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<v Speaker 1>Here's my advice young people learned to code. It's one

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<v Speaker 1>more thing. I'm strong and geddy, one more thing. So

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<v Speaker 1>I'm speaking at career day at my son's high school

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<v Speaker 1>on Friday. I want to discuss that a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>with the rest of the cast here is also in

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<v Speaker 1>the radio industry.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, I'm trying to remember I've done a couple

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<v Speaker 2>of those, but it's been ages.

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<v Speaker 1>Before we get to that. Wanted to hear this story.

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<v Speaker 1>This is about the dude and the fake and his death, Katie.

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<v Speaker 1>Should I already gave it away? Did I give it away?

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<v Speaker 1>Should I not have given it away? Kind of gave it? Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>let's listen to it.

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<v Speaker 3>Forty five year old Ryan borgart Vani is from Green

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<v Speaker 3>Lake in Wisconsin. In August, police found his kayak his car,

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<v Speaker 3>along with his wallet, keys, and license. But for fifty

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<v Speaker 3>four days, search teams using sonar and divers scoured this

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<v Speaker 3>lake in Vain. Police say it all unraveled when they

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<v Speaker 3>learned Ryan's passport was used in Canada. The day after

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<v Speaker 3>he disappeared. A search of his computer revealed the married

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<v Speaker 3>father was talking online to a woman from Uzbekistan. He

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<v Speaker 3>had recently taken out a three hundred and seventy five

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<v Speaker 3>thousand dollars life insurance policy and moved money overseas. The

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<v Speaker 3>FBI is also involved in this investigation. At this point,

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<v Speaker 3>they think Ryan Borgart is somewhere in Eastern Europe.

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<v Speaker 1>So you're married with kids, you meet a chick online

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<v Speaker 1>from Uzbekistan wherever that is.

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<v Speaker 2>Once you've had is Bekistani, you'll never go back to

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<v Speaker 2>your wife or your granny. Like the old saying goes, geez,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't, well, look what I had to work with.

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<v Speaker 1>Go to the car. What are you gonna rise with Uzbekistan?

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<v Speaker 1>Even for you to say so? The insurance policy was

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<v Speaker 1>that for him to have money or to leave money

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<v Speaker 1>for his family as he headed out the door, I

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<v Speaker 1>would think for his family, right, I think it to me,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm guessing he took a bunch of money. But then

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<v Speaker 1>you know I left him even more behind with the

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<v Speaker 1>I died.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, well, right, yeah, just because he decided I'm

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<v Speaker 2>out of here, I'm gonna go houck up with a hot,

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<v Speaker 2>hot Uzbeka stanny. Woman doesn't make dan, that's right. But

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<v Speaker 2>he has kids, Oh my lord, nod, he's got three

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<v Speaker 2>beautiful camps.

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<v Speaker 1>Well he's crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, there's that.

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<v Speaker 1>And his wife looked like.

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<v Speaker 2>Stanny Tail.

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<v Speaker 1>His wife looks nice, nicely, really sweet looking family. What

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<v Speaker 1>a dick. Yeah, crap, And so I'm sure the money's gone.

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<v Speaker 1>She's not going to get the insurance payout because he's

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<v Speaker 1>not dead. That sucks hard. Oh that's a bad one.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm kayaking around in Green Lake, Wisconsin wherever that is,

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<v Speaker 2>with my cute wife and my three beautiful children. You

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<v Speaker 2>won the lottery, of course I'm not happy. I'm not.

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<v Speaker 2>He's clearly a freaking nut job.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's a sad story. All for some Beckis stan

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<v Speaker 1>All for some sweet Usbecca stany tale you Becky Becky

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<v Speaker 1>Becky Bekers stand Stan Well?

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<v Speaker 4>And how's he even know? I mean, we heard that

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<v Speaker 4>whole that scam where guys were getting scammed out of

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<v Speaker 4>a bunch of money overseas.

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<v Speaker 1>Decent point, we're assuming this is even slightly real. It's

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<v Speaker 1>quite possibly got over there and it's a dude, and

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<v Speaker 1>he's one of many dudes showing up to see this

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<v Speaker 1>dude who they all think is a woman. And yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>all he did was lose his money.

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<v Speaker 2>Getting baffed over the head and have his money taken. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>he deserves a packets.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and now he's actually missing, right because he's over there.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, now you're actually missing. So my son's high school

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of like a lot of high schools do,

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<v Speaker 1>having a career day, and so they send out an

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<v Speaker 1>email to all the parents, would you like to come

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<v Speaker 1>speak a career day about what you do for a living?

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<v Speaker 1>To give our high school students, who are now just

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of years away from the real world, some

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<v Speaker 1>ideas of things they could go out there and do

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<v Speaker 1>to make a living. And well, Jo can speak to

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<v Speaker 1>this because he's done it before. I've not done it before.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's the it's the odd thing of on one hand,

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<v Speaker 1>I got a cool job that sounds fun and cool

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<v Speaker 1>because it is. But on the other hand, it's not

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<v Speaker 1>actually a career that's available to really hardly anybody, especially now.

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<v Speaker 1>It never really was. It's show business and you know

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<v Speaker 1>it exists, and I don't mind telling you about it,

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<v Speaker 1>but I kind of hate the idea of putting it

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<v Speaker 1>in your head that this is an option for you,

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<v Speaker 1>because it barely is anyway.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, yeah, true, but I assume you're thinking of yourself

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<v Speaker 2>as a podcaster. Well, yeah, so a broadcast.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's one thing my son I didn't actually get

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<v Speaker 1>into it. He's not going to be able to go

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<v Speaker 1>because it filled up very quickly, and they he's a freshman,

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<v Speaker 1>and they let the seniors pick first. It makes sense,

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<v Speaker 1>is they're a year out from the real world and

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<v Speaker 1>then juniors, you know, makes sense. And it filled up immediately.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think it's because I put radio announcer slash

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<v Speaker 1>podcaster and they probably don't even know what radio announcer is,

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<v Speaker 1>but the word podcaster got their attention. And I will

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<v Speaker 1>speak to a little of that, but I don't, I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't because that it's first of all, the radio

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<v Speaker 1>industry is barely exists. To those of us still in

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<v Speaker 1>it exists great, it absolutely exists. Fantastic, and it's good

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<v Speaker 1>for the advertisers and it's good for everybody. But but

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<v Speaker 1>technological changes and changes in the laws, the Telecommunications Act

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<v Speaker 1>of nineteen ninety six when Clinton's president changed the radio

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<v Speaker 1>landscape forever and then everything from them technological wise changed

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<v Speaker 1>it and everything like that. So they're just don't as

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<v Speaker 1>many jobs as there used to be, correct, But those

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<v Speaker 1>of us still in it, it's fantastic, but it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of hard, hard to go into a classroom and

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<v Speaker 1>say here's something you could do for a living.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure, yeah, yeah, you got to bring Hanson along to

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<v Speaker 2>answer like all of their technical questions.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, well, I'm not going to answer any technical questions

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<v Speaker 1>because I don't think that matters at all. But anybody

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<v Speaker 1>who owns a computer or a phone can be a podcaster.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, the barrier entry is almost zero for being

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<v Speaker 1>a podcaster, but then actually turning it into money is

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<v Speaker 1>a whole different thing. And so I don't know, what

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<v Speaker 1>what what have you told people in the past about

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<v Speaker 1>your You're lucky to have it, you know, one in

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<v Speaker 1>a million shot career.

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<v Speaker 2>My memories are are very vague.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, back when you were going into high schools,

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<v Speaker 1>it was you know, the Hindenberg has landed that sort

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<v Speaker 1>of radio.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah exactly. Yeah, that's why my memories are so vague. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>it was a long time ago.

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<v Speaker 1>I have a.

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<v Speaker 2>Feeling that I probably accented the idea that it takes

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<v Speaker 2>a very long time, and you have to work hard,

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<v Speaker 2>and you have to be willing to do about anything.

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<v Speaker 2>If you go in picky, you're doomed. Pursue any opportunity

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<v Speaker 2>that comes along as aggressively as you can.

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<v Speaker 1>You're talking about the radio industruy of the podcasting industry.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh podcast not podcast thing didn't exist when I was.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh you're you're talking about what you used to say?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, oh right now and yeah and.

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<v Speaker 1>I so okay, this is my real question. In Katy,

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<v Speaker 1>you can answer this two year. You can get to

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<v Speaker 1>the real question. The real question is how far do

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<v Speaker 1>I want to go down the road of of course

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<v Speaker 1>you'd like to be rich, and most of you would

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<v Speaker 1>like to be famous, but very very very few two

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<v Speaker 1>people can be rich and famous and it's you know,

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<v Speaker 1>a good idea to pursue other things and this on

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<v Speaker 1>the side, or I have very realistic expectations going in

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<v Speaker 1>how far down that road do want to go? Being

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<v Speaker 1>like a downer where they all walk out and think,

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<v Speaker 1>oh crap, I probably can't do it because he says

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<v Speaker 1>nobody can really do it. And I wish I'd have

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<v Speaker 1>gone over to the UH coding guy and UH had

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<v Speaker 1>him speak about something that I could actually do for

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<v Speaker 1>a living.

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<v Speaker 2>Ai'll be doing the coding. Don't waste time more than this.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, you asked Katie, So I'll let her answer first.

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<v Speaker 2>I have my own answer.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, I don't know that I would discourage them,

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<v Speaker 4>but I would definitely give them a warning.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, whe's why I don't on the competition. What if

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<v Speaker 1>they're smart and funny, I don't need them out there

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<v Speaker 1>competing against me for the rest of my my career.

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<v Speaker 4>But yeah, now then mind them, discourage the hell out

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<v Speaker 4>of them. No, just you know, I would say, I

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<v Speaker 4>like your idea of having a back kind of a

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<v Speaker 4>backup plan.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it's a little like an NBA player going

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<v Speaker 1>in there and talking about this is a career option

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<v Speaker 1>for you, Right, Yeah, I have a backup plan.

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<v Speaker 2>I would I would absolutely emphasize some of the positives,

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<v Speaker 2>but make clear that it is unbelievably competitive, especially now,

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<v Speaker 2>and that you've got to be really compelling all of

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<v Speaker 2>the time. It's a tough thing to do. But you know,

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<v Speaker 2>another message might be and I remember, this is one

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<v Speaker 2>of the few moments of decent parenting I ever generated,

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<v Speaker 2>was explaining to my kids, who all of whom had

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<v Speaker 2>various passion for the arts and music, drama, whatever, And

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<v Speaker 2>I told them, you're not studying math and business and

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<v Speaker 2>English and everything else in case you fail. I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>encouraging you to do these things because I think you're

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<v Speaker 2>going to fail. I said learn this stuff in case

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<v Speaker 2>you succeed, because in show business people will try to

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<v Speaker 2>steal from you every single day of your career, at

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<v Speaker 2>least until you surround yourself with good enough people that

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<v Speaker 2>they're not. You've got to be smart. You gotta be savvy.

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<v Speaker 2>You got to be knowledgeable. You've got to be confident.

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<v Speaker 2>You've got to be a negotiator. You gotta understand finances

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<v Speaker 2>and stuff like that. The last thing you want to

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<v Speaker 2>do is be some sort of naive, uneducated artist who

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<v Speaker 2>just you know, throws yourself to the wolves.

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<v Speaker 1>I know this is this is a dead end. Get

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<v Speaker 1>a job with the state. You get a job with

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<v Speaker 1>the state, you can't fire, you paycheck forever you work

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<v Speaker 1>till you're like fifty, pension and healthcare the rest of

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<v Speaker 1>your life.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, many of you want to understand this, which you're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna keep a bottle of vodka in the bottom draw

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<v Speaker 2>all right, just to get through the day, because there

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<v Speaker 2>are gonna be days you're gonna think I'd rather be dead.

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<v Speaker 2>But a little nip from old uncle Wodka. Set you

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<v Speaker 2>right on the right track, and you'll you'll be fine,

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<v Speaker 2>trust me, just a little nip.

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<v Speaker 1>What about dressing for the part?

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<v Speaker 2>Show up with headphones on?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh god, you know my my, Back when radio was

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<v Speaker 1>in an industry, you actually could go into and get

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<v Speaker 1>a job in whatever town he lived in. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>care how small the town was. They had a radio station,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe two. You could go work out and earn a living.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, that was a long time ago, but even then,

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<v Speaker 1>my first radio teacher in college said almost none of

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<v Speaker 1>you are going to be able to make a living

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<v Speaker 1>in this, and then just wanted you to know. And

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<v Speaker 1>my only thought was that's true for them, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>not true for me. That's the way I thought about it.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm glad she said that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I received similar warnings. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>My mathcom teacher when I was in college did a

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<v Speaker 4>really cool thing with our class that kind of opened

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<v Speaker 4>my eyes to talk radio because we were in that

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<v Speaker 4>whole realm of the class and he had to sit

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<v Speaker 4>silent for one minute and he said that was one minute.

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<v Speaker 4>Imagine talking for four hours, because it made you realize

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<v Speaker 4>how long a minute is when you're just sitting there,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, and it kind of go opened my I

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<v Speaker 4>was like, Wow, that really is that's a skill you have.

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<v Speaker 1>And on I was going to talk a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>about the spoken word is more popular than it's ever

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<v Speaker 1>been in my life, I think with podcasting, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you've all seen some of the amazing podcasting contracts people

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<v Speaker 1>have signed, so spoken words still a great desire for

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<v Speaker 1>it out there. You just have to have an angle,

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<v Speaker 1>be an expert in something, or be funny or charming

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<v Speaker 1>or something or all.

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<v Speaker 2>Of the above. Yeah, just you know, you might want

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<v Speaker 2>to emphasize it takes a hell of a lot of work.

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<v Speaker 2>You've got to be with It sounds easy. It only

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<v Speaker 2>sounds easy because you've worked like crazy to make it

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<v Speaker 2>sound easy. You will sound crappy if you think it

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<v Speaker 2>is easy, unless you're just wildly talented. And although even

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<v Speaker 2>then they're lots of wildly talented people. But what are

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<v Speaker 2>they talking about? What is their topic? What's to handle?

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<v Speaker 2>How do people find their way to you?

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<v Speaker 1>And that's why you should get a job with the

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<v Speaker 1>state exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>And again, bottom drawer, keep it just a little vodka whatever,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, what you ladies, maybe a little schnapps. It's minty,

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<v Speaker 2>it's fresh.

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<v Speaker 4>Wow, ladies, ladies, some schnapps.

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<v Speaker 2>A little slow fizz. You could show him nicky sour

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<v Speaker 2>maybe Candy tell me, tell me what I'm scratching where

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<v Speaker 2>he is?

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, Jackie could show him how the proper way to

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<v Speaker 5>cue a record. You should also give him a pop

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<v Speaker 5>quiz on the laws of EA s testing.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh god, how do how do uh how to splice tape?

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<v Speaker 3>You know?

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<v Speaker 1>I actually might include that in that, And that's true

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<v Speaker 1>for any industry that they go into that. I there

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<v Speaker 1>are several skills I learned and got really good at

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<v Speaker 1>that became immediately worthless when technology changed. And that's just

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<v Speaker 1>the way life is, no matter what you're doing. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and you gotta, you know, keep adapting. You gotta just

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<v Speaker 1>a little bottle.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I guess I've covered that here, you know thoroughly.

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<v Speaker 5>Kids, Let me give you a quiz on Paola. Well,

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<v Speaker 5>I guess that's it.