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Speaker 1: What's Love Supreme is a production of iHeart Brady.

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Speaker 2: Yo. Look at Fante Fanti My man, what up on?

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Speaker 3: Brother?

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Speaker 4: Good to meet you, man, you could to meet you.

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Speaker 2: It's an honor to meet you. Brother. No no, I

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Speaker 2: mean what you've done. I mean from from slum conversations

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Speaker 2: with T three to the Daylight conversations. Bro, your name

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Speaker 2: is synonymous, your clue is synonymous, and I always have

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Speaker 2: to show my salute from my ultimate respect to the

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Speaker 2: pioneers like yourself.

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Speaker 4: Oh man, that's love, brother, Thank you so much. I

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Speaker 4: received that.

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 4: Likewise, thank you for sure.

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Speaker 2: Bro. You just don't know how much your music means

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Speaker 2: to all of us man, like you know, us being

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Speaker 2: sons of Dayla and tribe and just coming from that

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Speaker 2: cloth groups like yourselves like you Slum Village, you guys.

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Speaker 2: You guys definitely continues at the time, and I'm proud

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Speaker 2: of everything that you've done and even transition into this

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Speaker 2: new medium. It's really dope.

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Speaker 4: Thank you so much, man.

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Speaker 3: So I guess we just started the episode already.

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Speaker 1: Flowers started with flowers.

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Speaker 3: We started with flowers.

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Speaker 2: I start with humility, brothers, because you guys, you guys

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Speaker 2: are always giving people flowers. Now it's time for you

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Speaker 2: to know what you mean to hip hop culture and

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Speaker 2: to hip hop kids like myself that started as be

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Speaker 2: boys breakdancers on the block just wanted to put on

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Speaker 2: for our communities, h you know, our ancestry. Unfortunately, hip

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Speaker 2: hop was the conduit. You know, breaking was the first

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Speaker 2: thing I got into. Then I got into graffiti mcm

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Speaker 2: I met my tribe where I am an apple the

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Speaker 2: app and we became uh, you know, we became brothers

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Speaker 2: and became black eyed peas. So when I see folks

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Speaker 2: like yourself, like a mirror and Fonte who set the

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Speaker 2: tone for hip hop culture, I always got to give

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Speaker 2: you your flowers.

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Speaker 4: That's love, brother, Thanks, thank you.

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Speaker 3: Wow. This is the first time where the guest actually

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Speaker 3: winds up entering the show. All right, ladies and gentlemen

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Speaker 3: of the internets, welcome to another exciting episode of course

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Speaker 3: Live Supreme. I'm your host, quest Love. We have fun

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Speaker 3: Tickeolo in the house. Brother. How's it going all right?

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Speaker 5: Man, I'm cool, just resting and uh yeah, getting ready

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Speaker 5: for Thursday and Friday of this week. This will it'll

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Speaker 5: have been passed by the time it's air, But yeah,

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Speaker 5: we Boston and New York this week, So I'm just

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Speaker 3: Man, is this a major tour or is this?

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Speaker 5: Uh nah, I mean it's not. Well, it's not major

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Speaker 5: in the sense of it's a lot of dates. We

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Speaker 5: just did San Diego and Orange County last weekend and

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Speaker 4: June we played Roots Picnic and yeah, it's fuck this.

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Speaker 4: I'm back in the outs like.

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Speaker 3: Really, oh yeah, wait, wait, I gotta ask, do you

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Speaker 3: do you feel like you? You? I know that of

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Speaker 3: all of us in this on this show that you,

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Speaker 3: more than anyone, has been extremely like almost it's Fort

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Speaker 3: Knox level protective of not catching the VID. And you

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Speaker 3: went out and then you you, you got caught out there.

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Speaker 5: I got that my first time leaving the house, my

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Speaker 5: first run in three years, our first LB run. You

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I got hit.

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Speaker 3: Well now that you got I mean, was it like

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Speaker 3: for me it was like just having a cold. Was

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Speaker 5: It was like having a cold, But for me it

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Speaker 5: was more so it wasn't necessarily just having a cold.

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Speaker 5: It was just participating in the delusion that this ship

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Speaker 5: is gone right, and like that's the part that I

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Speaker 5: just refused to do anymore. Like it's not in terms

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Speaker 5: of what touring is now, Touring pre COVID and turn

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Speaker 5: post COVID is just very different. And it's like now,

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Speaker 5: particularly for artists like us, I mean, where you're pretty

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Speaker 5: much doing everything like motors don't really do shit no

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Speaker 5: or so for me, I just looked at from the

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Speaker 5: standpoint of like, okay, I gotta play promoter, producer, performer,

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Speaker 5: curator and the fucking CDC.

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Speaker 4: Fuck this, dude, No, damn, I'm good, I'm paid Bill.

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Speaker 1: I went to get cigarettes again. I went to Australia.

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Speaker 1: I'm back.

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Speaker 3: You went to Australia.

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Speaker 1: I was in Australia for a few weeks to put

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Speaker 1: it's called and Juliette. You haven't seen it yet, but

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Speaker 1: you've threatened to a few times. It's on Broadway. Now

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Speaker 1: it's in Australia.

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Speaker 3: Wait, you guys are making it worldwide already.

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Speaker 1: Global domination, my friend, Global domination. That's how we do well.

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Speaker 3: Dan with the songbook, I would suspect that Anne Juliet

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Speaker 3: will probably be a five to ten year staple.

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Speaker 1: I hope, so that'd be nice for my kids college

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Speaker 1: tuition and all.

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Speaker 3: That's what's up, man, That's what's up, sugar, Steve Esteemed

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Speaker 3: jazz labelhead. What's going going on?

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Speaker 6: How are you? Everything's okay? I we finished three records

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Speaker 6: this past weekend. For the one of them yours. Yes,

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Speaker 6: we finished mixing David Mury Ray Angry and Questlova, a

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Speaker 6: four platter box set that you can look forward to see.

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Speaker 3: She ends up making my second jazz offering in my life.

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Speaker 1: We're calling the Philadelphi Experiment the first one.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the first one, okay, so I don't necessarily

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Speaker 3: called jazz, but you know this, this one was actually

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Speaker 3: probably I have more fun doing this one. I think

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Speaker 3: there's a lot of treats in there. So you're saying

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Speaker 6: Releasing, Yeah, four platters and a seven echine side and

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Speaker 6: it's going to be coming later this year.

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Speaker 3: Have son shiit? I might have to line of news

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Speaker 3: for that. Have we lost our queen today?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, she's on stage doing something something for.

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Speaker 3: Jill Oh okay, he came and set us up. That's nice,

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Speaker 3: ladies and gentlemen. I will say that our distinguished guest

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Speaker 3: today has checked many a bucket list fulfillment since having

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Speaker 3: entered our lives some twenty five plus years ago, as

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Speaker 3: one third or one fourth how you want to look

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Speaker 3: at it, as a one third member of a legendary,

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Speaker 3: Just looking at the stats made me feel like I'm

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Speaker 3: world tours, over sixty sixty various awards from the MAAS

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Speaker 3: for even the NAACP Awards, six Grammys, six Grammys, countless

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Speaker 3: ladies and gentlemen's. It's to me the achievements are cool.

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Speaker 3: But you know, in this episode, we get to know.

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Speaker 3: of us were pretty much a majority of us were

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Speaker 3: unaware of his of his advocacy work. Now, the thing is,

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Speaker 3: when I try to talk sports, Shut up Steve, or comics,

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Speaker 3: Shut up Steve. Okay, yes, I'm the guy that says

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Speaker 3: the sports, the comics. But I you know, I'll say

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Speaker 3: He's also an author of a kid's book about identity,

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Speaker 3: and most importantly, he's been extremely, extremely vocal in his

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Speaker 3: memoirs and his interviews being an advocate for surviving cancer

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Speaker 3: welcome to QLs MC. Author, political activists, actor, dancer, singer, songwriter, producer,

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Speaker 3: and yes, survivor. Jamie Gomez aka Taboo of the Black

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Speaker 3: Eyed Peace, Welcome.

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Speaker 2: To thank you for a lot. Yo. First of all,

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Speaker 2: I gotta acknowledge Steve for being a comic head. Steve,

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Speaker 2: salutes to you brother, the fact that Emir passed it

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Speaker 2: on to you and said sports comics not my thing.

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Speaker 2: It's all good, all good at storytelling. So salute to you, Steve.

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Speaker 2: And then Bill, you had me at two daughters. No, seriously,

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Speaker 2: And I'm not trying to be Kumbaya a Hallmark card,

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Speaker 2: the accolades and all the stuff that's monetary and all

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Speaker 2: shits so irrelevant. That shit is so irrelevant because you're like, YO,

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Speaker 2: just give me one more chance to be with my kids,

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Speaker 2: Let me hug my wife one more time, let me

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Speaker 2: I'm a fan of Fante. I know what they bring

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Speaker 2: humility is freaking key. A lot of people get caught

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Speaker 2: do that. Brother. I surrendered evil a long time ago.

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Speaker 4: And so how old are your daughters? Man?

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Speaker 2: Well, I have one daughter. Guess what, I have three

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Speaker 2: I was like, Yo, There's only been one other person

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Speaker 2: that has inspired me like that, and that was Kobe Bryant.

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Speaker 2: I had a chance to build my brother Kobe, and

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Speaker 3: So let me ask you for your life, when was

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I was going to say that. In doing research

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Speaker 2: With you about something.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I noticed that.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, man, thank you. You know at the time,

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Speaker 3: I've been putting this off for two you so I

434
00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:47,239
Speaker 3: finally got I did my test like a week and

435
00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:50,760
Speaker 3: a half ago, so you know, I'm good, clean bill

436
00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:54,800
Speaker 3: of health. But yeah, I just but I do know

437
00:23:55,320 --> 00:24:00,199
Speaker 3: that because of our unwillingness to catch it earlier or

438
00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:03,840
Speaker 3: that sort of thing, or to even find out, we'd

439
00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:05,680
Speaker 3: rather just live and bliss and then it's too late

440
00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:07,480
Speaker 3: and your body starts talking to you and then you

441
00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:11,920
Speaker 3: have that that pain. So but yeah, I will say that.

442
00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:15,560
Speaker 3: In doing research and seeing your story, then I guess

443
00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:17,920
Speaker 3: that kind of pushed me over the ledge, like all right, man,

444
00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:22,000
Speaker 3: just start doing your test, bro, get this together.

445
00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:25,560
Speaker 2: So well, we need we need more heroes without capes

446
00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:31,320
Speaker 2: in our communities that activate just you know, health is wealth, man.

447
00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:34,400
Speaker 2: And I learned that the hard way. I'm not a preacher.

448
00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:38,240
Speaker 2: I will never preach a health and wellness, but I

449
00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:40,960
Speaker 2: will shine light on it and be like, yo, we

450
00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:43,240
Speaker 2: need that more hip hop community. I see a lot

451
00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:47,160
Speaker 2: of our pioneers that are not taking care of themselves.

452
00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:50,359
Speaker 2: I'm like, yo, you know what I'm saying. And I'm

453
00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:52,840
Speaker 2: a fan of these pioneers, and some of them just

454
00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:55,680
Speaker 2: you know, and it's sad because with a little bit

455
00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:58,359
Speaker 2: of prevention, with a little bit of a conversation and

456
00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:03,000
Speaker 2: communication which can help bring that light. Like that's something

457
00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:07,240
Speaker 2: that you know, I would like to do that for communities,

458
00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:10,479
Speaker 2: just like just like what Lance Armstrong did. And I

459
00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:13,600
Speaker 2: know the whole scandal was whacking. It just ended up

460
00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:17,120
Speaker 2: like bullshit, right, But if I can be that conduit

461
00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:20,679
Speaker 2: of hope with my experience so that folks don't have

462
00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:22,960
Speaker 2: to go through it and can prevent it, just like

463
00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:25,639
Speaker 2: what you said, Amir, You're like, oh, I saw your

464
00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:28,160
Speaker 2: story and I'm like, fuck, okay, it's fifty one. Okay,

465
00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:30,400
Speaker 2: I'm gonna do it right. Maybe it with a little

466
00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:33,320
Speaker 2: nudge that you didn't even expect it. Maybe because you

467
00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:35,000
Speaker 2: saw what I went through, you're like, you know what,

468
00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:36,600
Speaker 2: all right, let me go get checked.

469
00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:38,880
Speaker 3: Definitely in a nudge. It is the nudge that finally

470
00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:40,439
Speaker 3: made me call my doctor and been like all right,

471
00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:43,120
Speaker 3: I'm coming in. Let mean you know, so I want

472
00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:43,840
Speaker 3: to credit you with that.

473
00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:47,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, man, It's a conversation that I think is healthy

474
00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:50,280
Speaker 2: to have. It's holistic. It's a way that we can

475
00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:53,680
Speaker 2: we can bring something that that you're trying to support

476
00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:57,200
Speaker 2: and nurture. The idea of just wanting to see your

477
00:25:57,280 --> 00:26:01,520
Speaker 2: people succeed and not only music or art, but also

478
00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:05,679
Speaker 2: in taking care of themselves.

479
00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:11,440
Speaker 3: Now I'm really going to start style. Where were you born?

480
00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:14,240
Speaker 2: I was born in East Los Angeles, Ball Heights, California.

481
00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:18,520
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, what's your what's you know for you? What's

482
00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:20,679
Speaker 3: your memories of of what your childhood was?

483
00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:26,240
Speaker 2: My grandmother, my grandmother was a beautiful Native woman from Jerome, Arizona.

484
00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:30,040
Speaker 2: She represented her roots to the to the t. She

485
00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:33,760
Speaker 2: was all about being of service, sometimes to her own detriment,

486
00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:37,120
Speaker 2: her own health, which taught me a lot about like, hey,

487
00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:39,960
Speaker 2: I'm gonna help, but I'm not gonna put my health

488
00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:43,480
Speaker 2: before anybody else. She was all about the arts and

489
00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:46,880
Speaker 2: music and dancing. It goes hand in hand with our ancestry.

490
00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:49,680
Speaker 2: You know, we use dancing as a way of prayer healing.

491
00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:53,720
Speaker 2: If you look at it old powout style dancers, a

492
00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:56,080
Speaker 2: lot of it is just stories that are being told

493
00:26:56,119 --> 00:26:59,239
Speaker 2: through their their style and their expression, and they use

494
00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:01,720
Speaker 2: that as a form of healing in prayer and so

495
00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:05,320
Speaker 2: growing up, my grandmother kind of still that that dancing

496
00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:09,040
Speaker 2: performing mentality at five years old, and I would be

497
00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:12,720
Speaker 2: dancing to like, you know, craft work and African Bombarda,

498
00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:17,960
Speaker 2: and you know, I got into craft work because of

499
00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:20,840
Speaker 2: African Bambada and Soul Solid and force. I started understanding

500
00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:25,000
Speaker 2: studying where that whole electronic style came from. And then

501
00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:27,840
Speaker 2: after that I saw, you know, when we saw Breaking

502
00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:31,679
Speaker 2: and you saw what's his name doing the frigging, so

503
00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:34,440
Speaker 2: you're like, yoh, what's that? Oh wait, that's craft work.

504
00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:36,920
Speaker 2: Wait a minute. So I started doing a deep dive

505
00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:39,720
Speaker 2: into like not just hip hop culture, but also where

506
00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:43,720
Speaker 2: it comes from, where that that electronic vibe came from. So,

507
00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:46,960
Speaker 2: you know, and and growing up, I started really sharpening

508
00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:50,120
Speaker 2: my swords as a B boy breaking being inspired by

509
00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:53,840
Speaker 2: breakers like Crazy Legs and the rock Steady Crew from

510
00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:56,720
Speaker 2: from New York, but also a lot of dancers from

511
00:27:56,800 --> 00:28:02,679
Speaker 2: from the West Coast like Popping Pete, Bugaloo, Shrimp, Jeffrey

512
00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:05,960
Speaker 2: Daniels who was part of Schlamar. He was filling it,

513
00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:08,000
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, Like he was ill with it.

514
00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:11,280
Speaker 2: He taught Mike MJ a lot of the stuff. But

515
00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:15,520
Speaker 2: also like Leg one, Leg two MC Lights Dancers, Mission

516
00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:19,760
Speaker 2: Impossible Special Eds dancers, you know, kid and play to

517
00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:23,600
Speaker 2: the scheme team which is Divine Stylers dancers. So brothers

518
00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:29,199
Speaker 2: that was Deaf Jeff's dancers. Yeah, the far side, you know,

519
00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:32,040
Speaker 2: and I mean the mop tops from a Buddhist stretch

520
00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:34,600
Speaker 2: from from New York. Like, I had such an innate

521
00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:38,680
Speaker 2: love for for freestyle dance, and then it got into housing.

522
00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:41,360
Speaker 2: Once housing came in, I was like, Yo, what's this

523
00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:43,920
Speaker 2: Because when I heard the younger brother said, say, girl,

524
00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:46,960
Speaker 2: our house you I was like housing. And I started

525
00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:51,120
Speaker 2: doing research on like soho and hot hot music, hot music,

526
00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:54,000
Speaker 2: hot from Doom Doom Do. I was like, Yo, what's

527
00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:56,760
Speaker 2: that style? So I started seeing these different styles Herb

528
00:28:56,840 --> 00:29:00,640
Speaker 2: Alpert North on South Street, watching those videos and really

529
00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:03,880
Speaker 2: immersing myself in the art fulm a dance. And then

530
00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:09,840
Speaker 2: I started studying the great Nicholas Brothers, James Brown, Sammy Davis,

531
00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:14,360
Speaker 2: Bob Fosse, all these amazing dancers that came from from

532
00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:17,800
Speaker 2: the past, and I started incorporating these styles and wanted

533
00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:21,920
Speaker 2: to to bring this this hip hop clash of like

534
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:26,480
Speaker 2: all these unique frequencies of movement. And so that was

535
00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:29,120
Speaker 2: my upbringing. Man, That's what I That's what I remember.

536
00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:31,680
Speaker 2: This is before me even meeting Will and Apple, before

537
00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:34,160
Speaker 2: we even became black Eyed peas. I started a group

538
00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:37,840
Speaker 2: called Divine Tribal Brothers, and of course who were sons

539
00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:41,720
Speaker 2: of tribe and we loved the Jungle Brothers, So Tribal

540
00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:47,520
Speaker 2: Brothers right right, Well, Will and Apple were tribal nation

541
00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:50,960
Speaker 2: because Zulu nation and try, you know, try call quest.

542
00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:55,080
Speaker 2: So eventually we became a crew and the name of

543
00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:57,080
Speaker 2: our crew was Grassroots and we were trying to do

544
00:29:57,360 --> 00:30:00,479
Speaker 2: like the Native Tongues in the West Coast because we

545
00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:02,000
Speaker 2: were so inspired by the Native tunks.

546
00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:05,360
Speaker 4: Wasn't just your grandmother? Was it mom and dad in

547
00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:07,360
Speaker 4: the picture? Like who was it?

548
00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:09,400
Speaker 2: My mom was in the picture, but you know she

549
00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:13,040
Speaker 2: was she was born in East La. Very typical mom

550
00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:16,560
Speaker 2: from from East La. She she was she didn't see

551
00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:19,240
Speaker 2: it like my grandmother saw it. She knew. She's like,

552
00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:20,760
Speaker 2: you get on the stage and you give the best

553
00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:24,280
Speaker 2: version of yourself and don't ever stop fighting when you're

554
00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:27,760
Speaker 2: on that stage. Right, So that b boy mentality, that killer,

555
00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:31,520
Speaker 2: that apex predator mentality, battle came from my grandmother's will

556
00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:35,680
Speaker 2: and her energy. Like yeah, I love Michael Jordan and

557
00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:39,040
Speaker 2: you know, Magic Johnson and all these sports figures and

558
00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:41,239
Speaker 2: Bruce Lee. It was a big, huge, inspiration. I love

559
00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:46,360
Speaker 2: Kumfort movies, Marsha black Belt Theater, loved Billy Jack. You know,

560
00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:49,720
Speaker 2: I love watching those old school eighties movies too. But

561
00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:52,600
Speaker 2: my grandmother was my superhero, and that's I think that's

562
00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:55,280
Speaker 2: why I kind of really got into storytelling and being

563
00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:58,400
Speaker 2: a superhero advocate because my grandmother was my hero.

564
00:30:58,560 --> 00:30:59,160
Speaker 4: Without a kid.

565
00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:04,360
Speaker 3: You mention hot music by Soho. Just found out that

566
00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:10,080
Speaker 3: Soho was basically are you are you? You remember Pal Joey? Absolutely?

567
00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:14,640
Speaker 3: I did not know so Pal Joey, who was kind

568
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:17,320
Speaker 3: of an engineer for karas One, So I guess around

569
00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:19,880
Speaker 3: the time when they're making Sex and Violence. I think

570
00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:22,840
Speaker 3: d Nice told me the story that basically all those

571
00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:26,160
Speaker 3: patches belonged to d Nice and karas One, like that's

572
00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:29,400
Speaker 3: how he made hop music. But Pal Joey was making

573
00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:31,880
Speaker 3: like house records on the side, just you know, for

574
00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:36,040
Speaker 3: extra cash and whatnot. So wow, and did not know it.

575
00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:39,560
Speaker 2: That's kind of like how we looked at when we

576
00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:42,960
Speaker 2: when we started getting that frequency of international ed M

577
00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:46,600
Speaker 2: electronic music around the world, whether it was Justice or

578
00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:50,760
Speaker 2: the the you know, uh, David Ghetto were traveled the

579
00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:54,000
Speaker 2: world and we're like, yo, remember that era of like

580
00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:56,960
Speaker 2: Girl a House, Hugh and the technotronic clump up the

581
00:31:57,040 --> 00:32:02,000
Speaker 2: gym Ya remember remember so Hot hop me. We started

582
00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:06,240
Speaker 2: talking about how we can connect and bring whatever was

583
00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:10,080
Speaker 2: happening around the world and bring that same frequency that

584
00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:12,400
Speaker 2: Jungle Brothers was doing when they did Grow a House,

585
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:16,040
Speaker 2: but just doing the Black Eyed Peace stuff and utilizing

586
00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:19,040
Speaker 2: those inspirations and those sounds and those frequencies that were

587
00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:23,040
Speaker 2: electronic that were popping in around the world that in

588
00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:25,960
Speaker 2: turn became the Boom Boom Pals and the I Gotta

589
00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:28,600
Speaker 2: Feelings and those big records that we did in two

590
00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:32,400
Speaker 2: thousand and eight to twenty eleven, and so all we

591
00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:36,480
Speaker 2: did was just regurgitate the inspiration that came from Jungle

592
00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:41,600
Speaker 2: Brothers and those folks that were transitioning into that.

593
00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:43,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, electro music, Yeah, electual music.

594
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:44,200
Speaker 4: Yeah.

595
00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:46,560
Speaker 3: When I talk to anyone from LA that's a dancer,

596
00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:49,959
Speaker 3: the first thing they always tell me is that, you know,

597
00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:53,840
Speaker 3: it wasn't Vogan. It's called whacking. There's a whacking culture.

598
00:32:53,880 --> 00:33:00,640
Speaker 3: Whacking culture whacking like what was I guess from outside

599
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:02,800
Speaker 3: of his standpoint, I mean, I'm a DJ, but I

600
00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:08,560
Speaker 3: don't really get many opportunities to do like house parties

601
00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:11,680
Speaker 3: like on frequently, maybe like four or five times a

602
00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:14,640
Speaker 3: year some club will hire me to do a house

603
00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:17,760
Speaker 3: set or whatever. But you know, were you at all

604
00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:20,280
Speaker 3: part of the whacking community like those?

605
00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:22,520
Speaker 2: It was a pretty tight niche. We were part of

606
00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:25,840
Speaker 2: the freestyle that Adrian Young's you know Adrian Young before

607
00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:29,440
Speaker 2: he became a producer. Wait, yeah, before Adrian Young became

608
00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:32,480
Speaker 2: a producer with at least Shahid mohamad Yo. This dude

609
00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:35,640
Speaker 2: was an incredible dancer, bro Like, he had the dreadlocks.

610
00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:38,840
Speaker 2: My man, Adrian Young was one of the illest dancers,

611
00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:41,760
Speaker 2: and we all came up together. You know. So shout

612
00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:44,720
Speaker 2: out to Adrian Young for his transition into becoming an

613
00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:48,880
Speaker 2: amazing cultivist of the culture. He just he's just such

614
00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:51,680
Speaker 2: a big inspiration because he did start as a dancer.

615
00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:54,080
Speaker 2: He started as a freestyle dancer with us.

616
00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:57,360
Speaker 3: So were you part of the good life community at

617
00:33:57,360 --> 00:33:59,240
Speaker 3: all or was that like sort of before we.

618
00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:01,000
Speaker 2: Had our own thing. We had our own thing called

619
00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:04,400
Speaker 2: Peace and Justice Center, which Black Eyed Peas spawned out

620
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:06,400
Speaker 2: of it. We also had punpkind Ahead. We used to

621
00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:09,960
Speaker 2: come out of there. Not a lot of main artists

622
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:12,560
Speaker 2: came out of there, but we had love and appreciation

623
00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:16,040
Speaker 2: for the abstract routes and the fellowships and you know

624
00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:22,440
Speaker 2: Medusa and all those folks. Yeah, Medusa. But we weren't

625
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:25,239
Speaker 2: that part of La. We weren't in Lamert Park. We

626
00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:30,000
Speaker 2: were in East La Glendale, Sangabo Valley, Los Feeliss Like

627
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:31,960
Speaker 2: that was our world. That was our stomping grounds. And

628
00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:34,480
Speaker 2: we were more in the Filipino community because of Apple Apples.

629
00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:36,440
Speaker 2: He was the guy that will bring us to the

630
00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:41,080
Speaker 2: Hi Filipino parties. So that's kind of where we we

631
00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:43,840
Speaker 2: were sharpened our swords and battle other crews.

632
00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:50,600
Speaker 3: My idea of battling really just stems from watching Beech

633
00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:54,399
Speaker 3: Street and that sort of thing. But you know, when

634
00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:56,960
Speaker 3: you go to a function, like take us back to

635
00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:01,840
Speaker 3: nineteen ninety or ninety one, if you're going to a function,

636
00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:05,320
Speaker 3: are you going there to flex that? I will dance

637
00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:06,960
Speaker 3: out dance to all of you, like how does a

638
00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:07,680
Speaker 3: battle start?

639
00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:11,080
Speaker 2: It's more of a spiritual warfare, bro, more than our

640
00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:15,719
Speaker 2: bat out dance you. It's more like when you know,

641
00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:19,160
Speaker 2: when you see the X Men battleling Scratch Pickles, or

642
00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:21,799
Speaker 2: you see the beat junkies battling these other DJs and

643
00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:26,879
Speaker 2: they're going there, they're killing. It's the same mentality for

644
00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:30,239
Speaker 2: for dancers or b boys or freestyle dancers, like we

645
00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:33,640
Speaker 2: are in there as apex predators to see who's got

646
00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:36,640
Speaker 2: the illest shit, How dope are you repid? What's the

647
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:39,319
Speaker 2: what's the dopest moves that you're bringing to be able

648
00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:43,000
Speaker 2: to show that you're representing your crew. And we, you know,

649
00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:47,520
Speaker 2: we watch movies like rac Shop by the mop Tops

650
00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:51,839
Speaker 2: and and Wild Style, and you know, we learned from

651
00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:55,360
Speaker 2: the greats watching the battles between rock Steady and the

652
00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:58,080
Speaker 2: other crews and seeing how they would go into it

653
00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:02,480
Speaker 2: and be able to present this beautiful art form that

654
00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:05,680
Speaker 2: was ghetto gymnastics that we were do in our backyards practicing,

655
00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:07,520
Speaker 2: and then we would bring it to the stage and

656
00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:09,879
Speaker 2: it was a performance. Basically, it was like people were

657
00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:12,520
Speaker 2: watching us battle and then Will would get on the

658
00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:14,600
Speaker 2: mic and battle on the m C tip. He was

659
00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:17,880
Speaker 2: a killer. He was a killer on the m seats

660
00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:21,000
Speaker 2: on the freestyle tip. And so there was this club

661
00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:25,880
Speaker 2: called Ballistics which Bud Bundy aka David Foxtino used to

662
00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:28,200
Speaker 2: put out and it was a hip hop club and

663
00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:32,960
Speaker 2: basically we would have you know, cruise from Pasadena, from

664
00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:35,760
Speaker 2: LA from South Central come to battle at the spot

665
00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:39,480
Speaker 2: in Hollywood, and that's where Buckwheat was at. That's where

666
00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:44,920
Speaker 2: the Far Side exhibit Robin Thick call of Patton, Leonardo DiCaprio.

667
00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:47,600
Speaker 2: We all came to Alyssa, Milano. We all came to

668
00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:50,800
Speaker 2: this club and we were all teenagers and black eyed peas.

669
00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:53,600
Speaker 2: That's where we met and that's where we started kind

670
00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:57,040
Speaker 2: of like conjugating at this club called Ballistics.

671
00:36:57,440 --> 00:37:00,680
Speaker 3: When these battles happened, Like is there a ticular crew

672
00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:05,920
Speaker 3: or a person to whom you were like, nah, man,

673
00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:08,919
Speaker 3: I'm gonna destroy and when I see him next, or

674
00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:12,120
Speaker 3: that sort of thing, like like what's the battle mentality?

675
00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:18,719
Speaker 3: To discredit another dancer? Not discredit another dancer, but like,

676
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:21,680
Speaker 3: how does one determine who won a dance battle?

677
00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:25,640
Speaker 2: I think it's more about the cruise, you know, and

678
00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:29,080
Speaker 2: and just getting the name up and getting your name

679
00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:32,800
Speaker 2: because the crew would give you merit in every city

680
00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:38,080
Speaker 2: if you're dominating these battles. It wasn't about money back then,

681
00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:40,600
Speaker 2: there was no money. It was like you know when

682
00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:43,759
Speaker 2: you watch eight mile, like eminems just battling. There was

683
00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:47,239
Speaker 2: no like it's like yo, you're battling for reputation, right,

684
00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:50,640
Speaker 2: and then you're battling at that time in the eighty

685
00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:53,120
Speaker 2: nine to ninety, it's like, Yo, I might be seen

686
00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:56,080
Speaker 2: by somebody that I can probably make this a living,

687
00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:58,080
Speaker 2: right because we don't know. We're like we see people

688
00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:00,719
Speaker 2: on television, we see people in the movie. He's like, oh, yeah,

689
00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:02,839
Speaker 2: I'm a dancer, I'm a b boy. Maybe I can

690
00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:06,839
Speaker 2: get a footloose opportunity. Maybe I can be on a

691
00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:09,520
Speaker 2: dated letterman, like the way that Crazy Legs was. You

692
00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:11,960
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. So this just as a kid

693
00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:14,440
Speaker 2: from the inner cities, You're just like, Yo, this is

694
00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:18,080
Speaker 2: my opportunity to express myself. At that time, I wasn't rapping.

695
00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:21,880
Speaker 2: I was just break dancing or freestyle dancing. And then

696
00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:26,759
Speaker 2: I started elevating my mentality to be able to utilize

697
00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:32,320
Speaker 2: performance dancing. And then with the guidance and the strength

698
00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:37,160
Speaker 2: and the leadership of Will, I was like, Yo, maybe

699
00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:40,200
Speaker 2: I can do this thing too and represent and utilize

700
00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:47,080
Speaker 2: this as another weapon production songwriting breaking and like the

701
00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:49,680
Speaker 2: way Chris Brown was, you know, Chris Brown had that

702
00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:51,840
Speaker 2: same type of philosophy. It's like I could be a

703
00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:54,200
Speaker 2: triple threat break it down because he wasn't just a

704
00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:58,200
Speaker 2: regular dancer or not just a regular dancer. He's actually

705
00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:00,239
Speaker 2: one of my favorites because he's able to do street

706
00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:03,640
Speaker 2: dancing and not you know, he can do choreography, but

707
00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:05,879
Speaker 2: he can also have his own freestyle bous to.

708
00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:11,480
Speaker 3: What was the point in which you knew or seriously

709
00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:15,719
Speaker 3: pursued like, Okay, this is what I want to do

710
00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:19,720
Speaker 3: for a living. What was your life into your daily

711
00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:25,040
Speaker 3: life into free entertainment, like as far as school or

712
00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:26,399
Speaker 3: a job or that sort of thing.

713
00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:29,280
Speaker 2: My first first job was at Disneyland picking up horsemen

714
00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:33,960
Speaker 2: after the electrical Parade, which was I was dealing with

715
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:37,200
Speaker 2: a lot of shit back then, ladies and gentlemen that

716
00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:39,840
Speaker 2: I was dealing with a lot of shit, But it

717
00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:44,839
Speaker 2: taught me being on point as far as like, you know,

718
00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:50,160
Speaker 2: being punctual, work, ethic, humility, because I was dealing with

719
00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:52,480
Speaker 2: a lot of shit, but also being part of a

720
00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:55,440
Speaker 2: corporate structure. And during the day I was I was

721
00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:58,120
Speaker 2: working at Disneyland, and at night I was performing with

722
00:39:58,160 --> 00:40:02,080
Speaker 2: Will and Apple, which was what was to become Black

723
00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:05,440
Speaker 2: Eyed Peas, And so I had a day job to

724
00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:09,640
Speaker 2: be able to facilitate my dream at night, just like

725
00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:11,480
Speaker 2: what you guys used to do a mirror at the

726
00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:13,480
Speaker 2: was it called Leilah's Was that spot?

727
00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:15,800
Speaker 3: What was that spot called the five Spot?

728
00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:20,200
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, yeah, the early years. Yes, So we used

729
00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:21,480
Speaker 2: to do that same thing. We used to go to

730
00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:24,480
Speaker 2: this Peace and Justice Center and just sharpen uswars do

731
00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:26,560
Speaker 2: like a jam or we had a live band and

732
00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:29,000
Speaker 2: we would rock out and we would do these performances.

733
00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:31,439
Speaker 2: And so even though we weren't getting paid a lot of money,

734
00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:33,879
Speaker 2: maybe like one hundred and two hundred bucks, we looked

735
00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:35,520
Speaker 2: at it like, oh, this is the start of something.

736
00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:38,120
Speaker 2: Maybe we can, you know, continue to grow this art

737
00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:41,919
Speaker 2: form and this this vehicle called Black Eyed Peas and

738
00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:45,239
Speaker 2: this could become something. So, you know, we're straight out

739
00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:47,840
Speaker 2: of high school, man, We're seventeen eighteen year old kids

740
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:50,120
Speaker 2: that that had a dollar in a dream or two

741
00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:53,960
Speaker 2: dollars in a dream for gas. And so Disneyland was

742
00:40:54,040 --> 00:41:00,200
Speaker 2: my first initial job fulfilling the dream because that was

743
00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:01,719
Speaker 2: the way I was able to pay for gas or

744
00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:04,880
Speaker 2: meals to get to the studio or to my performance.

745
00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:08,600
Speaker 5: I was gonna had y'all officially become at band clan

746
00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:10,720
Speaker 5: at that point, No so Will.

747
00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:14,359
Speaker 2: And Apple got signed at sixteen as an ad Bank clan,

748
00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:16,560
Speaker 2: and it was another brother named Mookie that was part

749
00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:20,640
Speaker 2: of that trio. Easy actually discovered Will and Apple at

750
00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:24,480
Speaker 2: Ballistics the Bud Bundy joint, and so he signed him.

751
00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:27,239
Speaker 2: He was like, Yo, I love, I love what you

752
00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:29,600
Speaker 2: guys represent. You guys are kind of like the West

753
00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:32,640
Speaker 2: Coast version of a Trap cal Quest or Diggable Planets.

754
00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:35,480
Speaker 2: You guys are like, you know, you got that whatever

755
00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:38,399
Speaker 2: whatever he said, Bohemian rap or whatever, because he didn't

756
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:40,960
Speaker 2: know how to explain it. And so he's like, I'm

757
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:43,640
Speaker 2: gonna do the same thing Diggable and Troy did in

758
00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:45,640
Speaker 2: the East Coast. I'm gonna do that for you guys

759
00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:49,000
Speaker 2: here in the West Coast. And so unfortunately Easy he

760
00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:52,480
Speaker 2: passed away in ninety five, and so that's that was

761
00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:55,080
Speaker 2: kind of the moment where Will was like, Yo, we

762
00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:56,839
Speaker 2: got to start a new thing. It can't be ad

763
00:41:56,880 --> 00:42:00,239
Speaker 2: Bank plan So let's just I don't know, called it

764
00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:03,279
Speaker 2: blue Unit. Nah, that's why. Uh let's call it, uh,

765
00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:08,200
Speaker 2: let's call it uh Beans of rice why? Nah, it's

766
00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:11,600
Speaker 2: just kind of whack. What about uh? What about black

767
00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:16,080
Speaker 2: eyed peas peas? What does that represent black eyed peas

768
00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:18,560
Speaker 2: is so food we could feed the soul with our music.

769
00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:22,040
Speaker 2: Oh shit, okay, black eyed peas and black eyed peas

770
00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:26,319
Speaker 2: brings good luck during New Year's we bring good luck

771
00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:28,560
Speaker 2: with our music. So we started coming with a cool

772
00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:31,799
Speaker 2: ideas about what black eyed peas represented. And plus, there

773
00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:34,000
Speaker 2: wasn't a lot of food groups out there other than

774
00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:34,640
Speaker 2: the chili.

775
00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:45,279
Speaker 3: Right, Fante, You're kind of a part of this, but you,

776
00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:50,399
Speaker 3: you and Pooh don't necessarily do like run DMC Tug

777
00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:55,239
Speaker 3: of War style. But you know in the piece there

778
00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:58,400
Speaker 3: are various songs in which you guys trade lines and

779
00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:02,160
Speaker 3: that sort of thing. Can you describe to me, like

780
00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:06,720
Speaker 3: what is the creative process when you are one third

781
00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:10,920
Speaker 3: of a unit and you're creating a song, and you know,

782
00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:13,759
Speaker 3: of course there's the old all right, you get one verse,

783
00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:16,759
Speaker 3: you get one verse, you get one verse, but you

784
00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:19,799
Speaker 3: know who decides which verse goes first? He's the first

785
00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:23,160
Speaker 3: verse to be heard. Who decides like when you guys

786
00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:25,600
Speaker 3: are writing songs and which you are are trading like

787
00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:28,160
Speaker 3: tug of War lines, Like walk me through just the

788
00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:31,759
Speaker 3: creative process of how you guys develop your lyrics.

789
00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:36,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would say the best way to describe the

790
00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:42,960
Speaker 2: most recent exchange of even shared contributions is this album

791
00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:45,839
Speaker 2: called Masters in the Sun, which we put out in

792
00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:49,839
Speaker 2: twenty eighteen, which is probably about that love that record, Yes,

793
00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:52,880
Speaker 2: thank you Brother, which is our best work. It's not

794
00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:56,480
Speaker 2: a pop record, it's a strictly Black Eyed Peas is

795
00:43:56,680 --> 00:43:59,719
Speaker 2: showing you what we still are capable of doing as

796
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:03,279
Speaker 2: hip hop kids. As MC's we got to work with

797
00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:08,080
Speaker 2: our freaking one of our mentors, Lallo Shipperd doing all

798
00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:11,799
Speaker 2: these tres. So that being said, you know, we were

799
00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:14,600
Speaker 2: just in the studio just viben, like jumping around and

800
00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:17,160
Speaker 2: just acting like we were seventeen again. And that's what

801
00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:20,480
Speaker 2: the piece is like. It's a friendship. You know. We've

802
00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:24,080
Speaker 2: had different iterations of as you mentioned earlier about like

803
00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:26,680
Speaker 2: is it a third, is it a fourth? You know,

804
00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:28,759
Speaker 2: shout out to all the ladies that have been part

805
00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:30,799
Speaker 2: of our journey. But at the end of the day,

806
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:34,359
Speaker 2: like Black Eyed Peas is myself where I am an

807
00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:36,960
Speaker 2: apple and it's always been that, and so what you

808
00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:39,719
Speaker 2: see on stage is us jumping around having a good time,

809
00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:43,680
Speaker 2: just you know, not taking ourselves too seriously, not to

810
00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:46,000
Speaker 2: dayl out soul, not to daylight because they said the

811
00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:50,879
Speaker 2: same thing that inspired us. So we just we do that.

812
00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:53,600
Speaker 2: We are in the studio and we're building and we

813
00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:55,799
Speaker 2: say a couple of words. I don't like that line.

814
00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:57,799
Speaker 2: Maybe we've changed that line. All right, app what do

815
00:44:57,800 --> 00:44:59,640
Speaker 2: you got? Apple? Say something? And then we just start

816
00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:02,279
Speaker 2: exchange and then you have your traditional like you know,

817
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:05,080
Speaker 2: tab what you got? You? I got this first? Okay,

818
00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:07,359
Speaker 2: you go first? All right, well we got this. So

819
00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:12,560
Speaker 2: there's no recipe. It's just we're scientists in there. We

820
00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:15,920
Speaker 2: we tap into a frequency that we want to display

821
00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:20,440
Speaker 2: on every song and it comes out magical because we

822
00:45:20,520 --> 00:45:23,480
Speaker 2: know our formula. We know how to maneuver on stage

823
00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:25,040
Speaker 2: and in the studio as a trio.

824
00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:28,279
Speaker 5: You spoke about briefly about the ladies that y'all worked

825
00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:29,120
Speaker 5: with over the years.

826
00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:31,160
Speaker 4: I want to ask you specifically about Kim Hill.

827
00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:34,160
Speaker 5: I really love her, Like, what memories do you have

828
00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:36,000
Speaker 5: of working with her during that time of.

829
00:45:36,080 --> 00:45:38,680
Speaker 2: First of all, I just want to acknowledge all the

830
00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:41,479
Speaker 2: ladies that have worked with us, and Kim Hill set

831
00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:45,800
Speaker 2: the tone. You know, She's been such an amazing piece

832
00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:48,799
Speaker 2: of our history. And for those folks that don't know,

833
00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:53,919
Speaker 2: she's an amazing designer as well. She has some pieces. Yeah,

834
00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:58,600
Speaker 2: DJ She's a great mom and she's just she's all

835
00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:02,960
Speaker 2: around amazing. So she just set the tone for us

836
00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:05,319
Speaker 2: because she was older than us at the time when

837
00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:07,759
Speaker 2: we're when we started Black Eyed Peas, so she was

838
00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:10,400
Speaker 2: kind of like an older sister figure to us, and

839
00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:12,480
Speaker 2: she kept us online when we're on tour. You know,

840
00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:15,880
Speaker 2: we're like teenagers. She was in her early twenties and

841
00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:18,640
Speaker 2: we were like, you know, still kind of goofy and

842
00:46:18,680 --> 00:46:20,680
Speaker 2: messing around, and she'd be like, Yo, guys, we gotta

843
00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:23,160
Speaker 2: we gotta show them arow or whatever. But it was

844
00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:25,000
Speaker 2: cool because we looked at her as like an older

845
00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:30,160
Speaker 2: sister and she always showed love. She was always inspirational,

846
00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:34,040
Speaker 2: and you know, to this day, I'll hit her up

847
00:46:34,040 --> 00:46:37,160
Speaker 2: on Instagram and we just we have a mutual respect

848
00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:39,719
Speaker 2: for each other. So so I'm glad you said that, man,

849
00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:42,600
Speaker 2: because she contributed a lot to the first two albums

850
00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:45,960
Speaker 2: behind the front and bridging the gap, and you know,

851
00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:50,960
Speaker 2: she's just she's amazing and I'm proud of everything she's

852
00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:52,600
Speaker 2: doing now. So salute to Kim Hill.

853
00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:57,040
Speaker 3: He walked us through the process of what led to

854
00:46:57,160 --> 00:47:00,720
Speaker 3: the deal with Interscope from the time that you got

855
00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:04,680
Speaker 3: form the group to getting that deal, Like, what was

856
00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:05,320
Speaker 3: the process?

857
00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:08,560
Speaker 2: A lot of a lot of shows, man, a lot

858
00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:11,359
Speaker 2: of shows, A lot of no's, Black eyed peas, You're

859
00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:17,000
Speaker 2: not tangible enough. There's already a slum village, there's already roots,

860
00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:19,720
Speaker 2: there's already a Fuji's What makes you thinks you're gonna

861
00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:20,520
Speaker 2: sell records?

862
00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:26,520
Speaker 3: I feir.

863
00:47:28,040 --> 00:47:30,320
Speaker 2: Man, it was. We dealt with a lot of no's.

864
00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:34,239
Speaker 2: It's not tangible enough. I don't hear any uh, you know,

865
00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:37,360
Speaker 2: who are the black eyed peas? What are the black

866
00:47:37,360 --> 00:47:39,560
Speaker 2: eyed peas? Like? You know what? You got a ninja

867
00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:41,839
Speaker 2: and a black guy in a Filipino like, what are

868
00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:46,799
Speaker 2: you guys? You know? So it's just not understanding what

869
00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:49,200
Speaker 2: what we were going to contribute to the world. And

870
00:47:49,239 --> 00:47:52,040
Speaker 2: we always had an international mindset because Apple came from

871
00:47:52,040 --> 00:47:54,640
Speaker 2: the Philippines, so we knew wanted to make music for

872
00:47:54,680 --> 00:47:58,239
Speaker 2: the world. And even if domestic didn't understand what we

873
00:47:58,239 --> 00:48:00,440
Speaker 2: were trying to do with our music, because we were

874
00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:04,360
Speaker 2: inspired by you know, Georgie Benjor and Sergio Mendez and

875
00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:09,560
Speaker 2: Brazil sixty six and all these amazing Brazilian artists and

876
00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:12,719
Speaker 2: We loved the samples. We loved those ideas of being

877
00:48:12,760 --> 00:48:15,479
Speaker 2: able to go to Brazil one day and being able

878
00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:18,920
Speaker 2: to tour Europe and making a stamp in Europe, just

879
00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:21,600
Speaker 2: like the way Jimmy Hendrix did, the way that the

880
00:48:21,640 --> 00:48:23,640
Speaker 2: Doors did, the way that you guys did at a

881
00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:26,480
Speaker 2: jazz cafe. You know, it was just that that idea

882
00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:30,759
Speaker 2: of always wanted to go international, and so you know,

883
00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:32,520
Speaker 2: it was it was a journey man. It was a

884
00:48:32,600 --> 00:48:37,440
Speaker 2: journey of belief, of doubling down on ourselves when people

885
00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:41,000
Speaker 2: were doubting us, and we just we just continued tucking

886
00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:43,400
Speaker 2: on and fortuneen Jimmy Ivy and saw the genius and

887
00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:45,120
Speaker 2: what was to become Black Eyed Peas. And the thing

888
00:48:45,160 --> 00:48:47,239
Speaker 2: that he said to us is we were going through

889
00:48:47,239 --> 00:48:50,279
Speaker 2: a bidding war. It was poly Anthony and Sony Rest

890
00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:54,360
Speaker 2: in Peace at five fifty, and it was also Tom

891
00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:59,759
Speaker 2: Wally at Oarner Brothers and then at Jimmy Ivy and

892
00:48:59,840 --> 00:49:03,439
Speaker 2: so so Jimmy's like, you know, you can make records here,

893
00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:06,839
Speaker 2: no matter how many records you sell. You can have

894
00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:09,479
Speaker 2: a career here with me. You can get a million

895
00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:13,160
Speaker 2: dollars from Sony, But who knows what they're gonna do

896
00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:15,480
Speaker 2: as far as you're touring, you guys are a touring band.

897
00:49:16,800 --> 00:49:19,120
Speaker 2: If you guys are about the money, you can go

898
00:49:19,160 --> 00:49:21,319
Speaker 2: to Son. But if you're about a career and have

899
00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:26,280
Speaker 2: longevity and belief, come here. So you know, fortunately we chose,

900
00:49:26,360 --> 00:49:28,200
Speaker 2: we chose right, and Jimmy was kind of like the

901
00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:32,040
Speaker 2: He was the godfather that led us on that path.

902
00:49:32,840 --> 00:49:37,239
Speaker 3: Whenever an artist puts the big hit at the very

903
00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:41,040
Speaker 3: end of the album, then I always feel like, Okay,

904
00:49:41,160 --> 00:49:45,080
Speaker 3: maybe they didn't believe in the product or whatever. And

905
00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:50,879
Speaker 3: I know that when behind the front bridging the gap,

906
00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:54,120
Speaker 3: not behind it. Yeah, so you know, there was a

907
00:49:54,160 --> 00:49:56,160
Speaker 3: second where it's like, okay, you guys get in traction

908
00:49:56,320 --> 00:49:59,640
Speaker 3: on on TRL and this is about to happen. You

909
00:49:59,640 --> 00:50:03,319
Speaker 3: guys have out to do it. Could you describe what

910
00:50:03,719 --> 00:50:07,920
Speaker 3: the feeling is like when it's it's kind of a

911
00:50:07,920 --> 00:50:10,600
Speaker 3: close but no cigar moment, and then you have to

912
00:50:10,600 --> 00:50:16,120
Speaker 3: make a decision on what your your surviving is going

913
00:50:16,200 --> 00:50:18,719
Speaker 3: to be sink or swim? Like, did you walk through

914
00:50:18,719 --> 00:50:19,280
Speaker 3: that period?

915
00:50:20,480 --> 00:50:22,919
Speaker 2: That's when we knew the internet was real?

916
00:50:24,880 --> 00:50:26,400
Speaker 3: Oh shit, Okay, this is when.

917
00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:31,479
Speaker 2: We found out the Internet existed and it I mean

918
00:50:31,600 --> 00:50:34,320
Speaker 2: it swallowed ourselves. It was this thing called Nabster.

919
00:50:35,320 --> 00:50:37,040
Speaker 3: Okay, we had all the.

920
00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:40,920
Speaker 2: Promo marketing, all the looks you can have. We were

921
00:50:40,920 --> 00:50:44,319
Speaker 2: on tour, on a college invasion tour with Daylight and

922
00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:48,840
Speaker 2: White Left and I believe it was Bismarquis, and we

923
00:50:48,840 --> 00:50:51,799
Speaker 2: would go to these like little after parties and they

924
00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:54,680
Speaker 2: were playing Bridging the Gap. We're like, yo. Will gets

925
00:50:54,680 --> 00:50:57,520
Speaker 2: all mad. It's like, tap, did you did you bring

926
00:50:57,840 --> 00:50:59,719
Speaker 2: bring the record? Because the record wasn't out yet? Did

927
00:50:59,719 --> 00:51:01,239
Speaker 2: you bring the record here? I was like, no, what

928
00:51:01,239 --> 00:51:04,799
Speaker 2: are you talking about? He's like, who's playing the fucking record?

929
00:51:05,160 --> 00:51:07,000
Speaker 2: So it was a girl She's like, I love your

930
00:51:07,040 --> 00:51:09,319
Speaker 2: new albums, and Will was like, what do you mean

931
00:51:09,360 --> 00:51:11,719
Speaker 2: our new album it's not even out. He's like, yeah,

932
00:51:11,800 --> 00:51:13,880
Speaker 2: it's out, it's out on Napster. He's like, what the

933
00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:19,239
Speaker 2: fuck is Napster. It's like, what's Napster? She's like, Napster's

934
00:51:19,320 --> 00:51:21,920
Speaker 2: like the new pirting shit, like you can get all

935
00:51:21,960 --> 00:51:28,640
Speaker 2: these like new albums. So we basically found out that

936
00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:32,960
Speaker 2: our album had been pirated and been freaking downloaded for free,

937
00:51:33,480 --> 00:51:36,799
Speaker 2: and so the momentum was like, oh shit, we did

938
00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:39,680
Speaker 2: all this promo. We did. We were on tour, TRL

939
00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:43,120
Speaker 2: picked up the song, but we only sold we sold

940
00:51:43,239 --> 00:51:46,399
Speaker 2: less than behind the front because people are now going

941
00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:48,439
Speaker 2: to Napster, so they got they get it for free

942
00:51:48,440 --> 00:51:51,080
Speaker 2: instead of buying the record, buying the CD. So then

943
00:51:51,120 --> 00:51:53,719
Speaker 2: we said, yo, we got to go into creating the

944
00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:57,040
Speaker 2: next record. So that's when we went into creating the

945
00:51:57,200 --> 00:51:59,880
Speaker 2: Elephant album. This is two thousand and one.

946
00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:04,799
Speaker 3: Right, So how are decisions made as far as who

947
00:52:04,880 --> 00:52:07,640
Speaker 3: to work with, who to bring, like what producer to

948
00:52:07,680 --> 00:52:10,600
Speaker 3: work with, what members to let in the group? Where

949
00:52:10,600 --> 00:52:14,960
Speaker 3: all those things, like how are you guys just around

950
00:52:15,040 --> 00:52:19,000
Speaker 3: this point in the early aughts in terms of communication,

951
00:52:20,320 --> 00:52:20,759
Speaker 3: It's like.

952
00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:26,160
Speaker 2: We're all going through our own individual issues. And I

953
00:52:26,200 --> 00:52:29,440
Speaker 2: remember at being away from from the studio a lot.

954
00:52:29,760 --> 00:52:32,680
Speaker 2: So it's me and Will heavy in the studio on elephone.

955
00:52:33,520 --> 00:52:37,399
Speaker 2: And at that time, nine eleven happened, so we were

956
00:52:37,480 --> 00:52:41,600
Speaker 2: recording Bodega Bay. Nine eleven happens. We're supposed to go

957
00:52:41,680 --> 00:52:45,320
Speaker 2: on tour in September twelve. We go on tour September twelve,

958
00:52:46,080 --> 00:52:48,680
Speaker 2: and we travel around the US and we see all

959
00:52:48,719 --> 00:52:53,120
Speaker 2: this divide, all this, you know, all this hatred towards

960
00:52:53,160 --> 00:52:57,520
Speaker 2: Middle Eastern people, and so we were like, yo, we

961
00:52:57,600 --> 00:53:01,719
Speaker 2: kept asking the question, No, where's the love within humanity?

962
00:53:02,719 --> 00:53:04,759
Speaker 2: So we would go to these different spots asking the

963
00:53:04,760 --> 00:53:09,840
Speaker 2: same question, where's the love within humanity? Where's the love? Okay,

964
00:53:09,880 --> 00:53:12,239
Speaker 2: that's that's kind of dope. There's something there with this

965
00:53:12,400 --> 00:53:17,239
Speaker 2: topic where's the love? So we started creating where's the love?

966
00:53:17,400 --> 00:53:22,760
Speaker 2: The record the song, and we recorded these records where's

967
00:53:22,760 --> 00:53:26,760
Speaker 2: the Love? Let's get it started. We recorded Hey Mama,

968
00:53:26,880 --> 00:53:29,880
Speaker 2: all these joints off at elephone, and I remember we

969
00:53:30,280 --> 00:53:32,080
Speaker 2: played it for Ron Fair and he said, I don't

970
00:53:32,080 --> 00:53:37,719
Speaker 2: hear a single? What I don't hear a single? So

971
00:53:38,320 --> 00:53:41,000
Speaker 2: are exacts? Are like, we don't hear a single on elephone?

972
00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:44,400
Speaker 2: So we're like, we gotta double down. If this is

973
00:53:44,440 --> 00:53:46,839
Speaker 2: our last record, what are we gonna do? So at

974
00:53:46,880 --> 00:53:49,799
Speaker 2: that time, we had been dealing with a girl that

975
00:53:49,880 --> 00:53:52,960
Speaker 2: Will had been working with named Stacy, and she was

976
00:53:52,960 --> 00:53:55,480
Speaker 2: working on a solo project and she had been singing

977
00:53:55,600 --> 00:53:57,640
Speaker 2: like you know when you have a girl in the studio,

978
00:53:57,719 --> 00:54:00,879
Speaker 2: she's singing the girl parts that we will roll yeah,

979
00:54:00,960 --> 00:54:04,600
Speaker 2: so so referencing stuff. But it actually sounded good and

980
00:54:04,680 --> 00:54:11,000
Speaker 2: we kept it on there and her voice was something

981
00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:13,439
Speaker 2: that we gravitated to. She was dope. She had had

982
00:54:13,800 --> 00:54:16,800
Speaker 2: her own group prior to us having her in the studio.

983
00:54:16,920 --> 00:54:20,560
Speaker 2: She was a teenage or like a kid star, and

984
00:54:20,640 --> 00:54:23,480
Speaker 2: so we're like, yo, this maybe there's some magic here.

985
00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:27,319
Speaker 2: So we kept on the records and then we're like, yo,

986
00:54:28,200 --> 00:54:31,160
Speaker 2: are we gonna put put her in the group? Like, yo,

987
00:54:31,239 --> 00:54:35,359
Speaker 2: we we've had all these different females. It's not anything new.

988
00:54:35,480 --> 00:54:39,000
Speaker 2: We've never you know, it's it's not that we've not

989
00:54:39,120 --> 00:54:41,719
Speaker 2: had a female, because we have. We had Kim Hill,

990
00:54:41,800 --> 00:54:47,760
Speaker 2: Macy Gray, Stero, Don Beckman, Noel Skaggs, all these females

991
00:54:47,800 --> 00:54:50,640
Speaker 2: have worked with us, DeBie Nova. But now there was

992
00:54:50,680 --> 00:54:53,759
Speaker 2: going to be a female that might not fit the

993
00:54:53,800 --> 00:54:56,799
Speaker 2: mold because he's coming from a group that was more

994
00:54:56,840 --> 00:55:00,960
Speaker 2: of like a pop group. So we just said, fuck it,

995
00:55:01,239 --> 00:55:04,080
Speaker 2: let's go, let's let's make this happen. Let's just bring

996
00:55:04,120 --> 00:55:06,000
Speaker 2: in the crew, let's take her on tour. We took

997
00:55:06,040 --> 00:55:10,160
Speaker 2: her on tour. People hated it. They were like, oh man,

998
00:55:10,320 --> 00:55:13,520
Speaker 2: what's this. This ain't black eyed Peas. I'm not feeling this.

999
00:55:13,719 --> 00:55:16,160
Speaker 2: So they were hate, Like yo, it just turned like

1000
00:55:16,719 --> 00:55:19,680
Speaker 2: it turned negative because we have this new girl in

1001
00:55:19,719 --> 00:55:23,680
Speaker 2: the group Fergie, and so we put out Where's the Love?

1002
00:55:25,440 --> 00:55:30,319
Speaker 2: And it smashes Oh. Before that, we actually I went

1003
00:55:30,360 --> 00:55:33,080
Speaker 2: to a club in La called Josephs and I met

1004
00:55:33,120 --> 00:55:35,839
Speaker 2: this kid who was a part of this boy band

1005
00:55:35,960 --> 00:55:39,000
Speaker 2: and he's a dancer, and so he's transitioning from like

1006
00:55:39,280 --> 00:55:43,919
Speaker 2: this boy band to becoming a solo artist. I'm like, yo, man,

1007
00:55:43,920 --> 00:55:47,560
Speaker 2: if you have talent, I don't care where you're coming from. Bro, Like,

1008
00:55:47,680 --> 00:55:50,520
Speaker 2: if you got talent, let's go, let's work. He's like, yeah,

1009
00:55:50,520 --> 00:55:53,239
Speaker 2: I'm working with Pharrell. I got this new project that

1010
00:55:53,280 --> 00:55:56,480
Speaker 2: I'm doing. I'm transitioning from this group to now doing

1011
00:55:56,480 --> 00:55:58,440
Speaker 2: my solo thing. I was like, Yo, you think you

1012
00:55:58,440 --> 00:56:00,759
Speaker 2: can sing a hook on this record? We have right now?

1013
00:56:00,880 --> 00:56:03,160
Speaker 2: Is Where's the Love? The Love? The Love?

1014
00:56:03,239 --> 00:56:03,719
Speaker 4: That was it?

1015
00:56:04,640 --> 00:56:07,000
Speaker 2: I said, can you give me something like mercy mercy

1016
00:56:07,080 --> 00:56:10,319
Speaker 2: me or like What's going on by Marvin Gaye? He says,

1017
00:56:10,320 --> 00:56:15,520
Speaker 2: all right, cool, give me a minute. He goes creates

1018
00:56:15,560 --> 00:56:17,799
Speaker 2: whatever he's gonna create. He calls me like, tab I

1019
00:56:17,880 --> 00:56:20,880
Speaker 2: got it. He sings it over the phone. People killing,

1020
00:56:21,000 --> 00:56:24,279
Speaker 2: people dying, children hurt, and you hear them crying. I'm like, yo,

1021
00:56:24,360 --> 00:56:25,040
Speaker 2: what the what?

1022
00:56:25,880 --> 00:56:26,080
Speaker 3: Yo?

1023
00:56:26,280 --> 00:56:29,200
Speaker 2: I gotta call Will. I call Will. I tell him, Yo,

1024
00:56:29,280 --> 00:56:32,800
Speaker 2: Will I got the hook? You're like, you got the hook? No,

1025
00:56:33,200 --> 00:56:35,160
Speaker 2: I got the person to sing the hook from. Where's

1026
00:56:35,160 --> 00:56:39,320
Speaker 2: the Love? He's like, who I said, justin Timberlake? He's

1027
00:56:39,360 --> 00:56:46,200
Speaker 2: like justin Timberlake? The Backstreet boy he's he's not a

1028
00:56:46,239 --> 00:56:49,840
Speaker 2: Backstreet boy, he's part of in Sync. He's in Sync.

1029
00:56:49,960 --> 00:56:52,600
Speaker 2: He's like, that's even fucking worse. Tab Why are we

1030
00:56:52,640 --> 00:56:56,640
Speaker 2: gonna have that guy sing on our hook? But I

1031
00:56:56,719 --> 00:57:01,280
Speaker 2: saw what he brought. I didn't care what his past

1032
00:57:01,360 --> 00:57:02,880
Speaker 2: or where he was coming from. It's like, if the

1033
00:57:02,960 --> 00:57:05,400
Speaker 2: song is great, I don't care who's singing it. Let's go.

1034
00:57:06,120 --> 00:57:07,880
Speaker 2: So he comes in and he records it, and the

1035
00:57:07,960 --> 00:57:12,400
Speaker 2: left the rest is magic. We put it out, creates

1036
00:57:12,440 --> 00:57:17,160
Speaker 2: this huge, huge, amazing frequency around the world. It becomes

1037
00:57:17,200 --> 00:57:20,920
Speaker 2: our first number one record, and Ron Fairs puts strings

1038
00:57:20,960 --> 00:57:23,760
Speaker 2: on it, and that was his connection to it. I

1039
00:57:23,760 --> 00:57:24,440
Speaker 2: always knew it was.

1040
00:57:24,600 --> 00:57:25,160
Speaker 4: To be a hit.

1041
00:57:25,200 --> 00:57:29,680
Speaker 3: Little buddy, when this song finally takes off, what was

1042
00:57:29,720 --> 00:57:33,440
Speaker 3: the first paradigm shift that occurred in your life? I

1043
00:57:33,440 --> 00:57:35,560
Speaker 3: guess you can only have one time to have that

1044
00:57:35,640 --> 00:57:41,880
Speaker 3: experience in which you instantly see the shift of first

1045
00:57:41,920 --> 00:57:47,280
Speaker 3: we were a niche, underground group and suddenly we might

1046
00:57:47,320 --> 00:57:50,400
Speaker 3: be the establishment, So what what is happening?

1047
00:57:50,440 --> 00:57:50,560
Speaker 1: Like?

1048
00:57:51,000 --> 00:57:53,000
Speaker 3: What's the feeling like? What happens?

1049
00:57:53,360 --> 00:57:54,920
Speaker 2: I love that you said that because I was so

1050
00:57:55,080 --> 00:58:01,280
Speaker 2: proud of you transitioning into Late Night Fellon because it

1051
00:58:01,320 --> 00:58:03,560
Speaker 2: was dope to see you guys like you know, and

1052
00:58:03,720 --> 00:58:08,240
Speaker 2: that umbrella sparked you to be able to be in

1053
00:58:08,280 --> 00:58:11,040
Speaker 2: the space of the oscars and have to people, to

1054
00:58:11,080 --> 00:58:12,880
Speaker 2: be acting and all the great things that you guys

1055
00:58:12,920 --> 00:58:16,120
Speaker 2: have been doing. So that being said, I think for

1056
00:58:16,320 --> 00:58:19,960
Speaker 2: us because I'm I love comedy man, I'm a big

1057
00:58:20,080 --> 00:58:23,040
Speaker 2: big I love comedy and humor. When we were on

1058
00:58:23,400 --> 00:58:25,840
Speaker 2: parody on Saturday Night Live, yeah.

1059
00:58:25,720 --> 00:58:27,520
Speaker 3: I was gonna say, how did that feel to be?

1060
00:58:28,440 --> 00:58:33,320
Speaker 2: Yo? We made it boy from East to La that

1061
00:58:33,520 --> 00:58:37,240
Speaker 2: just loves hip hop culture and yes it was tongue

1062
00:58:37,280 --> 00:58:39,240
Speaker 2: in cheek. It was funny. It's like they're making fun

1063
00:58:39,240 --> 00:58:41,560
Speaker 2: of the black eyed Peas, but they're mentioning the black

1064
00:58:41,640 --> 00:58:42,640
Speaker 2: eye ps.

1065
00:58:42,920 --> 00:58:45,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what I'm saying.

1066
00:58:45,360 --> 00:58:48,240
Speaker 2: My brother Apple came from Philippines not knowing a word

1067
00:58:48,240 --> 00:58:52,120
Speaker 2: of English because hip hop taught him how to speak English.

1068
00:58:52,160 --> 00:58:56,480
Speaker 2: Do you write a dictionary? Learned how to rap and

1069
00:58:56,640 --> 00:58:59,680
Speaker 2: became a freaking huge international superstar from the.

1070
00:58:59,600 --> 00:59:01,880
Speaker 4: Film pop y'all are pop culture references like that.

1071
00:59:02,000 --> 00:59:06,720
Speaker 2: So I'm like, yo, you gotta own it. Who else

1072
00:59:06,800 --> 00:59:09,280
Speaker 2: but us? I mean, we get ship if it's there,

1073
00:59:09,600 --> 00:59:12,600
Speaker 2: own it. And if people hate all good Oh you

1074
00:59:12,600 --> 00:59:16,080
Speaker 2: guys shell outs. Yeah, we're selling out stadiums around the world.

1075
00:59:16,600 --> 00:59:20,840
Speaker 3: Yeah. You know. My manager used to tease Tarika and

1076
00:59:20,920 --> 00:59:24,640
Speaker 3: I about like he would always say, well, you guys

1077
00:59:24,800 --> 00:59:27,640
Speaker 3: are salty because you never got your what he calls

1078
00:59:27,680 --> 00:59:32,440
Speaker 3: your Bentley moment and his short His short Bentley moment

1079
00:59:32,560 --> 00:59:36,440
Speaker 3: was sort of a shorthand for like whatever it is

1080
00:59:36,480 --> 00:59:39,840
Speaker 3: the life that rappers think that rappers should be going through.

1081
00:59:40,520 --> 00:59:42,640
Speaker 3: We should be walking in slow motion. We should be

1082
00:59:44,080 --> 00:59:48,000
Speaker 3: you know, pouring champagne all over women and whatever whatever

1083
00:59:48,120 --> 00:59:52,720
Speaker 3: hype William's slow motion kind of life. That Yeah, like

1084
00:59:52,800 --> 00:59:53,640
Speaker 3: that experience.

1085
00:59:53,680 --> 00:59:56,920
Speaker 2: So you like this bill. For me, it was getting

1086
00:59:56,920 --> 01:00:01,560
Speaker 2: custody my son. Being able to pay twenty thousand dollars

1087
01:00:01,680 --> 01:00:06,960
Speaker 2: to get full custody of my son Josh. I was like, Yo,

1088
01:00:08,560 --> 01:00:11,919
Speaker 2: that's worth more than than any gold chain, than any

1089
01:00:11,960 --> 01:00:15,680
Speaker 2: Bentley because now I'm able to raise my son on

1090
01:00:15,840 --> 01:00:19,320
Speaker 2: my playing ground the way that I want to raise it.

1091
01:00:19,800 --> 01:00:21,680
Speaker 2: And so that was something that always bothered me because

1092
01:00:21,680 --> 01:00:25,840
Speaker 2: I was a teenage parent and honestly, I didn't know

1093
01:00:25,880 --> 01:00:28,120
Speaker 2: what parenting was. Bro Like, I was a little kid

1094
01:00:28,240 --> 01:00:32,120
Speaker 2: having a kid. So when the where's the love moment happened,

1095
01:00:32,520 --> 01:00:36,720
Speaker 2: that was when financially I was able to actually provide

1096
01:00:36,840 --> 01:00:40,280
Speaker 2: a stable home for my son. Right although I had

1097
01:00:40,440 --> 01:00:42,440
Speaker 2: help for my mom because I was still young, I

1098
01:00:42,480 --> 01:00:44,880
Speaker 2: was a twenty one to twenty two, at least I

1099
01:00:44,880 --> 01:00:47,760
Speaker 2: have some form of stability financially to be able to

1100
01:00:47,800 --> 01:00:51,000
Speaker 2: take my son away from the way he was being

1101
01:00:51,040 --> 01:00:53,040
Speaker 2: brought up, to be able to get him now a

1102
01:00:53,080 --> 01:00:56,040
Speaker 2: home the way I was brought up. And so that

1103
01:00:56,240 --> 01:00:58,880
Speaker 2: was like for me, that was a moment beyond any

1104
01:00:58,960 --> 01:01:01,840
Speaker 2: Bentley moment or or any gold chain or you know.

1105
01:01:01,880 --> 01:01:03,920
Speaker 2: And I bought a house, yeah, but it was like

1106
01:01:04,080 --> 01:01:07,040
Speaker 2: taking care of Josh was like yo, I made it.

1107
01:01:07,080 --> 01:01:08,880
Speaker 2: And it was because of that ways of love money

1108
01:01:09,080 --> 01:01:11,600
Speaker 2: that brought me this opportunity to be a dad.

1109
01:01:12,320 --> 01:01:13,720
Speaker 4: How old were you when you had Josh?

1110
01:01:13,760 --> 01:01:17,000
Speaker 2: You said you were seventeen. I actually walked. I walked

1111
01:01:17,040 --> 01:01:19,360
Speaker 2: my graduation with a son, bro Like, I was like

1112
01:01:19,960 --> 01:01:23,440
Speaker 2: only it was crazy dude, and it was like, yeah, Okay,

1113
01:01:23,520 --> 01:01:25,680
Speaker 2: this guy's not gonna make it. He's got a kid

1114
01:01:25,720 --> 01:01:28,080
Speaker 2: at seventeen. But it also it gave me the fire

1115
01:01:28,240 --> 01:01:29,960
Speaker 2: to be able to not give up on my dreams

1116
01:01:30,000 --> 01:01:32,120
Speaker 2: and my aspirations even though I was a teen parent

1117
01:01:32,320 --> 01:01:36,040
Speaker 2: and I'm not in any way form a fashion don't

1118
01:01:36,080 --> 01:01:39,480
Speaker 2: e teen parents parenting, but I am saying like it

1119
01:01:39,600 --> 01:01:42,000
Speaker 2: put a fire in my ass and it just like

1120
01:01:42,160 --> 01:01:45,640
Speaker 2: that was like a Okay, now I got to come

1121
01:01:45,720 --> 01:01:48,040
Speaker 2: to grips to be able to give my son a

1122
01:01:48,080 --> 01:01:52,000
Speaker 2: better opportunity of life because I know that that's my motivation.

1123
01:01:56,800 --> 01:01:59,880
Speaker 3: Of all those records, I would probably say that maybe

1124
01:02:00,080 --> 01:02:04,880
Speaker 3: Monkey Business was probably the hardest to create because it's

1125
01:02:05,000 --> 01:02:08,560
Speaker 3: like how do you keep the momentum up? Then that

1126
01:02:08,600 --> 01:02:11,320
Speaker 3: becomes bigger, So I don't even want to go to

1127
01:02:11,360 --> 01:02:15,040
Speaker 3: the to the E n D. But going into monkey Business,

1128
01:02:15,440 --> 01:02:16,360
Speaker 3: what was the pressure?

1129
01:02:16,440 --> 01:02:20,560
Speaker 2: Like, I mean, bro, like we uh we went in

1130
01:02:20,600 --> 01:02:24,840
Speaker 2: there and actually tried to make hits elephant wasn't trying

1131
01:02:24,840 --> 01:02:29,120
Speaker 2: to make his We're just making records like yo, what's

1132
01:02:29,160 --> 01:02:32,960
Speaker 2: popping over there? Ship? What's what's what's uh? What's Timberland? Doing,

1133
01:02:33,000 --> 01:02:35,760
Speaker 2: What's what's Pharrell doing? What's this person doing? Like it

1134
01:02:35,880 --> 01:02:39,480
Speaker 2: was all over the place being students and like how

1135
01:02:39,480 --> 01:02:43,280
Speaker 2: do we compete? And so records like Don't Lie, which

1136
01:02:43,320 --> 01:02:46,760
Speaker 2: is my least favorite record, even though it was a smash.

1137
01:02:47,160 --> 01:02:51,840
Speaker 2: I don't like performing it's just then we had Don't

1138
01:02:51,840 --> 01:02:54,480
Speaker 2: Funk with My Heart, which is cool because we studied

1139
01:02:54,480 --> 01:02:57,480
Speaker 2: Bollywood and we liked that frequency and we loved Leasa

1140
01:02:57,520 --> 01:03:00,880
Speaker 2: Lisa and Code Jam love that record. I wonder if

1141
01:03:00,880 --> 01:03:04,640
Speaker 2: I take yeah so that record and it was like, oh, okay,

1142
01:03:04,680 --> 01:03:08,800
Speaker 2: this kind of sounds like weekends from Uh from from

1143
01:03:09,000 --> 01:03:14,400
Speaker 2: Uh Bridging the Gap, which we sampled Debbie Dabb look

1144
01:03:14,400 --> 01:03:17,080
Speaker 2: got weekends because here we come, and so there was

1145
01:03:17,120 --> 01:03:22,080
Speaker 2: like a formula happening. And then we sampled dig Dale,

1146
01:03:22,400 --> 01:03:23,240
Speaker 2: Misery Loot.

1147
01:03:23,120 --> 01:03:28,360
Speaker 7: For Pump It, and then Will did my humps and

1148
01:03:28,400 --> 01:03:32,200
Speaker 7: then we finished it off with with the James Brown Joint,

1149
01:03:32,280 --> 01:03:33,360
Speaker 7: which is my favorite.

1150
01:03:33,760 --> 01:03:37,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, talk about that session. I spun the ship out

1151
01:03:37,400 --> 01:03:41,360
Speaker 3: that record when I was jealous, man, how did that happen?

1152
01:03:42,760 --> 01:03:44,240
Speaker 2: We were at the mojo.

1153
01:03:44,640 --> 01:03:46,400
Speaker 3: They don't want music, they don't want music.

1154
01:03:46,480 --> 01:03:49,720
Speaker 2: Yes, Boom that was our first Boom Boom song, and

1155
01:03:49,760 --> 01:03:54,840
Speaker 2: mister Brown, as he liked to be referred to, mister Brown.

1156
01:03:55,640 --> 01:03:58,000
Speaker 2: We met him at the Mobile Awards in London and

1157
01:03:58,000 --> 01:04:01,360
Speaker 2: we're like, mister Brown, we're working on a new record

1158
01:04:01,440 --> 01:04:05,080
Speaker 2: with huge fans. You know, b boys, we love what

1159
01:04:05,120 --> 01:04:06,960
Speaker 2: you've done with you know, your work, blah blah blah,

1160
01:04:07,200 --> 01:04:12,080
Speaker 2: giving them flowers. Well, I don't have to work with anybody,

1161
01:04:12,440 --> 01:04:15,120
Speaker 2: but something says that I need to work with the

1162
01:04:15,120 --> 01:04:18,960
Speaker 2: Black Eyed Peas yo yo.

1163
01:04:20,680 --> 01:04:28,280
Speaker 1: Also, James Brown impressions.

1164
01:04:24,640 --> 01:04:29,560
Speaker 2: It's it's it's trying, but but he says, Okay, I'm

1165
01:04:29,560 --> 01:04:33,160
Speaker 2: gonna show up to the studio. We're recording at uh

1166
01:04:33,640 --> 01:04:39,040
Speaker 2: Metropolis in London, Paramount No Metropolis Studios. He comes, he

1167
01:04:39,160 --> 01:04:42,160
Speaker 2: has his whole entourage. Bro, when I tell you this

1168
01:04:42,240 --> 01:04:45,200
Speaker 2: dude is a mega superstar. He walked in with the

1169
01:04:45,320 --> 01:04:49,640
Speaker 2: lady that combs his hair. So he's sitting down Brown.

1170
01:04:49,800 --> 01:04:53,640
Speaker 2: They bring out a mirror. The lady sits down, combs

1171
01:04:53,680 --> 01:04:59,400
Speaker 2: his hair, and then he's like, okay, I'm ready. I

1172
01:04:59,600 --> 01:05:03,840
Speaker 2: don't ready. So we're like okay, cool. So so so

1173
01:05:03,920 --> 01:05:06,640
Speaker 2: our band. They go in there, they start doing their thing.

1174
01:05:07,000 --> 01:05:09,960
Speaker 2: He's like no, no, no, everybody out. He brings his horn

1175
01:05:09,960 --> 01:05:13,960
Speaker 2: players so his horn players are leading the dance. That's

1176
01:05:14,040 --> 01:05:17,960
Speaker 2: that his horn players are leading the dance. We're like, oh, yo,

1177
01:05:18,200 --> 01:05:21,320
Speaker 2: just let him do his thing. So like, what kind

1178
01:05:21,360 --> 01:05:24,000
Speaker 2: of style can we bring to what James Brown's bringing

1179
01:05:24,040 --> 01:05:27,960
Speaker 2: mister Brown's bringing? What about like that Greg nice and

1180
01:05:28,000 --> 01:05:31,080
Speaker 2: that that nice smooth joint Yo Disney Gless. He plays

1181
01:05:31,080 --> 01:05:35,320
Speaker 2: the sad like Max. So that's that's the frequency that

1182
01:05:35,360 --> 01:05:37,760
Speaker 2: we tapped into for the rap part that Will is

1183
01:05:37,800 --> 01:05:42,880
Speaker 2: doing with James Brown. And I just remember, like after

1184
01:05:42,920 --> 01:05:46,760
Speaker 2: the session were breaking bread. He's sitting at the table

1185
01:05:46,800 --> 01:05:48,560
Speaker 2: and he's talking to us and somebody comes over and

1186
01:05:48,600 --> 01:05:52,760
Speaker 2: starts cutting his food. Like his meat is his steak.

1187
01:05:53,320 --> 01:05:55,160
Speaker 2: He has someone to cut his steak, he has someone

1188
01:05:55,200 --> 01:05:57,560
Speaker 2: to brush his hair, and then he goes like this,

1189
01:05:59,720 --> 01:06:01,280
Speaker 2: so he comes and wipes his mouth.

1190
01:06:06,840 --> 01:06:14,760
Speaker 3: I was like, wait a minute, hey, Steve, that's like

1191
01:06:14,760 --> 01:06:17,000
Speaker 3: one of my favorite tracks of me too.

1192
01:06:17,320 --> 01:06:20,240
Speaker 2: Thank you. I mean that record just came so natural.

1193
01:06:20,360 --> 01:06:23,200
Speaker 2: And the fact that we got tipped to start the song,

1194
01:06:23,960 --> 01:06:26,120
Speaker 2: you know, it's he said something really special when we

1195
01:06:26,120 --> 01:06:28,320
Speaker 2: were on the road. It was with him, Dave Chappelle.

1196
01:06:28,360 --> 01:06:30,560
Speaker 2: He said, well, black Eyed Peas, we want you guys

1197
01:06:30,600 --> 01:06:33,320
Speaker 2: to carry the baton of what we started and take

1198
01:06:33,360 --> 01:06:35,560
Speaker 2: it international and all the stuff that you guys are

1199
01:06:35,600 --> 01:06:38,960
Speaker 2: doing international, you guys are representing the essence of the

1200
01:06:39,040 --> 01:06:41,720
Speaker 2: native tongue. So that was very important. That was around

1201
01:06:41,760 --> 01:06:46,480
Speaker 2: that time, the monkey Business era. But during that time

1202
01:06:46,520 --> 01:06:50,040
Speaker 2: we also got to tour with amazing rock groups. Can

1203
01:06:50,080 --> 01:06:51,840
Speaker 2: I just tell you about the rocky.

1204
01:06:52,440 --> 01:06:54,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, I want to know what tour life was like

1205
01:06:54,320 --> 01:06:55,480
Speaker 3: at this point in your life.

1206
01:06:56,080 --> 01:07:03,080
Speaker 2: I mean, we're touring with with with I mean seven Dust, uh,

1207
01:07:04,280 --> 01:07:09,600
Speaker 2: no doubt, when Stefani lit Blink one eighty two, it

1208
01:07:09,640 --> 01:07:12,439
Speaker 2: was just Dope Metallica. We were just toying with all

1209
01:07:12,480 --> 01:07:16,680
Speaker 2: these amazing rock groups because those are the type of

1210
01:07:16,680 --> 01:07:19,320
Speaker 2: festivals we were doing, and we're the only hip hop

1211
01:07:19,360 --> 01:07:22,640
Speaker 2: group part of that that journey. So we learned how

1212
01:07:22,680 --> 01:07:25,160
Speaker 2: to perform in front of the audiences that weren't necessarily

1213
01:07:25,240 --> 01:07:29,480
Speaker 2: hip hop audiences, and so our pellet kind of expanded,

1214
01:07:29,520 --> 01:07:31,600
Speaker 2: and that's why we had, you know, we worked with

1215
01:07:31,640 --> 01:07:34,640
Speaker 2: Travis Barker, and we worked with popa Roach and all

1216
01:07:34,640 --> 01:07:37,920
Speaker 2: these these rock groups so that we could learn how

1217
01:07:37,960 --> 01:07:40,200
Speaker 2: to bring that frequency as well and just be students

1218
01:07:40,200 --> 01:07:43,160
Speaker 2: of the game and learn how to perform in front

1219
01:07:43,160 --> 01:07:46,000
Speaker 2: of these audiences that you know, you better be just

1220
01:07:46,200 --> 01:07:49,520
Speaker 2: doing something other than just playing instruments or just rapping,

1221
01:07:49,760 --> 01:07:52,240
Speaker 2: because they're gonna they're gonna tell you, they're gonna throw

1222
01:07:52,240 --> 01:07:54,280
Speaker 2: stuff at you, they're gonna flip you off. So we

1223
01:07:54,320 --> 01:07:56,560
Speaker 2: were learning how stage died, we're learning how to do

1224
01:07:56,680 --> 01:07:59,720
Speaker 2: mosh pits all that stuff around Europe and and and

1225
01:08:00,040 --> 01:08:03,000
Speaker 2: feeing us that we can bring that same rock energy

1226
01:08:03,080 --> 01:08:05,360
Speaker 2: with with the Black Eyed Peas essence.

1227
01:08:06,040 --> 01:08:08,720
Speaker 3: Oh, this is a question I always wanted to know. Okay,

1228
01:08:08,800 --> 01:08:12,880
Speaker 3: So for the longest I'll say that basically, before the

1229
01:08:12,880 --> 01:08:16,680
Speaker 3: Internet kind of colonized the world and had us all

1230
01:08:16,720 --> 01:08:20,280
Speaker 3: thinking like at the same time, whereas before you go

1231
01:08:20,360 --> 01:08:24,320
Speaker 3: to different territories and this section of town didn't get

1232
01:08:24,640 --> 01:08:27,400
Speaker 3: what New York has or that sort of thing. But

1233
01:08:27,479 --> 01:08:32,120
Speaker 3: there was a moment where I remember, uh, when you

1234
01:08:32,160 --> 01:08:36,320
Speaker 3: guys first came out. Uh, you guys went to Australia

1235
01:08:37,439 --> 01:08:39,760
Speaker 3: and you did Big Day out right.

1236
01:08:40,360 --> 01:08:41,160
Speaker 2: Yes, loved it.

1237
01:08:41,520 --> 01:08:45,920
Speaker 3: And I remember, uh Jurassic five telling me, you know,

1238
01:08:46,680 --> 01:08:49,400
Speaker 3: we we've yet to go to Australia. They're like, yo, dog,

1239
01:08:49,439 --> 01:08:51,559
Speaker 3: you got to come to Australia. Man, Like we play

1240
01:08:51,640 --> 01:08:55,280
Speaker 3: stadiums over there, and I was like Jurassic five playing

1241
01:08:55,280 --> 01:09:00,160
Speaker 3: the stadium. It's like no, dog, Like you don't get it.

1242
01:09:00,720 --> 01:09:04,200
Speaker 3: Like the artists that are club artists in the United

1243
01:09:04,200 --> 01:09:08,840
Speaker 3: States when they go to Australia, they're like mega And

1244
01:09:09,040 --> 01:09:11,960
Speaker 3: he was like, yeah, man, Ben Harper plays stadiums and

1245
01:09:12,040 --> 01:09:14,720
Speaker 3: it was like yoyo, Black Eyed Peas can set out

1246
01:09:14,720 --> 01:09:17,639
Speaker 3: a stadium. I was like black the Black Eyed Peas

1247
01:09:17,760 --> 01:09:20,240
Speaker 3: just opened for me last week to sound the stadium.

1248
01:09:21,120 --> 01:09:24,800
Speaker 3: I literally I was like my mind was blown. But

1249
01:09:24,960 --> 01:09:29,639
Speaker 3: for you, what was the feeling to get and and yes,

1250
01:09:30,040 --> 01:09:34,080
Speaker 3: to put in context, like Australia is just different. You know,

1251
01:09:34,479 --> 01:09:37,920
Speaker 3: they're not really controlled by like corporate radio the way

1252
01:09:37,960 --> 01:09:41,280
Speaker 3: that it is over here with clear channel and you

1253
01:09:41,320 --> 01:09:44,320
Speaker 3: know that sort of thing where playlists are determined, like

1254
01:09:44,560 --> 01:09:47,360
Speaker 3: still DJ's played whole music over there, like a person

1255
01:09:47,439 --> 01:09:51,799
Speaker 3: like Eric Abadu can still find space on pop radio

1256
01:09:52,560 --> 01:09:55,800
Speaker 3: along with whoever is like Hitten and pop and that

1257
01:09:55,880 --> 01:09:57,840
Speaker 3: sort of thing. Like they've always been balanced that way.

1258
01:09:57,920 --> 01:10:00,479
Speaker 3: So as a result, a lot of the music that

1259
01:10:00,520 --> 01:10:02,960
Speaker 3: we like, that's thee in underground music gets the same

1260
01:10:03,080 --> 01:10:08,160
Speaker 3: platform that something mainstream is. But for you, like what

1261
01:10:08,280 --> 01:10:14,200
Speaker 3: was the feeling in breaking breaking that ceiling and finally,

1262
01:10:15,800 --> 01:10:17,559
Speaker 3: you know, getting to a point where I'm certain that

1263
01:10:17,880 --> 01:10:21,200
Speaker 3: you know where Michael Jackson's like, hey, I'm a big

1264
01:10:21,200 --> 01:10:23,320
Speaker 3: fan of you guys, and like what was that feeling?

1265
01:10:23,360 --> 01:10:25,080
Speaker 3: Like like who are the people that you're meeting and

1266
01:10:25,160 --> 01:10:26,040
Speaker 3: those sort of things.

1267
01:10:26,800 --> 01:10:29,960
Speaker 2: So, so being able to travel to Australia, you're seeing

1268
01:10:30,040 --> 01:10:34,600
Speaker 2: all these actors and actresses and kind of like the

1269
01:10:34,600 --> 01:10:38,840
Speaker 2: the experience of the Oscars world. That's the transition of

1270
01:10:38,880 --> 01:10:43,280
Speaker 2: going from like the music world to now meeting actors, actresses, directors.

1271
01:10:43,960 --> 01:10:48,559
Speaker 2: That's actually where we met James Cameron. And so you're

1272
01:10:48,600 --> 01:10:52,920
Speaker 2: meeting all these people and you're getting this after effect

1273
01:10:52,960 --> 01:10:55,639
Speaker 2: of like yo, I didn't know they liked the music, right,

1274
01:10:55,720 --> 01:11:00,000
Speaker 2: We're just we're just kind of like nomads, just traveling

1275
01:11:00,040 --> 01:11:03,120
Speaker 2: and you don't feel the effects of the impact that

1276
01:11:03,200 --> 01:11:05,200
Speaker 2: you're having because you're just doing You're just being you

1277
01:11:05,320 --> 01:11:08,400
Speaker 2: and you're just creating music. So we were we were

1278
01:11:08,439 --> 01:11:12,000
Speaker 2: just embracing the beauty that was Australia and is Australia

1279
01:11:12,080 --> 01:11:16,479
Speaker 2: because they supported us before any before anyone actually gave

1280
01:11:16,560 --> 01:11:19,240
Speaker 2: us that then Flowers, it was Australia and New Zealand.

1281
01:11:19,320 --> 01:11:23,320
Speaker 2: Let me show you something. Yes, this is my first

1282
01:11:23,320 --> 01:11:27,679
Speaker 2: plaque bridging back to New Zealand. This is the first

1283
01:11:27,840 --> 01:11:33,240
Speaker 2: plaque that actually got gold. Wow. So that being said,

1284
01:11:33,240 --> 01:11:35,400
Speaker 2: in New Zealand and Australia, they had love for us

1285
01:11:35,439 --> 01:11:39,839
Speaker 2: before any any domestics, so especially on our first earlier

1286
01:11:39,920 --> 01:11:43,000
Speaker 2: work with Behind the Front of Bridge the Gap, so

1287
01:11:43,960 --> 01:11:46,600
Speaker 2: you know, it just it just affirmed everything that we

1288
01:11:46,680 --> 01:11:49,000
Speaker 2: had been doing. We had been working towards being able

1289
01:11:49,160 --> 01:11:52,200
Speaker 2: to tour the world and be international and just bring

1290
01:11:52,200 --> 01:11:57,640
Speaker 2: that energy. And I would say Australia was probably the

1291
01:11:57,720 --> 01:12:00,400
Speaker 2: place where we spent most time because we did the

1292
01:12:00,439 --> 01:12:03,479
Speaker 2: big day out for months right and every year we

1293
01:12:03,520 --> 01:12:05,840
Speaker 2: did it up until that point when they stopped doing it.

1294
01:12:06,120 --> 01:12:12,320
Speaker 3: Okay, So I have a theory about mega songs. Every

1295
01:12:12,360 --> 01:12:15,120
Speaker 3: mega song that I've ever known from Louis Louis to

1296
01:12:15,520 --> 01:12:21,599
Speaker 3: shout to Tequila, like mega song songs that will never die.

1297
01:12:22,760 --> 01:12:25,240
Speaker 3: The story always starts the same where it's like we

1298
01:12:25,280 --> 01:12:27,519
Speaker 3: created that in like twenty minutes, Like we didn't really

1299
01:12:27,560 --> 01:12:33,479
Speaker 3: put calculated thought in it. You're co creator of a

1300
01:12:33,640 --> 01:12:38,960
Speaker 3: mega song like long after Life Ends or whatever. Like

1301
01:12:39,240 --> 01:12:42,479
Speaker 3: I seriously doubt that I got a feeling will ever

1302
01:12:43,479 --> 01:12:47,840
Speaker 3: go away or not be played at any function, be

1303
01:12:47,920 --> 01:12:53,760
Speaker 3: it wedding, celebration, barbarments. Yeah, the amount of times I've

1304
01:12:53,760 --> 01:12:56,800
Speaker 3: had to spend it as a DJ. What was the

1305
01:12:56,800 --> 01:12:58,120
Speaker 3: process in making that song?

1306
01:12:59,240 --> 01:13:03,639
Speaker 2: I just remember we'll talking about what's that song we're building,

1307
01:13:03,680 --> 01:13:08,080
Speaker 2: what's that song that plays at every freaking sporting events, wedding,

1308
01:13:08,720 --> 01:13:11,720
Speaker 2: the earth Winding Fire song, And I'm like, September, Yeah,

1309
01:13:11,760 --> 01:13:14,400
Speaker 2: we need something like that in that space where it's

1310
01:13:14,439 --> 01:13:18,680
Speaker 2: like everywhere, it's playing everywhere. Yo. We need something like say,

1311
01:13:18,800 --> 01:13:23,320
Speaker 2: celebrate good time, come on, yeah, we do. We need

1312
01:13:24,320 --> 01:13:30,160
Speaker 2: we need something that's like gonna live sporting events, colleges. Yo,

1313
01:13:30,240 --> 01:13:34,000
Speaker 2: We're gonna make a college anthem. Yo. College. Oh shit,

1314
01:13:34,080 --> 01:13:36,800
Speaker 2: let's make a college anthem. And it's the first time

1315
01:13:37,400 --> 01:13:39,920
Speaker 2: that we had ever created a song where all of

1316
01:13:40,000 --> 01:13:43,040
Speaker 2: us are singing at the same time. We had never

1317
01:13:43,080 --> 01:13:46,400
Speaker 2: done before because every single song, like you said earlier, Amir,

1318
01:13:46,640 --> 01:13:49,240
Speaker 2: we have each one has a verse or you know,

1319
01:13:49,560 --> 01:13:52,160
Speaker 2: you have like a bridge or something. But in this song,

1320
01:13:52,640 --> 01:13:55,719
Speaker 2: we strategically said, we want the energy of this song

1321
01:13:55,840 --> 01:14:02,000
Speaker 2: to feel like one right. So I remember David Gheta

1322
01:14:02,080 --> 01:14:05,760
Speaker 2: sent the track to Will he's like, oh, I have

1323
01:14:05,800 --> 01:14:09,920
Speaker 2: this remix for the Love is Gone. Right now that

1324
01:14:10,040 --> 01:14:12,920
Speaker 2: the love is gone, remember that song? So this is

1325
01:14:12,960 --> 01:14:16,519
Speaker 2: the remix track to that song.

1326
01:14:16,840 --> 01:14:17,960
Speaker 3: Okay, he didn't use it.

1327
01:14:18,320 --> 01:14:20,880
Speaker 2: Oh really, yeah, he didn't use it. He's like, you

1328
01:14:20,960 --> 01:14:24,679
Speaker 2: guys can use it. So we used that track and

1329
01:14:25,000 --> 01:14:29,479
Speaker 2: Will came up with that chorus, and then we all

1330
01:14:29,680 --> 01:14:32,000
Speaker 2: came to the studio and we started jumping around. Like

1331
01:14:32,040 --> 01:14:34,280
Speaker 2: I said, when we started jumping around, that's when you

1332
01:14:34,320 --> 01:14:38,360
Speaker 2: know it's something. The first time we performed it, it

1333
01:14:38,479 --> 01:14:42,120
Speaker 2: was a disaster. Who performed at the Tangle It was horrible.

1334
01:14:42,320 --> 01:14:42,920
Speaker 3: Where was it?

1335
01:14:43,000 --> 01:14:49,200
Speaker 2: Wango Tangle Kiss Fama Ryan Seacrest, It was like I

1336
01:14:49,240 --> 01:14:52,840
Speaker 2: want to say it was. It was in in Anaheim.

1337
01:14:53,520 --> 01:14:58,760
Speaker 2: We performed it and people are likeive, no, We're like discouraged.

1338
01:14:59,439 --> 01:14:59,479
Speaker 3: No.

1339
01:14:59,640 --> 01:15:02,160
Speaker 2: It's like, oh, this might not be the one. Maybe

1340
01:15:02,200 --> 01:15:06,160
Speaker 2: it's this other Boom Boom Pal song. There was a

1341
01:15:06,280 --> 01:15:09,920
Speaker 2: knockout punch Boomoom Pal came first, right right, That was

1342
01:15:09,920 --> 01:15:14,760
Speaker 2: at number one for like twelve weeks. Yeah, so we're like, yo,

1343
01:15:14,800 --> 01:15:18,920
Speaker 2: how do we outdo Boom Boom Pow? Because that was like, bro,

1344
01:15:19,000 --> 01:15:22,160
Speaker 2: we already we're already at number one twelve weeks and

1345
01:15:22,200 --> 01:15:24,200
Speaker 2: then we came with it. I got a filling and

1346
01:15:24,240 --> 01:15:26,160
Speaker 2: then it just knocked it out and it just stayed

1347
01:15:26,160 --> 01:15:29,120
Speaker 2: on the charts. And then we're doing all the award shows,

1348
01:15:29,200 --> 01:15:33,680
Speaker 2: all the the uh you know, all the sporting events.

1349
01:15:33,880 --> 01:15:36,439
Speaker 2: We did the Super Bowl, we did the World Cup.

1350
01:15:36,680 --> 01:15:41,680
Speaker 2: That song is blowing up everywhere. And then it just

1351
01:15:42,080 --> 01:15:44,240
Speaker 2: let us know that something that we thought was gonna

1352
01:15:44,240 --> 01:15:48,439
Speaker 2: be a college anthem became an anthem that the national Yeah,

1353
01:15:48,439 --> 01:15:51,920
Speaker 2: it's an anthem forever. So you know, No, we didn't

1354
01:15:51,960 --> 01:15:54,599
Speaker 2: do it in twenty seconds or twenty minutes or five minutes.

1355
01:15:54,680 --> 01:15:57,920
Speaker 2: It was done. It was It was a nice process. Yes,

1356
01:15:58,000 --> 01:16:01,040
Speaker 2: it was quick, but the idea that we wanted to

1357
01:16:01,080 --> 01:16:03,679
Speaker 2: present to the world was something that was very unison

1358
01:16:03,760 --> 01:16:08,360
Speaker 2: and very connected as one. And that's why that representation

1359
01:16:08,479 --> 01:16:12,040
Speaker 2: of us doing the lyrics together is a synonymous for

1360
01:16:12,120 --> 01:16:14,400
Speaker 2: that song, how it brings everyone together.

1361
01:16:18,880 --> 01:16:22,640
Speaker 3: When you're having this level of success. And again, like

1362
01:16:23,200 --> 01:16:27,040
Speaker 3: the question was like, can you guys, I'll do Elephunk okay,

1363
01:16:27,200 --> 01:16:30,160
Speaker 3: can you guys, I'll do monkey business? Okay? Can you

1364
01:16:30,320 --> 01:16:35,920
Speaker 3: I'll do the end? At any point? And you know,

1365
01:16:35,960 --> 01:16:38,080
Speaker 3: I know that you went through this in your memoir,

1366
01:16:38,600 --> 01:16:44,479
Speaker 3: But what was the point where like this wasn't fun anymore?

1367
01:16:45,439 --> 01:16:48,960
Speaker 3: Or it has it ever been a time where it's

1368
01:16:49,040 --> 01:16:52,080
Speaker 3: just like, was there ever a be careful for what

1369
01:16:52,160 --> 01:16:54,120
Speaker 3: you ask or wish for a moment for you?

1370
01:16:54,439 --> 01:16:59,400
Speaker 2: Right? For me? Will an App. I'm only speaking for

1371
01:16:59,520 --> 01:17:02,160
Speaker 2: us because you know, I can't say anything of the

1372
01:17:02,520 --> 01:17:04,960
Speaker 2: ladies that journeyed with us because maybe they have the

1373
01:17:04,960 --> 01:17:09,559
Speaker 2: same experience. But I love being on that stage with

1374
01:17:09,600 --> 01:17:13,760
Speaker 2: my brothers, bro, Like that's like our livelihood. When we're

1375
01:17:13,760 --> 01:17:16,679
Speaker 2: on stage. We're seventeen year old kids that just love

1376
01:17:17,560 --> 01:17:21,280
Speaker 2: performing and love you know, creating music and performing for

1377
01:17:21,320 --> 01:17:25,240
Speaker 2: the world. So there's never a moment, there's never a

1378
01:17:25,280 --> 01:17:27,240
Speaker 2: moment other than that moment when we took a break.

1379
01:17:27,280 --> 01:17:32,080
Speaker 2: That shit was bullshit, bro, That's like suicide. That eight

1380
01:17:32,160 --> 01:17:36,400
Speaker 2: year break. That a year break from twenty eleven to

1381
01:17:36,600 --> 01:17:39,599
Speaker 2: twenty nineteen when we put out Reepmore with j Balbin,

1382
01:17:39,640 --> 01:17:43,760
Speaker 2: when Sylvia Rone signed us from Interscope to Sony, and

1383
01:17:43,800 --> 01:17:47,440
Speaker 2: then we had success with Sylvia Ron and reinvented ourselves

1384
01:17:47,479 --> 01:17:50,960
Speaker 2: as a trio, which that's how we started. But that

1385
01:17:51,000 --> 01:17:54,400
Speaker 2: time period of being away for eight years, yes, I

1386
01:17:54,400 --> 01:17:58,000
Speaker 2: got cancer in twenty fourteen. But man, we were very

1387
01:17:58,080 --> 01:18:02,960
Speaker 2: lucky to come out of that, that your hiatus, because

1388
01:18:03,320 --> 01:18:06,320
Speaker 2: usually groups are gone for eight years. They're gone. There's

1389
01:18:06,320 --> 01:18:08,840
Speaker 2: no way you could come back. Do we come back

1390
01:18:08,960 --> 01:18:10,360
Speaker 2: at a filling level? No?

1391
01:18:10,880 --> 01:18:14,320
Speaker 3: How has that conversation happened? Are you guys actively communicating

1392
01:18:14,360 --> 01:18:17,160
Speaker 3: with each other and saying like, hey, need a break,

1393
01:18:17,320 --> 01:18:21,880
Speaker 3: need to have some me time, Well reconvene.

1394
01:18:23,160 --> 01:18:26,200
Speaker 2: No, it was it was. It wasn't a choice that

1395
01:18:26,280 --> 01:18:28,680
Speaker 2: me and Will and Apple had the I'm just being

1396
01:18:28,720 --> 01:18:32,040
Speaker 2: honest with you, guys, that's the reality. We would have

1397
01:18:32,120 --> 01:18:34,880
Speaker 2: kept going. We're at the height of our career. Why stop?

1398
01:18:35,320 --> 01:18:38,720
Speaker 2: But I get it, you know, not all of us

1399
01:18:38,960 --> 01:18:42,680
Speaker 2: wanted to continue. And so that being said, when it

1400
01:18:42,720 --> 01:18:45,479
Speaker 2: came back to coming back to wanting to do music again,

1401
01:18:46,040 --> 01:18:49,240
Speaker 2: this is after I battled cancer. I reached out to Will,

1402
01:18:49,600 --> 01:18:51,840
Speaker 2: I reached out to Apple, I reached out to Ferg.

1403
01:18:52,080 --> 01:18:54,080
Speaker 2: I said, yo, I'm ready. I need I need this

1404
01:18:54,320 --> 01:18:58,360
Speaker 2: to red like I need I need my healing performing

1405
01:18:58,600 --> 01:19:01,080
Speaker 2: Black Eyed Peas. We need to do it again. Will

1406
01:19:01,120 --> 01:19:06,439
Speaker 2: and Apple were like, let's go. And that's what it is. Me,

1407
01:19:06,560 --> 01:19:08,720
Speaker 2: Will and Apple are going. And that's how it's going

1408
01:19:08,800 --> 01:19:11,280
Speaker 2: to be. And fortunately at that time Apple the app

1409
01:19:11,800 --> 01:19:15,720
Speaker 2: met a singer from the Philippines named Ja Ray soul Right,

1410
01:19:15,760 --> 01:19:20,240
Speaker 2: and she was a young artist that inspired him to

1411
01:19:20,320 --> 01:19:22,599
Speaker 2: be able to bring her to the US and give

1412
01:19:22,600 --> 01:19:25,559
Speaker 2: her an opportunity to be able to to you know,

1413
01:19:25,680 --> 01:19:28,519
Speaker 2: to journey with the Black Eyed Peas and just be

1414
01:19:28,600 --> 01:19:31,040
Speaker 2: part of this amazing new I guess you can save

1415
01:19:31,080 --> 01:19:33,920
Speaker 2: this new lease on life because, like I said, we

1416
01:19:33,960 --> 01:19:37,800
Speaker 2: were on Interscope and then we got dropped, and then

1417
01:19:37,880 --> 01:19:39,400
Speaker 2: we got picked up by Silvia Rohan.

1418
01:19:39,800 --> 01:19:42,200
Speaker 3: Explain to me the process of getting dropped by Interscope

1419
01:19:42,240 --> 01:19:44,880
Speaker 3: when you're literally one of their biggest money makers.

1420
01:19:45,320 --> 01:19:48,759
Speaker 2: Well, Jimmy was gone, bro, Like Jimmy was now beats World.

1421
01:19:48,840 --> 01:19:50,680
Speaker 2: He's like, I don't have anything to do with So

1422
01:19:50,720 --> 01:19:55,439
Speaker 2: who took over? John Janet and Steve Berman Berman?

1423
01:19:56,000 --> 01:20:02,080
Speaker 3: Oh damn, Okay, I believe Burman is the cat if

1424
01:20:02,120 --> 01:20:06,599
Speaker 3: you remember the Dre Day video, Yeah, when he's playing

1425
01:20:06,600 --> 01:20:09,280
Speaker 3: the role with Jerry Heller. I didn't realize, like, wow,

1426
01:20:09,320 --> 01:20:11,200
Speaker 3: Berman took over in Scope. Okay.

1427
01:20:11,280 --> 01:20:13,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, So we put out Master of the Sun and

1428
01:20:13,520 --> 01:20:17,000
Speaker 2: they're like, this ain't it. This is not what we

1429
01:20:17,040 --> 01:20:20,760
Speaker 2: want from Black Eyed Peas and so the album was

1430
01:20:20,800 --> 01:20:25,640
Speaker 2: great but not today. So in their eyes it was

1431
01:20:25,680 --> 01:20:29,280
Speaker 2: a failure. It wasn't what they expected. And so they're like,

1432
01:20:29,320 --> 01:20:31,639
Speaker 2: you know what, we're going to part ways. I think

1433
01:20:31,680 --> 01:20:34,559
Speaker 2: we've exhausted all the energy the years. Thank you for

1434
01:20:34,600 --> 01:20:38,599
Speaker 2: all your contribution, but we're not going to renew the contract.

1435
01:20:38,840 --> 01:20:41,280
Speaker 2: So me, Will and Apple were like, yo, what what

1436
01:20:41,320 --> 01:20:43,799
Speaker 2: are we going to do? And like Will always does,

1437
01:20:44,400 --> 01:20:48,040
Speaker 2: Will's like, don't worry about it, guys, We're going to

1438
01:20:48,120 --> 01:20:51,320
Speaker 2: figure it out. So I trust him since I was seventeen,

1439
01:20:51,640 --> 01:20:55,000
Speaker 2: he's always been the don't worry about it, guys. We're

1440
01:20:55,000 --> 01:20:59,240
Speaker 2: going to figure it out. And that energy was like, yeah,

1441
01:20:59,280 --> 01:21:01,080
Speaker 2: we are going to figure it out. It's all good.

1442
01:21:01,200 --> 01:21:05,200
Speaker 2: We got songs, we got you know, relationships. So we

1443
01:21:05,240 --> 01:21:07,559
Speaker 2: had this song called Retmo that we recorded with Jay

1444
01:21:07,600 --> 01:21:11,719
Speaker 2: Bowin right, So I remember Zeke from from Sony comes

1445
01:21:11,760 --> 01:21:14,960
Speaker 2: to the studio and he hears it and he's like, yo,

1446
01:21:15,040 --> 01:21:18,719
Speaker 2: I'm working on this this soundtrack. Would love this song

1447
01:21:18,800 --> 01:21:22,960
Speaker 2: to be part of the soundtrack, and so Will was like, yeah,

1448
01:21:22,960 --> 01:21:24,800
Speaker 2: but we want this for us, like we want this

1449
01:21:24,840 --> 01:21:27,080
Speaker 2: to be a Black Eyed Pea joint off of our

1450
01:21:27,120 --> 01:21:30,040
Speaker 2: new project. He's like, well, what label are you on.

1451
01:21:30,080 --> 01:21:32,280
Speaker 2: He's like, We're not on the label. So he leaves

1452
01:21:32,320 --> 01:21:35,920
Speaker 2: the studio called Sylvia Rome. Sylvie Roon shows up to

1453
01:21:35,960 --> 01:21:40,080
Speaker 2: the studio. Will plays the record for her and she's like, great,

1454
01:21:40,160 --> 01:21:42,679
Speaker 2: I love this record. Let's put it on the Bad

1455
01:21:42,720 --> 01:21:47,040
Speaker 2: Boys three soundtrack with Martin Lawrence and Will Smith before

1456
01:21:47,080 --> 01:21:52,160
Speaker 2: the slap and so he does that. Zeke is like, Yo,

1457
01:21:52,240 --> 01:21:54,160
Speaker 2: this is this is the future of Black Eyed Peas,

1458
01:21:54,200 --> 01:21:57,559
Speaker 2: this whole Latin afrobeat fusion whatever you guys are doing

1459
01:21:57,680 --> 01:22:00,760
Speaker 2: this with this frequency. It's international and it's popping right now.

1460
01:22:01,800 --> 01:22:05,200
Speaker 2: We're gonna sign black Eyed Peace soon to epic. So

1461
01:22:05,240 --> 01:22:09,840
Speaker 2: we get signed. We we create this album, which was Translation,

1462
01:22:09,960 --> 01:22:12,160
Speaker 2: which we put out during the pandemic. We still put

1463
01:22:12,160 --> 01:22:14,040
Speaker 2: out a record. We had songs like bro Like Me

1464
01:22:14,080 --> 01:22:19,560
Speaker 2: with Shaquita, We had Mamasita Withosuno via the Loco with

1465
01:22:19,680 --> 01:22:23,320
Speaker 2: Nikki Jam and Tiga. So all these records just represented

1466
01:22:23,360 --> 01:22:25,840
Speaker 2: where we were at in that state of our career

1467
01:22:26,040 --> 01:22:29,599
Speaker 2: and how we were inspired by these Latin affrobeat rhythms

1468
01:22:29,640 --> 01:22:32,600
Speaker 2: that were happening around the world, and so that was

1469
01:22:32,720 --> 01:22:35,160
Speaker 2: kind of our nod to that. And then We created

1470
01:22:35,240 --> 01:22:38,920
Speaker 2: another record which we put out called Elevation, and that

1471
01:22:38,960 --> 01:22:42,479
Speaker 2: one featured Don't You Worry with Shaquita and David Ghetta,

1472
01:22:42,640 --> 01:22:44,799
Speaker 2: and then we did a record with Anita from Brazil

1473
01:22:44,880 --> 01:22:47,360
Speaker 2: and Alalfa and the next record we're dropping is with

1474
01:22:47,720 --> 01:22:48,400
Speaker 2: Daddy Yankee.

1475
01:22:49,000 --> 01:22:52,200
Speaker 3: After having done it all, like, what is what is

1476
01:22:52,280 --> 01:22:55,840
Speaker 3: left for you as far as like in terms of

1477
01:22:55,880 --> 01:22:57,920
Speaker 3: what you would like to achieve with the group.

1478
01:22:58,840 --> 01:23:03,680
Speaker 2: With the group Docus series, be able to make the

1479
01:23:03,840 --> 01:23:07,280
Speaker 2: Black Eyed Peas movie, whatever that means, do it in

1480
01:23:07,320 --> 01:23:10,000
Speaker 2: a way where it's like stranger things fantasy, kind.

1481
01:23:09,840 --> 01:23:12,120
Speaker 3: Of to be a scripted series like that. I don't

1482
01:23:12,120 --> 01:23:13,920
Speaker 3: think it's a movie, it's a it's a series.

1483
01:23:14,120 --> 01:23:17,280
Speaker 2: Like the Beatles did a docu series, like the Beatles

1484
01:23:17,280 --> 01:23:21,400
Speaker 2: did a Yellow Submarine, where it's kind of like mystic magical,

1485
01:23:23,280 --> 01:23:27,559
Speaker 2: you know, something like that, whereas you can add fantasy

1486
01:23:27,640 --> 01:23:30,080
Speaker 2: because we're big sci fi guys. We love stranger things

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01:23:30,080 --> 01:23:33,679
Speaker 2: and just that whole creativity of creating stuff that's not

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01:23:33,880 --> 01:23:36,360
Speaker 2: just a typical like oh, these are hip hop kids,

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01:23:36,360 --> 01:23:38,400
Speaker 2: and then they became popular around the world. It's like,

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01:23:38,520 --> 01:23:41,479
Speaker 2: now we want to tell all these amazing stories like

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01:23:41,760 --> 01:23:46,200
Speaker 2: cancer survivor and tech guy. He's the he calls himself

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01:23:46,200 --> 01:23:48,080
Speaker 2: the Black iron Man because he's all about tech. And

1493
01:23:48,120 --> 01:23:50,320
Speaker 2: then you got this kid from the Philippines who was

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01:23:50,320 --> 01:23:53,080
Speaker 2: a farmer that didn't speak English and came to America.

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01:23:53,439 --> 01:23:55,639
Speaker 2: First person he met was where I am. So all

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01:23:55,680 --> 01:23:58,840
Speaker 2: these crazy stories. It's a little bit sensation wise, and

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01:23:58,880 --> 01:24:02,280
Speaker 2: it's it's entertaining and and and still appealing to the eye.

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01:24:03,760 --> 01:24:10,200
Speaker 3: I see, I see, well, man, dude, this is definitely

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01:24:10,840 --> 01:24:12,519
Speaker 3: worth the wait, and for you know, this is like

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01:24:12,560 --> 01:24:14,559
Speaker 3: our first in depth conversation with each other.

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01:24:14,600 --> 01:24:14,760
Speaker 1: Man.

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01:24:14,800 --> 01:24:16,880
Speaker 3: So I'm really glad that we got this. Wait, Steve,

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01:24:16,920 --> 01:24:17,760
Speaker 3: you're about to say something.

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01:24:18,320 --> 01:24:20,720
Speaker 6: No, I was about to come wipe wipe something off

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01:24:20,760 --> 01:24:21,120
Speaker 6: your mouth.

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01:24:24,840 --> 01:24:31,439
Speaker 2: That's there. I just want to do a little, a

1507
01:24:31,439 --> 01:24:34,880
Speaker 2: little promo real quick on something that me. So I

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01:24:34,920 --> 01:24:37,920
Speaker 2: invested in this company called a Kid's Book, about which

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01:24:38,439 --> 01:24:41,439
Speaker 2: you already I sent it to you. The first book

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01:24:41,479 --> 01:24:43,760
Speaker 2: that I wrote is called the Kid's Book about Identity.

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01:24:43,800 --> 01:24:46,280
Speaker 2: And then we have a whole series of other books, like,

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01:24:46,760 --> 01:24:51,880
Speaker 2: you know, a kid's book about mindfulness, its book about addiction,

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01:24:54,920 --> 01:24:59,000
Speaker 2: book about anxiety, and it's all about having uncomfortable conversations

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01:24:59,040 --> 01:25:03,679
Speaker 2: with kids because a lot of times parents tiptoe around

1515
01:25:03,680 --> 01:25:06,800
Speaker 2: these conversations, and so we said, no, why don't we

1516
01:25:06,880 --> 01:25:10,280
Speaker 2: have these these books where we actually unlock those and

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01:25:10,320 --> 01:25:13,639
Speaker 2: make it a comfortable conversation out of something that's very

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01:25:13,720 --> 01:25:17,599
Speaker 2: uncomfortable to some families. And so, you know, it's just

1519
01:25:17,640 --> 01:25:20,760
Speaker 2: it's something that I invested in because I want to

1520
01:25:20,800 --> 01:25:23,040
Speaker 2: be able to give back. Just like I'm telling you, dude,

1521
01:25:23,120 --> 01:25:26,960
Speaker 2: Kobe really inspired me being with Kobe, being around him

1522
01:25:26,960 --> 01:25:30,080
Speaker 2: and seeing how he went from being a basketball player

1523
01:25:30,080 --> 01:25:33,720
Speaker 2: to actually being you know, winning an oscar, just like

1524
01:25:33,840 --> 01:25:39,639
Speaker 2: you writing books, almost creating an animation studio for inspired

1525
01:25:39,640 --> 01:25:40,280
Speaker 2: by his daughter.

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01:25:41,680 --> 01:25:44,760
Speaker 1: So this is just so, what's the name of the

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01:25:45,280 --> 01:25:46,280
Speaker 1: book series.

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01:25:46,800 --> 01:25:47,800
Speaker 2: A kid's book about?

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01:25:48,720 --> 01:25:50,799
Speaker 6: And where do we find that online?

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01:25:50,920 --> 01:25:55,360
Speaker 2: We get that on Amazon's Kids book About dot com.

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01:25:56,360 --> 01:26:01,080
Speaker 2: And basically it's all these different writers out there kids

1532
01:26:01,120 --> 01:26:04,240
Speaker 2: that are doing the forward so that they that you

1533
01:26:04,400 --> 01:26:06,759
Speaker 2: empower the kids to really be part of this journey

1534
01:26:07,200 --> 01:26:10,559
Speaker 2: along with the books that I'm writing for Marvel. Being

1535
01:26:10,600 --> 01:26:12,880
Speaker 2: an author is very important to me because then I'm

1536
01:26:12,920 --> 01:26:15,800
Speaker 2: able to inspire just like we did with lyrics, Like

1537
01:26:15,880 --> 01:26:19,040
Speaker 2: now I'm putting that same energy in that same approach

1538
01:26:19,120 --> 01:26:22,080
Speaker 2: to writing. Eventually, wanted to do my own script and

1539
01:26:22,160 --> 01:26:25,960
Speaker 2: create the first Native American feature film that will live

1540
01:26:26,280 --> 01:26:28,960
Speaker 2: in that same Marvel space that Black Panther lives. So

1541
01:26:29,600 --> 01:26:32,720
Speaker 2: that's my goal, and I'm doing my due diligence. I'm

1542
01:26:32,720 --> 01:26:35,320
Speaker 2: putting in the groundwork and putting in my ten thousand

1543
01:26:35,400 --> 01:26:39,360
Speaker 2: hours to be able to transition from music into being

1544
01:26:39,800 --> 01:26:43,720
Speaker 2: a creator and a screenwriter and eventually one day on

1545
01:26:43,800 --> 01:26:45,400
Speaker 2: wood are directed.

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01:26:45,400 --> 01:26:47,439
Speaker 4: Film Make it Up.

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01:26:48,000 --> 01:26:50,960
Speaker 3: I mean, you lived a life in which you know

1548
01:26:51,120 --> 01:26:54,559
Speaker 3: you may moves with no trepidation and you know you

1549
01:26:54,640 --> 01:26:57,000
Speaker 3: put your foot forward, so that's definitely going to happen.

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01:26:57,439 --> 01:27:01,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, brother, I appreciate that. And again, uh fante, thank

1551
01:27:01,160 --> 01:27:03,120
Speaker 2: you man, thank you for the inspiration. I hope you

1552
01:27:03,160 --> 01:27:08,240
Speaker 2: feel better. Oh yeah, I want to say Tarique and

1553
01:27:08,360 --> 01:27:12,200
Speaker 2: Pharaoh Munch my two favorite ms of all time, of

1554
01:27:12,280 --> 01:27:12,599
Speaker 2: all time.

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01:27:12,760 --> 01:27:16,559
Speaker 8: I shall relate that to and And honestly, we didn't

1556
01:27:16,560 --> 01:27:18,599
Speaker 8: we didn't touch on daylight, bro, And that was something

1557
01:27:18,680 --> 01:27:21,160
Speaker 8: very important because when you text me about about Dave

1558
01:27:21,240 --> 01:27:23,840
Speaker 8: and that that piece you guys put together, everybody put together,

1559
01:27:23,880 --> 01:27:25,000
Speaker 8: that was beautiful, man, So.

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01:27:25,400 --> 01:27:27,000
Speaker 3: Well, thank you for being a part of that.

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01:27:27,040 --> 01:27:27,200
Speaker 7: Man.

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01:27:27,439 --> 01:27:29,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, I want to dedicate this one to Dave bro

1563
01:27:29,520 --> 01:27:32,880
Speaker 2: and his impact that he had on all of us

1564
01:27:32,960 --> 01:27:35,040
Speaker 2: and what Daylight means to us. And now with their

1565
01:27:35,120 --> 01:27:40,000
Speaker 2: music being on all streaming platforms, I'm proud of Postinus

1566
01:27:40,040 --> 01:27:41,439
Speaker 2: and Mace and Dave.

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01:27:41,840 --> 01:27:44,439
Speaker 3: I'm still listening to music like like It just came

1568
01:27:44,439 --> 01:27:48,559
Speaker 3: out yesterday. Well on behalf of the QLs crew, on

1569
01:27:48,840 --> 01:27:55,000
Speaker 3: Behaving laya cousin, Jake, Telo, Steve and Unpaid Bill came

1570
01:27:55,000 --> 01:27:58,840
Speaker 3: home from a cigarette. Thank you, Taboo, thank you for

1571
01:27:58,960 --> 01:28:01,679
Speaker 3: joining us and this is us Love. We will see

1572
01:28:01,720 --> 01:28:03,679
Speaker 3: you on the next go around, of course, Love Supreme,

1573
01:28:03,840 --> 01:28:21,320
Speaker 3: all right, see you. What's Love Supreme is the production

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01:28:21,520 --> 01:28:29,599
Speaker 3: of iHeart Free. For more podcasts from iHeart Radio, visit

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