1 00:00:04,680 --> 00:00:08,920 Speaker 1: From the red carpet arrivals to glamorous after parties. It's 2 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:12,520 Speaker 1: the most magical night of the year. And today the 3 00:00:12,560 --> 00:00:16,360 Speaker 1: Action Network honors Hollywood the best way we know how 4 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:21,200 Speaker 1: by helping you profit up the monumental creative achievements of others. 5 00:00:21,600 --> 00:00:25,599 Speaker 1: And what's more Hollywood than that. Let's gamble on the 6 00:00:25,640 --> 00:00:28,400 Speaker 1: Academy Awards. 7 00:00:31,200 --> 00:00:34,240 Speaker 2: What's up, everybody? This is the Action Network podcast presented 8 00:00:34,240 --> 00:00:37,440 Speaker 2: by FANDU. I'm your host, Chris Rabon, and this is 9 00:00:37,800 --> 00:00:41,640 Speaker 2: the betting preview for the ninety fifth presentation of the 10 00:00:41,960 --> 00:00:45,440 Speaker 2: Academy Awards. I'm here with my dude, Colin Wilson, and 11 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:48,000 Speaker 2: we are going to break down all of the top 12 00:00:48,040 --> 00:00:50,600 Speaker 2: categories as well as all of our best bets outside 13 00:00:50,600 --> 00:00:55,000 Speaker 2: those categories. Everything you need to bet the ninety fifth Oscars. 14 00:00:55,800 --> 00:00:58,680 Speaker 2: We'll start with Best Picture and keep going down. So, Colin, 15 00:00:58,920 --> 00:01:01,360 Speaker 2: what's going on to be here with you again? And 16 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:03,360 Speaker 2: how you feeling about this year's race. 17 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:05,040 Speaker 3: There's not a lot of times you and I get 18 00:01:05,080 --> 00:01:07,800 Speaker 3: to cross streams. I look forward to this podcast, so 19 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:10,600 Speaker 3: our fourth time we've done this. We love doing this 20 00:01:10,720 --> 00:01:12,919 Speaker 3: Oscars betting and we've made some big money. 21 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:14,640 Speaker 2: I will just get it out right now. 22 00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:17,080 Speaker 3: I'm still pissed Cynthia Ribo did not win our fifty 23 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:19,440 Speaker 3: to one years ago. Let's keep chipping awa, Let's see 24 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:20,440 Speaker 3: if we can find some winners here. 25 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 2: Poor one out of Cynthia Man. That was tough, but 26 00:01:24,160 --> 00:01:26,040 Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure we made it back. But let's start 27 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:28,640 Speaker 2: our best picture here, thank ju. 28 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 3: Well, it all comes down to this, the best picture 29 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:36,240 Speaker 3: and the moment. 30 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:39,880 Speaker 2: Dejon. The front runner is everything everywhere, all at once 31 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:43,880 Speaker 2: at minus seven hundred, which means you got to bet 32 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:47,640 Speaker 2: seven hundred hours to win one hundred. For those who bet, 33 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:49,800 Speaker 2: maybe only during the Oscars. If you listen to this, 34 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:53,240 Speaker 2: you know, shouts to you, Banshee. The Vinish Sharon is 35 00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:56,520 Speaker 2: next at eleven to one, so a huge gap between 36 00:01:56,520 --> 00:01:58,680 Speaker 2: the front runner and everybody else, all quiet on the 37 00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:04,280 Speaker 2: western front fourteen to one. The Fableman's at twenty five 38 00:02:04,360 --> 00:02:08,400 Speaker 2: to one, and then a bunch of long shots after that, 39 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:13,600 Speaker 2: top Gun, Maverick, Tar, Elvis, women talking Avatar, and triangle 40 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:17,839 Speaker 2: of sadness rounded out. So Colin, what are we doing 41 00:02:18,040 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 2: for best picture? 42 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:22,519 Speaker 3: Amazing to me how far the Fablements has fallen, because 43 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:24,360 Speaker 3: I think six months ago they were the favorite in 44 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:27,400 Speaker 3: this and then everything everywhere, all at once, just took 45 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:30,080 Speaker 3: over the market. And we're not just talking the best picture, 46 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:33,800 Speaker 3: We're talking a lot of categories. Everything everywhere, all at 47 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:35,760 Speaker 3: once took over. And I think the fable ones were 48 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:38,280 Speaker 3: minus one twenty about six months ago, and it's funny 49 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:40,760 Speaker 3: how far that they have fallen down. So for me 50 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:45,800 Speaker 3: with this, you know, everything everywhere all at once minus 51 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:48,640 Speaker 3: you know whatever, minus seven hundred. It's probably gonna steam 52 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:50,480 Speaker 3: on game day when we get to the Oscars day. 53 00:02:50,639 --> 00:02:52,960 Speaker 3: But what everybody needs to realize is that ninety seven 54 00:02:53,040 --> 00:02:57,160 Speaker 3: percent of the experts and editors make this the number 55 00:02:57,200 --> 00:03:00,239 Speaker 3: one film. And remember how the Oscar voting happens. You 56 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:03,200 Speaker 3: listed one, two, three, you get points for where you 57 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:06,679 Speaker 3: fall in these ballots. And when I say ninety seven 58 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:09,040 Speaker 3: percent of experts and editors picked this as the number 59 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:11,920 Speaker 3: one picture, Chris, I couldn't find anybody that put it 60 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:14,000 Speaker 3: lower than two. The people that didn't pick this as 61 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:16,480 Speaker 3: the number one film picked it as number two. So 62 00:03:16,639 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 3: to me, this is the cheapest buy on the board 63 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:23,639 Speaker 3: minus seven hundred. Please, it's an easy buy. 64 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:27,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's undervalue to Cornett. And by the way, 65 00:03:27,480 --> 00:03:29,600 Speaker 2: for everyone listening. When we say experts and editors, we're 66 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:33,240 Speaker 2: talking about our friends atgold Derby dot com. Essentially kind of, 67 00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:35,480 Speaker 2: I would look at them as the sharps of award 68 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:37,920 Speaker 2: show races. You know, they have a bunch of editors 69 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:40,800 Speaker 2: and experts, and when you look at them, and I've 70 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 2: been follow kind of tracking their success since they started 71 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:46,800 Speaker 2: tracking in twenty eleven, and you know, kind of to 72 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:50,280 Speaker 2: your point, you know, even if they don't get every 73 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:55,000 Speaker 2: category right, anyone who voting for them, like, you know, 74 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:57,200 Speaker 2: as long as a film gets one vote, it's in 75 00:03:57,240 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 2: the running. There's usually not a film where no experts 76 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:03,200 Speaker 2: or no editor picked that goes on to winning a category. 77 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:05,560 Speaker 2: So you know, to your point here, I think everything 78 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:07,560 Speaker 2: everywhere is in a good spot. And I will say this. 79 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:10,640 Speaker 2: You know, you know Bafta, the winner was all quiet 80 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:13,200 Speaker 2: on the western front, right. Well, the BAFTA winner for 81 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:16,839 Speaker 2: Best Film has lost the last eight Oscar Best Pictures, 82 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:20,200 Speaker 2: which is so you can essentially cross all quiet out. 83 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:23,280 Speaker 2: I would say this, you know, that's an ugly number. 84 00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:25,160 Speaker 2: A lot of people aren't gonna want to weigh, you know, 85 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:29,120 Speaker 2: seven hundred probably a thousand to win one hundred. I 86 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:34,400 Speaker 2: would say, the only upset contender in my opinion, and 87 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:37,480 Speaker 2: I've watched I've watched everything every I've watched pretty much 88 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:41,000 Speaker 2: all these movies on this list. The only one I 89 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:43,600 Speaker 2: would say is Man Cheese of in Asher and it's 90 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:46,120 Speaker 2: still so low. But that was just Banshe's I think 91 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:48,600 Speaker 2: was just a really great movie. Kind of matched it 92 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 2: in every in a lot of different categories, but everywhere, 93 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:55,080 Speaker 2: everything all at once, they're just more movie, right, Like 94 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 2: it was just longer. Yeah, you know there was more 95 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:02,279 Speaker 2: special effects and more editing boxes right, all the boxes right. 96 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:05,880 Speaker 3: And I agree with you that that is the contender here, 97 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:08,320 Speaker 3: But does it get enough second place votes to even 98 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:11,400 Speaker 3: try to chip away at what the price is here? 99 00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:13,800 Speaker 3: To me, Raymond, when you look at the fact that 100 00:05:13,880 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 3: the editors and the experts are all over this, and 101 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:18,120 Speaker 3: the fact that it's not falling below two, I would 102 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:21,280 Speaker 3: buy this to minus thirty two hundred. That's what I 103 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:24,240 Speaker 3: priced it at for Best Picture. And you know what, 104 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:26,160 Speaker 3: I'm gonna put a lot of money in this, And 105 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:29,400 Speaker 3: like Bong June Ho said, I'm gonna drink a lot 106 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:31,160 Speaker 3: of beer. I'm gonna cash just take up a drink 107 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:33,360 Speaker 3: a lot of beer. Tonight after he won for Parasite 108 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:34,520 Speaker 3: Best Picture, Best Director. 109 00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:38,400 Speaker 2: Speaking of Best Director, let's go right into the Best 110 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:42,600 Speaker 2: Director nominees for this year, Daniel Kwan and Daniel Shiner 111 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:47,039 Speaker 2: for Everything Everywhere, All at Once, minus eighteen hundred. Spielberg 112 00:05:47,760 --> 00:05:51,520 Speaker 2: is at plus eight fifty. You know, he's the second place. 113 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:55,880 Speaker 2: Then you have tar and ban Cheese and Triangle of Sadness. 114 00:05:56,279 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 2: Huge long shots here, but I know you're kind of 115 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:03,440 Speaker 2: tempted by Spielberg's I'm talking about him, I am. 116 00:06:03,520 --> 00:06:05,680 Speaker 3: I mean, I'm calling it the two Daniels, right, So 117 00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:07,640 Speaker 3: if you go by the experts, the two Daniels should 118 00:06:07,640 --> 00:06:11,000 Speaker 3: be about minus three hundred and Spielberg should be plus 119 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:14,240 Speaker 3: three hundred. If you go by the experts and you 120 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:17,240 Speaker 3: go by the editors over at gold Derby, there's a 121 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:19,560 Speaker 3: lot of love for the two Daniels, but not enough 122 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:22,120 Speaker 3: to justify the price that's in the market right now. 123 00:06:22,640 --> 00:06:25,080 Speaker 3: Right now, you should be getting Spielberg up to plus 124 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:27,520 Speaker 3: three hundred. And that is the play for me. I mean, 125 00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:30,520 Speaker 3: it's tough to sway from the director's guild. Sam Mendez 126 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:33,080 Speaker 3: one director's guild and then lost Bob june Hoe in 127 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:37,360 Speaker 3: twenty nineteen. That was parasite versus nineteen seventeen. Hopefully there's 128 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:41,279 Speaker 3: no Yorgos esteem here that we had, you know, But 129 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:44,880 Speaker 3: right now, Spielberg to me has value to three to one. 130 00:06:44,920 --> 00:06:46,800 Speaker 3: And the reason I want to take an underdog here, 131 00:06:46,839 --> 00:06:49,440 Speaker 3: and the reason I want to go against the director's guild, 132 00:06:49,839 --> 00:06:52,720 Speaker 3: is because the name is Spielberg. If you're going to 133 00:06:52,760 --> 00:06:55,040 Speaker 3: take a dog and the name is Spielberg, it's actually 134 00:06:55,040 --> 00:06:55,680 Speaker 3: not a bad bet. 135 00:06:56,560 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 2: I actually disagree here, and that's because I just I 136 00:06:58,760 --> 00:07:00,560 Speaker 2: just don't think The Favormans was a good I think 137 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:04,160 Speaker 2: the reason it started out hot and felled down was 138 00:07:04,200 --> 00:07:06,200 Speaker 2: because it wasn't a good movie. I think everyone was like, 139 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 2: whoa Steven Spielberg. He's making a movie about himself. It's 140 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:13,640 Speaker 2: gonna be it's gonna be great, and then it just wasn't. 141 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:15,280 Speaker 2: I just think this is a stay away for me. 142 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:17,840 Speaker 3: It's not a huge like I didn't throw a whole 143 00:07:17,840 --> 00:07:20,360 Speaker 3: bunch of money down. I do have money on Spielberg. 144 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:22,960 Speaker 3: It's a little wager and I would buy it to 145 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 3: three to one. 146 00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:23,920 Speaker 2: That's it. 147 00:07:23,960 --> 00:07:25,640 Speaker 3: After that, if it's you know, and I don't think 148 00:07:25,640 --> 00:07:28,560 Speaker 3: it's gonna seem either. Maybe because the weekend of the Oscars. 149 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:30,920 Speaker 3: Spielberg gets the pub because of his name and all 150 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:33,400 Speaker 3: of that in the category. But I would just say 151 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:37,000 Speaker 3: this is a small bet, Spielberg to three to one. 152 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:41,480 Speaker 2: That's the price point, all right. Best Actress. The nominees 153 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:45,400 Speaker 2: are Michelle Yo from Everything Everywhere All at Once is 154 00:07:45,400 --> 00:07:49,120 Speaker 2: the favorite minus one twenty five, got Kate Blanchette from 155 00:07:49,200 --> 00:07:52,640 Speaker 2: Tar minus one fifteen, so they're kind of co favorites 156 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:57,800 Speaker 2: here at least on fandel and then Andrea Riseboro from 157 00:07:57,840 --> 00:08:02,920 Speaker 2: to Leslie, Michelle Williams from The Fableman's and Aady Armists 158 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:07,040 Speaker 2: from Blonde are all twenty five to one or greater, 159 00:08:07,200 --> 00:08:11,160 Speaker 2: So big long shots there. I think it's a two 160 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:16,520 Speaker 2: woman race here with Michelle and Kate. What do you think? Yeah, 161 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:17,200 Speaker 2: this one's tough. 162 00:08:17,240 --> 00:08:19,560 Speaker 3: Now let me get my personal stuff out in the 163 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:22,000 Speaker 3: open here and set it aside, because I am emotionally 164 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:25,880 Speaker 3: attached to Benjamin Button and Kate Blanchett is. If she 165 00:08:25,920 --> 00:08:28,440 Speaker 3: wins her third Oscar here, I'm not gonna be surprised. 166 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:31,160 Speaker 3: I love her, I love everything she does, and I 167 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:33,680 Speaker 3: saw Tar. I actually like Tar. It doesn't fall in 168 00:08:33,679 --> 00:08:36,240 Speaker 3: any category that is Colin Wilson. I still love the movie, 169 00:08:36,679 --> 00:08:39,280 Speaker 3: but I'm going to set all of that aside because 170 00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:41,200 Speaker 3: you have to look at what the category of best 171 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:46,400 Speaker 3: Actress is. The rule play a historical character. Jessica Chastain 172 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:49,440 Speaker 3: one as Tammy fay Baker Rene Zellwigger, but she played 173 00:08:49,480 --> 00:08:53,040 Speaker 3: Judy Garland and Olivia Coleman, you know, Queen Anne. I 174 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:55,040 Speaker 3: mean it was a big upset over Glenn Close. Right, 175 00:08:55,520 --> 00:08:59,040 Speaker 3: historical characters matter here. Nine of twenty four experts took 176 00:08:59,120 --> 00:09:02,360 Speaker 3: Kate Blanchett over Michelle Yeo. Two of thirteen editors took 177 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:06,800 Speaker 3: Kate Blanchett over Michelle y'ao. This is Blanchett's eighth nomination 178 00:09:06,880 --> 00:09:10,840 Speaker 3: for Academy Awards. Saying all that, I think Michelle Yao 179 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:14,199 Speaker 3: survives all the steam. I need plus one sixty to 180 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:16,360 Speaker 3: buy Kate Blanchett. I can't do it at the current 181 00:09:16,400 --> 00:09:20,840 Speaker 3: market price. I would buy Michelleyao up to minus one sixty. 182 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:23,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, I love Kate in Tar. I actually think Kate 183 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:27,360 Speaker 2: might probably just straight up you know who is the best. 184 00:09:27,400 --> 00:09:30,040 Speaker 2: Who had the best performance? Probably Kate because she carried 185 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:33,080 Speaker 2: the movie, whereas like in everything, every yeah we're going 186 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:35,480 Speaker 2: to get there. Yeah, she didn't. She didn't have to, 187 00:09:35,559 --> 00:09:37,200 Speaker 2: and it's not it's not a knock on her though, 188 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:39,839 Speaker 2: like she didn't. She was great and she had a 189 00:09:39,880 --> 00:09:42,360 Speaker 2: lot of like her emotional scenes I think were like 190 00:09:42,440 --> 00:09:46,360 Speaker 2: even the facial expressions she made. I thought, we're really great. 191 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:49,200 Speaker 2: But I look at the two odds and they're essentially 192 00:09:49,280 --> 00:09:51,440 Speaker 2: being treated them being treated as co favorite. So at 193 00:09:51,440 --> 00:09:55,800 Speaker 2: this point, I think you go where the value is right, 194 00:09:55,960 --> 00:09:58,400 Speaker 2: Like I think there it is a toss up. But 195 00:09:59,080 --> 00:10:01,800 Speaker 2: you look at gold Derby. Again, we we do trust 196 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:06,160 Speaker 2: and they have a track record of success since they 197 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:10,800 Speaker 2: started tracking seventy three percent of the winners in this category. 198 00:10:11,280 --> 00:10:14,600 Speaker 2: We're ranked number one by the editors and experts. That's 199 00:10:14,640 --> 00:10:18,200 Speaker 2: Michelle Yo. So you know, you also look at this 200 00:10:18,280 --> 00:10:21,760 Speaker 2: year Michelle Yo sixty eight percent, eighty five percent, sixty 201 00:10:21,760 --> 00:10:25,400 Speaker 2: eight percent experts, eighty five percent editors. You know, even 202 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:28,280 Speaker 2: at sixty eight percent, the implied odds about would be 203 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:32,600 Speaker 2: about minus two thirteen, and she's still minus one twenty five. 204 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:35,000 Speaker 2: So I do think it's a toss up. But when 205 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:38,160 Speaker 2: you're betting, you're looking for value, right, You're not gonna 206 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:40,200 Speaker 2: win every bet all the time. As long as you 207 00:10:40,240 --> 00:10:43,640 Speaker 2: make good value bets you're gonna profit over the long term. 208 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:46,760 Speaker 2: So in this one, I'm going as much as I 209 00:10:46,800 --> 00:10:51,079 Speaker 2: love Kate, I'm going with Michelle here at these odds, 210 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:54,360 Speaker 2: and yeah, I think you play them up to you know, 211 00:10:54,400 --> 00:10:57,439 Speaker 2: anything under minus two hundred. Given what we're seeing from 212 00:10:57,520 --> 00:11:01,280 Speaker 2: from the industry experts, I think it is fair for Michelle. 213 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:04,280 Speaker 2: But I thought Kate would actually be a bigger underdog. 214 00:11:04,360 --> 00:11:06,880 Speaker 2: But the thing was, she did win. You know, she 215 00:11:06,960 --> 00:11:09,400 Speaker 2: won at the Golden Robe in one of the categories 216 00:11:09,400 --> 00:11:11,520 Speaker 2: they split with, and then she won the basket and 217 00:11:11,559 --> 00:11:15,440 Speaker 2: the critics choice, so you know, it is kind of 218 00:11:15,920 --> 00:11:17,960 Speaker 2: she She's definitely in the running, you know, like she 219 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:18,959 Speaker 2: has a lot of persons. 220 00:11:18,960 --> 00:11:21,880 Speaker 3: Absolutely, So I think price point, price point is important, right, 221 00:11:21,960 --> 00:11:24,520 Speaker 3: So taking Michelle Michelle Oh at minus one twenty five, 222 00:11:24,559 --> 00:11:26,720 Speaker 3: I'm locking that in right now as we're recording this pot. 223 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:29,160 Speaker 3: Actually I bought her six months ago when she was 224 00:11:29,160 --> 00:11:31,640 Speaker 3: plus buddy. But Kate Blanchett. The price point for me 225 00:11:31,679 --> 00:11:33,640 Speaker 3: at Kate Blanchett is plus one sixty. So if we 226 00:11:33,640 --> 00:11:36,560 Speaker 3: see some steam, I'm Michelle Yoh and Kate Blanchett falls 227 00:11:36,559 --> 00:11:38,520 Speaker 3: a little bit, That's when I'm gonna buy Kate Blanchett' 228 00:11:38,520 --> 00:11:39,240 Speaker 3: plus one sixty. 229 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:43,800 Speaker 2: All right, let's go to best Actor. We got the 230 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:49,320 Speaker 2: nominees for Best Actor. Here Brendan Fraser at minus one eighty. Whoa, 231 00:11:49,400 --> 00:11:52,000 Speaker 2: that's the rail what a performance? Go ahead, I'm sorry, 232 00:11:53,320 --> 00:11:56,800 Speaker 2: Austin Austin Butler from Elvis at plus one twenty, Colin 233 00:11:56,840 --> 00:12:00,440 Speaker 2: Farrell from the band She's avent a Sharon at fourteen one, 234 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:04,800 Speaker 2: and then Paul mescal from Aftersun and Bill Ny from Living, 235 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:09,160 Speaker 2: both big, big long shots. Here. What do you like? 236 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:14,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, so let's go full disclosure here. I saw the 237 00:12:14,640 --> 00:12:19,040 Speaker 3: whale this second that it came out. And listen. If 238 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:21,320 Speaker 3: you're listening to this, it's oscars, it's spoilers if you 239 00:12:21,320 --> 00:12:24,679 Speaker 3: haven't seen the movie. This scene of his binge eating 240 00:12:24,840 --> 00:12:28,280 Speaker 3: at the fridge, I immediately said, this is an Oscar 241 00:12:28,320 --> 00:12:31,679 Speaker 3: winning performance for Brendan Fraser. I have never seen anything 242 00:12:31,720 --> 00:12:36,079 Speaker 3: like that on camera. As a person whose wife watches 243 00:12:36,160 --> 00:12:38,720 Speaker 3: six hundred pound life, this is something that needs to 244 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:41,079 Speaker 3: be talked about, needs to be discussed about mental health, 245 00:12:41,360 --> 00:12:43,319 Speaker 3: about the reason people get the way that they are 246 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:46,640 Speaker 3: in the whale. With Brnan Fraser, I was so submerged 247 00:12:46,640 --> 00:12:51,120 Speaker 3: into this performance. I immediately bet it months ago. Then 248 00:12:51,320 --> 00:12:54,280 Speaker 3: I started to realize this isn't that this should not 249 00:12:54,400 --> 00:12:57,520 Speaker 3: be the favorite. The favorite in this should be Elvis 250 00:12:57,840 --> 00:12:59,520 Speaker 3: by far. It's not even close. So if you look 251 00:12:59,559 --> 00:13:03,480 Speaker 3: at the gold Be editors, right, they've got Austin Butler, 252 00:13:03,880 --> 00:13:07,320 Speaker 3: nine of them, of the thirteen Fraser, they've got four 253 00:13:07,400 --> 00:13:10,560 Speaker 3: of the thirteen experts they I mean they love twelve 254 00:13:10,720 --> 00:13:13,439 Speaker 3: twelve for the Elvis performance, nine for Brendan Fraser, three 255 00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:16,400 Speaker 3: for call On Farrell for the Banshees. A British actor 256 00:13:16,520 --> 00:13:19,920 Speaker 3: in a British produced film with a BAFTA is the 257 00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:22,360 Speaker 3: template for this. This is how you and I Raybaond 258 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:25,760 Speaker 3: cashed Anthony Hopkins, right, Anthony Hopkins seven to one. You 259 00:13:25,800 --> 00:13:28,120 Speaker 3: and I made big money. They cut the Oscar Show 260 00:13:28,160 --> 00:13:30,240 Speaker 3: off and it just went off the air. You know, 261 00:13:30,320 --> 00:13:32,160 Speaker 3: they didn't even I mean, it's just like Anthony Hopkins 262 00:13:32,240 --> 00:13:35,280 Speaker 3: isn't here, here's the award. The show's over, right, So 263 00:13:35,320 --> 00:13:38,960 Speaker 3: the template is British actor, British produced BAFTA is the template. 264 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:42,240 Speaker 3: But you know, so does the banchies fit that it 265 00:13:42,400 --> 00:13:43,920 Speaker 3: was UK produced? 266 00:13:44,320 --> 00:13:46,200 Speaker 2: But I mean it's an Ireland movie. 267 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:48,880 Speaker 3: A problem is the baft has went for Austin Butler, 268 00:13:48,920 --> 00:13:52,000 Speaker 3: and that's where everything started steaming in. The BAFT has 269 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:54,959 Speaker 3: got Austin Butler for Elvis A twenty four is the 270 00:13:55,360 --> 00:13:58,280 Speaker 3: is an American production company. Brendan Fraser is from Indiana, 271 00:13:58,400 --> 00:14:01,320 Speaker 3: so there's none of this British influence going on with 272 00:14:01,480 --> 00:14:04,160 Speaker 3: Best Actor going on here. And by the way, Brenda 273 00:14:04,240 --> 00:14:07,880 Speaker 3: Fraser is not Estonian. He is American. He's from Indiana. 274 00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:10,600 Speaker 3: He's not the Encino man. You don't think he's not 275 00:14:10,600 --> 00:14:14,480 Speaker 3: from Estonia. But listen, experts give Butler a fifty percent shot. 276 00:14:14,760 --> 00:14:16,480 Speaker 3: You add in the fact that the editors it's a 277 00:14:16,520 --> 00:14:20,320 Speaker 3: fifty six percent shot. The pick is Austin Butler. Anything 278 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:24,120 Speaker 3: that's plus money, you are. I'm hammering this to minus 279 00:14:24,160 --> 00:14:28,160 Speaker 3: one twenty five. I have been limited. I have been 280 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:32,000 Speaker 3: This is my biggest wager of the entire podcast, is 281 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:35,080 Speaker 3: Austin Butler to win Best Actor for Elvis. 282 00:14:35,520 --> 00:14:36,160 Speaker 2: I will keep. 283 00:14:36,040 --> 00:14:37,680 Speaker 3: Pounding this till it's minus one twenty five. 284 00:14:38,640 --> 00:14:40,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, this is one of my favorite bets on the 285 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:46,160 Speaker 2: board as well, with Austin Butler. He is plus one 286 00:14:46,200 --> 00:14:50,360 Speaker 2: twenty at Fandel and I agree he should be the favorite. 287 00:14:50,360 --> 00:14:51,920 Speaker 2: It won't be on Sunday he won't be all be 288 00:14:52,240 --> 00:14:54,600 Speaker 2: He should be the favorite. He won the Golden Globe 289 00:14:54,640 --> 00:14:57,640 Speaker 2: and a bath. The Fraser did get the critics choice 290 00:14:57,640 --> 00:15:00,760 Speaker 2: and the sag. But again, you have at gold Derby 291 00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:03,880 Speaker 2: and they're you know, the experts and editors are in 292 00:15:03,960 --> 00:15:06,760 Speaker 2: favor of Butler of you know, eighty one percent at 293 00:15:06,800 --> 00:15:10,600 Speaker 2: the time that number one gold Derby choice wins and 294 00:15:10,640 --> 00:15:13,160 Speaker 2: the only other you know, the other two times. The 295 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:15,600 Speaker 2: other times it's been the number two guy. So I 296 00:15:15,600 --> 00:15:17,880 Speaker 2: think Farrell, even though you know, I thought he was 297 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:22,200 Speaker 2: really good in Banshees, I don't think he's going to 298 00:15:22,440 --> 00:15:25,280 Speaker 2: uh to take that one home. So I think Butler 299 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:29,360 Speaker 2: should be a decent favorite here, probably about sixty to 300 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:31,800 Speaker 2: seventy percent favorite, probably two out of every three times 301 00:15:31,800 --> 00:15:34,040 Speaker 2: I would say he wins. So I'd probably go even 302 00:15:34,080 --> 00:15:36,600 Speaker 2: higher than than the minus one twenty five. I probably 303 00:15:36,640 --> 00:15:38,360 Speaker 2: go again in any one of those if you're if 304 00:15:38,400 --> 00:15:40,880 Speaker 2: you're under minus two hundred, I'd be fine with it. 305 00:15:41,680 --> 00:15:43,880 Speaker 2: I think I also think there's a little bit of 306 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:48,440 Speaker 2: controversy working against Fraser, you know, you know, rocking the 307 00:15:48,480 --> 00:15:51,080 Speaker 2: fat suit. There were some suit yeah they were, and 308 00:15:51,080 --> 00:15:53,120 Speaker 2: they were saying, hey, why didn't why didn't you guys 309 00:15:53,160 --> 00:15:56,880 Speaker 2: just give the role to a more overweight actor, you know, rather, 310 00:15:56,920 --> 00:15:59,160 Speaker 2: you know, so there's there were just a lot of uh, 311 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:00,520 Speaker 2: you know, kind of. 312 00:16:00,560 --> 00:16:03,080 Speaker 3: Know why, you know why, because no overweight actor has 313 00:16:03,080 --> 00:16:04,240 Speaker 3: Brendan Fraser's. 314 00:16:03,880 --> 00:16:04,920 Speaker 2: Boy exactly exactly. 315 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:08,280 Speaker 3: Yea, he reads when he reads his daughter's poetry and 316 00:16:08,360 --> 00:16:13,720 Speaker 3: her work. It's just Brendan Fraser's voice was so mesmerizing. 317 00:16:13,920 --> 00:16:16,120 Speaker 3: And that's why I bet it immediately. But I am 318 00:16:16,160 --> 00:16:19,640 Speaker 3: saying right now that I've seen the experts, the editors, 319 00:16:19,800 --> 00:16:22,280 Speaker 3: Butler is an underdog. He shouldn't be an underdog. Don't 320 00:16:22,280 --> 00:16:24,120 Speaker 3: get wrapped up in the fact. And for You're right, 321 00:16:24,160 --> 00:16:26,360 Speaker 3: Fraser is getting a lot of hate from people in 322 00:16:26,400 --> 00:16:29,160 Speaker 3: the industry because of the fat suit, which is terrible. 323 00:16:29,440 --> 00:16:31,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, we and we have the fact that I mean 324 00:16:31,560 --> 00:16:33,600 Speaker 2: just kind of wittle things I think also kind of 325 00:16:33,720 --> 00:16:37,000 Speaker 2: break toward Butler, like you know, Fraser essentially, and this 326 00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:38,280 Speaker 2: is you know, you could kind of look at it 327 00:16:38,320 --> 00:16:40,320 Speaker 2: both ways. But he was in the same spot the 328 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:42,760 Speaker 2: whole entire movie for for more or less except a 329 00:16:42,800 --> 00:16:45,880 Speaker 2: couple of times. A couple of times, and then Butler 330 00:16:45,920 --> 00:16:49,240 Speaker 2: actually did some of his singing in the Elvis movie, 331 00:16:49,280 --> 00:16:51,200 Speaker 2: not all of it, but he did. He did do 332 00:16:51,280 --> 00:16:53,720 Speaker 2: some and they kind of mixed with the old Elvis vocals. 333 00:16:53,760 --> 00:16:55,840 Speaker 2: But I think that, you know, you know that he 334 00:16:55,920 --> 00:16:58,560 Speaker 2: was kind of doing some of his own performative, you 335 00:16:58,600 --> 00:17:00,760 Speaker 2: know stuff in that movie. I think I should get him, 336 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:03,000 Speaker 2: get him. That was Actually it's it's been a big 337 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:04,600 Speaker 2: deal in the past. It's been a big deal. 338 00:17:04,480 --> 00:17:06,359 Speaker 3: When you sing your own music in the past, and 339 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:08,360 Speaker 3: if you don't sing your own music, it's it's gone 340 00:17:08,359 --> 00:17:11,040 Speaker 3: against you. So you know, don't get me started on 341 00:17:11,080 --> 00:17:13,119 Speaker 3: Bradley Cooper and Lady Gaga. 342 00:17:12,320 --> 00:17:15,240 Speaker 2: I still have some tickets out. 343 00:17:15,119 --> 00:17:18,240 Speaker 3: There that didn't win getting that movie to the to 344 00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:18,879 Speaker 3: the to the counter. 345 00:17:18,920 --> 00:17:22,439 Speaker 2: But yeah, yeah, singing your own stuff, big deal. All right, 346 00:17:22,520 --> 00:17:27,320 Speaker 2: let's go to Best Original Screenplay. The nominees are everything Everywhere, 347 00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:30,280 Speaker 2: all at once at minus one fifty Banchees of Vina 348 00:17:30,359 --> 00:17:34,639 Speaker 2: Sharon at even money, which is just plus one hundred 349 00:17:34,720 --> 00:17:38,320 Speaker 2: or one, you know, one to one. The Fableman's Tar 350 00:17:38,760 --> 00:17:42,879 Speaker 2: and Triangle of Sadness round out the nominees. All of 351 00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:46,119 Speaker 2: them are twenty three to one or more. So this 352 00:17:46,200 --> 00:17:51,920 Speaker 2: is another two film race, and I'm curious to get 353 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:55,679 Speaker 2: your thoughts on this because I have I have, I 354 00:17:55,720 --> 00:17:57,800 Speaker 2: have a thought as to how I think this is 355 00:17:57,840 --> 00:17:59,840 Speaker 2: going to go. But but I think both of them 356 00:17:59,880 --> 00:18:01,959 Speaker 2: are worthy. But what are your thoughts on which one 357 00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:04,040 Speaker 2: you do like more? Which one you think is gonna win? Yeah? 358 00:18:04,080 --> 00:18:07,040 Speaker 3: I think everything, every everything, everything, everywhere, all at once 359 00:18:07,160 --> 00:18:09,560 Speaker 3: is going to win. But I've loaded all my money 360 00:18:09,600 --> 00:18:11,439 Speaker 3: into Best Picture, and I think, but I think you 361 00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:13,320 Speaker 3: need to kind of sort it out for everybody. If 362 00:18:13,400 --> 00:18:15,800 Speaker 3: you love that movie to win Best Picture, do you 363 00:18:15,880 --> 00:18:17,400 Speaker 3: hedge a little bit and put some of that money 364 00:18:17,400 --> 00:18:20,399 Speaker 3: here because the price is better? What is the better 365 00:18:20,600 --> 00:18:22,800 Speaker 3: I mean, gamble, what is the better investment. I'm not 366 00:18:22,880 --> 00:18:25,960 Speaker 3: here to lose tickets. I'm not here just to generally gamble. 367 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:27,480 Speaker 3: I want to know what's the best value and it 368 00:18:27,560 --> 00:18:29,480 Speaker 3: minus one fifty if it's gonna win Best Picture, which 369 00:18:29,520 --> 00:18:31,639 Speaker 3: you and I have already decided that it is. Should 370 00:18:31,680 --> 00:18:33,600 Speaker 3: I be putting money into this Let's say I got 371 00:18:33,600 --> 00:18:35,199 Speaker 3: a hundred dollars. Should we be putting fifty into this 372 00:18:35,240 --> 00:18:38,400 Speaker 3: category and fifty into you know, Best Picture? You let 373 00:18:38,440 --> 00:18:40,920 Speaker 3: me know, because that's where I struggled with this. Right, 374 00:18:41,160 --> 00:18:42,600 Speaker 3: is this the price point I want to buy? Or 375 00:18:42,720 --> 00:18:44,119 Speaker 3: is it Best Picture. That's where I was. 376 00:18:45,240 --> 00:18:47,720 Speaker 2: I think you can. I think if you really like 377 00:18:47,800 --> 00:18:50,040 Speaker 2: this movie, and this is this is why I struggle 378 00:18:50,080 --> 00:18:52,600 Speaker 2: with this, and I think I'm going I think I 379 00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:57,040 Speaker 2: go Banchi's here number one. I think Banchie is if 380 00:18:57,040 --> 00:19:00,760 Speaker 2: there's anywhere where it does beat everything everywhere, because I 381 00:19:00,760 --> 00:19:02,680 Speaker 2: do think they're they're They're a lot closer than maybe 382 00:19:02,720 --> 00:19:06,520 Speaker 2: odds would say. But I do think the Banshee Screenplayer 383 00:19:06,600 --> 00:19:09,280 Speaker 2: is just amazing. It was just so simple but yet 384 00:19:09,320 --> 00:19:12,600 Speaker 2: so like profound and just it was just it was 385 00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:17,000 Speaker 2: perfect like so. But but that being said, the fact 386 00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:20,320 Speaker 2: that you know, as for for as many nominations and 387 00:19:20,359 --> 00:19:25,000 Speaker 2: as much momentum as everything everywhere all at once has 388 00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:29,480 Speaker 2: for it to still just be minus one fifty, uh, 389 00:19:29,560 --> 00:19:32,600 Speaker 2: you know, to win this award kind of tells you that, 390 00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:35,240 Speaker 2: you know, it's not really like this might be one 391 00:19:35,240 --> 00:19:37,080 Speaker 2: of the ones where they try to recognize another film. 392 00:19:37,359 --> 00:19:40,760 Speaker 2: And when I look at Banshee's, I don't know where 393 00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:42,960 Speaker 2: else it's gonna win. But I think it's the second 394 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:46,879 Speaker 2: best movie of the year, and so I think I 395 00:19:46,920 --> 00:19:50,480 Speaker 2: think just knowing how like they like, like you said, 396 00:19:50,520 --> 00:19:54,040 Speaker 2: most people aren't putting everything everywhere below two on that 397 00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:56,639 Speaker 2: on their exactly both. So I think this might be 398 00:19:56,640 --> 00:19:59,040 Speaker 2: one where they say kind of like me, I'm like, hey, 399 00:19:59,040 --> 00:20:02,040 Speaker 2: it could be either one. Let's give Banshees it here, 400 00:20:03,080 --> 00:20:05,800 Speaker 2: you know, because it's probably not gonna get recognized anywhere else, 401 00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:07,480 Speaker 2: and we do want it to get recognized. And also, 402 00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:11,200 Speaker 2: you know, the gold Derby experts their number one choice 403 00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:13,800 Speaker 2: ninety one percent of the time it is one that's 404 00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:17,320 Speaker 2: Banchee's sixty four percent to thirty eight percent, gold Derby 405 00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:20,800 Speaker 2: experts are saying Banche's. So I'm gonna I'm gonna roll 406 00:20:20,840 --> 00:20:25,119 Speaker 2: with them and I'll take ban Che's, you know, anything 407 00:20:25,680 --> 00:20:30,760 Speaker 2: up to about minus one's fifty. I think Banchie should 408 00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:33,159 Speaker 2: be the favorite. I'm rolling with the experts here, and 409 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:37,240 Speaker 2: I just think screenplay wise only, I think that's where 410 00:20:37,280 --> 00:20:41,640 Speaker 2: Banchie's really really excelled. So I do and and and 411 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:45,520 Speaker 2: and that also kind of again it goes into, you know, 412 00:20:47,160 --> 00:20:49,160 Speaker 2: the best picture thing, because I again, I really think 413 00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:50,879 Speaker 2: Banchie's is the second field, and I don't think it 414 00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:52,439 Speaker 2: I don't really think it has a great chance anyone. 415 00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:54,480 Speaker 2: And I think the odds in this case, like you said, 416 00:20:54,520 --> 00:20:56,280 Speaker 2: are just kind of telling us something like it's like 417 00:20:56,359 --> 00:20:58,840 Speaker 2: it's for as much love as everything everywhere is getting 418 00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:01,360 Speaker 2: for it to just be minus fifty, that's a tell. 419 00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:04,639 Speaker 2: So yeah, I like, I like Banchees here, uh, and 420 00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:06,440 Speaker 2: that you still agree with money. 421 00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:08,560 Speaker 3: You still agree with me that for best picture, though, 422 00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:12,200 Speaker 3: the money goes into everything everywhere right here is where 423 00:21:12,280 --> 00:21:13,360 Speaker 3: you take a chance. 424 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:16,880 Speaker 2: Yes if you're yeah, yeah, exactly, because because ban Cheese 425 00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:19,240 Speaker 2: is number two in both, I think this one is 426 00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:22,800 Speaker 2: a much more like we win, you know, than than 427 00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:25,919 Speaker 2: than best picture, you know, best picture. Everything everywhere is 428 00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:31,200 Speaker 2: so strong across the board that it would be hard 429 00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:34,040 Speaker 2: to lose it, even though I think banchees can you know, 430 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:36,560 Speaker 2: there's none really you can knock with Banshees. It's just 431 00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:38,960 Speaker 2: it was there was just less of it. It would just shorter, meve, 432 00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:40,520 Speaker 2: I think it was under two hours, you know. It's 433 00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:42,080 Speaker 2: just it's just one of those kind of things. But 434 00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:45,600 Speaker 2: screenplay wise, I mean I made sure to watch all 435 00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:48,199 Speaker 2: these where I could, with the with subtitles on if 436 00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:50,080 Speaker 2: I if I stream them, and so I'm looking at 437 00:21:50,119 --> 00:21:52,720 Speaker 2: the screenplays for that exact reason, and like ban Chees 438 00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:55,560 Speaker 2: is just great, man, I mean, just you know, you 439 00:21:55,640 --> 00:21:57,920 Speaker 2: always call them saying like I just don't like you anymore, 440 00:21:57,960 --> 00:21:58,680 Speaker 2: like you know, like. 441 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:03,439 Speaker 3: Trust me as a guy that watches Christopher nolan movies 442 00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:08,200 Speaker 3: three dozen times. Subtitles are so important into the votes here, 443 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:10,560 Speaker 3: and like understanding we're a movie what the director is 444 00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:12,879 Speaker 3: trying to get across from the words that he was given. So, 445 00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:15,800 Speaker 3: uh yeah, I agree with you. Banche's I like this here. 446 00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:16,520 Speaker 3: Let's take a shot. 447 00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:20,639 Speaker 2: So Banche's at quest one hundred. All right, we got 448 00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:25,880 Speaker 2: Best adapt the Screenplay. Up next, the nominees, Women Talking 449 00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:28,959 Speaker 2: minus two forty is the front runner. All Quiet on 450 00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:32,720 Speaker 2: the Western Front. It's plus one fifty five. Glass Onion, 451 00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:36,960 Speaker 2: Top Gun, Maverick, and Living are all long shots at 452 00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:40,480 Speaker 2: twenty three one, twenty nine, thirty four to one, respectively. 453 00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:42,560 Speaker 2: What do you think about this category? 454 00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:45,240 Speaker 3: Well, I want to step out and we're going to 455 00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:47,040 Speaker 3: talk about this later in the pod. I want to 456 00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:51,560 Speaker 3: step out of the mold, the template, the blueprint, the stats, 457 00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:54,040 Speaker 3: the editors, the experts and everywhere, and I just want 458 00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:57,520 Speaker 3: to say, when is Tom Cruise's movie going to get 459 00:22:57,520 --> 00:22:59,080 Speaker 3: in an award? When is he When is when is 460 00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:00,760 Speaker 3: that going to get their actlades? When are they going 461 00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:04,240 Speaker 3: to be talked about where in this show are are 462 00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:07,200 Speaker 3: they going? This movie was pushed off for COVID reasons, 463 00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:11,120 Speaker 3: and then it finally comes out and the goddamn movie's excellent. 464 00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:15,960 Speaker 3: The movie is excellent. We're flying with Goose's kid. We're 465 00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:20,399 Speaker 3: taking down super planes that are like you know what 466 00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:23,119 Speaker 3: I mean, I cat and he survives. Maverick survives and 467 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:25,240 Speaker 3: Goose's kid saves him, and then they're f fifteen. It's 468 00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:27,399 Speaker 3: nineteen eighty five, and holy shit, we're back on the 469 00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:28,600 Speaker 3: beach playing football again. 470 00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:31,160 Speaker 2: This is the best. And Jennifer Connelly's in it. 471 00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:33,640 Speaker 3: For all of us that love Jennifer Conley growing up, 472 00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:35,159 Speaker 3: Jennifer Conley's in it. 473 00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:36,240 Speaker 2: Tom Cruise is in it. 474 00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:38,280 Speaker 3: This is a great movie. So the question is is 475 00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:41,320 Speaker 3: when do I get my money in? I think there's 476 00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:44,720 Speaker 3: another spot. We'll talk about it later. Little money, twenty 477 00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:48,119 Speaker 3: five dollars, thirty five dollars, no more than fifty dollars, give. 478 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:52,200 Speaker 2: Me twenty nine to one. I'm Maverick Ooh yeah, man, 479 00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:57,680 Speaker 2: I mean there is another category. I do think Top 480 00:23:57,720 --> 00:23:59,840 Speaker 2: Guy's moving in. I was. I was surprised how good 481 00:23:59,880 --> 00:24:01,360 Speaker 2: it was. I mean, what is that thirty six years 482 00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:05,040 Speaker 2: between the first one. It was very good. The Tom 483 00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:08,399 Speaker 2: Cruse football seat the worst see in the movie. But 484 00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:14,000 Speaker 2: it's dead. It's gotta win somewhere. Chris is dead. I 485 00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:15,960 Speaker 2: think I think it's gonna give best sound. I think 486 00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:19,560 Speaker 2: it's gonna give best sound. You know for this this one. 487 00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:21,840 Speaker 2: The only reason I don't I don't hate you for 488 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:25,560 Speaker 2: for going with a long shot is because you know, 489 00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:32,119 Speaker 2: Women Talking is the favorite. The oscars are mostly still 490 00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:37,560 Speaker 2: still skew met male heavy, right, Yes, I just wonder 491 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:39,840 Speaker 2: if this is another one of those movies that could 492 00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:43,240 Speaker 2: get lost and and maybe get beat out. You know, 493 00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:45,200 Speaker 2: as I was watching it, I thought the screenplay was 494 00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:48,840 Speaker 2: pretty good. But it's interesting because when you look at 495 00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:52,320 Speaker 2: the you know, like the writers Guild all Quiet on 496 00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:57,040 Speaker 2: the Western Front, which is his biggest competitor, it wasn't eligible. 497 00:24:57,280 --> 00:25:00,119 Speaker 2: So Women Talking one of the Writers Guild. U it 498 00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:05,560 Speaker 2: won at the critics Choice after one of the Quiet Yeah. Yeah, right. 499 00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:08,439 Speaker 2: So it's really like when you look at the Gold Derby, 500 00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:11,960 Speaker 2: editors are at fifty experts are at fifty six percent. 501 00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:14,400 Speaker 2: Editors are at fifty four percent. So what that tells 502 00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:16,560 Speaker 2: us is that it should be a favorite, but it 503 00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:19,280 Speaker 2: should be more like a minus one twenty five favorite, 504 00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:22,880 Speaker 2: not not a you know, minus two forty favorite. So 505 00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:28,560 Speaker 2: this category we could see an upset. All Quiet is 506 00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:32,320 Speaker 2: also kind of overvalued just based on this. So I 507 00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:34,640 Speaker 2: don't hate I don't hate you for taking a top gun. 508 00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:38,119 Speaker 2: There is a couple of editors and or an expert 509 00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:40,240 Speaker 2: and editor on gold Derby that that's that is picking 510 00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:43,280 Speaker 2: top gun. So I think if you are going to 511 00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:45,040 Speaker 2: go off the board, that's the movie. 512 00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:47,560 Speaker 3: We haven't said this yet, and we've talked about we 513 00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:49,560 Speaker 3: talked about this is our fourth time we've done the 514 00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:52,840 Speaker 3: Academy Awards podcast. We talked about the voter base increasing 515 00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:55,080 Speaker 3: from seven thousand nine thousand, and they want to be 516 00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:59,360 Speaker 3: all inclusive. They want the show to be more of everything, 517 00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:02,119 Speaker 3: which thanks to a fresh Prince of bel Air, we 518 00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:07,160 Speaker 3: got a lot of everything last year. But what I'm 519 00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:09,359 Speaker 3: saying is is there is a group of people in 520 00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:11,639 Speaker 3: this voting base of nine thousand plus that's going to 521 00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:12,679 Speaker 3: vote women talking. 522 00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:15,320 Speaker 2: No matter what. And then you have to where are 523 00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:17,360 Speaker 2: the neutral votes going to fall? Right? 524 00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:19,040 Speaker 3: Are they going to go glass onion? Are they going 525 00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:20,399 Speaker 3: to go all quiet? They're not going to go with 526 00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:23,080 Speaker 3: the British movie. This voting base is not going to 527 00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:25,920 Speaker 3: go with the British movie, which wasn't you know it 528 00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:29,520 Speaker 3: was ineligible. Where are the neutral votes going to fall 529 00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:33,399 Speaker 3: because a guy's guy is going to vote for top Gun. Yeah, 530 00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:35,800 Speaker 3: the women talking base is going to vote for women talking. 531 00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:38,480 Speaker 3: So now you have to ask about the neutral vote. 532 00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:42,400 Speaker 3: And this is still a male voting base big time. 533 00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:44,960 Speaker 3: And I think this is a good a good place 534 00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:47,800 Speaker 3: to take a big underdog. And I think Top Gun 535 00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:50,960 Speaker 3: somewhere somewhere, there's little sprinkles of Top Gun everywhere. 536 00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:54,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I think Top Gun is the right long shot. 537 00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:56,040 Speaker 2: This is probably a stay away from me because again 538 00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:59,919 Speaker 2: I think women Talking takes it because we did have 539 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:04,040 Speaker 2: of that movie well, a promising young woman I think 540 00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:06,160 Speaker 2: it was you Last Year of the Year before, kind 541 00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:09,960 Speaker 2: of a similar theme to that movie, and it did 542 00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:11,920 Speaker 2: one and it did win. It did win for screenplay, 543 00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:14,200 Speaker 2: not for it got upset an actress, but it did 544 00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:17,119 Speaker 2: win screenplay. So that does give me some hope for 545 00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:19,800 Speaker 2: women talking. I think it's likely, but I just think 546 00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:23,120 Speaker 2: you're paying too much for it. So yeah, I think 547 00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:25,800 Speaker 2: this is kind of like a women talking or like 548 00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:28,040 Speaker 2: a stay away or just go long shot here with 549 00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:33,920 Speaker 2: Top fun Best Supporting Actress the nominees and this one, 550 00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:36,679 Speaker 2: this one is wide open. So we got Andla Bassett 551 00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:40,440 Speaker 2: from Black Panther with Conda Forever at plus one thirties, 552 00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:43,640 Speaker 2: which automatically tells you there's not even a favorite better 553 00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:46,800 Speaker 2: than fifty to fifty. According to the books, Jamie Wee 554 00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:49,639 Speaker 2: Curtis from Everything Everywhere, All at Once is plus one 555 00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:53,119 Speaker 2: sixty five. Kerry Condon from The Banshees and The Sharon 556 00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:57,160 Speaker 2: is plus one seventy five. Then we got Hon Chow 557 00:27:57,480 --> 00:28:01,320 Speaker 2: and Stephanie Jou and there both four to one long shots. 558 00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:04,800 Speaker 2: Stephanie was actually like, she deserves better than this. I 559 00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:07,560 Speaker 2: thought she was really good, but she hasn't been get 560 00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:10,080 Speaker 2: in love in this cycle. But so I think it's 561 00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:14,800 Speaker 2: a three three women race that looks like anyway. Bassett, Curtis, Condon, 562 00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:17,479 Speaker 2: what are you thinking? Well, let me just get this 563 00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:17,960 Speaker 2: out of the way. 564 00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:19,920 Speaker 3: I'm in my mid forties, and if you're in your 565 00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:22,320 Speaker 3: mid forties, Jamie Lee Curtis was a really big deal 566 00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:25,520 Speaker 3: at twelve years old. I'll leave it at that in 567 00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:27,879 Speaker 3: this category Best Supporting Actress. What is the template for 568 00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:29,240 Speaker 3: betting upsets? 569 00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:30,160 Speaker 2: Happen here. 570 00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:32,399 Speaker 3: They happen a lot. You want to look for somebody 571 00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:35,320 Speaker 3: extremely young, or you want somebody over sixty. That has 572 00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:39,200 Speaker 3: generally been the template over the years. Jamie Lee Curtis 573 00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:43,120 Speaker 3: won the Sag Kerrie Condon Bafta. If those two aligned, 574 00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:46,000 Speaker 3: it's a winner. But that's not what happened. The BAFTAs 575 00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:47,880 Speaker 3: and the SAgs went in different directions. 576 00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:49,280 Speaker 2: Editor. 577 00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:51,400 Speaker 3: You know Condon, if you look at the Gold Deerby, 578 00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:52,800 Speaker 3: like we go to the Gold Derby and we look 579 00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:55,920 Speaker 3: at the number of votes right and from an editor perspective, 580 00:28:56,000 --> 00:29:00,480 Speaker 3: Condon had seven versus Angela Bassett's four versus Jamielee Curtis two. 581 00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:03,000 Speaker 3: We can't bet Jamie Lee Curtis. If you look at 582 00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:07,040 Speaker 3: the experts, Angela Bassett Hi thirteen votes versus Condon seven, 583 00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:11,560 Speaker 3: Jamie Lee Curtis down at four. Damn experts, Editors. You 584 00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:14,000 Speaker 3: put it together, they have Angela Bassett and at forty 585 00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:17,960 Speaker 3: six percent to me, that's a minus one seventeen Condon 586 00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:21,080 Speaker 3: thirty eight percent, that's a plus one sixty five. So 587 00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:24,360 Speaker 3: at plus two hundred, I'm betting Condon. I'm betting it 588 00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:26,280 Speaker 3: down to plus one sixty that's going to be my 589 00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:28,000 Speaker 3: pick for Best Supporting Actors. 590 00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:31,400 Speaker 2: So I actually like I went back and forth, done 591 00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:34,640 Speaker 2: this a lot. Yeah, I'm back at Bassett and here's 592 00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:36,000 Speaker 2: here's why. Wait a minute, wait a minute. 593 00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:38,000 Speaker 3: Can we talk about the Marvel perspective, like, this is 594 00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:42,280 Speaker 3: the first time Ahor from Marvel has been nominated. Yeah, 595 00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:45,920 Speaker 3: and there are people like Martin Scorsese that hate Marvel movies. 596 00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:50,560 Speaker 3: And there's in the industry We've talked about this year's past, Netflix, 597 00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:53,280 Speaker 3: Apple TV. Is there a bias against them because of 598 00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:56,800 Speaker 3: what they are? They're killing the industry? Martin Scorsese says 599 00:29:56,840 --> 00:29:59,080 Speaker 3: that movies are now theme. 600 00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:00,000 Speaker 2: Parks with Marvel movie. 601 00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:03,080 Speaker 3: This is the first time an actor from a Marvel 602 00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:04,440 Speaker 3: movie has been nominated. 603 00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:08,520 Speaker 2: Yeah. No, it's definitely an impediment. And I think that's 604 00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:11,000 Speaker 2: why you're seeing I think that's why you're seeing the 605 00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:13,400 Speaker 2: plus one third. You know, she's not a favorite, even 606 00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:15,440 Speaker 2: though she like she's a favorite, but she's not even 607 00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:17,560 Speaker 2: fifty to fifty. But I think the fact that she 608 00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:20,720 Speaker 2: even got nominated tells you people are coming around. But 609 00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:24,000 Speaker 2: it is a tough one. The way I'm looking at 610 00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:29,280 Speaker 2: it from the numbers perspective, is that gold Derby eleven years. 611 00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:32,600 Speaker 2: They've been tracking this. While there's been upsets in the 612 00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:36,560 Speaker 2: general market, the gold Derby number one has won every 613 00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:40,760 Speaker 2: single time, every single time. Now the issue is gold 614 00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:46,520 Speaker 2: Derby's never disagreed before this year. You know, they disagree 615 00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:51,440 Speaker 2: within the categories, but overall Bassett is number one. So like, 616 00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:54,800 Speaker 2: if you look at it from that perspective, combined odds, 617 00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:58,040 Speaker 2: gold Derby number one has never lost. That's still Bassett. 618 00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:01,000 Speaker 2: She's also getting fifty six percent of X, which experts 619 00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:03,080 Speaker 2: tend to be the most. They have the largest sample 620 00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:05,920 Speaker 2: size and editors about about three times as many experts 621 00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:09,040 Speaker 2: as there are editors two to three depending on who submits. 622 00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:11,440 Speaker 2: So that's why I'm kind of back at Bassett and 623 00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:15,080 Speaker 2: the fact that I'm still getting plus money on on 624 00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:18,040 Speaker 2: the fun which is the favorite. I got asked because 625 00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:20,680 Speaker 2: I like Condon too. I would go to anything. I 626 00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:22,560 Speaker 2: would go to anything plus money with Bassetts, so like, 627 00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:26,000 Speaker 2: once it gets even money, I'm out, yep, Okay. 628 00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:27,760 Speaker 3: So I mean, because I think there's gonna be steam 629 00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:29,520 Speaker 3: on game day, so we need to set price points. 630 00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:31,040 Speaker 2: I did buy plus two hundred. 631 00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:33,120 Speaker 3: I see plus one seventy five at FanDuel I'm still 632 00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:36,960 Speaker 3: buying Condon to about plus one sixty and if there's 633 00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:40,880 Speaker 3: steam on Bassett, like I'm done. We're saying any plus money, right, 634 00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:41,120 Speaker 3: is that? 635 00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:42,880 Speaker 2: Is that back for me for Bassett? And then you 636 00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:45,360 Speaker 2: like yeah, yeah, and you like Condon up. 637 00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:48,800 Speaker 3: To plus one sixty Yeah, okay, plus one So there's 638 00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:50,760 Speaker 3: a little bit, a little bit fifteen cents I'd buy 639 00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:51,160 Speaker 3: right now. 640 00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:53,840 Speaker 2: Yeah. And this is kind of the point though, this one, 641 00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:56,520 Speaker 2: it's it is wide open, so it's it's kind of 642 00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:59,800 Speaker 2: depending on your betting style. It's one where you're probably 643 00:31:59,880 --> 00:32:02,080 Speaker 2: the most likely to lose because it's three, but there's 644 00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:04,080 Speaker 2: also this is also the one where you could profit 645 00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:08,040 Speaker 2: the most because everyone's a plus money. So again I'm 646 00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:10,560 Speaker 2: the gold Derby top choice is never lost. That's all 647 00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:12,600 Speaker 2: I'm going bass It's hard for me to choose at 648 00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:14,960 Speaker 2: Marble though, you're going to get on the market train. Though. 649 00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:18,000 Speaker 2: In terms of the performances, I mean, I thought it's 650 00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:20,959 Speaker 2: it's close. It's just everywhere is close enough for me. 651 00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:23,440 Speaker 3: I thought Hang Chow was out of all the performances. 652 00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:25,720 Speaker 3: I thought her supporting Brandon Fraser in the Whale was 653 00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:26,840 Speaker 3: a great performance for her. 654 00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:28,520 Speaker 2: I mean, she was sassy. 655 00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:31,320 Speaker 3: She's I mean, she is the only reason that he 656 00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:34,200 Speaker 3: has the food that like. And I'm sad for me 657 00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:36,680 Speaker 3: to see her at thirty four to one because without 658 00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:37,960 Speaker 3: her that movie doesn't happen. 659 00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:40,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I kind of feel the same way 660 00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:43,640 Speaker 2: about Stephanie Zu from everything everywhere. I really liked her 661 00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:49,120 Speaker 2: her in arrow of Jobu, and you know, she's she's 662 00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:53,360 Speaker 2: like a she's a she's a big on you. I mean, honestly, 663 00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:56,080 Speaker 2: I'll probably put a few bucks on Stephanie just because 664 00:32:56,960 --> 00:33:00,680 Speaker 2: so I just I get from an eye te perspective, 665 00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:02,440 Speaker 2: you know, and the fact that the movie has been 666 00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:05,040 Speaker 2: getting so much love. I don't hate it. But at 667 00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:07,600 Speaker 2: the same time, she has no precursors. So, like I said, 668 00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:09,720 Speaker 2: it's just there's a reason she's thirty four to one. 669 00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:12,160 Speaker 3: But let me tell you what you allowed me to 670 00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:14,800 Speaker 3: go of a long time on Maverick. I'm gonna throw 671 00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:17,680 Speaker 3: twenty five dollars on Stephanie here and we won't talk 672 00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:20,200 Speaker 3: about it again. We get our hopes up on actress 673 00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:21,640 Speaker 3: and we lose a big shot again. 674 00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:24,880 Speaker 2: I mean, it is one of those where you know, 675 00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:28,520 Speaker 2: to your point, there's could be a vote split here 676 00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:31,800 Speaker 2: where that it can create a lot of variants, so 677 00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:34,760 Speaker 2: you know that, just kind of keep that in mind, 678 00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:38,800 Speaker 2: all right. Supporting actor, we got Chief Week Kwan from 679 00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:43,400 Speaker 2: Everything Everywhere, all at once, Big Favorite minus two thousand, 680 00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:46,800 Speaker 2: Barry Coogan fourteen to one from Banchees of Inn Sharon, 681 00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:50,680 Speaker 2: Brendan Guison eighteen to one from Banchees of Inn Sharon, 682 00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:55,480 Speaker 2: and then jud hirsh and Brian Tyree, Henry Chaps Atlanta 683 00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:58,560 Speaker 2: loved that show. He's got it for Causeway, but he's 684 00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:00,640 Speaker 2: forty two to one and Hirsch thirty four to one. 685 00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:03,920 Speaker 2: They aren't gonna win. This is all about about Kihi Kwan, 686 00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:08,880 Speaker 2: right right, Like there's not much to say here. Yeah 687 00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:11,120 Speaker 2: that well, I will say a little bit something. 688 00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:14,880 Speaker 3: So the rule for best supporting actor is older actors, 689 00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:17,879 Speaker 3: lifetime achievements. You think last year with Coda, with Troy 690 00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:20,560 Speaker 3: Kuotzer and what he's did, and Cody, think Brad Pitt 691 00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:23,240 Speaker 3: once upon a time, You think JK. Simmons with Whiplash, 692 00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:26,880 Speaker 3: Morgan Freeman and Tim Robbins won this and it wasn't Shawshank. 693 00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:30,640 Speaker 3: That's another thing that amazes me about this. Twenty three 694 00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:34,520 Speaker 3: of twenty four Gold Derby experts on Key Qui Kwan 695 00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:38,319 Speaker 3: and if you don't know that name, you do know him. 696 00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:40,920 Speaker 3: Like I said, I'm a male in my mid forties. 697 00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:43,840 Speaker 3: This is data from Goonies, and the second you hear 698 00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:48,239 Speaker 3: that voice and everything everywhere all at once, you recognize 699 00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:51,239 Speaker 3: it immediately as somebody that watched the Goonies. He is 700 00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:54,640 Speaker 3: the roadmap to this movie. He is the biggest part 701 00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:58,879 Speaker 3: of this movie. His performance is amazing. I am so 702 00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:01,560 Speaker 3: happy to see him turn to the screen. It gives 703 00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:03,399 Speaker 3: you a level of comfort, It gives you a level 704 00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:06,280 Speaker 3: of warmth because you're familiar with this character, You're familiar 705 00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:09,719 Speaker 3: with this voice, and you trusted and this is a 706 00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:12,319 Speaker 3: home run pick. I think minus two thousand and short. 707 00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:14,800 Speaker 3: I think you're buying this up to minus five thousand 708 00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:16,640 Speaker 3: per the gold Derby experts and editors. 709 00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:18,759 Speaker 2: I doubt many people on this pot listening to this 710 00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:22,000 Speaker 2: are gonna actually bet at minus two thousand. But yeah, 711 00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:26,240 Speaker 2: he's winning this, He's winning. That's true. That is true. 712 00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:28,800 Speaker 2: This is the bet out of the top eight. I 713 00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:31,160 Speaker 2: would say this is probably the most short thing, even 714 00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:34,319 Speaker 2: more so than the best picture for Everything, every right, 715 00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:36,080 Speaker 2: I think this is the one. There's just there's just 716 00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:40,040 Speaker 2: so much separation here between between Klee Week, Kwon Uh 717 00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:43,640 Speaker 2: and everyone else. So that was the top eight. There 718 00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:45,879 Speaker 2: are obviously a bunch of other categories, and a lot 719 00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:50,400 Speaker 2: of times you do find the best values on some 720 00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:52,960 Speaker 2: of these categories that you know, people probably aren't betting 721 00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:55,319 Speaker 2: as much talking about as much. So I got a 722 00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:59,720 Speaker 2: few here. But the first one is for best Costume Design. 723 00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:04,640 Speaker 2: The nominees are Elvis is the front runner about minus 724 00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:08,080 Speaker 2: one sixty five Black Panthers in their running they're plus 725 00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:10,839 Speaker 2: one eighty five everything everywhere at once it is five 726 00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:13,520 Speaker 2: to one. Uh. And then Missus Harris goes to Paris 727 00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:16,920 Speaker 2: and Babylon there they're big long shots, but I think 728 00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:19,040 Speaker 2: Elvis should be a bigger favorite here. I would bet 729 00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:22,959 Speaker 2: Elvis to minus two thirty. The gold Derby expert number 730 00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:25,640 Speaker 2: one has won ten of eleven, or ninety one percent. 731 00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:29,680 Speaker 2: They that this is the the number one, and uh, 732 00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:33,680 Speaker 2: you know, seventy two percent of the of the experts 733 00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:37,280 Speaker 2: here and are going for Elvis, only twenty four percent 734 00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:43,000 Speaker 2: for Black Panther and four percent for Babylon. You know, Elvis. 735 00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:46,600 Speaker 2: It looks like Elvis to me, So I'm going I 736 00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:49,120 Speaker 2: like this is this is one where I'm betting. I'm 737 00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:51,520 Speaker 2: betting on the chalk, but I think the talk is undervalued, 738 00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:52,520 Speaker 2: and I. 739 00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:54,839 Speaker 3: Think that this is I think this is where if 740 00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:58,319 Speaker 3: you're not comfortable, maybe Austin Butler has steamed too much 741 00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:00,399 Speaker 3: in the best Actor category, maybe the this is where 742 00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:02,960 Speaker 3: you want to hedge and throw some money in. You 743 00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:05,000 Speaker 3: and I have talked about this before. This is our 744 00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:08,280 Speaker 3: fourth annual podcast on the Oscars costume design and makeup. 745 00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:10,440 Speaker 3: They have their own award shows and that's why Elvis 746 00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:12,799 Speaker 3: is getting steamed is because they, you know, dominated in 747 00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:14,880 Speaker 3: the costume designs and the makeup, the government and all 748 00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:18,000 Speaker 3: that other. So this is, to me is a category 749 00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:20,560 Speaker 3: where I'm going to dip in if the best actor 750 00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:22,640 Speaker 3: odds fly on me on game day. 751 00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:26,480 Speaker 2: And you know, speaking of which makeup and airstyle. And 752 00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:30,920 Speaker 2: another one where I like the favorite Elvis minus one fifty, 753 00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:35,640 Speaker 2: the Whale is plus one ten, Batman, Black Panther, Wakan Forever, 754 00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:38,360 Speaker 2: and All Quiet on the Western Front are the long shots. 755 00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:43,400 Speaker 2: But my thinking on this one with Elvis here and 756 00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:46,680 Speaker 2: I'd bet it up to about anything under minus two hundred. 757 00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:50,399 Speaker 2: But you know, the way I was getting some love 758 00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:54,880 Speaker 2: here in this in this category, but look at the 759 00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:59,400 Speaker 2: precursors and it didn't really do much there. It's also 760 00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:01,600 Speaker 2: it's controversial right. 761 00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:04,400 Speaker 3: Again, yes, you know it's they win us with the 762 00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:06,000 Speaker 3: how do you win this with the fat suit? 763 00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:10,000 Speaker 2: Right right right exactly? And so I again I think Elvis, 764 00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:13,560 Speaker 2: you know, it's just like if this, if there was 765 00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:16,719 Speaker 2: a long shot, I think you could see Black Panther, Like, 766 00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:18,600 Speaker 2: I don't hate if you're if you're gonna take the 767 00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:20,759 Speaker 2: favorite in Elvis, if you maybe hedge a tiny bit 768 00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:23,840 Speaker 2: on Black Panther. But again, just kind of looking at 769 00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:25,839 Speaker 2: at all the data we have, it looks like it's 770 00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:28,440 Speaker 2: gonna come down to Elvis versus the Whale. But I 771 00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:31,640 Speaker 2: just again, I think the the industry is going to 772 00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:34,120 Speaker 2: be too split on the Whale. And I don't think 773 00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:38,239 Speaker 2: Black Panther or The Batman, you know, two kind of 774 00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:40,719 Speaker 2: comic book movies, they'll probably split the votes if you 775 00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:43,440 Speaker 2: don't want to vote for the top two, you know, 776 00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:45,960 Speaker 2: so it's really tough for me. I think Elvis it 777 00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:49,000 Speaker 2: might be a closer one than we think. But I 778 00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:51,880 Speaker 2: also think Elvis has like a really high floor uh 779 00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:55,279 Speaker 2: to win. To win this Award. So I'm going Elvis here. 780 00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:57,719 Speaker 2: I think the price minus it's about minus you know, 781 00:38:57,719 --> 00:39:00,200 Speaker 2: one p fifty. That's that's a that's a pretty solid 782 00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:02,360 Speaker 2: price here. Uh for for Elvis. 783 00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:05,200 Speaker 3: It's good to see the Batman get just even mentioned 784 00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:08,000 Speaker 3: on this pod after. You know, Robert Pattinson is one 785 00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:10,880 Speaker 3: of my he is a rising actor. Uh. Someday he 786 00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:12,759 Speaker 3: will be in this category and we will have a 787 00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:15,120 Speaker 3: very longest. I hope he doesn't go up against Adam Driver. 788 00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:17,839 Speaker 3: Shout out to Katie rich Creek, who we love. She's 789 00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:20,359 Speaker 3: a she and I are Adam Driver fans. I hope 790 00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:22,880 Speaker 3: that he doesn't go head to head with Robert Pattinson 791 00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:24,080 Speaker 3: at some point in the future. 792 00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:26,239 Speaker 2: So I got one more one more here, And this 793 00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:29,160 Speaker 2: is a long shot, right, And this is one where 794 00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:32,839 Speaker 2: you've hit this before, you've hit these songs. I think 795 00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:35,000 Speaker 2: so so like and I've been wrong too so but 796 00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:37,000 Speaker 2: here I've learned from being wrong and this is why 797 00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:40,360 Speaker 2: I'm picking this pick. So for Best Original Song, the 798 00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:45,239 Speaker 2: nominees are uh two to two at minus from from 799 00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:47,400 Speaker 2: the movie Are are are minus four thirty. So it's 800 00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:49,640 Speaker 2: big favorite here. It's one pretty much all the precursors. 801 00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:53,440 Speaker 2: We have lift me up from Black Panther, that's Rihanna, 802 00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:56,799 Speaker 2: Hold my hand from top Gun Maverick, that's Lady Gaga. 803 00:39:56,920 --> 00:39:59,040 Speaker 2: And then we have applause from tet like a woman, 804 00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:01,479 Speaker 2: and this is a life from everything, everywhere, all at once. 805 00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:04,520 Speaker 2: Those are big long shots. With me up as plus 806 00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:07,040 Speaker 2: four thirty, hold my hand is plus seven fifty. So 807 00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:09,200 Speaker 2: those are like in the they're in the running, but 808 00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:11,880 Speaker 2: they're they're they're long shots, are just not massive long shots. 809 00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:14,759 Speaker 2: I think I think you gotta go with me up here. 810 00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:17,840 Speaker 2: The reason is I made the mistake of not betting 811 00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:20,759 Speaker 2: on Billie eilish uh and she she wasn't the gold 812 00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:24,359 Speaker 2: Derby favorite, but you know she ended up winning. I'm 813 00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:26,480 Speaker 2: just looking at this like I can't bet against Rihanna, 814 00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:31,279 Speaker 2: like you just you just all time I was there, 815 00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:32,960 Speaker 2: it was. It was dope. I was. I was there 816 00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:36,600 Speaker 2: in person, it was it was amazing. Great great game, 817 00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:40,480 Speaker 2: great great halftime show. This is like Rihanna's only like 818 00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:43,319 Speaker 2: song in like a long time. I'm not betting against 819 00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:46,440 Speaker 2: Rihanna here. The Golden Globe and the Critics Choice Award 820 00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:50,400 Speaker 2: both went to the two to two, but only four 821 00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:53,600 Speaker 2: of the last eleven have won both of those awards. 822 00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:56,120 Speaker 2: So this is one where the precursors dope, necess aren't 823 00:40:56,120 --> 00:41:02,280 Speaker 2: necessarily super predictive. This is like an American Award show. Yep, 824 00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:04,480 Speaker 2: everyone knows Rihanna. I like, so I like Rihanna. It's 825 00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:06,960 Speaker 2: gonna be a long shot, you know, as far as price, 826 00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:09,799 Speaker 2: I'd probably go to, like, you know, three to one, 827 00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:12,120 Speaker 2: anything three to one are better. Yeah, I think it's 828 00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:14,880 Speaker 2: fine here for lifting me up, just because it's one 829 00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:17,359 Speaker 2: of those where it's right for upsets, and you're gonna 830 00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:19,120 Speaker 2: be kicking yourself if you didn't, if you looked at 831 00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:22,480 Speaker 2: this and just didn't bear Rihanna. So yeah, those are 832 00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:25,799 Speaker 2: the three I got. All Right, dat is going to 833 00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:30,480 Speaker 2: wrap it here for our fourth annual Oscars Betting preview 834 00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:35,080 Speaker 2: show here on the Action Network podcast presented by Spanduel. 835 00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:37,160 Speaker 2: So it's just quickly recap before we get out of here. 836 00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:37,800 Speaker 2: A our best bets. 837 00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:39,800 Speaker 3: What do you got called the two biggest ones that 838 00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:42,520 Speaker 3: I have the most money on by far, our best actor, 839 00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:46,000 Speaker 3: Austin Butler plus one twenty. I'm buying everything. I'm being limited, 840 00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:48,479 Speaker 3: I'm being stopped. I will buy that at plus money 841 00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:51,239 Speaker 3: at any point. Once it becomes the favorite, probably on 842 00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:54,040 Speaker 3: Game Day, on the day of the Academy Awards, it's 843 00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:56,320 Speaker 3: probably gonna steam. So that's when I would stop buying 844 00:41:56,600 --> 00:41:59,480 Speaker 3: other than that Raybon we you know, I mentioned Top 845 00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:04,080 Speaker 3: Gun earlier in the earlier in the show for another category, 846 00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:06,799 Speaker 3: but you know, like minus eight hundred, minus six hundred 847 00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:09,480 Speaker 3: minus seven for Best Sound, I think that that is 848 00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:12,799 Speaker 3: an absolute lock, like farther than what the odds are. 849 00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:15,400 Speaker 3: That is an absolute winner right there, and it's not 850 00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:19,400 Speaker 3: being priced accordingly. So for me, Austome Butler, Best Actor, 851 00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:22,520 Speaker 3: Best Sound minus you know, minus eight hundred for top 852 00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:23,960 Speaker 3: Gun is not being priced correctly. 853 00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:27,279 Speaker 2: Those are my favorites for me. It's Butler as well, 854 00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:30,640 Speaker 2: all of the three I gave at the end. That's 855 00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:33,720 Speaker 2: costume design for Elvis, I would do that to about 856 00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:37,439 Speaker 2: minus two thirty, makeup and hair for Elvis. I would 857 00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:40,600 Speaker 2: do that up to anything under minus two hundred and 858 00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:44,560 Speaker 2: best Song, Lift me up plus three hundred or better. 859 00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:49,040 Speaker 2: Can't fade, Can't fa Rihanna, Man, can cannot fade Rihanna. 860 00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:51,480 Speaker 2: That's gonna do it for us. Be sure to check 861 00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:55,759 Speaker 2: out our Oscars Best Bets episode. That'll be out Thursday 862 00:42:55,960 --> 00:43:00,000 Speaker 2: morning with even more betting picks from our Action Network 863 00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:05,840 Speaker 2: experts and Oscars fanatics, including Colin Whitchurch and Katie rich Creek. 864 00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:09,919 Speaker 2: You can follow Colin on Twitter at Underscore Colin one 865 00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:12,319 Speaker 2: with two l's in Colin, and you can find me 866 00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:16,440 Speaker 2: at Chris Raybon. Until next time, let's get this sh 867 00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:19,520 Speaker 2: money all right, You've really made this a night to 868 00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:23,160 Speaker 2: remember in every way. Now let's go party till dawn. 869 00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:29,600 Speaker 1: Action Network reminds you please gamble responsibly. 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