WEBVTT - Yabba Dabba Voodoo (with Kevin Iso) 0:00:01.960 --> 0:00:04.800 Someone goes like, yo, I think this place is haunted. 0:00:05.200 --> 0:00:07.680 And I talked to some people who said, like, they've 0:00:07.720 --> 0:00:12.400 also experienced this. My instinct isn'tgost show dumbass stuff. This 0:00:12.480 --> 0:00:15.160 isn't haunted. My instinct is to go, well, I'm gonna 0:00:15.160 --> 0:00:17.000 have to turn the TV up because I ain't trying 0:00:17.000 --> 0:00:19.919 to see her here. Not that I ain't. I don't 0:00:19.960 --> 0:00:23.120 want to be a part of that. That's that's such 0:00:23.160 --> 0:00:27.320 a black thought. A TV get rid of ghost. Turn 0:00:27.400 --> 0:00:30.960 the TV up and them ghost goa be gone by. 0:00:31.040 --> 0:00:33.639 I see a ghost. We'll turn the TV up, all right, 0:00:33.680 --> 0:00:36.479 But I know it's your TV because they wouldn't hang 0:00:36.479 --> 0:00:56.800 around if you turned it up. Chips, racists, money stuff, 0:00:58.080 --> 0:01:03.360 I can't tell me. Yep, yep, there it is. There 0:01:03.360 --> 0:01:07.520 it is. Ladies and gentlemen, Welcome to another phenomenal episode 0:01:07.520 --> 0:01:11.000 of My Mama Told Me, the podcast where we died 0:01:11.080 --> 0:01:14.800 deep deep into the pockets of black conspiracy theories and 0:01:14.840 --> 0:01:19.640 we finally worked to prove that shemar More, even shemar 0:01:19.840 --> 0:01:23.800 More's poops are light skinned. That's right, they come out 0:01:23.959 --> 0:01:27.520 the color of Michael Eally. That man don't do nothing 0:01:27.560 --> 0:01:30.480 that ain't light skinned, and his poops are no different. 0:01:30.800 --> 0:01:33.520 I am your host length than Kerman as always, and 0:01:33.640 --> 0:01:35.960 you know I'm coming in hot. I always say am 0:01:36.160 --> 0:01:38.240 sometimes I say I'm coming in hot. But and then 0:01:38.280 --> 0:01:39.920 I come in with the same energy I come with 0:01:40.080 --> 0:01:42.920 in every week, and so I think I'm just a 0:01:42.920 --> 0:01:45.280 hot motherfucker. That's what I do. I come in hot. 0:01:45.319 --> 0:01:48.200 And my guest today, I would argue he's never come 0:01:48.200 --> 0:01:50.920 in hot, never once, says he walked into a room 0:01:50.960 --> 0:01:54.280 and it felt like God, damn, this nigga's energy is exploding. 0:01:54.760 --> 0:01:58.680 It's booming through the atmosphere of the space we've entered. 0:01:58.920 --> 0:02:01.880 But man, is he hilarious. I love him. He's a 0:02:01.920 --> 0:02:05.440 dear friend. You know him from Comedy Central, but more importantly, 0:02:05.560 --> 0:02:08.519 you know him from his brand new show on Showtime 0:02:08.960 --> 0:02:13.200 every Sunday called Flatbush Misdemeanors. I love it. It's a 0:02:13.280 --> 0:02:16.160 hilarious show. He is one of the creators, one of 0:02:16.200 --> 0:02:19.120 the stars. So funny. Give it up for my guest, 0:02:19.560 --> 0:02:25.520 Mr Kevin, I thank you, thank you for reading that 0:02:25.680 --> 0:02:28.400 like you wouldn't pay to say it. Yeah, you know 0:02:28.760 --> 0:02:32.280 you gotta put some passion into it. You've You've offered 0:02:32.320 --> 0:02:35.440 me hundreds to thousands of dollars to say that nicely, 0:02:35.520 --> 0:02:37.480 but I said, no, I'll do it on my own. 0:02:37.840 --> 0:02:40.680 I don't know how you know what color Shamar Morris 0:02:40.680 --> 0:02:46.360 poops are either. That was a camera in his house. Look, 0:02:46.880 --> 0:02:49.600 I do the research. You gotta do the you gotta 0:02:49.639 --> 0:02:51.760 do the hard work. Some of us are willing to 0:02:51.800 --> 0:02:53.640 really dig in. I mean, that's why I don't have 0:02:53.639 --> 0:02:59.840 a podcast. You're too lazy to study Shamar Morris poops. 0:03:00.200 --> 0:03:04.160 And that's why you don't have a podcast. I'm excited 0:03:04.280 --> 0:03:06.560 that you're here because you came to me with a 0:03:06.600 --> 0:03:09.760 conspiracy theory that I had never heard of before in 0:03:09.800 --> 0:03:13.320 my life. Even the entire sort of premise around it 0:03:13.400 --> 0:03:16.720 was super foreign to me. And I know you specifically 0:03:17.400 --> 0:03:21.120 sent a a d not a detail, but a part 0:03:21.240 --> 0:03:24.240 of this larger conspiracy. So I'm gonna frame this around 0:03:24.280 --> 0:03:30.839 the larger thing, which is my mama told me Nigerian 0:03:31.080 --> 0:03:39.600 jazz last juju is real. Yeah, okay, so yeah, I 0:03:40.000 --> 0:03:41.960 just jumped into the story, right, Yeah, tell me, but 0:03:42.080 --> 0:03:44.440 just tell me what you know. Well, I mean, this 0:03:44.520 --> 0:03:46.200 is this is what I this is what I know 0:03:46.560 --> 0:03:48.960 to be true. I mean, it's always kind of like 0:03:49.000 --> 0:03:51.040 an underlying thing and I don't even think it's just 0:03:51.120 --> 0:03:53.960 like like a Nigerian thing, but it's also you know, 0:03:54.400 --> 0:03:57.640 West Indian people also kind of deal with it, and 0:03:58.000 --> 0:04:02.360 New Orleans people definitely voodo, you know, so jazz. And 0:04:02.400 --> 0:04:04.360 when I went to Nigeria for the first time in 0:04:05.840 --> 0:04:07.800 I was going to the marketplace, this place called Yea 0:04:07.840 --> 0:04:11.560 Bob Market, and my cousin was telling me like, Yo, 0:04:11.640 --> 0:04:14.480 if you go out there like these these dudes that 0:04:14.600 --> 0:04:18.400 have on gold rings and if they touch you, whatever 0:04:18.480 --> 0:04:21.520 is in your pocket go in their pocket. And at 0:04:21.560 --> 0:04:25.800 first I was like, well what. Two thoughts went through 0:04:25.839 --> 0:04:27.880 my head. I was like, niggas ain't gonna touch me, 0:04:27.960 --> 0:04:29.640 like what the fun? And then the second thought was 0:04:29.680 --> 0:04:34.120 like that is just gonna get some socks, Like it's 0:04:34.160 --> 0:04:37.240 not nothing that you not to get my backup underwear 0:04:37.320 --> 0:04:41.520 because that's all I got in my body. Yeah, but 0:04:42.080 --> 0:04:45.200 it was, um, it was like to go out there. 0:04:45.279 --> 0:04:47.800 At first, I was kind of like yeah, yeah, whatever whatever. 0:04:48.279 --> 0:04:49.920 But then once I got kind of got out there 0:04:49.920 --> 0:04:51.720 and I've seen it, I was like, Yo, this ship 0:04:51.920 --> 0:04:54.800 definitely it's real. And then my auntie told me like 0:04:54.839 --> 0:04:57.880 it actually happened to my cousin like in a different 0:04:57.880 --> 0:05:01.640 way because there's so many different forms of it. Yeah, 0:05:01.720 --> 0:05:03.680 and it happens to him like in a different way 0:05:03.680 --> 0:05:06.360 where he like kind of got brainwashed and then giving 0:05:06.400 --> 0:05:09.640 away all my auntie money away that this dude. And 0:05:09.640 --> 0:05:11.479 then like he even came back to the house and 0:05:11.560 --> 0:05:13.520 was like asking my auntie, like, yo, I need more 0:05:13.520 --> 0:05:15.120 money to give to him. He said, if I give 0:05:15.200 --> 0:05:16.880 him more money, he's gonna get us on the island 0:05:16.920 --> 0:05:21.520 or whatever. She was like whoa, and he got he 0:05:21.560 --> 0:05:24.040 lost his phone. He tried to go back and meet 0:05:24.120 --> 0:05:29.839 up with the dude again. But mind you, he like fourteen, Um, 0:05:31.279 --> 0:05:34.600 I mean dumb, He's dumb. But at the same time too, 0:05:34.600 --> 0:05:36.920 it was kind of like they grow up quick out there. 0:05:37.080 --> 0:05:39.200 Like my ten year old my ten year old cousin 0:05:39.279 --> 0:05:41.360 like when I was when I was first out there, 0:05:41.520 --> 0:05:44.120 she uh, we went to we went to the marketplace, right. 0:05:44.160 --> 0:05:46.240 She was trying to bust some pound of yam. And 0:05:46.279 --> 0:05:48.640 then the lady was like it's like say like six 0:05:49.040 --> 0:05:53.640 and my cousin like, nah, six, hund I'll give you four, 0:05:54.160 --> 0:05:58.280 I said. She ten years old, bro, I'm like four okay, 0:05:58.320 --> 0:06:00.840 four fifty And then she's like a fine. And then 0:06:01.160 --> 0:06:05.040 I'm looking at her, I'm like, yeah, like it's called 0:06:05.040 --> 0:06:09.520 doing business. I'm like, yeah, Yo, that's crazy. She's demonstrating 0:06:09.560 --> 0:06:13.640 a skill that that the average ten year old couldn't 0:06:13.640 --> 0:06:16.880 even begin to try to do in America. Don't even 0:06:16.960 --> 0:06:19.880 have how you bargaining with a woman that's like five 0:06:19.920 --> 0:06:22.400 times your age? Right? I want that girl. I want 0:06:22.440 --> 0:06:25.120 your cousin helping me buy a Nissan Maxima, you know 0:06:25.160 --> 0:06:27.279 what I mean. Like, let's let's get her in a 0:06:27.320 --> 0:06:30.320 dealership and really like get some negotiations that are better 0:06:30.360 --> 0:06:34.040 than yams. I need her doing real work, bro, exactly. 0:06:34.440 --> 0:06:36.120 I'm looking at her like you would be a dangerous 0:06:36.120 --> 0:06:44.000 politician around all right. Wait, so let's let's rewind this 0:06:44.120 --> 0:06:46.680 back a little bit because I think you're cruising through 0:06:46.720 --> 0:06:49.880 some stuff that that's gonna need some clarification. Some of 0:06:49.920 --> 0:06:53.159 my listeners are whiteyes, so some of this is gonna 0:06:53.160 --> 0:06:57.799 require some songs. Some listen, Papa's bills are being paid 0:06:57.800 --> 0:07:00.000 by the white devil, and and that's something I'll rush 0:07:00.000 --> 0:07:02.680 so with this evening. But more importantly, as we are 0:07:02.800 --> 0:07:07.880 right now, I'm really interested number one in this idea 0:07:08.000 --> 0:07:11.400 of these people with the gold rings and like them 0:07:11.640 --> 0:07:14.920 them sort of being able to transfer your belongings from 0:07:14.960 --> 0:07:19.160 your pockets into theirs. They're not looking at this when 0:07:19.160 --> 0:07:22.520 they say that this sort of magic is happening. This 0:07:22.640 --> 0:07:25.840 isn't robbery to them. They're not saying this is like, oh, 0:07:25.920 --> 0:07:29.480 you just got pickpocketed by these gold ring dudes. But 0:07:29.560 --> 0:07:32.320 you mean you mean the people in the community aren't 0:07:32.320 --> 0:07:36.760 like they just picked your pocket. Theyeah, exactly. I you 0:07:36.800 --> 0:07:39.320 know what, I don't think that they think it's that 0:07:39.480 --> 0:07:42.200 at all, just because it's like it's such a it's 0:07:42.240 --> 0:07:45.120 such a level, like like the history behind all of that, 0:07:45.240 --> 0:07:48.000 all the all the they call it jazz and that 0:07:48.040 --> 0:07:49.360 was the first time I heard it. But you know, 0:07:49.600 --> 0:07:52.160 being where we're from, I'm like voodoo, but the history 0:07:52.200 --> 0:07:57.000 behind voodoo is so like dark magic, like Christian like 0:07:57.080 --> 0:08:01.200 religious people won't say voodoo or anything. They'll say that's 0:08:01.240 --> 0:08:03.840 the devil or that's you know, having a hell or 0:08:03.840 --> 0:08:07.760 anything like that, but it's still the same thing. Ultimately, 0:08:07.800 --> 0:08:10.080 It's just like there's a whole another underwear. It's like 0:08:10.080 --> 0:08:14.200 the deep web, you know what I mean, spirituality. It's like, oh, 0:08:14.240 --> 0:08:17.200 you got with you They're like yeah, It's like if 0:08:17.240 --> 0:08:19.920 you really want to buy some baby fingers. We know 0:08:19.960 --> 0:08:24.440 where you can do it, but exactly exactly, so I 0:08:24.840 --> 0:08:26.480 think they think it's real and I'm not gonna lie, 0:08:26.520 --> 0:08:29.760 like I really do believe it. Like at first, I 0:08:29.800 --> 0:08:32.079 ain't gonna lie. I believe it, bro Like at first 0:08:32.120 --> 0:08:36.679 I was like, it's kind of nah, but it's kind 0:08:36.679 --> 0:08:39.320 of like, how could it not be real? Well, say more, 0:08:39.480 --> 0:08:42.679 because I can tell you how it could not be real. Uh. 0:08:44.080 --> 0:08:46.040 I know a lot of people gold rings that don't 0:08:46.160 --> 0:08:49.800 demonstrate any ability. Well, okay, alright, so the gold the 0:08:49.840 --> 0:08:54.240 gold ring thing, maybe that's not real, but at the 0:08:54.280 --> 0:09:02.640 same time, maybe it is. I love that as an 0:09:02.760 --> 0:09:06.040 argument of being like all right, all right, okay, okay, okay, 0:09:06.160 --> 0:09:08.760 let's be serious. Maybe it's not real, but have you 0:09:08.800 --> 0:09:14.760 considered maybe it is? But really though, bro, like, it's 0:09:14.760 --> 0:09:18.400 something that like I can't tell you what life is 0:09:18.440 --> 0:09:21.320 like in another country without really kind of being there, 0:09:21.320 --> 0:09:23.920 Like nobody can tell me, like what what New York 0:09:24.000 --> 0:09:25.760 is like if they never really been in New York, 0:09:25.880 --> 0:09:28.600 So like somebody to tell me like over there, like yo, 0:09:28.640 --> 0:09:31.040 they do this ship out here like really, like you 0:09:31.160 --> 0:09:33.280 might come in thinking like no, no, they don't, and 0:09:33.320 --> 0:09:36.120 then now you don't got you know what I'm saying. Now, 0:09:36.160 --> 0:09:38.400 you now you're a believer, and the only way you're 0:09:38.400 --> 0:09:41.760 gonna believe is if somebody rob your ass. But I'm 0:09:41.760 --> 0:09:43.960 not gonna wait till somebody rob me. I'm gonna believe 0:09:44.040 --> 0:09:48.800 it before, right. So So I like that because because 0:09:48.960 --> 0:09:52.440 by that suggestion, it's not even so much that that 0:09:52.559 --> 0:09:55.440 you're like sitting and you're believing as much in the 0:09:55.480 --> 0:09:58.840 magic of it all, but you're believing in their belief 0:09:59.280 --> 0:10:03.280 in at least correlation. So like, yo, I don't know 0:10:03.360 --> 0:10:06.080 if they can Harry Potter some ship from his pocket 0:10:06.160 --> 0:10:09.000 to my pocket, but I do know that they believe that. 0:10:09.080 --> 0:10:11.200 Therefore I'm gonna stay away from the people with the 0:10:11.240 --> 0:10:16.360 gold rings. Absolutely absolutely, And because then you got to 0:10:16.400 --> 0:10:19.040 also think about like, all right, is that real gold 0:10:19.120 --> 0:10:24.840 on that right? But there's just a cool magnet that 0:10:24.960 --> 0:10:28.800 he's like pulling my ship into his. Yeah, I get that. 0:10:30.400 --> 0:10:33.199 I do think. I do think to that point that 0:10:33.400 --> 0:10:36.920 is the issue with the way that we often deny 0:10:37.120 --> 0:10:41.120 people's faith and and experiences and ship, right, is that like, 0:10:41.440 --> 0:10:43.160 at the end of the day, whether I believe in 0:10:43.200 --> 0:10:46.160 what you believe in or not, there's a reason you 0:10:46.240 --> 0:10:49.760 have faith in this thing, and it isn't complete nonsense. 0:10:49.840 --> 0:10:52.360 It may sound silly and it may be sort of 0:10:52.400 --> 0:10:56.640 like hyperbolic and its reasoning, but it's not so illogical 0:10:57.080 --> 0:11:01.079 that you're just like a fucking idiot. There's probably some 0:11:01.240 --> 0:11:03.480 route to it. And with that, maybe I would do 0:11:03.559 --> 0:11:05.640 good to listen to at least part of that and 0:11:05.679 --> 0:11:08.640 then ignore the goofy parts. You know what it's like. 0:11:09.160 --> 0:11:11.520 It's like when you see a bunch of people running 0:11:11.520 --> 0:11:15.040 away from something, yes, and it's like, are you gonna 0:11:15.040 --> 0:11:16.840 be that idiot that just keeps like, well, I don't 0:11:16.840 --> 0:11:19.479 know what they're running from, so I'm gonna find out myself, 0:11:19.520 --> 0:11:23.160 Like there could be bigger threats in the distance. Maybe 0:11:23.200 --> 0:11:26.680 we should just stay here and see what happens. Idiot 0:11:26.720 --> 0:11:32.600 you've been and find out later. I gotta see for myself. 0:11:32.679 --> 0:11:35.120 I don't I don't ever have to see. I don't 0:11:35.160 --> 0:11:37.600 know what's over there, but people running. I'm running too. 0:11:37.840 --> 0:11:40.120 I remember as a kid, and we would go to 0:11:40.160 --> 0:11:42.720 the Taste of Chicago every year just to you know, 0:11:42.880 --> 0:11:45.960 go like do herrat ship with our friends whatever. And 0:11:46.080 --> 0:11:50.120 every year, inevitably is Chicago. People start shooting at the Taste, 0:11:50.520 --> 0:11:53.040 and every year, that would happen where like a crowd 0:11:53.080 --> 0:11:57.120 would run and there was always inevitably somebody with us 0:11:57.160 --> 0:11:59.600 that we would have to be like, bro, let's go. 0:12:00.040 --> 0:12:03.440 We're not We're not sticking around to figure this one out. 0:12:03.640 --> 0:12:06.840 Run motherfucker. Meet you at the McDonald's and then we'll 0:12:06.880 --> 0:12:09.440 regroup and and figure it out. You know what I mean, 0:12:10.840 --> 0:12:13.760 that's your fault for hanging around white people. Well, I 0:12:13.800 --> 0:12:15.840 grew up in the suburbs. I had what I had 0:12:15.880 --> 0:12:21.280 as as a core group of friends. They were mostly black, 0:12:21.320 --> 0:12:23.120 but we had to sprinkle some whites in the air. 0:12:23.200 --> 0:12:25.720 They were kind. Let me ask you, do you do 0:12:25.760 --> 0:12:29.600 you believe in any sort of voodoo rituals? I'll say this, 0:12:30.160 --> 0:12:34.320 I believe in the power of accepting things into your 0:12:34.360 --> 0:12:37.720 spirit and life. Do you know what I mean? So, like, 0:12:38.000 --> 0:12:41.680 I don't necessarily know that I've ever had a ghostly experience, 0:12:42.080 --> 0:12:45.320 but I do believe that Like if I were to 0:12:45.480 --> 0:12:48.040 funk around with the Uiji board or funk around with 0:12:48.080 --> 0:12:51.120 some juju or voodoo or whatever you want to call it, 0:12:51.480 --> 0:12:54.839 then I am welcoming something into my spirit, then I'm 0:12:54.880 --> 0:12:57.960 not gonna be able to just walk away from later. Now, 0:12:58.000 --> 0:13:01.359 how do you justify that with when you do mushrooms 0:13:01.400 --> 0:13:04.120 and you see ship that ain't really there. Mm hmm. 0:13:04.960 --> 0:13:08.720 That's a good question. I think that it's not that dissimilar. 0:13:08.840 --> 0:13:11.680 Maybe that like, now I did the drugs, so I 0:13:11.760 --> 0:13:14.199 welcomed some ship into my brain that you know what 0:13:14.240 --> 0:13:19.360 I'm saying, Yeah, yeah, yeah, I see it. Yeah, And 0:13:19.400 --> 0:13:22.880 so you're saying this trip to Nigeria in some ways 0:13:22.960 --> 0:13:27.040 was sort of mushrooms being introduced and allowing you to 0:13:27.120 --> 0:13:30.240 see something that that other people may not be able 0:13:30.280 --> 0:13:34.640 to see. Absolutely absolutely, it's all like I'm gonna sound 0:13:34.640 --> 0:13:40.240 like um finnah, sound like it's amative, like he's just 0:13:40.280 --> 0:13:43.040 trying to take your money. But it's all spiritual. Brother. 0:13:47.040 --> 0:13:50.280 By this water, it's good water. This is holy water. 0:13:57.280 --> 0:14:00.880 Did though it is, it's a spiritual thing. I remember 0:14:01.320 --> 0:14:03.679 when we shot our Half Hours, we were in New 0:14:03.800 --> 0:14:08.280 Orleans and apparently the hotel that we stayed in was haunted. 0:14:08.400 --> 0:14:11.200 That's what all the white women that also shot Half 0:14:11.200 --> 0:14:14.000 Hours that year kept telling me was that this is 0:14:14.040 --> 0:14:18.040 a haunted hotel. And they each had had experiences where 0:14:18.040 --> 0:14:21.120 they either saw a little girl running down the hallway 0:14:21.160 --> 0:14:24.360 that wasn't there, or like another little girl that was 0:14:24.400 --> 0:14:26.400 sitting at the edge of the bed. Like there were 0:14:26.440 --> 0:14:29.320 like three different women, all of whom told me that 0:14:29.440 --> 0:14:32.440 they had like these ghostly experiences. And then when you 0:14:32.560 --> 0:14:35.760 pry further, you find out that at some point in 0:14:35.800 --> 0:14:41.040 their lives they had interacted with like ghostly behavior and 0:14:41.080 --> 0:14:44.600 so yeah, y'all are the ones seeing it. Meanwhile, I'm 0:14:44.640 --> 0:14:48.000 sucking in a New Orleans hotel. It's wait, wait, wait, 0:14:48.000 --> 0:14:50.600 because I stayed in a haunted hotel before two and 0:14:50.920 --> 0:14:53.400 the same same, same experience, actually in another country I 0:14:53.680 --> 0:14:55.800 forget where, but in another country where I was like 0:14:56.560 --> 0:14:58.440 this feel like what did those be at? You know, 0:14:58.560 --> 0:15:01.360 when you when you in fucking Ireland or wherever you 0:15:01.400 --> 0:15:02.520 I don't know where I was. I think it was 0:15:02.520 --> 0:15:05.560 in Germany or some ship. But when you stay in 0:15:05.560 --> 0:15:09.400 like the woods in Germany, nigger, it feels like, oh, 0:15:09.520 --> 0:15:14.880 now this is so did you have? Ain'ty like you know, 0:15:14.920 --> 0:15:17.320 you're getting the hotel room and you and I was 0:15:17.400 --> 0:15:20.600 quiet by yourself. Let's set the let's set the mood 0:15:21.000 --> 0:15:25.680 by yourself. Now, well, let's be clear, it's not that quiet. 0:15:26.120 --> 0:15:29.080 Say yes to the dress is probably playing in the background. 0:15:29.120 --> 0:15:31.720 At this point in my life, but I get your point. 0:15:31.800 --> 0:15:35.160 It's it's it's not as noisy as it should have 0:15:35.200 --> 0:15:37.840 been exactly. But you play say yes to the dress 0:15:37.840 --> 0:15:39.920 because you didn't want to see the ghosts. I'm terribly 0:15:39.960 --> 0:15:42.400 afraid of the quiet, and I agree that that is 0:15:42.440 --> 0:15:46.800 why on That's my point is like you call somebody now, 0:15:47.240 --> 0:15:50.440 now you're like you are getting goose bumps and you're like, oh, ship, 0:15:50.600 --> 0:15:53.480 let me let me get some human interaction to something. 0:15:53.920 --> 0:15:56.440 I ain't gonna lie. I'd be having thoughts because you 0:15:56.480 --> 0:15:59.200 know you watched the shot it right, Yes, of course, 0:15:59.200 --> 0:16:00.960 so I'll be having though It's like like it's like 0:16:01.000 --> 0:16:03.160 the shining black man. I'll suck them little kids up. 0:16:03.960 --> 0:16:06.760 That's where that's where my brain go. Man, what's up? 0:16:06.760 --> 0:16:10.040 What's up? What's up? And I'm really scared, but like 0:16:10.280 --> 0:16:13.160 you know, yeah, but y'all are still two little girls 0:16:13.160 --> 0:16:15.800 holding hands in the hallway. I'll kick the ship out 0:16:15.800 --> 0:16:18.200 of you, exactly because when it comes down to it, 0:16:18.200 --> 0:16:20.200 they come to your face and you know, you, sweet, 0:16:19.960 --> 0:16:28.920 you just look like a crazy I told you he did, right. 0:16:29.040 --> 0:16:31.640 Somebody else comes outing hallway and it's just you alone 0:16:32.480 --> 0:16:38.040 fighting to visible children. Yeah, now you're up. I told 0:16:38.080 --> 0:16:42.040 you should have put them off for Okay, let me 0:16:42.080 --> 0:16:44.920 ask you this, because I do think I really love 0:16:45.000 --> 0:16:48.120 what you're saying about going to this foreign place and 0:16:48.160 --> 0:16:51.880 then experiencing something that is true to them on a 0:16:51.960 --> 0:16:54.560 daily basis, and then being able to walk back to 0:16:55.320 --> 0:16:58.880 quote unquote home with this new information. How many of 0:16:58.920 --> 0:17:03.200 the people, because you're your family's Nigerian, they're they're living 0:17:03.240 --> 0:17:07.000 in Houston, how many of the people back home still 0:17:07.040 --> 0:17:13.000 maintain these theories, these things that that came from Nigeria. Oh, 0:17:13.119 --> 0:17:15.520 back home, back home in Nigeria, back home in Houston, 0:17:15.640 --> 0:17:17.560 back home in Houston. How many people in here on 0:17:17.600 --> 0:17:23.280 American soil are like yo, Well, my my people grew 0:17:23.359 --> 0:17:27.080 up in Nigeria, so my dad, my mom, they moved 0:17:27.119 --> 0:17:30.520 out here when they was. My dad was nineteen years 0:17:30.520 --> 0:17:32.159 old when he came out here, and he kind of 0:17:33.240 --> 0:17:35.840 constantly goes back and forth, but most of his life 0:17:35.880 --> 0:17:40.919 was in Nigeria. So they definitely believe in it. I 0:17:40.960 --> 0:17:43.520 can see it. Like my mom's sister is as as 0:17:43.560 --> 0:17:46.639 a pastor and her her husband was a pastor, her 0:17:46.720 --> 0:17:48.960 son is a pastor, and they I can see it. 0:17:49.080 --> 0:17:51.159 I don't. I've never actually had a real conversation with 0:17:51.280 --> 0:17:53.640 them about it, and it would be interesting to have one. 0:17:53.760 --> 0:17:58.040 But I can see, like their spirituality, it definitely comes 0:17:58.119 --> 0:17:59.800 from a place where it's like if I talk to 0:17:59.880 --> 0:18:02.160 them about that, they're like, they're gonna they're gonna, like again, 0:18:02.280 --> 0:18:03.960 like I said, they're gonna phrase it in a way 0:18:04.520 --> 0:18:06.680 that's not They might not use the word voodoo or 0:18:06.800 --> 0:18:09.120 jazz or juju, but they'll say, you know, there's bad 0:18:09.160 --> 0:18:13.320 spirits and there's good spirits, battle between the spiritual world 0:18:13.400 --> 0:18:15.800 and the physical world always every day you wake up. 0:18:15.840 --> 0:18:18.000 They're gonna say it like that, but they're not gonna 0:18:18.119 --> 0:18:21.000 they might not say like, yeah, it's a nigga with 0:18:21.119 --> 0:18:24.800 a fire and a hat, like like like the man 0:18:26.720 --> 0:18:31.040 from the All right, But yeah, man, yeah, I think 0:18:31.200 --> 0:18:33.480 some of that and that's really interesting. I think some 0:18:33.640 --> 0:18:37.080 of that just sounds like a like a language transfer, 0:18:37.320 --> 0:18:40.960 right that, like you come to America, you start speaking 0:18:41.720 --> 0:18:46.040 a different type of language, you start speaking differently with 0:18:46.160 --> 0:18:50.520 the people around you, And so juju is a word 0:18:50.840 --> 0:18:54.639 that on average the American person would be like the 0:18:54.760 --> 0:18:56.760 funk out of here, what are you talking about? And 0:18:56.840 --> 0:18:59.520 so you remove like the trigger words you say like 0:19:00.000 --> 0:19:02.320 a still believe in what I believe in, but I'll 0:19:02.320 --> 0:19:04.080 take out all the things that are gonna make you 0:19:04.240 --> 0:19:06.920 react in some crazy way and at least allow you 0:19:07.000 --> 0:19:11.199 to understand me on like a surface level. Yeah, absolutely, 0:19:11.400 --> 0:19:14.200 because now now you get now you get that white dollar. 0:19:14.720 --> 0:19:21.720 All right, They they they even't gotten people because you're 0:19:21.760 --> 0:19:25.080 like you I feel juju. Yeah, hell, that sounds like 0:19:25.160 --> 0:19:29.200 a candy alright. I think we've had enough of your 0:19:29.280 --> 0:19:35.480 antics tonight. You started saying words like spiritual warfare and 0:19:35.720 --> 0:19:39.000 it's a battle between the you know, the heaven in 0:19:39.119 --> 0:19:42.480 hell now people, because that's um um C. S. Lewis 0:19:42.600 --> 0:19:45.720 whole thing, his books, like with the Great Divorce and everything. 0:19:45.800 --> 0:19:48.040 It was like, you know, that's this whole thing. And yeah, 0:19:48.160 --> 0:19:50.359 you started talking like that. You could be a Trump supporter. 0:19:50.760 --> 0:19:53.160 You're you're part of the team. You're part of the team. 0:19:53.240 --> 0:19:57.360 Now you whole it's a whole thing, man. So you know, definitely, 0:19:57.480 --> 0:19:59.720 But I really do think you know, it dates back 0:20:00.240 --> 0:20:03.439 to like slavery, like slaves was into all of that stuff. 0:20:03.480 --> 0:20:06.399 So I don't think it's going away. It's just taking 0:20:06.480 --> 0:20:09.680 like definitely, like you said, different names, different forms all that. Yeah, 0:20:09.760 --> 0:20:11.960 And I do think that that's sort of. I think 0:20:12.000 --> 0:20:14.760 it's a corny thing that sort of happens as we 0:20:14.920 --> 0:20:18.080 move along in like generations and and sort of grow 0:20:18.240 --> 0:20:21.000 and blah blah blah blah blah. I think we we 0:20:21.160 --> 0:20:23.680 reached this point where we start to just want to 0:20:23.760 --> 0:20:26.639 make fun of the generations that came before us, Like, 0:20:26.720 --> 0:20:29.800 look at these stupid motherfuckers for doing a thing that 0:20:29.920 --> 0:20:33.000 they believed in back then. We're so advanced, we're much 0:20:33.080 --> 0:20:35.159 smarter than that now. And it's like, I don't know 0:20:35.280 --> 0:20:37.919 that we are. I actually don't think we're advancing at 0:20:37.960 --> 0:20:40.000 the rate that we think we are. We just are 0:20:40.119 --> 0:20:44.000 rearticulating our advancements in a in a way that makes 0:20:44.119 --> 0:20:49.000 us feels it's three it's three planes. Now, it's the 0:20:49.119 --> 0:20:54.680 spiritual realm, it's the physical realm, and it's the digital realm. 0:20:55.040 --> 0:20:59.080 Oh you know what I'm saying. Listen, listen, brom going somewhere. 0:20:59.160 --> 0:21:01.720 Hold on to do your little minute, because it sound 0:21:01.760 --> 0:21:03.480 like you're about to talk that talk. You're trying to 0:21:03.560 --> 0:21:07.359 talk some talk. Now, really, let's let's go. Let's I'm 0:21:07.400 --> 0:21:10.479 gonna give you the music. You talk, your talk go crazy. 0:21:11.560 --> 0:21:16.040 I gotta talk over the music. Yeah, Okay, So well, 0:21:16.080 --> 0:21:19.280 now you're ruining. It's the it's the spiritual realm, it's 0:21:19.320 --> 0:21:22.879 the physical realm, and it's the digital realm inside of 0:21:22.920 --> 0:21:25.359 the like I feel like I'm doing a ted talk 0:21:25.840 --> 0:21:33.080 that's going nowhere. But inside of the like you know 0:21:33.280 --> 0:21:35.240 the two, you know the too, you know the too, 0:21:35.400 --> 0:21:38.680 the physical and the spiritual. But inside of the digital. 0:21:38.760 --> 0:21:41.600 Now it's like this place where you can actually fake 0:21:41.720 --> 0:21:44.200 what's in the physical. You can't never fake what's in 0:21:44.240 --> 0:21:46.600 the spiritual at all. Like that ship is what it 0:21:46.800 --> 0:21:49.320 is and it's the reality of it. And in the physical, 0:21:49.320 --> 0:21:51.760 if you want to actually accept what it is in 0:21:51.800 --> 0:21:54.320 the spiritual, you can, But you can also play yourself 0:21:54.400 --> 0:21:56.520 and try to like whatever whatever now you're adding. Now 0:21:56.560 --> 0:21:58.439 you're not really telling yourself the truth. You're not being 0:21:58.440 --> 0:22:01.280 honest with yourself and the digit. You're faking it to 0:22:01.359 --> 0:22:03.520 the rest of the world, you know what I'm saying. 0:22:03.840 --> 0:22:06.720 So like everybody else, you're like, oh, look I'm out 0:22:06.800 --> 0:22:09.080 here and saloom, I'm out here doing this. I'm out 0:22:09.119 --> 0:22:10.560 here that this is that in the third and it 0:22:10.600 --> 0:22:12.280 could be in the reverse too. You could also be 0:22:12.359 --> 0:22:15.160 looking like a bump online and really be having bread. 0:22:15.520 --> 0:22:18.080 You know what, I'm saying because nigga, I don't listen. 0:22:18.240 --> 0:22:22.840 That's my the nerd on the internet. But if you 0:22:23.040 --> 0:22:28.280 come look at a niggle for real, I'm gonna be honest. 0:22:28.320 --> 0:22:30.760 Nobody's gonna give you pussy because of this podcast, so 0:22:30.840 --> 0:22:35.520 you can. You're gonna let that little dream go. That 0:22:35.680 --> 0:22:39.200 was beautiful and listen. I've never seen someone failed talk 0:22:39.280 --> 0:22:42.800 that talk worse that you. You. Truly, you did not 0:22:43.040 --> 0:22:45.800 nail it in any kind of way. Normally I always 0:22:45.880 --> 0:22:50.160 punctuated with a cool drop afterwards to make everybody feel 0:22:50.200 --> 0:22:55.120