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Speaker 2: So the fifteen to ten Murray's gonna.

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Speaker 2: Slam to the ground by Buddha Baker Like a torpedo.

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Speaker 2: Here we go, one handed catching a touchdown.

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Speaker 1: Oh baby, I'll fail. Here's Craigcriolu, Paul Calvic and nine

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Speaker 1: year NFL receiver Frank Sanders.

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Speaker 3: So I'm in mistake. Earlier this week, Paul, when I

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Speaker 3: signed off here on the Cardinals Red Sea Report, I said,

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Speaker 3: talk to you in one week's time.

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Speaker 4: I was gonna say, you're going to narrow that down.

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Speaker 4: If we're talking about your mistakes, it's only an hour show, okay.

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Speaker 3: All right, Yeah, I opened the door for that one.

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Speaker 3: How about two days time? A special edition of the

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Speaker 3: Cardinals Red Sea Report here on this Thursday special because one,

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Speaker 3: we now know the initial fifty three man roster. More importantly,

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Speaker 3: Paul Frank Sanders is in studio.

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Speaker 4: Oh I thought you were gonna talk about the new uniforms.

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Speaker 3: Come on, Frank Sanders, then rivalry uniforms.

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Speaker 5: Oh my, good to be here, guys, thanks for inviting

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Speaker 5: me once again to kind of hang out talk some

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Speaker 4: I'm now quoting Born from the Desert, shaped by its

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Speaker 4: about Frank Sanders, well sort of via Alabama, but in Auburn.

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Speaker 4: But you know, I mean as a guy who wore

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Speaker 4: the glorious iconic Arizona state flag on your jersey once

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Speaker 4: upon a time. Give us your initial reaction to the

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Speaker 4: new rivalry uniforms.

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Speaker 5: I love them, I really do. I think whoever came

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Speaker 5: the narrative about you know, this place, and I love

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Speaker 5: what I'm seeing with the growth of the team. But

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Speaker 5: the new uniforms are pretty special. Unfortunately you only get

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Speaker 5: But I think the players that love to wear more

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the one time the Cardinals will wear it this

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Speaker 3: season Week four, the Thursday night game as the Cardinals

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Speaker 3: host the Seattle Seahawks. If you have not seen them,

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Speaker 3: not sure what we're talking about, I invite you to

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Speaker 3: Azycardinals dot com. Head coach Jonathan Gannon. Earlier on Thursday,

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Speaker 3: Paul signed off on his approval, calling them sick Kyler

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Speaker 3: asycardinals dot com says they're the best uniforms he's worn

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Speaker 3: since arriving in Arizona. So yes, I think one percent

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and you know a lot went into it. I

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Speaker 3: The storm is coming, and in case of today, the

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Speaker 5: Look, this is at this time of the year for

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Speaker 5: That becomes the tough decisions on the coaches to make

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Speaker 4: For example, Josh Fire made this team undrafted rookie for

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Speaker 3: But from ninety one to fifty three, here's the head

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Speaker 6: Toughest part about the business obviously, you know, because a

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Speaker 3: As we speak here on this Thursday, the Cardinals have

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Speaker 3: Cardinals still do not have a long snapper. That will

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Speaker 3: today talking about Thursday, Yes, Aaron Brewer will be back.

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Speaker 3: You cannot go through an entire season without a long snapper.

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Speaker 3: But you bring back Aaron Brewer, what does that mean

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Speaker 3: for someone already on the fifty three man roster, The speculation,

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Speaker 4: but you know what, knock on wood. That's really about it.

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Speaker 4: more friction in camp maybe got the team a little

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Speaker 5: You have to you have to go through the you

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Speaker 5: I like the fact that the guys become physical. You

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Speaker 4: Because if you look historically, most of those off tissue

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Speaker 2: What a run by Bamn Night. I've been watching him

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Speaker 6: He does what he's coached to do. He's a good runner.

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Speaker 3: The surprise of the initial fifty three man roster running

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Speaker 3: Now, I don't know how much we'll see both on

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Speaker 4: A lot of people out on that field and players,

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Speaker 4: no players think he's going to have a breakout campaign.

436
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Speaker 4: And once he learned to run like James Connor instead

437
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Speaker 4: of looking for the home run, just going north between

438
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Speaker 4: the tackles and his ability to get to the second level.

439
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Speaker 4: And now if he does get in the clear, what

440
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Speaker 4: separates him and James Connor finishing speed A dude who

441
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Speaker 4: runs a four to three. I mean, at some point

442
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Speaker 4: you're gonna have a fifty plus yard touchdown run this

443
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Speaker 4: year from Trey Benson. That's not a hot take. I

444
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Speaker 4: mean that is going to happen. We figure at some

445
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Speaker 4: point that's how good he's looked and that's the sort

446
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Speaker 4: of shape he's in. Said, he put on seven pounds

447
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Speaker 4: and he's more explosive and once again a guy who

448
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Speaker 4: ran a four to three something at the combine.

449
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Speaker 3: And how he is he in past protection? Know a

450
00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:02,840
Speaker 3: Mariy dear Mercado is your third down back, but that

451
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Speaker 3: might be a tell to defenses if it's trade on

452
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Speaker 3: the field now at tail back now all of a sudden, Okay,

453
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Speaker 3: is it a run?

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Speaker 4: Is it a path?

455
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Speaker 3: Depending on what the distance is. But that's another way

456
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Speaker 3: for Benson to get on the field a little bit more.

457
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Speaker 3: Can you hold up in pass protection.

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Speaker 5: As a running back? That's that's that's the number one

459
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Speaker 5: thing if you're the second line of defense from in

460
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Speaker 5: regards to protecting your quarterback from the offensive line. The

461
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Speaker 5: league right now is just a blitz crazy league. They're

462
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Speaker 5: bringing everyone from every spot from the from the front

463
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Speaker 5: seat to the back seat of the card. They don't matter.

464
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Speaker 5: They're trying to get to the quarterback. The reality is

465
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Speaker 5: that I think this room benefits from James Connor. He

466
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Speaker 5: is smart, intelligent, He understands what it means to be

467
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Speaker 5: a physical running back but also a blocking back. And

468
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Speaker 5: I think all these guys just have to sit back

469
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Speaker 5: and ask questions and learn on what it takes to

470
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Speaker 5: the job.

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Speaker 3: You mentioned the second line of defense, the first line

472
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Speaker 3: of defense. As far as those blitzes, the offensive line,

473
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Speaker 3: we know your starters, we know Kelvin Beacham's your swing tackle. Well,

474
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Speaker 3: Hernandez is not only on the active roster or the

475
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Speaker 3: fifty three man roster, but he's practicing ding, which is

476
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Speaker 3: something to see. As far as, by the way, not

477
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Speaker 3: even wearing a brace no on the knee, at least

478
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Speaker 3: during the open portion of practice on Wednesday.

479
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Speaker 4: Remember what Detroit came in to open the game in

480
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Speaker 4: week three, and they came out with six offensive linemen,

481
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Speaker 4: and they said, here you go, who wants them? If

482
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Speaker 4: the Cardinals once Will Hernandez is ready to go. If

483
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Speaker 4: you told me they're gonna come out with six offensive

484
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Speaker 4: linemen at some point and just elevate the whole Kramitt

485
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Speaker 4: vertical thing, I could easily easily see the Cardinals going

486
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Speaker 4: in that direction. Maybe Will Hernandez and Tip Ryman and

487
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Speaker 4: now all of a sudden, okay, here we go, here's

488
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Speaker 4: some big boy football.

489
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Speaker 3: John Gaines made the team, and then as we discussed earlier.

490
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Speaker 3: Josh Fryar, the undrafted tackle out of Ohio State, your

491
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Speaker 3: ninth offensive lineman, or at least one of the nine

492
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Speaker 3: on the field. But Jonathan Gannon very high on his

493
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Speaker 3: young tackle.

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Speaker 6: Mentally, what we asked those guys to do was never

495
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Speaker 6: too big for him.

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Speaker 5: He always kind of was.

497
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Speaker 6: He never really never really got spec up with pre

498
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Speaker 6: snap rules and assignments things like that, and then he

499
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Speaker 6: goes out and blocks his guy, you know. So that's valuable.

500
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Speaker 6: And the other thing about Josh is he can play

501
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Speaker 6: a bunch of spots, so that's that's also valuable as well.

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Speaker 3: Ten different players started at least one game on the

503
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Speaker 3: offensive line last season. There were nine different o line combinations. So,

504
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Speaker 3: frank you need that depth in the old line room.

505
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Speaker 3: You hope to not use it, but more times than not,

506
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Speaker 3: you're gonna have to bring someone off the bench, maybe

507
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Speaker 3: even off the practice squad at some point this season.

508
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Speaker 5: I'm okay with having the number of linemen that we have,

509
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Speaker 5: probably just because the fact that lineman is tough. It's

510
00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:44,080
Speaker 5: a tough position. Anything can happen. We've seen a lot

511
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Speaker 5: of injuries over the last couple of years that have

512
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Speaker 5: kind of decimated our offensive line and chains the narrative

513
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Speaker 5: on how we want to run our offense. How Drew

514
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Speaker 5: could call it offensive plays. How long Kyla had time

515
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Speaker 5: of for protection. But having the depth we have guys

516
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Speaker 5: having versatility, being able to go from guard fromator, from

517
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Speaker 5: guard to cenator to tackle and move around the litt

518
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Speaker 5: bit that just that allows the coast to feel a

519
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Speaker 5: little bit more free. How he's going to call his offense.

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Speaker 4: Just give this starting offensive line a few games healthy, right,

521
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Speaker 4: football gods, please, Isaiah Adams looked so much better than

522
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Speaker 4: last year when Jonah Williams was healthy and what was

523
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Speaker 4: it six games he played last year, the old line

524
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Speaker 4: would just I mean just the eyeball test. The old

525
00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:22,960
Speaker 4: line was just that much more stout and sound, and

526
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Speaker 4: Kyler had more time. Jonah Williams is a really technically

527
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Speaker 4: sound right tackle. And then you know, Evan Brown has

528
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Speaker 4: had a good camp. I thought he fared really well

529
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Speaker 4: at the joint practice. I was watching him go against

530
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Speaker 4: some dudes on that Denver defensive front. And we know

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Speaker 4: Paris Johnson Junior. If you're to say this is the

532
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Speaker 4: first year of the next five straight years he makes

533
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Speaker 4: a Pro Bowl, No one would be shocked by that.

534
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Speaker 4: So just give this offensive line some time to be

535
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Speaker 4: healthy and jail get that continuity, and let's see what

536
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Speaker 4: they're capable of.

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Speaker 3: You were on the sidelines Week one in Buffalo. That

538
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Speaker 3: first quarter, Kyler was not touched, the offense had very

539
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Speaker 3: little trouble against the Bills defense. Then Jonah Williams goes

540
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Speaker 3: down that final play right a first quarter and then

541
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Speaker 3: not that things fell apart, but it did affect that

542
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Speaker 3: offensive line and the offense.

543
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Speaker 4: Overall seventeen to three. They led Josh Allen and the

544
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Speaker 4: Bills early in that game, and then Jonah Williams went out,

545
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Speaker 4: things bogged down an offense, and then slowly but surely

546
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Speaker 4: the tide change and in the second half.

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Speaker 3: It's the Cardinals Red Sea Report on the Arizona Cardinals

554
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Speaker 3: Radio Network playfig Miller feeling the heat and he's gonna

555
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Speaker 3: get dropped, sess by Savior Thomas.

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Speaker 4: Savior Thomas did a really nice job right there.

557
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Speaker 2: The receiver comes across the formation, he knocks him off.

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Speaker 4: That's who the ball is pushed to go to. He

559
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Speaker 4: throws the quarterbacks timing up, then gets upfield and makes

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Speaker 4: the play on the.

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Speaker 3: Quarterback steps up and it gets dropped. Sacks by guess who,

562
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Speaker 3: Savior Thomas again, XT.

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Speaker 2: With another big play, another sack, another hit on the quarterback,

564
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Speaker 2: all of the above.

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Speaker 3: What a night he is having lived in the Raiders

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Speaker 3: backfield on Saturday in that preseason finale, two sacks, five

567
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Speaker 3: quarterback hits for Xavier Thomas, and yes, on the fifty

568
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Speaker 3: three man roster, maybe the fifth of five outside linebackers.

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Speaker 3: But that is a position, certainly that you can never

570
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Speaker 3: have enough of, and certainly don't want to get rid

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Speaker 3: of someone in that room who's capable of making plays

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Speaker 3: like XT did on Saturdays. We say welcome back. It

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Speaker 3: is the Cardinals Red Sea Report, Yes special edition. Here

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Speaker 3: on a Thursday, Creig Rayelupaul Calvc and Frank Sanders talk

575
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Speaker 3: about the defense and how about it just had a

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Speaker 3: little notes on XT based off what you saw your

577
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Speaker 3: vantage point, Paul from the TV both looking at number

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Speaker 3: fifty four.

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Speaker 4: Well, okay, a couple of conclusions. One, I know we

580
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Speaker 4: went in thinking, what did the Cardinals having terms of

581
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Speaker 4: offensive line depth. I can tell you the Raiders don't

582
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Speaker 4: have a lot. XT really exposed that. That's a conclusion

583
00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:24,760
Speaker 4: right there. Number two, there's a reason that he was

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Speaker 4: one of the most sought after recruits out of high school.

585
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Speaker 4: Why he was a freshman All American on a national

586
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Speaker 4: championship Clemson team. Why he got ample playing time as

587
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Speaker 4: a true freshman on a loaded Clemson defensive front, and

588
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Speaker 4: you saw it out there. Now are the things he

589
00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:42,199
Speaker 4: had to work on, sure, but you know what he

590
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Speaker 4: put on. He put on weight and strengthen the offseason.

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Speaker 4: He put in a.

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Speaker 5: Lot of work.

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Speaker 4: He talked about that after the game. He knew. He

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Speaker 4: knew they went out and fortified his room. I mean,

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Speaker 4: you look at it. It is night and day an

596
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Speaker 4: extreme makeover. When they Baron Browning, who's no longer injured

597
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Speaker 4: after they traded for him, he looks like a totally

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Speaker 4: different guy. He put on almost fifteen pounds a muscle,

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Speaker 4: Josh what obviously the big fish and free agency, George

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Speaker 4: Burch came in from day one, and you know that

601
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Speaker 4: guy is a dude. So Xavier Thomas had elevated his

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Speaker 4: game and that's what I like. I think he is

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Speaker 4: a good example of what's happened to the entire room

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Speaker 4: just slowly but surely gotten better, and the competition level internally,

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Speaker 4: I think is going to just pay so many dividends

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Speaker 4: for the Cardinals defense as a whole.

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Speaker 3: Frank will get your thoughts here in a moment. First though,

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Speaker 3: let's hear from the head coach, Jonathan Gannon on Xavier Thomas.

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Speaker 6: He's improved his game. You know, he's improved on fourth

610
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Speaker 6: down as well, and he's the guy that we feel

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Speaker 6: good about that's going to keep improving. Like I don't

612
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Speaker 6: think he's anywhere near his ceiling, you know, but he

613
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Speaker 6: did a lot this offseason to improve himself as a player,

614
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Speaker 6: came back, showed up, you know, and he works hard

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Speaker 6: with Matt you know, Feeni and you know that's a

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Speaker 6: different room. You know, it looks a little bit different

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Speaker 6: than it has his first year obviously, but he's excited

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Speaker 6: about continuing to get better and get ready to play.

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Speaker 3: Good to see players who put in the work in

620
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Speaker 3: the offseason have it paid dividends in preseason play and

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Speaker 3: then ultimately get rewarded earned, but rewarded what they spot

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Speaker 3: on the fifty three man roster.

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Speaker 5: You got to be proud of him. I mean, but

624
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Speaker 5: here's the one thing about the position he plays, you

625
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Speaker 5: gotta want it like the NFL. He's he might be

626
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Speaker 5: a big big man on campus at Clemson, but the

627
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Speaker 5: NFL got three hundred and some pound tackles and defense

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Speaker 5: and guards, and they mean, they're nasty at what they do.

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Speaker 5: And so if you don't want to put that work in,

630
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Speaker 5: you're gonna get smashed and it's gonna look bad not

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Speaker 5: only not only just you, but the coaches because they

632
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Speaker 5: put you out there to deal with dudes like PJ

633
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Speaker 5: and I and beat them. These guys got nasty intentions,

634
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Speaker 5: and so you gotta want that work. And I'm proud

635
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Speaker 5: of him because he had to. He had to step

636
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Speaker 5: up to he had to step up to the challenge

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Speaker 5: and he.

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Speaker 4: Made that and f he had to get better at

639
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Speaker 4: setting the edge, you know, and you know, like Nick

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Speaker 4: Graula saysity to put him out there last year at

641
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Speaker 4: times because he was a liability against the run. Right,

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Speaker 4: that's the first thing you have to prove the defensive

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Speaker 4: coaching staff, right.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, without a out. You gotta want that work

645
00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:04,160
Speaker 5: man like it's not that's not a room for cowards.

646
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Speaker 5: And you gotta you gotta want to learn technique because

647
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Speaker 5: you might be the leveraged. The leverage game might be different.

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Speaker 5: He's six two two fifty, but I'm dealing with a

649
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Speaker 5: six six three and thirty pounds tackle or guard and

650
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Speaker 5: that can run four sevens and four to fives, that

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Speaker 5: bench press five hundred pounds like it's a two pick

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Speaker 5: and that you're just you're just one two pick away

653
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Speaker 5: from me murdering. And I think that's the beauty of

654
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Speaker 5: watching him. The NFL makes you learn technique and once

655
00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:29,400
Speaker 5: what we saw the last couple of growth spurts of

656
00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:31,760
Speaker 5: him is learning technique and how to do his job

657
00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:34,560
Speaker 5: well with without without having to put himself in a

658
00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:36,479
Speaker 5: bad position or the defense in a bad position.

659
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Speaker 3: X T's got a great person to learn from in

660
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Speaker 3: that outside linebackers room and veteran Josh Swt. Your big

661
00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:45,720
Speaker 3: ticket item and free agency haven't seen much of Sweat.

662
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Speaker 3: I don't think we need to. We'll wait until week one,

663
00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:52,440
Speaker 3: but yes, a dominant hash rusher. Let's go back to

664
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Speaker 3: training camp. On the Day Pash podcast, GM Monti Austin

665
00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:58,400
Speaker 3: Ford talking about Sweat.

666
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Speaker 8: The way he sets the edge in the run game,

667
00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:02,880
Speaker 8: it's really impressive. And then you know his ability to

668
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:06,280
Speaker 8: affect a passer. Sweaty knows how to rush and he's

669
00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:08,920
Speaker 8: got a varied arsenal that he can threaten tackles with.

670
00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:11,400
Speaker 8: You know, he's got quickness, he can bend, and then

671
00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:14,120
Speaker 8: he's got speed to power that is really his hallmark.

672
00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:16,520
Speaker 8: And he uses his length really well. And so we

673
00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:18,560
Speaker 8: got a player that we think can help us on

674
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Speaker 8: all three downs and we're excited to get him out.

675
00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:23,080
Speaker 8: He's comes from a winning program and he has some

676
00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:25,840
Speaker 8: familiarity with our coaching staff, and so when we had

677
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Speaker 8: the opportunity to add him, we were excited to do so.

678
00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:31,320
Speaker 3: We saw what's what was able to do last season

679
00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:33,600
Speaker 3: with the Eagles probably should.

680
00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:35,040
Speaker 4: Have been the Super Bowl MVP.

681
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Speaker 3: And now you've got someone that, at least I think

682
00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:41,880
Speaker 3: Paul might be your best pass rusher, at least on paper,

683
00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:43,240
Speaker 3: since Chandler Jones.

684
00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:46,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, And it was the same thing when Chandler Jones arrived.

685
00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:48,400
Speaker 4: The question became, all right, what happens to your defense

686
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:51,480
Speaker 4: when you go from having sixteen guys with at least

687
00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:54,160
Speaker 4: one sack a piece the one guy was sixteen sacks

688
00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:57,960
Speaker 4: and Chandler was that dude obviously had a seventeen or

689
00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:02,080
Speaker 4: nineteen sacks season, and every posing offensive coordinator would start

690
00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:04,440
Speaker 4: their game plan, how am I stopping that guy off

691
00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:06,760
Speaker 4: the edge? Josh Sweat based on what we saw in

692
00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:08,840
Speaker 4: the Super Bowl? Is that guy? And I know there's

693
00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:10,480
Speaker 4: a lot of there's a narrative out there. Well, he

694
00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:12,640
Speaker 4: was up and down with the Eagles. Two things. One,

695
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:16,120
Speaker 4: the Eagles front was absolutely loaded, so he wasn't a constant.

696
00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:17,960
Speaker 4: I think he's gonna get more snaps, more reps for

697
00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:20,880
Speaker 4: the Cardinals. Number Two, what did Vic Fangio do in

698
00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:24,840
Speaker 4: the Super Bowl? He set Josh Sweat free. And that's

699
00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:27,200
Speaker 4: what he told us upon arrival right here in this studio.

700
00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:30,120
Speaker 4: And that's what Jonathan Gannon did when he was a

701
00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:33,200
Speaker 4: pro Bowler had eleven sacks on a defense that had

702
00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:36,240
Speaker 4: seventy sacks that year. He had eleven and it's because

703
00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:38,400
Speaker 4: of the way Jonathan Gannon used him. That's how Big

704
00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:40,680
Speaker 4: Fangio used Josh Sweat in the Super Bowl.

705
00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:45,200
Speaker 3: Swet's most two productive seasons in Philadelphia the two years

706
00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:48,640
Speaker 3: Jonathan Gannon was defensive coordinator Nick Ralis was on staff.

707
00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:52,680
Speaker 3: So that certainly helps the familiarity, familiarity with the coaches,

708
00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:55,440
Speaker 3: the defense. And then I think it's gonna be a

709
00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:58,600
Speaker 3: little bit of a different season for Josh what because

710
00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:01,400
Speaker 3: he goes in knowing he's the guy, and I think

711
00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:02,640
Speaker 3: he's embraced that role.

712
00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:04,560
Speaker 4: That Okay, they put a lot.

713
00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:07,640
Speaker 3: Of effort, a lot of investments in me. I gotta produce,

714
00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:09,920
Speaker 3: but also that I gotta help everyone else in my

715
00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:11,160
Speaker 3: room and on the defense.

716
00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:13,560
Speaker 5: From every Cardinal fan I talked to about our defense,

717
00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:17,080
Speaker 5: they're excited about him, Like I'm in. I talked to

718
00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:18,920
Speaker 5: the LA man and he's like, man, I'm excited about

719
00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:21,160
Speaker 5: our defense. I'm happy with what the Cardinals did this

720
00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:23,960
Speaker 5: offseason going out and getting guys. But Sweat six five,

721
00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:25,920
Speaker 5: two hundred and sixty five pounds can run like a

722
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:30,200
Speaker 5: deer's He's a baby version of Chandler when Chanlan was younger,

723
00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:31,920
Speaker 5: and I just I'm excited to see what he's able

724
00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:33,920
Speaker 5: to do. But I agree he doesn't have to be

725
00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:36,120
Speaker 5: the man by himself. He also has some other guys

726
00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:38,239
Speaker 5: that let up with him. But the booty about that

727
00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:41,080
Speaker 5: moment is that he'll get more one on one opportunities,

728
00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:42,680
Speaker 5: and we know what he does at one on one.

729
00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:45,080
Speaker 4: You know, there was a moment. It was early in camp.

730
00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:47,280
Speaker 4: Buddha Baker met the media and he was talking about

731
00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:49,200
Speaker 4: something else and they got around to the defense as

732
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:51,560
Speaker 4: a hole and he paused and he said, I don't

733
00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:53,840
Speaker 4: think I've had a defensive front like this in my

734
00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:56,640
Speaker 4: career with the Cardinals. To me, that was one of

735
00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:59,960
Speaker 4: the most telling comments from any player in camp. Buddha Baker,

736
00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:02,520
Speaker 4: the seven time Pro Bowl or you could see him

737
00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:05,040
Speaker 4: the thought bubble over his head. What's possible if I

738
00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:08,880
Speaker 4: have a legit pass rush. That's what I'm really eager

739
00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:09,600
Speaker 4: to see this year.

740
00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:14,320
Speaker 3: More takeaways, more interceptions, more passes, defense, more highlight plays

741
00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:18,160
Speaker 3: for Buddha Baker that kind of been missing, but that's

742
00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:21,360
Speaker 3: just because offenses don't target Number three.

743
00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:23,840
Speaker 4: We'll see what happens this season. By the way, the

744
00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:25,400
Speaker 4: prop bet is five and a half five and a

745
00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:27,920
Speaker 4: half sacks against the Saints as a defense. We'll see

746
00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:30,000
Speaker 4: you gotta get there, Josh Sweden company. Got to make

747
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:33,200
Speaker 4: it happen. Calling your shot yep. Ahead of week one.

748
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Speaker 3: As we continue here on the Cardinals Red Sea reports,

749
00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:38,080
Speaker 3: we turned things over to the offense. Here on the

750
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Speaker 3: Arizona Cardinals radio network.

751
00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:47,719
Speaker 2: Orry with Tomes fires deep middle end zone for Harrison

752
00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:50,960
Speaker 2: and Harrison made the catch. Ben got his feet down,

753
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:53,839
Speaker 2: but the touchdown. Harrison caught it in the twenty ten

754
00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:57,200
Speaker 2: to ten. Harrison dies to the end zone. He's in

755
00:34:57,560 --> 00:35:03,480
Speaker 2: touchdown on by Harrison. It shows up touchdown Cardinal. Are

756
00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:07,640
Speaker 2: you not entertained, mate, left side of the end zone.

757
00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:12,719
Speaker 2: Harrison pulls it in touchdown Cardinals. Harrison laying out for it.

758
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:17,400
Speaker 2: He got it. Touchdown. What a catch, Marvin Harrison Junior.

759
00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:20,680
Speaker 2: Big time a fade right corner of the end zone, Harrison, Paul,

760
00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:23,560
Speaker 2: what a catch for a touchdown back of the end zone.

761
00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:27,640
Speaker 2: Harrison sid Harrison, it's a touchdown. Fade right side of

762
00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:31,160
Speaker 2: the end zone. I'm a funny to Marvin Harrison Junior. Touchdown.

763
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Speaker 9: Marvin Harrison Junior stabs the pig, pulls it down, taps

764
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Speaker 9: it off.

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Speaker 3: So I would never speak for you Paul. But I

766
00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:45,759
Speaker 3: am very anxious to hear Dave Hash once again on

767
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:48,640
Speaker 3: the airwaves on the Arizona Cardinals Radio Network week one,

768
00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:52,960
Speaker 3: considering that the burg Gang has who endured myself and

769
00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:58,080
Speaker 3: use and you for three preseason games. So again we're capable.

770
00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:00,080
Speaker 3: But there is no one quite like Dave.

771
00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:02,879
Speaker 4: The legend, just a top five play by play guy

772
00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:05,239
Speaker 4: on the planet. You know what was he He didn't

773
00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:07,400
Speaker 4: make it back in time for the Raiders finale. I

774
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:08,920
Speaker 4: mean he was in Doublin, Ireland, but it was a

775
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:10,880
Speaker 4: morning game. He couldn't He couldn't make it back in

776
00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:13,440
Speaker 4: time for kickoff of me. Come on now, So yeah,

777
00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:16,480
Speaker 4: Dave O's the Red Sea one. He big timed all

778
00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:19,000
Speaker 4: of a sudden, that one. No, honestly, a Q Shipley

779
00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:20,520
Speaker 4: had to go through us to get to day Hash.

780
00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:21,759
Speaker 4: You got earn it. You got to earn it in

781
00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:24,400
Speaker 4: training camp. You don't just automatically get to work with

782
00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:28,000
Speaker 4: the legends. So but look, speaking of legends, Frank Sanders

783
00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:30,200
Speaker 4: is here on the Red Sea, and I'm gonna just

784
00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:33,800
Speaker 4: go ahead and give the floor to the former receiver

785
00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:36,520
Speaker 4: because I want to hear what he thinks about Marvin

786
00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:40,479
Speaker 4: Harrison junior going into year two. What's your expectation would

787
00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:43,320
Speaker 4: you see in year one? How different could it look

788
00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:46,320
Speaker 4: here his second year. We know he looks different putting

789
00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:48,520
Speaker 4: on eleven pounds of muscle, and he says he feels

790
00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:51,080
Speaker 4: more explosive. How do you think that's going to translate

791
00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:52,200
Speaker 4: to the field.

792
00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:54,759
Speaker 5: The mental side, I think is I'm gonna say first,

793
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:57,200
Speaker 5: let's start mentally. I think it's definitely he's grown. Reflection

794
00:36:57,320 --> 00:37:00,080
Speaker 5: will definitely make that happen. This had to be a career. Oh,

795
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:02,480
Speaker 5: I'm talking about since he was probably seven years old,

796
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:04,239
Speaker 5: and he probably caught more balls as a kid from

797
00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:06,640
Speaker 5: his dad in the backyard. With sixty two catches, he's

798
00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:09,360
Speaker 5: probably had more from his dad. This this part, this

799
00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:11,440
Speaker 5: this guy, I look to see that the reflection has

800
00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:13,880
Speaker 5: to be more important to him. That he realized that

801
00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:15,960
Speaker 5: he could be better. He had to learn what the

802
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:17,640
Speaker 5: NFL is like. It's totally different than when you at

803
00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:20,239
Speaker 5: Ohio State with three three stud other receivers as five

804
00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:23,160
Speaker 5: stars and you guys out here just constantly dominating. There

805
00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:25,920
Speaker 5: are no Weaver states in the NFL during the weeks

806
00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:28,520
Speaker 5: at all. It's every There are no Vanderbilts either, This

807
00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:30,680
Speaker 5: is all grunt work, and you're playing against very good,

808
00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:34,040
Speaker 5: very good talented cornerbacks in the NFL. I have high

809
00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:37,200
Speaker 5: expectations between him and Kyler. The communication has to be better.

810
00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:41,080
Speaker 5: His ability to see what what what defenses are trying

811
00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:43,040
Speaker 5: to do against him. I think that's the number one

812
00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:45,359
Speaker 5: thing that receivers failed to do in the NFL, and

813
00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:48,799
Speaker 5: which is learn how defenses try to stop you when

814
00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:51,439
Speaker 5: you're when you're the when you're a receiver one, there's

815
00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:54,279
Speaker 5: a different coverage for you. When you're receiver two. Now

816
00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:56,959
Speaker 5: they bunch you up in like a cloud coverage, which

817
00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:59,040
Speaker 5: is like a four four to three defense something like that.

818
00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:01,759
Speaker 5: But I I have high expectations of him. He should

819
00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:03,759
Speaker 5: He should be easily with twelve hundred yards this year,

820
00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:06,640
Speaker 5: easily more than eight touchdowns than he had last year.

821
00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:09,240
Speaker 5: I expect that from him because I believe his ability.

822
00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:11,600
Speaker 5: What they did last year was the first part of

823
00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:14,120
Speaker 5: the season, he was just on the outside. Somewhere in

824
00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:15,560
Speaker 5: the middle of the season, they began to move him

825
00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:18,239
Speaker 5: in the slot, move him around, and then that opened

826
00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:20,520
Speaker 5: him up against you know, not the number one corner back,

827
00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:22,879
Speaker 5: but the number three, the diamond, the nickel, which gives

828
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:25,160
Speaker 5: you just a little bit more play, but also it

829
00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:27,440
Speaker 5: shows just his ability to be smart because now he

830
00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:30,000
Speaker 5: can read defenses from the inside and the outside, and

831
00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:32,960
Speaker 5: it gives them more gives them more more ability to

832
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:35,880
Speaker 5: catch the ball. So to me, I have high expectations

833
00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:37,919
Speaker 5: from him this year, but not just him, the entire

834
00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:41,719
Speaker 5: receiver room because last year wasn't special. Trey McBride dominated

835
00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:43,319
Speaker 5: and I'm proud of what he was able to do,

836
00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:46,279
Speaker 5: But more importantly, Marveson definitely has to step up and

837
00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:47,480
Speaker 5: be better than it was last year.

838
00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:50,200
Speaker 3: The weight Marvin added, we made a big deal of

839
00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:53,200
Speaker 3: how he looks, but there was a reason behind the

840
00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:57,440
Speaker 3: increase muscle because in the NFL you're gonna have to

841
00:38:57,440 --> 00:39:01,080
Speaker 3: fight off defensive backs a little bit more. The windows

842
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:05,040
Speaker 3: in which to throw are a lot tighter, and I

843
00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:08,000
Speaker 3: think that's something that not only Kyler and Marvin both

844
00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:10,840
Speaker 3: have to learn together, but Marvin realizing that in college

845
00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:14,680
Speaker 3: he was always open. In the NFL, you're never open,

846
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:17,920
Speaker 3: and how do you best put your body in position

847
00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:21,920
Speaker 3: shielding the defender and going after the football as opposed

848
00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:23,520
Speaker 3: to waiting for the football to come to you.

849
00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:26,200
Speaker 5: It's more physical in the NFL. Than it was in college.

850
00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:28,479
Speaker 5: Like literally, I could say I'd have two three yards

851
00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:30,000
Speaker 5: in front of you, Paul, and I can turn around.

852
00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:31,440
Speaker 5: I can run a button hook in front of you,

853
00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:33,520
Speaker 5: turn around, catch the ball and face you and still

854
00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:35,120
Speaker 5: have two or three yards before I make the move.

855
00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:38,000
Speaker 5: In NFL, you gotta trust. That's why timing is so

856
00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:42,400
Speaker 5: important quarterbacks, trust and releasing the ball in windows that

857
00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:44,480
Speaker 5: no one sees but only you because you expect your

858
00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:46,719
Speaker 5: guy to be there. The physical side, what he put

859
00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:48,600
Speaker 5: on is gonna help him. Of course, it's easy to

860
00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:51,120
Speaker 5: put it on right now before a seventeen week season.

861
00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:53,239
Speaker 5: We know he'll lose some of it, but at'll turn

862
00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:55,880
Speaker 5: into speed for him because he'll have a better idea

863
00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:58,719
Speaker 5: of how teams are trying to go against him. It's physical.

864
00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:00,799
Speaker 5: He saw that last year that teams tried to take

865
00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:03,520
Speaker 5: him away. He got press Man more than probably more

866
00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:05,560
Speaker 5: than any other cornerback because he was a big receiver.

867
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Speaker 5: But I think the beauty of that is that he

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Speaker 5: learned from that, and so now that physical side makes

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Speaker 5: some physical I remember when David Boston came in at

870
00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:15,359
Speaker 5: sixty three, two hundred and fifteen pounds. The next year

871
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Speaker 5: he came back sixty three two hundred and sixty five pounds,

872
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Speaker 5: still running four to three. So they know how to

873
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Speaker 5: get bigaut Ohio State, but they also know how to

874
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Speaker 5: carry that weight. I'm looking forward to see him take

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Speaker 5: on defensive backs on what they try to do to him.

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Speaker 4: You know, Craig, we had a chance to talk to

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Speaker 4: Marvin every week of his rookie year at his locker,

878
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Speaker 4: and he's a great interview. He's highly intelligent. He was

879
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Speaker 4: really forthcoming with the media, and you came to realize, hey,

880
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Speaker 4: he's getting cornerback one every week, he's getting the best

881
00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:42,160
Speaker 4: of the best. Number two. He's getting a lot of

882
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Speaker 4: attention over the top because Cardinals didn't necessarily have a

883
00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:47,560
Speaker 4: wide receiver too who was a big time threat. And

884
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Speaker 4: then he is also the disguises that these NFL defensive

885
00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:54,799
Speaker 4: coordinators used that isn't as nearly as rampant in the

886
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Speaker 4: college game. And so there was a stat out there

887
00:40:57,080 --> 00:41:00,720
Speaker 4: where there were more uncatchable targets between Kyle and Marvin

888
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Speaker 4: Errison Junior then any of the receiver QB combo in

889
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Speaker 4: the league. I think a lot of that was they

890
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Speaker 4: weren't necessarily reading the coverage the same way. So to

891
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Speaker 4: Frank's point, I think that's going to improve this year.

892
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Speaker 5: Look's I'm smiling because of the chess match of the game.

893
00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:17,799
Speaker 5: Like it's just it's a beautiful thing. Like it really is.

894
00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:19,359
Speaker 5: When you go out and you know your receiver one

895
00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:21,600
Speaker 5: and they like, look, we're gonna take you away, and

896
00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:23,200
Speaker 5: you're trying to figure ot where's it coming from. A

897
00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:26,600
Speaker 5: D lineman from the inside jumps out. He's running towards

898
00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:28,640
Speaker 5: you like a bullet. He's not even looking at the quarter,

899
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Speaker 5: but he's running at you because if you come inside,

900
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Speaker 5: he's got you. Like I think that that's the beauty

901
00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:34,440
Speaker 5: of it, Like you don't see it in college like that,

902
00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:38,160
Speaker 5: because it's it's you. It's like coming from Ohio State,

903
00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:42,200
Speaker 5: it's nine five stars versus somebody else's three or four stars,

904
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:44,759
Speaker 5: and so you're just getting primarily his own coverages for

905
00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:47,160
Speaker 5: the most part. The NFL, it says, take the challenge.

906
00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:48,799
Speaker 5: He has to accept that challenge, and I think the

907
00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:50,920
Speaker 5: beauty of is that he will learn from that and

908
00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:53,719
Speaker 5: realize how teams are trying to take him away. And

909
00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:55,680
Speaker 5: but I'm excited for it because I want to see

910
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Speaker 5: that growth pattern takes place where he knows, like like

911
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Speaker 5: then he becomes that.

912
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Speaker 3: It has been the number one talking point this offseason

913
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Speaker 3: year two for Marvin Harrison Junior. How much better can

914
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Speaker 3: he be? How much more comfortable is he? Here's Trey

915
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Speaker 3: McBride on Marvin Harrison Junior.

916
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Speaker 9: Yeah, I think so. You know, as a rookie, you

917
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Speaker 9: come in, your eyes are wide, you're trying of figuring

918
00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:18,919
Speaker 9: it all out, trying to, you know, find your place

919
00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:21,680
Speaker 9: in this league, and every week's different. And now he's

920
00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:23,720
Speaker 9: got a whole year under his belt. He knows exactly

921
00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:26,880
Speaker 9: what we expect of him, what you know, he's expected

922
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Speaker 9: to do in his role. And I think he's just

923
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Speaker 9: going to continue to get better every single year, every

924
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Speaker 9: single day. And obviously he's a fourth overall pick. Man,

925
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Speaker 9: He's a guy who's, you know, got a ton of talent,

926
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Speaker 9: a ton of upside, and I'm just excited to see

927
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Speaker 9: him continue to get better, continue to grow. And I

928
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Speaker 9: love playing with him, man, he's a stuff.

929
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Speaker 3: Having a more consistent wide receiver too on the opposite side,

930
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Speaker 3: whether that's Michael Wilson or z A Jones, certainly can help.

931
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Speaker 3: But Frank, what kind of tied in like a Trey McBride,

932
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Speaker 3: who elevated his own game last season. Now all of

933
00:42:58,040 --> 00:43:00,960
Speaker 3: a sudden, maybe it's not the same second wide receiver

934
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Speaker 3: that's drawing attention, but the tied end. What can that

935
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Speaker 3: do for the ex receiver Trey McBride.

936
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Speaker 5: I mean, what he did last year, he exposed a

937
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Speaker 5: lot of defenses, but he exposed something for the Amazon,

938
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Speaker 5: the Cardinals that hadn't been seen in a long time.

939
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Speaker 5: I mean, the beauty of what Trey was able to

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Speaker 5: do is I'll piggy and say the one thing that

941
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Speaker 5: hurt Marvin that didn't hurt Trade was the year before

942
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Speaker 5: he had Zach Hurtz. He had a veteran person to

943
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Speaker 5: be there to teach him how to be a tight end,

944
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Speaker 5: how to go out and how to read defenses, how

945
00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:28,080
Speaker 5: to set yourself up, how to run routes and go

946
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Speaker 5: about your business. Marvin didn't get that. When I got here,

947
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Speaker 5: I had Rob Moore, which was my blessing, and I

948
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Speaker 5: had Anthony Edwards, which was my blessings when I got him.

949
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Speaker 5: So I didn't have to be the man. I just

950
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Speaker 5: had to learn from those guys and then go out

951
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Speaker 5: and play well. Marvin didn't get that. I expect. I

952
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Speaker 5: expect to see what Trey brings to the table.

953
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Speaker 2: Man.

954
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Speaker 5: He is the neutralize of every defense. He's going to

955
00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:48,200
Speaker 5: open up our running game. He's going to make our

956
00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:51,799
Speaker 5: passing game that much better. Drew's learned. Drew Drew figured out, hey,

957
00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:54,040
Speaker 5: we got a guy. We got a guy that can

958
00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:55,719
Speaker 5: go out and make plays, not just in practice, but

959
00:43:55,760 --> 00:43:56,959
Speaker 5: he can go out and do it in the game.

960
00:43:57,239 --> 00:43:59,520
Speaker 5: And teams started paying attention. You want a thousand plus

961
00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:03,080
Speaker 5: sharp receive from my tight end position from Arizona Cardinals, Like,

962
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Speaker 5: that's that's special. And then and then you found you

963
00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:08,759
Speaker 5: found some communication and some some commonality between Kyler that

964
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Speaker 5: made Kyler feel better about himself. So we always knew

965
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Speaker 5: we had to out. No defense can begin to set

966
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Speaker 5: the set, the set set set, what set their intentions

967
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Speaker 5: against you when you have a tight end that can

968
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Speaker 5: go ok that is versatiles such as what trade does.

969
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Speaker 5: They might have argued and said he wasn't they boot

970
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Speaker 5: him on draft day, but they're not blowing him now.

971
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Speaker 5: And I'm proud of what he's been able to do

972
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Speaker 5: in the NFL.

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Speaker 4: I mean, if Marvin Harrison Junior and Kyler can get

974
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Speaker 4: a fraction of the chemistry that exists between Kyler and

975
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Speaker 4: Trey McBride, right, I mean look out.

976
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Speaker 3: Well said by the way, Frank, this was a lot

977
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Speaker 3: of fun. You're welcome back at any time.

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Speaker 5: Thank you for having me. Man, this is awesome you

979
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Speaker 5: get to hang around Paul Man and Craig.

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Speaker 4: I thought he was here. I thought he was here

981
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Speaker 4: just for the new uniform. You sure that, I know,

982
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Speaker 4: not for us, Craig. You's here from the new uniform.

983
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Speaker 4: That's why he could be it.

984
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Speaker 3: Maybe we'll have to try to talk him back into

985
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Speaker 3: the right and we'll have to entice him. Yes, special

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Speaker 3: thanks everyone behind the scenes. Our executive producer you Mama Hunter,

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Speaker 3: Associate producer Cody Fincher, Technical director Ryan Sacora. From Frank Sanders,

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Speaker 3: Paul Calvic, I'm Craig Realer. We will talk to you

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