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Speaker 1: up for yourself however that looks, even if it's not

442
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Speaker 1: in the way.

443
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Speaker 4: That you want it to be.

444
00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:30,600
Speaker 1: Just continuing to just show up is the best thing

445
00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:33,080
Speaker 1: that you can do. I think, like it just builds

446
00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:36,520
Speaker 1: so much mental fortitude and it just it proves to you,

447
00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:40,080
Speaker 1: to you and yourself that like, regardless of how you feel,

448
00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:41,720
Speaker 1: you can, you just got to get up.

449
00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:42,640
Speaker 4: You just got to do it.

450
00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:46,680
Speaker 1: And it sounds tough and it sounds hard, but sitting

451
00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:49,520
Speaker 1: in the bed or feeling bad for yourself, like you're

452
00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:52,040
Speaker 1: not gonna thank yourself for that once you get to where.

453
00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:53,960
Speaker 4: You're where you're going, or where you're at or where

454
00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:54,479
Speaker 4: you end up.

455
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Speaker 1: And on the days that I didn't want to lift,

456
00:22:58,560 --> 00:22:59,879
Speaker 1: you know, ways I didn't want to go to p

457
00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:02,840
Speaker 1: I'm like, I have to. I have to do it

458
00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:07,000
Speaker 1: because literally, like what you're going through is preparing you

459
00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:09,240
Speaker 1: for where you're meant to be. And if you don't

460
00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:15,360
Speaker 1: take those moments like as honestly a privilege. Then you'll

461
00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:17,680
Speaker 1: never see the beauty in what you had to go through.

462
00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:22,360
Speaker 1: So for me not winning any races, not believing in myself,

463
00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:24,760
Speaker 1: having a whole bunch of doubt, not wanting to show up,

464
00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:27,240
Speaker 1: it didn't mean anything when I crossed that line and

465
00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:30,440
Speaker 1: I won the Olympic. So it's just about like doing

466
00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:33,720
Speaker 1: it when you don't want to, because your self is

467
00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:38,840
Speaker 1: gonna think yourself for showing up when you didn't want to.

468
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Speaker 2: In the end, I am just looking at you and

469
00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:44,320
Speaker 2: I'm like, so, I'm I'm thirty seven, just so we're

470
00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:46,240
Speaker 2: all clear, and I am just looking at you and

471
00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:48,960
Speaker 2: I'm like, Wow, if I had this together at twenty five,

472
00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:53,160
Speaker 2: I don't even know where I would be right now.

473
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Speaker 2: With that said, the second thing I want to double

474
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Speaker 2: click on is you make it almost sound easy in

475
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Speaker 2: that you have put in so many reps already, You

476
00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:06,080
Speaker 2: have been tested already, and you learned through the adversity

477
00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:08,919
Speaker 2: that you faced that when you face a hurdle, no

478
00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:11,479
Speaker 2: pun intended, you then have the opportunity to come out

479
00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:13,399
Speaker 2: on the other side and take what you've learned to

480
00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:18,359
Speaker 2: become better, to continue to grow in a practical sense

481
00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:22,760
Speaker 2: when you reflect on maybe some of the things that

482
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Speaker 2: you did to help you get your mind right, what

483
00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:27,720
Speaker 2: comes to mind. Were you journaling, were you reading? Were

484
00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:30,800
Speaker 2: you outsourcing and talking to people that you care about

485
00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:33,760
Speaker 2: about trying to pull yourself out of these difficult moments?

486
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Speaker 3: What was in your toolbox? Messiah?

487
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think the main things that I would say

488
00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:41,560
Speaker 1: was in my toolbox was one hundred percent journaling. Just

489
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Speaker 1: like journaling whatever is like, oh my mind on my heart,

490
00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:47,679
Speaker 1: like whatever thoughts, just put them on the paper, release it,

491
00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:53,640
Speaker 1: let it go. And then also I said earlier, just manifesting,

492
00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:56,960
Speaker 1: just putting out there what you want, what you see

493
00:24:56,960 --> 00:24:59,159
Speaker 1: yourself doing, even if it sounds outland is or it

494
00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:04,200
Speaker 1: sounds crazy. I'm happy, I'm great, I'm beautiful, I'm blessed.

495
00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:06,879
Speaker 1: Like just saying things that will make you feel better

496
00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:10,639
Speaker 1: is like so powerful. It's just so much power in

497
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Speaker 1: the tongue. And honestly, like don't I don't say anything

498
00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:17,280
Speaker 1: negative out my mouth Like that sounds crazy, but like

499
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Speaker 1: when it comes to myself, I don't ever affirm anything

500
00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:23,200
Speaker 1: about myself that's negative. Like if I don't feel like practicing,

501
00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:25,560
Speaker 1: like I'm not gonna put light onto that it's just

502
00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:27,719
Speaker 1: gonna be like, I'm not gonna say anything because it's

503
00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:30,320
Speaker 1: gonna make the practice ten times harder. So you know,

504
00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:32,560
Speaker 1: these are just like keys that of course I use

505
00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:35,920
Speaker 1: in my sport right now, but I also use them

506
00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:38,800
Speaker 1: in life in general, just how I show up. So

507
00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:42,000
Speaker 1: I think that people underestimate what comes out of their mouth,

508
00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:44,800
Speaker 1: and everything that I've spoken over my life has pretty

509
00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:49,040
Speaker 1: much come to fruition, and it literally happening over a

510
00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:52,080
Speaker 1: year of me just like practicing these things. So you know,

511
00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:55,680
Speaker 1: just start like speaking positive, just speaking, start speaking life

512
00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:58,280
Speaker 1: over yourself, over your situation, even if it's not where

513
00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:01,080
Speaker 1: you want to be, Like literally be the like it

514
00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:03,399
Speaker 1: sounds crazy, but be delusional in a positive light. And

515
00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:05,720
Speaker 1: I think that for me that has been the biggest

516
00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:07,680
Speaker 1: thing that I would say is in my two box,

517
00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:12,639
Speaker 1: it's just writing down my goals, seeing my goals, speaking, manifesting, journaling,

518
00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:16,719
Speaker 1: and just like being a positive person, like you can

519
00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:20,960
Speaker 1: always look in any situation and flip it to a positive.

520
00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:22,520
Speaker 4: It's just all about perspective.

521
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Speaker 1: And I think that that's what's been able to like

522
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Speaker 1: separate me from most It's just like the perspective that

523
00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:30,159
Speaker 1: I take on to life. Like, I mean, I'm not

524
00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:32,439
Speaker 1: about to start ranting, but I did not do what

525
00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:34,720
Speaker 1: I wanted to do at the World Championships. I ended

526
00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:37,200
Speaker 1: up coming fourth place, missing out on the medal after

527
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Speaker 1: being the American record holder, after running twelve to one

528
00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:41,800
Speaker 1: twice this year, Like everyone had me to win. But

529
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Speaker 1: I know that that race is gonna be the reason

530
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Speaker 1: why I do what I do in the future. It's

531
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Speaker 1: not a failure. It's just a lesson that's setting me

532
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Speaker 1: up for the biggest blessings.

533
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Speaker 4: How did that feel coming forth?

534
00:26:56,680 --> 00:27:02,600
Speaker 3: Yeah? Oof, it was what happened, talked me through that.

535
00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:05,520
Speaker 1: For me, I mean, I think I've been through enough

536
00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:09,880
Speaker 1: to now know how to like navigate the hardships. So yeah,

537
00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:13,240
Speaker 1: I mean, honestly, like honestly, speaking to being super transparent,

538
00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:17,080
Speaker 1: I felt actually very humiliated. I felt very embarrassed because

539
00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:19,240
Speaker 1: everyone had me to win. I mean, I ran twelve

540
00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:23,479
Speaker 1: to one and I ran twelve four that day, and

541
00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:27,000
Speaker 1: I had an amazing season and I didn't show up

542
00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:28,280
Speaker 1: when it mattered the most.

543
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Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, I felt very embarrassed.

544
00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:33,600
Speaker 1: But you know, for me, I didn't really beat myself

545
00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:35,840
Speaker 1: up too much about it because I didn't have any

546
00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:38,240
Speaker 1: regrets about it because I put so much work in.

547
00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:41,920
Speaker 1: I do what I need to do, and unfortunately it

548
00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:44,719
Speaker 1: didn't go in the way that I, of course envision.

549
00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:48,280
Speaker 1: But it's not the end, you know, and it's just

550
00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:51,160
Speaker 1: a setup for what's to come.

551
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Speaker 4: And that's always my mindset. That's why I'm for me personally.

552
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Speaker 1: I'll never feel because it's always a lesson to turn

553
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Speaker 1: me into what the world will see. Yeah, And like

554
00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:07,080
Speaker 1: I said, I had to humbly swallow my pride. I

555
00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:10,160
Speaker 1: had to take a step back and understand who I am.

556
00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:12,119
Speaker 1: I had to redirect my focus. I knew I had

557
00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:15,880
Speaker 1: another race in Aflos, which was three weeks ago, and

558
00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:20,000
Speaker 1: I ended up directing my focus to that, taking some

559
00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:24,840
Speaker 1: time to myself, you know, regrouit, refocus, reset, and I

560
00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:28,040
Speaker 1: attacked that race and I ended my season in a

561
00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:30,360
Speaker 1: way that I was happy with. So yeah, I mean,

562
00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:34,920
Speaker 1: it's life, it's sports. And once again, like of course

563
00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:39,200
Speaker 1: I'm talking about like sports and marathon talk, but all

564
00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:41,280
Speaker 1: of these things that I'm saying, like I would just

565
00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:44,840
Speaker 1: take to life like it's just how you show up,

566
00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:46,880
Speaker 1: it's how you think of it. It's just the perspective

567
00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:49,960
Speaker 1: that you have and Yeah, you could be sad, give

568
00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:53,200
Speaker 1: yourself a couple of days, but life continues to move

569
00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:56,960
Speaker 1: like nothing will stop just because you do. So that's

570
00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:58,640
Speaker 1: the you know, that's the way that I look at it,

571
00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:01,000
Speaker 1: and it's just it is what it is.

572
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Speaker 3: It is what it is.

573
00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:07,480
Speaker 2: It's so impressive to hear firstly about this mindset, but

574
00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:10,280
Speaker 2: then the sentence I don't fail.

575
00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:12,959
Speaker 3: I don't fail.

576
00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:18,360
Speaker 2: That is not a sentence that is often a part

577
00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:24,080
Speaker 2: of many people's vocabulary. It's such a beautiful way to

578
00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:27,760
Speaker 2: frame what you go through in your life, whether you

579
00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:31,120
Speaker 2: get the outcome that you want or you don't.

580
00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:32,560
Speaker 3: I also think.

581
00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:35,760
Speaker 2: That it's so valuable the way that you talk through

582
00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:38,760
Speaker 2: the thought process of it's not that I don't have

583
00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:42,320
Speaker 2: a single negative thought, but then I get to make

584
00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:45,640
Speaker 2: the conscious choice of what happens with that negative thought.

585
00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:49,680
Speaker 2: I don't give in to that negative thought. And that's

586
00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:54,280
Speaker 2: again it's a huge challenge to get to that place. Now,

587
00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:57,280
Speaker 2: you said that journaling is a regular part of your routine.

588
00:29:57,400 --> 00:29:59,120
Speaker 2: Can you like give us a slice of what that

589
00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:02,000
Speaker 2: looks like for you? What does your journaling practice look like?

590
00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:05,160
Speaker 1: So I have two journals, ones like a guided like

591
00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:07,560
Speaker 1: five minute journal, and then the other one's just like

592
00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:12,560
Speaker 1: literally a blank page, and the five minute one is

593
00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:15,520
Speaker 1: just like, you know, what are your daily affirmations, like

594
00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:16,480
Speaker 1: what are you grateful for?

595
00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:18,040
Speaker 4: What things are you looking for?

596
00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:22,960
Speaker 1: And yeah, like you know, just basic gratitude type of things.

597
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:25,000
Speaker 4: And then on the other journal.

598
00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:26,719
Speaker 1: Like I said, it's really just about like what I

599
00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:29,560
Speaker 1: feel in that moment, at that time, at that day.

600
00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:32,640
Speaker 1: It could be like go out there and kill it,

601
00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:36,480
Speaker 1: lock in, zone out, be you like super straightforward, or

602
00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:39,000
Speaker 1: it could be just like whatever is literally on my

603
00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:39,720
Speaker 1: heart and mind.

604
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Speaker 4: So yeah, that's the main things.

605
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Speaker 3: How does it feel to finally be in your off season?

606
00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:46,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, it feels good.

607
00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:49,200
Speaker 1: I need to stay on social media because I'm seeing

608
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Speaker 1: like other people starting to train and I'm like, I'm

609
00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:55,720
Speaker 1: ready to start, Like I'm like, so I'm definitely trying

610
00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:59,000
Speaker 1: to like limit my social media intake and seeing what

611
00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:01,080
Speaker 1: other people are doing, just because I did just finish

612
00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:04,320
Speaker 1: my season three weeks ago and I was pretty much

613
00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:07,360
Speaker 1: running for almost a year straight, so I know I

614
00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:09,800
Speaker 1: need to get myself some time off just because the

615
00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:12,760
Speaker 1: season this year is just as long as it was

616
00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:15,120
Speaker 1: from last season. I'm gonna be running again to a September,

617
00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:18,800
Speaker 1: so I'm like, I could take some time to just breathe,

618
00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:21,600
Speaker 1: and I think for me that's the biggest thing that

619
00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:24,560
Speaker 1: will help towards my longevity in the sport. I think

620
00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:28,240
Speaker 1: that like we don't always give ourselves enough time, and

621
00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:31,840
Speaker 1: a lot of times throughout this year and this season,

622
00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:34,200
Speaker 1: coming back as the Olympic champion, I felt like I

623
00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:37,240
Speaker 1: had so much to prove to the world, to everybody else,

624
00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:40,240
Speaker 1: to the blogs, to the fans, and I wasn't really

625
00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:41,840
Speaker 1: giving myself enough time.

626
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Speaker 4: And although I did have the mindset.

627
00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:47,280
Speaker 1: That I have to show up, keep pushing, keep fighting,

628
00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:50,959
Speaker 1: like you shouldn't have to want to like pull yourself

629
00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:53,080
Speaker 1: every single day to do something that you love.

630
00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:56,040
Speaker 4: So for me, I mean, yeah, I pulled through and

631
00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:56,880
Speaker 4: I ran a.

632
00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:58,440
Speaker 1: Lot of great times, but a lot of times when

633
00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:00,280
Speaker 1: I stepped to the line, it was it was kind

634
00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:02,920
Speaker 1: of hard, just because I didn't give myself enough time

635
00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:06,920
Speaker 1: last year after the Olympics to mentally just detached and

636
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:10,000
Speaker 1: mentally reset. So this year I'm definitely just trying to

637
00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:14,840
Speaker 1: like actually just be be and not think about track

638
00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:17,920
Speaker 1: and you know, just allow what to happen when it

639
00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:19,960
Speaker 1: comes back around, because I mean it's a part of

640
00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:22,160
Speaker 1: what I do, but it's not the only thing that

641
00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:24,520
Speaker 1: I do, so it's good to just take some time.

642
00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:43,959
Speaker 2: I want to talk about recovery in just a second,

643
00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:47,080
Speaker 2: but before we do, you brought up social media. For

644
00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:50,000
Speaker 2: those of you that aren't following Massai on the socials,

645
00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:53,160
Speaker 2: she's got quite the big TikTok following, quite the big

646
00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:56,240
Speaker 2: Instagram following. I'm talking like over like one point four

647
00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:57,320
Speaker 2: million combined.

648
00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:01,960
Speaker 3: That sounds like a lot of pressure, question Mark.

649
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:03,479
Speaker 2: I mean, I bring this back to what you were

650
00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:05,600
Speaker 2: saying about what happened at Worlds and you were like,

651
00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:09,360
Speaker 2: I was embarrassed. Is a part of that the size

652
00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:13,320
Speaker 2: of your following and how have you navigated that rise

653
00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:15,080
Speaker 2: of people keeping up with you?

654
00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:16,080
Speaker 3: How does that make you feel?

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Speaker 1: I think the people keeping up with me, I think

656
00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:20,760
Speaker 1: it's kind of natural, just because I've always like just

657
00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:23,880
Speaker 1: it's been authentic for me to just post my life,

658
00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:27,600
Speaker 1: post what I'm doing, just be like just being me honestly,

659
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Speaker 1: So it hasn't really felt like any pressure. I feel

660
00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:32,560
Speaker 1: like the pressure has kind of come now from me

661
00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:35,800
Speaker 1: being the Olympic champion. So you know, the people within

662
00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:38,520
Speaker 1: the track world, the fans, like people who didn't know

663
00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:40,880
Speaker 1: about me before the Olympics that now know about me

664
00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:45,560
Speaker 1: expect something amazing every single time I compete. So I mean,

665
00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:47,960
Speaker 1: once again, it's all about the mindset, and I just

666
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:52,000
Speaker 1: look at it as a privilege, and there's privilege for

667
00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:56,040
Speaker 1: you to have pressure. You know, like people expect something

668
00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:58,400
Speaker 1: of me. It's something that people want to see. People

669
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Speaker 1: know that I'm capable of these great things. So you know,

670
00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:03,360
Speaker 1: I just shipped my mindset in that sense. But I

671
00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:06,600
Speaker 1: don't think the embarrassment came from social media. I think

672
00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:09,839
Speaker 1: this my social media fans were actually like no one

673
00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:12,880
Speaker 1: really said anything like that was like outland ish, Like

674
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Speaker 1: I didn't see any crazy comments. I think the embarrassing

675
00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:20,320
Speaker 1: morisel came from myself and how I viewed myself and

676
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Speaker 1: what I expected of myself.

677
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Speaker 4: And the people in my circle.

678
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Speaker 1: You know, like I had big goals, I had big plans,

679
00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:28,880
Speaker 1: and you know, it just didn't happen the way that

680
00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:31,960
Speaker 1: me and my team expected. But you know, once again,

681
00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:35,239
Speaker 1: it is what it is. And you know, people was asking.

682
00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:36,080
Speaker 4: Like are you okay? Are you fine?

683
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Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, I'm still living, I'm still here. I'm

684
00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:40,760
Speaker 1: so healthy. I'm blessed. You know, I've taken more losses

685
00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:43,680
Speaker 1: than I've ever won, So I'm like, I've been here before,

686
00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:45,959
Speaker 1: and y'all know what happens when I've been down there

687
00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:49,080
Speaker 1: and what I do and to get to where I'm going,

688
00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:50,560
Speaker 1: So you know, it's all right.

689
00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:52,920
Speaker 4: It's just part of the story.

690
00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:56,120
Speaker 2: Part of the story, recovery, as I said that I

691
00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:59,520
Speaker 2: wanted to come back to. It also involves a little

692
00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:03,000
Speaker 2: bit of Celi And I know that you said that

693
00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:07,040
Speaker 2: you're not always good at celebrating yourself when we're aiming

694
00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:11,319
Speaker 2: for our next big goal. What is something that you're

695
00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:14,000
Speaker 2: looking forward to doing in this off season part of

696
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:17,000
Speaker 2: that recovery and maybe a little bit part of that celebration.

697
00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:23,560
Speaker 1: Laying on the beach, phone on, do not disturb in

698
00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:27,080
Speaker 1: literally just detaching. So I think that that's the main

699
00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:28,480
Speaker 1: thing I'm looking forward to.

700
00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:31,440
Speaker 2: I'm not blowing up besides Spot, but she's going on

701
00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:33,960
Speaker 2: vacation next weekend, and I think it's getting a little

702
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:36,120
Speaker 2: cold here, so this will be I'm inspired.

703
00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:37,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's time to go.

704
00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:38,560
Speaker 3: It's time to go.

705
00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:40,799
Speaker 4: Takes time to get out of New York.

706
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Speaker 2: I appreciate the sentiments that you are sharing on how

707
00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:49,319
Speaker 2: you only vocalize to yourself these positive thoughts. But what

708
00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:52,359
Speaker 2: other advice do you have for these women as they

709
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:54,480
Speaker 2: toe the line on Sunday going to be out there

710
00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:57,440
Speaker 2: for quite some time. To stay positive, remembering that every

711
00:35:57,520 --> 00:35:59,480
Speaker 2: single second is an opportunity to start over.

712
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:02,440
Speaker 1: Say, I'll give you, guys, everything that's in my toolbox,

713
00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:05,480
Speaker 1: Like you put the work in, You've done everything that

714
00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:08,960
Speaker 1: you've needed to do to be here now. So whatever

715
00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:10,719
Speaker 1: is meant to happen is gonna happen. And I think

716
00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:13,239
Speaker 1: that you just have to be okay and accept that

717
00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:18,640
Speaker 1: in your mind and detach all the expectations of what

718
00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:21,200
Speaker 1: anyone believes that you should do or even you're putting

719
00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:24,239
Speaker 1: on yourself. So just be just just be happy, just

720
00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:27,080
Speaker 1: be blessed that you're able to run. You know, I

721
00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:29,360
Speaker 1: think we take little things like that for granted, like

722
00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:32,200
Speaker 1: just being able to run, walk, get up, like to

723
00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:34,279
Speaker 1: do things on our own. You know, we just are

724
00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:37,000
Speaker 1: so like on the go, we don't even sometimes take

725
00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:40,840
Speaker 1: time to be thankful for the tiny things that allow

726
00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:43,160
Speaker 1: us to get from point A to point B. Running

727
00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:48,319
Speaker 1: a marathon is insane in general, Like I don't think

728
00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:52,080
Speaker 1: I could ever do it, So just be you whatever

729
00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:54,719
Speaker 1: is meant to happen. Just be happy for yourself, be

730
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:57,600
Speaker 1: happy that you're here, happy that you're alive, and y'all

731
00:36:57,600 --> 00:36:58,359
Speaker 1: are gonna kill it.

732
00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:00,200
Speaker 4: I wish I could be out there.

733
00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:04,040
Speaker 2: Remember that you are part of a very small, elite

734
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Speaker 2: group of humans that choose to torture yourself this way.

735
00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:11,879
Speaker 2: So again, to Massiz's point, this is an opportunity, It's

736
00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:14,279
Speaker 2: a blessing and the chance to show up at all

737
00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:15,200
Speaker 2: at that starting line.

738
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Speaker 3: It's such a.

739
00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:19,400
Speaker 4: Gift accomplishment within it. So so true.

740
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Speaker 2: Now we did touch on your great amount of social

741
00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:25,759
Speaker 2: media followers. Those people they come to your page, they

742
00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:32,160
Speaker 2: see this stunning woman who Olympic champion, American record holder.

743
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:34,320
Speaker 2: But when you look in the mirror, Massia, what is

744
00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:36,279
Speaker 2: it that you see looking back at you?

745
00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:39,360
Speaker 4: Oh that's a key question. Well thanks girl.

746
00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:44,600
Speaker 1: I think for me personally, when I look at myself

747
00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:48,000
Speaker 1: in the mirror, I just see someone with still so

748
00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:53,560
Speaker 1: much potential, someone that's still so eager to just get better,

749
00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:56,160
Speaker 1: to learn new things, not even just on the track.

750
00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:59,239
Speaker 1: Just I'm young, I'm twenty five. I'm like, I'm trying

751
00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:00,000
Speaker 1: to get a little girl.

752
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:02,799
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I feel like I really blew up your

753
00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:04,319
Speaker 2: spot of the here.

754
00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:07,000
Speaker 4: But yeah, no, you're all good.

755
00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:09,800
Speaker 1: But I'm like, you know, I'm still like so young

756
00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:12,960
Speaker 1: in the adult life, and it's still just so much

757
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:17,120
Speaker 1: to learn. So you know, any person, any place, any

758
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:21,680
Speaker 1: experience that I have, I just take so much from everybody.

759
00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:26,040
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter who I'm talking to, Like, I learned

760
00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:29,439
Speaker 1: from everybody, and I think for me, I'm just still

761
00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:33,120
Speaker 1: so eager and just so blessed and just so adamant

762
00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:36,200
Speaker 1: to continue to learn who I am, continue to you know,

763
00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:38,680
Speaker 1: do my thing as a professional, but just to continue

764
00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:42,120
Speaker 1: to grow as being an inspiration to so many and

765
00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:45,280
Speaker 1: to continue giving back and just using my voice as

766
00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:48,719
Speaker 1: a way to just inspire just because I mean, I've

767
00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:52,600
Speaker 1: come from literally not being an Olympic gold medalist, like

768
00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:55,200
Speaker 1: to this day it sounds insane to me, but I've

769
00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:58,480
Speaker 1: been able to create something for myself and of.

770
00:38:58,440 --> 00:38:59,520
Speaker 4: Course with the help of God.

771
00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:02,839
Speaker 1: But just God has given me the strength to use

772
00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:04,759
Speaker 1: my voice to help people and to show people the

773
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:06,640
Speaker 1: way they like, you could create the life that you want.

774
00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:09,360
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter, the age, doesn't matter, the time, Like

775
00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:12,120
Speaker 1: you could start today by just putting yourself first and

776
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:15,440
Speaker 1: speaking positive things over yourself, positive things over your life,

777
00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:18,479
Speaker 1: and you could create something that you wouldn't be able

778
00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:21,040
Speaker 1: to recognize when you look in the mirror. So sometimes

779
00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:24,080
Speaker 1: it took a minute for me to realize, like, wait,

780
00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:26,440
Speaker 1: I am who I am? I had impostually synd on

781
00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:29,879
Speaker 1: for a minute, but now you know it's definitely it's

782
00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:31,640
Speaker 1: set in, And I mean like I know who I

783
00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:36,160
Speaker 1: am now, but yeah, for sure, like just continueing to

784
00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:36,839
Speaker 1: explore me.

785
00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:39,400
Speaker 3: Raise your hand if you want to run through a

786
00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:43,560
Speaker 3: brick wall. I'm so inspired by you. And I also think.

787
00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:47,480
Speaker 2: That when we speak about this positive mindset again, we

788
00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:52,799
Speaker 2: can't run this point home enough. You get to decide

789
00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:56,360
Speaker 2: what it is that you do with your thoughts, whether

790
00:39:56,600 --> 00:40:00,359
Speaker 2: it is on Sunday or bigger than Sunday. You get

791
00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:03,439
Speaker 2: that opportunity each and every time you said you've checked

792
00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:06,440
Speaker 2: off some things that you've wanted to do. What are

793
00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:08,680
Speaker 2: you looking forward to right now? MASSI what else do

794
00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:09,560
Speaker 2: you want to check off?

795
00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:13,399
Speaker 1: I think in the track road of course everyone they

796
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:17,360
Speaker 1: probably know, but for you guys listening now, of course,

797
00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:20,160
Speaker 1: my goal is to break the world record. My best

798
00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:24,359
Speaker 1: is twelve seventeen. The world record is twelve twelve, so

799
00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:30,920
Speaker 1: I'm like five five, five hundreds, blink of and I

800
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Speaker 1: off of the world record. So you know, that's the

801
00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:35,960
Speaker 1: next big goal. And just to continue to dominate, continue

802
00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:39,239
Speaker 1: to win more medals and win the Olympics in LA

803
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Speaker 1: twenty eight.

804
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Speaker 3: No big deal.

805
00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:49,080
Speaker 2: Right now, MASSI, you have an opportunity to offer yourself

806
00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:51,000
Speaker 2: a piece of advice. I'm going to go back to

807
00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:54,919
Speaker 2: that difficult streak of time you had before showing up

808
00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:58,160
Speaker 2: to usas taking home that w getting the meat record

809
00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:02,200
Speaker 2: and then ultimately landing your as an Olympic champion. Knowing

810
00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:05,319
Speaker 2: what you know now, what advice would you give to

811
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:07,360
Speaker 2: yourself during that hurdle moment?

812
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:11,320
Speaker 1: Just to continue to believe in yourself, I tell myself,

813
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:14,879
Speaker 1: all you have is all you need. I think we're

814
00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:18,880
Speaker 1: all blessed with something specific within us, and it's just

815
00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:21,640
Speaker 1: about you utilizing the gift that each and every one

816
00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:25,360
Speaker 1: of us have within us and not looking at, you know,

817
00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:28,440
Speaker 1: the next person and comparing what they have versus what

818
00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:32,600
Speaker 1: you don't have. And yeah, just understanding that everything that

819
00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:34,680
Speaker 1: you have within you is everything that you need to

820
00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:38,279
Speaker 1: be successful. So if I could go back and tell

821
00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:40,880
Speaker 1: myself that probably would have ran a little faster, but

822
00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:42,120
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter now, right.

823
00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:45,320
Speaker 2: It doesn't matter now now for those of the ladies

824
00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:48,439
Speaker 2: and the audience that aren't following along with you, just yet,

825
00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:50,360
Speaker 2: give us your details. Where do we find you on

826
00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:51,120
Speaker 2: the socials?

827
00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:51,600
Speaker 4: Yeah?

828
00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:55,399
Speaker 1: Well, honestly on every platform it's the same. Not many

829
00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:59,800
Speaker 1: people have my name, so it's m Asai.

830
00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:03,959
Speaker 4: And then if she come up after that, Massigh Russell.

831
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Speaker 3: You know how I do it.

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Speaker 2: On the show I'm Over at Emily a Body and

833
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:11,960
Speaker 2: at Hurdle Podcast we say another hurdle conquered, Thank.

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Speaker 3: You so much. Let's give it up for a MASSI