Speaker 1: Wine Down with Janet Kramer and I heard radio podcast.
Speaker 1: I just got back from therapy, Catherine. Yeah, have you
Speaker 1: started therapy. We need an update of where we're at. Well.
Speaker 1: I've left a voice smail to get my intake. I've
Speaker 1: spoken to the girl, but we talked about that. I
Speaker 1: spoke to the therapist. I just have not scheduled my
Speaker 1: first one yet. Why because I have to do this
Speaker 1: thing called intake. And I called and sounds like a
Speaker 1: lot of excuses that I called again today because you
Speaker 1: knew what I ask you, because she emailed me and
Speaker 1: she's like, hey, did you have a chance to do that?
Speaker 1: And oh, Amy, and you chaned to that because I
Speaker 1: have an opening here here and here, and I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: thanks for emailing me. I never called them back when
Speaker 1: they called me back. So I'll call today. And I
Speaker 1: called today, but I haven't heard back. Man, excuses, I know,
Speaker 1: I'll do it. I promise, stay on me. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's kind of like it's it's it's interesting, because how
Speaker 1: on someone can you be on someone? Does that make sense?
Speaker 1: Like I remember back in the day when my mom
Speaker 1: was like and by the way, she's beautiful, she doesn't
Speaker 1: need to lose weight, but she's like, I want to
Speaker 1: lose weight, and I'm like, we're putting eminems in your
Speaker 1: mouth right now, like and so that it's like also
Speaker 1: the story of life. But and then it's like, hey,
Speaker 1: do you want me to like tell you to put
Speaker 1: the eminem's down or do you want me like it's
Speaker 1: like with therapy, I want you to make sure that
Speaker 1: I do it? Okay, with food? Shut up? And don't
Speaker 1: know we did not get them answer now, got it? Okay?
Speaker 1: I just I don't know. It's because I think that's
Speaker 1: a good question, thank you, Because I think you would
Speaker 1: ask me the same thing, like, hey, where I'm at
Speaker 1: in my life right now? You would be like, do
Speaker 1: you want me to tough love you? Or do you
Speaker 1: want me to be like yeah, go ahead, fun right? No, yeah,
Speaker 1: I should take my own advice. I agree. I'm good
Speaker 1: at telling you what you should do but not doing
Speaker 1: it for myself. Why. I think we're all kind of
Speaker 1: like that. I think you're kind of like that too.
Speaker 1: I know. I'm like, everyone listened to those positive voices
Speaker 1: in your head, and meanwhile I'm like the negative voices
Speaker 1: are dragging me down. You know. I'm like it's actually sad.
Speaker 1: And I was telling my therapist is today I was like,
Speaker 1: I feel like, you know, it's like with that song
Speaker 1: coming out, it's been so amazing and I'm so grateful
Speaker 1: that so many people have resonnated with it the way
Speaker 1: that they have. UM. And you know, when I shared
Speaker 1: that post about you know, the views, views and the
Speaker 1: relationships and just like yess lighting all those things, it's
Speaker 1: like and what how I then let those voices UM
Speaker 1: stay and I still let them kind of hang around.
Speaker 1: It's been I opening for me to be like, man,
Speaker 1: I preach it so much, but I also don't like
Speaker 1: take my own advice. Yeah, I mean I think that's
Speaker 1: kind of a human thing. I really do. I think
Speaker 1: that a lot of people do that. Again, listen to
Speaker 1: my own I would totally be on you if you
Speaker 1: didn't do something like where you would I mean, so funny.
Speaker 1: But I think that's just sometimes I think that we
Speaker 1: see the value in other people. We can offer advice,
Speaker 1: we can do all that, but for some reason, for
Speaker 1: ourselves it's just hard. I don't I don't know why.
Speaker 1: Maybe your our therapist let us know why hour for now,
Speaker 1: until like my issues are until your issues become me. Um.
Speaker 1: You know, it's interesting now because we had a we
Speaker 1: had a topic that came up, um someone had I
Speaker 1: was at a restaurant opening and someone was saying something
Speaker 1: negative about me, and I got and I came back
Speaker 1: to my little girl, um my little girl chat. And
Speaker 1: it really bothered me because I'm like, they're speaking about
Speaker 1: me from when I was in my twenties, and like granted,
Speaker 1: like in my twenties, I wasn't the healthiest version of
Speaker 1: who I am today, and it really hurt my feelings
Speaker 1: that this person was talking bad about me, cause I'm like,
Speaker 1: you don't know who I am. You don't know the
Speaker 1: work I've done the last ten plus years. You don't
Speaker 1: know who I am like or who I was in
Speaker 1: my marriage and like, and it started a really good
Speaker 1: conversation between us because I think there's so many times
Speaker 1: when you hear someone say, oh do you know so
Speaker 1: and so, and it's like, oh my god, that person
Speaker 1: is like how quick we are to like judge that
Speaker 1: other person? Oh? Yeah, absolutely. I mean when you were
Speaker 1: telling me that, I was like, man, let this be
Speaker 1: a lesson to us, because I don't think that we
Speaker 1: mean to you know, but I think people kind of
Speaker 1: gossip at heart or want to point out negatives in people,
Speaker 1: and um, but that's not fair. We're making judgments based
Speaker 1: on something we've heard, or one experience we've had, or
Speaker 1: whatever it is. But that doesn't mean that that person
Speaker 1: is a bad person. So spreading that doesn't that just
Speaker 1: hurts the other person. So I think it's a good lesson. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think it's one of those things where I've caught
Speaker 1: myself being like, okay, because someone asked me about someone
Speaker 1: I said five years ago, I didn't have a great experience,
Speaker 1: but I don't know who they are today, and I
Speaker 1: think that can be that enough. I think is a
Speaker 1: good enough like yours. I was saying what I thought
Speaker 1: about this person. But then also, but I don't know
Speaker 1: like who they are today, because I do believe that
Speaker 1: people change and grow. I mean, ship I'm a walking
Speaker 1: example of like I'm a better person than I was
Speaker 1: like fifteen years ago in in relationships and just I
Speaker 1: don't know, but I wasn't a bad person either, I
Speaker 1: was just lost. No, we weren't a bad person at all. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and this person didn't even really know you, They didn't
Speaker 1: know me at all, So that's not yeah exactly, which,
Speaker 1: by the way, these like little gossip sites that are
Speaker 1: like I think that they know you know, um, I
Speaker 1: just it just it's so frustrating because I'm like, you have,
Speaker 1: Like they were saying that I get paid for like
Speaker 1: to be in these tabloids. I'm like, I do not
Speaker 1: get paid to be in tabloids. I was like, they
Speaker 1: pick up stuff from this and from from this, this,
Speaker 1: um the show. I am not sending stuff there. I
Speaker 1: don't want to be like, trust me, like, anytime I
Speaker 1: see something like it genuinely gives me anxiety. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: and I'm and and I also like when I say
Speaker 1: things because I do want to be free and like talk.
Speaker 1: But I'm like, oh, crap, I should probably take that
Speaker 1: part out because they're going to grab that. And I
Speaker 1: don't want to be a story on Monday morning. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's causing you to second guests being real with the people,
Speaker 1: and that sucks because I mean every week now we're like, oh,
Speaker 1: can we listen back on that and make sure there's
Speaker 1: not something. They still pick something up every week, But
Speaker 1: I don't know why. I mean, I guess people sell
Speaker 1: stuff out there, you know. I mean, here's here's the
Speaker 1: only thing that I know that people would sell would
Speaker 1: be like a wedding story. Yeah, that's the only thing
Speaker 1: I've ever heard of. But I mean maybe or like
Speaker 1: some scandalous like you know, like yeah, yeah, but like
Speaker 1: just this stuff every day. It's like, just follow the podcast.
Speaker 1: It's the same thing. It's literally quotes from the podcast.
Speaker 1: But people just see they just see the headline and
Speaker 1: they assume and they just go. It's just it's so frustrating,
Speaker 1: but you just have to Yeah, I don't know. But
Speaker 1: I was just like, listen, people like you see me
Speaker 1: on a daily basis one and that stuff, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: it's just gives me anxiety. And they're like, well, then
Speaker 1: stop talking about it. But like I have you guys,
Speaker 1: I want to talk like I want to talk about
Speaker 1: I want to be open, I want to be authentic,
Speaker 1: but I also don't want to have to monitor everything
Speaker 1: I say because I'm afraid that like it's gonna get
Speaker 1: taken apart. But I know my true listeners. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: then it's like you're not being real, and that's your thing.
Speaker 1: You want to be real with everyone, and you do
Speaker 1: hold back on some things. There are some things that
Speaker 1: you keep to yourself that you do not talk about
Speaker 1: plenty of things, but you try to feel as be
Speaker 1: as real as you can and be respectful. And I
Speaker 1: think that that's fair. And people can just go back
Speaker 1: to the person talking badly about you, she didn't know you.
Speaker 1: That was not fair. And I think you know the
Speaker 1: lesson for us. If we're talking and someone's truly asking
Speaker 1: about someone, I think you can say, you know, this
Speaker 1: was experience, but you make your own judgment. That's the
Speaker 1: other thing. I think everyone should be able to make
Speaker 1: their own judgments on people. There might be somebody that
Speaker 1: just really doesn't like me, but you really like me,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, So it's like you have
Speaker 1: to have like that's fair. There are plenty of people
Speaker 1: that don't have to like me, but I don't need
Speaker 1: them going around telling everybody I'm a horrible person either.
Speaker 1: I love you. You're not acquired me today, thank you?
Speaker 1: Oh my god. Stuff. Um, you're the one that quit
Speaker 1: on me a million times, that's true, she's never fired me.
Speaker 1: Just to be clear, yes, yes, kind of well moving on, um,
Speaker 1: but yeah, So I think it's just a good lesson
Speaker 1: to just be careful the words we use about other
Speaker 1: people and we don't really know them. And I again
Speaker 1: think people can grow and change and um. And I'm
Speaker 1: again really happy you all are listening to those positive
Speaker 1: voices because that's what you should do. You and my therapist.
Speaker 1: That's something really cool to me today too, because I
Speaker 1: was talking to her about you know, just life and
Speaker 1: in general, and she said, I thought it was just
Speaker 1: a really cool quote. She goes, you can't keep going
Speaker 1: back to the same well because you're just gonna get poison.
Speaker 1: I just thought that was so cool. That's good. You're
Speaker 1: just going to drink poison. I'm like, oh, like, and
Speaker 1: you you decipher that however which way you want. Like
Speaker 1: for me, it's like going back to the same patterns
Speaker 1: or same same things that I know that like I
Speaker 1: don't deserve. Um. So yeah, that's the poison that I
Speaker 1: that I allowed myself to keep drinking. So don't go
Speaker 1: back to the well. No no, no no, go to
Speaker 1: the eminem bowl instead of the well munching um. So
Speaker 1: we have a really really, really awesome guest today, Megan Train.
Speaker 1: Her she's an incredible singer. She's got a podcast with
Speaker 1: her brother, so they're going to be coming on and
Speaker 1: I'm pumped to learn more about her brother too, because
Speaker 1: I know he's got um, he's got some stuff that
Speaker 1: he wants to share and express and be open about.
Speaker 1: So um, let's get them on and before that, we'll
Speaker 1: take a quick break. Hey girl, Hey wine down. Wow,
Speaker 1: y'all are stunning. Oh my god. I was just literally saying,
Speaker 1: it looks like I could skate on my forehead because
Speaker 1: I don't have any makeup on. So I was like, wow,
Speaker 1: I shouldn't like I forget that like we do. I'm like,
Speaker 1: I'm like, I can literally grab it. Crime that you're
Speaker 1: that pretty without makeup. Stop. I want to be like,
Speaker 1: you know how much cake? I have one? Right now? No, girl,
Speaker 1: please stop, not at all. Um. Good to see. This
Speaker 1: is my amazing co host, Catherine. You guys having a
Speaker 1: good day. Great day we got he got up at five,
Speaker 1: were away a man on a mission right now? Wait,
Speaker 1: what's the man on the mission? I'm running the New
Speaker 1: York City Marathon. I've run. I ran eight miles today,
Speaker 1: eight miles. Yeah. Is this your first marathon you've ever run? Yes? Yes?
Speaker 1: Oh wow? And how long have you been training for?
Speaker 1: I think it's been a couple of months. It's starting
Speaker 1: to get serious, Like Saturday's in my long runs. I
Speaker 1: gotta do seventeen this Saturday. Oh my goodness. I trained
Speaker 1: for a half marathon, but I stopped at five miles
Speaker 1: because I was like, you know what, I like, I'll
Speaker 1: just like walk the rest. And then when I got
Speaker 1: to like five miles, I was like I feel I mean,
Speaker 1: I feel pretty good, Like maybe I'll just keep going.
Speaker 1: So I ended up running the entire thing. But like
Speaker 1: my toneails fell off, like it's like, didn't train for zero.
Speaker 1: My body type is like because he inspired me, and
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm gonna be a runner, and my
Speaker 1: body type like when I ran for a week straight,
Speaker 1: I gained weight, okay, inflammation or something. So I hear
Speaker 1: you on that because I was the same way where
Speaker 1: I was. Like my trainer always says like she was like,
Speaker 1: if you want to be long and lean, She's like,
Speaker 1: you have to run. I'm like, I hate running. I
Speaker 1: don't like doing it. Last time I did it, like
Speaker 1: with the half marathon. But now, girl, I tell you
Speaker 1: what it's been. It's how I've been able to maintain um.
Speaker 1: But I will say I was the same way I
Speaker 1: gained weight for like the first month I was eating
Speaker 1: a lot and then all of a sudden, it just
Speaker 1: kind of like sheds, So like give it, give it
Speaker 1: a month, and she's like, I'm sorry. I've never I've
Speaker 1: never had a situation where I'm like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: I stopped drinking and it melted or like gastating, just
Speaker 1: like fell off of me, like I've never My body
Speaker 1: is just like hold on for dear life, like to
Speaker 1: any fat you have. It's crazy. If I've been trying
Speaker 1: so hard, like I got nutrition as a trainer, I've
Speaker 1: lost all my baby weight and then some. But I
Speaker 1: want to go now to like where I've never been before,
Speaker 1: and I'm plat towing and I'm stuck here and I'm like,
Speaker 1: Ma'm I'm doing nothing wrong, Like why aren't I losing
Speaker 1: my one pound a week like the healthy way? What's
Speaker 1: going on? Right? And stuck and I don't know what.
Speaker 1: I've started taking bar class, like I'm doing nothing wrong,
Speaker 1: but my body is just like hold hold seriously, just
Speaker 1: give it, give it, give yourself two months of running
Speaker 1: and then let me know, just do it for for
Speaker 1: two months, like just like give it a try. But no,
Speaker 1: I mean I feel like I mean, I didn't breastfeed
Speaker 1: when I had my baby. How long did you breastfeed for?
Speaker 1: I like pumped for second that three months and then
Speaker 1: I thought like it'll shut off. It took a month
Speaker 1: to shut off. So I tell people like I pumped
Speaker 1: for four months, like I did the same thing. I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't know have a pump. I was just like, no,
Speaker 1: I just couldn't do it. Well, my dude, my I
Speaker 1: don't know how like intense you'll get. But my doctor
Speaker 1: or the the boob doctor or whatever lactation specialists was like,
Speaker 1: your nipples are too small. And I was like, excuse me,
Speaker 1: what do you hey? Wait what yea? So I had
Speaker 1: to have like the little pastic Yeah. It was a nightmare.
Speaker 1: And he wasn't gaining weight. He wasn't gaining weight, and
Speaker 1: my baby wasn't And the doctor was like, let's just
Speaker 1: like give up. And I was like, great, thank you. Well,
Speaker 1: it's like it's so much more stressful. I remember I'm
Speaker 1: recently divorced, but at the time I was married, and
Speaker 1: my husband was like, what are you doing? Why are
Speaker 1: you doing? You are stressed out? Like just stop, like
Speaker 1: to stop because it's like for my first one, I
Speaker 1: didn't breastfeed, so when I had my second, I'm like, Okay,
Speaker 1: I need to do this because that makes me a mom, right,
Speaker 1: Like I need to breastfeed until a year old or whatever.
Speaker 1: And then I'm trying. It wasn't latching, didn't know what
Speaker 1: the heck I was doing. I had like this pump
Speaker 1: on me and I was just like bawling my eyes out,
Speaker 1: and he was just like, you don't have to do that,
Speaker 1: like you're stressing yourself out for no reason. But like,
Speaker 1: but then I'm not a mom, and like what if
Speaker 1: he's going to get sick? And Catherine, my husband, was
Speaker 1: like please stop like begging me, And I was like,
Speaker 1: they say that you just gotta get like three months in,
Speaker 1: so let me get How is it though? Like what's
Speaker 1: been the most challenging thing as a new mom for you? Um?
Speaker 1: I like those are the challenging, Like the three months.
Speaker 1: The first three months is tough. Um. And they saw
Speaker 1: he saw me like because they live with me. My
Speaker 1: cue bros live with me. So one morning I walked
Speaker 1: out like miserable and it's eight am, and he's like,
Speaker 1: why are you up at eight? And I was like, hey,
Speaker 1: what it's like so early. I was like, are you joking? Right? God?
Speaker 1: I was like, I don't have a choice, like lives
Speaker 1: or doesn't. So how is that? Zombies? Right? All these
Speaker 1: poor people? How is marriage life changed? Married life changed
Speaker 1: for you? Since? Haven't they? Actually? Like we're weirdos. We're
Speaker 1: like like look at us in this painting. We're like
Speaker 1: we're so mate lovers supposed to be bonded together for life. Um,
Speaker 1: we're strange. We I feel like we've gotten closer, especially
Speaker 1: now that the babies in his own, Like every night
Speaker 1: that we go to bed, we go to bed early
Speaker 1: because it's the best, and we um, it's like date night.
Speaker 1: Like the giggle and no one makes me laugh as
Speaker 1: much as this goofy dude, and we just like giggle
Speaker 1: and laugh and like love you don't mind. So I
Speaker 1: just love that because you're never you will never remember
Speaker 1: this story. But we were at UM I used to
Speaker 1: be signed over at Warner and we were at an
Speaker 1: after party at Warner, remember remember Um, And we were
Speaker 1: having a conversation and you were just like who you
Speaker 1: were saying, like how you're single, and You're like, I'm
Speaker 1: just never going to find anyone. I'm gonna be alone forever.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, Megan, no, you will not, like you're beautiful,
Speaker 1: like you're going to be fine, and she's just like,
Speaker 1: but you were like seriously, like there's nobody here. I'm like,
Speaker 1: he's not here for you. I promise you he's not here.
Speaker 1: But we had like this like conversation where I'm like,
Speaker 1: but you were so defeated. You're like, I'm never going
Speaker 1: to find love, and it's like, yes you are. It's
Speaker 1: just yes. I cried about it. I like, but then
Speaker 1: I tell because I would like because I wasn't even
Speaker 1: like getting I wasn't even like hooking up guys, Like
Speaker 1: guys are terrified to talk to me. I'm spooky. And
Speaker 1: I was like, Ryan, what's up with it? Like I
Speaker 1: give up a don't just talk to me energy. He's like,
Speaker 1: you're just like loud and boss and you control the
Speaker 1: room when you walk in, which is a very good thing.
Speaker 1: It's not a negative thing at all. Yeah, it's awesome,
Speaker 1: but it's scars guy's away. And Darrel was the first
Speaker 1: guy that wasn't afraid of me, And I was like,
Speaker 1: look at you, a little bray boy, So who do
Speaker 1: you say to the girls? Then that are listening, that
Speaker 1: are kind of that were you five, five or six
Speaker 1: years ago? That was that there's somebody for everybody here,
Speaker 1: and like, I don't know. Everyone told me like the
Speaker 1: second you stopped thinking about it, it's gonna happen. That
Speaker 1: wasn't true for me. I cried out to the universe.
Speaker 1: I manifested that. I remember crying and uber with my
Speaker 1: best friend and was like, where is he already in
Speaker 1: my life? And then like a week later I got
Speaker 1: set up on a date with him and I was like,
Speaker 1: there you are? You know. I just I'm like, he
Speaker 1: just out there making silly mistakes, Like did you say
Speaker 1: that to him? Like, Hi, you do? You don't know this,
Speaker 1: but like you're my future husband? Oh yeah, I tell
Speaker 1: him all time. I'm like, where're the f were you? Like?
Speaker 1: I needed you? So oh my goodness, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I like manifesting and saying stuff out loud that I wanted.
Speaker 1: I remember someone once told me write a letter to
Speaker 1: God and say everything that you want in this person,
Speaker 1: and I did and he didn't send me him. But
Speaker 1: maybe it's fine. It's fine. I'm gonna rewrite that letter
Speaker 1: and see if we can just add write maybe he
Speaker 1: still is, though I mean it's not it's not your tibe.
Speaker 1: May I addressed it to the wrong heaven. I don't
Speaker 1: know off the mail. Yeah, but here's the thing about
Speaker 1: the nice guy. Do you really want the nice guy?
Speaker 1: Because I had yes, yes, yes, yes, ma'am. I want
Speaker 1: them up. Who will open that door for me when
Speaker 1: I get to the car? Okay, that's different. That's different
Speaker 1: than nice though. I feel like that is just what
Speaker 1: a man should do. They should open the car door.
Speaker 1: I think that's like he sees how I work every day,
Speaker 1: and it's like it makes me breakfast in bed, like
Speaker 1: that morning, makes my coffee, makes my smoothie is about
Speaker 1: to get here. In the beginning, I was like this
Speaker 1: kids too nice, like somewhere my Yeah, he used to
Speaker 1: want to be friends and my he does want to
Speaker 1: be friends with my bros. And he would be like
Speaker 1: to my younger brother like, hey, sometime if you want
Speaker 1: to get drinks, like like, I'll take you out and
Speaker 1: we can hang out. And Justin's like ill, like why
Speaker 1: does he want to be nice to me? And I
Speaker 1: was like, it's just because they're East Coast, like what
Speaker 1: you wrote from me? And how long have y' all
Speaker 1: been together now like over five years now, and he
Speaker 1: like still brings you coffee and everything. That's the new thing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we get because in my pregnancy I had just sational diabetes,
Speaker 1: but I was also promoting an entire Christmas album, so
Speaker 1: I was not stop going and you have to eat
Speaker 1: to keep your blood sugar ruddy regular and he would
Speaker 1: like literally provide me with my meals and he just
Speaker 1: like kept that going. And I was like, well, this
Speaker 1: ain't a bad gig, Like let's keep this up. And
Speaker 1: now it just does it every day. Okay, that's so sweet. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because I feel like and he's not like a pushover,
Speaker 1: because that's that's so that's different, I think between a
Speaker 1: nice guy and then someone who just says like, let's
Speaker 1: you do whatever you want. No, Yeah, And we communicate everything.
Speaker 1: That's a big thing with us. Like if we feel
Speaker 1: any way about anything, we tell each other and we're
Speaker 1: like this makes me uncomfortable or don't do this, or
Speaker 1: like from the beginning. So I think that's what we
Speaker 1: just can like read each other's thoughts now, you know,
Speaker 1: and that so are you what do you and your
Speaker 1: brother working on? Wearing me on a podcast? Letting us
Speaker 1: come on your amazing iconic podcast. Yeah, we're I know
Speaker 1: everyone and their parents have a podcast, but we just
Speaker 1: want to be the next one that has a podcast.
Speaker 1: It's also for me, it's like really great family therapy
Speaker 1: that I've never had that I always wanted. Um, we're
Speaker 1: all great, but like, he refuses to see a therapist,
Speaker 1: and I feel like there's a lot of deep rooted
Speaker 1: stuff in here, and I'm like, well, let's like let's
Speaker 1: talk about it on a podcast for the Okay, Well,
Speaker 1: hold on a second now that you just brought that up,
Speaker 1: because I'm a very I'm real big into the therapy world.
Speaker 1: Why why do you not want to see a therapist?
Speaker 1: I mean, I try it out. One guy you have
Speaker 1: that's like, yeah, I've had like ten bad ones. Your
Speaker 1: sister is a just like when my therapist always says
Speaker 1: that you have to have those people that hold you accountable,
Speaker 1: but you need that one person that you have that
Speaker 1: you can go to and just yes, obviously you can
Speaker 1: tell Megan everything. She's your sister, but there are things
Speaker 1: that my brother's also my best friend. But there are
Speaker 1: certain things that I just I might I could maybe
Speaker 1: get a different side. Yeah, like when when you have
Speaker 1: a problem with me, you don't want to like bring
Speaker 1: it to me first. You know, you could bring that
Speaker 1: to someone be like how can I approach Megan with
Speaker 1: this issue that I have with her? But I think
Speaker 1: I'm getting a little better with my issues. And I
Speaker 1: used to drink heavily. Yeah I really sobered up like
Speaker 1: three months ago, bottle everything up. So that's where I'm
Speaker 1: working on, working on that. And yeah, just I'm trying
Speaker 1: to grow up. How old are you? Yeah, you're so cute?
Speaker 1: Are are you married? Emotionally we're like okay, okay, he
Speaker 1: had like one girlfriend in high school and then like
Speaker 1: never had anything, like really I had the classic like
Speaker 1: you know, six months and then it fizzles out. It's
Speaker 1: you know, that's been my repeated process. But you know,
Speaker 1: now I'm trying to switch it up and look for
Speaker 1: something well, and I think that's you know, awesome that
Speaker 1: you're wanting to do this podcast then, because you'll probably
Speaker 1: be able to get awesome you know therapists on the show.
Speaker 1: But you know, just when you here's an I think
Speaker 1: I've realized that if you you attract what you are,
Speaker 1: so if you're in a healthy place, you're going to
Speaker 1: attract someone healthy. So if you're if you start therapy
Speaker 1: now and you start working on yourself and obviously you
Speaker 1: know you stop drinking, that's an amazing first step, but
Speaker 1: to really go into it and see, like, okay, what
Speaker 1: are my childhood wounds? What? Like you know, why am
Speaker 1: I the way that I know I can playing? But
Speaker 1: like you start to really and then you're gonna attract
Speaker 1: someone that is going to be on that same level.
Speaker 1: And that's the relationship that you're gonna want, and that's
Speaker 1: the woman we want to let any now, I feel
Speaker 1: like a big sister too right now. So I'm like,
Speaker 1: he's gonna learn so much in all these podcasts, and
Speaker 1: what scares you about it? I don't want to. I
Speaker 1: don't want to. Like the third episode was the sobriety
Speaker 1: episode is not out yet but it will be soon.
Speaker 1: And he literally like you could feel the room get thicker.
Speaker 1: He got so hot, and like there's a moment where
Speaker 1: the lights got messed up and he had to fix
Speaker 1: say and he turned to me and he's like, I
Speaker 1: hate this. I hate this. I hate this, And I
Speaker 1: was like, this is good for you. I know it's
Speaker 1: uncomfortable but you're gonna feel so much better when it's out.
Speaker 1: And it was incredible because there was stuff that happened
Speaker 1: that we our entire family didn't know about and we're
Speaker 1: together every day, so it was a really it's it's
Speaker 1: it's great for us to to know, like, oh, he
Speaker 1: needed to get sober. Yeah. I think doing it publicly
Speaker 1: it keeps me more accountable. You know, it's not like
Speaker 1: just for me now. Yeah, the marathon was like our
Speaker 1: friend's idea to keep him like have a goal and
Speaker 1: have something to do. Yeah, I could run away from
Speaker 1: all my demons. Yeah. Sure. And the only thing that
Speaker 1: I'll like that I'll say is just don't stay in
Speaker 1: your shame around it, because when you stay in your shame,
Speaker 1: then that's because when you go out. And because my
Speaker 1: ex who was on the show, he came out saying
Speaker 1: he was a sex addict, but I think we're he
Speaker 1: struggled with it talking publicly about it was because he
Speaker 1: stayed in a shame. So then that's when you can
Speaker 1: find yourself relapsing and you can find yourself repeating patterns.
Speaker 1: So it's you share your story, which you have and
Speaker 1: that's amazing, but don't allow yourself to stay in that
Speaker 1: place of shame that you are bad, that you aren't
Speaker 1: good enough, that you aren't worthy, because then you're gonna
Speaker 1: so look at it in a way like, look how
Speaker 1: many people I'm going to help? Look at how many
Speaker 1: people are going to like champion my journey? And then
Speaker 1: that way you'll feel better about talking about the situation
Speaker 1: because you're not being You're not filled with shame and
Speaker 1: you're not doing the things. And I think because my
Speaker 1: husband was still acting out, so that's like why he
Speaker 1: stayed in his shame and was not being authentic to
Speaker 1: our listeners. So if you are authentic and you are
Speaker 1: doing the work, you will not have that shame. So
Speaker 1: just make sure you stay in that and be true
Speaker 1: to yourself. It's my only Oh my god, are so
Speaker 1: you single? Now? I'm in the dating realm, but I know, yeah,
Speaker 1: are you trying to set me up with your brother?
Speaker 1: She's pretty woman? I mean, I'm like ten years older
Speaker 1: than you and I've got two kids, so would you?
Speaker 1: Uh um, what what is it called? The psychic told
Speaker 1: him he was gonna have a baby when he's thirty,
Speaker 1: So well, I mean, this is a clothes shop, but
Speaker 1: you know, you never know. Well, I'm just so freaking
Speaker 1: happy for you. I think that's that's great. And now
Speaker 1: are you going to have other family members on two
Speaker 1: to kind of talk about more family dynamics or yeah,
Speaker 1: we have a fatherhood episode and my husband never really
Speaker 1: had a dad. Their dad left when he was like
Speaker 1: an infant, so he learned all his fathering from my dad.
Speaker 1: So it was really cool to talk to them about that.
Speaker 1: And my my husband's working on being a dad and
Speaker 1: being like really a stay at home dad while I'm
Speaker 1: out working every day and he's just like the best
Speaker 1: at it. So, um, that was a fun episode. We'd
Speaker 1: have a fun episode about dating, especially dating on apps
Speaker 1: Nowaday Los Angeles. Um, and we interviewed our younger brother.
Speaker 1: He's twenty five and he just started dating because he's
Speaker 1: just like shy and sweet and insecurity. I was like,
Speaker 1: I was on Riot for like a hot second, and
Speaker 1: I was like, here, I think it's still on Riya
Speaker 1: because I don't know if I really canceled it. But
Speaker 1: my younger brother has also never been on social media,
Speaker 1: Like that's how shy and like he is, so like
Speaker 1: him dating women on there, I'm like, that's not like
Speaker 1: you don't have to tell them everything, you know. It's
Speaker 1: like a weird, a weird thing to learn. And then
Speaker 1: I interviewed my makeup artists who's like stunning ten out
Speaker 1: of ten, like still struggling to find her soul me
Speaker 1: out here in l A and she's like the games
Speaker 1: that these guys play to get into that do you
Speaker 1: ever feel how do I say this that people might
Speaker 1: want to hang around your brothers for the wrong reasons
Speaker 1: because of who you are. That's that's the other spooky
Speaker 1: part of my younger brother, especially on the dating apps,
Speaker 1: like he has I let him use one picture of
Speaker 1: us as a family because he doesn't have a lot
Speaker 1: of pictures of himself. Um So I was like, you
Speaker 1: can use us in there, and they obviously like hit
Speaker 1: him up, like some of them have been like I'm
Speaker 1: a singer and I'm like next, Like like one day
Speaker 1: he had like they wanted to record in my studio
Speaker 1: and I'm like style. But he doesn't see that as
Speaker 1: they're using him, and so it's like a weird place
Speaker 1: of having to educate him of like you don't understand
Speaker 1: like how psycho people can be online and you don't
Speaker 1: know who they are. And you have to be really protective.
Speaker 1: I think that's like another thing I feel like that
Speaker 1: you had to go through. Well, yeah, but I'm pretty
Speaker 1: good at picking up on those cues, and I'm very
Speaker 1: easily to just like ghosts. But there's been moments like
Speaker 1: when he was drinking and partying, he would have like
Speaker 1: the party girls come over and they like filmed the
Speaker 1: whole backyard, but then they would never come back again.
Speaker 1: I go back again. Yeah, okay, So and then the
Speaker 1: podcast when does it come out? What's it called? It
Speaker 1: came out September and called working on It, Love It
Speaker 1: and it's Yeah. You can also you can hear it anywhere,
Speaker 1: and you can also watch the whole video of us
Speaker 1: recording it on YouTube. Oh I love that temporary space
Speaker 1: studio is done. We're literally in his apartment and it
Speaker 1: looks jankie and like the green screen from Amazon, like
Speaker 1: but we're trying. No, it's great. I just got the
Speaker 1: sign hung just the other day, Like just the other day.
Speaker 1: My mom is like, when do I order it? No?
Speaker 1: That is so cute. Oh, Like my mom is like,
Speaker 1: I bought ten. I just love y'all's relationship. But just
Speaker 1: I'm gonna call my brother after this, because I just
Speaker 1: it's like it's the best. I don't want them to
Speaker 1: live anywhere by my house. No, not at all. Um. Well,
Speaker 1: I I just appreciate you being vulnerable. I appreciate you
Speaker 1: guys sharing both of your stories and putting it out
Speaker 1: there because it's going to help a lot of people.
Speaker 1: And um, I know that my Wine Down listeners will
Speaker 1: definitely listen to y'all's podcast because you're going to keep
Speaker 1: it authentic and you're going to share your life. So
Speaker 1: just I appreciate that because I know, Megan, you're in
Speaker 1: the spotlight, so that can be hard because people pick
Speaker 1: apart literally everything you say. And I just love that
Speaker 1: you're creating your own narrative and the truth and so
Speaker 1: I just I really look up to for doing that.
Speaker 1: And we're not going to stay in our shame. No girl, no, no, no, no, Well,
Speaker 1: thank you guys. So fran Frand I didn't get to
Speaker 1: hear you say anything, huh you'r Frand she didn't get
Speaker 1: to say it's fine. I didn't ask how what else
Speaker 1: are you working on? What else are you working on?
Speaker 1: That's great? Also working on I want to do like
Speaker 1: a whole episode about nutrition and what I've learned about
Speaker 1: it and and acne in like everything. Yes, we have
Speaker 1: a website working on it, working on it pod dot
Speaker 1: com where you can submit questions and we'll dive in
Speaker 1: there where else can the listeners find you? TikTok working
Speaker 1: on But you have a you have a cooking show
Speaker 1: that you're doing too, Oh my heart everywhere. I'm on
Speaker 1: a cookie show. I can't cook. It's funny. I host
Speaker 1: it Top to Family Style, There's Kids Peacock, and I'm
Speaker 1: I'm on a judge on Clash of the Cover Bands,
Speaker 1: where we literally judge cover bands and it's hilarious and
Speaker 1: iconic and these people pour their hearts and souls into
Speaker 1: their performances and I love it and I encourage everyone
Speaker 1: to watch it. Amazing. Okay, cool, alright, thank you guys.
Speaker 1: I appreciate you. Good luck at the marathon. You crushing Okay,
Speaker 1: bye guys. Bye. I love her, She's so sweet, Like
Speaker 1: what about your friend? I love that little dynamic is adorable.
Speaker 1: Love them and I just love that he's going to
Speaker 1: like that he's sharing a story and they're talking about
Speaker 1: family had stuff, because hopefully that I'll get other people talking. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's great. By the way, your advice to him wasn't
Speaker 1: really really great. Really you could just see like their
Speaker 1: response to it, you know, like it you could you
Speaker 1: could see that it really impacted them. Well, I yeah,
Speaker 1: I will thank you because I kind of just blacked
Speaker 1: out when I was saying all that it was really good.
Speaker 1: You should go back and listen, but it was you know,
Speaker 1: I just think back to when you know, my ex
Speaker 1: was on here, and it's like, if you're not being authentic,
Speaker 1: you're going to obviously stay in shame if you're still
Speaker 1: doing the things you're doing, and even if you're not
Speaker 1: still doing the things you're doing, there's no reason to
Speaker 1: stay in your shame because you're not a bad person,
Speaker 1: are growing and getting healthier. Right. But well, and he
Speaker 1: was an authentic so but hey, you learned from it
Speaker 1: and you were able to pass on knowledge. But I'll
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Speaker 1: so they're awesome. I love them. Like what a fun
Speaker 1: like brother sister do o like kind of reminds me
Speaker 1: of my brother, Like like he doesn't remind me my brother,
Speaker 1: but like just like that like relationship and then like
Speaker 1: living with her and she wants him around all the time,
Speaker 1: Like that's so fun. It's like a party all the time.
Speaker 1: She loved her energy. Do you think I was too
Speaker 1: hard on him with like the No, I think it
Speaker 1: was great. You could see in his eyes he was
Speaker 1: like huh, like you got him thinking, and she's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: you got him. I just don't want him to like
Speaker 1: carry the ship because I know what that does, you know,
Speaker 1: And I know that like if when you have that
Speaker 1: shame like and I think that's you know, I I wished,
Speaker 1: you know, my X didn't carry that because maybe he
Speaker 1: could have been more of an honest person without it.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean that just like that makes me
Speaker 1: sad for oh so I just don't want I don't
Speaker 1: want anyone to carry shame. Just great advice. I need
Speaker 1: to take my own advice again. Not that I'm not
Speaker 1: that I'm carrying shame, but I just, you know, I
Speaker 1: just I always like it's like trying to prove that
Speaker 1: I'm like good enough, and it's like I I got
Speaker 1: to prove him good enough to anyone but myself. I know,
Speaker 1: like I know, I know, I know, I know. I
Speaker 1: just keep telling yourself that eventually you that just takes
Speaker 1: takes some time. I got an email before we wrap
Speaker 1: out the show my husband. I have been trying to
Speaker 1: start a family for over a year now. I've been
Speaker 1: on infertility medication for a few months, but nothing has worked.
Speaker 1: So our obie is recommending injections as our next step,
Speaker 1: which also means going to a new doctor. Other than
Speaker 1: the consultation appointment. I've been going to appointments without my husband,
Speaker 1: which has been fine, but since we are about to
Speaker 1: see a new doctor and don't really know next steps,
Speaker 1: I think he needs to be there with me. He, however,
Speaker 1: doesn't want to take off work and doesn't see a
Speaker 1: need to be there. I know he cares and is
Speaker 1: eager to start a family too, So should that be enough? Janna,
Speaker 1: As someone who has struggled with infertility, what are your thoughts?
Speaker 1: It would I'm a little bit more of a sensitive person.
Speaker 1: It would hurt my feelings that he wouldn't want to
Speaker 1: be at the first appointment. I understand that, Like, there's
Speaker 1: a lot of appointments and like my ex didn't go
Speaker 1: to all of them with me, but like the first one,
Speaker 1: the important ones, I think are they should like because
Speaker 1: if not, your going to feel alone in it, and
Speaker 1: like maybe expressed that to him to be like, hey,
Speaker 1: I don't want to feel alone in this process. It
Speaker 1: would mean a lot to me if you came to
Speaker 1: this first one so that I I don't feel alone.
Speaker 1: I actually agree, Yeah, it would actually hurt my feelings too.
Speaker 1: I think if it's definitely the first one, it's kind
Speaker 1: of like the first you know, I mean, you like
Speaker 1: first pregnancy when you are I'm pregnant or whatever. It's
Speaker 1: like you you're excited, you want them to be there.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of information I would feel the same way.
Speaker 1: But I think if you expressed that like you said
Speaker 1: and say something, that's when it's kind of even more
Speaker 1: important because you expressed that, like this means a lot
Speaker 1: to me for you to come. And then if he
Speaker 1: still doesn't want to come, then you know, that's also hurtful,
Speaker 1: you know, but hopefully he would understand then that how
Speaker 1: important it was to you. Yeah, I mean, and yeah,
Speaker 1: hopefully he does, because that would that would that would
Speaker 1: be hurtful. But I mean I understand not taking off work,
Speaker 1: but again, like this is he doesn't need to go
Speaker 1: to every appointment, like I never had my ex come
Speaker 1: to like all the appointments where it's just like the
Speaker 1: first and then like they were big ones and it's
Speaker 1: just like a couple of hours, right Yeah, So I mean,
Speaker 1: unless you just can't. I mean, maybe there's a reason
Speaker 1: he can't take off work, but it's he's pretty sure.
Speaker 1: It says he didn't want to. You know what, No
Speaker 1: girl wants to inject their body with with you know,
Speaker 1: needles and stuff. So show the F up. On that note,
Speaker 1: have a great week. Show the f up this week. Okay, alright, Bye,