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Speaker 3: What is it?

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Speaker 2: Your backpack?

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Speaker 3: Let me actually break that down. So you know, Sean

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Speaker 3: We don't have to get doing that like young blood thing.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm gonna roll on the Okay, can you hear

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Speaker 2: Be That's absolutely not the nicest way that you could

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Speaker 2: But this is not what we're doing, Like I don't,

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Speaker 2: Kevin say that to me, it's honestly an entirely different problem,

444
00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:45,760
Speaker 2: and so like that that will escalate things in a

445
00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:48,600
Speaker 2: way that none of us here should be comfortable with.

446
00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:55,320
Speaker 2: You're too serious, man, Like I I don't think, I

447
00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:56,719
Speaker 2: like like this.

448
00:23:56,880 --> 00:23:59,400
Speaker 3: You shut the fuck up, man, Like, come on, it's

449
00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:02,639
Speaker 3: like we're killing man, we're filling out line with our friends.

450
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Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't I don't get it. I

451
00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:07,919
Speaker 2: don't know what. I don't know why people are calling you.

452
00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:10,160
Speaker 2: I have all started talking like so I.

453
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Speaker 3: We're fucking truy to shut the fuck up, dude, We're

454
00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:15,520
Speaker 3: just fucking with you, man, Yeah, man sell POV.

455
00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:18,840
Speaker 2: So uh has nothing to do with POV.

456
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Speaker 1: Let's just get into it, okay, And I'm and I'm

457
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Speaker 1: ready a country divided America. What goes up must come down,

458
00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:32,600
Speaker 1: at least, that's what I think, and what goes in

459
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Speaker 1: must come out. And talking of course today about food,

460
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Speaker 1: bang Roger Man, you're a thirty second starts.

461
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Speaker 3: Now we'll all tell you about food. I just eat

462
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Speaker 3: myself a whole miss a beans.

463
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Speaker 4: Hell.

464
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Speaker 2: I didn't have any beads myself either.

465
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Speaker 1: I can't agree with you on that what I can't

466
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Speaker 1: agree on is roosted a mershmellow right.

467
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Speaker 2: Here on this old TV set. At least that's what

468
00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:10,760
Speaker 2: I call it, me the Cowboy.

469
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Speaker 3: Yeah, we're lucky too. It's not on the French.

470
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Speaker 2: No receptions Crystal Clear tonight.

471
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Speaker 1: It's just one of those nights when the programming powers

472
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Speaker 1: that be lined up just to killer set a back

473
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Speaker 1: to back hits.

474
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Speaker 3: Late night stuff with all them titillating embers.

475
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Speaker 2: Am I paying for a premium channel?

476
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Speaker 1: Because I do declare I see the outline of one

477
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Speaker 1: hot seed there?

478
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Speaker 3: Yeh, it ain't your daddy's Cowboy TV. It's not family that.

479
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Speaker 2: I know. It's sure, it's sure. Uh so you finished?

480
00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:07,800
Speaker 2: You actually you you are?

481
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Speaker 1: Actually that's the food segment. Yeah, that is the food. Okay,

482
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Speaker 1: beans are marshmallows, you know, and the country can agree.

483
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Speaker 3: Okay, so one guy's beans, one guy's marshmallow.

484
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll say the obvious, like it is Cowboy TV.

485
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Speaker 2: It's the exact same show. There was a very brief

486
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Speaker 2: introduction where you told Sang that he that his thirty

487
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Speaker 2: seconds started now, and then he just said, we're.

488
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Speaker 3: Not married to that.

489
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Speaker 2: We're not married to that intro.

490
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Speaker 1: The intro might okay, okay, more for you, because.

491
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Speaker 2: Okay, I don't. I definitely didn't need the intro. The

492
00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:50,359
Speaker 2: intro didn't work for me at all either, Let's lose it.

493
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Speaker 2: We didn't want to do it, scrap it. It was

494
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Speaker 2: kind of just everything everything else that's there. Also, I'm

495
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Speaker 2: on record is saying it is working because it is

496
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Speaker 2: Cowboy TV. It is the exact same show. It has

497
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Speaker 2: nothing to do. There was no real I just called

498
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Speaker 2: the country divide it. There is no debate in it

499
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Speaker 2: at all. It was just like the first thing ban

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Speaker 2: yeah beans, but he just ate a whole said he

501
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Speaker 2: ate a whole mist beans. It was the first thing

502
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Speaker 2: you said. I cannot imagine. That's what that that's what's

503
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Speaker 2: on the paper.

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Speaker 3: That is Yeah, that's Mista beans says I had a

505
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Speaker 3: whole mist to beans.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and mine says the same thing.

507
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Speaker 3: And the bread's it's on bread script. It's like part

508
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Speaker 3: of what queues up some like we're all looking at

509
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Speaker 3: the air pull it up like I'm not, we're not

510
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Speaker 3: fucking round check and like.

511
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Speaker 1: Mine looks like it says mystic beans, but you know,

512
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Speaker 1: my chicken scratch. I wouldn't be surprised.

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Speaker 2: You wrote it down.

514
00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:58,560
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, I set the script all these guys and

515
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Speaker 3: I said write it in Longhand because I want you

516
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Speaker 3: know their spin.

517
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Speaker 1: There's something of a homespun folks feel, you know, it's

518
00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:06,520
Speaker 1: so much of it. I mean, that's one of the

519
00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:08,520
Speaker 1: things we debate on the show is how the world

520
00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:12,680
Speaker 1: had becomes so automated and so a reliance on technology. Yes,

521
00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:15,720
Speaker 1: it's you know, it's a good thing. I guess this advancement,

522
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Speaker 1: but is it actually pushing us back?

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Speaker 3: And you know, so you you have God's antenna, you

524
00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:24,920
Speaker 3: have pitched this other place?

525
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Speaker 2: Is that a pen? You have pitched this other places?

526
00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:33,000
Speaker 2: You tell them, you tell them it's the show called

527
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Speaker 2: A Country Divided, and that it's about a debate between

528
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Speaker 2: like the big issues that the country is facing. And

529
00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:44,680
Speaker 2: then you start Brett's there. You play the sound of

530
00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:48,160
Speaker 2: a fire, Brett plays the guitar, and then the two

531
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Speaker 2: of you pretend to be cowboys who are watching a

532
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Speaker 2: fire and comparing it to TV what has been what

533
00:28:55,840 --> 00:29:01,040
Speaker 2: has been the reaction? A little other there's sat here

534
00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:08,320
Speaker 2: that is the entire concept that is sometimes not even that.

535
00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:11,719
Speaker 2: Sometimes it's not like like sometimes it's not even focused

536
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Speaker 2: on the fire stuff.

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Speaker 3: It's you're generalizing. Now there's a there's a hint of that, yes,

538
00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:20,320
Speaker 3: like you know we have our signature on it.

539
00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:25,000
Speaker 2: Fault for finding that element. I mean, it's not it's

540
00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:27,760
Speaker 2: what kind of reactions I would so love to know

541
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Speaker 2: because so far I'm the only person. I can't even

542
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Speaker 2: talk about this to people because like no one it's

543
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Speaker 2: it's not interesting to hear secondhand that I was like

544
00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:41,760
Speaker 2: I had to sit through this show. Now this is

545
00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:43,560
Speaker 2: like the fifth or sixth time that we've done this

546
00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:47,360
Speaker 2: where the two of you pretend to be cowboys who

547
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Speaker 2: either friends.

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Speaker 3: Man, if you ever have a script you want to

549
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Speaker 3: send my way and get my thoughts on it, like

550
00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:53,760
Speaker 3: feel free?

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Speaker 2: What I want to like, sorry, get you back, like

552
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Speaker 2: I'm taking too opinion to get to what I would

553
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Speaker 2: so death I'm so desperate to hear is what kinds

554
00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:07,080
Speaker 2: of reactions other people are giving you when you do

555
00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:12,800
Speaker 2: this to them? Is that a cat? Okay? Perfect? The idea.

556
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Speaker 2: I would love to get in touch with these people.

557
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Speaker 2: I would love to like discuss with them the experience

558
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Speaker 2: of like hearing this.

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Speaker 1: Unsurprisingly, if you've been to one of these pitch meetings,

560
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Speaker 1: we've been to a few. Now, the room usually had

561
00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:29,680
Speaker 1: you know, has quite a few people in it. Yeah,

562
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Speaker 1: little cat, we do a cat's or why do you

563
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Speaker 1: have the what is cats? Because that's something people, you know,

564
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Speaker 1: we'll get into.

565
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Speaker 2: We do a cat's versus dogs?

566
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Speaker 3: We do in fact, yeah, maybe we'll say that for

567
00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:45,640
Speaker 3: another future segment, but that one gets pretty heated. I

568
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Speaker 3: got I mean to unwind after some of those.

569
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Speaker 2: Cats verse dogs.

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Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, but uh, you know, it's usually there's a

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Speaker 1: you know a few people in these pitch meetings, you know,

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Speaker 1: number of these executives will show up, and irony has

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Speaker 1: been in terms of pitching a country divided. I feel

574
00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:10,120
Speaker 1: like it's always you know, a room full of suits divided.

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00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:15,960
Speaker 1: Some people really get it, love it, you know. Yeah,

576
00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:21,920
Speaker 1: there's always some detractor, someone saying, you know, I disagreed

577
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Speaker 1: with the one guy. It's like you're supposed to disagree

578
00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:30,720
Speaker 1: with the one guy. That's the point. From time to time,

579
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Speaker 1: some people don't. Some people in the room say that

580
00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:37,760
Speaker 1: they don't like it because they disagree with.

581
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Speaker 2: One of the wowboys debate. There was no debate. There

582
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:44,360
Speaker 2: was not a debate happened. And I'm the two Cowboys

583
00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:45,360
Speaker 2: agreed the.

584
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Speaker 3: Two I'm a big enough man to admit frequently the

585
00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:56,720
Speaker 3: suits have more of a problem with my opinions, and

586
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Speaker 3: I honestly I wear that if the fucking suits dis

587
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Speaker 3: greul fine.

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Speaker 1: I feel like a sellout because sometimes they're going, like,

589
00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:07,080
Speaker 1: well someone what this guy was saying? You know, I

590
00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:08,760
Speaker 1: love a nice toasty marshmallow.

591
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Speaker 3: And I'm like, yeah, well that's I'm like, Shawn, we

592
00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:15,120
Speaker 3: drive away. I'm like, Sean, you had a real good

593
00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:16,720
Speaker 3: time with your friends in there, those foots.

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00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:20,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I I tell him, I go, I go,

595
00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:22,520
Speaker 1: Will you shut the fuck up?

596
00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:24,960
Speaker 2: You fucking cloud laugh.

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00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:30,800
Speaker 1: Okay, So it has fitned each other. When we pitch

598
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Speaker 1: done with that, we're not done pitching it. I mean

599
00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:37,360
Speaker 1: this stuff takes months. And again, like I think there's

600
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Speaker 1: we have some supporters in the room. You know, they're

601
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Speaker 1: not always the highest ranking people there.

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Speaker 5: This week on the pro version, the boys work on

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Speaker 5: page two for the script of bar Bra Bush.

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Speaker 2: So this is audience member number two. As we recall,

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Speaker 2: audience member number one was Bane who tripped over the

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Speaker 2: microphone disconnected.

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Speaker 1: It should this be Wayne, This should be Wayne Baine

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Speaker 1: and Wayne mm hmm w.

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Speaker 2: A n e.

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Speaker 1: Sort of like a Warrio wallaweg Yeah version of Baine,

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Speaker 1: Wayne Boose, Wayne.

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Speaker 2: Bos Wayne, Okay, keep going Mark. Mark looks around for

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Speaker 2: the person who yelled.

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Speaker 5: He finds him a mid sixties.

615
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Speaker 2: Biker, Wayne, mid sixties biker. If I'm a biker, I

616
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Speaker 2: want a zero to one hundred spiker.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, if he's biking a real biker, he'd be zero

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Speaker 1: to one hundreds or she. Yeah, I'm not against Wayne

619
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Speaker 1: being a woman maybe Yeah stands for women by Wayne

620
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Speaker 1: woman Wade.

621
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Speaker 5: Check out the pro version the Flagrant Ones.

622
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Speaker 2: Carl calls his cousin.

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Speaker 5: And the video for today's episode with Bang and Brett

624
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Speaker 5: at patreon dot com slash the Flaker once.

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Speaker 2: Is there more to it that? I mean?

626
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Speaker 1: Like again, like and I did have a problem. Yeah,

627
00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:14,280
Speaker 1: there's more to it. We just said we do cats

628
00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:18,080
Speaker 1: and dogs. We talk about misinformation, right, We talk about

629
00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:21,000
Speaker 1: all kinds of different things. The backpack thing was just

630
00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:25,440
Speaker 1: an example. Get off it. You're so stuffed, you like

631
00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:28,880
Speaker 1: haven't moved out since God, and this sucks.

632
00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:31,919
Speaker 3: Like you get this beautiful moment, it's like I'm gonna

633
00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:33,640
Speaker 3: roll with it, and sometimes it bites you in the

634
00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:37,200
Speaker 3: ass because like, right, Hayes can't fucking see pass being.

635
00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:39,440
Speaker 1: Able to go with the flow and incorporate what's happening

636
00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:42,240
Speaker 1: in real time and go like, hey, this is real life,

637
00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:45,640
Speaker 1: like we see it all the time. And then it

638
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:48,640
Speaker 1: just sticks in Hayes's mind in this way where he's

639
00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:51,640
Speaker 1: not actually like watching or listening to the show, which

640
00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:56,080
Speaker 1: is a great like a hate topic show.

641
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Speaker 3: Do you hate John Williams because Superman themes kind of

642
00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:03,880
Speaker 3: like the Star Wars theme, Like, because I feel like

643
00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:07,520
Speaker 3: you just can't get over our signature sound, right.

644
00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:09,960
Speaker 1: I think you're coming at it with so much baggage

645
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:11,280
Speaker 1: because we did once.

646
00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:14,919
Speaker 2: Upon a time. So your signature Cowboy TV is too.

647
00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:18,759
Speaker 2: Is the is the voice that you do, which is

648
00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:22,160
Speaker 2: like a kind of a sort of a cowboy voice

649
00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:26,440
Speaker 2: where they're watching you're putting that on it. But go ahead,

650
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:32,880
Speaker 2: there's much you you named it Cowboy TV. It's and

651
00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:35,560
Speaker 2: it's the same voice that Country Divide.

652
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Speaker 3: It's a country divided, let's just straight y.

653
00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:42,720
Speaker 2: So this is just like what what I'm to accept

654
00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:44,600
Speaker 2: at this point when you come to me and tell

655
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Speaker 2: me you want to pitch something else that no matter

656
00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:50,840
Speaker 2: what the signature aspect of it is going to be

657
00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:56,120
Speaker 2: two cowboys watching a fire and comparing it.

658
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Speaker 3: To me, what yo, man, when you watch? Are you

659
00:35:59,880 --> 00:36:03,440
Speaker 3: like your man? Sam Malone is the mayor? Now like,

660
00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:03,799
Speaker 3: can you.

661
00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:08,560
Speaker 1: How you become mister mayor? Sam Malone's he's playing a

662
00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:14,480
Speaker 1: different character. He's not like exactly yes, wow, hey, wait

663
00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:16,359
Speaker 1: a minute, he does fucking get it.

664
00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:18,600
Speaker 3: Okay, we've made a breakthrough.

665
00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:22,920
Speaker 2: Yes, at last. What's different? You just have to walk it.

666
00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:25,560
Speaker 2: Tell me about, give me about without doing the actual

667
00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:28,000
Speaker 2: show or whatever. Tell me about the backstory of these characters.

668
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:29,280
Speaker 2: It's different from the cow.

669
00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:30,440
Speaker 3: Let's do it.

670
00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:33,080
Speaker 2: We have we have a segment where go ahead, it's

671
00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:36,120
Speaker 2: a segment where you get a backstory of the characters. Great,

672
00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:36,799
Speaker 2: we got.

673
00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:39,480
Speaker 1: We want people to have an election to these We

674
00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:41,319
Speaker 1: don't want to be talking heads. We want them to

675
00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:43,640
Speaker 1: feel like they know these people who are in these

676
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:47,520
Speaker 1: very spirited conversations where they you know, they.

677
00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:51,799
Speaker 2: Each other.

678
00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:54,800
Speaker 3: They come from different backgrounds and they have different opinions,

679
00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:57,280
Speaker 3: and they're trying to represent the broad.

680
00:36:58,040 --> 00:36:59,680
Speaker 2: To this secment.

681
00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:02,480
Speaker 3: Do yeah, just shut the fuck up.

682
00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:05,480
Speaker 2: I'm not. That doesn't make me mad anymore. I feel

683
00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:08,120
Speaker 2: so sorry for all of you. There was a time

684
00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:09,320
Speaker 2: where that would make me upset.

685
00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:13,200
Speaker 1: Should we're doing the show, should we caught, I'm sorry,

686
00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:13,600
Speaker 1: but we have.

687
00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:14,120
Speaker 3: To be able to do it.

688
00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:23,880
Speaker 2: I'm starting. Go ahead, fella.

689
00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:26,839
Speaker 1: You know, who ever thought the two of us would

690
00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:32,440
Speaker 1: end up out here staring at the same old Cowboy TV.

691
00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:36,440
Speaker 3: We're back at Cowboy DV.

692
00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:40,560
Speaker 1: Me a good old boy from the disappearing West, and

693
00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:44,360
Speaker 1: you a Southern rancher used.

694
00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:47,560
Speaker 2: To roping steers when all I ever did was, uh,

695
00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:49,800
Speaker 2: you know, round up cattle.

696
00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:54,359
Speaker 3: And here we come together in front of this here fire.

697
00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:59,920
Speaker 1: And a bill and she boy, this is this fire

698
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:03,719
Speaker 1: about as fiery and has as many angry looking flames

699
00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:04,839
Speaker 1: as the.

700
00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:06,080
Speaker 2: Two of us do when.

701
00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:11,040
Speaker 1: We start talking about the two, three, four or a

702
00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:13,680
Speaker 1: dozen things that we don't see out of eye on.

703
00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:17,319
Speaker 3: Of course, one all right reminds me of me. Oh

704
00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:19,759
Speaker 3: you know what point of you means? Don't you?

705
00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:21,799
Speaker 2: Surely I do.

706
00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:25,160
Speaker 3: Sometimes I call a POV for short.

707
00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:30,359
Speaker 1: Well, I have to take umbrage with that, my good man.

708
00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:32,800
Speaker 1: I like to call it just peev.

709
00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:37,520
Speaker 3: Oh wow, you get that? That is.

710
00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:43,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, cowboys peev little joke. I like to make pass

711
00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:44,480
Speaker 1: me those beads.

712
00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:52,600
Speaker 3: Okay, here's a mister beans. Ah, look at them logs

713
00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:56,840
Speaker 3: kind of remind me of me and you. Huh. This

714
00:38:57,040 --> 00:39:00,120
Speaker 3: one log's got the fire burning up inside of it,

715
00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:04,399
Speaker 3: and this other all got the fire outside of it.

716
00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:09,040
Speaker 1: Hell, they're about as opposite as could be while still

717
00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:11,719
Speaker 1: being the same species and having to share this one

718
00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:16,680
Speaker 1: same fire. I'm glad we found some common ground looking at.

719
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:18,440
Speaker 2: The cowboy peebe.

720
00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:29,839
Speaker 3: Okay, the good I don't I don't mean to like

721
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:36,479
Speaker 3: pat ourselves on the back, but like its the same

722
00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:37,400
Speaker 3: as everything else it was.

723
00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:41,279
Speaker 1: There's a story, dude, doesn't make any sense. Shut up

724
00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:44,080
Speaker 1: for a second. There's this fucking story I in the

725
00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:46,840
Speaker 1: first one. I don't eat the beans.

726
00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:48,520
Speaker 2: M hmm.

727
00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:54,560
Speaker 1: Imagine a country where the guy, the fucking people now

728
00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:59,520
Speaker 1: like you who won't even try the beans right, get

729
00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:02,759
Speaker 1: a miss, have their friend now who they used to

730
00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:04,839
Speaker 1: disagree with, hand them the mister being.

731
00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:09,719
Speaker 2: Nobody is trackings. Nobody is tracking. This is a conflict,

732
00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:13,279
Speaker 2: the idea that you're nobody, the idea that it was

733
00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:16,360
Speaker 2: that everyone is like waiting to see whether.

734
00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:23,200
Speaker 3: You can barely say it conflict. You're like Robert Durst

735
00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:26,239
Speaker 3: confessing a murder man like you can't like you can't

736
00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:30,399
Speaker 3: even live yourself like that yea, and the idea that

737
00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:33,399
Speaker 3: when Kevin's busted out trailer moments left or right?

738
00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:37,920
Speaker 2: What I what I? What I do wanna st like?

739
00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:41,040
Speaker 2: Stopped at? Was was Bread playing Sultans of Swing at

740
00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:47,960
Speaker 2: one point? H sound your signature sound like Sultans of Swing.

741
00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:49,520
Speaker 2: The guy's got a signature sound.

742
00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:51,640
Speaker 4: There's Twitter's twelve notes?

743
00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:54,960
Speaker 2: Is that part of it? Where?

744
00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:55,160
Speaker 1: Like?

745
00:40:55,719 --> 00:40:59,000
Speaker 3: Yeah? Because their country?

746
00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:01,359
Speaker 2: How connected you go?

747
00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:02,280
Speaker 4: Connections?

748
00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:04,320
Speaker 2: How is that going to happen to that song?

749
00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:08,719
Speaker 1: How is that although the country's in dire straits, we

750
00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:10,520
Speaker 1: all have to do that walk of life?

751
00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:14,680
Speaker 2: Right? That's a different song. I know it's all the

752
00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:19,359
Speaker 2: same song, just twelve notes. It's a different song. So

753
00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:22,400
Speaker 2: how so how is that connected? Is the idea that.

754
00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:25,560
Speaker 1: It's like, yo, let's move on man, okay, let's deal

755
00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:29,799
Speaker 1: with something else you mentioned, like guitar You mentioned guitar George, Like,

756
00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:32,560
Speaker 1: is that check out guitar George? He knows all the chords.

757
00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:35,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, Harry doesn't mind.

758
00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:41,520
Speaker 2: Check out guitar George. It just seems unrelated. I just

759
00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:45,040
Speaker 2: bring up because it was it was something new Brett

760
00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:51,319
Speaker 2: like suddenly playing. So that's that's that's not normally an

761
00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:53,480
Speaker 2: aspect of Cowboy TV as I've heard, which, by the way,

762
00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:56,800
Speaker 2: both of you said it was Cowboy TV multiple times

763
00:41:56,920 --> 00:41:59,320
Speaker 2: in the thing, both both of your characters.

764
00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:00,839
Speaker 3: There was a touch of that.

765
00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:05,440
Speaker 2: We're saying this is in fact you said it was

766
00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:11,000
Speaker 2: the same old Cowboy TV. HM, the same one one.

767
00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:13,880
Speaker 1: Of the we were both looking at the same one. No,

768
00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:16,479
Speaker 1: you said the same I'm establishing. Yes, they were both

769
00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:19,200
Speaker 1: the two of us staring at at the same at

770
00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:21,919
Speaker 1: the same old Cowboy TV. You know, although we come

771
00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:26,040
Speaker 1: from totally different backgrounds, uh, not two people you would

772
00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:29,120
Speaker 1: ever expect to see that them, let alone on the

773
00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:31,400
Speaker 1: same you know, wild pastor.

774
00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:35,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, the different backgrounds are the guy from the Disappearing

775
00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:44,080
Speaker 2: West who's used to wrangling cattle and Southern ranchers used

776
00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:47,480
Speaker 2: to roping steers. What's the difference between roping steers? And

777
00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:50,960
Speaker 2: we have a segment, We have a whole segment.

778
00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:54,680
Speaker 1: I don't want to hear remember the circle, don't Well,

779
00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:56,839
Speaker 1: you asked, so I thought you might.

780
00:42:56,920 --> 00:42:58,640
Speaker 2: I don't. Yeah, I just wanted to hear an answer

781
00:42:58,680 --> 00:42:59,000
Speaker 2: the question.

782
00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:01,120
Speaker 1: I actually don't want to entire give it to you

783
00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:03,719
Speaker 1: because it's you won't get it.

784
00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:09,040
Speaker 3: You see, I mean the old guitaris a he can afford.

785
00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:09,960
Speaker 2: Mm hmm.

786
00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:13,680
Speaker 4: I like this.

787
00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:15,720
Speaker 2: This is why I was kind of like drawn to it.

788
00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:19,120
Speaker 2: It's one of my favorite songs, and so I thought like, oh,

789
00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:21,279
Speaker 2: this is like kind of a nice thing. But it's

790
00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:26,040
Speaker 2: just like he could play the whole guitar like anything, right.

791
00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:28,120
Speaker 3: And you didn't think it fit in Like to me,

792
00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:31,840
Speaker 3: it was spot on. It was the song. It was

793
00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:33,040
Speaker 3: the cherry on top.

794
00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:36,440
Speaker 2: The song tells a story, I think, a really captivating

795
00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:40,640
Speaker 2: story about like kind of discoveries coming out of the

796
00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:45,040
Speaker 2: rain and you hear this jazz band, uh and you know,

797
00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:48,719
Speaker 2: like you come upon this community that's been performing like

798
00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:50,080
Speaker 2: this for a long time, like and.

799
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:53,239
Speaker 3: That song welcome really to the twenty first century man

800
00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:53,759
Speaker 3: like we.

801
00:43:53,760 --> 00:44:00,520
Speaker 2: I actually find it like incredibly insulting to what is

802
00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:04,759
Speaker 2: a really beautiful song. Okay, that it would even that

803
00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:11,359
Speaker 2: it would even be like played alongside something as just

804
00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:14,399
Speaker 2: like intellectually bankrupt as Cowboy TV.

805
00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:18,280
Speaker 1: I would think, Hayes, at this point, at this point

806
00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:20,600
Speaker 1: in our collaboration and how long you've known all of

807
00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:25,160
Speaker 1: us involved, that you would be able to excite.

808
00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:28,439
Speaker 2: The cause to collaboration. Nothing I've ever pitched has been

809
00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:32,239
Speaker 2: implemented in this in this project, we've worked on the

810
00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:33,680
Speaker 2: other So let me get this straight.

811
00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:36,600
Speaker 1: The Cowboy TV, I like, I would hope you can

812
00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:39,480
Speaker 1: be excited that we're excited. I would hope that you

813
00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:43,160
Speaker 1: could feel that there is some real momentum behind this

814
00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:48,800
Speaker 1: and that you could put aside your enormous fucking ego

815
00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:53,120
Speaker 1: that is the size of the Titanic which sank, by

816
00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:58,279
Speaker 1: the way, no coincidence, uh, and actually just listen and

817
00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:00,520
Speaker 1: hear that we have found some thing.

818
00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:05,200
Speaker 3: Really good that works. I didn't want to period point.

819
00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:06,160
Speaker 2: I didn't want to.

820
00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:09,120
Speaker 3: Kind of bust this card out, but I'm gonna Every

821
00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:13,320
Speaker 3: time I've been to Hayes's house and he's throwing a party,

822
00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:15,560
Speaker 3: you know, one of the songs that comes on his

823
00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:19,839
Speaker 3: playlist every time all summer long by kid Rock, and

824
00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:22,759
Speaker 3: he fucking loves it and he thinks it's the best ship.

825
00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:24,399
Speaker 2: I don't. I don't, I don't, I don't. I don't

826
00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:26,440
Speaker 2: think that's like my favorite song or anything else.

827
00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:28,600
Speaker 3: Always on your playlist, man, you play a.

828
00:45:28,520 --> 00:45:31,239
Speaker 2: Certain type of party. I don't think it's my favorite song.

829
00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:34,960
Speaker 3: And guess what, man, kid Rock didn't invent that out

830
00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:42,120
Speaker 3: of thin air. A right, it's it's Worlds of London man. Yes, okay,

831
00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:46,040
Speaker 3: so we are taking something existing, Sultan's of Swing. Yes,

832
00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:48,160
Speaker 3: I know you like it, and I didn't realize you

833
00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:51,439
Speaker 3: had such a huge attachment to it. But like we're

834
00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:55,359
Speaker 3: weaving that into a news story and that's what being

835
00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:59,759
Speaker 3: an artist is all about, and artistical call.

836
00:46:02,080 --> 00:46:03,799
Speaker 2: I want to go back. I mean, like I just

837
00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:05,880
Speaker 2: I'll just sort of take this one by one. Like

838
00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:07,960
Speaker 2: the being excited for the two of you, the fact

839
00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:11,560
Speaker 2: that you are excited. I am so supportive of you

840
00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:15,680
Speaker 2: making this work somewhere like wherever you can't be. If

841
00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:19,600
Speaker 2: you have all these opportunities, then like then I really

842
00:46:19,719 --> 00:46:23,560
Speaker 2: encourage you to pursue them. What I think is actually

843
00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:26,440
Speaker 2: happening is that you're lying. You're lying about all of this.

844
00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:29,480
Speaker 2: You lied that this wasn't Cowboy TV. It is the

845
00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:33,600
Speaker 2: same the characters both say it's Cowboy TV, and you

846
00:46:33,719 --> 00:46:35,440
Speaker 2: promised me that it wasn't and then you had to

847
00:46:36,040 --> 00:46:40,160
Speaker 2: and then you scripted both the characters to say the Cowboys.

848
00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:41,279
Speaker 2: So you're not last.

849
00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:43,680
Speaker 1: This is so much like one of the debates we

850
00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:44,640
Speaker 1: would have on the show.

851
00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:48,480
Speaker 3: And you're you're to me, you're proving the point of

852
00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:50,359
Speaker 3: why we're even doing the show in the first place.

853
00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:55,680
Speaker 3: This is, like, it's so essential to our nation to

854
00:46:55,719 --> 00:46:58,440
Speaker 3: have a show like this because of exactly what you're enacting,

855
00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:01,520
Speaker 3: which is one side says you're lying, you know, that's

856
00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:04,160
Speaker 3: not what you think you're doing Cowboy TV. The other

857
00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:06,920
Speaker 3: side saying, yeah, some of the raw materials that make

858
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:09,560
Speaker 3: up the show or Cowboy TV, just like you know

859
00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:13,400
Speaker 3: you paint was used to create the Mona Lisa as

860
00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:14,080
Speaker 3: well as.

861
00:47:16,200 --> 00:47:24,279
Speaker 2: The diner and the house, his house. The I'm not

862
00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:27,160
Speaker 2: standing I'm not like stopping any of you from doing

863
00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:29,080
Speaker 2: this as a show like and I don't want to

864
00:47:29,120 --> 00:47:31,040
Speaker 2: stand in the way of that. If you want to

865
00:47:31,080 --> 00:47:33,000
Speaker 2: do this with all these like these places that you've

866
00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:36,520
Speaker 2: pitched it, the perspective partners that you have. I was

867
00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:39,920
Speaker 2: a little upset when I thought this was a completely

868
00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:42,520
Speaker 2: different concept and not the same thing that you've done

869
00:47:43,600 --> 00:47:47,719
Speaker 2: five times to me already. I was upset that you

870
00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:50,880
Speaker 2: had taken another places. Now I'm totally supportive. If you

871
00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:53,040
Speaker 2: can make it work somewhere else, please do that.

872
00:47:53,600 --> 00:47:57,040
Speaker 1: Ideally, because so much of our Cowboy TV ip has

873
00:47:57,160 --> 00:48:01,000
Speaker 1: been you know, sort of entangled because you know with

874
00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:04,560
Speaker 1: your I read the company and all of that.

875
00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:09,240
Speaker 2: I never wanted it. I never had any interest in it.

876
00:48:09,239 --> 00:48:10,959
Speaker 1: It's just a sticky contractual.

877
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:13,919
Speaker 2: It's not legally. I'm sure that we can work this out.

878
00:48:14,239 --> 00:48:17,560
Speaker 2: There's like I, I want no part of it whatsoever,

879
00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:23,560
Speaker 2: and I will sign any document to that effect. In fact,

880
00:48:23,600 --> 00:48:28,080
Speaker 2: I insist, and I would like documents drawn up to

881
00:48:28,120 --> 00:48:32,480
Speaker 2: saying that I have no ownership, no affiliation whatsoever, meet

882
00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:36,440
Speaker 2: no one in my family, like nobody is.

883
00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:38,719
Speaker 1: This division of the royalties and stuff.

884
00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:41,920
Speaker 2: Is I don't want to I want zero. I want

885
00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:43,640
Speaker 2: to be I want zero.

886
00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:47,279
Speaker 1: Well, I'm happy you're saying that, but the realities of

887
00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:50,440
Speaker 1: the legal system in our country are that it's it's going.

888
00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:52,640
Speaker 2: To be a very drawn out process. It's going to

889
00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:56,120
Speaker 2: be extremely painful. What if it's something that I just

890
00:48:56,160 --> 00:48:59,120
Speaker 2: like I never I just like I say, I never

891
00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:02,560
Speaker 2: knew about this, like I never hear about it. Again,

892
00:49:03,560 --> 00:49:05,960
Speaker 2: there must be a way that. Okay, so you went

893
00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:08,000
Speaker 2: to you pitch U to other places, even though you

894
00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:10,120
Speaker 2: seem to think that they can only happen.

895
00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:13,080
Speaker 1: That my old landing spot. But we did want to

896
00:49:13,120 --> 00:49:14,840
Speaker 1: generate competitive offers as well.

897
00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:18,560
Speaker 3: And honestly, I mean that taking this the wrong way

898
00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:22,760
Speaker 3: you you're insulted, but you should be honored. We didn't

899
00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:24,480
Speaker 3: go to you first because we wanted to work the

900
00:49:24,560 --> 00:49:27,040
Speaker 3: kinks out. We wanted to get this thing smooth that

901
00:49:27,160 --> 00:49:29,480
Speaker 3: we didn't want to embarrass ourselves in front of our

902
00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:30,720
Speaker 3: supposed friend.

903
00:49:31,600 --> 00:49:33,640
Speaker 1: A lot of those were practice pitches.

904
00:49:33,760 --> 00:49:35,279
Speaker 2: Yeah you're practicing for me.

905
00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:37,919
Speaker 3: Yeah, we didn't want to bring this thing to Pep

906
00:49:37,960 --> 00:49:40,719
Speaker 3: Boys like we like we were not.

907
00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:42,920
Speaker 1: A couple of different shingles. Yeah, we've been straight to

908
00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:47,160
Speaker 1: buyers and yeah, yeah, we're not.

909
00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:49,160
Speaker 2: Just like going to the phrase or like you did

910
00:49:49,200 --> 00:49:52,319
Speaker 2: actually pitch this at like we pitch this to the

911
00:49:52,320 --> 00:49:57,200
Speaker 2: guys at Pep Boys Automotive and for what for them

912
00:49:57,200 --> 00:49:59,640
Speaker 2: to do what with it? Maybe they wanted to get

913
00:49:59,640 --> 00:50:02,280
Speaker 2: into a new space and they were a little confused

914
00:50:02,280 --> 00:50:04,120
Speaker 2: about what they wanted to do with it as well.

915
00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:06,640
Speaker 1: That's a fair All these cars have TVs in them now,

916
00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:12,040
Speaker 1: No they don't, Oh god do damn dude, he d drive.

917
00:50:13,480 --> 00:50:16,879
Speaker 3: They just aren't off the city, dude getting a fucking car.

918
00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:17,720
Speaker 3: They got TV.

919
00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:21,160
Speaker 2: That's not take a hoverboard everywhere. It's not safe. It's

920
00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:24,560
Speaker 2: a screen. But it's not like a TV. Some cars,

921
00:50:25,080 --> 00:50:26,480
Speaker 2: some cars have TVs.

922
00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:28,000
Speaker 3: You're fucking decrepit.

923
00:50:29,239 --> 00:50:33,719
Speaker 2: And also pet Boys. Pep Boys doesn't make cars. Well

924
00:50:33,800 --> 00:50:34,840
Speaker 2: they did, but they adjust.

925
00:50:34,960 --> 00:50:37,759
Speaker 3: Cars are coming, but they don't like put TVs in them.

926
00:50:38,040 --> 00:50:42,480
Speaker 3: Actually it doesn't matter. They fucking passed, all right, you

927
00:50:42,600 --> 00:50:46,200
Speaker 3: got it out of us. Pep Boys isn't interested, all right,

928
00:50:46,239 --> 00:50:48,279
Speaker 3: But it was a it was a practice pitch, all right.

929
00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:50,560
Speaker 1: That was a practice pitch before this one, which is

930
00:50:50,600 --> 00:50:52,719
Speaker 1: going twice as good.

931
00:50:56,719 --> 00:51:01,640
Speaker 3: So like, bring whether we shoes. We're fucking juicing the

932
00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:05,200
Speaker 3: ship out of this one, and you're fucking like you're

933
00:51:05,200 --> 00:51:08,399
Speaker 3: getting thrown off by this fucking backpack, dud.

934
00:51:08,680 --> 00:51:11,560
Speaker 2: I haven't been even been thinking about the backpack.

935
00:51:12,520 --> 00:51:17,320
Speaker 3: You backpack for five minutes. We fucking nailed it. Kevin's

936
00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:20,680
Speaker 3: fucking popping out trailer moments left and fucking right.

937
00:51:21,160 --> 00:51:23,680
Speaker 2: Kevin can do whatever he wanted. Kevin is like working

938
00:51:24,160 --> 00:51:27,360
Speaker 2: like in all these other places without telling us already,

939
00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:31,640
Speaker 2: Like Kevin is welcome to run with this if I

940
00:51:31,640 --> 00:51:32,440
Speaker 2: if I could.

941
00:51:32,239 --> 00:51:34,719
Speaker 1: Just say, hey, is in terms of whether or not

942
00:51:34,760 --> 00:51:37,279
Speaker 1: we were able to generate competitive offers, we actually do

943
00:51:37,440 --> 00:51:42,399
Speaker 1: have there there are a few different places competing for

944
00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:45,279
Speaker 1: what you have expressed interest in, which is which is

945
00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:50,880
Speaker 1: divesting themselves from anything to do with the Cowboy TV brand,

946
00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:52,120
Speaker 1: and that that you.

947
00:51:52,040 --> 00:51:55,319
Speaker 2: Have pitched this and the offer that you're getting is like,

948
00:51:55,440 --> 00:51:59,040
Speaker 2: for ways, for the people that just heard the pitch,

949
00:51:59,120 --> 00:52:01,600
Speaker 2: that's not dissimilar. It's not the first. The reason I know.

950
00:52:03,080 --> 00:52:06,799
Speaker 1: Such a boondoggle, you know, to get you removed from it,

951
00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:09,040
Speaker 1: is that we have gone down that path a little

952
00:52:09,080 --> 00:52:11,440
Speaker 1: bit with some of our other partners. I know, you

953
00:52:11,520 --> 00:52:13,680
Speaker 1: never thought you owned a one hundred percent of Cowboy TV.

954
00:52:13,880 --> 00:52:17,000
Speaker 1: And we've sort of spread our shares around among some

955
00:52:17,040 --> 00:52:18,560
Speaker 1: other producers.

956
00:52:18,600 --> 00:52:20,640
Speaker 2: And and so when they.

957
00:52:20,560 --> 00:52:25,000
Speaker 3: Producers a darks like, yeah, we've been kind of selling

958
00:52:25,040 --> 00:52:25,960
Speaker 3: pieces and the.

959
00:52:26,360 --> 00:52:29,479
Speaker 2: Old shares of peeks of Cowboy TV.

960
00:52:30,200 --> 00:52:32,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think we should just all roll with this.

961
00:52:32,880 --> 00:52:38,600
Speaker 2: See where it goes, Like like just at you made

962
00:52:38,600 --> 00:52:42,520
Speaker 2: a T shirt, you made a mug. They both are

963
00:52:43,280 --> 00:52:46,600
Speaker 2: terrible products. They look like ship.

964
00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:48,879
Speaker 3: Okay, this is good stuff for the show.

965
00:52:49,200 --> 00:52:51,360
Speaker 2: This is great. I mean because I disagree with you,

966
00:52:51,440 --> 00:52:54,400
Speaker 2: but you know the show has nothing to do with it.

967
00:52:53,920 --> 00:52:54,960
Speaker 3: We can debate.

968
00:52:55,760 --> 00:52:59,480
Speaker 2: This is not this is not that could be shows

969
00:52:59,480 --> 00:53:04,000
Speaker 2: about Cowboy. It's wondering fire. It's the only thing that

970
00:53:04,040 --> 00:53:07,359
Speaker 2: the show is cowboys you want to talk about. It's

971
00:53:07,400 --> 00:53:09,480
Speaker 2: not a big show, it's not about it's not a

972
00:53:09,480 --> 00:53:10,120
Speaker 2: POV show.

973
00:53:10,360 --> 00:53:12,960
Speaker 3: Some people like a mug that has the logo.

974
00:53:13,120 --> 00:53:16,680
Speaker 1: It has nothing weird the center that you can't see

975
00:53:16,719 --> 00:53:17,239
Speaker 1: it when if the.

976
00:53:17,239 --> 00:53:20,759
Speaker 2: Cowboys talk about this, it's totally incidental to like that.

977
00:53:21,000 --> 00:53:21,960
Speaker 3: Some people.

978
00:53:23,400 --> 00:53:25,400
Speaker 2: TV that's the only thing that the show is the

979
00:53:25,480 --> 00:53:30,600
Speaker 2: two dogs that how does this? How does this practically?

980
00:53:31,400 --> 00:53:35,080
Speaker 2: Like like the idea that we're like that we are

981
00:53:35,360 --> 00:53:38,440
Speaker 2: moving forward with this? What does that mean? It's the

982
00:53:38,480 --> 00:53:41,120
Speaker 2: same thing every time you just you just come back

983
00:53:41,160 --> 00:53:44,000
Speaker 2: and you pitch it again. There's never anything bored to

984
00:53:44,080 --> 00:53:49,520
Speaker 2: it than that. How how? How? What is it? What

985
00:53:49,560 --> 00:53:49,960
Speaker 2: we need?

986
00:53:50,120 --> 00:53:52,720
Speaker 1: Obviously we need capital to grow the brand.

987
00:53:53,080 --> 00:53:56,799
Speaker 2: So you want money? You want money? You want you

988
00:53:56,880 --> 00:54:01,000
Speaker 2: want me to give you money for I don't know bank?

989
00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:03,080
Speaker 2: Should we debate that? Would you want money?

990
00:54:04,280 --> 00:54:09,040
Speaker 1: I could especially I'd like to adjust the mugs a

991
00:54:09,080 --> 00:54:09,520
Speaker 1: little bit.

992
00:54:10,760 --> 00:54:14,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, some people do like the mug logo on the mugs,

993
00:54:14,640 --> 00:54:18,200
Speaker 3: so that yees. Overwhelmingly most people like it in a.

994
00:54:18,160 --> 00:54:21,000
Speaker 1: Different spot is what we found, you know, and and

995
00:54:21,239 --> 00:54:23,840
Speaker 1: obviously our characters could debate that, and I think it

996
00:54:23,840 --> 00:54:26,960
Speaker 1: would make for a great episode. But right now, the

997
00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:28,960
Speaker 1: most pressing issue in the short term is just to

998
00:54:28,960 --> 00:54:31,240
Speaker 1: get the logo on the mug moved so that we can.

999
00:54:33,120 --> 00:54:35,480
Speaker 3: I would say the safest bed is to clear out

1000
00:54:35,560 --> 00:54:38,080
Speaker 3: your bank account, just to get room in there for

1001
00:54:38,120 --> 00:54:39,719
Speaker 3: all the money that's going to be coming in.

1002
00:54:40,120 --> 00:54:42,560
Speaker 2: How much, like, how much does it cost to move

1003
00:54:42,719 --> 00:54:47,919
Speaker 2: the the logo on the mug I need? Isn't it free? Rice?

1004
00:54:48,040 --> 00:54:50,160
Speaker 2: This guy? Isn't it just for numbers?

1005
00:54:50,280 --> 00:54:50,920
Speaker 3: Every time?

1006
00:54:51,719 --> 00:54:53,919
Speaker 2: You know, they don't like they don't make these things

1007
00:54:53,960 --> 00:54:56,839
Speaker 2: ahead of time. They just like when someone orders them.

1008
00:54:57,120 --> 00:54:58,360
Speaker 2: They remember you remember this?

1009
00:54:58,520 --> 00:55:04,240
Speaker 1: Hey, the the kitty you drew, it's a kitty. Actually, okay,

1010
00:55:06,360 --> 00:55:09,919
Speaker 1: it's worth so much a thirty.

1011
00:55:09,560 --> 00:55:11,880
Speaker 3: Hey, man, take a break, man, Sometimes you gotta take

1012
00:55:11,880 --> 00:55:15,040
Speaker 3: a vacation showing you can't work all the time. This

1013
00:55:15,120 --> 00:55:18,640
Speaker 3: guy's always making money, man, fucking he's busting out crypto kitties.

1014
00:55:18,719 --> 00:55:21,840
Speaker 2: This is a different pitch, right, No, But I'm just saying,

1015
00:55:22,080 --> 00:55:24,640
Speaker 2: like that he drew that, he drew it.

1016
00:55:25,280 --> 00:55:27,719
Speaker 3: He's making money even like when he doesn't have to.

1017
00:55:28,239 --> 00:55:29,879
Speaker 3: And you don't want to do business with this guy,

1018
00:55:31,600 --> 00:55:33,400
Speaker 3: you sure, what are your notes?

1019
00:55:33,480 --> 00:55:38,520
Speaker 2: How much is it costs to change the mugs? How

1020
00:55:38,600 --> 00:55:44,640
Speaker 2: much does it cost? Seven fifty seven fifty dollars?

1021
00:55:45,080 --> 00:55:46,400
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1022
00:55:46,480 --> 00:55:48,880
Speaker 2: Plus? And how how do we break that out like

1023
00:55:48,920 --> 00:55:50,000
Speaker 2: the cost of Like.

1024
00:55:52,040 --> 00:55:55,240
Speaker 6: Well, we came up with the mug, We got the mugs,

1025
00:55:55,280 --> 00:55:58,200
Speaker 6: we got the labor, and then we got the current

1026
00:55:58,239 --> 00:56:00,279
Speaker 6: mugs on the market who are also going to want

1027
00:56:00,320 --> 00:56:03,400
Speaker 6: to send them back to us and get them fixed.

1028
00:56:04,080 --> 00:56:06,960
Speaker 3: So we got to put that all together. When we

1029
00:56:07,000 --> 00:56:11,400
Speaker 3: got about seven hundred and fifty bucks plus plus labs labor.

1030
00:56:11,719 --> 00:56:20,160
Speaker 2: So plus labor, Yeah, that was you just included labor? No,

1031
00:56:20,280 --> 00:56:24,239
Speaker 2: I said, plus labor. No, I know you did. That's

1032
00:56:24,360 --> 00:56:25,520
Speaker 2: that's what I'm reacting to.

1033
00:56:25,719 --> 00:56:28,840
Speaker 3: There's very there's varying layers labor.

1034
00:56:29,040 --> 00:56:31,200
Speaker 1: We got the labor, we got the current mugs that

1035
00:56:31,239 --> 00:56:36,160
Speaker 1: are out there on the marget. So that's gonna be

1036
00:56:36,280 --> 00:56:39,520
Speaker 1: this to about. We got to adjust that. So that's

1037
00:56:39,719 --> 00:56:44,200
Speaker 1: you know, this is back of the next notes.

1038
00:56:44,719 --> 00:56:47,520
Speaker 3: Give us your notes, man, we're not like notes.

1039
00:56:47,840 --> 00:56:50,759
Speaker 2: You want to see that there's a cheaper way to

1040
00:56:50,800 --> 00:56:54,360
Speaker 2: do it. I want the quality of giving Cowboy TV.

1041
00:56:54,800 --> 00:56:57,439
Speaker 2: I'm not it's good. Great If none of my notes

1042
00:56:58,000 --> 00:57:03,760
Speaker 2: my notes have ever been incorporated. What it is true?

1043
00:57:04,080 --> 00:57:06,160
Speaker 2: It is true. It's the same as it always from

1044
00:57:06,200 --> 00:57:09,200
Speaker 2: when I first heard it. What's the exact same show?

1045
00:57:09,480 --> 00:57:12,040
Speaker 2: I cannot I cannot keep doing this.

1046
00:57:12,200 --> 00:57:15,320
Speaker 1: I can know we haven't taken we'll take it right now.

1047
00:57:17,720 --> 00:57:19,760
Speaker 2: I don't like I don't like Cowboy TV. I don't

1048
00:57:19,760 --> 00:57:20,160
Speaker 2: want it.

1049
00:57:20,520 --> 00:57:23,480
Speaker 1: Are you stop Cowboy TV?

1050
00:57:24,760 --> 00:57:26,800
Speaker 4: His note was he loved Sultans of Swing.

1051
00:57:27,080 --> 00:57:31,560
Speaker 2: Yes I did, Yeah, yeah, but I don't want it.

1052
00:57:31,720 --> 00:57:33,680
Speaker 2: But I don't want it, and I don't want to

1053
00:57:33,680 --> 00:57:36,240
Speaker 2: connected to Cowboy TV at all. I don't want any

1054
00:57:36,440 --> 00:57:42,040
Speaker 2: Like if you can find a way to incorporate Sultans

1055
00:57:42,040 --> 00:57:44,360
Speaker 2: of Swing in some way which you don't own, but

1056
00:57:44,600 --> 00:57:47,640
Speaker 2: like what you mean, that's something that I would be

1057
00:57:47,680 --> 00:57:49,960
Speaker 2: willing to put money behind it. A worthy project for

1058
00:57:50,040 --> 00:57:50,520
Speaker 2: that song.

1059
00:57:52,240 --> 00:57:55,640
Speaker 3: Well, I think we got one. Mm hmm. Maybe we

1060
00:57:55,640 --> 00:57:56,880
Speaker 3: should bust it out right now.

1061
00:57:57,680 --> 00:58:00,240
Speaker 2: Okay, it's gonna be. It's gonna be Cowboy T.

1062
00:58:01,800 --> 00:58:03,200
Speaker 3: You might be surprised.

1063
00:58:03,280 --> 00:58:06,160
Speaker 2: Okay, let's just hear it like it's that's what it's

1064
00:58:06,160 --> 00:58:11,160
Speaker 2: gonna be. It's always Cowboy TV. It never changes. It's

1065
00:58:11,200 --> 00:58:18,520
Speaker 2: the fire sound. It's that they're eating beans, they're eating mershmallows,

1066
00:58:19,760 --> 00:58:21,640
Speaker 2: they talk about the fire. They compare it to some

1067
00:58:21,760 --> 00:58:24,240
Speaker 2: kind of TV things. Sometimes I guess it's like porno

1068
00:58:24,440 --> 00:58:29,040
Speaker 2: this time. Sometimes it's like an action movie. Sometimes it's

1069
00:58:29,040 --> 00:58:35,440
Speaker 2: like a mystery show. Sometimes it's a kids show. I

1070
00:58:35,440 --> 00:58:37,560
Speaker 2: don't know if they. I mean, I feel like it's

1071
00:58:37,600 --> 00:58:40,040
Speaker 2: just kind of the the action movie and the mystery

1072
00:58:40,080 --> 00:58:42,360
Speaker 2: show over and over again, except this time there was

1073
00:58:42,400 --> 00:58:46,480
Speaker 2: the porn aspect of it. But it's just the same.

1074
00:58:46,520 --> 00:58:48,680
Speaker 2: It's the same every time. That's what this is gonna be.

1075
00:58:49,280 --> 00:58:52,040
Speaker 2: You're welcome to do it. You cannot hurt me with

1076
00:58:52,040 --> 00:58:56,120
Speaker 2: this anymore. So like, do it as many times as

1077
00:58:56,160 --> 00:59:00,800
Speaker 2: you want. It has nothing to do with me and

1078
00:59:01,480 --> 00:59:04,440
Speaker 2: I I refuse to participate in this going forward.

1079
00:59:07,840 --> 00:59:09,840
Speaker 3: Okay, we hear those notes.

1080
00:59:11,720 --> 00:59:13,440
Speaker 2: I'm gonna try to you know, I will take a

1081
00:59:13,440 --> 00:59:14,320
Speaker 2: look at it, obviously.

1082
00:59:14,560 --> 00:59:15,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, we can take a look at it.

1083
00:59:17,360 --> 00:59:19,400
Speaker 2: It's not a note. See who we can work in.

1084
00:59:21,520 --> 00:59:22,520
Speaker 3: And then we appreciate that.

1085
00:59:22,600 --> 00:59:29,160
Speaker 2: Actually previously, I'm a country divided.

1086
00:59:34,480 --> 00:59:37,640
Speaker 3: Oh man, I'm getting too close to this here, fires

1087
00:59:37,840 --> 00:59:38,560
Speaker 3: dang hi.

1088
00:59:39,280 --> 00:59:42,000
Speaker 1: Go ahead and move your stump one back a few

1089
00:59:42,120 --> 00:59:46,760
Speaker 1: yards there, Brenda. I'll tell you, is it just me

1090
00:59:46,960 --> 00:59:51,320
Speaker 1: or did two of these flames here look like they're

1091
00:59:51,320 --> 00:59:55,520
Speaker 1: going at each other, taking swings, but also like they

1092
00:59:55,600 --> 00:59:57,360
Speaker 1: might be I'm gonna kiss it.

1093
00:59:58,480 --> 01:00:00,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, And they also look like they're trying to solve

1094
01:00:00,960 --> 01:00:01,480
Speaker 3: a crime.

1095
01:00:03,640 --> 01:00:07,360
Speaker 2: You're said something there. Yeah, they do look like they

1096
01:00:07,440 --> 01:00:10,640
Speaker 2: might be trying to sound don't play that song because

1097
01:00:10,680 --> 01:00:11,440
Speaker 2: we're Cowboy.

1098
01:00:11,640 --> 01:00:13,720
Speaker 3: We're watching Cowboy ty.

1099
01:00:13,920 --> 01:00:16,600
Speaker 2: Don't sing it, don't sing it, don't play the song.

1100
01:00:16,760 --> 01:00:22,640
Speaker 1: Check out Boy shut It, watching Cowboy Shut

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01:00:24,480 --> 01:00:24,960
Speaker 2: Goodbye