Speaker 1: Yeah, I ain't fall. When the summer I can get
Speaker 1: fly all my life, all my life, Frank fault. When
Speaker 1: the summer I been getting fly all my life. Sir, Hey,
Speaker 1: we're back Club Fall twenty podcast. I'm the host. My
Speaker 1: name is DJ. To my right, young te you gonna
Speaker 1: notch up my brother. How you feeling, man, I'm good,
Speaker 1: appreciate it. We got one of my guys in the fielding.
Speaker 1: We got one of the ones in the build last
Speaker 1: not at least my far left. I got resident chef.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Bishop Grantley, my boy be here.
Speaker 1: How you feeling Hello? Yeah, Nut, He's been a real
Speaker 1: Sunday right now class when I leave. To my media left, man,
Speaker 1: we got the guy with us. Man, you gotta look down.
Speaker 1: You see the jack. Do you see who's in the chair.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna leftie through the know what I'm saying. See
Speaker 1: you know mother, Hey champion, we share the championship together. Man,
Speaker 1: he's one of them guys. Man, he's a close friend,
Speaker 1: a dude that I appreciate, one dude that I respect. PJ. Tucker,
Speaker 1: NBA Champion, NBA vent Texas Longhorn Legend. I'm so happy
Speaker 1: to have you on the show. Bro Man, it's good
Speaker 1: to be your dog. Hey man, We're happy to have you.
Speaker 1: Been one of the hardest working in the basketball and
Speaker 1: the NBA. You know what I'm saying. Before we get
Speaker 1: in to the episode. You see the taper right here,
Speaker 1: just wonderful bottle right here in the championship basketball right here.
Speaker 1: You can put your ship right here. Advertising to see
Speaker 1: his lovely laptop. We're smacking it right here, PJ. We
Speaker 1: gotta run a drunk right now. We're trying to get
Speaker 1: a million from Sketchers to switch. I'll be here and shoes.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, take off to the pad
Speaker 1: leather pandas I know you the shoe guy. What would
Speaker 1: the type for Sketchers? You know what I'm saying to
Speaker 1: what check they gotta cut to get on your feet?
Speaker 1: So we know you got the best feeds on earth
Speaker 1: right now, we ain't even gonna play them games with you.
Speaker 1: We know how you what, but what Sketchers gotta do
Speaker 1: to get you in the in the what's happenings in
Speaker 1: the shape ups? Man, That's that's that's tough, right listen.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna let you do that. Is that out
Speaker 1: of the pocket in my disrespect. We're gonna we're gonna
Speaker 1: end that question. He is a Nike Listen, I'm in
Speaker 1: my bag right now. I love it blue cups. I'll
Speaker 1: tell you like it's guys who got Nike deals and
Speaker 1: like sponsorships and peas and players and all that. PJ
Speaker 1: got one of them deals. Oh, he got one of
Speaker 1: them deals. And I stole his Kobe six, which one
Speaker 1: them great with the pink. Yeah, they upstairs. My boy
Speaker 1: got a my boy, We ain't gotta worried about schedules.
Speaker 1: He niked for life, but life, he man. He breaded
Speaker 1: himself some will man with those shoes and things. That
Speaker 1: is amazing. We got so many things to talk about,
Speaker 1: but first and foremost, I already started off the episode
Speaker 1: with a bullshit question. You know what I'm saying, being
Speaker 1: with you, being a guy, I ain't even gonna ask how,
Speaker 1: but how was that feeling when you got that car
Speaker 1: and was like, damn you get that Kobe pe What
Speaker 1: was that feeling? Like? Oh, you know what, that was
Speaker 1: one of the best because I wouldn't expecting it, because
Speaker 1: I was asked for for so long. I wasn't expected
Speaker 1: it it was like all right, you know what I'm
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm gonna go like I'm gonna go like
Speaker 1: my deals up. Puma is coming with the bag. Yo
Speaker 1: talking about Puma bags because listen, I will sign with Puma.
Speaker 1: To them, they given like creative direction, like it's like,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, that's like going from home,
Speaker 1: like you listen, it's different control, yeah for real, and
Speaker 1: that like to like they're like all right, you know,
Speaker 1: all right, he go, he go. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: It was like I don't care how you throw that, Like,
Speaker 1: I don't care how you give me them. I'm taking them.
Speaker 1: So that was that was That was special, bro. That
Speaker 1: was special. Man. Shout out to niggas who made nick
Speaker 1: IDs never bottled. It's me. I'm niggas me too. Nig
Speaker 1: class made all the shoes in the world. Ain't buy
Speaker 1: a single one of the motherfuckings. Ninety five. Oh my god.
Speaker 1: When I got a league, that's the first thing. What
Speaker 1: I five. I got some upstairs. That's how we got
Speaker 1: so many places that we can started. We gotta start
Speaker 1: at the beginning, you know what I'm saying, start off
Speaker 1: the hoops. That's you know what I'm saying. Obviously, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. You from the well considered North Carolina,
Speaker 1: the East coast, east coast, but it's South. Having to
Speaker 1: toss up the Virginia about that ship. But yeah, we South,
Speaker 1: not real. How was it, man, You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: growing up getting your ship off obviously used a prospect.
Speaker 1: How was it playing high school basketball in the area
Speaker 1: you was at, because it was a lot of dogs
Speaker 1: where you was at, Man, you was playing against another
Speaker 1: d win like a like a high level D one,
Speaker 1: playing every single game, like every game, somebody's going to
Speaker 1: do one somewhere, and that was wild, Like you can
Speaker 1: shot the Randolph no more. Playing in the country, Eric
Speaker 1: Williams Top twenty. You get Randy Randy Pully like you can.
Speaker 1: Literally every single game it was somebody so you literally
Speaker 1: it was like it was like events like Friday nights.
Speaker 1: It was like in the high school basketball games. It
Speaker 1: was like an event, like it's selling out. You got
Speaker 1: to get there early during the girls game because the
Speaker 1: miss game is going crazy playing the glasshow Smith climb
Speaker 1: back then which now is John wall John took it over.
Speaker 1: But our Christmas tournament is nuts playing at NC State.
Speaker 1: It was huge, man. All the best players in the
Speaker 1: country came down for that. So it was every night
Speaker 1: he playing question about a player. I can't remember his
Speaker 1: name for sure. I think it's Ray John Terry. Is
Speaker 1: that his name? So listen, wait, So I went to
Speaker 1: school in North Carolina, sure did. So I knew about
Speaker 1: p J. I know about it. But they used to
Speaker 1: talk about this dude. Hey, listen, all right, So Ray
Speaker 1: John played with CP. Okay, listen, he might be like
Speaker 1: the one guy I think, like it's a couple of
Speaker 1: dudes I played against like my whole life. I feel like,
Speaker 1: could have been a league. Should have been a league.
Speaker 1: It's like crazy to me that he didn't make it
Speaker 1: a league. But really, because I mean he was really
Speaker 1: like the game now it's like made for hight Like
Speaker 1: he's a real like three four, like could do it all.
Speaker 1: Like was a problem. Bro. Yeah, everybody always my whole time,
Speaker 1: man Carolina, when I was in my two years, they
Speaker 1: always talked about him like he was a dog. They
Speaker 1: will talk about you, they like PJ. He was a dog.
Speaker 1: Obviously they talked about CP. But and he didn't make
Speaker 1: to the league. I don't think he did. He didn't.
Speaker 1: He never made to the league, but he was in
Speaker 1: that in our year three class, Caroline had one scholarship. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and he got it. Damn damn ye he got it.
Speaker 1: Carolina had one scholarship that year. He got it. Is
Speaker 1: that the reason why you went into a CC You know?
Speaker 1: It is no, no bullshit, Like I only wanted to
Speaker 1: go to Carolina Like me and CP used to be like, Oh,
Speaker 1: we're gonna go to go to school together, like uh,
Speaker 1: but my grades were good enough to go to Wait
Speaker 1: like they want to be, Oh, no, Awake, It's fine,
Speaker 1: it's fried. Like if you want to hoop and go
Speaker 1: to Wake, you gotta be a good student. Was Pike
Speaker 1: for fixing it great that you gotta be You damn
Speaker 1: never got to be a great ass student to go
Speaker 1: to Wake the right for real. So they're like, like
Speaker 1: it coach procedent at the time was my guy, Like
Speaker 1: I was. I was down, but it just wasn't. People
Speaker 1: shows love coach procedent, but it wasn't gonna work. It
Speaker 1: wasn't work. It wasn't going. They were like, oh, you
Speaker 1: gotta go to prop blah blah blah blah. I go
Speaker 1: to like I wasn't doing nothing of that, so I
Speaker 1: was like, yo, but it was perfect though. It actually
Speaker 1: worked out because at the time they had Matt Doherty.
Speaker 1: Matt Dougherty was the coach, and I never forget broke
Speaker 1: to this day. Raymond Felton was my brother and Rashaw
Speaker 1: mccains used to look at me every time I would
Speaker 1: go up there and they'd be like, don't come here,
Speaker 1: tass me like a ray should be like, don't come here.
Speaker 1: I swear Ray Ray felt just be like, don't come here, bro,
Speaker 1: like I swear. Bro. He literally told me not to come.
Speaker 1: You need people like like real like friends, like real friends,
Speaker 1: Like no, Bro, like this, ain't it like you've been
Speaker 1: doing a good job at Carolina right, You're gonna be
Speaker 1: real Like Matt Doherty was bad. He was only he
Speaker 1: got fired that year. The same year he got fired,
Speaker 1: he comes Roy Williams, bro, fine to listen. No in
Speaker 1: the ill story. That year we played Carolina in Denver
Speaker 1: Sweet sixteen. That was my team. I had a double double.
Speaker 1: I had fourteen to ten. We beat Carolina. Literally crying,
Speaker 1: I'm beating Carolina. I'm going crazy, shaking hands. Roy Williams,
Speaker 1: shake my hand, I'm the last person grab. It was
Speaker 1: like if I was here, you'll be here right now.
Speaker 1: Damn that meant a lot, didn't Bro. I was like
Speaker 1: a little kid. I was like a little girl. Bro, Bro,
Speaker 1: that's big crazy. Look let me ask you this, though,
Speaker 1: I got your Let me ask you this. So once
Speaker 1: you beat them, like, how you how you feel? How you?
Speaker 1: How you feel? Like? Because I played here? Right? You
Speaker 1: know what I mean? I play I didn't play here.
Speaker 1: I played I when I was a freshman, I mean sophomore.
Speaker 1: I played I you in a big teen ac challenge
Speaker 1: or whatever, and I was just hyped to play on you.
Speaker 1: Like man, it was trash, but we beat them by thirty,
Speaker 1: but I was so hype. How did I feel to
Speaker 1: play CAROLINEA though? Like I played Carolina going away? We
Speaker 1: put and I know how I feel? How that for me?
Speaker 1: Like always, like my dream was to play for Carolina.
Speaker 1: I wanted to make the NBA. The dream is to
Speaker 1: go to are you a little kid from North Carolina?
Speaker 1: The dream is to play for Carolina. Just worry about
Speaker 1: the NBA. It's about playing there. So to not do
Speaker 1: it and then to beat him, it was like that's real.
Speaker 1: Like the tournament was over me. Like I was like
Speaker 1: I'm cool, Like I'm good on everything now, Like yo,
Speaker 1: what mama say what my mom? My mom was huge
Speaker 1: Carolina fan, Michael Jordan fan, Like that's my mom the
Speaker 1: reason I hoop, Like that's all for her. It was
Speaker 1: like crazy, you know what I'm saying. So that was
Speaker 1: that was special. That's a real ship. Damn Roy gave
Speaker 1: you to not Bro. That's man to this day, still
Speaker 1: my dog. That was my squad. That's my had love.
Speaker 1: When he was like Marvel was fucking what he went
Speaker 1: to Atlanta. I said in my head, I'm just thinking,
Speaker 1: like what if p J. Tucker to North Carolina, you
Speaker 1: would have had the vault for real? Before the vault,
Speaker 1: you would have been the guy before like like you
Speaker 1: was already him. But that would have been even crazy.
Speaker 1: If you'd had them kids and what they was rocking
Speaker 1: back then, hoops you know something, Oh boy, your feet
Speaker 1: would have been oh my god. Oh okay. I got
Speaker 1: a question about Texas, like what made you choose Texas though, like, okay,
Speaker 1: you didn't go to Carolina, it's still North Carolina state.
Speaker 1: He said, wake was too hard. He still got dupe Texas.
Speaker 1: Rick Barnes, coach of Texas at the time, was from
Speaker 1: North Carolina coach clems like he got super North Carolina time,
Speaker 1: so he can't ain'tn a lot. He came in and
Speaker 1: won my mom. He came in on the visit, Bro
Speaker 1: and wiped my mom. He walked out of the house.
Speaker 1: My mom was like, you going to Texas and walked
Speaker 1: out the room and went to the bed like she
Speaker 1: was not she like he won my mom's We went
Speaker 1: on the visit. It was Bro. It wouldn't know like
Speaker 1: she made my sasion for me, Like I ain't even picked,
Speaker 1: like she picked for that's my mask because my mom
Speaker 1: made My mom had a dream, no cat, she had
Speaker 1: told me. She woke up and said, you're going away
Speaker 1: for us. I wanted to go to USC if you
Speaker 1: be honest right, because OJ was going it was turned lah,
Speaker 1: I'm going to us. Yeah, the real ones there. I'm
Speaker 1: like Todd was there. I'm like, I want My mom
Speaker 1: was like had a dream, said you're going away for us,
Speaker 1: And once your mom's mama said it was over, it
Speaker 1: was over. I ended up that way. How was it
Speaker 1: when you got there though? For me? Or Bro? When
Speaker 1: you got the text? Man they put me on the plane.
Speaker 1: I had two bags a couple hundred dollars. I am like,
Speaker 1: I had nothing for my dorm room. Bro like dead ass.
Speaker 1: I got there, I had a blanket and sheets. I
Speaker 1: have nothing, bro Like, I literally did baby like real
Speaker 1: like you are, like, I'm just real like. So it
Speaker 1: was like that first a few months was a struggle,
Speaker 1: dog like. I was like going through it like for real.
Speaker 1: And then once you started hooping and everybody like really
Speaker 1: get to know, it was like all right. It was
Speaker 1: like all right, like like once you become that guy's
Speaker 1: like again, oh yeah, that's him. Like it was like
Speaker 1: everything saw falling the place first I would say first
Speaker 1: four or five months, and then when basketball season started,
Speaker 1: it was up and never looked back. From the beginning
Speaker 1: of that. The niggas gave you some bad in the least,
Speaker 1: I'm I said it without saying it. You got to
Speaker 1: talk about game. That guy was whatever you need. That's
Speaker 1: what I wanted to apartment. I got that experience. Like
Speaker 1: you went to Texas, it's fifty thousand students. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: wouldn't screw it was five thousand students. What is that, shorty?
Speaker 1: Because you ain't never gonna ever again. Somebody, you better
Speaker 1: say something because you ain't never gonna seventy thousand people. Bro. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like it's so there you walk into class bro like that,
Speaker 1: like you like, like where am I going? Like that
Speaker 1: auditorium with six seven hundred people in it? So coming
Speaker 1: from like where you come from, Riley, you come from
Speaker 1: right at Lina? Was that like? Because I can't imagine
Speaker 1: I'm from the west side of Indianapolis. If I would
Speaker 1: have went to seventy thousand people, I don't know what
Speaker 1: I would have. Did you know it was this other
Speaker 1: hospitality hit different? Huh yea. He loved Texas. Anybody on
Speaker 1: the team, like any like sophomore, junior, senior, Like you're
Speaker 1: gonna pull you to the side. How a game? All
Speaker 1: of them? Roy Roy Ivy the reason I'm even here?
Speaker 1: Dog like he literally dog. We would go out and
Speaker 1: I'm green, like I'm super green, Like I ain't green,
Speaker 1: but I'm like green to the game like how things work.
Speaker 1: We would go out, we have fun. I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: we want to go back. He's like, no, We're going
Speaker 1: to the gym. I practicingly just got built. So we
Speaker 1: had like the fingerprint joy you know, what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: It's like the first year, so Bro, we will lead
Speaker 1: a spot, go to gym. I'm like, what like when
Speaker 1: you're tripping, Bro, literally least sixth Street, go to arena.
Speaker 1: We're going to work out three in the morning. Damn damn.
Speaker 1: We're playing full quote one on one. We getting shots up.
Speaker 1: Hold on Bro. Like Roy was like he was he's
Speaker 1: going into a senior year. So I ain't even I'm
Speaker 1: not even peeping and really realizing he he fighting to
Speaker 1: get to the league like he fighting, like like make
Speaker 1: it happen. I'm not even peeping my freshman year. I'm
Speaker 1: coming from high school. I'm a little kid. He's trying
Speaker 1: to eat like, but I was a part of that
Speaker 1: process for him to you know what I'm saying. He
Speaker 1: used me like you know what I'm saying, He grew
Speaker 1: me and showing me at the same time, like how
Speaker 1: hard you gotta work and what it takes to get there,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So it was like we
Speaker 1: have fun, but we're gonna get on working too. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's all that's real because he did the same thing
Speaker 1: for me, Like when I came into the NBA, he
Speaker 1: was I don't know if he was. He played for
Speaker 1: the Hawks already, but he was coming back my rookie
Speaker 1: year to be like trying for attend that. But he
Speaker 1: was giving me that same treatment. He be like, hey, y'all,
Speaker 1: you gotta be in the gym. You gotta be doing this.
Speaker 1: And it's like to see him as a coach now,
Speaker 1: it's no other way I can see him, like, hey,
Speaker 1: yeah he playing, he was a coach. Yeah he I mean,
Speaker 1: he deserved all the credit in the world because hardest
Speaker 1: work I ever know. Guy crazy, Yeah, crazy, and that's hard.
Speaker 1: Somebody like that, you know what I'm saying, set the
Speaker 1: tone for you in college. You know what I'm saying
Speaker 1: that people obviously you know who Ivy is real, who
Speaker 1: know who he was. But that's crazy that somebody set
Speaker 1: that tone for you, initiate and you with that process
Speaker 1: you are under classman. He had senior like, nah, this
Speaker 1: is a grind, Like and I'm showing you how you were.
Speaker 1: Now how did that? And patch you like that to
Speaker 1: another level? Man? What once he was going it was like,
Speaker 1: I'm the hardest worker and I'm the best player, damn.
Speaker 1: So it's like, now, ain't nobody It's like my whole
Speaker 1: like emotion towards all that shit. It's all like different
Speaker 1: now because I'm looking at dudes like I'm better than
Speaker 1: you and so I'm it's both effects. Like if we
Speaker 1: got mind you got LaMarcus as number player country coming in, fact,
Speaker 1: we give in whose top guard? Like we got we
Speaker 1: got some guys coming in. But I'm like, nah, this
Speaker 1: is mine, Like I got this like you like come on,
Speaker 1: like you know what I'm saying. And that's what kind
Speaker 1: of like built that culture, like work like because train
Speaker 1: worked LaMarcus, That's that was all built. Bro. Like all
Speaker 1: his jumpers and all the turnarounds I've seen him do. Bro.
Speaker 1: Listen here, Bro, LaMarcus hurt his hip. He hurt his hip.
Speaker 1: He was out for the season. Bro Coase Barnes got
Speaker 1: like this tall like high chair and LaMarcus I swept everything.
Speaker 1: I love. Bro. He would go on his crutches. He
Speaker 1: would sit there in the chair with a with a
Speaker 1: with an assistant. He would just shoot that hog release
Speaker 1: joint he got. Yeah, Bro, I swept one hand, two hand, Bro,
Speaker 1: I set. I've seen the Marcus for hours. Bro, I've
Speaker 1: never in my life. Bro, he was sitting that chair
Speaker 1: he was out for like eight nine months. Bro, he
Speaker 1: was out for like a year for a while. Brou
Speaker 1: he came back like it was over number one pick.
Speaker 1: It should have been number one pick, giving him blues.
Speaker 1: Marcus like about you, nigga, you didn't play with some
Speaker 1: of them won, But what's crazy like people don't give
Speaker 1: you your credit when you was at Texas bro Ye,
Speaker 1: it was nast. I stay years b C I'd be
Speaker 1: having to tell people like Bro, the NBA would dumb
Speaker 1: you down a little bit. Bro, you nasty. I used
Speaker 1: to play with you on Marsh Madness. Bro, you was
Speaker 1: crazy matters. I haven't talking about it. No, you was
Speaker 1: your Marsh Madness, but your handles was weakly. I used
Speaker 1: to go black dog, but you not on my not
Speaker 1: on my Marsh Madness. You was as black God. Damn,
Speaker 1: we gotta make this nigga sinner. He gonna give me
Speaker 1: a double double. Used can't bring this bitch average a
Speaker 1: double double. That's a given. I'm saying that was the
Speaker 1: only thing that yeah five on God. Now for real, Bro,
Speaker 1: I got a home boy named Lewis Bro named Louke Bro.
Speaker 1: He used to be like PJ. Tucker. Oh used to
Speaker 1: be like I used to like I was a fan
Speaker 1: of like ho keen Wards and like random mass nig
Speaker 1: like Jerry mcnamary mellow I was a Syracuse man. Texas
Speaker 1: got them dogs. And then as I'm like, damn, PJ.
Speaker 1: Tucker really be killing. But to see how you play
Speaker 1: in college and then people who don't know ball like
Speaker 1: that to watch you in the NBA, they won't realize,
Speaker 1: like you was a train killer, why we play him?
Speaker 1: Like what like what do we we're giving the money for?
Speaker 1: You're the train killer? Bro? It's what they say really
Speaker 1: as Jeff bro, I ain't know not here like I
Speaker 1: keep it a thousand, Bro, I really like that, Like
Speaker 1: if people don't know like you, like it's a job,
Speaker 1: dog like this, this is a job. This ain't you
Speaker 1: catch me and pick up? It's a whole nother different
Speaker 1: energy like dudes on Instagram like then I'll bust like yo,
Speaker 1: relax my guy. By sometimes you gotta go back and
Speaker 1: like they gotta go back and look bro Texas, bro,
Speaker 1: you you was like three. I actually only played half
Speaker 1: because I got played on the team for we're gonna
Speaker 1: talk about that little thing, yeah, and then we got
Speaker 1: it right back the Texas I love, but even shit,
Speaker 1: I'm a YouTube fanatics, so I know how to recall
Speaker 1: Hans what niggas know. It's different when you and there.
Speaker 1: This ain't this ain't I ma ain't feel you. Bro,
Speaker 1: I get this bitch and carry your ass up. Don't
Speaker 1: don't sleep. I'm a professor. Please please don't get it
Speaker 1: like we can really get it. We can get it
Speaker 1: the fact, give me the ball. I can't get the ball.
Speaker 1: We go get to that. But I got a question
Speaker 1: for you as in Texas. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Texas basketball is cracker. Obviously y'all had a fucking whip.
Speaker 1: But at the same time, you know, the Texas books
Speaker 1: just care about that Texas football. How was that in
Speaker 1: comparison going between that, Like y'all was them niggas, but
Speaker 1: y'all still had to deal with Texas football. Man, they
Speaker 1: just won that championship to sir Twisted, Oh you had
Speaker 1: a vision, bro, That's that's what made that. That's what
Speaker 1: made that dynamic cool. Like that was one time well
Speaker 1: hoops and football like was like this because me and
Speaker 1: Vince like this, this my dog. That's my brother. To
Speaker 1: this day, that's my brother. Yea. It was like we
Speaker 1: all rocking together, like we had like everybody like it
Speaker 1: was like we all rocked together. So it was like
Speaker 1: one mob bro. So we used to like go out
Speaker 1: to hang together. It was like it was like movies.
Speaker 1: Every time you catch us, like it was wild, like
Speaker 1: Austin during that time. I don't know if we're the
Speaker 1: first school, but we're one of the first schools to
Speaker 1: ever be preseason number one and basketball, baseball and football.
Speaker 1: That's tough. Six. How was the vibes on canvas with that,
Speaker 1: because I'm thinking about together, yo yo yo vibes. Austin
Speaker 1: was insane, brost already a great city, but for y'all
Speaker 1: have one one one and the major sports. The street
Speaker 1: was that his baseball there, he was the picture. He
Speaker 1: was about to go number one, like it was. I
Speaker 1: was cracking it was. It was crazy. And watching them
Speaker 1: win the rose Bolt like that was wild. Watching them
Speaker 1: winnow that's enough. That's a moment to find it for
Speaker 1: a lot of people in our airs grip. Like I
Speaker 1: remember watching that USC Texas National championship and I still
Speaker 1: don't know why Reggie Busher that, Reggie, I'm so happy,
Speaker 1: thank you. Reggie was supposed to win. Everybody was rooting
Speaker 1: against I was. I wasn't respect official he was a guy,
Speaker 1: But Reggie Bush was that nig He was the first.
Speaker 1: I was just dancing, bro, like I this this bro,
Speaker 1: this high should I want to do this? I should
Speaker 1: have won with you. I know that that's your man.
Speaker 1: I ain't shut up like the highlights like he's the
Speaker 1: greatest total fucking college football player ever, PJ. He's the greatest.
Speaker 1: Reggie Bush is the greatest college football player ever. He
Speaker 1: went for five. I want to talk about it. Game ever,
Speaker 1: elite mix tapes Both Jackson. I don't even know. You
Speaker 1: don't know? Are you disrespect We wasn't watching bout Jackson
Speaker 1: is the best score ever in the NBOD. I wasn't.
Speaker 1: I'm not as old as you like. How old are you?
Speaker 1: Like you said, we're not watching both Jackson? We went?
Speaker 1: We didn't, nigga, you didn't grow up watching fucking bout
Speaker 1: Jackson runabout like you did Reggie Bush. You saw more
Speaker 1: Reggie Bush than you did about you ain't you ain't nigga?
Speaker 1: You ain't Dominique wickas age. Nigga? We did you? PJ. Tucker,
Speaker 1: No watching Barry sad Brown. Yeah you you ain't PJ Brown?
Speaker 1: What respect? Respect nigga? Thirty eight? Listen, you are watching
Speaker 1: about Jacks Wake was watching very sad, watching like Reggie Bush.
Speaker 1: I thought Reggie Bush was nice the god, but this
Speaker 1: your nigga. But I didn't have five that was I
Speaker 1: wish you would have won Heisman. He did. Allegations, allegation
Speaker 1: they took it away. Alright, cool, it's a great transition. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: let's see your motherfucker for that. Yeah, hiding away. I'm
Speaker 1: still hot. I'm still hot, all right. So look, you
Speaker 1: go from Texas doing killing. Let's not get fucked up.
Speaker 1: You was killing when the draft come. Do you like
Speaker 1: you expected to be a first round My draft was
Speaker 1: trash too. I ain't gonna hold you. Our draft is
Speaker 1: one of the worse, like it is, it's raided one
Speaker 1: of the worst, damn. So I literally was sitting there
Speaker 1: like I could tem I know, I'm going, yeah, all right,
Speaker 1: next one, you know, like yeah, I know the draft
Speaker 1: is different, Like the draft is like that real, like yeah,
Speaker 1: like that's just different. It really is. And you can
Speaker 1: it's funny like even now, like I still went to
Speaker 1: this day like you couldn't tell me like right now
Speaker 1: back then the shooting in like this and like it's
Speaker 1: just be like two people from my class to the
Speaker 1: league and I'll be one of them. Yeah, Like I've
Speaker 1: been like y'all get the Like, sup, that's hard. That's hard.
Speaker 1: You know how crazy? Wow it is? It's wild, it
Speaker 1: really is. And the way it happened, like you know,
Speaker 1: being out come back like like all coming on the
Speaker 1: back end of it, like yeah, not giving up because
Speaker 1: it was like I tried to give up a couple
Speaker 1: of times, Like I really was like yeah, I'm done,
Speaker 1: Like I'm done. Yeah, I tell you your rookie year
Speaker 1: you with Toronto. Yes, sir, I'd never forget were on
Speaker 1: a bus. You got one of the most fire stories.
Speaker 1: I feel like, the most inspirational stories ever. Like he
Speaker 1: told me a story that made me feel like, damn,
Speaker 1: I wish I would have heard that story when I
Speaker 1: was in my first second year. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Would you be able to tell us a story about
Speaker 1: I would really tell it? Because all right, So he
Speaker 1: tells me a story about Toronto. We own a bus,
Speaker 1: him in the back of the bus and he's like, Yo,
Speaker 1: you know what's crazy, bro? When I was in Toronto,
Speaker 1: I thought I was a ship. He's like, yo, I
Speaker 1: had this house, I had a penhouse, I was living.
Speaker 1: I was doing this and I wasn't playing like that.
Speaker 1: But I wasn't working that hard. And they had a camp.
Speaker 1: They had a basically a cam corder, recorded me in
Speaker 1: my workouts and doing shit that I was doing, and
Speaker 1: they basically pulled me in the office and showed me
Speaker 1: what I was doing, how I wasn't working, how I
Speaker 1: wasn't doing this, and he got cut. And to know that.
Speaker 1: If I would have knew that when I was in
Speaker 1: my first second year, I would have liked, if people
Speaker 1: do that, I would have carried myself totally different, even
Speaker 1: though I wasn't fucked up. But I would have been like,
Speaker 1: damn because I respected him, Like I see him at Texas.
Speaker 1: He did more ship at Texas? How did that way
Speaker 1: for us? Yeah? You know what I mean. So I'm like,
Speaker 1: if I would have heard that for a young guy now,
Speaker 1: I would love for him to tell it because different
Speaker 1: I like you, because it's like you can like I
Speaker 1: tell this story so many times, even the young guys now,
Speaker 1: and you can respect it and understand it because you
Speaker 1: can look at it in hindsight. But guy's in a
Speaker 1: position now with all the podcasting each talking about it
Speaker 1: a little bit like they get it, so they try
Speaker 1: to listen to a little bit more. But it's like
Speaker 1: until it happened to you, that shit don't hit it,
Speaker 1: don't hit like really high, like that stomach. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, When that stomach drop, when you ain't
Speaker 1: got no job and at least something on that penthouse
Speaker 1: and you ain't got no check and you you ain't
Speaker 1: you get your mom, your mom mortgages, you bought that
Speaker 1: new h that crib like it's like that shit hit different,
Speaker 1: like it really do. And then from a basketball standpoint,
Speaker 1: you like so high on being that guy right like
Speaker 1: you like like I'm all American, Like I'm him, Like, yo,
Speaker 1: what are we talking? Hold up? Like, Oh, i ain't
Speaker 1: gonna something in the night, all right, I've been ready tomorrow.
Speaker 1: Oh oh, I'm not stubbing it. So now I'm not
Speaker 1: working because I'm like, yo, I'm him, y'all not playing me.
Speaker 1: It's it's the trickle down the ball that like. And
Speaker 1: then on the end and slept that like and that's
Speaker 1: how you've been working Yeah, it's like at some moments,
Speaker 1: it's like it's either you're gonna be like not the
Speaker 1: same for me, it's they fault, or you're gonna be like, Yo,
Speaker 1: I ain't shit bro, like I'm really on some bullshit.
Speaker 1: And that's like the changes like that that intersection where
Speaker 1: it's like you're gonna go that way and blame them
Speaker 1: and not stand up and be a man and you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, or you're gonna be like, Yo,
Speaker 1: I'm on bullshit. I gotta get my shit together. What
Speaker 1: you do? What? Like? What was you What was your
Speaker 1: reaction when you saw that ship though? Like, bro, I
Speaker 1: feel like shit, Bro, that's the worst moment of my
Speaker 1: life to this day. Yeah, I've never there's anohing that
Speaker 1: can talk there because you talk all this shit. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you with your boys, you're like you know what it
Speaker 1: is like you like, yeah, give me the ball, like
Speaker 1: I'm here like only shit and then to watch yourself,
Speaker 1: you're like, yo, I ain't ship, bro, Like I'm really
Speaker 1: a bad person, Like I'm really like I'm faking shit,
Speaker 1: Like I'm really fake. That changed your whole everything. It
Speaker 1: changed my life. That should changed my life. Yeah, that
Speaker 1: was some ship. Though, and you gotta look back to
Speaker 1: Roya was trying to show you. He showed me that's
Speaker 1: what makes it real because he like, yo, look we
Speaker 1: in here, like we're in here, we here on the
Speaker 1: number one, number one team in the count. You starting
Speaker 1: guard like he he in there. I've seen him do it.
Speaker 1: That's crazy. Yeah, but that's what the league due though,
Speaker 1: that's the league. Now I'm getting checked. Now you think
Speaker 1: you made it right? Now you now you made it right?
Speaker 1: All right? First deal? You feel like I got that
Speaker 1: new escalator. Listen, man, my mom, crib no man, ain't
Speaker 1: nothing nobody can tell me. Relaxed, no start, that's shit going.
Speaker 1: I was like, yo, know all that little check you're
Speaker 1: just that's going already. Yeah, So what happened after you
Speaker 1: did that? After that happened? What was the next step
Speaker 1: for you? I was out. I was gonna say the Europe.
Speaker 1: I was out. I didn't even waits Cleveland, bunch of calls.
Speaker 1: I was going on. I already signed a deal. I
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, I'm going over. Sam Mitchell was like yo.
Speaker 1: And sam Mitchell was a blessing too because he had
Speaker 1: already played, you know, he played in Europe. Boo came back.
Speaker 1: He was like, yo, you go to Europe. He's like,
Speaker 1: I'm telling he's gonna be the best thing that ever ever.
Speaker 1: Damn mind you, he's my NBA coach. I'm looking at
Speaker 1: him like, man, what man can be all the way
Speaker 1: looking at him like, yo, ain't no way. He told
Speaker 1: me that should like it was like February that year.
Speaker 1: It was super like early in the year, and I'm
Speaker 1: looking like, man, we're in the NBA, bro, like, what
Speaker 1: are you talking about? Dead ass? That's as soon as
Speaker 1: that should happened in our head. Boom we out signed
Speaker 1: to Israel. Damn the best thing I ever did. How
Speaker 1: was that amazing? They say Israel like israels like Miami,
Speaker 1: New York in Europe like that. It's like that my
Speaker 1: little brother with the Israel. He told me what stuff
Speaker 1: you see on TV on CNN, it ain't nothing like that,
Speaker 1: I'm telling you right now. So as you lands like
Speaker 1: New York City on the oh, this nigga he always
Speaker 1: he always out of pocket. All right, the warfare too,
Speaker 1: that's cracking over there. Then be the same ones be
Speaker 1: like get over there, be like hey boy, coming back
Speaker 1: and mom on the phone. So you go, you go
Speaker 1: to Israel. How long do you stay overseas? And like
Speaker 1: because you was overseas, you was you was killing I
Speaker 1: was killing Brow. You was him overseas. Like bro, that's
Speaker 1: and this is why I'm talking about, Like that ship
Speaker 1: made me who I am now? Okay, because being the
Speaker 1: man and like winning chips and winning vps and like
Speaker 1: really going at it like I want that year, I
Speaker 1: want both? Uh you after that winning VP by winn
Speaker 1: the chip? We lost some chip? Like it like being
Speaker 1: the guy makes you understand what it takes to be
Speaker 1: the guy the guy needs. Damn that's a bar know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I might say that again, b yeah,
Speaker 1: like really it really is like and that being the
Speaker 1: guy over there made me like mold, like who I
Speaker 1: who I am now and who I've been over the
Speaker 1: last six seven years. It's like really understanding that right,
Speaker 1: Like I had some of the most amazing ROW guys
Speaker 1: on my team over the years. And get back in
Speaker 1: the league and building myself again, it was like, oh,
Speaker 1: I know how, I know exactly how to do that,
Speaker 1: Like that's easy. Yeah, but what was the process getting
Speaker 1: back to the league. I mean, going overseas and then
Speaker 1: being a star like a lot of people like I
Speaker 1: see Shane Larkin, Yeah, but he don't want to come
Speaker 1: back to the league. And I didn't either. I just
Speaker 1: signed a huge deal, like I didn't. I wasn't trying
Speaker 1: to come back. I did ask. I was done. Bro,
Speaker 1: I'm seeing you know, I'm seeing all these do sign
Speaker 1: these deals. I'm like, I'm like, man, I'm cool on
Speaker 1: that ship, like for real, Like I'm good, Like I'm
Speaker 1: over here, built myself up. I signed this huge deal.
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm good. I had an NBA out to
Speaker 1: August fifteen, Summarly Phoenix offered me to do and I
Speaker 1: was like, no, I'm good. Damn. I was like I'm good.
Speaker 1: I'm like I'm good. He's like, nah, yo, you like
Speaker 1: you're tripping, Like no, this is it. I'm like, no,
Speaker 1: I'm good, Like I don't want to do it. They
Speaker 1: literally had to talk me into it, bro, Damn, Like
Speaker 1: how you like that sounds crazy? Right? You're like, yo,
Speaker 1: you're lying, like talked me into like sign it back
Speaker 1: with the NBA. Nah. I understand the ground of the
Speaker 1: NBA and how you can go from being so high
Speaker 1: oversea star being that guy you back in the ground
Speaker 1: of being nobody. It's like I'm everything over there. Yea,
Speaker 1: that's over there going crazy. Let's see if statues, you know,
Speaker 1: I mean like it's it's crazy. Yeah, no statues for real. Real.
Speaker 1: It's different. It's different besides your Asian forcing it. I'm
Speaker 1: the NBA is always a dream. So DIDAD come back
Speaker 1: into your head? Like, yo, I still don't think I
Speaker 1: was gonna what happened and it happening. I still don't
Speaker 1: think I was going like the money I did and
Speaker 1: do all that, Like I still don't see all that.
Speaker 1: I ain't see it yet. So when you're signed back
Speaker 1: with the Phoenix, what was your vibe like just being
Speaker 1: able to get on the court. I was like, yuays,
Speaker 1: you want to play? Mind you? Mike Beasley just signed
Speaker 1: like it's a bunch of wings. They just signed West
Speaker 1: like it was a bunch of guys. It's a good team,
Speaker 1: like solid team. So it's like, yo, here we go.
Speaker 1: But I'd already like implemented like the grind, like I
Speaker 1: had already like been all that stuff from from like
Speaker 1: I was already So when I got there, it was
Speaker 1: like I was on. So it was like, yeah, I
Speaker 1: know you. It was different because we're competing against you, right,
Speaker 1: So when you came in, Mike Beasley number two picks posted,
Speaker 1: you know, supposed to be that guy. When we competed
Speaker 1: against you, it was like, Yo, don't bring PJ up
Speaker 1: in the picking row, Like, don't bring him up like
Speaker 1: he about to play hardest, Like get the other nigga
Speaker 1: up here, Like, don't bring him up in pick he
Speaker 1: about the guard the ship out. You and I could
Speaker 1: tell the energy and the effort you was playing with,
Speaker 1: but you could tell like, yo, I'm playing for something, right,
Speaker 1: Like I'm playing for my life. Like it's different. You know,
Speaker 1: it's different when you get them kind of guys, it's
Speaker 1: like really fighting for their life, like I don't know
Speaker 1: if I'm gonna be here, and and I'll respect the
Speaker 1: Bees like Bees is one of the best players I've
Speaker 1: ever had in my life. Cold literally would destroy me
Speaker 1: in practice daily. Cold Oh god, my high school. At college,
Speaker 1: he was getting forty and you know James, we went
Speaker 1: to his college game. They played with same state. Yeah,
Speaker 1: forty and twenty different. You know, it's crazy. Back in
Speaker 1: that time period, it wasn't too crazy. Who was going
Speaker 1: over one between Bees and d rows niggas forgetting real.
Speaker 1: It was real close, it was, and I was picking big,
Speaker 1: he was getting forty. You know, I was still Rose still.
Speaker 1: He was rob Bill Walker fan though, yeah, fu with
Speaker 1: but I knew. I knew all about huh huh, No
Speaker 1: you said you was more. I don't know, he's doing
Speaker 1: too much. What I'm saying Bill, Bill Walker played, I'm
Speaker 1: going like fires, he's trying to be but directed just
Speaker 1: trying to I'm little with the lighter fla, just saying
Speaker 1: I know what to know. Shout out to my nigga, Bill,
Speaker 1: don't do that. But Mike Beasley first Rose, I'm just saying,
Speaker 1: give me Derek Rose. I'm not wrong. Listen, it was
Speaker 1: my favorite top five. Oh my god, listens, let's get back.
Speaker 1: How was your st in Phoenix though? How was that
Speaker 1: like for you? Everything? It's really because it was the
Speaker 1: opportunity meets timing, Like it was like the priv time
Speaker 1: in my career and I was ready for it, and
Speaker 1: it was like it was really like my rookie year,
Speaker 1: like it's how it should have been, what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: and that's how I took it. It was like I
Speaker 1: don't even counting that, Like that was still like whatever like,
Speaker 1: this is it right here? And that's how I carried
Speaker 1: it every game, bro, Like I really like like took
Speaker 1: control of it, you know what I'm saying. And I
Speaker 1: had the right coach of staff, like it was perfect, bro.
Speaker 1: And then like real talk from being fifteen man in
Speaker 1: August when I signed, I was starting on thirty first damn.
Speaker 1: And I ain't. Look I've been starting ever since. How
Speaker 1: you earned that ship? You know what's crazy? I don't
Speaker 1: know what year this was for my Phoenix, but the
Speaker 1: W Hotel was popping, fucking this is my Nigga. We
Speaker 1: gonna talk W Hotel popping me. A couple of the
Speaker 1: guys pull up. They're like, yo, you've seen PJ Tucker whip.
Speaker 1: I'm like, who, sir? I'm like, who who got the
Speaker 1: They like PJ Tucker. I'm like, I ain't see it.
Speaker 1: They like, go out. Nigga had a Mercedes. But what's
Speaker 1: the ship? You know what I'm talking about? What's the one?
Speaker 1: The bro? He had a Mercedes. Nigga's like, go outside.
Speaker 1: The wings is up? I go outside. It's him the wings.
Speaker 1: I'm like, who is he? They like, oh, he went
Speaker 1: overseas and guys, millions. He came back this light paper
Speaker 1: where he how much getting they got me thinking about
Speaker 1: going over Sam like they get how much over seas?
Speaker 1: He's like yeah he got damn Like damn you that
Speaker 1: going over? Yeah, I'm the guy. Bro. That was my
Speaker 1: first time ever seen and I'm like, Yo, that car crazy.
Speaker 1: I never seen that ship. That was different too because
Speaker 1: I came back. I know I had anything, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So it was like it's different. Everybody's
Speaker 1: looking at me like like where you come from? Yeah,
Speaker 1: that shit was was crazy. I'm outside like nigga, it's
Speaker 1: niggas that's been in the league with hundreds of millions
Speaker 1: talking about this nigga car and I'm like, shut the tone. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And to know him now, it's like I get it.
Speaker 1: I get it now, I know him as I get it.
Speaker 1: But to go for Phoenix, you know, had a success
Speaker 1: that you had playing, but to start seeing young dudes
Speaker 1: like TJ, Devin Booker and them to call you the og,
Speaker 1: Like how that feels that shit was different because you instantly,
Speaker 1: like I instantly become og like without a lot of
Speaker 1: like NBA years. Yeah, right, Like it's like because they
Speaker 1: respect like they with me every day, so they see
Speaker 1: how hard I work and all that stuff and how
Speaker 1: I've been around. But it's like I'm around and you
Speaker 1: know I'm around, So I like directly relate to them
Speaker 1: and they're like yo, like you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I'm taking them to dinner. I'm like I'm doing I'm
Speaker 1: doing everything, and they around me and to be og,
Speaker 1: It's like I wasn't even looking at it like that
Speaker 1: for real, like especially in the beginning, like like especially
Speaker 1: like the book years, I didn't look at it like that,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Like, so now even to
Speaker 1: like he's still with every time, like we talked, like
Speaker 1: I'll be like, bro, like that's hard know you and
Speaker 1: play on the team with you, like you got the
Speaker 1: type of energy that make you like fun with you.
Speaker 1: Like like even just being on the podcast now, we
Speaker 1: all been joking for hours before, so you feel his energy.
Speaker 1: But like to be with that around that every day,
Speaker 1: I can see how young guy be like yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I want to learn from him because I see how
Speaker 1: hard you work, like me and him shooting shots. I've
Speaker 1: been walking on my last leg. I really don't give
Speaker 1: a fuck. If we'd being honest, I didn't give a fuck,
Speaker 1: but I'm shooting against him because I know he give
Speaker 1: a fuck, like he cared like he and we're shooting.
Speaker 1: We haven't shootouts. This nigga shoot for hours. I'm like,
Speaker 1: I'm like, yo, I'm about to go to my half
Speaker 1: of a bedroom apartment. It's not a full bedroom's a
Speaker 1: half a bedroom. It's how much I didn't give a
Speaker 1: I had a half a bedroom apartment. No, no, it
Speaker 1: will cost it half bedroom apartment. So this nigga one
Speaker 1: day gonna say fuck you, No you never went to
Speaker 1: this groom. Not put him outside? He came outside. I said, bro,
Speaker 1: really living in the trap the trap room? No, the
Speaker 1: fuck you? Not pulling up? But not see how hard
Speaker 1: where I see how young guy you didn't want to
Speaker 1: be around. And that's how I like, like really like
Speaker 1: books the one because book was like one that I
Speaker 1: like really like from day one, him getting drafted to
Speaker 1: like pushing him and like really like putting it like
Speaker 1: like being like yo, you him bro, like before he
Speaker 1: even like and he knew he was him. But it's
Speaker 1: like I hadn't guarded. I hadn't guarded these guys. I
Speaker 1: guard these guys every night, like you got that bro,
Speaker 1: like like you you're not just good, like you're about
Speaker 1: to be legendary, like you one of them, like and
Speaker 1: he really like, bro listen to see his progression like
Speaker 1: so fast. It was like from being like Brooked to
Speaker 1: like Rook the best player on our team, like like
Speaker 1: now like starting college. Bro listen, Bro, it was like
Speaker 1: like it shout out, like like a blow out of
Speaker 1: gun Bort. Every day it was like he would do something.
Speaker 1: Everybody be like yo, like oh my god, Like Nigga,
Speaker 1: I started. I guarded him the first game he started
Speaker 1: in Atlanta. He started Earl Watson started the Nigga. I
Speaker 1: guarded him, and I'm like, you know, I'm like, what
Speaker 1: the he shotts. I'm not lying. I don't know what
Speaker 1: he had. We beat We beat the best when he
Speaker 1: was rolling best. I'm sucking what you don't say that
Speaker 1: on this podcast. It was he disrespects what you ever
Speaker 1: seen see you ever seen the little giants. He was
Speaker 1: the fucking quarterback that weekend. See, don't be up here.
Speaker 1: Are you laughing this shit? I'm serious, nigga. I'm talking
Speaker 1: about that weekend about your Rook story. Nigga, No, I'm
Speaker 1: talking about your rook story. Don't ever say that this
Speaker 1: was best freaking he always do that. I told you,
Speaker 1: we hate I try to get out our team. That
Speaker 1: was tough, but Themorrow just left. Yeah. I tried. Oh yeah, listen,
Speaker 1: No he was he was in Toronto. What year was
Speaker 1: that was seven, sixteen seventeen. Yeah, you was in Toronto
Speaker 1: and we was talking about him. See, I would you
Speaker 1: because if you would have replaced the more, yeah, P
Speaker 1: would have got the Austro not out of the Toronto.
Speaker 1: So I'm like, damn, we should get him. Nigga guard Bron.
Speaker 1: We couldn't fuck with b We couldn't with Bron. Nobody could.
Speaker 1: I respected. I was like during that time, nobody, listen,
Speaker 1: no wife, nobody, I can fight him. I can fight
Speaker 1: he ain't give a fuck about going Bron. Right at
Speaker 1: this time, I feel like I'm like, yeah, we got
Speaker 1: fun niggas. Bron get brobed everybody. I don't believe you
Speaker 1: just said that. I only fuked him because my niggas,
Speaker 1: my nigga get thirty or any night. But they every
Speaker 1: time I used to see them come across the little ESPN,
Speaker 1: these whole ass niggas to one again, they went on
Speaker 1: the stupid streak too. They were winners. I'm like that, nigga.
Speaker 1: But they used to like it would be a different
Speaker 1: leading score to really really move the bulls, to really run.
Speaker 1: I used to I used to hate playing him, so
Speaker 1: his all start of that ship was definitely desired to
Speaker 1: give him all of them, and people hate it on it,
Speaker 1: hold on, hold one, probably go ahead. They only he's
Speaker 1: supposed to have two or three. They almost put the
Speaker 1: whole team on. I'm gonna tall right now, ch cargo
Speaker 1: round or not. He was nothing. He was disrespectful. I
Speaker 1: loved it. Were you gonna disrespect we got? That's what's
Speaker 1: not gonna talking about. We're not gonna's not happening. That's
Speaker 1: that's my listening, all right. So after after Phoenix words,
Speaker 1: you go to Toronto. Right before we get to Toronto,
Speaker 1: I want to talk about when when niggas really started
Speaker 1: to notice that you was the guy. Because I remember,
Speaker 1: obviously I pay attention to Jeff No, I pay attention
Speaker 1: to Heat, but I'll never forget dog. When you pulled
Speaker 1: out the fucking red Octobers and Phoenix, I said, oh
Speaker 1: this is differ. He had the Sean Mary and Jordan's
Speaker 1: and Phoenix. This is why I came across this grind
Speaker 1: because I thought I was like him. This nigga got
Speaker 1: he pease that wasn't outside for peas. Yeah, you can
Speaker 1: look at this camera defeats. We know I wasn't gonna
Speaker 1: go to the shoot part. No, No, I just had it.
Speaker 1: I was hoop story up. We could go there. No,
Speaker 1: we could get to the hoop. But I couldn't pass
Speaker 1: Phoenix for not that I question when I played for
Speaker 1: the Pacers. Okay, let's let's talk about it. Okay, remember
Speaker 1: we had we had so I met me and p
Speaker 1: got cooled from some rock and NBA All Star. I'm
Speaker 1: just gonna leave it there. But so I not this nigga.
Speaker 1: But I'm on the Pacers now with l and Lands
Speaker 1: shoots the last second shot. The time is running out.
Speaker 1: Only Jeff it's five seconds left, lags in. We up
Speaker 1: like ten only Jeff. He hits the lay up. I'm like, damn,
Speaker 1: I know what this is about to come with your
Speaker 1: Mari pj A B line to let Oh yeah, ain't
Speaker 1: like you bitch ass nigga. I'm like, whoa lessons on
Speaker 1: my tea. So I'm like y'all gotta chill. Lass is
Speaker 1: walking straight to the tunnel. They like we gonna suck
Speaker 1: them up. So I like, I ain't about to do shit.
Speaker 1: I'm not taking no texts, no fires, nothing. It ain't
Speaker 1: my it ain't my battle. So I'm like, yo, y'all, chill, y'all,
Speaker 1: chill to morrow. Like no, you got me fucked up.
Speaker 1: Teath PJ said little Nigga. I said, we just had
Speaker 1: some rock together, y'all, little day weekends together. Game next, bro,
Speaker 1: but lifted bro to this bro. You know, let me
Speaker 1: say this first. It was part about the story. You know,
Speaker 1: YouTube is with the kids and shit like eleven like
Speaker 1: he who bro myself was like yo, that why you
Speaker 1: was so mad at like like you was wilding like nah,
Speaker 1: I'm like nah, it's a respect thing. So like NBA
Speaker 1: like Games over, like you you're still trying to score,
Speaker 1: like game over, Like, ain't nobody trying to dribble it out.
Speaker 1: You dribble it out, you hold the ball. It's respects, integrity,
Speaker 1: like it's what you do. Like yeah, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Games over and he faked like he was
Speaker 1: gonna dribble it out. He went to score, you know,
Speaker 1: and I ain't like that. He's like okay, but he
Speaker 1: still was looking like you wild. But I'm like na
Speaker 1: like to this day, like yeah, that was his first
Speaker 1: game back. Yes, bro, And that's what like, I don't know,
Speaker 1: like for me, that's what like triggered me even more.
Speaker 1: It was like he's trying to like boost he talked
Speaker 1: about this. I was like, I know in the locker room,
Speaker 1: I do sit on the court the niggas. Mind you.
Speaker 1: We're thinking we're gonna play them in the playoffs, right,
Speaker 1: so it's like we're about to like so that's how
Speaker 1: I just got there. But they're like, yo, they've been
Speaker 1: bad on in the end all year, like like are
Speaker 1: giving me the backstory? Somebody? Alright cool? So when they
Speaker 1: beat us, it was like a thing like we're about
Speaker 1: to play him in the playoffs, like all right, So
Speaker 1: it was like Susie did that. It was like all right, yeah,
Speaker 1: I think y'all was a two seed. We around lost
Speaker 1: another game. We had lost they and and it didn't
Speaker 1: matter all that bullshit that went on because Cleveland before
Speaker 1: I said that was we gonna play. That was the
Speaker 1: most unstoppable Lebron James that year. That was first year
Speaker 1: back in Cleveland, right, that was first year back unstoppable. Listen, listen, listen,
Speaker 1: I'm there's I'm not even the big it that that
Speaker 1: Lebron was unstoppable when he went against Paul Person and
Speaker 1: when he was in a Miami Jersey. What year was
Speaker 1: that twelve when he was that nigga was fresh year
Speaker 1: back in Cleveland, had the weekends mustache, the k he
Speaker 1: was eating, he was killing. Listen that he was. He
Speaker 1: was showing like how like like he showed the physicality
Speaker 1: that year of like niggas can't really like physically different
Speaker 1: guard me, Like that was the first time I was
Speaker 1: because I thought I thought I could guard, like really
Speaker 1: really guard Brian until that point and I was like,
Speaker 1: I can't you ever thought you thought you could ever
Speaker 1: regarding Will, But that was like he just like he
Speaker 1: showed that year after the All Star because that's when
Speaker 1: he had a three too, because that's when the three
Speaker 1: point ball came. He was doing the right step. That
Speaker 1: we had a game, we had we had Tourious ship.
Speaker 1: I think it was that you he had tourious shit
Speaker 1: and we had a game and I think I had
Speaker 1: gave Delladova like something crazy and I talked about it's
Speaker 1: gonna be a long like, it's gonna be a long
Speaker 1: fucking night. He was like, can you score more than me? Niggas?
Speaker 1: And I was like, yeah, told you that, No, bro,
Speaker 1: I say that. Yeah. Look the crowd feeling about yeah, bro, Like,
Speaker 1: what are you going to show me? I had eighteen
Speaker 1: eighteen that series? Oh my god, I had. So when
Speaker 1: when did the league start noticing you for your fashion ship?
Speaker 1: When did that become a thing? Like what you think that?
Speaker 1: All that shit came from me and James from Houston.
Speaker 1: The whole tone of thing was like that, the evolution
Speaker 1: of that, the way Houston built too. It was perfect too,
Speaker 1: because the way you know how it is like that
Speaker 1: that walk away right there, It's a long ass like
Speaker 1: walk away and it's like really like a walk away.
Speaker 1: And it was just built off that. So y'all started
Speaker 1: the tunnel flicks. We definitely talk about it. I'm just
Speaker 1: saying now, these niggas was real life like flies. No,
Speaker 1: they was like real life setting up shot every one
Speaker 1: time we played them. Yeah, and I'm like, you know,
Speaker 1: I don't wear ship. Yeah, me and y'all is the
Speaker 1: same person. I can't get my checking, come live in
Speaker 1: the right right, try to presship. So we about play
Speaker 1: them and they stopping. Damn they whips. It's crazy. So
Speaker 1: I'm I'm like these niggas car is crazy. I like cars.
Speaker 1: I'm like that cars are nice, but they're not coming in.
Speaker 1: Damn these niggas white. No, like kill these niggas. We
Speaker 1: like they gonna wait, like but no, they come in
Speaker 1: with shit. I'm like, this production, it's dressed. PJ had
Speaker 1: came more. Can we played them in the playoffs? Think
Speaker 1: it had like a suit on. I'm like, what the fuck?
Speaker 1: And James had some ship and I'm like, ah, these
Speaker 1: niggas are serious. I had an I'm like advantage of that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they made it. It was like turning that into like
Speaker 1: fashion week and like knowing brands and getting stuff and
Speaker 1: like yeah, and like took it to a whole nother
Speaker 1: level and like now I love it because you see
Speaker 1: so many young guys now like but it's like we
Speaker 1: like really we didn't try to do it, but it
Speaker 1: was just kind of our styles. Like I was already
Speaker 1: I've been getting dressed every game, but Houston, like social media,
Speaker 1: they took it to another level. Yeah, for sure. Since
Speaker 1: we transitioned off basketball like you had very We're gonna nigga,
Speaker 1: you you know you an NBA champion. We're gonna get
Speaker 1: to our Milwaukee shit. But fact that how you got
Speaker 1: fashion going and how people are responding to it and
Speaker 1: the NBA is amazing, like playing with you. Used to
Speaker 1: come in the locker rind like Yo, this nigga really
Speaker 1: just put shit on and I ain't no grouping nigga
Speaker 1: really fresh, like I used to be shitty because I
Speaker 1: would be like, fuck, like look at my sentiality again,
Speaker 1: I be like and then I was shooes and then
Speaker 1: he had come with some shit like you see these
Speaker 1: the fuck I ain't got this nig different and he
Speaker 1: made me quit. I retired from sneakers and I'm show
Speaker 1: love because my nigga. He humbled, But Jeff been about that.
Speaker 1: Jeff been had that shit. Really do he really got
Speaker 1: it him with that young two niggas I know who
Speaker 1: was about this word. But when he told me how
Speaker 1: you was operating, I said, ye, it's different. I told you.
Speaker 1: I humble out. He came in talking. Though he first
Speaker 1: came he was like got those like man, what I
Speaker 1: got this? I'm like, oh, I'm like, where you got that? Like, okay, okay,
Speaker 1: Jeff got some he started bringing shit. I'm like, okay,
Speaker 1: got some work. Then they got spoken gott while you
Speaker 1: had two closes and locker room. He got ugly fast.
Speaker 1: That nigga had he had Kobe Peace. I was like,
Speaker 1: damn and no, that's and that was like that'st like minimum.
Speaker 1: That ain't even like every day. Yeah, that's not not
Speaker 1: even fire. When that nigga came with Lebrons that Lebron
Speaker 1: didn't have, the Bron stuff is where you go like
Speaker 1: next level. He had test shoes that Bron didn't have.
Speaker 1: He worked up before a game. I swear, I never
Speaker 1: forget he put them aster. What the fucking up? He's like, oh,
Speaker 1: these Lebron. It was weird test sambols between two different
Speaker 1: Lebrons before decided which Lebron they was dropping, right, so
Speaker 1: it was like which actual model. It was like a
Speaker 1: mix between the two models. It was the fifteen and sixteen.
Speaker 1: I think it was crazy, and he got him more.
Speaker 1: I don't know what the fuck is like he's test samples.
Speaker 1: So then Broun like you get the frou that's crazy.
Speaker 1: And then there's another episode bet he got the his team,
Speaker 1: his team Joyce coming out, he come in with him
Speaker 1: before him. I told him his team joy is better
Speaker 1: than his regular shows. He's like, how you seen my
Speaker 1: team Joys. I was like, I'm wearing in the game.
Speaker 1: He's like, Niggy come in the locker room like, Yo,
Speaker 1: that's crazy. Ye never seen him before. I'm on the
Speaker 1: side like how they work. He's seen him. He just
Speaker 1: hadn't warm yet. He's seen him. Oh no, but that's
Speaker 1: what he said. I know, I know he said that,
Speaker 1: but he's seen him. He just had warm yet. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I was like, what you ain't got the still another
Speaker 1: and then you know it's brother, No, we don't have.
Speaker 1: We don't have Like I'm like tt nah, And what's
Speaker 1: crazy is I know a little bit about shoes. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying when I say only you and
Speaker 1: Lawyer market, it has certain Lebron's. I'm like, that sounds
Speaker 1: running a little bit different, huh, littleimes A little bit
Speaker 1: different from this shoes. Shit, bro, he's different a kind
Speaker 1: of fashion. He's different coming when you had to do Chabana.
Speaker 1: I don't even say this ship that you don't wear shit. Look,
Speaker 1: but that's all built off of like all that stuff
Speaker 1: he was talking about. Bro, it really just came from that.
Speaker 1: That's hard, like and that's the shit about it, Like
Speaker 1: it didn't take a whole lot of nothing else, just
Speaker 1: showing interest in doing it every night, and this the
Speaker 1: dedication to It's like yoh, okay, you got style. I
Speaker 1: like it. Boom, now we meet boom, how would you
Speaker 1: like this? Boom? We gotta collab boom. It's fast, it's
Speaker 1: fashion like a passion or it's just like that's my
Speaker 1: like for sure, for sure I hoop because I hope
Speaker 1: like yeah hooping. It's like you are nooping like job blood.
Speaker 1: That's how we grow up. It's like everything we do.
Speaker 1: But then like you started learning yourself and stuff you
Speaker 1: like and like what you're really into. And I was
Speaker 1: just naturally into the fashion and really were in fashion.
Speaker 1: It was like not even just me, it was like
Speaker 1: yost some women and like it got it got so
Speaker 1: much bigger, and I started to realize how much more
Speaker 1: I like, so much more of it. It was like yo,
Speaker 1: like this is what I'm really had to it so
Speaker 1: safe to say, after you're done, you're gonna have I
Speaker 1: got a question on that obviously you got your own shop.
Speaker 1: That's going crazy. You know what I'm saying. You see
Speaker 1: hip hop artists like for real, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: getting that creative? What Brandon House? Would you like to
Speaker 1: have PJ get his collection? Have y'all touch on bro?
Speaker 1: I swears the number one question. I have no idea,
Speaker 1: no idea right now because I really don't know the direction.
Speaker 1: I wasn't going next, Like I didn't this A few
Speaker 1: collapse at this point and it's like all right, like
Speaker 1: I didn't dial with a double here and there. And
Speaker 1: it's tough because you always like like I could just
Speaker 1: throw some stuff out there, but it's like, oh, would
Speaker 1: I really do that right now or like whatever, like
Speaker 1: especially while you're hooping, it's always tough. It's like the time.
Speaker 1: But now I'm for really Louis Bro like, there's no
Speaker 1: way I would never want to do that like that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's like elite I'm not like ELITEE. We had a
Speaker 1: podcast before that. I'm not a real dressing fan. He's not.
Speaker 1: So I'm glad that you he's not. I'm glad that
Speaker 1: you're here because you help skateboard pet. I don't okay, listen,
Speaker 1: we had a debate. I'm glad damn alright, the basketball
Speaker 1: an NBA champion. We're gonna get We're gonna tell some
Speaker 1: of our funny stories about Milwaukee. Katie was cooking us
Speaker 1: and ship it to the tool. I even though my
Speaker 1: Ford truck that's still running because I was ready to
Speaker 1: put my sh up. And what game was that? Game four?
Speaker 1: We lost? This game two? Was it too? Yeah? We
Speaker 1: gotta be about fifty. Yeah, Jeff's like that's crazy. I'm
Speaker 1: going home. It's over. But shout Davis. I was. I was.
Speaker 1: I was retired that he was done. I was done.
Speaker 1: But we talk about fashion, So we get back on that.
Speaker 1: You've been you've been putting that shit on. You've been
Speaker 1: that guy, you've been doing all that shit. But how
Speaker 1: did you get started with the sneaker? So like what
Speaker 1: was your first sneaker? How did that ship even that?
Speaker 1: That's like Carolina Shough Like that's like like Michael Jordan
Speaker 1: being from Carolina, Like yeah, loving Carolina, like they came
Speaker 1: from that. So like when like back then you get
Speaker 1: jays to wear them like we literally used to cop
Speaker 1: our jays, put them on go to school, like school
Speaker 1: first person with him like it was the Jays, and
Speaker 1: then from that it just evolved like into the whole thing.
Speaker 1: Like you can collected shoes because like actually collecting since
Speaker 1: two thousand, like nine two thousand. Yeah, And what I
Speaker 1: respect about you so much is like you can tell
Speaker 1: it's not for us, like you could tell it's just
Speaker 1: like I get this shit. I'm gonna put that shit on.
Speaker 1: Like it made so many people like, oh, I can
Speaker 1: actually wear my shoes here. What the fuck did you
Speaker 1: get them for? Who's waiting for? Like you're sitting with him, like, yeah,
Speaker 1: they're gonna suck up. I have shoes from a long
Speaker 1: time ago. They're gonna crumble eventually. That's why when I
Speaker 1: seen you with Phoenix, I'm like, oh, he's really hooping
Speaker 1: in that ship. Like that shit changed that everybody. You
Speaker 1: can see the people who bid off of you, and
Speaker 1: you can tell people who are genuine about it. And
Speaker 1: I appreciate you bring it back to genuine. Shit didn't
Speaker 1: because like like really like I'm que rich. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: I said, you know this niggas cracty I said, he
Speaker 1: literally did me was like, yo, Broye, that's my dog. Crazy.
Speaker 1: I was like crazy, he opened anything. I was like, Yo,
Speaker 1: Tildy Miles, I got his white and orange nins bro.
Speaker 1: I got some boys. First of all, First that's my
Speaker 1: dog to First of all. First of all, people don't
Speaker 1: know I've been where you haven't been like that forbidden
Speaker 1: I've been. I've been. Don't put emphasis on it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're trying to glorify where you've never been. Say he's
Speaker 1: gonna do that. He's gonna do that. That energy that
Speaker 1: is right here energy. Okay, he gonna pick out Henna
Speaker 1: sing up right now out of here. I wanted the
Speaker 1: story ast fiss me yaft Thisten got being on his
Speaker 1: team teammates and seeing like how he operates with the
Speaker 1: shoe shit is fucking ridiculous from a shoe nigga, from
Speaker 1: a shoot this nigga guy. Yeah, he gonna have five
Speaker 1: hundred prayer of shoes at the facility. That's a given.
Speaker 1: Sure we're the good shit at the nigga. They got
Speaker 1: the ship. He got a place at an undisclosed location,
Speaker 1: and that motherfucker is far like all you shoot addicts,
Speaker 1: So collect all that, let it go. I'm telling y'all,
Speaker 1: never tap in. I got a good story for y'all.
Speaker 1: He got everything you can think of. You talk about
Speaker 1: Lebron Force, Kobe fives, Kobe four threes, twos, Kanye West.
Speaker 1: What's the brandy amples Yeah, that's a million dollars. That
Speaker 1: was like they never never will Like he got so
Speaker 1: much sh Bro, he made me put on my shoes.
Speaker 1: I stopped buying shoes. I buy general releases. Now I
Speaker 1: would regular stuff though, like we get to talk about
Speaker 1: like all the crazy stuff, but like every day, Bro,
Speaker 1: I would regular stuff. No, Bro, no you don't do Bro.
Speaker 1: You look at your feet all right now? No, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: it's different nothing regularly. I'm on the road. I'm on
Speaker 1: the road trip and I'll be on your team. That's
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, like to but alright, but this podcast
Speaker 1: wasn't playing. So this is just what he did. What
Speaker 1: we had nothing to do with this was coming here.
Speaker 1: What are you talking about? This is just what he does.
Speaker 1: I've been on his team, bro, so let him get
Speaker 1: his ship out. What's what's regular? Regular? Like like air
Speaker 1: Max was and all White Air Forces like I would
Speaker 1: regular snack every day. All White Air Force had a rocketfeller.
Speaker 1: That's a fact. Or they might be John Elliott. That's fact. Yes,
Speaker 1: I'm wearing bro I play. I play this nigga team
Speaker 1: so Yo he got the supreme. I wear a rocket
Speaker 1: feller once he were ones. It's not okay, that's what
Speaker 1: you're calling Boss Leather. I got a question for you.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. We all grow up at
Speaker 1: the time, but word, you know what I'm saying, outside
Speaker 1: of wearing mice like we was about an age group
Speaker 1: of where you know what I'm saying, you rocked the
Speaker 1: Iversons because Iverson was that nigga t Mac Mac was
Speaker 1: that nigga? What will it take for like dogs getting
Speaker 1: signatures today? Like you got the jobs popping out soon,
Speaker 1: what will it take for them shoes on initial release
Speaker 1: to get back to high woods? You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Like the Barclays, the Pennies, we was geeked to where
Speaker 1: though it's not the same no more and obviously you
Speaker 1: ain't trying to get fly and like no pgs, no Kyrie's.
Speaker 1: You think Nikia ever get back to the point to
Speaker 1: where they make that shoe like lit to where off
Speaker 1: court as it is in court? Is it just gonna
Speaker 1: be performance basical going for over it dude, do you
Speaker 1: think it's just Nike. Nike's the reason that it's not
Speaker 1: like that. I won't say I will put that on
Speaker 1: Nike because it's not them, but I'll say overall, like
Speaker 1: you know, those Nike stifles was the ones that we
Speaker 1: got to like. But I'm saying, like what what we're
Speaker 1: all goes tours making those iconic shoes what they were
Speaker 1: to us, like right, like when you really like since
Speaker 1: like see this is marketing, this is this is what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, like people forgetting Everybody like talk about it
Speaker 1: a lot now, especially but not so many releases dropping
Speaker 1: of like new stuff like like what made it? Like
Speaker 1: what made it like that? Like what made Let's let's
Speaker 1: just take Penny for us, talk about it a little
Speaker 1: Penny Tower Banks keep going like we can. We can
Speaker 1: keep going, bro Pennies whole exists with all that stuff.
Speaker 1: And then to see Penny on that on NBC, go
Speaker 1: up top on somebody go crazy, but like it was
Speaker 1: like the whole experience of like Penny was like different.
Speaker 1: Y'all y'all shooting experts. I'll get that to y'all, but
Speaker 1: you know, shout out to y'all, but you're a nasty nigga.
Speaker 1: If you wear a pair of Kyries and some jeens
Speaker 1: like Jeffery got on to the club, you're out of
Speaker 1: pocket nobody. That's the whole point. I don't give a
Speaker 1: fuck what commercial. I don't give a fuck who put
Speaker 1: them bitches on. Don't give a fuck. If you put
Speaker 1: on some Kyres with them Flair jeans, you're a nasty
Speaker 1: I ain't trying to fuck up y'all segment rights. I'm
Speaker 1: just listen. First of all, I'm just saying, that's all right,
Speaker 1: But that's not and that's not that's not the tonal fit.
Speaker 1: That's what about some Katie Force that was with them
Speaker 1: Flair Jays with them seven of the Shoes ever talking
Speaker 1: about it. I'm gonna stop it anything, stop doing it
Speaker 1: everywhere you get a pass because who you are, you
Speaker 1: probably had a couple of week ass outfits. But niggas
Speaker 1: said that's PJAT. He gonna get us right tomorrow. He
Speaker 1: gonna fuck with us to get back. They gonna come
Speaker 1: back and fuck with us tomorrow. Bro. You can't say that. Bro, listen, Yes,
Speaker 1: I can't. Ain't never you got on some Flair jeans too,
Speaker 1: You ain't never wore some kyries I love off the court.
Speaker 1: But that's what I think. That's what I'm trying to say.
Speaker 1: Where will they get back to a fashion like I
Speaker 1: feel like niggas ghetto ghetto niggas wore phone posets with
Speaker 1: some black jeans. The difference is though now with the
Speaker 1: performance like technology, like don't shoes these shoes the technology
Speaker 1: is different. Okay, but but DJ say hurt now like
Speaker 1: but yeah, DJ say it. Take the dick sporting was
Speaker 1: auf the shoe and bring it more back to foot
Speaker 1: locker chimps like a Lebron three. We was out of pocket,
Speaker 1: but niggas was wearing them with fits though, but that
Speaker 1: was it wasn't but it was. It was really kind
Speaker 1: of weak. We was pushing it. It was on the
Speaker 1: I'm listen man, three man, you don't like that? Three
Speaker 1: threes are my favorite Lebron ever fast personal choice. I
Speaker 1: didn't wear. I didn't wear the ones with fits. But
Speaker 1: I'm talking about the Zoom generations with some with some
Speaker 1: rocket jeans, jeans or that could have been respectable. It
Speaker 1: was a little dusty. I'm saying, like for today, if
Speaker 1: a nigga had on some threes with some jeans. You're
Speaker 1: kind of looking like you're not getting the club. They're
Speaker 1: gonna turn you away as bro. Yeah facts, but you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, nobody wearing Lebron threes. But I
Speaker 1: think but I'm trying to pin them back to what
Speaker 1: DJ was trying to say, like when would it get
Speaker 1: back to whatever? Because it's based off of performance, perform
Speaker 1: Like it's performance shoes. Shoes are like like, guys, you
Speaker 1: gotta hooping him like you got actually playing them, like
Speaker 1: busting out like you gotta like it's like a real thing,
Speaker 1: like you gotta the performance. Gotta beat there. Okay, that's
Speaker 1: why it's gotta beat there, busting out the shoes you
Speaker 1: got on now know house arrest, I got three straps.
Speaker 1: Jason vorh is with him. You ain't getting out of
Speaker 1: them shoes ready, But I honestly like I want to
Speaker 1: see like the energy back in it, right And that's
Speaker 1: I'm actually helping Book with his new shoes because Book
Speaker 1: new shoes coming okay right now, And it's but it's
Speaker 1: got a chance, it's got a chance to really like
Speaker 1: change the game. What do you think about josh I
Speaker 1: like Joshua Lot, I like Joshua a lot. It's clean,
Speaker 1: it's and I feel like it's him, like it's gets him.
Speaker 1: He's just sent me a bunch of pairs. I mess
Speaker 1: with job, but with the shoes on you, like they
Speaker 1: gotta fit you right, like I ain't with like some
Speaker 1: people can shoes things like it's like yo, they don't
Speaker 1: even don't even look like, don't make sense, don't make sense,
Speaker 1: like it's gotta make sense. And I think that's back
Speaker 1: in the day, like everybody shoes makes sense. They did
Speaker 1: it like it looked like your shoes, like Charles Barkley,
Speaker 1: Like Charles Barkley. Charles Barkley shoes like a big Like
Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying. Like his shoes looked like him,
Speaker 1: like Martin looked like him. But you're still throwing all black.
Speaker 1: You're not throwing phones on right now. Put your phones on.
Speaker 1: I ain't seen phones and don't it's about to bring
Speaker 1: them back because you're in the new galaxy. You ain't
Speaker 1: from that. Don't don't disconnect yourself too much. And that
Speaker 1: it might be a nigger phone, Jake, I know you
Speaker 1: put on them. He might ask you for five on
Speaker 1: this tank if you got on phone post. So I
Speaker 1: don't even talk about nigga. I know you fashion wake
Speaker 1: ripped the real white do me three means the nigga
Speaker 1: got the phones on with all black fit in our city.
Speaker 1: He's safe, Yeah, because he's a dangerous nigga. No nobody
Speaker 1: being dangerous, but we're not. He's chilling. He might come
Speaker 1: to the gym, you know what I mean, Dram had
Speaker 1: a basketball event or something. Nigga coming at all black
Speaker 1: in his pocket though he chilled, for sure. He chilled
Speaker 1: all black with some phones on. It don't matter what coming,
Speaker 1: I guess. I mean, get the tongue always black on
Speaker 1: the phone cities different, go with the phone cities always
Speaker 1: to me, been on what phones it is? But okay,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take you right now. I ain't the Mike
Speaker 1: Bibby all right, I'm telling you, I repectus just wearing
Speaker 1: swaying phone that about to be happy because phones is
Speaker 1: coming back right now. I can't about to push Oh,
Speaker 1: I got a blue pair of Mike Bibby's white Mike Bibby,
Speaker 1: I need him on the tell my boy you've seen
Speaker 1: on this podcast. I need that you were the mellow.
Speaker 1: No damn my contract. I will say that respectfully. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we're Nike guy. I got a question for you. Know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, You've had so many crazy ps with
Speaker 1: like the high Products and the Kobes, but like, what's
Speaker 1: your favorite Kobe model? Kobe four you're rolling. I think
Speaker 1: Kobe four is the best basketball show ever made. Oh
Speaker 1: you know what, I'm a respect it, but I think
Speaker 1: I shoot is close, even though it was the same
Speaker 1: price point. I think that PG one needs more respect.
Speaker 1: I think that PG one is one of the hardest
Speaker 1: basketball shoes. J Turner said nothing on it. I'm looking
Speaker 1: who said I with the PG one. We're just we're talking.
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not just that shoot. I don't think
Speaker 1: it's the best shoe, but we're saying this is like
Speaker 1: another level I respect, like Kobe four is nig You
Speaker 1: remember when you showed me the undefeat even we Yo
Speaker 1: do even were in the Phoenix and the Undefeated. You
Speaker 1: show me on the Hey, I'm on the bus tripping
Speaker 1: Jeff starting, I'm going crazy. He got the Undefeated, not
Speaker 1: the pack. I know, the Green, the friends of Family,
Speaker 1: the F and F I'm going hard, like Yo, you
Speaker 1: about to wear though, He's like He's like, yo, you
Speaker 1: Wally was because her kids like shit like that. I
Speaker 1: feel like that could be four is there. I'm a
Speaker 1: Kobe six nigga, but I respect the funk out Kobe
Speaker 1: six is good, but they don't got like the Kobe four.
Speaker 1: To me, I like my shoes to be tight, like
Speaker 1: like loose, and it like loosens up more when you play,
Speaker 1: Like the more you wear the Kobe six, it loosens
Speaker 1: up and it gets to a point where you can't
Speaker 1: even wear no more because they're blowing out like they're
Speaker 1: going the scales four. I swear, who ever I took
Speaker 1: them six? Did you know about that? I didn't. It's
Speaker 1: like a yeah, I said he had so many man,
Speaker 1: he had so many ps bro. That was like he
Speaker 1: like just storm, like, you know, let me take this.
Speaker 1: I ain't give him the sign of him. I'm like, shit,
Speaker 1: they gonna see on the end of that they know
Speaker 1: who they are. Pull the bright orchards to You want
Speaker 1: to think about it? You want to think about yeah,
Speaker 1: for sure. Last minute at least we get out of here.
Speaker 1: We got to ask a couple of rapper questions. What
Speaker 1: I'm saying, See how you feel about a couple of things.
Speaker 1: You've been around the league while I'm gonna go, You're
Speaker 1: top five cities to go out there in the United
Speaker 1: States of America. And no particular or no pressure, indeposit.
Speaker 1: I love good money out here. I know you're gonna
Speaker 1: ask for gas money. Walk away, Miami, New York, La. Scott,
Speaker 1: Still Houston, Scott, Still about Toronto, though I love Toronto,
Speaker 1: there's still Canada. What about Atlanta? Though I love Atlanta,
Speaker 1: But it's Houston number one? You think you think number
Speaker 1: one place in America right now? Over No, No, no,
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, like not right now, I'm saying and
Speaker 1: like over the years, over the years. No, I'm saying,
Speaker 1: we asked me what right now, what the city's are
Speaker 1: right now in no particular order, and that's why I
Speaker 1: said Houston last. But Houston is actually like one two
Speaker 1: real right now in America. That yeah, niggas, I had
Speaker 1: a good time. He took me out of Houston, had
Speaker 1: a great time. Shout out to the Porsche. No, of course, listen,
Speaker 1: Toronto is a great time. I'm just saying I have
Speaker 1: problems when I crossed the border. So yeah, yeah, I
Speaker 1: just don't It's just a little different experience for me now.
Speaker 1: And I played there and I love it. It's wonderful,
Speaker 1: But all right, I'd rather be in La New York.
Speaker 1: I can I not putting that over La New York Miami.
Speaker 1: Can I ask you something before we get to like
Speaker 1: these last questions? What was it like winning the championship?
Speaker 1: How would you define? Like? What was that for you?
Speaker 1: Like being an NBA champion, Like you weren't so hard
Speaker 1: you want to oversee play countless amount of years in
Speaker 1: the league to get to Milwaukee. Me being one of
Speaker 1: your teammates and being a part of that, sharing that
Speaker 1: moment with you. What was that like for you winning
Speaker 1: the championship? Yeah? I think too. I was coming from
Speaker 1: Houston where he's just like for Chip not get it.
Speaker 1: Everybody left me. Then they start playing with me like
Speaker 1: like I was fake, hurt, blah blah blah, like this
Speaker 1: dismissed me from the team, like trying to get traded.
Speaker 1: They playing to get the Milwaukee and it's like, all right,
Speaker 1: all the bullshit going now, fighting all the obstacles I
Speaker 1: had to fight in Milwaukee during the time of like
Speaker 1: showing them like who I am and what I do
Speaker 1: and like fighting that battle to actually finishing it and
Speaker 1: doing what you said you was gonna do, Like there
Speaker 1: was nothing. That's like the top of the top, like
Speaker 1: the pinnacle, like you know, like stand on top of
Speaker 1: that mountain was like looking down like fuck everybody that's
Speaker 1: that like you like your whole life like looking back there,
Speaker 1: like all the Toronto that shit, like you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, like you like I literally had to go
Speaker 1: through like the phases of all that shit to get
Speaker 1: to that point, like that ship was everything. And then
Speaker 1: But the best part about it is as soon as
Speaker 1: it's over the season starts, it's like, all right, you
Speaker 1: did it white, Lately it again? I tell that, bro,
Speaker 1: That's the best part about it. It's like, especially if
Speaker 1: you don't retire, if you ain't done, it's like I retire.
Speaker 1: You retired right away. You retired on top. But when
Speaker 1: you go to another team or wherever whatever you're gonna do,
Speaker 1: it's like, boom, what have you done lately? Do it again?
Speaker 1: Do it again? If you like that, then do it again. Okay.
Speaker 1: It's a great segment. Since you went from winning the
Speaker 1: championship to go on with my dog Jimmy and Miami,
Speaker 1: that created me to a whole other monster because all right,
Speaker 1: Milwaukee didn't they didn't do what they I thought they
Speaker 1: should have did. I was like, they just want to match.
Speaker 1: They're like, well, don't get offer and we'll match whoever
Speaker 1: offer you. And I was like, do you want better?
Speaker 1: I'm I'm I'm gonna go to whoever offers me. You
Speaker 1: can keep your match and then I'm gonna see you.
Speaker 1: I like that, I'm gonna see you around the block.
Speaker 1: And so that whole motivation that year was like getting
Speaker 1: to the class to play Milwaukee, like I just wanted to.
Speaker 1: It wasn't even a bout winning the chip for me,
Speaker 1: Like I was all some ship, like I just wanted
Speaker 1: to do me like that, Like, yeah, we talked about yeah, broking,
Speaker 1: we talked about that so much. Yeah, I feel like
Speaker 1: they they should have brought you back ball Drop. I
Speaker 1: think it was better for you to go to my
Speaker 1: own better because you show the different side of your game. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I actually got to hoop. You got to whop. It's
Speaker 1: the first time I got to really hoop in the world.
Speaker 1: You got to hoop. So that was okay. So having
Speaker 1: that experience and being on the hoop, like how you
Speaker 1: get I mean, I know why you went to Feeling,
Speaker 1: but how could you leave Miami all right and go
Speaker 1: back to fath like you can? When I left Toronto
Speaker 1: to go to used to Cep getting hurt like that,
Speaker 1: that was our yet, that was it was over. See
Speaker 1: if you don't get hurt. We wanted that year. I
Speaker 1: don't care nobody saying talk about that year. So see
Speaker 1: you get hurt. We still had a chances. Didn't do it.
Speaker 1: He can say what he wants, all right, three two
Speaker 1: with the home court advantage, all right, I'll pay you out. Yeah,
Speaker 1: yeah you he That was okay, alright? What what all right?
Speaker 1: To get the call for me to get all that,
Speaker 1: all that stuff to happen, and then for my man
Speaker 1: to call me like, yo, come on, I need you,
Speaker 1: come on, Yeah, I want to see my dog win.
Speaker 1: So I got a chance to get the money I wanted.
Speaker 1: I wanted to full let I wanted the full three years,
Speaker 1: full mid levels to get that and then to be
Speaker 1: able to help out my guy get one. I was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: let's do it. I got I got it before we
Speaker 1: get out of here. I fuck with all the basketball stories.
Speaker 1: I love it, but we can't let you leave this
Speaker 1: motherfucker without giving us to be a math story. Smooth
Speaker 1: and smooth was it? Smooth was in it. But mine
Speaker 1: is different thought because it wasn't in Atlantic. It was
Speaker 1: in Houston. Oh. It was Envisions in Houston. This is
Speaker 1: the floor, George bro. And that was my first time
Speaker 1: going to It was actually my first time going to Houston.
Speaker 1: Oh and we go down there. I never forget I've
Speaker 1: seen with Tumbo uh in the club. Yeah he was disrespectable,
Speaker 1: remember that, yet I was him? Yeah, I love this
Speaker 1: story already's him. I've been on the island a my bro.
Speaker 1: This is two thousand. It's my first two thousand of
Speaker 1: four yeah oh four. Oh Envisaged Houston is just open.
Speaker 1: I don't know how long it's open whatever. But it's
Speaker 1: my first time in Houston. And they had like purple lights.
Speaker 1: It's like lit up like it's like a bro like
Speaker 1: you pull up. It was like I know it's I'm
Speaker 1: in college. Bro. I'm like, oh my god, this is
Speaker 1: bro like crazy. We get up there and they had
Speaker 1: like tigers and lions and something like out front, like
Speaker 1: like the people out there handing like handlers and shit
Speaker 1: like crazy. Damn, you know, what's going on? Bro? This
Speaker 1: is this is wild, bro, like real you see, like
Speaker 1: we get in the spot, like we finally get in there,
Speaker 1: we're like playing the bar. Obviously wein't got on table
Speaker 1: in college. Yeah, we just happy to be in there.
Speaker 1: And shall these dudes with the black like the all
Speaker 1: black on the ice on the room, like damn, they
Speaker 1: didn't like like you know what they didn't like. But
Speaker 1: I'm I'm hipped the game out. Were like all right, no,
Speaker 1: it's telling me. It's like I know where they are
Speaker 1: right like, Bro, they came around the corner. I don't
Speaker 1: know how many bottles it was, bro, but they had
Speaker 1: to buy out the whole case, like it had to
Speaker 1: be like forty or fifty, like actual bottles, like Christal PJ.
Speaker 1: Rose is like, crazy, we just standing there. I'm literally
Speaker 1: right in front of me. I'm just staring there looking
Speaker 1: like corny ass like little kid like looking like just
Speaker 1: staring like, oh my god. Bro. And they start throwing
Speaker 1: money there trash bags bro, and it's the regular club.
Speaker 1: I'm like, yo. She's like at this point, it's like
Speaker 1: it's like I'm not even partying no more, like I
Speaker 1: ain't even looking at it. What's going on? You're just
Speaker 1: staring like like yo, this is wild, bro. And then
Speaker 1: were leaving it and they had all these lambos front. Bro,
Speaker 1: I swear I've never seen I mean like they really
Speaker 1: the reason like that was like got in the cars
Speaker 1: and stuff like watching them, bro, like for real, it
Speaker 1: was like yo, like I gotta like, I gotta leave
Speaker 1: a comment, look like like for real, like they made
Speaker 1: you like that, bro. Seeing them was like, oh my god, bro,
Speaker 1: like what is that like? What is that like? Like
Speaker 1: nothing like that, bro, trust me. My story in Atlanta Blue,
Speaker 1: my first night ever going out in Atlanta was that
Speaker 1: tongue and groove Blue Da Vinci. I guess he just
Speaker 1: had got out. He had a all white lambo, I
Speaker 1: mean all white Bentley the GT. The coop. He pulled
Speaker 1: up in the Bendley GT. He get out and we
Speaker 1: standing in line to go in. It was a party
Speaker 1: for me, like rookie, welcome to Atlanta, Jeff T. I
Speaker 1: was only twenty. I wasn't eve supposed to be in
Speaker 1: that motherfucker. But we're about to walk in. They like move, move,
Speaker 1: were like move you know what. They moved me to
Speaker 1: the huh. We we already went over this ship story.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, bro, I had a a raging boo. Yeah,
Speaker 1: good fleets had good fats, but my shirt was fuck
Speaker 1: y'all listen, it was fucking I thought it was kinde
Speaker 1: ya the nigga. The nigga carried through. They pushed U
Speaker 1: to the side. He walked in with like five five
Speaker 1: five to ten niggas and I was just like, who
Speaker 1: is that? But we're just waiting on Joe Johnson. Yeah,
Speaker 1: who is that nigga? And Joe pulled up was like,
Speaker 1: I was like, man, some nigga just came through, told
Speaker 1: us to move man. Everybody moved us in. This little
Speaker 1: nigga named Kevin Man shout outs a little kid work
Speaker 1: in Atlanta. He'll promoter. He was like, that's being your math.
Speaker 1: I ain't know who he was. So I got home.
Speaker 1: I started googling on this ship. You need to learn
Speaker 1: about them. They run Atlanta shit. That's when I found
Speaker 1: out about meeting him. They was locked up. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: that was oh nah when the max still gonna get
Speaker 1: out of the way for being methna different. I'm telling
Speaker 1: you really like you was moving out the way too.
Speaker 1: I got another the question too. So in the locker
Speaker 1: room y'all playing music and ship. Did you'll ever say, hey,
Speaker 1: Jeff take the ox, you ever passed bro who were
Speaker 1: in the who were in the music they love? I
Speaker 1: just wanted to always because me and him argue about music.
Speaker 1: The first of playing our locker room. It was special
Speaker 1: because it's like probably the only team I've been on
Speaker 1: where we like didn't play music on the plane and music,
Speaker 1: we didn't play a lot of music, like the people
Speaker 1: put his little pillowt sometimes while he'll play some music,
Speaker 1: but we ain't really like in the playing. It's the
Speaker 1: only team I've been on it was like that. Any
Speaker 1: other team you asked me, I can tell you exactly.
Speaker 1: But that team, it wasn't like that. It was some
Speaker 1: real like it was serious. It was some real basketball like.
Speaker 1: It wasn't like like when they play a little way,
Speaker 1: I'd like turn that shit up. Yeah they would. They
Speaker 1: would right before we ran out. Sometimes it would play
Speaker 1: like Wayne or something like. It was a couple of
Speaker 1: one time me, what's the meek shit? Ye? Yeah, I
Speaker 1: had him played me, but yeah, they just went. They
Speaker 1: just went that energy and p any given time to
Speaker 1: somebody say turn on that nas. Ye know, these niggas disrespectful,
Speaker 1: bro I'm about start getting mad, bro Ya. They try
Speaker 1: to say Nas is weak, Na, that's not what we said.
Speaker 1: We didn't say that. You're not doing that. That's not
Speaker 1: what we're saying. We have video of it so you
Speaker 1: can see it. He was disrespecting a little way and
Speaker 1: I had to tell he was out of pocket. I
Speaker 1: didn't disrespect little Way. Y'all disrespected Nas. Y'all not gonna
Speaker 1: disrespect like that is really past, Like you can't for me.
Speaker 1: It's like all production and b and stuff like it's
Speaker 1: never his raps. Yeah, facts, it's all it is. So
Speaker 1: you can be a great rapper and not pick the
Speaker 1: right production. But fuck with not tough heavy he's he said,
Speaker 1: oh yo, not and then everybody else U I love
Speaker 1: kiss my dog, kisses my dog, but not listening. I
Speaker 1: I had an agenda when I asked you that question.
Speaker 1: You think kids better than us? You wo, man, couldn't
Speaker 1: that And with that being said, hey, shout out to
Speaker 1: help me. PJ. Tucker for I appreciate my boy for sure.
Speaker 1: I had on a podcast shout out to everybody. Hey,
Speaker 1: this is my shot to the blue cups. Hey, like,
Speaker 1: look at that he was supposed to have it, but
Speaker 1: it don't matter. It's I don't if I don't even
Speaker 1: got one of those. Yeah, I stole that, and you
Speaker 1: got the you got the eight bottle I gave him
Speaker 1: on got me ye west Side taking over the city.
Speaker 1: And on that note, light Sear, subscribe all that good ship.
Speaker 1: We'll fun with y'all next week.