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Speaker 1: The Big Bets on Campus Podcast Podcast.

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Speaker 2: Pot All right, here we go.

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Speaker 3: Fifteen twenty twenty five, thirty thirty five, Horny hoty five

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Speaker 1: Kicks Block the College Football World. Stunners, Oh my goodness,

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Speaker 1: the field to night.

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Speaker 3: It's not the size of the dog in the fight.

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Speaker 3: It's the size of the fight in the dog.

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Speaker 2: What's up the gener nation? Welcome to the Big Bets

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Speaker 2: on Campus Podcast. This is the College Football Betting Kickoff episode.

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Speaker 2: I'm stucky in joining me as always from here until

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Speaker 2: the end of the season. My fellow BBOC co host

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Speaker 2: Colin Wilson. This is year nine. Some of you have

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Speaker 2: been with us since the Gen and Juice, which was

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Speaker 2: horribly produced podcast when we first started back in this

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Speaker 2: summer of twenty seventeen. We're in much better shape with

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Speaker 2: our beloved producer Matt Mitchell. But it's good to be back.

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Speaker 2: Week nine. Colin, how goes, you.

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Speaker 3: Know, miss recording three hours and then that producer that

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Speaker 3: we hired be like, oh the audio is fried. You're

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Speaker 3: just gonna have to do it over again. And here

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Speaker 3: we are, four o'clock in the morning doing it again.

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Speaker 3: That was a long time ago. I've said this every

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Speaker 3: single year. I will say it again. This is the

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Speaker 3: most joyous thing I've ever done in my life.

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Speaker 2: This is besides you having kids.

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Speaker 3: Besides the apologies to the kids there, but this is

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Speaker 3: professionally one of the best things I've ever done in

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Speaker 3: my life. It is a joy to do this every year.

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Speaker 3: I feel lucky that you and I get to chop

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Speaker 3: this up half the year and talk about my favorite

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Speaker 3: sport in the world. And I am just grateful that

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Speaker 3: we get to do this again a ninth season. I mean,

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Speaker 3: somebody told me the other day this summer, like if

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Speaker 3: a podcast gets past ten episodes, like you're in the

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Speaker 3: top five percent of even podcasts existing, Like you and

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Speaker 3: I are going on nine years doing this. I count

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Speaker 3: my blessings and I will continue to bring it weekly

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Speaker 3: to make sure I keep you in check, because this

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Speaker 3: lsu shit that you've got going on. Before I don't

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Speaker 3: know what I was listening to stuck you cut a podcast.

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Speaker 3: I heard all this, Brian Kelly Love I almost fell

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Speaker 3: out of my chair. So I'm super excited to be back.

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Speaker 2: We'll get to some LSU Clemson banter in a bit.

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Speaker 2: We'll also talk some coaching, high head coaching hires, coordinators,

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Speaker 2: offensive defenses, the ones that we like don't like. We'll

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Speaker 2: touch on some quarterback battles, and then we'll briefly just

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Speaker 2: touch on high level every single league. Maybe give a

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Speaker 2: thought or two. Maybe Hey, I like this wind Total,

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Speaker 2: I like this future, but we're not going to share

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Speaker 2: it too much because we have By the way, this

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Speaker 2: episode will be in two parts, so this will be

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Speaker 2: split up I don't know, probably forty minutes each part

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Speaker 2: or so, and then we're going to have on Monday,

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Speaker 2: we'll have a third kickoff episode, which is the Group

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Speaker 2: of Five edition, which will be with Calibrese and our

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Speaker 2: newest edition. We're so excited to have Josh Nunn aka

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Speaker 2: step on a Duck. Make sure you follow in the

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Speaker 2: app always crushes wind Totals. Just search Duck on the

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Speaker 2: Action Network app. And then soon thereafter we'll have our

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Speaker 2: annual conference by conference betting previews go through every single

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Speaker 2: team in college football. Thursday, July thirty first will be

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Speaker 2: the kickoff for that. We'll start with the sun Belt

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Speaker 2: week of August fourth, we'll cover the rest of G five.

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Speaker 2: It'll be a mix of Colin, myself, Duck Calibres, and

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Speaker 2: then the week of August eleventh will hit all the

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Speaker 2: Power four conferences. Colin and I will handle those, probably

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Speaker 2: do an sec in two parts, Big ten and two parts.

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Speaker 2: Just a lot of these conferences keep getting bigger a lot.

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Speaker 3: Me ask you a question, Yeah, how not excited are

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Speaker 3: you about us doing the Big twelve podcast? I mean literally,

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Speaker 3: like one through six, I don't even know, like do

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Speaker 2: At conference going to be it's the most exciting conference

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Speaker 2: from top to bottom. So for what it's worth, all

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Speaker 2: the episodes we be out by week zero. But yeah,

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Speaker 2: the Big twelve, I mean I went through an exercise,

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Speaker 2: so obviously have all my projections and then you spit

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Speaker 2: based on matchups, my own gut situations, and I just

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Speaker 2: go through Big Twelve tiebreakers in June on a fake.

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Speaker 2: I was trying to figure out like common opponent, Like

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Speaker 2: speaking the Big Twelve, actually I'm looking forward to this game.

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Speaker 2: I am not looking forward to the fact that this

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Speaker 2: Titlegay could decide a playoff spot. I'm not a fan

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Speaker 2: And speaking of which, Week zero, very good chance, like

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Speaker 2: some of you who are at our last time, which

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Speaker 2: to be there. There's a chance Coroner Raybound will as

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Speaker 2: well have some drinks. Bet on some week zero games

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Speaker 2: watching college football, celebrate college football being back. More info

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Speaker 2: in the next week or two of stuff on Twitter.

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Speaker 2: But if you're interested in that, if you're in the

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Speaker 2: Chicago area, just mark your calendars. Don't make any plans

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Speaker 2: if you're if you want to come check us out,

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Speaker 2: So stay tuned for more info there. All right, let's

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Speaker 2: let's dive right into it. I mean, I guess we'll

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Speaker 2: start high level. I think that the one of the

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Speaker 2: Like it's in the college football growth the machine, it's inevitable, Like,

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Speaker 3: Its yeah, it gives us better quality because if you

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Speaker 3: think about what the first round was, right, every home

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Speaker 3: maybe you get better spreads, maybe you get better competition.

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Speaker 3: I think this overall benefits everybody. But I'm a little

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Speaker 3: I don't think load management is going to be a

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Speaker 3: But I feel like we're pushing closer to load management.

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Speaker 2: to dictate that movement. But it's going to make it

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Speaker 2: But the group of five falling behind and also is

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Speaker 3: Is Miami on this schedule? Nope. I mean when that

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Speaker 3: I know you've got some players, but I like.

431
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Speaker 2: The guys they brought in the secondary. That's one of

432
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Speaker 2: the reasons I like them that people can disagree. I mean,

433
00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:39,879
Speaker 2: some of them have underperformed, but I like their ads

434
00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:42,720
Speaker 2: in the secondary. I don't think that the the guys

435
00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:46,840
Speaker 2: that they lost are big losses. Their linebackers are obviously

436
00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:49,960
Speaker 2: gonna be really good. The defensive line loses all four starters,

437
00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:53,920
Speaker 2: which is a question, but they hit the portal hard there.

438
00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:55,520
Speaker 2: I like them. I mean, it comes down to how

439
00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:57,520
Speaker 2: they're the defense is gonna come down to. I'm a

440
00:22:57,840 --> 00:23:00,960
Speaker 2: I like Baker, you don't like Baker. I like what

441
00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:05,600
Speaker 2: they did on the defense in the portal. It's gonna

442
00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:08,840
Speaker 2: be really interesting to see how they use Perkins and

443
00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:12,679
Speaker 2: how he fits, like Kenny play that hybrid role and

444
00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:15,199
Speaker 2: stay on the field, and like because you kind of

445
00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:17,480
Speaker 2: need him. They're one of the biggest promises here. They

446
00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:22,000
Speaker 2: couldn't defend mobile quarterbacks, right, And you're gonna play Clemson,

447
00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:25,960
Speaker 2: You're gonna play Florida, You're gonna play South Carolina, You're

448
00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:30,680
Speaker 2: gonna play Vandy, You're gonna play Texas A and m

449
00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:35,399
Speaker 2: Arkansas Oklahoma. So I think they need Perkins on the

450
00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:39,080
Speaker 2: field for that, and they need they play as many

451
00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:42,040
Speaker 2: good mobile quarterbacks as you can. It's gonna go down

452
00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:43,879
Speaker 2: to the offensive line. It's gonna come down to the

453
00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:46,080
Speaker 2: defensive transfers. I like the upside and a lot of

454
00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:52,240
Speaker 2: it just in the SEC. It's it's quarterbacks, Like, who

455
00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:56,399
Speaker 2: are the quarterbacks that you really trust in the SEC

456
00:23:56,440 --> 00:24:00,479
Speaker 2: to like win the league? I'm talking upside for LSU,

457
00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:05,399
Speaker 2: like it's not Missouri, I mean maybe, I mean for Buela,

458
00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:07,440
Speaker 2: we haven't seen as a starter. I maybe who knows

459
00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:10,840
Speaker 2: of it's horn Vandy, like their ceiling is limited, right,

460
00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:14,400
Speaker 2: They're not gonna win the SEC. Kentucky and kills out

461
00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:16,679
Speaker 2: of no Mississippi State and shape and no, you know

462
00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:20,680
Speaker 2: Auburn and Jackson Arnold. I like the fit. We got

463
00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:22,920
Speaker 2: to see some more from Arnold Arnold, although I'm high

464
00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:27,480
Speaker 2: on it on Arnold, Arkansas, Taylor Green and with that

465
00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:30,080
Speaker 2: roster they win in the SEC. No, come on, let's

466
00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:34,439
Speaker 2: be serious Tennessee. No, not this year, Oh miss We

467
00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:38,399
Speaker 2: haven't haven't seen anything there. Florida Lagway. Yes, he's a

468
00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:40,159
Speaker 2: guy that can elevate this team. Can they get over

469
00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:42,119
Speaker 2: that schedule? Is he healthy? There are some health questions

470
00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:45,760
Speaker 2: there with Flagway, Texas A and m read the starter

471
00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:50,320
Speaker 2: now for all everyone knows what's coming. Lost some key weapons,

472
00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:53,760
Speaker 2: and he's get more consistent as a passer. I still

473
00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:57,120
Speaker 2: have some questions there. Matier, A lot of other people

474
00:24:57,200 --> 00:24:59,480
Speaker 2: like him more than me. This is a big step

475
00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:02,440
Speaker 2: up in class. I need to see it against high

476
00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:04,960
Speaker 2: quality competition for a full season. Alabama, I haven't seen

477
00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:08,200
Speaker 2: anything from their quarterbacks. Texas don't seeing it from Arch

478
00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:11,200
Speaker 2: Georgia Stockton, Like who are you left with? From a

479
00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:14,800
Speaker 2: quarterback perspective, the most trustworthy answer is not Spire in

480
00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:17,919
Speaker 2: my opinion. And then I like Bick, I likely did

481
00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:21,200
Speaker 2: in a portal. We'll see if Brian Kelly can. I'm

482
00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:22,680
Speaker 2: still trying to figure out that. I want to bet

483
00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:26,920
Speaker 2: on LSU, like before or after Clemson.

484
00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:31,639
Speaker 3: You want to see how Bryan westco and Antonio Williams.

485
00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:33,960
Speaker 3: You want to see how they defend those two the Yeah, but.

486
00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:36,199
Speaker 2: If they pull that upset, then I'm like, that's going

487
00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:38,640
Speaker 2: to be enormous. So I'm just trying to figure out

488
00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:43,400
Speaker 2: what because I still want to see how. There's still

489
00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:45,320
Speaker 2: a lot of information to be gaining. There's injuries that

490
00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:48,880
Speaker 2: could come. The other thing is Brian Kelly never ever

491
00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:54,200
Speaker 2: wins Week one never, So we'll see. Speaking of Brian

492
00:25:54,280 --> 00:26:00,120
Speaker 2: Kelly and Dabbo, let's get into some coaching coordinator changes.

493
00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:03,359
Speaker 2: I think that this is a trend that you're going

494
00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:07,960
Speaker 2: to start to see in throughout college football. If you

495
00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:10,320
Speaker 2: look at the head coaching changes and then we'll get

496
00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:16,639
Speaker 2: to coordinators next. There was only what six at the

497
00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:20,399
Speaker 2: Power four level. You had North Carolina, they were pretty

498
00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:23,480
Speaker 2: the big splashes got homecomings. You had North Carolina with Belichick,

499
00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:28,719
Speaker 2: UCF with Frost, West Virginia getting rich Rod back in Morgantown,

500
00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:32,760
Speaker 2: and then you had Wake Stanford and Purdue, just teams

501
00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:35,399
Speaker 2: that are irrelevant, not a lot of head coaching diachers.

502
00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:40,400
Speaker 2: I think there was like thirty overall, only six at

503
00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:44,359
Speaker 2: the Power four level, so you're talking, you know, eighty

504
00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:47,240
Speaker 2: percent were from the group of five, And I think

505
00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:49,640
Speaker 2: that that make I think that's going to be a trend.

506
00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:51,919
Speaker 2: And then when you when you look at coordinators, you

507
00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:54,200
Speaker 2: had I think, what thirty new offensive coordinators and thirty

508
00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:56,879
Speaker 2: new defensive coordinators at the Power four level, and then

509
00:26:56,920 --> 00:26:59,480
Speaker 2: I think like close to thirty five each at the

510
00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:01,920
Speaker 2: group of five. I think it's gonna be a trend.

511
00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:05,560
Speaker 2: Because the money, right, like the money to buy out

512
00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:10,680
Speaker 2: some of these coaches in the past. You might anio, hey,

513
00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:13,240
Speaker 2: let's look at that the seat. Look at Norvel last

514
00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:15,520
Speaker 2: year right in the past, Florida State, I don't care,

515
00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:18,720
Speaker 2: get this, got to in ten at Florida State. Get

516
00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:20,200
Speaker 2: them out of here. We can't go to and tent.

517
00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:23,920
Speaker 2: Now it's like, well, we got to put the money

518
00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:25,840
Speaker 2: into the players, right, how are we coming up with

519
00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:27,679
Speaker 2: all this other money? Same thing in Kentucky, like the

520
00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:31,760
Speaker 2: buyout for students after the last year. So like like Pittman,

521
00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:34,919
Speaker 2: he stayed like the money that you'd come, you have

522
00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:36,600
Speaker 2: to put it into the into the program in the

523
00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:40,720
Speaker 2: players now, and so teams are a little more hesitant

524
00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:43,600
Speaker 2: to make changes there. And then the coordinator has those

525
00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:45,360
Speaker 2: that's a way that kind of you can change things

526
00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:48,040
Speaker 2: cammatically make an impact. And then you have these coaches

527
00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:49,800
Speaker 2: who are on the hot seat. Maybe get an extra

528
00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:51,719
Speaker 2: year or two with the way things work, and then

529
00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:54,600
Speaker 2: it's that's your last ditch effort. Get get a new

530
00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:58,080
Speaker 2: offensive coordinator, get a new defensive coordinatortor please save me.

531
00:27:58,440 --> 00:27:59,639
Speaker 2: So I think that's going to be a trend is

532
00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:02,560
Speaker 2: that you won't maybe not see as many head coaches

533
00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:04,840
Speaker 2: fired as quickly as they might have been in the past.

534
00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:07,000
Speaker 2: And then you're going to continue to see a ton

535
00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:08,719
Speaker 2: of coordinator movement. And then you're gonna see a lot

536
00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:13,760
Speaker 2: of coordinators continue to migrate from the group of five

537
00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:18,480
Speaker 2: level up to the power for so new head coaches,

538
00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:24,040
Speaker 2: ones that intrigue you, Ones that you don't like. What

539
00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:24,720
Speaker 2: do you got here?

540
00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:27,800
Speaker 3: I don't like dwell Logans going to app State? Yeah,

541
00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:30,520
Speaker 3: I mean the Mountaineers are just I mean, we didn't

542
00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:32,560
Speaker 3: want him at Arkansas. I think South Carolina figure that

543
00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:36,119
Speaker 3: out pretty fast. As offensive coordinator. I mean that success

544
00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:38,200
Speaker 3: rate's about to go down the shutter and it's gonna

545
00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:40,720
Speaker 3: be up to your players to create explosive plays. Southern

546
00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:45,040
Speaker 3: Miss getting Charles Huff from a broken Marshall administration was monstrous.

547
00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:46,440
Speaker 3: I'll talk about that a little bit later.

548
00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:51,040
Speaker 2: That's a crazy situation. There's like a couple of teams

549
00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:53,960
Speaker 2: that are like this, where it's just like this team

550
00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:57,360
Speaker 2: is now this team, and like Southern Miss is now

551
00:28:57,520 --> 00:29:01,720
Speaker 2: Marshall has now become Southern and like they just took

552
00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:05,040
Speaker 2: the team and the coaches and they moved it down

553
00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:09,160
Speaker 2: to Attysburg in the same conference. You don't really see

554
00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:11,400
Speaker 2: that often, so that's gonna be fun to watch.

555
00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:15,320
Speaker 3: I think Charlotte getting Tim Albn, I mean, what are

556
00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:16,880
Speaker 3: you doing with this twin total of two and a half.

557
00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:20,760
Speaker 3: You're really kind of attempting me here. Florida Atlantic has

558
00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:24,440
Speaker 3: fallen into a trend that I'm starting to love, which

559
00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:28,760
Speaker 3: is get a head coach, get your quarterback. Zach Kittlee

560
00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:30,600
Speaker 3: is going to be there with Caden bilt Camp from

561
00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:34,800
Speaker 3: Western Kentucky. I think Jacksonville State is way down. I mean,

562
00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:36,960
Speaker 3: Charles Kelly is a head coach. They did that for

563
00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:40,360
Speaker 3: a geographical recruiting fit, not freely to win day one.

564
00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:43,240
Speaker 3: I'll talk about Phil Longo at Sam Houston layer. I

565
00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:47,200
Speaker 3: absolutely do not see a single shred of defense being

566
00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:51,080
Speaker 3: played for the Bearcats. You're right about wake Forth Jake

567
00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:52,840
Speaker 3: Dicker taking that job. I think that was simply his

568
00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:54,200
Speaker 3: agent trying to get him out of there. He had

569
00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:56,640
Speaker 3: no ties of the areas, not a fit whatsoever. But

570
00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:59,240
Speaker 3: to me, stuff from a coordinator perspective, I have a

571
00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:01,560
Speaker 3: group of love and a group of hates, and I

572
00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:05,560
Speaker 3: think the team is going to react positively or negatively

573
00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:09,000
Speaker 3: based on this. Penn State getting Jim Knowles is paramount.

574
00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:12,479
Speaker 3: I don't even think we can talk. The reason Ohio

575
00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:15,280
Speaker 3: State won the national championship is not because of Ryan

576
00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:17,240
Speaker 3: Day and it's not well, I mean, it is a

577
00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:19,080
Speaker 3: twenty million dollars roster, I get it, but the players

578
00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:21,719
Speaker 3: were there all season. The reason that Ohio State won

579
00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:24,720
Speaker 3: that national championship is because Chip Kelly and Jim Knowles

580
00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:28,000
Speaker 3: both went to the drawing board. Chip Kelly said, eh,

581
00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:31,160
Speaker 3: I'm throwing on first down, and Jim Knowles said, eh,

582
00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:33,600
Speaker 3: I'm putting Caleb downs in a rover position to roam

583
00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:35,800
Speaker 3: all over the place instead of a single high safety.

584
00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:38,880
Speaker 3: Both of them paid off. The betting markets couldn't keep

585
00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:41,160
Speaker 3: up with Ohio State. When you get coordinators at that

586
00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:45,200
Speaker 3: level that can scrap the chalkboard after twelve games and

587
00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:48,000
Speaker 3: win a national title, that's where coordinator I mean, you

588
00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:50,240
Speaker 3: really have pay attention to coordinators. So I love Penn

589
00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:53,080
Speaker 3: State getting defensive coordator Jim Knowles. We've already talked about

590
00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:56,560
Speaker 3: Clemson getting Tom Allen. Ryan Grubb coming to Alabama. I

591
00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:58,720
Speaker 3: think you know him and the bor have proven what

592
00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:01,680
Speaker 3: they've done every single stop they been together. Wisconsin getting

593
00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:04,040
Speaker 3: Jeff Grimes is a huge I mean, we're trying to

594
00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:05,640
Speaker 3: get back to where roots at Wisconsin. You got the

595
00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:08,800
Speaker 3: right offensive coordinator. Texas Tech throwing all this money around

596
00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:11,280
Speaker 3: at everybody, but getting defensive cordinator shield would a guy

597
00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:12,840
Speaker 3: that I said two years ago is going to be

598
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:14,680
Speaker 3: a head coach someday and be one of the best.

599
00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:17,400
Speaker 3: He's rising up the ranks, and now Texas Tech went

600
00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:21,120
Speaker 3: and through money and got him. Ryan Walters like the

601
00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:25,760
Speaker 3: Purdue administration loved him, Illinois hated seeing him go. He

602
00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:28,080
Speaker 3: is a great defensive coordinator. That is a bonus for

603
00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:31,800
Speaker 3: Washington Oklahoma falls into that same category with MATERII. They

604
00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:34,080
Speaker 3: got offensive coordinator ben our buckle Venables is gonna be

605
00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:36,640
Speaker 3: hands off with the offense, and Utah following in the

606
00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:39,280
Speaker 3: same place with Jason Beck and Devin dan Pierre coming in.

607
00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:42,520
Speaker 3: Devin Dampier's animal. I'll talk about him later. And then

608
00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:43,880
Speaker 3: there's four of them that I hate.

609
00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:47,640
Speaker 2: Western Kentucky too. Zapie Hour Part two with Bowie and

610
00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:50,760
Speaker 2: mcgiver are coming from Abilene Christian. That's they're trying to

611
00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:52,760
Speaker 2: just recreate that Zappi Hour.

612
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:55,280
Speaker 3: I think mc iver is the best quarterback in the conference,

613
00:31:55,360 --> 00:32:00,719
Speaker 3: like day one. So there's four coordinators I hate, and

614
00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:02,560
Speaker 3: I think you can see me negative on these teams.

615
00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:05,080
Speaker 2: All right, Well, let me go positive first, then I'll

616
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:08,240
Speaker 2: let you go negative. So head coaches, I'll start with

617
00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:11,880
Speaker 2: I don't think it's I'm not a fan of the

618
00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:13,840
Speaker 2: mull and Higher at UNLV. We'll see if you can

619
00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:19,040
Speaker 2: adjust to this new landscape. But I also in regards

620
00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:25,040
Speaker 2: to UNLV, I don't like their coordinators either. So Fresno State,

621
00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:30,040
Speaker 2: I like the higher with ents. They also got a

622
00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:33,600
Speaker 2: good DC from Northern Illinois, but I think that should

623
00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:36,840
Speaker 2: be the identity of Fresno State, Like just it's just

624
00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:39,040
Speaker 2: too Fresno State is that's what they have to lead into.

625
00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:42,600
Speaker 2: I think was a good fit there Utah State and

626
00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:44,680
Speaker 2: Mendon Hall, he's a good coach, Like just that's that's

627
00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:47,560
Speaker 2: a good get there. I agree with you in Longo. Yeah,

628
00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:49,160
Speaker 2: the defense is a whole nother story. I don't think

629
00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:51,760
Speaker 2: that his system could fit there. And then with long

630
00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:56,080
Speaker 2: Ago leaving Wisconsin, I agree with you. Grimes coming from Kansas,

631
00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:58,960
Speaker 2: I think is a much better fit at Wisconsin, going

632
00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:02,440
Speaker 2: back to what they want to do more running the ball.

633
00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:05,680
Speaker 2: That's their identity. Remember it's Wisconsin. Look where you play

634
00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:07,920
Speaker 2: and look at the weather is sometimes like that long

635
00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:10,040
Speaker 2: Ago thing was never going to work. Just recruit your

636
00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:12,440
Speaker 2: offensive line, run the ball, get a good court, a

637
00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:14,600
Speaker 2: good creative coordinator. I think that works there. I also

638
00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:17,040
Speaker 2: like think that Grimes leaving Kansas is going to work

639
00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:20,200
Speaker 2: out for Kansas. They're going to get back they internal higher,

640
00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:21,280
Speaker 2: but they're going to get back to a lot of

641
00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:23,640
Speaker 2: the things that codl Nikki did, which I think is

642
00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:27,000
Speaker 2: a better fit for Daniels. We'll see if Daniels is healthy.

643
00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:28,680
Speaker 2: So I think that works for both teams. Just like

644
00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:34,000
Speaker 2: with Alan leaving and then Knowles uh coming to Penn State.

645
00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:35,920
Speaker 2: I think that works for both Clemson and Penn State,

646
00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:39,320
Speaker 2: and I agree it was huge Knowles last year. He

647
00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:43,160
Speaker 2: also simplified things more than he normally did. And then yeah,

648
00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:44,880
Speaker 2: some of the things that he did down the stretch

649
00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:48,479
Speaker 2: sometimes it's not over complicating things. And I will give

650
00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:53,239
Speaker 2: Ryan Day credit in that he did become less of

651
00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:55,479
Speaker 2: like this is what the head coach is supposed to be.

652
00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:57,280
Speaker 2: You get good coordinators, and on a team where you

653
00:33:57,280 --> 00:34:00,800
Speaker 2: have good coordinators, goo players, let them do their thing.

654
00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:03,920
Speaker 2: And before I think he would get two hands on,

655
00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:05,880
Speaker 2: I want to be too involved and have too much

656
00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:08,120
Speaker 2: to say, and he kind of became more of that

657
00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:11,120
Speaker 2: CEO and hands off and trusting, which is an important

658
00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:13,160
Speaker 2: trade of a head coach. So I think he does

659
00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:15,799
Speaker 2: deserve credit. But in that aspect, hold on, he did.

660
00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:18,919
Speaker 2: He did have his mentor there. He did have chip

661
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:21,839
Speaker 2: Kelly there, his new Hampshire coach. So what is that

662
00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:24,440
Speaker 2: like now that chip Kelly's not there? Are we yes, no,

663
00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:26,120
Speaker 2: that it could be you could question it again, but

664
00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:30,399
Speaker 2: I'm saying he deserves credit for it last year. We'll

665
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:35,200
Speaker 2: get to the how to stay negative. Yeah, uh Rice,

666
00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:39,760
Speaker 2: I like the Rice higher because you like who Rice?

667
00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:42,480
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I shouldn't talk positivebout Rice. I just think

668
00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:46,000
Speaker 2: that these teams who are falling behind, that you got

669
00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:48,840
Speaker 2: to get gimmicky. Yeah, and like you got to be

670
00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:50,759
Speaker 2: hard to prepare for, have a unique sk He's like

671
00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:55,399
Speaker 2: Rice is going to be a quasi triple option team.

672
00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:58,200
Speaker 2: There's that that that conference is all about. Uh, maybe

673
00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:00,000
Speaker 2: you don't have as much of an edge because this conference,

674
00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:02,799
Speaker 2: this is growing now in option teams you have to

675
00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:05,840
Speaker 2: prepare for. But I just I like that that trend.

676
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:08,440
Speaker 2: That's what I would do if I'm on this. This

677
00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:11,080
Speaker 2: a group G five program. It's not going to compete

678
00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:14,120
Speaker 2: on talent, don't have a ton of resources, a stadium

679
00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:17,600
Speaker 2: where thirty people go to get unique.

680
00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:21,080
Speaker 3: Said about Kansas three years ago before they got Lancelipol, Right,

681
00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:25,120
Speaker 3: we said, go get Monkin and run the triple option

682
00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:27,440
Speaker 3: in Big twelve. It'll screw everybody up. Now you're seeing

683
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:28,680
Speaker 3: this happen at the G five level.

684
00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:32,520
Speaker 2: Yep, uh yeah, head coaches.

685
00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:33,879
Speaker 3: Yeah.

686
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:35,520
Speaker 2: And I just don't think the Longo thing. And I

687
00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:39,120
Speaker 2: agree with you on app State and Loggins. I can't

688
00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:40,920
Speaker 2: see the Longo thing working on the offensive side at

689
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:42,560
Speaker 2: Sam Houston State. I just don't think that they have,

690
00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:48,480
Speaker 2: especially this year, the team to do that. Coordinator positive

691
00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:52,359
Speaker 2: and then I'll let you go coordinator negative. Alabama agree

692
00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:59,440
Speaker 2: with you on grub Wisconsin mentioned Utah agree with I

693
00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:06,480
Speaker 2: love both Texas Tech coordinator hires ye Leftwich and would

694
00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:11,640
Speaker 2: I like both Houston coordinator hires with Nagel reuniting with

695
00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:14,720
Speaker 2: his head coach at Armstrong. I think West Virginia.

696
00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:17,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, lane to lane west of Houston now.

697
00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:20,000
Speaker 2: Yep, West Virginia getting Ali, I think is a good

698
00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:22,480
Speaker 2: he's I think he knows what he's doing. I think

699
00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:24,480
Speaker 2: that was a good get they paid for him. Uh

700
00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:32,160
Speaker 2: mentioned Kansas Coastal Carolina. Their defensive coordinator Jeremi Johnson brings

701
00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:34,560
Speaker 2: a ton of his staff over from LA Tech. LA

702
00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:36,640
Speaker 2: Tech had one of the most underrated defenses in the

703
00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:39,839
Speaker 2: country last year. I think that was a really good hire.

704
00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:41,759
Speaker 2: We'll see what he just from a schematic perspective, they

705
00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:43,279
Speaker 2: were doing some really interesting things in the middle of

706
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:46,799
Speaker 2: the field, So I like that higher. I think it's

707
00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:49,840
Speaker 2: gonna hurt LA Tech, especially like just a lot of

708
00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:54,080
Speaker 2: the positional coaches that they lost Penn State was just

709
00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:56,439
Speaker 2: just huge Miami defensive coordinator. I think Heatherman was a good higher.

710
00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:57,799
Speaker 2: I think he's a good fit for what they want

711
00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:03,359
Speaker 2: to do. And then another one I didn't mention yet. Well,

712
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:08,200
Speaker 2: two positive last ones Bowling Green Eddie George, ties of

713
00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:11,160
Speaker 2: the area. I think that's what Bowling Green wants to be. Like,

714
00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:13,040
Speaker 2: you want to know what Eddie George's teams were like

715
00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:16,759
Speaker 2: at the FCS, It's picture Eddie George running the ball

716
00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:19,000
Speaker 2: and how he ran it, Like that's who they are, like,

717
00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:22,040
Speaker 2: just violent on both sides of the ball. I think

718
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:26,040
Speaker 2: that's like a good identity for what BIGI should try

719
00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:29,160
Speaker 2: to become in the future. And then Va Tech, I

720
00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:33,160
Speaker 2: like both of their hires. Sneaky, really good defensive coordinator

721
00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:35,000
Speaker 2: higher a lot of them known, but where he came

722
00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:38,600
Speaker 2: from the NFL teams that he came from the background there,

723
00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:41,080
Speaker 2: I think that he is going to do some really

724
00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:45,040
Speaker 2: good things schematically. And then they're oh, Sea Montgomery. I

725
00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:47,840
Speaker 2: think working with drones I think could be helpful. So

726
00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:50,560
Speaker 2: those are the highers that I do like. Feel free

727
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:52,319
Speaker 2: to share any thoughts there, but more curious to get

728
00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:54,160
Speaker 2: your thoughts on you don't like.

729
00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:57,040
Speaker 3: I think Eddie George's contacts within Ohio State is going

730
00:37:57,080 --> 00:37:58,880
Speaker 3: to be big for the Bowling Green roster. They're going

731
00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:01,239
Speaker 3: to be able to bounce things off all the time.

732
00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:02,759
Speaker 3: I think it really is that. I don't know if

733
00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:04,319
Speaker 3: that pays off day one, but I think it pays

734
00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:05,040
Speaker 3: off for the program.

735
00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:08,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, they'll be patient with them as they think I

736
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:08,960
Speaker 2: think they should be.

737
00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:12,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, there are coordinators. I don't like. There's four of them.

738
00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:17,080
Speaker 3: The first one is in U mass Is. If you

739
00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:21,560
Speaker 3: mass wasn't already unwatchable. Offensive coordinator Mike Bhakian is slow

740
00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:24,920
Speaker 3: and dreadful and inefficient and loves to pass behind the

741
00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:28,319
Speaker 3: line of scrimagins. I just I don't know. I mean,

742
00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:30,520
Speaker 3: I thought U mass Is switched into conference maybe there

743
00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:32,120
Speaker 3: could be something to bet there, but I can't do

744
00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:34,960
Speaker 3: with the hockey and the defensive coordinator. I don't know

745
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:37,320
Speaker 3: what the hell of Central Florida is doing being.

746
00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:42,640
Speaker 2: The guy who was high who was fired when at

747
00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:46,120
Speaker 2: Northwestern when you were all excited about vertical? Was that

748
00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:49,560
Speaker 2: the vertical and who was that? Where did that come from?

749
00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:53,000
Speaker 2: Remember your quote? No, that was San Diego State Vertical Electric.

750
00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:56,680
Speaker 3: And vertical Jeff Hecklint. Yeah, he got me fired up,

751
00:38:56,680 --> 00:38:58,520
Speaker 3: but he's about an interview that got me fired up.

752
00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:00,360
Speaker 3: I thought San Diego State was going to run highest

753
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:06,719
Speaker 3: tempo in the nation. Listen, UCF. I don't know. I

754
00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:09,400
Speaker 3: thought the Alex Grench experiment was done, all right? I

755
00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:10,360
Speaker 3: mean when when.

756
00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:12,719
Speaker 2: What does this guy happ on? He has, this guy

757
00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:16,080
Speaker 2: has the Scott what does he like?

758
00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:18,400
Speaker 3: Isn't Eric Shenander out there somewhere? What do we do

759
00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:20,600
Speaker 3: in Scott Frost? What do we do? We're going out

760
00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:23,919
Speaker 3: to get Alex Grinch. I mean, in like one good year,

761
00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:26,640
Speaker 3: Washington State got buried in Ohio State made out the

762
00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:30,279
Speaker 3: USC just took a bag of money and didn't show

763
00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:32,160
Speaker 3: up to work ever. And now he's gonna be the

764
00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:35,960
Speaker 3: defensive coordinator at UCF. Not good. And then Florida have

765
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:38,319
Speaker 3: had this term for their defensive coordinator, Todd Grantham. They

766
00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:41,000
Speaker 3: called him third and Grantham. Now Oklahoma State's gonna have

767
00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:44,239
Speaker 3: him as a defensive coordinator. Like we've gone from coordinator

768
00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:47,120
Speaker 3: from Jim Knowles as a coordinator at Oklahoma State down

769
00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:50,040
Speaker 3: to like a D three Gannon University DC and now

770
00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:52,960
Speaker 3: we've got Todd Grantham, who could I mean just absolute

771
00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:57,120
Speaker 3: dumps for fire, like passing downs every down, even in

772
00:39:57,200 --> 00:39:59,560
Speaker 3: first down, just start off first and twenty Like, why

773
00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:01,719
Speaker 3: is Todd Rantham a defensive coordinator still and he's at

774
00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:04,040
Speaker 3: Oklahoma State. That is not that is not going to

775
00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:05,719
Speaker 3: get us over any kind of win total. And then

776
00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:09,040
Speaker 3: finally I'll let you rant on this listen. Brian Hartline

777
00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:11,840
Speaker 3: has been a main state in the Ohio State coaching staff,

778
00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:13,879
Speaker 3: so you know he's going to try to be Chip

779
00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:15,839
Speaker 3: Kelly ish. But the problem is is you just can't

780
00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:18,279
Speaker 3: be the artist that Chip Kelly is on the x's

781
00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:20,880
Speaker 3: and o's, and I think that's a downgrade. No disrespect

782
00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:22,520
Speaker 3: to Brian Hartline, but you're not Chip Kelly. And then

783
00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:25,720
Speaker 3: the other side of the wall of Matt Patricia calling

784
00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:29,200
Speaker 3: the defense, I will hand that off to you, sir.

785
00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:31,080
Speaker 3: That's a step man.

786
00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:38,480
Speaker 2: My prediction on the Ohio State season is it ends

787
00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:41,320
Speaker 2: they'll probably make the collge Wole Cile. It's going to

788
00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:45,320
Speaker 2: come down of the quarterback. He's obviously really good saying

789
00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:47,759
Speaker 2: but we'll see how good by the end of the year.

790
00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:55,560
Speaker 2: But my prediction is their season ends with Patricia just

791
00:40:55,800 --> 00:41:01,080
Speaker 2: trying to do too much and they give up a touchdown.

792
00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:04,040
Speaker 2: We can clip this if this actually happens. They give

793
00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:07,160
Speaker 2: up a touchdown late to lose a game. Patricia takes

794
00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:09,360
Speaker 2: his pencil out of his ear, slams it on the ground,

795
00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:14,800
Speaker 2: and uh. They flash to Ryan Day and he's screaming

796
00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:18,960
Speaker 2: about the state of Ohio. Uh, turning red. And that's

797
00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:21,120
Speaker 2: how their season ends this year and they do not repeat.

798
00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:24,160
Speaker 2: But yeah, that's a big downgrade. We'll see Patricia if

799
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:27,040
Speaker 2: he's a new man. I did not like that higher

800
00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:29,279
Speaker 2: he Isn't he looks different? You know he lost a

801
00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:32,760
Speaker 2: ton of weight. Yeah, he look he looks completely different

802
00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:36,319
Speaker 2: if you haven't seen any interviews with him. But that's

803
00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:38,160
Speaker 2: my prediction on an out of state season. Not a fan.

804
00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:43,120
Speaker 2: I had that listed. I had Grench listed. What is

805
00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:45,319
Speaker 2: Northern Illinois doing? By the way, I don't know. They

806
00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:48,440
Speaker 2: lost a good defensive coordinator. They bring in this offensive

807
00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:51,360
Speaker 2: coordinator Sanders from I think he was a Charleston and

808
00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:54,279
Speaker 2: they want to like spread it out and they don't

809
00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:59,399
Speaker 2: have the Mountain West right, but like, I still don't

810
00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:01,520
Speaker 2: think that that's who they can they can they get

811
00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:04,000
Speaker 2: the I don't know. Yeah, I think that that that's

812
00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:07,440
Speaker 2: what they're They're just getting ready for the move. I

813
00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:09,359
Speaker 2: don't I think it's going to be a disaster this year,

814
00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:13,520
Speaker 2: but like go in Illinois, that their identity should be

815
00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:18,480
Speaker 2: let's win twenty three twenty. We're just gonna run it,

816
00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:22,000
Speaker 2: set up some pla action and then rely on our defense.

817
00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:26,680
Speaker 2: And their defense could take a step back this year, Tooky.

818
00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:26,799
Speaker 3: Just get this out of the way and you can

819
00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:30,560
Speaker 3: out of I'm still fucking mad about that Idaho, about

820
00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:34,319
Speaker 3: that Potato Bowl under, im about that Potato Bowl under.

821
00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:37,520
Speaker 3: I'm still able to process that loss. Anyways, we can

822
00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:38,240
Speaker 3: move on top.

823
00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:44,399
Speaker 2: All coaches, just for my ham go for two, it's

824
00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:48,160
Speaker 2: a it's the Potato Bowl, Or how about the what

825
00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:53,319
Speaker 2: was the the Motor City Bowl with Nardoozi kicking a

826
00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:57,440
Speaker 2: field goal from the one against the MAC team in

827
00:42:57,520 --> 00:43:01,040
Speaker 2: double overtime to keep it going, Like what are you doing?

828
00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:04,120
Speaker 2: That was the most deserved loss I've ever seen. But

829
00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:07,160
Speaker 2: it's over. Go for two. It happened, and luckily I

830
00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:08,880
Speaker 2: was on the right side of this one. It happened

831
00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:13,279
Speaker 2: in the Hawaii Bowl on Christmas Eve. Yeah, I have

832
00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:16,120
Speaker 2: a shirt. I bought a shirt I gave from that

833
00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:17,920
Speaker 2: bowl because I ended up on the right side of it.

834
00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:21,279
Speaker 2: They're they're all the end the game, go for two.

835
00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:24,560
Speaker 2: Unbelievable that these teams won't do that. And then you

836
00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:26,680
Speaker 2: just did the first overtime go the other team kicks that,

837
00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:28,000
Speaker 2: you go for two, you go off for the win.

838
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:31,120
Speaker 2: It's the Potato Bowl, Like, come on, what?

839
00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:32,920
Speaker 3: What what made me think of this? Is now? Thomas,

840
00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:35,919
Speaker 3: We're gonna line up in overtime with Northern Illinois offense

841
00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:37,960
Speaker 3: and they're gonna be in five wides right on the

842
00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:38,800
Speaker 3: two yard line.

843
00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:42,799
Speaker 2: Unbelievable. And then they kept missed that game that they

844
00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:44,880
Speaker 2: kept missing like thirty yard field goals like if one

845
00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:49,080
Speaker 2: of them went the game. That was unbelievable. That game

846
00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:53,839
Speaker 2: that that went over. So what else? Let me see

847
00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:58,680
Speaker 2: if there's any negatives. Uh. I didn't like the kennisall highers,

848
00:43:58,680 --> 00:43:59,960
Speaker 2: but I mean, what are you gonna do in Kennison?

849
00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:04,400
Speaker 2: Georgia state coordinators didn't like those shout.

850
00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:05,840
Speaker 3: Out to f i U. I mean they're going the

851
00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:08,839
Speaker 3: HBCU route. I think I think that's I think that's

852
00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:09,960
Speaker 3: gonna work for them down there.

853
00:44:10,600 --> 00:44:11,799
Speaker 2: They can't I don't at all.

854
00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:14,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, they had some money to keep Keon Jenkins around

855
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:18,560
Speaker 3: the quarterbacks. So I don't dislike the what they're doing

856
00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:19,360
Speaker 3: down there at FIU.

857
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Speaker 2: I had I have some inclination to throw some shekels

858
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Speaker 2: on fi to.

859
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Speaker 3: Win the conference.

860
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Speaker 2: Well get there, Uh, no time. The other thing I

861
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:31,960
Speaker 2: would have mentioned Kent State, what a flaming disaster. Their

862
00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:37,279
Speaker 2: defensive coordinator left like two weeks ago. He went to

863
00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:39,800
Speaker 2: an f c FC. We gave an FCS assistant in

864
00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:46,000
Speaker 2: North Dakota State like that. Kent State is in rough shape.

865
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Speaker 3: But you know, you know, you know what was going

866
00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:51,759
Speaker 3: on with Kenny Burns, right, Yes.

867
00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:54,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, we got to talk about it.

868
00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:57,480
Speaker 3: No, I don't. I don't think we are. But it's

869
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Speaker 3: good for him to get out of dodge.

870
00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:03,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean Kent State, what's their win totals at

871
00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:04,400
Speaker 2: one and a half?

872
00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:09,600
Speaker 3: Checked my projection. I cannot believe we're down this far

873
00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:13,040
Speaker 3: in the first I don't know how I have him

874
00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:15,359
Speaker 3: two point four. Okay, I'm not.

875
00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:20,440
Speaker 2: They should have a win. The wind totals one and

876
00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:23,000
Speaker 2: a half. It'so's to the over. But yeah, I mean

877
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:26,880
Speaker 2: it's basically like two because they played Mary Mack. I

878
00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:30,360
Speaker 2: haven't done my work on Marymack. I lost some line transfers.

879
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:32,400
Speaker 2: That's all I know. They played Marymack at home in

880
00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:35,360
Speaker 2: Week one, Like you assume that's a win, But I

881
00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:37,200
Speaker 2: don't know. Didn't they lose to like Saint Francis two

882
00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:40,600
Speaker 2: years ago or last year St Frances last year?

883
00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:40,799
Speaker 3: Right?

884
00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:43,400
Speaker 2: Was that last year? They went Owen twelve last year?

885
00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:46,040
Speaker 2: So they lost to their FCS school. I don't know.

886
00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:47,560
Speaker 2: I don't know if good or bad Marry mcket is,

887
00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:48,799
Speaker 2: I don't I don't have a projection for that game,

888
00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:51,279
Speaker 2: so I don't know. But if you assume that's a win,

889
00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:53,759
Speaker 2: I mean Central Michigan home late in the year, like

890
00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:56,719
Speaker 2: maybe that's just a dumpster fire Ball States on the road.

891
00:45:56,800 --> 00:45:59,480
Speaker 2: Ball State might be really bad. And then they have

892
00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:02,480
Speaker 2: the wagon game against Akron. The interesting thing about Akron

893
00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:05,800
Speaker 2: is they're not eligible for the postseason. I don't know

894
00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:08,719
Speaker 2: what's gonna go on with them. Their academic scores are

895
00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:10,879
Speaker 2: so low that they can't they can't win the MAC.

896
00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:14,359
Speaker 2: So if you go and look at mac odds, there's

897
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:16,680
Speaker 2: no Acron. They can't go to a bowl. They can't

898
00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:18,719
Speaker 2: go to the not that they were going to, but

899
00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:21,320
Speaker 2: they're not eligible for postseason play and they have reduced

900
00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:24,640
Speaker 2: practice time through throughout the season. The first team since Idaho,

901
00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:28,719
Speaker 2: like twelve years ago that is banned from postseason play

902
00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:31,960
Speaker 2: due to low academic scores. They kind of suspended it

903
00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:34,120
Speaker 2: for a while during COVID and now they're back with

904
00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:39,279
Speaker 2: the averages. If Akron doesn't improve their academic scores, and

905
00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:41,200
Speaker 2: I'm sure they're maybe just fudge them, I don't know,

906
00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:44,200
Speaker 2: but if they don't improve their academic scores and their

907
00:46:44,239 --> 00:46:48,600
Speaker 2: score next year, they lose status is D one. Lose

908
00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:52,600
Speaker 2: status is D one next year. But yeah, I mean,

909
00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:54,319
Speaker 2: I guess they could win. They could beat Mary Mack

910
00:46:54,520 --> 00:46:58,000
Speaker 2: and then if Akron and UMass so I guess there's

911
00:46:58,040 --> 00:47:02,160
Speaker 2: a path to three wins fire. But all right, that's enough.

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