1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:05,360 Speaker 1: Are you going happy Friday? Yeah, we gotta cooking here today. 2 00:00:07,600 --> 00:00:12,799 Speaker 1: Bago questions, what did you see from Kevin Harris in 3 00:00:12,840 --> 00:00:16,120 Speaker 1: the preseason in terms of his running style and where 4 00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:18,439 Speaker 1: he might be able to contribute coming up to the 5 00:00:18,680 --> 00:00:22,520 Speaker 1: roster um. Yeah, well, so it goes Mike um but no, 6 00:00:22,840 --> 00:00:25,919 Speaker 1: you know random ball, Well all security wasn't very good. 7 00:00:26,040 --> 00:00:29,120 Speaker 1: Hopefully that's better. He's worked at it, he knows that. 8 00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:33,239 Speaker 1: So it's probably the player at South Carolina that's approach 9 00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:41,319 Speaker 1: on preseason. So it goes if a players listened as 10 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:43,760 Speaker 1: questionable today, what do you have to see from them 11 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:46,800 Speaker 1: today or tomorrow? And where for them to be upgraded 12 00:00:46,840 --> 00:00:54,080 Speaker 1: to active for Sunday. So players listed as questionable on 13 00:00:54,280 --> 00:00:57,240 Speaker 1: injury report today, you don't talking about practice, You're talking 14 00:00:57,240 --> 00:01:00,440 Speaker 1: about the game injury report. Correct. Maybe we follow the 15 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:03,440 Speaker 1: NFL rules on that. So whatever the player's status is, 16 00:01:03,440 --> 00:01:07,360 Speaker 1: wherever he falls, whatever category it is, and we'll list 17 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:13,480 Speaker 1: him appropriately and make a decision whenever that decision can 18 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:19,200 Speaker 1: be made. Sometimes it's a game time decision. Sometimes a 19 00:01:19,240 --> 00:01:22,600 Speaker 1: player could be listed like that and even if it 20 00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:26,480 Speaker 1: was healthy, not be activated because of the number of 21 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:29,520 Speaker 1: activations that we have to have based on for competitive reasons, 22 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:31,679 Speaker 1: not in jue reasons, but we still have to We 23 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:33,720 Speaker 1: have to list everybody based on the NFL rules, So 24 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:37,280 Speaker 1: that's what we do. Then if they're out, then they're out, 25 00:01:37,319 --> 00:01:40,000 Speaker 1: And if they're not out, then we can make a 26 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 1: decision competitively whether that person, well they won't play. Gotcham. 27 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 1: I know that the last speak you said Mac Jones 28 00:01:51,440 --> 00:01:54,520 Speaker 1: was a lot better than the previous Friday. How has 29 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 1: he been looking this week to you? And then also 30 00:01:56,760 --> 00:01:58,640 Speaker 1: because we haven't really been able to talk to him 31 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:00,760 Speaker 1: over the last couple of weeks, how has he been 32 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:07,480 Speaker 1: handling his first major injury? Yeah, I think is making 33 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:11,799 Speaker 1: good improvement and we'll see where he is today. Certainly 34 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:13,560 Speaker 1: he's doing a lot more of this Friday than or 35 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:17,359 Speaker 1: less Thursday than last Thursday. I imagine Friday the same thing. 36 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 1: But I mean, we'll see again. It's all if a 37 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:32,240 Speaker 1: player has an injury, he goes out and does whatever 38 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:37,800 Speaker 1: he's capable or instructed to do, and then we see 39 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:40,760 Speaker 1: how how he responds and what happens. And nobody knows 40 00:02:40,760 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 1: the answer to that question. So if the next day 41 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:48,040 Speaker 1: he feels better, then he does more. The next day 42 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:52,799 Speaker 1: he doesn't feel better, as soreness or whatever. Then we 43 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:57,240 Speaker 1: back off and then try it again. Once he feels that, 44 00:02:57,320 --> 00:03:00,400 Speaker 1: we're at the next rated. So it's a process of steps. 45 00:03:00,880 --> 00:03:02,960 Speaker 1: When you go one step, then you go the next step, 46 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:04,600 Speaker 1: and then if you can't make it through that step, 47 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:07,359 Speaker 1: or then you step back, and then you step through 48 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:11,480 Speaker 1: it again. So nobody knows how they're going to feel 49 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:14,680 Speaker 1: tomorrow after what they do today. I don't know how 50 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 1: anybody's going to feel that are in that category. We'll 51 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:21,440 Speaker 1: see where it is. It's better on Saturday than it 52 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:24,520 Speaker 1: was on Friday, then maybe it's a game day workout. 53 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 1: It's worse than would Din grade the player. If it 54 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 1: feels great today and tomorrow feels great, then we're good 55 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 1: to go. But that's why Saturday is an important day 56 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:39,640 Speaker 1: in this whole process. I mean, I know everybody has 57 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:43,360 Speaker 1: a definite answer, but it's just totally unrealistic to be 58 00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:46,000 Speaker 1: able to do that. I don't know how player is 59 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:48,000 Speaker 1: going to feel after three days of practice, depending on 60 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:51,440 Speaker 1: what the volume is or the intensity is. That's impossible 61 00:03:51,480 --> 00:03:55,320 Speaker 1: to know that until you actually experience it, or he 62 00:03:55,400 --> 00:04:02,280 Speaker 1: experiences it. So we'll see you, thank you. That's why 63 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:07,960 Speaker 1: I prefer going day by day took the words right 64 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:11,680 Speaker 1: out of my mouth. I've tried to avoid that phrase 65 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:14,480 Speaker 1: for give it a little break. I think I maximized 66 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:18,080 Speaker 1: it there and give that a break for a few days, 67 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:24,719 Speaker 1: but maybe coming back. Thank you. So you're welcome, Bill, 68 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:26,400 Speaker 1: You didn't men you mentioned a couple of weeks ago. 69 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:29,120 Speaker 1: You know, obviously whether or not he's actually ready to 70 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:32,000 Speaker 1: play is up to the medical staff and to him, 71 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:35,600 Speaker 1: I think he said. But then if he's deep ready 72 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:37,360 Speaker 1: to go, then it's you know, it's a it's a 73 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:40,559 Speaker 1: huge decision. We want this player at x percent versus 74 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:44,839 Speaker 1: another player at a different percentage. Is that decision yours 75 00:04:45,080 --> 00:04:48,920 Speaker 1: at this point or not yet? Alright, So we're using 76 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:50,839 Speaker 1: a lot of pronouns here, so I assume we're just 77 00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:53,599 Speaker 1: talking generically. We're not talking about any specific player, which 78 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:56,400 Speaker 1: it will be pointless to talk about any specific player, 79 00:04:57,200 --> 00:05:03,719 Speaker 1: but in general. Yeah, but in general, until the player 80 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:08,480 Speaker 1: is medically cleared to play, then there's no coaching decision involved. 81 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:11,719 Speaker 1: Once the player has been medically cleared to play, then 82 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:14,560 Speaker 1: I would say, in consultation with the player and the 83 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:17,279 Speaker 1: medical step, it's what is the player being asked to do? 84 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:22,120 Speaker 1: So Kicker has a sore leg, and he's in the 85 00:05:22,520 --> 00:05:25,760 Speaker 1: decision as well. You know, he kick field goals up 86 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:27,520 Speaker 1: to a certain range, wouldn't be able to kick off 87 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:31,840 Speaker 1: all right? Then as a coach, then that's your decision, 88 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:35,400 Speaker 1: and you could say, okay, well we'll take this player 89 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:37,800 Speaker 1: at let's call it eighty percent, and here's what his 90 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:40,599 Speaker 1: field goal range would be eighty percent, and he's not 91 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:45,279 Speaker 1: going to kick off and play under those circumstances, assuming 92 00:05:45,320 --> 00:05:49,920 Speaker 1: that the player also felt comfortable doing that, right. So 93 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:52,760 Speaker 1: that's kind of would be an example of a player 94 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:56,919 Speaker 1: playing at less than one hundred percent but functional to 95 00:05:57,160 --> 00:05:59,480 Speaker 1: a point understanding that you're gonna have to get somebody 96 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:00,800 Speaker 1: else to kick off and you're not going to be 97 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:04,200 Speaker 1: trying you know, maximum like field goals. That would be 98 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:06,640 Speaker 1: an example. So just put that into some other position, 99 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:09,839 Speaker 1: take some other player, and have the same conversation if 100 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:13,040 Speaker 1: it gets to that point, right, So that would be 101 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:18,800 Speaker 1: the hypothetical situation. So I think it's easier to say 102 00:06:18,839 --> 00:06:20,800 Speaker 1: that with you know, talk about that with a kickers 103 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:23,039 Speaker 1: a very specific job, rather than get into somebody else 104 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:26,000 Speaker 1: if like, you know, it's an offensive guard and you 105 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:28,000 Speaker 1: can all run so fast straight ahead how much is 106 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:29,840 Speaker 1: you can pull you know what I mean? Like that 107 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:32,359 Speaker 1: that gets into like a whole another rabbit hole that 108 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:35,120 Speaker 1: I mean, none of us want to go down. I 109 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:37,840 Speaker 1: guess the better way to ask my question would be, 110 00:06:38,400 --> 00:06:40,120 Speaker 1: can you tell us if he's been cleared? Or is 111 00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:41,880 Speaker 1: that to kind of fall up when Chelsea's question, is 112 00:06:41,880 --> 00:06:45,160 Speaker 1: that something that wouldn't happen until Saturday? You know it 113 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:49,240 Speaker 1: could happen any time. There's no like deadline on that. 114 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:53,440 Speaker 1: The injury report is the injury report. There's a deadline 115 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:55,320 Speaker 1: on that, and there's a classification on that, and that's 116 00:06:55,320 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 1: what we follow. Internally. We can do whatever we want 117 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:02,880 Speaker 1: based on the information, not do whatever we want, but 118 00:07:02,920 --> 00:07:06,360 Speaker 1: based on the information it's available, we can make, you know, 119 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:11,800 Speaker 1: make any determination that's appropriate. Again, part of that is 120 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:14,960 Speaker 1: how a player feels what he's able to do, what 121 00:07:15,080 --> 00:07:18,160 Speaker 1: he's not able to do, what the recovery from what 122 00:07:19,480 --> 00:07:25,240 Speaker 1: his previous output was or wasn't. So, but now I'm 123 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:27,280 Speaker 1: not going into like what we have internally we talk 124 00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:31,000 Speaker 1: about the players and all that and no, definitely definitely 125 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:34,600 Speaker 1: not doing that feeling. You forget about that, but that 126 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:36,440 Speaker 1: you file that I'll do right there to give it 127 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:40,200 Speaker 1: the opportunity. I appreciate that, I really do. I sincerely 128 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:44,720 Speaker 1: appreciate the opportunity to to talk about max medical status. 129 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 1: But I'll let skip that. I'll pass on, but thank 130 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:55,800 Speaker 1: you for the opportunity. Yeah, okay, I'll sure. Bill Jacobe 131 00:07:55,880 --> 00:07:57,960 Speaker 1: came back last week, was real productive. It seems like 132 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:00,360 Speaker 1: he's productive with every quarterback he plays with. And what 133 00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:02,480 Speaker 1: was that to say about him and his developments as 134 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:06,280 Speaker 1: he's been here. Yeah, Jacoby's development, Um, you know, as 135 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:08,600 Speaker 1: a players like honestly, we've had a lot of guys 136 00:08:08,640 --> 00:08:11,239 Speaker 1: like that, but come in as a rookie free agent, 137 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:16,640 Speaker 1: expectations are you know low immediately, but then as things 138 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:22,680 Speaker 1: start to improve, um, such as his blocking um and 139 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:28,760 Speaker 1: his you know, overall route running and instinctive and savvyists. 140 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:30,840 Speaker 1: I mean, kind of different, but kind of like Edelman 141 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:33,760 Speaker 1: in the development of Sanders, the same player, they're not, 142 00:08:34,280 --> 00:08:36,520 Speaker 1: but you know, Edelman is a guy who didn't play 143 00:08:36,600 --> 00:08:41,199 Speaker 1: much for a while and then became a great, great 144 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:43,680 Speaker 1: receiver here one of the most dependable players who've ever had. 145 00:08:44,200 --> 00:08:46,760 Speaker 1: That certainly wasn't a case in year two or year 146 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:50,679 Speaker 1: three as he was in that developing stage. So yeah, 147 00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:52,680 Speaker 1: we've seen that from play of guys. And again it's 148 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 1: it's hard work. It's taken the the coaching and the 149 00:08:56,520 --> 00:09:01,600 Speaker 1: instruction and applying it to fundamentals to understanding our offense, 150 00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:05,720 Speaker 1: to understanding the opponent's defense and leverage and spacing and 151 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:09,800 Speaker 1: things like that, which players like Julian and Jacoby are 152 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:12,679 Speaker 1: both good examples of the players who played quarterback the 153 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:15,120 Speaker 1: cover good they were weren't a quarterback, I'm not, that's 154 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:17,520 Speaker 1: not really the point. The point is that they've seen 155 00:09:17,760 --> 00:09:20,600 Speaker 1: the ball come in from their hand as opposed to 156 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:23,560 Speaker 1: always being on the receiving end of it and kind 157 00:09:23,559 --> 00:09:25,800 Speaker 1: of where you wouldn't want, wouldn't want to throw. And 158 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:28,760 Speaker 1: what helps the receiver, how receiver can help a quarterback, 159 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:31,480 Speaker 1: or how receiver can kind of fool a quarterback and 160 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:33,120 Speaker 1: make it heart for the quarterback to throw to him. 161 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:34,959 Speaker 1: So I think, you know, in terms of being quarterback friendly, 162 00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:39,240 Speaker 1: let's call it. You know, that's something that kind of say, 163 00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:42,400 Speaker 1: came naturally to him. But now Jacob's worked extremely hard. 164 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:48,520 Speaker 1: He's developed route running concepts and techniques at multiple positions 165 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:54,319 Speaker 1: inside outside play action, dropback quicker throws, you know, no 166 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:56,000 Speaker 1: one when he has more time to operate no one 167 00:09:56,040 --> 00:09:59,120 Speaker 1: when he has to get open quicker, things like that, 168 00:09:59,640 --> 00:10:03,520 Speaker 1: based either in the timing to play the situation. So 169 00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:07,480 Speaker 1: he's a very smart, savvy football player on a lot 170 00:10:07,480 --> 00:10:09,199 Speaker 1: of levels, not just in the passing game and the 171 00:10:09,280 --> 00:10:13,800 Speaker 1: running game, UM and in another formationing and things like that. 172 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:19,800 Speaker 1: So yeah, it's been a great, great time of growth 173 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:22,360 Speaker 1: for him, and it's it's really fun to see guys 174 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:26,880 Speaker 1: you developed like that come in and not not be 175 00:10:27,040 --> 00:10:29,960 Speaker 1: very far along, but then progressively just keep stacking and 176 00:10:29,960 --> 00:10:33,880 Speaker 1: stacking and stacking and stacking. Miles is another guy like that, 177 00:10:34,040 --> 00:10:38,079 Speaker 1: you know, at a complimentary position, same thing free agent 178 00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:40,840 Speaker 1: didn't expect much, played a little bit inside. You don't 179 00:10:40,840 --> 00:10:44,360 Speaker 1: know he ended up this year, you know, playing safety, 180 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:49,600 Speaker 1: playing outside, returning punts, um, broadening his skills and improving 181 00:10:49,679 --> 00:10:53,880 Speaker 1: his overall physical makeup like Jacoby has stronger, faster, you know, 182 00:10:53,920 --> 00:10:56,880 Speaker 1: et cetera. So yeah, I think you watched guys developed 183 00:10:56,880 --> 00:10:59,200 Speaker 1: like that. It's really it's fun to watch and it's 184 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:00,679 Speaker 1: a real credit to them out of work in time 185 00:11:00,760 --> 00:11:04,960 Speaker 1: they put into it. Question, But Pierre Strong, did he 186 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:07,360 Speaker 1: profile as someone who could be used on first and 187 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:10,480 Speaker 1: second down or is he more or down receiving back 188 00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:16,080 Speaker 1: role coming in here. Yeah. Well again, when you look 189 00:11:16,080 --> 00:11:18,760 Speaker 1: at a player like that that you know came from 190 00:11:18,920 --> 00:11:20,960 Speaker 1: the jump from where he played to where he is now, 191 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:24,480 Speaker 1: it's honestly kind of hard to know for sure until 192 00:11:24,520 --> 00:11:27,560 Speaker 1: you actually work with the player. But you know, Pierre's 193 00:11:27,559 --> 00:11:30,360 Speaker 1: got a good skill set. Um, he doesn't have a 194 00:11:30,360 --> 00:11:33,040 Speaker 1: lot of experience, He's gained a lot of experience since 195 00:11:33,040 --> 00:11:36,680 Speaker 1: he's been Herebody has a long way to go. Obviously, 196 00:11:36,679 --> 00:11:38,960 Speaker 1: the passing game is a lot harder for backs than 197 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:42,720 Speaker 1: the running game because of all the different things that 198 00:11:42,760 --> 00:11:44,480 Speaker 1: can happen in the passing game and other stuff in 199 00:11:44,520 --> 00:11:46,480 Speaker 1: the running game too, but it's a little more natural 200 00:11:46,559 --> 00:11:48,440 Speaker 1: of you know, getting the ball and running with it, 201 00:11:49,679 --> 00:11:51,640 Speaker 1: which I would say that needs a lot of refinement 202 00:11:51,679 --> 00:11:55,440 Speaker 1: with most backs in general. But in the passing game, 203 00:11:55,640 --> 00:11:59,960 Speaker 1: the different let's pick up assignments, the different blitzing techniques 204 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:02,960 Speaker 1: that the linebackers or secondary players used that there have 205 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:05,960 Speaker 1: to block is usually something that's usually pretty foreign to 206 00:12:06,080 --> 00:12:09,440 Speaker 1: him or they lack experience with. And of course you 207 00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:13,720 Speaker 1: have the whole passing game of getting out into the 208 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:16,719 Speaker 1: pattern based on whether an assignment was assignment comes or 209 00:12:16,760 --> 00:12:18,480 Speaker 1: doesn't come trying to figure out what he's doing and 210 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:21,960 Speaker 1: then how to run routes based on coverage, leverage and 211 00:12:23,120 --> 00:12:25,560 Speaker 1: where the help is or isn't sitting down versus keeping 212 00:12:25,640 --> 00:12:30,640 Speaker 1: going and you know, throttling and versus accelerating things like 213 00:12:30,679 --> 00:12:36,880 Speaker 1: that that are very specific to the leverage and location 214 00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:39,720 Speaker 1: of the defenders. And so a player like James White 215 00:12:39,760 --> 00:12:44,240 Speaker 1: or Kevin falk Well, Kevin Larana got here. But like 216 00:12:44,240 --> 00:12:46,480 Speaker 1: even James White, you know, would be a player that 217 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:51,360 Speaker 1: became a lead at that, wasn't that when he started, 218 00:12:52,080 --> 00:12:54,400 Speaker 1: was pretty good at it, how to natural feel for it, 219 00:12:54,440 --> 00:12:57,560 Speaker 1: and then became a lead at it for another player 220 00:12:57,640 --> 00:13:00,800 Speaker 1: to go from there to let's say where James White 221 00:13:00,880 --> 00:13:05,320 Speaker 1: or Kevin fall or players like that are. That's you know, 222 00:13:05,520 --> 00:13:08,600 Speaker 1: like that's a long longer jump than I would say, 223 00:13:08,720 --> 00:13:13,680 Speaker 1: you know, being a productive ball carrier. So but Pierre's faust, 224 00:13:13,720 --> 00:13:16,520 Speaker 1: He's got good size, he works hard, he's a smart kid. 225 00:13:17,080 --> 00:13:18,880 Speaker 1: He's had a lot of production in the running game 226 00:13:18,920 --> 00:13:23,079 Speaker 1: in college. So glad we have him keep working with him, 227 00:13:23,520 --> 00:13:27,320 Speaker 1: I can progress and let's see how it goes all right, Okay, 228 00:13:27,360 --> 00:13:29,480 Speaker 1: all right, thank you thanks again, phill appreciate