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Speaker 1: What's debating my almost certainly hopeless opponents of a fascist monster.

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Speaker 1: I'm Robert Evans. This is normally Behind the Bastards, the

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Speaker 1: podcast where we talk about the worst people in all

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Speaker 1: of history. But we're doing nothing like that today. Today,

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Speaker 1: as prep for the election podcast that Cody Johnston, Katie

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Speaker 1: Stole and I will be launching in the worst year ever,

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Speaker 1: we are doing an episode covering the Democratic debates, which

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Speaker 1: could not be further from the premise of my show

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Speaker 1: because none of the people involved in the debates, regardless

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Speaker 1: of my issues with them, individually, qualify as true bastards.

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Speaker 1: But it's an hour or so of free contents, like

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Speaker 1: what are you gonna do? You whine at me? Already

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Speaker 1: gave you two episodes about bastards this week, Like this

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Speaker 1: is just deal with it. He can't hear you, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I can't hear you. Like complain more, but please please

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Speaker 1: do listen to the podcast. I love all of you. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: where we just thought we would get the ball rolling

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Speaker 1: on our eventual show. Yeah, we're trying to figure out

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Speaker 1: exactly what it's going to be so that we we

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Speaker 1: aren't just throwing another nonsense political podcast into a crowded

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Speaker 1: field of misery that makes everyone hate themselves. So like

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Speaker 1: the candidates, like the candidates, and debates themselves. So this

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Speaker 1: is a little bit of a refining process. It's kind

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Speaker 1: of like, if you're shooting missiles at the Moon, you're

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Speaker 1: gonna hit Mars a couple of times. It's just hard.

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Speaker 1: It's hard to hit the moon with a missiles. Kind

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Speaker 1: the next missile we fire will be closer to the moon.

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Speaker 1: I don't know why I'm comparing this tow missiles, Jupiter

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Speaker 1: or Manhattan. Yep, okay, classic one to those are the options.

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Speaker 1: Ye hey, everybody, one way or the other. You heard

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Speaker 1: either Katie and Cody's intro or my intro. And now

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Speaker 1: with the actual podcast is starting, and I arrogantly grabbed

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Speaker 1: You know we're here, we're in it, We're with you now,

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Speaker 1: all right, we'll talk about the debates. Guys, who I

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Speaker 1: want to know? First off? Who surprised you? Who were

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Speaker 1: you discounting? And then you came into it and you're like, wow, man,

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Speaker 1: moderating a political thing has never happened. We need roots. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: human being hear something and be like, well fuck it,

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Speaker 1: we got to take action this, this can't be allowed

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Speaker 1: to happen. Yeah. Absolutely, yes, I create all completely. I

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Speaker 1: think it's funny. At some pointed out I think this

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Speaker 1: is perfect that so like Kamal took a moment to

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Speaker 1: call Joe Biden racist, Well, she said, I'm not calling

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Speaker 1: you racis. And if you guys need reminding, this was

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Speaker 1: about the issue about bussing students and how how how

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Speaker 1: Biden was against bussing and children into different districts. If

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Speaker 1: I'm not mistaken, she was supposed to have had a

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Speaker 1: thirty second time or on that. Nobody even thoughts about that.

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Speaker 1: I love that. I was. I was like, well, she

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Speaker 1: blew past for a while, it's are they going to stop?

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Speaker 1: That was well done to say like, well, this is

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Speaker 1: the moment that we need to let breathe. I feel

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Speaker 1: like Walter Cronkite's ghost would write you down for trying

444
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Speaker 1: to stop that questioning that would that would have been

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Speaker 1: the most embarrassing moment if if someone tried to stop

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Speaker 1: her from let her speak, Like God, Chuck, shut the

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Speaker 1: funk up. But he didn't do was yeah to hut

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Speaker 1: In Todd's credit, Chuck Todd was like, yeah, this needs

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Speaker 1: to happen. Chuck Todd's credit, he didn't do anything. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so the best thing he's done is not anything. Um

451
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Speaker 1: but I think all this is really funny that in

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Speaker 1: response to that, so obviously Joe Biden got really really mad,

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Speaker 1: but like so she called him racist and then in

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Speaker 1: response he called her a cop. Yeah. It's like, oh, so,

455
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Speaker 1: like you're just like living Twitter out right now. Like

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Speaker 1: you're doing it all. I would have loved it if

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Speaker 1: Joe Biden. The only thing you could have gotten it

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Speaker 1: to get my my support after that is if he'd

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Speaker 1: called her a cop, put on a black mask, and

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Speaker 1: then spray painted the Antifa, that would have been amazing. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: just just fucking Joe Biden goes like full banks e. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think he really did a bad job tonight. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: he wasn't He wasn't great. I mean after that, like

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Speaker 1: there was no going background because it made him so mad,

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Speaker 1: I think, and even before that, before that, and again

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Speaker 1: in terms of like theoretically things that he could have

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Speaker 1: done during my support if he'd just been like, you're right.

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Speaker 1: I came up in a different era. I learned things

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Speaker 1: that were wrong, and I was wrong then and you

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Speaker 1: are right now. Let me explain why I still think

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Speaker 1: I can do a good job as president. And that's human.

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Speaker 1: That's why the night well, the night before when Tulsea

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Speaker 1: talked about this, and we've got the various opinions, but

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Speaker 1: like saying, like I think a lot of people watching

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Speaker 1: can relate to growing up in a conservative household and

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Speaker 1: growing and change your mind, and I was like, that

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Speaker 1: is exactly what you say as someone who hate like

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Speaker 1: I hate Tulsa Gabard. I also grew up hating gay

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Speaker 1: people because of how I was raised, and I identified

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Speaker 1: with that statement, and that was a very good way

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Speaker 1: for her to answer. That's how you address it, because

482
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Speaker 1: because it's true, yeah, or people and hiding for hiding

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Speaker 1: from it is a real mistake handled that question about

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Speaker 1: the shootings in his town. And at the start at

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Speaker 1: in to it, yes, I completely agree, um, but that

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Speaker 1: was human and honest and him saying like, I don't

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Speaker 1: know this is this is a nightmare and it's very difficult.

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Speaker 1: We could I couldn't get it, I said, I couldn't

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Speaker 1: get That gutted me a little bit. I was like,

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Speaker 1: not gutted me, but hit me in a way of

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Speaker 1: like I just so deeply appreciated saying And this is

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Speaker 1: where so I'm getting a little bit like off here,

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Speaker 1: but this is where I get to like the fundamental

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Speaker 1: issue of of of the still king, the lurking ghost

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Speaker 1: of authoritarianism that is at the core of every system

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Speaker 1: in the world that's still left over the days when

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Speaker 1: we were ruled by kings. The fact that an acceptable

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Speaker 1: answer that question wouldn't have been Buddaget going. We couldn't

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Speaker 1: get it done. This is a nightmare. Nobody knows how

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Speaker 1: to fix this entirely, and the only answer will come

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Speaker 1: from sustained, long term nationwide dialogue to figure out how

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Speaker 1: to fix this problem, because it's not a problem that

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Speaker 1: can be solved by a person at the top. It's

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Speaker 1: a problem that starts from the bottom and percolates up,

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Speaker 1: like the solution starts from the bottom and percolates. That's

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Speaker 1: we'll see. That's another reason why Mary Ann Williamson was like,

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Speaker 1: she's she's right. Was the one when she said that.

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Speaker 1: I was like, why are you derailing? This is weird?

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Speaker 1: And then she got to it was like, oh, she's right.

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Speaker 1: That is it's exactly what you just said. When she

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Speaker 1: was talking about how like it's not just I mean,

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Speaker 1: it seemed like it was sort of getting into like

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Speaker 1: a holistic medicine where she she went to some weird digressions,

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Speaker 1: but like the idea of and she also called like

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Speaker 1: universal health care and like whether I have medical for

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Speaker 1: all that's like superficial solutions, which I don't necessarily agree with,

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Speaker 1: but like the idea of just like degree with that right,

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Speaker 1: But like, why do people get sick? Why do we

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Speaker 1: have these problems? What are the roots of these problems?

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Speaker 1: And we have to we have to be able to

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Speaker 1: talk and and really explore what causes the problems that

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Speaker 1: we're making policies to solve the symptoms of that. She

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Speaker 1: doesn't she doesn't think she's gonna win, and I don't think,

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Speaker 1: you know, I think us the ensley of this of

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Speaker 1: the second like knows he's not going to be the

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Speaker 1: presidential candidate. He just wants to make sure climate change

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Speaker 1: gets talked about. They're all they're all doing the gravel

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Speaker 1: thing or and it might take a while for that

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Speaker 1: to seep in, but it is true. What are the

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Speaker 1: other things that are factoring into this bigger problem? Can

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Speaker 1: I throw in a free at plug? Sure? Try sandwiches

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Speaker 1: They're great, They're just great. Yeah, any sandwich really good

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Speaker 1: concept bread and then things in between the great idea.

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Speaker 1: Try a sandwich. I want to talk about Elizabeth Warren.

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Speaker 1: I love talking about Elizabeth Warren. Are you a couple

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Speaker 1: of Warren bros? Yes, babe, No, I am You're nothing.

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Speaker 1: Comprehensively planned out and logical solutions to basic problems, Bro

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Speaker 1: wild wild stuff a problem. She's got a plan for that.

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Speaker 1: It's not the number of plots that she has plans for,

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Speaker 1: it's that she specifically the things that she's focused on

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Speaker 1: most seemed to be like breaking up big tech all

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Speaker 1: the fucking Nazis, which literally has a billboard that says

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Speaker 1: break up big Tech. Like it's so simple. Yeah good,

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Speaker 1: it's also real quick, just something that's been bothering me.

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Speaker 1: Um because like the whole breaking up big tech and

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Speaker 1: and that is I think an issue that everyone can

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Speaker 1: kind of come together. It's the right and the left thing.

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Speaker 1: It's extremely frustrating to watch that the rights concerned about

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00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:35,119
Speaker 1: big tech is solely about conservatives being censored because would

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Speaker 1: like everyone else to be banned from existing, right, Like

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Speaker 1: I know why. It's like not the right, it's but

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00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:45,120
Speaker 1: the people who are part of that grift are literal

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Speaker 1: Nazis in many cases, right, And like there's a there's

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Speaker 1: a clear like goal um and mission from a lot

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Speaker 1: of them. But like just like you see Ted Cruz

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Speaker 1: and he's he's like in in uh in the hearing

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Speaker 1: and he's like concerns sounds. It's like no, no no, no,

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Speaker 1: that's not the reason. Like there. It's just very bizarre,

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00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:07,800
Speaker 1: and it's not the reason because like David NewART, who

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Speaker 1: is like, one of the things I do for a

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00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:12,200
Speaker 1: living is anti fascist research. David NewART is the very

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Speaker 1: best of us who got banned from Twitter for the

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Speaker 1: fact that his book cover had a stylized image of

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Speaker 1: a guy in a clan hood on it because this

565
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Speaker 1: book is about racist groups in America, and he got

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Speaker 1: banned from Twitter for weeks. Like David knew, it's not

567
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Speaker 1: a conservative. The problem isn't that Twitter bands conservatives. The

568
00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:28,440
Speaker 1: problem is that Twitter's decisions as to who to ban

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Speaker 1: are completely consistent, have nothing to do with their actual

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Speaker 1: written rules, and are often done by random robots and

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Speaker 1: then justified post facto by individual human beings trying to

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Speaker 1: avoid like making a bad news cycle. And that's dumb.

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Speaker 1: Agree completely. We're talking about Elizbeth Warren. I'm sorry for

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Speaker 1: Elizabeth Warren. Okay, So in terms of her debate performance,

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Speaker 1: I feel personally that she stood out, you know, different phrases,

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Speaker 1: heads and shoulders, miles ahead of all the other candidates.

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Speaker 1: She is the person that answers the fun in question.

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Speaker 1: That is true, she answers the question question she doesn't pivot.

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Speaker 1: You see, some are like it's so basic, but everybody

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Speaker 1: else will take it and pivot to something that feel

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Speaker 1: comfortable talking about. It makes me, even Bernie he did

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Speaker 1: it tonight, makes me people avoid talking about a race

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Speaker 1: racial issue to start talking about, you know, your comfort

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Speaker 1: zone and it's he's got the message that he sticks

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Speaker 1: to and why they want you to do that, but

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Speaker 1: it's it's not authentic and you're not actually you're not

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Speaker 1: answering whenever. You know, there were so many times when

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Speaker 1: like one of the modern is just like, Okay, I'm

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Speaker 1: going to give you twelve more seconds. Do you wanna

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Speaker 1: answer the direct question? Like they like, I love the

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Speaker 1: wording because that really do you want to answer? The

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Speaker 1: direct question? Was said a lot like the phrase direct

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Speaker 1: brother and Elizabeth to Elizabeth Warren. And you mentioned, you

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Speaker 1: know that moment with Kamala you see her her humanness

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Speaker 1: in that moment. But I I felt that with Elizabeth

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Speaker 1: Warren on most of her answers that I wasn't just

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Speaker 1: looking at a politician. And we talked about this earlier,

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Speaker 1: how maybe she didn't always have the canned line answer. No,

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Speaker 1: she did, So if I were to like evalue Elizabeth

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Speaker 1: warren'shul performance. Her her first answer and her last answer,

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Speaker 1: we're both very polished, very well scripted, what a progressive

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Speaker 1: politician would say in a movie. And between then she

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Speaker 1: talked like a normal person having a conversation with you,

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Speaker 1: which is why I would say from a presentation standpoint,

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Speaker 1: she did not come across the best because she came

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Speaker 1: across as a person who is thinking through answers and

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Speaker 1: having a conversation with you, trying to answer them, which

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Speaker 1: I don't know if it is a weakness or strength,

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Speaker 1: because Donald Trump comes across as a drunken farmer um

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Speaker 1: when and like anyone the presidency, that turned out to

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Speaker 1: be great, and we're all if fucking exhausted of people

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Speaker 1: who sound like politicians, and she sounds she sounded like

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Speaker 1: a politician, like a good politician at the first and

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Speaker 1: last answer. In between she sounded like a person trying

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Speaker 1: to find some oceans. Yeah, that'sated with but I understand,

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Speaker 1: like that's it's just important to note that that is

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Speaker 1: very true, um, and different people are going to take

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Speaker 1: that in different ways. For me, I found it refreshing. Also,

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Speaker 1: she taught special ed and UH as a person who

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Speaker 1: taught special and was bad at it. I didn't know

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Speaker 1: that about you. I did and was bad at it.

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Speaker 1: My job was mostly to get punched in the face.

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Speaker 1: But having literally gone to war zones and been shot at,

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Speaker 1: I can't imagine a harder job than teaching special education.

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Speaker 1: Anybody who dedicates a chunk of their life to doing that,

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Speaker 1: except for me, because I was at it is a hero.

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Speaker 1: Your mother does, right. Yeah, and to have a president

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Speaker 1: who I understand that. Yeah, I want to talk a

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Speaker 1: little bit about her. I don't have the answer to this,

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Speaker 1: but maybe you guys do. I've seen a lot of

631
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Speaker 1: pushback or some amount to with Warren online um specifically

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Speaker 1: about her stance on Palestine as well as Medicare for all.

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Speaker 1: Do you guys know anything about that? I've heard about

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00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:10,680
Speaker 1: the Medicare for all of heard what the fun is

635
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Speaker 1: she saying about? Actually don't know. I don't think that

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Speaker 1: she has a hard stance against Israel, And I think

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Speaker 1: the point I don't. I don't know. Try imagining anyone

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Speaker 1: having a hard stance against Ariel and running for president

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Speaker 1: in the United States. But that's the thing. I think

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Speaker 1: that seems like everyone is the same, Like no one.

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Speaker 1: No one is is making that an issue for them.

642
00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:33,800
Speaker 1: No one's trying to make themselves stand out. Actually, I

643
00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:36,400
Speaker 1: think a lot of people and people even have been

644
00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:39,040
Speaker 1: deeming me being like, I'm concerned about your support of

645
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Speaker 1: warrant because of her really, because of her stands and

646
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Speaker 1: Palestine and and what what have they specified on what

647
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Speaker 1: they're concerned about. She doesn't seem to have a lot

648
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Speaker 1: of empathy towards Palestinians, then yeah, I would consider that

649
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Speaker 1: an issue. And yeah, that's what I will say, And

650
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Speaker 1: what I can say without being more certain better specific views,

651
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Speaker 1: is that, like I'm sure she has more empathed with

652
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Speaker 1: Palestine than Donald try. Yeah, that's where yeah, and all do. Yeah,

653
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Speaker 1: And I guess that she was for Medicare for all

654
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Speaker 1: and then seemed to take a step but now she's

655
00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:11,640
Speaker 1: all in, seems, and she waffled on it. I think

656
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Speaker 1: she mainly waffled on because it's just not one of

657
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Speaker 1: the core issues that she's focused on. And I mean

658
00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:18,920
Speaker 1: she literally said I'm with Bernie on this one. Yeah,

659
00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:21,480
Speaker 1: so fine. I think we have to take word for them.

660
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Speaker 1: And it's one of those things where like part of

661
00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:26,520
Speaker 1: what you're voting for is not what the candidate espouses

662
00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:28,759
Speaker 1: and what they believed all the career, but whether or

663
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Speaker 1: not they are a sane person who could be pushed.

664
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Speaker 1: You will not push a Republican to make It's like

665
00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:36,600
Speaker 1: with climate change. Joe Biden, who I don't like if

666
00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:39,040
Speaker 1: he is elected president, doesn't have a good policy and

667
00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:40,840
Speaker 1: climate change right now, doesn't have a great history with

668
00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:44,200
Speaker 1: climate change. But I do firmly believe could be pushed

669
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Speaker 1: by a Democratic elector who cared about climate change to

670
00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:50,399
Speaker 1: embrace effective policies to address it purely because he wants

671
00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:53,160
Speaker 1: to win re election and because he's a political animal.

672
00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:55,799
Speaker 1: Donald Trump will never do that. I believe that he

673
00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:59,080
Speaker 1: could be pushed during this process. I believe that we

674
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Speaker 1: could get him saying X, Y or Z, and I

675
00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:05,560
Speaker 1: think he'd go along with a Democratic Senate and House.

676
00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:10,239
Speaker 1: You might take any step on. That's why I don't

677
00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:12,560
Speaker 1: think that's what we need. I mean, I think I'm

678
00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:14,560
Speaker 1: preaching to the choir here, but I'm not talking about

679
00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:16,760
Speaker 1: what we need. But just like if we're talking about

680
00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:19,560
Speaker 1: should you vote for Biden if it's Biden or Trump, Yes,

681
00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:22,920
Speaker 1: but I do feel like that has to be like

682
00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:25,200
Speaker 1: it's the kind of thing where it's like there's a

683
00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:28,640
Speaker 1: lot of criticisms to lot against everybody on the stage,

684
00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:30,880
Speaker 1: and there's a lot of reasons to not like Biden.

685
00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:33,719
Speaker 1: But if he was president right now, we would have

686
00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:35,960
Speaker 1: a lot of the same problems we have, but children

687
00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:40,000
Speaker 1: wouldn't have died in concentration camps. Yeah, and that's that's

688
00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:43,120
Speaker 1: not nothing to me. That's not nothing. I'm also trans

689
00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:47,160
Speaker 1: wouldn't be banned from serving the military. I'm mostly I'm

690
00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:50,880
Speaker 1: just I'm mostly worried about post Biden and who they like,

691
00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:53,799
Speaker 1: who the Republican candidate is after I hate the idea

692
00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:59,640
Speaker 1: of the election. I think that the response to Joe

693
00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:04,040
Speaker 1: Biden would be someone smarter than Donald Trump, who am

694
00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:07,160
Speaker 1: still embodies the same kind of things, and that's totally

695
00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:11,640
Speaker 1: super reasonable. I just think for how terrible these years

696
00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:14,680
Speaker 1: have been with Donald Trump, the sort of positive that

697
00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:17,279
Speaker 1: you can take away is that we everybody's riled up

698
00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:18,879
Speaker 1: in a way and paying attention in a way that

699
00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:23,800
Speaker 1: we maybe never been before. And if any of these

700
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Speaker 1: big broad changes that we we dream about happening are

701
00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:31,440
Speaker 1: going to happen, they're going to happen now because everybody's engaged.

702
00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:35,720
Speaker 1: And I just feel in my bones that getting Biden

703
00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:38,960
Speaker 1: in there would be a huge step back from all

704
00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:42,440
Speaker 1: It would bum me out in a way that I

705
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:47,359
Speaker 1: actually fear now long for him. I don't think he's

706
00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:50,880
Speaker 1: gonna make it. It seems like he's been bleeding support

707
00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:52,879
Speaker 1: at a rate that makes me think it may not

708
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Speaker 1: be sustainable. That said, again, as somebody like you know,

709
00:36:57,280 --> 00:36:59,319
Speaker 1: you've got the part of me who's like trying to

710
00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:01,480
Speaker 1: approach this as what I believe in a part this

711
00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:06,160
Speaker 1: prender approach as a journalist, he has really fucking solid

712
00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:09,320
Speaker 1: support among the black and Latino community. It's so interesting. Um.

713
00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:10,920
Speaker 1: It's the same thing with Hillary Clinton. Is what I

714
00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:13,200
Speaker 1: argued with Bernie people a lot during the election, is

715
00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:15,920
Speaker 1: just like, no, she objectively won a larger chunk of

716
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Speaker 1: the non white Democratic vote than he did, by a

717
00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:22,080
Speaker 1: substantial margin. And that's not because of the d n C.

718
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Speaker 1: It's because she devoted a lot of time to campaigning

719
00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:27,960
Speaker 1: in those areas, any of those communities, And you have

720
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:30,960
Speaker 1: to acknowledge that. I'm curious how true that will be

721
00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:34,879
Speaker 1: for Biden. I am curious how that especial. We're very

722
00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:37,799
Speaker 1: early yet, um, and he's yeah, I think it's just

723
00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:39,440
Speaker 1: been a lot of It's been a lot of name

724
00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:42,160
Speaker 1: recognition and a lot of the like he was Obama's

725
00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:45,440
Speaker 1: VP the Institution and just like the idea of Joe Biden.

726
00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:49,000
Speaker 1: And then as time went on, more and more stuff

727
00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:51,359
Speaker 1: came out about him that should have been talked about,

728
00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:53,960
Speaker 1: maybe when he talked about trying to be vice president,

729
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:56,120
Speaker 1: all that kind of stuff, And now that you have

730
00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:59,040
Speaker 1: actual people on stage introducing those things, I just don't

731
00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:02,560
Speaker 1: think he'll I don't think Yeah, that's my hope, that's

732
00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:04,240
Speaker 1: my hope, because like, he did not do well tonight.

733
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Speaker 1: I know he was not the standout. No, he looked

734
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:10,240
Speaker 1: he looked real bad tonight. Let's talk about gun control.

735
00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:15,080
Speaker 1: We gotta talk about gun control. Both debates did. I

736
00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:18,080
Speaker 1: didn't like what anybody had to say Um, which is

737
00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:20,720
Speaker 1: usually the case when I hear Democrats talk about gun control.

738
00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:24,200
Speaker 1: UM swallows the guy I like the least one of

739
00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:26,560
Speaker 1: the issues I have with him, and I I want

740
00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:28,840
Speaker 1: to make it clear to the listeners that as a

741
00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:31,040
Speaker 1: guy who owns a shipload of guns, I've never voted

742
00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:33,319
Speaker 1: on guns. I will never vote on guns. I do

743
00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:35,720
Speaker 1: not make any of my voting decisions based on people's

744
00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:38,920
Speaker 1: gun policies I make because like, if I were voting

745
00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:40,440
Speaker 1: on that, then I would be throwing all of my

746
00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:43,080
Speaker 1: gay and trans and non white friends under the bus.

747
00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:44,640
Speaker 1: I would throw the climate under the bus. And I'm

748
00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:48,520
Speaker 1: not going to do that. That said, uh, when Swallow

749
00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:51,120
Speaker 1: made the statement that like, I don't care about your

750
00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:56,200
Speaker 1: handguns and your shotguns of gun crimes and murders are

751
00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:58,680
Speaker 1: committed with handguns and shotguns. You look at all of

752
00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:01,600
Speaker 1: the top guns that actually people in this country all handguns,

753
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:03,719
Speaker 1: he didn't care about them, he said, I'm not I

754
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:05,640
Speaker 1: have no issue to go. I have no issues with that.

755
00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:09,200
Speaker 1: I want to go sized problem because I'm not gonna

756
00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:12,200
Speaker 1: say mass shooting center problem, but like really small chunk

757
00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:15,719
Speaker 1: of gun crime, actually really small chunk, which doesn't mean

758
00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:18,920
Speaker 1: we don't address it. But like the assault weapon focus

759
00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:23,080
Speaker 1: is always because it's an easy way out. That's scary.

760
00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:26,120
Speaker 1: They look, they look, they look scary, and and that's

761
00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:32,279
Speaker 1: an easy talking point, Like, Okay, we can all agree that, yeah,

762
00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:35,319
Speaker 1: no more handguns. No one wants to say. What the

763
00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:38,480
Speaker 1: real issue is that that is really fucking attractable difficult.

764
00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:41,640
Speaker 1: Is that there are a couple of simultaneous truths number one.

765
00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:45,520
Speaker 1: One of the single most important laws of this country

766
00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:50,480
Speaker 1: built into its nervous system, it's fucking spinal cord, is

767
00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:54,279
Speaker 1: the right to bear arms. The vast majority of gun

768
00:39:54,320 --> 00:40:00,000
Speaker 1: deaths in this country are suicides, and no restriction of firearms,

769
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:03,799
Speaker 1: save a total ban on gun ownership, we'll stop people

770
00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:06,400
Speaker 1: from being able to kill themselves with guns. That's the

771
00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:09,000
Speaker 1: single that's the issue that nobody talks about because there's

772
00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:12,040
Speaker 1: no real way to address it. Mass shootings people do discuss,

773
00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:13,560
Speaker 1: and I think they tend to get wrong, but like

774
00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:16,000
Speaker 1: that's one of those things. And this is one of

775
00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:17,720
Speaker 1: the issues again where I have with people like Swabow

776
00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:19,520
Speaker 1: who talk about like gun buy backs, where it's like

777
00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:23,040
Speaker 1: you realize there's a Constitution and there's the Supreme Court,

778
00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:25,400
Speaker 1: and there's like that, like that there's a body of law,

779
00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:28,240
Speaker 1: and like what you are saying might not be legal,

780
00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:32,200
Speaker 1: and in fact has been categorical bands on weapons after

781
00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:36,560
Speaker 1: d C versus Heller, like r I'm constitutional, And again

782
00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:38,920
Speaker 1: there are states with individual sault weapons bands, so you

783
00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:41,560
Speaker 1: could argue, but those assault weapons bands, like California has

784
00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:43,399
Speaker 1: assault weapons ban, and I was still able to own

785
00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:45,440
Speaker 1: an our fifteen and a K forty seven because their

786
00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:48,239
Speaker 1: Assault Weapons Band did not ban semi automatic weapons. They

787
00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:51,600
Speaker 1: banned certain features on weapons which didn't actually make it.

788
00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:53,640
Speaker 1: Because again, the most recent mass shooting we had in

789
00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:55,880
Speaker 1: California where we had like twelve dead, was thousands of

790
00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:58,560
Speaker 1: shootings we've done with a clock handgun. I think I

791
00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:02,480
Speaker 1: really wish we had people talking about guns in the

792
00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:05,400
Speaker 1: Democratic Party and how to effectively legislate them and restrict

793
00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:08,839
Speaker 1: them that understood them. Um. And I also wish people

794
00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:11,000
Speaker 1: understood the fact that Bodhadeer served in the military does

795
00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:13,239
Speaker 1: not mean he knows a damn thing about guns. Some

796
00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:16,160
Speaker 1: of the dumbest people about guns served in the military

797
00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:24,120
Speaker 1: aspect soldier. Yeah. Yeah, uh that's my rantin Monopolize that

798
00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:28,080
Speaker 1: that that's what was here for. Um. Yeah, this suicide

799
00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:33,040
Speaker 1: thing is a real problem and concern, and uh, it's

800
00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:34,719
Speaker 1: one of those things that is linked to so many

801
00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:36,839
Speaker 1: other problems again and it kind of gets to what

802
00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:40,239
Speaker 1: Mary Anne Williams was talking about, how do you, like,

803
00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:43,120
Speaker 1: what are the things that are causing this? Um And

804
00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:45,239
Speaker 1: you don't hear a lot of people even talking about,

805
00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:47,280
Speaker 1: like when you talk about universal health care and medicare

806
00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:49,880
Speaker 1: for all those things like mental health is important and

807
00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:54,839
Speaker 1: like people don't Uh, A lot of people don't have

808
00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:58,520
Speaker 1: anyone to talk to, and uh, if you give them

809
00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:02,080
Speaker 1: that outlet helps with a lot of problem. I don't know,

810
00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:04,399
Speaker 1: like I have the idea of like, well, no, we

811
00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:07,120
Speaker 1: if you give everyone the mental and physical care that

812
00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:09,560
Speaker 1: they need, that a lot of these problems not immediately,

813
00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:13,879
Speaker 1: but like over time time. You'll see. It's just like Switzerland,

814
00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:18,359
Speaker 1: every adult pretty much has an assault rifle in their home.

815
00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:21,480
Speaker 1: I did not know that, Yeah, because they're everyone who

816
00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:23,080
Speaker 1: serves in the military, which is like most of the

817
00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:25,919
Speaker 1: adult population. Maybe I'm getting an exact but a lot

818
00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:28,040
Speaker 1: of people should I get and they take their weapons

819
00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:29,520
Speaker 1: home with them and it's a G thirty six C,

820
00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:32,840
Speaker 1: which is a pretty potent gun. Um. Also, you know,

821
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Speaker 1: I had an editor at a website I wrote with

822
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Speaker 1: who was Swiss, and when she got pregnant, Uh, she

823
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Speaker 1: and her husband both got like six or seven months

824
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Speaker 1: of maternity paternity leave, which is part of like the

825
00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:46,160
Speaker 1: package that they get. Like, and I think, you know,

826
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Speaker 1: there's a lot of other stuff at play as too.

827
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Speaker 1: If you're trying to wonder like why they Swiss don't

828
00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:52,279
Speaker 1: have mass shootings and we do. Um, because one thing

829
00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:53,520
Speaker 1: that the right brings up a lot when they talk

830
00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:55,319
Speaker 1: about gun controls, like look at Switzerland, they all have

831
00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:57,120
Speaker 1: machine guns, and like they don't commit nearly as many

832
00:42:57,160 --> 00:42:58,760
Speaker 1: crimes as US. It's got to be a separate issue.

833
00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:02,839
Speaker 1: They're not entirely wrong. Um, it's wrong to blame every

834
00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:06,280
Speaker 1: mass shooting on mental health because that unfairly stigmatized tonically

835
00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:08,560
Speaker 1: old people. But it's also wrong they pretend that like

836
00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:11,920
Speaker 1: the fact that most like therapy is something that has

837
00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:14,840
Speaker 1: proven benefits for virtually everyone who engages in it, and

838
00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:18,000
Speaker 1: the vast majority of Americans could not possibly afford to

839
00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:20,320
Speaker 1: engage in a therapist, reject the concept of it, but

840
00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:23,160
Speaker 1: also couldn't afford it even if they didn't. That's a problem. Yeah,

841
00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:26,080
Speaker 1: it's a problem in a place where also, while you

842
00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:28,160
Speaker 1: can't afford a therapist for the cost of four hours

843
00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:32,080
Speaker 1: of therapy, US could buy an air fifteen. Yeah. That's

844
00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:35,320
Speaker 1: that's an issue to me as a guy who you

845
00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:39,120
Speaker 1: can get them as cheap as forner Bucks, very cheap. Yeah. Yeah,

846
00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:42,840
Speaker 1: that's like a month of therapy. Yea maybe, But none

847
00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:46,680
Speaker 1: of our but none of our conversations about guns include this,

848
00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:49,719
Speaker 1: No they don't, and that's what then when they do,

849
00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:52,400
Speaker 1: it's sort of in a reductive way that like doesn't

850
00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:55,520
Speaker 1: really yeah, well it's similar to mean, this is a transition,

851
00:43:55,680 --> 00:44:01,040
Speaker 1: but all of our conversations about immigration rarely include talking

852
00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:06,080
Speaker 1: about going into Latin America. Going into the being the debate,

853
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Speaker 1: it was addressed like we kind of fucked up Latin

854
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Speaker 1: America what with the wars we can unbelievable. I mean

855
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Speaker 1: I was truly yeah, well I was really impressed by

856
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Speaker 1: that especially it was especially impressive, like it was it

857
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Speaker 1: did seem like the majority of people on the stage

858
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Speaker 1: new and said that. Yeah, for all that, I and

859
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Speaker 1: all of us, I'm sure will continue to shoot on

860
00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:32,279
Speaker 1: the Democratic Party in frustration for the next year and

861
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Speaker 1: a half. Kudos on both really focusing on trains people

862
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Speaker 1: in how America sucked up Latin America. It really is

863
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Speaker 1: a credit to the point even Biden was like, by

864
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Speaker 1: the way, like we gave like millions of hundred millions

865
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Speaker 1: of dollars and sucked right, yeah, and then they stopped

866
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Speaker 1: it and like here like it started to reduce the

867
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Speaker 1: number of people and then here we are maybe like guys,

868
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Speaker 1: you remember like the Marshall Plan, like the single most

869
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Speaker 1: effective thing that our government ever did, maybe in its

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Speaker 1: whole history. Maybe that again. No, Germany and Japan don't

871
00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:06,319
Speaker 1: seem like you're doing. How many they both reverted to

872
00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:10,719
Speaker 1: fascism so many times since, constant to do it, so

873
00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:18,799
Speaker 1: many built the country that famously still fascist statesman. I

874
00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:21,600
Speaker 1: remember how Japan has continued to invade China for the

875
00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:24,759
Speaker 1: last eighty years. We all remember, We all remember the

876
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Speaker 1: things that happened in real life and not making incredible products.

877
00:45:30,080 --> 00:45:33,960
Speaker 1: I love products and services and services speaking of what

878
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Speaker 1: cheers And no we're not doing yeah um yeah, No,

879
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Speaker 1: that was a great surprise. I was very surprised actually,

880
00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:51,840
Speaker 1: Like cler last and the first night remind me of

881
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Speaker 1: like you're a friend in high school, her mom that

882
00:45:54,719 --> 00:45:57,720
Speaker 1: you never wanted to be stuck young with, but every

883
00:45:57,760 --> 00:45:59,440
Speaker 1: now and then you get stuck with her and she

884
00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:02,040
Speaker 1: actually says something, not a bad person that she makes

885
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Speaker 1: it perfect, Like where you guys going tonight? Yeah? Wait,

886
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Speaker 1: no club? Sorry, I was thinking of nonsense. The short

887
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Speaker 1: brown clar is the one that eats with a comb

888
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Speaker 1: and is mean to her Yeah, in a pinch, which

889
00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:23,839
Speaker 1: is fine. She's resourceful. Gila Brand is the mom who,

890
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Speaker 1: like you think that you wouldn't want to be alone

891
00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:26,719
Speaker 1: with and like you kind of dread it, but then

892
00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:32,440
Speaker 1: you do and she's like the cool mom. You smoked weed. Yeah,

893
00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:35,640
Speaker 1: she's a yeah. I'm not slandering her spreading rumors. All

894
00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:38,960
Speaker 1: I'm saying if you walk up to Christine Gilabrand, she

895
00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:43,840
Speaker 1: will give you weed. Um. Did like everyone take that

896
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Speaker 1: to heart? Last night didn't have as many I don't.

897
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Speaker 1: I didn't don't remember them talking about that aspect of

898
00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:52,719
Speaker 1: the immigration point. But I don't like that brought up

899
00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:56,279
Speaker 1: the economic comperative of immigration, and that is another thing

900
00:46:56,320 --> 00:46:59,000
Speaker 1: that I don't see people talking about enough. We're like

901
00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:01,600
Speaker 1: freaking out about everything that's happened in the border, and

902
00:47:01,640 --> 00:47:04,040
Speaker 1: nobody's really hammering down the point that we actually are

903
00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:06,759
Speaker 1: in a situation where we need immigrants. We have a

904
00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:09,279
Speaker 1: dearth in the service industry. What are old people going

905
00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:14,040
Speaker 1: to do without them? I'm all of our companies my

906
00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:16,040
Speaker 1: mom grew I grew up with My mom has is

907
00:47:16,040 --> 00:47:18,840
Speaker 1: a caterer, had a catering company, and we relied and

908
00:47:18,920 --> 00:47:23,680
Speaker 1: she had all sorts of different like Hispanic Hispanic immigrants

909
00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:25,560
Speaker 1: that worked for her, and she paid them well and

910
00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:27,920
Speaker 1: she gave them healthcare. And you know, and not that

911
00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:29,759
Speaker 1: my mom was an amazing person, but they were part

912
00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:31,719
Speaker 1: of it was imperative. Nobody else would take that job.

913
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Speaker 1: Is amazing person. She is an amazing person. Nobody we

914
00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:41,440
Speaker 1: we needed them, she needed them, and they were better

915
00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:44,320
Speaker 1: than everybody else. Yeah. Yeah, it's um one of the

916
00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:46,640
Speaker 1: things that eternally frustrates me. And then I frustrated me

917
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Speaker 1: with Bernie Sanders, who was a guy who I know

918
00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:51,799
Speaker 1: on an emotional personal note, when the rest of my

919
00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:56,239
Speaker 1: family went for Trump and broke my heart in one

920
00:47:56,280 --> 00:47:58,960
Speaker 1: of the people who raised me, my aunt, who is

921
00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:02,720
Speaker 1: a lifelong Republican, voted for Bernie Sanders, and the fact

922
00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:04,919
Speaker 1: that because she was like I think he's the only

923
00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:07,920
Speaker 1: honest man in the election, and he will always have

924
00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:10,560
Speaker 1: a piece of my heart for that. I am eternally

925
00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:14,200
Speaker 1: frustrated with his insistence that borders are important, and I know,

926
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Speaker 1: I know, this is a ridiculous hope. I will never

927
00:48:16,520 --> 00:48:19,160
Speaker 1: have a party in either side of this country, left

928
00:48:19,239 --> 00:48:21,520
Speaker 1: or right, who feels the way I do about borders,

929
00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:24,880
Speaker 1: which is that they are a cancer destroying our entire species,

930
00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:28,160
Speaker 1: and that until we get past the concept we have

931
00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:31,000
Speaker 1: no hope of long term survival. That's just me being

932
00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:34,359
Speaker 1: a wild eyed radical. But I wish Bernie Sanders had

933
00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:37,040
Speaker 1: said funck all Borders thrown a smoke bomb and skateboarder

934
00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:43,560
Speaker 1: out of the that would have been sick. Skateboard punched

935
00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:49,279
Speaker 1: him right out the door the debate. Yeah, and then yeah,

936
00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:51,920
Speaker 1: insulted him in Spanish or something. Yeah, I called him

937
00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:54,920
Speaker 1: a fucking put Yeah. Who do you think is going

938
00:48:54,960 --> 00:48:56,480
Speaker 1: to make it to the next round? Do? How do

939
00:48:56,480 --> 00:48:58,719
Speaker 1: we eliminate people? Do we know? I think it Isn't

940
00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:00,600
Speaker 1: it just like about the amount of PA pularity that's

941
00:49:00,640 --> 00:49:02,560
Speaker 1: pulling and stuff? Right? Yeah, it seems like that would

942
00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:04,239
Speaker 1: be the only same way to do it. All I

943
00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:08,200
Speaker 1: want to see I want to see I guess Warren, Bernie,

944
00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:11,840
Speaker 1: But I do want to bring up one other thing.

945
00:49:12,239 --> 00:49:15,160
Speaker 1: Get frustrated the funk out of me one person Unless

946
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Speaker 1: I'm missing my guests on the first debate because I

947
00:49:17,160 --> 00:49:18,560
Speaker 1: missed a little chunk of it because I was in

948
00:49:18,600 --> 00:49:20,799
Speaker 1: trance all was listening. I think one person in both

949
00:49:20,840 --> 00:49:25,279
Speaker 1: debates brought up white supremacy and it was fucking Joe Biden. Yeah,

950
00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:29,799
Speaker 1: so yeah, that's disappointing. That's disappointing. I mean, good on you, Joe,

951
00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:32,080
Speaker 1: Like we're not we're not trying to be like one

952
00:49:32,080 --> 00:49:34,480
Speaker 1: of those fucking nothing but nihilistic podcasts here. So I'm

953
00:49:34,480 --> 00:49:36,960
Speaker 1: gonna give people credit where it's due. He brought it up,

954
00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:39,759
Speaker 1: He brought it on. Everyone should have because of all

955
00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:43,399
Speaker 1: the dead people. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's You're right that

956
00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:46,760
Speaker 1: there's an alarming lack of that. So he gets credit

957
00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:48,960
Speaker 1: for that in my book. For that, I don't think

958
00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:51,839
Speaker 1: he's any kind of plan. It's a plan. I also

959
00:49:51,840 --> 00:49:53,600
Speaker 1: don't think he's really careble of talking about it in

960
00:49:53,640 --> 00:49:56,360
Speaker 1: a way where he really understands it. It really and

961
00:49:56,440 --> 00:49:58,680
Speaker 1: like I think it's kind of the negative of that

962
00:49:58,760 --> 00:50:00,799
Speaker 1: when like his first question, I forget even what the

963
00:50:00,880 --> 00:50:02,719
Speaker 1: question was, but like one of the first words that

964
00:50:02,760 --> 00:50:04,600
Speaker 1: came out of his mouth with Donald Trump, and it

965
00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:08,400
Speaker 1: seems like that's just the literal. His whole thing is

966
00:50:08,440 --> 00:50:11,960
Speaker 1: just like, oh, the Charlottesville and Donald Trump and it's

967
00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:13,680
Speaker 1: bad in the soil of over country. But like he

968
00:50:13,719 --> 00:50:16,320
Speaker 1: doesn't really know where it's coming from or like why

969
00:50:16,600 --> 00:50:19,520
Speaker 1: or he brought it. He had Charlotte'sville and a couple

970
00:50:19,600 --> 00:50:21,520
Speaker 1: of my friends were in the ad that he put

971
00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:24,160
Speaker 1: up first. I saw that. Yeah, Like I will say,

972
00:50:24,200 --> 00:50:26,080
Speaker 1: also in credit to her, she didn't bring it up

973
00:50:26,080 --> 00:50:28,840
Speaker 1: in the debates, and she should have. But Elizabeth Warren

974
00:50:28,920 --> 00:50:32,480
Speaker 1: has suggested plans and made it a focus of her campaign.

975
00:50:32,520 --> 00:50:34,400
Speaker 1: I did not know that. Yeah, she's talked about that,

976
00:50:34,480 --> 00:50:36,600
Speaker 1: like white supremacy needs to be probably need to start

977
00:50:36,600 --> 00:50:40,160
Speaker 1: prosecuting these people's domestic terrorists, which we're not currently doing.

978
00:50:40,200 --> 00:50:44,320
Speaker 1: I think she should have said. That's my big bummer

979
00:50:44,360 --> 00:50:47,000
Speaker 1: about Elizabeth warrenh how do you not do that? It's

980
00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:49,640
Speaker 1: a fucking debate, Elizabeth talk about it. Well, they don't

981
00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:53,520
Speaker 1: have very much time, but that's kind of a big one.

982
00:50:53,560 --> 00:50:56,799
Speaker 1: I do agree that's disappointed she didn't bring it up.

983
00:50:57,280 --> 00:51:01,359
Speaker 1: But Joe Biden thing seems like it's kind of lip

984
00:51:01,400 --> 00:51:03,880
Speaker 1: surface and like it's like, oh, I know that people

985
00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:06,200
Speaker 1: care about this, and it's like a hot button emotional

986
00:51:06,239 --> 00:51:08,960
Speaker 1: topic that can bring up, as opposed to knowing where

987
00:51:08,960 --> 00:51:10,799
Speaker 1: it comes from and what to feel about it and

988
00:51:12,080 --> 00:51:14,680
Speaker 1: call it lip service. If he wasn't the only fucking

989
00:51:14,680 --> 00:51:19,720
Speaker 1: person images because no one else said anything, So like, yeah,

990
00:51:21,160 --> 00:51:22,960
Speaker 1: he brought it up. Anything that I'd like to keep

991
00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:25,560
Speaker 1: an eye out for the next one. Are there other

992
00:51:25,600 --> 00:51:28,200
Speaker 1: things that you guys want to see people talking about

993
00:51:28,200 --> 00:51:30,680
Speaker 1: in the next debates? You know, the most frustrating moment

994
00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:34,239
Speaker 1: for me was when they got asked what they would

995
00:51:34,280 --> 00:51:36,160
Speaker 1: do if they could deal with one problem, and like

996
00:51:36,200 --> 00:51:38,160
Speaker 1: two people brought up climate change, and like someone brought

997
00:51:38,200 --> 00:51:41,120
Speaker 1: up like guns, and someone brought up about like like

998
00:51:41,239 --> 00:51:43,440
Speaker 1: income for families and stuff, and it's like, yeah, man,

999
00:51:43,480 --> 00:51:46,520
Speaker 1: both both gun control and improving family income are important,

1000
00:51:46,520 --> 00:51:51,160
Speaker 1: but like you know, the planets burning up, like no

1001
00:51:51,200 --> 00:51:54,160
Speaker 1: other answer. But the most important thing is to stop

1002
00:51:54,200 --> 00:51:58,719
Speaker 1: the environment from collapsing. Nothing else is that important. It's

1003
00:51:58,760 --> 00:52:02,640
Speaker 1: the literally the thing that I need. Yea, I will

1004
00:52:02,680 --> 00:52:05,880
Speaker 1: not vote for you unless you've got anoledgs just better

1005
00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:08,400
Speaker 1: and warrant. I think who said climate change? That was

1006
00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:12,160
Speaker 1: the first debate the second once people said it, I

1007
00:52:12,200 --> 00:52:15,279
Speaker 1: don't even picking Looper and whoever else. I do not

1008
00:52:15,480 --> 00:52:17,560
Speaker 1: like the answer, Like, well, the first thing I do

1009
00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:21,239
Speaker 1: is to rejoin the Paris Climate Agreement. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

1010
00:52:21,719 --> 00:52:26,520
Speaker 1: I mean at least that's acknowledging climate change. We need

1011
00:52:26,680 --> 00:52:29,080
Speaker 1: much more than Gilibrand was the only one with a

1012
00:52:29,120 --> 00:52:33,640
Speaker 1: really good answer on like that. Yeah, So speaking of

1013
00:52:33,680 --> 00:52:36,160
Speaker 1: what people want to see, one of the things we're

1014
00:52:36,160 --> 00:52:38,560
Speaker 1: doing here, you know, we're trying to provide all of

1015
00:52:38,600 --> 00:52:44,360
Speaker 1: you with an effective and useful podcast series about this

1016
00:52:44,440 --> 00:52:48,560
Speaker 1: election that keeps you informed and hopefully helps not just

1017
00:52:48,680 --> 00:52:53,040
Speaker 1: drive interests but relieve stress and uh, provide some value

1018
00:52:53,080 --> 00:52:56,400
Speaker 1: to people trying to navigate what will be the worst

1019
00:52:56,480 --> 00:53:00,000
Speaker 1: year of all of our lives two thousand and twenty UM.

1020
00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:02,799
Speaker 1: And we wanna, you know, not just talk about what

1021
00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:05,959
Speaker 1: we thought about this election, but also because the people

1022
00:53:05,960 --> 00:53:07,600
Speaker 1: we assume are listening to this of the folks who

1023
00:53:07,600 --> 00:53:09,080
Speaker 1: like us the most, and the folks will be the

1024
00:53:09,080 --> 00:53:11,279
Speaker 1: core of the audience of our new podcast, The Worst

1025
00:53:11,320 --> 00:53:13,560
Speaker 1: Year Ever, We want to open the ship up to

1026
00:53:13,560 --> 00:53:15,440
Speaker 1: your suggestions about what you want to hear covered, what

1027
00:53:15,480 --> 00:53:17,040
Speaker 1: you want to see addressed you, what you want to

1028
00:53:17,040 --> 00:53:20,160
Speaker 1: see us go into. Because there is a crowded field

1029
00:53:20,200 --> 00:53:24,320
Speaker 1: of political podcasts, and I find most of them deeply frustrating,

1030
00:53:25,920 --> 00:53:28,400
Speaker 1: and I don't want to make a frustrating and unlistenable podcast,

1031
00:53:28,520 --> 00:53:31,400
Speaker 1: And I don't want to make a reflexively ideological podcast,

1032
00:53:31,440 --> 00:53:33,840
Speaker 1: which I hope we've avoided in this and sort of

1033
00:53:33,920 --> 00:53:36,239
Speaker 1: dealing with the people as they present come later Joe

1034
00:53:36,239 --> 00:53:41,399
Speaker 1: Biden a couple of times. Yeah, he didn't. Um. So

1035
00:53:41,600 --> 00:53:43,480
Speaker 1: we have an email and we want you to reach

1036
00:53:43,560 --> 00:53:46,160
Speaker 1: out to us if you have things you want us

1037
00:53:46,200 --> 00:53:49,400
Speaker 1: to cover, things you really want to see dealt with

1038
00:53:50,040 --> 00:53:52,960
Speaker 1: suggestions for how we handle this selection because we're all

1039
00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:54,799
Speaker 1: going to be doing a podcast Katie Coney and I

1040
00:53:54,880 --> 00:53:57,520
Speaker 1: the Worst Year Ever, where you know, I think we

1041
00:53:57,719 --> 00:53:59,080
Speaker 1: should give them a little bit of an idea of

1042
00:53:59,120 --> 00:54:03,359
Speaker 1: like what we are currently planning to hit in that. Yeah, yeah, definitely, Yeah,

1043
00:54:03,400 --> 00:54:05,560
Speaker 1: I mean you want to because I've just been ranting. Yeah,

1044
00:54:05,600 --> 00:54:07,680
Speaker 1: I mean, like a lot of this stuff. I think

1045
00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:09,120
Speaker 1: one of one of the things I think we all

1046
00:54:09,160 --> 00:54:11,920
Speaker 1: agree on is that we're not going to uh, we're

1047
00:54:11,920 --> 00:54:14,240
Speaker 1: gonna do our best to avoid making it the Trump

1048
00:54:14,280 --> 00:54:16,200
Speaker 1: Show at all, um, and it's not going to be

1049
00:54:16,239 --> 00:54:17,879
Speaker 1: about him. It's not gonna be other things he says

1050
00:54:18,040 --> 00:54:19,480
Speaker 1: or the stuff he tweets about it. And I like

1051
00:54:19,560 --> 00:54:23,359
Speaker 1: that about these debates. Also, yes, we talked about for

1052
00:54:23,440 --> 00:54:26,600
Speaker 1: the most part, they really avoided it. Yeah, I wouldn't

1053
00:54:26,600 --> 00:54:29,560
Speaker 1: making him the focus, which is very good, and so

1054
00:54:29,560 --> 00:54:33,040
Speaker 1: we're gonna avoid that. We want to talk about, Um,

1055
00:54:33,160 --> 00:54:36,920
Speaker 1: what they're actually talking about and the issues there and

1056
00:54:37,040 --> 00:54:39,560
Speaker 1: how they actually affect people, and like talking to talking

1057
00:54:39,560 --> 00:54:42,440
Speaker 1: to people and what affects them. Um, we will be

1058
00:54:42,480 --> 00:54:46,040
Speaker 1: going to various conventions throughout the year about stuff like

1059
00:54:46,080 --> 00:54:50,440
Speaker 1: the shot show. See yes, yeah obviously like the Iowa Caucus.

1060
00:54:50,640 --> 00:54:52,080
Speaker 1: We'll go to the concus will go to the event

1061
00:54:52,200 --> 00:54:55,239
Speaker 1: and see yeah, um what it was the autism Now

1062
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Speaker 1: I think we're going to go which is like a

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Speaker 1: of our our debate. I think so. Yeah, it's been

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Speaker 1: real fun. It's been real fun. Actually it has been.

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Speaker 1: I've enjoyed. This has been great. It's more than the debates. Yes,

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Speaker 1: this is the best part. I want to ask one

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Speaker 1: quick question. Were moving on to the next thing. Do

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Speaker 1: y'all think Joe Biden is a better kisser than Bernie

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Speaker 1: Sanders Because I feel like Joe has the pass. I

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Speaker 1: think he might be I think he might be a

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Speaker 1: good kisser depends on how wanted the kisses. Now, that's

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Speaker 1: an important point we're talking about, because Bernie does double

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Speaker 1: consent checks, signs a contracts on board. I don't know

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Speaker 1: that Bernie's that interested. I mean, I think he's just

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Speaker 1: got a lot going on. I'm assuming Bernie's down, like

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Speaker 1: maybe we have some sort of pheromone spray so we

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Speaker 1: know that the interest is there. No, I can't imagine

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Speaker 1: being kissed by Bernie. You can't imagine being kissed by

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Speaker 1: Bernie or either of them, really, But I think that

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Speaker 1: I think that Joe Biden cares about making sure his

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Speaker 1: kisses are good. I don't know. I do think Joe

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Speaker 1: Biden cares about that. I will say I can imagine

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Speaker 1: being on a beach and in Sonata and like sort

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Speaker 1: of the wind blowing through my hair and like a

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Speaker 1: little bit of sand in between my toad selling it

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Speaker 1: sipping a No, I'm talking about Bernie sipping a little

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Speaker 1: bit of like a nice like mescal, and Bernie Sanders

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Speaker 1: puts his hand on my shoulders and leans into me

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Speaker 1: and whispers into my ear. But I care for all

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Speaker 1: unachievable dream and works and most of the developed world

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Speaker 1: and that's the thing. Whereas like I feel like, um,

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Speaker 1: Bernie can sweet Talkie, Bernie can, Bernie can get to

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Speaker 1: your soul, Bernie can get to your emotions. Bernie cares

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Speaker 1: about sweet talk. Sure, I don't think. I think it

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Speaker 1: depends on like who you are, you know, you know, idealistic,

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Speaker 1: strong in their convictions, socialist. Is you think I think

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Speaker 1: he can get you going? I just don't think he's

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Speaker 1: like a sexual being. But I think that Joe Biden

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Speaker 1: probably has spent a lot of time. Yeah, um, and

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Speaker 1: I think that we know that. I also think he

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Speaker 1: probably would get a really good shoulder Rep. I will

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Speaker 1: say one thing that would make almost make Biden being

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Speaker 1: the Democratic candidate worth it, as if the competing hats

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Speaker 1: of were make America great Again and just Biden Fox

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Speaker 1: just we can make those shirts, but our shirts. Honestly,

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Speaker 1: if it we're literally anybody Budda, Judge, Fox, they all,

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Speaker 1: if they all, we all fuck. Except for Beto. I'm

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Speaker 1: not gonna believe it does not fuck. Hes not he

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Speaker 1: doesn't know what He just doesn't know what to do.

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Speaker 1: He's all he's all thumbs, you know, he's just he's

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Speaker 1: just like ranting single words in Spanish like a white

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Speaker 1: boy trying to like shop in Guatemala. Do a kick flip? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I hope he's gone by the next one. He's such

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Speaker 1: a dork. Yeah, Okay, that's it for tonight. Um, we

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Speaker 1: love you very much. It's true. We do, we do.