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Speaker 2: I don't like to assume a lot from a little,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there's things that you know, and you know it's

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Speaker 1: It's just little things that I feel like you take.

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Speaker 2: Yes, But young girls can get away with that because

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Speaker 2: We're wrong, we don't have vaginas, we don't know how

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Speaker 2: That's an early twenties thing that you get away with

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Speaker 2: If you're addicted to sugar, that's number one. You're addicted

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Speaker 2: But that water became trendy recently, water became trendy.

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Speaker 2: I admit it. I paid fucking four dollars for water.

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Speaker 1: That's insane of New York. Though. You need you need,

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Speaker 1: Yes, I think Usher was sitting a few rolls back

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Speaker 1: But it's it's always interesting when when artists have those

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Speaker 2: I've watched Usher, who I love love Usher one of

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Speaker 2: So to watch and artists do that, which is fine.

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Speaker 2: Just say to him, yo, because of you, I now

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Speaker 1: Say that then yeah, I mean, but you know it again,

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Speaker 1: And I think that's what t Pain was for a

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Speaker 2: And also, on top of that, why are you only

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Speaker 2: The entire time Kanye was making that album and after said,

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Speaker 1: But but Rory see you a little younger than me.

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Speaker 2: So Far Gone Shit, I think that derives from t Pain. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: This was fucking Usher dog like T Pain is is

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Speaker 2: loved Usher. And then you finally like, are in your success?

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Speaker 2: And he said, this is four years ago, right or

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00:19:55,080 --> 00:19:56,960
Speaker 2: it took it took him into a four depression.

432
00:19:56,960 --> 00:19:59,760
Speaker 1: He didn't say, hope this wasn't four years ago. Me too,

433
00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:02,240
Speaker 1: I hope this wasn't for you. I think this was.

434
00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:05,720
Speaker 1: I think there was a few twenty thirteen, okay, yeah,

435
00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:07,160
Speaker 1: eight years ago? Cool?

436
00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:11,960
Speaker 2: Okay, See that would that bothers me even more because Pain,

437
00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:15,280
Speaker 2: you would say what Pain's height was two thousand and seven?

438
00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:16,680
Speaker 1: Eight was his height height?

439
00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:19,040
Speaker 2: I'm saying, of course he was bodying from two thousand

440
00:20:19,040 --> 00:20:20,159
Speaker 2: and three to on.

441
00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:24,119
Speaker 1: But when Pain was on every fucking hook nine around

442
00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:25,240
Speaker 1: there and fucking.

443
00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:26,880
Speaker 2: Lil Wayne took all the Tea Pain shit too. Ah shure,

444
00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:28,080
Speaker 2: How the fuck could you say that?

445
00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:31,199
Speaker 1: But that's where that's where again we get to that

446
00:20:31,240 --> 00:20:33,639
Speaker 1: point where he didn't he ushered in a new.

447
00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:38,120
Speaker 2: Sound, and by twenty thirteen, I can see Pain kind

448
00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:40,600
Speaker 2: of feeling away where a lot of people took his

449
00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:43,240
Speaker 2: style and he didn't get all the credit that he

450
00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:45,960
Speaker 2: deserved for it. He didn't get left behind, but I

451
00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:49,800
Speaker 2: just know people didn't treat Pain to the legacy to

452
00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:52,240
Speaker 2: who he was as an artist.

453
00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:53,359
Speaker 1: He didn't get that credit, right.

454
00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:57,360
Speaker 2: So then to be sitting there minding your fucking business,

455
00:20:57,560 --> 00:20:59,679
Speaker 2: trying to fly to Cleveland or wherever the fuck he

456
00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:02,439
Speaker 2: was trying go, and then have one of the greatest

457
00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:06,320
Speaker 2: of all time in twenty thirteen. Then on top of that,

458
00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:08,480
Speaker 2: you was sit in there like all right.

459
00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:11,359
Speaker 1: Man, yeah, yeah, it's it's it's it's it's crazy. But

460
00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:13,160
Speaker 1: you know, to hear an artist as big as Tea

461
00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:15,800
Speaker 1: Pain speak on that and you know, speak how that

462
00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:19,560
Speaker 1: affected his life, that was that was That was shocking. Man.

463
00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:22,320
Speaker 1: I really didn't That was a story that I don't

464
00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:24,440
Speaker 1: think anybody heard up until that point.

465
00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:26,199
Speaker 2: All I think it looks like it's from the This

466
00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:28,480
Speaker 2: is Pop documentary. It looked like it was a trailer

467
00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:31,800
Speaker 2: from that. But now we just rewatched that ship and

468
00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:35,000
Speaker 2: come on, he was asleep and the flight attendant.

469
00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:37,760
Speaker 1: Woke him up up. Yeah, that in my business. Yeah,

470
00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:40,000
Speaker 1: that adds a different different Uh.

471
00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:42,440
Speaker 2: And we left out this the second part. He was saying,

472
00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:45,679
Speaker 2: you've you kind of fucked up music. You fucked it

473
00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:47,000
Speaker 2: up for real singers.

474
00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:51,160
Speaker 1: But that's fucked that's fucked up, man.

475
00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:53,199
Speaker 2: But if you look at like I was just quickly

476
00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:57,400
Speaker 2: looking just to make sure the amount of great albums

477
00:21:57,440 --> 00:22:00,920
Speaker 2: that came out from real singers from when Pain started

478
00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:04,439
Speaker 2: up until now have have been good. Like It's not

479
00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:08,600
Speaker 2: like it all disappeared. Alicia Keys went crazy, John Legend

480
00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:14,400
Speaker 2: went crazy, Jill Scott went crazy. Uh, Trey Song say

481
00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:16,000
Speaker 2: what you say what you will about him. You guys

482
00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:20,480
Speaker 2: know how I feel of Trey. Come on, if Usher

483
00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:24,040
Speaker 2: would say Trey Songs is a real singer. Neo went crazy,

484
00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:29,040
Speaker 2: like Beyonce obviously went crazy. Janet put out like there's

485
00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:31,639
Speaker 2: a lot of real singers in here that kind of

486
00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:34,520
Speaker 2: went nuts, like just because t pag was doing that.

487
00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:39,920
Speaker 2: Maybe on the everyday charts and the parties. Keisha Cole

488
00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:43,159
Speaker 2: went crazy, Like there's a lot of real singers that

489
00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:46,800
Speaker 2: went nuts and were very successful. Jasmine Sullivan went crazy.

490
00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:54,080
Speaker 2: Still it didn't kill it. Maybe killed the like mainstream mainstream,

491
00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:56,159
Speaker 2: mainstream focus or the part like not to say real

492
00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:58,680
Speaker 2: singers even making party music like that anyways.

493
00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:00,159
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's what it was. I think us

494
00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:03,240
Speaker 1: should just you know, when you say you're ruined music

495
00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:07,520
Speaker 1: for real singers, I think maybe he met nobody wants

496
00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:11,560
Speaker 1: to hit ballads anymore, but maybe our ballads are kind

497
00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:14,000
Speaker 1: of like getting phased out because everybody wants to hear

498
00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:19,760
Speaker 1: the synth heavy but beat it. I disagree. I disagree.

499
00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:23,720
Speaker 2: I think I think pain and just that whole era

500
00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:28,560
Speaker 2: like heightened how much we respect real singers because like

501
00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:32,000
Speaker 2: through all that auto tune stuff, like when real shit

502
00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:32,880
Speaker 2: came out, it was like.

503
00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:36,720
Speaker 1: Oh, appreciate it. Yeah, like it's nuts, real I mean,

504
00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:40,760
Speaker 1: real singers, real music. That's that's never gonna be something

505
00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:42,800
Speaker 1: that people frown upon, like you you know, it might

506
00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:45,840
Speaker 1: it may not be the trendy popular sound at the moment,

507
00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:48,720
Speaker 1: but once you hear it again, you're gonna appreciate and

508
00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:51,280
Speaker 1: love it, Like damn like, this is you real type

509
00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:52,960
Speaker 1: of shit? Real singers is the same way.

510
00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:54,760
Speaker 2: When we were talking about the co album, I was like, Yo,

511
00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:57,680
Speaker 2: trends will always come and go, different sounds will always

512
00:23:57,680 --> 00:24:01,160
Speaker 2: come and go. Top tier rapping will always be the best.

513
00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:03,080
Speaker 2: It will always be relevant.

514
00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:07,040
Speaker 1: It will always say as popular, but it's always relevant.

515
00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:10,800
Speaker 2: Again the top three for the most part, and rap

516
00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:14,320
Speaker 2: rap for real. And when it comes to R and B,

517
00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:17,919
Speaker 2: I think the real singers are the same way. They

518
00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:19,960
Speaker 2: will always be relevant, They'll always sell the most. It

519
00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:22,920
Speaker 2: will always be a thing when they're around. Everyone will

520
00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:26,200
Speaker 2: stop when they go do something like yeah to say

521
00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:28,040
Speaker 2: that I don't know, I've been really drunk on planes

522
00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:28,880
Speaker 2: and says some dumb shit.

523
00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:31,199
Speaker 1: So has Usher responded to that? I don't know.

524
00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:33,240
Speaker 2: I don't know, and who knows how they edited this

525
00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:36,320
Speaker 2: like it. It could be nuts, but just don't don't

526
00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:36,720
Speaker 2: wake me up.

527
00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:39,640
Speaker 1: Autum. So this is a doc that's coming. It looks

528
00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:42,760
Speaker 1: like that this is pop. I think it is okay. Yeah,

529
00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:45,320
Speaker 1: I gotta watch that. I'm definitely interested to hear the

530
00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:48,640
Speaker 1: rest of that story and how him and Usher are today.

531
00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:50,719
Speaker 1: If he gets into that, I would love to hear

532
00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:53,359
Speaker 1: how their relationship is today. But that was just that

533
00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:55,640
Speaker 1: was shocking. That was something that I don't think again,

534
00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:58,640
Speaker 1: I don't think any of us ever heard, but oh,

535
00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:00,840
Speaker 1: this is what he tweeted. I still love and respect Usher.

536
00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:03,359
Speaker 1: Telling that story was in no way meant to disrespect

537
00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:05,399
Speaker 1: that man. People talk about me twenty four to seven,

538
00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:07,679
Speaker 1: But when it comes from someone you truly respect, it

539
00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:10,600
Speaker 1: hits very different. I never said fucker. It was a

540
00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:12,840
Speaker 1: drop in the ocean of shit. I was already going through.

541
00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:20,040
Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, and listen, he may have said it. He

542
00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:22,440
Speaker 2: may have said it in a joking way or said

543
00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:23,280
Speaker 2: it with a tone that.

544
00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:26,680
Speaker 1: I think you like. Usher told you you ruined.

545
00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:29,280
Speaker 2: But even if you say that from us, you kind

546
00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:30,800
Speaker 2: of mean that shit. I don't care what Tony, you know,

547
00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:31,840
Speaker 2: he definitely meant it.

548
00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:32,960
Speaker 1: But yeah, and you never.

549
00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:36,280
Speaker 2: Really know what people are going through in the way

550
00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:38,080
Speaker 2: the way they take some of the things you say

551
00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:40,639
Speaker 2: may not even be how you meant it, but because

552
00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:44,520
Speaker 2: they're going through something, you know, they may take it harshly.

553
00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:47,920
Speaker 2: So I guess with your friends in particular, you should

554
00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:49,520
Speaker 2: choose your words wisely.

555
00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:53,920
Speaker 1: But that's that's wild. Usher telling you you ruined. That's

556
00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:56,840
Speaker 1: like that's like Kobe telling you, you know, God bless us,

557
00:25:56,840 --> 00:25:58,640
Speaker 1: like Kobe telling you you ruined basketball. Man.

558
00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:01,800
Speaker 2: If I was and I walked to the back of

559
00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:05,400
Speaker 2: the plane and Usher said, Yo, you kind of fucked

560
00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:06,640
Speaker 2: up music, I'd be like dog.

561
00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:09,960
Speaker 1: Even jay Z tried this, it didn't work. Yeah, you

562
00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:10,639
Speaker 1: can't get rid of me.

563
00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:13,120
Speaker 2: There's very few things Hope tried it didn't work, and

564
00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:15,360
Speaker 2: killing auto Tune was one of them.

565
00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:18,160
Speaker 1: So sorry I should have didn't. That shit, though, really

566
00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:21,080
Speaker 1: didn't kill it. It had a little break where people

567
00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:23,280
Speaker 1: was like Jackie, yeah, and we fuck that altitude shit.

568
00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:25,840
Speaker 1: It was definitely a moment where people was definitely not

569
00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:28,359
Speaker 1: fucking with Auto Tune. No, there was. It didn't last

570
00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:31,800
Speaker 1: very long, but there was a moment. There was a moment.

571
00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:33,919
Speaker 2: I really don't think there was. It was bro but

572
00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:37,080
Speaker 2: like the one night that Flex played that shit, no

573
00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:40,199
Speaker 2: do A. I fucking love that record. But yeah, and

574
00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:42,359
Speaker 2: it actually has great replay value. I'm just saying it

575
00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:43,840
Speaker 2: didn't do much.

576
00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:46,200
Speaker 1: It didn't know. It didn't kill Autotune.

577
00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:48,359
Speaker 2: No, when Hope said no more Jerseys the next day,

578
00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:50,520
Speaker 2: there was no more Jerseys. I heard Auto Tune the

579
00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:51,240
Speaker 2: very next day.

580
00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:55,400
Speaker 1: Well, yes, it was still in rotation, but it still

581
00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:58,000
Speaker 1: wasn't like and then it kept rotation, but people kind

582
00:26:58,000 --> 00:26:59,480
Speaker 1: of frowned at it. People kind of was like, yo,

583
00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:02,240
Speaker 1: come on, auto tune ship. Man, it was a thing.

584
00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:03,920
Speaker 1: It was a thing for a moment. They didn't last

585
00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:05,840
Speaker 1: very long, but people was definitely like, come on with

586
00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:09,760
Speaker 1: those autotomb ship. This happens, bro it happens.

587
00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:11,919
Speaker 2: And then hope try to say no more TEMs. We

588
00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:13,879
Speaker 2: off that than I've seen the whole next week with

589
00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:14,320
Speaker 2: Tims on.

590
00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:18,680
Speaker 1: Listen, man, you know it was cold. What you sposed to,

591
00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:20,680
Speaker 1: what you supposed to do. I was never off Tims.

592
00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:23,240
Speaker 1: I was always with it. Off teams, still not off teams,

593
00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:26,639
Speaker 1: even though we gotta we gotta kill this narrative about

594
00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:29,600
Speaker 1: just every New Yorker just wearing that's that's just that

595
00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:33,280
Speaker 1: corny Twitter ship. Yeah, like we don't wear Tims like that,

596
00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:35,920
Speaker 1: like every now and the and and then and when

597
00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:38,920
Speaker 1: it's cold or it's snowing, like you might throw a

598
00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:40,800
Speaker 1: pair of Tams on and run around, but like we

599
00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:44,120
Speaker 1: don't have our teams just lined up like in the closet.

600
00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:46,520
Speaker 1: Like it's not that it's all that corny New York

601
00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:48,720
Speaker 1: like that ship, but that has to stop, like that

602
00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:51,000
Speaker 1: ship about New Yorkers and their tims, that that has

603
00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:51,399
Speaker 1: to stop.

604
00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:55,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, along with half of those corny New York Twitter jokes.

605
00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:57,560
Speaker 2: But yeah, he used to came out what you've been

606
00:27:57,560 --> 00:27:59,560
Speaker 2: listening to her? HER's debut.

607
00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:08,080
Speaker 1: Or fifth album, which her latest her Lady did in

608
00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:11,000
Speaker 1: description her latest entry, Yeah, no, this this is her

609
00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:16,760
Speaker 1: rookie project, even though she's put out amazing projects, but

610
00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:20,719
Speaker 1: it's been a ton of them. I liked it.

611
00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:24,200
Speaker 2: I mean, it's a lot of records we had heard.

612
00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:29,520
Speaker 2: How they've been rolling her out the past year or

613
00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:32,080
Speaker 2: so has been interesting And in no way am I

614
00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:34,439
Speaker 2: saying it was good or bad or really have an

615
00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:37,680
Speaker 2: opinion on it. It's just been interesting. Like her went

616
00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:42,960
Speaker 2: from we would only hear about her through her mixtapes

617
00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:44,880
Speaker 2: and that was the only time. There'd be no lucies.

618
00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:46,560
Speaker 2: You would just get the project and that would be it.

619
00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:49,360
Speaker 2: Then there was a stance where we were just getting

620
00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:54,200
Speaker 2: mad lucies that they like weren't promoting, Like if you knew,

621
00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:56,760
Speaker 2: you knew. If it made the playlist, it made the playlist.

622
00:28:56,840 --> 00:28:58,720
Speaker 2: It was like, oh fuck, her dropped another record? Wait

623
00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:00,360
Speaker 2: this her record? Has been out for three weeks. I

624
00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:02,600
Speaker 2: had no idea, so I wasn't sure if that was

625
00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:06,560
Speaker 2: a strategy. And then I feel like this album, which

626
00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:08,920
Speaker 2: is great by the way back of my mind, I

627
00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:11,160
Speaker 2: just didn't like know about it.

628
00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:12,200
Speaker 1: And I'm a huge her fan.

629
00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:14,720
Speaker 2: I knew about it, but it was kind of like

630
00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:17,479
Speaker 2: right when it came out, which if it's hard for

631
00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:21,520
Speaker 2: me to find her album, I know your casual listener

632
00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:24,680
Speaker 2: is not fine, fine, right right, because I mean, of

633
00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:31,200
Speaker 2: course Damage was fucking huge, like incredible, and then you know,

634
00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:34,040
Speaker 2: she had put out other Lucy's, but I felt like

635
00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:36,520
Speaker 2: the Lucy's outside of Damage, I wasn't sure if they

636
00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:38,320
Speaker 2: were supposed to be singles or they were back to

637
00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:42,840
Speaker 2: this strategy of here's just records in the meantime. So

638
00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:45,800
Speaker 2: a lot of those were on here, but I just

639
00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:49,000
Speaker 2: felt like it was her project that was hard to find.

640
00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:52,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, they didn't do the best job at promoting it,

641
00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:54,440
Speaker 1: and let us know, it was it was. It was dropping,

642
00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:57,680
Speaker 1: But I mean, you know, we're just talking about the music,

643
00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:01,640
Speaker 1: and you know the project is it's amazing. I love it.

644
00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:06,360
Speaker 1: I think the production was great. The obviously vocally, she's

645
00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:10,080
Speaker 1: phenomenal on every track The features were dope. The record

646
00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:14,760
Speaker 1: with her and Little Baby is is hard. I like it, man,

647
00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:17,600
Speaker 1: I love her though, like it's it's gonna be hard

648
00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:20,480
Speaker 1: for me to ever not like anything that she puts

649
00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:22,240
Speaker 1: out Like I just think she's one of those artists

650
00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:24,920
Speaker 1: that can really do no wrong. I mean, she may

651
00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:28,280
Speaker 1: experiment with records here and there and try to, you know,

652
00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:31,360
Speaker 1: create a different sound for her for her audience, but

653
00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:34,680
Speaker 1: you know, as far as a project, I don't think

654
00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:37,280
Speaker 1: she's capable of putting out a bad project at this point.

655
00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:42,000
Speaker 2: And that's kind of why I'm more talking about the

656
00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:45,120
Speaker 2: rollout and strategy, just because her thing around her music

657
00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:47,960
Speaker 2: is always gonna be incredible, right, who's gonna say otherwise

658
00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:49,640
Speaker 2: until she puts out a bad project. She has not

659
00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:52,560
Speaker 2: done that yet. She's fucking amazing. It's amazing performer or

660
00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:58,600
Speaker 2: that shit. At what point is the mystique thing over? Like,

661
00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:02,320
Speaker 2: when do we stop doing the deep thing that was her?

662
00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:05,320
Speaker 2: That was her curve from Gabby Wilson said, yeah, her

663
00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:06,280
Speaker 2: rend which was great.

664
00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:08,680
Speaker 1: They body that, Oh you know, that was one of

665
00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:09,520
Speaker 1: the greatest reminds.

666
00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:12,000
Speaker 2: But now she does a lot of performances. There's no

667
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:14,960
Speaker 2: no more of the eerie lighting anymore. She's out there,

668
00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:17,840
Speaker 2: but they're still trying to like dabble. It's like they're

669
00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:21,160
Speaker 2: playing hopscotch with She's out now, she's mystique. We're just

670
00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:23,400
Speaker 2: gonna put out records and if you know, you know, like,

671
00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:27,560
Speaker 2: at what point are we just straight up like she's

672
00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:30,880
Speaker 2: she is an artist that I don't want to say accessible,

673
00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:33,000
Speaker 2: but you can see all the time, we know who

674
00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:34,560
Speaker 2: she is as a person.

675
00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:37,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, because even these records, the shades and all of

676
00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:40,000
Speaker 1: the glasses and all of that was to hide that.

677
00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:42,320
Speaker 1: I think that that's just part of her aesthetic. Like

678
00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:44,920
Speaker 1: she wears dope, you know, dresses and stuff like that

679
00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:46,360
Speaker 1: with Jordan Ones, Like that's just.

680
00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:50,720
Speaker 2: Her of getting because no they show her face and

681
00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:54,760
Speaker 2: now everything performances, she's lit all the way. Just getting

682
00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:58,080
Speaker 2: to know her, like as a person, because like her

683
00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:02,320
Speaker 2: records are very personal, they're relatable. She's now an adult,

684
00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:04,760
Speaker 2: She's been through shit. She's no longer Gabby Wilson, the

685
00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:08,160
Speaker 2: girl like that hasn't talked to a dude or been

686
00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:09,480
Speaker 2: through a life experience yet.

687
00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:10,720
Speaker 1: She's a woman though.

688
00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:14,720
Speaker 2: I just think they can pull back from the mystique

689
00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:17,160
Speaker 2: because I know she's penning a lot of that.

690
00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:18,800
Speaker 1: I know. It's not like she's been given records.

691
00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:22,520
Speaker 2: She's got a really interesting perspective, and I just think

692
00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:27,480
Speaker 2: the fan base could relate even more to her if

693
00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:31,200
Speaker 2: they stopped doing the hopscotch of Yo. This is the

694
00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:34,520
Speaker 2: mystique person. This is not the mystique person.

695
00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:37,280
Speaker 1: I like it. I like the I like the whole

696
00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:40,800
Speaker 1: mystique thing. I think it adds to her. I think

697
00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:42,920
Speaker 1: it adds to the aesthetic. I think it adds to

698
00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:47,160
Speaker 1: the content of her music, because you don't It's like

699
00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:50,200
Speaker 1: any woman can be going through these type of emotions

700
00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:53,000
Speaker 1: and these feelings, so it's like, why, you know, put

701
00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:55,360
Speaker 1: a distinct face to it. I see what they're doing with.

702
00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:58,480
Speaker 2: It, and listen, I'm speaking from a very entitled place.

703
00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:00,200
Speaker 2: She may just not want to talk to nobody, which

704
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:02,200
Speaker 2: I understand, which I love she has. She has a

705
00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:04,479
Speaker 2: career I would want where it's like I pop ound performer.

706
00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:08,320
Speaker 1: No, I can just go yeah by too many artists

707
00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:10,920
Speaker 1: are way too accessible. I love the I love the artists.

708
00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:13,680
Speaker 1: That's still like, listen, I'm putting out the music and

709
00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:16,680
Speaker 1: then you know, I'm back into my zone, to my circle.

710
00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:19,680
Speaker 1: Of friends and family that I love and I'm with

711
00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:23,120
Speaker 1: all the time. I gave the world my art. Let

712
00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:25,479
Speaker 1: them do with it what they will. I like that,

713
00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:28,760
Speaker 1: I don't do. I like the the mystique and you know,

714
00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:33,479
Speaker 1: the hiding from the public eye. I like that.

715
00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:35,880
Speaker 2: I think it's I think it's a different pace of

716
00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:38,040
Speaker 2: what is. I guess it is what works for you

717
00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:38,680
Speaker 2: in that sense.

718
00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:42,280
Speaker 1: But yeah, when you didn't like listen to the music

719
00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:46,080
Speaker 1: she's she's killing ship man like, it's hard not to

720
00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:52,960
Speaker 1: love her looking more awareness, not visibility in that sense,

721
00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:56,760
Speaker 1: as far as, of course her awareness around her, but

722
00:33:57,000 --> 00:34:02,640
Speaker 1: just that intangible buzz of fan bases that just know you,

723
00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:07,960
Speaker 1: like fam they know Summer right, Summer's gonna show you

724
00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:10,719
Speaker 1: exactly who she is. Kailani is gonna tell you who

725
00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:14,040
Speaker 1: the fuck she is, And people gravitate to that because

726
00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:16,440
Speaker 1: it's so authentic and it is so them, because they can.

727
00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:18,920
Speaker 1: And I feel like HER's music is so authentic and

728
00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:20,880
Speaker 1: it is so her. If it doesn't feel forced, it

729
00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:23,680
Speaker 1: doesn't feel like someone else's writing this for her, I

730
00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:25,399
Speaker 1: would just be interested just as a fan.

731
00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:27,680
Speaker 2: She doesn't knowe us this at all. I'm not saying

732
00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:30,960
Speaker 2: she should do this. It just be I'd be interested

733
00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:34,560
Speaker 2: to just get to know her more because the music

734
00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:37,560
Speaker 2: is so personal, that's really it. And I don't know

735
00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:41,440
Speaker 2: if that's connected to they're not being so much awareness

736
00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:45,080
Speaker 2: around the album to a you know, a B level

737
00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:50,160
Speaker 2: artist that she is, That's that's really it. I was

738
00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:53,399
Speaker 2: just lost. Maybe I'm just disconnected. Maybe everyone knew about

739
00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:54,239
Speaker 2: this and I didn't fucking know.

740
00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:55,880
Speaker 1: No, I didn't know about it either, But I was

741
00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:59,000
Speaker 1: happy to know it was dropping that night. Like I

742
00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:01,719
Speaker 1: was definitely happy for that. I'm I'm a huge Herd fan,

743
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:03,640
Speaker 1: so I was happy for that. But I do understand

744
00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:06,040
Speaker 1: what you're saying. I think they need to spend more time,

745
00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:08,839
Speaker 1: like you know, rolling out in a traditional way, rolling

746
00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:10,680
Speaker 1: out the music, rolling out the project, letting us know

747
00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:14,040
Speaker 1: that the project is dropping. But you know, once we

748
00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:17,080
Speaker 1: got the project and I listened to it, I wasn't disappointed.

749
00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:20,279
Speaker 1: Oh no, not at all. I'm still playing cardiac too, yeah,

750
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:21,440
Speaker 1: car shout out the Cardiac.

751
00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:26,120
Speaker 2: What did you think about Bloody Waters of her doing

752
00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:28,799
Speaker 2: I don't want to say a Marvin impression, but a

753
00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:32,640
Speaker 2: Marvin cadence and the percussion was was very Marvin.

754
00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:35,919
Speaker 1: I like it. Again, she's she's an artist, man, She's

755
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:38,360
Speaker 1: she's one of those artists that she she pays attention

756
00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:42,520
Speaker 1: to the craft. She's a student of the game. She

757
00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:45,520
Speaker 1: plays instruments, so you know she's she's from that cloth. Man,

758
00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:48,600
Speaker 1: she's gonna she's gonna do records like that that. You know,

759
00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:53,280
Speaker 1: it's not the traditional way that artists, you know, present

760
00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:54,920
Speaker 1: their albums. They don't do these, they don't record these

761
00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:57,080
Speaker 1: type of records. They don't make this type of music.

762
00:35:57,800 --> 00:35:59,920
Speaker 1: This is why you gotta respect her and and honestly

763
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:01,839
Speaker 1: got to put her in her own category. I can't

764
00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:05,080
Speaker 1: even put her in the same category with a lot

765
00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:07,400
Speaker 1: of these other artists because she's just so different. It's

766
00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:10,759
Speaker 1: so unique man, vocally, and you know, she's she's she's

767
00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:13,719
Speaker 1: an artist. She plays instruments, and you know, she's the

768
00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:17,160
Speaker 1: look everything she's it's just everything is part of the art.

769
00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:20,360
Speaker 1: And that's why she's one of my favorite artists to watch.

770
00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:22,960
Speaker 1: And I'm always looking for I'm always looking to hear

771
00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:25,799
Speaker 1: what she got come in. Sometimes you know, again it's

772
00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:28,319
Speaker 1: a little left, but I understand the artist be behind it.

773
00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:32,000
Speaker 1: But then again, she gives you the album and songs

774
00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:34,400
Speaker 1: like you know damage and the back of my mind

775
00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:38,600
Speaker 1: and find a way and you know mean it all

776
00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:40,560
Speaker 1: these all these records you start hearing, you like, all right,

777
00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:43,440
Speaker 1: she's she's in her bag, she's this is who she is.

778
00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:46,440
Speaker 1: She's not gonna miss she's she's gonna give you something different,

779
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:48,840
Speaker 1: but it's not going to be off target. No, I agree.

780
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:52,600
Speaker 1: I agree. Uh the Trauma record with a Corday and

781
00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:53,000
Speaker 1: hit Boy.

782
00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:59,200
Speaker 2: M HM did like the small bits of accountability that

783
00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:03,440
Speaker 2: she was taking as a woman on certain parts, like that,

784
00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:05,960
Speaker 2: I don't want the drama from the trauma, bad energy.

785
00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:09,640
Speaker 1: It's the problem. Listen.

786
00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:12,880
Speaker 2: We all have our trauma and it's terrible that we

787
00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:15,440
Speaker 2: have it, and it's not our fault that we react

788
00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:19,520
Speaker 2: the way we do with certain situations, but it is

789
00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:24,759
Speaker 2: our responsibility to try our best not to project that

790
00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:29,839
Speaker 2: on other people and make every bit of energy in

791
00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:36,279
Speaker 2: the room insufferable. Like I felt that she was kind

792
00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:38,560
Speaker 2: of taking accountability, like, listen, yeah, I blame everything on

793
00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:41,359
Speaker 2: my ex. I've been through a bunch of shit, but

794
00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:44,040
Speaker 2: I don't want the drama. She didn't say from my trauma,

795
00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:46,839
Speaker 2: but I was hoping she meant that, and she'd meant

796
00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:50,720
Speaker 2: it's bad fucking energy. Like, I know it's not cliche,

797
00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:53,000
Speaker 2: but it is sort of cliche of us saying we

798
00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:55,480
Speaker 2: need to deal with our trauma. We do because we

799
00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:58,319
Speaker 2: don't realize the energy. It sucks that we had to

800
00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:01,320
Speaker 2: go through it, but we also project so much terrible

801
00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:03,759
Speaker 2: fucking energy on other people when we do it, and

802
00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:05,640
Speaker 2: they were like, well, why would why would you leave me?

803
00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:08,680
Speaker 1: I'm going through trauma. It's like, fam, you're giving me trauma, right,

804
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:13,480
Speaker 1: get the fuck away from me? Do though again, it

805
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:15,080
Speaker 1: could be in termally a bunch of ways.

806
00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:17,120
Speaker 2: That's actually why I thought that hook was so dope

807
00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:21,880
Speaker 2: because anytime, you know, I've dealt women and even like

808
00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:24,840
Speaker 2: with male friendships too, of their trauma being projected on

809
00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:28,360
Speaker 2: other people and how munch that fucks up your relationship

810
00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:31,160
Speaker 2: with that person, and then they kind of come back like, well,

811
00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:33,560
Speaker 2: come on, man, I was going through this like how

812
00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:34,759
Speaker 2: the fuck could you not look out?

813
00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:35,960
Speaker 1: Which I've been guilty of too.

814
00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:41,120
Speaker 2: But it's also like, are you realizing what you're projecting

815
00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:46,359
Speaker 2: on other people and how annoying you can be and

816
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:49,160
Speaker 2: how much trauma you're putting in the air. Now you're

817
00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:52,680
Speaker 2: giving me trauma for some ship I had nothing to do.

818
00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:54,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, but that's we all deal with that type of shit.

819
00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:58,560
Speaker 1: HER's a great writer, No, she's She's phenomenal. Man. I've

820
00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:01,200
Speaker 1: seen some people trying to you know, they were knocking it.

821
00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:03,160
Speaker 1: They didn't like the album, they didn't like the project,

822
00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:06,080
Speaker 1: and I'm just like, it was that really the consensus

823
00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:07,920
Speaker 1: for people. I saw a lot of that. I saw

824
00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:10,160
Speaker 1: a lot of that online and I didn't understand, you know,

825
00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:13,000
Speaker 1: but again, you listen, man, I just don't know what

826
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:14,799
Speaker 1: people are looking for these days, what they want to

827
00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:18,399
Speaker 1: hear from artists, you know, what they're expecting. I don't know, man.

828
00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:22,759
Speaker 1: I'm just enjoying what I enjoy, and you know, I

829
00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:25,800
Speaker 1: don't let other people's perceptions and their feelings and their

830
00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:29,520
Speaker 1: thoughts on things persuade mine. I like to listen to

831
00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:31,720
Speaker 1: the album myself, because I saw a lot of people

832
00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:33,440
Speaker 1: saying they didn't like it, and the album was out

833
00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:37,239
Speaker 1: for an hour and I was like, that's yeah, but wait,

834
00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:39,040
Speaker 1: it just came out, Like how do you know? You don't?

835
00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:41,200
Speaker 1: So I went and I sat with it and I

836
00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:43,400
Speaker 1: played it. And the best thing for me to do

837
00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:45,560
Speaker 1: is you you play new music or I play new

838
00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:49,440
Speaker 1: music when I'm doing other shit in the house cleaning,

839
00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:53,120
Speaker 1: you know, packing, or you know, going through shit, rearranging

840
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:55,520
Speaker 1: the closet or that way. That just music. That's the

841
00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:58,080
Speaker 1: best way when you're not really paying attention to it

842
00:39:58,520 --> 00:39:59,799
Speaker 1: and you kind of just hear it in the back

843
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:02,440
Speaker 1: and you like, oh shit, that melody is hard, Like okay,

844
00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:04,960
Speaker 1: caught that bar that she said to me. That's the

845
00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:06,719
Speaker 1: best way to take in music. Have you played this

846
00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:08,879
Speaker 1: around women yet? Not yet? No.

847
00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:11,400
Speaker 2: I feel like this might be a dangerous album to

848
00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:15,520
Speaker 2: play around women on a kickback. Well, because it's because

849
00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:18,080
Speaker 2: it's kind of an emotional roller coaster where there's records

850
00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:20,360
Speaker 2: that are perfect for the kickback, even some of the

851
00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:22,960
Speaker 2: hurt records sing along with like Dammage. You could play

852
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:25,000
Speaker 2: the kickback and everyone's gonna love that record.

853
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:27,040
Speaker 1: First of all, what was playing an entire project at

854
00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:29,919
Speaker 1: a kickback? You better have a playlist, somebody better be DJing,

855
00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:34,000
Speaker 1: all right? Let me You are correct, You're correct, I

856
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:35,280
Speaker 1: shouldn't use the term kickback.

857
00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:37,560
Speaker 2: You chilling with a woman one on one doing something,

858
00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:40,279
Speaker 2: you know, talking where you just throw something on like

859
00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:42,560
Speaker 2: oh shit that her album came out, Like I've done

860
00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:44,400
Speaker 2: that with people it's just like, oh, this just came out.

861
00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:46,160
Speaker 2: Let's listen to it front to back while we do

862
00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:49,960
Speaker 2: other shit too. This one it's an emotional roller coaster

863
00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:52,799
Speaker 2: where you may be getting some headway with a chick

864
00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:54,480
Speaker 2: and a certain record.

865
00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:57,160
Speaker 1: Will come on a feeling. It brings something. Now she's

866
00:40:57,200 --> 00:40:59,520
Speaker 1: in a mood. Yeah, yeah, you gotta be careful with that.

867
00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:01,239
Speaker 1: Her one of those artists that you got to know

868
00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:03,840
Speaker 1: which record you're playing. Oh yeah, yeah, they gotta know.

869
00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:06,560
Speaker 1: As much as I love Damage, I don't know if

870
00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:07,520
Speaker 1: I want to throw that on.

871
00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:12,360
Speaker 2: Damage has surpassed when Damage first came out. No Damage

872
00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:13,840
Speaker 2: is I don't want to say, like a pop record now,

873
00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:17,600
Speaker 2: but it's surpassed that. It like now it's just like listen,

874
00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:21,400
Speaker 2: good Day's Scissorve record is if you really listen to

875
00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:25,239
Speaker 2: that's a beautiful fucking record, absolutely mad, depressing. Absolutely it's

876
00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:27,560
Speaker 2: surpassed now. Where now it's just like chicks and bathing

877
00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:28,880
Speaker 2: suits like good Days on.

878
00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:30,960
Speaker 1: Like just looking cute? Are you okay? You kind of

879
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:32,640
Speaker 1: hit that? Listen you gotta charge.

880
00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:38,360
Speaker 2: I don't want to say room music, throw some on

881
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:44,000
Speaker 2: my ship. I mean I really want to ask, but

882
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:46,280
Speaker 2: you can't. DM chicks and ask them if they're okay,

883
00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:50,440
Speaker 2: because that's creepy. But anytime these chicks do post their

884
00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:54,000
Speaker 2: like swim swim suit reveals, which also is swim suit reveals,

885
00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:56,279
Speaker 2: are hilarious to me because it's like this much of thread, Like,

886
00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:59,880
Speaker 2: what are we really revealing besides your ass? They have

887
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:01,920
Speaker 2: on that Scissor record behind all of it, and I

888
00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:04,239
Speaker 2: just want to ask them if they're okay, Like you

889
00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:07,399
Speaker 2: seem to be going through You're in tr right now

890
00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:07,920
Speaker 2: listening to this.

891
00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:11,560
Speaker 1: They move fast the lyrics and it's just the melody

892
00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:13,400
Speaker 1: and everything at that point. But it's like when you,

893
00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:15,120
Speaker 1: like you said, you really listen to the lyrics, it's

894
00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:17,719
Speaker 1: it's depressing. It's like, oh, she's hurt, she's been through

895
00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:20,879
Speaker 1: it was a scissor we know, yeah it's been Yeah,

896
00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:23,600
Speaker 1: absolutely absolutely, But yeah, I love I loved her album.

897
00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:27,480
Speaker 2: Man, what was some other records on that that list

898
00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:31,080
Speaker 2: that the hurt has surpassed? It's just now a record shicks.

899
00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:32,839
Speaker 2: Cranes in the Sky is one of those two Yes,

900
00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:37,000
Speaker 2: uh yeah, Cranes in the Sky is again beautiful record

901
00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:39,120
Speaker 2: that's rough.

902
00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:41,440
Speaker 1: Thank of like male R and B records that are

903
00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:45,600
Speaker 1: like like streaming for help. Yeah, like men saying that

904
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:50,839
Speaker 1: I have trauma, I'm hurt. I feel like every Dirk

905
00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:53,960
Speaker 1: verse that you all keep singing along too, is him

906
00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:56,000
Speaker 1: crying out for Yes, it could be.

907
00:42:56,120 --> 00:42:58,960
Speaker 2: I mean Dirk, and I'm not even making jokes. Like

908
00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:00,919
Speaker 2: Dirk has been through a lot lately. Yeah, I really

909
00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:04,920
Speaker 2: hope that impressed to him. Absolutely, he lost his brother recently.

910
00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:07,439
Speaker 2: It's just it's it's it's tragic.

911
00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:07,680
Speaker 1: Matter of fact.

912
00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:10,480
Speaker 2: A lot women are much better in music at just

913
00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:14,560
Speaker 2: straight up saying that they're hurt and conveying that, Like

914
00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:18,160
Speaker 2: men find little ways in their records that you'll catch

915
00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:20,799
Speaker 2: like that, dude is hurt, right, That's.

916
00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:23,520
Speaker 1: What I'm saying. We don't what's the male R and

917
00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:26,439
Speaker 1: B artist that we know is going to give us

918
00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:29,879
Speaker 1: the emotions and the feelings like raw right there. It's

919
00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:33,000
Speaker 1: not going to be like some coded, you know, cool

920
00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:35,959
Speaker 1: way of saying I'm hurt. It's like, no, oh, he's

921
00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:36,759
Speaker 1: going through it.

922
00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:41,799
Speaker 2: Well, I'll start with early weekend records. Oh, I mean

923
00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:44,520
Speaker 2: like when howse some Balloons came out, it was like

924
00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:46,680
Speaker 2: I wasn't depressed, matter of fact, pressed after that.

925
00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:48,759
Speaker 1: Drake, Drake is a great male artist of like, I'm

926
00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:50,319
Speaker 1: just straight up hurt. You could just see he's hurting.

927
00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:55,239
Speaker 2: Weekend, it was like, Doug, this gentleman has a drug problem. Yeah,

928
00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:58,440
Speaker 2: he has women problems. Yes, he has money problems, he

929
00:43:58,440 --> 00:44:01,600
Speaker 2: has family problems. He's hurt going through it, And meanwhile

930
00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:03,839
Speaker 2: we are having missionary sex jams.

931
00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:07,520
Speaker 1: Records jamm into these fucking songs like this, this is

932
00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:10,480
Speaker 1: the best fun. I'm what type of chicks you fucking

933
00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:12,359
Speaker 1: that get off to this ship? Like we be in

934
00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:15,000
Speaker 1: there having the greatest night of our lives to the

935
00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:18,759
Speaker 1: most depressing lyrics on the planet, And it's like, did

936
00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:21,239
Speaker 1: anybody check? Fuck what the album did the first week?

937
00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:24,719
Speaker 1: Did anybody check on this artist as a human? Like,

938
00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:28,040
Speaker 1: listen to them. They're crying for help, They're going through

939
00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:31,279
Speaker 1: some shit, and everyone's just saying how incredibly talented they are.

940
00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:33,879
Speaker 2: Well, shit, fuck I having a good first week pouring

941
00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:35,680
Speaker 2: your soul out and saying you hurt, and then no

942
00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:36,319
Speaker 2: one buying it.

943
00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:38,959
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's see. Now we're done the whole different level.

944
00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:41,040
Speaker 1: Now do you know the next album is gonna be incredible?

945
00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:43,800
Speaker 1: Now that was more hurt and depending on top of

946
00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:44,879
Speaker 1: that that was already.

947
00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:48,120
Speaker 2: There even like Frank Ocean. I feel like in early

948
00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:52,680
Speaker 2: Frank records he was like giving just little breadcrumbs and

949
00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:55,360
Speaker 2: seeds of like I'm in the closet.

950
00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:59,320
Speaker 1: How do you guys not realize this? Don't see this? Yeah?

951
00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:02,600
Speaker 2: Like he it was almost like straight up saying it,

952
00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:06,239
Speaker 2: and then we was just dancing like you just just

953
00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:08,879
Speaker 2: caught the lyric, like wait, then a blog post came

954
00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:10,640
Speaker 2: out of saying like, hey am I like guys, and

955
00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:11,680
Speaker 2: everyone's like what.

956
00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:14,160
Speaker 1: Right, and the whole time, this whole catalog.

957
00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:18,359
Speaker 2: Meanwhile, if that was a girl, female singer, she would

958
00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:18,960
Speaker 2: have just straight.

959
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:22,480
Speaker 1: Up said it right right. But the Frank Ocean record

960
00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:26,760
Speaker 1: was I don't because I don't remember even knowing until

961
00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:28,440
Speaker 1: after I listened to the album and then I went

962
00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:29,720
Speaker 1: back on the stage.

963
00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:34,919
Speaker 2: I feel like there was certain records that hinted yeah,

964
00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:38,560
Speaker 2: like he was getting into like you know, and again,

965
00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:40,239
Speaker 2: it's totally fine for too many to get married, but

966
00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:42,759
Speaker 2: it was just so out of context with like the

967
00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:44,959
Speaker 2: song where he was just like and to dude, should

968
00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:46,560
Speaker 2: get married, and it was like was.

969
00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:48,440
Speaker 1: That even like was that an accident?

970
00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:50,399
Speaker 2: He was like, He's like, there shouldn't be he said,

971
00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:52,959
Speaker 2: I don't believe a man has landed on the moon

972
00:45:53,239 --> 00:45:55,200
Speaker 2: and guys should get married, and it was like this

973
00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:55,760
Speaker 2: ship jamming.

974
00:45:56,880 --> 00:45:58,719
Speaker 1: It was like, you know, turn that ship up. Like

975
00:45:58,960 --> 00:46:02,040
Speaker 1: that was a little little left, but okay, it like

976
00:46:02,120 --> 00:46:04,359
Speaker 1: turn that ship up. And then like Thinking about You

977
00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:04,879
Speaker 1: came out.

978
00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:07,200
Speaker 2: I think it's like the first single of Channel Orange

979
00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:09,040
Speaker 2: or just the wreck the Lucy that ended up on there,

980
00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:12,879
Speaker 2: and there was some ship on there and I was like, okay, yeah,

981
00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:16,839
Speaker 2: all right, whatever this ship, this ship not. Then right

982
00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:21,080
Speaker 2: before the album, he was like listen, man, I like dudes, right,

983
00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:23,359
Speaker 2: and everyone's like, look at this marketing plan.

984
00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:25,719
Speaker 1: I'm like, fam. I think some people were like shut up,

985
00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:27,880
Speaker 1: no you don't. It was cod most people. Yeah. I

986
00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:29,439
Speaker 1: was like it's just shut up, no you don't.

987
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:32,520
Speaker 2: And then Forrest Gump came to Ultro when the album

988
00:46:32,560 --> 00:46:34,719
Speaker 2: came out of the blog post and he was like, hey,

989
00:46:34,719 --> 00:46:37,040
Speaker 2: Forrest Gumm dropped them fucking drugs.

990
00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:44,239
Speaker 1: And that ship was a gem. No it was. I

991
00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:48,160
Speaker 1: told a story about how I was in an uncompromising

992
00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:51,120
Speaker 1: position when that came on. I was in the shower

993
00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:54,960
Speaker 1: lathering myself and Forrest Gump started jamming in the I

994
00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:57,719
Speaker 1: don't feel like Forrest. I just we can't just go

995
00:46:57,800 --> 00:46:59,319
Speaker 1: to the next track. It was just like, yo, you

996
00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:02,239
Speaker 1: know what. Meanwhile that's the outro. Yeah, let me, let's

997
00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:03,840
Speaker 1: just go to the next joint. We ain't gotta we

998
00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:06,480
Speaker 1: ain't got to go to that record, you know. But again,

999
00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:09,359
Speaker 1: he's one of those artists too. That's just a man,

1000
00:47:09,560 --> 00:47:13,719
Speaker 1: of course. It's just I just, man, what is he on?

1001
00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:16,279
Speaker 1: Is he? Is he? Is he still recording? Is he?

1002
00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:19,600
Speaker 1: I'm sure he records. He was DJing, you know, it's

1003
00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:22,400
Speaker 1: kind of like he opened the club up. Yeah, like

1004
00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:26,480
Speaker 1: right before these different zones where it's just like that's dope.

1005
00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:28,480
Speaker 1: But you know, we would love some new music.

1006
00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:30,800
Speaker 2: But Frank, to me, is just one of the artists.

1007
00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:33,719
Speaker 2: So many artists pretend to be weird. I just think

1008
00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:36,440
Speaker 2: Frank is weird, and I mean I mean weird in

1009
00:47:36,440 --> 00:47:38,600
Speaker 2: a good way, like like a step pretend to be

1010
00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:40,680
Speaker 2: like I'm an artist, like and you're not like you're

1011
00:47:40,719 --> 00:47:41,959
Speaker 2: just gonna making music, You're not.

1012
00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:46,200
Speaker 1: Like that type of dirty nikes on that you ain't

1013
00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:49,160
Speaker 1: watch Air Force ones. Doesn't make it. I need more

1014
00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:53,399
Speaker 1: than just I'm a misunderstood artist. Yeah, go get a toothbrush,

1015
00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:58,160
Speaker 1: so clean, just like, it's fine, Yeah, it's okay, right, Frank,

1016
00:47:58,239 --> 00:48:01,680
Speaker 1: Frank is just Frank, just be honest his own time.

1017
00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:04,399
Speaker 1: I respect that though again same with the herd thing. Man,

1018
00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:06,560
Speaker 1: you move on your own accord and you keep the

1019
00:48:06,640 --> 00:48:10,000
Speaker 1: mistique about yourself and you don't, you know, not accessible.

1020
00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:11,680
Speaker 1: I like that. I think that's I think that's dope.

1021
00:48:11,719 --> 00:48:14,640
Speaker 2: We don't credit Frank enough for that. That highway robbery.

1022
00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:18,840
Speaker 2: He did well when he put line out, he owed,

1023
00:48:19,520 --> 00:48:22,239
Speaker 2: he owed def Jam two albums. That's when streaming was

1024
00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:25,839
Speaker 2: really starting to get kicking, and even streaming services weren't

1025
00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:28,360
Speaker 2: quite sure on how we should release things in a

1026
00:48:28,440 --> 00:48:31,040
Speaker 2: unique way. He was like, Yo, I'm about to build

1027
00:48:31,080 --> 00:48:34,759
Speaker 2: some steps for two hours. Yeah, and you're gonna play

1028
00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:37,560
Speaker 2: this album like, Frank, that's a new album, right, Like, yeah,

1029
00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:41,000
Speaker 2: here's the album. Three days later, Yo, here's my real album.

1030
00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:45,480
Speaker 2: Depth Jam deuces me building steps. That was the first one.

1031
00:48:45,600 --> 00:48:48,680
Speaker 2: I'm out my contract. That was the other sideway robbery.

1032
00:48:48,719 --> 00:48:51,279
Speaker 1: That was finally a loophole for sure. He definitely loved

1033
00:48:52,080 --> 00:48:54,520
Speaker 1: a time for that. No, that's that's incredible.

1034
00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:57,120
Speaker 2: But yeah, man, let's listen to our male artist. A

1035
00:48:57,160 --> 00:48:59,200
Speaker 2: lot of them are streaming for help. Future is not

1036
00:48:59,239 --> 00:48:59,839
Speaker 2: in a good place.

1037
00:48:59,880 --> 00:49:02,880
Speaker 1: Man. Pay attention to the lyrics. Listen, they're telling us.

1038
00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:05,799
Speaker 2: There's pain in those tweets. When Future is thanking each

1039
00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:08,239
Speaker 2: one of his baby mother's pain in there. We just

1040
00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:10,520
Speaker 2: got to see through the We know because we feel formed.

1041
00:49:10,640 --> 00:49:13,640
Speaker 2: We're like, damn, how many like ship?

1042
00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:16,360
Speaker 1: I was just at Bowery.

1043
00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:21,120
Speaker 2: They played a record that said, just just drank, Just

1044
00:49:21,160 --> 00:49:23,680
Speaker 2: took a perk, drank a gallon. Damn, my stomach hurt.

1045
00:49:24,120 --> 00:49:26,359
Speaker 2: And I was like, that's what's supposed to I was like, fam,

1046
00:49:27,320 --> 00:49:29,759
Speaker 2: that's what's supposed to happen when you take a perk

1047
00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:32,080
Speaker 2: and drink. And the record was fire, and it was

1048
00:49:32,120 --> 00:49:35,360
Speaker 2: the line where like everyone stopped what they was drinking

1049
00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:37,440
Speaker 2: to say the line too, And I was like, he

1050
00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:40,960
Speaker 2: should like stop, he needs to go to a doctor,

1051
00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:43,160
Speaker 2: like a gallon.

1052
00:49:42,840 --> 00:49:45,359
Speaker 1: Of lean with a perk. But that's what art is.

1053
00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:49,680
Speaker 1: His stomach might need the artist in our our joy.

1054
00:49:50,840 --> 00:49:54,440
Speaker 2: And then shortly after he told a woman give me

1055
00:49:54,440 --> 00:49:56,360
Speaker 2: my titties back, and I was back on board.

1056
00:49:57,320 --> 00:49:58,880
Speaker 1: He was working with him. I did some shit like

1057
00:49:58,920 --> 00:50:01,799
Speaker 1: this before. A girl that I dated, just strictly Dad

1058
00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:03,960
Speaker 1: wasn't a girlfriend. We went out a couple of times,

1059
00:50:04,400 --> 00:50:06,800
Speaker 1: and she was at a restaurant that I had introduced

1060
00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:09,560
Speaker 1: her to, and she said, she was like, yeah, I'm

1061
00:50:09,560 --> 00:50:11,319
Speaker 1: with this this new guy I'm seeing, Like, you know,

1062
00:50:11,800 --> 00:50:13,839
Speaker 1: the place is still amazing. Thank you for put me on.

1063
00:50:13,960 --> 00:50:16,879
Speaker 1: It was like that cool thing I did this fly ship.

1064
00:50:16,920 --> 00:50:20,120
Speaker 1: I called and picked up the check. Oh you know

1065
00:50:20,160 --> 00:50:24,560
Speaker 1: he'm not one of those dudes on Twitter. Yeah that guy?

1066
00:50:24,840 --> 00:50:26,440
Speaker 2: What No, I did that guy on Twitter is like

1067
00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:29,319
Speaker 2: seeing my ex with a new dude walked over said,

1068
00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:31,920
Speaker 2: don't even fat homie, and then gave it.

1069
00:50:35,440 --> 00:50:37,200
Speaker 1: But this was a girl. I really we were really cool,

1070
00:50:37,520 --> 00:50:39,000
Speaker 1: like that was really mine. Well, did you get the

1071
00:50:39,040 --> 00:50:42,880
Speaker 1: receipt of the check? No? Just how many entres? A right?

1072
00:50:42,880 --> 00:50:46,279
Speaker 2: If you would have guessed the breakdown the check was there?

1073
00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:47,280
Speaker 2: Was it to entres?

1074
00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:49,960
Speaker 1: Do you think? Oh? For sure? Absolutely? And you just

1075
00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:51,560
Speaker 1: assume maybe she got an entre to go to bring

1076
00:50:51,560 --> 00:50:54,920
Speaker 1: back to her mom. No, I got no. She told

1077
00:50:54,960 --> 00:50:57,160
Speaker 1: me she was okay. She told me she was on

1078
00:50:57,200 --> 00:50:58,680
Speaker 1: a date with a new guy. She was seeing it.

1079
00:50:59,480 --> 00:51:02,480
Speaker 1: And how quickly did you call the restaurant as soon

1080
00:51:02,520 --> 00:51:06,680
Speaker 1: as she texted me? She was texting during the date. Yeah,

1081
00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:08,640
Speaker 1: she texted me a while she was there and she

1082
00:51:08,719 --> 00:51:10,480
Speaker 1: was just let me know. She was we're cool, Like,

1083
00:51:10,520 --> 00:51:13,120
Speaker 1: there's no, it wasn't a weird thing. It was like,

1084
00:51:13,200 --> 00:51:14,960
Speaker 1: this is my homie, like, we're cool. You don't think

1085
00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:16,719
Speaker 1: you ever stepped your back? What if you were on

1086
00:51:16,800 --> 00:51:17,120
Speaker 1: a date.

1087
00:51:17,239 --> 00:51:21,280
Speaker 2: And when the manager came over and was like, uh, sorry,

1088
00:51:21,520 --> 00:51:24,959
Speaker 2: it's ready to take care of Jamal called so so look,

1089
00:51:25,200 --> 00:51:25,759
Speaker 2: this is the thing.

1090
00:51:25,880 --> 00:51:28,040
Speaker 1: We had this talk before and I was like, if

1091
00:51:28,080 --> 00:51:29,759
Speaker 1: you got someone got to get knocked out.

1092
00:51:29,800 --> 00:51:31,719
Speaker 2: If the manager is the first one there, exactly, he's

1093
00:51:31,719 --> 00:51:33,080
Speaker 2: gonna have to take the punch for exactly.

1094
00:51:33,080 --> 00:51:35,040
Speaker 1: So me and her had that talk before and I

1095
00:51:35,120 --> 00:51:37,200
Speaker 1: was like, yo, I would I would flip if a

1096
00:51:37,320 --> 00:51:39,359
Speaker 1: dude picked up my check while I'm out with a date.

1097
00:51:39,800 --> 00:51:43,640
Speaker 1: So I did that to her knowing that obviously the

1098
00:51:43,719 --> 00:51:45,600
Speaker 1: dude was gonna have something to say about it, like yo,

1099
00:51:45,680 --> 00:51:47,759
Speaker 1: wait what because any guy would be like what do

1100
00:51:47,800 --> 00:51:49,800
Speaker 1: you mean? Like who took care of this bill already?

1101
00:51:50,680 --> 00:51:52,600
Speaker 1: And so when she texted me, she was like, yo,

1102
00:51:52,680 --> 00:51:54,759
Speaker 1: you are crazy. And now we just laughed about it

1103
00:51:54,760 --> 00:51:57,040
Speaker 1: and that was it. You are crazy means you could

1104
00:51:57,960 --> 00:52:00,840
Speaker 1: come on, man, this is me. This is you know me,

1105
00:52:00,920 --> 00:52:03,600
Speaker 1: you talking to me, We talk, bro, we kick it. Yeah,

1106
00:52:03,680 --> 00:52:04,480
Speaker 1: you know what it means.

1107
00:52:04,520 --> 00:52:08,160
Speaker 2: Come on, man, I've ran into that same Bowery night,

1108
00:52:08,239 --> 00:52:12,160
Speaker 2: not a bowery an old fling that we're friends. And

1109
00:52:12,520 --> 00:52:14,360
Speaker 2: she said, I can't with you, and I was like,

1110
00:52:14,400 --> 00:52:15,960
Speaker 2: oh fuck, I can still be. I should get out

1111
00:52:15,960 --> 00:52:16,160
Speaker 2: of here.

1112
00:52:16,200 --> 00:52:19,120
Speaker 1: I can't with you. Yeah. My homeboy text me the

1113
00:52:19,120 --> 00:52:23,879
Speaker 1: other day. He made it. He made a revelation that

1114
00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:26,280
Speaker 1: I think was always sitting here that I always knew,

1115
00:52:26,280 --> 00:52:28,960
Speaker 1: but he the way he put it into words, it

1116
00:52:29,040 --> 00:52:33,200
Speaker 1: was like, you're absolutely right. And he said, if you're

1117
00:52:33,239 --> 00:52:35,799
Speaker 1: out with a woman, or you see a woman on

1118
00:52:35,840 --> 00:52:39,759
Speaker 1: her Instagram and she yells A when the music comes on,

1119
00:52:40,600 --> 00:52:45,600
Speaker 1: she's for the streets, there's something real to that. There's

1120
00:52:45,640 --> 00:52:48,360
Speaker 1: a percentage and it's not a hundred percent. That's a

1121
00:52:48,440 --> 00:52:50,800
Speaker 1: high percentage. There's something very real to that. Oh I

1122
00:52:50,840 --> 00:52:52,080
Speaker 1: don't know if we got enough time to day to

1123
00:52:52,080 --> 00:52:54,200
Speaker 1: talk about that, we can table that one. But there's

1124
00:52:54,239 --> 00:52:57,960
Speaker 1: something real to that. Yeah. I researched like seven that

1125
00:52:58,040 --> 00:52:59,719
Speaker 1: I know that are known for that standing on the

1126
00:52:59,760 --> 00:53:03,600
Speaker 1: couch yelling a and it's like, oh shit, this might

1127
00:53:03,640 --> 00:53:06,200
Speaker 1: be a real thing. But here's the thing.

1128
00:53:06,239 --> 00:53:08,000
Speaker 2: I feel like there's a lot of girls that we've

1129
00:53:08,040 --> 00:53:12,600
Speaker 2: looked at as super wholesome, like the fake stereotype wifey material.

1130
00:53:12,960 --> 00:53:16,239
Speaker 2: They went through an A phase. Okay, I think you

1131
00:53:16,280 --> 00:53:19,080
Speaker 2: can change that percentage the same way men can be

1132
00:53:19,239 --> 00:53:22,200
Speaker 2: hoes and become husbands as well. We can calm down

1133
00:53:22,239 --> 00:53:25,399
Speaker 2: and stop doing our bullshit. Let's not put how many

1134
00:53:25,400 --> 00:53:27,560
Speaker 2: whys you put on that that would.

1135
00:53:27,480 --> 00:53:30,920
Speaker 1: Judge the difference between it's gonna make her to get

1136
00:53:30,920 --> 00:53:33,840
Speaker 1: out the A face, yeah, the length of it, the tone,

1137
00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:38,800
Speaker 1: what song it is, what song, what she's what she's drinking.

1138
00:53:38,680 --> 00:53:41,239
Speaker 2: Listen if it's if it's dreams and Nightmares meek and

1139
00:53:41,280 --> 00:53:45,480
Speaker 2: she does an A, there's hope that record's. Oh, I'm

1140
00:53:45,520 --> 00:53:47,200
Speaker 2: not mad at her A in that right, I might

1141
00:53:47,200 --> 00:53:49,960
Speaker 2: even A with you on that record. If it's a

1142
00:53:49,960 --> 00:53:52,359
Speaker 2: poolsheisty record and she's thirty.

1143
00:53:52,120 --> 00:53:58,319
Speaker 1: Let her enjoy life, let her go, let her go, Yes,

1144
00:53:58,440 --> 00:54:00,680
Speaker 1: it might be real. Try to take her home and

1145
00:54:00,760 --> 00:54:05,160
Speaker 1: make her anything other than the A girl. Yeah, you

1146
00:54:05,160 --> 00:54:06,719
Speaker 1: know what I mean. Just leave it there.

1147
00:54:06,760 --> 00:54:09,000
Speaker 2: We should deep dive pause later. Let keep that one

1148
00:54:09,680 --> 00:54:11,440
Speaker 2: and I out quickly because we do have to wrap up.

1149
00:54:12,200 --> 00:54:13,960
Speaker 2: I was saying years and years and years ago, and

1150
00:54:13,960 --> 00:54:16,759
Speaker 2: I was actually meant that off our last topic. I

1151
00:54:16,840 --> 00:54:21,040
Speaker 2: did bring a girl that I was talking to, fake serious,

1152
00:54:21,080 --> 00:54:23,920
Speaker 2: we weren't in a relationship or anything but talking. I

1153
00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:28,360
Speaker 2: did bring her and introduce her to a circle of people, okay,

1154
00:54:29,360 --> 00:54:32,919
Speaker 2: guided her through that circle, helped her in decision making

1155
00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:35,719
Speaker 2: because there was work involved with the circle. And she

1156
00:54:35,840 --> 00:54:38,840
Speaker 2: did end up sleeping with somebody in that circle. And

1157
00:54:38,920 --> 00:54:40,879
Speaker 2: I was not mad because she slept with that person

1158
00:54:40,880 --> 00:54:42,040
Speaker 2: because we were no longer talking.

1159
00:54:42,080 --> 00:54:44,760
Speaker 1: She ain't do no foul shit. Oh so you stay together,

1160
00:54:45,120 --> 00:54:46,759
Speaker 1: and then you brought her around and she slept with

1161
00:54:46,880 --> 00:54:48,680
Speaker 1: somebody else to late brought her around later.

1162
00:54:48,760 --> 00:54:53,120
Speaker 2: Okay, I was kind of shocked by I thought I

1163
00:54:53,160 --> 00:54:56,319
Speaker 2: was more secure. I felt away, not because she fucked them.

1164
00:54:56,440 --> 00:54:59,480
Speaker 2: I felt away because I introduced you to this fucking circlet.

1165
00:55:00,120 --> 00:55:02,880
Speaker 1: You gotted you, We're gonna get you stop. I felt

1166
00:55:02,880 --> 00:55:05,359
Speaker 1: away because this is we got it. We don't have time,

1167
00:55:05,560 --> 00:55:07,799
Speaker 1: we got it, we gotta wrap. But we're gonna get

1168
00:55:07,800 --> 00:55:09,360
Speaker 1: back into I promise you we're gonna get back into that,

1169
00:55:09,400 --> 00:55:13,960
Speaker 1: because that's real. Absolutely, Because again I didn't mind he

1170
00:55:14,000 --> 00:55:16,200
Speaker 1: beat I'm like, but you know, what put you in this?

1171
00:55:16,520 --> 00:55:19,120
Speaker 1: I know what you mean. I know this was my guidance.

1172
00:55:19,360 --> 00:55:21,759
Speaker 1: I know exactly what you mean. So, yeah, you're you

1173
00:55:21,840 --> 00:55:24,799
Speaker 1: feel in the type of way you You thought that

1174
00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:26,440
Speaker 1: there's no way you would ever feel a type of

1175
00:55:26,480 --> 00:55:29,520
Speaker 1: way about something like that until wait, we wasn't sleeping

1176
00:55:29,520 --> 00:55:32,000
Speaker 1: together no more like but it's just it's just the

1177
00:55:32,040 --> 00:55:36,439
Speaker 1: fact that I bought you around this and and how

1178
00:55:36,600 --> 00:55:39,680
Speaker 1: casually she said it to me bothered me too. Damn,

1179
00:55:39,719 --> 00:55:41,520
Speaker 1: we don't got Sometimes I like to be.

1180
00:55:41,520 --> 00:55:44,680
Speaker 2: Lied to or at least led into the truth a

1181
00:55:44,719 --> 00:55:47,160
Speaker 2: little easier, Like you should walk on the eggshells a

1182
00:55:47,160 --> 00:55:49,480
Speaker 2: little bit around me, just even if you don't feel

1183
00:55:49,480 --> 00:55:51,160
Speaker 2: you need to, just to make me feel a little

1184
00:55:51,160 --> 00:55:52,840
Speaker 2: bit better, like I do still have an ego to

1185
00:55:52,880 --> 00:55:56,239
Speaker 2: some degree. Yeah, I felt away. She just catch like,

1186
00:55:56,239 --> 00:55:57,160
Speaker 2: oh yeah, and I did funk.

1187
00:55:57,200 --> 00:56:00,520
Speaker 1: I was like, all right, but why did you Okay, so,

1188
00:56:00,920 --> 00:56:02,640
Speaker 1: but why do you think you felt some way? Did

1189
00:56:02,640 --> 00:56:05,680
Speaker 1: you feel away because of who she fucked? No? At

1190
00:56:05,680 --> 00:56:08,319
Speaker 1: the casual way in which I liked gentlemen. I'm cool

1191
00:56:08,360 --> 00:56:12,680
Speaker 1: with the gentleman. Okay. We just saw the gentleman in La. Okay.

1192
00:56:12,719 --> 00:56:14,359
Speaker 1: There so a lot of gentlemen in atlant I don't even

1193
00:56:14,360 --> 00:56:17,279
Speaker 1: want to think about it, but you okay, So I'm

1194
00:56:17,280 --> 00:56:19,120
Speaker 1: cool with him. I with him, and I'm not wouldn't

1195
00:56:19,160 --> 00:56:21,480
Speaker 1: have been mad if he beat so period felt you

1196
00:56:21,480 --> 00:56:23,800
Speaker 1: felt some type of way because of what? Because she

1197
00:56:24,000 --> 00:56:26,440
Speaker 1: just as casual as she said it. Not even if

1198
00:56:26,480 --> 00:56:28,239
Speaker 1: me introducing didn't bother me as much.

1199
00:56:28,280 --> 00:56:31,239
Speaker 2: The fact that I guided you through work decisions that

1200
00:56:31,360 --> 00:56:32,880
Speaker 2: led you into this circle.

1201
00:56:32,920 --> 00:56:36,400
Speaker 1: You feel like you set you set the kiddy up,

1202
00:56:36,880 --> 00:56:39,680
Speaker 1: like you put thinking like but you thought you were

1203
00:56:39,760 --> 00:56:41,920
Speaker 1: just doing a southd even if you're not talking no more,

1204
00:56:41,920 --> 00:56:43,799
Speaker 1: that's still my people. She would never do that. Now,

1205
00:56:43,800 --> 00:56:45,360
Speaker 1: Do you feel the type of way because he didn't

1206
00:56:45,360 --> 00:56:47,600
Speaker 1: tell you? No, he didn't owe me to tell me that. No,

1207
00:56:47,640 --> 00:56:49,640
Speaker 1: not that he owed you anything, but just the fact

1208
00:56:49,640 --> 00:56:50,080
Speaker 1: that he didn't.

1209
00:56:51,360 --> 00:56:53,080
Speaker 2: And she said, she said to me, oh, I assumed

1210
00:56:53,080 --> 00:56:56,040
Speaker 2: he told you already. He was like, oh see, But

1211
00:56:56,040 --> 00:56:58,120
Speaker 2: that's why I asked you because and look, if he

1212
00:56:58,160 --> 00:56:59,279
Speaker 2: would have said that to me, I would look at

1213
00:56:59,320 --> 00:57:01,360
Speaker 2: him wird think that if you bring a girl around,

1214
00:57:01,560 --> 00:57:04,200
Speaker 2: right and I know she's with you, I know y'all

1215
00:57:04,200 --> 00:57:04,800
Speaker 2: have history.

1216
00:57:04,800 --> 00:57:07,080
Speaker 1: Whatever y'all may have done. What y'all done, and me

1217
00:57:07,120 --> 00:57:08,960
Speaker 1: and her end up having our time together in our

1218
00:57:09,000 --> 00:57:13,319
Speaker 1: moments and intimacy. You were not asking brothers, right, I

1219
00:57:13,320 --> 00:57:16,720
Speaker 1: don't think so. God again, I don't we continue. I'm sorry,

1220
00:57:16,760 --> 00:57:18,360
Speaker 1: we'd have to really have like a real, like in

1221
00:57:18,440 --> 00:57:21,240
Speaker 1: depth talk, which is fine too. It's just how it

1222
00:57:21,320 --> 00:57:24,560
Speaker 1: happens and why it happened. I just want home me

1223
00:57:24,640 --> 00:57:27,040
Speaker 1: to tell me it happened because of work, work that

1224
00:57:27,160 --> 00:57:30,560
Speaker 1: I helped put decisions and like put yo do this,

1225
00:57:30,960 --> 00:57:32,560
Speaker 1: like I get it. So you feel like it was

1226
00:57:32,600 --> 00:57:35,560
Speaker 1: just a little too then I was sneaky.

1227
00:57:35,640 --> 00:57:38,200
Speaker 2: Maybe then I was like, damn, maybe I should have

1228
00:57:38,640 --> 00:57:40,320
Speaker 2: just like guided her in the wrong direct.

1229
00:57:40,400 --> 00:57:42,560
Speaker 1: No, no, no, you can't think like that. No. See,

1230
00:57:42,560 --> 00:57:46,360
Speaker 1: that's some suck like that. You always stand on what

1231
00:57:46,400 --> 00:57:48,200
Speaker 1: you did, of course, like you did the right thing.

1232
00:57:48,600 --> 00:57:51,040
Speaker 1: And by the way, the split decision that ended up

1233
00:57:51,080 --> 00:57:55,880
Speaker 1: her in that circle for that gig was the right decision.

1234
00:57:56,560 --> 00:57:59,560
Speaker 1: That ship helped her immensely. Yes, that's what you rest

1235
00:57:59,600 --> 00:58:00,760
Speaker 1: your had and she would have been.

1236
00:58:00,720 --> 00:58:02,720
Speaker 2: Fine to her talent is great. I'm not saying anything

1237
00:58:02,760 --> 00:58:04,320
Speaker 2: like I put her on it that way. It was

1238
00:58:04,360 --> 00:58:07,160
Speaker 2: just like, damn, you came to me for guidance, and

1239
00:58:07,240 --> 00:58:09,000
Speaker 2: I was like, yo, you should go do that, and

1240
00:58:09,480 --> 00:58:10,400
Speaker 2: then she really did that.

1241
00:58:13,160 --> 00:58:15,120
Speaker 1: She went and did it. Yeah, No, I mean, I

1242
00:58:15,240 --> 00:58:17,080
Speaker 1: understand me. I just meant the gig. I didn't mean

1243
00:58:17,440 --> 00:58:19,400
Speaker 1: I know. I just think that. I think that the

1244
00:58:19,440 --> 00:58:21,560
Speaker 1: homie in that situation, though, he owes you a little

1245
00:58:21,560 --> 00:58:23,200
Speaker 1: bit to tell you though, like I don't even know

1246
00:58:23,200 --> 00:58:26,360
Speaker 1: if he really know how close we was. So I

1247
00:58:26,720 --> 00:58:29,720
Speaker 1: I never looked for you met if you introduced me

1248
00:58:29,760 --> 00:58:32,760
Speaker 1: to a girl, but you and I have friends. Him

1249
00:58:32,760 --> 00:58:35,880
Speaker 1: and I associates difference. Yeah, but still I think that

1250
00:58:35,960 --> 00:58:37,640
Speaker 1: you still would be like, yo, you know sure, Yo,

1251
00:58:37,760 --> 00:58:40,200
Speaker 1: she's cool. Me and her hung out a couple say something.

1252
00:58:40,200 --> 00:58:42,280
Speaker 1: You don't got to say, yo, son, I killed from

1253
00:58:42,280 --> 00:58:43,840
Speaker 1: the back and you ain't got to get into all that,

1254
00:58:44,160 --> 00:58:45,600
Speaker 1: but you could at least say, like, yo, you know

1255
00:58:45,600 --> 00:58:46,960
Speaker 1: me and have been kicking it. We hung out a

1256
00:58:47,000 --> 00:58:49,240
Speaker 1: few times that my man, no, my male.

1257
00:58:49,520 --> 00:58:51,440
Speaker 2: I would have been hurt, and I guess instead of

1258
00:58:51,480 --> 00:58:53,600
Speaker 2: expressing my true feelings, I would have been like, where

1259
00:58:53,680 --> 00:58:54,240
Speaker 2: ishit crazy?

1260
00:58:54,320 --> 00:58:56,760
Speaker 1: Right? Meanwhile, I'm like he cried on the inside. You

1261
00:58:58,120 --> 00:58:59,720
Speaker 1: ya bent her over? Right?

1262
00:59:00,120 --> 00:59:00,280
Speaker 2: Oh?

1263
00:59:00,280 --> 00:59:03,600
Speaker 1: You know it's crazy right? Like that right? Me? Michael.

1264
00:59:05,680 --> 00:59:08,200
Speaker 1: How could she do that with him too? Yeah, yeah,

1265
00:59:08,320 --> 00:59:11,560
Speaker 1: it's not just you. I thought I was special. Oh man,

1266
00:59:11,920 --> 00:59:15,080
Speaker 1: you do that with every guy. That's real though, that's

1267
00:59:15,080 --> 00:59:15,520
Speaker 1: a real thing.

1268
00:59:15,560 --> 00:59:18,040
Speaker 2: I gotta stop believing women when they talk while they

1269
00:59:18,040 --> 00:59:20,880
Speaker 2: have sex with me. That might be a good ending.

1270
00:59:21,040 --> 00:59:25,440
Speaker 1: Listen, man, the Sons I got them in Uh, I

1271
00:59:25,480 --> 00:59:28,000
Speaker 1: got the Sons in five. I think Chris Paul comes back.

1272
00:59:28,520 --> 00:59:30,800
Speaker 1: I think Kawhi is done for the season. They're just

1273
00:59:30,840 --> 00:59:32,880
Speaker 1: not announcing it yet. I think his a cl might

1274
00:59:32,920 --> 00:59:37,480
Speaker 1: be slightly torn or sprained and they don't want to

1275
00:59:37,840 --> 00:59:39,520
Speaker 1: they don't want to risk it or whatever. So I

1276
00:59:39,560 --> 00:59:41,480
Speaker 1: think I think Kawhi is done. I did have the

1277
00:59:41,480 --> 00:59:44,040
Speaker 1: Clippers winning it if Kawhi played. I think there's only

1278
00:59:44,760 --> 00:59:48,160
Speaker 1: four guys in the league that will win the championships

1279
00:59:48,160 --> 00:59:55,400
Speaker 1: and the foreseeable future. Brown, Katie, Kawhi. I'm gonna even

1280
00:59:55,400 --> 00:59:57,720
Speaker 1: put Stephanie. I think a healthy Warriors team is gonna

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00:59:57,760 --> 01:00:00,680
Speaker 1: still be dangerous in the playoffs. So I think Steph, Kawhi,

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01:00:00,760 --> 01:00:04,960
Speaker 1: Katie and Brown are the ones that will own the

1283
01:00:05,000 --> 01:00:08,240
Speaker 1: trophies for the foreseeable future. But uh, you know, in

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01:00:08,280 --> 01:00:10,800
Speaker 1: this in this playoff series, I do think that Kawhi

1285
01:00:10,880 --> 01:00:14,040
Speaker 1: is done, so hopefully I'm hoping that Chris Paul gets

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01:00:14,040 --> 01:00:16,680
Speaker 1: his first ring. I hope that too. I like Chris Paul, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I like. I like this Son's team. I said last

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01:00:18,680 --> 01:00:21,040
Speaker 1: year on air, and Katie killed me about it. I said,

1289
01:00:21,080 --> 01:00:24,480
Speaker 1: Chris Paul should have gotten more, you know, votes for MVP.

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01:00:24,960 --> 01:00:28,280
Speaker 1: Everybody laughed at me. I said, he took a team

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Speaker 1: like the OKC Thunder to the playoffs that had a

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01:00:30,760 --> 01:00:33,440
Speaker 1: zero percent chance of making the playoffs before the season started.

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01:00:34,520 --> 01:00:36,280
Speaker 1: But again I was laughed out of the room. I

1294
01:00:36,280 --> 01:00:38,520
Speaker 1: feel like Chris Paul should have gotten more MVP votes

1295
01:00:38,560 --> 01:00:42,720
Speaker 1: this season, but the more important trophy is the championship

1296
01:00:42,760 --> 01:00:45,240
Speaker 1: trophy for Chris Paul. So I do hope that the

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01:00:45,280 --> 01:00:49,040
Speaker 1: Sons finished this thing out and uh and win a title.

1298
01:00:49,120 --> 01:00:52,680
Speaker 1: I think Devin Booker is uh. It's I think everybody

1299
01:00:52,720 --> 01:00:55,440
Speaker 1: can see it. He's cut from that Kobe Cloth just

1300
01:00:55,520 --> 01:00:59,080
Speaker 1: his uh intensity, his game. He's not afraid of anybody.

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01:00:59,120 --> 01:01:01,480
Speaker 1: I see him getting into you know, he's getting into

1302
01:01:01,480 --> 01:01:03,439
Speaker 1: it with everybody and you don't care who you are,

1303
01:01:03,920 --> 01:01:06,120
Speaker 1: you don't care what your your resume is in the league.

1304
01:01:06,200 --> 01:01:08,120
Speaker 1: Like he just feels like he's the best player on

1305
01:01:08,120 --> 01:01:11,040
Speaker 1: the floor at all times. Now. So I got the

1306
01:01:11,040 --> 01:01:15,400
Speaker 1: Phoenix Suns winning it all. I got the Suns Atlanta

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01:01:15,560 --> 01:01:19,560
Speaker 1: and Milwaukee played. Yeah, Atlanta won trade trade. Trey Young is.

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01:01:19,480 --> 01:01:24,360
Speaker 2: Still Listen, Man, I hated Trey Young when he was

1309
01:01:24,360 --> 01:01:26,160
Speaker 2: playing the Knicks for for obvious reasons.

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01:01:26,200 --> 01:01:27,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, I should have on him the entire time. She

1311
01:01:27,760 --> 01:01:30,600
Speaker 1: got to respect. I take every I'm rooting for him. Yeah,

1312
01:01:30,600 --> 01:01:32,560
Speaker 1: you gotta respect him. He's a he's a he's another one.

1313
01:01:32,600 --> 01:01:35,600
Speaker 1: The future of the NBA is bright, Like the future is bright.

1314
01:01:35,680 --> 01:01:37,880
Speaker 1: The future is bright for the NBA. I got Atlanta

1315
01:01:37,960 --> 01:01:42,520
Speaker 1: winning this series. I think a healthy Brooklyn team obviously

1316
01:01:42,560 --> 01:01:44,640
Speaker 1: would have would have beaten the Bucks, but you know,

1317
01:01:44,720 --> 01:01:48,080
Speaker 1: unfortunately they would hers and man, Katie blacked out doing

1318
01:01:48,080 --> 01:01:50,360
Speaker 1: that series. So yeah, I mean he I think that

1319
01:01:50,600 --> 01:01:52,840
Speaker 1: Nash just I gotta I put a lot of that

1320
01:01:52,880 --> 01:01:55,520
Speaker 1: on Steve Nash. I think Steve Nash had to trust

1321
01:01:55,840 --> 01:01:58,200
Speaker 1: his bench a little more. I think it's some guys

1322
01:01:58,200 --> 01:02:02,080
Speaker 1: that should have gotten some playing time playing Kadi fifty

1323
01:02:02,120 --> 01:02:04,120
Speaker 1: three minutes and then forty eight minutes and all of that.

1324
01:02:04,120 --> 01:02:06,760
Speaker 1: That's that's too much. I mean, I get it. It's

1325
01:02:06,800 --> 01:02:09,360
Speaker 1: a you know, a big important game and you need

1326
01:02:09,400 --> 01:02:12,760
Speaker 1: to start player out there, but you gotta find six minutes,

1327
01:02:12,800 --> 01:02:15,080
Speaker 1: seven minutes for him to rest and you know, try

1328
01:02:15,120 --> 01:02:17,840
Speaker 1: to catch his win. But again they were hurt. So

1329
01:02:17,840 --> 01:02:21,200
Speaker 1: I understand that whole situation was just different, and rotations

1330
01:02:21,240 --> 01:02:24,520
Speaker 1: obviously were different, and you were asked to play guys

1331
01:02:24,520 --> 01:02:26,040
Speaker 1: that you didn't think you would have to play, and

1332
01:02:26,760 --> 01:02:29,720
Speaker 1: the series was too close. But yeah, Milwaukee, I don't

1333
01:02:29,720 --> 01:02:31,880
Speaker 1: think they can can handle the pace of Atlanta, the

1334
01:02:32,120 --> 01:02:36,080
Speaker 1: shooting of Atlanta. So yeah, I got I got Atlanta

1335
01:02:36,080 --> 01:02:37,760
Speaker 1: winning the series. I got the Sons in Atlanta in

1336
01:02:37,800 --> 01:02:40,720
Speaker 1: the in the finals, but I got the Sons winning it.

1337
01:02:40,760 --> 01:02:42,400
Speaker 1: Though I'd like to see.

1338
01:02:42,320 --> 01:02:45,280
Speaker 2: Chris Bowlin, so yeah, I like to see Chris and

1339
01:02:45,320 --> 01:02:48,680
Speaker 2: just hopes, hopes and and shit seen Tray in the

1340
01:02:48,720 --> 01:02:49,439
Speaker 2: finals be great.

1341
01:02:49,680 --> 01:02:51,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's gonna be. I think it's gonna

1342
01:02:51,200 --> 01:02:53,600
Speaker 1: be exciting to see you know, young guards like that

1343
01:02:53,680 --> 01:02:56,520
Speaker 1: Devin Booker and Trey Young and it's good to see

1344
01:02:56,520 --> 01:02:58,640
Speaker 1: those guys you know, on that stage go at it.

1345
01:02:58,840 --> 01:03:01,600
Speaker 1: I think I think it's what the game needs. You

1346
01:03:01,640 --> 01:03:03,680
Speaker 1: need that new young blood that's gonna go out there

1347
01:03:03,720 --> 01:03:06,640
Speaker 1: and just you know, play as hard as they can

1348
01:03:06,720 --> 01:03:08,800
Speaker 1: and display their talents, and then it's dope to see

1349
01:03:08,840 --> 01:03:10,760
Speaker 1: the fans back in the in the in the arenas

1350
01:03:11,360 --> 01:03:15,320
Speaker 1: have that energy back. But yeah, I'm a root for

1351
01:03:15,360 --> 01:03:17,080
Speaker 1: the Soun's room for Chris Paul and Devin Booker.

1352
01:03:17,320 --> 01:03:20,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, and just to close, I think we want Atlanta

1353
01:03:20,760 --> 01:03:22,720
Speaker 2: in the finals because I think we should record, Like

1354
01:03:22,720 --> 01:03:24,720
Speaker 2: if Atlanta go to the finals, we would have to

1355
01:03:24,720 --> 01:03:25,400
Speaker 2: go down to Atlanta.

1356
01:03:25,400 --> 01:03:27,600
Speaker 1: We getting trade on the show, and even if we don't,

1357
01:03:27,640 --> 01:03:30,080
Speaker 1: and even if we don't, we're still getting We're still

1358
01:03:30,080 --> 01:03:32,160
Speaker 1: filming in Atlanta. It doesn't it doesn't matter, Like, yeah,

1359
01:03:32,160 --> 01:03:34,400
Speaker 1: we should just be by the culture, you know. Yeah,

1360
01:03:34,600 --> 01:03:40,040
Speaker 1: shout out to Shikari Richardson. Listen. I'm a huge, huge

1361
01:03:40,080 --> 01:03:43,720
Speaker 1: fan of hers. I love everything that she represents. I

1362
01:03:43,720 --> 01:03:46,760
Speaker 1: love everything that she she she she stands for. I

1363
01:03:46,800 --> 01:03:49,720
Speaker 1: love her spirit, I love her energy, I love her fight,

1364
01:03:49,840 --> 01:03:54,000
Speaker 1: I love her mindset. I just that's everything about it.

1365
01:03:54,080 --> 01:03:55,400
Speaker 1: Her is amazing.

1366
01:03:55,720 --> 01:03:59,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, she's and to be running the hundred at that height,

1367
01:03:59,240 --> 01:04:02,400
Speaker 2: at that speed is she's a She's a fucking insane.

1368
01:04:02,640 --> 01:04:06,200
Speaker 1: People that don't really She's an amazing, incredible athlete that

1369
01:04:06,360 --> 01:04:09,160
Speaker 1: we don't see often, if at all.

1370
01:04:09,280 --> 01:04:14,000
Speaker 2: And and gonna make like with boat retiring and you

1371
01:04:14,040 --> 01:04:18,440
Speaker 2: know that that energy around the Olympics and track in general,

1372
01:04:18,520 --> 01:04:20,960
Speaker 2: just because it's not like a sport everyone runs to,

1373
01:04:21,240 --> 01:04:23,160
Speaker 2: no pun intended runs to go listen to her part

1374
01:04:23,160 --> 01:04:26,880
Speaker 2: and watch. Having her there just brings all that energy back,

1375
01:04:26,920 --> 01:04:29,680
Speaker 2: like she's good for the entire sport. Yeah, like she's

1376
01:04:29,720 --> 01:04:32,880
Speaker 2: gonna make the ship fun again to watch with the

1377
01:04:32,920 --> 01:04:38,040
Speaker 2: Tyson Gays, Asama Powells, Usain boats all retiring. Shout out

1378
01:04:38,080 --> 01:04:42,760
Speaker 2: to Justin Gatlin, thirty eight years old, going back fucking insane.

1379
01:04:43,640 --> 01:04:45,760
Speaker 2: I'm really excited for the Olympics this year. Yeah, I

1380
01:04:45,800 --> 01:04:49,400
Speaker 2: think this ship is gonna be insane to watch. Kars

1381
01:04:49,560 --> 01:04:53,760
Speaker 2: has some work cut out for her, and Fraser ain't

1382
01:04:54,000 --> 01:04:54,800
Speaker 2: somebody to play with.

1383
01:04:55,520 --> 01:04:56,080
Speaker 1: She's the goat.

1384
01:04:56,280 --> 01:04:58,520
Speaker 2: But it will be fun. And I love that this

1385
01:04:58,640 --> 01:05:02,240
Speaker 2: year women's trying will be way more fun to watch

1386
01:05:02,280 --> 01:05:04,040
Speaker 2: than men's and men's will be fun too, but I

1387
01:05:04,080 --> 01:05:06,360
Speaker 2: like that the attention will be over here. Yeah, it's

1388
01:05:06,440 --> 01:05:07,960
Speaker 2: it's gonna be a fun summer.

1389
01:05:08,040 --> 01:05:12,680
Speaker 1: The woman that dominating simone manual and swimming, she's dominating

1390
01:05:12,800 --> 01:05:15,800
Speaker 1: another black another black woman that We're rooting for uh,

1391
01:05:16,120 --> 01:05:21,680
Speaker 1: Simon Booles obviously and and gymnasts, and she's probably I

1392
01:05:22,040 --> 01:05:25,520
Speaker 1: got her as the greatest Olympian I think some say

1393
01:05:25,560 --> 01:05:29,240
Speaker 1: Michael Phelps. Yeah, you know, but I'm gonna go with

1394
01:05:29,280 --> 01:05:31,640
Speaker 1: Simone Boos, so it's gonna be funny.

1395
01:05:32,760 --> 01:05:35,480
Speaker 2: I have Alison Felix pretty high with with her metal

1396
01:05:35,520 --> 01:05:38,480
Speaker 2: count in that talk too. Another another one great to

1397
01:05:38,480 --> 01:05:42,520
Speaker 2: see still just at a kid married, came right back,

1398
01:05:42,600 --> 01:05:45,840
Speaker 2: still going to the Olympics. She's been one of my

1399
01:05:45,880 --> 01:05:49,840
Speaker 2: crushes for a decade. I love Alison Felix. Yeah, so yeah,

1400
01:05:49,960 --> 01:05:53,560
Speaker 2: I'm excited watch as people know. I'm a big track fan.

1401
01:05:53,480 --> 01:05:55,840
Speaker 1: Rooting for everyone black. That's what I'm on.

1402
01:05:56,440 --> 01:05:58,560
Speaker 2: And we'll see what Ireland does in the Summer Games.

1403
01:06:00,200 --> 01:06:01,920
Speaker 2: I'm sure y'all give it a fighting chance.

1404
01:06:05,640 --> 01:06:09,600
Speaker 1: Oh man, Yeah, that T shirt just doesn't hit the

1405
01:06:09,640 --> 01:06:12,840
Speaker 1: same you know. Yeah, it's not quite there. Hey, I

1406
01:06:12,880 --> 01:06:15,560
Speaker 1: definitely can't get that off. I'm rooting for everyone Irish. Yeah,

1407
01:06:15,680 --> 01:06:19,200
Speaker 1: it's like, oh we respected though, but yeah, okay cool.

1408
01:06:19,400 --> 01:06:24,040
Speaker 2: But yeah, sleeper picks, I think give us one more

1409
01:06:24,040 --> 01:06:26,400
Speaker 2: week to put something. I want to put something together

1410
01:06:26,480 --> 01:06:29,240
Speaker 2: proper that will be easier for you guys to even

1411
01:06:29,600 --> 01:06:32,280
Speaker 2: listen to these records rather than just read it on

1412
01:06:32,360 --> 01:06:35,640
Speaker 2: a description or a snippet, right to be able to

1413
01:06:35,720 --> 01:06:37,680
Speaker 2: listen to this podcast and then go right into something

1414
01:06:37,720 --> 01:06:38,959
Speaker 2: where you can listen to sleeper picks.

1415
01:06:39,000 --> 01:06:40,959
Speaker 1: So give us a second. I want to do this proper,

1416
01:06:41,280 --> 01:06:43,440
Speaker 1: build it out the same way. You know.

1417
01:06:43,720 --> 01:06:45,840
Speaker 2: I'm not telling anyone to bear with us, but we're

1418
01:06:45,880 --> 01:06:49,800
Speaker 2: just getting our footing in our rotation and schedule with

1419
01:06:50,120 --> 01:06:52,280
Speaker 2: the stuff that we shot already, the stuff that we'll

1420
01:06:52,280 --> 01:06:53,800
Speaker 2: be shooting, you know, per week.

1421
01:06:54,160 --> 01:06:56,720
Speaker 1: So it's gonna beautiful. It's gonna beautiful, really, but they

1422
01:06:56,720 --> 01:06:59,160
Speaker 1: should definitely people should definitely listen to sy put out

1423
01:06:59,200 --> 01:07:04,040
Speaker 1: another dope project, s Not Sorry. He's on a he's

1424
01:07:04,080 --> 01:07:07,800
Speaker 1: just in his zone. Man. I hit him today and

1425
01:07:07,880 --> 01:07:09,960
Speaker 1: just told him, like, yo, another dope project. Man, Like

1426
01:07:10,520 --> 01:07:12,720
Speaker 1: I really listened to it throughout the week, and I'm

1427
01:07:12,760 --> 01:07:16,280
Speaker 1: just like, damn, Like he's really in a nice zone

1428
01:07:16,400 --> 01:07:19,240
Speaker 1: of just creating music and creating his sound like he's

1429
01:07:19,240 --> 01:07:21,800
Speaker 1: super dope. So shout out to Sary the Kid, Shout

1430
01:07:21,800 --> 01:07:25,640
Speaker 1: out to his new project, Sary Not Sorry. Uh skat

1431
01:07:25,800 --> 01:07:30,200
Speaker 1: Zoo hasn't missed His new album is really really good

1432
01:07:30,320 --> 01:07:31,520
Speaker 1: shout out to SKay Zoo.

1433
01:07:31,440 --> 01:07:36,960
Speaker 2: And more on the Wrap tip. Not for nothing, Rosenberg

1434
01:07:37,040 --> 01:07:41,240
Speaker 2: might might have a case in that rap album of

1435
01:07:41,280 --> 01:07:42,800
Speaker 2: the Year talk.

1436
01:07:42,840 --> 01:07:44,760
Speaker 1: At least I know.

1437
01:07:44,840 --> 01:07:46,680
Speaker 2: I know people won't want to say it, so I'll

1438
01:07:46,720 --> 01:07:49,400
Speaker 2: be the one to say it. That Rosenberg album is fire.

1439
01:07:50,800 --> 01:07:51,720
Speaker 2: He can make a case.

1440
01:07:52,360 --> 01:07:53,560
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm not mad at that.

1441
01:07:54,360 --> 01:07:58,959
Speaker 2: Go back and listen to that. Yeah, he put together

1442
01:07:59,040 --> 01:07:59,520
Speaker 2: a joint.

1443
01:08:00,160 --> 01:08:03,160
Speaker 1: Okay, I'll check it out. I mean, I heard it,

1444
01:08:03,240 --> 01:08:05,000
Speaker 1: but now that you're giving it all of that, I'm

1445
01:08:05,000 --> 01:08:08,360
Speaker 1: gonna go back and check it out. Yeah. I've been

1446
01:08:09,120 --> 01:08:12,240
Speaker 1: oddly on just my wrap ship lately. I gotta get

1447
01:08:12,240 --> 01:08:14,720
Speaker 1: back on my R and B wave. But there's been

1448
01:08:14,760 --> 01:08:17,200
Speaker 1: some great, great, real rap type of ship coming out,

1449
01:08:17,280 --> 01:08:19,439
Speaker 1: So your Wrap is in a good space obviously. I

1450
01:08:19,439 --> 01:08:22,680
Speaker 1: still think Mark my Com is the wrap out right now.

1451
01:08:22,760 --> 01:08:24,160
Speaker 1: I agree one.

1452
01:08:24,240 --> 01:08:26,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think this Rosenberg album, though he definitely has

1453
01:08:26,479 --> 01:08:28,240
Speaker 2: a case to talk. At the end of the year,

1454
01:08:30,800 --> 01:08:32,400
Speaker 2: Banks has been on a fucking repeat.

1455
01:08:32,479 --> 01:08:32,679
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1456
01:08:32,960 --> 01:08:37,360
Speaker 2: I can't say enough about that joint. So Dirk Dirk

1457
01:08:37,680 --> 01:08:40,000
Speaker 2: shit is great, Yeah.

1458
01:08:39,800 --> 01:08:41,040
Speaker 1: Man Dirk and Little Baby.

1459
01:08:42,400 --> 01:08:46,040
Speaker 2: But yeah, well, but we'll have something for y'all as

1460
01:08:46,040 --> 01:08:49,599
Speaker 2: far as sleeper picks go very very soon, So unless

1461
01:08:49,640 --> 01:08:50,559
Speaker 2: you got something else.

1462
01:08:52,520 --> 01:08:56,080
Speaker 1: Anymore, nothing else. Some of summertime in New York City

1463
01:08:56,160 --> 01:08:58,880
Speaker 1: is back. Everyone, be safe everyone, you know. I don't

1464
01:08:58,880 --> 01:09:01,679
Speaker 1: know if social distancing is still the thing, but I'll

1465
01:09:01,680 --> 01:09:04,040
Speaker 1: be having my mask on and shot elevators and airplanes

1466
01:09:04,040 --> 01:09:06,760
Speaker 1: for the rest of my life. And that's just me.

1467
01:09:07,760 --> 01:09:09,960
Speaker 2: I feel you all right, everyone, have a good week.

1468
01:09:10,680 --> 01:09:12,599
Speaker 2: Look out for some other content. We got some guest

1469
01:09:12,640 --> 01:09:16,720
Speaker 2: shit coming to some more sketches, so yes, we will

1470
01:09:16,760 --> 01:09:19,559
Speaker 2: see you guys on the YouTube page and the audio

1471
01:09:19,640 --> 01:09:24,639
Speaker 2: shit like subscribe Apple, Spotify, SoundCloud. We'll get on Google

1472
01:09:24,760 --> 01:09:28,040
Speaker 2: very very soon for audio stuff. And yeah, watch that

1473
01:09:28,040 --> 01:09:28,799
Speaker 2: shit on YouTube.

1474
01:09:33,680 --> 01:09:35,240
Speaker 1: No Willian Mound