WEBVTT - Evil Strikes New Zealand 0:00:10.840 --> 0:00:16.160 You are entering the freedom hunt. A horrific mass shooting 0:00:16.160 --> 0:00:21.239 targeting Muslims in New Zealand has politics inflamed in this country. 0:00:21.239 --> 0:00:24.440 We'll talk about what this terrorist was trying to accomplish, 0:00:24.480 --> 0:00:26.720 what we can do to stop future acts like this, 0:00:27.040 --> 0:00:29.520 and also all the latest from politics here in the 0:00:29.600 --> 0:00:31.920 Swamp and on Capitol Hill. That and more coming up 0:00:31.960 --> 0:00:35.320 on the buck Sexton Show. This is the buck Sexton 0:00:35.360 --> 0:00:38.280 Show where the mission or mission is to decode what 0:00:38.479 --> 0:00:45.479 really matters with actionable intelligence. Make no mistake American, You're 0:00:45.479 --> 0:00:51.040 a great American. Again the buck Sexton Show begins. Remember 0:00:56.000 --> 0:01:00.640 this was an attack aimed deliberately at Muslims. A live 0:01:00.720 --> 0:01:04.680 streaming the massacre via a camera mounted on his head. 0:01:05.080 --> 0:01:07.959 We are not showing any of that video at this point, 0:01:08.040 --> 0:01:11.160 but I have watched it for the sake of our reporting. 0:01:11.600 --> 0:01:16.200 It shows the gunman driving calmly toward a mosque playing music, 0:01:16.640 --> 0:01:20.920 talking to himself saying, let's get this party started. He 0:01:21.000 --> 0:01:24.280 then takes weapons from his trunk. He walks toward the mosque, 0:01:24.480 --> 0:01:27.759 which was filling up for Friday prayers. He opens fire, 0:01:28.200 --> 0:01:30.560 gunning down at least two men at the doorway. Then 0:01:30.600 --> 0:01:35.280 he walks inside, he shoots every single person he can see. 0:01:35.640 --> 0:01:38.800 He reloads several times, and at one point goes back 0:01:38.840 --> 0:01:42.120 into a room where two large groups are laying on 0:01:42.160 --> 0:01:46.480 the floor, many of them clearly already dead, some just wounded, 0:01:46.680 --> 0:01:51.200 and he walks calmly around taking kill shots, finishing off 0:01:51.240 --> 0:01:57.920 his victims with head or body shots. It's a tragic 0:01:57.960 --> 0:02:01.280 day for the whole world today because of what has 0:02:01.320 --> 0:02:10.960 happened here in New Zealand. People are understandably rattled, shocked, outraged, furious. 0:02:12.280 --> 0:02:17.400 Forty nine people dead at prayer, forty over forty people wounded, 0:02:20.639 --> 0:02:27.120 and clearly this is one of these national international news 0:02:27.120 --> 0:02:31.359 stories that is going to force a lot of conversations, 0:02:31.360 --> 0:02:35.359 some of them constructive, most of them not. Though within 0:02:36.080 --> 0:02:40.000 minutes of this incident first coming up, within minutes of 0:02:40.000 --> 0:02:44.520 this first becoming something that people were talking about, there 0:02:44.680 --> 0:02:48.600 was an effort to begin to pin to pin blame 0:02:49.360 --> 0:02:53.160 to find. You know, the blame should be pretty straightforward 0:02:53.160 --> 0:02:56.239 in these situations, and I think you all know that 0:02:56.360 --> 0:02:59.920 it is the shooter, the terrorists, the person who engaged 0:03:00.160 --> 0:03:01.960 in these violent acts is the person that we all 0:03:01.960 --> 0:03:06.360 should first and foremost think about as the one deserving 0:03:06.560 --> 0:03:09.480 of blame. They're now in There are a few people 0:03:09.480 --> 0:03:14.399 in custody in New Zealand. But we didn't even have 0:03:14.919 --> 0:03:17.680 the details in fully on this. We did not have 0:03:17.720 --> 0:03:22.960 all that much information when it came about that you 0:03:23.080 --> 0:03:25.600 had some of the most prominent Democrat politicians in the 0:03:25.639 --> 0:03:29.960 country deciding that they would find a way to make 0:03:30.040 --> 0:03:36.040 this about Trump, that this was Trump's fault. Now, I 0:03:36.160 --> 0:03:40.400 read through the entire manifesto of the shooter, as is 0:03:40.440 --> 0:03:45.480 becoming a custom of people in the media. Now, I 0:03:45.520 --> 0:03:48.520 don't know how useful it really is. I don't know 0:03:48.760 --> 0:03:51.480 that it will work. Although there is some research to 0:03:51.520 --> 0:03:56.360 show that these mass shooters crave fame and attention, and 0:03:56.400 --> 0:03:58.640 so the more you give them, the likelier there'll be 0:03:58.680 --> 0:04:01.920 other people that follow when their foots steps. But so 0:04:02.000 --> 0:04:06.600 I won't name him. I don't feel particularly strongly about 0:04:06.640 --> 0:04:09.080 naming one way or the other. But there's there seems 0:04:09.080 --> 0:04:11.040 to be a movement among people in the media that 0:04:11.120 --> 0:04:14.240 I respect, and then I think have good judgment to 0:04:14.320 --> 0:04:17.840 try to avoid just repeating over and over again the 0:04:17.960 --> 0:04:22.839 name of the person who is responsible for this. And 0:04:24.200 --> 0:04:27.679 I did, however, read the manifesto, and there are parts 0:04:27.680 --> 0:04:33.919 in it that were seized upon immediately by Democrats and 0:04:33.960 --> 0:04:37.120 by the mainstream media in this country as a see 0:04:37.800 --> 0:04:39.960 this is tied to the right. The guy said that 0:04:40.080 --> 0:04:43.000 he did not like Trump's policies at all, but he 0:04:43.080 --> 0:04:47.599 likes Trump as a symbol of white nationalism something along 0:04:47.600 --> 0:04:52.880 those lines. He also had a bizarre reference in his manifesto, 0:04:52.960 --> 0:04:56.279 which has been making a lot of This reference in particular, 0:04:56.360 --> 0:04:59.920 has got a lot of attention that I to Candice Owens, 0:05:00.160 --> 0:05:03.039 who I know her work. I know Candice a little bit. 0:05:03.080 --> 0:05:06.960 I've worked with her before. She has nothing to do 0:05:07.680 --> 0:05:11.000 with targeting Muslims or violence or any I mean, it's 0:05:11.080 --> 0:05:13.880 just the guy might as well have said, you know 0:05:14.040 --> 0:05:19.080 a person whose work I really admire is you know, 0:05:19.400 --> 0:05:22.520 Luciano Pavaratti. I mean, it has nothing to do with anything. 0:05:23.600 --> 0:05:26.760 But people seized on that and they tried to say 0:05:26.839 --> 0:05:30.560 that this is just indicative of the way that the 0:05:30.640 --> 0:05:34.840 right wing is fanning these flames of resentment and violence. 0:05:34.880 --> 0:05:37.679 You know, let's let's now take a look, let's step 0:05:37.720 --> 0:05:40.800 back from what the media narrative is of this and 0:05:40.839 --> 0:05:42.880 try to get to a bit more of what the 0:05:42.920 --> 0:05:48.040 truth is here. There are billions of people in the world. 0:05:50.400 --> 0:05:53.640 The truth is that mass shootings on a percentage basis 0:05:53.680 --> 0:05:56.880 around the world are actually are actually quite rare, and 0:05:57.400 --> 0:06:02.240 that a shooting like this by a self described white nationalist, 0:06:02.760 --> 0:06:09.159 as horrific and deeply disturbing as it is, is fortunately 0:06:09.200 --> 0:06:14.880 also very rare. This shooter viewed Anders Brevic, who was 0:06:14.920 --> 0:06:20.560 the shooter in Norway some years ago, as an inspiration 0:06:20.680 --> 0:06:23.960 for him. Bravick was, I think almost a decade ago. 0:06:24.080 --> 0:06:27.360 Now this is a rarity. Doesn't mean it's not horrible. 0:06:27.400 --> 0:06:30.320 It doesn't mean that there won't be and should not 0:06:30.360 --> 0:06:34.760 be follow on consequences and conversations to this. But the 0:06:34.839 --> 0:06:40.320 effort to make this somehow Donald Trump's fault is just 0:06:41.440 --> 0:06:46.040 unfair in every respect. The media and the people in 0:06:46.080 --> 0:06:49.960 the media who are the different different outlets who are 0:06:50.000 --> 0:06:53.880 taking this as an opportunity to score cheap points against 0:06:54.000 --> 0:06:57.440 President Trump, I think they do a disservice to everyone 0:06:57.520 --> 0:07:01.039 right now because there are some things that are not 0:07:01.200 --> 0:07:05.920 political at all. There are some things that aren't about 0:07:05.960 --> 0:07:10.440 where you stand on the US or any other political spectrum. Really, 0:07:10.440 --> 0:07:14.040 it's just about being a human being, and no person 0:07:14.400 --> 0:07:17.240 who was decent, who is moral, who is in his 0:07:17.360 --> 0:07:20.960 or her right mind has anything but contempt for somebody 0:07:21.000 --> 0:07:23.120 who would go into a house of a worship, a 0:07:23.160 --> 0:07:27.160 house of prayer and gun down completely innocent and totally 0:07:27.200 --> 0:07:34.400 helpless people. Instead of uniting in this country and condemnation 0:07:35.440 --> 0:07:39.400 of what happened here, there has been a very clear 0:07:39.720 --> 0:07:46.040 immediate backlash against anybody who is a political target of 0:07:46.120 --> 0:07:50.440 the left. They are playing this game that I've seen 0:07:50.480 --> 0:07:54.360 many times before. Whenever there is jee hottest terrorism, they 0:07:54.400 --> 0:07:58.120 immediately want to explain to us all that gee hottests 0:07:58.160 --> 0:08:01.160 are a very small percentage, that this is not the 0:08:01.160 --> 0:08:04.720 true Islam, that has nothing to do with Islam. And 0:08:04.760 --> 0:08:08.920 I actually think there's a much more in depth conversation 0:08:08.920 --> 0:08:10.600 to be had about whether it has to do with 0:08:10.640 --> 0:08:13.080 Islam or not, and whether you know that there's there's 0:08:13.120 --> 0:08:15.000 real discussion to be had there, and the left never 0:08:15.040 --> 0:08:17.520 wants to have it. They say even bringing that up 0:08:17.640 --> 0:08:21.360 is racist. You know when Obama said famously, the Islamic 0:08:21.400 --> 0:08:24.720 State is not the Islamic North State, Uh, you know 0:08:25.040 --> 0:08:28.960 that that's that was a very debatable proposition. And there 0:08:28.960 --> 0:08:30.440 are a lot of groups all over the world that 0:08:30.480 --> 0:08:34.839 seem confused and regimes that run whole countries that seem 0:08:34.880 --> 0:08:38.240 confused about what the true Islam is. Um. That's not 0:08:38.280 --> 0:08:41.319 to say that Muslims around the world are all radicals, 0:08:41.400 --> 0:08:45.520 quite the quite the opposite, ninety nine plus percent of them, 0:08:45.640 --> 0:08:48.280 or just folks like you and me just trying to, 0:08:48.559 --> 0:08:50.640 you know, take care of the families, feed the kids, 0:08:51.200 --> 0:08:53.959 go about their day to day lives. But an ideology 0:08:54.040 --> 0:08:57.600 of over a billion people is going to have, Unfortunately, 0:08:57.640 --> 0:09:01.520 even with a very small percentage, a large contingent of 0:09:01.720 --> 0:09:05.400 radicals that can be very disruptive, as we saw as 0:09:05.400 --> 0:09:08.800 we have seen in recent years, and horrifically destructive as 0:09:08.800 --> 0:09:13.120 we saw on nine to eleven. White nationalists as a 0:09:13.720 --> 0:09:19.600 as a terror group are in my view, exaggerated as 0:09:19.640 --> 0:09:22.280 a threat in most public discourse and most of the 0:09:22.880 --> 0:09:27.800 news media's mind. And the notion that Donald Trump is 0:09:27.840 --> 0:09:29.800 somehow a white nationalist. I mean, this is a guy 0:09:29.880 --> 0:09:35.280 who is born and raised in New York City and 0:09:35.440 --> 0:09:37.280 no one ever thought he was a white nationalist until 0:09:37.280 --> 0:09:39.280 he ran for president. And now they really think this. 0:09:40.160 --> 0:09:43.640 I don't know if they believe it or if it's 0:09:43.640 --> 0:09:46.560 just useful for them to pretend. On the front page 0:09:46.559 --> 0:09:49.000 of the Washington Post right now, Trump downplays the risk 0:09:49.080 --> 0:09:52.080 of white nationalism. Quote, it's a small group of people. 0:09:52.080 --> 0:09:54.800 That's what the Washington Post is saying. The truth is, 0:09:54.840 --> 0:09:57.280 it is a small group of people. You know, I 0:09:57.360 --> 0:10:01.560 work in conservative media. I know a lot of very 0:10:01.559 --> 0:10:04.440 hardline right wingers. A lot of them are my friends, 0:10:05.240 --> 0:10:12.240 and we all have absolute contempt for white nationalists, neo Nazis, 0:10:12.280 --> 0:10:15.320 anybody like that. We think that not only we have 0:10:15.320 --> 0:10:18.560 contempt for them, we think they're losers. We think they're idiots. 0:10:18.600 --> 0:10:22.720 They don't know anything. Their ideology is really just based 0:10:22.800 --> 0:10:26.600 on resentment of everything because their lives aren't what they 0:10:26.600 --> 0:10:28.560 think they should be, and so they look for answers, 0:10:28.600 --> 0:10:32.400 they look for explanations for that. But there is no 0:10:33.120 --> 0:10:38.640 global support for white nationalism. There is no global threat 0:10:38.679 --> 0:10:41.840 of white nationalism taking over a country. You know, Look 0:10:41.880 --> 0:10:44.360 what you have in Iran, Look what you had in 0:10:44.720 --> 0:10:47.360 the Islamic State in Syria, Look what you had an Afghanistan. 0:10:47.400 --> 0:10:49.600 In these other plays, white nationalism is not about to 0:10:49.600 --> 0:10:52.360 take over a country and maybe get nukes. And these 0:10:52.400 --> 0:10:59.000 are not equivalent forces for global destabilization and for violence 0:10:59.040 --> 0:11:03.200 and causing violence around the world. They're not even they're 0:11:03.200 --> 0:11:06.760 not even close. But right now, what we are being 0:11:06.800 --> 0:11:11.520 told is that President Trump is in some way partially 0:11:11.600 --> 0:11:15.920 responsible for this, and it's so deeply destructive and the 0:11:15.960 --> 0:11:18.719 people who are saying it should be ashamed of themselves 0:11:18.720 --> 0:11:24.280 because there's nothing to back this up whatsoever. But they 0:11:24.320 --> 0:11:27.560 know that the hatred of this president is such that 0:11:27.640 --> 0:11:30.360 they won't even give him. They won't even give him 0:11:30.360 --> 0:11:35.079 the good faith of what is obviously the case that 0:11:35.160 --> 0:11:41.520 President Trump hates what happened in New Zealand, despises this shooter, 0:11:42.200 --> 0:11:44.840 and were it in his powers, commander in chief would 0:11:44.840 --> 0:11:47.200 have done anything and everything to stop this person. But 0:11:47.240 --> 0:11:49.000 of course this was on New Zealand, so I'm not 0:11:49.040 --> 0:11:55.800 on us soil, and that they don't believe that is 0:11:56.559 --> 0:12:01.439 deeply troubling to me. That the left thinks that this 0:12:01.480 --> 0:12:05.120 is an opportunity to tear down this president, and that's 0:12:05.160 --> 0:12:10.679 really their first inclination, and not just President Trump. By 0:12:10.679 --> 0:12:13.880 the way, there are other targets that have also come 0:12:14.000 --> 0:12:16.760 under attack from the left that I have nothing to 0:12:16.800 --> 0:12:20.599 do with this, this terrible event, this mass shooting in 0:12:20.640 --> 0:12:27.640 New Zealand, Alexandriocazzio Cortez has written. She wrote on Twitter 0:12:27.960 --> 0:12:31.559 that thoughts and prayers is a reference to the n 0:12:32.760 --> 0:12:37.800 NRA's phrase used to deflect conversation away from policy change 0:12:37.880 --> 0:12:46.800 during tragedies. That is so insidious and incorrect and stupid, 0:12:47.320 --> 0:12:51.960 it's hard to know where to start. Thoughts and prayers, 0:12:52.600 --> 0:12:58.600 Congresswoman Okazio Cortes, is a reference to thoughts and prayers. 0:12:58.640 --> 0:13:02.760 It's a reference to people wanting to send you know, 0:13:03.160 --> 0:13:07.959 their their prayers of God's grace and support and help 0:13:08.000 --> 0:13:11.880 to individuals in a terrible circumstance and to the families 0:13:11.920 --> 0:13:16.040 left behind. And it's an expression of basic human solidarity 0:13:16.080 --> 0:13:19.840 and goodwill and decency. Thoughts and prayers is not an 0:13:19.960 --> 0:13:25.080 NRA phrase used to stop policy solutions to stop gun violence. 0:13:27.160 --> 0:13:31.400 New Zealand has almost no gun violence as a country, 0:13:32.160 --> 0:13:37.080 has less than less than fifty murders a year in 0:13:37.120 --> 0:13:40.520 a country of five million. There's almost no gun violence 0:13:40.520 --> 0:13:43.199 in New Zealand anyway, So what is the what is 0:13:43.200 --> 0:13:46.600 the policy solution supposed to be for a case like this? 0:13:48.040 --> 0:13:50.800 Don't allow a mass murderer to be a mass murderer 0:13:50.600 --> 0:13:54.600 and to ever exist in the first place. I mean, 0:13:54.600 --> 0:14:01.080 as manifesto is a rambling and incoherent mess of bitterness 0:14:01.160 --> 0:14:06.679 and hatred and disdain for his fellow human beings. And 0:14:06.760 --> 0:14:12.000 yet we're supposed to think that he is connected to 0:14:12.360 --> 0:14:15.880 American conservatism or he doesn't like conservatives. He even says 0:14:15.880 --> 0:14:18.280 in the manifesto he doesn't like Trump on policy. He 0:14:18.320 --> 0:14:20.320 says in the manifesto. I read the whole thing today, 0:14:21.080 --> 0:14:29.000 about seventy pages. He's a racist, He's a true white 0:14:29.080 --> 0:14:36.360 nationalist racist. He's a disgusting discredit to humanity. And he 0:14:36.480 --> 0:14:38.560 killed all these people today of the mosque, and it's horrible, 0:14:38.560 --> 0:14:41.880 and I wish that somebody had been able to interview 0:14:41.960 --> 0:14:44.320 even sooner. It is worth. It is worth I think, 0:14:44.360 --> 0:14:48.160 noting that the reports, at least so far that I've seen, 0:14:48.240 --> 0:14:52.800 or that a Muslim meant who was a legal gun 0:14:52.800 --> 0:14:55.120 owner did manage to return fire on them and may 0:14:55.120 --> 0:14:56.800 have saved a lot of lives in the process. So 0:14:56.920 --> 0:15:02.240 a Muslim hero, he'd step up here. I just wish 0:15:02.280 --> 0:15:04.280 he could have been there at the very beginning and 0:15:04.280 --> 0:15:07.760 stop this whole thing and put two in this shooter's 0:15:07.760 --> 0:15:10.840 head before he was able to hurt anyone. But there 0:15:11.000 --> 0:15:14.760 was there was action, there was heroism, and you know, 0:15:14.920 --> 0:15:16.640 I don't know. I've thought about whether I would watch 0:15:16.640 --> 0:15:19.000 the video I've just seen so many of these terrorist 0:15:19.120 --> 0:15:21.840 videos and beheadings and tortures and everything, and it stays 0:15:21.880 --> 0:15:25.800 with you. And I think we all know, and I 0:15:25.840 --> 0:15:29.640 think that the shooter wants us to watch, And I 0:15:29.680 --> 0:15:32.400 don't know if that really adds a necessary context to it. 0:15:33.360 --> 0:15:35.560 There are no solutions. I don't have any solutions for you. 0:15:35.600 --> 0:15:37.320 People say in back, you worked in counter terrors, and 0:15:37.360 --> 0:15:40.600 what should we do. There's evil in the world, my friends. 0:15:41.080 --> 0:15:45.160 There are evil people who will do evil things. Sometimes 0:15:45.160 --> 0:15:46.560 it will be in the form of a mass shooting. 0:15:46.920 --> 0:15:48.680 Sometimes it will be in the form of a bombing, 0:15:49.040 --> 0:15:51.800 or it will be a militia that goes into a 0:15:51.880 --> 0:15:55.280 village and slaughters everybody, or it will be a systematic 0:15:55.320 --> 0:15:58.560 torture of political opponents. Or there is evil in this world. 0:15:58.760 --> 0:16:01.520 The choice that we make every day is in our 0:16:01.520 --> 0:16:04.400 own way. Do we fight against it? Do we do 0:16:04.440 --> 0:16:09.560 what we can to make sure that evil does not triumph. 0:16:09.760 --> 0:16:12.160 You have a role to play in this. I have 0:16:12.240 --> 0:16:13.760 a role to play in this, all of us do 0:16:14.080 --> 0:16:17.440 every day. Are we kind? Are we decent? Are we honorable? 0:16:17.800 --> 0:16:20.080 Do we treat each other well? Do we stand up 0:16:20.080 --> 0:16:24.680 for one another? Do we show bravery? Do we have integrity. 0:16:24.800 --> 0:16:27.880 That's how we fight evil. Doesn't mean you're going to eliminate. 0:16:27.880 --> 0:16:30.400 It doesn't mean we're gonna win every battle. But we 0:16:30.440 --> 0:16:33.040 do the best we can. And to those on the 0:16:33.040 --> 0:16:35.560 other side of the world who are mourning right now, 0:16:35.600 --> 0:16:38.600 we do send thoughts and prayers. We'll be right back. 0:16:43.280 --> 0:16:45.600 And who is going to be the boogeyman of the 0:16:45.640 --> 0:16:47.400 next ten to twenty years. Who's going to be the 0:16:47.440 --> 0:16:50.080 great rival to the United States in the eyes of 0:16:50.120 --> 0:16:55.680 American society China? That's right, And so what do you 0:16:55.720 --> 0:16:58.840 think the attitude is going to be over time for 0:16:59.040 --> 0:17:02.080 the shrinking in secure, a white majority that's losing their jobs, 0:17:02.880 --> 0:17:08.200 for let's say, Chinese Americans or Asian Americans. I don't. 0:17:08.240 --> 0:17:11.160 I'm like I personally, I said to a group at Harvard, 0:17:11.640 --> 0:17:14.040 I think we're one generation away from falling into the 0:17:14.040 --> 0:17:16.520 same camps as the Jews who were attacked in the 0:17:16.560 --> 0:17:19.160 synagogue in Pittsburgh, like just a couple of months ago. 0:17:19.240 --> 0:17:22.639 It's like, we're probably one generation away from Americans shooting 0:17:22.720 --> 0:17:24.480 up a bunch of Asians saying like, you know, damn 0:17:24.480 --> 0:17:27.960 the Chinese because there's a giant cold war. Even more 0:17:28.359 --> 0:17:31.120 with China That is the great danger that I fear 0:17:31.200 --> 0:17:33.800 that my children are going to grow up in. That's 0:17:33.840 --> 0:17:40.240 Andrew Yang, who's a presidential candidate. He's concerned that the 0:17:40.359 --> 0:17:44.000 competition with China is going to lead to people going 0:17:44.000 --> 0:17:51.320 in and shooting, shooting Asian Asian Americans, shooting up Asian churches. 0:17:53.000 --> 0:17:55.639 You know this, This is not helpful. I mean, what 0:17:55.720 --> 0:17:58.280 you're hearing from people now, what you're hearing from Democrats 0:17:58.440 --> 0:18:04.080 is not in any way adding anything into this conversation 0:18:04.240 --> 0:18:07.639 that will help avert something like this in the future, 0:18:07.720 --> 0:18:12.879 that will help heal. This shooter wanted to create divisions. 0:18:13.040 --> 0:18:15.920 That is what he wanted to do. It was explicit 0:18:16.400 --> 0:18:24.119 in his very manifesto. 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I don't really I think it's a small 0:19:41.560 --> 0:19:44.280 group of people that have very very serious problems. I 0:19:44.359 --> 0:19:47.040 guess if you look at what happened in New Zealand, 0:19:47.080 --> 0:19:49.920 perhaps that's a case. I don't know enough about it yet. 0:19:50.040 --> 0:19:53.600 They're just learning about the person and the people involved, 0:19:54.280 --> 0:19:59.800 but it's certainly a terrible thing, terrible thing. It is 0:19:59.840 --> 0:20:02.159 a small group of people, and you look at the 0:20:02.280 --> 0:20:06.480 grand scheme of things that this violent white nationalists who 0:20:06.520 --> 0:20:08.960 engage in terrorism on a global scale. It is a 0:20:09.040 --> 0:20:11.960 very small group of people, but the President gets a 0:20:12.000 --> 0:20:16.840 lot of a lot of heat for this. People want 0:20:16.920 --> 0:20:20.440 they want to believe that there is some connection to 0:20:21.440 --> 0:20:25.800 President Trump. They want to believe that he is because 0:20:25.840 --> 0:20:28.720 of his rhetoric. You know, he's the reason that this 0:20:28.800 --> 0:20:30.280 is going on. He said, I think it's a small 0:20:30.320 --> 0:20:33.280 group of people that have very very serious problems. Yeah, 0:20:33.280 --> 0:20:36.520 that's right, that is true. And I've been seeing and 0:20:36.560 --> 0:20:38.439 i haven't have watched some of them because I'm on 0:20:38.480 --> 0:20:40.040 air with you, but there have been some panels on 0:20:40.080 --> 0:20:42.560 CNN in the last hour where they're just all coming 0:20:42.600 --> 0:20:44.920 up with ways that you know, Trump's rhetoric inspires this 0:20:45.000 --> 0:20:48.479 and Trump, Trump gives cover to these white nationalists. And 0:20:48.760 --> 0:20:50.920 you know, Trump has said that white nationalists are losers. 0:20:51.000 --> 0:20:53.640 He says that they're they're a joke, that there are 0:20:53.720 --> 0:20:56.680 bad people. It doesn't matter what he says, though, they're 0:20:56.720 --> 0:21:00.199 still going to take this position that Trump is in 0:21:00.240 --> 0:21:04.760 some way a white nationalist sympathizer or you know, he's 0:21:05.760 --> 0:21:08.880 created this this new environment where white nationalists can thrive. 0:21:09.640 --> 0:21:12.880 And I'm gonna just note that whenever, whenever we talk 0:21:12.920 --> 0:21:16.840 about radical Islamic terrorism, that the script is entirely flipped. 0:21:17.440 --> 0:21:21.360 It's it's not the fault of the ideology, it's not 0:21:21.440 --> 0:21:24.240 the fault of anyone on the left for being weak 0:21:24.440 --> 0:21:27.760 on dealing with radical Islam, you know. And in fact, 0:21:27.840 --> 0:21:31.440 they'll often say that the reason for radical Islamic terrorism 0:21:31.640 --> 0:21:39.080 is because of the insufficiently what's the word, the the 0:21:39.119 --> 0:21:44.200 insufficient desire to cave in and do what Islamists want, 0:21:44.800 --> 0:21:49.680 or the inability or the unwillingness of European countries to 0:21:50.160 --> 0:21:53.960 better assimilate their European I mean, there are Islamic minorities 0:21:53.960 --> 0:21:56.639 in Europe. That's that's always a part of that debate 0:21:56.680 --> 0:21:59.960 as well. So I don't have much more to share 0:22:00.240 --> 0:22:03.520 view on this shooting, because, you know, the Prime Minister 0:22:03.560 --> 0:22:06.160 of New Zealand says that gun laws will change. New 0:22:06.200 --> 0:22:11.159 Zealand already has pretty strict gun laws. They don't have 0:22:11.200 --> 0:22:15.160 a full registration the way that the way that Australia does. 0:22:15.480 --> 0:22:17.440 Keep in mind that you won't read this in the 0:22:17.480 --> 0:22:21.720 news coverage of this at all, but Australia's buyback program 0:22:22.160 --> 0:22:24.760 is always listed as being so successful after a mass 0:22:24.760 --> 0:22:27.360 shooting in Australia. They did a buyback, a forced buyback, 0:22:27.680 --> 0:22:31.840 which is confiscation with compensation. That's what that is. And yes, 0:22:31.880 --> 0:22:34.960 there was a decline in violence in Australia. But guess what. 0:22:35.560 --> 0:22:38.640 There are now more guns in circulation in Australia in 0:22:38.680 --> 0:22:43.159 private hands than there were before the buyback program and 0:22:43.320 --> 0:22:47.800 there is less violence. So someone would need to explain 0:22:47.840 --> 0:22:49.679 to me how the buyback program is the cause for 0:22:49.680 --> 0:22:51.560 this drop in violence when there are even more guns 0:22:51.600 --> 0:22:57.919 now in private hands. Look, there's the emotions that people 0:22:57.960 --> 0:23:00.560 have after a mass shooting like this are such that 0:23:00.600 --> 0:23:03.040 they want to take action, especially people who believe that 0:23:03.080 --> 0:23:06.639 their political positions are an extension of their goodness or 0:23:06.680 --> 0:23:11.480 their worthiness as a person. And they also it fits 0:23:11.520 --> 0:23:18.840 in with a view of how we should relate to 0:23:18.960 --> 0:23:21.840 our states, how we should relate to our federal government, 0:23:22.840 --> 0:23:27.359 such that guns are a little private rebellion in the 0:23:27.359 --> 0:23:29.199 hands of citizens. Every gun in the hands of a 0:23:29.280 --> 0:23:32.160 law abiding citizen is a private rebellion against the authority 0:23:32.200 --> 0:23:36.000 of the state. They know that, and people are uncomfortable 0:23:36.040 --> 0:23:37.960 with that. A lot of people do not like that. 0:23:38.560 --> 0:23:41.480 The left in this country has really made guns a 0:23:41.560 --> 0:23:45.520 dividing issue for culture as much as for the Second Amendment. 0:23:46.520 --> 0:23:49.920 The manifesto writer understood this. In fact, he wants this 0:23:50.000 --> 0:23:52.280 to create. In his manifesto, he said he wanted this 0:23:52.400 --> 0:23:57.480 to create a Second Amendment battle in the United States 0:23:57.560 --> 0:23:59.639 that would further divide the country and would lead to 0:24:00.000 --> 0:24:02.960 inflict and civil war. Here, I mean the guy's a 0:24:03.040 --> 0:24:05.200 loon too. Let's remember that. I mean the guy's a loon. 0:24:06.800 --> 0:24:11.119 But there's now this big debate, this big discussion about 0:24:12.240 --> 0:24:14.920 gun control and what we can do next for gun control. 0:24:14.960 --> 0:24:17.280 And I'm sure Democrats will seize on this. And I'll 0:24:17.320 --> 0:24:18.960 tell you this as well, Nothing in this country I 0:24:19.040 --> 0:24:22.440 think will change. It's just not going to Why also 0:24:22.480 --> 0:24:24.960 would anything, Why would our laws change in response to 0:24:25.000 --> 0:24:28.480 what happened in New Zealand. There are still calls for 0:24:28.520 --> 0:24:31.160 this from Democrats because it's such an emotional issue today 0:24:31.160 --> 0:24:35.280 and because people are obviously so psychologically wounded by this. 0:24:35.520 --> 0:24:40.959 But what exactly are we supposed to do. We have 0:24:40.960 --> 0:24:43.199 different laws than New Zealand, we have a different gun situation, 0:24:43.240 --> 0:24:47.919 we have a different constitution than New Zealand, and yet 0:24:48.280 --> 0:24:50.119 we're still going to be told that there needs to 0:24:50.160 --> 0:24:53.520 be immediate action, and if you stand against it, if 0:24:53.520 --> 0:24:57.080 you think that action that will help no one and 0:24:57.119 --> 0:24:59.119 will infringe on rights is a bad idea, they're going 0:24:59.160 --> 0:25:01.720 to say you're a bad person. You're a bad person. 0:25:01.760 --> 0:25:03.959 That's where this is all going next. Because there are 0:25:03.960 --> 0:25:06.959 a gun control efforts from the left. It's not just 0:25:07.040 --> 0:25:09.200 about the guns. It's about their contempt for the people 0:25:09.240 --> 0:25:13.240 who own guns. They don't like gun owners. It is 0:25:13.280 --> 0:25:16.320 a separation between right and left now in this country. 0:25:16.440 --> 0:25:19.239 If you own a gun, the overwhelminglihood is that you 0:25:19.280 --> 0:25:23.040 are more conservative and more likely to be conservative. That's 0:25:23.080 --> 0:25:25.199 just the way it is. I want to switch to 0:25:25.200 --> 0:25:27.600 the border just for a second here, because we got 0:25:27.640 --> 0:25:29.280 a whole bunch of other topics. We'll talk about Beto 0:25:29.760 --> 0:25:33.600 klobishar more Democrat candidates out there in the mix. We'll 0:25:33.640 --> 0:25:37.800 have the latest on the cheating scandal with my friend 0:25:37.880 --> 0:25:39.960