both sides were kept largely apart. Less than a week

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Speaker 1: before the event, Eugene ANTIFA had released a set of

846
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Speaker 1: leaked chat logs from a group called Patriot Coalition who

847
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Speaker 1: would help plan events on August as well. The chats,

848
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Speaker 1: which I reported on alongside Jason Wilson for Bellancat and

849
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Speaker 1: the UK Guardian, included threats to shoot members of the

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Speaker 1: a c l U and legal observers, as well as

851
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Speaker 1: embryonic plans to kidnap the governor of Oregon over the

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Speaker 1: state's COVID nineteen lockdown. The governor convened a press conference

853
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Speaker 1: after these reports and threatened to use the state's long

854
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Speaker 1: dormant anti paramilitary laws if there was mass violence by

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Speaker 1: the Proud Boys. On September, police kept anti fascists and

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