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Speaker 1: look at Fonte team, my man, what what up? Fonte? Brother?

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Speaker 1: an honor to meet you. Brother. No, no, I mean

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Speaker 1: I started with humility, brothers, because you guys, you guys

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Speaker 1: welcome to another exciting episode of Question lest Supreme. I'm

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Speaker 1: your host, Question Love. We have Fine Tikolo in the house. Brother.

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Speaker 1: How's it going all right? Man? I'm cool, just resting

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Speaker 1: to Thank you a lot Yo. First of all, I

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Speaker 1: I will shine light on it and be like, yo,

426
00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:43,000
Speaker 1: we need that more hip hop community. I see a

427
00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:47,520
Speaker 1: lot of our pioneers that are not taking care of themselves. Yeah,

428
00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:50,280
Speaker 1: I'm like, yo, you know what I'm saying. And I'm

429
00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:52,840
Speaker 1: a fan of these pioneers and some of them just

430
00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:55,640
Speaker 1: you know, and it's sad because with a little bit

431
00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:58,320
Speaker 1: of prevention with a little bit of a conversation and

432
00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:02,960
Speaker 1: communication which can hope bring that light. Like that's something

433
00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:06,000
Speaker 1: that you know, I would like to do that for

434
00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:10,280
Speaker 1: for communities, just like just like what Lance Armstrong and

435
00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:13,360
Speaker 1: I know the whole scandal was whacking. It just ended

436
00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:16,520
Speaker 1: up like bullshit, right, But if I can be that

437
00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:20,520
Speaker 1: conduit of hope with my experience so that folks don't

438
00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:22,800
Speaker 1: have to go through it and can prevent it, just

439
00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:25,199
Speaker 1: like what you said a mirror, You're like, oh, I

440
00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:28,120
Speaker 1: saw your story and I'm like, fock, okay, it's fifty one. Okay,

441
00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:30,720
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do it. Maybe it was a little nudge

442
00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:33,520
Speaker 1: that you didn't even expect it. Maybe because you saw

443
00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:35,639
Speaker 1: what I went through, You're like, you know what, all right,

444
00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:37,840
Speaker 1: let me go get chests. Definitely a nudge. It is

445
00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:39,840
Speaker 1: the nudge that finally made me call my doctor and

446
00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:41,879
Speaker 1: being like all right, I'm coming in let me you know,

447
00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:44,919
Speaker 1: so I want to credit you with that. Yeah, man,

448
00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:48,000
Speaker 1: it's a conversation that that I think is healthy to have.

449
00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:50,920
Speaker 1: It's holistic. It's a way that we can we can

450
00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:53,800
Speaker 1: bring something that that you're you're trying to support and

451
00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:57,560
Speaker 1: nurture the idea of just wanting to see your people

452
00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:01,800
Speaker 1: succeed and not only music or art, but also in

453
00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:09,840
Speaker 1: taking care of themselves. Now, I'm really going to start style.

454
00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:13,160
Speaker 1: Where were you born? I was born in East Los Angeles,

455
00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:17,800
Speaker 1: Ball Heights, California. Okay, yeah, what's your what's you know

456
00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:20,639
Speaker 1: for you? What's your memories of what your childhood was?

457
00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:26,240
Speaker 1: My grandmother, my grandmother was a beautiful Native woman from Jerome, Arizona.

458
00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:30,040
Speaker 1: She represented her roots to the to the tea. She

459
00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:33,760
Speaker 1: was all about being a service, sometimes to her own detriment,

460
00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:37,040
Speaker 1: her own health, which taught me a lot about like, hey,

461
00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:39,920
Speaker 1: I'm gonna help, but I'm not gonna put my health

462
00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:43,359
Speaker 1: before anybody else. Um. She was all about the arts

463
00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:46,000
Speaker 1: and music and dancing. It goes hand in hand with

464
00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:48,440
Speaker 1: our ancestry. You know, we used dancing as a way

465
00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:51,680
Speaker 1: of prayer healing. If you look at an old power

466
00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:55,280
Speaker 1: out style dancers, a lot of it is just stories

467
00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:58,280
Speaker 1: that are being told through their their style and their expression,

468
00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:00,800
Speaker 1: and they use that as a former healing in prayer

469
00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:04,400
Speaker 1: and so growing up, my grandmother kind of instilled that

470
00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:08,720
Speaker 1: that dancing performing mentality at five years old, and I

471
00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:11,480
Speaker 1: would be dancing to like you know, craft work and

472
00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:17,280
Speaker 1: African Bambada and you know, um, I got into craft

473
00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:20,200
Speaker 1: work because of African Bambada and soconic Force. I started

474
00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:24,760
Speaker 1: understanding studying where that whole electronic style came from. And

475
00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:27,360
Speaker 1: then after that I saw, you know, when we saw

476
00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:32,280
Speaker 1: breaking and he saw what's the name doing the freaking? Like, Yo,

477
00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:35,159
Speaker 1: what's that? Oh wait, that's craft work? Wait a minute.

478
00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:38,080
Speaker 1: So I started doing a deep dive into like not

479
00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:40,240
Speaker 1: just hip hop culture, but also where it comes from

480
00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:44,520
Speaker 1: and where that electronic vibe came from, so you know,

481
00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:47,320
Speaker 1: and and growing up, I started really sharpening my swords

482
00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:51,480
Speaker 1: as a b board breaking being inspired by breakers like

483
00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:54,480
Speaker 1: Crazy Legs and the rock Steady Crew from from New York,

484
00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:57,480
Speaker 1: but also a lot of dancers from from the West

485
00:27:57,520 --> 00:28:03,359
Speaker 1: Coast like Popping Pete Boggaou Shrimp Um, Jeffrey Daniels who

486
00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:06,240
Speaker 1: was part of Shelamar, he was doing Feller, you know

487
00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:08,399
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like he was ill with it. He

488
00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:11,240
Speaker 1: taught Mike MJ a lot of the stuff. Um, but

489
00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:15,520
Speaker 1: also like Leg one, Leg two, MC Lights Dancers, Mission

490
00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:19,400
Speaker 1: Impossible Special LEDs dancers, Uh, you know kid in play

491
00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:23,560
Speaker 1: to scheme team, which is Divine Stylers dancers, So Brothers

492
00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:28,400
Speaker 1: that was Deaf Jeff's dancers. Yeah yeah, yeah, the far side,

493
00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:31,680
Speaker 1: you know, and I mean the mop tops from buddhas

494
00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:34,119
Speaker 1: Stretch from from New York. Like, I had such an

495
00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:37,920
Speaker 1: innate love for for freestyle dance, and then it got

496
00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:40,680
Speaker 1: into housing. Once housing came in, I was like, Yo,

497
00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:43,040
Speaker 1: what's this Because when I heard the Ginger Brothers said

498
00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:46,320
Speaker 1: say girl, our house you I was like housing. And

499
00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:49,760
Speaker 1: I started doing research on like soho and hot hot

500
00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:53,640
Speaker 1: music music Hot from Doom Dude. I was like, Yo,

501
00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:56,200
Speaker 1: what's that style? So I started seeing these different styles

502
00:28:56,440 --> 00:29:00,120
Speaker 1: herp Alpert North on South Street, watching those videos and

503
00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:03,640
Speaker 1: really immersing myself in the art foom a dance. And

504
00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:08,160
Speaker 1: then I started studying the great Nicholas Brothers, James Brown,

505
00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:13,280
Speaker 1: Sammy Davis, Bob Fosse, all these amazing dancers that came

506
00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:17,280
Speaker 1: from from the past, and I started incorporating these styles

507
00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:21,520
Speaker 1: and wanted to bring this this hip hop clash of

508
00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:26,240
Speaker 1: like all these unique frequencies of movement. And so that

509
00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:29,040
Speaker 1: was my upbringing. Man, That's what I that's what I remember.

510
00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:31,640
Speaker 1: This is before me even meeting Will and Apple. Before

511
00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:34,120
Speaker 1: we even became Black Eyed Peas, I started a group

512
00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:37,800
Speaker 1: called Divine Tribal Brothers, and of course who were sons

513
00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:41,640
Speaker 1: of tribe, and we loved the Jungle Brothers. So Tribal

514
00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:47,880
Speaker 1: Brothers right right, Will and Apple were tribal nation because

515
00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:52,680
Speaker 1: Zulu nation and you know trip call quests. So eventually

516
00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:55,520
Speaker 1: we became a crew and the name of our crew

517
00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:57,480
Speaker 1: was Grassroots. And when we're trying to do like the

518
00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:00,720
Speaker 1: Native tongues in the West Coast, because we were so

519
00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:04,000
Speaker 1: inspired by the native tongues. It wasn't just your grandmother,

520
00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:06,240
Speaker 1: was it mom and dad in the picture? Like who

521
00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:08,680
Speaker 1: was who was it? My mom was in the picture,

522
00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:10,560
Speaker 1: but you know she was she was born in East La.

523
00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:14,600
Speaker 1: Very typical mom from from East La. She she was.

524
00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:18,880
Speaker 1: She didn't see it like my grandmother saw it. She knew.

525
00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:20,440
Speaker 1: She's like, you get on the stage and you give

526
00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:23,880
Speaker 1: the best version of yourself and don't ever stop fighting

527
00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:27,280
Speaker 1: when you're on that stage. Right, So that b boy mentality,

528
00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:30,600
Speaker 1: that killer, that apex predator mentality, battle came from my

529
00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:35,120
Speaker 1: grandmother's will and her energy. Like, yeah, I loved Michael

530
00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:38,560
Speaker 1: Jordan and you know Magic Johnson and all these sports

531
00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:41,040
Speaker 1: figures and Bruce Lee was a big, huge inspiration. I

532
00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:44,760
Speaker 1: love Kung Foot movies, Marsha black Bell Theater, loved Billy

533
00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:48,160
Speaker 1: Jack Um you know, love watching those old school eighties

534
00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:51,960
Speaker 1: movies too. But my grandmother was my superhero. And that's

535
00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:54,240
Speaker 1: I think that's why I kind of really got into

536
00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:57,960
Speaker 1: storytelling and being a superhero advocate because my grandmother was

537
00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:01,360
Speaker 1: my hero. Without a cape. You mention hot Music by Soho.

538
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:07,160
Speaker 1: Just found out that um Soho was basically are you

539
00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:11,400
Speaker 1: are you? You remember pal Joey, Pal Joey and the House?

540
00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:14,600
Speaker 1: I did not know so pal Joey, who was kind

541
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:17,280
Speaker 1: of an engineer for Kariss One. So I guess around

542
00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:19,800
Speaker 1: the time when they're making Sex and Violence. I think

543
00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:22,800
Speaker 1: D Nice told me the story that basically all those

544
00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:26,120
Speaker 1: patches belonged to d Nice and Kariss One, like that's

545
00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:29,360
Speaker 1: how he made hot music. But Pal Joey is making

546
00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:31,880
Speaker 1: like house records on the side, just you know, for

547
00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:35,400
Speaker 1: extra cash or whatnot. So wow, and I did not

548
00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:38,560
Speaker 1: know it. That's kind of like how we looked at

549
00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:42,280
Speaker 1: when we when we started getting that frequency of international

550
00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:45,840
Speaker 1: EDM electronic music around the world, whether it was Justice

551
00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:50,120
Speaker 1: or the the you know, uh David Getta who were

552
00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:53,600
Speaker 1: traveled the world, and we're like, yo, remember that era

553
00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:56,480
Speaker 1: of like go out house you and the technotronic plump

554
00:31:56,680 --> 00:32:01,040
Speaker 1: up the gym? Y remember remember so who hot Hot.

555
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:05,480
Speaker 1: We started talking about how we can connect and bring

556
00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:09,480
Speaker 1: whatever was happening around the world and bring that same

557
00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:11,960
Speaker 1: frequency that Jungle Brothers was doing when they did throw

558
00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:14,360
Speaker 1: a House you, but just doing a black eyed Peace

559
00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:18,160
Speaker 1: style and utilizing those inspirations and those sounds and those

560
00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:21,800
Speaker 1: frequencies that were electronic that were popping in around the world.

561
00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:25,440
Speaker 1: That in turn became the Boom Boom Pals and the

562
00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:27,840
Speaker 1: I Gotta Feelings and those big records that we did

563
00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:31,440
Speaker 1: in two thousand and eight to twenty eleven. And so

564
00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:35,880
Speaker 1: all we did was just regurgitate the inspiration that came

565
00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:39,840
Speaker 1: from Jungle Brothers and and and those folks that were

566
00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:44,200
Speaker 1: transitioning into that, Yeah, a lecture of music. Music. Yeah.

567
00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:46,560
Speaker 1: When I talk to anyone from LA that's a dancer,

568
00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:50,000
Speaker 1: the first thing they always tell me is that, you know,

569
00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:53,840
Speaker 1: it wasn't Vogan. It's called whacking. There's a whacking culture.

570
00:32:53,840 --> 00:33:00,600
Speaker 1: Whacking culture whacking like what was I guess him outside

571
00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:02,760
Speaker 1: of her standpoint. I mean, I'm a DJ, but I

572
00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:08,520
Speaker 1: don't really get many opportunities to do like house parties

573
00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:11,640
Speaker 1: like on frequently, maybe like four or five times a

574
00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:14,600
Speaker 1: year some club will hired me to do a house

575
00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:17,720
Speaker 1: set or whatever. But you know, were you at all

576
00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:21,040
Speaker 1: part of the whacking community like those? It was a

577
00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:23,200
Speaker 1: pretty tight niche We were part of the freestyle the

578
00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:27,680
Speaker 1: Adrian Youngs. You know Adrian Young before he became a producer. Wait, yeah,

579
00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:31,880
Speaker 1: before Adrian Young became a producer with Ali Shahid Muhammad Yo.

580
00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:34,800
Speaker 1: This dude was an incredible dancer. Bro Like, he had

581
00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:37,880
Speaker 1: the dreadlocks. My man, Adrian Young was one of the

582
00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:40,680
Speaker 1: illest dancers and we all came up together. You know.

583
00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:44,160
Speaker 1: So shout out to Adrian Young for his transition into

584
00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:48,480
Speaker 1: becoming an amazing cultureist of the culture. He just he's

585
00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:51,120
Speaker 1: just such a big inspiration because he did start as

586
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:53,680
Speaker 1: a dancer. He started as a freestyle dancer with us.

587
00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:57,320
Speaker 1: So were you part of the good life community at

588
00:33:57,320 --> 00:33:59,280
Speaker 1: all or was that like sort of before we had

589
00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:01,240
Speaker 1: our own thing. We had our own thing called Peace

590
00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:04,560
Speaker 1: and Justice Center, which Black Eyed Peas spawned out of it.

591
00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:06,560
Speaker 1: We also had pump gated heead we used to come

592
00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:09,920
Speaker 1: out of there. Um. Not a lot of main artists

593
00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:12,560
Speaker 1: came out of there, but we had love and appreciation

594
00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:16,040
Speaker 1: for the abstract roods and the fellowships and you know,

595
00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:21,799
Speaker 1: uh Medusa and all those folks. Yeah, Medusa. Um, But

596
00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:24,960
Speaker 1: we weren't that part of La. We weren't in Lamert Park.

597
00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:29,800
Speaker 1: We were in East La Glendale, Sangibo Valley, Los Felis,

598
00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:31,840
Speaker 1: Like that was our world. That was our stomping grounds,

599
00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:33,640
Speaker 1: and we were more in the Filipino community because of

600
00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:36,279
Speaker 1: apple apples. He was the guy that would bring us

601
00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:39,719
Speaker 1: to the hip to Filipino parties. So okay, that's kind

602
00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:42,440
Speaker 1: of where we We were sharp sharpen our swords and

603
00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:48,600
Speaker 1: battle other crews. My idea of battling really just stems

604
00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:52,319
Speaker 1: from watching Beach Street and that sort of thing. But

605
00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:56,399
Speaker 1: you know, when you go to a function, like take

606
00:34:56,480 --> 00:35:00,799
Speaker 1: us back to nineteen ninety or ninety one, If you're

607
00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:04,520
Speaker 1: going to a function, are you going there to flex that?

608
00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:06,440
Speaker 1: I will dance out dance to all of you, like

609
00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:10,120
Speaker 1: how does a battle start? It's more of a spiritual warfare, bro,

610
00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:14,600
Speaker 1: more than our battle out dance you. It's more like

611
00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:17,880
Speaker 1: when you know when you see the X men battling

612
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:20,799
Speaker 1: Scratch Pickles, or you see the beat junkies battling these

613
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:24,239
Speaker 1: other DJs and they're going there, they're killing. It's the

614
00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:29,760
Speaker 1: same mentality for for dancers or B boys or freestyle dancers,

615
00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:33,080
Speaker 1: like we are in there as apex predators to see

616
00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:35,920
Speaker 1: who's got the illest shit? How dope are you repid?

617
00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:38,880
Speaker 1: What's the what's the dopest moves that you're bringing to

618
00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:42,640
Speaker 1: be able to show that you're representing your crew. And we,

619
00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:46,680
Speaker 1: you know, we watch movies like Umu Rack Shot by

620
00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:51,080
Speaker 1: the mop Tops and and Wild Style, and you know,

621
00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:54,759
Speaker 1: we learn from the greats watching the battles between rock

622
00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:57,319
Speaker 1: Steady and the other crews and seeing how they would

623
00:35:57,360 --> 00:36:01,759
Speaker 1: go into it and be able to present this beautiful

624
00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:04,200
Speaker 1: art form that was ghetto gymnastics that we would do

625
00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:06,799
Speaker 1: in our backyards practicing, and then we would bring it

626
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:08,799
Speaker 1: to the stage and it was a performance. Basically, it

627
00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:11,879
Speaker 1: was like people were watching us battle. And then Will

628
00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:14,319
Speaker 1: would get on the mic and battle on the MC tip.

629
00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:17,360
Speaker 1: He was a killer. He was a killer on the

630
00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:20,680
Speaker 1: MCATs on the freestyle tip. And so there was this

631
00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:25,799
Speaker 1: club called Ballistics which Bud Bundy Ak David Faustino used

632
00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:27,560
Speaker 1: to put out and there was a hip hop club

633
00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:32,680
Speaker 1: and basically we would have, you know, crews from Pasadena,

634
00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:35,440
Speaker 1: from LA from South Central come to battle at the

635
00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:39,239
Speaker 1: spot in Hollywood, and that's where Buckwheat was at. That's

636
00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:43,280
Speaker 1: where the Far Side exhibit Robin Dick Haul of Patton,

637
00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:47,200
Speaker 1: Leonardo DiCaprio. We all came to Alyssa Milano. We all

638
00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:49,880
Speaker 1: came to this club when we were all teenagers and

639
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:52,839
Speaker 1: black eyed peas. That's where we met and that's where

640
00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:56,759
Speaker 1: we started kind of like conjugating at this club called Ballistics.

641
00:36:57,400 --> 00:37:00,640
Speaker 1: When these battles happened, Like is there at ticular crew

642
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:05,919
Speaker 1: or a person to whom you were like, nah, man,

643
00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:08,960
Speaker 1: I'm a destroyer when I see him next, or that

644
00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:14,200
Speaker 1: sort of thing, Like like what's the battle mentality to

645
00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:18,640
Speaker 1: to discredit another dancer? Not discredit another dancer, but like,

646
00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:22,960
Speaker 1: how does one determine who won a dance battle? Um?

647
00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:26,040
Speaker 1: I think it's more about the cruise, you know, and

648
00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:28,719
Speaker 1: and and just getting the name up and getting your

649
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:32,440
Speaker 1: name because the crew would give you married in every

650
00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:36,880
Speaker 1: city if you're if you're dominating these battles. Um it

651
00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:39,480
Speaker 1: wasn't about money. Back then. There was no money. It

652
00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:41,680
Speaker 1: was like you know when you watch eight Miles, like

653
00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:45,480
Speaker 1: Eminem just battling. There was no like it's like, Yo,

654
00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:49,200
Speaker 1: you're battling for reputation, right, and then you're battling At

655
00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:52,279
Speaker 1: that time in the eighty nine ninety it's like, Yo,

656
00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:55,280
Speaker 1: I might be seen by somebody that I can probably

657
00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:57,319
Speaker 1: make this a living, right because we don't know. We're

658
00:37:57,320 --> 00:37:59,560
Speaker 1: like we see people on television, we see people in

659
00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:01,400
Speaker 1: the movie. He's like, oh, yeah, I'm a dancer, I'm

660
00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:05,120
Speaker 1: a b boy. Maybe I can get a foot loose opportunity.

661
00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:08,279
Speaker 1: Maybe I can be on David Letterman, like the way

662
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:10,640
Speaker 1: that Crazy Lads was, you know what I'm saying. So

663
00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:13,319
Speaker 1: this just as a kid from the inner cities, you're

664
00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:16,080
Speaker 1: just like, Yo, this is my opportunity to express myself.

665
00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:19,640
Speaker 1: At that time, I wasn't rapping. I would just break

666
00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:24,160
Speaker 1: dancing or freestyle dancing. And then I started elevating my

667
00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:29,640
Speaker 1: mentality to be able to utilize performance dancing. And then

668
00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:35,799
Speaker 1: with the guidance and the strength and the leadership of Will,

669
00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:38,120
Speaker 1: I was like, Yo, maybe I can do this thing

670
00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:45,160
Speaker 1: too and represent and utilize this as another weapon, production, songwriting,

671
00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:48,440
Speaker 1: breaking and like the way Chris Brown was. You know,

672
00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:51,080
Speaker 1: Chris Brown had that same type of philosophy as like

673
00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:53,640
Speaker 1: I could be a triple threat, break it down because

674
00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:55,880
Speaker 1: he wasn't just a regular dancer or not just a

675
00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:59,399
Speaker 1: regular dancer. He's actually one of my favorites because he's

676
00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:02,440
Speaker 1: able to do street dancing and not you know, he

677
00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:04,839
Speaker 1: can do choreography, but he can also have his own

678
00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:08,080
Speaker 1: freestyle bounce to it. What was the point in which

679
00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:15,040
Speaker 1: you knew or seriously pursued like, Okay, this is what

680
00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:18,560
Speaker 1: I want to do for a living. What was your

681
00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:24,160
Speaker 1: life into your daily life into pre entertainment, like as

682
00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:26,399
Speaker 1: far as school or a job or that sort of thing.

683
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:29,240
Speaker 1: My first first job was at Disneyland picking up Horseman

684
00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:33,920
Speaker 1: after the electrical parade, which was I was dealing with

685
00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:37,719
Speaker 1: a lot of ship back then, ladies and gentlemen. I

686
00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:40,120
Speaker 1: was dealing with a lot of shit. But it taught

687
00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:44,040
Speaker 1: me being on point um as far as like um,

688
00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:49,600
Speaker 1: you know, being punctual, work ethic um, humility, because I

689
00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:52,080
Speaker 1: was dealing with a lot of shit but also being

690
00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:54,840
Speaker 1: part of a corporate structure. And during the day I

691
00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:57,960
Speaker 1: was working at disneland and at night I was performing

692
00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:01,720
Speaker 1: with Will and Apple, which was what was to become

693
00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:04,880
Speaker 1: Black Eyed Peas, And so I had a day job

694
00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:08,440
Speaker 1: to be able to facilitate my dream at night. Um,

695
00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:11,200
Speaker 1: just like what you guys used to do a mirror

696
00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:13,920
Speaker 1: at the what was it called Leila's was that? What

697
00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:19,200
Speaker 1: was that spot called? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, yeah, the early years. Yes,

698
00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:21,160
Speaker 1: So we used to do that same thing. We used

699
00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:23,239
Speaker 1: to go to this Peace and Justice Center and just

700
00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:25,839
Speaker 1: sharpen our swords, do like a jam, or we had

701
00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:27,520
Speaker 1: a live band and we would rock out and we

702
00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:30,279
Speaker 1: would do these performances. And so even though we were

703
00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:32,160
Speaker 1: getting paid a lot of money, maybe like one hundred

704
00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:34,359
Speaker 1: and two hundred bucks, we looked at it like, oh,

705
00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:36,759
Speaker 1: this is a start of something. Maybe we can you know,

706
00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:39,480
Speaker 1: continue to grow this art form and this this this

707
00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:43,800
Speaker 1: vehicle called Black Eyed Peas and this could become something. So,

708
00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:45,920
Speaker 1: you know, and we're straight out of high school. Man,

709
00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:49,040
Speaker 1: We're seventeen eighteen year old kids that that had a

710
00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:50,959
Speaker 1: dollar in a dream or two dollars in a dream

711
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:55,760
Speaker 1: for gas. And so Disneyland was my first initial job

712
00:40:56,200 --> 00:41:00,600
Speaker 1: fulfilling the dream because that was the way I was

713
00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:02,480
Speaker 1: able to pay for gas or meals to get to

714
00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:06,000
Speaker 1: the studio or to my performance. I was gonna ask

715
00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:10,200
Speaker 1: had y'all officially become at band clan at that point? No, So,

716
00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:13,799
Speaker 1: Will and Apple got signed at sixteen as an ad

717
00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:16,200
Speaker 1: band clan, and it was another brother named Mookie that

718
00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:19,880
Speaker 1: was part of that trio. Easy actually discovered Will and

719
00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:23,680
Speaker 1: Apple at Ballistics the Bud Bundy joint, and so he

720
00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:26,919
Speaker 1: signed him. He was like, Yo, I love I love

721
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:28,880
Speaker 1: what you guys representing. You guys are kind of like

722
00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:31,719
Speaker 1: the West Coast version of a trip Call Quest or

723
00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:34,439
Speaker 1: Diggible Planets. You guys are like, you know you got

724
00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:38,000
Speaker 1: that whatever whatever he said, Bohemian rap or whatever, because

725
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:40,759
Speaker 1: he didn't know how to explain it. And so he's like,

726
00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:43,080
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do the same thing Diggible and Tried did

727
00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:45,319
Speaker 1: in the East Coast. I'm gonna do that for you

728
00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:48,839
Speaker 1: guys here in the West Coast. And so unfortunately Easy

729
00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:52,719
Speaker 1: passed away ninety five, and so that's that was kind

730
00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:55,279
Speaker 1: of the moment where Will was like, Yo, we got

731
00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:57,279
Speaker 1: to start a new thing. It can't be ad Bank clan.

732
00:41:57,480 --> 00:42:01,040
Speaker 1: So let's just I don't know this called Blue Unit. Nah.

733
00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:04,920
Speaker 1: That's why let's call it uh, let's call it uh

734
00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:08,799
Speaker 1: beans of rice? Why nah, it's just kind of whack.

735
00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:14,000
Speaker 1: What about what about black eyed peas? Peas? What does

736
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:17,279
Speaker 1: that represent? Black eyed peas is so food? We could

737
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:20,359
Speaker 1: feed the soul with our music? Oh shit, Okay, black

738
00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:24,399
Speaker 1: eyed peas and black eyed peas brings good luck during

739
00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:27,080
Speaker 1: New Year's We bring good luck with our music. So

740
00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:29,879
Speaker 1: we started coming with it cool ideas about what black

741
00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:32,320
Speaker 1: eyed peas represented. And plus, there wasn't a lot of

742
00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:43,160
Speaker 1: food groups out there other than the chili pepper, right, Fante,

743
00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:45,319
Speaker 1: you're kind of a part of this, but you, you

744
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:50,480
Speaker 1: and poo don't necessarily do like run DMC tug of

745
00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:55,319
Speaker 1: war style. But you know in the Peas there are

746
00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:58,480
Speaker 1: various songs in which you guys trade lines and that

747
00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:02,359
Speaker 1: sort of thing. Can you describe to me, Like, what

748
00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:06,840
Speaker 1: is the creative process when you are one third of

749
00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:10,920
Speaker 1: a unit and you're creating a song, and you know,

750
00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:13,719
Speaker 1: of course there's the old all right, you get one verse,

751
00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:16,719
Speaker 1: you get one verse, you get one verse, but you

752
00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:19,520
Speaker 1: know who decides which verse goes for us? He's the

753
00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:22,880
Speaker 1: first verse to be heard. Who decides? Like when you

754
00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:25,440
Speaker 1: guys are writing songs and which you are are trading

755
00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:28,000
Speaker 1: like tug of war lines like walk me through just

756
00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:32,239
Speaker 1: the creative process of how you guys develop your lyrics. Yeah,

757
00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:36,280
Speaker 1: I would say the best way to describe the most

758
00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:43,200
Speaker 1: recent exchange of even shared contributions is this album called

759
00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:47,360
Speaker 1: Masters in the Sun, which we put out in two eighteen,

760
00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:50,439
Speaker 1: which is probably about that love that record Thank You Brother,

761
00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:53,680
Speaker 1: which is our best work. It's not a pop record.

762
00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:57,399
Speaker 1: It's a strictly Black Eyed Peas is showing you, which

763
00:43:57,800 --> 00:44:00,799
Speaker 1: we still are capable of doing as hip hop kids,

764
00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:05,600
Speaker 1: as mcs. We got to work with our freaking one

765
00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:09,879
Speaker 1: of our mentors, Lalo Shipperd doing all these transitions. So

766
00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:12,400
Speaker 1: that being said, you know, we're just in the studio

767
00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:15,560
Speaker 1: just vibing, like jumping around and just acting like we

768
00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:18,040
Speaker 1: were seventeen again. And that's what the Peas is is,

769
00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:21,040
Speaker 1: like we're it's a friendship. You know. We've had different

770
00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:24,440
Speaker 1: iterations of as you mentioned earlier about like is it

771
00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:27,240
Speaker 1: a third is it a fourth um? You know, shout

772
00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:28,759
Speaker 1: out to all the ladies that have been part of

773
00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:31,000
Speaker 1: our journey. But at the end of the day, like

774
00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:34,840
Speaker 1: black Eyed Peas is myself, I am an apple and

775
00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:37,319
Speaker 1: it's always been that, And so what you see on

776
00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:39,719
Speaker 1: stage is us jump jumping around having a good time,

777
00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:43,600
Speaker 1: just you know, not taking ourselves too seriously. Not to

778
00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:45,919
Speaker 1: Day Last, so not to day La because they said

779
00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:50,359
Speaker 1: the same thing that inspired us. So we just we

780
00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:53,320
Speaker 1: do that. We are in the studio and we're building

781
00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:55,319
Speaker 1: and we say a couple of words. I don't like

782
00:44:55,400 --> 00:44:57,359
Speaker 1: that line. Maybe we've changed that line. All right, app

783
00:44:57,600 --> 00:44:59,239
Speaker 1: what do you got? Apples say something, and then we

784
00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:01,840
Speaker 1: just started exchange and then you have your traditional like

785
00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:05,040
Speaker 1: you know, tab what you got yo? I got this first? Okay,

786
00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:07,359
Speaker 1: you go first? All right, well we got this. So

787
00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:12,520
Speaker 1: there's no recipe. It's just we're scientists in there. We

788
00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:15,880
Speaker 1: we tap into a frequency that we want to display

789
00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:20,319
Speaker 1: on every every song, and it comes out magical because

790
00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:22,960
Speaker 1: we know our formula. We know how to maneuver on

791
00:45:23,080 --> 00:45:25,959
Speaker 1: stage and in the studio as a trio. You spoke

792
00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:28,560
Speaker 1: about briefly about the ladies that y'all worked with over

793
00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:31,120
Speaker 1: the years. I want to ask you specifically about Kim Hill.

794
00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:34,120
Speaker 1: I really love her, Like, what memories do you have

795
00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:36,760
Speaker 1: of working with her during that time of First of all,

796
00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:39,400
Speaker 1: I just want to acknowledge all the ladies that have

797
00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:42,239
Speaker 1: worked with us, and Kim Hill set the tone. You know,

798
00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:47,320
Speaker 1: She's been such an amazing piece of our history. And

799
00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:49,960
Speaker 1: for those folks that don't know she's she's an amazing

800
00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:54,560
Speaker 1: designer as well. She has some pieces. Yeah, she's a DJ,

801
00:45:54,840 --> 00:45:58,560
Speaker 1: she's a great mom, and she she just she's all

802
00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:02,680
Speaker 1: around amazing person. So she just set the tone for

803
00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:04,640
Speaker 1: us because she was older than us at the time

804
00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:07,480
Speaker 1: over when we're when we started Black Eyed Peas, so

805
00:46:07,520 --> 00:46:09,719
Speaker 1: she was kind of like an older sister figure to us,

806
00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:12,040
Speaker 1: and she kept us a line when we're on tour.

807
00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:15,160
Speaker 1: You know, we're like teenagers. She was in her early

808
00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:18,040
Speaker 1: twenties and we were like, uh, you know, still kind

809
00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:20,320
Speaker 1: of goofy and messing around, and she'd be like, yo, guys,

810
00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:23,000
Speaker 1: we gotta we gotta show them all whatever. But it

811
00:46:23,080 --> 00:46:24,640
Speaker 1: was cool because we looked at her as like an

812
00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:30,080
Speaker 1: older sister and she always showed love. She was always inspirational,

813
00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:34,000
Speaker 1: and you know, to this day, I'll hit her up

814
00:46:34,040 --> 00:46:37,160
Speaker 1: on Instagram and we just we have a mutual respect

815
00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:39,640
Speaker 1: for each other. So so I'm glad you said that, man,

816
00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:42,280
Speaker 1: because she contributed a lot to the first two albums

817
00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:45,960
Speaker 1: behind the front and bridging the gap, and you know,

818
00:46:46,280 --> 00:46:50,719
Speaker 1: she's just she's amazing and I'm proud of everything that

819
00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:53,279
Speaker 1: she's doing now, So salute to Kim Hill. He walks

820
00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:57,479
Speaker 1: us through the process of what led to the deal

821
00:46:57,760 --> 00:47:01,200
Speaker 1: with Interscope, from the time that you got guys formed

822
00:47:01,239 --> 00:47:05,280
Speaker 1: the group to getting that deal, Like, what was the process?

823
00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:08,520
Speaker 1: A lot of a lot of shows, man, a lot

824
00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:11,319
Speaker 1: of shows, A lot of nose, black eyed peas. You're

825
00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:15,640
Speaker 1: not tangible enough. M there's already a slum village, there's

826
00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:18,799
Speaker 1: already a route, there's already a Fuji's what makes you

827
00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:22,719
Speaker 1: think you're gonna sell records? I feel the spirit of

828
00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:29,799
Speaker 1: run fairy Man. It was. We dealt with a lot

829
00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:32,440
Speaker 1: of nosse it's not tangible enough. I don't hear any

830
00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:36,280
Speaker 1: singles of you know, who are the black eyed peas?

831
00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:38,600
Speaker 1: What are you the black eyed peas? Like you know what?

832
00:47:38,680 --> 00:47:40,400
Speaker 1: You got a ninja and a black guy and a

833
00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:43,480
Speaker 1: Filipino Like what are you guys? You know? So it's

834
00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:48,200
Speaker 1: just not understanding what what we were going to contribute

835
00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:50,960
Speaker 1: to the world. And we always had an international mindset

836
00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:53,919
Speaker 1: because Apple came from Philippines, so we knew we wanted

837
00:47:53,960 --> 00:47:56,640
Speaker 1: to make music for the world, and even if domestic

838
00:47:57,280 --> 00:47:59,560
Speaker 1: didn't understand what we were trying to do with our music,

839
00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:03,319
Speaker 1: because we were inspired by you know, Georgie Banjour and

840
00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:06,000
Speaker 1: Sir Joe Mendez and Brazil sixty six and all these

841
00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:11,360
Speaker 1: amazing Brazilian artists, and we loved the samples. We loved

842
00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:14,040
Speaker 1: those ideas of being able to go to Brazil one

843
00:48:14,080 --> 00:48:17,799
Speaker 1: day and being able to tour Europe and making a

844
00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:20,279
Speaker 1: stamp in Europe, just like the way Jimmy Hendricks did,

845
00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:22,680
Speaker 1: the way that the Doors did, the way that you

846
00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:25,239
Speaker 1: guys did at Jazz Cafe. You know, it was just

847
00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:29,480
Speaker 1: that that idea of always wanted to go international, and so,

848
00:48:30,520 --> 00:48:32,319
Speaker 1: you know, it was it was a journey man. It

849
00:48:32,360 --> 00:48:36,920
Speaker 1: was a journey of belief, of doubling down on ourselves

850
00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:40,120
Speaker 1: when people were doubting us, and we just we just

851
00:48:40,160 --> 00:48:43,280
Speaker 1: continued trucking on. In fortunely, Jimmy Ivey saw the genius

852
00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:44,960
Speaker 1: and what was to become Black Eyed Peas, and the

853
00:48:44,960 --> 00:48:47,000
Speaker 1: thing that he said to us is we were going

854
00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:49,920
Speaker 1: through a bidding war. It was poly Anthony and Sony

855
00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:54,279
Speaker 1: Rest in Peace at fifty and it was also Tom

856
00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:59,680
Speaker 1: Wally at Warner brothers and then at Jimmy Ivy and

857
00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:03,479
Speaker 1: so Jimmy's like, you know, you can make records here.

858
00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:06,799
Speaker 1: No matter how many records you sell, you can have

859
00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:09,480
Speaker 1: a career here with me. You can get a million

860
00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:13,120
Speaker 1: dollars from Sony, But who knows what they're gonna do.

861
00:49:13,160 --> 00:49:16,160
Speaker 1: As far as you're touring. You guys are touring band. Um.

862
00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:19,120
Speaker 1: If you guys are about the money, you can go

863
00:49:19,120 --> 00:49:21,279
Speaker 1: to some but if you're about a career and have

864
00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:26,240
Speaker 1: longevity and belief, come here. So you know, fortunately we chose,

865
00:49:26,320 --> 00:49:28,880
Speaker 1: we chose right, and Jimmy was kind of like like he

866
00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:33,160
Speaker 1: was the godfather that led us on that path. Whenever

867
00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:37,400
Speaker 1: an artist puts the big hit at the very end

868
00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:41,719
Speaker 1: of the album, then I always feel like, Okay, maybe

869
00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:45,400
Speaker 1: they didn't believe in the product or whatever. And I

870
00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:50,839
Speaker 1: know that when behind the front bridge of the gap,

871
00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:54,080
Speaker 1: not behind it. Yeah, so you know, there was a

872
00:49:54,120 --> 00:49:57,240
Speaker 1: second where it's like, okay, you guys getting traction on

873
00:49:57,239 --> 00:49:59,839
Speaker 1: on TRL and this is about to happen. You guys

874
00:49:59,840 --> 00:50:03,839
Speaker 1: are how to do it? Could you describe what the

875
00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:08,160
Speaker 1: feeling is like when it's it's kind of a close

876
00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:10,719
Speaker 1: but no cigar moment, and then you have to make

877
00:50:10,760 --> 00:50:16,160
Speaker 1: a decision on what you're you're surviving is going to

878
00:50:16,239 --> 00:50:19,200
Speaker 1: be sink or swim? Like, did you walk through that period?

879
00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:25,799
Speaker 1: That's when we knew the Internet was real. Okay, this

880
00:50:25,880 --> 00:50:30,000
Speaker 1: is when we found out the Internet existed, and it,

881
00:50:31,040 --> 00:50:33,560
Speaker 1: I mean it swallowed our sales. It was this thing

882
00:50:33,600 --> 00:50:38,719
Speaker 1: called Napster. Okay, you had all the promo marketing, all

883
00:50:38,760 --> 00:50:41,760
Speaker 1: the looks you can have. We were on tour, on

884
00:50:41,520 --> 00:50:45,799
Speaker 1: a college Invasion tour with Dayline White Left and I

885
00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:49,239
Speaker 1: believe it was bisin Marquis and we would go to

886
00:50:49,280 --> 00:50:52,640
Speaker 1: these like little after parties and they were playing Bridging

887
00:50:52,719 --> 00:50:55,239
Speaker 1: the Gap. We're like, yo, Will gets all mad. It's like,

888
00:50:55,320 --> 00:50:58,600
Speaker 1: tab did you did you bring bring the record? Because

889
00:50:58,600 --> 00:51:00,560
Speaker 1: the record wasn't out yet? Did you bring the record here?

890
00:51:00,600 --> 00:51:02,960
Speaker 1: I was like no, what are you talking about? He's like,

891
00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:05,919
Speaker 1: who's playing the fucking record? So it was a girl

892
00:51:06,040 --> 00:51:08,799
Speaker 1: She's like, I love your new albums and we was like,

893
00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:10,680
Speaker 1: what do you mean our new album it's not even out.

894
00:51:11,040 --> 00:51:13,600
Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, it's out, it's out on Napster. He's like,

895
00:51:13,600 --> 00:51:18,359
Speaker 1: what the fuck is Napster. It's like, what's Napster. She's

896
00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:21,440
Speaker 1: like Napster's like the new pirrating ship, like you can

897
00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:27,360
Speaker 1: get all these like new albums. So we basically found

898
00:51:27,360 --> 00:51:31,520
Speaker 1: out that our album had been pirateed and been freaking

899
00:51:31,760 --> 00:51:35,919
Speaker 1: downloaded for free. And so the momentum was like, oh shit,

900
00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:38,560
Speaker 1: we did all this promo we did, We were on tour,

901
00:51:38,719 --> 00:51:42,719
Speaker 1: TRL picked up the song, but we only sold we

902
00:51:42,840 --> 00:51:46,160
Speaker 1: sold less than behind the front because people are now

903
00:51:46,200 --> 00:51:48,680
Speaker 1: going to Napster sot theyd get it for free instead

904
00:51:48,719 --> 00:51:51,759
Speaker 1: of buying the buying the CD. So then we said, yo,

905
00:51:52,120 --> 00:51:54,879
Speaker 1: we got to go into creating the next record. So

906
00:51:54,960 --> 00:51:58,680
Speaker 1: that's when we went into creating the ELEPHONK album. This

907
00:51:58,840 --> 00:52:02,080
Speaker 1: is two thousand and one, right, So how our decisions

908
00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:06,160
Speaker 1: made as far as who to work with, who to

909
00:52:06,200 --> 00:52:09,680
Speaker 1: bring like our producer to work with, what members to

910
00:52:09,760 --> 00:52:12,879
Speaker 1: let in the group, where all those things like how

911
00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:16,000
Speaker 1: are you guys just around this point in the early

912
00:52:16,080 --> 00:52:22,040
Speaker 1: aughts in terms of communication, It's like we're all going

913
00:52:22,080 --> 00:52:27,000
Speaker 1: through our own individual issues. And I remember at being

914
00:52:27,040 --> 00:52:30,279
Speaker 1: away from from studio a lot so to me and

915
00:52:30,320 --> 00:52:34,200
Speaker 1: Will Heavy in the studio on Elephant and at that

916
00:52:34,280 --> 00:52:39,600
Speaker 1: time ninety eleven happened. So we're recording Aboudego Bay nine

917
00:52:39,719 --> 00:52:42,960
Speaker 1: eleven happens, we're supposed to go on tour in September twelve.

918
00:52:43,600 --> 00:52:47,400
Speaker 1: We go on towards September twelve, and we travel around

919
00:52:47,520 --> 00:52:50,319
Speaker 1: the US and we see all this divide, all this,

920
00:52:51,640 --> 00:52:55,480
Speaker 1: you know, all this hatred towards Middle Eastern people, and

921
00:52:55,520 --> 00:53:00,080
Speaker 1: so we were like, yo, we kept asking the question, No,

922
00:53:00,239 --> 00:53:03,200
Speaker 1: where's the love within humanity? So we would go to

923
00:53:03,239 --> 00:53:06,000
Speaker 1: these different spots asking the same question, where's the love

924
00:53:06,040 --> 00:53:10,880
Speaker 1: within humanity? Where's the love? Okay, that's that's kind of dope.

925
00:53:11,120 --> 00:53:15,399
Speaker 1: There's something there with this topic, where's the love? So

926
00:53:15,440 --> 00:53:18,560
Speaker 1: we started creating where's the Love? The record the song,

927
00:53:20,360 --> 00:53:23,960
Speaker 1: and we recorded these records where's the loves Let's get

928
00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:27,680
Speaker 1: its started. We recorded Hey Mama, all these joints off

929
00:53:27,680 --> 00:53:31,000
Speaker 1: the elephone, and I remember we played it for Ron

930
00:53:31,040 --> 00:53:35,320
Speaker 1: Fair and he said, I don't hear a single. Wow,

931
00:53:35,800 --> 00:53:39,440
Speaker 1: I don't hear a single. So our exaction like, we

932
00:53:39,480 --> 00:53:42,440
Speaker 1: don't hear a single on elephone. So we're like, we

933
00:53:42,520 --> 00:53:45,400
Speaker 1: gotta double down. This is our last record. What are

934
00:53:45,400 --> 00:53:47,759
Speaker 1: we gonna do? So at that time, we had been

935
00:53:47,800 --> 00:53:50,799
Speaker 1: dealing with a girl that Will had been working with

936
00:53:51,080 --> 00:53:54,160
Speaker 1: named Stacy and she was working on a solo project

937
00:53:54,440 --> 00:53:56,520
Speaker 1: and she had been singing like you know when you

938
00:53:56,560 --> 00:53:58,399
Speaker 1: have a girl in the studio, She's singing the girl

939
00:53:58,480 --> 00:54:02,440
Speaker 1: parts that we yeah so so referencing stuff, but it

940
00:54:02,480 --> 00:54:06,840
Speaker 1: actually sounded good and we kept it on there and

941
00:54:07,200 --> 00:54:12,720
Speaker 1: her voice was something that we gravitated to. She was dope.

942
00:54:12,840 --> 00:54:16,080
Speaker 1: She had had her own group prior to us having

943
00:54:16,080 --> 00:54:18,640
Speaker 1: her in the studio. She was a teenage or like

944
00:54:18,680 --> 00:54:22,560
Speaker 1: a kids star, and so we're like, yo, this maybe

945
00:54:22,560 --> 00:54:25,360
Speaker 1: there's some magic here. So we kept on the records

946
00:54:25,840 --> 00:54:29,080
Speaker 1: and then we're like, yo, are we gonna put put

947
00:54:29,080 --> 00:54:32,279
Speaker 1: her in the group? Like yo, we we We've had

948
00:54:32,320 --> 00:54:35,959
Speaker 1: all these different females. It's not anything new, we've never

949
00:54:36,400 --> 00:54:39,720
Speaker 1: you know, it's it's not that we've not had a female,

950
00:54:39,719 --> 00:54:42,960
Speaker 1: because we have. We had Kim Hill, Macy Gray as Sterile,

951
00:54:44,320 --> 00:54:48,360
Speaker 1: Don Beckman, Noel Skags, all these females have worked with us,

952
00:54:48,719 --> 00:54:51,040
Speaker 1: Debbie Nova. But now there was going to be a

953
00:54:51,080 --> 00:54:55,280
Speaker 1: female that might not fit the mold because she's coming

954
00:54:55,320 --> 00:54:57,880
Speaker 1: from a group that was more of like a pop group.

955
00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:02,399
Speaker 1: So we just said, fuck it, let's go, let's let's

956
00:55:02,480 --> 00:55:04,880
Speaker 1: make this happen. Let's just bringing the crew. Let's take

957
00:55:04,880 --> 00:55:08,399
Speaker 1: her on tour. We took her on tour. People hated it.

958
00:55:08,760 --> 00:55:12,240
Speaker 1: People like, oh, man, what's this? This ain't black eyed Peas.

959
00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:15,120
Speaker 1: I'm not feeling this. So they were hated, Like yo,

960
00:55:15,200 --> 00:55:18,640
Speaker 1: it just turned like it turned negative because we have

961
00:55:18,760 --> 00:55:22,600
Speaker 1: this new girl in the group, Furgi, and so we

962
00:55:22,719 --> 00:55:28,080
Speaker 1: put out Where's the Love? And it smashes oh. Before that,

963
00:55:28,239 --> 00:55:32,080
Speaker 1: we actually I went to a club in La called

964
00:55:32,160 --> 00:55:34,960
Speaker 1: Josephs and I met this kid who was a part

965
00:55:35,000 --> 00:55:37,680
Speaker 1: of this boy band and he's a dancer, and so

966
00:55:37,760 --> 00:55:41,120
Speaker 1: he's transitioning from like this boy band to becoming a

967
00:55:41,160 --> 00:55:44,800
Speaker 1: solo artist. I'm like, yo, man, if you have talent,

968
00:55:45,480 --> 00:55:47,799
Speaker 1: I don't care where you're coming from. Bro, Like, if

969
00:55:47,800 --> 00:55:50,440
Speaker 1: you got talent, let's go, let's work. He's like, Yeah,

970
00:55:50,480 --> 00:55:53,239
Speaker 1: I'm working with Pharrell. I got this new project that

971
00:55:53,280 --> 00:55:56,439
Speaker 1: I'm doing. I'm transitioning from this group to now doing

972
00:55:56,480 --> 00:55:58,400
Speaker 1: my solo thing. I was like, Yo, you think you

973
00:55:58,400 --> 00:56:00,719
Speaker 1: can sing a hook on this record we have right now?

974
00:56:00,880 --> 00:56:03,680
Speaker 1: Is where's the love? The love? The love? That was it?

975
00:56:04,600 --> 00:56:07,080
Speaker 1: I said, can give me something like mercy? Mercy me

976
00:56:07,320 --> 00:56:10,279
Speaker 1: or like what's going on? By Marvin Gaye. He says,

977
00:56:10,280 --> 00:56:15,480
Speaker 1: all right, cool, give me a minute. He goes creates

978
00:56:15,520 --> 00:56:17,759
Speaker 1: whatever he's gonna create. He calls me, like, tab I

979
00:56:17,840 --> 00:56:20,800
Speaker 1: got it. He sings it over the phone. People killing,

980
00:56:20,960 --> 00:56:24,239
Speaker 1: people dying, children hurt, and you hear them crying. I'm like, Yo,

981
00:56:24,360 --> 00:56:28,160
Speaker 1: what the what? Yo? I gotta call Will I call Will?

982
00:56:28,520 --> 00:56:31,440
Speaker 1: I tell him, Yo, will I got the hook? You're like,

983
00:56:31,480 --> 00:56:34,000
Speaker 1: you got the hook? No, I got the person to

984
00:56:34,080 --> 00:56:36,800
Speaker 1: sing the hook. But where's the love? He's like, who

985
00:56:37,239 --> 00:56:41,680
Speaker 1: I said, justin Timberlake. He's like justin Timberlake the Backstreet boy.

986
00:56:42,719 --> 00:56:48,040
Speaker 1: He's he's not a Backstreet boy, he's part of in Sync.

987
00:56:49,000 --> 00:56:51,880
Speaker 1: He's in Sync. He's like, that's even fucking worse. Tab,

988
00:56:52,200 --> 00:56:54,359
Speaker 1: Why are we gonna have that guy thing on our hook?

989
00:56:56,280 --> 00:56:59,640
Speaker 1: But I saw what he brought. I didn't care what

990
00:57:00,680 --> 00:57:02,560
Speaker 1: his past or where he was coming from. It's like,

991
00:57:02,600 --> 00:57:04,960
Speaker 1: if the song is great, I don't care who's singing it.

992
00:57:05,040 --> 00:57:07,680
Speaker 1: Let's go. So he comes in, he records it, and

993
00:57:07,760 --> 00:57:10,919
Speaker 1: the left the rest is magic. We we put it out.

994
00:57:11,400 --> 00:57:16,240
Speaker 1: It creates this huge, huge, amazing frequency around the world.

995
00:57:16,600 --> 00:57:20,160
Speaker 1: It becomes our first number one record, and Ron Ferris

996
00:57:20,240 --> 00:57:23,560
Speaker 1: put strings on it and that was his connection to it.

997
00:57:23,640 --> 00:57:25,120
Speaker 1: I always knew it was going to be a hit.

998
00:57:25,200 --> 00:57:29,640
Speaker 1: Little buddy, when this song finally takes off, what was

999
00:57:29,680 --> 00:57:33,400
Speaker 1: the first paradigm shift that occurred in your life? I

1000
00:57:33,440 --> 00:57:35,520
Speaker 1: guess you can only have one time to have that

1001
00:57:35,600 --> 00:57:41,840
Speaker 1: experience in which you instantly see the shift of first

1002
00:57:41,880 --> 00:57:47,240
Speaker 1: we were a niche, underground group and suddenly we might

1003
00:57:47,280 --> 00:57:50,800
Speaker 1: be the establishment. So what what is happening like? What's

1004
00:57:50,960 --> 00:57:53,920
Speaker 1: what's the feeling like? What happens? I love that you

1005
00:57:53,960 --> 00:57:57,600
Speaker 1: said that because I was so proud of you transitioning

1006
00:57:57,640 --> 00:58:01,760
Speaker 1: into late night me felon because it was dope to

1007
00:58:01,800 --> 00:58:06,400
Speaker 1: see you guys like you know, and that umbrella sparked

1008
00:58:06,440 --> 00:58:08,800
Speaker 1: you to be able to be in the space of

1009
00:58:08,800 --> 00:58:11,600
Speaker 1: the oscars and have to re people, to be acting

1010
00:58:11,640 --> 00:58:13,400
Speaker 1: and all the great things that you guys have been doing.

1011
00:58:14,000 --> 00:58:18,080
Speaker 1: So that being said, I think for us because I'm

1012
00:58:18,120 --> 00:58:21,000
Speaker 1: I love comedy, man, I'm a big big I love

1013
00:58:21,200 --> 00:58:24,600
Speaker 1: comedy and humor. When we were on parody on Saturday

1014
00:58:24,640 --> 00:58:26,680
Speaker 1: Night Live, Yeah, I was gonna say, how did that

1015
00:58:26,720 --> 00:58:33,560
Speaker 1: feel to be? Yo? We made it? Boy that just

1016
00:58:34,000 --> 00:58:37,640
Speaker 1: loves hip hop culture and yes it was tongue in cheek.

1017
00:58:37,720 --> 00:58:39,360
Speaker 1: It was funny. It's like they're making fun of the

1018
00:58:39,400 --> 00:58:44,520
Speaker 1: black eyed peas, but they're mentioning the black eyed peas. Yeah,

1019
00:58:44,640 --> 00:58:46,840
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. My brother Appletypp came from

1020
00:58:46,880 --> 00:58:50,600
Speaker 1: Philippines not knowing the word of English because hip hop

1021
00:58:50,640 --> 00:58:54,640
Speaker 1: taught him how to speak English. He reading dictionary, learned

1022
00:58:54,640 --> 00:58:59,280
Speaker 1: how to wrap, and became a freaking huge international superstar

1023
00:58:59,360 --> 00:59:01,880
Speaker 1: from the fact pop y'alla pop culture references like that.

1024
00:59:01,960 --> 00:59:06,400
Speaker 1: So so I'm like, yo, you gotta own it. Who

1025
00:59:06,440 --> 00:59:09,280
Speaker 1: else but us? I mean, we get shit if it's there,

1026
00:59:09,520 --> 00:59:12,560
Speaker 1: own it. And if people hate all good, Oh, you

1027
00:59:12,560 --> 00:59:16,800
Speaker 1: gotta sellouts. Yeah, we're selling out stadiums around the world. Yeah.

1028
00:59:17,600 --> 00:59:22,360
Speaker 1: You know. My manager used to tease to reconni about

1029
00:59:22,440 --> 00:59:25,280
Speaker 1: like he would always say, well, you guys are salty

1030
00:59:25,280 --> 00:59:28,160
Speaker 1: because you never got your what he calls your Bentley

1031
00:59:28,240 --> 00:59:32,840
Speaker 1: moment and his short his short Bentley moment was sort

1032
00:59:32,840 --> 00:59:36,960
Speaker 1: of a shorthand for like, whatever it is the life

1033
00:59:37,000 --> 00:59:40,520
Speaker 1: that rappers think that rappers should be going through. We

1034
00:59:40,560 --> 00:59:44,280
Speaker 1: should be walking in slow motion, We should be you know,

1035
00:59:44,520 --> 00:59:48,800
Speaker 1: pouring champagne all over women and whatever whatever. Hype Williams

1036
00:59:48,800 --> 00:59:52,960
Speaker 1: slow motion kind of life that shiny Yeah, like that

1037
00:59:53,040 --> 00:59:56,840
Speaker 1: experience you like this bill. For me, it was getting

1038
00:59:56,880 --> 01:00:01,480
Speaker 1: custody my son, being able to pa twenty thousand dollars

1039
01:00:01,640 --> 01:00:06,280
Speaker 1: to get custom full custody of my son, Josh. I

1040
01:00:06,400 --> 01:00:11,240
Speaker 1: was like, Yo, that's with more than any gold Chain,

1041
01:00:11,440 --> 01:00:14,080
Speaker 1: than any Bentley because now I'm able to raise my

1042
01:00:14,120 --> 01:00:18,880
Speaker 1: son on my playing ground the way that I want

1043
01:00:18,920 --> 01:00:21,080
Speaker 1: to raise it. And so that was something that always

1044
01:00:21,080 --> 01:00:24,840
Speaker 1: bothered me because I was a teenage parent and honestly,

1045
01:00:25,320 --> 01:00:27,360
Speaker 1: I didn't know what parenting was bro Like, I was

1046
01:00:27,400 --> 01:00:30,920
Speaker 1: a little kid having a kid. So when the whereas

1047
01:00:30,960 --> 01:00:33,960
Speaker 1: a love moment happened, that was when financially I was

1048
01:00:34,040 --> 01:00:38,600
Speaker 1: able to actually provide a stable home for my son.

1049
01:00:38,920 --> 01:00:41,720
Speaker 1: Right although I had health with my mom because I

1050
01:00:41,720 --> 01:00:44,440
Speaker 1: was still young, I was twenty one, twenty two, at

1051
01:00:44,520 --> 01:00:47,240
Speaker 1: least I have some form of stability financially to be

1052
01:00:47,320 --> 01:00:50,560
Speaker 1: able to take my son away from the way he

1053
01:00:50,600 --> 01:00:52,600
Speaker 1: was being brought up, to be able to get him

1054
01:00:52,640 --> 01:00:55,480
Speaker 1: now a home the way I was brought up. And

1055
01:00:55,560 --> 01:00:57,880
Speaker 1: so that was like for me, that was a moment

1056
01:00:58,160 --> 01:01:01,800
Speaker 1: beyond any Bentley moment or any gold chain or you know.

1057
01:01:01,840 --> 01:01:03,880
Speaker 1: And I bought a house, yeah, but it was like

1058
01:01:04,040 --> 01:01:06,959
Speaker 1: taking care of Josh was like, you know, I made

1059
01:01:06,960 --> 01:01:08,720
Speaker 1: it and it was because of that wears love money

1060
01:01:09,040 --> 01:01:11,560
Speaker 1: that brought me this, this opportunity to be a dad.

1061
01:01:12,280 --> 01:01:15,720
Speaker 1: How old were you when you had Josh? Seventeen? I

1062
01:01:15,800 --> 01:01:18,600
Speaker 1: actually walked I walked my graduation with a sign bro

1063
01:01:18,760 --> 01:01:22,240
Speaker 1: Like I was like, only it was crazy, dude. It

1064
01:01:22,360 --> 01:01:25,160
Speaker 1: was like, Okay, this guy's not gonna make it. He's

1065
01:01:25,200 --> 01:01:27,400
Speaker 1: got a kid at seventeen. But it also it gave

1066
01:01:27,440 --> 01:01:29,360
Speaker 1: me the fire to be able to not give up

1067
01:01:29,360 --> 01:01:31,360
Speaker 1: on my dreams and my aspirations even though I was

1068
01:01:31,400 --> 01:01:34,720
Speaker 1: a teen parent and I'm not in any way form

1069
01:01:34,720 --> 01:01:38,160
Speaker 1: of fashion. I don't eat teen parents parent team. But

1070
01:01:38,240 --> 01:01:40,200
Speaker 1: I am saying like it put a fire in my

1071
01:01:40,280 --> 01:01:44,840
Speaker 1: ass and it just like that was like a Okay,

1072
01:01:44,880 --> 01:01:47,000
Speaker 1: now I got to come to Grips to be able

1073
01:01:47,080 --> 01:01:50,280
Speaker 1: to give my son a better opportunity of life because

1074
01:01:50,360 --> 01:01:58,000
Speaker 1: I know that that's my motivation. Of all those records,

1075
01:01:58,440 --> 01:02:01,600
Speaker 1: I would probably say that maybe Monkey Business was probably

1076
01:02:03,040 --> 01:02:05,840
Speaker 1: the hardest to create because it's like, how do you

1077
01:02:05,920 --> 01:02:10,200
Speaker 1: keep the momentum up? Then that becomes bigger. So I

1078
01:02:10,440 --> 01:02:12,440
Speaker 1: don't even want to go to the to the E

1079
01:02:12,600 --> 01:02:16,440
Speaker 1: and D. But going into Monkey business. What was the pressure? Like,

1080
01:02:17,480 --> 01:02:20,720
Speaker 1: I mean, bro, like we uh we went in there

1081
01:02:20,720 --> 01:02:24,880
Speaker 1: and actually tried to make hits. Elephant wasn't trying to

1082
01:02:24,880 --> 01:02:29,520
Speaker 1: make hits. We're just making records like, Yo, what's popping

1083
01:02:29,560 --> 01:02:33,200
Speaker 1: over there? Shiit? What's what's what's uh Timberland doing, What's

1084
01:02:33,360 --> 01:02:35,920
Speaker 1: what's Forrell doing? What's this person doing? Like it was

1085
01:02:36,000 --> 01:02:39,600
Speaker 1: all over the place being students and like how can

1086
01:02:39,640 --> 01:02:43,440
Speaker 1: we compete? And so records like Don't Lie, which is

1087
01:02:43,600 --> 01:02:46,720
Speaker 1: my least favorite record, even though it was a smash,

1088
01:02:47,160 --> 01:02:51,360
Speaker 1: I don't like performing it. It's just um. Then we

1089
01:02:51,400 --> 01:02:53,960
Speaker 1: had Don't Funk with My Heart, which is cool because

1090
01:02:53,960 --> 01:02:56,600
Speaker 1: we studied Bollywood and we like that frequency and we

1091
01:02:56,680 --> 01:03:00,240
Speaker 1: loved Lisa. Lisa and Nicole jam love that record. I

1092
01:03:00,280 --> 01:03:03,800
Speaker 1: wonder if I take yeah so that record, and it

1093
01:03:03,880 --> 01:03:06,480
Speaker 1: was like, oh, okay, this kind of sounds like weekends

1094
01:03:06,520 --> 01:03:11,280
Speaker 1: from u um uh from from Bridging the Gap um,

1095
01:03:11,360 --> 01:03:15,040
Speaker 1: which we sampled um Um Debbie Dap look at weekends

1096
01:03:15,040 --> 01:03:17,320
Speaker 1: because here we come, and so there was like a

1097
01:03:17,360 --> 01:03:22,959
Speaker 1: formula happening. And then we sampled Dick Dale Misery Loot

1098
01:03:23,080 --> 01:03:28,320
Speaker 1: for Pump It and then Well did My Humps, and

1099
01:03:28,360 --> 01:03:32,200
Speaker 1: then we finished it off with with the James Brown joint,

1100
01:03:32,240 --> 01:03:37,800
Speaker 1: which is my favorite. Yeah, talk about that session record

1101
01:03:37,880 --> 01:03:42,880
Speaker 1: when I was jealous, man, how did that happen? We

1102
01:03:42,880 --> 01:03:45,960
Speaker 1: were at the mojole. They don't want music, they don't

1103
01:03:45,960 --> 01:03:48,880
Speaker 1: want music. Yes, that was the first Boom Boom song.

1104
01:03:49,440 --> 01:03:52,120
Speaker 1: And mister Brown, as he liked to be referred to,

1105
01:03:52,880 --> 01:03:57,120
Speaker 1: mister Brown Brown, we met him at the Mobile Awards

1106
01:03:57,120 --> 01:04:00,680
Speaker 1: in London and we're like, mister Brown, we're working on

1107
01:04:00,680 --> 01:04:04,200
Speaker 1: a new record with huge fans. You know, b boys,

1108
01:04:04,480 --> 01:04:06,280
Speaker 1: We love what you've done with you know, you work

1109
01:04:06,320 --> 01:04:10,920
Speaker 1: blah blah blah, giving them flowers. What I don't have

1110
01:04:10,960 --> 01:04:14,560
Speaker 1: to work with anybody, but something says that I need

1111
01:04:14,600 --> 01:04:22,280
Speaker 1: to work with the Black Eyed peas. Yo. Yo. Also impression,

1112
01:04:24,600 --> 01:04:29,120
Speaker 1: it's it's, it's, it's it's trying. But but he says, Okay,

1113
01:04:29,360 --> 01:04:32,760
Speaker 1: I'm show up to the studio. We're recording at um

1114
01:04:33,600 --> 01:04:39,040
Speaker 1: Metropolis in London Paramounts No Metropolis Studios. He comes, he

1115
01:04:39,120 --> 01:04:42,120
Speaker 1: has his whole entourage. Bro. When I tell you this

1116
01:04:42,200 --> 01:04:45,560
Speaker 1: dude's a mega superstar. He walk in with a lady

1117
01:04:45,640 --> 01:04:50,200
Speaker 1: that cos his hair. So he's sitting down. They bring

1118
01:04:50,200 --> 01:04:54,040
Speaker 1: out a mirror. The lady sits down, combs his hair,

1119
01:04:54,720 --> 01:05:00,720
Speaker 1: and then he's like, okay, I'm ready. I don't ready.

1120
01:05:01,040 --> 01:05:04,360
Speaker 1: So we're like okay, cool. So so s our band

1121
01:05:05,040 --> 01:05:07,880
Speaker 1: they going there, they start doing the thing. He's like no, no, no,

1122
01:05:08,160 --> 01:05:11,040
Speaker 1: everybody out. He brings his horn players, so his horn

1123
01:05:11,080 --> 01:05:16,360
Speaker 1: players are leading the dance. That his horn players are

1124
01:05:16,400 --> 01:05:18,760
Speaker 1: leading the dance, We're like, oh yo, just let him

1125
01:05:18,760 --> 01:05:22,439
Speaker 1: do his thing. What kind of style can we bring

1126
01:05:22,560 --> 01:05:26,720
Speaker 1: to what James Brown's bringing mister Brown's bringing. What about

1127
01:05:26,840 --> 01:05:29,080
Speaker 1: like that Greg nice and that that nice smooth joh

1128
01:05:29,360 --> 01:05:32,760
Speaker 1: Yo Disney go less. He plays a sad and I

1129
01:05:32,920 --> 01:05:35,360
Speaker 1: like Matt. So that's the that's the frequency that we

1130
01:05:35,440 --> 01:05:37,960
Speaker 1: tapped into for the rap party that Will is doing

1131
01:05:38,000 --> 01:05:42,840
Speaker 1: with with James Brown. And I just remember like after

1132
01:05:42,880 --> 01:05:46,400
Speaker 1: the session we were breaking bread. He's sitting at the

1133
01:05:46,440 --> 01:05:48,440
Speaker 1: table and he's talking to us and somebody comes over

1134
01:05:48,480 --> 01:05:52,760
Speaker 1: and starts cutting his his food, like his meat, his steak.

1135
01:05:53,240 --> 01:05:55,080
Speaker 1: He has someone to cut his steak. He has someone

1136
01:05:55,120 --> 01:05:57,480
Speaker 1: who brush his hair, and then he goes like this

1137
01:05:57,800 --> 01:06:07,120
Speaker 1: like some he comes and wipes his mouth. I was like,

1138
01:06:07,160 --> 01:06:15,000
Speaker 1: wait a minute, hey, Steve, Yeah, that's like one of

1139
01:06:15,000 --> 01:06:17,680
Speaker 1: my favorite tracks of y'alls man me too, d thank you.

1140
01:06:18,000 --> 01:06:20,520
Speaker 1: I mean that record just came so natural, and the

1141
01:06:20,560 --> 01:06:24,120
Speaker 1: fact that we got tipped to start the song, you know,

1142
01:06:24,400 --> 01:06:26,320
Speaker 1: it's he said something really special when we were on

1143
01:06:26,320 --> 01:06:28,920
Speaker 1: the road. It was with him, Dave Chappelle. He said, well,

1144
01:06:29,160 --> 01:06:31,040
Speaker 1: black Eyed Peas, we want you guys to carry the

1145
01:06:31,040 --> 01:06:34,320
Speaker 1: baton of what we started and take it international and

1146
01:06:34,520 --> 01:06:36,800
Speaker 1: all the stuff that you guys are doing international, you

1147
01:06:36,800 --> 01:06:39,800
Speaker 1: guys are representing the essence of the native tongue. So

1148
01:06:39,840 --> 01:06:42,120
Speaker 1: that was very important, and that was around that time

1149
01:06:42,160 --> 01:06:46,880
Speaker 1: the Monkey business Eric. But during that time we also

1150
01:06:46,920 --> 01:06:50,280
Speaker 1: got to tour with amazing rock groups. Can I just

1151
01:06:50,320 --> 01:06:53,040
Speaker 1: tell you about the Rockets? Yeah? Yeah, I want to

1152
01:06:53,040 --> 01:06:54,920
Speaker 1: know what tour life was like at this point in

1153
01:06:54,920 --> 01:06:58,200
Speaker 1: your life. I mean, we're we're touring with with uh,

1154
01:06:58,800 --> 01:07:05,760
Speaker 1: with um, I mean, seven Dust, No Doubt, Whence to

1155
01:07:05,840 --> 01:07:09,800
Speaker 1: Find Me, Lit Blink one eighty two, it was just

1156
01:07:09,920 --> 01:07:13,080
Speaker 1: Dope Metallica. We were just touring with all these amazing

1157
01:07:13,200 --> 01:07:17,280
Speaker 1: rock groups because those are the type of festivals we

1158
01:07:17,280 --> 01:07:19,960
Speaker 1: were doing, and we're the only hip hop group part

1159
01:07:20,000 --> 01:07:23,000
Speaker 1: of that that journey, So we learned how to perform

1160
01:07:23,080 --> 01:07:26,439
Speaker 1: in front of audiences that weren't necessarily hip hop audiences,

1161
01:07:26,680 --> 01:07:30,000
Speaker 1: and so our pellet kind of expanded, and that's why

1162
01:07:30,040 --> 01:07:32,400
Speaker 1: we had UM. You know, we worked with Travis Barker,

1163
01:07:32,440 --> 01:07:35,320
Speaker 1: and we worked with Papa Roach and all these these

1164
01:07:36,080 --> 01:07:38,240
Speaker 1: rock groups so that we could learn how to bring

1165
01:07:38,280 --> 01:07:40,360
Speaker 1: that frequency as well and just be students of the

1166
01:07:40,400 --> 01:07:43,120
Speaker 1: game UM and and learn how to perform in front

1167
01:07:43,160 --> 01:07:46,360
Speaker 1: of these audiences that you know, you better be doing

1168
01:07:46,480 --> 01:07:49,959
Speaker 1: something other than just playing instruments or just rapping, because

1169
01:07:50,000 --> 01:07:52,520
Speaker 1: they're gonna they're gonna tell you, we're gonna throw stuff

1170
01:07:52,520 --> 01:07:54,720
Speaker 1: at you, they're gonna flip you off. So we're learning

1171
01:07:54,720 --> 01:07:57,240
Speaker 1: how stage died, we're learning how to do mosh pits

1172
01:07:57,280 --> 01:08:00,960
Speaker 1: all that stuff around Europe, and as that we can

1173
01:08:01,040 --> 01:08:04,120
Speaker 1: bring that same rock energy with with the Black Eyed

1174
01:08:04,160 --> 01:08:07,919
Speaker 1: Peas essence. Well, this is a question I always wanted

1175
01:08:07,960 --> 01:08:12,400
Speaker 1: to know. Okay, So for the longest I'll say, like basically,

1176
01:08:12,480 --> 01:08:16,280
Speaker 1: before the Internet kind of colonized the world and had

1177
01:08:16,360 --> 01:08:19,679
Speaker 1: us all thinking like at the same time, whereas before

1178
01:08:19,720 --> 01:08:23,599
Speaker 1: you go to different territories and the section of town

1179
01:08:23,680 --> 01:08:26,880
Speaker 1: didn't get what New York has or that sort of thing.

1180
01:08:27,240 --> 01:08:32,080
Speaker 1: But there was a moment where I remember when you

1181
01:08:32,120 --> 01:08:37,240
Speaker 1: guys first came out. Uh you guys went to Australia

1182
01:08:37,360 --> 01:08:41,080
Speaker 1: and you did Big Day out right. Yes, loved it.

1183
01:08:41,479 --> 01:08:46,280
Speaker 1: And I remember, uh Jurassic Five telling me you know

1184
01:08:46,640 --> 01:08:49,360
Speaker 1: we we we you have to go to Australia. They're like, yo, dog,

1185
01:08:49,400 --> 01:08:51,519
Speaker 1: you got to come to Australia, man, Like we play

1186
01:08:51,640 --> 01:08:55,240
Speaker 1: stadiums over there. And I was like, Jurassic Five playing

1187
01:08:55,240 --> 01:09:00,040
Speaker 1: the stadium there's like no dog, Like you don't get it.

1188
01:09:00,640 --> 01:09:04,160
Speaker 1: Like the artists that are club artists in the United

1189
01:09:04,200 --> 01:09:08,360
Speaker 1: States when they go to Australia, they're like, yeah, mega

1190
01:09:08,560 --> 01:09:11,760
Speaker 1: And he was like yeah man, Ben Harper play stadiums

1191
01:09:11,840 --> 01:09:14,120
Speaker 1: and he was like yo, yo yo, black Eyed Peas

1192
01:09:14,160 --> 01:09:16,320
Speaker 1: can set out of the stadium. I was like, black

1193
01:09:16,360 --> 01:09:18,200
Speaker 1: Eye peat the Black Eye Peas are just opened for

1194
01:09:18,280 --> 01:09:22,320
Speaker 1: me last week the Solid Stadium. I literally I was

1195
01:09:22,360 --> 01:09:26,240
Speaker 1: like my mind was blown. But for you, what was

1196
01:09:26,280 --> 01:09:30,879
Speaker 1: the feeling to get and and yes, to put in context,

1197
01:09:31,040 --> 01:09:35,800
Speaker 1: like Australia is just different. You know, they're not really

1198
01:09:35,840 --> 01:09:39,160
Speaker 1: controlled by like corporate radio the way that it is

1199
01:09:39,200 --> 01:09:41,880
Speaker 1: over here with clear channel and you know that sort

1200
01:09:41,880 --> 01:09:45,559
Speaker 1: of thing where playlists are determined like still DJ's play

1201
01:09:45,680 --> 01:09:49,040
Speaker 1: whole music over there, like a person like Ericabadu can

1202
01:09:49,080 --> 01:09:54,519
Speaker 1: still find space on pop radio along with whoever is

1203
01:09:54,600 --> 01:09:56,639
Speaker 1: like hidden pop and that sort of thing, Like they've

1204
01:09:56,640 --> 01:09:59,519
Speaker 1: always been balanced that way. So as a result a

1205
01:09:59,520 --> 01:10:01,960
Speaker 1: lot of them, music that we like that's deemed underground

1206
01:10:02,040 --> 01:10:05,720
Speaker 1: music gets the same platform that something mainstream is. But

1207
01:10:05,840 --> 01:10:11,719
Speaker 1: for you, like, what was the feeling in breaking breaking

1208
01:10:11,760 --> 01:10:16,679
Speaker 1: that ceiling and finally, you know, getting to a point

1209
01:10:16,680 --> 01:10:20,720
Speaker 1: where I'm certainly met you know, where Michael Jackson's like, hey,

1210
01:10:20,800 --> 01:10:22,640
Speaker 1: I'm a big fan of you guys, and like what

1211
01:10:22,760 --> 01:10:24,360
Speaker 1: was that feeling? Like like who are the people that

1212
01:10:24,400 --> 01:10:27,360
Speaker 1: you're meeting and those sort of things. Uh So, so

1213
01:10:27,880 --> 01:10:30,519
Speaker 1: being able to travel to Australia, you're seeing all these

1214
01:10:31,520 --> 01:10:35,280
Speaker 1: actors and actresses and kind of like the the experience

1215
01:10:35,320 --> 01:10:39,320
Speaker 1: of the Oscars world. That's the transition of going from

1216
01:10:39,360 --> 01:10:43,240
Speaker 1: like the music world to now meeting actors, actresses, directors.

1217
01:10:43,920 --> 01:10:48,240
Speaker 1: That's actually where we met James Cameron um and so

1218
01:10:48,360 --> 01:10:52,400
Speaker 1: you're meeting all these people and you're getting this after

1219
01:10:52,520 --> 01:10:55,639
Speaker 1: effect of like yo, I didn't know they liked the music, right,

1220
01:10:55,680 --> 01:10:59,960
Speaker 1: We're just we're just kind of like Nomad's just traveling

1221
01:11:00,000 --> 01:11:03,120
Speaker 1: and you don't feel the effects of the impact that

1222
01:11:03,120 --> 01:11:05,160
Speaker 1: you're having because you're just doing you're just being you,

1223
01:11:05,280 --> 01:11:08,320
Speaker 1: or you're just creating music. So we were we were

1224
01:11:08,360 --> 01:11:11,400
Speaker 1: just embracing the beauty that was Australia and it is

1225
01:11:11,439 --> 01:11:15,960
Speaker 1: Australia because they supported us before any before anyone actually

1226
01:11:16,200 --> 01:11:19,240
Speaker 1: gave us that then Flowers, it was Australia, New Zealand.

1227
01:11:19,280 --> 01:11:23,240
Speaker 1: Let me show you something. Yes, this is my first

1228
01:11:23,280 --> 01:11:28,200
Speaker 1: plaque bust New Zealand. This is the first plaque that

1229
01:11:28,240 --> 01:11:33,280
Speaker 1: I actually got gold. Wow. So that being said, in

1230
01:11:33,280 --> 01:11:35,639
Speaker 1: New Zealand and Australia, they had loved for us before

1231
01:11:35,680 --> 01:11:40,120
Speaker 1: any any domestics, so especially on our first earlier work

1232
01:11:40,160 --> 01:11:43,080
Speaker 1: with behind the front of Bridge of the Gaff. So

1233
01:11:43,920 --> 01:11:46,599
Speaker 1: you know, it just it just affirmed everything that we

1234
01:11:46,640 --> 01:11:48,920
Speaker 1: had been doing. We have been working towards being able

1235
01:11:49,080 --> 01:11:52,160
Speaker 1: to toward the world and be international and just bring

1236
01:11:52,160 --> 01:11:57,680
Speaker 1: that energy. And I would say Australia was probably the

1237
01:11:57,680 --> 01:12:00,360
Speaker 1: place where we spent most time because we did the

1238
01:12:00,400 --> 01:12:03,720
Speaker 1: Big Doubt for months and every year we did it

1239
01:12:03,760 --> 01:12:06,439
Speaker 1: up until that point when they stopped doing it. Okay,

1240
01:12:06,479 --> 01:12:12,599
Speaker 1: So I have a theory about mega songs. Every mega

1241
01:12:12,640 --> 01:12:15,879
Speaker 1: song that I've ever known from Louie Louie to shout

1242
01:12:16,000 --> 01:12:21,559
Speaker 1: to tequila. Like mega songs, songs that will never die.

1243
01:12:22,680 --> 01:12:25,160
Speaker 1: The story always starts the same where it's like we

1244
01:12:25,240 --> 01:12:27,479
Speaker 1: created that in like twenty minutes, Like we didn't really

1245
01:12:27,520 --> 01:12:33,519
Speaker 1: put calculated thought in it. You're co creator of a

1246
01:12:33,600 --> 01:12:39,000
Speaker 1: mega song like long After Life Ends or whatever. Like

1247
01:12:39,240 --> 01:12:42,400
Speaker 1: I seriously doubt that. I gotta feel and will ever

1248
01:12:43,439 --> 01:12:47,760
Speaker 1: go away or not be played at any function, be

1249
01:12:47,880 --> 01:12:53,880
Speaker 1: it wedding, celebration. Yeah, the amount of times I've had

1250
01:12:53,880 --> 01:12:56,760
Speaker 1: to spend it as a dj M. What was the

1251
01:12:56,800 --> 01:13:00,840
Speaker 1: process in making that song? I just remember we're talking

1252
01:13:00,880 --> 01:13:04,519
Speaker 1: about what's that song we're building, what's that song that

1253
01:13:04,600 --> 01:13:09,320
Speaker 1: plays at every freaking sporting events, wedding the Earth Winning

1254
01:13:09,360 --> 01:13:12,280
Speaker 1: Fire song, And I'm like, September, Yeah, we need something

1255
01:13:12,439 --> 01:13:15,960
Speaker 1: like that in that space where it's like everywhere, it's

1256
01:13:16,000 --> 01:13:19,439
Speaker 1: playing everywhere. Yo. We need something like say little Great

1257
01:13:19,520 --> 01:13:24,400
Speaker 1: good Time, come on, yeah we do. We need we

1258
01:13:24,439 --> 01:13:30,120
Speaker 1: need something that's like gonna live sporting events, colleges. Yo,

1259
01:13:30,200 --> 01:13:33,920
Speaker 1: We're gonna make a college anthem, yo. College. Oh shit,

1260
01:13:34,040 --> 01:13:36,800
Speaker 1: let's make a college anthem. And it's the first time

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Speaker 1: that we had ever created a song where all of

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01:13:39,960 --> 01:13:43,040
Speaker 1: us are singing at the same time. We had never

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01:13:43,040 --> 01:13:46,080
Speaker 1: done before because every single song, like you said earlier

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01:13:46,080 --> 01:13:48,840
Speaker 1: in Mire we have each one has a verse or

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01:13:49,040 --> 01:13:51,360
Speaker 1: you know, you have like a bridge or something. But

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01:13:51,439 --> 01:13:55,040
Speaker 1: in this song, we strategically said, we want the energy

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01:13:55,080 --> 01:14:00,599
Speaker 1: of this song to feel like one. Yeah. Right, So

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01:14:00,920 --> 01:14:05,439
Speaker 1: I remember David Ghetta sent the track to Will. He's like, oh,

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01:14:05,479 --> 01:14:08,800
Speaker 1: I have this remix for the Love is Gone right

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01:14:09,560 --> 01:14:12,559
Speaker 1: now that the Love is gone? Remember that song? So

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01:14:12,600 --> 01:14:17,280
Speaker 1: this is the remix track too, that song. Okay, he

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01:14:17,320 --> 01:14:20,320
Speaker 1: didn't use it. Oh really, yeah, he didn't use it.

1273
01:14:20,360 --> 01:14:22,160
Speaker 1: He's like, oh, you guys can use it. So we

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01:14:22,680 --> 01:14:27,719
Speaker 1: used that track and Will came up with that chorus

1275
01:14:28,520 --> 01:14:30,640
Speaker 1: and then we all came to the studio and we

1276
01:14:30,680 --> 01:14:33,639
Speaker 1: started jumping around. Like I said, when we started jumping around,

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01:14:33,760 --> 01:14:36,720
Speaker 1: that's when you know it's something. Um. The first time

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01:14:36,760 --> 01:14:40,120
Speaker 1: we performed it, it was a disaster. We performed at

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01:14:40,400 --> 01:14:44,880
Speaker 1: the Tangle it was horrible. Where was it Wangle Tangle Kiss?

1280
01:14:44,880 --> 01:14:49,839
Speaker 1: At Bam Ryan Seacrest, it was like I wanted to

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01:14:49,880 --> 01:14:53,559
Speaker 1: say it was. It was in in in Anaheim. We

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01:14:53,680 --> 01:14:57,600
Speaker 1: performed it and people are alive. Nope, We're like this

1283
01:14:58,200 --> 01:15:01,439
Speaker 1: scourged no words like, oh, oh, this might not be

1284
01:15:01,479 --> 01:15:05,000
Speaker 1: the one. Maybe it's this other Boom Boom Power song. Again,

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01:15:05,479 --> 01:15:08,360
Speaker 1: there was a knockout punch. Boom Boom Power came first,

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01:15:08,800 --> 01:15:14,040
Speaker 1: right right, that was that number one for like twelve weeks. Yeah,

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01:15:14,080 --> 01:15:16,639
Speaker 1: so we're like, yo, how do we outdo Boom Boom

1288
01:15:16,640 --> 01:15:19,840
Speaker 1: Power because that was like, bro, we already We're already

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01:15:19,880 --> 01:15:22,720
Speaker 1: at number one twelve weeks. And then we came with

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01:15:22,760 --> 01:15:24,920
Speaker 1: I got a fill in and then it just knocked

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01:15:24,960 --> 01:15:27,280
Speaker 1: it out and it just stayed on the charts. And

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01:15:27,320 --> 01:15:30,080
Speaker 1: then we're doing all the awards shows, all the the

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01:15:30,960 --> 01:15:35,479
Speaker 1: you know, all the sporting events. We did the Super Bowl,

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01:15:35,520 --> 01:15:38,719
Speaker 1: we did the World Cup. That song is blowing up everywhere,

1295
01:15:39,400 --> 01:15:43,360
Speaker 1: and then, um, it just let us know that something

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01:15:43,400 --> 01:15:45,799
Speaker 1: that we thought was gonna be a college anthem became

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01:15:45,840 --> 01:15:51,439
Speaker 1: an anthem that yeah, it's an anthem forever. So you know, No,

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01:15:51,560 --> 01:15:53,719
Speaker 1: we didn't do it in twenty seconds or twenty minutes

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01:15:53,800 --> 01:15:56,720
Speaker 1: or five minutes. It was done. It was It was

1300
01:15:56,720 --> 01:15:59,839
Speaker 1: a nice process. Yes, it was quick, but the idea

1301
01:16:00,360 --> 01:16:02,519
Speaker 1: that we wanted to present to the world was something

1302
01:16:02,560 --> 01:16:06,640
Speaker 1: that was very unison and very connected as one and

1303
01:16:06,760 --> 01:16:10,120
Speaker 1: That's why that representation of us doing the lyrics together

1304
01:16:10,400 --> 01:16:13,679
Speaker 1: is a synonymous for that song, how it brings everyone

1305
01:16:13,720 --> 01:16:22,400
Speaker 1: together when you're having um this level of success. And again,

1306
01:16:22,479 --> 01:16:27,000
Speaker 1: like the question was like, can you guys out do elephunt? Okay?

1307
01:16:27,120 --> 01:16:30,200
Speaker 1: Can you guys, I'll do monkey business? Okay? Can you

1308
01:16:30,240 --> 01:16:35,880
Speaker 1: I'll do the end at any point? And you know,

1309
01:16:35,920 --> 01:16:38,040
Speaker 1: I know that you went through this in your memoir,

1310
01:16:38,560 --> 01:16:44,400
Speaker 1: but what was the point where like this wasn't fun anymore?

1311
01:16:45,400 --> 01:16:48,719
Speaker 1: Or has it? Has it ever been a time where

1312
01:16:48,720 --> 01:16:51,920
Speaker 1: it's just like, was there ever a be careful for

1313
01:16:51,960 --> 01:16:54,559
Speaker 1: what you ask or wish for a moment for you? Right?

1314
01:16:56,120 --> 01:16:59,280
Speaker 1: I don't for me will an app. I'm only speaking

1315
01:16:59,280 --> 01:17:02,000
Speaker 1: for us because you know, I can't say anything of

1316
01:17:02,040 --> 01:17:04,760
Speaker 1: the ladies that journeyed with us because maybe they have

1317
01:17:04,840 --> 01:17:09,120
Speaker 1: the same experience. But man, I love being on that

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01:17:09,160 --> 01:17:12,920
Speaker 1: stage with my brothers. Bro, Like that's like our livelihood.

1319
01:17:13,360 --> 01:17:15,960
Speaker 1: When we're on stage. We're seventeen year old kids that

1320
01:17:16,160 --> 01:17:20,280
Speaker 1: just loved performing and loved you know, creating music and

1321
01:17:20,720 --> 01:17:24,840
Speaker 1: performing for the world. So there's never a moment, there's

1322
01:17:24,880 --> 01:17:26,800
Speaker 1: never a moment other than that moment when we took

1323
01:17:26,800 --> 01:17:30,960
Speaker 1: a break that ship was bullshit, bro, that's like suicide.

1324
01:17:31,560 --> 01:17:35,040
Speaker 1: That eight year break. That a year break from twenty

1325
01:17:35,240 --> 01:17:38,920
Speaker 1: eleven to twenty nineteen, when we put out Leetmore with

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01:17:39,000 --> 01:17:43,120
Speaker 1: Jay Balvin, when Sylvia Rohan signed us, learned from Interscope

1327
01:17:43,120 --> 01:17:45,439
Speaker 1: to Sony, and then we had success with Sylvia ron

1328
01:17:45,960 --> 01:17:49,599
Speaker 1: and reinvented ourselves as a trio, which that's how we started.

1329
01:17:50,560 --> 01:17:54,160
Speaker 1: But that time period of being away for eight years. Yes,

1330
01:17:54,240 --> 01:17:57,559
Speaker 1: I got cancer in twenty fourteen, but man, we were

1331
01:17:57,760 --> 01:18:02,919
Speaker 1: very lucky to come out of that your hiatus because

1332
01:18:03,320 --> 01:18:06,280
Speaker 1: usually groups are gone for eight years. They're gone. There's

1333
01:18:06,320 --> 01:18:08,720
Speaker 1: no way you could come back. Do we come back

1334
01:18:08,800 --> 01:18:12,280
Speaker 1: at a filling level? No? How is that conversation happened?

1335
01:18:12,400 --> 01:18:16,280
Speaker 1: Are you guys actively communicating with each other and saying like, hey,

1336
01:18:16,439 --> 01:18:19,360
Speaker 1: I need a break, need to have some me time.

1337
01:18:20,120 --> 01:18:24,840
Speaker 1: We'll reconvene in any year right now? It was it was.

1338
01:18:24,960 --> 01:18:27,320
Speaker 1: It wasn't a choice that mean Will and Apple had

1339
01:18:28,360 --> 01:18:31,720
Speaker 1: just being honest with you guys, that's the reality. We

1340
01:18:31,720 --> 01:18:34,280
Speaker 1: would have kept going We're at the height of our period.

1341
01:18:34,320 --> 01:18:37,920
Speaker 1: Why stop? But I get it, you know, um not

1342
01:18:38,080 --> 01:18:41,759
Speaker 1: all of us wanted to continue. And so that being said,

1343
01:18:42,280 --> 01:18:44,519
Speaker 1: when it came back to coming back to wanting to

1344
01:18:44,560 --> 01:18:48,320
Speaker 1: do music again. This is after I battle cancer. I

1345
01:18:48,400 --> 01:18:50,880
Speaker 1: reached out to Will, I reached out to Apple, I

1346
01:18:50,960 --> 01:18:53,040
Speaker 1: reached out to fird I said, Yo, I'm ready. I

1347
01:18:53,280 --> 01:18:56,720
Speaker 1: need I need this to reduce life. I need I

1348
01:18:56,760 --> 01:18:59,519
Speaker 1: need my healing performing Black Eyed Peas. We need to

1349
01:18:59,560 --> 01:19:02,280
Speaker 1: do it again. Will and Apple were like, let's go,

1350
01:19:04,040 --> 01:19:07,639
Speaker 1: and that's what it is me. Will and Apple are going,

1351
01:19:07,880 --> 01:19:10,080
Speaker 1: and that's how it's going to be. And fortunately at

1352
01:19:10,080 --> 01:19:13,360
Speaker 1: that time, Apple the app met a singer from the

1353
01:19:13,400 --> 01:19:16,920
Speaker 1: Philippines named Jay Ray Soul and she she was a

1354
01:19:17,000 --> 01:19:21,040
Speaker 1: young artist that inspired him to be able to bring

1355
01:19:21,040 --> 01:19:23,640
Speaker 1: her to the US and give her an opportunity to

1356
01:19:23,680 --> 01:19:26,400
Speaker 1: be able to to you know, to journey with the

1357
01:19:26,439 --> 01:19:29,439
Speaker 1: Black Eyed Peas and just be part of this amazing

1358
01:19:29,520 --> 01:19:32,080
Speaker 1: new I guess you can save this new lease on

1359
01:19:32,160 --> 01:19:35,760
Speaker 1: life because, like I said, we were our Interscope and

1360
01:19:35,800 --> 01:19:38,559
Speaker 1: then we got dropped and then we got picked up

1361
01:19:38,600 --> 01:19:41,120
Speaker 1: by Silvia. Rohne explained to me the process of getting

1362
01:19:41,160 --> 01:19:44,080
Speaker 1: dropped by Interscope when you're literally one of their biggest

1363
01:19:44,080 --> 01:19:47,640
Speaker 1: money makers. Well, Jimmy was gone, bro, Like Jimmy was

1364
01:19:47,680 --> 01:19:50,200
Speaker 1: now beats World He's like, I don't have anything to

1365
01:19:50,200 --> 01:19:53,240
Speaker 1: do it. So who took over Interope? John Janet and

1366
01:19:53,320 --> 01:20:00,400
Speaker 1: Steve Burman? Burman? Oh damn okay. I believe Burman is

1367
01:20:00,560 --> 01:20:04,760
Speaker 1: the cat if you remember the Dre Day video, Yeah,

1368
01:20:04,880 --> 01:20:09,240
Speaker 1: where he's playing the role with Jerry Heller. I didn't realize, like, wow,

1369
01:20:09,280 --> 01:20:12,439
Speaker 1: Burman took over Enescope. Okay. Yeah. So we put out

1370
01:20:12,520 --> 01:20:16,240
Speaker 1: Master the Sun and they're like the saying it, this

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01:20:16,360 --> 01:20:19,160
Speaker 1: is not what we want from Black Eyed Peas and

1372
01:20:19,200 --> 01:20:24,439
Speaker 1: so the album was great, but not to that. So

1373
01:20:24,640 --> 01:20:27,240
Speaker 1: in their eyes there was a failure. It wasn't what

1374
01:20:27,280 --> 01:20:29,920
Speaker 1: they expected. And so they're like, you know what, we're

1375
01:20:29,920 --> 01:20:33,400
Speaker 1: gonna part ways. I think we've exhausted all the energy

1376
01:20:33,479 --> 01:20:37,240
Speaker 1: the years. Thank you for all your contribution, but we're

1377
01:20:37,280 --> 01:20:40,080
Speaker 1: not going to renew the contract. So me, Will and Apple,

1378
01:20:40,360 --> 01:20:42,439
Speaker 1: we're like, yo, what what are we gonna do? And

1379
01:20:42,520 --> 01:20:47,240
Speaker 1: like Will always does, Will is like, don't worry about it, guys,

1380
01:20:47,560 --> 01:20:50,400
Speaker 1: we're gonna figure it out. So I trust him. Since

1381
01:20:50,439 --> 01:20:54,360
Speaker 1: I was seventeen, he's always been the don't worry about it, guys,

1382
01:20:54,760 --> 01:20:59,120
Speaker 1: We're gonna figure it out. And that energy was like, yeah,

1383
01:20:59,240 --> 01:21:01,040
Speaker 1: we are going to figure it out. It's all good.

1384
01:21:01,160 --> 01:21:05,160
Speaker 1: We got songs, we got you know, relationships. So we

1385
01:21:05,200 --> 01:21:07,519
Speaker 1: had this song called Reepmo that we recorded with Jay

1386
01:21:07,560 --> 01:21:11,639
Speaker 1: Bowin right. So I remember Zeke from from Sony comes

1387
01:21:11,720 --> 01:21:14,960
Speaker 1: to the studio and he hears it and he's like, Yo,

1388
01:21:15,000 --> 01:21:18,639
Speaker 1: I'm working on this this soundtrack. Would love this song

1389
01:21:18,720 --> 01:21:22,840
Speaker 1: to be part of the soundtrack, and so Will was like, yeah,

1390
01:21:22,920 --> 01:21:24,760
Speaker 1: but we want this for us, like we want this

1391
01:21:24,800 --> 01:21:27,000
Speaker 1: to be a Black Eyed Pea joint off of our

1392
01:21:27,080 --> 01:21:30,040
Speaker 1: new project. He's like, well, what label are you are.

1393
01:21:30,080 --> 01:21:32,280
Speaker 1: He's like, we're not on the label. So he leaves

1394
01:21:32,280 --> 01:21:35,920
Speaker 1: the studio called Sylvia Roone. Sylvie Rone shows up to

1395
01:21:35,920 --> 01:21:40,040
Speaker 1: the studio. Will plays the record for her and she's like, great,

1396
01:21:40,120 --> 01:21:42,639
Speaker 1: I love this record. Let's put it on the Bad

1397
01:21:42,680 --> 01:21:47,000
Speaker 1: Boys three soundtrack with Martin Lawrence and Will Smith before

1398
01:21:47,040 --> 01:21:52,120
Speaker 1: the slap and so he does that. Zeke is like, Yo,

1399
01:21:52,200 --> 01:21:54,120
Speaker 1: this is this is the future of Black Eyed Peas.

1400
01:21:54,160 --> 01:21:57,559
Speaker 1: This whole Latin afrobeat fusion, whatever you guys are doing

1401
01:21:57,880 --> 01:22:00,800
Speaker 1: with this frequency, it's international and it's popping right now.

1402
01:22:01,680 --> 01:22:05,280
Speaker 1: We're gonna sign black Eyed son to Epic. So we

1403
01:22:05,360 --> 01:22:10,120
Speaker 1: get signed. We create this album which was translation, which

1404
01:22:10,120 --> 01:22:12,240
Speaker 1: we put out during the pandemic, we still put out

1405
01:22:12,240 --> 01:22:14,680
Speaker 1: a record. We had songs like We're Like Me with Shakida,

1406
01:22:14,960 --> 01:22:20,320
Speaker 1: We had Mamasita with Thosuna, Viva Loco with Nikki Jam

1407
01:22:20,320 --> 01:22:23,640
Speaker 1: and Tiger. So all these records just represented where we

1408
01:22:23,640 --> 01:22:26,840
Speaker 1: were at in that state of our career and how

1409
01:22:26,920 --> 01:22:29,840
Speaker 1: we were inspired by these Latin applebeat rhythms that were

1410
01:22:29,840 --> 01:22:32,920
Speaker 1: happening around the world, and so that was kind of

1411
01:22:32,920 --> 01:22:35,960
Speaker 1: our nod to that. And then we created another record

1412
01:22:36,040 --> 01:22:39,719
Speaker 1: which we put out called Elevation, and that one featured

1413
01:22:39,880 --> 01:22:42,880
Speaker 1: Don't You Worry with Shakida and David Ghetta, and then

1414
01:22:42,880 --> 01:22:45,520
Speaker 1: we did a record with Anita from Brazil and Alalfa

1415
01:22:45,600 --> 01:22:48,400
Speaker 1: and the max record would drop in is with Daddy Yankee.

1416
01:22:48,920 --> 01:22:52,000
Speaker 1: After having done it at all, like what is what

1417
01:22:52,120 --> 01:22:55,599
Speaker 1: is left for you as far as like in terms

1418
01:22:55,640 --> 01:22:57,559
Speaker 1: of what you would like to achieve with the group.

1419
01:22:58,760 --> 01:23:03,600
Speaker 1: With the group, docuse series, be able to make the

1420
01:23:03,800 --> 01:23:07,240
Speaker 1: Black Eyed Peas movie, whatever that means, do it in

1421
01:23:07,280 --> 01:23:09,920
Speaker 1: a way where it's like Stranger Things fantasy kind of

1422
01:23:09,920 --> 01:23:12,719
Speaker 1: like a scripted series, Like I don't think it's a movie,

1423
01:23:12,720 --> 01:23:15,600
Speaker 1: it's a it's a series like the Beatles did a

1424
01:23:15,720 --> 01:23:18,960
Speaker 1: docu series like the Beatles did a Yellow Submarine, where

1425
01:23:18,960 --> 01:23:24,240
Speaker 1: it's kind of like mystic magical, uh, you know, something

1426
01:23:24,280 --> 01:23:28,240
Speaker 1: like that, whereas you can add fantasy because we're big

1427
01:23:28,280 --> 01:23:30,439
Speaker 1: sci fi guys. We love stranger things and just that

1428
01:23:30,479 --> 01:23:34,639
Speaker 1: whole creativity of creating stuff that's not just a typical

1429
01:23:34,720 --> 01:23:36,720
Speaker 1: like oh, these are hip hop kids. And then they

1430
01:23:36,800 --> 01:23:39,000
Speaker 1: became popular around the world. It's like, no, we want

1431
01:23:39,000 --> 01:23:42,880
Speaker 1: to tell all these amazing stories like cancer survivor and

1432
01:23:43,200 --> 01:23:46,240
Speaker 1: and tech guy he's he's the he calls himself the

1433
01:23:46,280 --> 01:23:48,200
Speaker 1: Black Iron Man because he's all about tech. And then

1434
01:23:48,240 --> 01:23:50,400
Speaker 1: you got this kid from the Philippines who was a

1435
01:23:50,400 --> 01:23:53,679
Speaker 1: farmer that didn't speak English and came to America. First

1436
01:23:53,680 --> 01:23:55,880
Speaker 1: person he met was well, I am so all these

1437
01:23:55,880 --> 01:23:59,040
Speaker 1: crazy stories. It's a little bit sensation wise, and it's

1438
01:23:59,080 --> 01:24:02,240
Speaker 1: it's entertaining and and and still appealing into the eye.

1439
01:24:03,720 --> 01:24:10,120
Speaker 1: I see, I see well, man, dude, this is definitely

1440
01:24:10,800 --> 01:24:12,479
Speaker 1: worth the weight. And for you know, this is like

1441
01:24:12,479 --> 01:24:14,880
Speaker 1: our first in depth conversation with each other. Man. So

1442
01:24:15,000 --> 01:24:17,040
Speaker 1: I'm really glad that we got this. Wait, Steve, you're

1443
01:24:17,040 --> 01:24:19,320
Speaker 1: about to say something. No, I was about to come

1444
01:24:19,560 --> 01:24:29,639
Speaker 1: wipe wipe something off your mouth. For that's theirs. I

1445
01:24:29,680 --> 01:24:32,479
Speaker 1: just want to do a little, a little promo real

1446
01:24:32,560 --> 01:24:36,200
Speaker 1: quick on something. So I invested in this company called

1447
01:24:36,280 --> 01:24:39,720
Speaker 1: a Kid's Book, about which you already I sent it

1448
01:24:39,760 --> 01:24:42,080
Speaker 1: to you. Yes, the first book that I wrote is

1449
01:24:42,120 --> 01:24:44,519
Speaker 1: called the Kid's Book about Identity, and then we have

1450
01:24:44,560 --> 01:24:47,320
Speaker 1: a whole series of other books like, you know, a

1451
01:24:47,439 --> 01:24:54,720
Speaker 1: kid's book about mindfulness, this book about addiction, um, this

1452
01:24:54,880 --> 01:24:58,960
Speaker 1: book about anxiety. And it's all about having uncomfortable conversations

1453
01:24:59,000 --> 01:25:03,639
Speaker 1: with kids because a lot of times parents tiptoe around

1454
01:25:03,640 --> 01:25:06,800
Speaker 1: these conversations. And so we said, no, why don't we

1455
01:25:06,840 --> 01:25:10,200
Speaker 1: have these these books where we actually unlock those and

1456
01:25:10,280 --> 01:25:13,599
Speaker 1: make it a comfortable conversation out of something that's very

1457
01:25:13,680 --> 01:25:17,519
Speaker 1: uncomfortable to some families. And so, you know, it's just

1458
01:25:17,600 --> 01:25:20,720
Speaker 1: it's something that I invested in because I want to

1459
01:25:20,760 --> 01:25:23,000
Speaker 1: be able to give back. Just like I'm telling you, dude,

1460
01:25:23,080 --> 01:25:26,920
Speaker 1: Kobe really inspired me being with Kobe, being around him

1461
01:25:26,920 --> 01:25:30,040
Speaker 1: and seeing how he went from being a basketball player

1462
01:25:30,080 --> 01:25:33,880
Speaker 1: to actually being you know, winning an oscar, just like you,

1463
01:25:34,600 --> 01:25:39,760
Speaker 1: writing books, almost creating an animation studio for inspired by

1464
01:25:39,760 --> 01:25:44,599
Speaker 1: his daughter. So this is just so what's the name

1465
01:25:44,600 --> 01:25:47,759
Speaker 1: of the of the book series, A kid's book about

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Speaker 1: and where do we find that online? We get that

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Speaker 1: on Amazon Kid's Book About dot Com. And basically it's

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Speaker 1: all these different writers, authors, kids that are doing the

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Speaker 1: forward so that that they that you empower the kids

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Speaker 1: to really be part of this journey along with the

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Speaker 1: books that I'm writing for Marvel. Um, being an author

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Speaker 1: is very important to me because then I'm able to inspire,

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Speaker 1: just like we did with lyrics, Like now I'm putting

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Speaker 1: that same energy and that same approach to writing. Eventually,

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Speaker 1: wanted to do my own script and create the first

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Speaker 1: Native American feature film that will live in that same

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Speaker 1: Marvel space that Black Panther lives. So that's my goal, um,

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Speaker 1: and I'm doing my due diligence. I'm putting in the

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Speaker 1: groundwork and putting in my ten thousand hours to be

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Speaker 1: able to transition from music into into being a creator

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Speaker 1: and a screenwriter and eventually one day on wood a

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Speaker 1: director films make it happen. I mean, you lived a

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Speaker 1: life in which you know you you made moves with

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Speaker 1: no trepardation and you know you put your foot forward,

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Speaker 1: So that's definitely going to happen. Yeah, brother, I appreciate that.

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Speaker 1: And again uh fante, thank you man, thank you for

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Speaker 1: the inspiration. I hope you feel better. Oh yeah, thank you.

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Speaker 1: I want to say Tar and Pharaoh Munch I'm my

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Speaker 1: two favorite mcs of all time of all I shall

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Speaker 1: relay that to him. And honestly, we didn't we didn't

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Speaker 1: touch on Daylight Bro, and that was something very important

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Speaker 1: because when he text me about about Dave and that

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Speaker 1: that piece you guys put together, everybody put together, that

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Speaker 1: was beautiful man, So well, thank you for being a

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Speaker 1: part of that. Man. Yeah, I want to dedicate this

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Speaker 1: one to Dave Bro and his impact, um that he

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Speaker 1: had on all of us and what Daylight means to us.

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Speaker 1: And now with their music being on all streaming platforms,

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Speaker 1: I'm proud of Pasta, Nous and Mace and Dave. I'm

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Speaker 1: still listening to music like like it just came out yesterday.

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Speaker 1: We're well on behalf of the QLs crew, on behalf

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Speaker 1: of yea cousin, Jake, Steve and I'm paid. Bill came

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Speaker 1: home from a cigarette. Thank you Taboo for joining us

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01:27:59,439 --> 01:28:02,080
Speaker 1: and this is what's love. We will see you on

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Speaker 1: the next go round of course. Love Supreme, all right,

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Speaker 1: see you M. What's Love? Supreme is the production of

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