1 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:07,400 Speaker 1: Hey, this is Anny and Samantha and welcome to Stuff 2 00:00:07,400 --> 00:00:19,360 Speaker 1: I Ever Told You production. I Heart you, and welcome 3 00:00:19,560 --> 00:00:22,400 Speaker 1: to another classic Today we are bringing back one on 4 00:00:22,520 --> 00:00:28,360 Speaker 1: women and modern medicine. Unfortunately, this has been on my 5 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:31,120 Speaker 1: mind a lot because we are seeing a lot of 6 00:00:31,200 --> 00:00:35,040 Speaker 1: misinformation and dispreparation around health in the United States. I 7 00:00:35,080 --> 00:00:39,080 Speaker 1: have a lot of friends who work with governmental health 8 00:00:39,159 --> 00:00:42,360 Speaker 1: organizations that have been impacted by all of these things, 9 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:46,440 Speaker 1: So it's just been something on my mind. I know, 10 00:00:46,520 --> 00:00:49,279 Speaker 1: we talk about vaccines and here and things like that, 11 00:00:49,400 --> 00:00:52,239 Speaker 1: so it's something that is a big part of our 12 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:57,000 Speaker 1: conversations we're having right now. So that being said, please 13 00:00:57,120 --> 00:01:05,680 Speaker 1: enjoy this classic episode. Hey, this is Annie and Samantha. 14 00:01:05,880 --> 00:01:08,199 Speaker 1: I come to staphone never told your protection of iHeart 15 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:19,760 Speaker 1: Radio SD Samantha. Today, I have a two part question 16 00:01:19,800 --> 00:01:21,800 Speaker 1: for you. I think we've already talked about the first one, 17 00:01:22,360 --> 00:01:27,960 Speaker 1: but were you ever interested in a career in medicine? 18 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 2: Yeah? Actually I started out my college career with the 19 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:35,200 Speaker 2: idea that I was going to be pre med. I 20 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 2: knew I was going to be pre med. It also 21 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:38,679 Speaker 2: went along without wanting to be a missionary. But I 22 00:01:38,760 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 2: wasn't going to be a missionary without being actually helpful 23 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:45,600 Speaker 2: and actually saving lives hopefully. And then as I started 24 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:48,919 Speaker 2: doing all of my medical courses slash all of the sciences, 25 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:52,320 Speaker 2: I realized how bad I was at that and I 26 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:56,080 Speaker 2: barely passed chemistry, and I was like, let me find 27 00:01:56,120 --> 00:01:56,920 Speaker 2: another way to help. 28 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:01,880 Speaker 1: What was your goal? What was your how are you 29 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:04,240 Speaker 1: envisioning at working in that field. 30 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:08,800 Speaker 2: I was envisioning becoming a general practitioner, being able to 31 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:13,920 Speaker 2: co out in service and travel and help communities. I 32 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:19,799 Speaker 2: was thinking, you know, obviously traveling abroad where there's less access, 33 00:02:20,760 --> 00:02:24,080 Speaker 2: and I wanted to really be helpful. Probably doctors without 34 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 2: borders would have been my route m h and all that, 35 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:31,120 Speaker 2: thinking that I would be poor and hopefully you know, 36 00:02:31,320 --> 00:02:33,480 Speaker 2: going out in the world and helping. That was what 37 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:34,360 Speaker 2: I was envisioning. 38 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:37,120 Speaker 1: I see, I see, I see, Okay. And the second 39 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:40,320 Speaker 1: part of my question is are you or were you 40 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:43,800 Speaker 1: ever big into like medical TV shows? 41 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:45,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what, I think I got caught up 42 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:47,640 Speaker 2: an er for a little while, and maybe it was 43 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:50,960 Speaker 2: the soap opera bit that I liked George Clooney. Who 44 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 2: doesn't love George Clooney at that point in time, But 45 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:56,360 Speaker 2: I did watch that for a little while. Scrubs really 46 00:02:56,400 --> 00:03:00,359 Speaker 2: really enjoyed Scrubs. Who doesn't love people being self hating 47 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:02,800 Speaker 2: as well as saving lives and having some heart? 48 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:03,120 Speaker 1: You know? 49 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:04,840 Speaker 2: But yeah, I did you? 50 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:09,399 Speaker 1: Yeah I didn't really, but I did. I loved Scrubs 51 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:12,360 Speaker 1: and to this day, like I can quote Scrubs. I 52 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:15,920 Speaker 1: have the soundtrack. I was a huge Me and my 53 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:17,880 Speaker 1: friend group, we were really into Scrubs and it's funny, 54 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:21,799 Speaker 1: like one of my favorite episodes is the episode where 55 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:24,120 Speaker 1: they make fun of House, and I'd never seen House, 56 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:26,960 Speaker 1: so I didn't get half the jokes, but I still loved. 57 00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:30,880 Speaker 2: I'd watched a few episodes of House and I didn't 58 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:34,720 Speaker 2: get too caught up in that. But yeah, I did 59 00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:37,000 Speaker 2: you talk about soundtrack? I have to know have you 60 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:40,000 Speaker 2: watched any of it streaming since the original? 61 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:45,440 Speaker 1: I mean I owned the DVDs, so. 62 00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 2: You haven't watched it streaming because they changed some music 63 00:03:47,880 --> 00:03:51,720 Speaker 2: I don't know, share or whatever. But because I watched 64 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:54,720 Speaker 2: it so much, I knew what music would win, And 65 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:57,800 Speaker 2: now watching it on streaming, I'm like, wait that, Yeah, 66 00:03:57,920 --> 00:03:58,960 Speaker 2: that's not how that goes. 67 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:02,760 Speaker 1: Let me tell you, Samantha Supernatural, A lot of those 68 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 1: songs and not the same, and I'm always like, no, See. 69 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:11,120 Speaker 2: That's the one blessing that I do have is I 70 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:12,480 Speaker 2: don't know that you. 71 00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:15,080 Speaker 1: Can't Yeah, you can't compare, that's true. 72 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:17,560 Speaker 2: But with Scrubs I did because I was in that 73 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:22,599 Speaker 2: Netflix era of getting the DVDs. Yeah, oh yeah, and 74 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:26,479 Speaker 2: I would watch all the Scrubs through Netflix subscriptions and 75 00:04:26,520 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 2: now comparing it to our streaming network and the fact 76 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:33,400 Speaker 2: that songs have changed, like it, it's so notable that 77 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:35,279 Speaker 2: it distracts me from the rest of the show. 78 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:38,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, music is a really big part of that 79 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:39,479 Speaker 1: show exactly. 80 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:41,360 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, of course. 81 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:45,000 Speaker 1: Of course, that's why I got a sound dressed. They're 82 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 1: so good. 83 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:50,719 Speaker 3: I remember when was it Gray's Anatomy and Scrubs both 84 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:52,839 Speaker 3: had an episode in the same week that had the 85 00:04:52,920 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 3: phrase how to save a life and people were arguing 86 00:04:55,920 --> 00:04:57,800 Speaker 3: about who used it better. 87 00:04:58,560 --> 00:05:01,240 Speaker 2: But the scripturally used it for like a split second 88 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:05,479 Speaker 2: of like, no, not that song anyway. Are we talking 89 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:08,080 Speaker 2: about this because I keep talking about. 90 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:12,840 Speaker 1: That's for shured probably so to me. We're going to 91 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:17,360 Speaker 1: talk about women in medicine, and specifically modern medicine because 92 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:20,160 Speaker 1: more and more people are getting the vaccine, which is 93 00:05:20,279 --> 00:05:23,760 Speaker 1: very exciting. Yes, And yeah, we wanted to highlight some 94 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:27,719 Speaker 1: of the more recent accomplishments of women in this field. 95 00:05:28,440 --> 00:05:31,400 Speaker 1: And yeah, we've done episodes on women in nursing and 96 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:35,360 Speaker 1: medicine before, also women's pain being dismissed on the other 97 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:40,000 Speaker 1: side of that. But we wanted to showcase some women 98 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:42,359 Speaker 1: that you might not have heard of doing some really 99 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:45,320 Speaker 1: amazing things in the field of modern medicine. 100 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:48,159 Speaker 2: Yes, and we're all about giving flowers to those that 101 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:50,440 Speaker 2: are still with us today, Yes, but we wanted to 102 00:05:50,440 --> 00:05:52,080 Speaker 2: start out with some numbers. 103 00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:52,440 Speaker 1: Yeah. 104 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:55,960 Speaker 2: So throughout history and despite obstacles, women have been behind 105 00:05:56,040 --> 00:06:00,040 Speaker 2: medical innovations around blood transfusions, organ transplants, and all a 106 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:03,279 Speaker 2: lot of areas in reproductive health, says, the medical field 107 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:06,320 Speaker 2: has long ignored women. Women, of course, have had to 108 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:07,960 Speaker 2: make do for themselves. 109 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:11,159 Speaker 1: Yes, and while there are still disparities in terms of 110 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:13,640 Speaker 1: gender and race in the medical field, more and more 111 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:16,720 Speaker 1: women are entering it and shaping it at all levels 112 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:19,520 Speaker 1: and professions. Numbers from twenty fifteen indicate that in the 113 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:23,200 Speaker 1: United States, one third of active physicians are women, half 114 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:26,080 Speaker 1: of all new medical graduates are women, eighty eight percent 115 00:06:26,120 --> 00:06:29,000 Speaker 1: of nurse practitioners eighty three percent of nurses and sixty 116 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:33,440 Speaker 1: three percent of physician assistance. We've also talked about how 117 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:37,040 Speaker 1: women in medicine are more likely to experience issues around burnout, 118 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:42,320 Speaker 1: wage gap, discrimination, lack of mentors, maternity leave, and toxic environments, 119 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:45,919 Speaker 1: among other things, which are all issues that need to 120 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:48,960 Speaker 1: be addressed and also not isolated to the medical field. 121 00:06:48,960 --> 00:06:53,080 Speaker 1: But definitely a lot of articles, especially during the pandemic, 122 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:56,440 Speaker 1: have been written about burnout in particular, so that is 123 00:06:56,480 --> 00:07:00,640 Speaker 1: something that we need to keep an eye on. But 124 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 1: all right, let us start our list of women with 125 00:07:05,760 --> 00:07:09,600 Speaker 1: doctor Kismechia Corbette or doctor Kizzy Corbett. 126 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:11,560 Speaker 2: Who is a great Twitter followed by the way, if 127 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 2: you haven't started following her, she's fantastic. 128 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:17,800 Speaker 1: You should follow her absolutely. She is a thirty four 129 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 1: year old black woman who has been at the forefront 130 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:23,960 Speaker 1: of the fight against COVID nineteen. Corbett is one of 131 00:07:23,960 --> 00:07:26,600 Speaker 1: the top scientists working on who has been working on 132 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:29,840 Speaker 1: a COVID vaccine for the National Institutes of Health. She 133 00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:33,200 Speaker 1: and her team worked with pharmaceutical company Maderna to pioneer 134 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:36,840 Speaker 1: an mRNA vaccine, and this is a vaccine that has 135 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:41,840 Speaker 1: an efficacy rate of over ninety percent. Recently, when doctor 136 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:44,680 Speaker 1: Anthony Fauci was asked about the input of African American 137 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:48,480 Speaker 1: scientists on the vaccine, Fauci responded, the very vaccine that's 138 00:07:48,520 --> 00:07:52,559 Speaker 1: one of the two that has absolutely exquisite levels ninety 139 00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 1: four to ninety five percent efficacy against clinical disease and 140 00:07:55,880 --> 00:07:59,600 Speaker 1: almost one hundred percent eficcy against serious disease that are 141 00:07:59,640 --> 00:08:02,960 Speaker 1: shown to be clearly safe. That vaccine was actually developed 142 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:05,800 Speaker 1: in my institute's vaccine research Center by a team of 143 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 1: scientists led by doctor Barney Graham and his close colleague, 144 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:13,040 Speaker 1: doctor Kismikia Corbett r Kizziy Corbett Kizzy is an African 145 00:08:13,080 --> 00:08:15,720 Speaker 1: American scientist who's right at the forefront of the development 146 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:20,360 Speaker 1: of the vaccine. Doctor Corbett's talent, determination, curiosity, and empathy 147 00:08:20,400 --> 00:08:23,760 Speaker 1: manifested from a young age, and she secured awards and 148 00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:26,880 Speaker 1: monetary funding for her university studies, and she got a 149 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:29,320 Speaker 1: spot as an intern at the National Institutes of Health. 150 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:33,400 Speaker 1: For her PhD, she studied immunology and microbiology while also 151 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:38,040 Speaker 1: working as a research assistant studying viral infections. In twenty fourteen, 152 00:08:38,120 --> 00:08:42,000 Speaker 1: she took a post doc position at the NIH's Vaccine 153 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:46,160 Speaker 1: Research Center. In January twenty twenty, doctor Corbett received an 154 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:49,200 Speaker 1: email from one of her coworkers basically telling her and 155 00:08:49,240 --> 00:08:52,360 Speaker 1: her teammates to buckle up that their training was about 156 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:54,880 Speaker 1: to be put to use, and yes, yes it was. 157 00:08:55,280 --> 00:08:55,640 Speaker 2: It was. 158 00:08:55,880 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 1: Oh got Yes. Doctor Corbett has spoken about her experience 159 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:04,320 Speaker 1: as a black woman, a doctor and the importance of visibility. 160 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:06,760 Speaker 1: I felt like it was necessary to be seen and 161 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:09,040 Speaker 1: not to be a hidden figure, so to speak, she said. 162 00:09:09,360 --> 00:09:11,160 Speaker 1: I felt that it was important to do that because 163 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:13,760 Speaker 1: the level of visibility that it would have to younger 164 00:09:13,840 --> 00:09:16,520 Speaker 1: scientists and also to people of color who have often 165 00:09:16,559 --> 00:09:18,960 Speaker 1: worked behind the scenes and essentially who have done the 166 00:09:18,960 --> 00:09:21,959 Speaker 1: dirty work for these large efforts towards a vaccine. This 167 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:24,079 Speaker 1: person who looks like you has been working on this 168 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:26,040 Speaker 1: for several years, and I also wanted it to be 169 00:09:26,120 --> 00:09:29,079 Speaker 1: visible because I wanted people to understand that I stood 170 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:32,160 Speaker 1: by the work that I'd done for so long as well. 171 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:35,880 Speaker 1: And she's also been really vocal about the disproportionate impact 172 00:09:36,160 --> 00:09:40,160 Speaker 1: of COVID on black communities, and I think every woman 173 00:09:40,240 --> 00:09:42,680 Speaker 1: on here we could do a whole episode on like 174 00:09:42,720 --> 00:09:45,480 Speaker 1: we're doing kind of a brief bio in these but 175 00:09:45,920 --> 00:09:49,080 Speaker 1: her story is really inspiring and fascinating. And also Maderna 176 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:53,360 Speaker 1: is the vaccine that I am getting. So also by 177 00:09:53,480 --> 00:09:58,800 Speaker 1: Dolly Pardon, Yes, that was a legitimate reaction to. 178 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:01,200 Speaker 2: So many good things that And yeah, doctor Corbett has 179 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:04,920 Speaker 2: also been keeping a kind of thread on her Twitter 180 00:10:05,040 --> 00:10:09,079 Speaker 2: about her presenting about the vaccine and she has been 181 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:12,920 Speaker 2: a really big proponent in talking to the black community 182 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:16,280 Speaker 2: about what the vaccine is. And because let's be honest, 183 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:19,520 Speaker 2: there's a lot of distrust when it comes to medicine 184 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:24,240 Speaker 2: in the black community. Rightly so, yeah, rightly so, and 185 00:10:24,520 --> 00:10:27,200 Speaker 2: they should be suspicious and I would be suspicious. I 186 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:30,960 Speaker 2: am suspicious sometimes, I mean for sure. But she has 187 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:33,600 Speaker 2: been on the forefront and trying to talk about it 188 00:10:33,679 --> 00:10:36,720 Speaker 2: and how it is important and what she did and 189 00:10:36,920 --> 00:10:40,280 Speaker 2: making sure that this vaccine was safe and also that 190 00:10:40,320 --> 00:10:44,680 Speaker 2: it was accessible. So kudos to doctor Corbett. And now 191 00:10:44,800 --> 00:10:47,520 Speaker 2: we want to move on to doctor Rachel Sneersen born 192 00:10:47,559 --> 00:10:50,480 Speaker 2: in Warsaw, Poland in nineteen thirty two, who earned her 193 00:10:50,480 --> 00:10:53,880 Speaker 2: medical degree from Hadasa Medical School at the Hebrew University 194 00:10:53,880 --> 00:10:56,440 Speaker 2: in Jerusalem, and she was best known for her work 195 00:10:56,480 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 2: on the Himophilus influenze type B or hib which is 196 00:11:00,920 --> 00:11:03,440 Speaker 2: a bacterium that was one of the principal causes of 197 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:07,439 Speaker 2: meningitis and pneumonia and responsible for over three million serious 198 00:11:07,480 --> 00:11:10,880 Speaker 2: illnesses and over three hundred and seventy five thousand deaths 199 00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:13,520 Speaker 2: in children around the world. She came to work as 200 00:11:13,559 --> 00:11:16,520 Speaker 2: an instructor at the Albert Einstein College of Medicine for 201 00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:20,200 Speaker 2: the Department of Pediatrics and the Laboratory of Imminology. There 202 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:22,880 Speaker 2: she met doctor John B. Robbins, who would move on 203 00:11:22,960 --> 00:11:25,800 Speaker 2: to the Division of bacterial Products in nineteen seventy four 204 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:28,720 Speaker 2: and then came back round to the National Institute of 205 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:33,240 Speaker 2: Child Health Development or the NICHD in nineteen eighty three, 206 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:36,080 Speaker 2: and it was during this time doctor Schneerson and doctor 207 00:11:36,160 --> 00:11:39,040 Speaker 2: Robbins were able to help create the vaccine through use 208 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:42,120 Speaker 2: of conjugates, which helped make the vaccine safer and more 209 00:11:42,120 --> 00:11:44,760 Speaker 2: effective for younger children and as young as I believe 210 00:11:44,840 --> 00:11:48,480 Speaker 2: two months old, and this process of conjugating would later 211 00:11:48,520 --> 00:11:51,640 Speaker 2: be used to help create other vaccines for diseases such 212 00:11:51,640 --> 00:11:54,760 Speaker 2: as whooping cough, typhoid, and certain types of malaria, in 213 00:11:54,840 --> 00:11:58,920 Speaker 2: even anthrax, and through her work she has received many 214 00:11:58,960 --> 00:12:02,720 Speaker 2: different awards such as the Albert Laskar Clinical Medical Research 215 00:12:02,720 --> 00:12:06,800 Speaker 2: Award in ninety six, the World Health Organization Children's Vaccine Initiative, 216 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:10,800 Speaker 2: Pastor Award, Infectious Disease Society of American Citation Award, and 217 00:12:10,960 --> 00:12:14,360 Speaker 2: was also elated to the NICHD Hall of Honor, and 218 00:12:14,440 --> 00:12:16,360 Speaker 2: she was eventually named as head of the Section of 219 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:20,520 Speaker 2: Vectial Disease, pathogenicis and Immunity with doctor Robbins and finally 220 00:12:20,559 --> 00:12:23,760 Speaker 2: retired in twenty twelve. Wow. 221 00:12:24,520 --> 00:12:26,679 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a lot of awards. 222 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:30,199 Speaker 2: They saved a lot of lives and yet, by the way, 223 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:33,800 Speaker 2: the disease is fairly pretty much eradicated and has not 224 00:12:33,960 --> 00:12:37,320 Speaker 2: been seen by the new medical field that they have 225 00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:38,480 Speaker 2: not seen it since then. 226 00:12:38,880 --> 00:12:43,400 Speaker 1: Dang, Well, we have some more women we want to highlight, 227 00:12:43,559 --> 00:12:45,640 Speaker 1: but first we have a quick break for word from 228 00:12:45,640 --> 00:13:01,920 Speaker 1: her sponsor. Am were back, Thank you sponsor. Okay, So 229 00:13:02,040 --> 00:13:07,160 Speaker 1: now let's talk about Mary Geynan. Her story is amazing. 230 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:09,400 Speaker 1: I can't believe I hadn't heard it before. So after 231 00:13:09,440 --> 00:13:13,480 Speaker 1: earning her PhD in physiology, graduating from John Hopkins University 232 00:13:13,480 --> 00:13:17,000 Speaker 1: School of Medicine, and completing a residency, Doctor Geynan began 233 00:13:17,080 --> 00:13:20,480 Speaker 1: working at the Centers for Disease Control of Prevention in 234 00:13:20,559 --> 00:13:23,920 Speaker 1: nineteen seventy four, and this is when only ten percent 235 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:27,560 Speaker 1: of medical graduates were women. She started out in the 236 00:13:27,559 --> 00:13:31,640 Speaker 1: Epidemic Intelligence Service or the EIS, which is often described 237 00:13:32,040 --> 00:13:36,400 Speaker 1: by her too as the Medical FBI, where she studied 238 00:13:36,400 --> 00:13:39,800 Speaker 1: global disease outbreaks. She was the only woman of thirty 239 00:13:39,880 --> 00:13:43,559 Speaker 1: nine physicians. Through this, she helped out on a smallpox 240 00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:47,160 Speaker 1: eradication campaign and for her work, the World Health Organization 241 00:13:47,240 --> 00:13:50,840 Speaker 1: awarded her the Noble Order of the Bifurcated Needle in 242 00:13:50,960 --> 00:13:54,760 Speaker 1: nineteen seventy six. What a name, I tell you what 243 00:13:54,840 --> 00:13:58,720 Speaker 1: the name. But all of this was after her application 244 00:13:58,800 --> 00:14:03,319 Speaker 1: to volunteer with india smallpox eradication program was denied twice. 245 00:14:03,559 --> 00:14:06,280 Speaker 1: She was told it was because the World Health Organization 246 00:14:06,440 --> 00:14:10,080 Speaker 1: and India weren't really looking for women to volunteer. Thank you. 247 00:14:10,520 --> 00:14:13,959 Speaker 1: So Guynan asked if India's Prime Minister at the time, 248 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:18,719 Speaker 1: who was a woman, knew about this. And after that, 249 00:14:18,800 --> 00:14:20,840 Speaker 1: after Guidan was like, asked about that, and then she 250 00:14:20,920 --> 00:14:26,240 Speaker 1: was like, let me speak to your manager. She was 251 00:14:26,320 --> 00:14:31,720 Speaker 1: given a spot on the Operations Smallpox zero team and 252 00:14:31,760 --> 00:14:35,120 Speaker 1: apparently an elephant became a part of their effort for 253 00:14:35,320 --> 00:14:38,280 Speaker 1: transport over flooded rivers. I really wanted to go way 254 00:14:38,280 --> 00:14:40,480 Speaker 1: in depth into this, and I was like, Annie, we 255 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:43,080 Speaker 1: have to make this one episode. At the time she 256 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:47,320 Speaker 1: started researching sexually transmitted diseases. She went back to the 257 00:14:47,320 --> 00:14:50,040 Speaker 1: CDC two years later in nineteen seventy eight, to work 258 00:14:50,120 --> 00:14:54,040 Speaker 1: in the Veneural Disease Control Division as a clinical investigator. 259 00:14:55,160 --> 00:14:57,280 Speaker 1: Do her work in this field, she became known as 260 00:14:57,320 --> 00:15:02,400 Speaker 1: a national expert on genital herpes, which happens somewhat accidentally. 261 00:15:03,040 --> 00:15:07,000 Speaker 1: The media sometimes called her doctor Condom or doctor Herpes. 262 00:15:07,800 --> 00:15:11,360 Speaker 1: She basically she appeared in an interview where the chiron 263 00:15:11,560 --> 00:15:16,720 Speaker 1: below her was like std expert and she did not 264 00:15:16,840 --> 00:15:18,720 Speaker 1: know what was going to say that, and then every 265 00:15:18,720 --> 00:15:21,360 Speaker 1: other news outlet contacted her. It was like, we need 266 00:15:21,360 --> 00:15:24,040 Speaker 1: you to come talk about this. She was worried about 267 00:15:24,040 --> 00:15:28,440 Speaker 1: the reaction of her religious conservative mother when appearing on 268 00:15:28,520 --> 00:15:32,880 Speaker 1: TV to discuss sexually transmitted diseases. Apparently her mother never 269 00:15:32,920 --> 00:15:37,080 Speaker 1: even said sex, but after watching her on sixty minutes, 270 00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:41,640 Speaker 1: her mother allegedly said, congratulations, dear, your hair looked very nice. 271 00:15:42,400 --> 00:15:43,200 Speaker 1: Such a mother. 272 00:15:45,560 --> 00:15:46,320 Speaker 2: Mother thing to do. 273 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:49,240 Speaker 1: Yes, I don't want to touch on these other subjects. 274 00:15:49,280 --> 00:15:50,240 Speaker 1: But your hair looks good. 275 00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:51,680 Speaker 2: It's wonderful. 276 00:15:52,040 --> 00:15:54,720 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, And guy didn't even turned down that appearance 277 00:15:54,720 --> 00:15:58,240 Speaker 1: on sixty Minutes because she was kind of frustrated with 278 00:15:58,320 --> 00:16:01,880 Speaker 1: the media's coverage of STDs sdis and also she was 279 00:16:01,920 --> 00:16:04,680 Speaker 1: worried about her mother, but the CDC pressured her into 280 00:16:04,720 --> 00:16:07,960 Speaker 1: doing it, and she once said after reporter asked her 281 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:10,480 Speaker 1: if you could get AIDS from a toilet seat quote, 282 00:16:10,640 --> 00:16:12,600 Speaker 1: the only way that I know you can get AIDS 283 00:16:12,760 --> 00:16:18,840 Speaker 1: is if you sit on it before someone else gets up. Yeah. 284 00:16:18,880 --> 00:16:21,640 Speaker 1: She was full of those kind of comments. Doctor Gynan 285 00:16:21,680 --> 00:16:24,560 Speaker 1: attempted to draw attention to the AIDS epidemic in the 286 00:16:24,640 --> 00:16:27,280 Speaker 1: nineteen eighties, but found that the media was reluctant to 287 00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:29,800 Speaker 1: cover it since early reports seemed to suggest it mainly 288 00:16:29,840 --> 00:16:33,920 Speaker 1: impacted the homosexual community. She, along with the CDC, worked 289 00:16:33,960 --> 00:16:37,880 Speaker 1: to raise support awareness around AIDS. Doctor Geyan set up 290 00:16:37,880 --> 00:16:41,560 Speaker 1: the CDC's AIDS Task Force. Because of her work, she 291 00:16:41,600 --> 00:16:44,360 Speaker 1: was promoted in nineteen eighty four to the CDC's Associate 292 00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:47,880 Speaker 1: Director for the Division of Sexually Transmitted Diseases, and she 293 00:16:47,920 --> 00:16:52,840 Speaker 1: became the CDC's first female Chief Scientific Advisor From nineteen 294 00:16:52,880 --> 00:16:55,560 Speaker 1: ninety to nineteen ninety five, she acted as Chief of 295 00:16:55,600 --> 00:16:59,720 Speaker 1: Evaluation for the country's HIV prevention program. She's a founding 296 00:16:59,800 --> 00:17:03,120 Speaker 1: d at the University of Nevada, Las Vegas School of 297 00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:08,360 Speaker 1: Public Health and has done extensive research into childhood leukemia. 298 00:17:08,840 --> 00:17:11,200 Speaker 1: Her work with AIDS was the topic of the book 299 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:15,720 Speaker 1: and later HBO documentary and the band played on. Apparently, 300 00:17:16,400 --> 00:17:19,160 Speaker 1: she is only in one scene in the movie, where 301 00:17:19,200 --> 00:17:22,720 Speaker 1: she is baking a cake. Guynan said of this, they 302 00:17:22,760 --> 00:17:26,960 Speaker 1: didn't know how to portray a woman scientist. In twenty sixteen, 303 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:30,080 Speaker 1: she published the book Adventures of a Female Medical Detective 304 00:17:30,200 --> 00:17:34,520 Speaker 1: in Pursuit of Smallpox and AIDS. Wow, that's a great title. 305 00:17:35,280 --> 00:17:37,199 Speaker 1: I know. I want to read it. 306 00:17:37,240 --> 00:17:37,560 Speaker 2: I want you. 307 00:17:37,600 --> 00:17:38,040 Speaker 1: I'm ready. 308 00:17:38,359 --> 00:17:41,560 Speaker 2: Let's get it. Maybe a book club, yes, think about 309 00:17:41,560 --> 00:17:44,560 Speaker 2: how that would translate to a book club. But and 310 00:17:44,920 --> 00:17:47,760 Speaker 2: next we're going to talk about Julie Linn Wong. Doctor 311 00:17:47,840 --> 00:17:50,560 Speaker 2: Wong not only is a physician and public health specialist, 312 00:17:50,680 --> 00:17:54,160 Speaker 2: but she is an expert in robotics and space medicine. 313 00:17:54,240 --> 00:17:57,000 Speaker 2: The Harvard and educated doctor has made history by combining 314 00:17:57,040 --> 00:18:01,760 Speaker 2: her knowledge of robotics technology with my medicine. In twenty eleven, 315 00:18:01,800 --> 00:18:04,919 Speaker 2: doctor Wong founded the three D four MD with the 316 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:08,359 Speaker 2: idea of using three D printers, solo powered and easily 317 00:18:08,359 --> 00:18:12,000 Speaker 2: portable to print healthcare supplies in remote communities, and by 318 00:18:12,040 --> 00:18:15,000 Speaker 2: creating affordable three D templates, it would help create low 319 00:18:15,040 --> 00:18:18,320 Speaker 2: cost medical supplies on demand. And it's so small it 320 00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:21,160 Speaker 2: can fit into a carry on bag for easy travel 321 00:18:21,359 --> 00:18:23,920 Speaker 2: from global areas that are hard to get to to 322 00:18:24,160 --> 00:18:28,639 Speaker 2: even space. Dumb, dumb, dumb, that's so cool, right, And 323 00:18:28,720 --> 00:18:31,560 Speaker 2: speaking of space, doctor Wang was selected to participate in 324 00:18:31,560 --> 00:18:35,200 Speaker 2: a thirty days simulated mission at NASA's Johnson Space Center 325 00:18:35,240 --> 00:18:37,600 Speaker 2: in honor of the thirtieth anniversary of the Space Shuttle 326 00:18:37,680 --> 00:18:41,560 Speaker 2: Challenger tragedy. Wong served as the mission's flight engineer, and 327 00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:44,760 Speaker 2: then in twenty seventeen, astronauts actually used a three D 328 00:18:44,880 --> 00:18:48,919 Speaker 2: printer for medical supplies using her blueprints from three D 329 00:18:49,040 --> 00:18:52,040 Speaker 2: four MD, so they were able to actually create like 330 00:18:52,119 --> 00:18:54,879 Speaker 2: finger splinters and all of that while in space, which 331 00:18:55,680 --> 00:18:59,000 Speaker 2: what I know. And by the way, my partner, who 332 00:18:59,320 --> 00:19:02,760 Speaker 2: loves three D printers and has three, was very excited 333 00:19:02,800 --> 00:19:08,120 Speaker 2: when I started talking about this, and she didn't stop there. 334 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:10,399 Speaker 2: She founded the Medical Makers, which is a network to 335 00:19:10,400 --> 00:19:13,320 Speaker 2: bring others to build and use their skills and creativity 336 00:19:13,359 --> 00:19:16,120 Speaker 2: to continue to fight for humanitarian issues and build sustainable 337 00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:18,639 Speaker 2: solutions through technology all over the world. 338 00:19:19,160 --> 00:19:21,160 Speaker 1: I love this. I feel like that's another great example 339 00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:25,080 Speaker 1: of when you specialize in a thing, like, don't limit 340 00:19:25,119 --> 00:19:28,720 Speaker 1: yourself to that one field, right, it can work in 341 00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:29,720 Speaker 1: different spaces. 342 00:19:29,880 --> 00:19:32,960 Speaker 2: And also she seems to be the overachiever that I'm 343 00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:35,760 Speaker 2: scared of that. I'm like, oh my god, You're the 344 00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:37,879 Speaker 2: one everybody talks about that can do everything. 345 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:45,240 Speaker 1: Don't be scared. Don't be scared. We do have a 346 00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:47,359 Speaker 1: few more women we want a spotlight, but first we 347 00:19:47,400 --> 00:19:49,360 Speaker 1: have one more quick break for word from a sponsor, 348 00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:04,560 Speaker 1: a fact thank you sponsored. 349 00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:07,600 Speaker 2: And earlier in the episode, we talked about the amazing 350 00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:11,280 Speaker 2: works doctor Corbett did that helped develop Maderna, but we 351 00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:14,440 Speaker 2: also wanted to look at the biologists that laid down 352 00:20:14,560 --> 00:20:17,600 Speaker 2: the groundwork to help develop that, as well as the 353 00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:21,440 Speaker 2: Pfizer Biointech vaccine, which is doctor Katie Courico and doctor 354 00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:24,720 Speaker 2: Perico originally came from Hungary, moved to the US in 355 00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:27,920 Speaker 2: her early twenties, and though she's now being recognized for 356 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:31,080 Speaker 2: our titleist work, she was barely making it through in 357 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:34,679 Speaker 2: the world of academia until recently, and like me in 358 00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:37,000 Speaker 2: the field, she had difficulty in getting both funding or 359 00:20:37,040 --> 00:20:40,840 Speaker 2: even being properly compensated for her work. As a colleague 360 00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:44,000 Speaker 2: stated quote, when your idea is against the conventional wisdom, 361 00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:46,520 Speaker 2: that makes sense to the star chamber, but it's very 362 00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:49,960 Speaker 2: hard to break out. But today she's being recognized for 363 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:54,440 Speaker 2: her breakout studies in mRNA, which is the quote genetic 364 00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:57,800 Speaker 2: script that carries the DNA instructions to each sales protein 365 00:20:58,119 --> 00:21:01,400 Speaker 2: making machinery. Just to give an next one. And thanks 366 00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:04,399 Speaker 2: to her continued work with mRNA, she has helped create 367 00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:08,040 Speaker 2: a path to these different vaccines. And doctor Vacci stated, quote, 368 00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:12,479 Speaker 2: it has already transformed COVID nineteen, but also other vaccines HIV, 369 00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:16,080 Speaker 2: and people in the field are excited influenza, malaria, and 370 00:21:16,119 --> 00:21:18,400 Speaker 2: he's talking about how it's going to help create vaccines 371 00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:21,840 Speaker 2: for these different things. And doctor Carico never held back. 372 00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:24,679 Speaker 2: She was known for her intensity and dedication in working 373 00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:27,840 Speaker 2: on her research. Her husband talked about how she was 374 00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:30,800 Speaker 2: constantly working, whether it was night and day or even 375 00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:33,280 Speaker 2: the weekend, and he actually broke down her pay as 376 00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:36,119 Speaker 2: being less than a dollar an hour. For all the 377 00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:38,879 Speaker 2: time she has been on it, but apparently she just 378 00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:41,000 Speaker 2: didn't care about the money. It was about her work. 379 00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:43,800 Speaker 2: She earned her PhD at the University of Sega, then 380 00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:46,719 Speaker 2: moved to Philadelphia in nineteen eighty five to continue her 381 00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:50,720 Speaker 2: research at Temple University, and she did continue throughout her career, 382 00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:54,400 Speaker 2: though she would be rejected and continually overlooked. She worked 383 00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:57,240 Speaker 2: with different colleagues and different avenues until finally she and 384 00:21:57,280 --> 00:21:59,840 Speaker 2: doctor Weisman were able to show progress in their work 385 00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:02,800 Speaker 2: were able to get grants from both Maderna and Biointech, 386 00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:07,000 Speaker 2: and on November eighth, the testing showed that the mRNA 387 00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:11,000 Speaker 2: that she's been studying actually offered powerful immunity to COVID nineteen, 388 00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:13,320 Speaker 2: and she and doctor Weisman were able to get their 389 00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:18,199 Speaker 2: vaccine publicly during a press conference on December eighteenth of 390 00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:21,640 Speaker 2: twenty twenty, and she was applauded as well as he 391 00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:24,320 Speaker 2: was by their peers when they made the announcement, Hey, 392 00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:26,960 Speaker 2: the people who helped create this vaccine is here. So 393 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:29,600 Speaker 2: they were given a round of applause by their coworkers, 394 00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:33,080 Speaker 2: and she apparently celebrated with just the box of goobers, 395 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:35,800 Speaker 2: which she ate all by herself. Not really sure why 396 00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:38,480 Speaker 2: that was the way they put it. I guess maybe 397 00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:41,480 Speaker 2: she wasn't able to And she told her husband that 398 00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:45,119 Speaker 2: it worked, and her response was I thought so. I 399 00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:47,119 Speaker 2: thought that was really fun because it just seemed like 400 00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:49,720 Speaker 2: she had been working so hard, to the point that 401 00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:53,359 Speaker 2: she had changed hands essentially of who was working with 402 00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:56,400 Speaker 2: her and her advisors, and she never stopped. Even people 403 00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:59,640 Speaker 2: were like, this is not working. We don't care, she 404 00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:02,399 Speaker 2: believed yeah, and because of heart, we were able to 405 00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:03,760 Speaker 2: get a vaccine so quickly. 406 00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:08,920 Speaker 1: Yeah. And I think because there's been some publicity obviously 407 00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:10,879 Speaker 1: about people who have been working on the vaccine, and 408 00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:14,119 Speaker 1: so stories about her have come out recently, and I 409 00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:17,879 Speaker 1: feel like she really wants an HIV vaccine, Like that's 410 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:19,520 Speaker 1: what is. 411 00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:22,760 Speaker 2: Right driving her. Apparently, during one of her conversations with 412 00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:25,520 Speaker 2: one of her staff members that she was working with, 413 00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:29,159 Speaker 2: said can you get a vaccine for HIV? She's like, yeah, 414 00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:31,080 Speaker 2: I can do that, and she has and I think 415 00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:33,160 Speaker 2: she continued to work for that. So that's amazing. 416 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:39,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, very determined. So now let's end with doctor Francoise 417 00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:43,080 Speaker 1: Barre Sinoussi, who won the Nobel Prize in Physiology or 418 00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:46,440 Speaker 1: Medicine in twenty eighteen quote for their discovery of human 419 00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:50,280 Speaker 1: immuno deficiency virus. Born in Paris, France, in nineteen forty 420 00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:53,840 Speaker 1: seven at doctor Barret Sinusi loved nature from a young 421 00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:56,760 Speaker 1: age and in her words, her path was determined largely 422 00:23:56,800 --> 00:24:00,280 Speaker 1: by what her and her family could afford. She's started 423 00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:04,879 Speaker 1: volunteering at Paris's Institute Pasteur, and by nineteen seventy five 424 00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:09,760 Speaker 1: she had earned her PhD. In nineteen eighty three, she 425 00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:14,440 Speaker 1: along with Luke Montaigner, discovered the retrovirus that would later 426 00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:19,800 Speaker 1: be called human immuno deficiency virus or HIV, which has 427 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:22,640 Speaker 1: proven to be the cause for AIDS. That year, she 428 00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:25,240 Speaker 1: was the first author on the paper that reported on 429 00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:30,600 Speaker 1: this discovery. She'd been researching retroviruses since the nineteen seventies. 430 00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:34,240 Speaker 1: She headed up her own lab at the Institute Pasteur 431 00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:36,880 Speaker 1: in nineteen eighty eight, where she launched several programs looking 432 00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:42,280 Speaker 1: into HIVAIDS, including vaccine research. She is in charge of 433 00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:46,639 Speaker 1: the Regulation of Retroviral Infection unit at the Institute Pastor 434 00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:50,840 Speaker 1: in Paris, where she's also emeritus professor. She was elected 435 00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:53,040 Speaker 1: to the French Academy of Science in two thousand and nine, 436 00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:55,800 Speaker 1: and from twenty twelve to twenty fourteen she became President 437 00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:59,480 Speaker 1: of the International Aid Society. She's been prolific when it 438 00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:02,200 Speaker 1: comes to paper as well, authoring or co authoring over 439 00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:05,560 Speaker 1: two hundred and seventy original publications and lots lots of 440 00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:08,879 Speaker 1: lots more. Her discovery and part led to the development 441 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:12,520 Speaker 1: of life saving drugs that saved millions of lives. However, 442 00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:15,159 Speaker 1: more than thirty eight million around the world live with 443 00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:17,439 Speaker 1: HIV and not all of them can get treatment. So 444 00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:21,320 Speaker 1: doctor Barra Senu C's work continues as well, which I 445 00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:22,920 Speaker 1: think I feel like we see in all of these 446 00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:29,040 Speaker 1: women this dedication and determination and just to say, I 447 00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:31,400 Speaker 1: know that we didn't always put the doctor before their name, 448 00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:36,240 Speaker 1: but it's there. The respect is there. Respect. Honestly, this 449 00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:38,680 Speaker 1: is amazing. We're talking about. 450 00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:40,840 Speaker 2: The amount of achievement that they've done, the amount of 451 00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:45,040 Speaker 2: work and blood, sweat and tears. I can't imagine that 452 00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:47,240 Speaker 2: they've had to do and even to fight to be 453 00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:50,000 Speaker 2: there and to be hard. Yeah, and the fact that 454 00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:53,320 Speaker 2: they had to work to be taken seriously and continue 455 00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:57,159 Speaker 2: to have to work to be seen even is a 456 00:25:57,200 --> 00:25:59,679 Speaker 2: whole other conversation yeah. 457 00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:04,879 Speaker 1: Level of impact they've had on our everyday lives, often 458 00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:09,520 Speaker 1: unnoticed or unspoken about, is really it's amazing the work 459 00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:12,800 Speaker 1: that they've done. We could definitely go further in depth. 460 00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:15,439 Speaker 1: Let us know about something you want, and we know 461 00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:19,000 Speaker 1: there's so many more stories we could talk about, so 462 00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:23,600 Speaker 1: if you have any suggestions, as always, please send them 463 00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:28,000 Speaker 1: our away Hola. 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