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Speaker 1: Welcome to Dirty Rush The Truth about Sorority Life with

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Speaker 1: your hosts me Gia Judice, Daisy Kent, and Jennifer Kessler. Hey, guys,

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Speaker 1: and welcome back to another week of Dirty Rush. Rush

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Speaker 1: is going around all over the country, so we want

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Speaker 1: to tell you, guys what goes in to the preparation

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Speaker 1: of rush before it begins. Candace is going to tell

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Speaker 1: us about the pre rush process. She is starting rush tomorrow,

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Speaker 1: so she is going to tell us about all the

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Speaker 1: preparation that she's been doing to get ready to bring

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Speaker 1: in these p and ms.

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Speaker 2: Hi. So, I'm on exec in my sorority at Berkeley.

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Speaker 3: So we've been here for the last eight days.

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Speaker 2: We move in one day earlier than the rest of

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Speaker 2: the members of my sorority, and basically we run through

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Speaker 2: every single day of sorority recruitment.

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Speaker 3: So we have like the first two days that we.

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Speaker 2: Call unity, the second day which is the Sisterhood Round.

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Speaker 3: There's philanthropy, pref all that type of stuff. Yes, in

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Speaker 3: the past eight days.

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Speaker 2: It's basically been like a nine to five job teaching

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Speaker 2: all of our new members the rituals for each round

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Speaker 2: and kind of how it works, teaching them about bump groups.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, bump groups brings me back. I literally

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Speaker 1: wrote it on my hand, like my name, my my,

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Speaker 1: like my group's name, and I would cross out like

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Speaker 1: each name, and then I would be like, okay, So

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Speaker 1: I you would associate yourself by number? Is that how

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Speaker 1: you guys do it? Like for your bump group? Okay,

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Speaker 1: by letter? So we did it by number. So it

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Speaker 1: was like one, two, three, Typically, like what there's three

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Speaker 1: or four people to a bump bump group mm hm,

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Speaker 1: And so it would be like, okay, Gia, you're after Mikaela,

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Speaker 1: and then there's Avery and then okay, then one is

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Speaker 1: going to bump three and then now three is going

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Speaker 1: to bump two. And I would I would just they

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Speaker 1: would look at me and I'd be like, okay, it's

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Speaker 1: my time to go out.

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Speaker 3: Goshion locations.

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Speaker 2: It's like blue couch by left door behind, compose it outside,

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Speaker 2: So you have to remember every single part and you

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Speaker 2: mess it up, like you might be stuck talking to

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Speaker 2: the same girl for the entire forty minute round. So

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Speaker 2: hopefully it all goes to plant. But it's basically been

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Speaker 2: a nine to five job for the last seven days.

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Speaker 1: Of course, and then I feel like you could also,

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Speaker 1: you know, rely on the other people in your group

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Speaker 1: to kind of help you out and to kind of

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Speaker 1: guide you. But I love the hand system. You just

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Speaker 1: write a little write some stump on your hand.

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Speaker 3: Gosh, I like I would sweat it off. I would

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Speaker 3: nearly be dripping down my arm. I'd be sweating it off.

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Speaker 2: I get so nervous with that type of stuff. It's

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Speaker 2: just like no internal dialogue and.

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Speaker 1: Art, even like reminders on your phone, like okay, now go.

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Speaker 2: To hear and but they actually take away our phones

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Speaker 2: during recruitment, so you, like, if you wanted to sneak

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Speaker 2: your phone like in like the shorts that you're wearing

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Speaker 2: under your dress, like that would be a major no no.

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Speaker 2: So they make us like leave our phones in like

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Speaker 2: a basket in the kitchen, so you read the sheet

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Speaker 2: once of where you need to be and the girl

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Speaker 2: that you're talking to, and then you better remember it

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Speaker 2: or else you're gonna mass them. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Well, I don't remember if we got our phones taken away.

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Speaker 1: That's crazy. I don't remember.

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Speaker 3: So your phoneless the entire day for all of the rounds.

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Speaker 3: So hopefully you get to catch up with.

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Speaker 2: Everyone afterwards, but you, yeah, there's no time in between.

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Speaker 1: I feel like the biggest thing is getting those bump

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Speaker 1: groups down, Oh.

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Speaker 3: My gosh, seriously.

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Speaker 2: And then I feel like the people who are crafting

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Speaker 2: these bump groups, it is so meticulous. It's like you

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Speaker 2: want this, say, you can't have the same type of

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Speaker 2: personality in the same group. You don't want the same grade. Coincidentally,

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Speaker 2: like one of the people in my bunk group is

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Speaker 2: from my same hometown, which was absolutely no. No, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: it's the different personalities, the different locations, different majors, all

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Speaker 1: Because you're supposed to go into it kind of blind,

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Speaker 1: and especially going to Rutgers and being from New Jersey,

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Speaker 1: Rutgers is uh big ten in Jersey, so everyone knew everyone,

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Speaker 1: so it was so difficult. There were some of my

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Speaker 1: best friends in my sorority that were from my hometown.

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Speaker 1: And then you just have the surrounding towns from my

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Speaker 1: surrounding towns that were near my town, and you just

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Speaker 1: this one, so like small world, everyone knows everyone, and

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Speaker 1: it was super difficult. I give whoever does those bump

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Speaker 2: And then as a P and M, when you're going

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Speaker 2: into a house, if you know someone from your hometown,

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Speaker 2: it's that.

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Speaker 3: Whole thing of like do I acknowledge that I know them?

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Speaker 3: Am I not supposed to acknowledge that I know them?

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Speaker 3: What if I have to talk to them? Am I

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Speaker 2: Because I feel like I'm saying, like, oh, that person's

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Speaker 2: from my hometown.

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Speaker 1: There is And then if you know this person, you

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Speaker 1: also have to monitor what you're saying to them because

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Speaker 1: during rush, you know, you're not allowed to talk about

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Speaker 1: going out and social life and boys, and it's so

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Speaker 1: difficult when you're standing there and you know the person

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Speaker 1: and you're gonna be like, so, how's your chem class going?

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Speaker 1: When it's like, you know, you're already on such a

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Speaker 1: different level where you're almost like you almost get like,

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Speaker 1: I don't know, I feel like when that happened, you're

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Speaker 1: almost like, Okay, screw the questions like how how is

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Speaker 1: the mixer yesterday? Like are you enjoying your freshman year?

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Speaker 3: Yes? If they're chilled. Definitely.

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Speaker 2: I can't imagine having the same traditional conversation with someone

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Speaker 3: But because cal is largely in state.

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Speaker 2: I mean, obviously we have international out of state, but

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Speaker 2: people are from California, so you're going to know people,

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Speaker 2: and it's just that whole thing of like do I

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Speaker 2: acknowledge that I know you? Or do I acknowledge that

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Speaker 2: I know your friend? And then you risk giving that

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Speaker 2: member like a weird vibe that like you know someone here,

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Speaker 2: so you think you might.

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Speaker 1: Belong well one hundred percent, because then when you also

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Speaker 1: get into things like that, you don't want to give

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Speaker 1: the potential new members false hope, and then that's when

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Speaker 1: it gets very difficult and tricky.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like there's just been all of these

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Speaker 3: Remind all of our new members.

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Speaker 2: As they go through this work week, of like you

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Speaker 2: can't let them take anything out of the house. You

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Speaker 2: can't let them take a napkin, even if they you like,

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Speaker 2: everything has to stay in because it's we would get

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Speaker 2: such a large fine for it, so you can't really

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Speaker 1: No, definitely, I completely agree. Do you want to talk

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Speaker 1: about maybe each day? Sure, because I feel like the

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Speaker 1: bump groups, no matter like, the bump groups are the

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Speaker 1: most important part. I feel like to preparing the newest

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Speaker 1: class is typically responsible, but sometimes I feel like I

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Speaker 1: did it my junior year as well, and I want

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Speaker 1: to say even my senior year.

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Speaker 2: Yes, so pretty much all of our active members participate

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Speaker 2: in RUSH.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they're mixed in evenly.

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Speaker 2: So for the last seven days we've been going through

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Speaker 2: how to bump correctly. We've been going through run throughs

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Speaker 2: of each day. So typically on the first two days

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Speaker 2: or the days where the PI ANDISS get to talk

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Speaker 2: to the most amount of girls.

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Speaker 1: That's like the biggest speed dating day. I feel what

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Speaker 1: is it? It's like, is it five minute rounds?

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Speaker 2: So the entire round I believe is thirty five minutes,

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Speaker 2: But you're talking to four girls and you need time.

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Speaker 3: You need a lot of time to come into the house,

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Speaker 2: Girls to do the chant or whatever, and time for

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Speaker 2: them to leave because of your late PhD will find you.

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Speaker 3: So it's like drill sergeant day by day.

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Speaker 2: And so for the last seven days we've spent spending

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Speaker 2: the entire day going through each party. So like we'll

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Speaker 2: do a unity, we'll do a Sisterhood day, will do

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Speaker 2: a Filo day, We'll do preth and we just repeat

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Speaker 2: those over and over and over, and it's almost like

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Speaker 2: drill Sergeant, our VP of recruitment. She's awesome, but she

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Speaker 2: definitely has to be stern and strict. But also I

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Speaker 2: feel like, because recruitment is about to start, obviously, the

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Speaker 2: dry period is upon us, and so I feel like

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Speaker 2: everyone was really eager to go out every night and

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Speaker 2: and so like a lot of people are showing up

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Speaker 2: a little bit hungover, but at least they're having a

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Speaker 1: No, definitely, because then while recruitment is going on, nobody

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Speaker 1: big risk for even your potential new members because while

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Speaker 1: they're going through the rush process, they also need to

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Speaker 1: participate in dry week as well as members that are

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Speaker 1: already in sororities. So it's pretty dry on campus, I

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Speaker 1: feel like for that week, or for at least whoever

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Speaker 2: Life seriously, And I feel like even if you were

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Speaker 2: you would be totally done for. I feel like everyone's

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Speaker 3: To the rule.

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Speaker 2: So I feel like you're always looking over your shoulder

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Speaker 2: being like I really hope no one sees me, or

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Speaker 2: like no one takes this out of context.

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Speaker 1: No, one hundred percent, one hundred percent. There definitely is

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Speaker 1: a lot that goes into it, and the people on

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Speaker 1: the back end, especially exec who are really deep diving

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Speaker 1: planning each day, making sure everything is coordinated. It's a

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Speaker 1: lot of pressure.

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Speaker 2: Seriously, I feel like all of our exec has been

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Speaker 2: working all summer to get this all prepped, especially like

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Speaker 2: our VP of Recruitment and so she is living and

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Speaker 2: breathing recruitment, and even our house manager, like we have

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Speaker 2: a whole day dedicated to scrubbing the walls with like

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Speaker 2: mister clean magic erasers get rid of discusss, to like

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Speaker 2: mow the lawn to get rid of the leave this.

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Speaker 2: I feel like there's so much more preparation than just

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Speaker 2: memorizing party flows. You have to clean up your house,

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Speaker 2: You have to check everyone's room to make sure they

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Speaker 3: There's just so many things that we all.

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Speaker 1: And there's the house tours and everything.

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Speaker 2: Yes, teaching the new members who haven't done the house

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Speaker 2: tours what rooms to show, what rooms not to show.

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Speaker 2: Definitely don't take them by the bathrooms that they don't

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Speaker 2: need to see, the laundry room, like yeah, if you

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Speaker 3: So there's definitely a lot of preparation that we've been doing.

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Speaker 1: Do you kind of want to walk through each day

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Speaker 1: and kind of just explain what each day looks like

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Speaker 1: during the recruit during recruitment, Yes, and then kind of

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Speaker 1: like explain like what preparation is like mainly instilled for

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Speaker 3: Yes.

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Speaker 2: So the way that Berkeley does recruitment is our first

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Speaker 2: day of recruitment is on the first day of.

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Speaker 3: Classes, which is today.

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Speaker 2: So today the p and ms are meeting with their rocas,

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Speaker 2: meeting the rest of their group, kind of getting acclimated,

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Speaker 2: but they're not actually visiting any of the houses. That

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Speaker 2: happens tomorrow and the next day, which is called the

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Speaker 2: Unity Round. So the Unity Round, the way that Berkeley

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Speaker 2: It's split up over two days because they believe we

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Speaker 2: have about thirteen houses.

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Speaker 1: I think Rockers had about the same.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's about thirty five minute parties. Every girl

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Speaker 2: has to go into every single house. You're talking to

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Speaker 2: dating round. After each round, each collegiate will go and

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Speaker 2: vote on their P and M on an online platform,

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Speaker 2: and then it's just round after round after round. So

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Speaker 2: after those first two days of Unity days, we'll get

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Speaker 2: callbacks for Sisterhood round, so that round is only one day.

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Speaker 2: I feel like most p and ms go to six

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Speaker 2: or eight houses.

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Speaker 3: That's like the maxim that you can get. And that

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Speaker 3: is the day that.

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Speaker 2: We do our house tours. So you're mostly talking to

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Speaker 2: two girls on this day, much longer conversations. They're getting

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Speaker 2: to know you better, You're getting to know our house

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Speaker 2: kind of, how our sisterhood is in general, how strong

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Speaker 2: it is. And then after all of those rounds, we're

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Speaker 2: voting as well. So then callbacks for the third day,

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Speaker 2: our philanthropy round. As each round goes on and on,

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Speaker 2: they get longer and longer and you're having more personable, personalized,

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Speaker 2: dating as Unity.

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Speaker 1: Exactly, and as each round goes on, if you are

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Speaker 1: forming a connection with this person, let's just say that

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Speaker 1: PREF round is the last round where you will talk

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Speaker 1: to this girl for forty five minutes, and this is

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Speaker 1: like your time to shine, Like you have to seal

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Speaker 1: she's either going to pick your sorority or another one,

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Speaker 1: or she could suicide bid, which is obviously really scary

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Speaker 1: because the sorority also needs to want you to So

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Speaker 1: during that whole thing, the last round, Philanthropy round is

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Speaker 2: Yes, And there is such a steep drop off from

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Speaker 2: Philanthropy to PREF night you have to basically cut the girls.

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Speaker 3: That you have returning in half, if not more. And

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Speaker 3: so the.

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Speaker 2: Girls coming back on preth we are assuming we one

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Speaker 2: hundred percent want them. If you're back on PREF, it's

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Speaker 2: because we want you and we're trying to gauge if

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Speaker 2: you want us. And then on preth you're talking to

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Speaker 2: a girl you've talked to.

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Speaker 3: In a different round.

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Speaker 2: It's very very rare that you would ever be preffed

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Speaker 2: So that also goes into matching. So after you vote

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Speaker 2: on a P and M, you can write in your notes, Hey,

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Speaker 2: I think she would do great with blah blah blah.

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Speaker 2: So it's never a coincidence after those first few rounds

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Speaker 2: who you talk to, because we're actively thinking about who

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Speaker 2: as a sister you would be compatible with and who

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Speaker 2: could get you to join the house. So after PREF,

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Speaker 2: I mean pretty much all the rules are out the window.

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Speaker 2: It depends sorority by sorority, but the way that my

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Speaker 2: things that you're told to avoid during the other rounds

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Speaker 2: of recruitment. You're not supposed to talk about boys, you're

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Speaker 2: not supposed to talk about parties, you're not supposed to

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Speaker 2: talk about politics, all the things people tell you not

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Speaker 2: to talk about. But I feel like on PREF you

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Speaker 2: want them to have a transparent view of what the

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Speaker 2: so if it's really not for them, then they don't join,

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Speaker 2: and they end up joining the house. That's better for them.

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Speaker 2: And like the way that Berkeley PHC talks about suicide

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Speaker 2: I believe it moves you down lower on the house's list,

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Speaker 2: so they could still want you, but for some reason

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Speaker 2: it interferes because you didn't rank both houses.

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Speaker 3: So we always tell people like, even if.

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Speaker 2: You know you want this one house and you really

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Speaker 2: really don't want the other one, to still rank the

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Speaker 2: second house second, because it helps your chances of getting

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Speaker 3: But I'm not sure if it's that way everywhere.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean does not recommend it either to suicide bid,

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Speaker 1: but I don't think I've ever heard that, which is interesting.

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Speaker 1: But then I mean, that makes total sense because sometimes

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Speaker 1: people who suicide bid and then don't get the sorority

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Speaker 1: sorority actually did want them, but then something got messed

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Speaker 1: up in the computer system. At that point, it's like

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Speaker 1: almost too little, too late, and then he needs to

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Speaker 1: hope that they'll offer you a COB in the future.

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Speaker 1: So it definitely does get sticky. It's definitely not recommended

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Speaker 1: but that's also interesting that you guys say all bets

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Speaker 1: also I think it was kind of like an unspoken

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Speaker 1: this girl now for longer periods of time each round.

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Speaker 1: By pref round, it's like, Okay, we need to spice

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Speaker 1: I feel like I also navigated more towards being open

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Speaker 1: them to also know that they're going to have a

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Speaker 1: great time and there is a lot of you know,

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Speaker 1: fun moments in the house and it's not always so

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Speaker 1: serious and we don't always have to be so you know,

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Speaker 1: politically correct while speaking to them during recruitment, Yes, because

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Speaker 1: then you almost like you almost start to feel like

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Speaker 1: talking about the same thing over and over and over again.

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Speaker 2: Yes, And the p and ms can definitely tell when

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Speaker 2: you're holding back, or you're not saying what you want

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Speaker 2: to say, or you're having a very surface level conversation.

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Speaker 2: So I feel like if you then the rules a

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Speaker 2: the transparent vibe that like, what you see is what

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Speaker 2: you're going to get and you're gonna be happy with it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, guys, So the biggest thing during the recruitment process

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Speaker 1: if you are training for recruitment right now, is definitely

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Speaker 1: your bump groups. Your bump groups determine your entire routine

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Speaker 1: during recruitment, and then it just comes down to being

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Speaker 1: your authentic self and winning these girls to choose your sorority.