WEBVTT - Losing Everything... Twice: The Auto Firm

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<v Speaker 1>He stared at me straight in my face and said,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't need you anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow. So he backed out on his promise.

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<v Speaker 1>Not only backed out, he screwed me over, told me

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<v Speaker 1>that there's nothing after two years, and it was just

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<v Speaker 1>like probably one of the most difficult things I've ever

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<v Speaker 1>faced in my life. I built this and I got

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<v Speaker 1>to walk out. It's his business, it's not mine.

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<v Speaker 2>That's Alex Vega, founder of the auto firm. At that moment,

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<v Speaker 2>he was up against a brick wall, pushed out of

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<v Speaker 2>a company he helped build, with no other options, he

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<v Speaker 2>would have no choice but to start over, not just once,

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<v Speaker 2>but twice.

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<v Speaker 1>It was like starting again from nothing.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome to the Unshakables from Chase for Business and Ruby

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<v Speaker 2>Studio from My Heart Media. I'm Ben Walter, CEO of

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<v Speaker 2>Chase for Business.

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<v Speaker 3>And I'm Tanya Nebo, a lawyer and consultant for business owners.

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<v Speaker 2>On the Unshakables, we're sharing the daring stories of small

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<v Speaker 2>business owners facing their crisis points and telling the stories

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<v Speaker 2>of how they got through it. Hey, Tanya, we're back

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<v Speaker 2>with another story and this one, this one might make

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<v Speaker 2>you just a little bit uncomfortable.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I am already nervous. Just based on what we've

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<v Speaker 3>heard so far, Ben, it is so hard to start

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<v Speaker 3>a business, and this man built one for someone else.

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<v Speaker 3>Now he's turned back out on his own.

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<v Speaker 2>It's even more complicated.

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<v Speaker 3>Just wait, h no, keep me hanging. Let's hear it.

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<v Speaker 2>On today's episode The Auto Firm from Miami, Florida.

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<v Speaker 1>I tell everybody, listen, I've never worked a day in

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<v Speaker 1>my life. I go there and I play all day.

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<v Speaker 2>Alex Vega has been in love with cars his entire life.

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<v Speaker 1>As a kid going up, I remember the toys that

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<v Speaker 1>I cared about, the moles for the little hot wheel cars.

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<v Speaker 1>We would get markers and change them up, cut of

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<v Speaker 1>the wheels, do stripes. I would watch shows like The

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<v Speaker 1>Dukes of Hazard, the night Rider Starskeen Hodge.

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<v Speaker 2>I was the huge Dukes of Hazzard fan every Friday night.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, and I like night Rider too.

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<v Speaker 1>Never hassle the Hoff, Never hassle the Hoff. Anything that

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<v Speaker 1>had cars in it I loved, and I always said

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted one day build a car that everybody in

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<v Speaker 1>the world would know. Hey, you know what Alex Viga

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<v Speaker 1>did that car?

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<v Speaker 2>Now. I watched all those shows, but Alex he didn't

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<v Speaker 2>just watch cars on TV. He was around them in

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<v Speaker 2>real life all the time. His father was a salesman

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<v Speaker 2>at Firestone. Alex would go to work with his dad

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<v Speaker 2>and just watch cars go in and out of the shop.

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<v Speaker 3>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>I was sitting down by the sidewalk and watch the

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<v Speaker 1>cars come in and out, in and out, and people

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<v Speaker 1>will either change tires or do old changes, and I

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<v Speaker 1>would be like, man, why don't they change the wheels,

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<v Speaker 1>Why don't they paint them? Do them different.

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<v Speaker 2>Eventually he had the chance to fix up his own car.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember my front door neighbor had a Buick Regal

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen seventy nine. It had a grass growing all over it.

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<v Speaker 1>I told them one day, I said, would you sell

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<v Speaker 1>me the car? All I have is five hundred bucks?

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<v Speaker 1>And he sold me the car. But now I want

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<v Speaker 1>to to make it look nice because everybody else in

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<v Speaker 1>my high school had these nice cars. And I'm here

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<v Speaker 1>pulling in in nineteen seventy nine. The antenna was a hangar.

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<v Speaker 1>And I just started, little by little going to autoparts

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<v Speaker 1>stores and buying hug caps, buying center console, and then

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<v Speaker 1>people would see my car in school and say, man,

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<v Speaker 1>I like your car. What did you do to it?

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<v Speaker 1>And I just started selling cars.

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<v Speaker 2>He did that for a while, and when it was

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<v Speaker 2>time to go to college, he decided, you know, it

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't really for him.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't want to go to college. I went for

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<v Speaker 1>literally two days, and I did it just to please

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<v Speaker 1>my mom. And I remember calling my dad and say, Dad,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to do what you do. I want to

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<v Speaker 1>work with cars. I have a passion for it. Why

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<v Speaker 1>not make it a business?

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<v Speaker 2>So he dropped out of school and his dad connected

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<v Speaker 2>him with the manager of the Firestone that he worked at,

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<v Speaker 2>but the manager thought Alex was too young he wouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>hire him. So instead, Alex got a job selling coupon

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<v Speaker 2>books for oil changes.

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<v Speaker 1>You would sell these flyers for twenty bucks and you'd

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<v Speaker 1>get five free old changes, and it was to drive

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<v Speaker 1>customers into Firestone. So I said, that's the perfect opportunity.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll cell abut to these flyers. They see my potential,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'll get a job at Firestone. I was probably

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<v Speaker 1>selling over one hundred flyers a week.

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<v Speaker 2>The district manager at his dad's shop asked to see him.

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<v Speaker 1>This is that typical Cuban guy with the macho attitude.

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<v Speaker 1>He was very intimidating. And I remember I walk in

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<v Speaker 1>and he throws like it was a stack of those

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<v Speaker 1>coupons into the table and he says, are you doing

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<v Speaker 1>this for some reason? And I said, what are you

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<v Speaker 1>talking about? He says, are you giving him away? Are

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<v Speaker 1>you selling them? I said, I'm selling them. He says, well,

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<v Speaker 1>stop selling them.

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<v Speaker 2>Alex was confused. He was doing so well selling the

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<v Speaker 2>coupon books. Why on earth would anyone want him to stop?

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<v Speaker 2>So Alex tried to reason.

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<v Speaker 1>With him, the coupon is not costing you anything. It's

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<v Speaker 1>costing the consumer something. They're coming into your store. Now

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<v Speaker 1>it's up to your managers to take advantage of it

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<v Speaker 1>and bring them in and sell them. That's the purpose

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<v Speaker 1>of it.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, this was a smart manager. He thought Alex had

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<v Speaker 2>a point, so he made him an offer.

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<v Speaker 1>He looked at me like, I can't believe this guy's

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<v Speaker 1>telling me this, and says, tomorrow, I have a manager's meeting.

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<v Speaker 1>All my managers are gonna be there. You're gonna walk

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<v Speaker 1>in at eight thirty, and whatever you just talk to

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<v Speaker 1>me about, I want you to tell them that if

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<v Speaker 1>you walk out of there alive, you got a job. Tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember walking into this meeting, and I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if you've ever seen bulldogs when they're mad that their

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<v Speaker 1>saliva is coming down. That's how everybody looked at me.

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<v Speaker 2>Alex gave the managers the same spiel he did before.

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<v Speaker 2>Most of the managers were pretty mad, but one was impressed.

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<v Speaker 1>He looked at me and said, I want this kid

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<v Speaker 1>to work for me.

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<v Speaker 2>For the next nine years. Alex was a successful salesman

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<v Speaker 2>at Firestone until one day one of his customers offered

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<v Speaker 2>him the chance of a lifetime.

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<v Speaker 1>Somebody comes in and tells me, I know what you

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<v Speaker 1>want as a custom shop to build custom cars. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going to give you that opportunity, he says. I'll open

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<v Speaker 1>the nicest custom shop. I'll put all the equipment you need.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll pay you a good salary. If you get me

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<v Speaker 1>to a million dollars in sales a month and two years,

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<v Speaker 1>I will give you fifty percent of the company.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, it sounds like a pretty good deal.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I said, no brainer.

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<v Speaker 2>It was everything Alex wanted and a real chance to

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<v Speaker 2>prove himself. He told the man he would do it,

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<v Speaker 2>he'd build his company, and when they shook on it,

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<v Speaker 2>he was instantly on the hook for a million dollars

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<v Speaker 2>a month in sales. So he got to it, working

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<v Speaker 2>harder than he'd ever worked in his life to keep

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<v Speaker 2>his promise, and at the same time, he and his

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<v Speaker 2>wife started building their future together. They moved into their

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<v Speaker 2>dream home, confident that it was all going to pay off,

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<v Speaker 2>and two years later, Alex went to talk to the boss,

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<v Speaker 2>ready to take on his half as promised.

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<v Speaker 1>Two years came down the line, I overdid my promise.

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<v Speaker 1>He stared at me, straight in my face and said,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't need you anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow. So he backed out on his promise.

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<v Speaker 1>Backed out, not only backed out, literally looked at me

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<v Speaker 1>and said I don't need you no more. And it

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<v Speaker 1>was just like probably one of the it was one

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<v Speaker 1>of the most difficult things I've ever faced in my life.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought everything ended like right there, all this I

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<v Speaker 1>built this, and I just I got to walk out.

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<v Speaker 1>It's his business, it's not mine.

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<v Speaker 2>Alex returned home completely devastated.

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<v Speaker 1>I was so mad that I had never felt that

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<v Speaker 1>anger inside of me. And I get to the house.

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<v Speaker 1>My wife opens the door, looks in my face and

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<v Speaker 1>says what happened? And I said, he screwed me? Over.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm out, Like he just fired me and told me

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<v Speaker 1>that there's nothing after two years, I got to start

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<v Speaker 1>all over again. She looked at me straight in the

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<v Speaker 1>I said, you're going to sell the house and you're

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<v Speaker 1>going to build your own business. People love you, not him.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not the name of the business, it's you.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, that's amazing. So now you're starting over. But you've

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<v Speaker 2>learned a pretty hard lesson. It sounds like, so how

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<v Speaker 2>did you do things differently?

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<v Speaker 1>Number one? I knew it was going to be my business,

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<v Speaker 1>Like that's it, Like, this is all me now. My

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<v Speaker 1>wife gave up the most beautiful house we had just

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<v Speaker 1>built to open this business. And it's your money now.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not somebody else's money. Now. It's when you go

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<v Speaker 1>and buy that tire machine that costs twenty thousand dollars,

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<v Speaker 1>it's your twenty thousand dollars. So now you really gotta

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<v Speaker 1>hustle three times the amount.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you find new customers? Did you serve the same customers? Like?

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<v Speaker 2>What did you do? You had to start all over?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, a lot of the customers stood by me.

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<v Speaker 2>Now on his own, the business continued to grow. Working

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<v Speaker 2>for himself under his own name, he built a terrific reputation.

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<v Speaker 1>I would look at any car, I would talk to

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<v Speaker 1>somebody for five minutes and boom, automatically, I knew what

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<v Speaker 1>they wanted. They couldn't see it, but I saw it.

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<v Speaker 1>And making cars in a way where when I thought

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<v Speaker 1>as a kid, I want people to see a car

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<v Speaker 1>and say, Alex Viga did that car?

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<v Speaker 2>What does a trademark Alex Viga car look like?

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<v Speaker 1>Nice than any other car out there? I promise you

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<v Speaker 1>have never spend one dollar in advertising. Wow, everything has

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<v Speaker 1>come through word of mouth and delivering exactly what you're

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<v Speaker 1>promising people you're going to deliver.

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<v Speaker 2>Alex's business was catching steam, and soon he was working

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<v Speaker 2>with athletes like MLB player Alfonso Soriano and celebrities like Akon,

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<v Speaker 2>Lil Wayne and Usain Bolt. He got crazy requests like

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<v Speaker 2>make me a Lamborghini that can breathe fire. That's a

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<v Speaker 2>real car he made by the way his work spread

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<v Speaker 2>through word of mouth, but he was solely focused on

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<v Speaker 2>car builds. If someone needed more basic collision repair or

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<v Speaker 2>maintenance services, they'd have to go somewhere else. Then one

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<v Speaker 2>day Alex was talking to a guy who owned a

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<v Speaker 2>collision repair shop, and as it happened, there was open

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<v Speaker 2>garage space next.

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<v Speaker 1>Door, and this guy convinces me to move my business

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<v Speaker 1>next to his business a building that he had next

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<v Speaker 1>to him, to lease it from him so I can

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<v Speaker 1>have a body shop basically next to me and a

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<v Speaker 1>custom shop.

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<v Speaker 2>It felt like a perfect way to expand further, so

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<v Speaker 2>Alex moved in. But he quickly realized he'd made a

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<v Speaker 2>big mistake.

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<v Speaker 1>I find this out three months after I did this

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<v Speaker 1>big move, that this guy's behind my back trying to

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<v Speaker 1>take all my clients. He had trademarked the name of

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<v Speaker 1>the company I was using back then and basically destroyed

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<v Speaker 1>me mentally. Confront the guy kicks me out of the

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<v Speaker 1>building with my equipment in there. It was like starting

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<v Speaker 1>again from nothing.

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<v Speaker 2>Hard as it is to believe. For the second time,

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<v Speaker 2>Alex had failed to get anything in writing, and he

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<v Speaker 2>had no protections in place. Why do you think you

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<v Speaker 2>took someone on their word after what happened the first time?

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<v Speaker 1>The way I was raised by my father was a

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<v Speaker 1>man's handshake and his word and looking him in the

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<v Speaker 1>eye was better than any contract.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so let's pause here for a second, and Tanya,

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<v Speaker 2>I need to bring you in here. I have to

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<v Speaker 2>confess I couldn't help but think of you as I

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<v Speaker 2>was interviewing him, and I'm listening to this story because

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<v Speaker 2>the lawyer and you must just be completely hor on

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<v Speaker 2>so many levels.

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<v Speaker 3>You are so right getting burned not just once, not

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<v Speaker 3>just twice, but then starting over a third time because

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<v Speaker 3>he really wasn't into contracts. You know, that's tough on me,

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<v Speaker 3>even personal. It does something to me.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, you're just thinking he should have hired me.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, yeah, he could have hired us, but someone I

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<v Speaker 3>see a lot of small business owners do this.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you see a lot of small business owners take

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<v Speaker 2>it that much on faith?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>Unfortunately a lot of entrepreneurs do this. They think that

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<v Speaker 3>since the conversations are going well and they feel good

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<v Speaker 3>about the person, that it's okay to just go ahead

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<v Speaker 3>and move forward with the deal. And that's such a mistake.

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<v Speaker 3>Trust me when I say it is best to do

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<v Speaker 3>the contract now when things are good between the two

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<v Speaker 3>of you. Imagine what's going to be like when there's

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<v Speaker 3>actually money involved.

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<v Speaker 2>If I use the analogy of a prenup where people say,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, it'll take the romance out, and obviously this

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<v Speaker 2>is business romance, not personal. But how do you make

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<v Speaker 2>sure the process of going through the contract and everything

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<v Speaker 2>that you need to do doesn't sour the really relationship.

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<v Speaker 3>It helps to bring in the third person. It allows

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<v Speaker 3>that third person to be the one who's making it uncomfortable.

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<v Speaker 3>The two or three are all hover many people who

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<v Speaker 3>are getting into the deal. They can still have their

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<v Speaker 3>good relationship while the other person, the attorney, probably is

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<v Speaker 3>the one asking the hard questions, forcing them to have

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<v Speaker 3>conversations that they otherwise would not want to have. So really,

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<v Speaker 3>all an entrepreneur needs to do is just to know

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<v Speaker 3>that they simply need to bring someone else in.

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<v Speaker 1>That's it.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, look it's good advice, Tanya, and we should all

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<v Speaker 2>hire a third party to do that. But what if

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<v Speaker 2>you can't afford it? I mean, some small business owners

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<v Speaker 2>just starting out they don't have the money to do it.

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<v Speaker 3>Then they think they don't have the money to do

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<v Speaker 3>it because they don't realize what a priority it is.

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<v Speaker 3>If you really think you're going to succeed in business,

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<v Speaker 3>you will ultimately have a lot at stake. And also,

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<v Speaker 3>even if you can just get advice, you know, if

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<v Speaker 3>someone were to say I can't afford to get any help.

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<v Speaker 3>I would say, how about you at least have a consultation,

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<v Speaker 3>at least get points, even bullet points that could ultimately

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<v Speaker 3>end up on a piece of paper. Both of you

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<v Speaker 3>all sign just to get the insight from someone who

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<v Speaker 3>is a professional, who is advocating for them is better

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<v Speaker 3>than nothing.

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<v Speaker 2>Listen. I think that's really great advice, and we'll get

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<v Speaker 2>into it later, but for right now, let's get back

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<v Speaker 2>to the story.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, Well, let's see where this goes.

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<v Speaker 2>Alex realized he had no choice but to take legal action.

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<v Speaker 2>Over the next year, Alex's company would be tied up

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<v Speaker 2>in a trademark lawsuit against his former business partner, and

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<v Speaker 2>that meant that all his business's assets, basically everything he

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<v Speaker 2>needed to keep working, were frozen.

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<v Speaker 1>We had to go through a lawsuit for it was

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<v Speaker 1>a whole year. It was a disaster. I couldn't get

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<v Speaker 1>my equipment up, I couldn't get my inventory. So you

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<v Speaker 1>have to literally say, what do I do right now?

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<v Speaker 2>Alex found a new space where he could build back,

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<v Speaker 2>bigger and better. But before he could rebuild for the

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<v Speaker 2>third time, believe it or not, he had to raise

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<v Speaker 2>the cash to rent the garage, and he had to

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<v Speaker 2>do it fast.

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<v Speaker 1>I literally started calling all my clients and saying, look,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going through this situation right now. If you want

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<v Speaker 1>to change your wheels, if you want to do anything

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<v Speaker 1>to your cars, I'll do whatever you want on your cars,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'll do it literally at the lowest profit possible.

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<v Speaker 1>But I need to move forward and reverse. The customer said, no,

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<v Speaker 1>you're going to charge me whatever. I remember baseball players

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<v Speaker 1>coming to me that were close to me, and I

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<v Speaker 1>remember this guy like saber mirrors. He was playing for

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<v Speaker 1>the White Sox. He literally came to my store with

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<v Speaker 1>a brand new Porsche she had bought and gave me

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<v Speaker 1>the keys. He said, I don't know what kits they have.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't care what it costs me. I want you

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<v Speaker 1>to build me the baddest Porsche you ever built. It

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<v Speaker 1>was literally a sixty thousand dollars ticket.

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<v Speaker 2>With the support of his clients, Alex was able to

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<v Speaker 2>raise eighteen thousand dollars in just four days, and he

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<v Speaker 2>signed the lease for the new space. He even had

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<v Speaker 2>enough leftover to buy some new machines for the final time.

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<v Speaker 2>Alex reopened the business with a new name, The Auto

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<v Speaker 2>Firm He also created his own line of rims and tires,

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<v Speaker 2>named using a combination of his initials AV and the

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<v Speaker 2>Italian word for an unstoppable force. Together. He called it

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<v Speaker 2>a Vorza.

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<v Speaker 1>And I loved the word. I said, man, it's catchy.

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<v Speaker 1>You look it up. It doesn't exist, there's no description

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<v Speaker 1>for it. And I remember going to one of the

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<v Speaker 1>biggest manufacturers, says, I want to make my own brand.

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<v Speaker 1>I make all these designs. And I started drawing out

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<v Speaker 1>designs and they love the designs and they say, we'll

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<v Speaker 1>make them for you. Let's do it. And that's how

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<v Speaker 1>I created my own wheel brand. And I was actually

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<v Speaker 1>putting this on celebrity cars, athlete.

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<v Speaker 2>Cars, hopefully with a contract this time.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, Oh yeah, everything was contracts. You know. Now, I

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<v Speaker 1>learned the American way. I'll still give you trust, i'll

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<v Speaker 1>give you respect, but if we're going to do something

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<v Speaker 1>business wise, you have to do a contract.

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<v Speaker 2>And yeah, there were contracts. But he made one critical

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<v Speaker 2>new addition to his team that made a big difference.

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<v Speaker 1>My wife says, whatever you're doing, we're doing it together.

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<v Speaker 1>And my wife came into the business and she became

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<v Speaker 1>the accountant whatever she wanted to be the resident, but

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<v Speaker 1>her being there, it will never happen again. Like now,

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<v Speaker 1>sky is the limit. We're going forward and it's thanks

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<v Speaker 1>to those moments that you live, that you go through

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<v Speaker 1>and not giving up ever giving up is continuing to push, push, push,

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<v Speaker 1>and being the best you can be today.

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<v Speaker 2>The auto firm and his tire brand of Orza, generate

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<v Speaker 2>twelve million dollars in sales every year, and collectively they

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<v Speaker 2>employ over forty staff members. The auto firm customizes over

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<v Speaker 2>a thousand cars a year, almost half of which Alex

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<v Speaker 2>says are for celebrity clients. But more importantly, he and

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<v Speaker 2>his wife Amy have retained full ownership of the company

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<v Speaker 2>and they plan to pass it on to their two sons.

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<v Speaker 1>One day, I built something, but now I get to

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<v Speaker 1>enjoy my family with it. I'm gonna keep doing what

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<v Speaker 1>I do. I'm not gonna stop. The drive is always

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<v Speaker 1>gonna live there. I wake up in the morning and

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<v Speaker 1>that's what I want to do.

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<v Speaker 3>That was juicy story. There's a lot to unpact there

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<v Speaker 3>and I'm really excited to get to it. But first,

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<v Speaker 3>and I don't think you know this about me, but

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<v Speaker 3>I'm kind of a car girl. You're not impressed by

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<v Speaker 3>fire coming out of a Lamborghini even.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, look, I'm in awe of what he builds, and

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<v Speaker 2>then I'll go back to driving my Honda a Cord.

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<v Speaker 3>At least you can acknowledge, as your non car self

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<v Speaker 3>that it is quite amazing what he did. And when

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<v Speaker 3>I think about the branding model that he put together,

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<v Speaker 3>where he's tying his own brand to other world class brands,

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<v Speaker 3>how brilliant Rolls, Royce, lambri all this.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Alex clearly understands marketing and brands and how it works. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and he understands that the best brands aren't built through

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<v Speaker 2>advertising dollars. They're built through word of mouth and reputation.

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<v Speaker 2>One of the things I tell my employees all the

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<v Speaker 2>time is that you don't create a brand. A brand

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<v Speaker 2>is a reflection of what you do anyway, and then

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<v Speaker 2>you get to take your megaphone and yell about that

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<v Speaker 2>brand that you have that your customers know you have

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<v Speaker 2>because you deliver it. And I think he figured out

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<v Speaker 2>a way to tie his brand that people already knew

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<v Speaker 2>about and attach it to the right megaphones with the

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<v Speaker 2>right associations in a way that really benefited his business. Oh, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>For him to have gotten this far and never paid

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<v Speaker 3>for advertising, that's huge. I mean, he's got all kinds

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<v Speaker 3>of credible people speaking to how wonderful his products and

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<v Speaker 3>services are. I really think he put together something amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>Well. I think a couple of things. One is he

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<v Speaker 2>understands his brand and what it stands.

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<v Speaker 3>For sure.

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<v Speaker 2>His brand is grounded in the product that he actually delivers.

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<v Speaker 2>And my products and experiences for my customers inspire passion

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<v Speaker 2>in them, and that creates a marketing engine in and

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<v Speaker 2>of itself. And then I take all of that and

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<v Speaker 2>I package it up and I put it next to

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<v Speaker 2>other brands that people love, and I'm off to the races.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And when you hear Alex talk about what he did

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<v Speaker 2>to this car or that car, he's talking about his brand.

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<v Speaker 2>And I see too often people talk about this is

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<v Speaker 2>my manufacturing or this is my product delivery. Then I

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<v Speaker 2>go think about marketing. No, no, no, he's not thinking

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<v Speaker 2>about them separately. They are one and the same.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's so cohesive of how he's done it all.

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<v Speaker 3>He did get some help, and I want to talk

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<v Speaker 3>about that like I'm a trusted advisor, I'm a lawyer, right,

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<v Speaker 3>And I want to stress how important it is as

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<v Speaker 3>a business owner to have advisors around you that you trust,

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<v Speaker 3>who understands you, who know how you do business. And

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<v Speaker 3>we got a chance here to see with Alex that

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<v Speaker 3>your advisor doesn't actually have to be just your lawyer.

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<v Speaker 3>In this case, it was his what.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you have to have people you trust and that

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<v Speaker 2>can be your spouse, it can be your best friend,

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<v Speaker 2>it can be someone that works for you, it doesn't matter.

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<v Speaker 2>You have to have people you can rely on, and critically,

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<v Speaker 2>you have to have people who will challenge you. So

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<v Speaker 2>if all you have are people who are by your side,

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<v Speaker 2>who will tell you that every decision you ever make

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<v Speaker 2>is right and every thought you ever have is brilliant,

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<v Speaker 2>then you know there is no chance that your business

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<v Speaker 2>is going to grow and extend and take it to

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<v Speaker 2>the next level. It can't happen that way.

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<v Speaker 3>No, it can, because you can't grow the best version

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<v Speaker 3>of your business if you don't have people around you

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<v Speaker 3>who are willing to tell you the truth.

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<v Speaker 2>Seriously, I think the other thing that really comes through

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<v Speaker 2>is just how much this is not work for him.

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<v Speaker 2>This is his passion. If he couldn't get paid for anything,

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<v Speaker 2>he would still work on cars.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and I like that he really spoke to how

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<v Speaker 3>critical the passion piece is. Now, of course, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>do what you love, but better pay right. But I

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<v Speaker 3>really like how he encourage people to pursue that which

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<v Speaker 3>really matters to them, and it doesn't necessarily have to

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<v Speaker 3>be the particular thing they're selling. It could be the

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<v Speaker 3>passion that they have in how they're doing business, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>because some people don't have passion for microchips or whatever

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<v Speaker 3>it is that they're selling, but they have passion for

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<v Speaker 3>the fact that they're selling and they're solving problems for people.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think that, you know, there's different ways to

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<v Speaker 3>foster that passion.

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<v Speaker 2>But I do see sometimes and I bet you do too,

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<v Speaker 2>that sometimes they have so much passion for the end

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<v Speaker 2>product of the business but less passion for running the

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<v Speaker 2>business and the enterprise and the business side of what

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<v Speaker 2>they do. Sounds like he's got a reasonable balance, But

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<v Speaker 2>I do hear quite a lot. You know, whatever it

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<v Speaker 2>is that you do. I didn't get into business to

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<v Speaker 2>run a business. I got into business to cook food

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<v Speaker 2>or to fix up or to do whatever. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't like this whole business part of it sounds like

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<v Speaker 2>it sounds like he's learned some hard lessons in that regard,

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<v Speaker 2>but I see that all the time.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And the key is it took him time too.

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<v Speaker 3>He didn't have all that figured out, which is why

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<v Speaker 3>Deal one didn't go well. Deal too kind of you know,

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<v Speaker 3>fell apart as well. But one thing that he said

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<v Speaker 3>was that he now has people who protect him. So

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<v Speaker 3>he put together the right team. But it took him

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<v Speaker 3>time too, and it takes some mistakes. Sometimes you get right,

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<v Speaker 3>sometimes you don't, and then you tweak right.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think it's important to recognize those inflection points

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<v Speaker 2>that happen with a business. Right, there's a point at

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<v Speaker 2>which it turns from just a passion to a business.

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<v Speaker 2>Then there's a point where it turns from a business

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<v Speaker 2>to a growing business that has risk that people are

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<v Speaker 2>going to be coming after from a competitive perspective, that

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<v Speaker 2>you know, the stakes start to go up. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>there's the kind of inflection point that happened to him

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<v Speaker 2>where something terrible happens. But then there's those other inflection points.

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<v Speaker 2>You may not know their inflection points until later.

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<v Speaker 3>You look back and say, ah, that was the moment.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, Tanya, I want to share one last part

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<v Speaker 2>of my interview with Alex that I think you're going

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<v Speaker 2>to really like. That speaks to what it is to

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<v Speaker 2>be unshakable.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's hear it.

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<v Speaker 2>So, Alex, you've told us your incredible story. There's a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of small business owners listening today who certainly want

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<v Speaker 2>to build their own version of what you've done. If

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<v Speaker 2>you could leave them with one piece of advice, what

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<v Speaker 2>would that be?

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<v Speaker 1>To not be afraid? And it requires money, as it does.

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<v Speaker 1>I had to sell a house to do it. If

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<v Speaker 1>you have to sell your house, if you have to

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<v Speaker 1>sell anything that you have to be able to build

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<v Speaker 1>a dream, take the risk and do whatever you have

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<v Speaker 1>to do to do what you love.

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<v Speaker 3>Well.

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<v Speaker 2>I can only imagine what's next for Alex. He's growing

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<v Speaker 2>like a weed. He's got a plan, his whole family's involved.

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<v Speaker 2>I think we're going to be seeing more of Alex.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's going to be exciting to see what he

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<v Speaker 3>does next.

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<v Speaker 2>an entrepreneur who wanted to capture the feel of a

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<v Speaker 2>life Tino home through candles by finding a niche and

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<v Speaker 2>building a strong brand story CEO Melissa Gallardo sold Nostalgia

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<v Speaker 2>to major retailers all over the country. I'm Ben Walter

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