1
00:00:01,920 --> 00:00:05,359
Speaker 1: Wine Down with Janet Kramer and I heard radio podcast.

2
00:00:07,160 --> 00:00:10,800
Speaker 1: I just got back from therapy, Catherine. Yeah, have you

3
00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:16,200
Speaker 1: started therapy. We need an update of where we're at. Well.

4
00:00:16,320 --> 00:00:18,880
Speaker 1: I've left a voice smail to get my intake. I've

5
00:00:18,920 --> 00:00:23,400
Speaker 1: spoken to the girl, but we talked about that. I

6
00:00:23,440 --> 00:00:26,480
Speaker 1: spoke to the therapist. I just have not scheduled my

7
00:00:26,520 --> 00:00:29,920
Speaker 1: first one yet. Why because I have to do this

8
00:00:29,960 --> 00:00:33,040
Speaker 1: thing called intake. And I called and sounds like a

9
00:00:34,920 --> 00:00:37,400
Speaker 1: lot of excuses that I called again today because you

10
00:00:37,479 --> 00:00:40,320
Speaker 1: knew what I ask you, because she emailed me and

11
00:00:40,360 --> 00:00:42,159
Speaker 1: she's like, hey, did you have a chance to do that?

12
00:00:42,440 --> 00:00:45,640
Speaker 1: And oh, Amy, and you chaned to that because I

13
00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:47,760
Speaker 1: have an opening here here and here, and I was like, oh,

14
00:00:48,040 --> 00:00:50,839
Speaker 1: thanks for emailing me. I never called them back when

15
00:00:50,880 --> 00:00:52,920
Speaker 1: they called me back. So I'll call today. And I

16
00:00:52,960 --> 00:00:55,960
Speaker 1: called today, but I haven't heard back. Man, excuses, I know,

17
00:00:56,000 --> 00:00:58,480
Speaker 1: I'll do it. I promise, stay on me. I mean,

18
00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:04,800
Speaker 1: it's kind of like it's it's it's interesting, because how

19
00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:07,240
Speaker 1: on someone can you be on someone? Does that make sense?

20
00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:09,160
Speaker 1: Like I remember back in the day when my mom

21
00:01:09,319 --> 00:01:11,119
Speaker 1: was like and by the way, she's beautiful, she doesn't

22
00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:12,399
Speaker 1: need to lose weight, but she's like, I want to

23
00:01:12,400 --> 00:01:14,600
Speaker 1: lose weight, and I'm like, we're putting eminems in your

24
00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:17,199
Speaker 1: mouth right now, like and so that it's like also

25
00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:20,600
Speaker 1: the story of life. But and then it's like, hey,

26
00:01:20,640 --> 00:01:22,400
Speaker 1: do you want me to like tell you to put

27
00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:25,200
Speaker 1: the eminem's down or do you want me like it's

28
00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:27,920
Speaker 1: like with therapy, I want you to make sure that

29
00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:30,800
Speaker 1: I do it? Okay, with food? Shut up? And don't

30
00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:35,080
Speaker 1: know we did not get them answer now, got it? Okay?

31
00:01:35,480 --> 00:01:37,880
Speaker 1: I just I don't know. It's because I think that's

32
00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:40,960
Speaker 1: a good question, thank you, Because I think you would

33
00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:43,360
Speaker 1: ask me the same thing, like, hey, where I'm at

34
00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:44,880
Speaker 1: in my life right now? You would be like, do

35
00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:46,600
Speaker 1: you want me to tough love you? Or do you

36
00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:50,800
Speaker 1: want me to be like yeah, go ahead, fun right? No, yeah,

37
00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:54,520
Speaker 1: I should take my own advice. I agree. I'm good

38
00:01:54,520 --> 00:01:57,000
Speaker 1: at telling you what you should do but not doing

39
00:01:57,040 --> 00:02:00,320
Speaker 1: it for myself. Why. I think we're all kind of

40
00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:02,760
Speaker 1: like that. I think you're kind of like that too.

41
00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:05,919
Speaker 1: I know. I'm like, everyone listened to those positive voices

42
00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:08,040
Speaker 1: in your head, and meanwhile I'm like the negative voices

43
00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:12,320
Speaker 1: are dragging me down. You know. I'm like it's actually sad.

44
00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:14,240
Speaker 1: And I was telling my therapist is today I was like,

45
00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:18,440
Speaker 1: I feel like, you know, it's like with that song

46
00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:20,720
Speaker 1: coming out, it's been so amazing and I'm so grateful

47
00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:22,799
Speaker 1: that so many people have resonnated with it the way

48
00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:26,800
Speaker 1: that they have. UM. And you know, when I shared

49
00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:29,480
Speaker 1: that post about you know, the views, views and the

50
00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:31,639
Speaker 1: relationships and just like yess lighting all those things, it's

51
00:02:31,680 --> 00:02:37,520
Speaker 1: like and what how I then let those voices UM

52
00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:41,720
Speaker 1: stay and I still let them kind of hang around.

53
00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:45,840
Speaker 1: It's been I opening for me to be like, man,

54
00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:49,200
Speaker 1: I preach it so much, but I also don't like

55
00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:52,680
Speaker 1: take my own advice. Yeah, I mean I think that's

56
00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:54,920
Speaker 1: kind of a human thing. I really do. I think

57
00:02:54,919 --> 00:02:57,360
Speaker 1: that a lot of people do that. Again, listen to

58
00:02:57,400 --> 00:02:59,120
Speaker 1: my own I would totally be on you if you

59
00:02:59,160 --> 00:03:03,040
Speaker 1: didn't do something like where you would I mean, so funny.

60
00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:05,679
Speaker 1: But I think that's just sometimes I think that we

61
00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:10,440
Speaker 1: see the value in other people. We can offer advice,

62
00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:11,760
Speaker 1: we can do all that, but for some reason, for

63
00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:14,320
Speaker 1: ourselves it's just hard. I don't I don't know why.

64
00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:20,360
Speaker 1: Maybe your our therapist let us know why hour for now,

65
00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:24,919
Speaker 1: until like my issues are until your issues become me. Um.

66
00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:26,600
Speaker 1: You know, it's interesting now because we had a we

67
00:03:26,639 --> 00:03:32,200
Speaker 1: had a topic that came up, um someone had I

68
00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:37,680
Speaker 1: was at a restaurant opening and someone was saying something

69
00:03:37,720 --> 00:03:41,440
Speaker 1: negative about me, and I got and I came back

70
00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:44,160
Speaker 1: to my little girl, um my little girl chat. And

71
00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:47,800
Speaker 1: it really bothered me because I'm like, they're speaking about

72
00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:51,560
Speaker 1: me from when I was in my twenties, and like granted,

73
00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:54,680
Speaker 1: like in my twenties, I wasn't the healthiest version of

74
00:03:55,120 --> 00:03:58,320
Speaker 1: who I am today, and it really hurt my feelings

75
00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:00,360
Speaker 1: that this person was talking bad about me, cause I'm like,

76
00:04:00,440 --> 00:04:02,640
Speaker 1: you don't know who I am. You don't know the

77
00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:05,560
Speaker 1: work I've done the last ten plus years. You don't

78
00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:07,640
Speaker 1: know who I am like or who I was in

79
00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:12,560
Speaker 1: my marriage and like, and it started a really good

80
00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:16,440
Speaker 1: conversation between us because I think there's so many times

81
00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:18,480
Speaker 1: when you hear someone say, oh do you know so

82
00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:20,200
Speaker 1: and so, and it's like, oh my god, that person

83
00:04:20,320 --> 00:04:23,479
Speaker 1: is like how quick we are to like judge that

84
00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:26,640
Speaker 1: other person? Oh? Yeah, absolutely. I mean when you were

85
00:04:26,680 --> 00:04:29,039
Speaker 1: telling me that, I was like, man, let this be

86
00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:32,000
Speaker 1: a lesson to us, because I don't think that we

87
00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:34,960
Speaker 1: mean to you know, but I think people kind of

88
00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:38,320
Speaker 1: gossip at heart or want to point out negatives in people,

89
00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:42,599
Speaker 1: and um, but that's not fair. We're making judgments based

90
00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:46,000
Speaker 1: on something we've heard, or one experience we've had, or

91
00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:48,680
Speaker 1: whatever it is. But that doesn't mean that that person

92
00:04:48,760 --> 00:04:52,560
Speaker 1: is a bad person. So spreading that doesn't that just

93
00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:55,719
Speaker 1: hurts the other person. So I think it's a good lesson. Yeah.

94
00:04:55,760 --> 00:04:57,520
Speaker 1: I think it's one of those things where I've caught

95
00:04:57,560 --> 00:05:01,040
Speaker 1: myself being like, okay, because someone asked me about someone

96
00:05:01,080 --> 00:05:03,120
Speaker 1: I said five years ago, I didn't have a great experience,

97
00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:04,719
Speaker 1: but I don't know who they are today, and I

98
00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:07,120
Speaker 1: think that can be that enough. I think is a

99
00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:10,479
Speaker 1: good enough like yours. I was saying what I thought

100
00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:12,680
Speaker 1: about this person. But then also, but I don't know

101
00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:14,760
Speaker 1: like who they are today, because I do believe that

102
00:05:14,800 --> 00:05:16,760
Speaker 1: people change and grow. I mean, ship I'm a walking

103
00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:19,280
Speaker 1: example of like I'm a better person than I was

104
00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:24,960
Speaker 1: like fifteen years ago in in relationships and just I

105
00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:27,279
Speaker 1: don't know, but I wasn't a bad person either, I

106
00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:30,080
Speaker 1: was just lost. No, we weren't a bad person at all. Yeah,

107
00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:32,720
Speaker 1: and this person didn't even really know you, They didn't

108
00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:35,599
Speaker 1: know me at all, So that's not yeah exactly, which,

109
00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:37,800
Speaker 1: by the way, these like little gossip sites that are

110
00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:42,080
Speaker 1: like I think that they know you know, um, I

111
00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:45,719
Speaker 1: just it just it's so frustrating because I'm like, you have,

112
00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:48,840
Speaker 1: Like they were saying that I get paid for like

113
00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:52,200
Speaker 1: to be in these tabloids. I'm like, I do not

114
00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:55,800
Speaker 1: get paid to be in tabloids. I was like, they

115
00:05:55,839 --> 00:05:58,479
Speaker 1: pick up stuff from this and from from this, this,

116
00:05:58,720 --> 00:06:04,680
Speaker 1: um the show. I am not sending stuff there. I

117
00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:06,479
Speaker 1: don't want to be like, trust me, like, anytime I

118
00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:09,920
Speaker 1: see something like it genuinely gives me anxiety. Oh yeah,

119
00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:13,080
Speaker 1: and I'm and and I also like when I say

120
00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:15,000
Speaker 1: things because I do want to be free and like talk.

121
00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:17,039
Speaker 1: But I'm like, oh, crap, I should probably take that

122
00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:19,279
Speaker 1: part out because they're going to grab that. And I

123
00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:22,760
Speaker 1: don't want to be a story on Monday morning. Yeah,

124
00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:26,520
Speaker 1: it's causing you to second guests being real with the people,

125
00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:28,960
Speaker 1: and that sucks because I mean every week now we're like, oh,

126
00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:30,640
Speaker 1: can we listen back on that and make sure there's

127
00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:33,400
Speaker 1: not something. They still pick something up every week, But

128
00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:36,200
Speaker 1: I don't know why. I mean, I guess people sell

129
00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:40,360
Speaker 1: stuff out there, you know. I mean, here's here's the

130
00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:42,040
Speaker 1: only thing that I know that people would sell would

131
00:06:42,040 --> 00:06:44,160
Speaker 1: be like a wedding story. Yeah, that's the only thing

132
00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:46,120
Speaker 1: I've ever heard of. But I mean maybe or like

133
00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:50,400
Speaker 1: some scandalous like you know, like yeah, yeah, but like

134
00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:52,920
Speaker 1: just this stuff every day. It's like, just follow the podcast.

135
00:06:53,120 --> 00:06:56,400
Speaker 1: It's the same thing. It's literally quotes from the podcast.

136
00:06:56,720 --> 00:07:00,200
Speaker 1: But people just see they just see the headline and

137
00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:03,640
Speaker 1: they assume and they just go. It's just it's so frustrating,

138
00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:06,960
Speaker 1: but you just have to Yeah, I don't know. But

139
00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:10,760
Speaker 1: I was just like, listen, people like you see me

140
00:07:10,800 --> 00:07:12,800
Speaker 1: on a daily basis one and that stuff, and I'm like,

141
00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:15,800
Speaker 1: it's just gives me anxiety. And they're like, well, then

142
00:07:15,880 --> 00:07:17,680
Speaker 1: stop talking about it. But like I have you guys,

143
00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:19,240
Speaker 1: I want to talk like I want to talk about

144
00:07:19,280 --> 00:07:20,840
Speaker 1: I want to be open, I want to be authentic,

145
00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:22,520
Speaker 1: but I also don't want to have to monitor everything

146
00:07:22,520 --> 00:07:24,400
Speaker 1: I say because I'm afraid that like it's gonna get

147
00:07:24,840 --> 00:07:27,600
Speaker 1: taken apart. But I know my true listeners. Yeah, and

148
00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:30,360
Speaker 1: then it's like you're not being real, and that's your thing.

149
00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:33,120
Speaker 1: You want to be real with everyone, and you do

150
00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:35,240
Speaker 1: hold back on some things. There are some things that

151
00:07:35,280 --> 00:07:37,160
Speaker 1: you keep to yourself that you do not talk about

152
00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:40,600
Speaker 1: plenty of things, but you try to feel as be

153
00:07:40,640 --> 00:07:42,600
Speaker 1: as real as you can and be respectful. And I

154
00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:44,840
Speaker 1: think that that's fair. And people can just go back

155
00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:49,840
Speaker 1: to the person talking badly about you, she didn't know you.

156
00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:53,680
Speaker 1: That was not fair. And I think you know the

157
00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:56,280
Speaker 1: lesson for us. If we're talking and someone's truly asking

158
00:07:56,320 --> 00:07:59,720
Speaker 1: about someone, I think you can say, you know, this

159
00:07:59,800 --> 00:08:03,120
Speaker 1: was experience, but you make your own judgment. That's the

160
00:08:03,160 --> 00:08:04,960
Speaker 1: other thing. I think everyone should be able to make

161
00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:07,720
Speaker 1: their own judgments on people. There might be somebody that

162
00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:10,480
Speaker 1: just really doesn't like me, but you really like me,

163
00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:12,200
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, So it's like you have

164
00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:15,160
Speaker 1: to have like that's fair. There are plenty of people

165
00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:17,160
Speaker 1: that don't have to like me, but I don't need

166
00:08:17,200 --> 00:08:19,400
Speaker 1: them going around telling everybody I'm a horrible person either.

167
00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:24,520
Speaker 1: I love you. You're not acquired me today, thank you?

168
00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:27,920
Speaker 1: Oh my god. Stuff. Um, you're the one that quit

169
00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:30,880
Speaker 1: on me a million times, that's true, she's never fired me.

170
00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:41,679
Speaker 1: Just to be clear, yes, yes, kind of well moving on, um,

171
00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:43,959
Speaker 1: but yeah, So I think it's just a good lesson

172
00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:47,199
Speaker 1: to just be careful the words we use about other

173
00:08:47,240 --> 00:08:50,560
Speaker 1: people and we don't really know them. And I again

174
00:08:50,679 --> 00:08:55,760
Speaker 1: think people can grow and change and um. And I'm

175
00:08:55,800 --> 00:08:58,000
Speaker 1: again really happy you all are listening to those positive

176
00:08:58,080 --> 00:09:01,160
Speaker 1: voices because that's what you should do. You and my therapist.

177
00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:02,960
Speaker 1: That's something really cool to me today too, because I

178
00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:05,679
Speaker 1: was talking to her about you know, just life and

179
00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:09,360
Speaker 1: in general, and she said, I thought it was just

180
00:09:09,400 --> 00:09:11,720
Speaker 1: a really cool quote. She goes, you can't keep going

181
00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:15,480
Speaker 1: back to the same well because you're just gonna get poison.

182
00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:21,880
Speaker 1: I just thought that was so cool. That's good. You're

183
00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:24,679
Speaker 1: just going to drink poison. I'm like, oh, like, and

184
00:09:24,920 --> 00:09:28,960
Speaker 1: you you decipher that however which way you want. Like

185
00:09:29,080 --> 00:09:31,280
Speaker 1: for me, it's like going back to the same patterns

186
00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:35,200
Speaker 1: or same same things that I know that like I

187
00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:39,840
Speaker 1: don't deserve. Um. So yeah, that's the poison that I

188
00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:43,760
Speaker 1: that I allowed myself to keep drinking. So don't go

189
00:09:43,800 --> 00:09:48,440
Speaker 1: back to the well. No no, no no, go to

190
00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:55,320
Speaker 1: the eminem bowl instead of the well munching um. So

191
00:09:55,400 --> 00:09:59,960
Speaker 1: we have a really really, really awesome guest today, Megan Train.

192
00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:02,800
Speaker 1: Her she's an incredible singer. She's got a podcast with

193
00:10:02,840 --> 00:10:05,280
Speaker 1: her brother, so they're going to be coming on and

194
00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:07,880
Speaker 1: I'm pumped to learn more about her brother too, because

195
00:10:07,880 --> 00:10:10,559
Speaker 1: I know he's got um, he's got some stuff that

196
00:10:10,600 --> 00:10:13,200
Speaker 1: he wants to share and express and be open about.

197
00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:17,000
Speaker 1: So um, let's get them on and before that, we'll

198
00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:33,200
Speaker 1: take a quick break. Hey girl, Hey wine down. Wow,

199
00:10:33,280 --> 00:10:35,720
Speaker 1: y'all are stunning. Oh my god. I was just literally saying,

200
00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:37,680
Speaker 1: it looks like I could skate on my forehead because

201
00:10:37,679 --> 00:10:39,480
Speaker 1: I don't have any makeup on. So I was like, wow,

202
00:10:39,520 --> 00:10:43,040
Speaker 1: I shouldn't like I forget that like we do. I'm like,

203
00:10:43,600 --> 00:10:46,719
Speaker 1: I'm like, I can literally grab it. Crime that you're

204
00:10:46,760 --> 00:10:50,520
Speaker 1: that pretty without makeup. Stop. I want to be like,

205
00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:52,960
Speaker 1: you know how much cake? I have one? Right now? No, girl,

206
00:10:53,080 --> 00:10:56,440
Speaker 1: please stop, not at all. Um. Good to see. This

207
00:10:56,520 --> 00:11:00,680
Speaker 1: is my amazing co host, Catherine. You guys having a

208
00:11:00,679 --> 00:11:04,000
Speaker 1: good day. Great day we got he got up at five,

209
00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:06,440
Speaker 1: were away a man on a mission right now? Wait,

210
00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:08,679
Speaker 1: what's the man on the mission? I'm running the New

211
00:11:08,720 --> 00:11:12,800
Speaker 1: York City Marathon. I've run. I ran eight miles today,

212
00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:18,800
Speaker 1: eight miles. Yeah. Is this your first marathon you've ever run? Yes? Yes?

213
00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:22,040
Speaker 1: Oh wow? And how long have you been training for?

214
00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:24,520
Speaker 1: I think it's been a couple of months. It's starting

215
00:11:24,520 --> 00:11:26,480
Speaker 1: to get serious, Like Saturday's in my long runs. I

216
00:11:26,480 --> 00:11:31,640
Speaker 1: gotta do seventeen this Saturday. Oh my goodness. I trained

217
00:11:31,720 --> 00:11:34,040
Speaker 1: for a half marathon, but I stopped at five miles

218
00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:35,439
Speaker 1: because I was like, you know what, I like, I'll

219
00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:37,800
Speaker 1: just like walk the rest. And then when I got

220
00:11:37,840 --> 00:11:39,400
Speaker 1: to like five miles, I was like I feel I mean,

221
00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:41,480
Speaker 1: I feel pretty good, Like maybe I'll just keep going.

222
00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:43,360
Speaker 1: So I ended up running the entire thing. But like

223
00:11:43,400 --> 00:11:49,319
Speaker 1: my toneails fell off, like it's like, didn't train for zero.

224
00:11:50,640 --> 00:11:53,040
Speaker 1: My body type is like because he inspired me, and

225
00:11:53,080 --> 00:11:56,520
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm gonna be a runner, and my

226
00:11:56,600 --> 00:11:59,360
Speaker 1: body type like when I ran for a week straight,

227
00:11:59,400 --> 00:12:04,240
Speaker 1: I gained weight, okay, inflammation or something. So I hear

228
00:12:04,280 --> 00:12:06,400
Speaker 1: you on that because I was the same way where

229
00:12:06,400 --> 00:12:08,400
Speaker 1: I was. Like my trainer always says like she was like,

230
00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:09,800
Speaker 1: if you want to be long and lean, She's like,

231
00:12:09,840 --> 00:12:11,319
Speaker 1: you have to run. I'm like, I hate running. I

232
00:12:11,400 --> 00:12:13,240
Speaker 1: don't like doing it. Last time I did it, like

233
00:12:13,520 --> 00:12:16,000
Speaker 1: with the half marathon. But now, girl, I tell you

234
00:12:16,040 --> 00:12:21,000
Speaker 1: what it's been. It's how I've been able to maintain um.

235
00:12:21,040 --> 00:12:22,839
Speaker 1: But I will say I was the same way I

236
00:12:23,200 --> 00:12:25,440
Speaker 1: gained weight for like the first month I was eating

237
00:12:25,440 --> 00:12:27,199
Speaker 1: a lot and then all of a sudden, it just

238
00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:30,360
Speaker 1: kind of like sheds, So like give it, give it

239
00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:36,280
Speaker 1: a month, and she's like, I'm sorry. I've never I've

240
00:12:36,360 --> 00:12:38,199
Speaker 1: never had a situation where I'm like, oh my god,

241
00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:41,920
Speaker 1: I stopped drinking and it melted or like gastating, just

242
00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:44,520
Speaker 1: like fell off of me, like I've never My body

243
00:12:44,640 --> 00:12:47,160
Speaker 1: is just like hold on for dear life, like to

244
00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:51,320
Speaker 1: any fat you have. It's crazy. If I've been trying

245
00:12:51,400 --> 00:12:54,680
Speaker 1: so hard, like I got nutrition as a trainer, I've

246
00:12:54,679 --> 00:12:56,720
Speaker 1: lost all my baby weight and then some. But I

247
00:12:56,760 --> 00:12:58,960
Speaker 1: want to go now to like where I've never been before,

248
00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:02,360
Speaker 1: and I'm plat towing and I'm stuck here and I'm like,

249
00:13:02,520 --> 00:13:04,640
Speaker 1: Ma'm I'm doing nothing wrong, Like why aren't I losing

250
00:13:04,640 --> 00:13:06,520
Speaker 1: my one pound a week like the healthy way? What's

251
00:13:06,559 --> 00:13:09,360
Speaker 1: going on? Right? And stuck and I don't know what.

252
00:13:09,440 --> 00:13:12,880
Speaker 1: I've started taking bar class, like I'm doing nothing wrong,

253
00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:16,679
Speaker 1: but my body is just like hold hold seriously, just

254
00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:19,400
Speaker 1: give it, give it, give yourself two months of running

255
00:13:19,760 --> 00:13:22,800
Speaker 1: and then let me know, just do it for for

256
00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:24,960
Speaker 1: two months, like just like give it a try. But no,

257
00:13:25,080 --> 00:13:26,880
Speaker 1: I mean I feel like I mean, I didn't breastfeed

258
00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:29,199
Speaker 1: when I had my baby. How long did you breastfeed for?

259
00:13:30,320 --> 00:13:35,160
Speaker 1: I like pumped for second that three months and then

260
00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:37,320
Speaker 1: I thought like it'll shut off. It took a month

261
00:13:37,320 --> 00:13:39,640
Speaker 1: to shut off. So I tell people like I pumped

262
00:13:39,640 --> 00:13:44,720
Speaker 1: for four months, like I did the same thing. I don't.

263
00:13:44,920 --> 00:13:46,440
Speaker 1: I don't know have a pump. I was just like, no,

264
00:13:46,559 --> 00:13:48,719
Speaker 1: I just couldn't do it. Well, my dude, my I

265
00:13:48,760 --> 00:13:51,920
Speaker 1: don't know how like intense you'll get. But my doctor

266
00:13:52,040 --> 00:13:56,040
Speaker 1: or the the boob doctor or whatever lactation specialists was like,

267
00:13:56,120 --> 00:13:58,760
Speaker 1: your nipples are too small. And I was like, excuse me,

268
00:13:59,559 --> 00:14:02,880
Speaker 1: what do you hey? Wait what yea? So I had

269
00:14:02,920 --> 00:14:08,480
Speaker 1: to have like the little pastic Yeah. It was a nightmare.

270
00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:12,040
Speaker 1: And he wasn't gaining weight. He wasn't gaining weight, and

271
00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:14,640
Speaker 1: my baby wasn't And the doctor was like, let's just

272
00:14:14,640 --> 00:14:17,240
Speaker 1: like give up. And I was like, great, thank you. Well,

273
00:14:17,280 --> 00:14:19,800
Speaker 1: it's like it's so much more stressful. I remember I'm

274
00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:22,440
Speaker 1: recently divorced, but at the time I was married, and

275
00:14:22,520 --> 00:14:24,200
Speaker 1: my husband was like, what are you doing? Why are

276
00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:26,360
Speaker 1: you doing? You are stressed out? Like just stop, like

277
00:14:26,480 --> 00:14:28,200
Speaker 1: to stop because it's like for my first one, I

278
00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:30,800
Speaker 1: didn't breastfeed, so when I had my second, I'm like, Okay,

279
00:14:30,840 --> 00:14:32,960
Speaker 1: I need to do this because that makes me a mom, right,

280
00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:35,560
Speaker 1: Like I need to breastfeed until a year old or whatever.

281
00:14:36,280 --> 00:14:38,800
Speaker 1: And then I'm trying. It wasn't latching, didn't know what

282
00:14:38,800 --> 00:14:40,360
Speaker 1: the heck I was doing. I had like this pump

283
00:14:40,400 --> 00:14:42,320
Speaker 1: on me and I was just like bawling my eyes out,

284
00:14:42,360 --> 00:14:44,080
Speaker 1: and he was just like, you don't have to do that,

285
00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:46,280
Speaker 1: like you're stressing yourself out for no reason. But like,

286
00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:47,920
Speaker 1: but then I'm not a mom, and like what if

287
00:14:47,920 --> 00:14:53,200
Speaker 1: he's going to get sick? And Catherine, my husband, was

288
00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:56,400
Speaker 1: like please stop like begging me, And I was like,

289
00:14:56,920 --> 00:14:59,240
Speaker 1: they say that you just gotta get like three months in,

290
00:14:59,320 --> 00:15:03,240
Speaker 1: so let me get How is it though? Like what's

291
00:15:03,240 --> 00:15:06,880
Speaker 1: been the most challenging thing as a new mom for you? Um?

292
00:15:07,040 --> 00:15:09,560
Speaker 1: I like those are the challenging, Like the three months.

293
00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:12,160
Speaker 1: The first three months is tough. Um. And they saw

294
00:15:12,280 --> 00:15:14,160
Speaker 1: he saw me like because they live with me. My

295
00:15:14,240 --> 00:15:16,720
Speaker 1: cue bros live with me. So one morning I walked

296
00:15:16,760 --> 00:15:20,280
Speaker 1: out like miserable and it's eight am, and he's like,

297
00:15:20,560 --> 00:15:23,200
Speaker 1: why are you up at eight? And I was like, hey,

298
00:15:23,240 --> 00:15:28,480
Speaker 1: what it's like so early. I was like, are you joking? Right? God?

299
00:15:30,640 --> 00:15:34,360
Speaker 1: I was like, I don't have a choice, like lives

300
00:15:34,440 --> 00:15:38,880
Speaker 1: or doesn't. So how is that? Zombies? Right? All these

301
00:15:38,920 --> 00:15:42,960
Speaker 1: poor people? How is marriage life changed? Married life changed

302
00:15:42,960 --> 00:15:46,520
Speaker 1: for you? Since? Haven't they? Actually? Like we're weirdos. We're

303
00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:49,800
Speaker 1: like like look at us in this painting. We're like

304
00:15:50,080 --> 00:15:54,280
Speaker 1: we're so mate lovers supposed to be bonded together for life. Um,

305
00:15:55,480 --> 00:15:58,640
Speaker 1: we're strange. We I feel like we've gotten closer, especially

306
00:15:58,640 --> 00:16:01,400
Speaker 1: now that the babies in his own, Like every night

307
00:16:01,400 --> 00:16:03,120
Speaker 1: that we go to bed, we go to bed early

308
00:16:03,280 --> 00:16:06,840
Speaker 1: because it's the best, and we um, it's like date night.

309
00:16:07,120 --> 00:16:09,480
Speaker 1: Like the giggle and no one makes me laugh as

310
00:16:09,560 --> 00:16:11,960
Speaker 1: much as this goofy dude, and we just like giggle

311
00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:16,560
Speaker 1: and laugh and like love you don't mind. So I

312
00:16:16,600 --> 00:16:19,360
Speaker 1: just love that because you're never you will never remember

313
00:16:19,440 --> 00:16:21,960
Speaker 1: this story. But we were at UM I used to

314
00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:23,960
Speaker 1: be signed over at Warner and we were at an

315
00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:28,960
Speaker 1: after party at Warner, remember remember Um, And we were

316
00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:31,400
Speaker 1: having a conversation and you were just like who you

317
00:16:31,400 --> 00:16:33,120
Speaker 1: were saying, like how you're single, and You're like, I'm

318
00:16:33,160 --> 00:16:35,360
Speaker 1: just never going to find anyone. I'm gonna be alone forever.

319
00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:37,920
Speaker 1: And I'm like, Megan, no, you will not, like you're beautiful,

320
00:16:38,080 --> 00:16:39,640
Speaker 1: like you're going to be fine, and she's just like,

321
00:16:39,800 --> 00:16:42,240
Speaker 1: but you were like seriously, like there's nobody here. I'm like,

322
00:16:42,400 --> 00:16:44,720
Speaker 1: he's not here for you. I promise you he's not here.

323
00:16:44,920 --> 00:16:47,240
Speaker 1: But we had like this like conversation where I'm like,

324
00:16:47,520 --> 00:16:49,360
Speaker 1: but you were so defeated. You're like, I'm never going

325
00:16:49,400 --> 00:16:51,880
Speaker 1: to find love, and it's like, yes you are. It's

326
00:16:51,920 --> 00:16:57,400
Speaker 1: just yes. I cried about it. I like, but then

327
00:16:57,400 --> 00:17:04,320
Speaker 1: I tell because I would like because I wasn't even

328
00:17:04,359 --> 00:17:06,960
Speaker 1: like getting I wasn't even like hooking up guys, Like

329
00:17:07,000 --> 00:17:10,560
Speaker 1: guys are terrified to talk to me. I'm spooky. And

330
00:17:10,560 --> 00:17:12,359
Speaker 1: I was like, Ryan, what's up with it? Like I

331
00:17:12,480 --> 00:17:16,159
Speaker 1: give up a don't just talk to me energy. He's like,

332
00:17:16,400 --> 00:17:18,760
Speaker 1: you're just like loud and boss and you control the

333
00:17:18,840 --> 00:17:20,840
Speaker 1: room when you walk in, which is a very good thing.

334
00:17:20,880 --> 00:17:23,160
Speaker 1: It's not a negative thing at all. Yeah, it's awesome,

335
00:17:23,200 --> 00:17:25,240
Speaker 1: but it's scars guy's away. And Darrel was the first

336
00:17:25,240 --> 00:17:26,960
Speaker 1: guy that wasn't afraid of me, And I was like,

337
00:17:27,240 --> 00:17:29,119
Speaker 1: look at you, a little bray boy, So who do

338
00:17:29,160 --> 00:17:30,840
Speaker 1: you say to the girls? Then that are listening, that

339
00:17:30,840 --> 00:17:33,800
Speaker 1: are kind of that were you five, five or six

340
00:17:33,840 --> 00:17:36,800
Speaker 1: years ago? That was that there's somebody for everybody here,

341
00:17:36,800 --> 00:17:40,280
Speaker 1: and like, I don't know. Everyone told me like the

342
00:17:40,359 --> 00:17:43,439
Speaker 1: second you stopped thinking about it, it's gonna happen. That

343
00:17:43,640 --> 00:17:46,280
Speaker 1: wasn't true for me. I cried out to the universe.

344
00:17:46,359 --> 00:17:49,240
Speaker 1: I manifested that. I remember crying and uber with my

345
00:17:49,280 --> 00:17:53,000
Speaker 1: best friend and was like, where is he already in

346
00:17:53,040 --> 00:17:55,560
Speaker 1: my life? And then like a week later I got

347
00:17:55,600 --> 00:17:57,199
Speaker 1: set up on a date with him and I was like,

348
00:17:57,280 --> 00:17:59,879
Speaker 1: there you are? You know. I just I'm like, he

349
00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:03,280
Speaker 1: just out there making silly mistakes, Like did you say

350
00:18:03,320 --> 00:18:04,960
Speaker 1: that to him? Like, Hi, you do? You don't know this,

351
00:18:05,080 --> 00:18:07,199
Speaker 1: but like you're my future husband? Oh yeah, I tell

352
00:18:07,280 --> 00:18:09,520
Speaker 1: him all time. I'm like, where're the f were you? Like?

353
00:18:09,960 --> 00:18:12,800
Speaker 1: I needed you? So oh my goodness, I don't know.

354
00:18:12,840 --> 00:18:15,840
Speaker 1: I like manifesting and saying stuff out loud that I wanted.

355
00:18:16,880 --> 00:18:18,720
Speaker 1: I remember someone once told me write a letter to

356
00:18:18,760 --> 00:18:21,639
Speaker 1: God and say everything that you want in this person,

357
00:18:22,080 --> 00:18:23,720
Speaker 1: and I did and he didn't send me him. But

358
00:18:23,800 --> 00:18:29,680
Speaker 1: maybe it's fine. It's fine. I'm gonna rewrite that letter

359
00:18:29,720 --> 00:18:33,200
Speaker 1: and see if we can just add write maybe he

360
00:18:33,240 --> 00:18:37,600
Speaker 1: still is, though I mean it's not it's not your tibe.

361
00:18:38,040 --> 00:18:40,400
Speaker 1: May I addressed it to the wrong heaven. I don't

362
00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:44,600
Speaker 1: know off the mail. Yeah, but here's the thing about

363
00:18:44,600 --> 00:18:46,440
Speaker 1: the nice guy. Do you really want the nice guy?

364
00:18:46,480 --> 00:18:50,120
Speaker 1: Because I had yes, yes, yes, yes, ma'am. I want

365
00:18:50,119 --> 00:18:52,040
Speaker 1: them up. Who will open that door for me when

366
00:18:52,040 --> 00:18:54,359
Speaker 1: I get to the car? Okay, that's different. That's different

367
00:18:54,359 --> 00:18:56,399
Speaker 1: than nice though. I feel like that is just what

368
00:18:56,440 --> 00:18:58,160
Speaker 1: a man should do. They should open the car door.

369
00:18:59,160 --> 00:19:02,360
Speaker 1: I think that's like he sees how I work every day,

370
00:19:02,359 --> 00:19:05,120
Speaker 1: and it's like it makes me breakfast in bed, like

371
00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:08,320
Speaker 1: that morning, makes my coffee, makes my smoothie is about

372
00:19:08,359 --> 00:19:11,000
Speaker 1: to get here. In the beginning, I was like this

373
00:19:11,080 --> 00:19:16,879
Speaker 1: kids too nice, like somewhere my Yeah, he used to

374
00:19:17,080 --> 00:19:18,960
Speaker 1: want to be friends and my he does want to

375
00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:20,640
Speaker 1: be friends with my bros. And he would be like

376
00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:22,960
Speaker 1: to my younger brother like, hey, sometime if you want

377
00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:26,160
Speaker 1: to get drinks, like like, I'll take you out and

378
00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:29,280
Speaker 1: we can hang out. And Justin's like ill, like why

379
00:19:29,320 --> 00:19:31,960
Speaker 1: does he want to be nice to me? And I

380
00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:37,240
Speaker 1: was like, it's just because they're East Coast, like what

381
00:19:37,359 --> 00:19:40,679
Speaker 1: you wrote from me? And how long have y' all

382
00:19:40,720 --> 00:19:44,879
Speaker 1: been together now like over five years now, and he

383
00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:48,400
Speaker 1: like still brings you coffee and everything. That's the new thing. Yeah,

384
00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:51,840
Speaker 1: we get because in my pregnancy I had just sational diabetes,

385
00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:54,600
Speaker 1: but I was also promoting an entire Christmas album, so

386
00:19:54,640 --> 00:19:56,840
Speaker 1: I was not stop going and you have to eat

387
00:19:56,880 --> 00:20:00,280
Speaker 1: to keep your blood sugar ruddy regular and he would

388
00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:02,560
Speaker 1: like literally provide me with my meals and he just

389
00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:05,080
Speaker 1: like kept that going. And I was like, well, this

390
00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:08,000
Speaker 1: ain't a bad gig, Like let's keep this up. And

391
00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:11,840
Speaker 1: now it just does it every day. Okay, that's so sweet. Yeah,

392
00:20:11,880 --> 00:20:14,440
Speaker 1: because I feel like and he's not like a pushover,

393
00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:16,720
Speaker 1: because that's that's so that's different, I think between a

394
00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:18,960
Speaker 1: nice guy and then someone who just says like, let's

395
00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:22,560
Speaker 1: you do whatever you want. No, Yeah, And we communicate everything.

396
00:20:22,760 --> 00:20:25,480
Speaker 1: That's a big thing with us. Like if we feel

397
00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:28,160
Speaker 1: any way about anything, we tell each other and we're

398
00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:30,960
Speaker 1: like this makes me uncomfortable or don't do this, or

399
00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:34,480
Speaker 1: like from the beginning. So I think that's what we

400
00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:36,439
Speaker 1: just can like read each other's thoughts now, you know,

401
00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:39,919
Speaker 1: and that so are you what do you and your

402
00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:45,679
Speaker 1: brother working on? Wearing me on a podcast? Letting us

403
00:20:45,760 --> 00:20:51,959
Speaker 1: come on your amazing iconic podcast. Yeah, we're I know

404
00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:54,760
Speaker 1: everyone and their parents have a podcast, but we just

405
00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:56,879
Speaker 1: want to be the next one that has a podcast.

406
00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:02,480
Speaker 1: It's also for me, it's like really great family therapy

407
00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:05,720
Speaker 1: that I've never had that I always wanted. Um, we're

408
00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:09,600
Speaker 1: all great, but like, he refuses to see a therapist,

409
00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:11,160
Speaker 1: and I feel like there's a lot of deep rooted

410
00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:13,960
Speaker 1: stuff in here, and I'm like, well, let's like let's

411
00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:16,840
Speaker 1: talk about it on a podcast for the Okay, Well,

412
00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:18,600
Speaker 1: hold on a second now that you just brought that up,

413
00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:21,879
Speaker 1: because I'm a very I'm real big into the therapy world.

414
00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:24,120
Speaker 1: Why why do you not want to see a therapist?

415
00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:28,560
Speaker 1: I mean, I try it out. One guy you have

416
00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:34,680
Speaker 1: that's like, yeah, I've had like ten bad ones. Your

417
00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:38,240
Speaker 1: sister is a just like when my therapist always says

418
00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:40,000
Speaker 1: that you have to have those people that hold you accountable,

419
00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:42,199
Speaker 1: but you need that one person that you have that

420
00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:44,479
Speaker 1: you can go to and just yes, obviously you can

421
00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:46,800
Speaker 1: tell Megan everything. She's your sister, but there are things

422
00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:50,400
Speaker 1: that my brother's also my best friend. But there are

423
00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:53,920
Speaker 1: certain things that I just I might I could maybe

424
00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:57,200
Speaker 1: get a different side. Yeah, like when when you have

425
00:21:57,240 --> 00:21:59,840
Speaker 1: a problem with me, you don't want to like bring

426
00:21:59,840 --> 00:22:02,600
Speaker 1: it to me first. You know, you could bring that

427
00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:04,399
Speaker 1: to someone be like how can I approach Megan with

428
00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:06,000
Speaker 1: this issue that I have with her? But I think

429
00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:07,520
Speaker 1: I'm getting a little better with my issues. And I

430
00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:11,840
Speaker 1: used to drink heavily. Yeah I really sobered up like

431
00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:16,480
Speaker 1: three months ago, bottle everything up. So that's where I'm

432
00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:20,360
Speaker 1: working on, working on that. And yeah, just I'm trying

433
00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:27,840
Speaker 1: to grow up. How old are you? Yeah, you're so cute?

434
00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:34,359
Speaker 1: Are are you married? Emotionally we're like okay, okay, he

435
00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:36,320
Speaker 1: had like one girlfriend in high school and then like

436
00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:39,760
Speaker 1: never had anything, like really I had the classic like

437
00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:42,800
Speaker 1: you know, six months and then it fizzles out. It's

438
00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:46,320
Speaker 1: you know, that's been my repeated process. But you know,

439
00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:48,320
Speaker 1: now I'm trying to switch it up and look for

440
00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:51,560
Speaker 1: something well, and I think that's you know, awesome that

441
00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:54,800
Speaker 1: you're wanting to do this podcast then, because you'll probably

442
00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:57,200
Speaker 1: be able to get awesome you know therapists on the show.

443
00:22:57,240 --> 00:23:00,400
Speaker 1: But you know, just when you here's an I think

444
00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:04,760
Speaker 1: I've realized that if you you attract what you are,

445
00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:06,600
Speaker 1: so if you're in a healthy place, you're going to

446
00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:08,919
Speaker 1: attract someone healthy. So if you're if you start therapy

447
00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:11,720
Speaker 1: now and you start working on yourself and obviously you

448
00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:14,199
Speaker 1: know you stop drinking, that's an amazing first step, but

449
00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:17,199
Speaker 1: to really go into it and see, like, okay, what

450
00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:19,960
Speaker 1: are my childhood wounds? What? Like you know, why am

451
00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:22,359
Speaker 1: I the way that I know I can playing? But

452
00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:24,760
Speaker 1: like you start to really and then you're gonna attract

453
00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:26,960
Speaker 1: someone that is going to be on that same level.

454
00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:30,800
Speaker 1: And that's the relationship that you're gonna want, and that's

455
00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:34,120
Speaker 1: the woman we want to let any now, I feel

456
00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:36,840
Speaker 1: like a big sister too right now. So I'm like,

457
00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:41,280
Speaker 1: he's gonna learn so much in all these podcasts, and

458
00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:43,879
Speaker 1: what scares you about it? I don't want to. I

459
00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:49,000
Speaker 1: don't want to. Like the third episode was the sobriety

460
00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:51,080
Speaker 1: episode is not out yet but it will be soon.

461
00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:55,119
Speaker 1: And he literally like you could feel the room get thicker.

462
00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:57,920
Speaker 1: He got so hot, and like there's a moment where

463
00:23:57,920 --> 00:23:59,960
Speaker 1: the lights got messed up and he had to fix

464
00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:01,280
Speaker 1: say and he turned to me and he's like, I

465
00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:03,199
Speaker 1: hate this. I hate this. I hate this, And I

466
00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:04,600
Speaker 1: was like, this is good for you. I know it's

467
00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:06,960
Speaker 1: uncomfortable but you're gonna feel so much better when it's out.

468
00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:10,240
Speaker 1: And it was incredible because there was stuff that happened

469
00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:12,560
Speaker 1: that we our entire family didn't know about and we're

470
00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:16,760
Speaker 1: together every day, so it was a really it's it's

471
00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:18,840
Speaker 1: it's great for us to to know, like, oh, he

472
00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:21,760
Speaker 1: needed to get sober. Yeah. I think doing it publicly

473
00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:24,600
Speaker 1: it keeps me more accountable. You know, it's not like

474
00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:28,359
Speaker 1: just for me now. Yeah, the marathon was like our

475
00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:30,600
Speaker 1: friend's idea to keep him like have a goal and

476
00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:33,760
Speaker 1: have something to do. Yeah, I could run away from

477
00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:36,399
Speaker 1: all my demons. Yeah. Sure. And the only thing that

478
00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:39,800
Speaker 1: I'll like that I'll say is just don't stay in

479
00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:42,280
Speaker 1: your shame around it, because when you stay in your shame,

480
00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:45,040
Speaker 1: then that's because when you go out. And because my

481
00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:47,120
Speaker 1: ex who was on the show, he came out saying

482
00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:49,760
Speaker 1: he was a sex addict, but I think we're he

483
00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:52,320
Speaker 1: struggled with it talking publicly about it was because he

484
00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:55,919
Speaker 1: stayed in a shame. So then that's when you can

485
00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:59,200
Speaker 1: find yourself relapsing and you can find yourself repeating patterns.

486
00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:02,280
Speaker 1: So it's you share your story, which you have and

487
00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:04,960
Speaker 1: that's amazing, but don't allow yourself to stay in that

488
00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:07,159
Speaker 1: place of shame that you are bad, that you aren't

489
00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:10,399
Speaker 1: good enough, that you aren't worthy, because then you're gonna

490
00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:12,520
Speaker 1: so look at it in a way like, look how

491
00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:14,680
Speaker 1: many people I'm going to help? Look at how many

492
00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:17,480
Speaker 1: people are going to like champion my journey? And then

493
00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:20,960
Speaker 1: that way you'll feel better about talking about the situation

494
00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:25,239
Speaker 1: because you're not being You're not filled with shame and

495
00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:26,919
Speaker 1: you're not doing the things. And I think because my

496
00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:29,399
Speaker 1: husband was still acting out, so that's like why he

497
00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:32,119
Speaker 1: stayed in his shame and was not being authentic to

498
00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:35,080
Speaker 1: our listeners. So if you are authentic and you are

499
00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:38,040
Speaker 1: doing the work, you will not have that shame. So

500
00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:39,520
Speaker 1: just make sure you stay in that and be true

501
00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:46,119
Speaker 1: to yourself. It's my only Oh my god, are so

502
00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:54,720
Speaker 1: you single? Now? I'm in the dating realm, but I know, yeah,

503
00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:56,960
Speaker 1: are you trying to set me up with your brother?

504
00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:03,280
Speaker 1: She's pretty woman? I mean, I'm like ten years older

505
00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:05,040
Speaker 1: than you and I've got two kids, so would you?

506
00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:09,400
Speaker 1: Uh um, what what is it called? The psychic told

507
00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:11,399
Speaker 1: him he was gonna have a baby when he's thirty,

508
00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:14,959
Speaker 1: So well, I mean, this is a clothes shop, but

509
00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:19,800
Speaker 1: you know, you never know. Well, I'm just so freaking

510
00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:21,639
Speaker 1: happy for you. I think that's that's great. And now

511
00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:23,320
Speaker 1: are you going to have other family members on two

512
00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:26,960
Speaker 1: to kind of talk about more family dynamics or yeah,

513
00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:31,240
Speaker 1: we have a fatherhood episode and my husband never really

514
00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:33,800
Speaker 1: had a dad. Their dad left when he was like

515
00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:38,359
Speaker 1: an infant, so he learned all his fathering from my dad.

516
00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:41,280
Speaker 1: So it was really cool to talk to them about that.

517
00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:44,440
Speaker 1: And my my husband's working on being a dad and

518
00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:47,360
Speaker 1: being like really a stay at home dad while I'm

519
00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:50,200
Speaker 1: out working every day and he's just like the best

520
00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:53,120
Speaker 1: at it. So, um, that was a fun episode. We'd

521
00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:57,120
Speaker 1: have a fun episode about dating, especially dating on apps

522
00:26:57,240 --> 00:27:02,680
Speaker 1: Nowaday Los Angeles. Um, and we interviewed our younger brother.

523
00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:06,920
Speaker 1: He's twenty five and he just started dating because he's

524
00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:14,239
Speaker 1: just like shy and sweet and insecurity. I was like,

525
00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:17,200
Speaker 1: I was on Riot for like a hot second, and

526
00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:23,840
Speaker 1: I was like, here, I think it's still on Riya

527
00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:28,080
Speaker 1: because I don't know if I really canceled it. But

528
00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:30,399
Speaker 1: my younger brother has also never been on social media,

529
00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:34,000
Speaker 1: Like that's how shy and like he is, so like

530
00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:37,240
Speaker 1: him dating women on there, I'm like, that's not like

531
00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:39,120
Speaker 1: you don't have to tell them everything, you know. It's

532
00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:42,159
Speaker 1: like a weird, a weird thing to learn. And then

533
00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:45,720
Speaker 1: I interviewed my makeup artists who's like stunning ten out

534
00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:49,320
Speaker 1: of ten, like still struggling to find her soul me

535
00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:51,800
Speaker 1: out here in l A and she's like the games

536
00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:56,320
Speaker 1: that these guys play to get into that do you

537
00:27:56,320 --> 00:28:01,160
Speaker 1: ever feel how do I say this that people might

538
00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:03,760
Speaker 1: want to hang around your brothers for the wrong reasons

539
00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:06,360
Speaker 1: because of who you are. That's that's the other spooky

540
00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:09,119
Speaker 1: part of my younger brother, especially on the dating apps,

541
00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:11,680
Speaker 1: like he has I let him use one picture of

542
00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:13,800
Speaker 1: us as a family because he doesn't have a lot

543
00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:16,520
Speaker 1: of pictures of himself. Um So I was like, you

544
00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:18,600
Speaker 1: can use us in there, and they obviously like hit

545
00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:20,360
Speaker 1: him up, like some of them have been like I'm

546
00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:24,520
Speaker 1: a singer and I'm like next, Like like one day

547
00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:27,280
Speaker 1: he had like they wanted to record in my studio

548
00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:30,199
Speaker 1: and I'm like style. But he doesn't see that as

549
00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:32,840
Speaker 1: they're using him, and so it's like a weird place

550
00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:35,680
Speaker 1: of having to educate him of like you don't understand

551
00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:39,120
Speaker 1: like how psycho people can be online and you don't

552
00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:41,280
Speaker 1: know who they are. And you have to be really protective.

553
00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:45,040
Speaker 1: I think that's like another thing I feel like that

554
00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:48,040
Speaker 1: you had to go through. Well, yeah, but I'm pretty

555
00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:50,520
Speaker 1: good at picking up on those cues, and I'm very

556
00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:53,000
Speaker 1: easily to just like ghosts. But there's been moments like

557
00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:55,680
Speaker 1: when he was drinking and partying, he would have like

558
00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:58,200
Speaker 1: the party girls come over and they like filmed the

559
00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:00,360
Speaker 1: whole backyard, but then they would never come back again.

560
00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:06,240
Speaker 1: I go back again. Yeah, okay, So and then the

561
00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:09,160
Speaker 1: podcast when does it come out? What's it called? It

562
00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:13,760
Speaker 1: came out September and called working on It, Love It

563
00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:17,200
Speaker 1: and it's Yeah. You can also you can hear it anywhere,

564
00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:19,440
Speaker 1: and you can also watch the whole video of us

565
00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:23,720
Speaker 1: recording it on YouTube. Oh I love that temporary space

566
00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:26,640
Speaker 1: studio is done. We're literally in his apartment and it

567
00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:30,360
Speaker 1: looks jankie and like the green screen from Amazon, like

568
00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:33,960
Speaker 1: but we're trying. No, it's great. I just got the

569
00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:37,080
Speaker 1: sign hung just the other day, Like just the other day.

570
00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:42,040
Speaker 1: My mom is like, when do I order it? No?

571
00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:47,880
Speaker 1: That is so cute. Oh, Like my mom is like,

572
00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:51,640
Speaker 1: I bought ten. I just love y'all's relationship. But just

573
00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:53,560
Speaker 1: I'm gonna call my brother after this, because I just

574
00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:56,360
Speaker 1: it's like it's the best. I don't want them to

575
00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:59,720
Speaker 1: live anywhere by my house. No, not at all. Um. Well,

576
00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:02,480
Speaker 1: I I just appreciate you being vulnerable. I appreciate you

577
00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:04,760
Speaker 1: guys sharing both of your stories and putting it out

578
00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:06,400
Speaker 1: there because it's going to help a lot of people.

579
00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:09,640
Speaker 1: And um, I know that my Wine Down listeners will

580
00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:11,720
Speaker 1: definitely listen to y'all's podcast because you're going to keep

581
00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:13,760
Speaker 1: it authentic and you're going to share your life. So

582
00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:16,440
Speaker 1: just I appreciate that because I know, Megan, you're in

583
00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:18,560
Speaker 1: the spotlight, so that can be hard because people pick

584
00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:22,160
Speaker 1: apart literally everything you say. And I just love that

585
00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:25,479
Speaker 1: you're creating your own narrative and the truth and so

586
00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:27,520
Speaker 1: I just I really look up to for doing that.

587
00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:33,040
Speaker 1: And we're not going to stay in our shame. No girl, no, no, no, no, Well,

588
00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:35,800
Speaker 1: thank you guys. So fran Frand I didn't get to

589
00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:39,479
Speaker 1: hear you say anything, huh you'r Frand she didn't get

590
00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:46,479
Speaker 1: to say it's fine. I didn't ask how what else

591
00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:48,960
Speaker 1: are you working on? What else are you working on?

592
00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:53,560
Speaker 1: That's great? Also working on I want to do like

593
00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:55,880
Speaker 1: a whole episode about nutrition and what I've learned about

594
00:30:55,920 --> 00:31:06,280
Speaker 1: it and and acne in like everything. Yes, we have

595
00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:09,640
Speaker 1: a website working on it, working on it pod dot

596
00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:12,480
Speaker 1: com where you can submit questions and we'll dive in

597
00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:20,520
Speaker 1: there where else can the listeners find you? TikTok working

598
00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:24,560
Speaker 1: on But you have a you have a cooking show

599
00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:27,640
Speaker 1: that you're doing too, Oh my heart everywhere. I'm on

600
00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:29,760
Speaker 1: a cookie show. I can't cook. It's funny. I host

601
00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:34,280
Speaker 1: it Top to Family Style, There's Kids Peacock, and I'm

602
00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:36,760
Speaker 1: I'm on a judge on Clash of the Cover Bands,

603
00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:39,600
Speaker 1: where we literally judge cover bands and it's hilarious and

604
00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:41,840
Speaker 1: iconic and these people pour their hearts and souls into

605
00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:44,200
Speaker 1: their performances and I love it and I encourage everyone

606
00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:48,240
Speaker 1: to watch it. Amazing. Okay, cool, alright, thank you guys.

607
00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:52,440
Speaker 1: I appreciate you. Good luck at the marathon. You crushing Okay,

608
00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:57,800
Speaker 1: bye guys. Bye. I love her, She's so sweet, Like

609
00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:03,080
Speaker 1: what about your friend? I love that little dynamic is adorable.

610
00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:05,240
Speaker 1: Love them and I just love that he's going to

611
00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:07,560
Speaker 1: like that he's sharing a story and they're talking about

612
00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:10,800
Speaker 1: family had stuff, because hopefully that I'll get other people talking. Yeah,

613
00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:13,200
Speaker 1: that's great. By the way, your advice to him wasn't

614
00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:18,240
Speaker 1: really really great. Really you could just see like their

615
00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:20,720
Speaker 1: response to it, you know, like it you could you

616
00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:26,240
Speaker 1: could see that it really impacted them. Well, I yeah,

617
00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:28,720
Speaker 1: I will thank you because I kind of just blacked

618
00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:30,720
Speaker 1: out when I was saying all that it was really good.

619
00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:33,320
Speaker 1: You should go back and listen, but it was you know,

620
00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:35,360
Speaker 1: I just think back to when you know, my ex

621
00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:38,080
Speaker 1: was on here, and it's like, if you're not being authentic,

622
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:42,120
Speaker 1: you're going to obviously stay in shame if you're still

623
00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:44,200
Speaker 1: doing the things you're doing, and even if you're not

624
00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:46,720
Speaker 1: still doing the things you're doing, there's no reason to

625
00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:48,480
Speaker 1: stay in your shame because you're not a bad person,

626
00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:53,680
Speaker 1: are growing and getting healthier. Right. But well, and he

627
00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:55,800
Speaker 1: was an authentic so but hey, you learned from it

628
00:32:55,920 --> 00:33:01,080
Speaker 1: and you were able to pass on knowledge. But I'll

629
00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:10,280
Speaker 1: take your break and move back. So Sprit Society, I

630
00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:12,120
Speaker 1: have to tell you about these because we have these

631
00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:15,080
Speaker 1: amazing Sprits cocktails at our wine Down I Heeart Radio

632
00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:18,160
Speaker 1: Music Festival live pre show and they are so good.

633
00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:21,720
Speaker 1: Spirit Society is a new line of canned sparkling Sprits

634
00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:25,160
Speaker 1: cocktails with a base of a real wine and fused

635
00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:29,600
Speaker 1: with natural fruit flavors with a touch of fescence. Available

636
00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:33,240
Speaker 1: in four flavors, great Fruit, Lemonade, blood orange, and pineapple.

637
00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:35,160
Speaker 1: We actually had the pineapple and it was so good.

638
00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:38,840
Speaker 1: So they're available for purchase at Spirit Society dot com

639
00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:46,320
Speaker 1: or check out their Instagram um, Instagram dot com slash Sprits. Okay,

640
00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:49,800
Speaker 1: so they're awesome. I love them. Like what a fun

641
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:53,800
Speaker 1: like brother sister do o like kind of reminds me

642
00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:56,560
Speaker 1: of my brother, Like like he doesn't remind me my brother,

643
00:33:56,600 --> 00:33:59,040
Speaker 1: but like just like that like relationship and then like

644
00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:01,520
Speaker 1: living with her and she wants him around all the time,

645
00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:03,320
Speaker 1: Like that's so fun. It's like a party all the time.

646
00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:05,680
Speaker 1: She loved her energy. Do you think I was too

647
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:08,279
Speaker 1: hard on him with like the No, I think it

648
00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:10,120
Speaker 1: was great. You could see in his eyes he was

649
00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:14,080
Speaker 1: like huh, like you got him thinking, and she's like, yeah,

650
00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:15,560
Speaker 1: you got him. I just don't want him to like

651
00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:17,520
Speaker 1: carry the ship because I know what that does, you know,

652
00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:19,400
Speaker 1: And I know that like if when you have that

653
00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:22,880
Speaker 1: shame like and I think that's you know, I I wished,

654
00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:26,000
Speaker 1: you know, my X didn't carry that because maybe he

655
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:28,799
Speaker 1: could have been more of an honest person without it.

656
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:32,239
Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean that just like that makes me

657
00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:35,520
Speaker 1: sad for oh so I just don't want I don't

658
00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:39,120
Speaker 1: want anyone to carry shame. Just great advice. I need

659
00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:43,160
Speaker 1: to take my own advice again. Not that I'm not

660
00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:44,920
Speaker 1: that I'm carrying shame, but I just, you know, I

661
00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:48,600
Speaker 1: just I always like it's like trying to prove that

662
00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:51,080
Speaker 1: I'm like good enough, and it's like I I got

663
00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:53,160
Speaker 1: to prove him good enough to anyone but myself. I know,

664
00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:57,560
Speaker 1: like I know, I know, I know, I know. I

665
00:34:57,600 --> 00:35:01,480
Speaker 1: just keep telling yourself that eventually you that just takes

666
00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:05,160
Speaker 1: takes some time. I got an email before we wrap

667
00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:06,680
Speaker 1: out the show my husband. I have been trying to

668
00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:08,640
Speaker 1: start a family for over a year now. I've been

669
00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:11,360
Speaker 1: on infertility medication for a few months, but nothing has worked.

670
00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:14,600
Speaker 1: So our obie is recommending injections as our next step,

671
00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:17,759
Speaker 1: which also means going to a new doctor. Other than

672
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:21,239
Speaker 1: the consultation appointment. I've been going to appointments without my husband,

673
00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:22,960
Speaker 1: which has been fine, but since we are about to

674
00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:25,080
Speaker 1: see a new doctor and don't really know next steps,

675
00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:26,920
Speaker 1: I think he needs to be there with me. He, however,

676
00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:29,480
Speaker 1: doesn't want to take off work and doesn't see a

677
00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:32,040
Speaker 1: need to be there. I know he cares and is

678
00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:35,400
Speaker 1: eager to start a family too, So should that be enough? Janna,

679
00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:37,680
Speaker 1: As someone who has struggled with infertility, what are your thoughts?

680
00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:43,560
Speaker 1: It would I'm a little bit more of a sensitive person.

681
00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:46,239
Speaker 1: It would hurt my feelings that he wouldn't want to

682
00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:50,080
Speaker 1: be at the first appointment. I understand that, Like, there's

683
00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:52,400
Speaker 1: a lot of appointments and like my ex didn't go

684
00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:54,520
Speaker 1: to all of them with me, but like the first one,

685
00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:59,480
Speaker 1: the important ones, I think are they should like because

686
00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:01,200
Speaker 1: if not, your going to feel alone in it, and

687
00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:04,600
Speaker 1: like maybe expressed that to him to be like, hey,

688
00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:06,239
Speaker 1: I don't want to feel alone in this process. It

689
00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:08,319
Speaker 1: would mean a lot to me if you came to

690
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:13,120
Speaker 1: this first one so that I I don't feel alone.

691
00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:16,640
Speaker 1: I actually agree, Yeah, it would actually hurt my feelings too.

692
00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:19,279
Speaker 1: I think if it's definitely the first one, it's kind

693
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:21,960
Speaker 1: of like the first you know, I mean, you like

694
00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:24,160
Speaker 1: first pregnancy when you are I'm pregnant or whatever. It's

695
00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:26,319
Speaker 1: like you you're excited, you want them to be there.

696
00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:29,400
Speaker 1: There's a lot of information I would feel the same way.

697
00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:32,640
Speaker 1: But I think if you expressed that like you said

698
00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:35,200
Speaker 1: and say something, that's when it's kind of even more

699
00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:38,640
Speaker 1: important because you expressed that, like this means a lot

700
00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:40,600
Speaker 1: to me for you to come. And then if he

701
00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:43,680
Speaker 1: still doesn't want to come, then you know, that's also hurtful,

702
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:46,719
Speaker 1: you know, but hopefully he would understand then that how

703
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:50,160
Speaker 1: important it was to you. Yeah, I mean, and yeah,

704
00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:52,680
Speaker 1: hopefully he does, because that would that would that would

705
00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:56,120
Speaker 1: be hurtful. But I mean I understand not taking off work,

706
00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:58,440
Speaker 1: but again, like this is he doesn't need to go

707
00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:00,520
Speaker 1: to every appointment, like I never had my ex come

708
00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:02,239
Speaker 1: to like all the appointments where it's just like the

709
00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:04,160
Speaker 1: first and then like they were big ones and it's

710
00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:06,799
Speaker 1: just like a couple of hours, right Yeah, So I mean,

711
00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:10,200
Speaker 1: unless you just can't. I mean, maybe there's a reason

712
00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:12,440
Speaker 1: he can't take off work, but it's he's pretty sure.

713
00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:15,440
Speaker 1: It says he didn't want to. You know what, No

714
00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:18,520
Speaker 1: girl wants to inject their body with with you know,

715
00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:24,319
Speaker 1: needles and stuff. So show the F up. On that note,

716
00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:33,200
Speaker 1: have a great week. Show the f up this week. Okay, alright, Bye,