1 00:00:00,680 --> 00:00:03,520 Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox 2 00:00:03,560 --> 00:00:07,640 Speaker 1: Sports Radio. Welcome to the program, Dan and the Danas 3 00:00:07,680 --> 00:00:12,600 Speaker 1: Dan Patrick Show. Running down the cities that hate hate you. Mclovin. Well, 4 00:00:12,600 --> 00:00:15,880 Speaker 1: there's that Buffalo incident from fourteen that was I was 5 00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:19,479 Speaker 1: taken out of context. Okay, the entire state of Utah 6 00:00:19,480 --> 00:00:23,040 Speaker 1: hate you. Yeah, yeah, Detroit. Are we leaving out Anny? 7 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:25,799 Speaker 1: I'm sorry I fell asleep when you were talking about 8 00:00:25,840 --> 00:00:31,200 Speaker 1: Utah and the Jazz. The Nuggets fans aren't happy because 9 00:00:31,200 --> 00:00:35,280 Speaker 1: I said, joke. It shouldn't be MVP. See. I picked 10 00:00:35,320 --> 00:00:39,800 Speaker 1: fan bases who are not like traditionally mean and angry. Okay, 11 00:00:40,120 --> 00:00:42,479 Speaker 1: like I'm not going after like the Boston fan or 12 00:00:43,159 --> 00:00:47,360 Speaker 1: the LA fan. Don't mess with the Jazz fans. Oh, 13 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:50,839 Speaker 1: come on, they are so nice, the Jazz fans. Welcome 14 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:53,199 Speaker 1: to the program. As you can tell already in progress. 15 00:00:53,200 --> 00:00:56,160 Speaker 1: It's our two on this Friday. It's a trigger meat Friday. 16 00:00:56,240 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 1: We got them fired up there and coming up, we'll 17 00:00:59,800 --> 00:01:03,560 Speaker 1: talk to the great writer, right Thompson of ESPN. He 18 00:01:03,840 --> 00:01:06,800 Speaker 1: had he said so many great profiles, you know, I 19 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:08,720 Speaker 1: want to talk to him about Urban Meyer. He did 20 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:13,640 Speaker 1: a profile in his book. He profiled Michael Jordan. He 21 00:01:13,800 --> 00:01:18,640 Speaker 1: just somehow gets in like if he was in your house, 22 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:22,240 Speaker 1: he would somehow get in between the cushions. Like that's 23 00:01:22,280 --> 00:01:26,040 Speaker 1: just how he is when he writes. And I wanted 24 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:28,360 Speaker 1: to talk to him about Bob Bafford. He covers horse 25 00:01:28,440 --> 00:01:30,760 Speaker 1: racing as well for the mother Ship, and he had 26 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:33,200 Speaker 1: some strong things to say about Bob Bafford, who the 27 00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:35,560 Speaker 1: Hall of Fame trainer, got himself in this situation with 28 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:38,959 Speaker 1: Medina's spirit. And we'll talk to Right Thompson about that 29 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:42,280 Speaker 1: and Urban Meyer coming up. Heading down the stretch of 30 00:01:42,280 --> 00:01:46,400 Speaker 1: the NBA season, we normally talk about teams jockeying for seating, 31 00:01:46,440 --> 00:01:49,080 Speaker 1: but for some reason, nobody seems to care about it 32 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:51,800 Speaker 1: this season. The Lakers look like they will be in 33 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:54,840 Speaker 1: the play in tournament, but people aren't betting against them 34 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:59,080 Speaker 1: even if they're seated at seven or eight. Is there 35 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 1: a difference between number one seeded Utah and teams like 36 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:05,920 Speaker 1: the Nuggets or Clippers the seventy six ers number one 37 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:08,480 Speaker 1: seed in the East, most people consider the Nets the favorites, 38 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:11,160 Speaker 1: especially after the Bucks were the top seed the last 39 00:02:11,160 --> 00:02:14,280 Speaker 1: two seasons and didn't make it to the conference finals. 40 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:17,040 Speaker 1: Home court advantage is important. I have to do is 41 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:19,800 Speaker 1: win one game and then you take away home court advantage. 42 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:24,320 Speaker 1: But you know, is it there smaller crowds? Is it 43 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:27,560 Speaker 1: about parody? You know, the Warriors clear cut favorites a 44 00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:30,640 Speaker 1: couple of years ago, but even the super teams have 45 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:35,520 Speaker 1: real questions surrounding them. So if your team is hoping 46 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:38,240 Speaker 1: to get a better seed, I wouldn't lose sleepover it, 47 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:41,160 Speaker 1: because once the playoffs start, it seems like it's going 48 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:44,120 Speaker 1: to be chaotic from start to finish. Here and what 49 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:49,160 Speaker 1: happened last night, you know, the Blazers losing the controversial 50 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:52,480 Speaker 1: finish against the Suns. So if the Lakers win both games, 51 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:55,640 Speaker 1: they're at the Pacers, at the Pelicans, the Blazers lose 52 00:02:55,720 --> 00:02:58,480 Speaker 1: their remaining game to Denver, the Lakers of the number 53 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:01,760 Speaker 1: six seed, then they have avoid that play in tournament. 54 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:04,160 Speaker 1: By the way, the play in tournament, sponsored by State 55 00:03:04,160 --> 00:03:09,200 Speaker 1: Farm Blazers hosts the Nuggets. Then on Sunday night, now 56 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:13,119 Speaker 1: the seasons on the line for the Blazers and they 57 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:16,880 Speaker 1: can avoid, you know, getting into that play in game. 58 00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:19,600 Speaker 1: They got to beat the Nuggets, but Denver still us 59 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:22,280 Speaker 1: a chance to jump up to number three. So Denver 60 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:26,120 Speaker 1: should be playing whoever is healthy to win that game 61 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:28,600 Speaker 1: at sort of the drama here, and this is what 62 00:03:28,639 --> 00:03:33,080 Speaker 1: the NBA wanted. Players may not like it, but as 63 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 1: a fan we have a little bit more intrigue and 64 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:40,040 Speaker 1: we wanted these games down the stretch, final week or 65 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:42,560 Speaker 1: so to mean something, and they certainly do. They might 66 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:48,560 Speaker 1: mean too much, but they do mean something. And the 67 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:54,200 Speaker 1: owners make money here. The networks make money. Players don't. 68 00:03:54,320 --> 00:03:58,480 Speaker 1: Players don't get money from the playoffs. They'll get bonuses. 69 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:01,480 Speaker 1: But I don't think this is going away anytime soon. 70 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:06,680 Speaker 1: Play in tournament. I don't like it with the NCAA 71 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 1: tournament March Madness, but you know, UCLA needed that to 72 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:16,039 Speaker 1: get in to begin their run. We've had that before 73 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:19,160 Speaker 1: a couple of times with a play in a team 74 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:21,800 Speaker 1: that was in the play in games eight seven seven 75 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:24,120 Speaker 1: three D P Show email address DP at dan Patrick 76 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:26,680 Speaker 1: dot com, Twitter handle at DP show. The Triple Crown 77 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:30,919 Speaker 1: continues at Pimlico the Preakness Saturday at five Eastern on 78 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:33,480 Speaker 1: NBC mclovin. What do you have for me? Okay? So 79 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:35,640 Speaker 1: the first hour was which game would you want to go? 80 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:38,120 Speaker 1: To the Cowboys Bucks in Tampa or at Bucks Patriots 81 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:41,039 Speaker 1: in New England. Fifty two want to go to the 82 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:44,719 Speaker 1: Tom Brady returns to Foxborough. So it's pretty close. This 83 00:04:44,839 --> 00:04:47,800 Speaker 1: is going to be the highest price ticket this year 84 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:51,080 Speaker 1: in the NFL. Oh yeah, regular season. We want to 85 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:53,680 Speaker 1: switch a pole. Paul do the honors. We have a 86 00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:58,400 Speaker 1: horse racing Bob Bafford question, Oh, if you're okay. The 87 00:04:58,440 --> 00:05:01,039 Speaker 1: poll question is based off Bob Effort and his excuse 88 00:05:01,120 --> 00:05:04,839 Speaker 1: from a Dinah Spirits Medina spirit. There are times during 89 00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:07,120 Speaker 1: the day during the show when it's over, when I'll 90 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:10,200 Speaker 1: walk by Pauli's desk and He'll be acting like he's 91 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:16,640 Speaker 1: a horse race and I don't say anything, and he 92 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:18,680 Speaker 1: doesn't say anything. It's like a tick. Yeah, he just 93 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:21,760 Speaker 1: he's doing it. I just keep walking and you just 94 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:26,039 Speaker 1: go okay, alright, alright, uh yeah, you were saying. So 95 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:29,680 Speaker 1: Baffort's excuse is that they use this ointment on a 96 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:32,279 Speaker 1: rash of the horse and the drug got in system. 97 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:35,520 Speaker 1: And it's not necessarily a performance answer. It's it's a mistake. 98 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:38,360 Speaker 1: It was an incompetence. It was sappy, sloppy is yeah. 99 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:40,040 Speaker 1: They're not saying cheating, and I think a lot of 100 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:42,800 Speaker 1: people believe that it was unintentional. Would you rather be 101 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:45,799 Speaker 1: considered is the poll question. Would you rather be considered 102 00:05:46,520 --> 00:05:52,640 Speaker 1: a cheater or incompetent slash reckless? Would you rather be 103 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:56,880 Speaker 1: considered a cheater incompetent slash reckless? If you believe that 104 00:05:57,200 --> 00:06:04,240 Speaker 1: either way on this situation or any situation. Wow, If 105 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:06,760 Speaker 1: I'm the trainer, a Hall of Fame trainer, and it 106 00:06:06,760 --> 00:06:09,400 Speaker 1: feels like I don't I don't keep an eye on 107 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:13,400 Speaker 1: my horses, but they're doing very well. They're making a 108 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:15,839 Speaker 1: lot of people a lot of money, those horses. Yeah, 109 00:06:15,880 --> 00:06:18,560 Speaker 1: but it shouldn't have taken Bob Baffort that long to 110 00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:21,680 Speaker 1: go from Hey, I don't know how this happened, but 111 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:24,600 Speaker 1: I'm going to start asking questions of my staff. I'm 112 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:28,240 Speaker 1: asking that of him. Bob, did you ask people on 113 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:33,640 Speaker 1: your staff? No, we're investigating. I don't think he's up 114 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:37,280 Speaker 1: every morning with Medina's spirit, you know, with the stopwatch 115 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:39,599 Speaker 1: here like we would see in a movie. He's got 116 00:06:39,839 --> 00:06:42,640 Speaker 1: twenty horses, probably you know, he's out there at five 117 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:46,520 Speaker 1: thirty in the morning. Yeah, see the breath from the 118 00:06:46,560 --> 00:06:49,159 Speaker 1: horse when it's galloping, and he's out there and he's 119 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:52,599 Speaker 1: got the you know, the split times here. Yeah, but 120 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:55,000 Speaker 1: you could see where it's a lot better to be 121 00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:58,440 Speaker 1: known as a cheater in that industry than someone who's, yes, 122 00:06:58,880 --> 00:07:01,080 Speaker 1: not as hands on as you maybe you thought, yep, 123 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 1: I guess given those circumstances, I'd rather be known as 124 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:09,280 Speaker 1: a cheater than I would somebody who has no idea 125 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:13,920 Speaker 1: what's going on behind the scenes. I mean it's horse racing, right, yeah, yeah, yes, 126 00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:17,360 Speaker 1: yes McClement. But what if it's like willful incompetence like 127 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:19,800 Speaker 1: you you want maybe a guy who is not going 128 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:22,280 Speaker 1: to pay attention, so you could even though this was 129 00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:26,120 Speaker 1: such a minor transgression, but maybe like he's playing incompetent 130 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:28,680 Speaker 1: in a way like, oh, I don't know what's going 131 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:29,960 Speaker 1: on here, I'm not going to look at what's going 132 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:33,640 Speaker 1: on in the stable. Is that possible he's pretending to 133 00:07:33,680 --> 00:07:36,560 Speaker 1: be incompetent. Well yeah, he's sort of like I'm not 134 00:07:36,600 --> 00:07:38,760 Speaker 1: going to watch that horse so closely. So if one 135 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 1: of you guys want one of you I worked for me, 136 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:43,160 Speaker 1: want's it going in cheat just like the mafia, like 137 00:07:43,320 --> 00:07:45,520 Speaker 1: keeping a few layers away from him? But wait a minute, 138 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:48,560 Speaker 1: this is your Derby horse. Wouldn't you know what's going 139 00:07:48,600 --> 00:07:51,440 Speaker 1: on with your Derby horse. Yeah, yeah, but I think 140 00:07:51,440 --> 00:07:53,880 Speaker 1: that maybe you could be like a little bit like 141 00:07:53,920 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 1: I don't want to watch everything so closely. Okay, but 142 00:07:57,200 --> 00:08:01,360 Speaker 1: when you know that the horse has tested positive for 143 00:08:01,440 --> 00:08:06,720 Speaker 1: these you know, small amounts, okay, don't you start with 144 00:08:06,760 --> 00:08:11,000 Speaker 1: the veterinarian like I, Hey, how did that cream get 145 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:13,480 Speaker 1: on this horse? Or why is it still in its system? 146 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:17,600 Speaker 1: Let me ask the veterinarian, Hey, when did you administer that? 147 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:23,960 Speaker 1: Did you administer this? That's what I don't understand. And 148 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:26,600 Speaker 1: he said during the interview with me that he was 149 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:33,120 Speaker 1: sloppy when he was younger. It feels like he's sloppy now. Yeah. 150 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:35,640 Speaker 1: Let's take it to another sport. If the Houston Astros 151 00:08:35,640 --> 00:08:38,200 Speaker 1: with their cheating scandal in seventeen and other years by 152 00:08:38,200 --> 00:08:40,920 Speaker 1: the way, yes, if they were let's say the accusation 153 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:44,760 Speaker 1: was a second level team trainer doctor gave all the 154 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:48,400 Speaker 1: players some enhancement drug that he thought was legal and 155 00:08:48,559 --> 00:08:50,960 Speaker 1: was not legal. And let's say six or seven players 156 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:54,240 Speaker 1: got busted for peds. But the doctor Camistead looked, this 157 00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:56,640 Speaker 1: is my fault. I accidentally gave these guys a bunch 158 00:08:56,640 --> 00:08:59,240 Speaker 1: of stuff they shouldn't have used. Would that be better 159 00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:04,080 Speaker 1: or worse an organized cheating scandal for stealing signs with technology, 160 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:08,360 Speaker 1: which would be better or worse. Of cheating or incompetence 161 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:11,480 Speaker 1: that cause a positive test. Well, I would rather have 162 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:15,080 Speaker 1: the trainer who admits that he administered this and he 163 00:09:15,160 --> 00:09:19,160 Speaker 1: takes the heat, whereas the players should have taken the heat. 164 00:09:19,520 --> 00:09:24,400 Speaker 1: They're the ones that did cheat and benefited from it. Yes, 165 00:09:24,920 --> 00:09:28,040 Speaker 1: in general, I rather play the whether it's active, whether 166 00:09:28,040 --> 00:09:30,080 Speaker 1: it's honest or not. The oop's car they screwed up, 167 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:33,840 Speaker 1: even if it falls under the incompetent you know windows 168 00:09:33,840 --> 00:09:36,240 Speaker 1: opposed to that you would knowingly cheated. You tried to 169 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:38,160 Speaker 1: cheat the game with a sport to try to get 170 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:40,480 Speaker 1: away with something. I think that's the lesser the two 171 00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:42,360 Speaker 1: evils is to be I screwed up. I should have 172 00:09:42,400 --> 00:09:45,800 Speaker 1: known better. Yes, but then he just I mean that 173 00:09:45,880 --> 00:09:48,360 Speaker 1: all sounds good except that when you just go back 174 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:50,400 Speaker 1: in the calendar year and he's like, oh, you got 175 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:56,000 Speaker 1: caught and you know, fine for using the exact same thing. Yeah, 176 00:09:56,040 --> 00:09:58,400 Speaker 1: when he's had horses that have tested positive for a 177 00:09:58,440 --> 00:10:00,600 Speaker 1: variety of things. Here, it's not like because it could 178 00:10:00,679 --> 00:10:02,599 Speaker 1: be like, oh this snuck up on me, or the 179 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:07,000 Speaker 1: vet that we're using or like our teen veterinarian doesn't know. 180 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:12,439 Speaker 1: So that's the pole question you're gonna go with mclum. Yeah, 181 00:10:12,440 --> 00:10:15,719 Speaker 1: would you rather be considered a cheater or incompetent? Thank you? 182 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:21,880 Speaker 1: He's getting sore a Polly step dancing career. I think 183 00:10:21,880 --> 00:10:23,880 Speaker 1: this is where this comes from. Which is the most 184 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:27,200 Speaker 1: impressive dan At accomplishment by far that I think we 185 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:29,080 Speaker 1: can all agree on that. I think we were in 186 00:10:29,120 --> 00:10:32,880 Speaker 1: New Orleans and we had the wood floor the basketball 187 00:10:32,920 --> 00:10:37,320 Speaker 1: floor at the Super Bowl and Polly started step dancing. 188 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:40,480 Speaker 1: I did not know, and I've known Pauli a long time. 189 00:10:40,840 --> 00:10:42,720 Speaker 1: I did not know in college he was part of 190 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:46,559 Speaker 1: a step dancing team. That you're kind of making it 191 00:10:46,559 --> 00:10:48,800 Speaker 1: a little bit more than it actually was. I believe 192 00:10:48,840 --> 00:10:52,520 Speaker 1: it's a troop dan Oh step dancing. True. I went 193 00:10:52,559 --> 00:10:55,920 Speaker 1: the troop toward around the South. I was a member 194 00:10:55,920 --> 00:10:59,120 Speaker 1: of the Alphata makeup fraternity at Southerlmino University. Yeah, and 195 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:00,679 Speaker 1: we knew a couple of eyes and one of the 196 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:02,640 Speaker 1: African American fraternities that he came over and said, Hey, 197 00:11:02,679 --> 00:11:05,120 Speaker 1: would you guys like to be in the step contest 198 00:11:05,160 --> 00:11:08,520 Speaker 1: on campus? And he spent about a week teaching us 199 00:11:08,520 --> 00:11:11,040 Speaker 1: how to do the most basic step you've ever seen ever. 200 00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:13,600 Speaker 1: But let me tell you something. We walked into that room. 201 00:11:13,640 --> 00:11:18,240 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it was a hell of a reaction. Yeah yeah, 202 00:11:18,920 --> 00:11:24,600 Speaker 1: that's good. It was fun. I was impressed, like it 203 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:26,560 Speaker 1: was kind of weird. But but you know what, our 204 00:11:27,040 --> 00:11:30,480 Speaker 1: levels of being impressed are so low with each other. 205 00:11:30,520 --> 00:11:32,839 Speaker 1: I think we're like, wow, do you like Seaton made 206 00:11:32,840 --> 00:11:36,360 Speaker 1: a left handed layup, and then you're going, yeah, okay, 207 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:43,280 Speaker 1: Paulie did some dance routine. Look at mclove and lifting weights. Yeah. Yeah. 208 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:45,200 Speaker 1: But the thing about that none of us can dance, 209 00:11:45,240 --> 00:11:47,719 Speaker 1: and we all want to. Like Seaton summed up, Bess 210 00:11:47,720 --> 00:11:49,880 Speaker 1: said he'd rather be justin Timberlake as a dancer, that 211 00:11:49,960 --> 00:11:53,359 Speaker 1: a professional like. The ability to dance is so elusive 212 00:11:53,400 --> 00:11:57,920 Speaker 1: and so important in life. Yeah yeah, Seaton, Yeah yeah, 213 00:11:57,960 --> 00:12:00,840 Speaker 1: it's just day to day. The ability to dance would 214 00:12:00,880 --> 00:12:03,760 Speaker 1: come in handy a lot more than certain other skills. 215 00:12:04,080 --> 00:12:08,440 Speaker 1: I'd rather learn guitar or piano than I would dance. Nah. Oh, man, 216 00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:15,040 Speaker 1: if you're single and you got a guitar, you don't 217 00:12:15,040 --> 00:12:17,000 Speaker 1: have to be good looking. You can play the accush. 218 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:18,599 Speaker 1: I don't think I picked up the guitar because I 219 00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:22,240 Speaker 1: couldn't dance. Yes, but if you're at a party, if 220 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:24,000 Speaker 1: you're at a club, you don't have your guitar, and 221 00:12:24,040 --> 00:12:26,480 Speaker 1: you can get out on the floor in New York 222 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:29,360 Speaker 1: City at the Mud Club and early eighties and show 223 00:12:29,400 --> 00:12:32,440 Speaker 1: your moves off. You can't plout an acoustic guitar. It 224 00:12:32,520 --> 00:12:35,280 Speaker 1: feels like you could bring your guitar. I mean at 225 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:38,160 Speaker 1: that when you have it slung over your shoulder. Yeah, 226 00:12:38,160 --> 00:12:40,719 Speaker 1: that's a good look here man. You're like, oh, hey, man, 227 00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:43,680 Speaker 1: headed to the gig. Yeah, yo, it's two o clock 228 00:12:43,760 --> 00:12:45,920 Speaker 1: on a Tuesday. Yeah, yeah, pull. There's a difference over 229 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:48,440 Speaker 1: between dancing like at a club or dancing with a girl, 230 00:12:48,720 --> 00:12:51,120 Speaker 1: or being able to dance like two stepping or step 231 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:53,640 Speaker 1: dancing where it's like an organized you know, you're learning 232 00:12:53,640 --> 00:12:56,360 Speaker 1: a routine. The ability to not be a bad dancer 233 00:12:56,600 --> 00:12:58,520 Speaker 1: is it's more important to be not bad when you're 234 00:12:58,559 --> 00:13:00,560 Speaker 1: dancing out with a girl. But I can do like 235 00:13:00,640 --> 00:13:03,360 Speaker 1: Cajun two step, and I can do the walls. Yeah, 236 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:05,600 Speaker 1: like I can do a couple of those things. But 237 00:13:05,640 --> 00:13:07,960 Speaker 1: if you said, hey, go out on the dance floor 238 00:13:08,040 --> 00:13:12,480 Speaker 1: and there's there's separation between you and your wife, it 239 00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:15,840 Speaker 1: feels like she's so far away, like and I would 240 00:13:15,840 --> 00:13:18,040 Speaker 1: always say, you know, get a little closer here, like 241 00:13:18,640 --> 00:13:21,880 Speaker 1: don't go if you're if you're dancing to like, hey, 242 00:13:21,920 --> 00:13:25,920 Speaker 1: here's a cool in the gang Casey and the Sunshine Band, 243 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:29,000 Speaker 1: here's Earth Went in Fire And I'm like, oh my god. 244 00:13:29,720 --> 00:13:31,840 Speaker 1: And there's always somebody wants to drag you out on 245 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:35,160 Speaker 1: the dance floor. And that's the word. You can all 246 00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:38,959 Speaker 1: you can forever avoid that public. Like remember when you 247 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:41,120 Speaker 1: were a kid in school and you just you kept 248 00:13:41,160 --> 00:13:43,120 Speaker 1: your eyes down so your teacher wouldn't call on you. 249 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:44,320 Speaker 1: And you're like, oh, I don't call him. You don't 250 00:13:44,320 --> 00:13:45,960 Speaker 1: call on that whole like, hey, come on, let's go 251 00:13:46,040 --> 00:13:49,640 Speaker 1: dance thing. It's all, it's all eliminated now, yes, or 252 00:13:49,679 --> 00:13:52,120 Speaker 1: the worst is everyone come out for the slow dancing 253 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:54,080 Speaker 1: the way this happens everywhere. Yeah, you're dancing that all 254 00:13:54,120 --> 00:13:56,960 Speaker 1: of a sudden, all right, and then September comes up 255 00:13:57,000 --> 00:13:59,120 Speaker 1: and your wife has starts jamming with your friends and 256 00:13:59,160 --> 00:14:03,360 Speaker 1: you're stuck down low bad good time. I'm gonna go 257 00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:07,680 Speaker 1: get a drink. Oh come on, stay yes time. Sometimes 258 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:09,240 Speaker 1: I think you're better off just going out there and 259 00:14:09,280 --> 00:14:10,920 Speaker 1: getting it over with to dance with your wife or 260 00:14:10,920 --> 00:14:13,280 Speaker 1: girlfriend and even if you look ridiculous, and this way, 261 00:14:13,320 --> 00:14:14,880 Speaker 1: you can sit the rest of the night. The worst 262 00:14:14,920 --> 00:14:17,040 Speaker 1: thing is when everyone's pointing at you and calling you 263 00:14:17,080 --> 00:14:19,080 Speaker 1: out to the dance floor, making a big thing of 264 00:14:19,120 --> 00:14:21,080 Speaker 1: it that you're the only one that's kind of hiding 265 00:14:21,080 --> 00:14:23,080 Speaker 1: in the back, not having good time, sitting there at 266 00:14:23,080 --> 00:14:25,240 Speaker 1: the table while everyone's up. Just do it, and not 267 00:14:25,360 --> 00:14:28,520 Speaker 1: to call attention to you. It's just abound confidence. It 268 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:32,680 Speaker 1: really is you. And I've got friends who I don't 269 00:14:32,680 --> 00:14:35,560 Speaker 1: think they can dance, but they think they can dance, 270 00:14:36,120 --> 00:14:39,800 Speaker 1: and they get out there and they're just confident. And 271 00:14:39,960 --> 00:14:42,680 Speaker 1: I get out there and I'm like, this song cannot 272 00:14:42,760 --> 00:14:45,720 Speaker 1: end quick enough. They cannot. Yeah, Paul, Well, I used 273 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:47,400 Speaker 1: to live on in Arizona and they go. I still 274 00:14:47,440 --> 00:14:49,200 Speaker 1: got to go to a lot of country bars. And 275 00:14:50,040 --> 00:14:53,640 Speaker 1: if you can two step pretty well, you can hang 276 00:14:53,680 --> 00:14:56,200 Speaker 1: out with a girl that's way above your paygrade. When 277 00:14:56,240 --> 00:15:00,960 Speaker 1: you do line dancing too, dancing, yeah, that's not really dancing. Palling, 278 00:15:01,080 --> 00:15:05,920 Speaker 1: it is line dancing. And that's just like like an orchids. 279 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:08,600 Speaker 1: That's like a little skit. Anything that you're told what 280 00:15:08,640 --> 00:15:10,960 Speaker 1: to do like, Okay, this is what you do it 281 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:13,160 Speaker 1: in this order? Yeah, and then it's okay. It doesn't 282 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:15,400 Speaker 1: feel like dance ah, because when I get on the 283 00:15:15,480 --> 00:15:19,000 Speaker 1: dance floor, I just let my body. I just want 284 00:15:19,040 --> 00:15:23,400 Speaker 1: to express myself. Who's stepping? You could score? Alex in Colorado? Alex, 285 00:15:23,480 --> 00:15:29,800 Speaker 1: what's on your mind this morning? Hey? How's it going? Hi? Alex? Hi? Um? 286 00:15:29,840 --> 00:15:32,640 Speaker 1: So basically you're like family. Now. I hear you in 287 00:15:32,640 --> 00:15:37,240 Speaker 1: the background every single morning. My husband's tried to convince 288 00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:40,720 Speaker 1: me to watch Ted Laugh though, because you liked it. Yes. 289 00:15:41,240 --> 00:15:44,000 Speaker 1: Uh so I was like, well, that's that's the wrong 290 00:15:44,080 --> 00:15:47,120 Speaker 1: expert for me to take on shows. Um, But it 291 00:15:47,280 --> 00:15:54,120 Speaker 1: turned out that your TV recommendations are amazing. Hello. Can 292 00:15:54,160 --> 00:15:57,400 Speaker 1: you not hear me? Yeah? No, I'm just saying yeah, 293 00:15:57,120 --> 00:16:05,040 Speaker 1: I know. I was like, Alex, I know what I'm doing. Hello, Hello, Hello, Hello. 294 00:16:06,400 --> 00:16:09,119 Speaker 1: Well it turned out to be great, so I recommended 295 00:16:09,160 --> 00:16:14,000 Speaker 1: it to other friends. But also, speaking of the best, 296 00:16:14,640 --> 00:16:19,040 Speaker 1: can you end this age old debate for us? My 297 00:16:19,160 --> 00:16:23,480 Speaker 1: husband and I disagree who is the best football player 298 00:16:23,720 --> 00:16:27,560 Speaker 1: of all times? Well, tell me who you think, and 299 00:16:27,600 --> 00:16:30,960 Speaker 1: then tell me who your husband thinks. Okay, that's great, 300 00:16:31,240 --> 00:16:34,480 Speaker 1: So I think tom Brady, and I actually think you 301 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:38,120 Speaker 1: really like him. You have this whole debate about whether 302 00:16:38,160 --> 00:16:41,640 Speaker 1: it was Tom Brady or his coach, and obviously it 303 00:16:41,720 --> 00:16:46,320 Speaker 1: was Tom Brady. And you know, I grew up as 304 00:16:46,360 --> 00:16:50,080 Speaker 1: a Patriots fan, That's how I was raised. I met 305 00:16:50,120 --> 00:16:54,760 Speaker 1: my husband and he's a Bengals fan. I switched and 306 00:16:54,840 --> 00:16:57,920 Speaker 1: I started wearing Bengals gear going to games. I even 307 00:16:57,920 --> 00:17:01,680 Speaker 1: wore a tale one time. Wait, who does your husband 308 00:17:01,720 --> 00:17:05,239 Speaker 1: think is the greatest football player? Well, I don't know. 309 00:17:06,600 --> 00:17:09,520 Speaker 1: Well you can't, I can't, I can't. That's gonna shade 310 00:17:09,560 --> 00:17:12,760 Speaker 1: your opinion and it might change your answer. No, it's no, 311 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:17,280 Speaker 1: it's not. You told me yours. So now it's Tom Brady. 312 00:17:17,320 --> 00:17:21,440 Speaker 1: And then your husband's favorite player of all time is Nope, Dan, 313 00:17:21,640 --> 00:17:25,320 Speaker 1: this is all you name the best football player of 314 00:17:25,359 --> 00:17:32,080 Speaker 1: all times? Now, are we talking about accomplishments or on 315 00:17:32,119 --> 00:17:34,680 Speaker 1: the field so like a resume, or is it just 316 00:17:34,760 --> 00:17:37,480 Speaker 1: that's the best football player I've ever seen? Because there 317 00:17:37,560 --> 00:17:40,480 Speaker 1: might be a difference there between Tom Brady is the 318 00:17:40,520 --> 00:17:45,440 Speaker 1: most accomplished, but is he the greatest football player? Ooh, 319 00:17:46,160 --> 00:17:50,040 Speaker 1: I don't know that. Okay, So who would you say, then, 320 00:17:50,800 --> 00:17:56,200 Speaker 1: um of all time? In the history. Well I and well, 321 00:17:56,200 --> 00:17:59,800 Speaker 1: thank you, Alex, and and good luck with your marriage. Um, 322 00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:05,720 Speaker 1: and you're you know TV viewing as well. Jim Brown 323 00:18:06,040 --> 00:18:09,800 Speaker 1: was somebody who just was what he did in nine years. 324 00:18:11,080 --> 00:18:13,399 Speaker 1: It almost looked like there was a grown up and 325 00:18:13,600 --> 00:18:19,560 Speaker 1: he was playing with kids. But that's in a different generation. 326 00:18:20,160 --> 00:18:23,879 Speaker 1: But in his generation, I just I never saw anybody 327 00:18:23,880 --> 00:18:28,119 Speaker 1: who was better than Jim Brown. I imagine your last year. 328 00:18:28,200 --> 00:18:30,680 Speaker 1: How many yards did he rush for? Eighteen hundred yards 329 00:18:30,800 --> 00:18:33,760 Speaker 1: his last year he led the NFL in rushing and 330 00:18:33,840 --> 00:18:37,240 Speaker 1: decided that he was going to go make movies. Yeah, Paul, 331 00:18:37,560 --> 00:18:40,600 Speaker 1: he led the NFL and rushing every season was in 332 00:18:40,600 --> 00:18:43,000 Speaker 1: the league except for one his final season in the pros. 333 00:18:43,280 --> 00:18:45,920 Speaker 1: It ran for sixteen hundred yards and seventeen touchdown. Yeah, 334 00:18:46,320 --> 00:18:49,480 Speaker 1: and then and then he walked away in fourteen games, Yes, 335 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:54,400 Speaker 1: he would have had two thousand yards before you know 336 00:18:54,440 --> 00:18:56,719 Speaker 1: it was because he was playing in fourteen. He had 337 00:18:56,720 --> 00:18:59,359 Speaker 1: fifteen hundred yards in a twelve game season early in 338 00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:02,000 Speaker 1: his career. Yeah. Yeah, see, I feel like you have 339 00:19:02,080 --> 00:19:05,760 Speaker 1: had Lawrence Taylor up real high. Yeah. Well that's one 340 00:19:05,800 --> 00:19:07,919 Speaker 1: of those that you see in person, and I had 341 00:19:08,520 --> 00:19:12,560 Speaker 1: never seen anybody play football like that that five year window, 342 00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:16,720 Speaker 1: and I was able to be there on the sidelines 343 00:19:17,080 --> 00:19:20,719 Speaker 1: for Giants games in four of those years. I just 344 00:19:20,800 --> 00:19:24,359 Speaker 1: never saw anybody. And I still maintain this. I saw 345 00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:30,080 Speaker 1: fear in Ken O'Brien's eyes in a preseason game because 346 00:19:30,080 --> 00:19:32,639 Speaker 1: of Lawrence Taylor. Now that might not be fair to 347 00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:36,320 Speaker 1: Ken O'Brien, the Jets quarterback, but where I was standing, 348 00:19:37,560 --> 00:19:42,520 Speaker 1: I saw fear and he just was different. You had 349 00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:46,479 Speaker 1: to know where he was. And Brady's accomplished more than 350 00:19:46,600 --> 00:19:50,359 Speaker 1: any anybody. But as far as that's a football player 351 00:19:50,760 --> 00:19:55,320 Speaker 1: what he does, Jim Brown would still be the guy, 352 00:19:55,400 --> 00:19:59,080 Speaker 1: but Lawrence Taylor is there as well. We'll take a break. 353 00:19:59,359 --> 00:20:03,160 Speaker 1: Phone calls, More phone calls coming up, and the great writer, 354 00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:06,760 Speaker 1: Right Thompson will join us coming up. Also Peter Schreger 355 00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:09,240 Speaker 1: on loan from the NFL Network will stop by as well. 356 00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:13,359 Speaker 1: Any more movement with Aaron Rodgers and you're starting to 357 00:20:13,400 --> 00:20:16,440 Speaker 1: hear more and more, but nothing attached to the Packers 358 00:20:16,480 --> 00:20:20,840 Speaker 1: and or Rogers here. And also Deshaun Watson. Not much 359 00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:24,040 Speaker 1: to report, And I think we're starting to get closer 360 00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:26,719 Speaker 1: to are we going to get some answers with Deshaun 361 00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:30,000 Speaker 1: Watson here sometime soon. In these civil lawsuits, those are 362 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:32,000 Speaker 1: a couple of topics that will have It's twenty one 363 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:33,920 Speaker 1: after the hour. We'll take a break. We're back after 364 00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:37,760 Speaker 1: this and the Dan Patrick Show. Friday is so great 365 00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:40,080 Speaker 1: because I know I'm not going to see Fritzie for 366 00:20:40,119 --> 00:20:42,920 Speaker 1: a few days, and then I always feel better. But 367 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:45,520 Speaker 1: I get to see that that Tregger grill. 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Thanks for listening to The Dan Patrick Show podcast. 384 00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:48,600 Speaker 1: Be sure to catch us live every weekday morning nine 385 00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:51,560 Speaker 1: until noon eastern six to nine Pacific on Fox Sports 386 00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:54,560 Speaker 1: Radio and you can find us on the iHeartRadio app 387 00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:58,399 Speaker 1: at FSR or stream us live on the Peacock app. 388 00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:02,280 Speaker 1: Waiting to with a great writer, Right Thompson, get a 389 00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:05,160 Speaker 1: couple of phone calls in here Jesse and Los Angeles. 390 00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:07,920 Speaker 1: Hey Jess, welcome back. What do you have for me today? 391 00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:13,399 Speaker 1: They adp have positively Friday by also congrat some the 392 00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:18,600 Speaker 1: Devil Eggs. Thank you our King's Baby. Thanks for twisting 393 00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:21,400 Speaker 1: the knife this morning. They're so bad at losing, there's 394 00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:24,520 Speaker 1: setting records for it now and only the Seattle Mariners 395 00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:28,280 Speaker 1: have a longer playoff drought in the four major American sports. 396 00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:31,280 Speaker 1: And I'll never forget the Dui tie pick over Steph 397 00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:33,520 Speaker 1: Curry every time Kurry at the three. It's painful. But 398 00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:37,400 Speaker 1: that top five Lakers list from yesterday got me thinking. 399 00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:40,080 Speaker 1: Top five Sports center anchors compared to the top five 400 00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:43,000 Speaker 1: Lakers of all time hear me out on this. You 401 00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:46,200 Speaker 1: got the General and Burman as Elgin and the logo. 402 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:50,679 Speaker 1: You got the great Tom Mews, who's vastly underrated as Kareem. 403 00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:54,200 Speaker 1: I got you Dan Patrick as Magic and Magic needs 404 00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:57,560 Speaker 1: is Larry Bird. So that's Oberman fitting Lee since they're 405 00:22:57,560 --> 00:22:59,760 Speaker 1: both going to the Basketball Hall of Fame together this weekend. 406 00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:02,719 Speaker 1: Can grats to the great Mike Wilburn. I got him 407 00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:06,560 Speaker 1: as Kobe. What do you think? Okay, thank you, thank you, 408 00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:13,240 Speaker 1: jess Um. Wilbon's not a Sports Center anchor, but thank you, jess. Yeah. 409 00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:16,160 Speaker 1: I don't want to talk about myself in any kind 410 00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:20,080 Speaker 1: of category like that, because that that's for others. Yeah, 411 00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:23,880 Speaker 1: I've seen the list, like Paulie, you and the rest 412 00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:25,800 Speaker 1: of the Danis can say great things about me, like 413 00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:29,360 Speaker 1: I'd prefer not to. Oh so open right now? Yeah yeah, 414 00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:31,800 Speaker 1: I'll hang up and listen. Yeah, go ahead, Yeah, yeah, 415 00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:34,119 Speaker 1: mclem I thought Byron Scott should have been higher than 416 00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:37,080 Speaker 1: Michael Cooper. I don't want to lose I mean, am 417 00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:39,399 Speaker 1: I the Byron Scott of Sports Center? An No? I 418 00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:41,879 Speaker 1: like you a good man bad. I thought Magic was 419 00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:44,119 Speaker 1: a good analogy for you, and I like Me's is Kareem. 420 00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:46,359 Speaker 1: That was good. Yes, you guys are kind of the 421 00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:49,439 Speaker 1: second generation of Sports Center though, like you're it started 422 00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:53,040 Speaker 1: with Mes and Berman and Bob Lee and then you 423 00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:57,560 Speaker 1: guys are more showtime Lakers. Yeah, yeah, I think that's fair. Yeah, 424 00:23:57,600 --> 00:24:01,440 Speaker 1: I think we we change boards Center and Randy Scott 425 00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:03,560 Speaker 1: is Lebron the newest flavor of the day. You know, 426 00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:08,520 Speaker 1: probably not, but we do like Randy Scott like he 427 00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:12,119 Speaker 1: might be more of Alex Caruso. Yeah, yeah, I was 428 00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:16,040 Speaker 1: thinking casep maybe, Yeah, Van Pelt might be Lebron. Yes, 429 00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:23,560 Speaker 1: he's the new guy who is Riese Davis Es Davis. Um, 430 00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:28,800 Speaker 1: we don't need to go down this that this is 431 00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:30,720 Speaker 1: a rabbit hole that we don't need to do on 432 00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:34,800 Speaker 1: a Friday. It's way too much thinking there. I leave 433 00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:38,199 Speaker 1: the thinking up to right Thompson, ESPN Senior Writer. By 434 00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:41,240 Speaker 1: the way, get your copy of Wright's book Pappy Land 435 00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:44,600 Speaker 1: online wherever books are sold. Great Father's Day gift. I 436 00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:47,760 Speaker 1: breeze through Pappy Land. It's about Pappy van Winkle, but 437 00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:51,280 Speaker 1: it's it's more than just about this great bourbon. It's 438 00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:54,520 Speaker 1: about it's about your father. And even if you don't 439 00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:57,879 Speaker 1: have a father, Hey, like me and paul I and Fritzie, 440 00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:01,399 Speaker 1: it's it's a great, great read there, and right, Timpson 441 00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:04,280 Speaker 1: joins us. Now, I thought about you, as I often do, 442 00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:09,280 Speaker 1: right with urban Meyer going through everything that he's going through, 443 00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:12,600 Speaker 1: I went back and reread your profile of Irban Meyer. 444 00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:16,080 Speaker 1: Is he wired to be an NFL head coach? In 445 00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:19,360 Speaker 1: your opinion? I mean, it's funny because I went back. 446 00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:23,840 Speaker 1: I never go read one, and I read it not 447 00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:30,800 Speaker 1: that long ago, and so to cop out on your 448 00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:34,800 Speaker 1: original question, I don't know if he is. I think 449 00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:39,160 Speaker 1: he is wired to try to be successful at anything, 450 00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:42,919 Speaker 1: and I think that, like many many successful people, the 451 00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:46,399 Speaker 1: things that make him greater so closely tied to the 452 00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:50,080 Speaker 1: things that ultimately cause him to self destruct that it's 453 00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:53,480 Speaker 1: sort of hard to say. I one of the things 454 00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:57,560 Speaker 1: I always liked about urban Meyer is that he and 455 00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:00,560 Speaker 1: you know how rare this is, he seems to be 456 00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:04,560 Speaker 1: self aware enough in moments to understand all of his 457 00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:07,960 Speaker 1: own worst impulses and his inability to control them. And like, 458 00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:12,000 Speaker 1: I found that really interesting that like he could still 459 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:14,040 Speaker 1: sort of see the guide in the mirror, and that 460 00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:19,199 Speaker 1: is pretty rare. But also he doesn't step on the 461 00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:22,119 Speaker 1: field ninety nine percent of the time with the best talent, 462 00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:24,600 Speaker 1: the best team. Now he's going to step on the field, 463 00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:28,440 Speaker 1: and then I wonder what that losing does to him 464 00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:31,080 Speaker 1: when you lose more games in a season than you 465 00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:36,080 Speaker 1: do in five years, And how does that penetrate urban Meyer. 466 00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:40,280 Speaker 1: And it's just a different job. I mean, it is 467 00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:44,399 Speaker 1: just fundamentally a different job. And so you know, I 468 00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:46,479 Speaker 1: was with I was there when he talked to his 469 00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:50,000 Speaker 1: first ever recruiting class, like their first week at Ohio State, 470 00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:54,119 Speaker 1: and he talked about the sound the crowd made when 471 00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:56,760 Speaker 1: they came out of the tunnel, and he talked about 472 00:26:56,800 --> 00:27:00,200 Speaker 1: the sound five rings made when they would slay him 473 00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:02,760 Speaker 1: their hand down on the podium when they got their diploma, 474 00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:05,439 Speaker 1: and like describe to them coming back here with their 475 00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:09,280 Speaker 1: kids and grandkids, and it's just like that that's a stick. 476 00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:13,480 Speaker 1: That's unfair, that's cynical and unfair, but it is that 477 00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:15,919 Speaker 1: thing has an audience, and that audience is not an 478 00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:20,639 Speaker 1: NFL locker room. And then I just wondered health wise, 479 00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:25,919 Speaker 1: like you're around him, is he aware of his health 480 00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:29,120 Speaker 1: and what it did to him, what the job does 481 00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:33,600 Speaker 1: to him. I think, well, this is what we were 482 00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:36,360 Speaker 1: just talking about. I mean, I think intellectually he knows 483 00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:40,880 Speaker 1: his wife, Shelley, who's great. You know, I don't think 484 00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:43,000 Speaker 1: she would let him go back if she didn't believe 485 00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:45,480 Speaker 1: that he was okay. But I mean it's sort of 486 00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:47,679 Speaker 1: I mean, it's a little bit of a dry drunk, 487 00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:51,800 Speaker 1: you know. I mean, the propensity to lose yourself in 488 00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:56,520 Speaker 1: this rabbit hole is always there, and it is interesting 489 00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:59,280 Speaker 1: that he knows this is a fire that burns him, 490 00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:02,520 Speaker 1: but he keeps going back to it. And I mean that, 491 00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:04,440 Speaker 1: to me is as interesting a thing to watch is 492 00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:06,560 Speaker 1: what the team does on the field. When you heard 493 00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:10,280 Speaker 1: about Tim Tebow and the possibility, your first reaction was, 494 00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:16,359 Speaker 1: I mean, of course, you know, there are many ways 495 00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:21,200 Speaker 1: to describe Urban that are charitable and uncharitable, and most 496 00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:23,520 Speaker 1: of them are true. I've always thought he's just a 497 00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:26,720 Speaker 1: guy who's desperate for a belief system, and I think 498 00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:34,120 Speaker 1: he finds Tim Tebow's certainty to be reassuring and because 499 00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:36,160 Speaker 1: and I mean, look, this is now, we're now we've 500 00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:43,720 Speaker 1: ventured into psychobabble. But like Urban is is a guy 501 00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:46,880 Speaker 1: searching for a thing to believe in, And so it 502 00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:50,400 Speaker 1: makes sense that people who really believe something, whether that 503 00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:54,920 Speaker 1: is an offensive philosophy or you know, the four Books 504 00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:59,080 Speaker 1: of the Gospel. He is attracted to that always, Paula, 505 00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:03,040 Speaker 1: give right the pull question today? All right, if business 506 00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:06,240 Speaker 1: based off Bob Bafforts and the preakness, would you rather 507 00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:17,320 Speaker 1: be considered a cheater or incompetent slash reckless? Wow? I 508 00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:20,360 Speaker 1: think I would rather Oh Wow, that's hard. I mean, 509 00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:24,120 Speaker 1: I guess I would rather be seen as incompetent and reckless. 510 00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:31,960 Speaker 1: Is Bob Baffort a cheater or reckless? I was just 511 00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:34,280 Speaker 1: talking about this with people and I honestly don't know 512 00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:36,960 Speaker 1: the answer. I mean, I find it hard to believe 513 00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:39,120 Speaker 1: that someone would be that careless, that close to a 514 00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:42,760 Speaker 1: race like that. But it's also you know, I mean, 515 00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:46,120 Speaker 1: Bob Bafford is Nick Saban, and these horses are the 516 00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:49,080 Speaker 1: five star recruits, and he sees them in their living room, 517 00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:52,360 Speaker 1: and he sees them on senior day. And you know 518 00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:55,000 Speaker 1: that's not a stretch to say that their players at Alabama, 519 00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:57,400 Speaker 1: who after their recruiting visit will never be alone in 520 00:29:57,400 --> 00:29:59,800 Speaker 1: a room with Nick Saban again. And so like, if 521 00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:03,080 Speaker 1: you're an owner and you're hiring Bob Baffort, you're buying 522 00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:06,280 Speaker 1: the Bob Bafford experience. And so the thing that will 523 00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:10,280 Speaker 1: be tricky for Bob is to accurately explain what's going 524 00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:14,400 Speaker 1: on at the barn and not destroy the myth. I mean, 525 00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:17,000 Speaker 1: he's a CEO. I mean, that's what these guys do 526 00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:19,000 Speaker 1: at this level when you have that many horses. But 527 00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:21,720 Speaker 1: I think if you have a million dollar horse in 528 00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:23,600 Speaker 1: your head, you you know, you've seen the movies. You 529 00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:26,880 Speaker 1: imagine Bob Bafford stroke him and whispered to him at 530 00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:29,120 Speaker 1: five o'clock in the morning, and you know, like it 531 00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:32,240 Speaker 1: just it doesn't work like that. And so you know, 532 00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:36,920 Speaker 1: this is the classic dangerous scandal because just below the 533 00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:41,280 Speaker 1: news is the really potentially damaging thing for an entire 534 00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:43,400 Speaker 1: way of doing business. But I don't know if you 535 00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:46,600 Speaker 1: saw his interview with me or heard about it, but 536 00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:50,200 Speaker 1: I said, Bob, have you taken inventory with your staff, 537 00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:55,440 Speaker 1: like before you do scorched Earth? Don't you ask like, 538 00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:58,560 Speaker 1: don't you start with your veterinarian and just say, I 539 00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:00,520 Speaker 1: just want to make sure because I'm gonna get in 540 00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:03,200 Speaker 1: front of the cameras and I'm going at people like 541 00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:06,760 Speaker 1: he had canceled culture, he had sabotage. And you're going, 542 00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:11,400 Speaker 1: if I just let me start with a veterinarian. Yeah, 543 00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:15,120 Speaker 1: just like, can somebody tell me every single thing that 544 00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:17,480 Speaker 1: has touched this horse and if any of those things 545 00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:19,560 Speaker 1: have this thing in it? You would think that would 546 00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:21,560 Speaker 1: be the first question. Well, you see the cream, it's 547 00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:25,760 Speaker 1: right there on it. You see this this anti inflammatory 548 00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:29,400 Speaker 1: or fungal thing right there on the label. Sometimes you 549 00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:32,040 Speaker 1: just got to look at Mark Maguire's locker, you know, 550 00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:35,120 Speaker 1: I think, like, but like, it's just right there. I mean, 551 00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:39,320 Speaker 1: it's very I don't know, I don't know the answer 552 00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:41,240 Speaker 1: to that, but that's the that's a million dollar questions. 553 00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:44,880 Speaker 1: But do you think horse racing fans care? No? And 554 00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:46,760 Speaker 1: I mean I think this is the now we're at 555 00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:52,000 Speaker 1: the real question, which is is horse racing design for 556 00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:55,560 Speaker 1: a transparent world in which scrutiny exists? And the answer, 557 00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:59,520 Speaker 1: frankly might be no. And it was very interesting to 558 00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:03,120 Speaker 1: me to see how hard Churchill downs came out against 559 00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:06,520 Speaker 1: Bafford because the only two real centers of power and 560 00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:09,120 Speaker 1: horse racing as it exists in popular culture are the 561 00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:11,720 Speaker 1: Kentucky Derby and Bob Bafford. So the fact that they 562 00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:16,960 Speaker 1: turned on each other almost immediately within hours. Was really 563 00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:21,280 Speaker 1: interesting because maybe they know something we don't know. But 564 00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:26,480 Speaker 1: there it seems your fans don't care and would rather 565 00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:30,360 Speaker 1: just not think about it. So it seems a very 566 00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:34,720 Speaker 1: strategically interesting move by them, and you know, it makes 567 00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:37,800 Speaker 1: me wonder, you know, I hate maybe they're just like 568 00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:41,000 Speaker 1: fed up and like or maybe they know something we 569 00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:42,719 Speaker 1: don't know. But it was just it was very interesting 570 00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:45,960 Speaker 1: to see the only two things, only two household names 571 00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:48,800 Speaker 1: and horse racing turn on each other within several hours. 572 00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:52,720 Speaker 1: What are you working on now? Man? I am going 573 00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:56,280 Speaker 1: to Manchester, England in two weeks for my it's a 574 00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:59,640 Speaker 1: first international trip post COVID, and am writing a story 575 00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:04,360 Speaker 1: about man United supporters, specifically in a couple of really 576 00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:08,200 Speaker 1: old neighborhoods. Can I go with you? You could absolutely 577 00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:12,920 Speaker 1: come with me. I gotta quit this job and get divorced. 578 00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:16,120 Speaker 1: I'll do it. I'll do it. I mean for you know, 579 00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:18,280 Speaker 1: you're gonna lose your house, so you might have to 580 00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:22,320 Speaker 1: come with me. Okay, yeah, Man, because you love yourself 581 00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:24,840 Speaker 1: some soccer. But is it the soccer or is it 582 00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:29,080 Speaker 1: the fans? I like the fan? Well, I mean both, 583 00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:32,400 Speaker 1: but in this instance I like. I like man United, 584 00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:37,360 Speaker 1: UH Man City, Liverpool. I like those UH teams in 585 00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:40,040 Speaker 1: those towns that were the cradle of the Industrial Revolution. 586 00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:44,640 Speaker 1: You know, Manchester United started as the company softball team 587 00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:50,200 Speaker 1: essentially for the Lancashire and Yorkshire Railroad, and so you know, 588 00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:56,480 Speaker 1: this thing has roots in in the Industrial Revolution. So 589 00:33:56,520 --> 00:34:00,200 Speaker 1: I find it interesting that the forces that changed all 590 00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:02,960 Speaker 1: of these people's lives and created these teams were the 591 00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:06,600 Speaker 1: forces of globalism. That Manchester and Liverpool in London sit 592 00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:09,560 Speaker 1: out into the world, and now they've arrived back on 593 00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:13,080 Speaker 1: their shores in the form of globalist owners of their teams, 594 00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:15,279 Speaker 1: and they don't like it, which I don't blame them, 595 00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:18,320 Speaker 1: but it is interesting that, like, you sent this boomerang 596 00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:20,239 Speaker 1: out into the world and now it has finally come 597 00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:23,040 Speaker 1: back to you. By the way, right Thompson is a 598 00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:27,160 Speaker 1: twenty twenty one American Society of Magazine Editors Awards finalists 599 00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:31,279 Speaker 1: Feature Writing Category from Michael Jordan's History of Flight. I 600 00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:33,480 Speaker 1: know you didn't ask me to mention that, but Fritzie 601 00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:36,640 Speaker 1: got me that information there. What do you want people 602 00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:39,959 Speaker 1: to know about that article that you did on Michael Jordan, 603 00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:46,560 Speaker 1: that profile that Michael, that The key to understand, the 604 00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:49,880 Speaker 1: key to really seeing Michael Jordan, I think, is understanding 605 00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:53,719 Speaker 1: how country he grew up and how country his family is. 606 00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:57,279 Speaker 1: And you know, he grew up on grandparents and great grandparents, 607 00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:02,320 Speaker 1: arms and the country outside of Wilmington. People think Wilmington, 608 00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:04,560 Speaker 1: but they lived on the very edge of Wilmington, and 609 00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:07,560 Speaker 1: until his father moved there, they had always lived in 610 00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:11,799 Speaker 1: this tiny little square of North Carolina. There's burgall up there. 611 00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:14,000 Speaker 1: There are a bunch of places that listeners probably know about, 612 00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:18,680 Speaker 1: and so he's very, very country. And you know, his 613 00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:21,120 Speaker 1: defining memory of his father growing up is his dad 614 00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:23,319 Speaker 1: out working on a car in the driveway with the 615 00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:25,840 Speaker 1: car on blocks and running around in the woods with 616 00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:32,520 Speaker 1: his brothers and so so seeing that explains a lot 617 00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:36,319 Speaker 1: of things about how he became like he is. I mean, 618 00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:39,520 Speaker 1: Michael knew, Michael knew his great grandfather who was the 619 00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:44,240 Speaker 1: son of a slave. I mean it the history shrinks 620 00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:47,440 Speaker 1: in on itself. I mean, I love to go places 621 00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:50,719 Speaker 1: where the membrane between past and present is as thin 622 00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:53,400 Speaker 1: as possible, and there are a lot of places like 623 00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:56,560 Speaker 1: that all over eastern North Carolina where Michael Jordan grew up. 624 00:35:57,200 --> 00:36:02,280 Speaker 1: Do you ever profile happy people. Yes, Dale Murphy. Dude, 625 00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:05,959 Speaker 1: Oh you're right, But what is that boring? Because Murph 626 00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:08,919 Speaker 1: is one of the great people, not great athletes, great 627 00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:12,040 Speaker 1: people I've ever met. It was I mean, I don't 628 00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:14,680 Speaker 1: want to wax on murf too much, but it was 629 00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:19,200 Speaker 1: life changing for me in that it allowed, God, I 630 00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:21,480 Speaker 1: can't believe I'm saying this, This is like a therapy session. 631 00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:25,600 Speaker 1: It allowed me to see the dangers of sort of 632 00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:28,640 Speaker 1: my own ambition because I was confronted with a guy 633 00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:31,640 Speaker 1: who had come out the other side and had made 634 00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:34,759 Speaker 1: the correct choices and was very, very happy and was 635 00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:37,319 Speaker 1: happy with his family both and how he saw them 636 00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:40,919 Speaker 1: and how they saw him. And I just walked away thinking, well, 637 00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:43,040 Speaker 1: this guy, this is the closest I've ever seen to 638 00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:45,799 Speaker 1: the Secret of Life on display. I mean, it's one 639 00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:47,719 Speaker 1: of the you know you talked about happy Land. I 640 00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:50,400 Speaker 1: mean one of the things that was really driving that 641 00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:53,640 Speaker 1: book is I mean I started on that pretty soon 642 00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:57,359 Speaker 1: after I was with Murph, and it was I mean, 643 00:36:57,400 --> 00:37:00,359 Speaker 1: it was, if anything, that book is a roadmap for 644 00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:03,279 Speaker 1: me to try to figure out how to be more 645 00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:09,760 Speaker 1: like Dale Murphy. That's high praise, that's hi praise for Murphy. 646 00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:11,920 Speaker 1: He's something, you know, he's Oh my gosh, yeah, he's 647 00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:15,200 Speaker 1: as good he's and it's real and like you shouldn't 648 00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:18,680 Speaker 1: meet your childhood heroes. So I was very nervous about 649 00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:20,600 Speaker 1: that because I was like, if Dale Murphy's a jerk, 650 00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:24,160 Speaker 1: I don't honestly, I don't believe in anything anyway. I 651 00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:27,200 Speaker 1: remember meeting Pete Maravich and I just wanted him to 652 00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:31,040 Speaker 1: be a good guy. And I don't know if he was, 653 00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:36,080 Speaker 1: but it stayed with me. You know, you're right, be 654 00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:39,799 Speaker 1: careful what you asked for. Hey, hepe, family's good and uh, 655 00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:42,480 Speaker 1: play nice when you go over there to England. All right, 656 00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:45,000 Speaker 1: oh I will. I know. I'm very excited for my 657 00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:47,760 Speaker 1: full English breakfast. I have to quarantine for five days 658 00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:50,600 Speaker 1: in a hotel, which, as the parent of two toddlers, 659 00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:56,120 Speaker 1: sounds great. Have some blood pudding over there, uh huh yeah, 660 00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:58,200 Speaker 1: I don't have whatever, as long as I could say good, 661 00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:02,600 Speaker 1: thank you, right, great to talk to you, buddy. That's right. 662 00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:05,239 Speaker 1: Thom's an ESPN senior writer. And get your copy of 663 00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:08,319 Speaker 1: the book Pappy Land online wherever books are sold. And 664 00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:13,279 Speaker 1: really it's a wonderful Father's Day gift. I read it 665 00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:17,400 Speaker 1: quickly and it was great. But it's really about your father. 666 00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:21,719 Speaker 1: It's not necessarily about bourbon because Pappy van Winkle is 667 00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:26,680 Speaker 1: this exclusive bourbon, but he talked to Pappy, the founder 668 00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:31,880 Speaker 1: of Pappy van Winkle, and it's really just about understanding 669 00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:35,839 Speaker 1: kind of your family tree. Well, take a break phone 670 00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:38,480 Speaker 1: calls after this. Thanks for listening to The Dan Patrick 671 00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:41,320 Speaker 1: Show podcast. Be sure to catch us live every weekday 672 00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:44,120 Speaker 1: morning nine until noon eastern six to nine Pacific on 673 00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:46,560 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio, and you can find us on the 674 00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:50,799 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio app at FSR or stream us live on the 675 00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:55,440 Speaker 1: Peacock app. Hey, this is Jason McIntyre. Join me every 676 00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:59,480 Speaker 1: weekday morning on my podcast, Straight Fire with Jason McIntyre. 677 00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:03,799 Speaker 1: Isn't your typical sportspod pushing the same tired narratives down 678 00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:07,200 Speaker 1: your throat every day? Straight Fire gives you honest opinions 679 00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:10,520 Speaker 1: on all the biggest sports headlines, accurate stats to help 680 00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:12,759 Speaker 1: you win big at the sports book, and all the 681 00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:15,520 Speaker 1: best guests. Do yourself a favor and listen to Straight 682 00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:20,320 Speaker 1: Fire with Jason McIntyre on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, 683 00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:25,480 Speaker 1: or wherever you get your podcasts. Peter Schrager, NFL Network 684 00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:28,640 Speaker 1: Insider's gonna join us top of the Hour and Guy 685 00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:34,239 Speaker 1: Fieri Diners, Drive Ins and Dives. He's going to weigh 686 00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:37,520 Speaker 1: in on the deviled egg debate that we've had the 687 00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:42,239 Speaker 1: last two days. I saw the Devil's deviled eggs. I 688 00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:46,719 Speaker 1: call him the Devil's eggs. Freudian slipped there, deviled eggs 689 00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:49,280 Speaker 1: and they look pretty good. They were on the Tregger 690 00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:53,120 Speaker 1: and Tyler. Tyler had him cooking this morning. Yes you 691 00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:56,000 Speaker 1: think it a Devil's dan drift from earlier in the US. Yeah, 692 00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:58,480 Speaker 1: you're right up on the show. Yeah. So Guy Fieri 693 00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:01,120 Speaker 1: will join us in the final or the show. He'll 694 00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:05,120 Speaker 1: settle that debate. Gets phone calls coming up. You know, 695 00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:07,440 Speaker 1: I was looking at the latest on Deshaun Watson, but 696 00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:10,480 Speaker 1: there is nothing that's really the latest on Deshaun Watson. 697 00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:14,799 Speaker 1: We're nine weeks away from training camp. I don't know 698 00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:19,760 Speaker 1: how this ends now. The investigation is ongoing. The NFL 699 00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:23,919 Speaker 1: is involved in this. Some of the alleged victims said 700 00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:26,319 Speaker 1: that they didn't think the NFL was taking what they 701 00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:32,920 Speaker 1: said serious enough. Both attorneys have been talking publicly, probably 702 00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:35,319 Speaker 1: not to one another. Is there going to be a 703 00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:39,600 Speaker 1: civil you know, lawsuit settlement here. I mean that's the 704 00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:42,840 Speaker 1: only way it goes away. When does it go away? 705 00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:47,520 Speaker 1: Is there going to be a suspension? Commissioners list? Those 706 00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:49,920 Speaker 1: are the things that if you're trading for him, you 707 00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:51,640 Speaker 1: got a factor in how long is he going to 708 00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:55,759 Speaker 1: be suspended? Is he on the commissioner's exempt list? Now, 709 00:40:55,840 --> 00:40:58,920 Speaker 1: keep in mind what happened to Ben Roethlisberger, although I 710 00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:02,239 Speaker 1: don't think that they who's the commissioner's example list? It 711 00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:07,680 Speaker 1: hadn't been invented. Adrian Peterson, you know, he was the 712 00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:10,680 Speaker 1: reason why he was invented. Now he lost a good 713 00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:16,200 Speaker 1: portion of a season after child abuse. Ray Rice, you 714 00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:20,640 Speaker 1: know the commissioner's example list. I'm guessing Deshaun Watson that 715 00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:23,360 Speaker 1: punishment is probably going to be at least four games, 716 00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:27,440 Speaker 1: maybe more. But I don't know if you can make 717 00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:30,200 Speaker 1: a deal. I don't know the inner workings of any 718 00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:33,839 Speaker 1: of this other than it's been quiet. And if you're 719 00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:36,200 Speaker 1: a team trying to still hold out hope that you 720 00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:39,640 Speaker 1: can trade for Deshaun Watson, when can you do that 721 00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:42,520 Speaker 1: and when can you find out what the punishment? The 722 00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:47,040 Speaker 1: NFL doesn't go, Hey, you made a trade for him, Hey, 723 00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:49,120 Speaker 1: we'll let you know, or prior to making a trade, 724 00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:51,120 Speaker 1: we'll let you know how long he's going to be suspended. 725 00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:55,319 Speaker 1: They got other things to worry about. And then you're 726 00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:57,960 Speaker 1: going to find out because you're probably not going to know, 727 00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:00,479 Speaker 1: And I think that'll be kind of if a cult 728 00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:04,279 Speaker 1: to move him. Let me see Cody in California. Hey, Code, 729 00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:07,400 Speaker 1: what's on your mind today? Hey Dan, I want to 730 00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:10,759 Speaker 1: do a thank you for acknowledging the Sacramentos Kings and 731 00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:14,000 Speaker 1: competence earlier. My friends a King's fan and he only 732 00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:18,520 Speaker 1: ever mentions three things, then Tim donaghey, and that he 733 00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:20,719 Speaker 1: was thirteen the last time they made the playoffs, so 734 00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:23,399 Speaker 1: he hasn't had a beer sin and watched his team 735 00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:27,240 Speaker 1: in the playoffs since. And Robert Horry the worst franchise 736 00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:29,120 Speaker 1: to be a fan of. Also, I would have bet 737 00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:32,000 Speaker 1: my life that mclvin was a defender of deviled eggs. 738 00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:34,440 Speaker 1: The guy thinks Adam Dunne the Hall of Famer. For 739 00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:36,160 Speaker 1: God's sake, is there an exemple list we could put 740 00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:40,240 Speaker 1: him onto that take? Wow? Cody, thank you. The analytics 741 00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:45,000 Speaker 1: show that deviled eggs is an efficient way to deliver protein. Yeah, 742 00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:49,160 Speaker 1: but explain Adam Dunn is a great player. It's obvious, 743 00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:54,080 Speaker 1: it's not. At some point in Major League Baseball history, 744 00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:56,799 Speaker 1: someone decided to walk doesn't count as a hit. It's 745 00:42:56,800 --> 00:42:59,200 Speaker 1: a dumbist thing in the history of sports because it's 746 00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:02,760 Speaker 1: the same thing you get the first base. So because 747 00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:05,279 Speaker 1: of that, everyone started talking about batting average when they 748 00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:09,960 Speaker 1: should be only talking about on base percentage. 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