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Speaker 1: it is. Ladies and gentlemen, Welcome to another phenomenal episode

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Speaker 1: we finally worked to prove that shemar More, even shemar

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Speaker 1: you know I'm coming in hot. I always say am

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Speaker 1: Mr Kevin, I thank you, thank you for reading that

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Speaker 1: like you wouldn't pay to say it. Yeah, you know

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Speaker 1: I don't know how you know what color Shamar Morris

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Speaker 1: she just gave out another how many billion everybody got?

424
00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:17,280
Speaker 1: Now everybody aren't broke, you know what I'm saying, So

425
00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:22,600
Speaker 1: like so like so like in a way, absolutely, it's

426
00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:25,240
Speaker 1: already here. But it's just even to say like Peter

427
00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:27,920
Speaker 1: pop Off with all the you know, when he was

428
00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:31,919
Speaker 1: selling all the miracle water, the miracle waterin the rags.

429
00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:34,280
Speaker 1: You know, you wipe this rag, you be cancer free

430
00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:37,920
Speaker 1: by this rag, wipe it on your head. So absolutely,

431
00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:41,879
Speaker 1: you know, it's just it's just like everything else, it's americanized,

432
00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:47,760
Speaker 1: it's westernized now here, but it's our version of it. Yeah, yeah,

433
00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:50,000
Speaker 1: that to your point, there isn't that much of a

434
00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:53,160
Speaker 1: difference between this dude selling miracle water and these other

435
00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:56,240
Speaker 1: people who are basically saying like, you can cleanse yourself

436
00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:59,879
Speaker 1: with these objects or waters or whatever the funk it is.

437
00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:04,320
Speaker 1: And the only difference is that America trusted more from

438
00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:06,960
Speaker 1: a white dude in a suit than they do from

439
00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:11,000
Speaker 1: some Nigerian person who like, may also have a suit on,

440
00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:13,000
Speaker 1: but it ain't as suit we recognize. So we like,

441
00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:17,320
Speaker 1: get the funk out of here with that ship, and

442
00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:24,160
Speaker 1: soon we recognize a ship. Now that's funny, that's funny

443
00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:27,359
Speaker 1: as fun But just to say too, because I don't

444
00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:30,360
Speaker 1: I don't, I do think that there's also a good juju,

445
00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:34,240
Speaker 1: good voodoo, good jazz, and good version and there's a

446
00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:37,000
Speaker 1: bad version, just to say, like that's what I believe, No,

447
00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:40,440
Speaker 1: I think, And I think that's important also for everybody

448
00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:44,160
Speaker 1: to understand, is that it the negative connotation is truly

449
00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:47,639
Speaker 1: just the way that you use these things. It is

450
00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:51,400
Speaker 1: not to say that these things themselves are inherently bad.

451
00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:55,280
Speaker 1: Eloquently put thanks man, That's why I'm in charge of

452
00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:58,360
Speaker 1: the podcast. Anyway, We're gonna take a break and We'll

453
00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:00,760
Speaker 1: be back with Mark, Kevin Eislough and more, my mama

454
00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:17,640
Speaker 1: told me, And we are back. Do you have your passport?

455
00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:21,879
Speaker 1: Did you get your shots? Girl? Would you like to

456
00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:32,320
Speaker 1: come back with rob to a bandit? I'm yep, We're

457
00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:35,080
Speaker 1: back here with more Kevin. I saw more. My mama

458
00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:38,120
Speaker 1: told me. We're still talking about jazz and and juju

459
00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:42,720
Speaker 1: and all the different iterations of of voodoo that existed

460
00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:46,159
Speaker 1: before voodoo that's sort of birth voodoo in America, and

461
00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:49,520
Speaker 1: the things that Kevin believes. Is it just the gold

462
00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:52,000
Speaker 1: rings that you're you're sort of sold on or is

463
00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:54,639
Speaker 1: it all of it? Like literally anything they tell you,

464
00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:59,240
Speaker 1: You're like, yep, I'm I'm I'm with it. Whoa some

465
00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:02,760
Speaker 1: of it as wits and some of it is like, Okay,

466
00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:05,480
Speaker 1: I don't know anything about that, so I'm gonna believe it.

467
00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:09,360
Speaker 1: M hm. But I feel like naturally, and I don't

468
00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:11,800
Speaker 1: want to sound like I'm a gullible human being, I'm not.

469
00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:17,160
Speaker 1: But naturally, I'm actually extremely skeptical of ship. So when

470
00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:19,320
Speaker 1: they told me, like my my auntie was telling me

471
00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:22,040
Speaker 1: the other day, she said, like that, it usually starts

472
00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:23,879
Speaker 1: in the form of a question, like they'll ask like

473
00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:25,840
Speaker 1: where are you going? Or do you want to make

474
00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:28,480
Speaker 1: more money or whatever. But whenever I'm traveling and somebody

475
00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:30,680
Speaker 1: talked to me like that, I'm already like, no, I

476
00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:32,840
Speaker 1: know I'm going, even if I don't know where I'm going,

477
00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:36,560
Speaker 1: just because like I'm used to all of that. I

478
00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:39,240
Speaker 1: don't live in the Bronx, I don't live in Brooklyn.

479
00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:40,960
Speaker 1: I don't live in a lot of places, and that

480
00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:43,639
Speaker 1: and being in Nigeria in itself, like when you get

481
00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:47,399
Speaker 1: off the airport, like do start grabbing you? Like like

482
00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:52,680
Speaker 1: I've never grabbed a girl. I don't even think. I

483
00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:54,760
Speaker 1: don't even I don't even think people do this anymore,

484
00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:56,760
Speaker 1: to be honest, because you know how tom fly and

485
00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:59,280
Speaker 1: you don't even really realize, like it's a different era,

486
00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:02,560
Speaker 1: but they're like holding onto something that like really happened

487
00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:04,679
Speaker 1: ten years ago, but you acting like it happy yesterday.

488
00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:07,680
Speaker 1: But you know how, Like like when I was in college,

489
00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:10,480
Speaker 1: like dudes would be like outside the club. I'm sure

490
00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:13,320
Speaker 1: they still do this ship, but they do it. They'll

491
00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:15,479
Speaker 1: be outside the club and they'll be like grabbing girls

492
00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:18,280
Speaker 1: like like you don't know her nothing from nowhere, but

493
00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:20,720
Speaker 1: you'd be outside and it's not parking lot pimp and

494
00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:23,280
Speaker 1: parking lot pimping different. It's like parking lot pimping. You

495
00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:25,240
Speaker 1: you're in front of the car, you playing your music,

496
00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:28,119
Speaker 1: She's like, oh you gotta Porsche. Yeah. Parking lot pimping

497
00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:31,119
Speaker 1: is about the she catched the vibe and then you

498
00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:33,960
Speaker 1: can move it from there. This is about literally trying

499
00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:37,520
Speaker 1: to really snatch a woman from her path. You don't

500
00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:42,400
Speaker 1: got no car, you're just grabbing girls. Like, hey, you're

501
00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:47,640
Speaker 1: trying to take a walk, but bit while you walk

502
00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:49,400
Speaker 1: it it's always your man that would never let you

503
00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:55,680
Speaker 1: walk nowhere, Like really, niggert, that's the line that you yeah, no,

504
00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:59,680
Speaker 1: it's it's I definitely yes. I remember that era of

505
00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:03,480
Speaker 1: like of culture right that that was, like it reminds

506
00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:06,400
Speaker 1: me so much of like a cameraon era of like

507
00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:09,240
Speaker 1: a black man, you know what I mean. Cameron in

508
00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:11,600
Speaker 1: his heyday was a nigga who would grab your hand

509
00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:15,680
Speaker 1: as you're leaving the club. Absolutely, but Cameron got money.

510
00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:19,080
Speaker 1: A lot of these niggas grabbing they just they just

511
00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:21,080
Speaker 1: grabbing because this is this is all they got to

512
00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:24,640
Speaker 1: hold onto, right, So they wasn't even in the club

513
00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:27,080
Speaker 1: the whole night, and he outside grabbing your hand. But

514
00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:30,400
Speaker 1: so that's but that's how they was. That's how they

515
00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:34,000
Speaker 1: was grabbing me in Nigeria, grabbing me by my hand

516
00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:36,520
Speaker 1: and ship. So like that element of it, I was

517
00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:39,040
Speaker 1: just like, damn, like this is like really aggressive. So

518
00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:43,000
Speaker 1: that part of it, like I'm already blocking off that

519
00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:47,960
Speaker 1: anything that I don't know if they like yo frog

520
00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:50,600
Speaker 1: legs and all of that ship. Once you start throwing

521
00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:53,320
Speaker 1: in words and animals that I'm not like used to

522
00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:56,640
Speaker 1: seeing on a daily basis, I believe it. It's like

523
00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:58,960
Speaker 1: as soon as you're like, yeah, it's a you know,

524
00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:03,200
Speaker 1: reindeer antlers or shark fin and all that ship, I'm like, oh,

525
00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:08,000
Speaker 1: that's a real thing. Okay. So I don't know what

526
00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:11,240
Speaker 1: raindeer do, but if you put them, like if somebody

527
00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:13,720
Speaker 1: told you, like Langston, like if you get a monkey

528
00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:16,600
Speaker 1: tail and a rabbit ear and you put it in

529
00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:20,680
Speaker 1: a pot, bro, it'll like it'll make your hair grow, like,

530
00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:25,840
Speaker 1: it'll feel it, it'll fill out your beard. Right, somebody

531
00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:27,800
Speaker 1: tell me that, I'd be like, Okay, I believe it

532
00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:30,800
Speaker 1: because I'm never gonna do it. Right, I'm never going

533
00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:35,160
Speaker 1: to collect these three items and mix them. Even if

534
00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:37,400
Speaker 1: I did get a monkey tail, which I don't plan

535
00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:40,240
Speaker 1: to get anytime soon. That's gonna be my third phase

536
00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:42,480
Speaker 1: of my life. But when I get a monkey tail,

537
00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:46,800
Speaker 1: I don't see myself then grinding it up into monkey

538
00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:50,480
Speaker 1: tail powder and then mixing it with some rabbit foot

539
00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:53,040
Speaker 1: and being like I and now I'm ready to fill

540
00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:55,160
Speaker 1: in my beard. It's like, no, I'm just gonna have

541
00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:57,240
Speaker 1: a rabbit tail and I'll put it in the case

542
00:30:57,400 --> 00:30:59,840
Speaker 1: and be like y'all trying to see a rabbit tail

543
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:02,800
Speaker 1: are a monkey ass? I got both. Now I'm ready

544
00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:04,720
Speaker 1: to fill in my beard. Some people would say that's

545
00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:06,880
Speaker 1: also how COVID started. I'm not gonna say that, but

546
00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:13,520
Speaker 1: I just some people would say that that's how COVID.

547
00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:19,200
Speaker 1: It was grinding up monkey too mixed with rabbit Now

548
00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:21,720
Speaker 1: we all try. It was trying to get a full beard.

549
00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:28,600
Speaker 1: It was a man and wanted to full beard. Now

550
00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:31,840
Speaker 1: I gotta stay inside for nine months, this crazy, this

551
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:40,000
Speaker 1: thing wanted alright. Well, now we're canceled, and this was

552
00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:43,280
Speaker 1: a great episode. I want to jump into some of

553
00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:46,160
Speaker 1: this research. I did a fair amount of research on

554
00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:49,720
Speaker 1: the subject, and and let's just start simply, and a

555
00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:53,040
Speaker 1: lot of this you've already covered juju jazz ing as

556
00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:55,480
Speaker 1: it relates to the world of West Africa seems to

557
00:31:56,040 --> 00:32:00,080
Speaker 1: specifically refer to the idea of infusing magic in to

558
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:05,360
Speaker 1: ambulets or trinkets or even a person right in order

559
00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:08,280
Speaker 1: to enact your wishes. And those wishes, like you said,

560
00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:11,760
Speaker 1: can be positive or they can be negative. They don't

561
00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:15,320
Speaker 1: have to necessarily correlate with good or bad. And West

562
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:20,120
Speaker 1: Africa also sort of tends to use language that implies

563
00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:24,160
Speaker 1: black magic or omens or curses. Voodoo is the thing

564
00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:27,840
Speaker 1: that we know in America and attempts to protect oneself

565
00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:31,720
Speaker 1: from the sinister unseen world, right, and that sort of

566
00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:35,080
Speaker 1: goes back to what you were saying about like your

567
00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:38,240
Speaker 1: parents sort of using the idea of like the devil

568
00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:41,560
Speaker 1: at work and like the sinister things that are in

569
00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:46,720
Speaker 1: sort of like play. It's all protection and or activation

570
00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:49,840
Speaker 1: against things that you don't care for in the world.

571
00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:56,200
Speaker 1: Absolutely absolutely, So you know how there's like Greek mythology

572
00:32:56,360 --> 00:33:00,440
Speaker 1: and Greek gods and then Susan and Chrono send all

573
00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:05,320
Speaker 1: of them, guys. There's also like African mythology, so there's Shoe,

574
00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:09,040
Speaker 1: there's whoever Beyonce be talking about on her songs to

575
00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:11,720
Speaker 1: get her name. But it's a water like the people

576
00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:13,680
Speaker 1: that know they're gonna listen to this thing, like you

577
00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:16,880
Speaker 1: talk about that, but I don't know, I don't I

578
00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:21,640
Speaker 1: don't know off top of my head. Yeah, you know,

579
00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:25,200
Speaker 1: my wife, My wife is gonna be high. I gotta

580
00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:32,720
Speaker 1: pay attention sometimes. So all of that stuff actually it

581
00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:36,280
Speaker 1: plays into you know what you're what you're talking about?

582
00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:42,440
Speaker 1: Where is like even though I personally believe that a

583
00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:46,640
Speaker 1: lot of the Greek mythology derived from the African mythology,

584
00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:50,320
Speaker 1: and then a lot of the African mythology, it's just like,

585
00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:53,880
Speaker 1: of course, like every like again everything else and become

586
00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:56,680
Speaker 1: a part of gaspora, and the ship spread and information

587
00:33:56,760 --> 00:33:58,840
Speaker 1: get lost, and it's like that whisper game, like you

588
00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:01,600
Speaker 1: say this to that person, you come back and it's

589
00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:04,280
Speaker 1: a whole different name, you know, so s you turned

590
00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:10,880
Speaker 1: into right whoever? To your point, it's it's cultural telephone,

591
00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:14,720
Speaker 1: and so it becomes like us coming up with phrases

592
00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:20,680
Speaker 1: spot cultural telephone. Yeah, listen, I love how impressed you

593
00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:23,959
Speaker 1: are with me. Just the repeating bad things you're saying

594
00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:27,080
Speaker 1: to me in different words. It's it's truly, it's I've

595
00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:30,760
Speaker 1: never felt more confident. I'm alive, motherfucker. This is great.

596
00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:34,680
Speaker 1: I do like the idea though, that that in some

597
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:39,160
Speaker 1: ways we are all sort of like circulating the same

598
00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:42,440
Speaker 1: premises and then adding our little like spin to it

599
00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:45,600
Speaker 1: much in the way that like everybody's just making food

600
00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:48,799
Speaker 1: with rice, but then you just add your own way

601
00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:51,560
Speaker 1: of you know, y'all you make a different race than

602
00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:54,080
Speaker 1: I make rice, and then we all have different race.

603
00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:57,480
Speaker 1: But it's rice all the same, absolutely as long as

604
00:34:57,560 --> 00:35:04,319
Speaker 1: the rice isn't whitewashed. M hmm, good. Yeah, that we'll

605
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:07,399
Speaker 1: say that it's bad. It's bad, it's oh my god,

606
00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:10,200
Speaker 1: I just I just had a whole I don't even

607
00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:12,000
Speaker 1: want to say this on the podcast, and I might

608
00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:17,640
Speaker 1: say it because they're not gonna listen to this. So

609
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:21,600
Speaker 1: I went to my no just speaking on bad rice. Now,

610
00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:24,359
Speaker 1: I don't know I'm going off topic, but I went

611
00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:27,440
Speaker 1: to my man's place and he just got married, and

612
00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:32,200
Speaker 1: uh and his wife made some rice, and god damn

613
00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:34,799
Speaker 1: if I didn't know she was white before I knew

614
00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:37,960
Speaker 1: she was white. When that race came out, Jesus Christ,

615
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:42,160
Speaker 1: it was awful, like but it was bad. It was bad.

616
00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:45,520
Speaker 1: It was bad blind and you were like, bro, man,

617
00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:48,200
Speaker 1: I bet your wife is beautiful. I don't know race,

618
00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:50,759
Speaker 1: but I bet she's a gorgeous woman. And then you

619
00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:53,240
Speaker 1: tasted and you're like, oh, you don't marry the devil,

620
00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:58,239
Speaker 1: You're married a cursed So this is this is a

621
00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:02,239
Speaker 1: fucking white woman because you know how rice. Okay, so

622
00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:04,320
Speaker 1: you're eating rice, so you know how rice like you

623
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:07,120
Speaker 1: can get you can make rice where you can take

624
00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:10,480
Speaker 1: each rice. I don't know the word each grain. But

625
00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:13,160
Speaker 1: then you also got that rice where the ship just together,

626
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:16,000
Speaker 1: it's a whole. It's like nachos. You're like, damn, I

627
00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:19,839
Speaker 1: can't get the ship apart for nothing. So that ship

628
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:21,640
Speaker 1: was like that, and I'm just like I had to

629
00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:28,000
Speaker 1: eat it, bro, bro, bro, like that ship was. I

630
00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:30,560
Speaker 1: had to take a sip after each bite. I was like, yeah,

631
00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:37,320
Speaker 1: some good rice the girl. So you say, y'all go

632
00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:43,399
Speaker 1: be together forever. Oh that's cool, that's cool. That ship

633
00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:47,680
Speaker 1: was awful. Now I'm happy that you're married, and I

634
00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:55,480
Speaker 1: think many blessings untold I wanted. Okay, this is one

635
00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:57,520
Speaker 1: of the things that surprised me in the research, and

636
00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:01,680
Speaker 1: I think this is important. I didn't realize how much

637
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:05,120
Speaker 1: of this isn't just something sort of locked in the

638
00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:10,800
Speaker 1: like cultural outskirts of like the African world, right, Like

639
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:14,160
Speaker 1: this isn't some ship where like only people in certain

640
00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:17,560
Speaker 1: areas believe it, or like outside of the big cities,

641
00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:22,440
Speaker 1: apparently it's a pretty well sort of like received almost

642
00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:25,640
Speaker 1: uh bleeds into public life. Like I write an article

643
00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:29,239
Speaker 1: about this state governor who refused to move into his

644
00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:34,879
Speaker 1: official home because magical objects had been left behind by

645
00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:39,120
Speaker 1: another governor who sought help by this elderly juju man

646
00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:42,760
Speaker 1: to rid state, to rid his state of like crop

647
00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:46,520
Speaker 1: eating insects. He was so afraid of the crop eating

648
00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:48,839
Speaker 1: insects that he hired a juju man to help get

649
00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:51,920
Speaker 1: rid of them. And then subsequently the dude who replaced

650
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:54,439
Speaker 1: him was like, nah, he left some of his ship

651
00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:58,200
Speaker 1: behind and I can't be walking into his space, which

652
00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:01,960
Speaker 1: is now you know, covered in in potentially bad omens,

653
00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:08,120
Speaker 1: bad juju. Yeah, them niggas is crazy, bro, Like yeah,

654
00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:11,440
Speaker 1: I always think about it. I think about it like

655
00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:15,239
Speaker 1: like the Avatar, Like you know when they when they're

656
00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:17,600
Speaker 1: choosing then Avatar, No, no, no, no, no, it's not

657
00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:20,400
Speaker 1: the Avatar. It's actually the Dalai Lama right when the

658
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:23,840
Speaker 1: Dali Lama and then they give them like certain objects

659
00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:26,160
Speaker 1: and they say like do this and do that. I

660
00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:28,680
Speaker 1: don't know the exactly, do you know. I don't know.

661
00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:31,880
Speaker 1: I could be basing this off of the film, so

662
00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:34,799
Speaker 1: I could be very bad, But I think that it's

663
00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:37,759
Speaker 1: it's they lay out a bunch of objects and then

664
00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:41,799
Speaker 1: the person is meant to choose, and in choosing, they're

665
00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:46,240
Speaker 1: able to identify who is in fact the chosen person

666
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:49,600
Speaker 1: because of the decision that they make right like like,

667
00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:52,960
Speaker 1: but they'll do it with babies, like so it's like

668
00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:55,359
Speaker 1: a baby that's just like and then they're like, oh,

669
00:38:55,480 --> 00:39:00,920
Speaker 1: this baby is chosen. It's an awesome baby. Did it's

670
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:12,759
Speaker 1: a dope at baby the keychain? Yeah? Baby. I think

671
00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:16,240
Speaker 1: of it like that where it's like those guys believe

672
00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:18,600
Speaker 1: in it. That's that in the third Yes, But I

673
00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:21,680
Speaker 1: also think that, like, you know, I'm not gonna make

674
00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:25,000
Speaker 1: my decisions based off a baby or another man personally,

675
00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:27,560
Speaker 1: Like I'm just not gonna do it. So if a

676
00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:30,080
Speaker 1: baby sit there and pick the key chain, I'm not

677
00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:32,120
Speaker 1: gonna come into office and be like, oh, the key

678
00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:37,319
Speaker 1: chain is the key people's hearts. Yeah, I think more importantly,

679
00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:40,480
Speaker 1: babies are just babies, do you know what I mean that? Like,

680
00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:43,319
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, babies aren't profits. They're

681
00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:46,960
Speaker 1: just humans with a soft spot in their head. And

682
00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:50,280
Speaker 1: so like I can't to your point, I can't spend

683
00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:54,640
Speaker 1: my life at the whim of what a child might

684
00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:57,600
Speaker 1: pick up. I've seen babies try to suck a man's

685
00:39:57,640 --> 00:40:01,480
Speaker 1: titty because they thought it also gave milk, Like there

686
00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:04,880
Speaker 1: is no other option. There's no chance that I presume

687
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:07,200
Speaker 1: that the baby is a smart person in it in

688
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:10,719
Speaker 1: that way, yes, But that's that's how I think that.

689
00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:14,440
Speaker 1: The like he went into office and he said, oh,

690
00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:17,400
Speaker 1: he did something here, So I'm not gonna be like

691
00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:20,800
Speaker 1: that's how that's how I think about. That's like Biden

692
00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:24,040
Speaker 1: assuming that Trump was smart, you know what I'm saying,

693
00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:26,560
Speaker 1: Like it's a little but even or even Trump like

694
00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:28,800
Speaker 1: not even to take sides, like even Trump assuming that

695
00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:31,520
Speaker 1: Obama was smart. Like it's like, oh, now I'm in

696
00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:33,560
Speaker 1: the White House and he did all this stuff with

697
00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:36,120
Speaker 1: this dog. Now we got to clean it out. It's

698
00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:39,160
Speaker 1: just like that now you granted him power in my

699
00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:42,560
Speaker 1: in my mind, because I do think like you were saying,

700
00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:48,319
Speaker 1: like it's it's it's particular to each individual. Like so, yeah,

701
00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:50,120
Speaker 1: a lot of them dooses. And you know they band

702
00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:52,960
Speaker 1: Twitter in Nigeria, Like it's crazy, right, they just don't

703
00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:58,160
Speaker 1: even want spreading around anymore than they probably already has. Yeah,

704
00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:02,280
Speaker 1: how you, how you and a whole social media platforms.

705
00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:05,319
Speaker 1: They're probably healthier for it. I'll be honest. I don't

706
00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:08,839
Speaker 1: think it's making us good people. So yeah, Bannitt, they're

707
00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:13,080
Speaker 1: doing the right thing. One of the things you sent me, uh,

708
00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:17,080
Speaker 1: when we first started talking about this original idea was

709
00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:20,359
Speaker 1: and it had a lot of interesting stuff, and specifically

710
00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:24,640
Speaker 1: the articles talked about like these kids who The way

711
00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:27,120
Speaker 1: that the the author found out about this whole thing

712
00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:30,359
Speaker 1: was these kids he grew up with, who rumor who

713
00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:33,719
Speaker 1: who had claimed to have had this this experience where

714
00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:37,800
Speaker 1: a preschool teacher gave them candy to take home, and

715
00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:40,400
Speaker 1: then they put the candy in their pockets, and instead

716
00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:42,319
Speaker 1: of eating the candy when they were told to eat

717
00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:44,680
Speaker 1: the candy, they left the candy in their pockets to

718
00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:47,080
Speaker 1: say for later, and by the time they were turned

719
00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:49,400
Speaker 1: to get the candy out of their pockets, the candy

720
00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:52,800
Speaker 1: had turned into human fingers. And this was meant to be.

721
00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:58,520
Speaker 1: I think a lesson on like gratitude and like doing

722
00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:01,880
Speaker 1: the right thing when you're told than following instructions. And

723
00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:05,560
Speaker 1: so you a boy, a child, reach into your pockets

724
00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:07,279
Speaker 1: a lot of human finger when you was trying to

725
00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:10,439
Speaker 1: get a junior mint, and suddenly you're scarred for life

726
00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:12,680
Speaker 1: because of that. But then also, I guess you've learned

727
00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:16,719
Speaker 1: a lesson. And so I wonder how much of this

728
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:21,120
Speaker 1: do you just see as allegory, as like a chance

729
00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:25,400
Speaker 1: to learn from the experiences you've had. I think that

730
00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:28,520
Speaker 1: a lot of it is actually allegory. I mean putting

731
00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:31,040
Speaker 1: it like that. Bro. It's like like again like you know,

732
00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:34,480
Speaker 1: to bring back C. S. Lewis, it's like all of that.

733
00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:37,839
Speaker 1: It's I think the Bible is a lot of alcory. Yes,

734
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:43,480
Speaker 1: to be honest. You know, so things that where you

735
00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:49,600
Speaker 1: say like when they said okay, and and in Africa

736
00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:52,239
Speaker 1: they've done it, and and in the Middle East they

737
00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:54,680
Speaker 1: do it to where it's like when you're stealing, they'll

738
00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:57,359
Speaker 1: cut off your hand you're stealing so you don't steal

739
00:42:57,480 --> 00:43:04,319
Speaker 1: no more, which is it's fair. It makes sense if

740
00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:09,000
Speaker 1: you're living by that logic. Yes, like it's like, okay,

741
00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:11,320
Speaker 1: then this is what what you do. But at the

742
00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:14,120
Speaker 1: same time too, it's also like a beating would have

743
00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:17,319
Speaker 1: withold would suffice, like like you didn't have to take

744
00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:21,200
Speaker 1: his whole hand for the rest of his life, like

745
00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:23,799
Speaker 1: you could have just like told him that was wrong.

746
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:26,040
Speaker 1: He gave him a stern talking to. He might have

747
00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:31,080
Speaker 1: also learned a lesson. I don't know, as I ain't

748
00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:35,560
Speaker 1: gotta be a left handed hooper for the rest just

749
00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:39,760
Speaker 1: crossing over from one hand to the same hand. Everybody

750
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:44,600
Speaker 1: think it's a deformity that he's like, no, and I

751
00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:47,960
Speaker 1: just really wanted some honey buns, and uh that was upset.

752
00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:52,440
Speaker 1: They didn't like absolutely. So yeah, I think that a

753
00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:55,640
Speaker 1: lot of that stuff. It's meant to be a message,

754
00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:58,480
Speaker 1: you know, that you take and you understand and then

755
00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:01,000
Speaker 1: you interpret into your own. My man was telling me

756
00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:03,440
Speaker 1: about he was reading something, but he was telling me,

757
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:07,840
Speaker 1: you know, that whole story of like Abraham sacrificing his

758
00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:11,239
Speaker 1: children is Abraham I don't know, I don't read Abraham

759
00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:15,359
Speaker 1: is asked by God to murder his son Isaac. There

760
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:18,839
Speaker 1: you go. So he was telling me that whole thing

761
00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:22,760
Speaker 1: is like, say, you're an alcoholic and Isaac is vodka

762
00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:26,280
Speaker 1: and God is asking you to get rid of vodka.

763
00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:29,600
Speaker 1: And you're like, I don't want to get rid of God.

764
00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:35,000
Speaker 1: You know I love Come on God, and God like,

765
00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:37,840
Speaker 1: get rid of vodka. And then you take vodka to

766
00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:41,080
Speaker 1: the altar and you're ready to sacrifice vodka, and then

767
00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:44,440
Speaker 1: got like, you can have vodka. Just making sure that

768
00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:47,680
Speaker 1: this is a horrible message, like us, a horrible analogy,

769
00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:51,160
Speaker 1: and the parents at home are not going to care

770
00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:55,160
Speaker 1: for you equating their children to a poison that we

771
00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:58,759
Speaker 1: drink to stop feeling things. That's that's it's a it's

772
00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:01,359
Speaker 1: a horrible analogy. But if you understand what I'm trying

773
00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:03,680
Speaker 1: to say, you get it. You know what I'm saying.

774
00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:08,240
Speaker 1: It's another allegory. Actually, so I do. I'm really glad

775
00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:12,840
Speaker 1: that you made the connection to Christianity because I started

776
00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:15,960
Speaker 1: reading articles about and you know, in terms of the

777
00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:18,919
Speaker 1: way white people write about these things that often has

778
00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:22,080
Speaker 1: like a negative connotation right there, not writing about in

779
00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:26,480
Speaker 1: in any light that that promotes positivity. But I read

780
00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:31,640
Speaker 1: this BBC article. It basically connects juju to human trafficking,

781
00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:35,040
Speaker 1: and it takes a few big steps here, but they

782
00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:39,440
Speaker 1: claim that these practices are more dangerous than physical chains.

783
00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:41,759
Speaker 1: And in the article, it talks about this twenty four

784
00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:45,520
Speaker 1: year old Nigerian woman who basically put these two other

785
00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:50,920
Speaker 1: girls through a series of like ritualistic Juju ceremonies in

786
00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:54,120
Speaker 1: order to make them so afraid of leaving that they

787
00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:57,239
Speaker 1: stayed under her control. She made them drink dirty water,

788
00:45:57,480 --> 00:46:00,560
Speaker 1: she made them eat snake and snails, and she even

789
00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:03,320
Speaker 1: shaved their heads, which made these women not want to

790
00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:06,160
Speaker 1: leave and allowed her to hold her hold them captive

791
00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:10,480
Speaker 1: and subsequently sell them into sex slavery. Right, And so

792
00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:13,719
Speaker 1: the article spends the entire time being like, this is

793
00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:16,879
Speaker 1: Juju's fault, this is awesome juju ship, and we gotta

794
00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:20,440
Speaker 1: be careful about Juju. And a part of me kept thinking,

795
00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:23,879
Speaker 1: I don't know, man, that that sounds like the same

796
00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:30,400
Speaker 1: thing the Bible does. Yeah, you know what I mean? Yeah, Na, na, no,

797
00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:32,239
Speaker 1: you went, you went, You went in on it, Like

798
00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:37,560
Speaker 1: it's definitely it's definitely a way to control Yeah, it's

799
00:46:37,560 --> 00:46:39,560
Speaker 1: a way to control people. It's the same thing. It's

800
00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:41,560
Speaker 1: the same thing Fox News does. It's the same thing

801
00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:44,840
Speaker 1: that CNN does. It's a way to like get people

802
00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:48,920
Speaker 1: underneath whatever umbrella of knowledge that you're trying to create

803
00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:52,719
Speaker 1: for them to understand. And then once they get that,

804
00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:56,120
Speaker 1: then it's like, Okay, we've gotten these people inside of

805
00:46:56,200 --> 00:46:59,920
Speaker 1: our circle. Now they're behind us, now they're not. Now

806
00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:02,560
Speaker 1: we've created an army or whatever it is that we're

807
00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:04,279
Speaker 1: trying to push. I don't know what it is that

808
00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:07,000
Speaker 1: they're trying to push. Apparently in this story, this guy's

809
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:12,839
Speaker 1: trying to make bread, but he sex trafficking whatever. But yeah, yeah, girl, yeah, yeah,

810
00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:15,800
Speaker 1: the same thing. It's like, you're trying to get people

811
00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:18,080
Speaker 1: behind you for whatever it is that you're It's the

812
00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:22,560
Speaker 1: same ship with all these fucking colts, the scientology ship,

813
00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:25,480
Speaker 1: the ship that I forget, the last Code thing that

814
00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:29,759
Speaker 1: they put on Netflix that everybody was watching, Next Joint,

815
00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:34,120
Speaker 1: the Nextium Joint. Yeah, yeah, it's the same ship. Like

816
00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:38,319
Speaker 1: you could really use anything, bro, you see people using

817
00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:42,759
Speaker 1: comedy to control people, Like people be really warped into

818
00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:44,799
Speaker 1: this ship where I'll just be like, bro, if I'm

819
00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:48,600
Speaker 1: not funny, I'm not funny. Like it's at the end

820
00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:50,319
Speaker 1: of the day, I'm gonna move on to the next thing,

821
00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:52,000
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna figure out a way to make this

822
00:47:52,040 --> 00:47:54,959
Speaker 1: ship happen. But you see people really like creating coats,

823
00:47:55,040 --> 00:47:57,560
Speaker 1: like doing comedy classes and all of this ship, and

824
00:47:57,640 --> 00:48:00,920
Speaker 1: it's like, who then need to class the last what?

825
00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:03,520
Speaker 1: What are you? What are we doing right now? So

826
00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:05,879
Speaker 1: all of that, Like like when I said it's good

827
00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:09,359
Speaker 1: and bad earlier about the voodoo ship, it's like it's

828
00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:13,480
Speaker 1: it's we're talking about voodoo, but we're really talking about everything,

829
00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:17,399
Speaker 1: like it's good and bad business. It's good and bad,

830
00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:20,279
Speaker 1: like I didn't got into this this hospital and it's

831
00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:22,840
Speaker 1: like this medical field and it's good and bad. Like,

832
00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:25,319
Speaker 1: oh ship, if I go this way, I'll be able

833
00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:28,160
Speaker 1: to make mad money, but then I'm also exploiting people.

834
00:48:28,239 --> 00:48:31,919
Speaker 1: And also all this fucking legal plastic surgery that I'm

835
00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:35,040
Speaker 1: doing that's legal, but it ain't legal like all of

836
00:48:35,080 --> 00:48:38,200
Speaker 1: that ship. So I hear what you're saying with that,

837
00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:41,040
Speaker 1: with that, I mean, with that article. But again, white

838
00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:46,000
Speaker 1: people are the reason that hold on. I hear you,

839
00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:49,960
Speaker 1: and honestly, I'll say this, that's how they get you,

840
00:48:50,120 --> 00:48:53,759
Speaker 1: because I do think even as I read this article, right,

841
00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:56,280
Speaker 1: even as I was sort of like going through this article,

842
00:48:56,320 --> 00:48:59,600
Speaker 1: a part of me felt like the article itself is

843
00:48:59,640 --> 00:49:02,920
Speaker 1: a of the occult right It is sort of like

844
00:49:03,239 --> 00:49:06,840
Speaker 1: that in action, because all it is is trying to

845
00:49:07,080 --> 00:49:10,480
Speaker 1: create a type of fear of something foreign or different.

846
00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:12,960
Speaker 1: Which isn't to say that what this girl is doing

847
00:49:13,120 --> 00:49:15,720
Speaker 1: is okay, It isn't. What she was doing was super

848
00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:19,120
Speaker 1: fucked up. If she is in fact human trafficking these women,

849
00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:22,120
Speaker 1: there's no excuse for that. But that doesn't mean that

850
00:49:22,200 --> 00:49:25,279
Speaker 1: we have to correlate a religion with that. We could

851
00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:27,880
Speaker 1: just call her a fucked up lady and say that

852
00:49:28,040 --> 00:49:31,800
Speaker 1: she misinterpreted what potentially could just be a way that

853
00:49:31,880 --> 00:49:34,680
Speaker 1: people get by, a way that people understand the world

854
00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:37,200
Speaker 1: much in the way that we do with Christianity or

855
00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:41,480
Speaker 1: Islam or whatever other religions exactly, bro, Because you can't

856
00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:44,560
Speaker 1: say that everybody that's like you say Islam, everybody is Muslim.

857
00:49:44,600 --> 00:49:47,080
Speaker 1: You can't say that they're bad but you. But Muslim

858
00:49:47,080 --> 00:49:50,040
Speaker 1: people will easily tell you, like yo, it's terrorists groups

859
00:49:50,120 --> 00:49:54,080
Speaker 1: that's associated with our religion, But they not us. They them,

860
00:49:54,480 --> 00:49:56,640
Speaker 1: they're doing their own things. They don't read the same ship.

861
00:49:57,120 --> 00:49:58,920
Speaker 1: They don't read the same ship we read, and then

862
00:49:58,960 --> 00:50:01,640
Speaker 1: they don't interpreted in the fund up weight and then

863
00:50:01,719 --> 00:50:04,360
Speaker 1: so now they're doing all this ship over here. But

864
00:50:04,520 --> 00:50:07,719
Speaker 1: you can't associate the whole group with that ship. I'm chilling.

865
00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:09,719
Speaker 1: I got my rug, I got my little hat, and

866
00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:12,360
Speaker 1: I ain't father nobody. Come on there, you just just

867
00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:20,080
Speaker 1: described the ladder. Hey, Disney did some fun up ship too.

868
00:50:20,239 --> 00:50:22,919
Speaker 1: They made some weird correlations. That don't mean I wasn't

869
00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:25,680
Speaker 1: describing a religion. That just means, hey, we gotta do

870
00:50:25,840 --> 00:50:32,000
Speaker 1: some uh analysis a deep die. Yeah, bro Okay, we're

871
00:50:32,040 --> 00:50:33,799
Speaker 1: gonna take one more break. We'll be back with more

872
00:50:33,880 --> 00:50:45,759
Speaker 1: Kevin eel and more, my mama told me. And we

873
00:50:46,680 --> 00:50:57,479
Speaker 1: are back. Yes, Ken, you lend the nigga a pencil. Yeah,

874
00:50:57,840 --> 00:51:01,600
Speaker 1: we're back here with mor Kevin Ecelo. My mama told me.

875
00:51:02,120 --> 00:51:04,839
Speaker 1: We're still talking about juju and jazz and and all

876
00:51:04,920 --> 00:51:08,680
Speaker 1: the stuff that comes from West Indian practices of of

877
00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:12,080
Speaker 1: faith and belief, good and bad. I think it's time

878
00:51:12,120 --> 00:51:14,120
Speaker 1: for us to play a game. Let's play a game.

879
00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:16,640
Speaker 1: And this is a very fun game that I've I've

880
00:51:16,719 --> 00:51:20,800
Speaker 1: cooked up special for you. It's called what Juju would

881
00:51:20,880 --> 00:51:29,560
Speaker 1: you Do? I put a spell on you my ship again,

882
00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:32,120
Speaker 1: it's what Juju would you do? And the way that

883
00:51:32,200 --> 00:51:35,400
Speaker 1: this works, I'm going to introduce to you some celebrities

884
00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:39,080
Speaker 1: who I believe could use a little bit of juju

885
00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:42,719
Speaker 1: to help fix some of the problems that have arisen

886
00:51:42,840 --> 00:51:46,560
Speaker 1: in their lives. And my ask for you, Kevin, is

887
00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:49,640
Speaker 1: that you suggest a little bit of juju that you

888
00:51:49,880 --> 00:51:52,680
Speaker 1: think they could handle, that that would help make their

889
00:51:52,760 --> 00:51:54,960
Speaker 1: lives a little better based on the things that have

890
00:51:55,080 --> 00:51:58,359
Speaker 1: happened to them. Does that make sense? Okay? What are

891
00:51:58,400 --> 00:52:00,479
Speaker 1: you gonna give me the juju? Tou or I gotta

892
00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:03,440
Speaker 1: make this is all you, baby? This this is some fun,

893
00:52:03,560 --> 00:52:08,360
Speaker 1: impriv just a good game of of creating through comedic magic.

894
00:52:08,560 --> 00:52:12,960
Speaker 1: You got it. I believe in you. We'll start simple this,

895
00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:17,440
Speaker 1: We'll make this nice and easy. Chloe Kardashian has been

896
00:52:17,560 --> 00:52:20,799
Speaker 1: cheated on now for a record fifty nine times by

897
00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:24,680
Speaker 1: Tristan Thompson. Fifty nine. I don't know if that number

898
00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:27,520
Speaker 1: is real, but that's what I'm gonna tell people. Fifty

899
00:52:27,640 --> 00:52:31,920
Speaker 1: nine times he's dogged her out by women publicly. What

900
00:52:32,239 --> 00:52:36,960
Speaker 1: ju ju might you suggest that old Chloe Kardashian does

901
00:52:37,200 --> 00:52:40,680
Speaker 1: to help alleviate this cheating problem that she's dealing with.

902
00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:45,239
Speaker 1: She's gotta do some type of junior that makes her

903
00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:52,000
Speaker 1: gay because because there's not no way that she's gonna

904
00:52:52,040 --> 00:52:56,040
Speaker 1: stop getting cheated on her line of like, not just

905
00:52:56,200 --> 00:52:59,279
Speaker 1: women in Jim, but Chloe specifically in her line of like.

906
00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:01,400
Speaker 1: These are the end that I want to date. All right,

907
00:53:01,520 --> 00:53:03,399
Speaker 1: those the men you want to date. Well understand these

908
00:53:03,400 --> 00:53:07,360
Speaker 1: the circumstances to come with it. So you gotta but

909
00:53:07,600 --> 00:53:12,440
Speaker 1: rub some fucking female raccoon hair on your on your

910
00:53:12,520 --> 00:53:21,759
Speaker 1: nipples become gay. Okay. So she's she's clearly attracted to

911
00:53:21,920 --> 00:53:24,800
Speaker 1: an she has an unhealthy relationship with men in that

912
00:53:25,000 --> 00:53:28,040
Speaker 1: she's attracted to scumbag dudes who are naturally going to

913
00:53:28,160 --> 00:53:31,000
Speaker 1: cheat on her. And so your best suggestion is the

914
00:53:31,080 --> 00:53:34,839
Speaker 1: rubbed female raccoon hair on herself so that she made

915
00:53:34,920 --> 00:53:38,399
Speaker 1: nipples on her nipples, excuse me, so that she may

916
00:53:38,520 --> 00:53:41,800
Speaker 1: free herself of her attraction to these scumbags and potentially

917
00:53:41,880 --> 00:53:45,600
Speaker 1: find a nice lady to uh to build a life. Yes,

918
00:53:45,800 --> 00:53:50,800
Speaker 1: all right, it's a good answer. Good answer, sir, service stands.

919
00:53:51,520 --> 00:53:57,960
Speaker 1: Good answer. Uh. Okay, here's another one. Nicki Minaj, Old

920
00:53:58,160 --> 00:54:02,799
Speaker 1: Nicki Minaj has now had alleged pedophile for a brother

921
00:54:03,200 --> 00:54:06,439
Speaker 1: and then an alleged pedophile for a husband. What would

922
00:54:06,480 --> 00:54:11,759
Speaker 1: you suggest form Nicki Minaj to help alleviate the bad

923
00:54:11,840 --> 00:54:15,880
Speaker 1: omens coming into her life. I don't know, keep them

924
00:54:15,920 --> 00:54:19,320
Speaker 1: niggas away from Candy. I don't know, man, I don't know.

925
00:54:19,480 --> 00:54:22,120
Speaker 1: That's a hard one, bro, I don't know. I don't

926
00:54:22,160 --> 00:54:25,120
Speaker 1: like speaking on family business because like it's not it's

927
00:54:25,160 --> 00:54:28,240
Speaker 1: not it's not her fault. Like she's just like around

928
00:54:28,360 --> 00:54:31,680
Speaker 1: these people and it's not it's not it's not her fault.

929
00:54:31,760 --> 00:54:37,200
Speaker 1: But you know that's I I don't I don't know

930
00:54:37,280 --> 00:54:40,160
Speaker 1: what to say. I don't know. Stop giving them Keep

931
00:54:40,200 --> 00:54:43,560
Speaker 1: them niggers away from lollipops. I heard candy. Maybe she

932
00:54:43,719 --> 00:54:47,520
Speaker 1: rubs two lollipops together and uh and dips them into

933
00:54:47,520 --> 00:54:51,400
Speaker 1: some rain water, and maybe that'll that'll help heal the

934
00:54:51,560 --> 00:54:54,759
Speaker 1: sugar from from her life and theirs. I don't know.

935
00:54:55,040 --> 00:54:59,239
Speaker 1: That's that's crazy. Okay, let's do one that's a little, uh,

936
00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:02,719
Speaker 1: little sillier. Maybe this will take some of the sting

937
00:55:02,840 --> 00:55:04,879
Speaker 1: off of this. This is a personal favorite of mine.

938
00:55:05,000 --> 00:55:11,000
Speaker 1: Terrence j Uh was once caught driving away from a

939
00:55:11,080 --> 00:55:14,719
Speaker 1: hidden run with his side piece in his car. He

940
00:55:14,800 --> 00:55:17,520
Speaker 1: got an accident. He was driving with his side piece

941
00:55:17,840 --> 00:55:21,200
Speaker 1: side piece in the car. What Juju would you suggest

942
00:55:21,760 --> 00:55:24,640
Speaker 1: for old Terence J. To help alleviate some of the

943
00:55:24,760 --> 00:55:28,560
Speaker 1: mistakes that transpired. Terence J. You don't even need juju

944
00:55:28,680 --> 00:55:33,640
Speaker 1: for this. All you gotta do is say that was

945
00:55:33,719 --> 00:55:39,080
Speaker 1: Langston Current. That wouldn't the world will believe you, big head.

946
00:55:40,400 --> 00:55:43,759
Speaker 1: It's gotta be him. You don't even need for that. There,

947
00:55:43,800 --> 00:55:48,520
Speaker 1: you just big head lights skin buff. If you look

948
00:55:48,560 --> 00:55:55,600
Speaker 1: at him from the right angle, get somebody else in trouble, bro,

949
00:55:58,040 --> 00:56:00,839
Speaker 1: that's a good answer. Okay, this is the final one,

950
00:56:00,960 --> 00:56:03,120
Speaker 1: and you gotta use juju for this one. I don't

951
00:56:03,120 --> 00:56:06,960
Speaker 1: think it's gonna be blaming me for for these problems. Okay,

952
00:56:07,040 --> 00:56:10,440
Speaker 1: this is my favorite one. Whatever happened to Bust the

953
00:56:10,560 --> 00:56:20,120
Speaker 1: Rhymes neck? What juju? Bro? Stop juju? What do you

954
00:56:20,280 --> 00:56:26,279
Speaker 1: suggest to make Buster Rhymes neck go back to normal? Bro?

955
00:56:27,040 --> 00:56:31,400
Speaker 1: Come on, man, come on man. Bust is a good dude.

956
00:56:32,560 --> 00:56:39,799
Speaker 1: Terrible neck, the great spirit neck? Is that the Redwood?

957
00:56:40,120 --> 00:56:44,600
Speaker 1: But damn it. Sometimes I hate comedy because I don't know.

958
00:56:44,760 --> 00:56:46,600
Speaker 1: Eventually I'm gonna run into him. He's like, Yo, what

959
00:56:46,760 --> 00:56:48,560
Speaker 1: was on this? She was popping him on my neck?

960
00:56:49,280 --> 00:56:56,040
Speaker 1: You wouldn't need me, It wasn't me. That's pretty god.

961
00:56:56,120 --> 00:57:01,520
Speaker 1: I love your neck. I think care for buster. The

962
00:57:01,719 --> 00:57:08,920
Speaker 1: rhymes neck. Yeah, I guess you gotta. Okay, So the

963
00:57:09,040 --> 00:57:11,000
Speaker 1: only way this is gonna work is on some freaky

964
00:57:11,040 --> 00:57:14,560
Speaker 1: Friday ship, like on some like you know, you gotta transferred.

965
00:57:14,640 --> 00:57:17,360
Speaker 1: You got transferred bodies, but you ain't transfer their whole body,

966
00:57:17,480 --> 00:57:23,560
Speaker 1: transferred their neck and whoever neck bust. You know you

967
00:57:23,640 --> 00:57:25,360
Speaker 1: got a lot of he got a lot of he

968
00:57:25,440 --> 00:57:26,520
Speaker 1: got a lot of he got a lot of like

969
00:57:26,640 --> 00:57:29,360
Speaker 1: the platinum and golden. You know, a lot of jewelry.

970
00:57:29,760 --> 00:57:31,920
Speaker 1: So you you you say that, you say the neck

971
00:57:32,040 --> 00:57:36,040
Speaker 1: prayer in their the jewelry whatever, whatever Bible quote work

972
00:57:36,120 --> 00:57:38,240
Speaker 1: for that. What was y'all saying earlier? It was uh

973
00:57:38,920 --> 00:57:41,720
Speaker 1: one justin was saying, what's that Bible quote? So the

974
00:57:42,080 --> 00:57:44,640
Speaker 1: uh that that you don't want to be lukewarm. You

975
00:57:45,000 --> 00:57:47,160
Speaker 1: gotta be you want to be hot or cold when

976
00:57:47,240 --> 00:57:50,520
Speaker 1: it comes to God, but you can't be look warm. Okay,

977
00:57:50,760 --> 00:57:52,920
Speaker 1: So you don't want to be thick neck when it

978
00:57:53,000 --> 00:57:56,760
Speaker 1: comes to God. You gotta be Just do it like that.

979
00:57:56,920 --> 00:57:58,640
Speaker 1: You let me thick neck, would it come to God?

980
00:57:58,720 --> 00:58:04,040
Speaker 1: You gotta be the then or in the middle or

981
00:58:04,240 --> 00:58:07,840
Speaker 1: in the middle, and then say that into a ring

982
00:58:08,160 --> 00:58:11,080
Speaker 1: and then you you you touched you just touch a

983
00:58:11,120 --> 00:58:14,120
Speaker 1: lot of things. Neck. I want to say the women,

984
00:58:14,120 --> 00:58:16,040
Speaker 1: because it would be weird if you start touching dudes.

985
00:58:16,160 --> 00:58:19,000
Speaker 1: Next that you want to have you got to touch

986
00:58:19,040 --> 00:58:24,400
Speaker 1: a man's You gotta run around touching man's necks and

987
00:58:24,480 --> 00:58:28,040
Speaker 1: then maybe it'll transfer to you. Yo. All right, as

988
00:58:28,080 --> 00:58:32,800
Speaker 1: long as you're choking them there it is all right.

989
00:58:33,200 --> 00:58:35,720
Speaker 1: We did it. This is this is a great time. Kevin.

990
00:58:35,800 --> 00:58:38,600
Speaker 1: Could you tell the people at home where they could

991
00:58:38,640 --> 00:58:42,560
Speaker 1: find you? What? What ship you got going on? I

992
00:58:43,080 --> 00:58:49,720
Speaker 1: am currently you can find me every Sunday night on showtime.

993
00:58:49,840 --> 00:58:54,240
Speaker 1: It's ten thirty Eastern nine thirty Central time. I don't

994
00:58:54,240 --> 00:58:55,800
Speaker 1: know what time that is l A, but you can

995
00:58:55,840 --> 00:59:01,520
Speaker 1: figure outtabyn l A show Tim flat Bush Misdemeanor is

996
00:59:01,800 --> 00:59:05,800
Speaker 1: every Sunday for the next like and we did four,

997
00:59:05,960 --> 00:59:08,920
Speaker 1: so the next about seven weeks. Yeah, that beautiful and

998
00:59:09,040 --> 00:59:13,240
Speaker 1: it's a it's a gorgeous show. Oh finished finished? Oh no, yeah,

999
00:59:13,280 --> 00:59:17,920
Speaker 1: And then it's Kevin I so propanol on Instagram, I

1000
00:59:18,160 --> 00:59:22,760
Speaker 1: so propanol, like the alcohol. And then on Twitter it's

1001
00:59:22,960 --> 00:59:27,640
Speaker 1: I'm not available because yeah, what do you think, Like,

1002
00:59:27,720 --> 00:59:29,280
Speaker 1: do you think I should get back on Twitter. I

1003
00:59:29,840 --> 00:59:32,800
Speaker 1: like your Twitter. You tweeted once a year, and uh

1004
00:59:34,000 --> 00:59:37,280
Speaker 1: it was mostly you critiquing yourself for being on it.

1005
00:59:37,680 --> 00:59:40,480
Speaker 1: You truly seem dedicated to the art form. So yeah,

1006
00:59:40,640 --> 00:59:45,560
Speaker 1: get back on Twitter. It seems worth it now. Kevin's hysterical.

1007
00:59:45,720 --> 00:59:48,840
Speaker 1: I think he's great, and please watch flat Bush Misdemeanors.

1008
00:59:48,960 --> 00:59:52,280
Speaker 1: It's great, And you can follow me at Langston Kerman

1009
00:59:52,600 --> 00:59:54,800
Speaker 1: And as always, if you want to send us drops,

1010
00:59:54,840 --> 00:59:56,720
Speaker 1: if you want to send us notes, if you want

1011
00:59:56,760 --> 00:59:59,520
Speaker 1: to send us your own theories, please send them to

1012
00:59:59,720 --> 01:00:04,240
Speaker 1: my Mama pod at gmail dot com. Otherwise, wait by bit,

1013
01:00:04,880 --> 01:00:08,120
Speaker 1: wait no, wait, not by bitch. Last day, Langston did

1014
01:00:08,200 --> 01:00:11,640
Speaker 1: a fucking phenomenal job on Pause with Sam J. I'm

1015
01:00:11,680 --> 01:00:13,600
Speaker 1: sure he's already talked about in the pot, but I

1016
01:00:13,640 --> 01:00:15,560
Speaker 1: ain't talk about it, so now I'm talking about it.

1017
01:00:15,600 --> 01:00:18,680
Speaker 1: But he did a phenomenal job head right in shot,

1018
01:00:18,960 --> 01:00:22,000
Speaker 1: like basically, you know, he's doing everything. I ain't gonnam

1019
01:00:22,040 --> 01:00:24,080
Speaker 1: out that like that, but he did a great job

1020
01:00:24,160 --> 01:00:26,320
Speaker 1: with that show. You guys check it out and support

1021
01:00:26,760 --> 01:00:29,880
Speaker 1: and you know he coming now with the motherfucking bust

1022
01:00:29,960 --> 01:00:34,920
Speaker 1: down soon. So stay tuned, Stay tuned, Stay tuned. Nobody's

1023
01:00:34,920 --> 01:00:37,840
Speaker 1: ever promoted me this much and it's beautiful. Thank you, Kevin,

1024
01:00:38,280 --> 01:00:58,000
Speaker 1: and uh yeah, okay now officially bye bitch, racist money,

1025
01:01:00,040 --> 01:01:04,440
Speaker 1: turkey stuff and I can't tell me nothing my lo