1 00:00:01,880 --> 00:00:04,520 Speaker 1: Hello everyone, and welcome back to Bachelor Happy Hour. 2 00:00:04,760 --> 00:00:08,319 Speaker 2: I'm Cheerity and I'm Rachel, and today we have a 3 00:00:08,480 --> 00:00:11,959 Speaker 2: very special guest, someone who basically is the reason I 4 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:12,800 Speaker 2: got through Paradise. 5 00:00:12,840 --> 00:00:15,280 Speaker 3: Wells, thank you for being on Happy Hour today. 6 00:00:15,960 --> 00:00:19,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, how is there a show about the Bachelor cold 7 00:00:19,160 --> 00:00:23,120 Speaker 4: happy Hour that isn't hosted by the guy who is 8 00:00:23,160 --> 00:00:25,439 Speaker 4: the main host of Happy Hour in Paradise. I don't 9 00:00:25,520 --> 00:00:26,040 Speaker 4: understand it. 10 00:00:26,600 --> 00:00:30,760 Speaker 2: I do those and it's so funny when people always ask, like, 11 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:34,200 Speaker 2: does Wells actually like serve the drinks? Yes, he does, 12 00:00:34,240 --> 00:00:36,600 Speaker 2: and he serves an amazing drink. 13 00:00:37,640 --> 00:00:40,519 Speaker 4: That's a hot take. I feel like I do. 14 00:00:42,479 --> 00:00:45,480 Speaker 2: No you you poor me very strong, which is exactly 15 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:46,320 Speaker 2: what I need. 16 00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:52,640 Speaker 4: Listen, I see all right, like I am the ten 17 00:00:52,680 --> 00:00:57,440 Speaker 4: thousand foot view, and when I see someone that really needs, 18 00:00:57,960 --> 00:01:04,840 Speaker 4: you know, a country club, poor just me aft of 19 00:01:04,840 --> 00:01:06,080 Speaker 4: those country wars. 20 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 2: Well I was the most frequent uh patret at your bar. 21 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:14,840 Speaker 1: I think, I say there the whole time, Rachel, what 22 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:17,320 Speaker 1: was your go to champagne? 23 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:21,720 Speaker 2: Would get? That's fine, more champagne, more champagne, and Wells 24 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 2: knew exactly my favorite cup. We we got through that together. Yeah, 25 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:27,319 Speaker 2: I don't think I could have done. 26 00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:27,720 Speaker 3: It without you. 27 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:29,840 Speaker 4: But I do love the fact that you say that 28 00:01:29,880 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 4: I'm a great bartender and your drink is champagne. Like 29 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:34,680 Speaker 4: I didn't have to mix anything. 30 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:39,720 Speaker 2: Literally, Easis could be sometimes two drinks an hour. This 31 00:01:39,840 --> 00:01:43,399 Speaker 2: swallow Report Welles Meade show is taking care of exactly 32 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:44,680 Speaker 2: an amazing bartender. 33 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:47,080 Speaker 5: And Wells, you've kind of been all over the place. 34 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:50,440 Speaker 2: You have done a Food Network show, you are doing 35 00:01:50,560 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 2: a new golfing show. 36 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 5: Tell us about it. 37 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:57,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, so Food Network. This past like Christmas time, I 38 00:01:57,840 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 4: did a show called Sweet Empire where I hosted like 39 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 4: a baking competition, like hyper realistic kind of like is 40 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 4: it cake type of a thing. I got the film 41 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:10,960 Speaker 4: in Toronto and it was awesome. Like I always make 42 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:13,280 Speaker 4: the joke that, like the I have the greatest job 43 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:15,240 Speaker 4: in the world where I just go to Parrot quote 44 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:17,519 Speaker 4: unquote Paradise and just make drinks and like watch a 45 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 4: bunch of idiots make out in front of me. But 46 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:23,480 Speaker 4: I gotta say, if you can get into the Food 47 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 4: Network hosting game, it is money because it's like walk out, 48 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:31,120 Speaker 4: hit a mark, say a funny thing, and then eat 49 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:33,080 Speaker 4: and that's it. Like that's the job. 50 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:34,079 Speaker 1: A dream. 51 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:37,800 Speaker 4: It is truly the best thing in the world, and 52 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:40,720 Speaker 4: then only only topped by the other show that I'm 53 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:42,320 Speaker 4: doing right now on the Golf Channel, which is called 54 00:02:42,320 --> 00:02:44,360 Speaker 4: the Vanity Index podcast that I started with my buddy 55 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:48,160 Speaker 4: Chad who did the Full Swing Golf show on Netflix, 56 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:50,919 Speaker 4: where we just get to talk about golf and have 57 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 4: like giant celebrities on that we don't want to talk about, 58 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:57,160 Speaker 4: Like we had Andy Garcia, who's like he's in Landman 59 00:02:57,320 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 4: and like the Godfather, and we were like, we're not 60 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:02,360 Speaker 4: talking about Landman. We want to talk about golf. And 61 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:05,560 Speaker 4: it's been so much fun. So I'm sure that you 62 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:09,120 Speaker 4: guys have a lot of golf listeners here. If you 63 00:03:09,639 --> 00:03:12,840 Speaker 4: love golf, please go watch the Golf Channel on Wednesday mornings. 64 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:15,239 Speaker 2: Well, as you're kind of in your Jesse Palmer era 65 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 2: like the food a little bit, are you going to 66 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:18,760 Speaker 2: be hosting the Batchler next? 67 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 5: Like I see the trajectory for you. 68 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:25,120 Speaker 4: No, I think Jesse's got that one on down Pat. 69 00:03:25,720 --> 00:03:27,639 Speaker 4: I just like being a part of Paradise. I hope 70 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:30,720 Speaker 4: that continues on because that's a really fun show to 71 00:03:30,800 --> 00:03:34,360 Speaker 4: get to go do, and like, let's be honest, I 72 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:37,000 Speaker 4: don't know if you know, there was a there was 73 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:39,200 Speaker 4: a moment in time when everyone thought I was going 74 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 4: to be the host of that show, right like in 75 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:44,080 Speaker 4: between Jesse and Chris and everyone's trying to figure it out. 76 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:46,880 Speaker 4: I don't know if anyone takes me serious enough to 77 00:03:46,920 --> 00:03:49,480 Speaker 4: host that show, Like I think I'm too like Waka 78 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:52,720 Speaker 4: Waka funny guy, And I don't know if people would like, 79 00:03:53,120 --> 00:03:55,800 Speaker 4: be like I don't know if I can take him 80 00:03:55,840 --> 00:03:57,360 Speaker 4: so serious to host this show. 81 00:03:57,520 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 2: You know, I feel like people don't know that Jesse's 82 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:00,680 Speaker 2: kind of serious. 83 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, And I also would argue that, like I feel 84 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:06,240 Speaker 1: like for Paradise, like your personality is like perfect for that. 85 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:09,360 Speaker 1: Like obviously maybe leave like the main shows to Jesse, 86 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:11,680 Speaker 1: but like if you were to take over Paradise as hosting, 87 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:14,440 Speaker 1: I feel like that's so because you know, I mean, 88 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 1: Pierre's kind of is just a little chaotic. 89 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:20,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, but I don't know if you could host it. 90 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:22,960 Speaker 4: And also I would still want to bartend, like I 91 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:25,279 Speaker 4: get so much Okay, so like that's a weird thing 92 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:26,640 Speaker 4: to say, Like of course I would love to be 93 00:04:26,680 --> 00:04:30,040 Speaker 4: the host of the show, but like for sure, like 94 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:33,920 Speaker 4: it's so much different and it's it's it's hard to explain, 95 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:37,800 Speaker 4: but like, the stakes for me are so much greater 96 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:41,839 Speaker 4: than they are for Jesse in that place, because I'm 97 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:45,360 Speaker 4: like entrenched with you guys, Like I'm a part of 98 00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:50,120 Speaker 4: the landscape of like what's happening, and I'm giving my 99 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:54,200 Speaker 4: advice and trying to guide everyone as best as I can. 100 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 4: Where it's like you need a host that comes in 101 00:04:55,920 --> 00:04:58,280 Speaker 4: and is like, Okay, today we're doing this, Now go 102 00:04:58,360 --> 00:05:01,400 Speaker 4: do that, and then and then there's the fallout comes 103 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:02,919 Speaker 4: to me and it's like, oh my god, what's going on? 104 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:05,479 Speaker 5: And it really does come to you. 105 00:05:05,760 --> 00:05:10,159 Speaker 4: Yeah, So for me, like when forever reason, the stakes 106 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:12,960 Speaker 4: are much higher for me because I either get really 107 00:05:12,960 --> 00:05:15,800 Speaker 4: invested in these relationships and like I really love these 108 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:18,600 Speaker 4: stories and I think it's important for like the host 109 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:20,960 Speaker 4: to kind of be separated from that. So yeah, I 110 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:23,920 Speaker 4: wouldn't trade it for the world. I actually love doing 111 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:24,360 Speaker 4: that job. 112 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:27,520 Speaker 3: I want to ask, what was it like this season? 113 00:05:27,640 --> 00:05:31,000 Speaker 2: It seemed so much different watching it having been there before. 114 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:33,640 Speaker 2: What was it like hosting with Hannah? What did you 115 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:34,880 Speaker 2: think about the change? 116 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:37,599 Speaker 4: I thought we did a lot of things great, and 117 00:05:37,640 --> 00:05:40,480 Speaker 4: I thought there were some things that we left from 118 00:05:40,520 --> 00:05:43,800 Speaker 4: the old show that I wished stuck around, and then 119 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:46,479 Speaker 4: I kind of started seeing it bleed back in. You know, 120 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:53,360 Speaker 4: like I think that I really missed the silly intros. 121 00:05:53,520 --> 00:05:58,680 Speaker 4: We like went away from that. And what I love 122 00:05:58,680 --> 00:06:02,599 Speaker 4: about Paradise in comparison to the other two shows or 123 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 4: other four shows, whatever, is that it starts it starts 124 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:11,039 Speaker 4: out a comedy. So it's it's known from the jump 125 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:13,240 Speaker 4: that like this is a fun time. You know, like 126 00:06:13,320 --> 00:06:15,960 Speaker 4: obviously it's gonna be drama, and there's gonna be fireworks 127 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:18,240 Speaker 4: and there's gonna be passion and everything. But like at 128 00:06:18,279 --> 00:06:22,120 Speaker 4: the root of it is this, this is a fun experience. 129 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:25,080 Speaker 4: It's a it's a singles retreat. We just filmed the 130 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:28,880 Speaker 4: ENTI so basically, yeah, and so we went away from 131 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:31,960 Speaker 4: that and then we went away from the song. Those 132 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:33,960 Speaker 4: two things I was like, we can't do. We don't 133 00:06:34,040 --> 00:06:37,400 Speaker 4: mess with that. I loved. I was really I was 134 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:41,640 Speaker 4: really trepidacious about the challenges or the. 135 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:44,960 Speaker 1: I was gonna ask, yeah, exercises. 136 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:48,160 Speaker 4: And I didn't love the idea, I'll be honest with you, 137 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:50,120 Speaker 4: I didn't love the idea of money being involved. I 138 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:53,760 Speaker 4: thought that, you know, the whole show is is is 139 00:06:53,839 --> 00:06:56,520 Speaker 4: lynchpinned around this one cliche of like being there for 140 00:06:56,520 --> 00:06:59,240 Speaker 4: the right reasons, and for me, money is like the 141 00:06:59,279 --> 00:07:02,479 Speaker 4: one thing that like makes it kind of not there 142 00:07:02,520 --> 00:07:05,039 Speaker 4: for the right reasons. But I will admit when I'm wrong, 143 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:08,920 Speaker 4: and I was one hundred percent wrong. Those those exercises helped. 144 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:14,040 Speaker 4: It made the couples that were going to last bond 145 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:17,400 Speaker 4: really really well, which, like Rachel, you remember, like one 146 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:19,440 Speaker 4: of the big problems that we always had in Paradise 147 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:21,720 Speaker 4: in years past was like at the end, we'd bring 148 00:07:21,760 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 4: in people, but like we just always felt bad for 149 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:27,200 Speaker 4: them because everyone else was like already in these relationships 150 00:07:27,240 --> 00:07:29,680 Speaker 4: and it was like they didn't really get a fair 151 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:34,240 Speaker 4: shake or like a really good opportunity, Whereas like we 152 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:36,680 Speaker 4: kind of stopped bringing people in and we started doing 153 00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 4: these exercises, and you could really see who was gonna 154 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:43,840 Speaker 4: work well outside of the show and then the money thing, 155 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:49,280 Speaker 4: Like I don't I wasn't privy to this information, but 156 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:54,080 Speaker 4: my thought was, you know, the entire season was about 157 00:07:54,400 --> 00:07:58,080 Speaker 4: these exercises and like if you you know, like can 158 00:07:58,120 --> 00:08:00,560 Speaker 4: you prove to us that like you really are like 159 00:08:00,640 --> 00:08:04,280 Speaker 4: this really strong couple and you know, at the end 160 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:08,640 Speaker 4: people didn't choose money. They chose love, which I thought 161 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:11,960 Speaker 4: was awesome and beautiful, and then they still aren't getting money. 162 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:15,080 Speaker 4: But like my thought was, I wonder if someone had 163 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:19,400 Speaker 4: chosen money, then that would have been the last exercise 164 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:22,240 Speaker 4: and test and they would have failed and had to 165 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 4: leave with nothing. I don't know if that was true 166 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:27,760 Speaker 4: because it never came to fruition, but that was my thought, was, like, 167 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:31,440 Speaker 4: you not here for the right reasons, and now you 168 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:34,000 Speaker 4: got to go, And I would have liked happened, just 169 00:08:34,040 --> 00:08:35,040 Speaker 4: in terms of the same. 170 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:36,760 Speaker 1: I think that would have been insane. 171 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:39,080 Speaker 2: I don't think anyone would have done it. Like do 172 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:43,560 Speaker 2: you think, especially this last cast, choose money. Besides maybe 173 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:46,559 Speaker 2: like the Friendship couples. 174 00:08:46,920 --> 00:08:52,000 Speaker 4: I think that oh god, what was his name? Uh? 175 00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:53,400 Speaker 1: Like was it any of the Goldens? 176 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:57,080 Speaker 4: No? No, well the Golden might have done it. 177 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:02,240 Speaker 1: She was like, hello, yeah, I. 178 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:05,320 Speaker 4: Don't know, I listen. I hasn't been done before for sure, 179 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:06,800 Speaker 4: Like I don't know if you're a fan of the 180 00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:10,480 Speaker 4: show the challenge, but like Johnny Bananas did that. He 181 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:13,400 Speaker 4: like got to the end of the show and it 182 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:14,800 Speaker 4: was like you can split it with your partner or 183 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:16,160 Speaker 4: you can take it all, and he took it all 184 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:19,720 Speaker 4: and it was fantastic television. Now, was he labeled like 185 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:25,000 Speaker 4: the biggest asshole ever after that? Absolutely? But like I 186 00:09:25,080 --> 00:09:26,720 Speaker 4: thought there was a world in which that could happen. 187 00:09:27,640 --> 00:09:28,840 Speaker 3: That's so interesting. 188 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 2: I want to ask to you before we get into 189 00:09:31,679 --> 00:09:33,120 Speaker 2: I mean, we have so many more questions for you. 190 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:36,480 Speaker 2: Were there any couples that surprised you or couples that 191 00:09:36,559 --> 00:09:39,160 Speaker 2: you thought could be good together that maybe never got together. 192 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:48,640 Speaker 4: I wish that Sam had stuck around longer. What I 193 00:09:48,760 --> 00:09:54,880 Speaker 4: love about Paradise is it is a redemption story for everyone. Right, Like, generally, 194 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:57,160 Speaker 4: if you were like the bad guy, you get to 195 00:09:57,200 --> 00:09:59,720 Speaker 4: go to Paradise and then you like, it's no fun 196 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:01,720 Speaker 4: if like your character arc is always like you're a 197 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:03,760 Speaker 4: piece of garbage, right, Like that doesn't make any sense. 198 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:07,400 Speaker 4: So for for Sam, I was like, you know, he 199 00:10:07,480 --> 00:10:11,920 Speaker 4: got so much heat right for like what happened, but 200 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:15,480 Speaker 4: like he wasn't wrong, right, Like he might not have 201 00:10:15,520 --> 00:10:17,680 Speaker 4: been right, but he wasn't wrong about. 202 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:19,760 Speaker 2: What you're saying that he wished Jen was Maria. 203 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:25,040 Speaker 4: No, he was saying that Devon was a jag off. 204 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:27,520 Speaker 5: I thought he said Jen was Maria. 205 00:10:27,760 --> 00:10:29,320 Speaker 1: So there were two things that. 206 00:10:29,240 --> 00:10:39,400 Speaker 4: Were I'm talking about calling out Devon right, so I 207 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:42,720 Speaker 4: kind of wonted. I would wish that he that he 208 00:10:42,760 --> 00:10:44,720 Speaker 4: had stayed longer, but then he ended up finding love. 209 00:10:45,160 --> 00:10:50,440 Speaker 4: And you know, I'm annoyed because I'm like, what, Sam, 210 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:51,839 Speaker 4: we could have done this on the show. 211 00:10:52,040 --> 00:10:54,480 Speaker 1: You know, I was like, this entire couple could have 212 00:10:54,520 --> 00:10:56,920 Speaker 1: played out and they like they could have been one 213 00:10:57,040 --> 00:10:57,960 Speaker 1: at the end. Truly. 214 00:10:58,320 --> 00:11:00,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, And if I could have changed some things, I 215 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:03,640 Speaker 4: wish Susie got to stick around longer. 216 00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:05,800 Speaker 1: I love Susie. 217 00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:06,959 Speaker 5: Every time. 218 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:10,160 Speaker 2: I'm like, Susie gets the worst hand every single time, 219 00:11:10,200 --> 00:11:11,160 Speaker 2: and I feel so. 220 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:11,679 Speaker 3: Bad for her. 221 00:11:12,120 --> 00:11:17,160 Speaker 4: Right, And I do think that justin he it was 222 00:11:17,440 --> 00:11:20,600 Speaker 4: he was coming from a good place. I really really, 223 00:11:20,720 --> 00:11:25,200 Speaker 4: I really wish that I had gotten ten minutes with 224 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:28,040 Speaker 4: him before that row ceremony. I really wish I had 225 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:29,679 Speaker 4: because I would have been like, you can't do this. 226 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:33,160 Speaker 4: You like, it's don't do it, because if she doesn't 227 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:36,800 Speaker 4: say that, she doesn't take your rose, you're gonna kill 228 00:11:36,840 --> 00:11:40,120 Speaker 4: off three big stars in one fell suit, which is 229 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:40,800 Speaker 4: what happened. 230 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:42,120 Speaker 3: That was crazy. 231 00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:44,000 Speaker 5: Were you there when that happened. 232 00:11:43,720 --> 00:11:47,400 Speaker 4: Or I mean no, I was at the I was 233 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:50,480 Speaker 4: at the bar obviously that night, and I knew that 234 00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:55,080 Speaker 4: the thought of he was thinking about that. But you know, 235 00:11:55,679 --> 00:11:58,800 Speaker 4: this one was this A lot of people might disagree 236 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:01,200 Speaker 4: with this, but like, this season was so much more 237 00:12:01,280 --> 00:12:03,880 Speaker 4: hands off than it has been in the past. In 238 00:12:03,920 --> 00:12:06,200 Speaker 4: the past, I've been like, please go get him and 239 00:12:06,280 --> 00:12:10,520 Speaker 4: let me tell him what I think, you know, whereas 240 00:12:10,559 --> 00:12:12,160 Speaker 4: this one it was just like, if you wanted to 241 00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:13,480 Speaker 4: come talk to me, you came and talk to me. 242 00:12:14,400 --> 00:12:17,960 Speaker 4: And I wish that that had gone a little bit different. Now. 243 00:12:17,960 --> 00:12:22,600 Speaker 4: Did it make for like an insanely fantastic episode three, Sure, 244 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:26,520 Speaker 4: but I also kind of wish fireworks between them happened 245 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:29,760 Speaker 4: in episode seven. But you can't get everything you want 246 00:12:29,800 --> 00:12:30,360 Speaker 4: in this life. 247 00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:33,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, Were there any couples like that are still together 248 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:37,560 Speaker 1: that are surprising to you? So we have like Andrew 249 00:12:37,640 --> 00:12:41,520 Speaker 1: and Alex, Jess and Spencer. Who am I missing? 250 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:42,800 Speaker 3: No more? 251 00:12:42,840 --> 00:12:50,880 Speaker 6: Cat and Dale that I first of all, let me 252 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:53,520 Speaker 6: just say I love kat like I love her. 253 00:12:53,800 --> 00:12:56,000 Speaker 4: I want her on my TV screen always. 254 00:12:56,440 --> 00:12:59,240 Speaker 1: No, she's great TV phenomenal, Like. 255 00:12:59,480 --> 00:13:05,000 Speaker 4: She's beautiful, she's uh like built for freaking paradise. But 256 00:13:05,080 --> 00:13:08,559 Speaker 4: also she keeps going to these places that is full 257 00:13:08,720 --> 00:13:11,440 Speaker 4: of the one thing that she's terrified of, which is buzz, 258 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:15,960 Speaker 4: and it's she thinks that, like just like walking out 259 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:18,440 Speaker 4: of the door is fear. She thinks she's on Fear 260 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:22,840 Speaker 4: Factor every single day, which just makes for fantastic television. 261 00:13:22,880 --> 00:13:26,000 Speaker 4: I will say this, and you know, you guys both 262 00:13:26,160 --> 00:13:29,320 Speaker 4: know that so much good stuff lands on the cutting 263 00:13:29,400 --> 00:13:33,720 Speaker 4: room floor of seasons, and you know that is also 264 00:13:34,200 --> 00:13:42,680 Speaker 4: very true for Paradise. The the the alex of it all, 265 00:13:42,800 --> 00:13:49,800 Speaker 4: like there, her relationship was was so cute, and like 266 00:13:50,760 --> 00:13:53,200 Speaker 4: they didn't show a whole lot of it. I mean, 267 00:13:53,240 --> 00:13:57,880 Speaker 4: we've got so much of like the jazz relationship, but 268 00:13:57,960 --> 00:14:02,559 Speaker 4: I do wish we had gotten more of of Alexon. 269 00:14:02,600 --> 00:14:07,080 Speaker 4: What's his name, Andrew? And Andrew? Yeah, sorry Andrew. 270 00:14:09,559 --> 00:14:11,160 Speaker 5: He's only been in Paradise twice. 271 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:15,480 Speaker 4: I know, I've done eight seasons, like a thousand people 272 00:14:15,520 --> 00:14:15,720 Speaker 4: I have. 273 00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:26,160 Speaker 1: Everyone blends, Wait quickly, what are your thoughts to on? 274 00:14:26,360 --> 00:14:30,320 Speaker 1: Because I did forget Jeremy and Bailey, like they're so together, 275 00:14:30,400 --> 00:14:32,600 Speaker 1: and that was a very big I think. 276 00:14:34,280 --> 00:14:36,600 Speaker 4: That was the one couple that I could have seen 277 00:14:36,760 --> 00:14:40,040 Speaker 4: them take the money and be like like I see, 278 00:14:40,040 --> 00:14:42,120 Speaker 4: I could have seen Jeremy be like, okay, so here's 279 00:14:42,120 --> 00:14:44,240 Speaker 4: the deal. For sure, take the money and then I'll 280 00:14:44,240 --> 00:14:44,960 Speaker 4: just split it with you. 281 00:14:45,080 --> 00:14:48,440 Speaker 1: After this one person, Wells. 282 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:50,160 Speaker 2: I would have liked to see a conversation with you 283 00:14:50,240 --> 00:14:52,640 Speaker 2: and him, like when the whole in the room like 284 00:14:52,840 --> 00:14:55,040 Speaker 2: him talking about what was happening, Like I. 285 00:14:55,600 --> 00:14:57,840 Speaker 1: Was begging for that. I was like, please bring in 286 00:14:57,880 --> 00:14:59,760 Speaker 1: Wells now because I'm like, you were the only one 287 00:14:59,760 --> 00:15:02,320 Speaker 1: that all. So it was like I feel like speaking 288 00:15:02,360 --> 00:15:05,240 Speaker 1: and calling things out like accordingly, It's like that I 289 00:15:05,280 --> 00:15:07,840 Speaker 1: don't know what was happening with the dynamic of the cast, 290 00:15:07,880 --> 00:15:10,720 Speaker 1: but I'm like I feel like everyone was a little 291 00:15:10,720 --> 00:15:13,800 Speaker 1: hesitant to really voice how they genuinely felt about the 292 00:15:13,840 --> 00:15:16,440 Speaker 1: situation when it's like it's very clear and like, granted 293 00:15:16,720 --> 00:15:19,080 Speaker 1: we probably don't see the full scope of everything as 294 00:15:19,120 --> 00:15:22,320 Speaker 1: the audience, but I'm like, there's some there's some truth 295 00:15:22,360 --> 00:15:23,800 Speaker 1: to this and we're not seeing it all. 296 00:15:24,480 --> 00:15:28,040 Speaker 4: It was really weird. That whole thing was was very 297 00:15:28,160 --> 00:15:31,880 Speaker 4: very odd to me because it was so very obvious 298 00:15:31,920 --> 00:15:33,880 Speaker 4: to me, and it was also very obvious to Hannah. 299 00:15:34,600 --> 00:15:36,800 Speaker 4: She wasn't as vocal about it. I think an interview 300 00:15:36,960 --> 00:15:39,240 Speaker 4: was or let's be honest, like my interview was just 301 00:15:39,240 --> 00:15:40,880 Speaker 4: like over the top and was like what's going on? 302 00:15:40,880 --> 00:15:48,720 Speaker 4: Like this is crazy. Like I remember Andrew and Alex 303 00:15:49,160 --> 00:15:51,000 Speaker 4: came up to me because because they were like really 304 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:56,960 Speaker 4: close with Jeremy and they came up to me and 305 00:15:57,000 --> 00:15:58,440 Speaker 4: they were like, do you do you think this is 306 00:15:58,480 --> 00:16:00,680 Speaker 4: going to look bad? And I was like, it's not 307 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:02,640 Speaker 4: going to look good. I'll tell you that. Like it 308 00:16:03,520 --> 00:16:06,480 Speaker 4: from the outside looking in, it looks like you guys 309 00:16:06,520 --> 00:16:09,440 Speaker 4: don't give a shit about Bailey's feelings. Like that's what 310 00:16:09,480 --> 00:16:12,600 Speaker 4: it looks like to me. And like in this world 311 00:16:12,680 --> 00:16:14,560 Speaker 4: of like being a girl's girl and everything, like I 312 00:16:14,560 --> 00:16:16,520 Speaker 4: think that falls more on you. Like I couldn't understand 313 00:16:16,560 --> 00:16:20,400 Speaker 4: Andrew like wanting to like back his boy but for 314 00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:22,160 Speaker 4: the girls. I was just like I don't get this. 315 00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:23,800 Speaker 4: I think this is going to be a bad look. 316 00:16:25,280 --> 00:16:28,200 Speaker 4: But yeah, like it was. That was what like of 317 00:16:28,240 --> 00:16:30,240 Speaker 4: all the wild things that have happened in Paradise, that 318 00:16:30,280 --> 00:16:32,760 Speaker 4: one to me. I was just like I remember talking 319 00:16:32,760 --> 00:16:34,320 Speaker 4: to a producer being like, put me in an interview 320 00:16:34,400 --> 00:16:35,880 Speaker 4: right now, I have to talk about this. 321 00:16:36,480 --> 00:16:38,880 Speaker 1: This is I love that crazy. 322 00:16:39,080 --> 00:16:41,520 Speaker 2: And it was just like crazy because at the time too, 323 00:16:41,560 --> 00:16:43,880 Speaker 2: we were getting all these interviews from Bailey, and everyone 324 00:16:43,880 --> 00:16:45,280 Speaker 2: wanted to know, like, oh my gosh, what were you 325 00:16:45,320 --> 00:16:47,360 Speaker 2: thinking in this moment? But they were together, so it 326 00:16:47,360 --> 00:16:49,680 Speaker 2: felt like she's always kind of like held back how 327 00:16:49,760 --> 00:16:51,080 Speaker 2: she felt in that moment. 328 00:16:51,280 --> 00:16:54,000 Speaker 5: So well, craziness. 329 00:16:54,520 --> 00:16:57,960 Speaker 2: Absolutely a great season. Excited to see the next one. 330 00:16:57,960 --> 00:16:59,480 Speaker 2: And if they implement any of these. 331 00:16:59,400 --> 00:17:02,400 Speaker 4: Changes, yeah, I know, And you can't do the same 332 00:17:02,440 --> 00:17:04,879 Speaker 4: thing that we did before, right because people kind of 333 00:17:05,080 --> 00:17:07,399 Speaker 4: know what the playbook is, so then it's going to 334 00:17:07,440 --> 00:17:10,720 Speaker 4: be a thing of you're probably always going to have 335 00:17:10,840 --> 00:17:14,879 Speaker 4: to be tinkering with the idea of it. But I 336 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:17,159 Speaker 4: tell you what, man, you know I was. I was 337 00:17:17,200 --> 00:17:21,159 Speaker 4: also very nervous about like what the Goldens were going 338 00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:24,720 Speaker 4: to be like one because like Rachel, you've you've done 339 00:17:24,840 --> 00:17:27,959 Speaker 4: that season, Like it's long hours, it's freaking hot, like 340 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:30,920 Speaker 4: it's not for the faint of heart. And I was like, someone, 341 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:32,720 Speaker 4: I just don't want some Golden to like die on 342 00:17:32,840 --> 00:17:35,760 Speaker 4: me out here. But I was so wrong about that 343 00:17:35,960 --> 00:17:40,960 Speaker 4: because they had so much more energy than the Youngs did. 344 00:17:41,920 --> 00:17:46,239 Speaker 4: Yes when they came in, because it was like it 345 00:17:46,280 --> 00:17:48,240 Speaker 4: was so when they came in. It was the day 346 00:17:48,280 --> 00:17:52,399 Speaker 4: after Susie and Justin's debacle and it was like the 347 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:55,760 Speaker 4: Red Wedding. Like afterwards, everyone was just like in the 348 00:17:55,800 --> 00:17:59,119 Speaker 4: worst mood ever. And I'm like, I remember I had 349 00:17:59,160 --> 00:18:01,119 Speaker 4: to come to work early because they were like, we 350 00:18:01,160 --> 00:18:03,399 Speaker 4: need you to get them some we need to like 351 00:18:03,480 --> 00:18:06,240 Speaker 4: eject some life into this thing. Yes, and so I 352 00:18:06,359 --> 00:18:10,040 Speaker 4: was like we're doing shocks. Everyone like let's go. And 353 00:18:10,040 --> 00:18:13,280 Speaker 4: then I remember being like, guys, you guys are so boring. 354 00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:15,280 Speaker 4: We're making a TV show and you guys are all sad, 355 00:18:15,400 --> 00:18:17,760 Speaker 4: like come on, like let's go. And then the Goldens 356 00:18:17,800 --> 00:18:21,040 Speaker 4: came in and they were like the life of the party. 357 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:24,119 Speaker 4: So I would love them to do just a Golden's paradise. 358 00:18:24,160 --> 00:18:25,240 Speaker 4: I think that would be so fun. 359 00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:29,880 Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, they should separate. That's I'm so this decision. 360 00:18:29,960 --> 00:18:31,760 Speaker 2: It was not fair that there were six boys and 361 00:18:31,800 --> 00:18:32,440 Speaker 2: six girls. 362 00:18:32,720 --> 00:18:36,119 Speaker 4: Yeah, they they didn't get a fair shake of it. 363 00:18:36,520 --> 00:18:40,959 Speaker 4: I've pitched this before, and so you know, Rob Mills, 364 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:44,359 Speaker 4: if you're listening, I have said this so many times before, 365 00:18:44,440 --> 00:18:48,000 Speaker 4: but like, can we do a paradise for the Goldens? 366 00:18:48,040 --> 00:18:50,119 Speaker 4: But it needs to be like in Scottsdale or like 367 00:18:50,200 --> 00:18:53,800 Speaker 4: Palm Springs and like everyone shows up to Rose ceremonies 368 00:18:53,800 --> 00:18:57,439 Speaker 4: and golf carts and like it's shuffleboard and like dinner 369 00:18:57,440 --> 00:19:02,399 Speaker 4: happens at FOT Like yeah, through all the people tropes. Uh, 370 00:19:02,480 --> 00:19:04,280 Speaker 4: it would be so funny. 371 00:19:05,800 --> 00:19:07,200 Speaker 5: Are you and Kathy host it? 372 00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:07,880 Speaker 4: Yeah? 373 00:19:07,960 --> 00:19:10,919 Speaker 1: No, Kathy has to be No, but Kathy has to 374 00:19:10,960 --> 00:19:13,200 Speaker 1: be in it. Like what do you mean, Yeah, yeah, 375 00:19:13,840 --> 00:19:16,600 Speaker 1: Kathy has She is one of the main stars, if 376 00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:17,399 Speaker 1: not the star. 377 00:19:20,560 --> 00:19:22,480 Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, so good. 378 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:23,159 Speaker 1: I love that. 379 00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:24,920 Speaker 2: Should we get into some Traders? 380 00:19:25,240 --> 00:19:27,680 Speaker 1: I think so, because well, I hate to be a 381 00:19:27,760 --> 00:19:30,880 Speaker 1: little messy here, but I have to a little bit. 382 00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:36,840 Speaker 1: You obviously have been on Traders and with the Bachelor World, 383 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:41,040 Speaker 1: I feel like there's some conversations and things happening a 384 00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:45,040 Speaker 1: little bit surrounding Coulton, and I'm curious to know your 385 00:19:45,080 --> 00:19:47,199 Speaker 1: thoughts on it. What do you feel like is going 386 00:19:47,280 --> 00:19:50,720 Speaker 1: to happen at the reunion? Are you all like caught up? Obviously? 387 00:19:50,760 --> 00:19:51,600 Speaker 1: I'm assuming Yes. 388 00:19:52,080 --> 00:19:54,879 Speaker 4: Yes. I do a podcast about Traders called by Order 389 00:19:54,880 --> 00:19:59,240 Speaker 4: of the Faithfuls that I do with Dolores Catana, who 390 00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:01,960 Speaker 4: won the season I was on season three, and Timbra 391 00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:04,400 Speaker 4: Judge who was on season two. So I have to 392 00:20:04,440 --> 00:20:07,320 Speaker 4: talk about Traders all the time. So if you love Traders, 393 00:20:07,320 --> 00:20:12,439 Speaker 4: go listen to that podcast. But yeah, Colton, it's not 394 00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:15,840 Speaker 4: going great. I think. I think that's a fair way 395 00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:19,280 Speaker 4: of putting it. I've heard rumors of like what happened 396 00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:22,359 Speaker 4: at the reunion, and I was. 397 00:20:22,359 --> 00:20:25,920 Speaker 2: About to say, Lisa Renna is like airing it out fully, She's. 398 00:20:25,680 --> 00:20:30,800 Speaker 4: Going on so she's going in on him, and yeah, 399 00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:36,320 Speaker 4: like listen, My thought is this with Colton right, Like 400 00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:39,320 Speaker 4: so he kind of like left public eye. He kind 401 00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:41,399 Speaker 4: of he did like one dating show I think with Caitlin, 402 00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:43,840 Speaker 4: but I don't know if anyone really watched that, so 403 00:20:44,280 --> 00:20:47,879 Speaker 4: I don't know. Uh, to me, he kind of like 404 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:51,080 Speaker 4: left the public right, But like he did have this 405 00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:53,879 Speaker 4: this turmoil with the girl he left the show with, 406 00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:58,240 Speaker 4: and you know, it got really messy. And I think 407 00:20:58,280 --> 00:21:00,480 Speaker 4: if he wants to be in the public eye, he's 408 00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:03,280 Speaker 4: gonna have to go through this, Like he has to 409 00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:07,400 Speaker 4: answer for some of these things. He has to atone 410 00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:11,760 Speaker 4: for a lot of this stuff. And I think that, like, 411 00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:15,200 Speaker 4: I'm sure for him right now, walking through this is very, 412 00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:18,760 Speaker 4: very difficult. But I think looking back, he'll probably think 413 00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:22,360 Speaker 4: it was a blessing because it was. It allows him 414 00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:25,239 Speaker 4: to finally like kind of wash himself clean of like 415 00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:30,360 Speaker 4: all that stuff that happened in the past. It's funny though, 416 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:33,240 Speaker 4: because Traders, for me, I always thought it was a 417 00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:38,199 Speaker 4: place where like villains go to be discovered as like 418 00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:41,560 Speaker 4: not that bad case in point on my season stand 419 00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:44,479 Speaker 4: of all was there, but maybe the most hated person 420 00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:49,359 Speaker 4: in the world. He was hilarious and like I think you. 421 00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:51,679 Speaker 2: Guys are saying, I still think about that scene. 422 00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:57,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, and he was. 423 00:21:57,280 --> 00:22:02,359 Speaker 2: Just fully like sweating the entire time, like always like 424 00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:04,520 Speaker 2: what's going on? 425 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:10,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, So but like he walked out of that I think, 426 00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:19,320 Speaker 4: looking so much better, and so I just for sure, yeah, everything, No, 427 00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:21,280 Speaker 4: but I do think that like he had more of 428 00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:23,359 Speaker 4: like a redemptive arc, which is kind of what I 429 00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:25,159 Speaker 4: thought would happen with Colton, but it was gone the 430 00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:27,800 Speaker 4: other way. So I don't know. I mean, I'm interested 431 00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:32,000 Speaker 4: to see how uh, I'm interested to see how this 432 00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:34,639 Speaker 4: reunion goes. Like we had Michael Rappaport on the show. 433 00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:37,080 Speaker 4: He was like, I don't want to go to the reunion, 434 00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:39,040 Speaker 4: and I was like, you gotta go one because I 435 00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:41,399 Speaker 4: just want to see you on TV. But like you 436 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:44,040 Speaker 4: got to talk about all of this stuff. You have 437 00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:46,959 Speaker 4: to probably apologize to Colton for what he said, Like 438 00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:48,919 Speaker 4: there are things like I think you need to go do, 439 00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:52,359 Speaker 4: so I'm excited about that. Like Ron Funches is, I 440 00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:56,359 Speaker 4: think he's going to dismantle some people on that panel 441 00:22:56,680 --> 00:23:01,080 Speaker 4: in the reunion because Ron was right, Raw was wronged. 442 00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:04,760 Speaker 4: And Ron is a stand up comedian, like he does 443 00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:10,640 Speaker 4: roasts and talks shit for a living a living, and 444 00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:13,120 Speaker 4: now he like he's no longer in the castle. He's 445 00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:15,000 Speaker 4: going to go in there, and I think he's going 446 00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:18,560 Speaker 4: to eviscerate everyone, and I'm very excited for it. 447 00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:22,240 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, I'm curious what your thoughts are, because 448 00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:24,800 Speaker 2: do you think this season would have panned out differently 449 00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:29,480 Speaker 2: if this all didn't come to light about Colon. I 450 00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:32,200 Speaker 2: will say they are like maybe editing it, like now 451 00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:34,520 Speaker 2: that this information is out. 452 00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:40,680 Speaker 4: I don't know. I gotta think that that they knew 453 00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:43,400 Speaker 4: that this was a possibility, right, Like they knew. 454 00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:45,800 Speaker 2: Though he had that Netflix special and no one said anything. 455 00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:50,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know. I don't know if they're editing it, 456 00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:53,520 Speaker 4: you know now because of everything. He's also off the 457 00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:56,000 Speaker 4: show now, so like it doesn't exactly really matter, Like 458 00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:58,359 Speaker 4: I think it'll be really telling to see what happens 459 00:23:58,400 --> 00:23:59,120 Speaker 4: in this reunion. 460 00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:03,080 Speaker 1: But I feel like, and maybe I'm wrong for saying this, 461 00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:06,880 Speaker 1: but I think that what just like people ultimately want 462 00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:09,040 Speaker 1: to see, which is why like Will saying like it's 463 00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:11,040 Speaker 1: a good thing that he's going through this, and like 464 00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:13,359 Speaker 1: on the flip side of it, obviously he will probably 465 00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:15,440 Speaker 1: be a lot more grateful that all this happened the 466 00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:18,280 Speaker 1: way it did. It doesn't mean that it's not hard, 467 00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:22,000 Speaker 1: but I think like with Colton, there's like a level 468 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:24,600 Speaker 1: of him that almost wants to act like it never 469 00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:26,359 Speaker 1: happened or just kind of like keep it where it is. 470 00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:28,680 Speaker 1: And like the big thing that people just ultimately want 471 00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:31,560 Speaker 1: to see is like accountability and then also less of 472 00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:33,720 Speaker 1: like a victim complex of like woe is me? 473 00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:34,720 Speaker 4: Like I also was. 474 00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:37,159 Speaker 1: Going through these things, Like two things can exist, but 475 00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:40,480 Speaker 1: like that still does not you know, entitle you to like, 476 00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:44,040 Speaker 1: you know, do what happened, especially with you know, his 477 00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:48,320 Speaker 1: situation with his final one, and so yeah, I don't know, 478 00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:51,360 Speaker 1: I feel like that's just what people want to see, 479 00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:53,800 Speaker 1: and the more that it's getting pushed off is what's 480 00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:56,680 Speaker 1: making this whole a lot deeper. In my opinion. 481 00:24:57,359 --> 00:25:00,639 Speaker 4: I agree. I hope that what he ends up doing, 482 00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:04,800 Speaker 4: you know, at this reunion is is really like a 483 00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:07,560 Speaker 4: toning for everything. But I wanted to ask you guys, 484 00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:12,359 Speaker 4: like I'm a guy, so I looked at it differently. 485 00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:15,439 Speaker 4: But but I'm sure women have a very very different 486 00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:20,640 Speaker 4: take of this, like what is like can he ever 487 00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:24,719 Speaker 4: like look good in your eyes again? Or is it 488 00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:26,280 Speaker 4: scorched earth for you guys? 489 00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:31,400 Speaker 1: For me again, like my whole thing is like taking 490 00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:34,639 Speaker 1: accountability when you own your wrongs. I'm like, okay, like 491 00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:37,040 Speaker 1: I can't. I'm not someone who doesn't extend grace to 492 00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:38,960 Speaker 1: people like I am all for them. I do think 493 00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:42,080 Speaker 1: that people are deserving of second chances. But it's like 494 00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:45,840 Speaker 1: your second chance just doesn't come essentially free, like there 495 00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:47,560 Speaker 1: is I don't want to say a price that you 496 00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:50,240 Speaker 1: have to pay, but it's just simply taking accountability. And 497 00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:52,439 Speaker 1: I don't feel like, you know, I was reading a 498 00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:55,520 Speaker 1: thing he did, an interview, and like I saw where 499 00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:58,119 Speaker 1: he like basically said, don't ask me any questions, like 500 00:25:58,160 --> 00:25:59,760 Speaker 1: this conversation is off limits. 501 00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:00,480 Speaker 3: My head. 502 00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:02,840 Speaker 1: I'm like, that's a part of your story of like 503 00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:05,720 Speaker 1: how you are where you are at right now. How 504 00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:07,560 Speaker 1: you got to where you're at, like the life that 505 00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:09,880 Speaker 1: was before, and I think that there is a full 506 00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:12,520 Speaker 1: picture of Okay, yeah, what I did there was not 507 00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:15,520 Speaker 1: good and it's like not who I am now. But 508 00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:18,400 Speaker 1: to act like, oh, you did nothing wrong like that, 509 00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:20,560 Speaker 1: that part is where I'm like, I have a problem 510 00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:23,080 Speaker 1: agreeing with and in my head, I can't really like 511 00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:27,240 Speaker 1: essentially forgive until that part happens. But I do understand 512 00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:28,720 Speaker 1: that there's a lot of things and it's a very 513 00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:32,359 Speaker 1: complex situation, but I'm just not fond of people acting 514 00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:35,160 Speaker 1: and really screaming and pulling the victim cards. So that's 515 00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:36,000 Speaker 1: just how I feel. 516 00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:39,000 Speaker 3: Rachel Wana, No, I mean I have so many thoughts 517 00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:39,280 Speaker 3: on it. 518 00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:41,040 Speaker 2: I mean, I think, number one, this is so hard 519 00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:44,719 Speaker 2: because Cassie has fully moved on. She's married, like and 520 00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:47,560 Speaker 2: now this is all coming back to life, and like 521 00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:50,439 Speaker 2: Charity said, of course, he does need to atone for 522 00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:53,560 Speaker 2: all of this, but at this point, any atonement that 523 00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:55,359 Speaker 2: comes is going to be because he needs to like 524 00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:57,879 Speaker 2: repair his image. Like if we didn't get this in 525 00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:00,160 Speaker 2: the Netflix special where he was sitting down top talking 526 00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:03,639 Speaker 2: about his life and being like I did this, like 527 00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:06,520 Speaker 2: I was going through something it's like, Okay, he was 528 00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:09,359 Speaker 2: mentally in a really bad space, but now it just 529 00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:11,399 Speaker 2: feels like he's like, all right, I've gotten away with 530 00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:14,359 Speaker 2: so much that it's like no one cares anymore. And 531 00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:16,520 Speaker 2: it really feels like Demi is the one that Demi 532 00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:18,080 Speaker 2: from his season is the one who kind of brought 533 00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:20,680 Speaker 2: this all to light, and she's like, no, you will 534 00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:28,880 Speaker 2: pay for what happened, and she scares me. She brought 535 00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:30,600 Speaker 2: the house down, she started this. 536 00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:33,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, she was so fun to do the show with, 537 00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:36,399 Speaker 4: but do not be on the wrong side of. 538 00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:41,360 Speaker 1: Truly, which I didn't even know this side of her existed. 539 00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:43,480 Speaker 1: Like always she was like fun and spunky, but I 540 00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:45,119 Speaker 1: was like, oh, period, sister is she. 541 00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:50,240 Speaker 5: Said the world. Yeah, it's crazy. 542 00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:50,720 Speaker 3: I don't know. 543 00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:53,159 Speaker 2: It just to me feels like at this point you 544 00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:56,560 Speaker 2: can apologize, but if, like Charity said, you're saying in interviews, 545 00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:58,120 Speaker 2: don't bring it up, then you're not. 546 00:27:58,040 --> 00:27:59,000 Speaker 3: Really sorry for it. 547 00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:01,119 Speaker 2: Unless there's a legal reason they can't talk about it, 548 00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:01,520 Speaker 2: which I. 549 00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:12,280 Speaker 1: Right, and that's yeah, we don't know, but very complex. 550 00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:14,160 Speaker 4: It's gonna be juicy. I mean, we can't talk about 551 00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:16,080 Speaker 4: traders without talking about Rob though I. 552 00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:17,720 Speaker 3: Was gonna ask your thoughts on Rob. 553 00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:23,280 Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, spill dare I say the best trader 554 00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:24,760 Speaker 4: that has ever been. 555 00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:26,920 Speaker 1: His play game is insane. 556 00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:33,440 Speaker 4: He is so good, like he's so chill, and he's 557 00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:36,400 Speaker 4: got everyone digmatized, which is great, like. 558 00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:39,800 Speaker 1: Everyone everyone rael. 559 00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:45,200 Speaker 4: I get it, like look at him. I mean, but 560 00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:51,360 Speaker 4: like he's playing such a good game, and you know, 561 00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:54,200 Speaker 4: I think he's he's gonna get Eric killed. 562 00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:58,600 Speaker 2: Oh, Eric already episode the first one, he was like 563 00:28:58,680 --> 00:28:59,960 Speaker 2: showing signs that he had the crow. 564 00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:03,640 Speaker 5: I think Johnny should have been picked. 565 00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:07,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, would say, okay, so here's I don't know if 566 00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:08,600 Speaker 4: he's gonna do this, but I was thinking about this, 567 00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:10,360 Speaker 4: and I was talking about this on my other show 568 00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:16,760 Speaker 4: that like he's he is killing so many traders right, 569 00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:20,800 Speaker 4: like he is really helping traders get ousted and then 570 00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:24,320 Speaker 4: just keeping him in the turret. So he's now having 571 00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:27,400 Speaker 4: to bring in people and then he's getting them killed, 572 00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:32,479 Speaker 4: like he's gonna get Eric killed. At some point, someone's 573 00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:35,040 Speaker 4: gonna come in and be like you, but you voted 574 00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:37,880 Speaker 4: for Lisa, but you voted for Canada, you voted for Eric. 575 00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:41,719 Speaker 4: And he could always say because they have no idea, 576 00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:45,560 Speaker 4: I was recruited yesterday, and if he does that, then 577 00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:50,880 Speaker 4: it clears him from being someone that the other trader 578 00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:53,080 Speaker 4: might be like suspicious of. He'd be like, I just 579 00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:55,400 Speaker 4: got recruited, and if he does that, which will be 580 00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:59,560 Speaker 4: genius because it's not true. And he continues this thing 581 00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:02,400 Speaker 4: of like I'm just going to keep moving the chess 582 00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:06,080 Speaker 4: pieces around and getting every trader out and just keeping 583 00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:10,360 Speaker 4: me in the turret. I don't know, like yeah, like 584 00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:13,040 Speaker 4: I said, dare I say the best trader we've ever had. 585 00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:16,760 Speaker 4: It's such a funny start contrast between season three and 586 00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:19,480 Speaker 4: season four, because on my season what ended up getting 587 00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:22,880 Speaker 4: me banished was I said the traders are dumb. That 588 00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:26,480 Speaker 4: was a dumb move, and people took like an exception 589 00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:31,040 Speaker 4: to that, but I was right, like they banished Derinda 590 00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:35,640 Speaker 4: or they killed Derinda, which was just like, for TV's sake, 591 00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:38,440 Speaker 4: don't do that. But we were all going to banish 592 00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:40,080 Speaker 4: her the next day. And I was like, that's dumb 593 00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:42,800 Speaker 4: because we were gonna do the work for them. Go 594 00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:45,040 Speaker 4: get someone else out that like is more a threat 595 00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:47,320 Speaker 4: to you than someone that we're probably all going to 596 00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:49,640 Speaker 4: vote for anyway. So I was like, you guys are dumb. 597 00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:51,680 Speaker 4: And then they ended up being so dumb. Like I 598 00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:56,640 Speaker 4: feel like the Traders my season were like I love 599 00:30:56,680 --> 00:30:58,400 Speaker 4: them all and they're all friends of mine, but like 600 00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:03,120 Speaker 4: insanely stupid, like making bad moves. Whereas this season, I'm like, 601 00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:06,760 Speaker 4: oh my god, this this rob guy is He's playing 602 00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:07,680 Speaker 4: it so well. 603 00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:11,840 Speaker 2: I think their decision to make a twenty year old 604 00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:15,959 Speaker 2: man a trader like they are the best gas lighters ever. Like, 605 00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:19,160 Speaker 2: I like this was the best move. No one can 606 00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:21,400 Speaker 2: look into your eyes and lie like a twenty year 607 00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:21,760 Speaker 2: old man. 608 00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:24,920 Speaker 4: Yeah he believes that too, No exactly. 609 00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:27,680 Speaker 1: I was like with his looks, he knows what he's doing. 610 00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:31,120 Speaker 3: He knows he knows. Do you think well that? 611 00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:33,480 Speaker 2: I mean, I've seen some people talking on line that 612 00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:35,720 Speaker 2: maybe his game is getting a little bit messy now 613 00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:38,000 Speaker 2: though with like so many people knowing about the Dagger, 614 00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:42,400 Speaker 2: he seems like he's just a little overconfident at this point. 615 00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:45,959 Speaker 4: Yeah. Like in the last episode where he's like lounging 616 00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:48,360 Speaker 4: in the Billiard's room and Eric's like, how is he 617 00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:51,440 Speaker 4: doing this? He's got his arms like over his head 618 00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:54,000 Speaker 4: and he's like lounging with his tank top on. He 619 00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:58,200 Speaker 4: might be a little too comfortable. Listen, but we're getting 620 00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:03,920 Speaker 4: down to the nitty gritty it all where it's it 621 00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:08,280 Speaker 4: has to get messy, right, And so he needs to 622 00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:12,920 Speaker 4: continue to play a smart game, keep his alliances really 623 00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:17,000 Speaker 4: really tight, and I think he needs to continue to 624 00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:21,960 Speaker 4: be picking faithfuls to come into the turret that he 625 00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:28,160 Speaker 4: can easily vote off. And uh and I think I 626 00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:30,840 Speaker 4: don't know what happens. I think he's going to win it. 627 00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:34,920 Speaker 4: I think that, Yeah, I think that like more it 628 00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:39,880 Speaker 4: would be like Moura and uh more on being like 629 00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:43,440 Speaker 4: there's no way that Rob's a trader and like won't 630 00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:46,080 Speaker 4: and we'll think he's faithful and be wrong. 631 00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:46,400 Speaker 2: Yeah. 632 00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:48,160 Speaker 3: And I think Natalie the same way. 633 00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:50,959 Speaker 2: They're like in his pocket to a point that like, 634 00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:52,600 Speaker 2: I think he's just so common he. 635 00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:55,760 Speaker 1: Set it up that way. So listen, what. 636 00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:59,200 Speaker 2: Are your thoughts on there being two Housewives traders? 637 00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:02,440 Speaker 4: I loved it. You know, it was always a theory, 638 00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:04,840 Speaker 4: at least on my season, and I know on a 639 00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:07,920 Speaker 4: season passed of like, well, there has to be a 640 00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:10,360 Speaker 4: housewife in the turret, like and so that's why housewives 641 00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:12,280 Speaker 4: would always get kind of knocked off because it was 642 00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:15,360 Speaker 4: one they had so much power in numbers, and that 643 00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:19,320 Speaker 4: scares people because you can really move around table that way. 644 00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:23,760 Speaker 4: But also it's just like statistically speaking, and also like 645 00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:27,719 Speaker 4: if you're a if you have somewhat of a produce 646 00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:33,640 Speaker 4: sorial mind, it's like, well it's they're like Bravos flagship thing. 647 00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:37,200 Speaker 4: This is a huge thing for Peacock. We want to 648 00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:39,720 Speaker 4: make sure that those people get as much screen time 649 00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:42,959 Speaker 4: as possible vis a vis there in the turret all 650 00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:45,520 Speaker 4: the time. So that was always the thought of, like, 651 00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:47,840 Speaker 4: there has to be a there has to be a 652 00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:52,840 Speaker 4: housewife up there, and there never really was, but I 653 00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:55,640 Speaker 4: mean there was, but like not like is was this 654 00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:59,800 Speaker 4: season with with Canvas and Lisa both being up there, 655 00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:02,000 Speaker 4: and I think that was great because there was all 656 00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:06,800 Speaker 4: this precedent of like, they're not Alan's never choosing housewives 657 00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:08,920 Speaker 4: to be up there really and then it was just 658 00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:11,680 Speaker 4: like those all housewives and then like the Snake Wrangler 659 00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:13,880 Speaker 4: that like no one knows I. 660 00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:15,560 Speaker 2: Was rooting for them, like I'm like, am I supposed 661 00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:16,640 Speaker 2: to be rooting for the Traders? 662 00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:18,360 Speaker 3: This hard like anytime they. 663 00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:20,160 Speaker 2: Did something a little bit like that, they could get 664 00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:21,600 Speaker 2: caught like no, like. 665 00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:24,319 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the thing, because they played like they did 666 00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:26,200 Speaker 1: it so good and obviously Rob's like kind of like 667 00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:28,239 Speaker 1: the leader of that. It makes you want to root 668 00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:30,680 Speaker 1: for them, which is crazy. Yeah. 669 00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:32,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, So what do you think is gonna happen though? 670 00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:36,360 Speaker 4: Like I feel like Johnny and Tara are gonna get 671 00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:37,800 Speaker 4: ousted real quick. 672 00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:39,960 Speaker 2: What were your thoughts on like the best friend like 673 00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:41,160 Speaker 2: them talking about that? 674 00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:42,799 Speaker 3: Do you think that was a good game move? 675 00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:43,960 Speaker 2: Uh? 676 00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:45,920 Speaker 4: No, I think I think that they should have been 677 00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:51,320 Speaker 4: honest from the jump because it's so hard. It's they're 678 00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:54,160 Speaker 4: really long hours. It's hard to like keep up this 679 00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:58,160 Speaker 4: like we're not really friends thing, and so I think 680 00:34:58,160 --> 00:34:59,839 Speaker 4: that they should have just been honest from the jump. 681 00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:02,360 Speaker 4: Rob said it in that interview, like right before the 682 00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:05,560 Speaker 4: end of the episode. He was like, they've given me 683 00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:09,160 Speaker 4: gold on a silver platter, Like I now can be like, 684 00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:12,399 Speaker 4: but you guys have been lying this entire time. That's 685 00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:15,880 Speaker 4: something a trader would do. Boom. Also, I have two votes, 686 00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:20,000 Speaker 4: so I'm gonna kill you. You know, Yes, I think 687 00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:21,719 Speaker 4: what he's gonna do. I think he's gonna use his 688 00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:26,280 Speaker 4: two votes on killing someone he thinks is a trader 689 00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:30,280 Speaker 4: m hm, or not think someone he knows is a trader, 690 00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:33,960 Speaker 4: because then it gives him the like, well, if I'm 691 00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:36,200 Speaker 4: a trader, why would I get out another trader? You know, 692 00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:38,359 Speaker 4: like gives him plausible deniability. 693 00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:42,680 Speaker 2: Wait, that's such a good, such a no. I can't 694 00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:44,600 Speaker 2: wait to see how it all plays out. 695 00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:47,120 Speaker 4: I know this has been the best season thus far. 696 00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:50,319 Speaker 1: It's been an insane season, so good before we like 697 00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:53,600 Speaker 1: move on from traders, is there anybody that you think 698 00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:56,160 Speaker 1: or would want to see from Bachelor that you think 699 00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:59,400 Speaker 1: would do really good on it? Like my votes Jimmy, 700 00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:04,760 Speaker 1: she would be great, but I don't know she would 701 00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:06,120 Speaker 1: be a good trader. 702 00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:14,160 Speaker 4: You know. I I think that Jesse would be good. 703 00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:18,400 Speaker 4: Oh really Yeah, And I've said this before, Like Jesse's 704 00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:23,360 Speaker 4: he's got that like rain Man quarterback mine where like 705 00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:27,479 Speaker 4: he's like kind of a genius. Like I've seen him. 706 00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:31,600 Speaker 4: I've seen him absorb like four pages of copy and 707 00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:33,680 Speaker 4: hit a mark and do it one time and then 708 00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:35,200 Speaker 4: be like I got to get out of here. How 709 00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:37,480 Speaker 4: did you memorize all that? And I'm married to an 710 00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:41,560 Speaker 4: actress who can do that like on cue. I'm always 711 00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:45,520 Speaker 4: like super impressed by him. He's also really so that like, 712 00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:48,680 Speaker 4: to be a good trader, you have to be really 713 00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:52,200 Speaker 4: smart and you also have to be really likable, and 714 00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:55,319 Speaker 4: he's both of those things, and he's also used to 715 00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:57,560 Speaker 4: like really long hours. That the one thing that like 716 00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:01,640 Speaker 4: we talk about a lot on My Traders podcast is 717 00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:05,880 Speaker 4: it's it's so much harder for women to be traders 718 00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:08,960 Speaker 4: than for men. And this might come across as like sexist, 719 00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:12,719 Speaker 4: but the truth of the matter is is that the 720 00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:17,280 Speaker 4: time of which we film in Scotland is in the summer, 721 00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:19,680 Speaker 4: and so the days are really really long, so the 722 00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:22,720 Speaker 4: night doesn't really happen until like midnight, so you can't 723 00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:27,160 Speaker 4: go film trader stuff into like two or three, and 724 00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:29,880 Speaker 4: then your call times are like eight and and you 725 00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:31,680 Speaker 4: know you have to drive long distancing. 726 00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:33,520 Speaker 5: Hey, this is the story of a bachelorette. 727 00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:37,520 Speaker 1: I was like, well, this sounds very similar. 728 00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:40,839 Speaker 4: But then they have so then they have to get 729 00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:42,160 Speaker 4: up early because they have to do much, so much 730 00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:44,000 Speaker 4: more makeup than like something like Rob who like doesn't 731 00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:46,960 Speaker 4: do anything right, and so like you can never sleep 732 00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:50,799 Speaker 4: and and so that's a big tell you when you 733 00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:53,200 Speaker 4: sit in that breakfast room you're looking to see who 734 00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:55,520 Speaker 4: looks tired, Like, it's a big. 735 00:37:57,680 --> 00:37:59,520 Speaker 2: Do you guys actually eat that many eggs? 736 00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:05,279 Speaker 4: Yeah? Because the food sucks there really so bad. 737 00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:08,959 Speaker 2: Is this salmon like they talked about I was about 738 00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:09,760 Speaker 2: to ask about the salmon. 739 00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:13,960 Speaker 4: It's like the only thing that is somewhat good. Like 740 00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:21,359 Speaker 4: it's so much like the Scottish uh Scottish breakfast, which 741 00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:26,480 Speaker 4: is like beans and like a wet half cooked tomatoes, 742 00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:31,960 Speaker 4: and like their bacon is like not good at Like 743 00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:35,440 Speaker 4: it was not not a great breakfast. 744 00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:37,319 Speaker 1: They make it look so good. 745 00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:40,640 Speaker 4: Help well because it's like they're like, oh, that sad. 746 00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:44,000 Speaker 4: It's like the one thing that like, yeah, is consistently good. 747 00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:47,080 Speaker 3: Wow, oh my gosh. 748 00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:48,920 Speaker 1: All the facts. I'm like, I need it. 749 00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:51,840 Speaker 3: I know, I have so many questions that yeah, okay. 750 00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:54,040 Speaker 2: Last one, last one. Is there anyone on this season 751 00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:56,160 Speaker 2: that is a faithful that you thought would have made 752 00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:59,400 Speaker 2: an amazing trader? Because I have a thought, and I 753 00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:00,520 Speaker 2: don't know if I've right or wrong. 754 00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:08,799 Speaker 4: I mean, I would have liked to see Rapaport as 755 00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:11,680 Speaker 4: a trader, because I just I don't know how he 756 00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:12,520 Speaker 4: would have played it. 757 00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:14,520 Speaker 5: He would have gotten voted off so quick. 758 00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:20,319 Speaker 4: Do the thing they did with Donna. I thought that 759 00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:23,120 Speaker 4: was a bad play and it like just didn't work. 760 00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:28,360 Speaker 4: I don't know, you tell me what you think, and 761 00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:29,560 Speaker 4: I'll tell you if I agree with you. 762 00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:32,239 Speaker 2: Okay, I think Mark Ballas would have been the best 763 00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:36,160 Speaker 2: trader ever. He's so quiet, everyone trusts him, like everyone 764 00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:38,319 Speaker 2: looks to him. I'm like he would have been like 765 00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:39,160 Speaker 2: up there with Rob. 766 00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:42,120 Speaker 4: I feel I think that that still might happen. I 767 00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:43,000 Speaker 4: think that you. 768 00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:47,000 Speaker 5: Think he'll recruit him and then kill him. Oh not Mark. 769 00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:48,960 Speaker 4: I think it's going to be him and Rob at 770 00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:50,479 Speaker 4: the end. That's what I think is going to happen. 771 00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:53,560 Speaker 5: You don't think he'll bring more up, No. 772 00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:56,319 Speaker 4: Because I think he can manipulate Moura without having her 773 00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:57,440 Speaker 4: in the tour in the turret. 774 00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:02,320 Speaker 2: I want more to to the end. She's so iconic 775 00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:05,640 Speaker 2: and her outfits are the best, like like be dressing 776 00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:06,480 Speaker 2: when she's gone. 777 00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:09,360 Speaker 4: You know, I got to meet her. Sarah hosted this 778 00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:11,920 Speaker 4: season a couple of seasons of Love Island. So I 779 00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:14,880 Speaker 4: was in Fiji, and so she would come over and 780 00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:17,920 Speaker 4: have drinks with us because she was doing like like 781 00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:23,360 Speaker 4: an after show or the Yeah, and she's awesome and 782 00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:30,520 Speaker 4: like she's she's coming across as like uh, like ill informed, 783 00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:34,160 Speaker 4: And that's not what I remember from I remember thinking 784 00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:36,880 Speaker 4: that she was like really really smart, and so it 785 00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:40,799 Speaker 4: makes me think that Maura is going to have like 786 00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:44,000 Speaker 4: a different story arc of like she's going to figure 787 00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:46,759 Speaker 4: something out and like be a big part of the end, 788 00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:48,759 Speaker 4: I hope. 789 00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:52,239 Speaker 2: So I've also watched her Love Island season and she's like. 790 00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:54,640 Speaker 5: A savage the way she attacks people. 791 00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:57,640 Speaker 2: Like I just like, we haven't gotten the full extent 792 00:40:57,719 --> 00:40:59,520 Speaker 2: of Maura, So I hope to see more. 793 00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:00,240 Speaker 3: From her as well. 794 00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:05,680 Speaker 1: Yeah agreed, Okay, And yeah, I'm like, we have to 795 00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:08,440 Speaker 1: any other thoughts. No, we have to ask about the 796 00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:11,640 Speaker 1: one and only thing that's coming up, Rachel. Oh my gosh, yes, 797 00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:13,360 Speaker 1: are you gonna watch Taylor season? 798 00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:18,760 Speaker 4: Absolutely? I I guess I can. I'll give this tease. 799 00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:23,000 Speaker 4: You know, they've finished, they've since wrapped the show, But 800 00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:27,239 Speaker 4: when they were filming, I was in contact with Jesse 801 00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:30,080 Speaker 4: a lot because our teams are like playing each other 802 00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:32,480 Speaker 4: in football and he was like calling games from like 803 00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:34,440 Speaker 4: the college I went to, and so I was just 804 00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:37,080 Speaker 4: in contact with him a lot, and I asked him. 805 00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:40,239 Speaker 4: I was like, how's it going, Like what's going on? 806 00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:43,720 Speaker 4: He was like, dude, It's going to be so good. 807 00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:46,600 Speaker 4: And he was like, and the guys we've got are 808 00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:49,000 Speaker 4: going to be so good for Paradise, and. 809 00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:52,399 Speaker 1: I was like, yes, oh, I'm so ready. 810 00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:56,239 Speaker 2: Jesse too, I feel I feel like he has been like, yeah, 811 00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:58,840 Speaker 2: it was okay, I've heard that we. 812 00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:02,880 Speaker 1: Got a good love story. That's it. Wow. 813 00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:06,360 Speaker 2: What are your thoughts on Taylor Wells just before we wrap? 814 00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:13,279 Speaker 4: I think it's a good idea obviously, you know, it 815 00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:16,959 Speaker 4: makes sense in the Hulu world with you know, their 816 00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:23,120 Speaker 4: show and ABC and Disney and all that stuff. I 817 00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:26,719 Speaker 4: think that you guys know, right, like it takes a 818 00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:29,600 Speaker 4: special type of person to be the lead, and when 819 00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:33,239 Speaker 4: you watch the show, you know, like let's say, you know, 820 00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:36,040 Speaker 4: like for the I always said that, like going on 821 00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:39,120 Speaker 4: the Bachelorette was just like one long audition to see 822 00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:42,200 Speaker 4: who could be the Bachelor, because they want to see, 823 00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:45,520 Speaker 4: like who can actually talk to these people, can be 824 00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:48,160 Speaker 4: good on camera, can be good in all this stuff 825 00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:51,480 Speaker 4: that you need to do and listen. She's obviously very 826 00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:54,319 Speaker 4: good at that because she is the star of her 827 00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:58,160 Speaker 4: own show. So in that respect, she's going to be 828 00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:02,960 Speaker 4: a phenomenal lead. Obviously, she comes with a little bit 829 00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:05,319 Speaker 4: of baggage too, right, So like that's something that she's 830 00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:08,719 Speaker 4: gonna have to talk about and explain, which I think 831 00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:13,120 Speaker 4: will make for enticing television. But I've always said this, 832 00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:17,880 Speaker 4: you know when it's no offense to batch the rets. 833 00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:20,960 Speaker 4: But like the show you you guys are the lead, 834 00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:27,200 Speaker 4: but the stars are is the cast, and you're just 835 00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:32,719 Speaker 4: facilitating an opportunity for the cast to make good television. 836 00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:35,480 Speaker 4: And I think that she will do a very good 837 00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:39,840 Speaker 4: job of helping these guys make amazing television, which is 838 00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:41,120 Speaker 4: what I'm very excited about. 839 00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:42,360 Speaker 1: I agree. 840 00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:47,719 Speaker 5: Thank you, well Wells. Thank you so much for being 841 00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:48,839 Speaker 5: unhappy hour with us. 842 00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:50,040 Speaker 3: This has been so fun. 843 00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:54,120 Speaker 4: Thanks for having me, guys. I wish we were in person, 844 00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:59,799 Speaker 4: and I know fat glass of champagne. 845 00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:01,960 Speaker 1: Say the next time I stay so I need a 846 00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:03,520 Speaker 1: drink ready to go? 847 00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:09,000 Speaker 2: Okay, anything else you want to plug at the n Wells. 848 00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:13,000 Speaker 2: Listen to his podcast, watch his golf show, do all 849 00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:13,680 Speaker 2: the things? 850 00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:15,080 Speaker 5: Follow him on social media. 851 00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:20,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm gonna use this opportunity to tell your fans 852 00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:22,400 Speaker 4: out there. If you're in New York, you should go 853 00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:26,000 Speaker 4: see my wife's new show on Broadway called justin Time. 854 00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:29,240 Speaker 4: She plays Connie Francis. It's the life story of Bobby 855 00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:31,640 Speaker 4: Darren and it's portrayed by Jonathan Groff, who is like 856 00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:35,840 Speaker 4: the King in Hamilton or he's in Frozen or Mine Hunter, 857 00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:41,160 Speaker 4: and he's absolutely lovely. He is, I mean, he's one 858 00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:42,960 Speaker 4: of the I think he's like one of the best 859 00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:47,840 Speaker 4: things about Broadway right now. And he makes out with 860 00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:49,920 Speaker 4: my wife eight times a week, which I'm totally fine with. 861 00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:53,720 Speaker 4: But the show is really really good, and I would 862 00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:57,400 Speaker 4: if you want to go see a very fun show, 863 00:44:57,719 --> 00:45:02,280 Speaker 4: go see justin Time on Broadway. And Sarah's run is limited, 864 00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:06,440 Speaker 4: so I would do it in the next month or 865 00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:10,719 Speaker 4: so before she and Jonathan might no longer be doing it. 866 00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:13,360 Speaker 1: I love that, adding that to my list. 867 00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:15,280 Speaker 5: Yes, everyone, go see Just in Time. 868 00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:19,239 Speaker 2: Support Sarah amazing. Well, thank you for being here, and 869 00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:20,720 Speaker 2: thank you everyone for listening. 870 00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:22,280 Speaker 4: Thank you guys. 871 00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:26,640 Speaker 3: Bye.