WEBVTT - Questlove Supreme: Taboo of The Black Eyed Peas

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<v Speaker 1>What's Love Supreme is a production of iHeart Brady.

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<v Speaker 2>Yo. Look at Fante Fanti My man, what up on?

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<v Speaker 3>Brother?

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<v Speaker 4>Good to meet you, man, you could to meet you.

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<v Speaker 2>It's an honor to meet you. Brother. No no, I

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<v Speaker 2>mean what you've done. I mean from from slum conversations

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<v Speaker 2>with T three to the Daylight conversations. Bro, your name

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<v Speaker 2>is synonymous, your clue is synonymous, and I always have

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<v Speaker 2>to show my salute from my ultimate respect to the

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<v Speaker 2>pioneers like yourself.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh man, that's love, brother, Thank you so much. I

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<v Speaker 4>received that.

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<v Speaker 2>Man.

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<v Speaker 4>Likewise, thank you for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>Bro. You just don't know how much your music means

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<v Speaker 2>to all of us man, like you know, us being

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<v Speaker 2>sons of Dayla and tribe and just coming from that

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<v Speaker 2>cloth groups like yourselves like you Slum Village, you guys.

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<v Speaker 2>You guys definitely continues at the time, and I'm proud

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<v Speaker 2>of everything that you've done and even transition into this

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<v Speaker 2>new medium. It's really dope.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you so much, man.

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<v Speaker 3>So I guess we just started the episode already.

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<v Speaker 1>Flowers started with flowers.

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<v Speaker 3>We started with flowers.

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<v Speaker 2>I start with humility, brothers, because you guys, you guys

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<v Speaker 2>are always giving people flowers. Now it's time for you

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<v Speaker 2>to know what you mean to hip hop culture and

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<v Speaker 2>to hip hop kids like myself that started as be

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<v Speaker 2>boys breakdancers on the block just wanted to put on

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<v Speaker 2>for our communities, h you know, our ancestry. Unfortunately, hip

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<v Speaker 2>hop was the conduit. You know, breaking was the first

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<v Speaker 2>thing I got into. Then I got into graffiti mcm

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<v Speaker 2>I met my tribe where I am an apple the

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<v Speaker 2>app and we became uh, you know, we became brothers

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<v Speaker 2>and became black eyed peas. So when I see folks

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<v Speaker 2>like yourself, like a mirror and Fonte who set the

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<v Speaker 2>tone for hip hop culture, I always got to give

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<v Speaker 2>you your flowers.

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<v Speaker 4>That's love, brother, Thanks, thank you.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow. This is the first time where the guest actually

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<v Speaker 3>winds up entering the show. All right, ladies and gentlemen

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<v Speaker 3>of the internets, welcome to another exciting episode of course

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<v Speaker 3>Live Supreme. I'm your host, quest Love. We have fun

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<v Speaker 3>Tickeolo in the house. Brother. How's it going all right?

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<v Speaker 5>Man, I'm cool, just resting and uh yeah, getting ready

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<v Speaker 5>for Thursday and Friday of this week. This will it'll

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<v Speaker 5>have been passed by the time it's air, But yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>we Boston and New York this week, So I'm just

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<v Speaker 5>resting getting ready.

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<v Speaker 3>Man, is this a major tour or is this?

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<v Speaker 5>Uh nah, I mean it's not. Well, it's not major

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<v Speaker 5>in the sense of it's a lot of dates. We

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<v Speaker 5>just did San Diego and Orange County last weekend and

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<v Speaker 5>then this week is Boston and New York.

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<v Speaker 4>June we played Roots Picnic and yeah, it's fuck this.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm back in the outs like.

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<v Speaker 3>Really, oh yeah, wait, wait, I gotta ask, do you

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<v Speaker 3>do you feel like you? You? I know that of

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<v Speaker 3>all of us in this on this show that you,

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<v Speaker 3>more than anyone, has been extremely like almost it's Fort

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<v Speaker 3>Knox level protective of not catching the VID. And you

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<v Speaker 3>went out and then you you, you got caught out there.

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<v Speaker 5>I got that my first time leaving the house, my

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<v Speaker 5>first run in three years, our first LB run. You

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<v Speaker 5>know that we went and we did San Diego in

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<v Speaker 5>Orange County and.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I got hit.

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<v Speaker 3>Well now that you got I mean, was it like

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<v Speaker 3>for me it was like just having a cold. Was

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<v Speaker 3>it that way for you or was it like a

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<v Speaker 3>little worried there.

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<v Speaker 5>It was like having a cold, But for me it

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<v Speaker 5>was more so it wasn't necessarily just having a cold.

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<v Speaker 5>It was just participating in the delusion that this ship

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<v Speaker 5>is gone right, and like that's the part that I

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<v Speaker 5>just refused to do anymore. Like it's not in terms

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<v Speaker 5>of what touring is now, Touring pre COVID and turn

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<v Speaker 5>post COVID is just very different. And it's like now,

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<v Speaker 5>particularly for artists like us, I mean, where you're pretty

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<v Speaker 5>much doing everything like motors don't really do shit no

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<v Speaker 5>or so for me, I just looked at from the

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<v Speaker 5>standpoint of like, okay, I gotta play promoter, producer, performer,

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<v Speaker 5>curator and the fucking CDC.

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<v Speaker 4>Fuck this, dude, No, damn, I'm good, I'm paid Bill.

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<v Speaker 1>I went to get cigarettes again. I went to Australia.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm back.

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<v Speaker 3>You went to Australia.

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<v Speaker 1>I was in Australia for a few weeks to put

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<v Speaker 1>up a show. Now it's up. Now the show. Uh

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<v Speaker 1>it's called and Juliette. You haven't seen it yet, but

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<v Speaker 1>you've threatened to a few times. It's on Broadway. Now

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<v Speaker 1>it's in Australia.

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<v Speaker 3>Wait, you guys are making it worldwide already.

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<v Speaker 1>Global domination, my friend, Global domination. That's how we do well.

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<v Speaker 3>Dan with the songbook, I would suspect that Anne Juliet

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<v Speaker 3>will probably be a five to ten year staple.

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<v Speaker 1>I hope, so that'd be nice for my kids college

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<v Speaker 1>tuition and all.

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<v Speaker 3>That's what's up, man, That's what's up, sugar, Steve Esteemed

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<v Speaker 3>jazz labelhead. What's going going on?

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<v Speaker 6>How are you? Everything's okay? I we finished three records

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<v Speaker 6>this past weekend. For the one of them yours. Yes,

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<v Speaker 6>we finished mixing David Mury Ray Angry and Questlova, a

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<v Speaker 6>four platter box set that you can look forward to see.

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<v Speaker 3>She ends up making my second jazz offering in my life.

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<v Speaker 1>We're calling the Philadelphi Experiment the first one.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's the first one, okay, so I don't necessarily

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<v Speaker 3>called jazz, but you know this, this one was actually

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<v Speaker 3>probably I have more fun doing this one. I think

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<v Speaker 3>there's a lot of treats in there. So you're saying

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<v Speaker 3>it's a box set that we're.

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<v Speaker 6>Releasing, Yeah, four platters and a seven echine side and

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<v Speaker 6>it's going to be coming later this year.

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<v Speaker 3>Have son shiit? I might have to line of news

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<v Speaker 3>for that. Have we lost our queen today?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, she's on stage doing something something for.

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<v Speaker 3>Jill Oh okay, he came and set us up. That's nice,

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<v Speaker 3>ladies and gentlemen. I will say that our distinguished guest

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<v Speaker 3>today has checked many a bucket list fulfillment since having

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<v Speaker 3>entered our lives some twenty five plus years ago, as

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<v Speaker 3>one third or one fourth how you want to look

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<v Speaker 3>at it, as a one third member of a legendary,

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<v Speaker 3>legendary hip hop outfit, having created over nine studio albums

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<v Speaker 3>that have worldwide sales over thirty three million.

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<v Speaker 2>Yo.

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<v Speaker 3>Just looking at the stats made me feel like I'm

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<v Speaker 3>not working hard enough. Of ninety seven platinum awards, I

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<v Speaker 3>was way too lazy to keep total of the gold awards,

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<v Speaker 3>but I stopped counting after one hundred, over twelve major

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<v Speaker 3>world tours, over sixty sixty various awards from the MAAS

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<v Speaker 3>to BT, Soul Train Awards, Latin Awards for Bill Ward

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<v Speaker 3>for even the NAACP Awards, six Grammys, six Grammys, countless

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<v Speaker 3>MTV awards. But you know, it's not even about the quantity,

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<v Speaker 3>ladies and gentlemen's. It's to me the achievements are cool.

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<v Speaker 3>But you know, in this episode, we get to know.

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<v Speaker 3>We aim to get to know the person behind the

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<v Speaker 3>achievements and get to know them, and you know, many

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<v Speaker 3>of us were pretty much a majority of us were

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<v Speaker 3>unaware of his of his advocacy work. Now, the thing is,

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<v Speaker 3>when I start talking, I feel like I expose myself

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<v Speaker 3>when I try to talk sports, Shut up Steve, or comics,

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<v Speaker 3>Shut up Steve. Okay, yes, I'm the guy that says

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<v Speaker 3>the sports, the comics. But I you know, I'll say

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<v Speaker 3>that with you know, having created indigenous characters and it's

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<v Speaker 3>sort of expanding the world of Marvel is a wonderful thing,

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<v Speaker 3>be it the Red Wolf series or Deadly Neighborhood Spider Man.

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<v Speaker 3>He's also an author of a kid's book about identity,

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<v Speaker 3>and most importantly, he's been extremely, extremely vocal in his

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<v Speaker 3>memoirs and his interviews being an advocate for surviving cancer

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<v Speaker 3>and using this platform to connect and encourage others that

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<v Speaker 3>share that same experience. And at the end of the day,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, I will say that he's just an overall

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<v Speaker 3>a shining light and a really cool dude. And please

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<v Speaker 3>welcome to QLs MC. Author, political activists, actor, dancer, singer, songwriter, producer,

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<v Speaker 3>and yes, survivor. Jamie Gomez aka Taboo of the Black

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<v Speaker 3>Eyed Peace, Welcome.

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<v Speaker 2>To thank you for a lot. Yo. First of all,

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<v Speaker 2>I gotta acknowledge Steve for being a comic head. Steve,

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<v Speaker 2>salutes to you brother, the fact that Emir passed it

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<v Speaker 2>on to you and said sports comics not my thing.

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<v Speaker 2>It's all good, all good at storytelling. So salute to you, Steve.

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<v Speaker 2>And then Bill, you had me at two daughters. No, seriously,

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<v Speaker 2>when you said I'm a father of two daughters, I

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<v Speaker 2>would say my greatest gift is being a husband and

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<v Speaker 2>a father, because there's no motives behind that other than love.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm not trying to be Kumbaya a Hallmark card,

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<v Speaker 2>but this is real. This is who I am. All

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<v Speaker 2>the accolades and all the stuff that's monetary and all

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<v Speaker 2>that stuff when you're battling cancer ladies and gentlemen, that

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<v Speaker 2>shits so irrelevant. That shit is so irrelevant because you're like, YO,

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<v Speaker 2>just give me one more chance to be with my kids,

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<v Speaker 2>Let me hug my wife one more time, let me

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<v Speaker 2>get on that stage one more time with my crew

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<v Speaker 2>so that I can perform and bring healing to people

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<v Speaker 2>that need it. So I just wanted to get that

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<v Speaker 2>and be transparent and candidate about how much love I

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<v Speaker 2>have for life, beyond any music, beyond any career. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>enjoying just being able to have opportunities like this to

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<v Speaker 2>give my testimony and meet people like you, Bill, and

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<v Speaker 2>meet people like you Steve, who you know I've met Emir.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a fan of Fante. I know what they bring

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<v Speaker 2>to culture. I love them for what they bring and

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<v Speaker 2>who they are as human beings. But to be able

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<v Speaker 2>to see the team that brings us all together and

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<v Speaker 2>give you your flowers and salute you for what you

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<v Speaker 2>make this whole team happen. You guys got to know

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<v Speaker 2>that too, So I just wanted to kind of put

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<v Speaker 2>that out there. I'm all about that, man. I'm telling you,

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<v Speaker 2>humility is freaking key. A lot of people get caught

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<v Speaker 2>up in their own ship and I'm not trying to

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<v Speaker 2>do that. Brother. I surrendered evil a long time ago.

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<v Speaker 4>And so how old are your daughters? Man?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I have one daughter. Guess what, I have three

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<v Speaker 2>boys and one daughter. My daughter was born as a

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<v Speaker 2>miracle baby after my doctor said you're not gonna be

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<v Speaker 2>able to have any more children because you have stage

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<v Speaker 2>two testicular cancer. So the chemotherapy is going to be

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<v Speaker 2>so aggressive, intense and it's gonna break down everything that's

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<v Speaker 2>good in your body to kill that one thing that's

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<v Speaker 2>bad in your body. And so he said, unfortunately, you're

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<v Speaker 2>probably not gonna have any more children. So my daughter,

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<v Speaker 2>my one and only daughter, jet Juliana, was born as

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<v Speaker 2>a miracle baby. And so when you said that, Bill,

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, Yo, There's only been one other person

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<v Speaker 2>that has inspired me like that, and that was Kobe Bryant.

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<v Speaker 2>I had a chance to build my brother Kobe, and

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<v Speaker 2>his love and his appreciation for being such an amazing

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<v Speaker 2>girl dad was something that sparked me to become a

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<v Speaker 2>writer of books and comics and be a storyteller and

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<v Speaker 2>really focus on my kids and kids around the world,

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<v Speaker 2>bring inclusion, bring a mosaic of cultures that's represented through storytelling,

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<v Speaker 2>and do it in a way where it's fun. There's music,

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<v Speaker 2>there's art, there's culture, and it's done very genuine and authentic.

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<v Speaker 3>So let me ask you for your life, when was

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<v Speaker 3>the paradigm shift in which you had this awakening and

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<v Speaker 3>this zest for life.

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<v Speaker 2>For people that remember the earlier work of the Black

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<v Speaker 2>Eyed Peas, I was I looked very different back then

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<v Speaker 2>because I wasn't taking care of myself. I looked more depleted.

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<v Speaker 2>My cheek bone structure was very profound. I had long hair.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like weighed like one hundred and ten pounds

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<v Speaker 2>because I was using and abusing, and I'm very candid

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<v Speaker 2>about it. When I became sobers, when I found that

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<v Speaker 2>first moment of clarity for myself, and I only speak

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<v Speaker 2>for me, because I was going crazy, bro. I was

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<v Speaker 2>living the rock star lifestyle. I went from sleeping on

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<v Speaker 2>mom's couch to having my first you know whatever success

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<v Speaker 2>with whereas the Love, and that was in two thousand

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<v Speaker 2>and three. So from twenty from nineteen ninety five when

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<v Speaker 2>we started Black Eyed Peas to two thousand and three,

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<v Speaker 2>I was building this like bravado and this energy, you

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<v Speaker 2>know hip hop, Grab your crotch all that shit. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>an MC, I'm a b boy. I'm gonna battle you.

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<v Speaker 2>Yah yah yah yah. Right, your building is bravado. Your

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<v Speaker 2>confidence sometimes turns into ego, especially when you're going crazy

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<v Speaker 2>with over indulging. And so I started over indulging, started

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<v Speaker 2>getting money over indulging, and I wrote a book about it,

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<v Speaker 2>another book before I wrote the kids book about identity,

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<v Speaker 2>because I wanted to help people that have addiction or

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<v Speaker 2>going through addition. And in two thousand and seven, March

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<v Speaker 2>twenty seventh, that was the day that I changed my

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<v Speaker 2>whole perspective because I wanted to live for my kids.

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<v Speaker 2>I was living dangerously, I was living recklessly, and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I had a surrender. That was my first moment of

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<v Speaker 2>surrendering because my ego was out of control and it

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<v Speaker 2>kept saying You're the shit, nobody could fuck with you,

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<v Speaker 2>You're unstoppable, You're part of this mega crew, YadA, YadA, YadA.

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<v Speaker 2>But in actuality, I was just a human that was

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<v Speaker 2>trying to fill voids with alcoholism and drug use. And

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<v Speaker 2>I'm candid about it because I want people to take

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<v Speaker 2>inspiration from this, even if they're like, wow, we didn't

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<v Speaker 2>know that you were going to that. Well, I never

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<v Speaker 2>really publicly talked about it. I actually did the work

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<v Speaker 2>and the due diligence and the ways to be able

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<v Speaker 2>to get back and to be of service. And so

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<v Speaker 2>from that point on, my first step of moment of

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<v Speaker 2>clarity was sobriety. So now going on sixteen years of

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<v Speaker 2>being removed from that time period, in twenty fourteen, I

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<v Speaker 2>get hit with cancer and as man we don't talk

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<v Speaker 2>about that shit ever. I ain't gotta get tested. Oh man,

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<v Speaker 2>my testicles. You mean to touch my nuts? I ain't

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<v Speaker 2>got what do you mean go to the doctor. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna go on tour. I got tours. I got

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<v Speaker 2>shows to do, right, So that was the mentality. I

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<v Speaker 2>got shows to do. So I had this back pain

0:14:43.200 --> 0:14:45.600
<v Speaker 2>and my right testicle is hurting, but I was like, ah,

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<v Speaker 2>that's cool, it's all right, it's wearing terbit of the road.

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<v Speaker 2>And so in twenty fourteen was the year that it

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<v Speaker 2>all came crashing down for me and I got diagnosed

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<v Speaker 2>with stage two testicular cancer, which it went to my

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<v Speaker 2>two lift notes in my spine, and I did have

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<v Speaker 2>to go into aggressive chemotherapy six days a week, excuse me,

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<v Speaker 2>six hours a day, five days a week, many many long,

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<v Speaker 2>strenuous hours of torture and trauma, mental and physical.

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<v Speaker 3>I've only probably really been close to one person that

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<v Speaker 3>had to go through testing and that stuff for leukemia.

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<v Speaker 3>Shout out to Rich Nichols, who even then, like Rich

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<v Speaker 3>was such a hard ass cynic that he didn't want

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<v Speaker 3>to burden us with the human side of what it

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<v Speaker 3>felt like. But what what does what is the process

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<v Speaker 3>of going through that level of chemo where six hours

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<v Speaker 3>every day? What is what is the process?

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<v Speaker 2>It's different for every type of cancer. You know, for

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<v Speaker 2>the Kids Unit, which is the cancer treatment center for

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<v Speaker 2>kids McDonald's Center in Los Angeles, they have different varieties

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<v Speaker 2>of chemotherapy that some of them are aggressive, but also

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<v Speaker 2>you don't want to you don't want to bring trauma

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<v Speaker 2>to the kids so much that it causes permanent damage.

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<v Speaker 2>So with me, it was like, I'm going to go

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<v Speaker 2>aggressive because I want to be back on stage. So

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<v Speaker 2>I opted to do aggressive chemo because it was spreading

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<v Speaker 2>at such a rapid rate that if I didn't do

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<v Speaker 2>it the way that I did it with five hours

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<v Speaker 2>a day, I mean, excuse me, six hours a day,

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<v Speaker 2>five days a week, then it would have prolonged the

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<v Speaker 2>process and I probably it probably would have went from

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<v Speaker 2>my spine, my lungs, and then my brain and I

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<v Speaker 2>would have died. And that that was how the doctor

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<v Speaker 2>explained it to me.

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<v Speaker 3>How long from the moment that you found that you

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<v Speaker 3>had it, how long did it take you to acknowledge it?

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<v Speaker 3>And like, all right, let me start treatment.

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<v Speaker 2>From I got checked in on a Thursday. I was

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<v Speaker 2>doing chemo on that Monday. So I had surgery Friday

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<v Speaker 2>to get my right testicle removed.

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<v Speaker 3>So as you were concerned, you were just like, damn, man,

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<v Speaker 3>like my back is killing me. I can't dance like

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<v Speaker 3>I used to. Let me go get this fix, and

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<v Speaker 3>then that's how you found out you had cancer or.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it was like I had pain in my back

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<v Speaker 2>and it was more about like being able to pick

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<v Speaker 2>my kids up more than dancing. Okay, it was something

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<v Speaker 2>very innate to my life, Like the dancing thing is

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<v Speaker 2>only like an hour or two hours when I'm on stage, right,

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<v Speaker 2>I live a daily life of being a father, and

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<v Speaker 2>so something as simple as like trying to bend over

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<v Speaker 2>to pick on my kid, I had this sharp pain

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<v Speaker 2>in my back. So I was like, yo, there's something

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<v Speaker 2>wrong with me. I just don't know what it is.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe it's wear and tear of being on tour. Tell

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<v Speaker 2>my wife. My wife says, hey, if this continues to

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<v Speaker 2>get worse, you need to go to the er. Unfortunately,

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<v Speaker 2>at twelve midnight it got worse, so I drove. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know how I did it. I got in my car,

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<v Speaker 2>drove to the er, and I went straight into getting

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<v Speaker 2>MIRI cat scans CT scans, and by seven am they

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<v Speaker 2>told me I was diagnosed with cancer. They didn't tell

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<v Speaker 2>me what type of cancer. They just said, we found

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<v Speaker 2>a mass which is for centimeters wide four centimeters long

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<v Speaker 2>like a tennis ball, and it's in your spine and

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<v Speaker 2>it came from your right testicle.

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<v Speaker 1>In your family? Is it hereditary?

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<v Speaker 2>That was the first one, brother.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>So so let me let me just give you guys,

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<v Speaker 2>because I know this is a fun show and everybody.

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<v Speaker 3>No no, this is a human no no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 3>a human show and there's a human show. Normally I

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<v Speaker 3>just start with your creative life, but you went there,

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<v Speaker 3>so I want to know this for me.

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<v Speaker 2>So so so I just wanted to give you guys

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<v Speaker 2>the ultimate connection to me as a human being, because

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<v Speaker 2>I love what you guys do with the show, how

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<v Speaker 2>you guys take journeys of like the dark side the light,

0:18:42.440 --> 0:18:45.479
<v Speaker 2>the career of triumphs. But this one, for me was

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<v Speaker 2>the thing that kind of shape and molded who I

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<v Speaker 2>am today as a father, as a husband, as a storyteller,

0:18:51.240 --> 0:18:55.000
<v Speaker 2>as a creative because I probably wouldn't have understood being

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<v Speaker 2>a voice to indigenous communities if I didn't go through

0:18:58.520 --> 0:19:03.560
<v Speaker 2>this trauma. Because after I beat this horrible disease, I

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<v Speaker 2>said to myself, what's my higher purpose beyond being an entertainertainer,

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<v Speaker 2>beyond doing music? Wait a minute, I think I gotta

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<v Speaker 2>go and be of service. So I went to Standing Rock.

0:19:13.600 --> 0:19:17.520
<v Speaker 2>Standing Rock was a they say it's a protest, we

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<v Speaker 2>call it a protection of sacred land. At that time,

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<v Speaker 2>which is any rocks to tribe. They were trying to

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<v Speaker 2>build the oil pipeline that would eventually bring oil into

0:19:27.440 --> 0:19:30.360
<v Speaker 2>the water drinking water of the tribal community around.

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<v Speaker 3>That you were part of those protesters that I went.

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<v Speaker 2>I went there as Jimmy Gomez, an activist, as a

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<v Speaker 2>Native kid that just wanted to stand in solidarity. It

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't about Black Eyed Peas. It's just me. I took

0:19:42.440 --> 0:19:45.199
<v Speaker 2>my oldest son, Josh, and we were there as Native

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<v Speaker 2>activists giving back to the community, trying to just be

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<v Speaker 2>of service. And then I figured out how I can

0:19:52.040 --> 0:19:54.840
<v Speaker 2>be a voice and really use this huge megaphone that

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<v Speaker 2>is Black Eyed Peas to bring more eyeballs and more

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<v Speaker 2>visibility to tribal issue, whether we're talking about you know, pipelines,

0:20:02.720 --> 0:20:05.200
<v Speaker 2>or we're talking about indigenous peoples be in Los Angeles,

0:20:05.320 --> 0:20:08.359
<v Speaker 2>we're talking about the Native Nations March or bringing more

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<v Speaker 2>conversation in mainstream media that has an indigenous lens that's

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<v Speaker 2>very genuine and authentic and not stereotypical like we've seen

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<v Speaker 2>in the past. And so that was kind of like

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<v Speaker 2>my AHA moment to be that guy. He's like, Yo,

0:20:23.320 --> 0:20:27.399
<v Speaker 2>Black Eyed Peas, Yo, Will's all about technology, Apple's all

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<v Speaker 2>about the Philippines. Yo, I'm going to be about this.

0:20:31.400 --> 0:20:35.359
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to activate this amazing opportunity to inspire the

0:20:35.400 --> 0:20:38.600
<v Speaker 2>youth in tribal communities, in the Latino community because I'm

0:20:38.640 --> 0:20:41.840
<v Speaker 2>Mexican as well. Why don't I use this energy that

0:20:41.920 --> 0:20:44.639
<v Speaker 2>I've been putting on stage for so many years and

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<v Speaker 2>now bring light to the fight against cancer, advocating for

0:20:49.119 --> 0:20:52.040
<v Speaker 2>indigenous communities and actually do something to bring light and

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<v Speaker 2>hope to the people.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. I was going to say that. In doing research

0:20:58.640 --> 0:21:02.280
<v Speaker 3>for your story, and you know, having just turned fifty

0:21:02.320 --> 0:21:07.600
<v Speaker 3>two two months ago, I suddenly asked myself a question.

0:21:07.640 --> 0:21:10.040
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, wait a minute, I think when you turn

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<v Speaker 3>fifty you're supposed to start getting tests to see you know,

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<v Speaker 3>because I'm one of those people, you know, I have

0:21:18.720 --> 0:21:25.760
<v Speaker 3>been living with like stage two lymphedema for about yeah,

0:21:25.920 --> 0:21:30.040
<v Speaker 3>like since like ninety eight, like for twenty five years.

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<v Speaker 2>With you about something.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I noticed that.

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<v Speaker 2>I noticed that about you because I saw the fluctuating

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<v Speaker 2>of Europe. Yeah, and for exactly a friend from Afar

0:21:41.560 --> 0:21:44.280
<v Speaker 2>seeing you at certain events, I'd be like, yo, you know,

0:21:44.680 --> 0:21:47.320
<v Speaker 2>just going through my struggles in my illness. Same thing

0:21:47.359 --> 0:21:49.840
<v Speaker 2>that happened with Dave Rest in peace for boy, I

0:21:49.880 --> 0:21:52.800
<v Speaker 2>had that same conversation and it was so candid and

0:21:52.800 --> 0:21:55.600
<v Speaker 2>it was so on a human level that he inspired

0:21:55.640 --> 0:21:57.880
<v Speaker 2>me more than any day I saw track or any

0:21:57.920 --> 0:22:01.840
<v Speaker 2>song or any message or any lyrics because we bonded

0:22:01.840 --> 0:22:04.760
<v Speaker 2>as brothers. And so you know, I noticed that about you,

0:22:04.960 --> 0:22:08.639
<v Speaker 2>and I gotta say, man, like you without even knowing you,

0:22:08.640 --> 0:22:11.000
<v Speaker 2>you are one of those warriors that have inspired me too.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you, man, thank you. You know at the time,

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<v Speaker 3>I just ignored it and I never heard the term limpidema.

0:22:18.000 --> 0:22:20.960
<v Speaker 3>I'm just like, oh damn, I got fat, Like suddenly,

0:22:20.960 --> 0:22:24.040
<v Speaker 3>I gained seventeen pounds overnight, Like how has that happened?

0:22:25.280 --> 0:22:27.960
<v Speaker 3>And I didn't realize, like, you know, every day I

0:22:27.960 --> 0:22:32.160
<v Speaker 3>have massive swelling and like in different limbs or whatnot,

0:22:32.600 --> 0:22:34.400
<v Speaker 3>just every day. It was sort of like a roulette.

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<v Speaker 3>Change of a roulette will result of all, right, what's

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<v Speaker 3>going to be affected today? Oh, my arm's okay, great.

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<v Speaker 3>That's why I asked you, like from the time you

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<v Speaker 3>were diagnosed to the time that you immediately went to

0:22:48.359 --> 0:22:51.600
<v Speaker 3>get it checked out, Like it took me nine years,

0:22:52.200 --> 0:22:55.520
<v Speaker 3>nine years to finally and it's only because a mistake,

0:22:55.560 --> 0:22:57.480
<v Speaker 3>like I was changed for a video. My manager saw

0:22:57.480 --> 0:22:59.920
<v Speaker 3>me and like, what the fuck happened to your legs, amir?

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<v Speaker 3>And then like he rushed me to the hospital. So

0:23:05.000 --> 0:23:08.840
<v Speaker 3>you know, and I know I'm at that age now

0:23:09.200 --> 0:23:13.000
<v Speaker 3>where every my mental health and my physical health is

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<v Speaker 3>like paramount, and so like I took my first and

0:23:19.000 --> 0:23:22.480
<v Speaker 3>I had a fear. You know, sometimes ignorance is bliss

0:23:22.480 --> 0:23:26.200
<v Speaker 3>sometimes with people, and I had a general fear like

0:23:26.280 --> 0:23:28.159
<v Speaker 3>kept putting it off. Okay, when I turned fifty one,

0:23:28.200 --> 0:23:30.480
<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna get the testament. Get the testament, dude, my

0:23:31.280 --> 0:23:34.560
<v Speaker 3>cancer test and all that stuff. So I definitely knew

0:23:34.600 --> 0:23:37.480
<v Speaker 3>that before we started this interview. I didn't want to

0:23:37.680 --> 0:23:42.119
<v Speaker 3>have to face you and been like hiding, like damn,

0:23:42.160 --> 0:23:43.560
<v Speaker 3>I've been putting this off for two you so I

0:23:43.600 --> 0:23:47.239
<v Speaker 3>finally got I did my test like a week and

0:23:47.240 --> 0:23:50.760
<v Speaker 3>a half ago, so you know, I'm good, clean bill

0:23:50.800 --> 0:23:54.800
<v Speaker 3>of health. But yeah, I just but I do know

0:23:55.320 --> 0:24:00.199
<v Speaker 3>that because of our unwillingness to catch it earlier or

0:24:00.200 --> 0:24:03.840
<v Speaker 3>that sort of thing, or to even find out, we'd

0:24:03.960 --> 0:24:05.680
<v Speaker 3>rather just live and bliss and then it's too late

0:24:05.720 --> 0:24:07.480
<v Speaker 3>and your body starts talking to you and then you

0:24:07.520 --> 0:24:11.920
<v Speaker 3>have that that pain. So but yeah, I will say that.

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<v Speaker 3>In doing research and seeing your story, then I guess

0:24:15.560 --> 0:24:17.920
<v Speaker 3>that kind of pushed me over the ledge, like all right, man,

0:24:18.040 --> 0:24:22.000
<v Speaker 3>just start doing your test, bro, get this together.

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<v Speaker 2>So well, we need we need more heroes without capes

0:24:25.560 --> 0:24:31.320
<v Speaker 2>in our communities that activate just you know, health is wealth, man.

0:24:31.640 --> 0:24:34.400
<v Speaker 2>And I learned that the hard way. I'm not a preacher.

0:24:34.440 --> 0:24:38.240
<v Speaker 2>I will never preach a health and wellness, but I

0:24:38.280 --> 0:24:40.960
<v Speaker 2>will shine light on it and be like, yo, we

0:24:41.040 --> 0:24:43.240
<v Speaker 2>need that more hip hop community. I see a lot

0:24:43.280 --> 0:24:47.160
<v Speaker 2>of our pioneers that are not taking care of themselves.

0:24:47.560 --> 0:24:50.359
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, yo, you know what I'm saying. And I'm

0:24:50.480 --> 0:24:52.840
<v Speaker 2>a fan of these pioneers, and some of them just

0:24:53.520 --> 0:24:55.680
<v Speaker 2>you know, and it's sad because with a little bit

0:24:55.680 --> 0:24:58.359
<v Speaker 2>of prevention, with a little bit of a conversation and

0:24:58.400 --> 0:25:03.000
<v Speaker 2>communication which can help bring that light. Like that's something

0:25:03.000 --> 0:25:07.240
<v Speaker 2>that you know, I would like to do that for communities,

0:25:07.359 --> 0:25:10.479
<v Speaker 2>just like just like what Lance Armstrong did. And I

0:25:10.520 --> 0:25:13.600
<v Speaker 2>know the whole scandal was whacking. It just ended up

0:25:13.720 --> 0:25:17.120
<v Speaker 2>like bullshit, right, But if I can be that conduit

0:25:17.160 --> 0:25:20.679
<v Speaker 2>of hope with my experience so that folks don't have

0:25:20.760 --> 0:25:22.960
<v Speaker 2>to go through it and can prevent it, just like

0:25:23.000 --> 0:25:25.639
<v Speaker 2>what you said, Amir, You're like, oh, I saw your

0:25:25.680 --> 0:25:28.160
<v Speaker 2>story and I'm like, fuck, okay, it's fifty one. Okay,

0:25:28.160 --> 0:25:30.400
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna do it right. Maybe it with a little

0:25:30.480 --> 0:25:33.320
<v Speaker 2>nudge that you didn't even expect it. Maybe because you

0:25:33.359 --> 0:25:35.000
<v Speaker 2>saw what I went through, you're like, you know what,

0:25:35.359 --> 0:25:36.600
<v Speaker 2>all right, let me go get checked.

0:25:36.600 --> 0:25:38.880
<v Speaker 3>Definitely in a nudge. It is the nudge that finally

0:25:38.920 --> 0:25:40.439
<v Speaker 3>made me call my doctor and been like all right,

0:25:40.480 --> 0:25:43.120
<v Speaker 3>I'm coming in. Let mean you know, so I want

0:25:43.119 --> 0:25:43.840
<v Speaker 3>to credit you with that.

0:25:44.560 --> 0:25:47.679
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, man, It's a conversation that I think is healthy

0:25:47.720 --> 0:25:50.280
<v Speaker 2>to have. It's holistic. It's a way that we can

0:25:50.640 --> 0:25:53.680
<v Speaker 2>we can bring something that that you're trying to support

0:25:53.800 --> 0:25:57.200
<v Speaker 2>and nurture. The idea of just wanting to see your

0:25:57.280 --> 0:26:01.520
<v Speaker 2>people succeed and not only music or art, but also

0:26:01.760 --> 0:26:05.679
<v Speaker 2>in taking care of themselves.

0:26:07.680 --> 0:26:11.440
<v Speaker 3>Now I'm really going to start style. Where were you born?

0:26:11.880 --> 0:26:14.240
<v Speaker 2>I was born in East Los Angeles, Ball Heights, California.

0:26:14.960 --> 0:26:18.520
<v Speaker 3>Okay, yeah, what's your what's you know for you? What's

0:26:18.560 --> 0:26:20.679
<v Speaker 3>your memories of of what your childhood was?

0:26:21.800 --> 0:26:26.240
<v Speaker 2>My grandmother, my grandmother was a beautiful Native woman from Jerome, Arizona.

0:26:26.359 --> 0:26:30.040
<v Speaker 2>She represented her roots to the to the t. She

0:26:30.200 --> 0:26:33.760
<v Speaker 2>was all about being of service, sometimes to her own detriment,

0:26:33.920 --> 0:26:37.120
<v Speaker 2>her own health, which taught me a lot about like, hey,

0:26:37.400 --> 0:26:39.960
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna help, but I'm not gonna put my health

0:26:40.000 --> 0:26:43.480
<v Speaker 2>before anybody else. She was all about the arts and

0:26:43.560 --> 0:26:46.880
<v Speaker 2>music and dancing. It goes hand in hand with our ancestry.

0:26:46.920 --> 0:26:49.680
<v Speaker 2>You know, we use dancing as a way of prayer healing.

0:26:50.080 --> 0:26:53.720
<v Speaker 2>If you look at it old powout style dancers, a

0:26:53.720 --> 0:26:56.080
<v Speaker 2>lot of it is just stories that are being told

0:26:56.119 --> 0:26:59.239
<v Speaker 2>through their their style and their expression, and they use

0:26:59.280 --> 0:27:01.720
<v Speaker 2>that as a form of healing in prayer and so

0:27:01.880 --> 0:27:05.320
<v Speaker 2>growing up, my grandmother kind of still that that dancing

0:27:05.600 --> 0:27:09.040
<v Speaker 2>performing mentality at five years old, and I would be

0:27:09.160 --> 0:27:12.720
<v Speaker 2>dancing to like, you know, craft work and African Bombarda,

0:27:13.400 --> 0:27:17.960
<v Speaker 2>and you know, I got into craft work because of

0:27:18.000 --> 0:27:20.840
<v Speaker 2>African Bambada and Soul Solid and force. I started understanding

0:27:20.960 --> 0:27:25.000
<v Speaker 2>studying where that whole electronic style came from. And then

0:27:25.040 --> 0:27:27.840
<v Speaker 2>after that I saw, you know, when we saw Breaking

0:27:27.960 --> 0:27:31.679
<v Speaker 2>and you saw what's his name doing the frigging, so

0:27:31.760 --> 0:27:34.440
<v Speaker 2>you're like, yoh, what's that? Oh wait, that's craft work.

0:27:34.520 --> 0:27:36.920
<v Speaker 2>Wait a minute. So I started doing a deep dive

0:27:36.960 --> 0:27:39.720
<v Speaker 2>into like not just hip hop culture, but also where

0:27:39.720 --> 0:27:43.720
<v Speaker 2>it comes from, where that that electronic vibe came from. So,

0:27:44.320 --> 0:27:46.960
<v Speaker 2>you know, and and growing up, I started really sharpening

0:27:46.960 --> 0:27:50.120
<v Speaker 2>my swords as a B boy breaking being inspired by

0:27:50.480 --> 0:27:53.840
<v Speaker 2>breakers like Crazy Legs and the rock Steady Crew from

0:27:53.880 --> 0:27:56.720
<v Speaker 2>from New York, but also a lot of dancers from

0:27:56.800 --> 0:28:02.679
<v Speaker 2>from the West Coast like Popping Pete, Bugaloo, Shrimp, Jeffrey

0:28:02.760 --> 0:28:05.960
<v Speaker 2>Daniels who was part of Schlamar. He was filling it,

0:28:06.160 --> 0:28:08.000
<v Speaker 2>you know what I'm saying, Like he was ill with it.

0:28:08.359 --> 0:28:11.280
<v Speaker 2>He taught Mike MJ a lot of the stuff. But

0:28:11.400 --> 0:28:15.520
<v Speaker 2>also like Leg one, Leg two MC Lights Dancers, Mission

0:28:15.560 --> 0:28:19.760
<v Speaker 2>Impossible Special Eds dancers, you know, kid and play to

0:28:19.840 --> 0:28:23.600
<v Speaker 2>the scheme team which is Divine Stylers dancers. So brothers

0:28:23.600 --> 0:28:29.199
<v Speaker 2>that was Deaf Jeff's dancers. Yeah, the far side, you know,

0:28:29.720 --> 0:28:32.040
<v Speaker 2>and I mean the mop tops from a Buddhist stretch

0:28:32.080 --> 0:28:34.600
<v Speaker 2>from from New York. Like, I had such an innate

0:28:35.160 --> 0:28:38.680
<v Speaker 2>love for for freestyle dance, and then it got into housing.

0:28:39.040 --> 0:28:41.360
<v Speaker 2>Once housing came in, I was like, Yo, what's this

0:28:41.520 --> 0:28:43.920
<v Speaker 2>Because when I heard the younger brother said, say, girl,

0:28:44.000 --> 0:28:46.960
<v Speaker 2>our house you I was like housing. And I started

0:28:46.960 --> 0:28:51.120
<v Speaker 2>doing research on like soho and hot hot music, hot music,

0:28:51.520 --> 0:28:54.000
<v Speaker 2>hot from Doom Doom Do. I was like, Yo, what's

0:28:54.000 --> 0:28:56.760
<v Speaker 2>that style? So I started seeing these different styles Herb

0:28:56.840 --> 0:29:00.640
<v Speaker 2>Alpert North on South Street, watching those videos and really

0:29:01.040 --> 0:29:03.880
<v Speaker 2>immersing myself in the art fulm a dance. And then

0:29:03.920 --> 0:29:09.840
<v Speaker 2>I started studying the great Nicholas Brothers, James Brown, Sammy Davis,

0:29:10.240 --> 0:29:14.360
<v Speaker 2>Bob Fosse, all these amazing dancers that came from from

0:29:14.440 --> 0:29:17.800
<v Speaker 2>the past, and I started incorporating these styles and wanted

0:29:17.840 --> 0:29:21.920
<v Speaker 2>to to bring this this hip hop clash of like

0:29:22.000 --> 0:29:26.480
<v Speaker 2>all these unique frequencies of movement. And so that was

0:29:26.520 --> 0:29:29.120
<v Speaker 2>my upbringing. Man, That's what I That's what I remember.

0:29:29.160 --> 0:29:31.680
<v Speaker 2>This is before me even meeting Will and Apple, before

0:29:31.680 --> 0:29:34.160
<v Speaker 2>we even became black Eyed peas. I started a group

0:29:34.200 --> 0:29:37.840
<v Speaker 2>called Divine Tribal Brothers, and of course who were sons

0:29:37.840 --> 0:29:41.720
<v Speaker 2>of tribe and we loved the Jungle Brothers, So Tribal

0:29:41.760 --> 0:29:47.520
<v Speaker 2>Brothers right right, Well, Will and Apple were tribal nation

0:29:47.680 --> 0:29:50.960
<v Speaker 2>because Zulu nation and try, you know, try call quest.

0:29:51.560 --> 0:29:55.080
<v Speaker 2>So eventually we became a crew and the name of

0:29:55.120 --> 0:29:57.080
<v Speaker 2>our crew was Grassroots and we were trying to do

0:29:57.360 --> 0:30:00.479
<v Speaker 2>like the Native Tongues in the West Coast because we

0:30:00.480 --> 0:30:02.000
<v Speaker 2>were so inspired by the Native tunks.

0:30:02.480 --> 0:30:05.360
<v Speaker 4>Wasn't just your grandmother? Was it mom and dad in

0:30:05.360 --> 0:30:07.360
<v Speaker 4>the picture? Like who was it?

0:30:07.640 --> 0:30:09.400
<v Speaker 2>My mom was in the picture, but you know she

0:30:09.480 --> 0:30:13.040
<v Speaker 2>was she was born in East La. Very typical mom

0:30:12.840 --> 0:30:16.560
<v Speaker 2>from from East La. She she was she didn't see

0:30:16.560 --> 0:30:19.240
<v Speaker 2>it like my grandmother saw it. She knew. She's like,

0:30:19.280 --> 0:30:20.760
<v Speaker 2>you get on the stage and you give the best

0:30:20.840 --> 0:30:24.280
<v Speaker 2>version of yourself and don't ever stop fighting when you're

0:30:24.280 --> 0:30:27.760
<v Speaker 2>on that stage. Right, So that b boy mentality, that killer,

0:30:27.840 --> 0:30:31.520
<v Speaker 2>that apex predator mentality, battle came from my grandmother's will

0:30:32.120 --> 0:30:35.680
<v Speaker 2>and her energy. Like yeah, I love Michael Jordan and

0:30:35.800 --> 0:30:39.040
<v Speaker 2>you know, Magic Johnson and all these sports figures and

0:30:39.080 --> 0:30:41.239
<v Speaker 2>Bruce Lee. It was a big, huge, inspiration. I love

0:30:41.320 --> 0:30:46.360
<v Speaker 2>Kumfort movies, Marsha black Belt Theater, loved Billy Jack. You know,

0:30:46.360 --> 0:30:49.720
<v Speaker 2>I love watching those old school eighties movies too. But

0:30:49.840 --> 0:30:52.600
<v Speaker 2>my grandmother was my superhero, and that's I think that's

0:30:52.600 --> 0:30:55.280
<v Speaker 2>why I kind of really got into storytelling and being

0:30:55.320 --> 0:30:58.400
<v Speaker 2>a superhero advocate because my grandmother was my hero.

0:30:58.560 --> 0:30:59.160
<v Speaker 4>Without a kid.

0:30:59.760 --> 0:31:04.360
<v Speaker 3>You mention hot music by Soho. Just found out that

0:31:05.800 --> 0:31:10.080
<v Speaker 3>Soho was basically are you are you? You remember Pal Joey? Absolutely?

0:31:11.920 --> 0:31:14.640
<v Speaker 3>I did not know so Pal Joey, who was kind

0:31:14.640 --> 0:31:17.320
<v Speaker 3>of an engineer for karas One, So I guess around

0:31:17.360 --> 0:31:19.880
<v Speaker 3>the time when they're making Sex and Violence. I think

0:31:19.960 --> 0:31:22.840
<v Speaker 3>d Nice told me the story that basically all those

0:31:22.880 --> 0:31:26.160
<v Speaker 3>patches belonged to d Nice and karas One, like that's

0:31:26.160 --> 0:31:29.400
<v Speaker 3>how he made hop music. But Pal Joey was making

0:31:29.480 --> 0:31:31.880
<v Speaker 3>like house records on the side, just you know, for

0:31:31.960 --> 0:31:36.040
<v Speaker 3>extra cash and whatnot. So wow, and did not know it.

0:31:36.320 --> 0:31:39.560
<v Speaker 2>That's kind of like how we looked at when we

0:31:39.680 --> 0:31:42.960
<v Speaker 2>when we started getting that frequency of international ed M

0:31:43.360 --> 0:31:46.600
<v Speaker 2>electronic music around the world, whether it was Justice or

0:31:46.680 --> 0:31:50.760
<v Speaker 2>the the you know, uh, David Ghetto were traveled the

0:31:50.800 --> 0:31:54.000
<v Speaker 2>world and we're like, yo, remember that era of like

0:31:54.120 --> 0:31:56.960
<v Speaker 2>Girl a House, Hugh and the technotronic clump up the

0:31:57.040 --> 0:32:02.000
<v Speaker 2>gym Ya remember remember so Hot hop me. We started

0:32:02.000 --> 0:32:06.240
<v Speaker 2>talking about how we can connect and bring whatever was

0:32:06.280 --> 0:32:10.080
<v Speaker 2>happening around the world and bring that same frequency that

0:32:10.160 --> 0:32:12.400
<v Speaker 2>Jungle Brothers was doing when they did Grow a House,

0:32:13.000 --> 0:32:16.040
<v Speaker 2>but just doing the Black Eyed Peace stuff and utilizing

0:32:16.080 --> 0:32:19.040
<v Speaker 2>those inspirations and those sounds and those frequencies that were

0:32:19.040 --> 0:32:23.040
<v Speaker 2>electronic that were popping in around the world that in

0:32:23.120 --> 0:32:25.960
<v Speaker 2>turn became the Boom Boom Pals and the I Gotta

0:32:26.040 --> 0:32:28.600
<v Speaker 2>Feelings and those big records that we did in two

0:32:28.640 --> 0:32:32.400
<v Speaker 2>thousand and eight to twenty eleven, and so all we

0:32:32.440 --> 0:32:36.480
<v Speaker 2>did was just regurgitate the inspiration that came from Jungle

0:32:36.480 --> 0:32:41.600
<v Speaker 2>Brothers and those folks that were transitioning into that.

0:32:42.040 --> 0:32:43.920
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, electro music, Yeah, electual music.

0:32:44.000 --> 0:32:44.200
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

0:32:44.240 --> 0:32:46.560
<v Speaker 3>When I talk to anyone from LA that's a dancer,

0:32:47.720 --> 0:32:49.959
<v Speaker 3>the first thing they always tell me is that, you know,

0:32:50.680 --> 0:32:53.840
<v Speaker 3>it wasn't Vogan. It's called whacking. There's a whacking culture.

0:32:53.880 --> 0:33:00.640
<v Speaker 3>Whacking culture whacking like what was I guess from outside

0:33:00.640 --> 0:33:02.800
<v Speaker 3>of his standpoint, I mean, I'm a DJ, but I

0:33:02.840 --> 0:33:08.560
<v Speaker 3>don't really get many opportunities to do like house parties

0:33:08.680 --> 0:33:11.680
<v Speaker 3>like on frequently, maybe like four or five times a

0:33:11.760 --> 0:33:14.640
<v Speaker 3>year some club will hire me to do a house

0:33:14.680 --> 0:33:17.760
<v Speaker 3>set or whatever. But you know, were you at all

0:33:17.880 --> 0:33:20.280
<v Speaker 3>part of the whacking community like those?

0:33:20.680 --> 0:33:22.520
<v Speaker 2>It was a pretty tight niche. We were part of

0:33:22.520 --> 0:33:25.840
<v Speaker 2>the freestyle that Adrian Young's you know Adrian Young before

0:33:25.840 --> 0:33:29.440
<v Speaker 2>he became a producer. Wait, yeah, before Adrian Young became

0:33:29.440 --> 0:33:32.480
<v Speaker 2>a producer with at least Shahid mohamad Yo. This dude

0:33:32.520 --> 0:33:35.640
<v Speaker 2>was an incredible dancer, bro Like, he had the dreadlocks.

0:33:36.000 --> 0:33:38.840
<v Speaker 2>My man, Adrian Young was one of the illest dancers,

0:33:38.840 --> 0:33:41.760
<v Speaker 2>and we all came up together. You know. So shout

0:33:41.760 --> 0:33:44.720
<v Speaker 2>out to Adrian Young for his transition into becoming an

0:33:44.800 --> 0:33:48.880
<v Speaker 2>amazing cultivist of the culture. He just he's just such

0:33:48.880 --> 0:33:51.680
<v Speaker 2>a big inspiration because he did start as a dancer.

0:33:51.720 --> 0:33:54.080
<v Speaker 2>He started as a freestyle dancer with us.

0:33:55.160 --> 0:33:57.360
<v Speaker 3>So were you part of the good life community at

0:33:57.360 --> 0:33:59.240
<v Speaker 3>all or was that like sort of before we.

0:33:59.200 --> 0:34:01.000
<v Speaker 2>Had our own thing. We had our own thing called

0:34:01.040 --> 0:34:04.400
<v Speaker 2>Peace and Justice Center, which Black Eyed Peas spawned out

0:34:04.400 --> 0:34:06.400
<v Speaker 2>of it. We also had punpkind Ahead. We used to

0:34:06.440 --> 0:34:09.960
<v Speaker 2>come out of there. Not a lot of main artists

0:34:10.000 --> 0:34:12.560
<v Speaker 2>came out of there, but we had love and appreciation

0:34:12.680 --> 0:34:16.040
<v Speaker 2>for the abstract routes and the fellowships and you know

0:34:16.760 --> 0:34:22.440
<v Speaker 2>Medusa and all those folks. Yeah, Medusa. But we weren't

0:34:22.960 --> 0:34:25.239
<v Speaker 2>that part of La. We weren't in Lamert Park. We

0:34:25.239 --> 0:34:30.000
<v Speaker 2>were in East La Glendale, Sangabo Valley, Los Feeliss Like

0:34:30.000 --> 0:34:31.960
<v Speaker 2>that was our world. That was our stomping grounds. And

0:34:31.960 --> 0:34:34.480
<v Speaker 2>we were more in the Filipino community because of Apple Apples.

0:34:35.080 --> 0:34:36.440
<v Speaker 2>He was the guy that will bring us to the

0:34:36.480 --> 0:34:41.080
<v Speaker 2>Hi Filipino parties. So that's kind of where we we

0:34:41.080 --> 0:34:43.840
<v Speaker 2>were sharpened our swords and battle other crews.

0:34:44.480 --> 0:34:50.600
<v Speaker 3>My idea of battling really just stems from watching Beech

0:34:50.640 --> 0:34:54.399
<v Speaker 3>Street and that sort of thing. But you know, when

0:34:54.440 --> 0:34:56.960
<v Speaker 3>you go to a function, like take us back to

0:34:58.239 --> 0:35:01.840
<v Speaker 3>nineteen ninety or ninety one, if you're going to a function,

0:35:02.560 --> 0:35:05.320
<v Speaker 3>are you going there to flex that? I will dance

0:35:05.360 --> 0:35:06.960
<v Speaker 3>out dance to all of you, like how does a

0:35:07.000 --> 0:35:07.680
<v Speaker 3>battle start?

0:35:08.239 --> 0:35:11.080
<v Speaker 2>It's more of a spiritual warfare, bro, more than our

0:35:11.200 --> 0:35:15.719
<v Speaker 2>bat out dance you. It's more like when you know,

0:35:16.360 --> 0:35:19.160
<v Speaker 2>when you see the X Men battleling Scratch Pickles, or

0:35:19.200 --> 0:35:21.799
<v Speaker 2>you see the beat junkies battling these other DJs and

0:35:21.840 --> 0:35:26.879
<v Speaker 2>they're going there, they're killing. It's the same mentality for

0:35:26.880 --> 0:35:30.239
<v Speaker 2>for dancers or b boys or freestyle dancers, like we

0:35:30.440 --> 0:35:33.640
<v Speaker 2>are in there as apex predators to see who's got

0:35:33.640 --> 0:35:36.640
<v Speaker 2>the illest shit, How dope are you repid? What's the

0:35:36.800 --> 0:35:39.319
<v Speaker 2>what's the dopest moves that you're bringing to be able

0:35:39.360 --> 0:35:43.000
<v Speaker 2>to show that you're representing your crew. And we, you know,

0:35:43.080 --> 0:35:47.520
<v Speaker 2>we watch movies like rac Shop by the mop Tops

0:35:47.640 --> 0:35:51.839
<v Speaker 2>and and Wild Style, and you know, we learned from

0:35:51.840 --> 0:35:55.360
<v Speaker 2>the greats watching the battles between rock Steady and the

0:35:55.400 --> 0:35:58.080
<v Speaker 2>other crews and seeing how they would go into it

0:35:58.719 --> 0:36:02.480
<v Speaker 2>and be able to present this beautiful art form that

0:36:02.560 --> 0:36:05.680
<v Speaker 2>was ghetto gymnastics that we were do in our backyards practicing,

0:36:06.040 --> 0:36:07.520
<v Speaker 2>and then we would bring it to the stage and

0:36:07.560 --> 0:36:09.879
<v Speaker 2>it was a performance. Basically, it was like people were

0:36:09.920 --> 0:36:12.520
<v Speaker 2>watching us battle and then Will would get on the

0:36:12.560 --> 0:36:14.600
<v Speaker 2>mic and battle on the m C tip. He was

0:36:14.640 --> 0:36:17.880
<v Speaker 2>a killer. He was a killer on the m seats

0:36:17.920 --> 0:36:21.000
<v Speaker 2>on the freestyle tip. And so there was this club

0:36:21.080 --> 0:36:25.880
<v Speaker 2>called Ballistics which Bud Bundy aka David Foxtino used to

0:36:25.920 --> 0:36:28.200
<v Speaker 2>put out and it was a hip hop club and

0:36:28.840 --> 0:36:32.960
<v Speaker 2>basically we would have you know, cruise from Pasadena, from

0:36:33.160 --> 0:36:35.760
<v Speaker 2>LA from South Central come to battle at the spot

0:36:35.760 --> 0:36:39.480
<v Speaker 2>in Hollywood, and that's where Buckwheat was at. That's where

0:36:39.480 --> 0:36:44.920
<v Speaker 2>the Far Side exhibit Robin Thick call of Patton, Leonardo DiCaprio.

0:36:45.040 --> 0:36:47.600
<v Speaker 2>We all came to Alyssa, Milano. We all came to

0:36:47.640 --> 0:36:50.800
<v Speaker 2>this club and we were all teenagers and black eyed peas.

0:36:51.080 --> 0:36:53.600
<v Speaker 2>That's where we met and that's where we started kind

0:36:53.640 --> 0:36:57.040
<v Speaker 2>of like conjugating at this club called Ballistics.

0:36:57.440 --> 0:37:00.680
<v Speaker 3>When these battles happened, Like is there a ticular crew

0:37:01.040 --> 0:37:05.920
<v Speaker 3>or a person to whom you were like, nah, man,

0:37:05.960 --> 0:37:08.919
<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna destroy and when I see him next, or

0:37:08.920 --> 0:37:12.120
<v Speaker 3>that sort of thing, like like what's the battle mentality?

0:37:12.239 --> 0:37:18.719
<v Speaker 3>To discredit another dancer? Not discredit another dancer, but like,

0:37:18.840 --> 0:37:21.680
<v Speaker 3>how does one determine who won a dance battle?

0:37:23.080 --> 0:37:25.640
<v Speaker 2>I think it's more about the cruise, you know, and

0:37:26.080 --> 0:37:29.080
<v Speaker 2>and just getting the name up and getting your name

0:37:30.040 --> 0:37:32.800
<v Speaker 2>because the crew would give you merit in every city

0:37:33.480 --> 0:37:38.080
<v Speaker 2>if you're dominating these battles. It wasn't about money back then,

0:37:38.120 --> 0:37:40.600
<v Speaker 2>there was no money. It was like you know when

0:37:40.640 --> 0:37:43.759
<v Speaker 2>you watch eight mile, like eminems just battling. There was

0:37:43.800 --> 0:37:47.239
<v Speaker 2>no like it's like yo, you're battling for reputation, right,

0:37:47.600 --> 0:37:50.640
<v Speaker 2>and then you're battling at that time in the eighty

0:37:50.719 --> 0:37:53.120
<v Speaker 2>nine to ninety, it's like, Yo, I might be seen

0:37:53.160 --> 0:37:56.080
<v Speaker 2>by somebody that I can probably make this a living,

0:37:56.280 --> 0:37:58.080
<v Speaker 2>right because we don't know. We're like we see people

0:37:58.120 --> 0:38:00.719
<v Speaker 2>on television, we see people in the movie. He's like, oh, yeah,

0:38:00.719 --> 0:38:02.839
<v Speaker 2>I'm a dancer, I'm a b boy. Maybe I can

0:38:02.880 --> 0:38:06.839
<v Speaker 2>get a footloose opportunity. Maybe I can be on a

0:38:06.960 --> 0:38:09.520
<v Speaker 2>dated letterman, like the way that Crazy Legs was. You

0:38:09.520 --> 0:38:11.960
<v Speaker 2>know what I'm saying. So this just as a kid

0:38:12.040 --> 0:38:14.440
<v Speaker 2>from the inner cities, You're just like, Yo, this is

0:38:14.440 --> 0:38:18.080
<v Speaker 2>my opportunity to express myself. At that time, I wasn't rapping.

0:38:18.480 --> 0:38:21.880
<v Speaker 2>I was just break dancing or freestyle dancing. And then

0:38:21.920 --> 0:38:26.759
<v Speaker 2>I started elevating my mentality to be able to utilize

0:38:26.840 --> 0:38:32.320
<v Speaker 2>performance dancing. And then with the guidance and the strength

0:38:32.520 --> 0:38:37.160
<v Speaker 2>and the leadership of Will, I was like, Yo, maybe

0:38:37.160 --> 0:38:40.200
<v Speaker 2>I can do this thing too and represent and utilize

0:38:40.239 --> 0:38:47.080
<v Speaker 2>this as another weapon production songwriting breaking and like the

0:38:47.120 --> 0:38:49.680
<v Speaker 2>way Chris Brown was, you know, Chris Brown had that

0:38:49.800 --> 0:38:51.840
<v Speaker 2>same type of philosophy. It's like I could be a

0:38:51.880 --> 0:38:54.200
<v Speaker 2>triple threat break it down because he wasn't just a

0:38:54.239 --> 0:38:58.200
<v Speaker 2>regular dancer or not just a regular dancer. He's actually

0:38:58.239 --> 0:39:00.239
<v Speaker 2>one of my favorites because he's able to do street

0:39:00.320 --> 0:39:03.640
<v Speaker 2>dancing and not you know, he can do choreography, but

0:39:03.680 --> 0:39:05.879
<v Speaker 2>he can also have his own freestyle bous to.

0:39:06.840 --> 0:39:11.480
<v Speaker 3>What was the point in which you knew or seriously

0:39:11.520 --> 0:39:15.719
<v Speaker 3>pursued like, Okay, this is what I want to do

0:39:15.880 --> 0:39:19.720
<v Speaker 3>for a living. What was your life into your daily

0:39:19.760 --> 0:39:25.040
<v Speaker 3>life into free entertainment, like as far as school or

0:39:25.080 --> 0:39:26.399
<v Speaker 3>a job or that sort of thing.

0:39:26.680 --> 0:39:29.280
<v Speaker 2>My first first job was at Disneyland picking up horsemen

0:39:29.640 --> 0:39:33.960
<v Speaker 2>after the electrical Parade, which was I was dealing with

0:39:34.000 --> 0:39:37.200
<v Speaker 2>a lot of shit back then, ladies and gentlemen that

0:39:37.600 --> 0:39:39.840
<v Speaker 2>I was dealing with a lot of shit, But it

0:39:39.920 --> 0:39:44.839
<v Speaker 2>taught me being on point as far as like, you know,

0:39:45.280 --> 0:39:50.160
<v Speaker 2>being punctual, work, ethic, humility, because I was dealing with

0:39:50.200 --> 0:39:52.480
<v Speaker 2>a lot of shit, but also being part of a

0:39:52.520 --> 0:39:55.440
<v Speaker 2>corporate structure. And during the day I was I was

0:39:55.600 --> 0:39:58.120
<v Speaker 2>working at Disneyland, and at night I was performing with

0:39:58.160 --> 0:40:02.080
<v Speaker 2>Will and Apple, which was what was to become Black

0:40:02.120 --> 0:40:05.440
<v Speaker 2>Eyed Peas, And so I had a day job to

0:40:05.480 --> 0:40:09.640
<v Speaker 2>be able to facilitate my dream at night, just like

0:40:09.719 --> 0:40:11.480
<v Speaker 2>what you guys used to do a mirror at the

0:40:11.800 --> 0:40:13.480
<v Speaker 2>was it called Leilah's Was that spot?

0:40:13.880 --> 0:40:15.800
<v Speaker 3>What was that spot called the five Spot?

0:40:15.920 --> 0:40:20.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Yeah, yeah, the early years. Yes, So we used

0:40:20.200 --> 0:40:21.480
<v Speaker 2>to do that same thing. We used to go to

0:40:21.480 --> 0:40:24.480
<v Speaker 2>this Peace and Justice Center and just sharpen uswars do

0:40:24.600 --> 0:40:26.560
<v Speaker 2>like a jam or we had a live band and

0:40:26.600 --> 0:40:29.000
<v Speaker 2>we would rock out and we would do these performances.

0:40:29.400 --> 0:40:31.439
<v Speaker 2>And so even though we weren't getting paid a lot of money,

0:40:31.440 --> 0:40:33.879
<v Speaker 2>maybe like one hundred and two hundred bucks, we looked

0:40:33.880 --> 0:40:35.520
<v Speaker 2>at it like, oh, this is the start of something.

0:40:35.560 --> 0:40:38.120
<v Speaker 2>Maybe we can, you know, continue to grow this art

0:40:38.160 --> 0:40:41.919
<v Speaker 2>form and this this vehicle called Black Eyed Peas and

0:40:41.960 --> 0:40:45.239
<v Speaker 2>this could become something. So, you know, we're straight out

0:40:45.280 --> 0:40:47.840
<v Speaker 2>of high school, man, We're seventeen eighteen year old kids

0:40:47.880 --> 0:40:50.120
<v Speaker 2>that that had a dollar in a dream or two

0:40:50.200 --> 0:40:53.960
<v Speaker 2>dollars in a dream for gas. And so Disneyland was

0:40:54.040 --> 0:41:00.200
<v Speaker 2>my first initial job fulfilling the dream because that was

0:41:00.239 --> 0:41:01.719
<v Speaker 2>the way I was able to pay for gas or

0:41:01.760 --> 0:41:04.880
<v Speaker 2>meals to get to the studio or to my performance.

0:41:05.440 --> 0:41:08.600
<v Speaker 5>I was gonna had y'all officially become at band clan

0:41:08.840 --> 0:41:10.720
<v Speaker 5>at that point, No so Will.

0:41:10.560 --> 0:41:14.359
<v Speaker 2>And Apple got signed at sixteen as an ad Bank clan,

0:41:14.600 --> 0:41:16.560
<v Speaker 2>and it was another brother named Mookie that was part

0:41:16.640 --> 0:41:20.640
<v Speaker 2>of that trio. Easy actually discovered Will and Apple at

0:41:20.640 --> 0:41:24.480
<v Speaker 2>Ballistics the Bud Bundy joint, and so he signed him.

0:41:25.080 --> 0:41:27.239
<v Speaker 2>He was like, Yo, I love, I love what you

0:41:27.239 --> 0:41:29.600
<v Speaker 2>guys represent. You guys are kind of like the West

0:41:29.600 --> 0:41:32.640
<v Speaker 2>Coast version of a Trap cal Quest or Diggable Planets.

0:41:32.640 --> 0:41:35.480
<v Speaker 2>You guys are like, you know, you got that whatever

0:41:35.520 --> 0:41:38.399
<v Speaker 2>whatever he said, Bohemian rap or whatever, because he didn't

0:41:38.400 --> 0:41:40.960
<v Speaker 2>know how to explain it. And so he's like, I'm

0:41:40.960 --> 0:41:43.640
<v Speaker 2>gonna do the same thing Diggable and Troy did in

0:41:43.800 --> 0:41:45.640
<v Speaker 2>the East Coast. I'm gonna do that for you guys

0:41:45.640 --> 0:41:49.000
<v Speaker 2>here in the West Coast. And so unfortunately Easy he

0:41:49.040 --> 0:41:52.480
<v Speaker 2>passed away in ninety five, and so that's that was

0:41:52.600 --> 0:41:55.080
<v Speaker 2>kind of the moment where Will was like, Yo, we

0:41:55.120 --> 0:41:56.839
<v Speaker 2>got to start a new thing. It can't be ad

0:41:56.880 --> 0:42:00.239
<v Speaker 2>Bank plan So let's just I don't know, called it

0:42:00.280 --> 0:42:03.279
<v Speaker 2>blue Unit. Nah, that's why. Uh let's call it, uh,

0:42:04.120 --> 0:42:08.200
<v Speaker 2>let's call it uh Beans of rice why? Nah, it's

0:42:08.239 --> 0:42:11.600
<v Speaker 2>just kind of whack. What about uh? What about black

0:42:11.640 --> 0:42:16.080
<v Speaker 2>eyed peas peas? What does that represent black eyed peas

0:42:16.120 --> 0:42:18.560
<v Speaker 2>is so food we could feed the soul with our music.

0:42:19.040 --> 0:42:22.040
<v Speaker 2>Oh shit, okay, black eyed peas and black eyed peas

0:42:22.040 --> 0:42:26.319
<v Speaker 2>brings good luck during New Year's we bring good luck

0:42:26.360 --> 0:42:28.560
<v Speaker 2>with our music. So we started coming with a cool

0:42:28.640 --> 0:42:31.799
<v Speaker 2>ideas about what black eyed peas represented. And plus, there

0:42:31.840 --> 0:42:34.000
<v Speaker 2>wasn't a lot of food groups out there other than

0:42:34.040 --> 0:42:34.640
<v Speaker 2>the chili.

0:42:35.600 --> 0:42:45.279
<v Speaker 3>Right, Fante, You're kind of a part of this, but you,

0:42:45.280 --> 0:42:50.399
<v Speaker 3>you and Pooh don't necessarily do like run DMC Tug

0:42:50.440 --> 0:42:55.239
<v Speaker 3>of War style. But you know in the piece there

0:42:55.239 --> 0:42:58.400
<v Speaker 3>are various songs in which you guys trade lines and

0:42:58.440 --> 0:43:02.160
<v Speaker 3>that sort of thing. Can you describe to me, like

0:43:02.239 --> 0:43:06.720
<v Speaker 3>what is the creative process when you are one third

0:43:06.800 --> 0:43:10.920
<v Speaker 3>of a unit and you're creating a song, and you know,

0:43:11.480 --> 0:43:13.759
<v Speaker 3>of course there's the old all right, you get one verse,

0:43:13.920 --> 0:43:16.759
<v Speaker 3>you get one verse, you get one verse, but you

0:43:16.800 --> 0:43:19.799
<v Speaker 3>know who decides which verse goes first? He's the first

0:43:19.880 --> 0:43:23.160
<v Speaker 3>verse to be heard. Who decides like when you guys

0:43:23.160 --> 0:43:25.600
<v Speaker 3>are writing songs and which you are are trading like

0:43:25.680 --> 0:43:28.160
<v Speaker 3>tug of War lines, Like walk me through just the

0:43:28.200 --> 0:43:31.759
<v Speaker 3>creative process of how you guys develop your lyrics.

0:43:32.080 --> 0:43:36.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I would say the best way to describe the

0:43:36.000 --> 0:43:42.960
<v Speaker 2>most recent exchange of even shared contributions is this album

0:43:43.000 --> 0:43:45.839
<v Speaker 2>called Masters in the Sun, which we put out in

0:43:46.080 --> 0:43:49.839
<v Speaker 2>twenty eighteen, which is probably about that love that record, Yes,

0:43:49.840 --> 0:43:52.880
<v Speaker 2>thank you Brother, which is our best work. It's not

0:43:52.960 --> 0:43:56.480
<v Speaker 2>a pop record, it's a strictly Black Eyed Peas is

0:43:56.680 --> 0:43:59.719
<v Speaker 2>showing you what we still are capable of doing as

0:44:00.160 --> 0:44:03.279
<v Speaker 2>hip hop kids. As MC's we got to work with

0:44:03.440 --> 0:44:08.080
<v Speaker 2>our freaking one of our mentors, Lallo Shipperd doing all

0:44:08.080 --> 0:44:11.799
<v Speaker 2>these tres. So that being said, you know, we were

0:44:11.840 --> 0:44:14.600
<v Speaker 2>just in the studio just viben, like jumping around and

0:44:14.840 --> 0:44:17.160
<v Speaker 2>just acting like we were seventeen again. And that's what

0:44:17.239 --> 0:44:20.480
<v Speaker 2>the piece is like. It's a friendship. You know. We've

0:44:20.520 --> 0:44:24.080
<v Speaker 2>had different iterations of as you mentioned earlier about like

0:44:24.320 --> 0:44:26.680
<v Speaker 2>is it a third, is it a fourth? You know,

0:44:27.000 --> 0:44:28.759
<v Speaker 2>shout out to all the ladies that have been part

0:44:28.760 --> 0:44:30.799
<v Speaker 2>of our journey. But at the end of the day,

0:44:30.960 --> 0:44:34.359
<v Speaker 2>like Black Eyed Peas is myself where I am an

0:44:34.400 --> 0:44:36.960
<v Speaker 2>apple and it's always been that, and so what you

0:44:37.000 --> 0:44:39.719
<v Speaker 2>see on stage is us jumping around having a good time,

0:44:39.960 --> 0:44:43.680
<v Speaker 2>just you know, not taking ourselves too seriously, not to

0:44:43.800 --> 0:44:46.000
<v Speaker 2>dayl out soul, not to daylight because they said the

0:44:46.040 --> 0:44:50.879
<v Speaker 2>same thing that inspired us. So we just we do that.

0:44:51.000 --> 0:44:53.600
<v Speaker 2>We are in the studio and we're building and we

0:44:53.680 --> 0:44:55.799
<v Speaker 2>say a couple of words. I don't like that line.

0:44:55.840 --> 0:44:57.799
<v Speaker 2>Maybe we've changed that line. All right, app what do

0:44:57.800 --> 0:44:59.640
<v Speaker 2>you got? Apple? Say something? And then we just start

0:44:59.680 --> 0:45:02.279
<v Speaker 2>exchange and then you have your traditional like you know,

0:45:02.400 --> 0:45:05.080
<v Speaker 2>tab what you got? You? I got this first? Okay,

0:45:05.120 --> 0:45:07.359
<v Speaker 2>you go first? All right, well we got this. So

0:45:07.880 --> 0:45:12.560
<v Speaker 2>there's no recipe. It's just we're scientists in there. We

0:45:12.960 --> 0:45:15.920
<v Speaker 2>we tap into a frequency that we want to display

0:45:16.200 --> 0:45:20.440
<v Speaker 2>on every song and it comes out magical because we

0:45:20.520 --> 0:45:23.480
<v Speaker 2>know our formula. We know how to maneuver on stage

0:45:23.520 --> 0:45:25.040
<v Speaker 2>and in the studio as a trio.

0:45:25.600 --> 0:45:28.279
<v Speaker 5>You spoke about briefly about the ladies that y'all worked

0:45:28.280 --> 0:45:29.120
<v Speaker 5>with over the years.

0:45:29.280 --> 0:45:31.160
<v Speaker 4>I want to ask you specifically about Kim Hill.

0:45:31.280 --> 0:45:34.160
<v Speaker 5>I really love her, Like, what memories do you have

0:45:34.200 --> 0:45:36.000
<v Speaker 5>of working with her during that time of.

0:45:36.080 --> 0:45:38.680
<v Speaker 2>First of all, I just want to acknowledge all the

0:45:38.800 --> 0:45:41.479
<v Speaker 2>ladies that have worked with us, and Kim Hill set

0:45:41.480 --> 0:45:45.800
<v Speaker 2>the tone. You know, She's been such an amazing piece

0:45:45.840 --> 0:45:48.799
<v Speaker 2>of our history. And for those folks that don't know,

0:45:48.880 --> 0:45:53.919
<v Speaker 2>she's an amazing designer as well. She has some pieces. Yeah,

0:45:54.360 --> 0:45:58.600
<v Speaker 2>DJ She's a great mom and she's just she's all

0:45:58.640 --> 0:46:02.960
<v Speaker 2>around amazing. So she just set the tone for us

0:46:03.000 --> 0:46:05.319
<v Speaker 2>because she was older than us at the time when

0:46:05.400 --> 0:46:07.759
<v Speaker 2>we're when we started Black Eyed Peas, so she was

0:46:07.840 --> 0:46:10.400
<v Speaker 2>kind of like an older sister figure to us, and

0:46:10.480 --> 0:46:12.480
<v Speaker 2>she kept us online when we're on tour. You know,

0:46:12.520 --> 0:46:15.880
<v Speaker 2>we're like teenagers. She was in her early twenties and

0:46:15.920 --> 0:46:18.640
<v Speaker 2>we were like, you know, still kind of goofy and

0:46:18.680 --> 0:46:20.680
<v Speaker 2>messing around, and she'd be like, Yo, guys, we gotta

0:46:20.840 --> 0:46:23.160
<v Speaker 2>we gotta show them arow or whatever. But it was

0:46:23.200 --> 0:46:25.000
<v Speaker 2>cool because we looked at her as like an older

0:46:25.040 --> 0:46:30.160
<v Speaker 2>sister and she always showed love. She was always inspirational,

0:46:30.239 --> 0:46:34.040
<v Speaker 2>and you know, to this day, I'll hit her up

0:46:34.040 --> 0:46:37.160
<v Speaker 2>on Instagram and we just we have a mutual respect

0:46:37.239 --> 0:46:39.719
<v Speaker 2>for each other. So so I'm glad you said that, man,

0:46:39.719 --> 0:46:42.600
<v Speaker 2>because she contributed a lot to the first two albums

0:46:42.640 --> 0:46:45.960
<v Speaker 2>behind the front and bridging the gap, and you know,

0:46:46.320 --> 0:46:50.960
<v Speaker 2>she's just she's amazing and I'm proud of everything she's

0:46:51.000 --> 0:46:52.600
<v Speaker 2>doing now. So salute to Kim Hill.

0:46:52.880 --> 0:46:57.040
<v Speaker 3>He walked us through the process of what led to

0:46:57.160 --> 0:47:00.720
<v Speaker 3>the deal with Interscope from the time that you got

0:47:01.000 --> 0:47:04.680
<v Speaker 3>form the group to getting that deal, Like, what was

0:47:04.719 --> 0:47:05.320
<v Speaker 3>the process?

0:47:06.520 --> 0:47:08.560
<v Speaker 2>A lot of a lot of shows, man, a lot

0:47:08.600 --> 0:47:11.359
<v Speaker 2>of shows, A lot of no's, Black eyed peas, You're

0:47:11.360 --> 0:47:17.000
<v Speaker 2>not tangible enough. There's already a slum village, there's already roots,

0:47:17.040 --> 0:47:19.720
<v Speaker 2>there's already a Fuji's What makes you thinks you're gonna

0:47:19.719 --> 0:47:20.520
<v Speaker 2>sell records?

0:47:20.840 --> 0:47:26.520
<v Speaker 3>I feir.

0:47:28.040 --> 0:47:30.320
<v Speaker 2>Man, it was. We dealt with a lot of no's.

0:47:30.560 --> 0:47:34.239
<v Speaker 2>It's not tangible enough. I don't hear any uh, you know,

0:47:34.760 --> 0:47:37.360
<v Speaker 2>who are the black eyed peas? What are the black

0:47:37.360 --> 0:47:39.560
<v Speaker 2>eyed peas? Like? You know what? You got a ninja

0:47:39.600 --> 0:47:41.839
<v Speaker 2>and a black guy in a Filipino like, what are

0:47:41.880 --> 0:47:46.799
<v Speaker 2>you guys? You know? So it's just not understanding what

0:47:46.800 --> 0:47:49.200
<v Speaker 2>what we were going to contribute to the world. And

0:47:49.239 --> 0:47:52.040
<v Speaker 2>we always had an international mindset because Apple came from

0:47:52.040 --> 0:47:54.640
<v Speaker 2>the Philippines, so we knew wanted to make music for

0:47:54.680 --> 0:47:58.239
<v Speaker 2>the world. And even if domestic didn't understand what we

0:47:58.239 --> 0:48:00.440
<v Speaker 2>were trying to do with our music, because we were

0:48:00.480 --> 0:48:04.360
<v Speaker 2>inspired by you know, Georgie Benjor and Sergio Mendez and

0:48:04.440 --> 0:48:09.560
<v Speaker 2>Brazil sixty six and all these amazing Brazilian artists and

0:48:09.600 --> 0:48:12.719
<v Speaker 2>We loved the samples. We loved those ideas of being

0:48:12.760 --> 0:48:15.479
<v Speaker 2>able to go to Brazil one day and being able

0:48:15.520 --> 0:48:18.920
<v Speaker 2>to tour Europe and making a stamp in Europe, just

0:48:18.960 --> 0:48:21.600
<v Speaker 2>like the way Jimmy Hendrix did, the way that the

0:48:21.640 --> 0:48:23.640
<v Speaker 2>Doors did, the way that you guys did at a

0:48:23.840 --> 0:48:26.480
<v Speaker 2>jazz cafe. You know, it was just that that idea

0:48:26.480 --> 0:48:30.759
<v Speaker 2>of always wanted to go international, and so you know,

0:48:30.800 --> 0:48:32.520
<v Speaker 2>it was it was a journey man. It was a

0:48:32.600 --> 0:48:37.440
<v Speaker 2>journey of belief, of doubling down on ourselves when people

0:48:37.480 --> 0:48:41.000
<v Speaker 2>were doubting us, and we just we just continued tucking

0:48:41.000 --> 0:48:43.400
<v Speaker 2>on and fortuneen Jimmy Ivy and saw the genius and

0:48:43.440 --> 0:48:45.120
<v Speaker 2>what was to become Black Eyed Peas. And the thing

0:48:45.160 --> 0:48:47.239
<v Speaker 2>that he said to us is we were going through

0:48:47.239 --> 0:48:50.279
<v Speaker 2>a bidding war. It was poly Anthony and Sony Rest

0:48:50.320 --> 0:48:54.360
<v Speaker 2>in Peace at five fifty, and it was also Tom

0:48:54.400 --> 0:48:59.759
<v Speaker 2>Wally at Oarner Brothers and then at Jimmy Ivy and

0:48:59.840 --> 0:49:03.439
<v Speaker 2>so so Jimmy's like, you know, you can make records here,

0:49:04.520 --> 0:49:06.839
<v Speaker 2>no matter how many records you sell. You can have

0:49:06.920 --> 0:49:09.479
<v Speaker 2>a career here with me. You can get a million

0:49:09.520 --> 0:49:13.160
<v Speaker 2>dollars from Sony, But who knows what they're gonna do

0:49:13.200 --> 0:49:15.480
<v Speaker 2>as far as you're touring, you guys are a touring band.

0:49:16.800 --> 0:49:19.120
<v Speaker 2>If you guys are about the money, you can go

0:49:19.160 --> 0:49:21.319
<v Speaker 2>to Son. But if you're about a career and have

0:49:21.400 --> 0:49:26.280
<v Speaker 2>longevity and belief, come here. So you know, fortunately we chose,

0:49:26.360 --> 0:49:28.200
<v Speaker 2>we chose right, and Jimmy was kind of like the

0:49:28.800 --> 0:49:32.040
<v Speaker 2>He was the godfather that led us on that path.

0:49:32.840 --> 0:49:37.239
<v Speaker 3>Whenever an artist puts the big hit at the very

0:49:37.320 --> 0:49:41.040
<v Speaker 3>end of the album, then I always feel like, Okay,

0:49:41.160 --> 0:49:45.080
<v Speaker 3>maybe they didn't believe in the product or whatever. And

0:49:45.360 --> 0:49:50.879
<v Speaker 3>I know that when behind the front bridging the gap,

0:49:50.920 --> 0:49:54.120
<v Speaker 3>not behind it. Yeah, so you know, there was a

0:49:54.160 --> 0:49:56.160
<v Speaker 3>second where it's like, okay, you guys get in traction

0:49:56.320 --> 0:49:59.640
<v Speaker 3>on on TRL and this is about to happen. You

0:49:59.640 --> 0:50:03.319
<v Speaker 3>guys have out to do it. Could you describe what

0:50:03.719 --> 0:50:07.920
<v Speaker 3>the feeling is like when it's it's kind of a

0:50:07.920 --> 0:50:10.600
<v Speaker 3>close but no cigar moment, and then you have to

0:50:10.600 --> 0:50:16.120
<v Speaker 3>make a decision on what your your surviving is going

0:50:16.200 --> 0:50:18.719
<v Speaker 3>to be sink or swim? Like, did you walk through

0:50:18.719 --> 0:50:19.280
<v Speaker 3>that period?

0:50:20.480 --> 0:50:22.919
<v Speaker 2>That's when we knew the internet was real?

0:50:24.880 --> 0:50:26.400
<v Speaker 3>Oh shit, Okay, this is when.

0:50:26.200 --> 0:50:31.479
<v Speaker 2>We found out the Internet existed and it I mean

0:50:31.600 --> 0:50:34.320
<v Speaker 2>it swallowed ourselves. It was this thing called Nabster.

0:50:35.320 --> 0:50:37.040
<v Speaker 3>Okay, we had all the.

0:50:37.000 --> 0:50:40.920
<v Speaker 2>Promo marketing, all the looks you can have. We were

0:50:40.920 --> 0:50:44.319
<v Speaker 2>on tour, on a college invasion tour with Daylight and

0:50:44.400 --> 0:50:48.840
<v Speaker 2>White Left and I believe it was Bismarquis, and we

0:50:48.840 --> 0:50:51.799
<v Speaker 2>would go to these like little after parties and they

0:50:51.800 --> 0:50:54.680
<v Speaker 2>were playing Bridging the Gap. We're like, yo. Will gets

0:50:54.680 --> 0:50:57.520
<v Speaker 2>all mad. It's like, tap, did you did you bring

0:50:57.840 --> 0:50:59.719
<v Speaker 2>bring the record? Because the record wasn't out yet? Did

0:50:59.719 --> 0:51:01.239
<v Speaker 2>you bring the record here? I was like, no, what

0:51:01.239 --> 0:51:04.799
<v Speaker 2>are you talking about? He's like, who's playing the fucking record?

0:51:05.160 --> 0:51:07.000
<v Speaker 2>So it was a girl She's like, I love your

0:51:07.040 --> 0:51:09.319
<v Speaker 2>new albums, and Will was like, what do you mean

0:51:09.360 --> 0:51:11.719
<v Speaker 2>our new album it's not even out. He's like, yeah,

0:51:11.800 --> 0:51:13.880
<v Speaker 2>it's out, it's out on Napster. He's like, what the

0:51:13.920 --> 0:51:19.239
<v Speaker 2>fuck is Napster. It's like, what's Napster? She's like, Napster's

0:51:19.320 --> 0:51:21.920
<v Speaker 2>like the new pirting shit, like you can get all

0:51:21.960 --> 0:51:28.640
<v Speaker 2>these like new albums. So we basically found out that

0:51:28.680 --> 0:51:32.960
<v Speaker 2>our album had been pirated and been freaking downloaded for free,

0:51:33.480 --> 0:51:36.799
<v Speaker 2>and so the momentum was like, oh shit, we did

0:51:36.800 --> 0:51:39.680
<v Speaker 2>all this promo. We did. We were on tour, TRL

0:51:39.760 --> 0:51:43.120
<v Speaker 2>picked up the song, but we only sold we sold

0:51:43.239 --> 0:51:46.399
<v Speaker 2>less than behind the front because people are now going

0:51:46.400 --> 0:51:48.439
<v Speaker 2>to Napster, so they got they get it for free

0:51:48.440 --> 0:51:51.080
<v Speaker 2>instead of buying the record, buying the CD. So then

0:51:51.120 --> 0:51:53.719
<v Speaker 2>we said, yo, we got to go into creating the

0:51:53.760 --> 0:51:57.040
<v Speaker 2>next record. So that's when we went into creating the

0:51:57.200 --> 0:51:59.880
<v Speaker 2>Elephant album. This is two thousand and one.

0:52:00.160 --> 0:52:04.799
<v Speaker 3>Right, So how are decisions made as far as who

0:52:04.880 --> 0:52:07.640
<v Speaker 3>to work with, who to bring, like what producer to

0:52:07.680 --> 0:52:10.600
<v Speaker 3>work with, what members to let in the group? Where

0:52:10.600 --> 0:52:14.960
<v Speaker 3>all those things, like how are you guys just around

0:52:15.040 --> 0:52:19.000
<v Speaker 3>this point in the early aughts in terms of communication,

0:52:20.320 --> 0:52:20.759
<v Speaker 3>It's like.

0:52:21.400 --> 0:52:26.160
<v Speaker 2>We're all going through our own individual issues. And I

0:52:26.200 --> 0:52:29.440
<v Speaker 2>remember at being away from from the studio a lot.

0:52:29.760 --> 0:52:32.680
<v Speaker 2>So it's me and Will heavy in the studio on elephone.

0:52:33.520 --> 0:52:37.399
<v Speaker 2>And at that time, nine eleven happened, so we were

0:52:37.480 --> 0:52:41.600
<v Speaker 2>recording Bodega Bay. Nine eleven happens. We're supposed to go

0:52:41.680 --> 0:52:45.320
<v Speaker 2>on tour in September twelve. We go on tour September twelve,

0:52:46.080 --> 0:52:48.680
<v Speaker 2>and we travel around the US and we see all

0:52:48.719 --> 0:52:53.120
<v Speaker 2>this divide, all this, you know, all this hatred towards

0:52:53.160 --> 0:52:57.520
<v Speaker 2>Middle Eastern people, and so we were like, yo, we

0:52:57.600 --> 0:53:01.719
<v Speaker 2>kept asking the question, No, where's the love within humanity?

0:53:02.719 --> 0:53:04.759
<v Speaker 2>So we would go to these different spots asking the

0:53:04.760 --> 0:53:09.840
<v Speaker 2>same question, where's the love within humanity? Where's the love? Okay,

0:53:09.880 --> 0:53:12.239
<v Speaker 2>that's that's kind of dope. There's something there with this

0:53:12.400 --> 0:53:17.239
<v Speaker 2>topic where's the love? So we started creating where's the love?

0:53:17.400 --> 0:53:22.760
<v Speaker 2>The record the song, and we recorded these records where's

0:53:22.760 --> 0:53:26.760
<v Speaker 2>the Love? Let's get it started. We recorded Hey Mama,

0:53:26.880 --> 0:53:29.880
<v Speaker 2>all these joints off at elephone, and I remember we

0:53:30.280 --> 0:53:32.080
<v Speaker 2>played it for Ron Fair and he said, I don't

0:53:32.080 --> 0:53:37.719
<v Speaker 2>hear a single? What I don't hear a single? So

0:53:38.320 --> 0:53:41.000
<v Speaker 2>are exacts? Are like, we don't hear a single on elephone?

0:53:41.760 --> 0:53:44.400
<v Speaker 2>So we're like, we gotta double down. If this is

0:53:44.440 --> 0:53:46.839
<v Speaker 2>our last record, what are we gonna do? So at

0:53:46.880 --> 0:53:49.799
<v Speaker 2>that time, we had been dealing with a girl that

0:53:49.880 --> 0:53:52.960
<v Speaker 2>Will had been working with named Stacy, and she was

0:53:52.960 --> 0:53:55.480
<v Speaker 2>working on a solo project and she had been singing

0:53:55.600 --> 0:53:57.640
<v Speaker 2>like you know when you have a girl in the studio,

0:53:57.719 --> 0:54:00.879
<v Speaker 2>she's singing the girl parts that we will roll yeah,

0:54:00.960 --> 0:54:04.600
<v Speaker 2>so so referencing stuff. But it actually sounded good and

0:54:04.680 --> 0:54:11.000
<v Speaker 2>we kept it on there and her voice was something

0:54:11.000 --> 0:54:13.439
<v Speaker 2>that we gravitated to. She was dope. She had had

0:54:13.800 --> 0:54:16.800
<v Speaker 2>her own group prior to us having her in the studio.

0:54:16.920 --> 0:54:20.560
<v Speaker 2>She was a teenage or like a kid star, and

0:54:20.640 --> 0:54:23.480
<v Speaker 2>so we're like, yo, this maybe there's some magic here.

0:54:24.000 --> 0:54:27.319
<v Speaker 2>So we kept on the records and then we're like, yo,

0:54:28.200 --> 0:54:31.160
<v Speaker 2>are we gonna put put her in the group? Like, yo,

0:54:31.239 --> 0:54:35.359
<v Speaker 2>we we've had all these different females. It's not anything new.

0:54:35.480 --> 0:54:39.000
<v Speaker 2>We've never you know, it's it's not that we've not

0:54:39.120 --> 0:54:41.719
<v Speaker 2>had a female, because we have. We had Kim Hill,

0:54:41.800 --> 0:54:47.760
<v Speaker 2>Macy Gray, Stero, Don Beckman, Noel Skaggs, all these females

0:54:47.800 --> 0:54:50.640
<v Speaker 2>have worked with us, DeBie Nova. But now there was

0:54:50.680 --> 0:54:53.759
<v Speaker 2>going to be a female that might not fit the

0:54:53.800 --> 0:54:56.799
<v Speaker 2>mold because he's coming from a group that was more

0:54:56.840 --> 0:55:00.960
<v Speaker 2>of like a pop group. So we just said, fuck it,

0:55:01.239 --> 0:55:04.080
<v Speaker 2>let's go, let's let's make this happen. Let's just bring

0:55:04.120 --> 0:55:06.000
<v Speaker 2>in the crew, let's take her on tour. We took

0:55:06.040 --> 0:55:10.160
<v Speaker 2>her on tour. People hated it. They were like, oh man,

0:55:10.320 --> 0:55:13.520
<v Speaker 2>what's this. This ain't black eyed Peas. I'm not feeling this.

0:55:13.719 --> 0:55:16.160
<v Speaker 2>So they were hate, Like yo, it just turned like

0:55:16.719 --> 0:55:19.680
<v Speaker 2>it turned negative because we have this new girl in

0:55:19.719 --> 0:55:23.680
<v Speaker 2>the group Fergie, and so we put out Where's the Love?

0:55:25.440 --> 0:55:30.319
<v Speaker 2>And it smashes Oh. Before that, we actually I went

0:55:30.360 --> 0:55:33.080
<v Speaker 2>to a club in La called Josephs and I met

0:55:33.120 --> 0:55:35.839
<v Speaker 2>this kid who was a part of this boy band

0:55:35.960 --> 0:55:39.000
<v Speaker 2>and he's a dancer, and so he's transitioning from like

0:55:39.280 --> 0:55:43.919
<v Speaker 2>this boy band to becoming a solo artist. I'm like, yo, man,

0:55:43.920 --> 0:55:47.560
<v Speaker 2>if you have talent, I don't care where you're coming from. Bro, Like,

0:55:47.680 --> 0:55:50.520
<v Speaker 2>if you got talent, let's go, let's work. He's like, yeah,

0:55:50.520 --> 0:55:53.239
<v Speaker 2>I'm working with Pharrell. I got this new project that

0:55:53.280 --> 0:55:56.480
<v Speaker 2>I'm doing. I'm transitioning from this group to now doing

0:55:56.480 --> 0:55:58.440
<v Speaker 2>my solo thing. I was like, Yo, you think you

0:55:58.440 --> 0:56:00.759
<v Speaker 2>can sing a hook on this record? We have right now?

0:56:00.880 --> 0:56:03.160
<v Speaker 2>Is Where's the Love? The Love? The Love?

0:56:03.239 --> 0:56:03.719
<v Speaker 4>That was it?

0:56:04.640 --> 0:56:07.000
<v Speaker 2>I said, can you give me something like mercy mercy

0:56:07.080 --> 0:56:10.319
<v Speaker 2>me or like What's going on by Marvin Gaye? He says,

0:56:10.320 --> 0:56:15.520
<v Speaker 2>all right, cool, give me a minute. He goes creates

0:56:15.560 --> 0:56:17.799
<v Speaker 2>whatever he's gonna create. He calls me like, tab I

0:56:17.880 --> 0:56:20.880
<v Speaker 2>got it. He sings it over the phone. People killing,

0:56:21.000 --> 0:56:24.279
<v Speaker 2>people dying, children hurt, and you hear them crying. I'm like, yo,

0:56:24.360 --> 0:56:25.040
<v Speaker 2>what the what?

0:56:25.880 --> 0:56:26.080
<v Speaker 3>Yo?

0:56:26.280 --> 0:56:29.200
<v Speaker 2>I gotta call Will. I call Will. I tell him, Yo,

0:56:29.280 --> 0:56:32.800
<v Speaker 2>Will I got the hook? You're like, you got the hook? No,

0:56:33.200 --> 0:56:35.160
<v Speaker 2>I got the person to sing the hook from. Where's

0:56:35.160 --> 0:56:39.320
<v Speaker 2>the Love? He's like, who I said, justin Timberlake? He's

0:56:39.360 --> 0:56:46.200
<v Speaker 2>like justin Timberlake? The Backstreet boy he's he's not a

0:56:46.239 --> 0:56:49.840
<v Speaker 2>Backstreet boy, he's part of in Sync. He's in Sync.

0:56:49.960 --> 0:56:52.600
<v Speaker 2>He's like, that's even fucking worse. Tab Why are we

0:56:52.640 --> 0:56:56.640
<v Speaker 2>gonna have that guy sing on our hook? But I

0:56:56.719 --> 0:57:01.280
<v Speaker 2>saw what he brought. I didn't care what his past

0:57:01.360 --> 0:57:02.880
<v Speaker 2>or where he was coming from. It's like, if the

0:57:02.960 --> 0:57:05.400
<v Speaker 2>song is great, I don't care who's singing it. Let's go.

0:57:06.120 --> 0:57:07.880
<v Speaker 2>So he comes in and he records it, and the

0:57:07.960 --> 0:57:12.400
<v Speaker 2>left the rest is magic. We put it out, creates

0:57:12.440 --> 0:57:17.160
<v Speaker 2>this huge, huge, amazing frequency around the world. It becomes

0:57:17.200 --> 0:57:20.920
<v Speaker 2>our first number one record, and Ron Fairs puts strings

0:57:20.960 --> 0:57:23.760
<v Speaker 2>on it, and that was his connection to it. I

0:57:23.760 --> 0:57:24.440
<v Speaker 2>always knew it was.

0:57:24.600 --> 0:57:25.160
<v Speaker 4>To be a hit.

0:57:25.200 --> 0:57:29.680
<v Speaker 3>Little buddy, when this song finally takes off, what was

0:57:29.720 --> 0:57:33.440
<v Speaker 3>the first paradigm shift that occurred in your life? I

0:57:33.440 --> 0:57:35.560
<v Speaker 3>guess you can only have one time to have that

0:57:35.640 --> 0:57:41.880
<v Speaker 3>experience in which you instantly see the shift of first

0:57:41.920 --> 0:57:47.280
<v Speaker 3>we were a niche, underground group and suddenly we might

0:57:47.320 --> 0:57:50.400
<v Speaker 3>be the establishment, So what what is happening?

0:57:50.440 --> 0:57:50.560
<v Speaker 1>Like?

0:57:51.000 --> 0:57:53.000
<v Speaker 3>What's the feeling like? What happens?

0:57:53.360 --> 0:57:54.920
<v Speaker 2>I love that you said that because I was so

0:57:55.080 --> 0:58:01.280
<v Speaker 2>proud of you transitioning into Late Night Fellon because it

0:58:01.320 --> 0:58:03.560
<v Speaker 2>was dope to see you guys like you know, and

0:58:03.720 --> 0:58:08.240
<v Speaker 2>that umbrella sparked you to be able to be in

0:58:08.280 --> 0:58:11.040
<v Speaker 2>the space of the oscars and have to people, to

0:58:11.080 --> 0:58:12.880
<v Speaker 2>be acting and all the great things that you guys

0:58:12.920 --> 0:58:16.120
<v Speaker 2>have been doing. So that being said, I think for

0:58:16.320 --> 0:58:19.960
<v Speaker 2>us because I'm I love comedy man, I'm a big

0:58:20.080 --> 0:58:23.040
<v Speaker 2>big I love comedy and humor. When we were on

0:58:23.400 --> 0:58:25.840
<v Speaker 2>parody on Saturday Night Live, yeah.

0:58:25.720 --> 0:58:27.520
<v Speaker 3>I was gonna say, how did that feel to be?

0:58:28.440 --> 0:58:33.320
<v Speaker 2>Yo? We made it boy from East to La that

0:58:33.520 --> 0:58:37.240
<v Speaker 2>just loves hip hop culture and yes it was tongue

0:58:37.280 --> 0:58:39.240
<v Speaker 2>in cheek. It was funny. It's like they're making fun

0:58:39.240 --> 0:58:41.560
<v Speaker 2>of the black eyed Peas, but they're mentioning the black

0:58:41.640 --> 0:58:42.640
<v Speaker 2>eye ps.

0:58:42.920 --> 0:58:45.320
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you know what I'm saying.

0:58:45.360 --> 0:58:48.240
<v Speaker 2>My brother Apple came from Philippines not knowing a word

0:58:48.240 --> 0:58:52.120
<v Speaker 2>of English because hip hop taught him how to speak English.

0:58:52.160 --> 0:58:56.480
<v Speaker 2>Do you write a dictionary? Learned how to rap and

0:58:56.640 --> 0:58:59.680
<v Speaker 2>became a freaking huge international superstar from the.

0:58:59.600 --> 0:59:01.880
<v Speaker 4>Film pop y'all are pop culture references like that.

0:59:02.000 --> 0:59:06.720
<v Speaker 2>So I'm like, yo, you gotta own it. Who else

0:59:06.800 --> 0:59:09.280
<v Speaker 2>but us? I mean, we get ship if it's there,

0:59:09.600 --> 0:59:12.600
<v Speaker 2>own it. And if people hate all good Oh you

0:59:12.600 --> 0:59:16.080
<v Speaker 2>guys shell outs. Yeah, we're selling out stadiums around the world.

0:59:16.600 --> 0:59:20.840
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. You know. My manager used to tease Tarika and

0:59:20.920 --> 0:59:24.640
<v Speaker 3>I about like he would always say, well, you guys

0:59:24.800 --> 0:59:27.640
<v Speaker 3>are salty because you never got your what he calls

0:59:27.680 --> 0:59:32.440
<v Speaker 3>your Bentley moment and his short His short Bentley moment

0:59:32.560 --> 0:59:36.440
<v Speaker 3>was sort of a shorthand for like whatever it is

0:59:36.480 --> 0:59:39.840
<v Speaker 3>the life that rappers think that rappers should be going through.

0:59:40.520 --> 0:59:42.640
<v Speaker 3>We should be walking in slow motion. We should be

0:59:44.080 --> 0:59:48.000
<v Speaker 3>you know, pouring champagne all over women and whatever whatever

0:59:48.120 --> 0:59:52.720
<v Speaker 3>hype William's slow motion kind of life. That Yeah, like

0:59:52.800 --> 0:59:53.640
<v Speaker 3>that experience.

0:59:53.680 --> 0:59:56.920
<v Speaker 2>So you like this bill. For me, it was getting

0:59:56.920 --> 1:00:01.560
<v Speaker 2>custody my son. Being able to pay twenty thousand dollars

1:00:01.680 --> 1:00:06.960
<v Speaker 2>to get full custody of my son Josh. I was like, Yo,

1:00:08.560 --> 1:00:11.919
<v Speaker 2>that's worth more than than any gold chain, than any

1:00:11.960 --> 1:00:15.680
<v Speaker 2>Bentley because now I'm able to raise my son on

1:00:15.840 --> 1:00:19.320
<v Speaker 2>my playing ground the way that I want to raise it.

1:00:19.800 --> 1:00:21.680
<v Speaker 2>And so that was something that always bothered me because

1:00:21.680 --> 1:00:25.840
<v Speaker 2>I was a teenage parent and honestly, I didn't know

1:00:25.880 --> 1:00:28.120
<v Speaker 2>what parenting was. Bro Like, I was a little kid

1:00:28.240 --> 1:00:32.120
<v Speaker 2>having a kid. So when the where's the love moment happened,

1:00:32.520 --> 1:00:36.720
<v Speaker 2>that was when financially I was able to actually provide

1:00:36.840 --> 1:00:40.280
<v Speaker 2>a stable home for my son. Right although I had

1:00:40.440 --> 1:00:42.440
<v Speaker 2>help for my mom because I was still young, I

1:00:42.480 --> 1:00:44.880
<v Speaker 2>was a twenty one to twenty two, at least I

1:00:44.880 --> 1:00:47.760
<v Speaker 2>have some form of stability financially to be able to

1:00:47.800 --> 1:00:51.000
<v Speaker 2>take my son away from the way he was being

1:00:51.040 --> 1:00:53.040
<v Speaker 2>brought up, to be able to get him now a

1:00:53.080 --> 1:00:56.040
<v Speaker 2>home the way I was brought up. And so that

1:00:56.240 --> 1:00:58.880
<v Speaker 2>was like for me, that was a moment beyond any

1:00:58.960 --> 1:01:01.840
<v Speaker 2>Bentley moment or or any gold chain or you know.

1:01:01.880 --> 1:01:03.920
<v Speaker 2>And I bought a house, yeah, but it was like

1:01:04.080 --> 1:01:07.040
<v Speaker 2>taking care of Josh was like yo, I made it.

1:01:07.080 --> 1:01:08.880
<v Speaker 2>And it was because of that ways of love money

1:01:09.080 --> 1:01:11.600
<v Speaker 2>that brought me this opportunity to be a dad.

1:01:12.320 --> 1:01:13.720
<v Speaker 4>How old were you when you had Josh?

1:01:13.760 --> 1:01:17.000
<v Speaker 2>You said you were seventeen. I actually walked. I walked

1:01:17.040 --> 1:01:19.360
<v Speaker 2>my graduation with a son, bro Like, I was like

1:01:19.960 --> 1:01:23.440
<v Speaker 2>only it was crazy dude, and it was like, yeah, Okay,

1:01:23.520 --> 1:01:25.680
<v Speaker 2>this guy's not gonna make it. He's got a kid

1:01:25.720 --> 1:01:28.080
<v Speaker 2>at seventeen. But it also it gave me the fire

1:01:28.240 --> 1:01:29.960
<v Speaker 2>to be able to not give up on my dreams

1:01:30.000 --> 1:01:32.120
<v Speaker 2>and my aspirations even though I was a teen parent

1:01:32.320 --> 1:01:36.040
<v Speaker 2>and I'm not in any way form a fashion don't

1:01:36.080 --> 1:01:39.480
<v Speaker 2>e teen parents parenting, but I am saying like it

1:01:39.600 --> 1:01:42.000
<v Speaker 2>put a fire in my ass and it just like

1:01:42.160 --> 1:01:45.640
<v Speaker 2>that was like a Okay, now I got to come

1:01:45.720 --> 1:01:48.040
<v Speaker 2>to grips to be able to give my son a

1:01:48.080 --> 1:01:52.000
<v Speaker 2>better opportunity of life because I know that that's my motivation.

1:01:56.800 --> 1:01:59.880
<v Speaker 3>Of all those records, I would probably say that maybe

1:02:00.080 --> 1:02:04.880
<v Speaker 3>Monkey Business was probably the hardest to create because it's

1:02:05.000 --> 1:02:08.560
<v Speaker 3>like how do you keep the momentum up? Then that

1:02:08.600 --> 1:02:11.320
<v Speaker 3>becomes bigger, So I don't even want to go to

1:02:11.360 --> 1:02:15.040
<v Speaker 3>the to the E n D. But going into monkey Business,

1:02:15.440 --> 1:02:16.360
<v Speaker 3>what was the pressure?

1:02:16.440 --> 1:02:20.560
<v Speaker 2>Like, I mean, bro, like we uh we went in

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<v Speaker 2>there and actually tried to make hits elephant wasn't trying

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<v Speaker 2>to make his We're just making records like yo, what's

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<v Speaker 2>popping over there? Ship? What's what's what's uh? What's Timberland? Doing,

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<v Speaker 2>What's what's Pharrell doing? What's this person doing? Like it

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<v Speaker 2>was all over the place being students and like how

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<v Speaker 2>do we compete? And so records like Don't Lie, which

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<v Speaker 2>is my least favorite record, even though it was a smash.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't like performing it's just then we had Don't

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<v Speaker 2>Funk with My Heart, which is cool because we studied

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<v Speaker 2>Bollywood and we liked that frequency and we loved Leasa

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<v Speaker 2>Lisa and Code Jam love that record. I wonder if

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<v Speaker 2>I take yeah so that record and it was like, oh, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>this kind of sounds like weekends from Uh from from

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<v Speaker 2>Uh Bridging the Gap, which we sampled Debbie Dabb look

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<v Speaker 2>got weekends because here we come, and so there was

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<v Speaker 2>like a formula happening. And then we sampled dig Dale,

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<v Speaker 2>Misery Loot.

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<v Speaker 7>For Pump It, and then Will did my humps and

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<v Speaker 7>then we finished it off with with the James Brown Joint,

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<v Speaker 7>which is my favorite.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, talk about that session. I spun the ship out

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<v Speaker 3>that record when I was jealous, man, how did that happen?

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<v Speaker 2>We were at the mojo.

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<v Speaker 3>They don't want music, they don't want music.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, Boom that was our first Boom Boom song, and

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<v Speaker 2>mister Brown, as he liked to be referred to, mister Brown.

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<v Speaker 2>We met him at the Mobile Awards in London and

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<v Speaker 2>we're like, mister Brown, we're working on a new record

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<v Speaker 2>with huge fans. You know, b boys, we love what

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<v Speaker 2>you've done with you know, your work, blah blah blah,

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<v Speaker 2>giving them flowers. Well, I don't have to work with anybody,

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<v Speaker 2>but something says that I need to work with the

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<v Speaker 2>Black Eyed Peas yo yo.

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<v Speaker 1>Also, James Brown impressions.

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<v Speaker 2>It's it's it's trying, but but he says, Okay, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>gonna show up to the studio. We're recording at uh

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<v Speaker 2>Metropolis in London, Paramount No Metropolis Studios. He comes, he

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<v Speaker 2>has his whole entourage. Bro, when I tell you this

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<v Speaker 2>dude is a mega superstar. He walked in with the

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<v Speaker 2>lady that combs his hair. So he's sitting down Brown.

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<v Speaker 2>They bring out a mirror. The lady sits down, combs

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<v Speaker 2>his hair, and then he's like, okay, I'm ready. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't ready. So we're like okay, cool. So so so

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<v Speaker 2>our band. They go in there, they start doing their thing.

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<v Speaker 2>He's like no, no, no, everybody out. He brings his horn

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<v Speaker 2>players so his horn players are leading the dance. That's

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<v Speaker 2>that his horn players are leading the dance. We're like, oh, yo,

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<v Speaker 2>just let him do his thing. So like, what kind

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<v Speaker 2>of style can we bring to what James Brown's bringing

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<v Speaker 2>mister Brown's bringing? What about like that Greg nice and

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<v Speaker 2>that that nice smooth joint Yo Disney Gless. He plays

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<v Speaker 2>the sad like Max. So that's that's the frequency that

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<v Speaker 2>we tapped into for the rap part that Will is

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<v Speaker 2>doing with James Brown. And I just remember, like after

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<v Speaker 2>the session were breaking bread. He's sitting at the table

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<v Speaker 2>and he's talking to us and somebody comes over and

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<v Speaker 2>starts cutting his food. Like his meat is his steak.

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<v Speaker 2>He has someone to cut his steak, he has someone

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<v Speaker 2>to brush his hair, and then he goes like this,

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<v Speaker 2>so he comes and wipes his mouth.

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, wait a minute, hey, Steve, that's like

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<v Speaker 3>one of my favorite tracks of me too.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you. I mean that record just came so natural.

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<v Speaker 2>And the fact that we got tipped to start the song,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, it's he said something really special when we

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<v Speaker 2>were on the road. It was with him, Dave Chappelle.

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<v Speaker 2>He said, well, black Eyed Peas, we want you guys

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<v Speaker 2>to carry the baton of what we started and take

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<v Speaker 2>it international and all the stuff that you guys are

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<v Speaker 2>doing international, you guys are representing the essence of the

1:06:39.040 --> 1:06:41.720
<v Speaker 2>native tongue. So that was very important. That was around

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<v Speaker 2>that time, the monkey Business era. But during that time

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<v Speaker 2>we also got to tour with amazing rock groups. Can

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<v Speaker 2>I just tell you about the rocky.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I want to know what tour life was like

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<v Speaker 3>at this point in your life.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, we're touring with with with I mean seven Dust, uh,

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<v Speaker 2>no doubt, when Stefani lit Blink one eighty two, it

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<v Speaker 2>was just Dope Metallica. We were just toying with all

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<v Speaker 2>these amazing rock groups because those are the type of

1:07:16.680 --> 1:07:19.320
<v Speaker 2>festivals we were doing, and we're the only hip hop

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<v Speaker 2>group part of that that journey. So we learned how

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<v Speaker 2>to perform in front of the audiences that weren't necessarily

1:07:25.240 --> 1:07:29.480
<v Speaker 2>hip hop audiences, and so our pellet kind of expanded,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's why we had, you know, we worked with

1:07:31.640 --> 1:07:34.640
<v Speaker 2>Travis Barker, and we worked with popa Roach and all

1:07:34.640 --> 1:07:37.920
<v Speaker 2>these these rock groups so that we could learn how

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<v Speaker 2>to bring that frequency as well and just be students

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<v Speaker 2>of the game and learn how to perform in front

1:07:43.160 --> 1:07:46.000
<v Speaker 2>of these audiences that you know, you better be just

1:07:46.200 --> 1:07:49.520
<v Speaker 2>doing something other than just playing instruments or just rapping,

1:07:49.760 --> 1:07:52.240
<v Speaker 2>because they're gonna they're gonna tell you, they're gonna throw

1:07:52.240 --> 1:07:54.280
<v Speaker 2>stuff at you, they're gonna flip you off. So we

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<v Speaker 2>were learning how stage died, we're learning how to do

1:07:56.680 --> 1:07:59.720
<v Speaker 2>mosh pits all that stuff around Europe and and and

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<v Speaker 2>feeing us that we can bring that same rock energy

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<v Speaker 2>with with the Black Eyed Peas essence.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, this is a question I always wanted to know. Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>So for the longest I'll say that basically, before the

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<v Speaker 3>Internet kind of colonized the world and had us all

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<v Speaker 3>thinking like at the same time, whereas before you go

1:08:20.360 --> 1:08:24.320
<v Speaker 3>to different territories and this section of town didn't get

1:08:24.640 --> 1:08:27.400
<v Speaker 3>what New York has or that sort of thing. But

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<v Speaker 3>there was a moment where I remember, uh, when you

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<v Speaker 3>guys first came out. Uh, you guys went to Australia

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<v Speaker 3>and you did Big Day out right.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, loved it.

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<v Speaker 3>And I remember, uh Jurassic five telling me, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>we we've yet to go to Australia. They're like, yo, dog,

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<v Speaker 3>you got to come to Australia. Man, Like we play

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<v Speaker 3>stadiums over there, and I was like Jurassic five playing

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<v Speaker 3>the stadium. It's like no, dog, Like you don't get it.

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<v Speaker 3>Like the artists that are club artists in the United

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<v Speaker 3>States when they go to Australia, they're like mega And

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<v Speaker 3>he was like, yeah, man, Ben Harper plays stadiums and

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<v Speaker 3>it was like yoyo, Black Eyed Peas can set out

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<v Speaker 3>a stadium. I was like black the Black Eyed Peas

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<v Speaker 3>just opened for me last week to sound the stadium.

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<v Speaker 3>I literally I was like my mind was blown. But

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<v Speaker 3>for you, what was the feeling to get and and yes,

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<v Speaker 3>to put in context, like Australia is just different. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>they're not really controlled by like corporate radio the way

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<v Speaker 3>that it is over here with clear channel and you

1:09:41.320 --> 1:09:44.320
<v Speaker 3>know that sort of thing where playlists are determined, like

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<v Speaker 3>still DJ's played whole music over there, like a person

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<v Speaker 3>like Eric Abadu can still find space on pop radio

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<v Speaker 3>along with whoever is like Hitten and pop and that

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<v Speaker 3>sort of thing. Like they've always been balanced that way.

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<v Speaker 3>So as a result, a lot of the music that

1:10:00.520 --> 1:10:02.960
<v Speaker 3>we like, that's thee in underground music gets the same

1:10:03.080 --> 1:10:08.160
<v Speaker 3>platform that something mainstream is. But for you, like what

1:10:08.280 --> 1:10:14.200
<v Speaker 3>was the feeling in breaking breaking that ceiling and finally,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, getting to a point where I'm certain that

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<v Speaker 3>you know where Michael Jackson's like, hey, I'm a big

1:10:21.200 --> 1:10:23.320
<v Speaker 3>fan of you guys, and like what was that feeling?

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<v Speaker 3>Like like who are the people that you're meeting and

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<v Speaker 3>those sort of things.

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<v Speaker 2>So, so being able to travel to Australia, you're seeing

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<v Speaker 2>all these actors and actresses and kind of like the

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<v Speaker 2>the experience of the Oscars world. That's the transition of

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<v Speaker 2>going from like the music world to now meeting actors, actresses, directors.

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<v Speaker 2>That's actually where we met James Cameron. And so you're

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<v Speaker 2>meeting all these people and you're getting this after effect

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<v Speaker 2>of like yo, I didn't know they liked the music, right,

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<v Speaker 2>We're just we're just kind of like nomads, just traveling

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<v Speaker 2>and you don't feel the effects of the impact that

1:11:03.200 --> 1:11:05.200
<v Speaker 2>you're having because you're just doing You're just being you

1:11:05.320 --> 1:11:08.400
<v Speaker 2>and you're just creating music. So we were we were

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<v Speaker 2>just embracing the beauty that was Australia and is Australia

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<v Speaker 2>because they supported us before any before anyone actually gave

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<v Speaker 2>us that then Flowers, it was Australia and New Zealand.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me show you something. Yes, this is my first

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<v Speaker 2>plaque bridging back to New Zealand. This is the first

1:11:27.840 --> 1:11:33.240
<v Speaker 2>plaque that actually got gold. Wow. So that being said,

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<v Speaker 2>in New Zealand and Australia, they had love for us

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<v Speaker 2>before any any domestics, so especially on our first earlier

1:11:39.920 --> 1:11:43.000
<v Speaker 2>work with Behind the Front of Bridge the Gap, so

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<v Speaker 2>you know, it just it just affirmed everything that we

1:11:46.680 --> 1:11:49.000
<v Speaker 2>had been doing. We had been working towards being able

1:11:49.160 --> 1:11:52.200
<v Speaker 2>to tour the world and be international and just bring

1:11:52.200 --> 1:11:57.640
<v Speaker 2>that energy. And I would say Australia was probably the

1:11:57.720 --> 1:12:00.400
<v Speaker 2>place where we spent most time because we did the

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<v Speaker 2>big day out for months right and every year we

1:12:03.520 --> 1:12:05.840
<v Speaker 2>did it up until that point when they stopped doing it.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, So I have a theory about mega songs. Every

1:12:12.360 --> 1:12:15.120
<v Speaker 3>mega song that I've ever known from Louis Louis to

1:12:15.520 --> 1:12:21.599
<v Speaker 3>shout to Tequila, like mega song songs that will never die.

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<v Speaker 3>The story always starts the same where it's like we

1:12:25.280 --> 1:12:27.519
<v Speaker 3>created that in like twenty minutes, Like we didn't really

1:12:27.560 --> 1:12:33.479
<v Speaker 3>put calculated thought in it. You're co creator of a

1:12:33.640 --> 1:12:38.960
<v Speaker 3>mega song like long after Life Ends or whatever. Like

1:12:39.240 --> 1:12:42.479
<v Speaker 3>I seriously doubt that I got a feeling will ever

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<v Speaker 3>go away or not be played at any function, be

1:12:47.920 --> 1:12:53.760
<v Speaker 3>it wedding, celebration, barbarments. Yeah, the amount of times I've

1:12:53.760 --> 1:12:56.800
<v Speaker 3>had to spend it as a DJ. What was the

1:12:56.800 --> 1:12:58.120
<v Speaker 3>process in making that song?

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<v Speaker 2>I just remember we'll talking about what's that song we're building,

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<v Speaker 2>what's that song that plays at every freaking sporting events, wedding,

1:13:08.720 --> 1:13:11.720
<v Speaker 2>the earth Winding Fire song, And I'm like, September, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>we need something like that in that space where it's

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<v Speaker 2>like everywhere, it's playing everywhere. Yo. We need something like say,

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<v Speaker 2>celebrate good time, come on, yeah, we do. We need

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<v Speaker 2>we need something that's like gonna live sporting events, colleges. Yo,

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<v Speaker 2>We're gonna make a college anthem. Yo. College. Oh shit,

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<v Speaker 2>let's make a college anthem. And it's the first time

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<v Speaker 2>that we had ever created a song where all of

1:13:40.000 --> 1:13:43.040
<v Speaker 2>us are singing at the same time. We had never

1:13:43.080 --> 1:13:46.400
<v Speaker 2>done before because every single song, like you said earlier, Amir,

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<v Speaker 2>we have each one has a verse or you know,

1:13:49.560 --> 1:13:52.160
<v Speaker 2>you have like a bridge or something. But in this song,

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<v Speaker 2>we strategically said, we want the energy of this song

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<v Speaker 2>to feel like one right. So I remember David Gheta

1:14:02.080 --> 1:14:05.760
<v Speaker 2>sent the track to Will he's like, oh, I have

1:14:05.800 --> 1:14:09.920
<v Speaker 2>this remix for the Love is Gone. Right now that

1:14:10.040 --> 1:14:12.920
<v Speaker 2>the love is gone, remember that song? So this is

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<v Speaker 2>the remix track to that song.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, he didn't use it.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh really, yeah, he didn't use it. He's like, you

1:14:20.960 --> 1:14:24.679
<v Speaker 2>guys can use it. So we used that track and

1:14:25.000 --> 1:14:29.479
<v Speaker 2>Will came up with that chorus, and then we all

1:14:29.680 --> 1:14:32.000
<v Speaker 2>came to the studio and we started jumping around. Like

1:14:32.040 --> 1:14:34.280
<v Speaker 2>I said, when we started jumping around, that's when you

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<v Speaker 2>know it's something. The first time we performed it, it

1:14:38.479 --> 1:14:42.120
<v Speaker 2>was a disaster. Who performed at the Tangle It was horrible.

1:14:42.320 --> 1:14:42.920
<v Speaker 3>Where was it?

1:14:43.000 --> 1:14:49.200
<v Speaker 2>Wango Tangle Kiss Fama Ryan Seacrest, It was like I

1:14:49.240 --> 1:14:52.840
<v Speaker 2>want to say it was. It was in in Anaheim.

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<v Speaker 2>We performed it and people are likeive, no, We're like discouraged.

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<v Speaker 3>No.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like, oh, this might not be the one. Maybe

1:15:02.200 --> 1:15:06.160
<v Speaker 2>it's this other Boom Boom Pal song. There was a

1:15:06.280 --> 1:15:09.920
<v Speaker 2>knockout punch Boomoom Pal came first, right right, That was

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<v Speaker 2>at number one for like twelve weeks. Yeah, so we're like, yo,

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<v Speaker 2>how do we outdo Boom Boom Pow? Because that was like, bro,

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<v Speaker 2>we already we're already at number one twelve weeks and

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<v Speaker 2>then we came with it. I got a filling and

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<v Speaker 2>then it just knocked it out and it just stayed

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<v Speaker 2>on the charts. And then we're doing all the award shows,

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<v Speaker 2>all the the uh you know, all the sporting events.

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<v Speaker 2>We did the Super Bowl, we did the World Cup.

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<v Speaker 2>That song is blowing up everywhere. And then it just

1:15:42.080 --> 1:15:44.240
<v Speaker 2>let us know that something that we thought was gonna

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<v Speaker 2>be a college anthem became an anthem that the national Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it's an anthem forever. So you know, No, we didn't

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<v Speaker 2>do it in twenty seconds or twenty minutes or five minutes.

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<v Speaker 2>It was done. It was It was a nice process. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>it was quick, but the idea that we wanted to

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<v Speaker 2>present to the world was something that was very unison

1:16:03.760 --> 1:16:08.360
<v Speaker 2>and very connected as one. And that's why that representation

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<v Speaker 2>of us doing the lyrics together is a synonymous for

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<v Speaker 2>that song, how it brings everyone together.

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<v Speaker 3>When you're having this level of success. And again, like

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<v Speaker 3>the question was like, can you guys, I'll do Elephunk okay,

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<v Speaker 3>can you guys, I'll do monkey business? Okay? Can you

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<v Speaker 3>I'll do the end? At any point? And you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I know that you went through this in your memoir,

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<v Speaker 3>But what was the point where like this wasn't fun anymore?

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<v Speaker 3>Or it has it ever been a time where it's

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<v Speaker 3>just like, was there ever a be careful for what

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<v Speaker 3>you ask or wish for a moment for you?

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<v Speaker 2>Right? For me? Will an App. I'm only speaking for

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<v Speaker 2>us because you know, I can't say anything of the

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<v Speaker 2>ladies that journeyed with us because maybe they have the

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<v Speaker 2>same experience. But I love being on that stage with

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<v Speaker 2>my brothers, bro, Like that's like our livelihood. When we're

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<v Speaker 2>on stage. We're seventeen year old kids that just love

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<v Speaker 2>performing and love you know, creating music and performing for

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<v Speaker 2>the world. So there's never a moment, there's never a

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<v Speaker 2>moment other than that moment when we took a break.

1:17:27.280 --> 1:17:32.080
<v Speaker 2>That shit was bullshit, bro, That's like suicide. That eight

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<v Speaker 2>year break. That a year break from twenty eleven to

1:17:36.600 --> 1:17:39.599
<v Speaker 2>twenty nineteen when we put out Reepmore with j Balbin,

1:17:39.640 --> 1:17:43.760
<v Speaker 2>when Sylvia Rone signed us from Interscope to Sony, and

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<v Speaker 2>then we had success with Sylvia Ron and reinvented ourselves

1:17:47.479 --> 1:17:50.960
<v Speaker 2>as a trio, which that's how we started. But that

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<v Speaker 2>time period of being away for eight years, yes, I

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<v Speaker 2>got cancer in twenty fourteen. But man, we were very

1:17:58.080 --> 1:18:02.960
<v Speaker 2>lucky to come out of that, that your hiatus, because

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<v Speaker 2>usually groups are gone for eight years. They're gone. There's

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<v Speaker 2>no way you could come back. Do we come back

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<v Speaker 2>at a filling level? No?

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<v Speaker 3>How has that conversation happened? Are you guys actively communicating

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<v Speaker 3>with each other and saying like, hey, need a break,

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<v Speaker 3>need to have some me time, Well reconvene.

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<v Speaker 2>No, it was it was. It wasn't a choice that

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<v Speaker 2>me and Will and Apple had the I'm just being

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<v Speaker 2>honest with you, guys, that's the reality. We would have

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<v Speaker 2>kept going. We're at the height of our career. Why stop?

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<v Speaker 2>But I get it, you know, not all of us

1:18:38.960 --> 1:18:42.680
<v Speaker 2>wanted to continue. And so that being said, when it

1:18:42.720 --> 1:18:45.479
<v Speaker 2>came back to coming back to wanting to do music again,

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<v Speaker 2>this is after I battled cancer. I reached out to Will,

1:18:49.600 --> 1:18:51.840
<v Speaker 2>I reached out to Apple, I reached out to Ferg.

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<v Speaker 2>I said, yo, I'm ready. I need I need this

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<v Speaker 2>to red like I need I need my healing performing

1:18:58.600 --> 1:19:01.080
<v Speaker 2>Black Eyed Peas. We need to do it again. Will

1:19:01.120 --> 1:19:06.439
<v Speaker 2>and Apple were like, let's go. And that's what it is. Me,

1:19:06.560 --> 1:19:08.720
<v Speaker 2>Will and Apple are going. And that's how it's going

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<v Speaker 2>to be. And fortunately at that time Apple the app

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<v Speaker 2>met a singer from the Philippines named Ja Ray soul Right,

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<v Speaker 2>and she was a young artist that inspired him to

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<v Speaker 2>be able to bring her to the US and give

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<v Speaker 2>her an opportunity to be able to to you know,

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<v Speaker 2>to journey with the Black Eyed Peas and just be

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<v Speaker 2>part of this amazing new I guess you can save

1:19:31.080 --> 1:19:33.920
<v Speaker 2>this new lease on life because, like I said, we

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<v Speaker 2>were on Interscope and then we got dropped, and then

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<v Speaker 2>we got picked up by Silvia Rohan.

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<v Speaker 3>Explain to me the process of getting dropped by Interscope

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<v Speaker 3>when you're literally one of their biggest money makers.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, Jimmy was gone, bro, Like Jimmy was now beats World.

1:19:48.840 --> 1:19:50.680
<v Speaker 2>He's like, I don't have anything to do with So

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<v Speaker 2>who took over? John Janet and Steve Berman Berman?

1:19:56.000 --> 1:20:02.080
<v Speaker 3>Oh damn, Okay, I believe Burman is the cat if

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<v Speaker 3>you remember the Dre Day video, Yeah, when he's playing

1:20:06.600 --> 1:20:09.280
<v Speaker 3>the role with Jerry Heller. I didn't realize, like, wow,

1:20:09.320 --> 1:20:11.200
<v Speaker 3>Berman took over in Scope. Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So we put out Master of the Sun and

1:20:13.520 --> 1:20:17.000
<v Speaker 2>they're like, this ain't it. This is not what we

1:20:17.040 --> 1:20:20.760
<v Speaker 2>want from Black Eyed Peas and so the album was

1:20:20.800 --> 1:20:25.640
<v Speaker 2>great but not today. So in their eyes it was

1:20:25.680 --> 1:20:29.280
<v Speaker 2>a failure. It wasn't what they expected. And so they're like,

1:20:29.320 --> 1:20:31.639
<v Speaker 2>you know what, we're going to part ways. I think

1:20:31.680 --> 1:20:34.559
<v Speaker 2>we've exhausted all the energy the years. Thank you for

1:20:34.600 --> 1:20:38.599
<v Speaker 2>all your contribution, but we're not going to renew the contract.

1:20:38.840 --> 1:20:41.280
<v Speaker 2>So me, Will and Apple were like, yo, what what

1:20:41.320 --> 1:20:43.799
<v Speaker 2>are we going to do? And like Will always does,

1:20:44.400 --> 1:20:48.040
<v Speaker 2>Will's like, don't worry about it, guys, We're going to

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<v Speaker 2>figure it out. So I trust him since I was seventeen,

1:20:51.640 --> 1:20:55.000
<v Speaker 2>he's always been the don't worry about it, guys. We're

1:20:55.000 --> 1:20:59.240
<v Speaker 2>going to figure it out. And that energy was like, yeah,

1:20:59.280 --> 1:21:01.080
<v Speaker 2>we are going to figure it out. It's all good.

1:21:01.200 --> 1:21:05.200
<v Speaker 2>We got songs, we got you know, relationships. So we

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<v Speaker 2>had this song called Retmo that we recorded with Jay

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<v Speaker 2>Bowin right, So I remember Zeke from from Sony comes

1:21:11.760 --> 1:21:14.960
<v Speaker 2>to the studio and he hears it and he's like, yo,

1:21:15.040 --> 1:21:18.719
<v Speaker 2>I'm working on this this soundtrack. Would love this song

1:21:18.800 --> 1:21:22.960
<v Speaker 2>to be part of the soundtrack, and so Will was like, yeah,

1:21:22.960 --> 1:21:24.800
<v Speaker 2>but we want this for us, like we want this

1:21:24.840 --> 1:21:27.080
<v Speaker 2>to be a Black Eyed Pea joint off of our

1:21:27.120 --> 1:21:30.040
<v Speaker 2>new project. He's like, well, what label are you on.

1:21:30.080 --> 1:21:32.280
<v Speaker 2>He's like, We're not on the label. So he leaves

1:21:32.320 --> 1:21:35.920
<v Speaker 2>the studio called Sylvia Rome. Sylvie Roon shows up to

1:21:35.960 --> 1:21:40.080
<v Speaker 2>the studio. Will plays the record for her and she's like, great,

1:21:40.160 --> 1:21:42.679
<v Speaker 2>I love this record. Let's put it on the Bad

1:21:42.720 --> 1:21:47.040
<v Speaker 2>Boys three soundtrack with Martin Lawrence and Will Smith before

1:21:47.080 --> 1:21:52.160
<v Speaker 2>the slap and so he does that. Zeke is like, Yo,

1:21:52.240 --> 1:21:54.160
<v Speaker 2>this is this is the future of Black Eyed Peas,

1:21:54.200 --> 1:21:57.559
<v Speaker 2>this whole Latin afrobeat fusion whatever you guys are doing

1:21:57.680 --> 1:22:00.760
<v Speaker 2>this with this frequency. It's international and it's popping right now.

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<v Speaker 2>We're gonna sign black Eyed Peace soon to epic. So

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<v Speaker 2>we get signed. We we create this album, which was Translation,

1:22:09.960 --> 1:22:12.160
<v Speaker 2>which we put out during the pandemic. We still put

1:22:12.160 --> 1:22:14.040
<v Speaker 2>out a record. We had songs like bro Like Me

1:22:14.080 --> 1:22:19.560
<v Speaker 2>with Shaquita, We had Mamasita Withosuno via the Loco with

1:22:19.680 --> 1:22:23.320
<v Speaker 2>Nikki Jam and Tiga. So all these records just represented

1:22:23.360 --> 1:22:25.840
<v Speaker 2>where we were at in that state of our career

1:22:26.040 --> 1:22:29.599
<v Speaker 2>and how we were inspired by these Latin affrobeat rhythms

1:22:29.640 --> 1:22:32.600
<v Speaker 2>that were happening around the world, and so that was

1:22:32.720 --> 1:22:35.160
<v Speaker 2>kind of our nod to that. And then We created

1:22:35.240 --> 1:22:38.920
<v Speaker 2>another record which we put out called Elevation, and that

1:22:38.960 --> 1:22:42.479
<v Speaker 2>one featured Don't You Worry with Shaquita and David Ghetta,

1:22:42.640 --> 1:22:44.799
<v Speaker 2>and then we did a record with Anita from Brazil

1:22:44.880 --> 1:22:47.360
<v Speaker 2>and Alalfa and the next record we're dropping is with

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<v Speaker 2>Daddy Yankee.

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<v Speaker 3>After having done it all, like, what is what is

1:22:52.280 --> 1:22:55.840
<v Speaker 3>left for you as far as like in terms of

1:22:55.880 --> 1:22:57.920
<v Speaker 3>what you would like to achieve with the group.

1:22:58.840 --> 1:23:03.680
<v Speaker 2>With the group Docus series, be able to make the

1:23:03.840 --> 1:23:07.280
<v Speaker 2>Black Eyed Peas movie, whatever that means, do it in

1:23:07.320 --> 1:23:10.000
<v Speaker 2>a way where it's like stranger things fantasy, kind.

1:23:09.840 --> 1:23:12.120
<v Speaker 3>Of to be a scripted series like that. I don't

1:23:12.120 --> 1:23:13.920
<v Speaker 3>think it's a movie, it's a it's a series.

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<v Speaker 2>Like the Beatles did a docu series, like the Beatles

1:23:17.280 --> 1:23:21.400
<v Speaker 2>did a Yellow Submarine, where it's kind of like mystic magical,

1:23:23.280 --> 1:23:27.559
<v Speaker 2>you know, something like that, whereas you can add fantasy

1:23:27.640 --> 1:23:30.080
<v Speaker 2>because we're big sci fi guys. We love stranger things

1:23:30.080 --> 1:23:33.679
<v Speaker 2>and just that whole creativity of creating stuff that's not

1:23:33.880 --> 1:23:36.360
<v Speaker 2>just a typical like oh, these are hip hop kids,

1:23:36.360 --> 1:23:38.400
<v Speaker 2>and then they became popular around the world. It's like,

1:23:38.520 --> 1:23:41.479
<v Speaker 2>now we want to tell all these amazing stories like

1:23:41.760 --> 1:23:46.200
<v Speaker 2>cancer survivor and tech guy. He's the he calls himself

1:23:46.200 --> 1:23:48.080
<v Speaker 2>the Black iron Man because he's all about tech. And

1:23:48.120 --> 1:23:50.320
<v Speaker 2>then you got this kid from the Philippines who was

1:23:50.320 --> 1:23:53.080
<v Speaker 2>a farmer that didn't speak English and came to America.

1:23:53.439 --> 1:23:55.639
<v Speaker 2>First person he met was where I am. So all

1:23:55.680 --> 1:23:58.840
<v Speaker 2>these crazy stories. It's a little bit sensation wise, and

1:23:58.880 --> 1:24:02.280
<v Speaker 2>it's it's entertaining and and and still appealing to the eye.

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<v Speaker 3>I see, I see, well, man, dude, this is definitely

1:24:10.840 --> 1:24:12.519
<v Speaker 3>worth the wait, and for you know, this is like

1:24:12.560 --> 1:24:14.559
<v Speaker 3>our first in depth conversation with each other.

1:24:14.600 --> 1:24:14.760
<v Speaker 1>Man.

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<v Speaker 3>So I'm really glad that we got this. Wait, Steve,

1:24:16.920 --> 1:24:17.760
<v Speaker 3>you're about to say something.

1:24:18.320 --> 1:24:20.720
<v Speaker 6>No, I was about to come wipe wipe something off

1:24:20.760 --> 1:24:21.120
<v Speaker 6>your mouth.

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<v Speaker 2>That's there. I just want to do a little, a

1:24:31.439 --> 1:24:34.880
<v Speaker 2>little promo real quick on something that me. So I

1:24:34.920 --> 1:24:37.920
<v Speaker 2>invested in this company called a Kid's Book, about which

1:24:38.439 --> 1:24:41.439
<v Speaker 2>you already I sent it to you. The first book

1:24:41.479 --> 1:24:43.760
<v Speaker 2>that I wrote is called the Kid's Book about Identity.

1:24:43.800 --> 1:24:46.280
<v Speaker 2>And then we have a whole series of other books, like,

1:24:46.760 --> 1:24:51.880
<v Speaker 2>you know, a kid's book about mindfulness, its book about addiction,

1:24:54.920 --> 1:24:59.000
<v Speaker 2>book about anxiety, and it's all about having uncomfortable conversations

1:24:59.040 --> 1:25:03.679
<v Speaker 2>with kids because a lot of times parents tiptoe around

1:25:03.680 --> 1:25:06.800
<v Speaker 2>these conversations, and so we said, no, why don't we

1:25:06.880 --> 1:25:10.280
<v Speaker 2>have these these books where we actually unlock those and

1:25:10.320 --> 1:25:13.639
<v Speaker 2>make it a comfortable conversation out of something that's very

1:25:13.720 --> 1:25:17.599
<v Speaker 2>uncomfortable to some families. And so, you know, it's just

1:25:17.640 --> 1:25:20.760
<v Speaker 2>it's something that I invested in because I want to

1:25:20.800 --> 1:25:23.040
<v Speaker 2>be able to give back. Just like I'm telling you, dude,

1:25:23.120 --> 1:25:26.960
<v Speaker 2>Kobe really inspired me being with Kobe, being around him

1:25:26.960 --> 1:25:30.080
<v Speaker 2>and seeing how he went from being a basketball player

1:25:30.080 --> 1:25:33.720
<v Speaker 2>to actually being you know, winning an oscar, just like

1:25:33.840 --> 1:25:39.639
<v Speaker 2>you writing books, almost creating an animation studio for inspired

1:25:39.640 --> 1:25:40.280
<v Speaker 2>by his daughter.

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<v Speaker 1>So this is just so, what's the name of the

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<v Speaker 1>book series.

1:25:46.800 --> 1:25:47.800
<v Speaker 2>A kid's book about?

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<v Speaker 6>And where do we find that online?

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<v Speaker 2>We get that on Amazon's Kids book About dot com.

1:25:56.360 --> 1:26:01.080
<v Speaker 2>And basically it's all these different writers out there kids

1:26:01.120 --> 1:26:04.240
<v Speaker 2>that are doing the forward so that they that you

1:26:04.400 --> 1:26:06.759
<v Speaker 2>empower the kids to really be part of this journey

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<v Speaker 2>along with the books that I'm writing for Marvel. Being

1:26:10.600 --> 1:26:12.880
<v Speaker 2>an author is very important to me because then I'm

1:26:12.920 --> 1:26:15.800
<v Speaker 2>able to inspire just like we did with lyrics, Like

1:26:15.880 --> 1:26:19.040
<v Speaker 2>now I'm putting that same energy in that same approach

1:26:19.120 --> 1:26:22.080
<v Speaker 2>to writing. Eventually, wanted to do my own script and

1:26:22.160 --> 1:26:25.960
<v Speaker 2>create the first Native American feature film that will live

1:26:26.280 --> 1:26:28.960
<v Speaker 2>in that same Marvel space that Black Panther lives. So

1:26:29.600 --> 1:26:32.720
<v Speaker 2>that's my goal, and I'm doing my due diligence. I'm

1:26:32.720 --> 1:26:35.320
<v Speaker 2>putting in the groundwork and putting in my ten thousand

1:26:35.400 --> 1:26:39.360
<v Speaker 2>hours to be able to transition from music into being

1:26:39.800 --> 1:26:43.720
<v Speaker 2>a creator and a screenwriter and eventually one day on

1:26:43.800 --> 1:26:45.400
<v Speaker 2>wood are directed.

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<v Speaker 4>Film Make it Up.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, you lived a life in which you know

1:26:51.120 --> 1:26:54.559
<v Speaker 3>you may moves with no trepidation and you know you

1:26:54.640 --> 1:26:57.000
<v Speaker 3>put your foot forward, so that's definitely going to happen.

1:26:57.439 --> 1:27:01.120
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, brother, I appreciate that. And again, uh fante, thank

1:27:01.160 --> 1:27:03.120
<v Speaker 2>you man, thank you for the inspiration. I hope you

1:27:03.160 --> 1:27:08.240
<v Speaker 2>feel better. Oh yeah, I want to say Tarique and

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<v Speaker 2>Pharaoh Munch my two favorite ms of all time, of

1:27:12.280 --> 1:27:12.599
<v Speaker 2>all time.

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<v Speaker 8>I shall relate that to and And honestly, we didn't

1:27:16.560 --> 1:27:18.599
<v Speaker 8>we didn't touch on daylight, bro, And that was something

1:27:18.680 --> 1:27:21.160
<v Speaker 8>very important because when you text me about about Dave

1:27:21.240 --> 1:27:23.840
<v Speaker 8>and that that piece you guys put together, everybody put together,

1:27:23.880 --> 1:27:25.000
<v Speaker 8>that was beautiful, man, So.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, thank you for being a part of that.

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<v Speaker 7>Man.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I want to dedicate this one to Dave bro

1:27:29.520 --> 1:27:32.880
<v Speaker 2>and his impact that he had on all of us

1:27:32.960 --> 1:27:35.040
<v Speaker 2>and what Daylight means to us. And now with their

1:27:35.120 --> 1:27:40.000
<v Speaker 2>music being on all streaming platforms, I'm proud of Postinus

1:27:40.040 --> 1:27:41.439
<v Speaker 2>and Mace and Dave.

1:27:41.840 --> 1:27:44.439
<v Speaker 3>I'm still listening to music like like It just came

1:27:44.439 --> 1:27:48.559
<v Speaker 3>out yesterday. Well on behalf of the QLs crew, on

1:27:48.840 --> 1:27:55.000
<v Speaker 3>Behaving laya cousin, Jake, Telo, Steve and Unpaid Bill came

1:27:55.000 --> 1:27:58.840
<v Speaker 3>home from a cigarette. Thank you, Taboo, thank you for

1:27:58.960 --> 1:28:01.679
<v Speaker 3>joining us and this is us Love. We will see

1:28:01.720 --> 1:28:03.679
<v Speaker 3>you on the next go around, of course, Love Supreme,

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