1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:04,320 Speaker 1: Welcome everybody to the Klay Travisen, Buck Sexton Show on 2 00:00:04,400 --> 00:00:08,600 Speaker 1: this fantastic Friday, July the eighteenth. Can't believe we're already 3 00:00:08,640 --> 00:00:11,640 Speaker 1: halfway through the summer. Hope you're having a good one. 4 00:00:11,800 --> 00:00:13,960 Speaker 1: A lot of news to get into. Give you a 5 00:00:13,960 --> 00:00:16,319 Speaker 1: bit of a roadmap here where we're going today on 6 00:00:16,400 --> 00:00:20,599 Speaker 1: the show. Senator McCormick of Pennsylvania will be with us. 7 00:00:21,079 --> 00:00:23,160 Speaker 1: Got some very interesting things to talk to him about, 8 00:00:23,239 --> 00:00:27,479 Speaker 1: including how AI is going to transform not just the 9 00:00:27,480 --> 00:00:30,160 Speaker 1: economy of the world that we live in, and they 10 00:00:30,200 --> 00:00:33,800 Speaker 1: had this AI summit in Pennsylvania. I think the best 11 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:36,599 Speaker 1: way to line this up is for those of us 12 00:00:36,600 --> 00:00:39,040 Speaker 1: who are I don't know if anyone's not really a 13 00:00:39,040 --> 00:00:41,640 Speaker 1: believer in this clay who's paying attention to it, but 14 00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:46,199 Speaker 1: it's looking more and more like the Internet circa nineteen 15 00:00:46,320 --> 00:00:49,520 Speaker 1: ninety six in terms of the way that this could 16 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:54,720 Speaker 1: really transform business and our day to day lives if 17 00:00:54,720 --> 00:00:57,560 Speaker 1: this works the way that it is anticipated that it will, 18 00:00:57,640 --> 00:00:59,640 Speaker 1: and that it already is in some ways. So I 19 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:02,720 Speaker 1: just think that's a fasting discussion. And you know, I've 20 00:01:02,720 --> 00:01:05,039 Speaker 1: got the clay. We've got waymos all over the place 21 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:05,840 Speaker 1: here now in Miami. 22 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:06,399 Speaker 2: I love them. 23 00:01:06,680 --> 00:01:10,840 Speaker 1: I love yet I haven't I'm gonna be a waymo guy, 24 00:01:11,319 --> 00:01:14,360 Speaker 1: because you know, I always feel a little guilty. This 25 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:17,640 Speaker 1: will not surprise anybody, but I do not like listening 26 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:20,160 Speaker 1: to loud music. That is especially not the music that 27 00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:21,880 Speaker 1: I in general, I don't like loud music. 28 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:24,680 Speaker 2: So you love that there's no driver and you're completely 29 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:27,240 Speaker 2: alone in your isolated cocoon of movement. 30 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:29,960 Speaker 1: Because I feel a little bit like a jerk getting 31 00:01:29,959 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 1: into somebody else's car. 32 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:34,200 Speaker 3: Being like, excuse me, sir, excuse me, can you turn 33 00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:36,319 Speaker 3: down your You know, I just I don't love that, 34 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:38,319 Speaker 3: so I try not to do it. 35 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:40,960 Speaker 1: And so I have learned a lot about reggaeton and 36 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:44,360 Speaker 1: bad Bunny down here in Miami Beach as a result, 37 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:46,360 Speaker 1: because I end up listening to it every time I 38 00:01:46,400 --> 00:01:47,279 Speaker 1: get into a car. 39 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:48,840 Speaker 3: But yes, it is. 40 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:52,640 Speaker 1: It is a change that is coming here with Waimo 41 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:55,960 Speaker 1: and the driverless vehicles, and that is just this is 42 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:59,680 Speaker 1: one of infinity things that are going to be changing. 43 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:05,080 Speaker 2: I think sometimes we don't always recognize when the future 44 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:08,080 Speaker 2: is upon us and the Internet, I would say, because 45 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:10,320 Speaker 2: for those of us who remember the dot com bubble, 46 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:13,520 Speaker 2: everything they said about the Internet ended up being true, 47 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:17,119 Speaker 2: but they set it so early and then everything imploded 48 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:20,040 Speaker 2: that a lot of people didn't realize as the Internet 49 00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:23,079 Speaker 2: kind of took over all of our lives. That I mean, 50 00:02:23,200 --> 00:02:25,320 Speaker 2: I guarantee you there were a lot of people back 51 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:27,720 Speaker 2: in the day who were saying, Oh, the Internet's overrated. 52 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:29,880 Speaker 2: There's no way the Internet's going to change anything about 53 00:02:29,919 --> 00:02:33,560 Speaker 2: my life. And then nowadays the Internet is so fundamentally embedded. 54 00:02:33,919 --> 00:02:36,200 Speaker 2: Sometimes you do a tech thing. For me, it was 55 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:38,840 Speaker 2: getting in that way more vehicle and I felt like 56 00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:39,960 Speaker 2: I was in the future. 57 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:40,280 Speaker 4: You know. 58 00:02:40,320 --> 00:02:42,840 Speaker 2: We were talking about the Jetsons the other day. When 59 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:45,080 Speaker 2: I got in there in that vehicle with my son 60 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:48,320 Speaker 2: and it drove us around like it did, I said, 61 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:51,079 Speaker 2: in the future. And I know people out there get 62 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:51,920 Speaker 2: fired up about this. 63 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:52,640 Speaker 5: Uh. 64 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:55,880 Speaker 2: I think driving a car is going to be like 65 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:58,640 Speaker 2: riding a horse. I think it's going to be something 66 00:02:58,680 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 2: that people do for fun. One that is, otherwise most 67 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:06,360 Speaker 2: people don't do it. And people that like say, you know, 68 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:09,280 Speaker 2: in eighteen ninety, everybody knew how to put a horse down, 69 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 2: everybody knew how to feed a horse, like it was 70 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:12,919 Speaker 2: the method of propulsion. 71 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:15,960 Speaker 1: There's an intermediary step and my older brother, who's a 72 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:19,560 Speaker 1: car guy, loves he still drives stick shift. He's got 73 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:21,440 Speaker 1: a stick shift car. He loves to get out there 74 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:24,480 Speaker 1: and do the shifting with his You know, I mean 75 00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:27,640 Speaker 1: I can kind of do it not well, and I 76 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:28,840 Speaker 1: probably can't really do it. 77 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:30,320 Speaker 3: I used to be able to do it, but. 78 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:32,400 Speaker 1: He loves it. Just because he loves it. It'll be like, yeah, 79 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:36,480 Speaker 1: driving my driving car yourself. Design cars for Ford for 80 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:40,720 Speaker 1: thirty years. He loves in the Detroit area. Loves driving cars. 81 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 1: Like if you told him, Hey, you're going to go 82 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:44,240 Speaker 1: on vacation, he'd be like, I want to drive twelve 83 00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:46,400 Speaker 1: hours to I'd be like, oh, that sounds like the 84 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:47,600 Speaker 1: worst vacation ever. 85 00:03:47,920 --> 00:03:50,400 Speaker 2: He loves it. So I'm not saying people, I think 86 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 2: in a generation this is going to be an example 87 00:03:53,120 --> 00:03:56,920 Speaker 2: of something that is profoundly different than life is today. 88 00:03:57,560 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 1: Yes, so we'll talk to him about AI. I just 89 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 1: I want us to be familiar with that conversation to 90 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:04,880 Speaker 1: start to get into this, because I know it might 91 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:09,400 Speaker 1: sound like a little something more you'd hear on CNBC, which, 92 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 1: by the by the way, I didn't even mean to 93 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:16,720 Speaker 1: transition into this, but I will just noteb CNBC throwing 94 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:20,599 Speaker 1: big time shade at the great state of Tennessee, and 95 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:23,600 Speaker 1: I think that Clay is going to have to defend 96 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:28,800 Speaker 1: Tennessee's honor after CNBC. This is this is madness. I 97 00:04:28,839 --> 00:04:30,719 Speaker 1: don't know how this could happen. We'll get to that later. 98 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:35,680 Speaker 1: It's a short, shorter conversation. But CNBC has said that Tennessee, 99 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:40,880 Speaker 1: based on their metrics, Okay, Tennessee, is the worst state 100 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:42,159 Speaker 1: in America to live. 101 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:46,800 Speaker 2: I was like, the worst state across the bow. It's 102 00:04:46,839 --> 00:04:48,840 Speaker 2: what may you say, Hey, it's not the best. To 103 00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:51,480 Speaker 2: call Tennessee the worst place to live in America, as 104 00:04:51,560 --> 00:04:55,440 Speaker 2: CNBC did, is virtually impossible. If you want to tell 105 00:04:55,480 --> 00:04:57,679 Speaker 2: me it's not top three or top five, I'll listen 106 00:04:57,720 --> 00:04:59,520 Speaker 2: to you. But having spent a good amount of time in. 107 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:02,200 Speaker 1: Tennessee, in large part because of this show and Clay's 108 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:06,240 Speaker 1: residency there, that is just I mean, I could name 109 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:08,359 Speaker 1: a whole bunch of states that I'd be like anyway, 110 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:09,200 Speaker 1: we can get into that. 111 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:09,960 Speaker 3: We can get into that later. 112 00:05:10,400 --> 00:05:11,039 Speaker 4: Some news. 113 00:05:11,320 --> 00:05:12,960 Speaker 3: Let's let's pile into some news right now. 114 00:05:12,960 --> 00:05:14,520 Speaker 1: It's a Friday, so we're a little loose for having 115 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:16,800 Speaker 1: some fun we'll take your calls obviously, so light us up. 116 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:19,160 Speaker 1: We love your talkbacks. Hit us up with more talkbacks 117 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:22,359 Speaker 1: and vip emails as we go. A couple of things 118 00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:26,480 Speaker 1: for the for the news cycle. One is Attorney General 119 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 1: Pam Bondi is saying she's going to unseal grand jury 120 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:33,839 Speaker 1: testimony related to Jeffrey Epstein. And this is following a 121 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:37,279 Speaker 1: directive from President Trump. So back in the news cycle, everybody, 122 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:39,600 Speaker 1: we're not choosing to talk about the Epstein case. It 123 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:42,600 Speaker 1: is now a thing that is happening that is news. Uh, 124 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:45,240 Speaker 1: And that's just something to be aware of. I don't 125 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:47,800 Speaker 1: think you'll see much in there that matters. And I 126 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:49,960 Speaker 1: think every time I've told you that so far about 127 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:52,599 Speaker 1: something not mattering, it has been accurate. 128 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:54,200 Speaker 3: But I could be wrong. We'll see. 129 00:05:54,640 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 1: And then Trump tweeted this out. I keep saying, tweeted 130 00:05:58,040 --> 00:06:00,800 Speaker 1: whatever truth this out. Based on the ridiculous amount of 131 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:04,119 Speaker 1: publicity given to Jeffrey Epstein, I've asked Attorney General Bondi 132 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 1: to produce any and all permanent grand jury testimony, subject 133 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:10,479 Speaker 1: to court approval. This scam perpetuated by Democrats. Sh and 134 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:14,120 Speaker 1: right now, okay, Clay, that comes out from Trump and 135 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:17,720 Speaker 1: within hours of each other. There's also a Wall Street 136 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:21,640 Speaker 1: Journal piece that dropped. This Wall Street Journal piece is 137 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:25,560 Speaker 1: I don't understand what they think the point of it 138 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:28,640 Speaker 1: really is. It goes into we'll just give you the 139 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:31,560 Speaker 1: summary of it, and Clay as into the details as well, 140 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:34,720 Speaker 1: so filling anything I miss, But it's that Epstein had 141 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:36,840 Speaker 1: a fiftieth birthday a long time ago, and a bunch 142 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:42,039 Speaker 1: of people wrote body notes, you know, locker room talk, 143 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:46,400 Speaker 1: nothing like you know, perverted per se or at least 144 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:48,400 Speaker 1: nothing that they're saying Trump ro was perverted, at least 145 00:06:48,440 --> 00:06:51,800 Speaker 1: not that I'm aware of, but you know, writing boobs 146 00:06:51,839 --> 00:06:56,200 Speaker 1: on things and stuff like that, and they say that 147 00:06:56,279 --> 00:07:00,440 Speaker 1: Trump was part of this, like birthday tribute was known 148 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:02,840 Speaker 1: that Trump used to hang out at hangout in Palm 149 00:07:02,920 --> 00:07:05,159 Speaker 1: Beach with Jeffrey Epstein. Jeffrey Epstein used to hang out 150 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:08,400 Speaker 1: with all the socialites, I believe in Palm Beach of 151 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:10,960 Speaker 1: his era. He was just out with all these people. 152 00:07:11,080 --> 00:07:13,280 Speaker 1: He was a rich guy who liked to party. At 153 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:16,080 Speaker 1: that time. There was a time when people didn't realize 154 00:07:16,280 --> 00:07:19,920 Speaker 1: that he was a sick pedophile. So you know, you 155 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:22,960 Speaker 1: have to separate these things into different. You know, if 156 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:26,360 Speaker 1: somebody told you that they thought that like Bill Cosby 157 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:29,720 Speaker 1: was a great American thirty years ago or twenty years 158 00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:32,040 Speaker 1: ago or whatever it is, that would feel a little 159 00:07:32,080 --> 00:07:33,880 Speaker 1: different than someone's saying I think Bill Cosby is a 160 00:07:33,880 --> 00:07:37,040 Speaker 1: great American today. Right where there's what people know about 161 00:07:37,080 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 1: somebody's past behavior and what and when they know it. 162 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:43,640 Speaker 3: Clay, what was the point of this Wall Street Journal piece? Why? 163 00:07:43,760 --> 00:07:44,560 Speaker 2: Why would they do this? 164 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:47,560 Speaker 3: And has kick Trump off in no small measure which 165 00:07:47,560 --> 00:07:48,800 Speaker 3: we can get into. But why did they do this? 166 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:53,360 Speaker 2: I think there is an attempt and a desire to 167 00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:58,480 Speaker 2: directly connect Donald Trump to Jeffrey Epstein. And I think 168 00:07:58,520 --> 00:08:01,640 Speaker 2: Trump saw this coming. It's why he has not wanted, 169 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:08,320 Speaker 2: particularly to focus on the Epstein related issues. And I 170 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:10,800 Speaker 2: read the Wall Street Journal piece last night when it 171 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:14,600 Speaker 2: came out. I texted it to you. It doesn't sound 172 00:08:14,680 --> 00:08:19,200 Speaker 2: like Trump at all. It doesn't sound like something that 173 00:08:19,240 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 2: Trump would do. Having said that, I don't know why 174 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:29,320 Speaker 2: it's particularly newsworthy. And I also don't know why it 175 00:08:29,320 --> 00:08:32,880 Speaker 2: wouldn't have come out in twenty sixteen or twenty twenty 176 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:37,199 Speaker 2: or twenty twenty four if it was deemed newsworthy. Look 177 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:41,680 Speaker 2: they accused Trump of having sex with a porn star 178 00:08:42,640 --> 00:08:45,120 Speaker 2: and paying to keep it from going public. They put 179 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:48,679 Speaker 2: him on trial for those charges. They accused him of 180 00:08:48,760 --> 00:08:53,680 Speaker 2: sexual assault in a changing room. They dropped the Access 181 00:08:53,760 --> 00:08:58,320 Speaker 2: Hollywood tape. I don't think there's anything you can say 182 00:08:58,320 --> 00:09:01,000 Speaker 2: about Trump. I'm just being honest about Trump at this 183 00:09:01,160 --> 00:09:04,640 Speaker 2: point that is going to cause anyone to change their 184 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:08,960 Speaker 2: opinion about Trump. And so I think this is a 185 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:11,520 Speaker 2: big swing in a miss I actually think and this 186 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:14,680 Speaker 2: is maybe a little bit at counterintuitive, I actually think 187 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:19,320 Speaker 2: it's somewhat beneficial to Trump because it makes him look 188 00:09:19,520 --> 00:09:23,360 Speaker 2: like the victim here, meaning it looks so over the 189 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:25,760 Speaker 2: top in the way that you are pursuing him. 190 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:29,480 Speaker 1: What like, even if this it's like the four criminal cases, 191 00:09:29,920 --> 00:09:32,160 Speaker 1: you don't have to bring four criminal cases against somebody 192 00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:34,640 Speaker 1: at once who's never been charged with a criminal case 193 00:09:34,679 --> 00:09:37,400 Speaker 1: in his life, unless you're just doing the kitchen sink routine, 194 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:38,320 Speaker 1: which is what they were doing. 195 00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:40,720 Speaker 3: Throw everything out him, even if it's nonsense. 196 00:09:40,559 --> 00:09:44,720 Speaker 2: And even if it were true. Let's assume that the 197 00:09:44,760 --> 00:09:46,440 Speaker 2: way that I like to look at these things is 198 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:48,440 Speaker 2: one of the things they teach you in law school 199 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:51,120 Speaker 2: is analyze when you file a lawsuit. One of the 200 00:09:51,120 --> 00:09:53,000 Speaker 2: things you're supposed to do as a judge is presume 201 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:56,160 Speaker 2: everything in the lawsuit is true, and you have to 202 00:09:56,160 --> 00:09:58,600 Speaker 2: do that for purposes of summary judgment. That's taking you 203 00:09:58,640 --> 00:10:02,560 Speaker 2: a little bit into the legal world. But presume everything 204 00:10:02,600 --> 00:10:05,160 Speaker 2: that the Wall Street Journal reported as one hundred percent truth. 205 00:10:05,679 --> 00:10:10,560 Speaker 2: Why does it matter? Jeffrey Epstein had a fiftieth birthday party, 206 00:10:10,880 --> 00:10:13,560 Speaker 2: and people that he knew at that time before he 207 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:16,839 Speaker 2: had ever been charged with any crime, they decided they 208 00:10:16,840 --> 00:10:19,680 Speaker 2: wanted to give him a gift, and that gift was 209 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:26,000 Speaker 2: basically a yearbook of joking body commentary about him at 210 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:28,880 Speaker 2: the age of fifty. I mean, for anybody out there 211 00:10:28,920 --> 00:10:33,600 Speaker 2: listening open phone Lines here, explain to me why this 212 00:10:33,640 --> 00:10:39,920 Speaker 2: would be relevant in any way other than as a way. 213 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:44,199 Speaker 2: Because Jeffrey Epstein, we now know, is a felon, and 214 00:10:44,280 --> 00:10:47,520 Speaker 2: a awful felon at that right. He's not somebody who 215 00:10:47,640 --> 00:10:50,680 Speaker 2: stole some toothpaste or something and got arrested for it. 216 00:10:50,760 --> 00:10:55,520 Speaker 2: He's a sexual predator. So being associated with someone who 217 00:10:55,559 --> 00:10:59,679 Speaker 2: is negative, you're just trying to stain that person by saying, oh, 218 00:10:59,679 --> 00:11:03,199 Speaker 2: he knew him, oh he and so Open Phone Lines 219 00:11:03,400 --> 00:11:05,120 Speaker 2: eight hundred and two A two two eight A two. 220 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:10,160 Speaker 2: Explain to me why this would be supremely relevant as 221 00:11:10,240 --> 00:11:12,839 Speaker 2: a story even if it were one hundred percent truth. 222 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:18,000 Speaker 2: I don't buy that it is. Okay. Secondly, what we're. 223 00:11:17,400 --> 00:11:18,640 Speaker 3: Supposed to take from it, I don't want to. I 224 00:11:18,640 --> 00:11:20,160 Speaker 3: don't know that's what that's one. 225 00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:22,240 Speaker 2: Hundred percent When I'm arguing, like, even if it were 226 00:11:22,280 --> 00:11:25,640 Speaker 2: one hundred percent true, how does it in some way 227 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:28,240 Speaker 2: implicate this story in a big way. 228 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:29,800 Speaker 3: It doesn't further the story at all. 229 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:33,120 Speaker 1: It feels like a throwaway detail in this because we 230 00:11:33,200 --> 00:11:37,160 Speaker 1: already knew and nobody denied that there was and we 231 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:40,480 Speaker 1: had dershowitz On who were talking about was Epstein's lawyer 232 00:11:40,559 --> 00:11:43,839 Speaker 1: and talked about this. And it's also well known that 233 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:48,200 Speaker 1: Epstein got creepy with a member's daughter who was I 234 00:11:48,280 --> 00:11:52,880 Speaker 1: believe the story is the daughter was underage and Trump 235 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:55,400 Speaker 1: was like, dude, you're being a scumbag. You're out of here. 236 00:11:55,720 --> 00:11:57,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, so what so what? 237 00:11:57,240 --> 00:12:00,360 Speaker 3: What what are we learning about this? Like that Trump? 238 00:12:00,960 --> 00:12:02,600 Speaker 1: And the other part of this too is you read 239 00:12:02,640 --> 00:12:05,880 Speaker 1: this thing that they that they say was a Trump note, 240 00:12:06,160 --> 00:12:08,000 Speaker 1: And I'm sorry, I do not believe. For one and 241 00:12:08,040 --> 00:12:09,880 Speaker 1: this isn't Oh. I love Trump and he's the greatest 242 00:12:09,880 --> 00:12:12,160 Speaker 1: American president of my lifetime. Put that in a separate bin. 243 00:12:12,240 --> 00:12:14,840 Speaker 1: I'm really trying to be objective. If you ask me, 244 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:17,520 Speaker 1: you know, buck, if you get this right, you get 245 00:12:17,520 --> 00:12:20,000 Speaker 1: a million dollars. Did Donald Trump write this? I'd be like, no, 246 00:12:20,080 --> 00:12:23,680 Speaker 1: I do not believe Donald Trump wrote some weird like 247 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:26,679 Speaker 1: poetry to Jeffrey Epstein where he referred to him as 248 00:12:26,679 --> 00:12:27,480 Speaker 1: an enigma. 249 00:12:28,040 --> 00:12:28,840 Speaker 3: I do not believe. 250 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:32,000 Speaker 2: I don't know that Donald Trump frankly knows the word 251 00:12:32,120 --> 00:12:35,000 Speaker 2: enigma or could use it. Let me read that to you. 252 00:12:35,080 --> 00:12:37,680 Speaker 2: But right before we go to break here, here is 253 00:12:37,720 --> 00:12:40,720 Speaker 2: what Trump is alleged to have written. Drawn a picture 254 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:44,880 Speaker 2: of a woman. Also, don't really see naked woman, And 255 00:12:44,920 --> 00:12:50,079 Speaker 2: then he said, voiceover, there must This is what they 256 00:12:50,120 --> 00:12:55,040 Speaker 2: alleged Trump wrote in the Epstein fiftieth birthday book, voiceover, 257 00:12:55,640 --> 00:13:00,320 Speaker 2: there must be more to life than having everything. Donald, Yes, 258 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:03,720 Speaker 2: there is, But I won't tell you what it is, Jeffrey, 259 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:07,760 Speaker 2: nor will I since I also know what it is. Donald. 260 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:12,360 Speaker 2: We have certain things in common, Jeffrey, Jeffrey, Yes, we do. 261 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:16,240 Speaker 2: Come to think of it, Donald, Enigma's never age. Have 262 00:13:16,360 --> 00:13:19,480 Speaker 2: you noticed that, Jeffrey. As a matter of fact, it 263 00:13:19,559 --> 00:13:22,520 Speaker 2: was clear to me the last time I saw you Trump, 264 00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:27,240 Speaker 2: a pal is a wonderful thing. Happy birthday, and may 265 00:13:27,360 --> 00:13:32,240 Speaker 2: every day be another wonderful secret. Just that is what 266 00:13:32,280 --> 00:13:35,360 Speaker 2: they allege Trump wrote. They think that Trump made up 267 00:13:35,840 --> 00:13:40,080 Speaker 2: an imaginary conversation and sounded in no way like anything 268 00:13:40,160 --> 00:13:43,520 Speaker 2: Trump has ever sounded like in any of our lives. 269 00:13:44,080 --> 00:13:46,440 Speaker 2: I don't know that it would actually be a good dive. 270 00:13:47,320 --> 00:13:49,720 Speaker 2: I don't know that Trump's ever used the word enigma 271 00:13:49,880 --> 00:13:52,240 Speaker 2: in any of his speeches or any of his comments. 272 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:56,000 Speaker 2: I don't think it's used appropriately in this sort of 273 00:13:56,440 --> 00:14:00,600 Speaker 2: mess up. But I also it doesn't sound like anything 274 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:04,439 Speaker 2: Trump would write. So point one, I don't really understand, 275 00:14:04,480 --> 00:14:06,640 Speaker 2: and open phone lines if you can tell me why 276 00:14:06,679 --> 00:14:10,000 Speaker 2: this is relevant worthy of front page storyedom in the 277 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:13,400 Speaker 2: Wall Street Journal. Point two, I just don't believe it, 278 00:14:13,920 --> 00:14:18,600 Speaker 2: like it sets off the radar detector in me. Of yes, 279 00:14:18,760 --> 00:14:22,040 Speaker 2: something just doesn't add up here. I don't think that 280 00:14:22,400 --> 00:14:26,520 Speaker 2: it is real. So anyway, that is the latest. I 281 00:14:26,560 --> 00:14:28,920 Speaker 2: actually think this helps Trump because again it looks like 282 00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:32,240 Speaker 2: his enemies are being more outrageous and outlandish than he 283 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:35,720 Speaker 2: often is. Life in Israel. Contrast, in Tel Aviv, you 284 00:14:35,720 --> 00:14:39,560 Speaker 2: see high rise construction cranes indicating growth, investment, and optimism 285 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:42,800 Speaker 2: for the future, but you also hear sirens giving residents 286 00:14:42,840 --> 00:14:45,800 Speaker 2: a ten minute warning of an incoming missile attack. Everyone 287 00:14:45,880 --> 00:14:49,000 Speaker 2: relies on an app to find the nearest bomb shelter. 288 00:14:49,880 --> 00:14:53,120 Speaker 2: The International Fellowship of Christians and Jews has been placing 289 00:14:53,160 --> 00:14:56,640 Speaker 2: new bomb shelters across the country, along with necessary supplies 290 00:14:57,000 --> 00:15:00,520 Speaker 2: for existing bomb shelters. While I was in Israel last December, 291 00:15:00,560 --> 00:15:04,400 Speaker 2: we visited an IFCJ donated bombshelter place next to a 292 00:15:04,440 --> 00:15:08,280 Speaker 2: falawful business. 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Find it on the 300 00:15:38,120 --> 00:15:41,320 Speaker 6: iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts. 301 00:15:41,720 --> 00:15:44,320 Speaker 2: Welcome back in Let me give you some good news here, 302 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:46,880 Speaker 2: and we're gonna have some fun with this too. So 303 00:15:46,920 --> 00:15:51,239 Speaker 2: the Wall Street Journal story, open forum, you can give talkbacks, 304 00:15:51,240 --> 00:15:53,680 Speaker 2: you can react to it. That is out there. It 305 00:15:53,720 --> 00:15:56,760 Speaker 2: has gotten a lot of attention. What has not gotten 306 00:15:56,800 --> 00:16:01,240 Speaker 2: as much attention has really the joyful occasion that I 307 00:16:01,240 --> 00:16:05,520 Speaker 2: think it is. Stephen Colbert's show was canceled on CBS 308 00:16:05,560 --> 00:16:10,920 Speaker 2: News News broke yesterday evening. This is the crazy left 309 00:16:10,960 --> 00:16:16,800 Speaker 2: wing comedy in quotation, show that basically destroyed late night television. 310 00:16:16,920 --> 00:16:22,440 Speaker 2: CBS Sport, CBS News has ended it, and simultaneously, late 311 00:16:22,520 --> 00:16:25,400 Speaker 2: last night, after many of us had already gone to bed, 312 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:30,000 Speaker 2: the House came over the top and agreed with the Senate, 313 00:16:30,520 --> 00:16:36,200 Speaker 2: and PBS and NPR have officially had their taxpayer money pulled. 314 00:16:36,560 --> 00:16:39,440 Speaker 2: And I think this is a huge story because, as 315 00:16:39,480 --> 00:16:42,080 Speaker 2: we talked about yesterday with Senator Marshall Blackburn, we'll talk 316 00:16:42,120 --> 00:16:45,040 Speaker 2: about this a little bit probably with Senator Dave McCormick 317 00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:48,280 Speaker 2: in the next hour. For generations, going all the way 318 00:16:48,320 --> 00:16:51,240 Speaker 2: back to Ronald Reagan, Republicans have said, hey, we're going 319 00:16:51,320 --> 00:16:54,280 Speaker 2: to do this, We're going to do this, and Trump 320 00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:57,760 Speaker 2: did it with this Republican party. So now none of 321 00:16:57,840 --> 00:17:00,840 Speaker 2: our dollars, none of yours, none of mine, no taxpayer 322 00:17:00,880 --> 00:17:04,159 Speaker 2: dollars are going to subsidize NPR and PBS. And I 323 00:17:04,160 --> 00:17:06,400 Speaker 2: would just point out buck for people out there and say, well, 324 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:09,480 Speaker 2: it's not such a big deal. Why did NPR and 325 00:17:09,600 --> 00:17:15,280 Speaker 2: PBS fight like their entire fate as an organization was 326 00:17:15,320 --> 00:17:17,000 Speaker 2: on the line here? I really, I. 327 00:17:16,960 --> 00:17:19,840 Speaker 1: Really think I don't I don't know, Clay, if you 328 00:17:20,160 --> 00:17:22,199 Speaker 1: if you co sign this, or or if any of 329 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:26,160 Speaker 1: you co sign this, But I really think that it's 330 00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:30,919 Speaker 1: because there's this pretense and this arrogance that NPR and 331 00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:35,959 Speaker 1: PBS deserve public funding because they're neutral in their news 332 00:17:36,600 --> 00:17:39,560 Speaker 1: and they're you know, they're basically it's it's a it's 333 00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:43,960 Speaker 1: proof of their elevated status in the news ecosystem, and 334 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:45,240 Speaker 1: that needs to be stripped away. 335 00:17:46,680 --> 00:17:47,840 Speaker 2: The PBS show here too. 336 00:17:47,920 --> 00:17:49,680 Speaker 3: We can just do this for hours at a time. 337 00:17:50,240 --> 00:17:52,600 Speaker 2: I think it's because there's a lot more money that 338 00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:55,640 Speaker 2: is being connected to this than they have let on publicly. Too. 339 00:17:55,920 --> 00:17:57,960 Speaker 3: They say it's like ten percent of their budget or something. 340 00:17:58,000 --> 00:17:58,879 Speaker 2: But you know, we'll see. 341 00:17:59,240 --> 00:18:02,240 Speaker 1: Okay, this is not a topic that is a joy 342 00:18:02,280 --> 00:18:04,960 Speaker 1: to talk about, obviously, but something you need to talk 343 00:18:04,960 --> 00:18:07,600 Speaker 1: about and you need to take action on it. A 344 00:18:07,640 --> 00:18:10,720 Speaker 1: will and a trust, a trust or a will, My friends, 345 00:18:10,960 --> 00:18:13,359 Speaker 1: you need to have a plan for your family moving forward. 346 00:18:13,680 --> 00:18:15,720 Speaker 1: This is just something you want to get done. And 347 00:18:15,760 --> 00:18:17,119 Speaker 1: as soon as you get it done, unless you ever 348 00:18:17,160 --> 00:18:20,040 Speaker 1: ever think about getting it done, don't procrastinate on this. 349 00:18:20,160 --> 00:18:22,280 Speaker 1: I know that's so easy. Look, I have a trust 350 00:18:22,359 --> 00:18:24,520 Speaker 1: or will Clay has a trust or a will. You 351 00:18:24,600 --> 00:18:28,800 Speaker 1: should too. It's so easy to set up now because 352 00:18:28,960 --> 00:18:32,960 Speaker 1: of trust and Will dot com Good to Trustenwill dot 353 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:36,640 Speaker 1: com slash buck. It's so easy to get your wishes 354 00:18:36,720 --> 00:18:39,480 Speaker 1: laid out and make an easy plan for your family 355 00:18:39,760 --> 00:18:41,520 Speaker 1: when that day comes and we know what's coming for 356 00:18:41,560 --> 00:18:43,240 Speaker 1: all of us. Once you see how easy it is, 357 00:18:43,240 --> 00:18:45,080 Speaker 1: you realize, oh, I'm so glad I got this done. 358 00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:47,960 Speaker 1: Good to Trust and Will dot com slash buck. Make 359 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:50,760 Speaker 1: sure you include my name to save twenty percent. That's 360 00:18:50,800 --> 00:18:54,200 Speaker 1: trust and Will dot com slash buck for twenty percent off. 361 00:18:54,600 --> 00:18:56,800 Speaker 5: You know, it's everywhere, it's you know leads us all 362 00:18:57,000 --> 00:18:57,600 Speaker 5: you know druh. 363 00:18:57,800 --> 00:18:59,000 Speaker 2: Just it's all over the place with. 364 00:18:59,320 --> 00:19:02,919 Speaker 5: You know irens andras woo because it's someone Drew Au 365 00:19:03,119 --> 00:19:06,960 Speaker 5: in two thousand and three, might have drawn a picture 366 00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:10,359 Speaker 5: of a I don't know a body letter before the 367 00:19:10,359 --> 00:19:13,520 Speaker 5: guy even you know, all the real info had even 368 00:19:13,560 --> 00:19:14,560 Speaker 5: been out at that point. 369 00:19:14,600 --> 00:19:16,080 Speaker 2: I don't think about this guy. 370 00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:19,840 Speaker 7: The President and I talked about that ridiculous allegation this morning, 371 00:19:19,840 --> 00:19:22,480 Speaker 7: and he said, it's patently absurd. He's never drawn such 372 00:19:22,480 --> 00:19:24,880 Speaker 7: a picture. He's never thought of drawing such a picture. 373 00:19:25,080 --> 00:19:26,919 Speaker 7: And he said, did you see the language of this 374 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:30,720 Speaker 7: bogus supposed communication or card or something I supposedly sent 375 00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:31,200 Speaker 7: to Epstein? 376 00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:32,800 Speaker 2: He said, I don't talk like that. I don't think 377 00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:33,080 Speaker 2: like that. 378 00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:36,520 Speaker 7: They're literally making things up. He's so frustrated by it, 379 00:19:36,800 --> 00:19:38,800 Speaker 7: and he's going to wind up, I think, suing some 380 00:19:38,840 --> 00:19:41,040 Speaker 7: of the media outlets that had put all this out there. 381 00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:45,119 Speaker 1: I just let's just unpack this for a second, shall we. 382 00:19:46,040 --> 00:19:48,080 Speaker 1: Clay and I are talking about this. We're trying to 383 00:19:48,080 --> 00:19:51,840 Speaker 1: be fair to the facts, most important thing we can do. 384 00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:52,080 Speaker 4: Right. 385 00:19:52,119 --> 00:19:53,679 Speaker 3: Fair to the facts meanings speak the truth. 386 00:19:54,359 --> 00:19:57,240 Speaker 1: And I don't see any news value in this story whatsoever, 387 00:19:57,480 --> 00:20:01,359 Speaker 1: and I therefore question why the Wall Street journ would 388 00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:05,399 Speaker 1: publish it. It seems to me like you have to 389 00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:07,440 Speaker 1: go to the thinking, as we always say on the show. 390 00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:11,200 Speaker 1: It's important to remember, right, Clay, the most important decision 391 00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:14,480 Speaker 1: you make from editorial perspective is what to cover and 392 00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:16,760 Speaker 1: what not to That's right, right. What you spend time 393 00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:19,400 Speaker 1: on is number one. That is the most powerful thing. 394 00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:23,360 Speaker 1: How you frame it, what words you use, Yeah, that matters, 395 00:20:23,400 --> 00:20:26,320 Speaker 1: That shapes the perception. But what's worth your time and 396 00:20:26,359 --> 00:20:28,760 Speaker 1: what's not that's step one. This is the this is 397 00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:31,480 Speaker 1: the beginning of the whole journey. And I don't understand 398 00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:34,359 Speaker 1: why they publish the story at all. And I'm not 399 00:20:34,440 --> 00:20:38,040 Speaker 1: alone on this one, h Clay's Clay's right there with me, 400 00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:40,679 Speaker 1: but also others that you wouldn't necessarily expect. I mean, 401 00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:44,760 Speaker 1: here is formerly of CNN, Chris Cuomo. This is cut three. 402 00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:45,840 Speaker 1: Listen to this play it. 403 00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:49,840 Speaker 8: This Wall Street Journal piece is a hack job, okay. 404 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:52,480 Speaker 8: And he says he's suing Rupert Murdoch, who he you know, 405 00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:54,639 Speaker 8: is his buddy. They have, you know, Fox kind of 406 00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:57,880 Speaker 8: made Trump, and he's suing the journal, He's suing everybody. 407 00:20:57,960 --> 00:20:59,160 Speaker 2: He says he didn't. 408 00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:01,639 Speaker 8: Write the birthday let or that they're ascribing to him 409 00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:03,679 Speaker 8: to Epstein for his fiftieth birthday. 410 00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:05,359 Speaker 2: I mean, it's so stupid. 411 00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:05,800 Speaker 9: Okay. 412 00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:09,119 Speaker 8: The Epstein story is about abusing kids who didn't have 413 00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:11,399 Speaker 8: the power or agency to do anything about it. That 414 00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:14,119 Speaker 8: rich and powerful people may have known it was going 415 00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:15,040 Speaker 8: on and they. 416 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:16,440 Speaker 2: Got away with it. That's the story. 417 00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:17,040 Speaker 3: Okay. 418 00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:20,879 Speaker 8: It's not that Trump liked a scumbag. Okay, now I 419 00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:22,840 Speaker 8: get that. In the media, this is great because it's 420 00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:25,000 Speaker 8: bad for Trump. But he's going crazy and he's gonna 421 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:26,960 Speaker 8: pump and move the story for the Wall Street Journal 422 00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:28,639 Speaker 8: right now by saying it's fake and it's wrong, but 423 00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:30,120 Speaker 8: it doesn't move the needle in the country. 424 00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:32,760 Speaker 3: I think that's correct. 425 00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:35,560 Speaker 1: I mean it's they're just sticking a thumb in Trump's 426 00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:37,879 Speaker 1: eye for no reason other than you know what it is, Clay. 427 00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:41,160 Speaker 1: They think that they can right now for the first time, 428 00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:43,479 Speaker 1: they think Trump's a little bit not on the ropes. 429 00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:45,520 Speaker 1: But you know, he's been staggered for the first time 430 00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:48,240 Speaker 1: in his presidency, and you can just tell some people 431 00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:51,080 Speaker 1: are looking to just get a little shot in when 432 00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:55,600 Speaker 1: he's not paying attention. Earlier this week, we praised Joe Scarborough. 433 00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:59,359 Speaker 1: Now I gotta praise Chris Cuomo. I think Chris Cuomo 434 00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:00,000 Speaker 1: nailed it. 435 00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:04,800 Speaker 2: There is no story here as we were saying off air, 436 00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:09,400 Speaker 2: if it came out that Trump was sleeping with one 437 00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:13,880 Speaker 2: of the same women underage that Jeffrey Epstein was, that's 438 00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:17,720 Speaker 2: a story. I'm sorry. If that's the allegation, that's a 439 00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:20,560 Speaker 2: front page you better have, you better have, you better 440 00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:20,840 Speaker 2: have it. 441 00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:24,160 Speaker 3: Rock solid Allo, and then some yeah. 442 00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:27,320 Speaker 2: But I'm saying the first question to me that you 443 00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:29,400 Speaker 2: have to ask, and I say this as a guy 444 00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:32,280 Speaker 2: who runs a media company right for a long time 445 00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:36,240 Speaker 2: at OutKick, The first question you have to ask is 446 00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:42,160 Speaker 2: is this news that is significant and worthy of multiple 447 00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:46,639 Speaker 2: reporters on it front page news? Uh, my answer is no. 448 00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:52,080 Speaker 2: And then the second part is is it true? To me? 449 00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:56,199 Speaker 2: It doesn't read as true because it doesn't sound like 450 00:22:56,280 --> 00:22:59,320 Speaker 2: something Trump would have done. So point one, who cares? 451 00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:03,240 Speaker 2: Point two, I don't even think it's accurate. I think 452 00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:05,480 Speaker 2: this is a whiff by The Wall Street Journal, a 453 00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:09,080 Speaker 2: newspaper that I generally like. I think they were the 454 00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:14,040 Speaker 2: best media outlet during COVID. They featured diverse voices their 455 00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:17,080 Speaker 2: opinion page. But I think this is a whiff. If 456 00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:19,560 Speaker 2: I were the editor of the Wall Street Journal, I 457 00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:22,320 Speaker 2: would have I think that's some important covering this. We're not. 458 00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:24,680 Speaker 1: It's not like the New York Times, where I think 459 00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:28,720 Speaker 1: the whole thing, Uh, what's the what's the phrase from 460 00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:29,879 Speaker 1: Hicks and Aliens? 461 00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:35,440 Speaker 2: Like the news the New York Times Byeline at the time. 462 00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:37,160 Speaker 1: No, no, no, I know that's the phrase. I'm talking about, 463 00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:39,439 Speaker 1: the phrase from the movie Aliens. I think we have 464 00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:41,680 Speaker 1: to nuke the side from orbit. We have to nuke 465 00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:43,600 Speaker 1: the site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure. 466 00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:45,680 Speaker 1: That's how I feel about the New York Times. Okay, 467 00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:48,360 Speaker 1: Like the New York Times is the death star for America. 468 00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:49,399 Speaker 3: Uh. 469 00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:51,719 Speaker 1: And I'm mixing my metaphors there, but you guys all 470 00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:54,520 Speaker 1: get what I'm saying. Uh And and I think that 471 00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:57,560 Speaker 1: that's funny. Clay goes right to the actual, the actual. 472 00:23:57,760 --> 00:24:00,280 Speaker 1: I'm trying to site one of my favorite James Cameron movies, 473 00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:01,879 Speaker 1: which is Aliens, which is a great flick. 474 00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:02,560 Speaker 2: Uh. 475 00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:07,399 Speaker 1: So yeah, I would say this Clay. Generally, we're well 476 00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:10,080 Speaker 1: predisposed toward The New York Times. Kim Strassele is a friend, 477 00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:12,480 Speaker 1: great writer, really sharp, really smart, a lot of really 478 00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:15,040 Speaker 1: good people, a lot of doing very good work at 479 00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:17,679 Speaker 1: the Wall Street Journal. So that's why this is. I 480 00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:20,399 Speaker 1: you know what I can say this, I'm actually you know, 481 00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:24,760 Speaker 1: when your parents is I'm disappointed in you with the 482 00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:28,280 Speaker 1: Wall Street Journal. I'm disappointed in you that I really 483 00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:30,800 Speaker 1: feel that way. All these other news sites, we're just 484 00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:34,080 Speaker 1: you know, holding them to holding them to account, holding 485 00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:36,359 Speaker 1: their feet to the fire. But we expected, right, we 486 00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:38,440 Speaker 1: expect them to act like maniacs. 487 00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:40,520 Speaker 3: I expected more from the Wall Street Journal. 488 00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:42,240 Speaker 2: I'm a little I'm a little bothered by this, a 489 00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:46,760 Speaker 2: little myfed. I I don't think it's that's a great 490 00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:48,840 Speaker 2: way of putting it. And now for all of you 491 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:52,560 Speaker 2: out there that are parents or grandparents, and certainly if 492 00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:57,679 Speaker 2: your kids, Hey I'm not mad, just really disappointed is 493 00:24:57,720 --> 00:25:02,720 Speaker 2: the ultimate dagger parent line. Way better than being just angry. Hey, 494 00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:06,600 Speaker 2: you know, calmly, not mad, just really disappointed at the 495 00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:10,120 Speaker 2: choices you've made. I'm disappointed in the choices the Wall 496 00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:13,800 Speaker 2: Street Journal made here because I don't think again, and 497 00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:16,600 Speaker 2: I don't think a team. Let me know, has anybody 498 00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:21,479 Speaker 2: made a newsworthy explanation for why this is hugely important 499 00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:24,080 Speaker 2: to your point? Buck? We have known that Epstein and 500 00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:26,240 Speaker 2: Trump knew each other for a long time. There are 501 00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:29,040 Speaker 2: pictures of them together. I think there's some videos of 502 00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:32,439 Speaker 2: them together at public parties before. Trump has given a 503 00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:36,080 Speaker 2: quote about Jeffrey Epstein and his proclivity for young kids 504 00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:40,159 Speaker 2: young women twenty some odd years ago in a New 505 00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:43,879 Speaker 2: York magazine article. If I remember correctly, and we knew 506 00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:47,360 Speaker 2: the whole story about Trump banning Jeffrey Epstein from mar 507 00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:52,760 Speaker 2: A Lago over reportedly dalliances with younger daughters of members 508 00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:54,679 Speaker 2: of mar A Lago, and him just saying this is 509 00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:58,520 Speaker 2: like I'm drawing the line here. It wouldn't be a 510 00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:02,960 Speaker 2: surprise to me if if this happened, but I wouldn't 511 00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:06,520 Speaker 2: see it, meaning the article, the body thing. But this 512 00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:10,080 Speaker 2: doesn't sound like Trump. This doesn't sound like Trump against all. 513 00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:14,399 Speaker 2: And I'm not even being exaggerating here. I don't know 514 00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:18,240 Speaker 2: that Trump would ever use the word enigma in any way. 515 00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:21,040 Speaker 2: I certainly don't think have you ever known Trump to 516 00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:25,240 Speaker 2: make up a fake conversation and write it out like 517 00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:30,360 Speaker 2: he's a screenplay or writer, like a frustrated writer. This 518 00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:32,640 Speaker 2: does not in any way resonate like Trump. I put 519 00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:34,959 Speaker 2: up a poll question. You can go vote in this. 520 00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:37,000 Speaker 2: We'll also share it from the Clay and Buck account. 521 00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:41,200 Speaker 2: Do you believe this report? Thousands of you have already 522 00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:46,080 Speaker 2: voted eighty six percent of you say no, So eighty 523 00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:49,160 Speaker 2: six percent of my Twitter audience right now says flat out, 524 00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:52,880 Speaker 2: I don't believe that this story is true. I also think, Buck, 525 00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:55,280 Speaker 2: if you think about the way that this whole story 526 00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:58,680 Speaker 2: is gone, I think it shifts the story away from 527 00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:02,720 Speaker 2: Epstein and it turns it into Trump's connection to Epstein, 528 00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:05,159 Speaker 2: which is a very different story. This is why I 529 00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:08,720 Speaker 2: think Chris Cuomo nailed it. The story with Epstein is 530 00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:13,760 Speaker 2: he preyed on younger women. You heard in detail Alan 531 00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:16,720 Speaker 2: Dershowitz explain what he pled guilty to yesterday. If you didn't, 532 00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:19,199 Speaker 2: I would encourage you to go listen to that, And 533 00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:23,080 Speaker 2: others may have known and also been complicit in their 534 00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:27,240 Speaker 2: own illegal behavior associated with Epstein. That is the story 535 00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:31,439 Speaker 2: with Epstein, him having a fiftieth birthday card and Trump 536 00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:34,520 Speaker 2: writing a message in it is not the story. It's 537 00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:39,040 Speaker 2: just designed to try to attack Trump by the associational 538 00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:42,159 Speaker 2: negativity proximity that they are able to put in place 539 00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:45,840 Speaker 2: with Jeffrey Epstein. So I just think this is a 540 00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:49,680 Speaker 2: huge swing in a miss and unless there's something more here, 541 00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:53,879 Speaker 2: I really questioned the news value of this in general. 542 00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:57,840 Speaker 2: I mean I signed a ton of high school yearbooks 543 00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:00,840 Speaker 2: back in the day. I bet you did too. I 544 00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:03,840 Speaker 2: bet everybody out there listening has signed a ton of 545 00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:07,480 Speaker 2: high school yearbooks. If the person whose high school yearbook 546 00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:11,560 Speaker 2: you signed in a body way ended up getting arrested 547 00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:14,400 Speaker 2: for a crime, with the fact that you signed their 548 00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:18,240 Speaker 2: high school yearbook before they were a criminal in a 549 00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:21,400 Speaker 2: body way be news worthy. 550 00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:24,200 Speaker 1: It reminds me of It reminds me of a Kavanaugh, 551 00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:27,119 Speaker 1: remember when when they were trying to destroy him, a 552 00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:30,959 Speaker 1: manifestly innocent man, if there is such a thing as 553 00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:33,199 Speaker 1: a man who's innocent of what he is accused of, 554 00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:37,560 Speaker 1: and they made him explain that bluefing meant farting because 555 00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:41,719 Speaker 1: it was written in his high school yearbook. They actually 556 00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:44,600 Speaker 1: made a now Supreme Court justice explained that under oath 557 00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:47,959 Speaker 1: before the United States Senate, because anything to try to 558 00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:51,560 Speaker 1: malign or undermine his character they were willing to do. 559 00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:53,520 Speaker 1: And you sit there like, what does that have to 560 00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:56,479 Speaker 1: do with anything? It had nothing to change, But that 561 00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:57,520 Speaker 1: changed my politics. 562 00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:00,640 Speaker 2: I mean, that was the final pivot point where when 563 00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:04,200 Speaker 2: you're quizzing somebody who's sitting for the Supreme Court on 564 00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:08,800 Speaker 2: what he wrote in his high school yearbook as evidence 565 00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:11,479 Speaker 2: of whether or not he is qualified to be a 566 00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:15,360 Speaker 2: Supreme Court justice. He or she I want to curse. 567 00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:19,760 Speaker 2: Just get out of here. It was so transparently absurd, 568 00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:22,640 Speaker 2: and all of you who watch those hearings felt it too. 569 00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:28,360 Speaker 2: It it This is a version of that. How is 570 00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:31,680 Speaker 2: it newsworthy again? I think you're I think your parent analogy. 571 00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:35,680 Speaker 2: I'm not mad, I'm just disappointed. Really applies here because 572 00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:39,240 Speaker 2: the Washington Post writes it. I mean, democracy dies in darkness. 573 00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:45,880 Speaker 1: Okay, the New York Times, you real big newspapers. I 574 00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:47,160 Speaker 1: know we think of The Wall Street I think of 575 00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:49,360 Speaker 1: it as a website now, but it's a newspaper. There's 576 00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:52,040 Speaker 1: so few real newspapers out there that I have any 577 00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:55,320 Speaker 1: expectation of fairness or professionalism from that. 578 00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:58,760 Speaker 3: This one. This one was was like, this is disappointing, 579 00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:00,000 Speaker 3: is the best word. I'm disappointed. 580 00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:03,120 Speaker 2: I mean the same way New York Post. We love 581 00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:05,360 Speaker 2: Miranda Divine. If the New York Post had run this, 582 00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:07,960 Speaker 2: they were right on all the Biden laptop story to 583 00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:09,760 Speaker 2: their credit. I would look at this and I would say, 584 00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:12,040 Speaker 2: New York Post, I'm kind of disappointed in you. 585 00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:14,920 Speaker 1: We like the fact that President Trump is looking at 586 00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:17,920 Speaker 1: our nation's problems from a different point of view, trying 587 00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:21,160 Speaker 1: to solve them. Some of his actions may make people 588 00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:23,760 Speaker 1: stop and think for a minute or two, but there's 589 00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:26,640 Speaker 1: reasoning behind his actions and a lot of contemplation. So 590 00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:29,880 Speaker 1: if you hear about this administration's plan to monetize natural 591 00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:32,840 Speaker 1: resources underneath our nation's surface, just know that there's a 592 00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:36,200 Speaker 1: lot of thinking behind it. According to our former presidential 593 00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:39,280 Speaker 1: advisor Jim Rickards, the same man who correctly predicted the 594 00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:41,760 Speaker 1: two thousand and eight crash, Trump's twenty sixteen victory, and 595 00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:45,280 Speaker 1: the twenty twenty pandemic, this is much much bigger. Jim 596 00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:47,760 Speaker 1: Rickards believes President Trump is about to unleash one hundred 597 00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:50,520 Speaker 1: and fifty trillion dollars state owned asset that's been hidden 598 00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:53,080 Speaker 1: for over a century. It's good trigger an economic boom 599 00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:55,480 Speaker 1: not seen in a century and send one small sector 600 00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:57,800 Speaker 1: of the market skyrocketing. But you need to act quickly. 601 00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:01,000 Speaker 1: Remember President Trump moves fast, and he wants to get 602 00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:02,960 Speaker 1: as much initiated in the first two years of his 603 00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:05,920 Speaker 1: second term as he can. Once this breaks his mainstream news, 604 00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:09,520 Speaker 1: that opportunity could vanish forever. Watch Jim Rickard's interview. Here 605 00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:13,440 Speaker 1: go to Birthright twenty twenty five dot com. That's Birthright 606 00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:15,920 Speaker 1: twenty twenty five dot com. 607 00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:19,000 Speaker 6: Cheek out with the guys on the Sunday Hang with 608 00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:20,480 Speaker 6: Clay and Buck podcast. 609 00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:22,520 Speaker 2: A new episode of Every Sunday. 610 00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:25,960 Speaker 6: Find it on the iheartapp or wherever you get your podcasts. 611 00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:29,760 Speaker 2: Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton show. You're breaking 612 00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:34,760 Speaker 2: down everything going on in the world as a whole, 613 00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:36,920 Speaker 2: as we do every single day. Also hoping to take 614 00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:40,320 Speaker 2: you into the weekend in a good mood. A bunch 615 00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:45,320 Speaker 2: of people want to weigh in and let's see, by 616 00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:47,640 Speaker 2: the way, Senator Dave McCormick going to join us at 617 00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:50,400 Speaker 2: the top of the next hour. Encourage all of you 618 00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:53,320 Speaker 2: to go check out Crockett Coffee. I want these books 619 00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:58,600 Speaker 2: out of my house. Actually, Laura Travis wants these books 620 00:31:58,640 --> 00:31:59,360 Speaker 2: out of the house. 621 00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:01,640 Speaker 3: Don't want la at you. 622 00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:02,280 Speaker 2: That's you. 623 00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:03,160 Speaker 3: Don't want to mad at you. 624 00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:05,040 Speaker 1: So make sure that you sign up and you use 625 00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:07,600 Speaker 1: code code book otherwise. 626 00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:09,120 Speaker 3: We can't help you. He's good. 627 00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:13,040 Speaker 2: I'm in trouble at Crockettcoffee dot com. Get the books 628 00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:15,000 Speaker 2: out of the house. A bunch you went away in. 629 00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:18,600 Speaker 2: Let's hit some of these calls. Kyle in South Carolina, 630 00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:21,000 Speaker 2: what do you think about the Wall Street Journal report? 631 00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:25,800 Speaker 4: Hey, guys, love what you do. Real quick. If you 632 00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:27,920 Speaker 4: look at one of the authors of the Wall Street 633 00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:33,760 Speaker 4: Journal piece, they used to work for a publication, Main Justice, 634 00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:37,400 Speaker 4: which is owned by Glenn Simpson's wife, and it's open 635 00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:42,440 Speaker 4: reporting now that the DOJ they're using the Grand Conspiracy 636 00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:45,600 Speaker 4: to run through the statute of limitations against the whole 637 00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:49,200 Speaker 4: cabal of malcontents who came up with the Russia collusion Hopes. 638 00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:52,640 Speaker 4: This is classic laundering of a hit piece through reputable 639 00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:57,720 Speaker 4: publication just to redirect attention, not necessarily as an attack 640 00:32:57,800 --> 00:33:01,520 Speaker 4: on Trump, but to undermine the JAY and insimulate that 641 00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:05,040 Speaker 4: they're hiding this information so that it'll ruin their credibility 642 00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:07,280 Speaker 4: in any future case. Is going all the way back 643 00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:09,840 Speaker 4: to the inception of the Russia Hopes. 644 00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:12,320 Speaker 2: Okay, so thank you for the call. Look, I don't 645 00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:15,280 Speaker 2: even think you need to analyze how this story came 646 00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:18,560 Speaker 2: to be written. To me. It goes back to our question. 647 00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:21,760 Speaker 2: If you came out and you alleged something that was 648 00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:25,000 Speaker 2: criminal in nature that Trump had done that was connected 649 00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:27,320 Speaker 2: to Jeffrey Epstein. I would say, oh wow, this is 650 00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:30,960 Speaker 2: a story. Whether you believe it or disbelieve it, then 651 00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:33,440 Speaker 2: I think you can go into the conspiracy thing. I 652 00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:36,720 Speaker 2: don't even think you need to go into the conspiracy side. 653 00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:38,320 Speaker 2: I think you just look at this and you're like, 654 00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:43,760 Speaker 2: so cares. I think my yearbook analogy. Two famous people 655 00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:45,960 Speaker 2: happen to go to the same high school. One writes 656 00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:49,800 Speaker 2: a body thing in the high school yearbook, and then 657 00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:52,680 Speaker 2: the other person who has got the yearbook ends up 658 00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:56,880 Speaker 2: getting arrested years later for serious crimes. It's just like 659 00:33:57,000 --> 00:34:00,680 Speaker 2: kind of a click baity headline. Oh two famous people. 660 00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:03,640 Speaker 2: It doesn't even add up. It doesn't pass the smell 661 00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:04,120 Speaker 2: test to me. 662 00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:07,040 Speaker 1: To bring our conversation full circle, I mean, would it 663 00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:10,000 Speaker 1: be would it be body if you wrote about a 664 00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:14,479 Speaker 1: Bucksom lass? I, well. 665 00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:17,279 Speaker 2: We were talking about this off air. Would Buck use 666 00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:21,120 Speaker 2: the phrase bucksom lass on the show earlier this week? 667 00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:23,200 Speaker 2: First of all, I couldn't keep a straight face. But 668 00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:27,680 Speaker 2: it makes me think that all of this I want 669 00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:29,480 Speaker 2: to go back in time and bring back like the 670 00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:34,279 Speaker 2: eighteen hundred's ways that we described women and try to 671 00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:36,440 Speaker 2: use it in normal conversation and just see if I 672 00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:39,680 Speaker 2: can pass it off and nobody like double blinks. It's like, 673 00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:43,480 Speaker 2: have you heard every now and then you'll see somebody 674 00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:46,400 Speaker 2: say like, oh my goodness, I grab my pearls and 675 00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:49,560 Speaker 2: I'm falling on my fainting couch. I don't really know 676 00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:51,600 Speaker 2: when women did that. Have you seen that phrase? Every 677 00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:53,360 Speaker 2: now and then you'll see like the picture of the 678 00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:55,560 Speaker 2: maiden in distress where she's like grabbing her. 679 00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:58,640 Speaker 1: Is it a Southern thing to say I've got the vapors? 680 00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:01,960 Speaker 1: Or is that just a a probably old time. They're 681 00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:04,040 Speaker 1: probably a Southern thing because it's so hot down here. 682 00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:07,480 Speaker 1: I would think that's probably connected to that, And honestly 683 00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:11,520 Speaker 1: a Southern thing that I could say applied to this 684 00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:15,600 Speaker 1: Wall Street Journal story is bless their hearts. Bless their hearts. 685 00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:18,800 Speaker 1: You did something really bad. When a grandma is like, oh, blessed, blessed, blessed, 686 00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:20,719 Speaker 1: I've learned what that means. Bless is when I said, 687 00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:23,680 Speaker 1: for example, that min julips are overrated, a lot of 688 00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:27,040 Speaker 1: Kentucky and Tennessee folks were like, bless your heart, and 689 00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:27,319 Speaker 1: I did. 690 00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:28,080 Speaker 2: They didn't. 691 00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:31,560 Speaker 1: They're not really blessing me, clay what I had. They're 692 00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:34,279 Speaker 1: not really blessing. It is not an actual endorse. It's 693 00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:36,720 Speaker 1: not a positive statement, but it is very Southern because 694 00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:39,080 Speaker 1: it has the coverage of being a positive statement. 695 00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:42,920 Speaker 2: But it is not Joe in Lacrosse, Wisconsin. What you 696 00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:43,319 Speaker 2: got for us? 697 00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:45,879 Speaker 3: Joe, A great show. 698 00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:49,040 Speaker 9: You guys like how you send truth out and. 699 00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:49,680 Speaker 4: You're not afraid. 700 00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:55,400 Speaker 9: I think I completely agree with both you guys. Clay, 701 00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:56,680 Speaker 9: I think you and I think quite a bit of 702 00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:59,040 Speaker 9: like because a lot of times I've listened you say 703 00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:00,840 Speaker 9: a lot of things that I letely agree with. But 704 00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:05,280 Speaker 9: I think this is the swamp trying to go after Trump, 705 00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:08,799 Speaker 9: and let's look here, let's not look at let's let's 706 00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:11,160 Speaker 9: not look at what is actually going on. And I 707 00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:14,040 Speaker 9: think when Trump called it a hoax, I think this 708 00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:15,680 Speaker 9: is going to settle for a lot of people, that 709 00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:18,080 Speaker 9: people are going to go, Okay, this is just what 710 00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:20,560 Speaker 9: he was talking about. It's a made up a lot 711 00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:23,280 Speaker 9: of things. You know, Trump probably he knew. 712 00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:25,880 Speaker 1: Him, you know, he might have gotten ahead of this 713 00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:27,759 Speaker 1: not to jump in your call. I think he knew 714 00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:31,040 Speaker 1: this story was coming and got very frustrated because if 715 00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:33,920 Speaker 1: he were talking about the hoax, and then I would 716 00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:36,160 Speaker 1: with this story I'll go, yeah, I get what he's saying. 717 00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:38,359 Speaker 3: This is nonsense. This is not a real attack on Trump. 718 00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:39,160 Speaker 3: This is garbage. 719 00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:44,160 Speaker 2: I think Joe's got great intellect, has great arguments, understands. 720 00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:46,359 Speaker 1: When he said you were handsome too or just right 721 00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:48,440 Speaker 1: all the time, that was a tosslay Labinair. 722 00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:50,160 Speaker 2: I mean, I love Joe, but Joe was right, and 723 00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:52,120 Speaker 2: I think you're right here, Buck. Trump was ahead of 724 00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:53,239 Speaker 2: where the story was going.