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Speaker 1: And now move the sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks.

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Speaker 1: What's up everybody walking? We moved to sticks DJ Bucky.

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Speaker 1: I guess we'll call this a bonus episode.

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Speaker 2: Buck. We were a bonus five.

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Speaker 1: We weren't even gonna have one. We have the conference call.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna come out tomorrow, I think. So this is

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Speaker 1: number four for the week. So it's draft time. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna give a little Christmas present. It's our Christmas. Here's

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Speaker 2: Here. Look, it's a big week.

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Speaker 3: We have a big week ahead, and so at a

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Speaker 3: lot this is always a fascinating time because you have

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Speaker 2: Study long, study wrong. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Sometimes the more you think about it, the more you

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Speaker 3: it started. Trust your process, trust what your eyes told

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Speaker 2: More times than not, you gona end up being okay.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, My college philosophy was study some study. None, So

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Speaker 2: I know what that is.

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Speaker 1: It's amazing, by the way, you could just show up

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Speaker 4: All right.

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Speaker 1: Today we're gonna talk to will Anderson Edge Rusher premiere

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Speaker 1: on the top right, Yes, yes, he's there.

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Speaker 2: He hasn't changed. He's number one for me.

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Speaker 1: Yep, he's number one for me as well. So we're

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Speaker 1: of that, which is always good. Hey, we're here, we're uh,

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Speaker 1: we're opportunistic, we're capitalists.

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Speaker 3: Up, We're good because I would think I think we

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Speaker 2: Mary at later. But I would like to think you should.

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Speaker 2: You should be a lifer now.

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Speaker 3: You should be like titaning him for life, because I'm

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Speaker 2: You've had enough views on the road to be.

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Speaker 1: We've known each other for twenty something years. Never have

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Speaker 1: I was just thinking this year, man, you should be

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Speaker 1: able to get everything, like like, yes, we've got him banked.

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Speaker 1: I don't know why I'm gonna spend them, but they're banked.

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Speaker 1: I always love that. There's always we're gonna get to

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Speaker 2: A little bit there. Right now, what happened? Here's your

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Speaker 1: Yeah, here's your key to the cuss of years louds.

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Speaker 1: Would you like your points? Would you like breakfast? And

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Speaker 1: All right, but I'm excited to have Will Anderson joining

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Speaker 5: It is indeed, it has been a long process, but

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Speaker 5: it's been worth it. It's been worth it, you know.

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Speaker 3: And thinking about that, because the process, you should be

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Speaker 3: How has the stuff that you've learned from Nick Saban

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Speaker 3: Will It's so interesting that you talked about you're big

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Speaker 3: Who are some of the guys that you've either padd

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Speaker 5: Yeah, So for me, I like watching like Khalil Matck,

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Speaker 1: You're fun to watch, man, And to me, one of

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Speaker 1: Well, I want you to know you're talking to two

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Speaker 1: I got some free sweet nights. I need to cash

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Speaker 1: That's what I'm talking about. All right, last thing, serious question.

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Speaker 4: Thank y'all for having me. Have a nice day.

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Speaker 2: And so to me, if you're the Eagles, you just

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Speaker 2: You have to deal with them in AFC as well.

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Speaker 2: Maybe I get a bigger.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you have to have juice, and so the juice

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Speaker 3: opportunity for them to find a young guy that can

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Speaker 3: eventually be his replacement, not necessarily in the first round,

439
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Speaker 3: but a high end running back that maybe you're taking

440
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Speaker 3: the second round to give them an opportunity. But whatever

441
00:17:39,040 --> 00:17:41,159
Speaker 3: it is, this has to be about making sure they

442
00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:44,040
Speaker 3: support Danny Dimes. You paid him the money, so now

443
00:17:44,080 --> 00:17:45,639
Speaker 3: you've got to make sure that you can help him

444
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Speaker 3: elevate his game with the personnel a round.

445
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Speaker 1: You know, I say weapon and you know when you

446
00:17:49,760 --> 00:17:52,200
Speaker 1: really look at it. I'm going through all their names here,

447
00:17:52,400 --> 00:17:55,119
Speaker 1: Isaiah Hodgens flash last year as a big receiver. You

448
00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:57,600
Speaker 1: bring over Paris Campbell, who can run, just has been healthy.

449
00:17:58,080 --> 00:18:00,160
Speaker 1: One Dale Robinson has shown us some good things again,

450
00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:03,840
Speaker 1: little undersize Crowder undersized, good player, Slayton can get down

451
00:18:03,880 --> 00:18:07,080
Speaker 1: the field, Sterling Shepherd's been solid. Like it's a lot

452
00:18:07,160 --> 00:18:09,200
Speaker 1: of names that they have there now, I don't think

453
00:18:09,240 --> 00:18:12,600
Speaker 1: there's a number one in that crowd. So and this

454
00:18:12,760 --> 00:18:14,560
Speaker 1: is an interesting conversation and wait, we won't go too

455
00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:17,160
Speaker 1: deep on this, but that they can line up and play,

456
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Speaker 1: that's going to be a better group than what they

457
00:18:18,359 --> 00:18:20,760
Speaker 1: played with last year, no question. I would say if

458
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Speaker 1: you were looking for somebody that's different than kind of

459
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Speaker 1: what they have, I mean, we're both kind of we've

460
00:18:27,040 --> 00:18:28,879
Speaker 1: both been up and down a little bit on Quentin Johnson.

461
00:18:28,960 --> 00:18:30,920
Speaker 1: But if you're looking at him saying, okay, this gives

462
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Speaker 1: him a big, fast.

463
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Speaker 3: Guy, Well, I mean that's the one thing, because I

464
00:18:33,840 --> 00:18:35,680
Speaker 3: think Isaiah Hodskins he's.

465
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Speaker 1: Huge, he's six three almost, but you can't run like that.

466
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Speaker 3: Yeah, But the rest of the guys that they have

467
00:18:40,840 --> 00:18:43,880
Speaker 3: are more on the smaller sides, and so you want

468
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Speaker 3: to expand the strike zone for Danny Dams. So that

469
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Speaker 3: is a good pick. And it might be someone maybe

470
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Speaker 3: we talked about Cedgik Tielman. Maybe in a second round,

471
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Speaker 3: somebody that's bigger that can expand it. They can play

472
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Speaker 3: like that physical brand of ball that you might need

473
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Speaker 3: from one of your playmakers on the outside.

474
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Speaker 2: It'll be interesting see what they do.

475
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it'll be interesting to see what direction they go.

476
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Speaker 1: Let's go to the commanders here. They are picking sixteen,

477
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Speaker 1: forty seven, ninety seven. This is a team obviously, the

478
00:19:09,040 --> 00:19:12,160
Speaker 1: quarterback situation, it looks like they're committed right now. They're

479
00:19:12,200 --> 00:19:14,760
Speaker 1: at least going to give every opportunity in the world

480
00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:17,440
Speaker 1: to be able to come out there and play. So

481
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Speaker 1: to me, are you buying that? By the way, I

482
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Speaker 1: guess I have to.

483
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Speaker 3: I mean, is weird that they're so brought in because

484
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Speaker 3: and I loved him how him being a former Tario

485
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Speaker 3: or a Tar heo. He he's a fifth round pick though,

486
00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:35,280
Speaker 3: and he played one game. Yeah, and so I understand

487
00:19:35,640 --> 00:19:38,240
Speaker 3: the San Francisco forty nine ers fascination. We brought Perdy

488
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Speaker 3: because you saw it over. I mean, he's still a

489
00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:41,920
Speaker 3: small sample size, but you saw multiple games. So I'm

490
00:19:41,960 --> 00:19:44,560
Speaker 3: doing in different situations. With Sam Howell, we're talking about

491
00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:46,879
Speaker 3: like one and done, one and done, and he's the

492
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Speaker 3: starting quarterback. Yes, you backstopped him, whicha Cobys said. But

493
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Speaker 3: are we comfortable going into the season with that, particularly

494
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Speaker 3: knowing that there's an ownership change and everyone is coaching

495
00:19:58,080 --> 00:20:01,680
Speaker 3: for their their their their coaching lot in Washington. I

496
00:20:01,720 --> 00:20:03,880
Speaker 3: don't know, man, I think you have to at least

497
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Speaker 3: consider it if there's a quarterback that falls within range.

498
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Speaker 1: So I'm going to ask you a very specific question

499
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Speaker 1: here pick sixteen, Ron Rivera Carolina Panthers background. You have

500
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Speaker 1: that same background. If they're going to take a corner

501
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Speaker 1: at pick number sixteen, who fits Ron Rivera there at

502
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Speaker 1: that spot.

503
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Speaker 2: I've said this all. We got Joey Porter Junior. That's

504
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Speaker 2: what he strikes it.

505
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Speaker 3: He reminds me a lot of Josh Norman in terms

506
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Speaker 3: of the way Josh Norman played at Carolina. Can bump,

507
00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:34,400
Speaker 3: can play off, can play man, can play zone. Wasn't

508
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Speaker 3: the most fluid athlete. That's kind of what Joey Porter

509
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Speaker 3: Junior is. But he's longed, and he's competitive and feisty.

510
00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:43,280
Speaker 3: To me, he is the perfect fit for how the

511
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Speaker 3: Commanders want.

512
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Speaker 2: To play on the outside.

513
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I love getting that from you. I'm gonna I

514
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Speaker 1: promise I will properly attribute that when he gets when

515
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Speaker 1: he gets picked properly because you have been singing that tune.

516
00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:53,240
Speaker 1: But I think it's helpful to know kind of what

517
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Speaker 1: their type is. Let's go to the Vikings. Let's get

518
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Speaker 1: the NFC North Vikings are picking twenty three and eighty seven.

519
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Speaker 1: This is an offense line. Last year, didn't really run

520
00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:03,880
Speaker 1: the ball very well, tied for twenty seven. Defensively, though

521
00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:07,119
Speaker 1: they were thirty first against the pass. They add Marcus Davenport.

522
00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:09,000
Speaker 1: They add Byron Murphy, so you had a pass rusher,

523
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Speaker 1: you had a corner. Some losses obviously Thilan Irvsmith, the

524
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Speaker 1: tight end, Patrick Peters in the corner, Eric Hendricks. I

525
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Speaker 1: think is actually a pretty big loss for them in

526
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Speaker 1: the linebacker position, considering there's not a lot in this draft. No,

527
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Speaker 1: so what do you think they're going here? Pick number

528
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Speaker 1: twenty three, and then again, they're not picking again until

529
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Speaker 1: eighty seven, which needs to be reminded to folks. If

530
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Speaker 1: the Vikings are going to be a team that we've

531
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Speaker 1: pegged this potentially a quarterback team, they're missing a key

532
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Speaker 1: asset and a second round pick to go up.

533
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Speaker 3: Yeah, they are missing a key asset, and so quarterback

534
00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:40,359
Speaker 3: would be in play. If one of the quarterbacks are

535
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Speaker 3: available at twenty three, I think you have to consider it.

536
00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:44,960
Speaker 3: Kirk Cousins is in the last year of that deal

537
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Speaker 3: that is fully guaranteed.

538
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Speaker 2: So that's the part.

539
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Speaker 3: But the other part of me, if I'm Kevin O'Connell,

540
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Speaker 3: I'm looking at what Justin Jefferson is able to do,

541
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Speaker 3: and Adam Stealand has kind of been banged up, and

542
00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:55,399
Speaker 3: they've been able to get away with some of the

543
00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:58,119
Speaker 3: other guys that are playing. But is this an opportunity

544
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Speaker 3: to go and enhance what you have at wide receiver,

545
00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:06,080
Speaker 3: put another route runner opposite of Justin Jefferson, and now

546
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Speaker 3: play the kind of ball that you have to play.

547
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Speaker 3: Because let's be on I don't know if they can

548
00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:11,760
Speaker 3: fix their defense in one offseason, but what I do though,

549
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Speaker 3: offensively that office was good enough to get them to

550
00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:17,840
Speaker 3: the postseason, and so let's continue to add upon that

551
00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:21,280
Speaker 3: while we're working to fix that. And remember Brian Floores

552
00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:23,480
Speaker 3: is coming in because it's going to be a more aggressive,

553
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Speaker 3: a physical, nasty defense that really tries to specialize in

554
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Speaker 3: making turnovers. So if I have that in my back

555
00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:34,080
Speaker 3: in my background supporting me, I'm gonna be really aggressive

556
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Speaker 3: on office. I would look for an offensive playmaker to

557
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Speaker 3: be a pick.

558
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Speaker 1: Yeah, to me, I Jordan Addison being there just makes

559
00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:41,200
Speaker 1: too much sense. I think he would fit beautifully. He's

560
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Speaker 1: that you know, if you look at Robert Woods playing

561
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Speaker 1: in this offense having some success, I think he can

562
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Speaker 1: play in that type of spot two route runners.

563
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Speaker 2: We've seen it. I mean we saw it with Robert

564
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Speaker 2: Woods and Cooper Cup.

565
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Speaker 3: Like whatever you do in this office, if you have

566
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Speaker 3: multiple route runers, you have an opportunity to create a

567
00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:56,600
Speaker 3: lot of big plays.

568
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Speaker 1: All Right. The Detroit Lions, I think the most intriguing

569
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Speaker 1: team in this draft. They picked six, They pick eighteen

570
00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:03,200
Speaker 1: and forty eight fifty five, and that is they have

571
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Speaker 1: four of the top fifty five picks. They are set up,

572
00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:07,880
Speaker 1: and to me, when you look at what they've done

573
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Speaker 1: in the off season, they add David Montgomery, they add

574
00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:13,879
Speaker 1: Marvin Jones, bring him back, Cam Sutton and CJ. Gardner.

575
00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:17,240
Speaker 1: Johnson throw them into the secondary mix. Obviously moved on

576
00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:20,080
Speaker 1: from Akuda with that trade with Atlanta. So this is

577
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Speaker 1: a defense. Last year Buck twenty ninth against the run, thirtieth,

578
00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:26,080
Speaker 1: against the pass, thirtieth and third down. So to me,

579
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Speaker 1: the way you can solve a lot of those problems

580
00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:29,720
Speaker 1: is you get somebody that helps you on third down.

581
00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:31,520
Speaker 1: Yeahs your pass defense is gonna get a lot better.

582
00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:33,280
Speaker 2: If you're good on third down. Yeah, your pass defense

583
00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:34,200
Speaker 2: is going to get a lot better.

584
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Speaker 3: So you think about pass rusher early, you think about

585
00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:39,160
Speaker 3: inside or outside a pass rusher, thinking about cornerback being

586
00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:42,200
Speaker 3: able to do it, and listening to Brad Holmes talk

587
00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:43,480
Speaker 3: at this press you talked about we win in a

588
00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:45,159
Speaker 3: good situation where we have flexibility to be able to

589
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Speaker 3: do anything. I will put this because I'll put an

590
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Speaker 3: ask you by it. If there's something crazy that happens

591
00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:52,720
Speaker 3: at quarterback where CJ. Stroud is sitting there at six,

592
00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:56,080
Speaker 3: if you're the Detroit Lions, it might be a great

593
00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:59,040
Speaker 3: opportunity to get your quarterback of the future because it's

594
00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:01,080
Speaker 3: really a luxury item. You don't expect him to be there,

595
00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:02,600
Speaker 3: but if he's there six, I think you have to

596
00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:06,960
Speaker 3: at least have serious conversations about is this a chance

597
00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:08,800
Speaker 3: for us to take a guy that we have the

598
00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:10,880
Speaker 3: luxury of being able to sit him behind Jerry Goff

599
00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:11,919
Speaker 3: who's playing well for us.

600
00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:14,240
Speaker 1: Similar types you know, play style, but.

601
00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:16,920
Speaker 3: But we can we can play the long game and

602
00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:20,600
Speaker 3: having a QB one in the holster waiting to develop.

603
00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:23,680
Speaker 1: I'm with you. They are in position to do some

604
00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:25,440
Speaker 1: damage in this draft, by the way, and I would

605
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Speaker 1: be shocked. I'ld be shocked if they don't turn one

606
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Speaker 1: of these four picks in the top fifty five into

607
00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:34,720
Speaker 1: an asset next year. Oh, you should, you should. We

608
00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:35,880
Speaker 1: want extra picks every year.

609
00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:37,840
Speaker 3: You always, you always, you always want to be in

610
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Speaker 3: a position of power. Also, next year we talk about

611
00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:42,760
Speaker 3: the quarterback class, we talk about those guys who could

612
00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:44,640
Speaker 3: be in. You always want multiple picks in the first

613
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Speaker 3: round because it gives you an opportunity to get in

614
00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:48,120
Speaker 3: that mix if you ever need.

615
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Speaker 1: A quarter I think there's certain years where you could say, okay,

616
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Speaker 1: let's cash in all the chips. Last year was a

617
00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:56,160
Speaker 1: was a draft that matched up with the Jets needs.

618
00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:58,320
Speaker 1: So they went back in and they said, we're going

619
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Speaker 1: to go all in on these top four guys in

620
00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:02,280
Speaker 1: that draft matched up and they hit it out of

621
00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:04,520
Speaker 1: the park. I don't know if this draft is like

622
00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:06,200
Speaker 1: that for Detroit. I'd be trying to get some extra

623
00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:06,800
Speaker 1: picks next year.

624
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Speaker 3: Yeah, because I think this disdraft, and we've talked about it,

625
00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:11,920
Speaker 3: like smaller number of blue chip prospects, large number of

626
00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:14,760
Speaker 3: very good prospects. But if you have an opportunity to

627
00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:18,240
Speaker 3: dig into a deeper, more talented draft pool, hey, let's

628
00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:20,879
Speaker 3: put play defense and we'll come back next year and

629
00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:21,359
Speaker 3: get it right.

630
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Speaker 2: All right.

631
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Speaker 1: The Green Bay Packers. They are picking fifteen, forty five,

632
00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:26,520
Speaker 1: and seventy eight at the moment. Maybe they add to

633
00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:28,719
Speaker 1: that pile, or we'll see what happens with Aaron Rodgers.

634
00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:31,159
Speaker 1: This is an offense that was twenty fourth in the

635
00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:33,480
Speaker 1: red zone. This is a defense that was tied for

636
00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:36,280
Speaker 1: twenty seventh in sacks. They were twenty sixth against the run.

637
00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:39,880
Speaker 1: They lose Alan Lazard, they lose Robert Tanyan on offense.

638
00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:42,919
Speaker 1: So I know we've talked about the wide receiver position

639
00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:46,240
Speaker 1: buck In, something they traditionally haven't done in the first round.

640
00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:49,159
Speaker 1: I still think that forty five would be more of

641
00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:50,760
Speaker 1: a target for them with a wide out. If we're

642
00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:53,280
Speaker 1: looking at fifteen and we're going to go with a

643
00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:56,080
Speaker 1: tight end, and so i'll give you this or that question.

644
00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:58,680
Speaker 1: Let's say you're sitting there at fifteen and you have

645
00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:00,479
Speaker 1: your pick of any of the tight ends, whichever one

646
00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:04,200
Speaker 1: you fancy, and then you also are looking at ed

647
00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:08,880
Speaker 1: drushers that consist of let's go Murphy, Miles. Murphy would

648
00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:11,880
Speaker 1: be in that mix. Let's say van As and let's

649
00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:12,240
Speaker 1: take the.

650
00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:14,640
Speaker 2: Tight end, go through the field.

651
00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:16,560
Speaker 3: And the only reason why I'm gonna take the tight

652
00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:18,920
Speaker 3: end is because the tight end is going to be

653
00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:21,000
Speaker 3: the easiest way to make Jordan Love comfortable. It's the

654
00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:22,880
Speaker 3: shortest throw, it's right over the middle of the field.

655
00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:24,680
Speaker 3: And when you look at young quarterbacks, a lot of

656
00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:28,600
Speaker 3: them really excel at inbreaking routes inside the numbers.

657
00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:30,439
Speaker 2: Let's get the best tight end.

658
00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:32,639
Speaker 3: So I'm gonna say let's get dalton Kin Kaid as

659
00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:34,760
Speaker 3: opposed to Michael because Michael Meyer, to me, is more

660
00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:35,359
Speaker 3: than combo.

661
00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:36,119
Speaker 2: Why tight end.

662
00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:38,639
Speaker 3: He wants to like do his dirt. He can block

663
00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:41,199
Speaker 3: in the run game, he can catch, But dalton Kin

664
00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:44,520
Speaker 3: Kate is a little more dynamic. And so I'm leaning

665
00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:47,679
Speaker 3: towards daln Kin k Being to pick fifteen right over

666
00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:48,280
Speaker 3: the middlefield.

667
00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:49,200
Speaker 2: Let him be a weapon.

668
00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:52,439
Speaker 3: I want Jordan Love to be comfortable because he has

669
00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:53,680
Speaker 3: to kind of hit the ground running.

670
00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:56,720
Speaker 1: This year, there's a worship song called way Maker, and

671
00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:59,280
Speaker 1: for some reason, I've got Playmaker. I've changed them. I've

672
00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:01,680
Speaker 1: changed the lyric, which is probably sacriligious, but I've changed

673
00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:03,120
Speaker 1: the lyrics. When I'm looking at the at the Green

674
00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:04,840
Speaker 1: Bay Packers and just give somebody make a play, it's

675
00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:05,840
Speaker 1: else to add to that mix.

676
00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:09,120
Speaker 3: They have to Christian Watson will be fine. Vermia dubs,

677
00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:11,720
Speaker 3: It's fine, But you want a young guy over the middlefield.

678
00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:12,800
Speaker 3: They all can grow together.

679
00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:16,320
Speaker 1: Yep, all right, Bears, Bears picking nine fifty three, sixty one,

680
00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:19,360
Speaker 1: sixty four. I got us in all kinds of hot

681
00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:21,240
Speaker 1: water with all the Bears fans when I talked about

682
00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:23,119
Speaker 1: the idea that if Richardson's there at nine, they have

683
00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:24,520
Speaker 1: to at least have the conversation.

684
00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:25,800
Speaker 2: Nothing wrong with having a conversation.

685
00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:27,280
Speaker 1: I have the conversation. That's all we're saying.

686
00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:27,600
Speaker 3: This is it.

687
00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:29,200
Speaker 2: So here's what I want people to understand.

688
00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:32,200
Speaker 3: We spent an entire day when I was in Carolina

689
00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:35,720
Speaker 3: talking about Matt Jones. You remember Matt Jones, the wide

690
00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:38,080
Speaker 3: receiver from Arkshaws that went to Jacksonville in the first right.

691
00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:41,480
Speaker 3: He was a quarterback at Arkansas on the heels of

692
00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:44,640
Speaker 3: having a good team. We talked about Matt Jones potentially

693
00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:47,800
Speaker 3: being got quarterback because we saw Michael Vick doing all

694
00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:51,040
Speaker 3: of that quarterback run stuff. So these are conversations that

695
00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:53,280
Speaker 3: you have. Yeah, you burn up a day talking about it,

696
00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:55,040
Speaker 3: but yes, you have to at least entertain it. If

697
00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:57,879
Speaker 3: Anthony Richardson falls to you, at nine, you have to

698
00:27:57,960 --> 00:27:59,000
Speaker 3: at least have the conversation.

699
00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:00,679
Speaker 2: I saying that you put a tree, but you got

700
00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:01,280
Speaker 2: to talk about it.

701
00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:01,880
Speaker 5: Will.

702
00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:04,800
Speaker 1: I will add on to that and say this, if

703
00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:07,639
Speaker 1: Anthony Richardson is on the clock at nine and you

704
00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:11,760
Speaker 1: are having your first organizational discussion on Anthony Richardson at

705
00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:14,359
Speaker 1: pick nine, it is your problem. You are in big trouble.

706
00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:18,000
Speaker 1: You are not doing your homework. And I don't that

707
00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:20,560
Speaker 1: doesn't strike me from what I know about polls and

708
00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:23,080
Speaker 1: what I know about e Yates Cunningham, that they're doing

709
00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:26,200
Speaker 1: their homework. So that's that's where we are there. But anyways,

710
00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:28,320
Speaker 1: let's let's go bears. Let me, let's look at a

711
00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:29,200
Speaker 1: couple of ways they can go.

712
00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:29,439
Speaker 2: Here.

713
00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:32,720
Speaker 1: You're looking at edge rusher, you're looking at corner, you're

714
00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:37,199
Speaker 1: looking at offensive tackle. To me, a team that's lasting

715
00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:40,200
Speaker 1: in in passing yards per game, that's twenty ninth in sacks,

716
00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:42,240
Speaker 1: and they've done some things on the offensive line.

717
00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:42,480
Speaker 2: Buck.

718
00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:45,080
Speaker 1: I look at this on paper, though, and I do

719
00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:47,760
Speaker 1: not see an above average offensive line. I mean, I'm

720
00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:49,920
Speaker 1: hoping this is an average offensive line. I do not

721
00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:54,000
Speaker 1: see an above average offensive line. So to me, if

722
00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:56,320
Speaker 1: you got your pick of the offensive line, whatever one

723
00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:59,640
Speaker 1: you like. I mean, I'm personally a Scronsky fan. But

724
00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:03,480
Speaker 1: if that's if that's Jones, if that's Paris Johnson, if

725
00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:04,520
Speaker 1: that's Darnell Right.

726
00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:05,200
Speaker 2: I don't care.

727
00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:08,400
Speaker 1: But to me, if you're in going forward justin fields,

728
00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:10,000
Speaker 1: you got to be better up front.

729
00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:12,480
Speaker 3: You got to be better up front. And Dj we

730
00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:15,480
Speaker 3: saw last year to Seattle Seahawks. Seattle Seahawks double up. Yeah,

731
00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:17,960
Speaker 3: off lineman doubled up and it worked out for them.

732
00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:20,960
Speaker 3: So for me, we talk about this offensive line before

733
00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:23,240
Speaker 3: we can be thinking about the fun part, the bills

734
00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:25,840
Speaker 3: and whistles that go around justin fields. You got DJ Moore,

735
00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:28,360
Speaker 3: you have these weapons, but if he's on his back,

736
00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:29,800
Speaker 3: you want to have an opportunity to get to him,

737
00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:32,160
Speaker 3: and so you want to build around fields, make sure

738
00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:32,719
Speaker 3: he's protected.

739
00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:33,360
Speaker 2: He's upright.

740
00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:36,240
Speaker 3: But at some point Matt Eberfluss is going to be

741
00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:38,440
Speaker 3: knocking on Ryan Poles or like, hey man, I can't

742
00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:40,200
Speaker 3: play the style of defense that I want to play

743
00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:41,960
Speaker 3: unless I have someone on the inside of the three

744
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:44,920
Speaker 3: technique or someone on the outside who can rush the pass.

745
00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:46,640
Speaker 2: At some point they have to address those issues.

746
00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:49,120
Speaker 1: So again, though, if you're looking at the defensive front

747
00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:52,520
Speaker 1: and the offensive front. You know, look, there's some interesting guys.

748
00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:54,760
Speaker 1: I think that will be there when they pick. When

749
00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:58,040
Speaker 1: they come back and pick at fifty three. Again, remember

750
00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:01,040
Speaker 1: they don't have pick thirty two as it Chase Clayton, Man,

751
00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:03,240
Speaker 1: i'd be nice to have that picking. Oh yeah, so

752
00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:07,640
Speaker 1: they are picking fifty three. So at that point time, Man,

753
00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:09,600
Speaker 1: that's a lot of good offensive lineman off the board.

754
00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:11,800
Speaker 1: I can make a case I can find an edge rusher.

755
00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:12,120
Speaker 2: I can.

756
00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:14,960
Speaker 1: Oh, you find a guy, I feel to me, I'm

757
00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:17,680
Speaker 1: just getting that. If you're gonna go O line D line,

758
00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:19,120
Speaker 1: I think you gotta go line first.

759
00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:21,320
Speaker 2: Well, I mean you look at the talented. Talent is different.

760
00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:24,280
Speaker 3: The disparity to drop off is different between the offensive

761
00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:26,880
Speaker 3: tackles and the edge rushers. So you take the offensive

762
00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:28,560
Speaker 3: tackle early because you're gonna have the pick of the

763
00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:30,480
Speaker 3: litter up there. You're gonna have one of the top

764
00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:33,760
Speaker 3: two or three right there in your wheelhouse at nah,

765
00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:34,880
Speaker 3: So you have to take that guy.

766
00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:35,680
Speaker 2: You can come back.

767
00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:38,520
Speaker 3: We've talked about edge rushers. You can find them outside

768
00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:41,160
Speaker 3: of that. But yeah, it's a deeper pool of talent

769
00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:42,840
Speaker 3: at edge rusher than it.

770
00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:43,320
Speaker 2: Is at offense.

771
00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:46,680
Speaker 1: Can I give you an impossible question real quick? All right,

772
00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:51,280
Speaker 1: we're in the room, we're on the clock. Hey, Bucky

773
00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:54,160
Speaker 1: you you stamp your you put your stamp on b

774
00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:55,520
Speaker 1: Shawn Robinson right here, a number nine.

775
00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:57,200
Speaker 2: I know we got other needs. We take Bshon Robbs.

776
00:30:57,200 --> 00:31:01,680
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. I love him the spot, but I

777
00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:03,720
Speaker 2: feel like he'll be ducking in dodging.

778
00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:06,280
Speaker 3: I think he would become the the this version of

779
00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:09,840
Speaker 3: Saquon Barkley because he's he's ducking in dodging guys in

780
00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:11,560
Speaker 3: the backfield, So we won't get a chance to really

781
00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:14,720
Speaker 3: see him at his best. And as you have said,

782
00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:16,960
Speaker 3: I don't know if this team is ready to drop

783
00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:18,120
Speaker 3: the premiere running back in.

784
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:19,080
Speaker 2: I don't know.

785
00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:22,840
Speaker 3: We might waste his prime years while we're trying to

786
00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:24,880
Speaker 3: get good. We might need to wait a year or

787
00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:27,320
Speaker 3: two before we put in that five star running back there.

788
00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:30,720
Speaker 1: Amen, So I can, I can. I can say it

789
00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:32,920
Speaker 1: out of both sides of my mouth. Here, third rated

790
00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:34,720
Speaker 1: player in the draft. Love him, think he's got a

791
00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:37,360
Speaker 1: chance to be a perennial pro bowler. Not the right

792
00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:38,360
Speaker 1: pick for the Bears right now.

793
00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:40,440
Speaker 2: Can't, can't, can't can't get the best out him right there.

794
00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:43,240
Speaker 1: No, No, Detroit is interesting. We didn't talk about that scenario.

795
00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:45,400
Speaker 1: But if he's there at pick eighteen, maybe you pass

796
00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:47,080
Speaker 1: him once if you're Detroit. But it's like if it's

797
00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:48,920
Speaker 1: fate at that point time, if he still comes to

798
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:52,160
Speaker 1: us at pick eighteen, I can't. I mean, come on, man,

799
00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:54,240
Speaker 1: it's too much. I gotta take him. All right, Let's

800
00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:56,040
Speaker 1: get to the let's get to the next division. NFC

801
00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:59,360
Speaker 1: South Tampa Bay Buccaneers. They're picking nineteen fifty eighty two.

802
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:02,440
Speaker 1: This is a team. Obviously, the quarterback situation. You bring

803
00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:04,680
Speaker 1: in Baker Mayfield, You've got Kyle Trask. We'll see what

804
00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:07,720
Speaker 1: that looks like. You look at the safety position, you

805
00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:10,120
Speaker 1: look at continue to add edge rushers. This is an

806
00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:12,360
Speaker 1: offense that was last in the league in rushing yards.

807
00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:15,160
Speaker 1: They were twenty fifth in points per game. Obviously, Tom

808
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:18,680
Speaker 1: Brady no longer there, Fournett is gone. You look at

809
00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:22,480
Speaker 1: tackle Smith is gone, Shack Mason has been traded. So

810
00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:24,640
Speaker 1: this is a different looking team right now.

811
00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:25,600
Speaker 2: Different looking team.

812
00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:28,760
Speaker 3: It doesn't look good right now on paper, but there's

813
00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:30,200
Speaker 3: still time to continue to fix this.

814
00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:31,400
Speaker 2: But they don't look good on paper.

815
00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:34,360
Speaker 3: So if we're doing this and this is a full rebuild,

816
00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:37,840
Speaker 3: we're in full HGTV mode. We got to start with

817
00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:39,760
Speaker 3: the basics. Which side of the ball do we feel

818
00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:42,880
Speaker 3: like we can get to? Great quicker is that the defense.

819
00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:46,160
Speaker 3: Can we somehow keep the score down in the NFC

820
00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:48,200
Speaker 3: South where we may be able to squeak it out

821
00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:50,160
Speaker 3: because we're gonna play very concerned on offense. We have

822
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:52,840
Speaker 3: Baker Mayfield, I know we have Chris Godwin and Mike Evans,

823
00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:54,520
Speaker 3: but we're not going to light it up. We're not

824
00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:56,080
Speaker 3: trying to throw it all over the yard. And remember

825
00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:58,440
Speaker 3: Drew Canalis comes over for the Seattle Seahawks. They don't

826
00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:01,000
Speaker 3: run the football. To me, this is a let's go

827
00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:03,240
Speaker 3: heavy on defense. Let's see if we can get that

828
00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:06,080
Speaker 3: defense back to playing at a top ten, top five level,

829
00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:08,960
Speaker 3: and then see if we can manufacture some points that way.

830
00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:12,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, to me, I think about waves of rushers. You

831
00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:14,160
Speaker 1: look at the corner position they brought back to mel Dean,

832
00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:15,760
Speaker 1: which is a little bit of a surprise. Right, They're

833
00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:17,719
Speaker 1: able to get him back in the fold. So got

834
00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:22,160
Speaker 1: Carlton Davis there, you know, corners of possibility. I would

835
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:24,080
Speaker 1: say I would not be surprised if this is just

836
00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:26,040
Speaker 1: another edge rusher to throw into their pile.

837
00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:27,600
Speaker 2: You have to you have to.

838
00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:29,200
Speaker 3: I mean they've been at their best when they've been

839
00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:31,120
Speaker 3: able to get after the tabos wants to crank up

840
00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:34,160
Speaker 3: the pressure. They crank up depressure and create chaos at

841
00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:37,520
Speaker 3: the line of scrimmers. So yes, somebody, somebody at the

842
00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:40,920
Speaker 3: line of scrimmers that can make create disruptive.

843
00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:42,040
Speaker 1: Plays has to be to pick, all right, So I

844
00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:43,480
Speaker 1: get to give you a couple of players then, So

845
00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:46,800
Speaker 1: if I tell you right now it's Miles Murphy will McDonald,

846
00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:47,640
Speaker 1: where you're going.

847
00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:51,080
Speaker 3: I could go either one, but Will McDonald may get

848
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:52,880
Speaker 3: the not over Miles Murphy. Even though I have a

849
00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:56,360
Speaker 3: high grade a Miles Murphy. There's something about Will McDonald's

850
00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:58,440
Speaker 3: energy and his ability to kind of bump inside and

851
00:33:58,520 --> 00:33:59,520
Speaker 3: do some creative things.

852
00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:01,400
Speaker 1: Talking with the GM the other day and he said,

853
00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:03,520
Speaker 1: what's wrong with Miles Murphy? Like what people kill him?

854
00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:06,880
Speaker 1: I'm like nothing, He's is to help me. Yeah, maybe

855
00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:08,879
Speaker 1: maybe it's a ghost of Cleveland Farrow or something.

856
00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:12,120
Speaker 2: Cleveland Farrell, Vic Beasley, Yeah, Kevin died.

857
00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:15,279
Speaker 3: Shack Lawson didn't play up to think so you have

858
00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:17,879
Speaker 3: all these guys that have come from Cleps to ghost. Yeah,

859
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:19,480
Speaker 3: so the ghost so you have to get past the

860
00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:22,399
Speaker 3: ghosts and to do that. So it's not his fault,

861
00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:24,239
Speaker 3: but it's the ghost of those Clemson past rushes of

862
00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:24,520
Speaker 3: the past.

863
00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:24,719
Speaker 4: Yeah.

864
00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:26,640
Speaker 1: I say he's a good player. I just you know,

865
00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:28,600
Speaker 1: I just don't know how much he you know, I

866
00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:30,440
Speaker 1: don't know how much he's seen of his ceiling. I

867
00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:32,560
Speaker 1: think there's more there with him. So me, I like

868
00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:33,200
Speaker 1: Miles Murphy.

869
00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:33,680
Speaker 2: I have him.

870
00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:35,879
Speaker 1: I just have him. He's my in my final list,

871
00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:37,960
Speaker 1: which will come out next week. He's twenty two, so

872
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:40,680
Speaker 1: I have him. Third is the pastor, Yeah, he's he's

873
00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:44,920
Speaker 1: he is my Miles Murphy is my fourth, I believe.

874
00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:48,359
Speaker 1: So he's he's right in that mix. So I've got

875
00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:52,160
Speaker 1: him one spot over Will McDonald. All right, now let's

876
00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:55,319
Speaker 1: get to the Panthers. The Panthers one to one, Bryce Young.

877
00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:59,920
Speaker 1: Let's move on two, pick thirty nine, three, pick ninety three.

878
00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:03,200
Speaker 1: This is a team offensively challenged last year twenty ninth

879
00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:05,840
Speaker 1: in passing yards per game, thirtieth and third down. So

880
00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:08,239
Speaker 1: if you look at this offense, looks like and let's

881
00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:10,080
Speaker 1: you know, I want to get ahead of ourselves. But

882
00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:12,080
Speaker 1: if we assume Bryce Young is in the mix here,

883
00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:15,200
Speaker 1: you've got Bryce Young now at quarterback. You've brought over

884
00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:18,000
Speaker 1: Adam Feelin to put him in the mix. You know,

885
00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:20,239
Speaker 1: this is an offense in the backfield. You feel good

886
00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:23,520
Speaker 1: about where you are there. So there's there's some pieces

887
00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:25,520
Speaker 1: in place here. I wish, gosh, I wish when you're

888
00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:27,440
Speaker 1: breaking in a new guy, you had Christian McCaffrey in

889
00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:30,400
Speaker 1: the mix as well. You don't. But when you look

890
00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:32,359
Speaker 1: at the direction they could go here at pick number

891
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:36,399
Speaker 1: thirty nine, Buck corner is a is a spot where

892
00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:38,640
Speaker 1: you know, you look at where they are.

893
00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:39,200
Speaker 2: They got J. C.

894
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:43,360
Speaker 1: Horn, They've got Dante Jackson still is a good player.

895
00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:45,480
Speaker 1: What's why am I blanking on his name?

896
00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:45,799
Speaker 2: Here? CJ.

897
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:49,040
Speaker 1: Henderson who came off from that trade. So they're okay there,

898
00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:50,680
Speaker 1: I have that down as one of their needs. But

899
00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:53,960
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna drop that one off. Continuing to

900
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:56,840
Speaker 1: add edge rushers, or do you just say screw it,

901
00:35:56,920 --> 00:35:58,920
Speaker 1: We're gonna we're gonna go all in with our quarterback.

902
00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:02,160
Speaker 1: We've brought in DJ K, We've got Adam thielin offensive

903
00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:04,320
Speaker 1: line is not bad We've got Miles Sanders who we

904
00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:06,880
Speaker 1: brought in. Is it another is it just another weapon?

905
00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:09,120
Speaker 2: Oh? What about tight end? What about working in the

906
00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:09,719
Speaker 2: middle of the field.

907
00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:12,080
Speaker 1: Well, they signed Hayden Hurst, good player.

908
00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:14,960
Speaker 2: Do we need to let you have any nurse? He's fine,

909
00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:15,400
Speaker 2: he's solid.

910
00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:18,120
Speaker 1: They've got Hayden Hurst and Thomas Tommy Tremble. I mean,

911
00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:20,000
Speaker 1: good guys. I don't think they have a one.

912
00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:23,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think this at thirty nine for the Panthers,

913
00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:26,480
Speaker 3: it comes down to the cluche like the best player available,

914
00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:28,560
Speaker 3: because there's going to be someone that falls out of

915
00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:31,200
Speaker 3: the first round that's going to be staring at them

916
00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:33,880
Speaker 3: right at that point. And so do we want to

917
00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:35,759
Speaker 3: continue to look at the offensive line? Do we want

918
00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:39,399
Speaker 3: to do something to help Bryce Young? Can we find

919
00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:41,799
Speaker 3: a wide receiver at that point that may have been

920
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:44,920
Speaker 3: underrated that gives them some of the stuff. I think

921
00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:46,359
Speaker 3: it's really wide open for that. I don't know if

922
00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:49,279
Speaker 3: they have to necessarily pinpoint or target a need. I

923
00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:51,319
Speaker 3: think it's really the best player that is there for them.

924
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:53,880
Speaker 1: It's not a bad roster as I'm looking at it

925
00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:55,920
Speaker 1: right now. I mean they've got some good pieces, especially

926
00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:59,280
Speaker 1: on defense. We look at you know, having Derek Brown

927
00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:01,920
Speaker 1: there shocked and still a good player. Brian Burns gets home,

928
00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:03,960
Speaker 1: j C. Horns at number one corner, You bring in

929
00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:08,080
Speaker 1: Von Bell at safety. I mean, Jeremy Chin's a fun player.

930
00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:08,560
Speaker 2: Right.

931
00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:09,680
Speaker 1: It's not a bad team.

932
00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:13,040
Speaker 3: So in running down the roster, now you go back

933
00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:15,160
Speaker 3: to the offense, say, okay, how can we make this better?

934
00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:18,560
Speaker 3: Because remember the offense is going to be Frank Reich's baby.

935
00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:21,160
Speaker 3: He says, you got to be able to throw the

936
00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:22,680
Speaker 3: win in this league, but you have to have a

937
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:24,720
Speaker 3: running component. You got to be able to be physical

938
00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:27,239
Speaker 3: enough to run the ball. So he's telling somewhere on

939
00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:29,200
Speaker 3: offense they have to address some things. And if there's

940
00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:32,399
Speaker 3: a prime player, a solid player offensively at thirty nine,

941
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:34,080
Speaker 3: you can take that and it's wide open in terms

942
00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:35,319
Speaker 3: of what position you can take there.

943
00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:37,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I know we listened off the tight

944
00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:39,520
Speaker 1: ends and they've got a pretty deep room there. But man,

945
00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:40,759
Speaker 1: it would be kind of fun if they want to

946
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:42,799
Speaker 1: go out there in twelve personnel and you've got Hayden

947
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:44,520
Speaker 1: Hurston all of a sudden, now you take the big

948
00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:46,200
Speaker 1: tight end Musgrave and throw him in the mix.

949
00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:48,399
Speaker 3: You know, it's funny I was thinking Luke Musgrave would

950
00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:51,440
Speaker 3: be right there. So yes, two tight ends even it

951
00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:53,719
Speaker 3: out be able to create some mismatches in those things.

952
00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:55,160
Speaker 2: You can't go wrong with that.

953
00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:59,399
Speaker 1: Saints they are picking twenty nine forty, so two really

954
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:02,600
Speaker 1: close to each each other there and seventy one. This

955
00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:05,000
Speaker 1: is a team in the offseason. Derek Carr comes in,

956
00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:08,360
Speaker 1: They bring in Jamal Williams a running back. They lose Davenport,

957
00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:12,440
Speaker 1: who we talked about. They lose a DT and David Anyamata. Offensively,

958
00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:14,000
Speaker 1: last year they just turned it over a ton twenty

959
00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:17,160
Speaker 1: seventh in the league. They were thirtieth in takeaways on defense,

960
00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:21,040
Speaker 1: twenty fourth in rushing yards per game. Defense seems to

961
00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:23,960
Speaker 1: be a direction I would see them leaning here at

962
00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:27,279
Speaker 1: pick number twenty nine. Give me your thoughts here on

963
00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:28,680
Speaker 1: this squad in New Orleans.

964
00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:30,920
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, you have Derek Carr in the building,

965
00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:33,319
Speaker 3: so you feel like Derek Carr can help you get

966
00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:35,920
Speaker 3: back on track. He's not Drew Brees, but he should

967
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:38,960
Speaker 3: be a winning quarterback, a playoff caliber quarterback in a

968
00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:41,440
Speaker 3: division that is very winnable right now. So what do

969
00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:43,440
Speaker 3: we need to do to help this team get over

970
00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:46,239
Speaker 3: the top. We lose Marcus Davenport. We want to make

971
00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:48,880
Speaker 3: sure that we have enough depth and talent on that

972
00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:51,840
Speaker 3: side of the ball to hunt and hunting ways because

973
00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:54,759
Speaker 3: if I'm building the Saints, I'm building them with an

974
00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:57,640
Speaker 3: eye towards the Niners and the Eagles because those are

975
00:38:57,680 --> 00:39:00,400
Speaker 3: the other teams that could be division winners. We need

976
00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:04,080
Speaker 3: a team that can win like those divisional rounds yea

977
00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:07,040
Speaker 3: in conference title games. And so we got to be

978
00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:08,839
Speaker 3: able to hunt the passer. We got to be able

979
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:13,319
Speaker 3: to stay in coverage. I'm thinking somebody upfront, big body. Also,

980
00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:15,240
Speaker 3: we got to start thinking about Cam Jordan has played

981
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:17,200
Speaker 3: great for a long time, but at some point we

982
00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:19,040
Speaker 3: got to find someone to eventually replace him.

983
00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:22,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm with you, And to me, it's some interesting

984
00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:25,719
Speaker 1: guys here. If you look at Elijah Kansei, who is

985
00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:28,480
Speaker 1: someway that's a little bit undersized at a pit but

986
00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:31,920
Speaker 1: very dynamic, very explosive. Think about Sheldon Rankins Oh on

987
00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:33,880
Speaker 1: that team, he has a role. You can find a

988
00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:35,880
Speaker 1: role for him in that defense. So I kind of

989
00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:37,760
Speaker 1: like the idea of them going with the defensive tackle

990
00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:40,200
Speaker 1: here at them that are front. All right, let's get

991
00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:43,399
Speaker 1: to the Falcons. They're picking eight, forty four and seventy five.

992
00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:45,480
Speaker 2: This is a team that.

993
00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:50,160
Speaker 1: Last year was thirty first in passing yards per game.

994
00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:53,200
Speaker 1: They on defense, buck, how's this thirty first and sacks

995
00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:55,759
Speaker 1: thirty first and third down twenty seventh and turnovers that

996
00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:59,120
Speaker 1: is not good. They have recently added Khalais Campbell, They've

997
00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:02,840
Speaker 1: had Anyamada. They've also added Jesse Bates, which was a

998
00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:06,000
Speaker 1: huge addition to this defense. So they've added some pieces

999
00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:09,000
Speaker 1: here along this defensive front and in the safety position.

1000
00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:10,880
Speaker 1: But man, they had a long way to go on defense,

1001
00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:12,400
Speaker 1: a long.

1002
00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:14,880
Speaker 2: Way, crazy, long way to be able to go.

1003
00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:19,600
Speaker 3: And the thing about this team, they're really an interesting

1004
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:22,200
Speaker 3: situation because if they go all in on Desmond retter

1005
00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:24,200
Speaker 3: Desmont Redders shout out to him, change his number. He's

1006
00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:26,600
Speaker 3: back to number nine, nice like he was at Cincinnati.

1007
00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:28,560
Speaker 3: He's trying to grow into the role of being the

1008
00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:30,840
Speaker 3: QB one. Well, we want to be able to continue

1009
00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:32,800
Speaker 3: to run the football. They've been david to do it

1010
00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:36,160
Speaker 3: with Kadero Pattison, they have Algiers. But you sitting there

1011
00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:39,120
Speaker 3: at number eight, and I just remember a young Matt

1012
00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:42,360
Speaker 3: Ryan and how he benefited from playing with Michael Burner Turner.

1013
00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:44,560
Speaker 3: I'm not saying that they have to take b John

1014
00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:47,400
Speaker 3: Robinson at eight. I think they're a little different than

1015
00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:50,840
Speaker 3: the conversation we had with the Bears. This team appears

1016
00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:53,520
Speaker 3: a little more ready to take a big time running

1017
00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:55,000
Speaker 3: back to put behind the quarterback because of it to

1018
00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:59,759
Speaker 3: make them comfortable, and because Arthur Smith has played with King,

1019
00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:03,279
Speaker 3: He's called an offense with a big time back and

1020
00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:04,440
Speaker 3: he's had success with that.

1021
00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:07,399
Speaker 2: I just would have put it past the Atlanta foul

1022
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:09,320
Speaker 2: because to make that move with Jon Robinson at eight.

1023
00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:11,920
Speaker 1: I also forgot about Bud Dupree, who they had added

1024
00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:14,160
Speaker 1: in there as well. B Jon Robinson is a fascinating one.

1025
00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:17,120
Speaker 1: You know, Algiers a good player. Cordell Patterson is you know,

1026
00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:19,319
Speaker 1: he's a unique player, one of one with what he does.

1027
00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:21,759
Speaker 1: I've heard that same thing though, don't sleep on them

1028
00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:23,759
Speaker 1: with b Jon Robinson. I'm just looking at these wide

1029
00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:26,839
Speaker 1: receivers and you've got Drake Lennon who we love. Then

1030
00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:30,680
Speaker 1: it's Mac Collins who's big and physical, Scottie Miller, solid player.

1031
00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:33,080
Speaker 1: I don't know that they're in that group. Is a

1032
00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:35,480
Speaker 1: true too, you know, like if we want if we

1033
00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:38,120
Speaker 1: want Drake Lennon to kind of grow with somebody going forward.

1034
00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:40,400
Speaker 1: I feel like you've got the size there with London

1035
00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:42,319
Speaker 1: and mac Collins. Those are two power forwards. If we're

1036
00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:45,680
Speaker 1: getting our basketball team, buck, that's where maybe maybe eight

1037
00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:49,080
Speaker 1: is rich. I think they probably go defensive line here.

1038
00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:51,279
Speaker 1: But when you look at where they're picking at pick

1039
00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:53,840
Speaker 1: forty four, I think they maybe find somebody, you know,

1040
00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:57,040
Speaker 1: another weapon in that receiving group, maybe somebody that can

1041
00:41:57,080 --> 00:41:57,360
Speaker 1: really go.

1042
00:41:57,640 --> 00:42:00,960
Speaker 3: I can't because I can co sign on that and say, hey,

1043
00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:04,000
Speaker 3: let's go three years in a row, all pass catchers,

1044
00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:06,160
Speaker 3: cow pits, Drake London and then let me.

1045
00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:06,560
Speaker 2: Give you a name.

1046
00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:08,080
Speaker 1: How about your Tarho? How about Josh Downs?

1047
00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:11,399
Speaker 2: That'd be nice. His dad played do too? Carry down? Good?

1048
00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:13,440
Speaker 1: Let me write that down real quick, Gary Down.

1049
00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:14,160
Speaker 2: Gary Dale.

1050
00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:16,759
Speaker 3: Sa've running back, They running back n Falcons and they're

1051
00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:18,120
Speaker 3: from there, hometown kid.

1052
00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:21,759
Speaker 1: Yep, I love it. I'm making these notes. This is like,

1053
00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:24,400
Speaker 1: this is like taking batting practice for you at the draft.

1054
00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:26,520
Speaker 1: It is great because it's like, hey, these these teams

1055
00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:28,680
Speaker 1: are on the clock. We're coming up with some interesting

1056
00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:33,719
Speaker 1: discussion points here in combinations. So I'm stealing that one.

1057
00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:37,279
Speaker 1: All right, Let's go NFC West forty nine ers. Uh,

1058
00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:40,319
Speaker 1: this is a team picking really close together here ninety

1059
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:42,719
Speaker 1: nine one, one two, not till the third round. They've

1060
00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:45,400
Speaker 1: got a zillion picks, man buck, this is a defense.

1061
00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:47,280
Speaker 1: It was so dang good. And they added Javon Hargrave

1062
00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:51,040
Speaker 1: into that mix. Goodness gracious. They lose mcgleinchey, they lose

1063
00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:54,279
Speaker 1: a mena who they lose Garoppolo. Sam Donald is in

1064
00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:57,680
Speaker 1: the mix there. You're hoping that you're gonna get a

1065
00:42:57,719 --> 00:43:01,160
Speaker 1: healthy quarterback coming back and brock perty Lance coming off injury.

1066
00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:03,320
Speaker 1: That I don't don't think they're messing with a quarterback

1067
00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:06,120
Speaker 1: unless somehow Trey Lance gets traded. So if we're looking

1068
00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:08,719
Speaker 1: at where they're picking in the third round, look at

1069
00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:11,480
Speaker 1: a tackle as a place they could go and continuing

1070
00:43:11,560 --> 00:43:13,680
Speaker 1: to add, you know, edge rusher is something they love

1071
00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:15,680
Speaker 1: to do in corner would be a couple concerns.

1072
00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:19,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, So interestingly, they have a slew of these picks

1073
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:22,319
Speaker 3: mid rounds. This is a lot of this is they've

1074
00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:25,319
Speaker 3: been rewarded for the diversity higres like they've been getting

1075
00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:28,520
Speaker 3: third round picks accumulate guys because teams have plucked guys

1076
00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:30,520
Speaker 3: off their coaching staffs, in front office staffs, and so

1077
00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:33,200
Speaker 3: you're sitting there at ninety nine and I'm thinking they

1078
00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:35,880
Speaker 3: lose Jimmy Ward to the Houston Texas, who is a

1079
00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:40,200
Speaker 3: valuable nickel player. How about Jamie Robinson from Florida State,

1080
00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:42,160
Speaker 3: someone who has kind of played in that role, like

1081
00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:45,800
Speaker 3: a tough physical corner that can play, a tough, physical

1082
00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:48,520
Speaker 3: nickel player that can play either slote defender or back

1083
00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:51,319
Speaker 3: up to the safety. They also, like you talk about

1084
00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:53,319
Speaker 3: office attacker, you lose them against you can you find

1085
00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:56,399
Speaker 3: someone to maybe groom and grow for that. But you're right,

1086
00:43:57,040 --> 00:43:59,960
Speaker 3: they're at their best when they're throwing waves of pass rushers.

1087
00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:02,680
Speaker 3: You sitting there and now you just waiting, just waiting

1088
00:44:02,719 --> 00:44:05,920
Speaker 3: for someone to fall in range, someone that has a

1089
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:08,640
Speaker 3: high motor, someone who has athletic traits that you like

1090
00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:10,319
Speaker 3: that they can kind of build up because they've been

1091
00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:13,840
Speaker 3: able to really develop guys in San Francisco.

1092
00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:16,720
Speaker 1: They go, I think I would keep an eye on Motown, Philly.

1093
00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:19,960
Speaker 1: Janie Morris from Oklahoma. He's got a little boys to

1094
00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:24,040
Speaker 1: men actually in there. One of those picks. So again,

1095
00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:26,040
Speaker 1: the nice thing about having three picks that close together

1096
00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:28,560
Speaker 1: is you don't really have to make any decisions. We

1097
00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:30,680
Speaker 1: like these three guys, who would take all of them,

1098
00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:34,160
Speaker 1: Just all them all, right, Seahawks. They are five twenty

1099
00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:37,080
Speaker 1: thirty seven fifty two, so they've got four picks in

1100
00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:39,360
Speaker 1: the top fifty two. They can do a lot of

1101
00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:42,680
Speaker 1: damage here offensively, tied for twenty second sacks. Remember they

1102
00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:45,160
Speaker 1: play those two rookie tackles. Continue to get better. They

1103
00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:47,319
Speaker 1: were terrible in the red zone. They were twenty eight defensively.

1104
00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:50,759
Speaker 1: They were thirtieth against the run. Ads in the offseason,

1105
00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:53,399
Speaker 1: they had Jones, very talented defensive tackle. They bring back

1106
00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:56,319
Speaker 1: Bobby Wagner, they bring in Devin Bush, they signed Julian Love,

1107
00:44:57,200 --> 00:45:00,719
Speaker 1: They lost for Sead Penny, they lost Gabe Jackson. A

1108
00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:03,560
Speaker 1: lot of different directions. This team could go edge rusher,

1109
00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:06,280
Speaker 1: continue to add to that defensive front. A defensive alignment

1110
00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:09,399
Speaker 1: on the interior wide receiver seems to be an area

1111
00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:10,560
Speaker 1: that they can address as well.

1112
00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:10,839
Speaker 3: Man.

1113
00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:14,040
Speaker 2: I think early on it's about fixing the defense.

1114
00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:16,160
Speaker 3: Whatever is there. They can take a pass rusher. Any

1115
00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:18,120
Speaker 3: of the guys that are available. We can talk about

1116
00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:20,719
Speaker 3: Tybe Wilson, can talk about Will Anderson. We've had a

1117
00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:24,040
Speaker 3: conversation about Jalen Carter being probably intriguing because he can

1118
00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:26,480
Speaker 3: be enter your presence, but they can have the pick

1119
00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:28,720
Speaker 3: of the litter when it comes to that at twenty,

1120
00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:30,200
Speaker 3: you talk about a wide receiver.

1121
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:33,400
Speaker 2: To me, you add a wide receiver, a slot receiver,

1122
00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:34,799
Speaker 2: a Jackson Smith in jig.

1123
00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:37,000
Speaker 3: But if he's there to what they have in Tyler

1124
00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:40,640
Speaker 3: Lockett and DK Metcalf with Gino Smith showing that he

1125
00:45:40,719 --> 00:45:43,479
Speaker 3: can be a deadly accurate passer. Man, you talk about

1126
00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:48,560
Speaker 3: taking this offense to another level. I mean they just look,

1127
00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:51,600
Speaker 3: they got a bonus pick. You don't expect them to

1128
00:45:51,719 --> 00:45:54,239
Speaker 3: be picking five while also having a playoff team.

1129
00:45:54,640 --> 00:45:55,560
Speaker 2: So this is one man.

1130
00:45:55,560 --> 00:45:58,160
Speaker 3: You talk about taking the best play available. Take someone

1131
00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:00,080
Speaker 3: that can change the tenor.

1132
00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:03,880
Speaker 1: Can I give you a maybe a surprising pick. Seattle

1133
00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:07,640
Speaker 1: has not taken. I believe the the last first round

1134
00:46:07,719 --> 00:46:11,200
Speaker 1: corner they took was from Miami. This is going back,

1135
00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:14,680
Speaker 1: way back, Kelly Kelly Jennings. Nice poll, good poll right there.

1136
00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:18,000
Speaker 1: It's been forever they've been able to find guys. Richard

1137
00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:20,719
Speaker 1: Sherman famously obviously Tarik Wan the most recent example. They've

1138
00:46:20,719 --> 00:46:22,719
Speaker 1: been able to find guys later in the draft. I

1139
00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:25,480
Speaker 1: almost wonder, let's say, in this scenario, if let's say

1140
00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:28,839
Speaker 1: that they're they're not comfortable with Jalen Carter, and let's say,

1141
00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:31,560
Speaker 1: which is very real, that Tyree Wilson, Will Anderson whatever order,

1142
00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:34,520
Speaker 1: they're gone. If you look at kind of how where

1143
00:46:34,560 --> 00:46:37,560
Speaker 1: their team is and where their roster is, I was

1144
00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:40,840
Speaker 1: almost thinking about Gonzales. Okay, big big, So you have

1145
00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:42,440
Speaker 1: Gonzalez and Tarik Wollan.

1146
00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:45,319
Speaker 2: You've got trees locking the blocking the sun out?

1147
00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:46,880
Speaker 1: Is that you know, because we're always like, what's the

1148
00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:49,319
Speaker 1: what's the sur We always get surprised every year. That's

1149
00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:51,680
Speaker 1: one of those ones. I wouldn't I wouldn't totally eliminate

1150
00:46:51,719 --> 00:46:53,799
Speaker 1: that they haven't done corners in the first round.

1151
00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:56,080
Speaker 2: But six So let's go all the.

1152
00:46:56,120 --> 00:46:59,440
Speaker 3: Way back to the original legion of Boom and how

1153
00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:01,799
Speaker 3: big they were. So when you think about it, because

1154
00:47:01,840 --> 00:47:04,040
Speaker 3: remember all of those guys were over six foot, so

1155
00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:06,400
Speaker 3: you had Richard Sherman, you had Brandon Brown, you had

1156
00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:09,840
Speaker 3: Byron Maxwell who was also long and big and played

1157
00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:12,080
Speaker 3: really well in that system. Well, now you have an

1158
00:47:12,120 --> 00:47:14,719
Speaker 3: opportunity to do with those bigger guys. And even though

1159
00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:19,040
Speaker 3: the system and scheme has evolved. Yeah, what you're looking

1160
00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:21,239
Speaker 3: for on the perimeter certainly has it. And because they've

1161
00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:23,719
Speaker 3: had success with Tariq Willin, why not go and get

1162
00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:27,359
Speaker 3: another big safety, I mean, big corner.

1163
00:47:27,120 --> 00:47:30,000
Speaker 1: Type put out there. Son be fun man, be fun

1164
00:47:30,040 --> 00:47:31,400
Speaker 1: defense to want you imagine.

1165
00:47:31,080 --> 00:47:33,879
Speaker 3: Those battles, all those big guys playing going like them

1166
00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:35,720
Speaker 3: going against DK Metcalf.

1167
00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:35,680
Speaker 4: And all that.

1168
00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:38,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then maybe they come back at pick twenty

1169
00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:39,560
Speaker 1: and they stay on the perimeter and they ended up

1170
00:47:39,560 --> 00:47:41,520
Speaker 1: getting a receiver, you know, get some wady to come

1171
00:47:41,560 --> 00:47:43,839
Speaker 1: in there and compliment what you have at that side.

1172
00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:45,160
Speaker 3: They're trying to get back to it, and I think

1173
00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:48,640
Speaker 3: you can't underestimate. It's been reported they're moving Jamal Adams

1174
00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:50,239
Speaker 3: from safety down to the box to play a week

1175
00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:54,239
Speaker 3: sidelinebacker to go with Julian Love and Quandre Diggs. And

1176
00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:58,200
Speaker 3: so they're trying to get that that defensive identity back

1177
00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:02,520
Speaker 3: brought Jared Reed back, you talked about Jones, Like they're

1178
00:48:02,600 --> 00:48:05,200
Speaker 3: trying to get that. So now that corner is kind

1179
00:48:05,239 --> 00:48:07,800
Speaker 3: of like that missing piece to get them back to

1180
00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:09,000
Speaker 3: playing that defense.

1181
00:48:08,719 --> 00:48:10,600
Speaker 2: Like they played into early twenty tens. Yeah.

1182
00:48:10,719 --> 00:48:12,160
Speaker 1: No, and then look you all of a sudden, now

1183
00:48:12,200 --> 00:48:14,759
Speaker 1: you've got Julian Love who plays some nickel. You've got

1184
00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:16,600
Speaker 1: Kobe Bryant who did a nice job, and then Nickolick.

1185
00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:19,680
Speaker 1: You've got some different skill sets to play with them,

1186
00:48:19,719 --> 00:48:21,719
Speaker 1: all right. The Rams no first round pick. They are

1187
00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:23,880
Speaker 1: picking thirty six, which is the highest they've picked in

1188
00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:26,759
Speaker 1: a long time, in several years. As crazy as that sounds,

1189
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:29,320
Speaker 1: they picked thirty six, sixty nine to seventy seven. This

1190
00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:31,520
Speaker 1: is an offense that was not good last year. Twenty

1191
00:48:31,560 --> 00:48:34,760
Speaker 1: seventh in points per game, obviously the Stafford injury playing

1192
00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:38,040
Speaker 1: a role there, twenty seventh in passing yards twenty seventh,

1193
00:48:38,120 --> 00:48:40,200
Speaker 1: tied for twenty seventh, and rushing yards, they were thirtieth

1194
00:48:40,280 --> 00:48:43,760
Speaker 1: in sacks buck defensively, they were twenty first in sacks.

1195
00:48:44,239 --> 00:48:46,399
Speaker 1: Jalen Ramsey no longer there, Taylor Rapp no longer there,

1196
00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:49,440
Speaker 1: Bobby Wagner, Leonard Floyd More, Exodus, and not a lot

1197
00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:52,040
Speaker 1: of additions here with this group with the Rams.

1198
00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:53,800
Speaker 3: Well, the first thing I want to do is, I

1199
00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:56,480
Speaker 3: know listned head ed T shirt FDM picks. Yeah, I

1200
00:48:56,560 --> 00:48:58,279
Speaker 3: think now we need it right on that my bad

1201
00:49:00,680 --> 00:49:03,799
Speaker 3: j Yeah, just get we need those picks because right

1202
00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:06,600
Speaker 3: now they how do you improve this team without being

1203
00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:08,279
Speaker 3: able to really get in the draft. You trade away

1204
00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:11,600
Speaker 3: Alan Robinson. I mean, you had a mass exodus of players,

1205
00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:14,200
Speaker 3: Jaylen Ramsey and those guys like I don't even know

1206
00:49:14,239 --> 00:49:17,480
Speaker 3: where to begin to fix this team. This team was

1207
00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:19,919
Speaker 3: bad and now you have an older Matthew Stafford who's

1208
00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:22,239
Speaker 3: going to need more support. And you got to beef

1209
00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:24,560
Speaker 3: up the offensive line. I mean, because the offensive line

1210
00:49:24,640 --> 00:49:28,200
Speaker 3: is really where they've had their struggles the last few years.

1211
00:49:28,280 --> 00:49:30,080
Speaker 3: Even though they won a Super Bowl, the offensive line

1212
00:49:30,200 --> 00:49:32,839
Speaker 3: wasn't great and so man, they just have to take

1213
00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:34,960
Speaker 3: best players and cry figure out a way to stack

1214
00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:38,360
Speaker 3: it and sign some street free agents that are underrated

1215
00:49:38,440 --> 00:49:39,000
Speaker 3: but play well.

1216
00:49:39,120 --> 00:49:41,799
Speaker 2: But it's a I mean, look, here's a long road

1217
00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:42,279
Speaker 2: for the Rams.

1218
00:49:42,360 --> 00:49:45,160
Speaker 1: Here's the good news. They pick thirty six, and then

1219
00:49:45,200 --> 00:49:48,239
Speaker 1: they have two third round picks sixty nine to seventy seven,

1220
00:49:48,320 --> 00:49:50,920
Speaker 1: so you can trade. They have three fifth round picks,

1221
00:49:51,080 --> 00:49:53,480
Speaker 1: they have three sixth round picks, they have two sevenths,

1222
00:49:53,520 --> 00:49:54,760
Speaker 1: so they got out scout everybody.

1223
00:49:54,800 --> 00:49:55,000
Speaker 2: Buck.

1224
00:49:55,040 --> 00:49:56,399
Speaker 1: They're gonna have to out scout people.

1225
00:49:56,440 --> 00:49:58,200
Speaker 2: They find some guys they're gonna have to be on

1226
00:49:58,400 --> 00:49:58,879
Speaker 2: their game.

1227
00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:02,839
Speaker 1: Ed rusher, corner, offensive line interior d line. They could

1228
00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:04,640
Speaker 1: really kind of go anywhere. The world's their oyster. That's

1229
00:50:04,719 --> 00:50:05,759
Speaker 1: kind of the good thing about where they are. The

1230
00:50:05,840 --> 00:50:08,359
Speaker 1: only thing I would say about them that I would

1231
00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:10,080
Speaker 1: be a little bit more positive about. At the end

1232
00:50:10,080 --> 00:50:13,000
Speaker 1: of the day. Cooper Cup is an elite player. Van

1233
00:50:13,080 --> 00:50:15,719
Speaker 1: Jefferson's a solid player. You look at Cam Akers, really

1234
00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:18,719
Speaker 1: good player. If Stafford's healthy, he's an elite player still.

1235
00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:22,560
Speaker 1: Obviously Aaron Donald's still playing at a crazy elite level.

1236
00:50:22,840 --> 00:50:25,359
Speaker 1: They stop some blues. There's still some blues on this roster.

1237
00:50:25,640 --> 00:50:28,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, there's still some blues, but man, it's not

1238
00:50:28,640 --> 00:50:31,759
Speaker 3: like the blues that they've had. So now the guys

1239
00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:35,239
Speaker 3: have to develop and so this is I would say,

1240
00:50:35,320 --> 00:50:38,440
Speaker 3: this will require the best coaching job that we've seen

1241
00:50:38,520 --> 00:50:40,640
Speaker 3: from Sean McVay. So he has to be all the

1242
00:50:40,680 --> 00:50:43,440
Speaker 3: way down as a coach in terms of scheming it up,

1243
00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:46,160
Speaker 3: developing the players. Everyone has to be on the same page.

1244
00:50:46,200 --> 00:50:48,160
Speaker 3: So this would be a huge challet of grosso who

1245
00:50:48,200 --> 00:50:50,320
Speaker 3: they take in the draft. This is really Sean mcvah

1246
00:50:50,320 --> 00:50:51,640
Speaker 3: and iss coaching to have to figure out a way

1247
00:50:51,680 --> 00:50:55,120
Speaker 3: to squeeze more out of what they have at the disposal.

1248
00:50:54,640 --> 00:50:56,920
Speaker 1: All right, the Cardinals last one here coming off four

1249
00:50:56,960 --> 00:50:59,839
Speaker 1: and thirteen year. They are picking three, thirty four, six,

1250
00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:02,320
Speaker 1: ninety six. They've got two third round picks. This is

1251
00:51:02,360 --> 00:51:04,360
Speaker 1: a roster I have been saying, I think it's the

1252
00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:07,360
Speaker 1: worst in the league. They're twenty sixth and third down offense, defensively,

1253
00:51:07,480 --> 00:51:10,359
Speaker 1: thirty first in points per game, last or twenty ninth

1254
00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:13,200
Speaker 1: in red zone, twenty eight and third down. It's it's

1255
00:51:13,239 --> 00:51:15,680
Speaker 1: a roster that's in rough shape here buck, so any

1256
00:51:15,719 --> 00:51:18,759
Speaker 1: direction they can go. I found it interesting. We talked

1257
00:51:18,800 --> 00:51:20,759
Speaker 1: to Bill Anderson a little bit earlier. Did you notice

1258
00:51:20,760 --> 00:51:24,080
Speaker 1: he said he didn't visit with the Cardinals. That was

1259
00:51:24,160 --> 00:51:24,720
Speaker 1: kind of surprising.

1260
00:51:25,200 --> 00:51:27,360
Speaker 3: Who knows what's going on? Like, the league is so crazy.

1261
00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:30,320
Speaker 3: This draft has been bananas. Everyone is being cute about everything.

1262
00:51:30,320 --> 00:51:33,359
Speaker 3: I can't wait to Thursday so we can finally see

1263
00:51:33,480 --> 00:51:35,440
Speaker 3: where everyone is going instead of talking about it. But

1264
00:51:35,560 --> 00:51:37,440
Speaker 3: if I'm the Cardinals, man, the Cardinals are in the

1265
00:51:37,480 --> 00:51:40,919
Speaker 3: middle of a complete reset. You have Manti austin Ford

1266
00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:43,560
Speaker 3: coming over, you had Jonathan Gannon coming over, you have

1267
00:51:43,680 --> 00:51:45,560
Speaker 3: these two guys are having to work through a draft

1268
00:51:45,600 --> 00:51:48,319
Speaker 3: together for the first time, and you have a team

1269
00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:52,200
Speaker 3: that doesn't have an identity, and so this is their

1270
00:51:52,200 --> 00:51:54,360
Speaker 3: opportunity to put their stamp. And so regardless of what

1271
00:51:54,440 --> 00:51:56,320
Speaker 3: the needs are, they need to make sure they have

1272
00:51:56,440 --> 00:51:59,800
Speaker 3: the right character fits so they can change the culture

1273
00:51:59,840 --> 00:52:00,640
Speaker 3: in the locker room.

1274
00:52:01,360 --> 00:52:03,600
Speaker 1: I almost wonder with the injury to Kyler Murray and

1275
00:52:03,719 --> 00:52:06,640
Speaker 1: him coming back off of injury, Jonathan Gannon coming into

1276
00:52:06,680 --> 00:52:09,120
Speaker 1: this role as a former defensive coordinator, if he doesn't

1277
00:52:09,120 --> 00:52:11,000
Speaker 1: say inside that room, guys, look, we're not any good

1278
00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:13,200
Speaker 1: on either side of the ball. Quarterbacks not gonna be

1279
00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:15,880
Speaker 1: healthy for a minute here. Let's just let let's just

1280
00:52:16,040 --> 00:52:18,919
Speaker 1: we'll get to the offense. That's next year's problem. Let's

1281
00:52:19,000 --> 00:52:21,480
Speaker 1: let's let's try and get this defense up where we

1282
00:52:21,560 --> 00:52:23,080
Speaker 1: can be competitive, because if you have a good defense,

1283
00:52:23,080 --> 00:52:23,800
Speaker 1: you'll be competitive.

1284
00:52:23,840 --> 00:52:24,600
Speaker 2: You're seeing games.

1285
00:52:24,800 --> 00:52:27,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I almost think this is, you know, maybe

1286
00:52:27,320 --> 00:52:29,240
Speaker 1: you can trade down from three, get a bunch of picks,

1287
00:52:29,400 --> 00:52:31,880
Speaker 1: and this is just throw as many resources at defense

1288
00:52:31,920 --> 00:52:33,640
Speaker 1: as you can, because who knows, You don't know, Budda

1289
00:52:33,680 --> 00:52:34,719
Speaker 1: Baker is going to be on this team.

1290
00:52:34,800 --> 00:52:37,359
Speaker 2: He wants out, he wants out, wants more money, wants out.

1291
00:52:37,440 --> 00:52:40,520
Speaker 3: So yeah, you're right to me, DJ, I know they

1292
00:52:40,600 --> 00:52:42,880
Speaker 3: talk about Caler Murray and Caler Murray has been showing

1293
00:52:43,080 --> 00:52:46,360
Speaker 3: pitches him squad and getting back. I think we've already

1294
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Speaker 3: talked about him being a rich shirt. Yeah hey, but hey,

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Speaker 3: but yeah.

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Speaker 1: Nope, we'll see four twenty four times we go.

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Speaker 2: Try and get this this other team. We're trying to

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Speaker 2: get this team up.

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Speaker 3: We can get the culture right, get everything working together,

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Speaker 3: so we can drop you back in it and we

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Speaker 3: can go.

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you what, man, it might be uh. We

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Speaker 1: might never see you again if they get the first

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Speaker 1: pick next year.

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Speaker 2: It might be.

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Speaker 5: Uh.

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Speaker 1: Anyway, anyways, Caleb is that we have the right number,

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Speaker 1: the right number. All right, that's gonna do it for

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Speaker 1: us today, jam packed episode. Hope you guys have enjoyed

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Speaker 1: this again. We have the conference call coming way tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: This little bonus pod. I hope you've enjoyed it. We'll

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Speaker 1: see you next time. Right here on, Move the sticks