WEBVTT - European Vacation

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, there're folks from Europe, specifically door No Robock and

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<v Speaker 1>I come into you from Italy April sprits in hand

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<v Speaker 1>and in this episode, what to do when vacation styles clash.

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<v Speaker 1>Also the value of alone time, plus the latest travel

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<v Speaker 1>trend we are seeing everywhere and we might still need

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<v Speaker 1>somebody to explain to us. And also a question to

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<v Speaker 1>help everybody out there understand how much you truly like

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<v Speaker 1>your partner. And with that, Robock, will you please set

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<v Speaker 1>the scene here for everybody that's listening. They might hear

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<v Speaker 1>a little background noise, but hopefully it's a bird chirping

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<v Speaker 1>or a church rail going off.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my goodness. So this is the first time I've

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<v Speaker 2>ever done this. I was inspired by my daughters who've

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<v Speaker 2>been traveling on a dime throughout Europe. They've been very

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<v Speaker 2>fortunate to just have some time in between studies and

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<v Speaker 2>they are all about airbnb and verbos no hotels, So

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<v Speaker 2>you get a feeling of like you're a part of

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<v Speaker 2>the community. You're like in the middle of a city,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's like you have an apartment versus a hotel,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's a lot cheaper. And so we've done that

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<v Speaker 2>for the first time, and we have a nice balcony

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<v Speaker 2>and we have six. There are a lot of balconies.

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<v Speaker 2>They're very small, like some of them are just like

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<v Speaker 2>for two people to barely walk outside. But yes, I

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<v Speaker 2>think officially there are six, but we have like the

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<v Speaker 2>sights and the sounds and the heat of Rome right

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<v Speaker 2>now is crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>We swapped one heat wave for another.

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<v Speaker 2>It's yes. I can't believe that there are two heat

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<v Speaker 2>waves going on where we were and where we are,

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<v Speaker 2>but that is happening. It was one hundred degrees in

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<v Speaker 2>Rome but today, but the humidity is half of what

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<v Speaker 2>it is in New York. So I'm good, like I

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<v Speaker 2>feel good and you hilariously, so everyone else is like

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<v Speaker 2>they have umbrellas and hats. TJ walks out into the

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<v Speaker 2>blazing sun. He's like that feels good? Like what that

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<v Speaker 2>the shade feels good? You love this heat? I love it.

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<v Speaker 1>I have so much space to walk on these days

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<v Speaker 1>because everybody's trying to crowd into the shaded areas of

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<v Speaker 1>the street in the sun.

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<v Speaker 2>You're like, this feels and yes, and most people don't

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<v Speaker 2>look like you here, so you are an anomal that

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<v Speaker 2>most people don't have your skin color here we've noticed there, Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>so that was of distinction on our way here. I've

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<v Speaker 2>been to Italy a couple of times before, but I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think I had noticed how white it is here?

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<v Speaker 1>Are you noticing?

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<v Speaker 2>You pointed it out?

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't point out.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he just said, like, we don't really come to Italy.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, wait what? And then now that you've

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<v Speaker 2>mentioned it, you guess it's confirmed. It's not a destination

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<v Speaker 2>for a lot of I don't know, people of a

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<v Speaker 2>certain color. I don't know why, what's up? Why why

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<v Speaker 2>not Italy? Why was that not on your list?

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<v Speaker 1>It just wasn't on my list. I have a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of places I would probably prefer to go before coming

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<v Speaker 1>to and making an official trip to Italy or to Rome.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just not it would be way way. It would

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<v Speaker 1>be a long time before I got to it. There's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of places before, before Rome, before Italy, and

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<v Speaker 1>places gorgeous. The history here is, I mean, it's unbelievable.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's just astonishing to see what Rome with Italy.

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<v Speaker 1>It's what this country is. I mean, we are we

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<v Speaker 1>celebrate what we're going to be two hundred and fifty

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<v Speaker 1>years old here in a couple of years the United

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<v Speaker 1>States of America and see places that have been around

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<v Speaker 1>for thousands of years. It's just it's unreal. So I appreciate,

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<v Speaker 1>I appreciate. Just one on my listeners is there.

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<v Speaker 2>So why did you come?

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<v Speaker 1>Because you wanted to come here and you weren't wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>stop hooting and hollering about it. So here we are.

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<v Speaker 2>What do you think? What do you think of the country,

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<v Speaker 2>the Roman Empire and what it was and what it's

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<v Speaker 2>meant to us and all of that. And just like

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know the.

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<v Speaker 1>Foods the food, you went. You went from asking me

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<v Speaker 1>about the Roman Empire and to break down my feelings

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<v Speaker 1>on it to food in modern day.

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<v Speaker 2>Gave you a wide, wide runway. You can say whatever

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<v Speaker 2>you'd like about the country.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's hot, the pasta is good. That's all I got.

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<v Speaker 2>This.

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<v Speaker 1>This is why I'm staying in the moment, and that's

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<v Speaker 1>the moment, and that's what's happening. But it's it's just

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<v Speaker 1>we were saying as well, it's just not a We

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<v Speaker 1>see a lot of people travel, and we've traveled a

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<v Speaker 1>lot in our lives, sometimes with family, most of the

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<v Speaker 1>time with kids. It seems it has been, but to

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<v Speaker 1>take a trip like this, we've I don't know, we

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<v Speaker 1>kind of relish it at this point, and I think

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<v Speaker 1>even more so these days, just the ability to be

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<v Speaker 1>able to walk outside and hold hands, keep you had

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<v Speaker 1>a pie, and not worry and be proud. So it's

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<v Speaker 1>never want to forget that.

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<v Speaker 2>I have also felt like, I know we all get

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<v Speaker 2>in different stages of our lives, but I'm at a

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<v Speaker 2>place now where I am an empty nester. So it's

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<v Speaker 2>kind of funny. I've got both of my daughters nearby

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<v Speaker 2>in the area. One is in a country over and

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<v Speaker 2>one is actually in Italy, but just in a different city.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, I think up until this past year,

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<v Speaker 2>all my big vacations have been with them. And you

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<v Speaker 2>get to a place where, yes, you'll still have those moments,

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<v Speaker 2>but you get to kind of reinvest in your personal

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<v Speaker 2>life outside of being a mother or a father, and

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<v Speaker 2>so yes, we like to be able to have this

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<v Speaker 2>time together. I think a lot of couples it's hard,

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<v Speaker 2>like you've got kids and responsibilities and you're trying to

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<v Speaker 2>juggle and you want to show them the world. And

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<v Speaker 2>so we've seen a lot of those families around it

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<v Speaker 2>hasn't been lost on me how lucky we are to

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<v Speaker 2>just be here together knowing our kids are good because

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<v Speaker 2>Sabine went away to summer camp, so she is safely

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<v Speaker 2>and excitedly immersed in her own world of her experience

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<v Speaker 2>of kind of coming up her coming of age moments,

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<v Speaker 2>and those are exciting ones. And my daughters are in theirs,

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<v Speaker 2>and so we actually get the opportunity to be alone,

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<v Speaker 2>which is I think a huge, huge thing that I

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<v Speaker 2>think a lot of people forget to focus on, or

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<v Speaker 2>I definitely have, but like, it's awesome to be able

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<v Speaker 2>to just be here with you without thinking about anything

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<v Speaker 2>other than just us.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh. And we say that after we took two Zoom

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<v Speaker 1>meetings yesterday and that's funny, that's really funny. We were

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<v Speaker 1>sitting at this exact table just yesterday outside no April spirts,

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<v Speaker 1>and hey, that was business. We had to handle those.

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<v Speaker 1>But but yes, to your point, this is this isn't

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<v Speaker 1>I but this is so much time together. I wonder

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<v Speaker 1>if people, how many people listen to hearing our voices

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<v Speaker 1>think about the person they're with and they want more

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<v Speaker 1>of this kind of time, or they don't want any

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<v Speaker 1>more of this kind of time, because it's a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>You and I have been together twenty four to seven

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<v Speaker 1>since what well' suppose the past several days at least

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<v Speaker 1>four or five were together a lot, but you get

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying. We have not been able to be

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<v Speaker 1>away from each other.

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<v Speaker 2>I have not been able to be I love the

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<v Speaker 2>way you pointed out.

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to get away from you. I could not.

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<v Speaker 2>You're stuck with me.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but I am. There's nowhere else I would rather be.

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<v Speaker 1>And the thing I said, the question I would. We

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<v Speaker 1>were talking about this the other day, but it is

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<v Speaker 1>such an interesting question because we do do so much

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<v Speaker 1>stuff together. If you're in a relationship, ask yourself, think

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<v Speaker 1>about the favorite things you like to do daily, eating,

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<v Speaker 1>watching a show on Netflix. Maybe it's cooking, Maybe it's

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<v Speaker 1>going for a run. Your favorite things you like to do,

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<v Speaker 1>And now think who is the person you prefer to

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<v Speaker 1>do that thing with? Like who is your answer? That's

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<v Speaker 1>it's just who When I think about that, and it

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<v Speaker 1>came up, like you are that answer to me on

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<v Speaker 1>all of those things. If it's a football game, if

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<v Speaker 1>it's going to a bar to watch a basketball to

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<v Speaker 1>the final four, if it's going I still I can

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<v Speaker 1>kick it with you better than anybody.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's what's been so cool for me about

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<v Speaker 2>all of this, Like I get it, like we've been

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<v Speaker 2>through a lot of life before we got together, and

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<v Speaker 2>I think that has been a a part of my journey.

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<v Speaker 2>But it has been so interesting because yeah, like I

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<v Speaker 2>think a lot of times I would have said my

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<v Speaker 2>girlfriends or you know, like you're looking for other people

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<v Speaker 2>to fill those different moments, and that's great, Like that's

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<v Speaker 2>all a part of whatever you choose. But for the

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<v Speaker 2>first time in my life, the answer is always you.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, to be able to just be with you,

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<v Speaker 2>to just chill with you and hang with you.

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<v Speaker 1>And you made a face and I was almost going

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<v Speaker 1>to be offended, but I see where you were coming from.

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<v Speaker 1>Now folks didn't see it, but it's almost like you

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<v Speaker 1>frown like ell to you. Now, I know that's not

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<v Speaker 1>where you're coming from. But it's an odd thing to go. Really,

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<v Speaker 1>it seems gross to say out loves especially me. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I would rather you name the sport, you name the event,

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<v Speaker 1>you named pretty much anything. I would like for you

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<v Speaker 1>to be, to be the partner I'm doing it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And that's like, that's a crazy new, amazing thing.

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<v Speaker 2>But I think when I look back at our friendship,

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<v Speaker 2>like you were always a person I wanted to hang with,

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<v Speaker 2>and so it makes sense now that we're together, like

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<v Speaker 2>I just want to experience and see and hear and

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<v Speaker 2>listen and watch all of those things with you. So

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<v Speaker 2>this has been really cool to just like our girls

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<v Speaker 2>are all exactly where they're supposed to be right now,

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<v Speaker 2>all happy and entertained and figuring out life and like

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<v Speaker 2>and without our intervention in any way. So like, you

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<v Speaker 2>actually can't even talk to Sabine right now.

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<v Speaker 1>It sucks and really hard. It really sucks because as

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<v Speaker 1>much as I am used to all day every day

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<v Speaker 1>with Sabine, it's just it's weird and can only get

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<v Speaker 1>a call from her. I think per week just one

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<v Speaker 1>can send care packages, but but to your and I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know if a lot of other people do this.

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<v Speaker 1>We planned every trip we have planned entire summer, had

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<v Speaker 1>to go around the kids' schedules, Like to put all

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<v Speaker 1>this together is kind of nuts, but that's what we

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<v Speaker 1>can have a peace of mind and actually enjoy the

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<v Speaker 1>trip because we know everybody's okay.

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<v Speaker 2>And so yes, so you are not able to speak

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<v Speaker 2>to Sabine, which you know, I went through this with

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<v Speaker 2>my girls when they were younger in summer camp, and

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<v Speaker 2>it is really hard at first. I always feel like

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<v Speaker 2>the first few days are really tough, and then you

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<v Speaker 2>kind of it's like there's a freedom like okay, wow,

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<v Speaker 2>like I'm not responsible, so like, actually, okay, she's good

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<v Speaker 2>and I get to be good and like let's just

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<v Speaker 2>do this and it's healthy for everybody. So it's an

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<v Speaker 2>amazing thing to go through. And yeah, so I'm excited

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<v Speaker 2>that we're going through this right now together and we're

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<v Speaker 2>having fun exploring something that you wouldn't have chosen and

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<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't have necessarily chosen. There was a compromise. The

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<v Speaker 2>compromise was that we stay in one city the entire

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<v Speaker 2>time and we find ways to explore. I am a

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<v Speaker 2>more like jumping from place to place to place. But

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<v Speaker 2>what I'm saying is I have now really embraced your

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<v Speaker 2>way of traveling where you are saying, hey, yes it's

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<v Speaker 2>an adventure, Yes it's a trip, but there can be

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<v Speaker 2>a vacation in there as well, meaning you don't have

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<v Speaker 2>to switch urbos or hotel rooms or cities. Actually just

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<v Speaker 2>stay in one place and kind of just immerse yourself

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<v Speaker 2>in that place. I've never done that before.

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<v Speaker 1>How was this the compromise? How was Rome the compromise

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<v Speaker 1>for me? For you?

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<v Speaker 2>For me immersing myself in one place is not what

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<v Speaker 2>I typically do?

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<v Speaker 1>Wait? What was the other thing you wanted to do?

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<v Speaker 2>Jump around? Jump around, jump around. I would have gone

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<v Speaker 2>to a million different cities. I would have hopscotched all

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<v Speaker 2>across the Mediterranean. And the cool thing is no, I'm saying,

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<v Speaker 2>you're doing things you wouldn't have done, and I'm doing

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<v Speaker 2>things I wouldn't have done. And isn't that cool that

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<v Speaker 2>we're doing them together?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, it's so cool.

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<v Speaker 2>It is the thing.

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<v Speaker 1>We clash on though. You say, I don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>it's vacation styles necessarily, Well I guess it is. We

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<v Speaker 1>don't travel the same. I have traveled all over the world,

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<v Speaker 1>all kinds of adventures, has done some volunteer trips, even

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<v Speaker 1>all kinds of stuff. But when it's time to take

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<v Speaker 1>a vacation, I would like to take a vacation, which

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<v Speaker 1>means I would go like to do nothing, nothing but leisure,

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<v Speaker 1>nothing but leisure. And that's how I describe a vacation

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<v Speaker 1>now this vacation has yet to start for me, because

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<v Speaker 1>I've been going up and down the hills and steps

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<v Speaker 1>and past fountains that don't work, and getting hit by

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<v Speaker 1>vespas and all kinds of stuff. You have me all

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<v Speaker 1>in lines in churches with you know, writings. I can't

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<v Speaker 1>read it. Just this is what's happened so far, and

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<v Speaker 1>I appreciate it. Thank you for this experience that I

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't have otherwise had my love. Thank you for it.

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<v Speaker 2>Please share because this was so fun for me. We

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<v Speaker 2>went to castles on Angelo I had never been, and

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<v Speaker 2>you just walk around. There's ruins, there's just like you know,

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<v Speaker 2>like basically like pieces of travertine and marble that have

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<v Speaker 2>engravings on it, like with Roman numerals. SoJ TJ walks

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<v Speaker 2>past them yesterday and says to me, why do I

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<v Speaker 2>feel like I'm in the first peer one ever? And

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, wow, like actually, like that's fair. Like

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<v Speaker 2>I was looking at what he was saying. I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>I might be able to buy that for twenty nine

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<v Speaker 2>ninety nine at peer one. Like it was actually hilarious,

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<v Speaker 2>And you made a very good point. Okay, there's nothing

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<v Speaker 2>new under the sun. There's the place was cool. It

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<v Speaker 2>was I enjoyed. That was the the Pantheon. The Pantheon,

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<v Speaker 2>which is what it's a church and it's like a

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<v Speaker 2>kind of like a sun dial all in one.

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<v Speaker 1>Cool as all.

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<v Speaker 2>It's amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>It is absolutely amazing. Colosseum. Loved it, fantastic. That was

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<v Speaker 1>a four loves. The other one.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, we went to the Vatican, right, Okay, we went

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<v Speaker 2>to the Vatican. But let me just say this, so

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<v Speaker 2>it was this is so funny, this is so TJ.

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<v Speaker 2>So he's like, Okay, I'm cool going to Saint Peter's

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<v Speaker 2>Square and I can see the Basilica. That's cool. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't need to go to the Vatican Museum. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't need to see the Sistine Chapel and Saint Peter's Basilica. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean I can imagine. We went to a couple

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<v Speaker 2>other basilicas, like it's probably the same. So yeah, we went,

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<v Speaker 2>we saw we didn't go inside.

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<v Speaker 1>That's okay, which is okay. Yeah, but I enjoyed, I

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<v Speaker 1>appreciate it, and I'm glad we went. I told you

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<v Speaker 1>the Coliseum Vatican were the two things that were on

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<v Speaker 1>the list absolutely have to do. Yeah, after that I

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<v Speaker 1>really can't spend the rest of my time in entire

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<v Speaker 1>country walking up and down Copplestone.

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<v Speaker 2>Streets and eating pasta and.

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<v Speaker 1>Homemade pasta, drinking the best wine apple sprits. I could

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<v Speaker 1>spend the rest of my time doing that, all.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, So Italy's good so far at.

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<v Speaker 1>Least great if how much more of that is there?

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<v Speaker 2>Right?

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<v Speaker 1>And the I need to get a ticket type stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>So we are going to traverse a little bit more

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<v Speaker 2>in day trips of the country because it is really

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<v Speaker 2>hot here and so I just wanted to get a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit of a break from the heat wave. It

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<v Speaker 2>was one hundred degrees today, So yeah, I'd like to

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<v Speaker 2>see the seaside a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, okay, yeah, but the touring the next do

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<v Speaker 1>we need a ticket? You need to get and I.

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<v Speaker 2>Understand that that's not your jam. So we've got we

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<v Speaker 2>do have a ticket, a train ticket, but I can

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<v Speaker 2>say we don't have to go to anything else that's

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<v Speaker 2>ticketed at this point.

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<v Speaker 1>Have you done enough a babe, of what you want

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<v Speaker 1>to do as far as you go see another thing

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<v Speaker 1>somewhere and a painting of some kind somebody did great

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<v Speaker 1>value and important.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I don't I don't need to see anything else good.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, yeah, I just don't want really, seriously, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't ever want you to feel like you miss out

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<v Speaker 1>on some type of vacation experience because you're with a

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<v Speaker 1>guy who doesn't vacation the same way.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I'm good. I have seen. I have seen all

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<v Speaker 2>that I need to see.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank god, because that's what's.

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<v Speaker 2>But we still have to run, you know that, we

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<v Speaker 2>still have to run, Like running in Rome is actually

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit of a challenge, just so you know.

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<v Speaker 2>We're also training for the Chicago Marathon, so that's fun

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<v Speaker 2>in a heat wave as well. But yeah, we're figuring

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<v Speaker 2>it out.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we are out. We are outdo we really are?

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<v Speaker 1>On the balcony. If y'all can hear that? That? What?

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<v Speaker 1>What animal is that? Seagull?

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<v Speaker 2>That's very loud and funny?

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<v Speaker 1>All right? The last thing here, I it's a thing backpacks. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>you all help me and tell me. We were seeing

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<v Speaker 1>it so much trobes that we thought something was up.

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<v Speaker 1>But I guess maybe it makes some sense.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, we've had a We actually would love for people

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<v Speaker 2>to help us figure out what it is actually that's

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<v Speaker 2>going on. So never have I seen so many tourists

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<v Speaker 2>traveling around with backpacks on their front, so not in

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<v Speaker 2>the back, which would make sense because they're backpacks. But

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<v Speaker 2>I thought that it was a measure of safety, Like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>so I'm in a city, I'm in Rome, I'm wherever

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<v Speaker 2>in Italy where it's potentially like pickpocketers, et cetera. So

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna put it in my front and that way

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<v Speaker 2>I know my stuff is safe. My wallet, my passport,

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<v Speaker 2>whatever I've got, it's all safe. But you thought that

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<v Speaker 2>maybe something else was going on.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I didn't know. If you're carrying the bag around

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<v Speaker 1>for so long, if it's so if it's on your back,

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<v Speaker 1>you're just giving yourself your body that muscle group that's

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<v Speaker 1>being used to carry the backpack on your back, you're

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<v Speaker 1>giving yourself a little bit of a break carrow on

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<v Speaker 1>the front. For a while, I thought maybe that had

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<v Speaker 1>something to do with as well. The theft thing makes sense.

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<v Speaker 1>There were just so many I don't even want to

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<v Speaker 1>go with fifty percent, but it seemed like it was

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<v Speaker 1>that many folks.

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<v Speaker 2>It might have been fifty percent. I think that's fair.

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<v Speaker 2>But did you also think there was a fashion element

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<v Speaker 2>associated with it? No, you just thought it was a

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<v Speaker 2>pain management situation, and I thought it was a safety

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<v Speaker 2>management but fashion situation. But never fashion. No, no, no, no, no, no, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>because it's not like what we've seen with the sweaters

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<v Speaker 2>or the hoodies that are now no longer wrapped around

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<v Speaker 2>the waist or wrapped around the shoulders, but now the

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<v Speaker 2>trend is to diagonally put them between the waist and

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<v Speaker 2>the shoulder. But that's not what you're talking about.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not what I'm talking about.

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<v Speaker 2>You're laughing because you know it's one of the more

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<v Speaker 2>annoying trends that I personally.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know why I bothered you so much.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry it does. Why because when I do it myself,

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<v Speaker 2>I start laughing so hard and I can't follow through.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't I've never done it, Okay, I just saw it.

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<v Speaker 2>I've like joked and put it like, Okay, what would

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<v Speaker 2>this look like if I did this when I walked

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<v Speaker 2>out the door. And I haven't done I have done

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<v Speaker 2>it in the mirror before. Yeah, but then I'm like laughing,

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<v Speaker 2>So I don't do it. I don't wear it out anyway.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure it looks really cool on everyone else. It

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<v Speaker 2>looks stupid on me.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, folks, we got them hopping around to do.

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<v Speaker 2>We have more to explore. We'll have more, I think

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<v Speaker 2>to share based on what you think of this amazing

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<v Speaker 2>country that you've not really explored before. I can't wait

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<v Speaker 2>to hear all of your thoughts.

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<v Speaker 1>More thoughts, I think we might. What would you think

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<v Speaker 1>you want to do another episode or two while we're

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<v Speaker 1>on the trip.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, let's do it.

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<v Speaker 1>That is, folks, you can keep up with. Actually, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>we should post a couple of pictures from here on

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<v Speaker 1>our official show Instagram page. That's at Amy and TJ Podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe we should get to you with the diagonald I

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<v Speaker 1>could try it. We'll try that and we'll get that posted.

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<v Speaker 2>Good plan if you do it with me.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, folks, thank you all for listening. As always,

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<v Speaker 1>let's talk to all real SA