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Speaker 1: Jamaica. I love you.

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Speaker 2: That's it.

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Speaker 1: That's all I got.

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Speaker 3: Oh, that's actually very similar. I was gonna say it

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Speaker 3: was Jamaica land we love is a part of the

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Speaker 3: national anthem, but it's the land that I love, so badow.

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Speaker 1: It all started with real talk, unfiltered, honest and straight

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Speaker 1: from the heart. Since then, we've gone on to become

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Speaker 1: Webby award winning podcasters in New York Times best selling authors.

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Speaker 3: Dead Ass was more than a podcast for us. It

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Speaker 3: was about our growth, a place where we could be vulnerable,

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Speaker 3: be raw.

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Speaker 2: Of course, but most apportly be us.

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Speaker 3: But as we know, life keeps evolving, and so do we,

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Speaker 3: and through it all, one thing has never changed. This

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Speaker 3: because we got a lot to talk about.

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Speaker 1: Story time, So I'm gonna take you all to the

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Speaker 1: time I fell into Jamaica. Well we fell in love

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Speaker 1: with Jamaica.

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Speaker 3: Well you're fell in ja.

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Speaker 1: Jamaica too, right, And it's funny because ironically I did

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Speaker 1: fall into Jamaica, and this opposite this time too.

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Speaker 2: But let's go back to twenty ten.

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Speaker 4: It is.

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Speaker 1: April twenty ten. We're playing in our wedding, we're getting

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Speaker 1: ready to get get married, and of course it's documented

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Speaker 1: that we had fallen on hard times.

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Speaker 2: Financially, just got released by the NFL.

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Speaker 1: We were still playing in the wedding, trying to transition

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Speaker 1: into more civilian life from being a pro athlete.

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Speaker 2: And at the time you and I were big on sacrifices.

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Speaker 1: It's just like, you know what, we're getting married, getting

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Speaker 1: the wedding the way we wanted. We can forego with honeymoon.

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Speaker 1: That's what we had decided. We can go four goal honeymoon.

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Speaker 1: Focus are starting to build and stuff like that. And

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Speaker 1: I remember Grandma said no, no, no, no, must have

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Speaker 1: a honeymoon. Honey moon, no a no age.

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Speaker 3: The beginning, she was like, y'all get married and no honeymoon.

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Speaker 3: That's the sweetest.

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Speaker 1: Part, says the woman who had seven kids but eight

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Speaker 1: and eight children in two passed. But it to Grandma.

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Speaker 2: I love your grandma.

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Speaker 1: But in that moment, Grandma sponsored and paid for our

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Speaker 1: honeymoon and we went to Jamaica.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and we had the greatest time.

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Speaker 1: In Jamaica. We met two other couples who were also celebrating.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if they were celebrating a honeymoon, but

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Speaker 3: One was yeah, so one had gotten married July third,

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Speaker 3: the day before us, and the other couple I think

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Speaker 3: it was a birthday.

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Speaker 2: It was a birthday, Yes, it was. And this is

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Speaker 2: when I fell in love with Jamaica.

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Speaker 1: After that trip, we come back home across A couple

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Speaker 1: we're pregnant.

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Speaker 2: You know, we're about to have Jackson.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: There we go on Facebook.

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Speaker 1: Both of the couples that was there with us paying

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Speaker 1: back pregnant. Yes, and both couples had babies within a

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Speaker 3: They actually had their babies on the same day. Yes,

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Speaker 3: And then we had Jackson, I want to say, maybe

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, And to this day we still kind of

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Speaker 3: celebrating the anniversary, I mean the honeymoon, she was the hurts. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: She's like, I had one too many Bob Marley's you know,

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Speaker 3: then I didn't think about it, that's right. Absolutely, And

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Speaker 3: then literally about a couple of days later, the other

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Speaker 3: I'm about to get my period any minute now.

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Speaker 4: Nope, nope, no.

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Speaker 3: We were literally all like in stitches. I think we

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's when I fell in love with Jamaica. Man,

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Speaker 1: It's just a place of love.

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 1: People go there, have a great time. First of all,

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Speaker 1: shout out to Grandma, who is Jamaican born and raised

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Speaker 1: to give us that opportunity. So, yeah, fell in love

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Speaker 1: with Jamaica and fell into Jamaica, and another Jamaican fell out, Jackson.

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Speaker 3: And now you're a Jamaica citizen.

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Speaker 1: Yes, look at that.

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Speaker 3: Shout out to cg. Rest in peace. Oh my goodness.

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Speaker 3: All right, karaoke time. Listen. We have the gamut of

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Speaker 3: songs that we could sing. We're actually talking today about,

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Speaker 3: you know, the hurricane Hurricane Melyssa that's hit Jamaica and

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Speaker 3: what it looks like with the relief efforts and how

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Speaker 3: we're doing our part to help. So what we got today,

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Speaker 3: Josh mat I'm gonna pull you into the into the

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Speaker 3: ring as well for karaoke because fellow Jamaicans, Yes, we

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Speaker 3: have so many gun finger Yeah, so take it away

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Speaker 3: karaoke time.

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Speaker 4: Jamaica, Jamaica.

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Speaker 1: J A M.

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Speaker 2: See a Jamaica.

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Speaker 5: He am, I.

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Speaker 2: See a Jamaica.

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Speaker 1: That was not gonna make it.

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Speaker 2: We agree about.

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Speaker 3: Okay, shout out a super cat throw back for people

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Speaker 3: who know you know.

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Speaker 2: I like Josh's version.

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Speaker 1: Better.

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Speaker 2: Remind me of two thousand and two.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's when you really became Jamaican.

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Speaker 1: That was like, in all honesty, I'm not this no,

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Speaker 1: no disrespect to you. Oh god what I really fell

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Speaker 1: in love with Jamaica In sixth grade. I got my

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Speaker 1: first dub from his girl name Listen Hody Junior high school.

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Speaker 2: I'm being honest, Hearty Junior high school. Yo, sixth grade.

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Speaker 1: Now, my family moved from Flatbush to Kanasi. When I

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Speaker 3: Excuse me of.

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Speaker 1: Imagine coming from that dance. Right now, I'm in sixth grade.

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Speaker 1: It's Andre's Huddy Junior High School right all the Flatbush.

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Speaker 1: All of the kids who was from there came to Hoodie.

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Speaker 1: So now we got like dance back.

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Speaker 3: It's nice and mixed up over there.

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Speaker 1: And I'll never forget a Lissa came over to me.

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Speaker 1: She said, you're on dance and I was just like,

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Speaker 2: No clue. Alyssa turned around.

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Speaker 1: She took my hand and held her arm up on

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Speaker 1: her hand like this, and then arched her back into

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Speaker 1: me like this, And I fell in love with Jamaica.

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Speaker 2: Everybody got a classic dug.

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Speaker 1: I remember the song.

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Speaker 2: It started out this, oh.

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Speaker 1: You remember that song from t Okay, And I remember going,

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Speaker 1: don't get hard.

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Speaker 6: You know what he likes, baby, And I remember giving

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Speaker 6: and then she turned out, she said thank you, and

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Speaker 6: then she walked away, and I was in love.

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Speaker 1: Ever, and I was like, I'm gonna get me an

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Speaker 3: Carty baby day, Like.

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Speaker 5: Yo, you want to dance every day every day?

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Speaker 3: Now you're gonna be weird.

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Speaker 1: Though. I was at every party, every party looking for

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Speaker 1: a Lissa like and it was Alyssa and then Alexander Duston.

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Speaker 1: Alexander Duston, you love it, you.

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Speaker 3: Remember every first and last day. Shout out to y'all.

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Speaker 3: Alyssa and Alexandra.

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Speaker 2: Program she was in a sick program.

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Speaker 1: Alexander Duston was in and the Magnet programs comment.

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Speaker 2: My first My first girlfriend was Alexandra. She was very kind.

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Speaker 1: She's the first girl.

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Speaker 2: To kiss me. You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: Up spects like they see Jamaican though, who No, Alyssa

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Speaker 1: was jamaking. Alexandra wasn't to make Alexandra gave me a

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Speaker 2: Alysta is Jamaican. She gave me to double my life always.

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, you know word And she

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Speaker 1: was an Indian and black Jamaican, which is actually kind

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Speaker 3: If you have you had a type.

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Speaker 1: A type found me. She walked over to me, this

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Speaker 1: this is the thing that kind of got me because

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Speaker 2: So when she walked over and she was just like,

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Speaker 2: you want to dub?

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Speaker 3: Some girls did, some girls did.

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Speaker 1: She was like, you want a dub? And I was

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Speaker 4: The hold you.

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Speaker 1: I was like, just had a hand like this, and

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Speaker 2: Then she wouldn't dance. Another guy broke my heart.

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Speaker 3: Oh baby, don't be sucking u up. All right, Let's

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Speaker 3: go pay some bills. Don't be breaking my heart. All right,

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Speaker 3: I'm glad you did, because here I am. Let's go

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Speaker 3: pay some bills, and we're gonna get back and we

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Speaker 3: are going to shift gears and talk about Jamaica and

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Speaker 3: her Ki Melyssa and the aftermath. All right, and we're back.

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Speaker 3: We're back. So we took a quick break. You were

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Speaker 3: talking about the front of the guy's T shirt. Was

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Speaker 3: the way to tell if you had a good time

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Speaker 3: at a party, because if girls wore blue jeans and

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Speaker 3: you were getting dubs, that front bottom portion of your

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Speaker 3: white shirt wrinkle and blue.

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Speaker 5: You look like Jael and brown victim.

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Speaker 2: Right off, whack at.

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Speaker 3: That's hilarious. All right, trups, what you got today for opera? No?

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Speaker 3: Paddles up, y'all?

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Speaker 7: All right, opera No. Today we're talking about Jamaica. And

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Speaker 7: I found something interesting on the internet. So y'all know

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Speaker 7: the government has been shut down for the last like

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Speaker 7: forty one days, yes, and people have been talking a

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Speaker 7: lot about the big beautiful Bill, and Democrats don't want

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Speaker 7: to reopen the government without provisions for the Affordable Care

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Speaker 7: Act being extended. However, there's one thing that's hidden in

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Speaker 7: this funding that is delaying the reopening of the government,

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Speaker 7: and it's a it's a bill about marijuana THHC. Rather,

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Speaker 7: So twenty eighteen, the government passed the Farm Bill that

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Speaker 7: basically has like a hemp loophole in it that allows

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Speaker 7: states to sell THHC products unregulated, so those products are

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Speaker 7: sold under the name Delta eight or Delta nine. It

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Speaker 7: stays like Georgia, where marijuana is not legal. You can

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Speaker 1: It's about how much money they can make anything you've

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Speaker 7: Ram Paul is a senator from Kentucky, and I don't

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's absolutely that's easy. Yes, I've seen that a

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Speaker 1: A lot of money you ain't low. I just I

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Speaker 1: So now I own some Delta eight and Delta nine.

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Speaker 1: Dispensed that part. You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: My only off is to keep the gummies alive. Which

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Speaker 2: The gummies alive, I do.

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Speaker 7: Somebody brought up the fact that Georgia, it's funny that

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Speaker 1: Yes, in Atlanta everywhere.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, thank god for that guy.

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Speaker 7: So also on the in the same vein of Jamaica.

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Speaker 7: Josh trying to say, he didn't say a billion dollars,

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Speaker 7: but he said a billion.

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Speaker 4: I did say a billion.

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Speaker 2: He said a billion.

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Speaker 7: Oh, if he had a billion dollars, he would just

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the whole billion.

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Speaker 7: Well, he would just give money away every day, like thousands,

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Speaker 5: I say, all right, this is what I said. Josh,

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Speaker 4: Man.

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Speaker 5: I swear if I was blessed with millions upon millions,

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Speaker 5: I would quietly bless people every freaking day. I don't

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Speaker 5: need five luxury cars. I don't need a closet full

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Speaker 5: to I don't. I don't need all those luxury items.

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Speaker 5: I don't need five cars. I don't need all that stuff.

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Speaker 5: Here's my thing, though, get Giving money away just for

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Speaker 5: generally has bad repercussions. Absolutely, unless you are you know,

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Speaker 5: you've set a certain amount of money aside to invest,

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Speaker 5: that money. I think giving away that money forever, fivorously, frivolously, yeah,

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Speaker 5: bottom line, right, Like you'll give all that money away

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Speaker 4: I think that's it don't make sense.

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Speaker 2: I think I think it's dumb.

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Speaker 1: I think I think it's important for people to understand

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Speaker 2: Let's let's just look at perspectives, right, say, say.

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Speaker 1: You do have billion dollars, and you just take one

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Speaker 1: hundred million dollars of that building. So now you still

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Speaker 1: have nine hundred millions, so you can have your cars.

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Speaker 2: But you take one.

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Speaker 1: Hundred million dollars and you say you don't gonna put

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Speaker 1: this in an interest bearing account. I get seven percent

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Speaker 1: you make seven million dollars a year on interest just

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Speaker 2: Right, seven million dollars a year is how much a month?

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Speaker 2: That's about six hundred thousand dollars a month. You know

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Speaker 1: If you multiply that time twelve, there's seven point two million,

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Speaker 1: six hundred thousand dollars a month.

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Speaker 2: Divide that by thirty is what about twenty thousand dollars

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Speaker 1: Right, if you had twenty thousand dollars a day in

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Speaker 1: always be regenerated. And the reason why I say that

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Speaker 1: that's only for philanthropy work. That fund always gained interest,

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Speaker 1: so it always replenishes itself. If you do it that way,

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Speaker 1: And I think that's what people need to understand about wealth.

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Speaker 1: Kadeen and I probably every year we donate or give

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Speaker 1: Then it goes to the family expenses. Then after all

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Speaker 1: just the same T shirts I've been wearing since I

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Speaker 3: Looking at the T shirt this morning, I was like, damned.

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Speaker 2: I vo like, I appreciate you.

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Speaker 1: The money that goes into those accounts I keep just

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Speaker 1: get alan. You need to borrow some money. Bro, come

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Speaker 1: to me, Yo, I got you. You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: Sometimes I don't get the money back.

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Speaker 1: A lot of times I don't get the money most

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Speaker 1: most times, Thank you, wife.

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Speaker 2: You can be honest. Most times I don't get the

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Speaker 1: But I feel like it's not my responsibility to police

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Speaker 1: And I'm not even talking about a plan to pay

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Speaker 1: grow that money so you don't have to keep coming back.

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Speaker 1: And I think that's what Josh is talking about, and

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Speaker 1: I agree with you one thousand percent. Like a lot

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Speaker 1: of people get survivor's remorse or survivor's guilt right there.

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Speaker 1: I made all this money, This is unfair to all

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Speaker 3: You have valance people, y'all. I'm not people, y'all. I

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Speaker 3: literally just went through this. No, but I will say

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Speaker 8: No.

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Speaker 3: We've made the provisions, So that's the one thing I

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Speaker 3: And that's my issue with exactly. It's like, can you

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Speaker 3: I don't need My back is not really against the

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Speaker 5: So that's the even if they're back is against the wall.

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Speaker 5: Why am I the default for you?

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Speaker 3: For?

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Speaker 8: Like?

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Speaker 4: Why am I your savior? Right? I'm not a millionaire.

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Speaker 4: I'm a thousandaire right, And I've.

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Speaker 5: Loaned the same people money multiple times, and that doing

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Speaker 5: that will let you realize, like people will will knowing

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Speaker 5: not necessarily a bad thing. They'll always come to you

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Speaker 4: Because that's my issue.

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Speaker 5: Yes, Like if I'm a millionaire now that that's a

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Speaker 5: when I was a thousand year Yeah, you know, I'll

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Speaker 5: it's fine also, But my thing is I cannot be

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Speaker 5: So I don't mind donating, I don't mind giving. I

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Speaker 5: if that becomes habitual, that's an issue for.

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Speaker 1: So let me ask a question, when it becomes habitual,

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Speaker 1: Because this is what I just really, this is what

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Speaker 1: one thing I will say about Kay. My heart sometimes

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Speaker 1: like how many times are you going to say yes

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Speaker 2: What you're playing?

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Speaker 1: And sometimes I do feel like Dan, I don't want

445
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Speaker 1: to because in order to criticize people, sometimes you put

446
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Speaker 1: yourself on a moral high ground where you feel like

447
00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:10,719
Speaker 1: you're better than people. And I never want to come

448
00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:12,520
Speaker 1: across like that, you know what I'm saying. So sometimes

449
00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:14,119
Speaker 1: I'll be like, you know what, I'm not going to

450
00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:16,560
Speaker 1: give them the third degree. I'll just trust them. And

451
00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:18,360
Speaker 1: then when it don't happen and they ask for money again,

452
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Speaker 1: I'm like, I'll trust you, and they can be like yo,

453
00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:24,040
Speaker 1: the value you're getting used. Yeah, and I'm just like dang,

454
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Speaker 1: and she's like it's not their fault. Now, no, this

455
00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:30,520
Speaker 1: is her. No is a complete sentence. You don't have

456
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Speaker 1: to give a reason. The person keeps coming back and

457
00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:35,080
Speaker 1: they're not even giving you a plan.

458
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Speaker 3: Bro, Yeah, that's all you want to ask for. See

459
00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:40,960
Speaker 3: people at having the you know, the drive, you know

460
00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:43,639
Speaker 3: they want to actually get out of this situation. People

461
00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:45,480
Speaker 3: fall on hard times all the time, which is is

462
00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:47,880
Speaker 3: part of life. And you don't mind helping an assistant.

463
00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:50,080
Speaker 3: That's what we're here for, you know, But when it

464
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Speaker 3: becomes habitual, then that's the issue.

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Speaker 7: Well, I will say about this. I have The first

466
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Speaker 7: thing I want to say is that I'm falling on

467
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Speaker 7: hard times. I need a vacation and I needed to

468
00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:04,800
Speaker 7: be free. So if you wanna donate, donate, you will

469
00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:09,960
Speaker 7: not be giving that money back. But I thought this

470
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Speaker 7: was interesting because we're talking about ourselves today, like we

471
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Speaker 7: have the money that we have. You know, y'all got

472
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Speaker 7: fifty eleven kids, and I'm sure that you know, being

473
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Speaker 7: probably the most successful people in your inner circle, people

474
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Speaker 7: probably come to you all the time. And I do believe,

475
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Speaker 7: I mean, I don't got no money, and I give

476
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Speaker 7: my money away all the time, my niece, my sister,

477
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Speaker 7: whoever needs it, you know what I'm saying, But it

478
00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:34,359
Speaker 7: always comes back to me.

479
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Speaker 2: I'm always fine.

480
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Speaker 7: But I thought it was interesting too because I've been

481
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Speaker 7: hearing a lot about Jeff Bezos' ex wife, Mackenzie Scott.

482
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Speaker 7: So when they got divorced, she got four percent ownership

483
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Speaker 7: in Amazon, and so her net worth became thirty eight

484
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Speaker 7: billion dollars. Since then, she's given away or sold forty

485
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Speaker 7: two percent of her shares in Amazon. She's given away

486
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Speaker 7: nineteen almost twenty billion dollars, and now her net worth

487
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Speaker 7: went from thirty eight billion to thirty five billion.

488
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Speaker 1: Because here's my thing, that the truth, when you get

489
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Speaker 1: to that level of money, it grows so exponentially fast.

490
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Speaker 1: That's what I'm going to do with thirty person.

491
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Speaker 2: Absolutely, you can support a whole nation.

492
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Speaker 3: Absolutely, and that's probably what I'd end up doing.

493
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Speaker 4: Yeah, you will, you will.

494
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Speaker 3: I would absolutely give me thirty five million dollars you

495
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Speaker 3: make I'm going to rebuild the entire fucking country. You

496
00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:29,080
Speaker 3: would alone, single endedly just rally up the troops. And

497
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Speaker 3: I'm there, like, absolutely, completely completely agree with her.

498
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Speaker 7: Yeah, so I think it is a mindset, like it's

499
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Speaker 7: the money coming back to you. Of course it is tenfold.

500
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Speaker 7: And I feel like as people that don't really have shit,

501
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Speaker 7: you know, you'd be like, man, if I had, I

502
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Speaker 7: would give it away because you're never gonna have to

503
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Speaker 7: face that, you know what I'm saying, Like, and when

504
00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:49,520
Speaker 7: you do, it's going to be more of a problem

505
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Speaker 7: than you can even imagine.

506
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Speaker 3: Oh problem, that is an actual fact.

507
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Speaker 1: And here's another thing too, man, and iris don't come

508
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Speaker 1: from me, but when you start making a lot of money,

509
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Speaker 1: the last thing you want to do is give it

510
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Speaker 1: all to the government. So you look for ways to

511
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Speaker 1: help the people around you. Like that's that's me and

512
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Speaker 1: kay biggest thing because I'm like, you make a certain

513
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Speaker 1: amount of money, Now do you want to tax me

514
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Speaker 1: forty eight percent? So I work my tail off and

515
00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:14,520
Speaker 1: you want to take forty eight percent and not gonna happen.

516
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna start a business or do something, and then

517
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Speaker 1: I'm an employ all my friends so that we can

518
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Speaker 1: all learn how to make money. And you know what

519
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Speaker 1: I'm saying, I'm not gonna just give it all to

520
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Speaker 1: the government. I'm not writing a check. I did that

521
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Speaker 1: two times and I had to go to the I

522
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Speaker 1: told you all the one time I had to write

523
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Speaker 1: the check for the government in January and I had

524
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Speaker 1: to go take the massive shit bro like it hurt

525
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Speaker 1: my spirit and I was like, man like, I was like,

526
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Speaker 1: there's no way because there's so many people that I

527
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Speaker 1: know personally who could have used that money. And it

528
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Speaker 1: was just like if I had found a way before tax,

529
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Speaker 1: you know, before I knew how tax worked, I would

530
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Speaker 1: have been able to do this.

531
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Speaker 2: And that's where we are now.

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Speaker 1: So now when people come to us for asking for

533
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Speaker 1: money or stuff like that, I'm like, well, you got

534
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Speaker 1: to get me to write tax time. And if there's

535
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Speaker 1: a way for me to help, and you have a

536
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Speaker 1: plan and it's not going to go against what I

537
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Speaker 1: have long term, let's do it.

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Speaker 4: I do have a plan.

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Speaker 7: I was gonna go down to Puerto Rico and all

540
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Speaker 7: inclusive resorts.

541
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Speaker 1: To get a ninety minute massage in my room and

542
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Speaker 1: I know all the dudes and that's watching and I

543
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Speaker 1: will be like, I'll give you.

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Speaker 7: I haven't been looking for Mackenzie Scott's email address for

545
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Speaker 7: the last like three days. All I need is like

546
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Speaker 7: one hundred k that's nothing to hurt.

547
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Speaker 2: That's like mackenzie Scott for more than a hundred.

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Speaker 1: She got thirty given away for me. Like you said, McKenzie, McKenzie,

549
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Speaker 1: give me get one.

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Speaker 3: Bill example.

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Speaker 2: Yea right now, make you plead McKenzie.

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Speaker 3: McKenzie says, listen, if you're just out here giving away money,

553
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Speaker 3: I got mad kids. They want about six seven six seven,

554
00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:03,480
Speaker 3: and it goes to the right place. Thank you. We

555
00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:08,560
Speaker 3: love them. We'll do the right thing. They do this too.

556
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Speaker 3: Coda's real cute with it too. Let me tell you

557
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Speaker 3: Jackson just had his first basketball game of the season yesterday,

558
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Speaker 3: Oh my god, and the game winning it wasn't a

559
00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:22,520
Speaker 3: game winning shot because they were leading, but the score

560
00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:27,280
Speaker 3: was sixty four forty and this kid put up a

561
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Speaker 3: shot with like two seconds left and it was a

562
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Speaker 3: three pointer. Yes, what was the final score? Mat? And

563
00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:40,960
Speaker 3: let me tell you, the student section where crazy. It

564
00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:43,439
Speaker 3: was a whole thing. And Dakota didn't pick up on

565
00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:46,040
Speaker 3: it right away. And then Matt was like, Coda, look

566
00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:47,720
Speaker 3: at the score. What's the score? And he was like,

567
00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:56,119
Speaker 3: brou I'll never understand it, never understand it. Right, that

568
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Speaker 3: part that's not even in our age group. Anymore. All right,

569
00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:07,800
Speaker 3: So as we shift gears now back to Jamaica, Hurricane

570
00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:14,200
Speaker 3: Melissa that just completely completely devastated the entire west side

571
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Speaker 3: of the island. First off, everyone's family is all right, yes,

572
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Speaker 3: Josh Matt, thank god.

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Speaker 5: No, I mean, honest with you, I still haven't heard

574
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Speaker 5: from my father in law. I'm sure he's dead. I'm

575
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Speaker 5: sure he's dead, but we just haven't heard from him. Yeah, definitely,

576
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Speaker 5: he's in my Tico Bay.

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Speaker 1: So wow.

578
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Speaker 4: Yeah.

579
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Speaker 2: Let me tell you something. Certain people know their people.

580
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Speaker 3: Mm hmm.

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Speaker 1: If your father was in Jamaica right now, he'd be fine.

582
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Speaker 1: I would not be concerned. He'd be somewhere floating around

583
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Speaker 1: helping some people.

584
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Speaker 4: Floating, I mean float walking.

585
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Speaker 1: I mean you know what I mean.

586
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Speaker 2: Like you know how if you don't know Pos, you know,

587
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Speaker 2: if you know Pops, you.

588
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Speaker 1: Know Pops float walking, walk with life. But it should

589
00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:57,919
Speaker 1: be around there doing his thing. Like remember y'all went Saturday.

590
00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:01,440
Speaker 1: Pops wanted to be around everybody. He like certain men,

591
00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:02,400
Speaker 1: you just know like.

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Speaker 3: They're going to be They're gonna find a way. So

593
00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:07,880
Speaker 3: I have to two gentlemen who are considering my uncles.

594
00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:09,600
Speaker 3: They're like my dad's best friends. I've grown up with

595
00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:13,440
Speaker 3: them my whole life. I'm Lindley, Who's our driver whenever. Yeah,

596
00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:15,760
Speaker 3: the minute we touch down, he's the first face we see.

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00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:18,760
Speaker 3: So shout out to mister Grant Lindley. He's like an

598
00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:21,720
Speaker 3: uncle to me. He's good. Thank god. I think he

599
00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:24,159
Speaker 3: lost the roof of his house, but you know, in

600
00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:26,360
Speaker 3: the grand scheme of things, and in considering how many

601
00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:30,439
Speaker 3: people have lost literally everything, thank god, he's okay. My

602
00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:37,760
Speaker 3: uncle Carl as well. And then you know, when you

603
00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:41,479
Speaker 3: go frequently, you really just kind of adopt people like family.

604
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:44,080
Speaker 3: You know, you see them year after year, time after time.

605
00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:45,760
Speaker 3: When you go down and there are a couple of

606
00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:48,520
Speaker 3: people like waitress are one of our favorite restaurants in

607
00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:51,160
Speaker 3: the Grill, who I've kept in touch with. You know,

608
00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:52,840
Speaker 3: I reached out to her, didn't hear from her for

609
00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:54,360
Speaker 3: a bit, so I was a little panicked. But when

610
00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:56,360
Speaker 3: she finally reached back out, she said, you know, I'm like,

611
00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:58,280
Speaker 3: how is everything you know? Are you okay? She's like,

612
00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:01,840
Speaker 3: I have life and that's all you know, and thank

613
00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:03,800
Speaker 3: God for that, because where there's life, there's hope. Right.

614
00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:07,320
Speaker 3: So her and her two sons, of course, will have

615
00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:11,000
Speaker 3: to rebuild everything, so, you know, just found ways to

616
00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:13,600
Speaker 3: get her some resources and some cash just to like,

617
00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:17,120
Speaker 3: you know, hold things over until resources came in on

618
00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:19,080
Speaker 3: the ground. I think that's been the hardest part for me,

619
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:24,920
Speaker 3: managing this entire hurricane and then the aftermath. It's feeling

620
00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:28,680
Speaker 3: a bit of a survivor's guilt having not been there

621
00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:30,680
Speaker 3: and then also not being able to be on the

622
00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:34,200
Speaker 3: ground to assist in some kind of way. So the

623
00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:37,280
Speaker 3: biggest thing for us was trying to navigate how we

624
00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:40,120
Speaker 3: can help from a peer to get the aid down

625
00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:42,280
Speaker 3: to Jamaica in the most effective way, in the most

626
00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:45,280
Speaker 3: timely way. But I'll rewind a bit for you guys

627
00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:49,080
Speaker 3: to my story time. I guess my version of when

628
00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:51,400
Speaker 3: I saw the hurricane was approaching Jamaica and what that

629
00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:54,200
Speaker 3: was looking like for me at the time. Deval had

630
00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:57,600
Speaker 3: to put out a video on Instagram, which I think

631
00:29:57,640 --> 00:29:59,880
Speaker 3: he felt the need to do. I in that moment didn't,

632
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:03,040
Speaker 3: but I know that it bothered you that you people

633
00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:06,360
Speaker 3: weren't commenting that I was not posting about Jamaica in

634
00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:08,640
Speaker 3: the time frame that they saw fit. Right.

635
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Speaker 1: I'll just say this, I'm the person that always says

636
00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:13,200
Speaker 1: social media is not a real place, because it wasn't

637
00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:16,760
Speaker 1: to me, right. I don't get defensive about the stuff

638
00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:18,880
Speaker 1: about me. I could care less, but it was about

639
00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:21,800
Speaker 1: you and your home country and your mom's country, and to.

640
00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:24,040
Speaker 2: Me that was a lot more personal, Okay.

641
00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:25,920
Speaker 1: So I just felt that it's important for people to

642
00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:29,800
Speaker 1: understand that oftentimes when people create narratives digitally and you

643
00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:33,080
Speaker 1: don't respond, those narratives become truth for other people. And

644
00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:35,200
Speaker 1: in this moment, I never wanted the narrative to be

645
00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:37,600
Speaker 1: that you didn't care about Jamaica or it was something

646
00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:38,800
Speaker 1: that was an afterthought for you.

647
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Speaker 2: It just pissed me off.

648
00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:44,040
Speaker 1: Especially dealing with everything you were going through in that moment, right,

649
00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:46,239
Speaker 1: you know, So you can finish, But I just want

650
00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:48,880
Speaker 1: to be clear, like it did bother me a little

651
00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:49,560
Speaker 1: bit because it was.

652
00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:51,280
Speaker 2: You right, right, you know what I'm saying.

653
00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:54,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I appreciate that, you know, it's a voute

654
00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:57,000
Speaker 3: you come into my aid and defense in that moment,

655
00:30:57,080 --> 00:31:00,480
Speaker 3: But really my mind was so my mind in my

656
00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:02,920
Speaker 3: heart was so heavy at the time. Yes, of course,

657
00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:06,080
Speaker 3: because I saw the disaster that was, you know, hitting

658
00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:11,000
Speaker 3: Jamaica or pending landfall. But at the time I was

659
00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:15,840
Speaker 3: also dealing with my really good friend that people know,

660
00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:17,880
Speaker 3: the Council General of Jamaica New York. Her name is

661
00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:21,080
Speaker 3: Alicion Wilson. I met her back in two thousand, I

662
00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:24,480
Speaker 3: want to say nineteen, and I met her actually because

663
00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:27,000
Speaker 3: my makeup artist Nelly in New York was like, you know,

664
00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:29,000
Speaker 3: I know you love Jamaica so much you want to

665
00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:30,760
Speaker 3: do some more work down there, Like, you should really

666
00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:33,280
Speaker 3: connect with the Council General here in New York because

667
00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:35,440
Speaker 3: she's been doing some really great work, a lot of

668
00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:38,320
Speaker 3: community outreach. You guys have like like minded spirit, like

669
00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:40,880
Speaker 3: minded heart wanting to give back. So she said, you

670
00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:42,479
Speaker 3: should really like maybe see if you can get an

671
00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:44,840
Speaker 3: appointment with her to visit her. So I reached out

672
00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:47,719
Speaker 3: to her on Instagram and literally she messaged me right

673
00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:49,160
Speaker 3: back and she was like, I would love to meet

674
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:50,840
Speaker 3: you in person the next time you're in New York,

675
00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:53,200
Speaker 3: please come Are you a citizen of Jamaica You should

676
00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:56,240
Speaker 3: be if your mom was born there. So went to

677
00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:58,880
Speaker 3: meet her, took you guys, the boys, we all went

678
00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:01,360
Speaker 3: to see her. This is before Kakoda was born, and

679
00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:03,479
Speaker 3: we went to visit her. And at that point I

680
00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:06,840
Speaker 3: was able to get my citizenship for Jamaica, and then

681
00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:08,600
Speaker 3: once I had mine, the boys were able to get

682
00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:11,000
Speaker 3: it because they're my children. And then we applied for

683
00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:13,920
Speaker 3: yours as a spouse, and she and I just had

684
00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:21,080
Speaker 3: a relationship that far surpassed just the formalities of Jamaica

685
00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:25,080
Speaker 3: and her role. She became to me a very dear friend,

686
00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:28,120
Speaker 3: almost like a second mother. She's someone who I look

687
00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:30,920
Speaker 3: to for advice. She's someone who spoke life and to me,

688
00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:34,960
Speaker 3: she saw a side of me that I didn't expect

689
00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:36,880
Speaker 3: her to see. I guess because in her capacity, I

690
00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:39,760
Speaker 3: expected that she talked to several people, She interacted with

691
00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:41,920
Speaker 3: so many people, so it was almost like why did

692
00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:45,160
Speaker 3: she connect with me so much? But I really feel

693
00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:48,280
Speaker 3: like it was a mutual matter of the heart where

694
00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:51,400
Speaker 3: she and I just really connected on a very very

695
00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:54,440
Speaker 3: deep level. So anytime she called me, you know anything

696
00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:57,880
Speaker 3: related to Jamaica, you know kidsneys, iPads, back home, back

697
00:32:57,920 --> 00:32:59,760
Speaker 3: to school drives, I would always be a part of

698
00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:02,080
Speaker 3: the nation process for her. And those are things that

699
00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:05,360
Speaker 3: I don't always advertise because I'm not doing it for

700
00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:08,200
Speaker 3: the accolades. I'm doing it because I genuinely just want

701
00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:12,600
Speaker 3: to be of help to people and I also am

702
00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:16,720
Speaker 3: seed her independence gala that she did for Jamaica and

703
00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:20,120
Speaker 3: most recently did one in August with her. So she

704
00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:22,920
Speaker 3: found out that she was diagnosed with cancer last July,

705
00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:26,280
Speaker 3: and you know, of course was in touch with her,

706
00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:29,400
Speaker 3: you know, all the time to get updates on everything.

707
00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:33,280
Speaker 3: And I got the news from her assistant when I

708
00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:36,160
Speaker 3: didn't hear from her for about a week or two,

709
00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:38,880
Speaker 3: which was strange because she would always voice note me back, y'all. No,

710
00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:41,240
Speaker 3: I love my voice notes, and I saw she hadn't

711
00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:44,320
Speaker 3: checked one of mine. And I reached out to someone

712
00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:46,680
Speaker 3: who's very close to her, like an assistant to her,

713
00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:49,520
Speaker 3: and he said, hey, you know, they think things have

714
00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:53,560
Speaker 3: taken a turn since you've seen her in August. Can

715
00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:56,960
Speaker 3: you come up to see her. So, you know, when

716
00:33:56,960 --> 00:33:59,800
Speaker 3: someone says that to you, it's kind of like you instantly,

717
00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:02,680
Speaker 3: like my heart sank, she said. He said to me,

718
00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:04,360
Speaker 3: you know, things are a lot different than when you

719
00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:06,720
Speaker 3: saw her in August. She looks different. I think you

720
00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:10,560
Speaker 3: should come see her sooner than later. So it was

721
00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:15,120
Speaker 3: the Tuesday morning that Melissa was pending landfall on Jamaica.

722
00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:18,640
Speaker 3: I took the first flight out into Newark and went

723
00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:21,839
Speaker 3: straight to the hospital and I spent the day with her.

724
00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:24,520
Speaker 3: And when I walked into the room, because she'd loved

725
00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:26,560
Speaker 3: to watch CNN, she was always abreastive. It was always

726
00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:28,080
Speaker 3: on in her office. When I went to see her,

727
00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:31,360
Speaker 3: and CNN was on the screen, and I saw that.

728
00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:34,120
Speaker 3: When I walked in, of course, she her eyes lit up.

729
00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:36,279
Speaker 3: She saw me. I gave her a hug. She told

730
00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:38,120
Speaker 3: me I smelled good. She would always hug me and

731
00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:40,040
Speaker 3: tell me how good I smelled. So she was like,

732
00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:43,359
Speaker 3: you smell good. And we were watching CNN and then

733
00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:45,160
Speaker 3: like girl, like Jamaica, I'm like, you gotta get out

734
00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:47,120
Speaker 3: this bed. I'm like, look at home. We have to

735
00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:49,160
Speaker 3: get back there to help, Like you see, this hurricane

736
00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:52,560
Speaker 3: is actually looking like it's going to be category five.

737
00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:53,560
Speaker 1: You know.

738
00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:56,720
Speaker 3: And she wasn't able to say much, but we did speak.

739
00:34:57,040 --> 00:35:00,839
Speaker 3: I spent the day with her. Her would help her

740
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:03,840
Speaker 3: like doing arm exercises. I would help her eat, drink,

741
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:06,600
Speaker 3: things like that. And she wasn't able to really move

742
00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:09,400
Speaker 3: her extremities too much. I think in part because she

743
00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:12,319
Speaker 3: was at that point very weak, very fatigued.

744
00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:12,760
Speaker 1: And.

745
00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:15,920
Speaker 2: It had been over a year of fight at that point.

746
00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:18,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, it had been over a year. You know, we

747
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:20,239
Speaker 3: were always in touch with her to hear how things

748
00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:23,239
Speaker 3: were progressing. But I think, deep down inside, I just

749
00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:25,560
Speaker 3: never thought it would get to this point. You know

750
00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:28,520
Speaker 3: where I was with her that Tuesday. So while I

751
00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:30,239
Speaker 3: was there, I was speaking to a couple of her

752
00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:33,000
Speaker 3: other close friends who were there, her husband. I was

753
00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:35,120
Speaker 3: in touch with her office as well, like, okay, guys,

754
00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:38,640
Speaker 3: once the hurricane does hit, we got to start getting information.

755
00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:40,359
Speaker 3: You know, we have to rally the troops, like how

756
00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:43,920
Speaker 3: are we going to start to lend aid to Jamaica

757
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:48,480
Speaker 3: once the storm passes. And that day was particularly emotional

758
00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:50,840
Speaker 3: for me, of course because that was my It was

759
00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:54,840
Speaker 3: seeing her in that state, but also I think knowing

760
00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:56,880
Speaker 3: that when I left her it might have been the

761
00:35:56,960 --> 00:36:00,440
Speaker 3: last time that I saw her. And you know, she

762
00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:01,960
Speaker 3: got very tired while I was there, so there was

763
00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:05,600
Speaker 3: a portion of the day where she slept, and when

764
00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:08,200
Speaker 3: I was counting down till I had to go back

765
00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:13,239
Speaker 3: to catch my flight back home, she and I were

766
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:15,680
Speaker 3: talking to each other more. I was doing more of

767
00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:17,440
Speaker 3: the talking, but I said, you know, listen, girl, like

768
00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:20,959
Speaker 3: the story is not over, Like we have stuff to do.

769
00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:23,520
Speaker 3: Get out of this hospital. I'm going to come see

770
00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:25,640
Speaker 3: you when you're at home and we can go get

771
00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:27,719
Speaker 3: our condo in Jamaica or whatever it is. Get our

772
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:30,319
Speaker 3: houses will be neighbors, you know. And I'm talking things up,

773
00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:33,399
Speaker 3: just trying to get her spirits up, stay positive, and

774
00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:37,040
Speaker 3: she was nodding and she smiled a bit. I said

775
00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:39,279
Speaker 3: goodbye to her daughter and a couple other people who

776
00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:42,800
Speaker 3: were there, and then as I walked out of the door,

777
00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:46,040
Speaker 3: she something told me to turn back and look at her.

778
00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:48,319
Speaker 3: So I was walking out the door, you know, trying

779
00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:49,880
Speaker 3: to hold it together because in that moment, I was

780
00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:52,400
Speaker 3: like all the emotions were like here. And then I

781
00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:55,720
Speaker 3: looked back and she lifted her hand to her mouth

782
00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:57,280
Speaker 3: and she blew me a kiss.

783
00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:08,880
Speaker 8: That take your time, baby, come on, come on me

784
00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:11,920
Speaker 8: and I am.

785
00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:17,400
Speaker 3: And that's something that she always did when I left her,

786
00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:24,920
Speaker 3: every time I visited her in her office, that's always

787
00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:30,640
Speaker 3: something that she did. And I guess it was particularly

788
00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:35,360
Speaker 3: special for me in that moment because she wasn't moving

789
00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:38,480
Speaker 3: her extremities or arms like, she wasn't moving them, and

790
00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:42,120
Speaker 3: the fact that she found the strength to blow one

791
00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:50,920
Speaker 3: last kiss to me, it just shattered my whole heart

792
00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:56,480
Speaker 3: and I was able to keep together the entire time

793
00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:58,040
Speaker 3: I was there because I know I had to be

794
00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:02,439
Speaker 3: strong for her, and I had asked for the room

795
00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:05,440
Speaker 3: to pray with her when I got there kind of

796
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:07,719
Speaker 3: in the middle of the day, and I started to

797
00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:09,319
Speaker 3: cry a bit, and she looked at me and she

798
00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:11,839
Speaker 3: squeezed my hand and she was like, Kadin, don't cry.

799
00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:15,320
Speaker 3: You can't cry. You can't cry. God is in control,

800
00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:18,799
Speaker 3: and I said, absolutely he is. So I had to

801
00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:21,920
Speaker 3: hold it together for her. But when she blew me

802
00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:25,440
Speaker 3: that kiss, and her daughter said, oh my god, Kadeen,

803
00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:27,799
Speaker 3: like you got her to blow you a kiss, Like

804
00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:31,840
Speaker 3: she hasn't even moved her arms for anything, I just

805
00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:38,880
Speaker 3: closed the door and I just and now wait. And

806
00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:42,400
Speaker 3: that was the last time I saw her. I'm so

807
00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:45,400
Speaker 3: happy that you encouraged me to take that trip. And

808
00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:47,279
Speaker 3: we cleared everything out for the day and I was

809
00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:50,600
Speaker 3: able to divvy up the responsibilities with the kids. Shout

810
00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:52,520
Speaker 3: out to our families, and our parents were making sure

811
00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:54,040
Speaker 3: that the day was okay, so I can just have

812
00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:56,640
Speaker 3: the day, Thank you, Matt, to go and see her.

813
00:38:57,760 --> 00:39:07,000
Speaker 3: And that's why I couldn't post right away about the hurricane,

814
00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:12,960
Speaker 3: because I was in the midst of Hurricane Melissa. I

815
00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:23,080
Speaker 3: was in my own storm.

816
00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:22,840
Speaker 2: And that's why sometimes you gotta respond.

817
00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:26,520
Speaker 1: I didn't want to say anything, but I'm watching my

818
00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:28,480
Speaker 1: wife go through grief and watching my wife hurt, and

819
00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:33,120
Speaker 1: I'm watching people online and social media is not real,

820
00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:35,640
Speaker 1: like people really going through real stuff in life, Like

821
00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:39,280
Speaker 1: people were really looking for family members, people were losing

822
00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:42,520
Speaker 1: family members, and the first thing you're thinking about is

823
00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:44,799
Speaker 1: not putting a post on social like people were really

824
00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:47,480
Speaker 1: looking for people. And that's the only reason why I

825
00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:51,040
Speaker 1: said something, and not to take it to that, but

826
00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:54,120
Speaker 1: I do want to point out that you and al

827
00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:58,240
Speaker 1: Sion's love for each other is like the most Jamaican thing. Yeah,

828
00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:00,800
Speaker 1: you know, we can make jokes about the being about

829
00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:05,120
Speaker 1: food and being about dancing and music, but Jamaican people

830
00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:07,920
Speaker 1: really have huge hearts and it's big on love. Like

831
00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:10,720
Speaker 1: think about Grandma sending us on our honeymoon, thinking about

832
00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:14,280
Speaker 1: how the whole world came together recently to rally around

833
00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:16,319
Speaker 1: Jamaica because Jamaica like one love.

834
00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:19,279
Speaker 3: Absolutely, you know what, I'm absolutely that's that to me

835
00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:21,719
Speaker 3: is what the bigger the bigger art, but yeah, because

836
00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:25,239
Speaker 3: that was what we shared, that love, that deep, deep

837
00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:28,480
Speaker 3: love for Jamaica and where we're from. But it's also

838
00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:32,520
Speaker 3: people didn't hear from their family members, Like there was

839
00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:34,520
Speaker 3: a lot going on. There were people I didn't hear from.

840
00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:38,000
Speaker 3: So my first instinct was not to just post pray

841
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:41,160
Speaker 3: for Jamaica, just to do that, Like I was literally

842
00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:45,479
Speaker 3: on the phone on WhatsApp, like reaching out to people

843
00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:47,680
Speaker 3: down there who can find who, Like there were so

844
00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:53,279
Speaker 3: many things happening simultaneously along with me knowing that al

845
00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:58,680
Speaker 3: Sion was declining rapidly, and it was just a very

846
00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:01,560
Speaker 3: difficult week and it's still has been a difficult week.

847
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:05,719
Speaker 3: And I just got the news once this ears and

848
00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:08,640
Speaker 3: I'll just say it was four days ago on Dakota's

849
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:12,880
Speaker 3: the morning of Dakota's birthday, that I found out that

850
00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:20,600
Speaker 3: she passed. And I didn't even have a chance to

851
00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:23,120
Speaker 3: process it all the way because I have to pick

852
00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:29,120
Speaker 3: up the pieces and put on the face and celebrate

853
00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:31,680
Speaker 3: my baby turning four, because he woke up that morning

854
00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:34,799
Speaker 3: and that's all he knew. It was his birthday, and

855
00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:37,200
Speaker 3: his brothers were happy, and we had a birthday party

856
00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:42,160
Speaker 3: planned And I just found someone so close to music

857
00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:49,600
Speaker 3: here anymore, and it's I'm so angry. I feel like

858
00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:52,400
Speaker 3: I stillieve in that I haven't had a chance surprise

859
00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:59,560
Speaker 3: the whole thing. I had Dakota's birthday party, a band

860
00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:04,600
Speaker 3: together with Sonnia, Richard Ross, Mamy Nation, Raina's Kitchen, Pretty

861
00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:07,120
Speaker 3: v We're all talking to see how we can do

862
00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:10,520
Speaker 3: our part down here in Atlanta. So I have Dakota's

863
00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:14,640
Speaker 3: birthday party on a Saturday. My friend died that morning. Sunday.

864
00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:17,440
Speaker 3: I'm out meeting and greeting people and thanking them for

865
00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:23,680
Speaker 3: coming out and bringing donations and all the things. And

866
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:32,040
Speaker 3: I didn't even have a chance to sitting it yet. Sorry, guys,

867
00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:33,280
Speaker 3: it wasn't supposed.

868
00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:37,239
Speaker 1: To be this. Take your toncause it's not even about that.

869
00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:38,080
Speaker 2: Just take your tongue.

870
00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:40,600
Speaker 1: You haven't even spoken about this at all.

871
00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:42,080
Speaker 2: You haven't done anything.

872
00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:51,200
Speaker 3: To me about it, understand. Like the physical hurts so badly,

873
00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:56,880
Speaker 3: and I just think because it's just it's just so

874
00:42:57,080 --> 00:43:00,879
Speaker 3: unfair how this disease took her. And I just never

875
00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:02,960
Speaker 3: thought it was going to be her because she was

876
00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:06,120
Speaker 3: a fighter and she was so positive and we would

877
00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:09,120
Speaker 3: share prayers and devotionals and she never won shit a

878
00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:12,200
Speaker 3: tear in this entire process because she was just so confident,

879
00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:15,960
Speaker 3: like she was like, I'm going to be fine, and

880
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:18,839
Speaker 3: this disease just took her the way I'm sure most

881
00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:21,319
Speaker 3: people who've had people that they've lost the cancer Like

882
00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:24,160
Speaker 3: it's just such an unfair disease. And I look at

883
00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:28,800
Speaker 3: how much work she's done for so many people across

884
00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:32,200
Speaker 3: the globe, across the diaspora, for Jamaica, and it just

885
00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:35,680
Speaker 3: doesn't make sense, you know. It just feels really unfair,

886
00:43:38,120 --> 00:43:43,440
Speaker 3: feels really unfair. So those were all the things that

887
00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:46,080
Speaker 3: I've been juggling for the past two weeks. It's just

888
00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:49,280
Speaker 3: been a very heavy I think fourth quarter in general.

889
00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:54,360
Speaker 3: You know, fourth quarter started with Dad, Yeah, Dad, you know,

890
00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:57,360
Speaker 3: in the stroke and the recovery from that, and it

891
00:43:57,400 --> 00:43:59,240
Speaker 3: just feels like it's been one thing after the next.

892
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:03,080
Speaker 3: And I'm not here to for sympathy and pity party

893
00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:05,400
Speaker 3: or anything like that, because the world in general is

894
00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:08,279
Speaker 3: a very heavy place right now, and I think that

895
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:11,600
Speaker 3: that adds to you know, the uncertainty of where things

896
00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:15,239
Speaker 3: are with our government and across the globe, so many

897
00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:18,040
Speaker 3: people are suffering in so many different countries, and it's

898
00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:22,200
Speaker 3: just a very very heavy time. But that's that's my personal.

899
00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:26,239
Speaker 3: I guess weight that I've been bearing, you know, for

900
00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:29,399
Speaker 3: the past two weeks and more than that, just as

901
00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:33,600
Speaker 3: I've been with Alcion on her journey. I went to

902
00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:36,440
Speaker 3: see her back in May and I told her, you know,

903
00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:38,480
Speaker 3: like I'm never I did a video of selfie with

904
00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:39,960
Speaker 3: her and I was like, I'm you know, I'm never

905
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:42,680
Speaker 3: going to leave you and I'm with you, and She's like,

906
00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:45,040
Speaker 3: thank you for just being with me on this journey.

907
00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:47,880
Speaker 3: Like and to me at that time, it was about

908
00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:50,320
Speaker 3: what the testimony was going to be after the fact,

909
00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:54,520
Speaker 3: you know, I just knew that the work wasn't done

910
00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:56,399
Speaker 3: here for her. I was going to be here with

911
00:44:56,440 --> 00:44:58,520
Speaker 3: her to complete whatever it is we had to complete

912
00:44:58,520 --> 00:45:01,080
Speaker 3: in this lifetime, and it just feels like it was

913
00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:04,879
Speaker 3: cut short. But she was so impactful in the time

914
00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:07,279
Speaker 3: that she was here. I would love to dedicate this

915
00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:14,759
Speaker 3: episode to her, because she was just one of Matt

916
00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:16,960
Speaker 3: got to meet her and spend some time with her

917
00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:19,000
Speaker 3: for a week. We went down for the Jamaica Diaspora

918
00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:24,080
Speaker 3: Conference last June June twenty fourth, and we spent a

919
00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:26,720
Speaker 3: week with her, So Matt, you can echo how amazing

920
00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:28,120
Speaker 3: she she was.

921
00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:31,279
Speaker 9: I can't even put it into words, begin to put

922
00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:33,200
Speaker 9: it into words. But she also helped me to get

923
00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:34,680
Speaker 9: my Jamaican citizenship as well.

924
00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:37,840
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I forgot yeah, and Sean and his family,

925
00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:40,160
Speaker 3: like she was just an advocate for that. She's like,

926
00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:43,440
Speaker 3: we need more Jamaicans abroad who are invested in making

927
00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:46,880
Speaker 3: sure that Jamaica is going to be okay. And I

928
00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:49,360
Speaker 3: don't want to glaze over the donation drive that we

929
00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:53,480
Speaker 3: did where we got together, like I said, like minded,

930
00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:58,880
Speaker 3: like spirited, big hearted Jamaicans, Raina, Sonia, Sasha, pretty v

931
00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:01,960
Speaker 3: Tracy st We all got together. There were so many

932
00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:04,160
Speaker 3: people who came out, and I said, it felt like

933
00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:08,799
Speaker 3: such a day of community and togetherness and hope. You know,

934
00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:11,399
Speaker 3: it restored my hope in humanity in a time where

935
00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:16,120
Speaker 3: I feel like we really just don't have that anymore. Too.

936
00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:19,520
Speaker 1: It also not to cut you off about earlier.

937
00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:21,400
Speaker 2: I seen how Jamaican's rally.

938
00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:26,160
Speaker 1: Your cousin who you know, giving paying it forward isn't monolithic.

939
00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:30,200
Speaker 1: She didn't have any monetary things to give her, any clothes,

940
00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:32,440
Speaker 1: but she had a van, a white van, and she

941
00:46:32,560 --> 00:46:34,560
Speaker 1: drove all the way over here from Gannisau.

942
00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:34,920
Speaker 7: Right.

943
00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:37,520
Speaker 1: She was actually a Lawrenceville, Ye Lawns picked up all

944
00:46:37,560 --> 00:46:39,600
Speaker 1: of the stuff that we had. People brought things over

945
00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:42,239
Speaker 1: here and they drove it all the way to Kennessey.

946
00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:43,919
Speaker 3: And she stayed the entire day with us, and she's

947
00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:46,920
Speaker 3: with my mom today sorting through all of the clothes

948
00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:49,400
Speaker 3: that we're gonna now package up and send back home.

949
00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:53,839
Speaker 3: That's it. That's it. Like some people came and were

950
00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:57,080
Speaker 3: just like, hey, I just have two hands. What do

951
00:46:57,120 --> 00:46:57,919
Speaker 3: you need me to do?

952
00:46:58,200 --> 00:46:58,520
Speaker 5: You know?

953
00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:00,719
Speaker 3: Some people came with one item, some people came with

954
00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:03,600
Speaker 3: trucks full. But we always say every make them make

955
00:47:03,640 --> 00:47:07,040
Speaker 3: a muckle, like every little bit counts, every little bit

956
00:47:07,120 --> 00:47:09,640
Speaker 3: is impactful. And I just felt so good to be

957
00:47:09,719 --> 00:47:11,600
Speaker 3: in a space where we felt like in that moment

958
00:47:11,640 --> 00:47:14,359
Speaker 3: we were able to do something tangible. And I still

959
00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:18,840
Speaker 3: have been working with other organizations using my platform. So

960
00:47:18,920 --> 00:47:20,840
Speaker 3: now the power, Yes, I do believe this power in

961
00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:25,799
Speaker 3: social media and being able to post credited yes sources.

962
00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:27,640
Speaker 9: Yes, that's very important.

963
00:47:27,719 --> 00:47:30,120
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, it is during this time that I was

964
00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:32,080
Speaker 1: going to say, it's important that we say this too.

965
00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:35,000
Speaker 1: Just because you see a link on someone's page doesn't

966
00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:37,719
Speaker 1: mean that you click it and donate. In the digital age,

967
00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:40,600
Speaker 1: is also the age of scamming. Yes, they're scamming people

968
00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:43,319
Speaker 1: when there isn't disaster release, but they know that you

969
00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:46,080
Speaker 1: can catch people with their heartstrings. And it's important for

970
00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:49,040
Speaker 1: people to know. Most scams go after elderly people.

971
00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:50,120
Speaker 2: Who they know want to help.

972
00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:52,320
Speaker 1: So they'll call you and say that they're the elderly

973
00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:55,440
Speaker 1: person's grandchild or son and they need help. So imagine

974
00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:57,120
Speaker 1: if they know that the world is looking to help

975
00:47:57,120 --> 00:47:58,959
Speaker 1: a country, it's easy to create a link and says

976
00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:02,320
Speaker 1: this goals to help Jamaica relief, and it don't go anywhere.

977
00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:04,440
Speaker 1: Kadeena and I knew that in the very beginning, and

978
00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:06,520
Speaker 1: we said we were not just going to post links

979
00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:09,160
Speaker 1: because when you have millions of followers, you can get

980
00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:12,640
Speaker 1: millions of dollars donated to a place, and it's irresponsible

981
00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:14,640
Speaker 1: to not know where that money is going, right, So

982
00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:17,279
Speaker 1: supporting that all of us, you know, use our minds,

983
00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:20,040
Speaker 1: use our senses, you know, but also give each other graces.

984
00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:22,520
Speaker 1: People are actually going through things during this time, and

985
00:48:22,560 --> 00:48:25,279
Speaker 1: they may not be coming forward the way you want

986
00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:28,320
Speaker 1: them to come forward, but people are doing their best.

987
00:48:28,520 --> 00:48:30,920
Speaker 3: Or the way they're advertising. And deval and I, for example,

988
00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:33,080
Speaker 3: with us having the platforms we have, we have a

989
00:48:33,120 --> 00:48:37,080
Speaker 3: responsibility to share links and platforms that are credited. So

990
00:48:37,160 --> 00:48:43,160
Speaker 3: I met with cig I call her CG Alcion's office.

991
00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:45,960
Speaker 3: Chris Benjamin, who was the person in charge when she

992
00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:48,440
Speaker 3: was away, must a chief of staff. Yeah, And I said, Chris,

993
00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:50,440
Speaker 3: how can like, what can I do? Let me know

994
00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:52,239
Speaker 3: what you need? Like, how can we band together to

995
00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:53,759
Speaker 3: get the word out? And he said, well, we have

996
00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:57,560
Speaker 3: the sources that are credited. Let's do a live. I'm like, oh, perfect.

997
00:48:57,800 --> 00:48:59,600
Speaker 3: So I didn an one hour live that I put

998
00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:01,560
Speaker 3: on my page after the fact so people can go

999
00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:04,000
Speaker 3: to and say, okay, here are the various links. Do

1000
00:49:04,120 --> 00:49:07,120
Speaker 3: your due diligence, look at which organization you know serves

1001
00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:10,560
Speaker 3: what some might be targeted towards kids. Mammy Nation is

1002
00:49:10,600 --> 00:49:13,120
Speaker 3: single moms with children. Like see where you want your

1003
00:49:13,160 --> 00:49:15,040
Speaker 3: money to go? And just know that if I've shared

1004
00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:18,440
Speaker 3: the source, it's either an organization that I've vetted or

1005
00:49:18,480 --> 00:49:20,840
Speaker 3: someone that I know personally who is on the ground

1006
00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:22,880
Speaker 3: making a change. And the difference.

1007
00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:23,400
Speaker 2: What's her name?

1008
00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:26,000
Speaker 1: What's Vanessa's last name? I watched you do that too.

1009
00:49:26,280 --> 00:49:28,279
Speaker 1: You're reaching out to Vanessa who has the trucks down

1010
00:49:28,320 --> 00:49:30,000
Speaker 1: there in Jamaica. Oh yes, and they were able to

1011
00:49:30,040 --> 00:49:31,840
Speaker 1: get to certain people, and you were reaching out to

1012
00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:33,680
Speaker 1: your other people who are in areas that couldn't be

1013
00:49:33,760 --> 00:49:35,000
Speaker 1: reached and you will connect.

1014
00:49:35,080 --> 00:49:38,520
Speaker 3: I was connecting people down there. So this younger lady

1015
00:49:38,560 --> 00:49:42,960
Speaker 3: named Sasha, a young lady named Sasha on Instagram. She's

1016
00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:45,360
Speaker 3: everything Jamaica. So anytime I come down to Jamaica, she

1017
00:49:45,400 --> 00:49:46,919
Speaker 3: knows all the fruits. I love, all of my little

1018
00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:49,560
Speaker 3: Jamaican goods. She brings sweet soft for mom when we

1019
00:49:49,600 --> 00:49:52,839
Speaker 3: have birthday parties. She brings all of the Jamaica like souvenirs.

1020
00:49:53,320 --> 00:49:55,920
Speaker 3: So she literally was like, I lost everything. I have nothing,

1021
00:49:56,160 --> 00:49:58,319
Speaker 3: and my neighbor is dead. The body is here next

1022
00:49:58,320 --> 00:50:00,479
Speaker 3: to us, and no one can get to was because

1023
00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:03,320
Speaker 3: the roads are bad. So I got her phone numbers

1024
00:50:03,360 --> 00:50:05,799
Speaker 3: from to Vanessa. Vanessa has the trucking company. They're trying

1025
00:50:05,840 --> 00:50:07,880
Speaker 3: to use the trucks to get to places for relief.

1026
00:50:08,120 --> 00:50:10,239
Speaker 3: So it's like about trying to connect people in real

1027
00:50:10,280 --> 00:50:14,359
Speaker 3: time alignment in real life. In real life, it's talking

1028
00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:16,160
Speaker 3: to people in Kingston. I'm like, Okay, who needs what?

1029
00:50:16,239 --> 00:50:18,600
Speaker 3: Way I know? Sean Paul had an organization will feed

1030
00:50:18,600 --> 00:50:21,640
Speaker 3: the poor. That he was linking with Romeich, who is

1031
00:50:22,160 --> 00:50:25,279
Speaker 3: I think she sent she sorry Shensy is manager or

1032
00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:27,680
Speaker 3: old manager. But he was down there giving out a

1033
00:50:27,680 --> 00:50:29,319
Speaker 3: ton of stuff and I'm like, bro, I'll send you

1034
00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:32,600
Speaker 3: a Zel. Just go buy stuff for people. So you

1035
00:50:32,719 --> 00:50:35,600
Speaker 3: have to give people grace and also the benefit of

1036
00:50:35,640 --> 00:50:38,000
Speaker 3: the doubt. If I was to sit here and post

1037
00:50:38,040 --> 00:50:40,160
Speaker 3: every time I made a call, every time I sent

1038
00:50:40,239 --> 00:50:42,840
Speaker 3: to Zel, then you'll be telling me I'm doing it

1039
00:50:42,880 --> 00:50:45,520
Speaker 3: for cloud right, and she's helping people. But she's doing it. No,

1040
00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:47,600
Speaker 3: that's corny. That's corny.

1041
00:50:47,840 --> 00:50:50,520
Speaker 7: And then it's like the people talking about you not posting,

1042
00:50:50,560 --> 00:50:52,280
Speaker 7: what have you done?

1043
00:50:52,520 --> 00:50:53,799
Speaker 1: That's what you need to they worried about.

1044
00:50:53,920 --> 00:50:55,399
Speaker 2: I'm worried about what the next person is doing.

1045
00:50:55,400 --> 00:50:58,719
Speaker 7: They do everything you can because at the end of

1046
00:50:58,760 --> 00:51:02,360
Speaker 7: the day, you are spending all your energy being negative

1047
00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:05,719
Speaker 7: towards somebody else. You're not expending any positive energy to

1048
00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:07,280
Speaker 7: help anybody, not even yourself.

1049
00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:08,560
Speaker 2: You're sitting in misery.

1050
00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:09,600
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1051
00:51:10,120 --> 00:51:10,680
Speaker 4: I don't comment.

1052
00:51:11,040 --> 00:51:13,560
Speaker 5: I don't comment on those people because it was the

1053
00:51:13,600 --> 00:51:15,799
Speaker 5: same people that says that the prime ministers the one

1054
00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:16,880
Speaker 5: who caused the hurricane.

1055
00:51:18,280 --> 00:51:19,000
Speaker 3: That's the whole another.

1056
00:51:20,920 --> 00:51:23,359
Speaker 4: Yeah, that is a growing theory, right, it's a growing thing.

1057
00:51:23,400 --> 00:51:26,320
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, caused the hurricane cloud.

1058
00:51:26,360 --> 00:51:30,879
Speaker 1: You heard the theory that they used the serious I can't,

1059
00:51:31,120 --> 00:51:33,080
Speaker 1: I can't take it. Sure as there's a theory though

1060
00:51:33,120 --> 00:51:35,960
Speaker 1: that I know. Jamaica was getting into the movie industry

1061
00:51:36,239 --> 00:51:37,600
Speaker 1: and they were also getting I think it was like

1062
00:51:37,600 --> 00:51:39,600
Speaker 1: six seven hundred and fifty million.

1063
00:51:39,320 --> 00:51:41,640
Speaker 2: Dollars one hundred and fifty one hundred and fifty million dollars.

1064
00:51:41,680 --> 00:51:44,160
Speaker 4: You talking about the bond, yes, yeah, and they.

1065
00:51:44,040 --> 00:51:45,920
Speaker 1: Were saying that they used this machine to cause a

1066
00:51:45,960 --> 00:51:48,600
Speaker 1: hurricane to bring down that Ye.

1067
00:51:48,840 --> 00:51:52,720
Speaker 2: Americans going to have this sm smart.

1068
00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:54,879
Speaker 3: That's what saw too, right. Yeah. So for those who

1069
00:51:54,880 --> 00:51:58,040
Speaker 3: don't know, one of the areas most most damage, I

1070
00:51:58,040 --> 00:52:00,719
Speaker 3: would say that the direct hit was saying Elizabeth, which

1071
00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:04,319
Speaker 3: is like the southwest portion of the island. Yeah, so

1072
00:52:04,400 --> 00:52:07,960
Speaker 3: Saint Elizabeth and Westmoreland is where Melissa passed through and

1073
00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:10,520
Speaker 3: she cuts through the top through Hanover, which is at

1074
00:52:10,560 --> 00:52:13,360
Speaker 3: the top on the north coast. But Saint Elizabeth is

1075
00:52:13,400 --> 00:52:15,600
Speaker 3: known to be the bread basket they call it of Jamaica.

1076
00:52:15,640 --> 00:52:19,760
Speaker 3: That's where agriculture is heavy. It's heavy there, so people

1077
00:52:19,800 --> 00:52:21,800
Speaker 3: are thinking that it was strategically done to hit the

1078
00:52:21,840 --> 00:52:23,640
Speaker 3: bread basket so that way.

1079
00:52:24,160 --> 00:52:27,120
Speaker 1: So another country can come in and save Jamaica, but

1080
00:52:27,200 --> 00:52:29,080
Speaker 1: also colonize it in a way where it's like we

1081
00:52:29,120 --> 00:52:32,280
Speaker 1: have control over these resources and these bonds and stuff.

1082
00:52:32,320 --> 00:52:33,680
Speaker 1: This is the conspiracy theorist.

1083
00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:42,920
Speaker 3: Listen, there's so many there's so many theories. It's so convoluted.

1084
00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:48,240
Speaker 3: But yeah, my encouragement, I think, would just be assist

1085
00:52:48,719 --> 00:52:51,279
Speaker 3: where you can, because let's be let's be also for real.

1086
00:52:51,360 --> 00:52:54,000
Speaker 3: Right here in America, there are people who are also

1087
00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:59,239
Speaker 3: struggling because the holiday is coming up, the whole thing

1088
00:52:59,239 --> 00:53:01,759
Speaker 3: around the government shut down, snap benefits, There's just so

1089
00:53:01,840 --> 00:53:05,440
Speaker 3: many people who are in need. My biggest thing is

1090
00:53:05,800 --> 00:53:10,480
Speaker 3: be kind. Be kind to people. You never know when

1091
00:53:10,520 --> 00:53:13,319
Speaker 3: you'll be need, You never know when someone else is

1092
00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:17,879
Speaker 3: going through something. Just be kind, Like it's something so

1093
00:53:17,920 --> 00:53:21,160
Speaker 3: simple that might be my moment of truth. You just

1094
00:53:21,239 --> 00:53:23,400
Speaker 3: never know what someone is going through and where you

1095
00:53:23,440 --> 00:53:27,560
Speaker 3: can help. Find whatever your charity is, find whatever country

1096
00:53:27,640 --> 00:53:30,719
Speaker 3: you want to stand behind, find whatever effort that you

1097
00:53:30,800 --> 00:53:34,800
Speaker 3: think is worth your time and your money or your resources,

1098
00:53:35,080 --> 00:53:38,120
Speaker 3: and just do something. Do something before you're pointing the

1099
00:53:38,160 --> 00:53:40,240
Speaker 3: finger of somebody else and saying what they're not doing.

1100
00:53:40,520 --> 00:53:41,879
Speaker 2: I would also take it a step further.

1101
00:53:41,920 --> 00:53:44,080
Speaker 7: You don't need to even know, you don't even need

1102
00:53:44,120 --> 00:53:46,759
Speaker 7: it doesn't matter what somebody could be going through. We're

1103
00:53:46,800 --> 00:53:49,680
Speaker 7: all here together, and the reason that we're here together

1104
00:53:49,760 --> 00:53:54,040
Speaker 7: is because we need each other. We can't do anything alone,

1105
00:53:54,400 --> 00:53:56,880
Speaker 7: and so we have to support each other through everything.

1106
00:53:57,520 --> 00:54:00,960
Speaker 7: Because life is going, the world is always spinning. Life

1107
00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:03,720
Speaker 7: has to go on at all times. The people who

1108
00:54:03,760 --> 00:54:07,480
Speaker 7: have been who've lost their homes, lost their lives and

1109
00:54:07,520 --> 00:54:09,880
Speaker 7: the hurricane, life is still moving. They still got to

1110
00:54:09,920 --> 00:54:12,640
Speaker 7: keep going. For you losing a friend, life is still moving.

1111
00:54:12,640 --> 00:54:14,880
Speaker 7: You still have to keep going. And we need to

1112
00:54:14,920 --> 00:54:18,360
Speaker 7: support each other through that because nobody gets to stand still.

1113
00:54:18,880 --> 00:54:21,440
Speaker 7: You don't got to even don't who cares what somebody

1114
00:54:21,440 --> 00:54:23,400
Speaker 7: else is going through. You're standing next to them, stand

1115
00:54:23,480 --> 00:54:24,839
Speaker 7: up for them and stand with them.

1116
00:54:25,840 --> 00:54:29,319
Speaker 1: I agree with you, tu, But like I, you gave

1117
00:54:29,320 --> 00:54:31,520
Speaker 1: you a moment of truth, you gave yours. Man, I

1118
00:54:31,560 --> 00:54:34,960
Speaker 1: just second that I ain't gonna lie. I just hearing

1119
00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:36,800
Speaker 1: you talk like that kind of got me upset. I

1120
00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:39,640
Speaker 1: ain't gonna lie. Yeah, surely got me upset, Like it

1121
00:54:39,719 --> 00:54:41,279
Speaker 1: really pissed me off a lot, and I don't have

1122
00:54:41,320 --> 00:54:43,719
Speaker 1: another moment of truth. I'm gonna echo what Trible.

1123
00:54:43,480 --> 00:54:45,640
Speaker 3: Said because I'm kind of I mean, it wasn't technically

1124
00:54:45,640 --> 00:54:47,680
Speaker 3: a moment of truth time, but I was just saying no, but.

1125
00:54:47,920 --> 00:54:50,919
Speaker 1: I know you're just more needs to be said. Yeah,

1126
00:54:51,080 --> 00:54:53,440
Speaker 1: because people are really trying to help people. Yeah, you

1127
00:54:53,480 --> 00:54:55,360
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. And I echo both of y'alls.

1128
00:54:55,360 --> 00:54:56,520
Speaker 1: So that's my moment of truth.

1129
00:54:56,360 --> 00:54:57,600
Speaker 9: In the vain of helping people. What do you think

1130
00:54:57,640 --> 00:55:00,759
Speaker 9: people need most? What are some things that we can help?

1131
00:55:02,520 --> 00:55:04,080
Speaker 3: Well, I think the biggest thing as it pertains to

1132
00:55:04,120 --> 00:55:06,800
Speaker 3: Jamaica only because this is the episode about the hurricane

1133
00:55:06,840 --> 00:55:11,279
Speaker 3: relief and post because of the level of devastation. It's

1134
00:55:11,320 --> 00:55:13,680
Speaker 3: not going to be something that's fixed in a month

1135
00:55:14,640 --> 00:55:16,920
Speaker 3: or a couple months. This is going to be a

1136
00:55:16,960 --> 00:55:19,400
Speaker 3: long haul process. And there is also a such thing

1137
00:55:19,560 --> 00:55:24,160
Speaker 3: as donation fatigue or just asking fatigue. Like there's certain

1138
00:55:24,480 --> 00:55:26,440
Speaker 3: avenues and like kind of ways that I've had for

1139
00:55:26,480 --> 00:55:29,120
Speaker 3: help that I haven't even like solicited help from yet

1140
00:55:29,160 --> 00:55:31,520
Speaker 3: because I'm like, Okay, I'll help now where I can

1141
00:55:31,600 --> 00:55:34,040
Speaker 3: in this facet, and then I know that there's someone

1142
00:55:34,040 --> 00:55:36,040
Speaker 3: who's gonna need help in another two or three months,

1143
00:55:36,080 --> 00:55:38,320
Speaker 3: So then maybe I'll ask someone else at that point,

1144
00:55:38,400 --> 00:55:40,799
Speaker 3: or I'll accrue enough assets to be able to do

1145
00:55:40,840 --> 00:55:42,360
Speaker 3: that because I need to get back to work. Divorce

1146
00:55:42,400 --> 00:55:45,799
Speaker 3: systance where you at. But no, it's just it's like

1147
00:55:45,920 --> 00:55:48,040
Speaker 3: it's going to be a long haul process. So the

1148
00:55:48,040 --> 00:55:53,320
Speaker 3: biggest thing right now people need shelter. Their houses are flattened. Flattened,

1149
00:55:53,640 --> 00:55:59,759
Speaker 3: so food, nonperishables, diapers, clothing, those are things that are needed,

1150
00:55:59,760 --> 00:56:01,759
Speaker 3: of course ongoing, so people can at least start to

1151
00:56:01,840 --> 00:56:04,600
Speaker 3: feel like themselves again. But I think the next level

1152
00:56:04,640 --> 00:56:08,279
Speaker 3: will be rebuilding homes. People need zinc, they need some men.

1153
00:56:08,360 --> 00:56:11,000
Speaker 3: I had a young lady dm me. That's another thing.

1154
00:56:11,040 --> 00:56:13,720
Speaker 3: My dms, my messages, my emails have been going crazy,

1155
00:56:13,760 --> 00:56:16,640
Speaker 3: and I'm like the heart in me wants to help

1156
00:56:16,680 --> 00:56:19,440
Speaker 3: everybody and answer every message and find connect people. I

1157
00:56:19,480 --> 00:56:21,000
Speaker 3: had a young lady dm me and she's like, I

1158
00:56:21,040 --> 00:56:24,080
Speaker 3: just need someone to tell me that my niece and

1159
00:56:24,120 --> 00:56:27,600
Speaker 3: my aunt are okay. I forget the familial, but it

1160
00:56:27,680 --> 00:56:29,680
Speaker 3: was like a niece and aunt. She sent me phone

1161
00:56:29,760 --> 00:56:32,000
Speaker 3: numbers and names. I took a screenshot. I sent it

1162
00:56:32,040 --> 00:56:34,759
Speaker 3: to my friend in Kingston. She went to the address

1163
00:56:36,040 --> 00:56:39,480
Speaker 3: to find these people and connected them. That's what they

1164
00:56:39,480 --> 00:56:42,359
Speaker 3: do and I'm like, that's what I was doing, and

1165
00:56:42,400 --> 00:56:44,719
Speaker 3: that made me feel like I was able to This

1166
00:56:44,760 --> 00:56:47,320
Speaker 3: woman can sleep now because she knows that her family's okay.

1167
00:56:47,560 --> 00:56:49,480
Speaker 3: And then my friend, thank God for her, who's like

1168
00:56:49,520 --> 00:56:51,719
Speaker 3: an angel walking around Kingson. Her name is Shakima Shout

1169
00:56:51,719 --> 00:56:54,600
Speaker 3: Out Shakima. Shakima was our event planner for the that

1170
00:56:54,760 --> 00:56:57,120
Speaker 3: was fortieth birthday party. I met her at my friend's

1171
00:56:57,200 --> 00:56:59,839
Speaker 3: bodding and I'm like, she just she literally is down

1172
00:56:59,840 --> 00:57:03,560
Speaker 3: there like the person like putting the puzzle back together

1173
00:57:03,600 --> 00:57:08,080
Speaker 3: for pieces, connecting the dots, you know, so finding you know,

1174
00:57:08,160 --> 00:57:10,880
Speaker 3: resources the younger ladies just like I just need cement,

1175
00:57:12,000 --> 00:57:15,000
Speaker 3: bricks and zinc so I could just rebuild my house

1176
00:57:15,040 --> 00:57:17,919
Speaker 3: for my kids. So that will be the long haul.

1177
00:57:18,000 --> 00:57:20,400
Speaker 1: I think it's important too because people can't get in

1178
00:57:20,480 --> 00:57:22,720
Speaker 1: and out of places and agriculture has been destroyed there.

1179
00:57:22,800 --> 00:57:23,640
Speaker 2: People need food.

1180
00:57:24,440 --> 00:57:28,240
Speaker 1: One of our close friends, Curtis Lancaster, Yeah, he's an

1181
00:57:28,280 --> 00:57:30,480
Speaker 1: Air Force veteran, and he was saying that they do

1182
00:57:30,520 --> 00:57:33,320
Speaker 1: this thing where after six to seven days six seven

1183
00:57:33,800 --> 00:57:36,760
Speaker 1: people not having access to food is when humans turn

1184
00:57:36,840 --> 00:57:40,040
Speaker 1: into the humans you see on movies and people start

1185
00:57:40,080 --> 00:57:42,440
Speaker 1: to get you know, nervous, and they start to hold

1186
00:57:42,480 --> 00:57:45,000
Speaker 1: things and they become violent. So I think, yeah, in

1187
00:57:45,040 --> 00:57:47,880
Speaker 1: the next in the next two weeks, we need to

1188
00:57:47,920 --> 00:57:50,600
Speaker 1: send as much food and light as we can so

1189
00:57:50,680 --> 00:57:52,840
Speaker 1: people can feel like, Okay, I'm not gonna die.

1190
00:57:53,160 --> 00:57:54,480
Speaker 2: Because once that happens.

1191
00:57:54,160 --> 00:57:56,000
Speaker 1: If you don't have food and you don't have hope,

1192
00:57:56,200 --> 00:57:58,080
Speaker 1: that's when you become you know, despair.

1193
00:57:58,320 --> 00:58:00,920
Speaker 3: Yeahs. Think about when you're a you're angry, right, we're

1194
00:58:00,960 --> 00:58:03,840
Speaker 3: going angry, Like, Yeah, imagine being in a situation where

1195
00:58:03,840 --> 00:58:04,439
Speaker 3: you don't have that.

1196
00:58:04,360 --> 00:58:07,400
Speaker 1: Can sleep because you don't have a bed, you become emotionally,

1197
00:58:07,800 --> 00:58:10,800
Speaker 1: you know, unbalanced, because we talk about sleep deprivation all

1198
00:58:10,920 --> 00:58:13,680
Speaker 1: time from mothers who go through that. Imagine being in

1199
00:58:13,720 --> 00:58:16,600
Speaker 1: an island where it can be really really hot in

1200
00:58:16,640 --> 00:58:18,480
Speaker 1: the day and you don't have any water, you have

1201
00:58:18,480 --> 00:58:19,880
Speaker 1: no place to sleep, no place to sit down.

1202
00:58:19,920 --> 00:58:21,800
Speaker 2: Your mind can go. So I think we need to

1203
00:58:21,800 --> 00:58:24,200
Speaker 2: start to try to get some food and water and.

1204
00:58:24,160 --> 00:58:26,160
Speaker 1: The children children to like.

1205
00:58:26,120 --> 00:58:28,320
Speaker 3: Being a parent. I'm like, oh my god. I spoke

1206
00:58:28,400 --> 00:58:31,840
Speaker 3: to one young lady down there who we know. She's

1207
00:58:31,880 --> 00:58:34,360
Speaker 3: come like family to us and she has two sons

1208
00:58:34,440 --> 00:58:37,960
Speaker 3: fourteen and seven, that's Jackson and Jazz, and she's just like,

1209
00:58:38,040 --> 00:58:40,439
Speaker 3: we lost everything. Her son sent me his own little

1210
00:58:40,440 --> 00:58:42,080
Speaker 3: message and he was like, thank you so much for

1211
00:58:42,120 --> 00:58:44,960
Speaker 3: sending resources to my mom. She can get us some

1212
00:58:45,080 --> 00:58:47,760
Speaker 3: food and clothes. She's He's like, you know, if you can,

1213
00:58:48,040 --> 00:58:50,280
Speaker 3: I would love a solar powered lamp because I don't

1214
00:58:50,280 --> 00:58:51,640
Speaker 3: know when I'm going to go back to school.

1215
00:58:51,720 --> 00:58:52,439
Speaker 2: And he want to read.

1216
00:58:52,520 --> 00:58:53,240
Speaker 3: He wants to read.

1217
00:58:53,520 --> 00:58:54,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's all he said he want to do is read.

1218
00:58:55,040 --> 00:58:56,880
Speaker 3: He wants to read. He was able to salvage a

1219
00:58:56,920 --> 00:58:59,240
Speaker 3: couple of his books and he's like, I just want

1220
00:58:59,240 --> 00:59:00,520
Speaker 3: a lamp that I can read that night because I

1221
00:59:00,520 --> 00:59:01,720
Speaker 3: don't know when I'm going back to school.

1222
00:59:01,840 --> 00:59:04,040
Speaker 2: The biggest thing that people people need compassion.

1223
00:59:04,800 --> 00:59:07,480
Speaker 1: There's a fourteen year old kid who lost everything, has nothing,

1224
00:59:07,560 --> 00:59:09,880
Speaker 1: sends a text to k to say thank you first,

1225
00:59:10,280 --> 00:59:12,520
Speaker 1: and then doesn't ask for anything else but a lamp

1226
00:59:12,560 --> 00:59:13,200
Speaker 1: so he can read.

1227
00:59:13,560 --> 00:59:17,320
Speaker 2: People need compassion. That's that's what they need. That's that.

1228
00:59:17,440 --> 00:59:19,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, people need Compassion. Is hard.

1229
00:59:20,960 --> 00:59:23,160
Speaker 2: It's hard, all right, y'all.

1230
00:59:23,240 --> 00:59:25,160
Speaker 3: I think it's a break time. I need a little break, y'all.

1231
00:59:25,160 --> 00:59:25,600
Speaker 3: Need to break.

1232
00:59:26,000 --> 00:59:28,680
Speaker 1: I think I think we can wrap this one up

1233
00:59:28,800 --> 00:59:31,080
Speaker 1: like I don't think we can do a listen to

1234
00:59:31,160 --> 00:59:34,840
Speaker 1: letters for this, we gave out some really good info.

1235
00:59:36,240 --> 00:59:37,840
Speaker 1: I need to get something to drink because I feel

1236
00:59:37,840 --> 00:59:38,600
Speaker 1: like fighting everybody.

1237
00:59:39,000 --> 00:59:40,800
Speaker 7: Yeah, I was just gonna say, I have another moment,

1238
00:59:40,840 --> 00:59:43,040
Speaker 7: the truth. I keep telling y'all, I want to in

1239
00:59:43,120 --> 00:59:45,160
Speaker 7: the comments that I will beat y'all up.

1240
00:59:46,480 --> 00:59:47,560
Speaker 1: Especially over Condeen.

1241
00:59:47,640 --> 00:59:51,200
Speaker 2: I almost be developed Yes, Yes, Overdan.

1242
00:59:51,440 --> 00:59:53,000
Speaker 3: I don't keep playing with my girl.

1243
00:59:53,040 --> 00:59:54,880
Speaker 2: I'm gonna beat y'all ass.

1244
00:59:56,040 --> 00:59:56,320
Speaker 1: Again.

1245
00:59:56,880 --> 00:59:59,640
Speaker 3: Listen, you know, because I mean, I guess if people

1246
00:59:59,680 --> 01:00:01,640
Speaker 3: are really understood, just like the things that keep me

1247
01:00:01,720 --> 01:00:03,880
Speaker 3: up at night, because the things that keep you up

1248
01:00:03,920 --> 01:00:07,160
Speaker 3: at night, like for us, it's just about the human

1249
01:00:08,280 --> 01:00:09,320
Speaker 3: component of life.

1250
01:00:09,800 --> 01:00:13,480
Speaker 1: And we will remiss. Though for every two comments that's

1251
01:00:13,480 --> 01:00:16,400
Speaker 1: some bullshit, there's like five hundred comments of people who

1252
01:00:16,480 --> 01:00:17,560
Speaker 1: actually want to come.

1253
01:00:17,400 --> 01:00:17,800
Speaker 2: Out of them.

1254
01:00:18,000 --> 01:00:20,400
Speaker 1: That is important to all of you who support Yes,

1255
01:00:20,480 --> 01:00:23,760
Speaker 1: Eli supported Jamaica, support Cady who came out.

1256
01:00:24,160 --> 01:00:25,600
Speaker 2: He had a young lady who flew out.

1257
01:00:26,000 --> 01:00:27,360
Speaker 3: She flew from Ohio.

1258
01:00:27,480 --> 01:00:27,720
Speaker 4: Y'all.

1259
01:00:27,800 --> 01:00:30,120
Speaker 3: She's a fan of the show. I don't want to

1260
01:00:30,120 --> 01:00:34,200
Speaker 3: say fans. She's a supporter of us. Shout out to Tramaya.

1261
01:00:34,280 --> 01:00:37,360
Speaker 3: Her name is Tramia and she literally flew from Ohio,

1262
01:00:38,400 --> 01:00:43,680
Speaker 3: went to Crystal's panel Saturday morning, and then came to

1263
01:00:43,800 --> 01:00:46,600
Speaker 3: the donation drive on Sunday and spent the day with us.

1264
01:00:46,760 --> 01:00:48,880
Speaker 3: She actually connected with my mom first, and my mom

1265
01:00:48,960 --> 01:00:50,840
Speaker 3: was like, Kadeen, you have to talk to her. You

1266
01:00:50,880 --> 01:00:52,320
Speaker 3: have to talk to her. And she brought her right

1267
01:00:52,360 --> 01:00:54,640
Speaker 3: over to me and she's like, I'm from Ohio. Shout

1268
01:00:54,640 --> 01:00:57,880
Speaker 3: out to Tripa, like I'm from Ohio, and she's like,

1269
01:00:57,880 --> 01:01:00,320
Speaker 3: I just came into town to help. I said, game

1270
01:01:00,320 --> 01:01:03,919
Speaker 3: a sentence to help. I was like, to help what?

1271
01:01:04,240 --> 01:01:07,080
Speaker 3: And she was like, to help you guys. I said, baby,

1272
01:01:07,080 --> 01:01:09,600
Speaker 3: you caught a flight and this government shut down. You

1273
01:01:09,680 --> 01:01:12,480
Speaker 3: flew here to help. She said, well yeah, And I

1274
01:01:12,480 --> 01:01:14,800
Speaker 3: saw Crystal was going to be doing a panel with

1275
01:01:14,880 --> 01:01:17,440
Speaker 3: the American Black Film Festival, so I figured, like, I'll

1276
01:01:17,480 --> 01:01:19,680
Speaker 3: come support her and you guys at the same time.

1277
01:01:19,560 --> 01:01:24,080
Speaker 2: That it's not going to focus on just we ain't.

1278
01:01:23,840 --> 01:01:24,880
Speaker 3: Focused on the bad minds.

1279
01:01:26,360 --> 01:01:26,520
Speaker 8: You know.

1280
01:01:26,600 --> 01:01:33,000
Speaker 3: I definitely hit that one girl, because baby, when you

1281
01:01:33,040 --> 01:01:34,680
Speaker 3: told me about that in that moment, and y'all know,

1282
01:01:34,720 --> 01:01:37,920
Speaker 3: I don't reply to y'all and y'all negativity. But that

1283
01:01:38,200 --> 01:01:41,480
Speaker 3: I was like, baby, my friend is dying, Babe, my

1284
01:01:41,560 --> 01:01:44,160
Speaker 3: country is being blown away, Like what do you what

1285
01:01:44,200 --> 01:01:46,919
Speaker 3: do you mean? Y'all love our rhythm, but you don't

1286
01:01:46,920 --> 01:01:47,600
Speaker 3: love our blues.

1287
01:01:48,520 --> 01:01:51,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's my thing. I don't want to focus

1288
01:01:51,160 --> 01:01:54,040
Speaker 1: on the people because there's so many more positive people

1289
01:01:54,040 --> 01:01:55,280
Speaker 1: and we love appreciating.

1290
01:01:55,320 --> 01:01:57,560
Speaker 3: No, we appreciate y'all. Y'all keep us going, baby, you

1291
01:01:57,640 --> 01:01:59,960
Speaker 3: keep us going. Thank you so much, thank you so much.

1292
01:02:00,000 --> 01:02:01,800
Speaker 5: Because we didn't even talk about the tourists that was

1293
01:02:01,800 --> 01:02:03,800
Speaker 5: complaining when it was in Jamaica with the food it

1294
01:02:03,960 --> 01:02:06,320
Speaker 5: was getting, which was also crazy.

1295
01:02:06,360 --> 01:02:08,960
Speaker 1: But here's but here's a crazy part. There were some tourists,

1296
01:02:09,120 --> 01:02:09,440
Speaker 1: but there.

1297
01:02:09,480 --> 01:02:11,880
Speaker 4: Was so many mothers other people who were high.

1298
01:02:12,040 --> 01:02:16,240
Speaker 1: But it's like, focus on the negativity and it becomes

1299
01:02:16,280 --> 01:02:18,760
Speaker 1: the negativity becomes a story. So it's like, dang, there

1300
01:02:18,760 --> 01:02:21,520
Speaker 1: was two tourists complaining, but there was fifty five tourists

1301
01:02:21,520 --> 01:02:23,520
Speaker 1: sweeping and cleaning up bamboo.

1302
01:02:23,560 --> 01:02:26,160
Speaker 2: It's like, how about we focus on the majority.

1303
01:02:25,720 --> 01:02:27,600
Speaker 4: That didn't have to you know, they didn't have to.

1304
01:02:27,600 --> 01:02:30,320
Speaker 2: Right, It's like, let's focus on that.

1305
01:02:30,360 --> 01:02:32,480
Speaker 1: But you know why we don't because if we focus

1306
01:02:32,560 --> 01:02:37,080
Speaker 1: on the negativity, it gets sensationalized because we posted it's.

1307
01:02:36,360 --> 01:02:39,080
Speaker 3: Gonna get and then start putting people.

1308
01:02:39,360 --> 01:02:41,320
Speaker 1: I must say, it pends a diaspora against each other

1309
01:02:41,360 --> 01:02:44,480
Speaker 1: because Jamaican Americans are against Americans who.

1310
01:02:44,320 --> 01:02:45,880
Speaker 3: Against the Americans and Jamaicans.

1311
01:02:45,960 --> 01:02:48,360
Speaker 1: It's like, nah, we're not beefing. No, I'm not letting

1312
01:02:48,360 --> 01:02:50,720
Speaker 1: that happen. There's no no Jamaican and no American is

1313
01:02:50,720 --> 01:02:52,000
Speaker 1: going to beef over nothing like this.

1314
01:02:52,280 --> 01:02:54,440
Speaker 3: And for what I'm one person, people, and from what

1315
01:02:54,480 --> 01:02:56,760
Speaker 3: I understand some of the resources we're still charging people

1316
01:02:57,280 --> 01:02:59,800
Speaker 3: per night during the hurricane. My thing is it's probably

1317
01:02:59,800 --> 01:03:02,760
Speaker 3: not in the local Jamaican management. It's probably whoever, the owner,

1318
01:03:03,840 --> 01:03:06,160
Speaker 3: whoever that that European or that.

1319
01:03:08,000 --> 01:03:09,240
Speaker 4: I don't go to reuse anyway so.

1320
01:03:09,240 --> 01:03:12,760
Speaker 3: I can talk, right, That's part. That's who y'all need

1321
01:03:12,800 --> 01:03:15,000
Speaker 3: to be mad at, is them people up in corporate

1322
01:03:15,120 --> 01:03:16,440
Speaker 3: who are not in support of that.

1323
01:03:16,520 --> 01:03:18,240
Speaker 2: You know what you are, Absolutely, I'm glad you.

1324
01:03:18,440 --> 01:03:21,120
Speaker 1: I'm glad you actually brought that up, because sometimes the

1325
01:03:21,160 --> 01:03:23,560
Speaker 1: people who work at these resorts get the backlash from

1326
01:03:23,600 --> 01:03:26,000
Speaker 1: the people who visit, and you don't realize what the

1327
01:03:26,080 --> 01:03:29,680
Speaker 1: people resources don't set the precedent for what you're dealing with.

1328
01:03:29,760 --> 01:03:32,360
Speaker 2: There's a corporate person that probably lives in Spain.

1329
01:03:34,320 --> 01:03:36,160
Speaker 3: Have a boss, the boss has a boss, has a boss.

1330
01:03:36,640 --> 01:03:40,560
Speaker 1: Absolutely have compassion with each other. Americans, Jamaicans have compassion

1331
01:03:40,600 --> 01:03:41,040
Speaker 1: with each other.

1332
01:03:41,080 --> 01:03:43,680
Speaker 3: We need each other right right right? Oh my goodness,

1333
01:03:57,440 --> 01:04:00,840
Speaker 3: on my own the truth. Be kind. Shout out to

1334
01:04:00,880 --> 01:04:04,520
Speaker 3: my girl Alsion. I'm here doing the work. That's at

1335
01:04:04,600 --> 01:04:05,400
Speaker 3: least what I felt like.

1336
01:04:06,000 --> 01:04:06,840
Speaker 9: I felt that on Sundays.

1337
01:04:06,880 --> 01:04:08,800
Speaker 3: Well, on Sunday, I felt like that's what she would

1338
01:04:08,800 --> 01:04:10,560
Speaker 3: have been doing. She would have meeting the people, she'd

1339
01:04:10,600 --> 01:04:12,880
Speaker 3: have been hugging the people, she'd have been kissing the babies.

1340
01:04:13,200 --> 01:04:15,280
Speaker 3: And I just felt the spirit of her on Sunday.

1341
01:04:15,280 --> 01:04:16,600
Speaker 3: That got me through Sunday for sure.

1342
01:04:16,680 --> 01:04:18,680
Speaker 1: The last story you got to tell is about the

1343
01:04:18,800 --> 01:04:22,520
Speaker 1: Lady Bugs and also by Helena. And this is important

1344
01:04:22,560 --> 01:04:24,840
Speaker 1: to tell because I think we should wrap it up

1345
01:04:24,880 --> 01:04:27,600
Speaker 1: with this, okay, because it's just it's like a rainbow.

1346
01:04:27,640 --> 01:04:29,560
Speaker 1: But it also shows you like the beauty of people

1347
01:04:29,600 --> 01:04:32,480
Speaker 1: coming together and what being kind to people can create.

1348
01:04:32,720 --> 01:04:35,960
Speaker 3: Right, So there were so many like moments that I

1349
01:04:36,040 --> 01:04:37,560
Speaker 3: think about it. I even talk about the young lady

1350
01:04:37,560 --> 01:04:40,960
Speaker 3: that I met Matt who knew my grandmother. Yes, And

1351
01:04:41,240 --> 01:04:43,560
Speaker 3: she showed me picture, came with pictures of her and

1352
01:04:43,600 --> 01:04:46,280
Speaker 3: my grandmother and she's like, do you remember. So there's

1353
01:04:46,280 --> 01:04:48,520
Speaker 3: a young lady. Sorry, two quick stories before we go.

1354
01:04:49,000 --> 01:04:51,480
Speaker 3: This will be in place of listening letter. There's a

1355
01:04:51,520 --> 01:04:54,600
Speaker 3: young lady that came to the donation drive on Sunday.

1356
01:04:54,640 --> 01:04:57,640
Speaker 3: She had her three children with her. She said Kadi,

1357
01:04:57,760 --> 01:04:59,080
Speaker 3: and she be lined for me because I saw her

1358
01:04:59,120 --> 01:05:00,440
Speaker 3: like kind of getting out of her car. She be

1359
01:05:00,560 --> 01:05:03,240
Speaker 3: lyed for me and she's like, oh my god, thank god.

1360
01:05:03,560 --> 01:05:05,680
Speaker 3: I said, God, if I get to see Kadeen here,

1361
01:05:05,760 --> 01:05:08,360
Speaker 3: this was worth it. So I'm like, well, hey, what's up.

1362
01:05:08,440 --> 01:05:09,960
Speaker 3: Nice to meet you. And she just came in with

1363
01:05:10,000 --> 01:05:12,400
Speaker 3: her children and she said, I just had to come

1364
01:05:12,440 --> 01:05:14,080
Speaker 3: here because I wanted to see you. I have to

1365
01:05:14,120 --> 01:05:16,440
Speaker 3: show you something. And she shows me a picture of

1366
01:05:16,440 --> 01:05:19,600
Speaker 3: her and my grandmother hugged up together, and I was like,

1367
01:05:19,800 --> 01:05:21,640
Speaker 3: it's her screensaver on her phone. So I was like,

1368
01:05:21,960 --> 01:05:24,439
Speaker 3: wait a second. She's like, do you remember me? Said?

1369
01:05:24,440 --> 01:05:25,959
Speaker 3: I'm like, oh my god, girl, I meet so many people.

1370
01:05:26,000 --> 01:05:27,600
Speaker 3: I felt bad. I'm like, well, you know, my grandma,

1371
01:05:27,680 --> 01:05:29,439
Speaker 3: where did I meet you, She said, you didn't even

1372
01:05:29,440 --> 01:05:34,200
Speaker 3: meet me before. She said, your grandmother just took me

1373
01:05:34,280 --> 01:05:36,320
Speaker 3: under her wing when she was alive, which my grandmother

1374
01:05:36,320 --> 01:05:39,600
Speaker 3: did to everybody's kids, right again the spirit of Jamaica.

1375
01:05:39,960 --> 01:05:43,120
Speaker 3: She said, I was in a relationship. It wasn't a

1376
01:05:43,120 --> 01:05:46,440
Speaker 3: good relationship. I ended up pregnant, was a single mom, struggling,

1377
01:05:47,040 --> 01:05:49,320
Speaker 3: didn't have anything, had to start from scratch. Your grandmother

1378
01:05:49,360 --> 01:05:51,800
Speaker 3: would encourage me to get my education so I can

1379
01:05:51,840 --> 01:05:54,560
Speaker 3: get a job and take care of my baby. Your

1380
01:05:54,560 --> 01:05:56,479
Speaker 3: grandmother said she was going to reach out to you

1381
01:05:56,840 --> 01:05:59,840
Speaker 3: because you need. She needed baby clothes, so I had

1382
01:05:59,840 --> 01:06:02,000
Speaker 3: had I forget which kid it was when I did

1383
01:06:02,040 --> 01:06:04,400
Speaker 3: the calculation, I think it was Cairo or kaz and

1384
01:06:04,440 --> 01:06:05,760
Speaker 3: she didn't know she was having a boy or girl.

1385
01:06:05,840 --> 01:06:08,240
Speaker 3: My grandmother was like it, Namata, put the baby in whatever,

1386
01:06:08,280 --> 01:06:10,000
Speaker 3: It doesn't matter what color it is, just send whatever

1387
01:06:10,040 --> 01:06:13,000
Speaker 3: you have. So I had sent over some baby clothes,

1388
01:06:13,040 --> 01:06:15,840
Speaker 3: newborn stuff. I packed up a big boxer and I said, Grandma,

1389
01:06:15,880 --> 01:06:17,080
Speaker 3: whant to send her to your house. Get it to

1390
01:06:17,160 --> 01:06:19,760
Speaker 3: your friend. So the girl through. Grandma had said thank

1391
01:06:19,760 --> 01:06:21,800
Speaker 3: you so much for everything. When I found out she

1392
01:06:21,840 --> 01:06:23,360
Speaker 3: had a girl, I said oh, it's a girl. I

1393
01:06:23,400 --> 01:06:25,320
Speaker 3: sent her all this boy clothes. So I went to

1394
01:06:25,360 --> 01:06:26,880
Speaker 3: Walmart one day and I got a bunch of like

1395
01:06:27,040 --> 01:06:29,080
Speaker 3: little baby girl clothes, right, and I sent it to

1396
01:06:29,080 --> 01:06:30,480
Speaker 3: my grandmother. I said, give it to her so she

1397
01:06:30,480 --> 01:06:32,320
Speaker 3: could put the girl in a dress or something whatever,

1398
01:06:32,400 --> 01:06:35,160
Speaker 3: you know. So she was like, I'm the girl you helped.

1399
01:06:35,320 --> 01:06:36,720
Speaker 3: Oh my god, and this is the baby.

1400
01:06:36,760 --> 01:06:39,920
Speaker 1: Wow, and she's like nine years old.

1401
01:06:39,440 --> 01:06:40,880
Speaker 4: It was Kiro.

1402
01:06:41,840 --> 01:06:43,920
Speaker 3: She's nine years old because Kiro.

1403
01:06:43,880 --> 01:06:46,400
Speaker 1: Clothes because we just got kaves again. Remember Caz came

1404
01:06:46,480 --> 01:06:47,000
Speaker 1: right after.

1405
01:06:46,960 --> 01:06:48,480
Speaker 3: Right, and I wasn't sure. I was convinced I was

1406
01:06:48,520 --> 01:06:50,360
Speaker 3: having a girl with Caz. So I was like, oh,

1407
01:06:50,400 --> 01:06:53,040
Speaker 3: I can just get rid of all this boy clothes, right,

1408
01:06:53,120 --> 01:06:54,600
Speaker 3: And I was like it's fine. I was like, I

1409
01:06:55,520 --> 01:06:56,920
Speaker 3: was like, it's fine, I could buy new clothes. But

1410
01:06:56,960 --> 01:06:58,440
Speaker 3: she showed me. She said, this is the baby that

1411
01:06:58,520 --> 01:07:00,800
Speaker 3: you helped. And she said, your grandma there encouraged me

1412
01:07:00,840 --> 01:07:03,280
Speaker 3: to finish my education and now I have a job

1413
01:07:03,320 --> 01:07:05,640
Speaker 3: and I'm working. I was able to move here with

1414
01:07:05,680 --> 01:07:07,920
Speaker 3: my children. And she said I just had to come

1415
01:07:07,920 --> 01:07:10,440
Speaker 3: here to thank you in person for that. And I

1416
01:07:10,520 --> 01:07:13,200
Speaker 3: was like, so I think Patreon Gang you're gonna see

1417
01:07:13,200 --> 01:07:15,800
Speaker 3: that because Matt caught the interaction when we were there.

1418
01:07:16,600 --> 01:07:19,480
Speaker 3: But to close out about Alcon, so Helena, she's that

1419
01:07:19,600 --> 01:07:22,920
Speaker 3: nurse can cook on Instagram. Really good friend of ours

1420
01:07:22,960 --> 01:07:25,880
Speaker 3: through Dola, you know Helena. Yes, yeah, shout out Helena

1421
01:07:26,240 --> 01:07:27,720
Speaker 3: and then went to the gang.

1422
01:07:27,920 --> 01:07:28,120
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1423
01:07:28,200 --> 01:07:31,000
Speaker 3: Went to school with Devalo Junior High School and Madison.

1424
01:07:32,120 --> 01:07:34,880
Speaker 3: So we didn't really connect until like really social media

1425
01:07:34,960 --> 01:07:37,320
Speaker 3: because I hadn't really known the connection until Dola was like,

1426
01:07:37,320 --> 01:07:40,520
Speaker 3: that's my homegirl, my good friend. So Helena was also

1427
01:07:40,640 --> 01:07:44,720
Speaker 3: very close to Alcon and they had their own special

1428
01:07:44,720 --> 01:07:47,720
Speaker 3: relationship as well. So the moment we would get updates

1429
01:07:47,720 --> 01:07:49,320
Speaker 3: and stuff, we would talk to each other and just

1430
01:07:49,440 --> 01:07:52,720
Speaker 3: be in support of her. So I called Helena that

1431
01:07:52,760 --> 01:07:55,240
Speaker 3: Saturday morning when I got the news because I wasn't

1432
01:07:55,280 --> 01:07:57,560
Speaker 3: sure who was going to say anything yet, and I

1433
01:07:57,560 --> 01:07:59,680
Speaker 3: didn't want her to find out on social media because

1434
01:07:59,680 --> 01:08:01,200
Speaker 3: I know I would have been devastated if I found

1435
01:08:01,200 --> 01:08:03,280
Speaker 3: out on social media, for no other reason that there's

1436
01:08:03,280 --> 01:08:05,000
Speaker 3: so many people who know and love her. If the

1437
01:08:05,040 --> 01:08:06,960
Speaker 3: word got out and I found out on social media,

1438
01:08:06,960 --> 01:08:08,880
Speaker 3: I probably would have been devastated. So I called Helena

1439
01:08:08,960 --> 01:08:10,840
Speaker 3: that morning, and I told her we had a good

1440
01:08:10,840 --> 01:08:13,120
Speaker 3: old cry together on the phone, and we started talking

1441
01:08:13,120 --> 01:08:16,080
Speaker 3: about stories about her and her husband. Greg made a

1442
01:08:16,160 --> 01:08:18,960
Speaker 3: joke and said, Alcid's probably up there in heaven trying

1443
01:08:19,000 --> 01:08:22,880
Speaker 3: to recruit people to become Jamaica citizens. That's just started.

1444
01:08:22,880 --> 01:08:24,680
Speaker 3: She'd be like, do you know Jamaica, you should be

1445
01:08:24,680 --> 01:08:26,800
Speaker 3: a citizen. Come let me sign you up. Jesus he's

1446
01:08:26,840 --> 01:08:30,639
Speaker 3: come here here Jamaica. God is from Jamaica.

1447
01:08:30,720 --> 01:08:31,200
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1448
01:08:31,280 --> 01:08:34,280
Speaker 3: So so Helene and I we've been talking actually every

1449
01:08:34,360 --> 01:08:36,760
Speaker 3: day since she's passed, just as a comfort because we

1450
01:08:36,840 --> 01:08:40,240
Speaker 3: understand right the connection. So I saw Helena post the

1451
01:08:40,280 --> 01:08:43,680
Speaker 3: Instagram story with a ladybug that jumped onto her arm

1452
01:08:43,760 --> 01:08:45,080
Speaker 3: and her and her daughter was like, oh, look at

1453
01:08:45,080 --> 01:08:47,160
Speaker 3: the ladybug. And she put a picture up of Alcion

1454
01:08:47,240 --> 01:08:50,320
Speaker 3: and said, Alcian, I see you and this lady bug.

1455
01:08:50,960 --> 01:08:53,120
Speaker 3: I said, yo, oh my god.

1456
01:08:53,240 --> 01:08:57,640
Speaker 1: This earlier that day, mm hmm. Ky comes down to

1457
01:08:57,720 --> 01:09:00,720
Speaker 1: me and says, Deval, guess what I just seen upstairs

1458
01:09:00,840 --> 01:09:04,680
Speaker 1: and Kaz is inside Kaz's window. I said, what, she

1459
01:09:04,760 --> 01:09:08,280
Speaker 1: goes a ladybug, it's got to be outsy on. So

1460
01:09:08,360 --> 01:09:10,680
Speaker 1: then on in the day when she shows me the

1461
01:09:10,720 --> 01:09:13,439
Speaker 1: post from Helena. I'm like, you know what this?

1462
01:09:13,439 --> 01:09:14,679
Speaker 3: This was on Saturday Saturday.

1463
01:09:14,720 --> 01:09:16,719
Speaker 2: Bro, this was on Saturday Saturday.

1464
01:09:16,760 --> 01:09:18,439
Speaker 9: I'm getting in the car going into the colda bardy.

1465
01:09:18,479 --> 01:09:20,679
Speaker 9: My eyes are literally watering up. There was a ladybug

1466
01:09:20,720 --> 01:09:21,559
Speaker 9: sitting on me in the car.

1467
01:09:21,680 --> 01:09:21,920
Speaker 4: Wow.

1468
01:09:22,040 --> 01:09:22,720
Speaker 7: Wow.

1469
01:09:23,400 --> 01:09:24,680
Speaker 9: And I turned to christ and I was like, look

1470
01:09:24,680 --> 01:09:26,719
Speaker 9: at the ladybug. And I just took it off outside.

1471
01:09:26,760 --> 01:09:28,040
Speaker 2: You see how this is happening?

1472
01:09:28,320 --> 01:09:30,320
Speaker 1: Do you see how this we when's the last time

1473
01:09:30,320 --> 01:09:32,080
Speaker 1: we seen a lady bug in this house?

1474
01:09:32,920 --> 01:09:36,160
Speaker 3: That's crazy? And the way kaz Is window was, I

1475
01:09:36,280 --> 01:09:38,559
Speaker 3: literally that I had gotten off the phone with Elena

1476
01:09:38,600 --> 01:09:40,880
Speaker 3: and I was already emotional, and Kaz looked at me

1477
01:09:40,920 --> 01:09:43,040
Speaker 3: and he was like, yokay, mom, and I'm like, yeah,

1478
01:09:43,080 --> 01:09:44,800
Speaker 3: I'm fine. We gotta get ready for Coda's birthday party

1479
01:09:44,800 --> 01:09:46,920
Speaker 3: because I'm literally trying to like get everybody up and

1480
01:09:46,960 --> 01:09:49,879
Speaker 3: move in. His room was hot. I opened the window

1481
01:09:50,120 --> 01:09:52,519
Speaker 3: and in between the screen and the glass part, I'm like,

1482
01:09:52,520 --> 01:09:54,040
Speaker 3: how did this get in here? Like I don't even

1483
01:09:54,080 --> 01:09:56,760
Speaker 3: know how the ladybug got in there, but it was there.

1484
01:09:56,760 --> 01:09:58,080
Speaker 3: And I was like, oh, look at the ladybugs. So

1485
01:09:58,080 --> 01:09:59,320
Speaker 3: I picked it up and I'm like, loo, Kaz, it's

1486
01:09:59,320 --> 01:10:03,360
Speaker 3: a ladybug, and I'll like, we would call her lady Alon.

1487
01:10:03,400 --> 01:10:06,160
Speaker 3: I'm like, look at that. And then I saw Helena's

1488
01:10:06,160 --> 01:10:09,639
Speaker 3: story and now Matt's talking about it. That's crazy. That's crazy.

1489
01:10:10,240 --> 01:10:12,080
Speaker 3: So thank you for the little signs. I hope that

1490
01:10:12,120 --> 01:10:14,240
Speaker 3: she visits me in my dreams.

1491
01:10:14,400 --> 01:10:17,280
Speaker 1: Well, every time you see a lady bug, just know.

1492
01:10:17,280 --> 01:10:21,040
Speaker 3: That that's my sincere condolences to her family. Her husband

1493
01:10:21,160 --> 01:10:26,479
Speaker 3: Omar has not left her side at all ever, Vanessa,

1494
01:10:27,439 --> 01:10:30,200
Speaker 3: Brian Patrick Sean, I mean all of you, every.

1495
01:10:31,320 --> 01:10:36,719
Speaker 1: Loss about love not existing no more. This man carried

1496
01:10:37,200 --> 01:10:41,240
Speaker 1: al seon to the bathroom in his arms, like yes,

1497
01:10:41,360 --> 01:10:43,920
Speaker 1: every single time she had to go for the past

1498
01:10:43,960 --> 01:10:45,000
Speaker 1: what three.

1499
01:10:44,840 --> 01:10:47,000
Speaker 3: Probably as long as she as she needed, I'm not

1500
01:10:47,000 --> 01:10:47,599
Speaker 3: sure how long.

1501
01:10:47,680 --> 01:10:50,400
Speaker 1: But that's love, Like people don't like, we don't even

1502
01:10:50,400 --> 01:10:52,120
Speaker 1: really get a chance to see what love looks like

1503
01:10:52,120 --> 01:10:54,639
Speaker 1: because people don't show these things. But on the Internet

1504
01:10:54,680 --> 01:10:56,519
Speaker 1: we'll get on and show other things and it's like

1505
01:10:56,560 --> 01:10:58,080
Speaker 1: love is really happening out there, y'all.

1506
01:10:58,080 --> 01:10:59,679
Speaker 3: I want you to know that in real life.

1507
01:10:59,600 --> 01:11:01,680
Speaker 9: It was like that even when she was on.

1508
01:11:01,800 --> 01:11:03,280
Speaker 4: When we were because she was there.

1509
01:11:03,439 --> 01:11:05,200
Speaker 9: Yeah, I think he was there, right on the sides.

1510
01:11:05,640 --> 01:11:09,479
Speaker 3: Literally, when she want someone, he's there, ready to go.

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01:11:09,560 --> 01:11:13,480
Speaker 3: But you saw that too, Yeah, yeah, for the fullest. Absolutely,

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Speaker 3: I'm happy I was able to celebrate with them their

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Speaker 3: anniversary down there. Yeah, we gotta run back that episode.

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Speaker 3: That was a good episode, the Diaspara conference. But yeah, well,

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01:11:21,560 --> 01:11:23,479
Speaker 3: thank you all for the positivity, those of you who

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Speaker 3: sent it. The prayers for Jamaica, prayers for America, prayers

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Speaker 3: for this world, y'all.

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Speaker 9: Real quick before we close out, just think about it now.

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Speaker 9: I'm going to open up a few prints on my

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Speaker 9: print shop and all donations all proceeds will go to

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Speaker 9: donations to Jamaica as well as Cuba, because Cuba was

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Speaker 9: affected as well, and I've been to Cuba, so I

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Speaker 9: want to at least send something there that would be Dopepe.

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Speaker 4: Glad you said that, Matt.

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Speaker 5: So On December sixth, I opened up an additional day

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Speaker 5: for my Holliday minis and fifty percent of proceeds that

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Speaker 5: I generate from that opening will go to Jamaica relief.

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Speaker 3: Dope, Josh, I appreciate it, man, all these internal fundraisings.

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Speaker 3: I love that love Jamaica gonna be oh absolutely, because

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Speaker 3: we have to take trible back. We have to take

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Speaker 3: triple back. We've been talking about this, Jamaica.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna we're gonna go back and it's gonna be nice.

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Speaker 3: It's gonna be nice. We'll be right back like it

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Speaker 3: never happened. I love y'all, Jamaica, Love you, Jamaica, Jamaica.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I said, smile girls.

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Speaker 3: Smile, yes, a good one. Smile with me. Yes, never

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Speaker 3: you cry here? Am I all right, y'all? Thank you

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01:12:32,960 --> 01:12:35,719
Speaker 3: for listening today. Be sure to find us on Patreon

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Speaker 3: well as Ellis Family content, and you can find us

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Speaker 3: on social media at Ellis ever After Podcast. I'm Kadine,

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Speaker 3: I am and I.

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01:12:49,240 --> 01:12:52,880
Speaker 5: Am Daval, I'm Underscore Ellis and I'm Joshua Underscored Dwayne

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Speaker 5: and my mom in the Truth because we didn't get

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01:12:54,400 --> 01:12:57,280
Speaker 5: to do it Tech get beam onto your own I before,

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Speaker 5: I'm at.

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Speaker 3: Dribs, The Cool on Everything, t R I B b

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Speaker 3: Z The Cool.

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Speaker 2: Every time Josh does a Jamaica Access.

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Speaker 3: Making Week, it's a text message that Josh sent us.

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Speaker 7: God Ellis ever After is an iHeartMedia podcast. It's hosted

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Speaker 7: by Kadeen and daval Ellis. It's produced by Triple Video,

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Speaker 7: Production by Joshua Dwaane and Matthew Ellis, video editing by

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Speaker 7: Lashan Rowe.