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Speaker 1: to be part of the the well oiled machine, which

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Speaker 1: we know is not really true. But either they're supposed

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Speaker 1: to be part of the of a functioning federal bureaucracy,

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Speaker 1: and their finding ways to lash out, to slow things

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Speaker 1: down and to cause trouble. I think within the e

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Speaker 1: p A will have more trouble. We've already had trouble

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Speaker 1: from the d O J. And to me, they're just

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Speaker 1: trying to stop the president from doing what a president

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Speaker 1: is supposed to do because they don't like it. Right,

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Speaker 1: And I can relate to this first hand, Buckle. I

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Speaker 1: wrote my first book on active duty. It was critical

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Speaker 1: of President Obama. I didn't take action against them. I

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Speaker 1: actually expressly expressly stated in the book, he is my

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Speaker 1: commander in chief and I will obey his lawful orders

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Speaker 1: that said I disagree with policy X, Y and Z,

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Speaker 1: and they hammered me. I went through a four year

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Speaker 1: lawsuit just over that. Imagine if I had actually acted

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Speaker 1: against the U. S. Military or the President United States.

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Speaker 1: I mean, this is what they're doing right now, and

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Speaker 1: it is it's not only crippling the United States of America,

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Speaker 1: but it's crippling progress. I mean, Donald Trump has displayed

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Speaker 1: his ability to create progress and accomplish things. These people

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Speaker 1: are putting their stopping that they're trying to stifle his

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Speaker 1: his progress so they can run against it in three

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Speaker 1: and a half years. And Trump is saying things on

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Speaker 1: immigration that you would think might quiet some of them.

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Speaker 1: I know a lot of the critics will hate them

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Speaker 1: no matter well, but maybe some of them would see, Okay,

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Speaker 1: he's not he's he's not going to eliminate DOCTA, at

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Speaker 1: least not right now. He understands their sensitivities around that.

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Speaker 1: He has expressed sympathy for those kids, but he doesn't

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Speaker 1: have sympathy for criminal illegal aliens, gang members, murderers, rapists,

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Speaker 1: and he's mentioned this. In fact, let's play some of

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Speaker 1: the audio on Trump gang members. Please see what's happening

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Speaker 1: at the border. All of a sudden, for the first time,

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Speaker 1: we're getting gang members out, we're getting drug lords out,

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Speaker 1: We're getting really bad dudes out of this country and

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Speaker 1: at a rate that nobody's ever seen before. And they're

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Speaker 1: the bad ones. And it's a military operation because what

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Speaker 1: has been allowed to come into our country. When you

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Speaker 1: see gang violence that you've read about like never before,

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Speaker 1: and all of the things, much of that is people

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Speaker 1: that are here illegally and they're rough and they're tough,

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Speaker 1: but they're not tough like our people, so we're getting

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Speaker 1: them out. Well, what's the problem with that, Carl, Because

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Speaker 1: because there are people that have problems, even with the

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Speaker 1: recent wave of deportations that did target predominantly, even by

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Speaker 1: the l A. Times, the Washington Post their own analysis

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Speaker 1: and reporting people who are real criminals, who are threats

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Speaker 1: to public safety, but there's still this. Then then you

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Speaker 1: have articles on page you know, just below the fold

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Speaker 1: on how illegal aliens across or no, pardon me, immigrants.

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Speaker 1: They just say immigrants. They don't even say legal aliens.

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Speaker 1: Of course, they don't even say undocumented until three paragraphs

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Speaker 1: into the story how they're under a self imposed house arrest.

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Speaker 1: I read that today because they're also terrified. Yeah, well

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Speaker 1: this is like the woman also who locked herself in

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Speaker 1: a church because people religious freedom with supersede her deportation order.

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Speaker 1: I mean, this is the propaganda again from the left

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Speaker 1: is like, is uncanny. And now he said that I

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Speaker 1: know the left is up in arms over his military

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Speaker 1: operation comment, which Spicer than you know, walked back a

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Speaker 1: little bit saying that he meant military precision. But I

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Speaker 1: don't really care whether you know, he uses the term

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Speaker 1: military that he uses the National Guard to use his

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Speaker 1: law enforces. I don't care. I don't want these bad

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Speaker 1: own braids in my country because it doesn't help our

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Speaker 1: country progress. Everything he does has the bottom line of

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Speaker 1: how to make America's safe. I think there are a

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Speaker 1: lot of people that don't know who criticize all these orders.

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Speaker 1: The National Guard has in previous recent administrations been sent

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Speaker 1: to help out at the southern border. Uh. They weren't

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Speaker 1: necessarily the first line, first line or arresting authority, but

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Speaker 1: they were doing surveillance and assistance and logistics and helping

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Speaker 1: to catch illegal crossers legally illegal crossings. So that's not

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Speaker 1: even a craze. The idea based on what administrations before

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Speaker 1: Trump has done. But now it's always it's always supposed

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Speaker 1: to conjuct the sphere of like Orwellian world where U. S.

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Speaker 1: Military are kicking indoors in Los Angeles and and splitting

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Speaker 1: up families and in the dead of night. And this

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Speaker 1: is what this is what the mainstream papers are all saying.

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Speaker 1: So I can understand that those who believe what they're

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Speaker 1: reading in these big papers with their fancy, fancy banners

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Speaker 1: in large circulation, UH, that this is what they think

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Speaker 1: is gonna happen. It's really damaging though, for this is

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Speaker 1: for this to be the place that debates going. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and then the left has succeeded in making this a

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Speaker 1: culture of unaccountability, and through these publications they're they're victimizing

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Speaker 1: the people who are breaking the laws, and people like

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Speaker 1: you and I are being made out to be the

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Speaker 1: racist and the biggest and the homophobes and heartless and

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Speaker 1: mindless because we want to God forbid, send somebody back

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Speaker 1: to a country they came from when they came here illegally,

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Speaker 1: Like illegally is the key word. They're like, I don't

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Speaker 1: know how much simple as could be, but suck. Now

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Speaker 1: the national security team that Trump has put together that

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Speaker 1: stopped the story of a national national security novices and

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Speaker 1: and you know, the National Security Council and disarray. Flynn

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Speaker 1: asked to step down. He did. MC Master is a

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Speaker 1: fantastic choice, even by even the most progressive lefty, you know,

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Speaker 1: code Pink Democrat is like, yeah, big Master, he's a

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Speaker 1: smart guy. So at least that's quite a that down.

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Speaker 1: But when do you think we'll start to see some

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Speaker 1: action on national security or at least some specifics in

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Speaker 1: the discussion of Trump administration strategy Visa VI, the major

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Speaker 1: hotspots rocks, Syria, Afghanistan, and also combating Islamic terrorism. Is

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Speaker 1: that going to be soon or is that going to

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Speaker 1: take some months. Well, here's the thing is, he did

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Speaker 1: release that memorandum to give him a plan in thirty days.

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Speaker 1: But I will say, do not expect him to release

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Speaker 1: the plan on how he's going to do this. Just

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Speaker 1: expect him to start doing stuff and you're gonna find

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Speaker 1: out once it's done. Because he ran on that he

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Speaker 1: doesn't want to give anyway, get anything away to the enemy.

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Speaker 1: So I mean, I mean this, this administration with the

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Speaker 1: politicoes and the the left is still stuck around in

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Speaker 1: there is leaking like a sieve. But once Trump squares

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Speaker 1: that away, don't expect to know a lot about this

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Speaker 1: stuff until after it's already happened. Now, Carl, I want

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Speaker 1: to talk to you about problems facing veterans, but we're

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Speaker 1: gonna run into a break here. Can you stay through

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Speaker 1: the break? You have a couple of minutes. Just hit

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Speaker 1: this neither side. Alright, Great, We've got Carl Haby, former

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Speaker 1: Navy seal and Trump supporter and commentator. He's going to

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Speaker 1: join us to the the other side of talk about some

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Speaker 1: of the very real, very serious and and tragic problems

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Speaker 1: that are facing our veterans today. To stay with us,

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Speaker 1: we'll hit it the other side of the break. Can everybody,

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Speaker 1: We're back and great to have you here with me

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Speaker 1: in the Freedom Hunt. Our friend Carl Higby is the guest.

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Speaker 1: He's a former Navy seal and author of Enemies, Foreign

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Speaker 1: and Domestic Seals Story. Carl, I wanted to ask you

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Speaker 1: about some of the problems, some of the challenges facing

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Speaker 1: our veterans. I know this is an issue near and

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Speaker 1: dear to your heart, Um, and you're worried about a

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Speaker 1: common v A practice that you think leads to some

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Speaker 1: of these very serious problems, including suicides. Tell me about

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Speaker 1: what's going on here. Yeah, so you know, this is

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Speaker 1: something obviously I'm very passionate about, Buck, you understands very

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Speaker 1: close to your hard too. But veterans are killing, you know,

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Speaker 1: like loud In two vets took their own lives. They

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Speaker 1: killed themselves. Those were using VA services, most of which

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Speaker 1: were on heavy medications. And there's like you know, there's

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Speaker 1: a million examples of these, but there's a guy at

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Speaker 1: Scott McDonald Jason's Samowsky. These guys were on potent cocktails

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Speaker 1: of v A prescribed medication that absolutely killed them. Like

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Speaker 1: the autopsy said, these medications had a deadly interaction and

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Speaker 1: they killed them. I mean, this has been gone over

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Speaker 1: time and time again in congressional inquiries, and the new

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Speaker 1: v A Secretary has a big responsibility to stop this.

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Speaker 1: I want to ask what the Trump administration with the

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Speaker 1: new VA Secretary can do here. What are the steps

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Speaker 1: you think that they should take. Well, you know, there's

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Speaker 1: a very simple solution to this. There that there's something

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Speaker 1: that's inside the v A right now that's already approved

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Speaker 1: for use in the VA is using it. They're just

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Speaker 1: not applying it. There's a genetic test that they can do.

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Speaker 1: It's like a Q tip. They swab the inside of

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Speaker 1: your mouth, they test it, and it gives you them

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Speaker 1: gives you the genetic code of the veteran. They can

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Speaker 1: proper using that genetic code, they properly prescribe you the

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Speaker 1: right medications. There's a company out there, it's called Advanced

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Speaker 1: Genomic Solutions. They will they will. They're not the ones

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Speaker 1: that are in the v A, but they will mail

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Speaker 1: any veteran test for free and that veteran can take

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Speaker 1: it to the v A. The doctor will administer the

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Speaker 1: test and it won't cost them a dime. It's covered

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Speaker 1: through the v A and everything, and you can go

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Speaker 1: to their website. It's a g S dash health dot

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Speaker 1: com slash veterans. How do how did you come upon this?

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Speaker 1: I'll be honest you, Carl, I've never heard of this

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Speaker 1: company or even this test. That's the thing. The v

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Speaker 1: A has tested over five hundred thousand veterans to date,

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Speaker 1: but they never give the veterans back their their analysis.

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Speaker 1: What you GS does advance to know much solutions. They

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Speaker 1: actually have an app that you can download on your phone.

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Speaker 1: Type in the medication and it will tell the venom

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Speaker 1: right there if it's the right or wrong medication based

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Speaker 1: on their genetic codey. I mean, it's like the fact

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Speaker 1: that you've never heard of it is the same reason

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Speaker 1: that many many other veterans haven't heard of. It is

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Speaker 1: because the v A does not want this to get

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Speaker 1: out because they're so heavily endowed by the pharmaceutical lobbyist.

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Speaker 1: I was about to ask you, is this is this

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Speaker 1: a big farmer problem? Is this the the the unholy

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Speaker 1: alliance between government entities and corporations. Is that really what's

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Speaker 1: going on? Absolutely? And you know what it is. It

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Speaker 1: is literally the fact that the VA is not using

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Speaker 1: this test. That the VA Shalkin could come in tomorrow

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Speaker 1: and say, before you prescribe a medication, you have to

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Speaker 1: administer this test, this genetic test. And if you're a

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Speaker 1: veteran asked for the test, and they have to give

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Speaker 1: it to you because it's already there and it doesn't

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Speaker 1: cost you anything, it's already paid for by the v A.

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Speaker 1: The pharmaceutical companies are squashing it though. All so people

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Speaker 1: can go and check this out. And I I assume

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Speaker 1: you're going to be pushing hard. Given your contacts in

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Speaker 1: the Trump administration, you should be able to get to Carl.

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Speaker 1: I would I would imagine access to the v A

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Speaker 1: secretary and get this in front of him. Is that

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Speaker 1: am I? Is that pie in the sky? Do you

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Speaker 1: think that might happen? That's the plan I intend to

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Speaker 1: because it's an easy way to start saving you know,

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Speaker 1: as much as five to six thousand veterans lives a

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Speaker 1: year based on this. And like I said, you can

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Speaker 1: go to h G s dash health dot com. Slash

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Speaker 1: your veterans and they're not. They're going to send you

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Speaker 1: a test for free, and you can get it for

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Speaker 1: your brother, your sister, you're any veteran you know, get

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Speaker 1: it for him. Carl Hagby is a former Navy seal

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Speaker 1: and he's a Trump supporter and political commentator, author of

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Speaker 1: Enemies Foreign and Domestic. You can go to Carl Higbee

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Speaker 1: dot com for more. Carl, appreciate you staying with us,

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Speaker 1: and thank you for your service and your time, sir.

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Speaker 1: Thank you absolute absolutely talk to you soon, all right,

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Speaker 1: Team buck phone lines are open. We can take a

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Speaker 1: Josh in Ohio. What's up, Josh? Hey, it's fine. I

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Speaker 1: was about the immigration. How you guys are talking about

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Speaker 1: the deportation. Um. I'm all for deporting those who are

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Speaker 1: criminals broken the law, but I don't believe deportation alone

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Speaker 1: will solve anything, because they found the way into this

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Speaker 1: country one and some of them have found their way

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Speaker 1: into this country more than one. Right, the individual who

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Speaker 1: ended up killing Kate Steinley in San Francisco had already

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Speaker 1: been deported I believe five times now, but this is

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Speaker 1: this then brings up Josh. Not the deportation isn't effective.

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Speaker 1: It's a deportation alone, is not a policy. Deportation is

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Speaker 1: one tool in what has to be a much bigger

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Speaker 1: tool kit of interior enforcement, which includes visa overstays, workplace enforced,

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Speaker 1: which includes e verify u any. There's a whole host

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Speaker 1: of different ways that you have to come at the

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Speaker 1: immigration issue on the enforcement side, so that deportations are

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Speaker 1: final otherwise, you know, and of course securing the southern

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Speaker 1: border in a wall. I mean that that's you know,

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Speaker 1: very high on the list too, So you have to

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Speaker 1: put these things in place or else you could have

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Speaker 1: returnnees after deportation, and think of how discouraging that would

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Speaker 1: have to be for ice officers, you know, if it

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Speaker 1: was if it's easy for somebody to come back after

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Speaker 1: being deported, Clearly there are huge holes in the system.

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Speaker 1: And the other thing is, you know, it kind of

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Speaker 1: lends cres to trumps other immigration, uh travel you know that.

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Speaker 1: M Well, that's a perfect segment, my friend, Josh, because

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna talk about the travel band and the latest

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Speaker 1: updates on it right after we come back. Josh in Ohio.

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Speaker 1: She old time man. Thank you very much for calling in.

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Speaker 1: Buck Sexton with America Now, sharp mind, strong voice, Buck Sexton,

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Speaker 1: seeing Buck, Welcome back to the Freedom Hut. Thank you

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Speaker 1: so much for being with me. Great to have you

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Speaker 1: as always. Phones are open eight four four nine to

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Speaker 1: eight to five eight four Buck b U c K.

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Speaker 1: So the travel ban I wanted to get into a

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Speaker 1: little bit. I was alluding earlier in the show to

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Speaker 1: the bureaucracies objections to the Trump administration, objections that they're

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Speaker 1: not supposed to have. If you don't want to work

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Speaker 1: for the federal government, you don't have to just leave,

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Speaker 1: just resign. But because you don't like the commander in

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Speaker 1: chief doesn't mean that you can refuse to do your

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Speaker 1: job or intentionally cause problems to slow things down, make

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Speaker 1: things more difficult for the administration. Now, we haven't seen

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Speaker 1: much of that happening, but we have, well, we've seen

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Speaker 1: some of it. Yeah, that you had the acting Attorney General,

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Speaker 1: Sally Yates, who she didn't she could have just resigned. No,

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Speaker 1: she directly contradicted the president while serving in the executive

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Speaker 1: branch and she had to be fired. She also was involved,

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Speaker 1: And we don't know the full details yet. This is

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Speaker 1: part of what I want to find out the investigation.

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Speaker 1: So many people are focused. So many people want to

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Speaker 1: look into Trump's Russia ties, and I understand that. I

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Speaker 1: get that they want just give them something to hang

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Speaker 1: their hat on. For Donald Trump as a trader, he's

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Speaker 1: a sellout to Russia. People who have never thought much

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Speaker 1: about Russia before in their lives certainly have no familiarity

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Speaker 1: with the Russian intelligence services have no familiarity with the

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Speaker 1: Kremlin of the Duma or how any of this operates.

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Speaker 1: Vladimir Putin where he comes from. Now, they're all Russia experts.

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Speaker 1: Now all of a sudden, they're they're they're brushing up

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Speaker 1: their their Russian they're Russian dictionary so that they can

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Speaker 1: come out there and sound like they know what's going

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Speaker 1: on with the Trump administration on this. But fine, investigate,

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Speaker 1: look at the ties, do whatever you think you have

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Speaker 1: to do in order to get to the bottom of this,

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Speaker 1: because they're gonna do it anyway, so saying don't do

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Speaker 1: it doesn't really have any effect one way or the other.

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Speaker 1: I think that it would be the only way that

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Speaker 1: we could put this to bed finally and we can

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Speaker 1: stop hearing about how Trump is a trader. Do I

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Speaker 1: think it's possible that one of his former senior advisors

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Speaker 1: was involved with not just shady dealings but perhaps illegal Yeah,

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Speaker 1: of course, I think I think that's possible. I don't know, um,

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Speaker 1: but it's possible. Do I think that there's a special

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Speaker 1: that that Trump carries around a burner cell phone that

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Speaker 1: only Vladimir Putin has access to, and he's like tromp.

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Speaker 1: You hope to do the thing where you destroy your country,

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Speaker 1: you sell them out and make it very hard for

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Speaker 1: them to understand what you're doing. No, I don't think

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Speaker 1: that's happening at all. Again, my Russian is sounding so

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Speaker 1: count chocolate these days. I've got to work on that. Um. Nonetheless, hello,

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Speaker 1: Count Chocula. Uh is that a chocolate even sounds? Maybe

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Speaker 1: I'm just doing a bad Dracula impression. I think that

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Speaker 1: I'm doing Count chocola. I never ate that serial. By

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Speaker 1: the way, I was never much of a serial person,

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Speaker 1: and now I'm as Celiac, so there's a lot of

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Speaker 1: cereals that I can eat. It's all wheat based. So

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Speaker 1: where were we? Oh? Yeah, that's right. I want to

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Speaker 1: know what the connections were between Sally Yates and those

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Speaker 1: who were releasing it, if there were any connections and

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Speaker 1: Sally Rates and those who were leaking information to the

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Speaker 1: press about the classified phone call that occurred between Trump

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Speaker 1: and the I'm sorry, between Flynn and the Russian ambassador,

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Speaker 1: as well as the phone call between Trump and the

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Speaker 1: Mexican Mexican officials. Keep in mind that that's what I

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Speaker 1: mean by trying to trying to step outside their lane.

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Speaker 1: That's not playing by the rules, that's not doing your job.

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Speaker 1: That's My politics matter more than the executive branches, Um,

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Speaker 1: the executive branches obligations to the American people. My judgment

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Speaker 1: on political matters matters more than what the United States

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Speaker 1: duly elected president thinks about any given issue and his

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Speaker 1: decisions on that issue. So I do have to say,

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Speaker 1: I I find it. I find it pretty pretty annoying

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Speaker 1: to see this happening. And we also have and I'm

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Speaker 1: I asked him to come on on Twitter. UM. I

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Speaker 1: asked him to come on to come on the show tonight.

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Speaker 1: And I will let you know that there are some

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Speaker 1: people in media and I'm not sure that he well,

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Speaker 1: I think he is trying to start a media career,

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Speaker 1: which is why he wrote for the Washington Post that

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Speaker 1: he quit the c i A because of UM, because

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Speaker 1: of Trump. But you have Washington Post ads clarification noting

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Speaker 1: that Ned Price is Clinton donor UH. And this is

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Speaker 1: in response to the piece Ned Price political contributions to doubt.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, this is in response to his piece that

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Speaker 1: he uh that career CI analyst Ned Price quits rather

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Speaker 1: than serve Trump. That's on NPR. Here's a funny thing

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Speaker 1: with us. I know Ned. We haven't spoken a little while,

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Speaker 1: but we knew each other, and I could have told

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Speaker 1: you a long time ago that he's a Democrat. So

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Speaker 1: that's that's not surprising to me at all. And I

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Speaker 1: I totally am fine with somebody like me. Look, I

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Speaker 1: came out of the c I A And became a

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Speaker 1: conservative radio host, political commentator or whatever whatever else that

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Speaker 1: I am. But I didn't do any of that stuff

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Speaker 1: when I was inside the government. I left. I was

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Speaker 1: no longer getting a federal government paycheck when I did it.

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Speaker 1: Now letting Ned uh left? He wrote a piece the

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Speaker 1: Washington Post after leaving. He had, I believe, worked with

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Speaker 1: with Ben Rhodes, who was the Deputy National Security Advisor

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Speaker 1: for Strategic Communications UM in the White House. I mean,

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Speaker 1: he had been somebody who was involved with the Obama administration.

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Speaker 1: But anyway, I know Ned, and Ned is a nice guy.

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Speaker 1: But here he's gotten caught in an interesting position because

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Speaker 1: he says that he quit. I'm just reading you from

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Speaker 1: from the NPR upside your career, CEI analyst Ned Price

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Speaker 1: quits rather than serve Trump. Uh well, he already it seems.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he's already a Democrat. I don't know why

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Speaker 1: this is so surprising to people, and plenty of people

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Speaker 1: leave the intelligence community, and they held this up like

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Speaker 1: he was a whistleblower. When he's given money to Hillary

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Speaker 1: and the d n C. That's a matter of public

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Speaker 1: record and that comes out. So the Washington Post had

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Speaker 1: to add a clarification, Um that ned Price is a

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Speaker 1: he was an Obama aide. Here's what says. Obama aide

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Speaker 1: quit under Trump said decision was not about politics. So

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Speaker 1: he gave five thousand dollars to Hillary Clinton's effort. That's

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Speaker 1: a lot for a government employee. Five thousand dollars for

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Speaker 1: a Hillary Clinton's failed effort to defeat Donald Trump. And

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Speaker 1: the clarification the Post had to had to add in

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Speaker 1: here is that this column should have included a disclosure

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Speaker 1: of donations made by author Edward Price in support of

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Speaker 1: of five thousand dollars to the Clinton campaign and the

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Speaker 1: Democratic Party. Um, so, okay, it's the guy's a Democrat. Yeah. Sorry.

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Speaker 1: He was working as an assistant to Deputy National Security

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Speaker 1: Advisor Ben Rhodes, so Ned, whom I know and is

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Speaker 1: a nice guy. But is it just a lefty Democrat,

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Speaker 1: which is what you know, you're allowed to be. That's

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Speaker 1: cool whatever, But it's funny. I know, Ned, I know

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Speaker 1: that some of the other people that are that are

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Speaker 1: popping out of the intelligence community these days and going

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Speaker 1: on the media. It's like all of it's all of

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Speaker 1: Buck's old drinking gang from d C. Well, I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: try to get sell them on the show, even the Democrats,

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Speaker 1: because we're we're friends. I want to hear what they

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Speaker 1: have to say. I don't see we don't do what

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Speaker 1: they do. And this is always and I don't mean

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Speaker 1: they as in my friends, but we don't do what

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Speaker 1: the Democrats do in general, which is a side that

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Speaker 1: we can't be friends. We can't be civil to people

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Speaker 1: who have different politics from us. That's just not that's

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Speaker 1: just not how we roll as conservatives. It's not what

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Speaker 1: we do. It's not no, that's not certainly not how

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Speaker 1: I do things. I got plenty of it's fun lefty friends.

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Speaker 1: They hang out, they get a couple of drinks, they

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Speaker 1: start talking about how Bernie Sanders is so great. You

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Speaker 1: point out that Bernie Sanders, this is a socialist who

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Speaker 1: has three houses. So in that sense, I guess he's

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Speaker 1: a he's a great sort of Soviet style socialist or

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Speaker 1: Venezuelan socialist party leader. You know, they do fine. It's

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Speaker 1: everybody else that has a really rough time. So Sanders, yeah,

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Speaker 1: three houses. Um, but ned Ned quits, he leaves the CIA,

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Speaker 1: and they all sees on this because they're hoping this

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Speaker 1: is an example of the nonpartisan intelligence officer who just

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Speaker 1: wants to service country but can't under Trump. Net is

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Speaker 1: a net is a smart guy. I would I do

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Speaker 1: not trash people who are my friends, and I would

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Speaker 1: not pretend I haven't seen the guy or talk to

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Speaker 1: him in a very long time. Um, but you know,

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Speaker 1: ned Ned's a nice dude. But here they were, they

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Speaker 1: ran with this story, and they ran with this story,

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Speaker 1: and they're now having to backtrack a little bit because well,

853
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Speaker 1: here they are pointing out that he gave a lot

854
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Speaker 1: of money to Democrats. So this is the supposed to

855
00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:03,480
Speaker 1: be a moment of oh see, you can't be your

856
00:47:03,560 --> 00:47:06,040
Speaker 1: career intelligence officer, you have to leave because of Trump.

857
00:47:06,040 --> 00:47:08,600
Speaker 1: The media runs the Washington Post column, Oh it's also good,

858
00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:12,480
Speaker 1: But now you're a partisan, which is fine. I'm a

859
00:47:12,520 --> 00:47:15,080
Speaker 1: partisan people. You're allowed to be partisan. Let's just not

860
00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:19,120
Speaker 1: pretend that the it was the professional the insult your

861
00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:22,359
Speaker 1: professional integrity that forced you to leave. Does anyone think

862
00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:25,120
Speaker 1: that I wanted to be writing for the President's daily

863
00:47:25,120 --> 00:47:30,120
Speaker 1: brief for Obama? Does anyone think that? Uh? No, I

864
00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:32,799
Speaker 1: I was not thrilled about that prospect. I did not

865
00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:35,960
Speaker 1: think that Obama was the genius that so many others,

866
00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:38,160
Speaker 1: based on what evidence I don't know, thought that he

867
00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:41,400
Speaker 1: was skilled politician. But that's not the same thing as

868
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:43,920
Speaker 1: being a genius. Geniuses have gifts and abilities that other

869
00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:46,040
Speaker 1: people don't have, and can do things that other people

870
00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:49,040
Speaker 1: can't do. I can read off a teleprompter really well too.

871
00:47:49,120 --> 00:47:51,160
Speaker 1: That does not make you a genius. But I digress.

872
00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:54,120
Speaker 1: Uh So, anyway, the price, I just want to throw that.

873
00:47:54,239 --> 00:47:55,680
Speaker 1: I asked him to come on the show tonight and

874
00:47:55,719 --> 00:47:58,640
Speaker 1: maybe maybe he'll join. Um. I asked him to uh

875
00:47:58,840 --> 00:48:00,440
Speaker 1: to come on. I don't know if you will or not.

876
00:48:00,520 --> 00:48:03,080
Speaker 1: He probably has gotta he's probably working on the contract

877
00:48:03,120 --> 00:48:06,719
Speaker 1: with MSNBC right now. Will never talk to me again. Um.

878
00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:11,360
Speaker 1: But anyway, Uh where was I on all this? Oh? Yeah,

879
00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:15,000
Speaker 1: the bureaucracy. Now, they're also saying that they feel like

880
00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:18,520
Speaker 1: there's a politicization going on because the Trump administration is

881
00:48:18,680 --> 00:48:26,640
Speaker 1: trying to push people into giving them evidence that, uh,

882
00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:29,720
Speaker 1: the seven countries under the travel order that we're banned

883
00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:35,239
Speaker 1: are bad, dangerous countries from a terrorism perspective, when you're

884
00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:39,680
Speaker 1: talking about Yemen and Somalia and Sudan and Iraq and Syria,

885
00:48:39,719 --> 00:48:43,200
Speaker 1: and this doesn't strike me as a very hard case

886
00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:47,440
Speaker 1: to make. But already people from within the bureaucracy, remember

887
00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:49,960
Speaker 1: stopping a president from doing what he should be able

888
00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:52,960
Speaker 1: to do, not exceeding his authority, just stopping him from

889
00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:57,840
Speaker 1: doing what is within his authority. Oh, they're having objections

890
00:48:57,840 --> 00:49:00,279
Speaker 1: to this. They're already leaking out to different news verses

891
00:49:00,320 --> 00:49:02,279
Speaker 1: that they have a problem here. So let me give

892
00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:03,759
Speaker 1: you a little more of the details of that on

893
00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:05,480
Speaker 1: the other side of the break, and then we've got

894
00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:07,560
Speaker 1: a whole lot more show for you on all kinds

895
00:49:07,560 --> 00:49:10,959
Speaker 1: of stuff. Eight four four, nine to eight to five,

896
00:49:11,040 --> 00:49:16,759
Speaker 1: Team Buck, We will be right back, all right, Team Buck,

897
00:49:16,800 --> 00:49:19,359
Speaker 1: welcome back to the Freedom Hunt. Great to have you.

898
00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:22,719
Speaker 1: I really appreciate it, and uh, I feel like I'm

899
00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:27,200
Speaker 1: managing to fix my phone and my computer after and

900
00:49:27,320 --> 00:49:30,560
Speaker 1: my iPad, and I just I decided today that I

901
00:49:30,560 --> 00:49:34,600
Speaker 1: was going to tackle all those problems. And I it

902
00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:36,880
Speaker 1: just is so frustrating. I wish I was good at

903
00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:38,799
Speaker 1: the technology stuff, but I was never good at even

904
00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:41,799
Speaker 1: programming the VCR back in the day. So and I know,

905
00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:44,560
Speaker 1: VCRs a thing that people used to have that they don't.

906
00:49:44,600 --> 00:49:47,920
Speaker 1: They don't really have anymore, not even CDs. Remember when

907
00:49:47,960 --> 00:49:50,200
Speaker 1: I had a whole case of my CDs, A treasured

908
00:49:50,239 --> 00:49:52,960
Speaker 1: possession of my CDs. Now I don't. I don't even

909
00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:54,680
Speaker 1: know what you'd use them for, like a little mini

910
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Speaker 1: Frisbees or something. J D and California on k f

911
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Speaker 1: N Y, you're on the Buck Sexton Show, Sir, what

912
00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:06,680
Speaker 1: is up? Hey? Back? What I was going to talk

913
00:50:06,719 --> 00:50:11,919
Speaker 1: about was these security leaks and and they talked about

914
00:50:11,960 --> 00:50:15,240
Speaker 1: it on a Limb to Day and uh Jay's Teculo

915
00:50:15,480 --> 00:50:20,040
Speaker 1: on on Hannity Show. Yeah, with the master gentleman mastering

916
00:50:20,120 --> 00:50:23,520
Speaker 1: there now. Uh and he's gonna bring his people in,

917
00:50:25,200 --> 00:50:31,040
Speaker 1: uh old Sama. He seventeen days before he got out,

918
00:50:31,960 --> 00:50:36,759
Speaker 1: he said, Okay, Obama, all these all these agencies are

919
00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:40,200
Speaker 1: going to get all this raw data where it used

920
00:50:40,200 --> 00:50:44,279
Speaker 1: to be. Just hey, and then they doled it out

921
00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:47,200
Speaker 1: where it needed to go. Why have not? Why have

922
00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:50,799
Speaker 1: not they resented that? I don't know what you're I

923
00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:54,320
Speaker 1: don't know what specifically you're referring to about the wider

924
00:50:54,400 --> 00:50:56,759
Speaker 1: They might have increased sharing inside the i C. I

925
00:50:56,840 --> 00:50:59,799
Speaker 1: don't know, but information sharing within the i C, if

926
00:50:59,840 --> 00:51:02,799
Speaker 1: you the proper clearance has been a longstanding practice. So

927
00:51:03,440 --> 00:51:06,600
Speaker 1: you know, signals signals intelligence that n s A gets,

928
00:51:06,640 --> 00:51:10,840
Speaker 1: doesn't you know, doesn't just stay in n s A. No, No,

929
00:51:10,920 --> 00:51:15,080
Speaker 1: That's why I'm saying. Though, they determine where it needs

930
00:51:15,120 --> 00:51:19,359
Speaker 1: to be go to. Okay, in other words, okay, this

931
00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:21,799
Speaker 1: agency could use it, and this agency could use it,

932
00:51:21,840 --> 00:51:24,920
Speaker 1: and this agency can use it. But now what Obama

933
00:51:24,960 --> 00:51:27,560
Speaker 1: did only seventeen days before? You get that they Why

934
00:51:27,600 --> 00:51:30,240
Speaker 1: didn't he do it when he first came in office? Okay,

935
00:51:30,280 --> 00:51:32,399
Speaker 1: eight years ago? I don't. I don't have to look

936
00:51:32,440 --> 00:51:34,359
Speaker 1: at this order you're talking. I don't know about this order.

937
00:51:34,400 --> 00:51:36,919
Speaker 1: I'm not sure what it does. So I apologize for that,

938
00:51:37,120 --> 00:51:40,000
Speaker 1: but I'll have to look at this one. Well, like

939
00:51:40,080 --> 00:51:43,600
Speaker 1: you say, so, now with General McMaster in there and

940
00:51:43,680 --> 00:51:46,560
Speaker 1: get these own people in there, they should bring all

941
00:51:46,600 --> 00:51:48,960
Speaker 1: that data back to n s A and let them

942
00:51:49,040 --> 00:51:52,319
Speaker 1: doll it out, and then they could say, okay, let's

943
00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:54,960
Speaker 1: take this piece of information and give it to these

944
00:51:55,000 --> 00:52:00,640
Speaker 1: two agencies. Okay on the headlines of or Times the

945
00:52:00,640 --> 00:52:04,480
Speaker 1: next day they know where the leak is coming from. Yeah,

946
00:52:04,520 --> 00:52:07,560
Speaker 1: there's a lot of people that have access to classified information,

947
00:52:08,160 --> 00:52:11,239
Speaker 1: j D. I think it might surprise you. Yeah, I

948
00:52:11,239 --> 00:52:14,880
Speaker 1: mean a lot, like not a lot is in a

949
00:52:15,040 --> 00:52:17,360
Speaker 1: large number, Like not a lot is in like you know,

950
00:52:17,840 --> 00:52:20,440
Speaker 1: fifteen people, like a big number of people have access

951
00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:25,279
Speaker 1: to highly classified information. So you know that's I don't

952
00:52:25,320 --> 00:52:27,360
Speaker 1: I don't mean if you're talking about the problem is

953
00:52:27,360 --> 00:52:30,439
Speaker 1: once you start limiting access, then you're stove piping, as

954
00:52:30,520 --> 00:52:32,440
Speaker 1: that's the terminology they use in the I C. And

955
00:52:32,560 --> 00:52:35,520
Speaker 1: if you stove pipe something that's actionable, especially when you're

956
00:52:35,520 --> 00:52:38,799
Speaker 1: talking about threat reporting, that's a big problem. So this

957
00:52:38,840 --> 00:52:41,200
Speaker 1: information is gonna get shared. You trust the people that

958
00:52:41,280 --> 00:52:44,040
Speaker 1: have these clearances that, especially when they have a clearance

959
00:52:44,080 --> 00:52:47,719
Speaker 1: top secret and then with with additions onto that t

960
00:52:47,960 --> 00:52:52,720
Speaker 1: S clearance, Uh, then you hope that they and legally

961
00:52:52,800 --> 00:52:55,440
Speaker 1: they're bound to not disclose that. And people are disclosing,

962
00:52:55,440 --> 00:52:57,360
Speaker 1: but J. D. Shields High out in California. Thank you

963
00:52:57,400 --> 00:53:00,279
Speaker 1: for calling in, all right, speaking of the bureaucracy and

964
00:53:00,680 --> 00:53:02,919
Speaker 1: all of the rest of what's going on with that,

965
00:53:03,880 --> 00:53:10,320
Speaker 1: you have, um, the Trump administration trying to build a case,

966
00:53:12,239 --> 00:53:16,560
Speaker 1: tries to build a case for why the countries that

967
00:53:16,640 --> 00:53:24,000
Speaker 1: they have specifically cited in this executive order are terrorism risks.

968
00:53:24,920 --> 00:53:28,560
Speaker 1: And I gotta say that this shouldn't be uh, this

969
00:53:28,640 --> 00:53:34,000
Speaker 1: shouldn't be controversial. Does anyone think that there's not You

970
00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:36,000
Speaker 1: don't even do just do a Google search, look in

971
00:53:36,080 --> 00:53:39,520
Speaker 1: the whatever newspaper you'd like to read, whatever website you

972
00:53:39,560 --> 00:53:42,760
Speaker 1: get your news from, except for that website that allows

973
00:53:42,800 --> 00:53:45,800
Speaker 1: you to pretend that Hillary Clinton one. That's a real website.

974
00:53:45,800 --> 00:53:48,160
Speaker 1: By the way, it's just a website with fake news,

975
00:53:48,320 --> 00:53:51,520
Speaker 1: actual fake news that everyone agrees is fake news, stories

976
00:53:51,520 --> 00:53:54,799
Speaker 1: about what it would be like if Hillary Clinton had

977
00:53:54,920 --> 00:53:59,200
Speaker 1: won the election. But White House effort to justify travel

978
00:53:59,280 --> 00:54:03,680
Speaker 1: band causes growing concern for some intelligence officials. This is

979
00:54:03,680 --> 00:54:07,200
Speaker 1: the story up on CNN, which of course is central

980
00:54:07,320 --> 00:54:10,680
Speaker 1: to the Trump opposition, and here's what it says. President

981
00:54:10,680 --> 00:54:13,320
Speaker 1: Donald Trump has a signed the Department of Homeland Security,

982
00:54:13,960 --> 00:54:16,720
Speaker 1: working with the Justice Department, to help build the legal

983
00:54:16,760 --> 00:54:20,960
Speaker 1: case for its temporary travel ban on individuals from seven countries,

984
00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:26,240
Speaker 1: a senior White House official tells CNN Okay. Other Trump

985
00:54:26,239 --> 00:54:29,200
Speaker 1: administration sources tell CNN that this is an assignment that

986
00:54:29,239 --> 00:54:34,439
Speaker 1: has caused concern among some administration intelligence officials, who see

987
00:54:34,480 --> 00:54:39,160
Speaker 1: the White House charge as the politicization of intelligence, the

988
00:54:39,200 --> 00:54:42,400
Speaker 1: notion of a conclusion in search of evidence to support

989
00:54:42,400 --> 00:54:45,279
Speaker 1: it after being blocked by the courts. First of all,

990
00:54:46,520 --> 00:54:51,799
Speaker 1: the court's decision about whether these countries are dangerous. The

991
00:54:51,840 --> 00:54:54,600
Speaker 1: fact that the court even weighed into the efficacy that

992
00:54:54,640 --> 00:54:58,719
Speaker 1: the Ninth Circuit three judge panel thought that it was

993
00:54:58,880 --> 00:55:01,440
Speaker 1: their call that we don't think that your national security

994
00:55:01,480 --> 00:55:04,320
Speaker 1: decision is in the national security interests of the United

995
00:55:04,320 --> 00:55:08,160
Speaker 1: States is from a legal perspective laughable. Though it's very

996
00:55:08,200 --> 00:55:13,799
Speaker 1: serious because they are overriding the president. And when you

997
00:55:14,040 --> 00:55:16,480
Speaker 1: look now at what they're trying to do with this

998
00:55:16,560 --> 00:55:19,280
Speaker 1: revised order, which is going to come out it's supposed

999
00:55:19,280 --> 00:55:20,839
Speaker 1: to come out this week, it will maybe come out

1000
00:55:21,600 --> 00:55:24,560
Speaker 1: in the next week or two. Is that it's going

1001
00:55:24,600 --> 00:55:27,560
Speaker 1: to make sure that it's very tightly worded as I

1002
00:55:27,640 --> 00:55:31,480
Speaker 1: understand it, and that it only goes after these seven

1003
00:55:31,520 --> 00:55:33,520
Speaker 1: countries because of the risk of terrorism. It's not a

1004
00:55:33,560 --> 00:55:37,120
Speaker 1: religious band. It's not it's not an anti Muslim band.

1005
00:55:37,200 --> 00:55:42,240
Speaker 1: That's all that rhetoric will hopefully be disproven and cast

1006
00:55:42,280 --> 00:55:49,080
Speaker 1: aside by this order. But you've got intelligence community professionals

1007
00:55:49,080 --> 00:55:53,960
Speaker 1: who are going to CNN and telling them that that

1008
00:55:54,080 --> 00:55:57,399
Speaker 1: this is unfair, that there's pressure on them to come

1009
00:55:57,400 --> 00:56:00,719
Speaker 1: to a certain conclusion. I would like to sit down

1010
00:56:00,760 --> 00:56:04,880
Speaker 1: with these intelligence officers as a former CIA officer myself,

1011
00:56:05,400 --> 00:56:08,600
Speaker 1: I'd like to sit down with them and say, Okay,

1012
00:56:08,640 --> 00:56:12,120
Speaker 1: so now you think it's hard to make the case

1013
00:56:12,239 --> 00:56:18,400
Speaker 1: for these countries as greater terrorism risks than other countries.

1014
00:56:19,200 --> 00:56:24,080
Speaker 1: And these are countries that the Obama administration singled out

1015
00:56:24,200 --> 00:56:26,960
Speaker 1: for increased scrutiny because of the terrorism risk. So that

1016
00:56:27,080 --> 00:56:30,239
Speaker 1: wasn't a problem for you. But now it's hard for

1017
00:56:30,280 --> 00:56:34,160
Speaker 1: you to come up with why Yemen, Iraq, Sirius, Sudan, Somalia,

1018
00:56:34,880 --> 00:56:39,080
Speaker 1: Why these are countries of Iran of greater terrorism risk?

1019
00:56:39,880 --> 00:56:43,399
Speaker 1: Are they serious? Is that? Really? They're having a hard

1020
00:56:43,480 --> 00:56:46,479
Speaker 1: time with that. Maybe they should just, you know, hire

1021
00:56:46,480 --> 00:56:49,880
Speaker 1: a couple of college interns who have access to Google

1022
00:56:50,239 --> 00:56:53,240
Speaker 1: and forget about the intelligence community on this one. Maybe

1023
00:56:53,239 --> 00:56:56,560
Speaker 1: that's what they're gonna do. This is just nonsense. All right,

1024
00:56:56,640 --> 00:57:01,440
Speaker 1: we'll be back in just a few buck is back.

1025
00:57:02,000 --> 00:57:05,560
Speaker 1: Everybody bucks back. It's more of America now, throwing your

1026
00:57:05,600 --> 00:57:09,959
Speaker 1: two cents one eight four four nine hundred buck. That's

1027
00:57:10,000 --> 00:57:16,480
Speaker 1: one eight four four to eight to five. What's up? Team?

1028
00:57:16,600 --> 00:57:19,760
Speaker 1: We're joined by our friend Emily Nati. She is the

1029
00:57:19,760 --> 00:57:23,160
Speaker 1: political editor at heat Street. She's e m z Nati

1030
00:57:23,200 --> 00:57:24,880
Speaker 1: on Twitter. Go to heat street dot com read her

1031
00:57:24,960 --> 00:57:28,280
Speaker 1: latest What's up, Emily? How are you doing? I'm doing

1032
00:57:28,280 --> 00:57:29,960
Speaker 1: pretty good? How are you? I'm all right? Are we

1033
00:57:30,040 --> 00:57:33,440
Speaker 1: taking you away from the riveting spack live stream to

1034
00:57:33,760 --> 00:57:36,280
Speaker 1: do this radio show? Or where your eyes glued to

1035
00:57:37,200 --> 00:57:40,280
Speaker 1: the every word of I don't know whichever conservative luminary

1036
00:57:40,400 --> 00:57:43,320
Speaker 1: was up their own stage. I am so disappointed right

1037
00:57:43,360 --> 00:57:45,320
Speaker 1: now that I am not watching a bunch of people

1038
00:57:45,440 --> 00:57:49,000
Speaker 1: mill around in a ballroom. The best part, the best

1039
00:57:49,000 --> 00:57:51,480
Speaker 1: part is watching the in between the speeches, which she's like,

1040
00:57:51,520 --> 00:57:53,600
Speaker 1: here we are. It's like Spack. I mean, it's like

1041
00:57:54,160 --> 00:57:56,960
Speaker 1: c Spam with more people. You know, it's where everyone

1042
00:57:57,000 --> 00:57:59,760
Speaker 1: like runs out to go to the bathroom and then

1043
00:58:01,320 --> 00:58:03,440
Speaker 1: you know, fun fun fact. I have only been to

1044
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Speaker 1: Sea Pack once, and it's when I was a private

1045
00:58:05,920 --> 00:58:10,480
Speaker 1: citizen CIA officer on my own time. So you know whatever,

1046
00:58:10,600 --> 00:58:12,840
Speaker 1: maybe maybe Langley was infiltrating Sea Pack a little bit.

1047
00:58:12,840 --> 00:58:14,920
Speaker 1: Don't worry about that, don't ask too many questions. But

1048
00:58:15,000 --> 00:58:16,560
Speaker 1: that's and I went with a bunch of my CEA,

1049
00:58:16,760 --> 00:58:18,840
Speaker 1: with a bunch of buddies of mine from from inside

1050
00:58:18,840 --> 00:58:23,800
Speaker 1: the community too. But I would say, um, worth pointing

1051
00:58:23,840 --> 00:58:27,240
Speaker 1: out now that Sea Pack seems to be going off

1052
00:58:27,280 --> 00:58:30,320
Speaker 1: without too much of of age. Yeah, but I've never

1053
00:58:30,360 --> 00:58:33,360
Speaker 1: been as as a media person, so there's that. I

1054
00:58:33,400 --> 00:58:35,320
Speaker 1: don't I don't know how that's happened. But I'm always busy.

1055
00:58:35,320 --> 00:58:38,160
Speaker 1: I've got radio shows to do. It's okay, there's way

1056
00:58:38,200 --> 00:58:41,440
Speaker 1: better WiFi if you're not there, I found. Oh, I

1057
00:58:41,800 --> 00:58:44,560
Speaker 1: I would agree, um And so anyway, maybe maybe one

1058
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Speaker 1: year maybe one year. I mean, we did have Matt

1059
00:58:46,440 --> 00:58:49,040
Speaker 1: Slap on radio yesterday and I didn't want to be

1060
00:58:49,040 --> 00:58:52,160
Speaker 1: that guy who's like, you know, what's up Matt? Um,

1061
00:58:52,200 --> 00:58:54,960
Speaker 1: So that whole like you know, Milo invite didn't work

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Speaker 1: out real well. But you know what would work out

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Speaker 1: is a little buck sext in love. I'm just putting

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Speaker 1: it out there, just putting it out to the universe.

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Speaker 1: Side note, neither here nor there, you know, So I'm

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Speaker 1: putting it out to you because that doesn't feel quite

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Speaker 1: as shameless as if I invited Matt on the show

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Speaker 1: and then I was like, why don't you guys you

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00:59:10,280 --> 00:59:13,720
Speaker 1: should get a Buck Sexton on stage with like flames

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Speaker 1: behind me, you know, like like I'm at a kiss

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Speaker 1: concert or something like the sparks flying out on stage.

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Speaker 1: Maybe I didn't even play like a guitar. Give me

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Speaker 1: like your guitar. I'll make it work. It could all happen.

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Speaker 1: We should start a Twitter campaign right now because the

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Speaker 1: keynote speech is tomorrow night. If you could get down there,

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Speaker 1: I think I think there's still time. You know. If

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Speaker 1: we start a hashtag Buck Takes Sea Pack, I think

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Speaker 1: I think it might get we might get some momentum.

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Speaker 1: I'm just putting that out there. We are, we are

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Speaker 1: a national show here, okay. Side note fun fun to

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Speaker 1: talk with us. So let's let's bring me up to speed. Emily,

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Speaker 1: if you would on the latest musings over at heat Street,

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Speaker 1: Ryant's previous and Steve benn and at Sea Pack. The

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Speaker 1: media is the opposition party. I got no problem with that.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I know we're technically in the media, but

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Speaker 1: we know they're not talking to us. No, I am

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Speaker 1: not Steve. While as far as I know, my face

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Speaker 1: is not plastered in the middle of the dart board

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Speaker 1: and Steve Bannon's office, I'm not sure, but I'm willing

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Speaker 1: to bet on that. But they did say today in

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Speaker 1: their joint panel ranged previous and Steve Bannon that the

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Speaker 1: Democrats have actually not been the opposition party here in

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Speaker 1: the first few weeks of the Trump administration. That it's

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Speaker 1: really been the media. That the media has been running

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Speaker 1: with stories that it can't verify, that it's constantly having

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Speaker 1: to backtrack within twenty four hours on things that they've

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Speaker 1: said about the administration. And that really Bannon was saying,

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Speaker 1: and I agree, is that the media is really disappointed

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Speaker 1: that Donald Trump won and so they're going to do

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Speaker 1: everything they possibly can to try to thank him here

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Speaker 1: in the first few months. Yeah, they've said now and

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Speaker 1: in the New York Times that they're declaring the Democrats,

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Speaker 1: in response to their constituents, are declaring all out war

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Speaker 1: on the Trump administration. I think we've already been there.

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Speaker 1: I think we've been at Leftist def Con one from

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Speaker 1: day one of this presidency. I'm not even sure we

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Speaker 1: made it today one of the presidency. I think we've

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Speaker 1: been at Duscan one since like November ten. It's been

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Speaker 1: like complete panic. I I almost had a bunch of uh,

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Speaker 1: potty mouth protesters trample me all my way into my

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Speaker 1: apartment here in New York City. I think it was

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Speaker 1: two days after the election, and they were screaming curses

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Speaker 1: and you know, not my president and all this other stuff. Uh,

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Speaker 1: And I just thought to myself, you know, guys, maybe

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Speaker 1: focus on some other things for just just like forty

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Speaker 1: eight hours. Just just give it a rest for forty Nope, Nope.

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Speaker 1: The the long, the long twilight struggle against Trump's burgeoning

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Speaker 1: fascism is something that must be waged constantly from the

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Speaker 1: safety of mom and Dad's basement when you're a grad

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Speaker 1: student that has nothing else to do with your time,

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Speaker 1: which is what I would guess a majority of the

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Speaker 1: people that I saw these protesting, they would fall into

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Speaker 1: that category. Oh wait, we've got some fun audio from

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Speaker 1: Benn in Uh, can we play that? Bennett's saying some

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Speaker 1: stuff out well, the Trump administration and the media play

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Speaker 1: it their corporatist globalist media that are adamantly opposed, adamantly

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Speaker 1: opposed to economic nationalist agenda like Donald Trump has. Here's

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Speaker 1: the only his wars gonna get worse because he's going

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Speaker 1: to continue to press his agenda and as economic conditions

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Speaker 1: get better, as more jobs get better, they're going to

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Speaker 1: continue to fight. If you think they're gonna give you

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Speaker 1: your country back without a fight, you are sadly mistaken. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: other than using the term economic nationalism or economic nationalist agenda,

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Speaker 1: I'm like, we want to stay away from the nationalist thing,

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Speaker 1: I think as a general rule. But I don't know,

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Speaker 1: maybe they're maybe they're trying to uh embrace the term

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Speaker 1: now in a way that it hasn't been able, you know,

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Speaker 1: to change the term like suffraget Yeah, like suffragettes was

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Speaker 1: a pejorative and then they're like, will be the suffragettes

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Speaker 1: and that's how they went with it. There are other

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Speaker 1: things that fall into that category to um. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: I I think the Bannons the whole media opposition thing.

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01:03:06,440 --> 01:03:08,960
Speaker 1: It's true, so why can't they say it. The media

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Speaker 1: is the opposition party, so why is it so offensive

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Speaker 1: to them? And it did sound to me a little

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01:03:14,120 --> 01:03:18,720
Speaker 1: like they feast off of the tears they love every

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01:03:18,760 --> 01:03:22,040
Speaker 1: time these horrible stories come out, or every time people

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Speaker 1: and pink committed hats hits the Washington Mall. They're just

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Speaker 1: eating it up. And I think it's interesting that he's saying,

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Speaker 1: enjoy it. This is crazy and it's going to get worse,

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Speaker 1: and you may as well enjoy the ride while you're

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Speaker 1: at it and keep fighting. I'm gonna hand this one

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Speaker 1: off to you because I don't want to be accused

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Speaker 1: of cis gender man splaining, although really I think what

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Speaker 1: I do in the Freedom HUD day in and day out,

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Speaker 1: could probably accurately be described as sis gender man splaining.

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Speaker 1: Now that I'm not even sure I know what cis

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Speaker 1: gender means. I think I know what it means, but

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Speaker 1: it's such a new term that I still wonder am

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Speaker 1: I using this properly? Cis gender is just what is this?

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Speaker 1: It's when you're it's male and female are two different things,

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Speaker 1: right right? If if you still identify as the gender

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Speaker 1: that you were born with, you are transgender or fluid gender.

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Speaker 1: You're giving the definition that is the definition that people

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Speaker 1: use my definition as men and men and women are

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Speaker 1: still a thing that are different and you can so. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but that's my version of the definition. But yes, so

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Speaker 1: I assist gender man explain. That's what I do here

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Speaker 1: in the in the Freedom Hut. And I wanted to

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Speaker 1: pass this one off to you then so that you

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Speaker 1: can just you can just go go all the naughty

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Speaker 1: on it. You've got Kelly and Conway at SPAX saying

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Speaker 1: that modern feminism is useless, feisty. I like it. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Actually I loved this speech that Kelly and Conway gave

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Speaker 1: this morning, and she basically said that the women who

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Speaker 1: are hitting the Women's March on Washington and who are

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Speaker 1: headlining this day without women, that's not real feminism. In fact,

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Speaker 1: that those women who are hitting those streets are actually

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Speaker 1: afraid of a conservative one and who manages to make

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Speaker 1: it into a position of power because it challenges their

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Speaker 1: idea that everyone has to be a victim. And she

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Speaker 1: was basically saying that feminism today is about constantly being

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Speaker 1: a victim. Someone else's oppressing you, someone else is making

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Speaker 1: you unequal, and really, for women, the point is to

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Speaker 1: not feel like a victim, is to be courageous in

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Speaker 1: the face of sexism and to fight for your own

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Speaker 1: equality and to go out and achieve and I mean

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Speaker 1: she certainly has. She's the first female campaign manager to

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Speaker 1: successfully uh push a presidential election into the White House,

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Speaker 1: so it's great coming from her. But yeah, she did

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Speaker 1: say that feminism as it is today is completely useless

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Speaker 1: and just wanted to get you to weigh in on

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Speaker 1: the Trump administration with drawing Obama's guidance for schools on

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Speaker 1: transgender bathroom usage. Whatever one may think of this. And

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Speaker 1: I had the the whole that had the situation that

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Speaker 1: last night of sitting here and saying something and a

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Speaker 1: friend of mine sending me a text during the show saying,

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Speaker 1: have you seen this? This is horrible? Like I'm sitting

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Speaker 1: here in full buck Man's plain mode and I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: get text message from a friend like did you see this?

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Speaker 1: Maybe you should address how terrible this is on your show.

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Speaker 1: And whatever one may think of transgender bathroom usage, a

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Speaker 1: couple of things I believe transcend ideology and just are

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Speaker 1: true here that one must keep in mind. For one,

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Speaker 1: Obama put this rule into effect in the second term

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Speaker 1: of his presidency, but a few years ago. So up

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Speaker 1: until then, I suppose everybody, including Democrats and the administration.

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Speaker 1: We're encouraging bullying and ostracizing these students and all the

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Speaker 1: stuff that's being said now because states will make the

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Speaker 1: determination instead of the federal government. Uh, that to me

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Speaker 1: just shows once again how intellectually unserious many of the

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Speaker 1: strongest proponents of the progressive agenda truly are right. And

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Speaker 1: it's not as if he's saying, or Donald Trump is saying,

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Speaker 1: you cannot make provisions to protect transgender students in your school.

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Speaker 1: He's just saying, it's not the federal government's responsibility to

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Speaker 1: tell individual public schools who are located miles away from

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Speaker 1: the federal government how to run their lives. So he's saying,

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Speaker 1: you know, if your state, and Andrew Cuomo went ahead

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Speaker 1: and did this, and the governor of Connecticut went ahead

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Speaker 1: and did this. So if your state wants to do this,

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Speaker 1: that's your prerogative, but I'm not going to force it

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Speaker 1: on you. And it certainly was a departure two from

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Speaker 1: Title nine. We use Title nine for gendered based discrimination

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Speaker 1: in schools, and they were going to use Title nine

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Speaker 1: to revoke money from public schools who didn't follow the

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Speaker 1: Obama administration's commands and that's really not fair. They don't

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Speaker 1: know how to do it. There's no way, there's no

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Speaker 1: rubric on how to implement the changes or even what

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Speaker 1: the changes were supposed to be. So these schools were

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Speaker 1: gonna lose funding without any due process at all. How

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Speaker 1: would one even enforce any aspect of Title nine? Considering

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Speaker 1: now gender is gender is not to be flippant, but

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Speaker 1: I guess to be flipping a state of mind right

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Speaker 1: and I certainly it's a spectrum now, so you can

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Speaker 1: be one of thirty seven genders. So it's kind of

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Speaker 1: difficult to enforce tital nine. Now. If somebody offered me

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Speaker 1: on the spot right now, uh, a million dollars will

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Speaker 1: just make it fun, which in New York City would

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Speaker 1: buy you like a three square foot apartment? Side note, Um,

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Speaker 1: but if somebody offered me a million dollars, Uh, that

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Speaker 1: was a little bit of an exaggeration for those of

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Speaker 1: you listening, but not that much. I wouldn't be able

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Speaker 1: to name more than three or four of the genders

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Speaker 1: I think that are offered up of the thirty seven

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Speaker 1: genders that Facebook and others now say exists. That's that's

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Speaker 1: where it is. I don't think I can do more

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Speaker 1: than three or maybe four. We have a little chart

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Speaker 1: in the wall on Heath Street that we got from

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Speaker 1: something called the Social Justice Wiki that actually lists all

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Speaker 1: thirty seven genders and their hierarchy. So some genders are

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Speaker 1: more oppressed than others. So we actually have a little

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Speaker 1: bit of a chart that gives us all of the

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Speaker 1: gender isn't where they follow the hierarchy of oppression. It's

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Speaker 1: pretty fascinating. Can you guys start making T shirts that

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Speaker 1: say part of the patriarchy and proud because I want one.

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01:09:08,760 --> 01:09:10,280
Speaker 1: I feel like that would be good. I want one

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Speaker 1: of them. I am I'm propping up the patriarchy or

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Speaker 1: night after night on the Bucks Accent Show. Alright. Emily

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01:09:17,600 --> 01:09:20,000
Speaker 1: is a naughty everybody political editor at heat Street. Her

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01:09:20,000 --> 01:09:21,760
Speaker 1: stuff is on heat street dot com. You should follow

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Speaker 1: her on Twitter. She's the best. Emily. Thank you for calling, team.

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Speaker 1: We will be back right after this break. Welcome back,

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Speaker 1: team Buck. Vice President Mike Pence is speaking right now

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Speaker 1: at Sea Pack. Let's go to the audio. This is

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Speaker 1: the first time I'm here as Vice President of the

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Speaker 1: United States of AMN because of all of you, because

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Speaker 1: of your hard work and your support and your prayers.

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Speaker 1: My family and I have the privilege to serve, and

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Speaker 1: more important, because of all of you, my friend Donald

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Speaker 1: Trump is the president. I'll be United States of America

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Speaker 1: five you you know, you know the President. I have

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Speaker 1: become good friends. It's the greatest privilege of my life

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Speaker 1: to be vice president to a leader of such conviction,

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Speaker 1: vision and courage. Now, some people have remarked that were

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Speaker 1: a little bit different. You know, I'm a small town guy.

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Speaker 1: He's big city. I'm Midwest. He's Manhattan Island. He's known

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Speaker 1: for his bigger than life personality, his charm and his charisma.

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Speaker 1: And I'm like, not play tense like this guy. You know,

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Speaker 1: as I said at the Republican Convention, I guess he

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Speaker 1: was just looking to balance the ticket. But all kidding aside.

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Speaker 1: When President Trump asked me to join him on the ticket,

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Speaker 1: I said yes in a heartbeat, because you have elected

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Speaker 1: a man for president who never quits, He never backs down.

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Speaker 1: He is a fighter, he is a winner, and I

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Speaker 1: promise you he will never stop fighting until we make

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Speaker 1: America great again. All Right, let's uh so, Mike Mike

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Speaker 1: penns THETT doing it an excellent job at SEPAC and

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Speaker 1: uh they've made some really inspired picks for an administration

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Speaker 1: or really for a president and an inner circle around

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Speaker 1: him during the campaign that was constantly criticized for being

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Speaker 1: political novices, not having good judgment, not having a a machine.

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Speaker 1: I remember hearing so much about how Trump didn't have

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Speaker 1: a ground game, so he can't win because there's no

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Speaker 1: ground game. And what you see is that pundits who

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Speaker 1: go on TV and just don't really want to read

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Speaker 1: too much or bring any new insights to the to

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Speaker 1: the situation one in doubt, just talk about how somebody

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Speaker 1: has a good ground game and or not based on

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Speaker 1: what you've heard other people saying about the ground game,

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Speaker 1: because who can really you know, who can really check

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Speaker 1: it on that. So Pence was a really strong pick

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Speaker 1: I think for the vice president vice president role, and

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Speaker 1: he's been doing a good job so far in that

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Speaker 1: and he's definitely a it seems like from the outside,

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Speaker 1: a steadying influence on this president and the team that

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Speaker 1: Trump has put together. Now you look at a lot

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Speaker 1: of his top people. I think Tylerson, by the way,

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Speaker 1: is going to be one of the surprises in the

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Speaker 1: sense that there was so much talk about how he

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Speaker 1: because he was this guy was the CEO of the

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Speaker 1: biggest company in the world. And Democrats were acting like

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Speaker 1: you know they they Republicans had picked some some drunk

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Speaker 1: vagrant out of a park somewhere and you know, clean

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Speaker 1: him up a little bit and said, hey, let's make

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Speaker 1: this guy's secretary of state. Oh yeah, he's he's in

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Speaker 1: Russia's pocket, he's he's close friends with Putin. The guy

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Speaker 1: has to do business, he has to do business in

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Speaker 1: foreign countries, running the biggest corporation in the world, and

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Speaker 1: and worked his way up and is very successful, both

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Speaker 1: in running xxon and of course personally successful. And I

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Speaker 1: gotta tell you, I know this doesn't get much attention

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Speaker 1: from other people out there that look at politics. But

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Speaker 1: the Clintons were so liable to all kinds of influence. Well,

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Speaker 1: of course they ran a global influence peddling scam with

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Speaker 1: the Clinton Foundation. But these people who come into public

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Speaker 1: office and become very wealthy while they're in office, or

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Speaker 1: are a little wealthy when they come in, and are

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Speaker 1: very wealthy by the time they're done. I find that troubling.

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Speaker 1: And if they're if they have a d NEX to

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Speaker 1: their name, nobody seems to want to look into that.

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Speaker 1: I'd rather have a secretary of State who knows that

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Speaker 1: he doesn't need this. He's been very successful. He can

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Speaker 1: retire and fly fish and hang out for the rest

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Speaker 1: of his life if he wants to. Uh, he's doing

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Speaker 1: this because he wants to serve his country, you know.

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Speaker 1: Think of motivations here. So much of what's been said

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Speaker 1: about Trump and some of his top advisors, Tillerson at

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Speaker 1: the top of the list, revolves around that they are

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Speaker 1: so rapaciously greedy that they would sell out their country.

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Speaker 1: They would sell out their country for a few bucks.

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Speaker 1: I I don't think so. The Clinton's yeah, yeah, they

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Speaker 1: sold that they were willing to sell out a lot

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Speaker 1: for a lot of bucks, and we saw that happening.

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Speaker 1: The media pretended that it wasn't so. I think Pence

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Speaker 1: is very doing a very good job of having a

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Speaker 1: steadying hand in this administration. And we'll see what they

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Speaker 1: unveil in the weeks ahead. I I'm expecting some strong

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Speaker 1: moves and if not, well, we'll have a lot of

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Speaker 1: fun here talking about how they're messing up. All Right, everybody,

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Speaker 1: our three is alread upon us. I've got a fantastic

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Speaker 1: guest coming up, Sexton with America now where there is

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Speaker 1: always something to talk about where you can trade opinions

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Speaker 1: with Buck. I'm not sure you'll win, though. Just call

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Speaker 1: eight four four nine hundred Buck. That's eight four four

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Speaker 1: two eight to five. All right, Buck, You're on so

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Speaker 1: a team. We talk a lot about politics and national security. Here,

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Speaker 1: we're talking about current offense and everything that's happening in

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Speaker 1: the news cycle. I like to mix it up though, too,

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Speaker 1: just spice some things into the show that I find interesting,

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Speaker 1: things that I just want to learn more about, and

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Speaker 1: I think that you will two things that I'm I'm

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Speaker 1: a novice, but I'm trying hard to pick up more

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Speaker 1: information as as I can through reading and just teaching

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Speaker 1: myself about these things. And I'm lucky in that I

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Speaker 1: can have world class experts come on this show to

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Speaker 1: tell all of you about them too. I find space interesting.

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Speaker 1: Producer Sarah over Here said it right before the break,

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Speaker 1: science is cool. I agree, science is cool, and space

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Speaker 1: is a very interesting part of science. We're joined now

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Speaker 1: by Sarah Seeger. She's an astrophysicist and planetary scientist at

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Speaker 1: m I t oh. Yeah. Her research focuses on theory, computation,

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Speaker 1: and data analysis. Of exo planets. She was one of

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Speaker 1: the heavy hitters that NASA brought to announce this major discovery.

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Speaker 1: And here's the discovery. Actually, Sarah, I'm gonna let you

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Speaker 1: tell everybody what was this huge discovery about a whole

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Speaker 1: bunch of exo planets. Hey, well, first, thanks for having

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Speaker 1: me on your show. Well, the discovery was the announcement

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Speaker 1: of seven, not just one, but seven planets the size

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Speaker 1: of Earth orbiting another star. That's pretty cool. Now there

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Speaker 1: it's far away, right, what is it? Two thirty five trillion?

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Speaker 1: Is that right? It's trillion trillion miles. It's quite a

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Speaker 1: ways from us. Yeah, so space is a big place

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Speaker 1: that I did know. So these these planets are super

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Speaker 1: far away, but we can see them with this, uh,

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Speaker 1: this telescope which is called Trappist. What's the Trappist? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: well Trappists. You know what Trappist is. Just it's like,

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Speaker 1: if you built your own telescope, you could name it

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Speaker 1: whatever you wanted, and the person who built the telescope

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Speaker 1: just named it Trappist for whatever reason. I mean, my

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Speaker 1: telescope I called e Xeust the Destructor or something. But

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Speaker 1: Trappist is cool too. So what does Trappists do. Well,

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Speaker 1: what Trappist does is it looks at a really special

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Speaker 1: kind of star, just one at a time, and we

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Speaker 1: call these. You're gonna like this ultra cool dwarf stars.

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Speaker 1: Because first people would name a cold star cool star,

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Speaker 1: and then they named a small star dwarf stars. You

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Speaker 1: had cool dwarf stars. But what are you gonna do

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Speaker 1: when you find an even colder, smaller star. They named

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Speaker 1: it ultra cool dwarf star. Wait, that's really what it's called,

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Speaker 1: ultra cool dwarf star. Best band name ever. We ran

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Speaker 1: out of almost ran out of adjectives. So they're looking

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Speaker 1: at these very small stars because it's easier to find

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Speaker 1: small planets around small stars. Yeah, okay, they are looking

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Speaker 1: at them, and one of the first ones they looked

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Speaker 1: at they just found, like this bonanza. It's like hitting

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Speaker 1: the jackpot. Seven planets. So we've never seen anything like

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Speaker 1: these are what is an exo planet? By the way,

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Speaker 1: that's one of the head let's that's in the headlines

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Speaker 1: about this discovery. An extra planet is what an extra

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Speaker 1: planet is a planet that orbits the star other than

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Speaker 1: our sun, because like we usually forget, but our sun

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Speaker 1: is actually just the star, and all those other stars

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Speaker 1: are out there are suns, and if our Sun has

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Speaker 1: planets like Mercury, Venus, Earth and Mars, etcetera, it really

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Speaker 1: makes sense that other stars should have planets also. But

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Speaker 1: in the last like ten or twenty years, we have

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Speaker 1: found the stronomers in general has found thousands and thousands

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Speaker 1: of planets around other stars, and we call those excel planets.

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Speaker 1: Got you now, these particular exo planets, there's a cluster

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Speaker 1: of seven of them in this Solar System, which is

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Speaker 1: outside of our Solar system, which is what it's an

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Speaker 1: exo planet very far away, forty forty light years from Earth,

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Speaker 1: which is quite a distance as I understand it. But

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Speaker 1: what can what do we know about these I'm sure

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Speaker 1: what people would want to immediately get into heres. Let's

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Speaker 1: just assume theoretically that I built a super fast space booster,

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Speaker 1: which I know, Sarah is not the technical terminology, but

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Speaker 1: I made something that could go room for room real

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Speaker 1: fast and get us to those planets. Do we know

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Speaker 1: if they're possibly habitable? Do we know if they have water? Oh? No,

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Speaker 1: we don't know, but we're going to be able to

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Speaker 1: find out. And that's partly why We're so excited about

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Speaker 1: these planets because all those other thousands we found they're

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Speaker 1: either not Earth size. They are they're not suitable for life,

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Speaker 1: and we can't study them at all. These ones are

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Speaker 1: just in the right configuration, so we can study them further.

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Speaker 1: What does that mean configuration? And why do we think

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Speaker 1: these may be more likely to have theoretically right, they

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Speaker 1: actually could already have life on I'm not I'm not

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Speaker 1: trying to get all. I'm not trying to get all.

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Speaker 1: They actually could and even more interesting, they could actually

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Speaker 1: have their own radio show and whatever frequency they are

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Speaker 1: tuned to, hopefully they're listening to the Buck Sexton Show.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I know it's kind of far. I don't

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Speaker 1: know if our signal travels, but we'll see. But I

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Speaker 1: agree with you, we don't know what's going on over there,

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Speaker 1: but we know that because of the as you say,

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Speaker 1: the configuration of these planets, they could be temperature wise

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Speaker 1: able to sustain life and there could be water. Is

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Speaker 1: that is that where we are? I mean, they're at

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Speaker 1: least in the in the ballpark of all that. And

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Speaker 1: what we're waiting for in particular is for a new

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Speaker 1: space telescope to launch because we've had the Hubble Space Telescope,

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Speaker 1: you know, for decades now, but we've been building, uh

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Speaker 1: that means our whole nation. Actually, we've been building Hubble's successor,

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Speaker 1: the next Hubble, and that telescope is much bigger, much

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Speaker 1: more powerful. It's called the James Webb Space Telescope, and

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Speaker 1: that telescope, even though we don't have the spaceship that

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Speaker 1: can go there, once our telescope is launched, we can

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Speaker 1: just look at it from far away. We can look

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Speaker 1: all that way from here and try to see what's

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Speaker 1: in the atmosphere and see if there's water on the

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Speaker 1: planet and maybe even see if there's some kind of life.

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Speaker 1: How far are we away from having this mega telescope

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Speaker 1: active and ready to go. We're about a year and

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Speaker 1: a half away. It launches in two thousand eighteen. Where's

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Speaker 1: it going to be two? It launches in the fall

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Speaker 1: of two thousand eighteen. But where, oh where the telescope

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Speaker 1: is going to launch? And it's most of our space

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Speaker 1: stuff we launch, like for defense and communication and for

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Speaker 1: science that in orbits Earth. But Earth is actually bright

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Speaker 1: and not suitable. So this telescope is going very far away.

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Speaker 1: It's going about a million miles away to a special

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Speaker 1: balance point between a special balance point between the Earth

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Speaker 1: and the Moon. So it is possible that then in

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Speaker 1: a year and a half, we would, with this greater

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Speaker 1: magnification telescope, be able to see these seven exoplanets with

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Speaker 1: enough clarity to have some sense as to whether they

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01:21:34,840 --> 01:21:38,400
Speaker 1: have water and therefore are capable of sustaining some life forms.

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01:21:39,280 --> 01:21:41,160
Speaker 1: That's right, But I don't want to mislead you. So

1481
01:21:41,280 --> 01:21:44,479
Speaker 1: it's not like a big glaring picture or a beautiful ocean.

1482
01:21:45,800 --> 01:21:47,759
Speaker 1: I'm not going to see like people on the beach

1483
01:21:47,840 --> 01:21:50,800
Speaker 1: hang it out, I get. Yeah, sure, Yeah, we're just

1484
01:21:50,880 --> 01:21:52,920
Speaker 1: gonna it's like a forensic crime scene. We've got to

1485
01:21:52,960 --> 01:21:54,920
Speaker 1: put pieces together of things we can see and try

1486
01:21:54,960 --> 01:21:57,280
Speaker 1: to figure out what's going on. But yes, are you

1487
01:21:57,439 --> 01:21:59,960
Speaker 1: involved at all and just out of curiosity? In research

1488
01:22:00,120 --> 01:22:03,560
Speaker 1: for underway? Some of the discussions and talks that I

1489
01:22:03,600 --> 01:22:06,120
Speaker 1: know also are private sectors taking a bigger hand in

1490
01:22:06,200 --> 01:22:10,479
Speaker 1: this of getting to two Mars and the habitability they're in.

1491
01:22:11,520 --> 01:22:14,320
Speaker 1: I don't work on it specifically, but it definitely overlaps

1492
01:22:14,400 --> 01:22:16,000
Speaker 1: with what I do. Yeah, how far away are we

1493
01:22:16,080 --> 01:22:18,280
Speaker 1: from being able to set up something like the like

1494
01:22:18,400 --> 01:22:20,760
Speaker 1: Matt Damon from the Martian where you're living there and

1495
01:22:21,320 --> 01:22:23,759
Speaker 1: you know it's a little bleak, you better bring enough food,

1496
01:22:23,880 --> 01:22:26,560
Speaker 1: but you can actually live in some capacity and a

1497
01:22:26,600 --> 01:22:29,519
Speaker 1: facility there. How far away is that? The thing is, like,

1498
01:22:29,640 --> 01:22:31,200
Speaker 1: it depends if you want to do it safely. So

1499
01:22:31,280 --> 01:22:34,160
Speaker 1: if you're really okay, like you're ready to be launched soon,

1500
01:22:34,240 --> 01:22:36,200
Speaker 1: actually we could do it really soon, in a few

1501
01:22:36,280 --> 01:22:38,720
Speaker 1: years or ten years. Yeah, this is like a big

1502
01:22:38,800 --> 01:22:40,439
Speaker 1: question about me on radio. It's like, are we ready

1503
01:22:40,479 --> 01:22:42,760
Speaker 1: to launch? This guy's tafey it's gonna it's gonna work out,

1504
01:22:42,840 --> 01:22:45,840
Speaker 1: And I'm like, no, let's just go for Yeah, let's

1505
01:22:45,960 --> 01:22:48,800
Speaker 1: let's just go for it. So if risk was not

1506
01:22:49,040 --> 01:22:51,240
Speaker 1: as much of a concern, how quickly could we get

1507
01:22:51,280 --> 01:22:54,320
Speaker 1: out there and how long could life How long could

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01:22:54,320 --> 01:22:57,920
Speaker 1: we sustain a mission on Mars. Well, if you think

1509
01:22:57,960 --> 01:22:59,760
Speaker 1: about it, we've sent lots and lots of things to

1510
01:23:00,080 --> 01:23:01,840
Speaker 1: or Is. There are rover Sun Mars, there's a row

1511
01:23:01,880 --> 01:23:04,600
Speaker 1: Fern Mars that has been working for ten years. So

1512
01:23:04,760 --> 01:23:06,719
Speaker 1: we have a lot of experience in getting to Mars

1513
01:23:06,800 --> 01:23:09,920
Speaker 1: and landing safely. So that part we have under control.

1514
01:23:10,479 --> 01:23:12,280
Speaker 1: But in terms of us, we're so fragile. I mean,

1515
01:23:12,320 --> 01:23:15,360
Speaker 1: we like to think we're so strong and successful, but

1516
01:23:15,520 --> 01:23:17,880
Speaker 1: that environment is horrible. Now I wake up in the

1517
01:23:17,960 --> 01:23:19,720
Speaker 1: morning in my back hurts, and I can never find

1518
01:23:19,760 --> 01:23:21,840
Speaker 1: I can never find my slippers. I think I'm quite

1519
01:23:21,920 --> 01:23:24,080
Speaker 1: fratgu and mars your back when hurt as much because

1520
01:23:24,240 --> 01:23:27,120
Speaker 1: the gravity is lower there we go. Yeah, see, but

1521
01:23:27,360 --> 01:23:29,080
Speaker 1: you'd have to bring everything with you to start with,

1522
01:23:29,200 --> 01:23:31,759
Speaker 1: and that's where it would be harder to think about surviving.

1523
01:23:32,200 --> 01:23:35,040
Speaker 1: And what are there any other interesting projects for for

1524
01:23:35,880 --> 01:23:39,360
Speaker 1: you know, the the average listener, average reader viewer out there,

1525
01:23:39,720 --> 01:23:42,040
Speaker 1: that are that are coming up on NASA's radar that

1526
01:23:42,080 --> 01:23:43,960
Speaker 1: are of interest or that you want to tell people about.

1527
01:23:45,080 --> 01:23:49,760
Speaker 1: Let me think, sure, take you're done. Um, I mean

1528
01:23:50,040 --> 01:23:51,840
Speaker 1: what else? What else are you working on in your

1529
01:23:51,960 --> 01:23:54,960
Speaker 1: role as an astrophysicist and planetary scientists at M I T. Which,

1530
01:23:55,000 --> 01:23:56,320
Speaker 1: by the way, you know, I used to be in

1531
01:23:56,360 --> 01:23:58,240
Speaker 1: the CIA and people thought that was cool to say

1532
01:23:58,240 --> 01:24:00,720
Speaker 1: at cocktail parties. Way cool were to say, I'm an

1533
01:24:00,760 --> 01:24:03,719
Speaker 1: astrophysicist from M I T. Side note, you guys actually

1534
01:24:03,800 --> 01:24:06,800
Speaker 1: know stuff. Yeah. Well, there's just so many things going

1535
01:24:06,840 --> 01:24:08,960
Speaker 1: on it's almost impossible to summarize them. But I will

1536
01:24:09,000 --> 01:24:11,160
Speaker 1: give you one example in our own solar system. Sure,

1537
01:24:11,479 --> 01:24:15,120
Speaker 1: and it's called actually Europa, which is a moon. It's

1538
01:24:15,120 --> 01:24:17,600
Speaker 1: actually a moon of Jupiter. But what's special about that

1539
01:24:17,720 --> 01:24:20,639
Speaker 1: moon is we're confident that it has a liquid water ocean,

1540
01:24:20,800 --> 01:24:24,400
Speaker 1: but not floating on the surface, but underneath a layer

1541
01:24:24,479 --> 01:24:28,920
Speaker 1: of ice. It's all life is. We know its needs water.

1542
01:24:29,520 --> 01:24:31,960
Speaker 1: We think where there's water, there's always some chance for life.

1543
01:24:32,360 --> 01:24:34,799
Speaker 1: In addition to Mars being like one of our favorite

1544
01:24:34,800 --> 01:24:37,479
Speaker 1: planets in the search for life, there's Europa and we're

1545
01:24:37,479 --> 01:24:40,240
Speaker 1: trying to figure out how to send a spacecraft air

1546
01:24:40,360 --> 01:24:43,360
Speaker 1: that could orbit it and even land on it. Oh wow,

1547
01:24:43,760 --> 01:24:45,479
Speaker 1: how far away is this one? I mean obviously not

1548
01:24:45,520 --> 01:24:47,519
Speaker 1: trillions of light years, because we can get there are

1549
01:24:47,600 --> 01:24:50,160
Speaker 1: trillions of miles rather not light years go ahead one

1550
01:24:50,160 --> 01:24:54,040
Speaker 1: of Jupiter's moons, So it's about five times further from

1551
01:24:54,080 --> 01:24:56,120
Speaker 1: the Sun than Earth is, if that helps. We always

1552
01:24:56,120 --> 01:24:59,519
Speaker 1: think of things in relative terms, not usually absolute numbers.

1553
01:24:59,560 --> 01:25:01,720
Speaker 1: But to get of Jupiter takes a few years. Thanks,

1554
01:25:01,720 --> 01:25:03,360
Speaker 1: a few years, but we could get there. Okay. We're

1555
01:25:03,400 --> 01:25:05,520
Speaker 1: not like in the news media where you know everything's

1556
01:25:05,520 --> 01:25:07,840
Speaker 1: like tomorrow and then you move on to the next story.

1557
01:25:07,920 --> 01:25:11,520
Speaker 1: It takes so long to build these really complicated spacecraft

1558
01:25:11,600 --> 01:25:13,840
Speaker 1: that we think in terms of years, right. I mean,

1559
01:25:13,960 --> 01:25:15,920
Speaker 1: you want to make sure you've downloaded enough Game of

1560
01:25:16,000 --> 01:25:18,240
Speaker 1: Thrones episodes and you've got, you know, some some good

1561
01:25:18,280 --> 01:25:20,200
Speaker 1: books on the shelf because it's gonna be a long journey.

1562
01:25:20,439 --> 01:25:23,120
Speaker 1: But we could get there. And are we sending any

1563
01:25:23,400 --> 01:25:28,040
Speaker 1: Mars Rover type exploratory vehicles to see what you mentioned?

1564
01:25:28,120 --> 01:25:31,599
Speaker 1: This possibility of ice and water beneath it, is that happening? Um,

1565
01:25:31,720 --> 01:25:33,320
Speaker 1: I'm not sure if it's going to happen this time.

1566
01:25:33,400 --> 01:25:35,759
Speaker 1: People really want to be able to drill down. Imagine

1567
01:25:35,840 --> 01:25:38,679
Speaker 1: drilling down into the ice and getting to the ocean.

1568
01:25:39,040 --> 01:25:43,360
Speaker 1: But we're just not sure how sick that ice slayer

1569
01:25:43,479 --> 01:25:45,280
Speaker 1: really is, but people are working on it. You can

1570
01:25:45,320 --> 01:25:48,679
Speaker 1: go to laboratories where people have like these really tall

1571
01:25:48,800 --> 01:25:51,360
Speaker 1: chambers where they're putting large blocks of ice and figuring

1572
01:25:51,400 --> 01:25:53,400
Speaker 1: out how to melt and drill down into them. This

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01:25:53,560 --> 01:25:56,559
Speaker 1: is so cool. Sarah Seeger, thank you so much for joining.

1574
01:25:56,640 --> 01:25:59,439
Speaker 1: Sarah is an astrophysicist and planetary scientists at m I T.

1575
01:25:59,800 --> 01:26:02,080
Speaker 1: SO are anywhere you want to direct people to check

1576
01:26:02,120 --> 01:26:05,080
Speaker 1: out your research or projects you're working on. Sure, they

1577
01:26:05,120 --> 01:26:07,280
Speaker 1: can just google my name, Sarah Seeger and they'll come

1578
01:26:07,360 --> 01:26:10,639
Speaker 1: up with stuff. Um, if they google NASA exo planets,

1579
01:26:10,680 --> 01:26:13,040
Speaker 1: they'll find even more. All right, awesome, I learned a

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01:26:13,040 --> 01:26:14,600
Speaker 1: lot today, Sarah. Thank you so much for calling in.

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01:26:15,520 --> 01:26:18,920
Speaker 1: Thank you, good night, good night, and team Buck. We're

1582
01:26:18,920 --> 01:26:21,120
Speaker 1: gonna take it back in from space and bring it here,

1583
01:26:21,200 --> 01:26:24,000
Speaker 1: bring it home. We'll be right back. Welcome back, Team Buck.

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01:26:24,520 --> 01:26:27,000
Speaker 1: I am looking at this and I have to say

1585
01:26:27,240 --> 01:26:32,160
Speaker 1: that it troubles me. And I also recognize that I'm

1586
01:26:32,200 --> 01:26:35,240
Speaker 1: gonna have to I'm gonna have to say that I

1587
01:26:35,680 --> 01:26:41,559
Speaker 1: recognize a um, what's the word. I recognize that there's

1588
01:26:41,600 --> 01:26:45,400
Speaker 1: a problem with the way I approached this versus other things.

1589
01:26:45,640 --> 01:26:49,599
Speaker 1: A little bit here, let me explain that was very vague,

1590
01:26:49,640 --> 01:26:52,799
Speaker 1: I know, but we're transitioning from talking about seven exo planets.

1591
01:26:52,880 --> 01:26:54,920
Speaker 1: That's right. Tomorrow, when you're walking to the office or

1592
01:26:55,040 --> 01:26:57,680
Speaker 1: taking the kids to school wherever you are, let's be like, hey,

1593
01:26:58,160 --> 01:27:00,000
Speaker 1: do you hear about the seven exo planets two hundred

1594
01:27:00,120 --> 01:27:03,840
Speaker 1: thirty five trillion miles away? Oh? You didn't. You don't

1595
01:27:03,840 --> 01:27:07,400
Speaker 1: listen to the Buck Sexton Show. And then you can

1596
01:27:07,439 --> 01:27:09,799
Speaker 1: send them the podcast, which is available for free on iTunes.

1597
01:27:10,439 --> 01:27:16,600
Speaker 1: So Trump administration is hinting at a crackdown on recreational pot. Now,

1598
01:27:16,720 --> 01:27:19,280
Speaker 1: let me just say I would be very honest with

1599
01:27:19,320 --> 01:27:23,240
Speaker 1: you if I were somebody who dabbled in the marijuana,

1600
01:27:23,560 --> 01:27:25,160
Speaker 1: I would let you know that because I think that

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01:27:25,280 --> 01:27:27,479
Speaker 1: that's only fair. Especially I'm gonna have a position on

1602
01:27:27,520 --> 01:27:29,800
Speaker 1: a policy like that. And if you want legalization, I

1603
01:27:29,800 --> 01:27:32,120
Speaker 1: don't think you should pretend I don't. I don't. I

1604
01:27:32,160 --> 01:27:35,679
Speaker 1: don't smoke weed, um, I and I have not in well.

1605
01:27:36,439 --> 01:27:39,360
Speaker 1: I stopped after September eleven, so I can join the CIA.

1606
01:27:39,439 --> 01:27:41,280
Speaker 1: So it's been a long long time. And I was

1607
01:27:41,360 --> 01:27:45,679
Speaker 1: never somebody who particularly enjoyed enjoyed smoking weed. I'll be honest.

1608
01:27:45,680 --> 01:27:48,320
Speaker 1: I never really liked it. Um, I was found it

1609
01:27:48,400 --> 01:27:54,519
Speaker 1: to be well. I tend towards the the anxious and

1610
01:27:54,680 --> 01:27:56,800
Speaker 1: the overthinking in general, so I have to I have

1611
01:27:56,880 --> 01:27:59,240
Speaker 1: to force myself to mellow out. And so I would

1612
01:27:59,240 --> 01:28:02,439
Speaker 1: figure that always talking about marijuana can make you more mellow.

1613
01:28:02,800 --> 01:28:04,800
Speaker 1: For me, it always just made me more nervous anyway. On.

1614
01:28:04,960 --> 01:28:06,720
Speaker 1: So I just I'm not a weed smoker, but I

1615
01:28:06,840 --> 01:28:11,479
Speaker 1: am in favor of decriminalizing marijuana, and it's and I'm

1616
01:28:11,479 --> 01:28:13,800
Speaker 1: not in favor of decriminalizing all drugs. I think that

1617
01:28:13,960 --> 01:28:18,600
Speaker 1: that is sloppy because drug First of all, as we know,

1618
01:28:18,680 --> 01:28:24,000
Speaker 1: alcohol is in reasonable doses is fine. And I do drink,

1619
01:28:24,120 --> 01:28:25,840
Speaker 1: and I enjoy a glass of wine here and there.

1620
01:28:25,840 --> 01:28:28,560
Speaker 1: I like tequila. I like a good Scotch um. But

1621
01:28:29,080 --> 01:28:30,840
Speaker 1: I try to stay away from the from the mixed

1622
01:28:30,880 --> 01:28:36,360
Speaker 1: strengths side note. But you know, generally speaking, um, I'm okay.

1623
01:28:36,439 --> 01:28:39,040
Speaker 1: I I drink, and I think that marijuana should be

1624
01:28:39,520 --> 01:28:43,439
Speaker 1: decriminalized and regulated. I'm in favor of This is where

1625
01:28:43,520 --> 01:28:45,800
Speaker 1: me and the Libertarians all have a come together moment

1626
01:28:46,040 --> 01:28:48,599
Speaker 1: and we you know, I just want to all hang out.

1627
01:28:49,320 --> 01:28:51,920
Speaker 1: Put on the cat Stevens. Let the cat purr and uh,

1628
01:28:52,080 --> 01:28:54,160
Speaker 1: and they could smoke some weed if they want. I'm

1629
01:28:54,200 --> 01:28:56,160
Speaker 1: just they're saying, I don't think you should be arrested

1630
01:28:56,240 --> 01:28:57,680
Speaker 1: for this, and a lot of people, a lot of

1631
01:28:57,720 --> 01:29:01,639
Speaker 1: good conservative disagree with me. But the argument, for example,

1632
01:29:01,720 --> 01:29:04,400
Speaker 1: that marijuana is a gateway drug, I've read a lot

1633
01:29:04,479 --> 01:29:07,639
Speaker 1: about it, and there's just that's just a theory. There's

1634
01:29:07,680 --> 01:29:10,680
Speaker 1: really not much evidence that I've ever seen. And if

1635
01:29:10,720 --> 01:29:13,640
Speaker 1: I'm wrong, please bring in my attention, that's a gateway drug. Um.

1636
01:29:13,760 --> 01:29:15,479
Speaker 1: And I do think that people certainly can smoke too

1637
01:29:15,560 --> 01:29:17,880
Speaker 1: much weed and it's bad for them from a health perspective,

1638
01:29:17,960 --> 01:29:20,320
Speaker 1: and also it's bad for their productivity. But that's true

1639
01:29:20,360 --> 01:29:22,880
Speaker 1: of a lot of things, so a lot of things

1640
01:29:22,960 --> 01:29:27,839
Speaker 1: that are currently controlled and regulated but legal in certain context.

1641
01:29:27,920 --> 01:29:30,000
Speaker 1: I certainly don't think that people should have their lives,

1642
01:29:30,080 --> 01:29:34,120
Speaker 1: their careers ruined, and their freedom taken away for the

1643
01:29:34,200 --> 01:29:37,160
Speaker 1: recreational use of marijuana. And I have to break with

1644
01:29:37,240 --> 01:29:40,800
Speaker 1: the Trump administration on this one because they're saying or

1645
01:29:40,880 --> 01:29:43,400
Speaker 1: they're they're they're hinting. To be fair, they're only hinting

1646
01:29:43,400 --> 01:29:44,720
Speaker 1: at and they've hinted at a lot of things that

1647
01:29:44,720 --> 01:29:46,840
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have a problem with. By the way, trillion

1648
01:29:46,880 --> 01:29:50,679
Speaker 1: dollar infrastructure spending, uh, you know, go tariffs on trade,

1649
01:29:50,720 --> 01:29:52,000
Speaker 1: and you go down the list. There are a bunch

1650
01:29:52,040 --> 01:29:54,840
Speaker 1: of things that Trump is talking about where I'm not

1651
01:29:54,880 --> 01:29:56,840
Speaker 1: gonna be able to, in good faith and in good

1652
01:29:56,920 --> 01:29:59,920
Speaker 1: conscience show up here and be like, yeah, it's great lot,

1653
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:01,639
Speaker 1: which I lot what Trump's doing on that thing that's

1654
01:30:01,640 --> 01:30:04,160
Speaker 1: totally not conservative and that's bad for the economy. And

1655
01:30:04,760 --> 01:30:07,720
Speaker 1: no or or if all of a sudden, he's like, hey,

1656
01:30:07,800 --> 01:30:09,439
Speaker 1: you know, let's just like, let's just give all of

1657
01:30:09,479 --> 01:30:11,960
Speaker 1: our sensitive nuclear technology to Russia. That sounds like a

1658
01:30:12,040 --> 01:30:13,760
Speaker 1: great idea. No, I would have I mean, obviously he

1659
01:30:13,800 --> 01:30:16,080
Speaker 1: won't do that, but I would have a problem. I'd

1660
01:30:16,080 --> 01:30:18,920
Speaker 1: have a problem with something like that, and a big problem.

1661
01:30:19,240 --> 01:30:21,080
Speaker 1: That's obviously a crazy example, you know what I'm saying.

1662
01:30:22,000 --> 01:30:25,519
Speaker 1: So with the weed, here's the thing. I think that

1663
01:30:25,600 --> 01:30:29,640
Speaker 1: it should be decriminalized. Colorado and Washington State, which have

1664
01:30:30,080 --> 01:30:35,280
Speaker 1: decriminalized it, are doing fine, and in fact, they have

1665
01:30:35,479 --> 01:30:38,599
Speaker 1: discovered that this is a lucrative source of state revenue.

1666
01:30:39,280 --> 01:30:43,360
Speaker 1: And just as they have managed to get away with

1667
01:30:43,560 --> 01:30:47,280
Speaker 1: the lottery, which is gambling for lower income people for

1668
01:30:47,360 --> 01:30:50,000
Speaker 1: the most part, just gambling for lower income people. That's

1669
01:30:50,000 --> 01:30:52,439
Speaker 1: all lottery is. But they use that money, I think,

1670
01:30:52,479 --> 01:30:53,800
Speaker 1: at least in New York, I think they use it

1671
01:30:53,880 --> 01:30:55,760
Speaker 1: for schools. So it's all, well, we're using the money

1672
01:30:55,800 --> 01:30:58,840
Speaker 1: for schools, you know, for teachers unions, But they use

1673
01:30:58,880 --> 01:31:04,280
Speaker 1: it for schools too. Out in Colorado and Washington they

1674
01:31:04,320 --> 01:31:08,880
Speaker 1: are also using the money that's tax of marijuana for schools.

1675
01:31:09,000 --> 01:31:11,000
Speaker 1: And so that's the way of getting around. Are you

1676
01:31:11,080 --> 01:31:14,439
Speaker 1: allowing people to engage in behavior that is destructive and

1677
01:31:14,479 --> 01:31:16,160
Speaker 1: that is bad for the rest of the economy and

1678
01:31:16,880 --> 01:31:20,559
Speaker 1: causes problems in any number of in any number of ways. Uh.

1679
01:31:21,200 --> 01:31:22,960
Speaker 1: But here's the here's what I have to be very

1680
01:31:23,040 --> 01:31:24,720
Speaker 1: honest with you all about. And if you have any

1681
01:31:24,760 --> 01:31:26,599
Speaker 1: thoughts on this, by the way, on on the Trump

1682
01:31:26,600 --> 01:31:29,559
Speaker 1: administration cracking down, I think it'll be on those states.

1683
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Speaker 1: It might be a broader crackdown in general on marijuana,

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01:31:32,520 --> 01:31:35,200
Speaker 1: which is a federal It is a federal crime. Right now.

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01:31:35,800 --> 01:31:39,439
Speaker 1: It still is a Schedule one, a Schedule one drug

1686
01:31:39,680 --> 01:31:43,280
Speaker 1: from the Narcotics Act of I forget. I think it's

1687
01:31:43,320 --> 01:31:45,880
Speaker 1: the seventies. I forget when exactly it was passed. But

1688
01:31:45,960 --> 01:31:49,760
Speaker 1: they created these schedules of drugs, and marijuana's Schedule one

1689
01:31:49,840 --> 01:31:53,960
Speaker 1: up there with cocaine and heroin, and those are much

1690
01:31:54,040 --> 01:31:56,040
Speaker 1: more dangerous drugs. And that's why I don't I don't

1691
01:31:56,040 --> 01:31:58,240
Speaker 1: like people say, well, are you for legalization of everything? No,

1692
01:31:58,400 --> 01:32:02,560
Speaker 1: of course, not for legalization of everything. Absolutism is is

1693
01:32:02,680 --> 01:32:06,760
Speaker 1: rarely good policy. Even on the Second Amendment, I do

1694
01:32:06,960 --> 01:32:11,320
Speaker 1: think that taking the Scalia definition of or the the

1695
01:32:11,400 --> 01:32:15,280
Speaker 1: Scalia approach, the Second Amendment yes, even at the in

1696
01:32:15,360 --> 01:32:18,360
Speaker 1: the time of the founding and when they were signing

1697
01:32:18,600 --> 01:32:20,560
Speaker 1: and writing the Bill of Rights and then signing the

1698
01:32:21,040 --> 01:32:24,479
Speaker 1: of course signing the Constitution Um. Even when that happened,

1699
01:32:24,880 --> 01:32:27,000
Speaker 1: there were some understanding that, you know, maybe having a

1700
01:32:27,080 --> 01:32:30,640
Speaker 1: cannon foundry in your backyard and having exploding mortars that

1701
01:32:30,920 --> 01:32:33,439
Speaker 1: you could, you know, have a siege of of a

1702
01:32:33,479 --> 01:32:35,400
Speaker 1: government facility with that, that might have been a problem.

1703
01:32:35,479 --> 01:32:37,080
Speaker 1: I don't think everybody shoul people to walk around with

1704
01:32:37,120 --> 01:32:39,439
Speaker 1: stinger missiles, I do think, but I think an our

1705
01:32:39,520 --> 01:32:41,320
Speaker 1: fifteen is in common usage, and I think that the

1706
01:32:41,560 --> 01:32:47,839
Speaker 1: government's current crackdown on that is uh is disingenuous, constitutionally unsound,

1707
01:32:47,920 --> 01:32:50,479
Speaker 1: and it's wrong. Semi on Act rifle. You know what, guys,

1708
01:32:50,600 --> 01:32:52,880
Speaker 1: I'm running into two different figus here that I want

1709
01:32:52,880 --> 01:32:54,679
Speaker 1: to talk to you about both of them. So let's

1710
01:32:54,720 --> 01:32:58,719
Speaker 1: talk about weed and let's talk about Maryland's gun band

1711
01:32:58,840 --> 01:33:02,519
Speaker 1: ban on so called the salt rifles coming up here

1712
01:33:02,560 --> 01:33:04,439
Speaker 1: in the next segment. And I'm sure a few of

1713
01:33:04,439 --> 01:33:06,800
Speaker 1: you probably have some thoughts on both that. So we're

1714
01:33:06,840 --> 01:33:09,160
Speaker 1: gonna we're gonna stack the back of the show here.

1715
01:33:09,520 --> 01:33:12,880
Speaker 1: We got weed legalization and guns isn't the Freedom hud

1716
01:33:12,880 --> 01:33:14,960
Speaker 1: a great place? Everybody, We have so much fun. We're

1717
01:33:14,960 --> 01:33:16,560
Speaker 1: gonna talk about both of those things in just a

1718
01:33:16,600 --> 01:33:18,400
Speaker 1: few minutes. If you want to call in eight four

1719
01:33:18,520 --> 01:33:22,560
Speaker 1: four to eight to five, we will be back in

1720
01:33:22,600 --> 01:33:28,160
Speaker 1: the Freedom Hut momentarily. The things that matter most in

1721
01:33:28,240 --> 01:33:31,120
Speaker 1: your day to day life are too important to trust

1722
01:33:31,200 --> 01:33:34,000
Speaker 1: to just anyone. That's that's why, that's why he's here.

1723
01:33:35,200 --> 01:33:42,080
Speaker 1: Blug Sexton with America Now, Sharp Mind, Strong Voice Blog Sexton. Oh,

1724
01:33:42,200 --> 01:33:45,840
Speaker 1: we're talking weed and guns in the third hour of

1725
01:33:45,920 --> 01:33:52,080
Speaker 1: the show today, more specifically weed legalization and gun bands

1726
01:33:52,360 --> 01:33:55,120
Speaker 1: or a crackdown on weed legalization and gun ban's. Now,

1727
01:33:55,360 --> 01:33:58,559
Speaker 1: it's not technically right to say it's legalization. Let's start

1728
01:33:58,640 --> 01:34:02,559
Speaker 1: with the with the weed, uh, and then we'll get

1729
01:34:02,960 --> 01:34:04,719
Speaker 1: Let's start with the weed, then we'll get to the guns.

1730
01:34:05,200 --> 01:34:07,640
Speaker 1: That's sounds like I'm you know, it sounds like a

1731
01:34:07,680 --> 01:34:10,200
Speaker 1: different kind of show. But anyway, it's sounding a different

1732
01:34:10,240 --> 01:34:12,559
Speaker 1: kind of discussion. But let's let's start with with marijuana.

1733
01:34:12,720 --> 01:34:14,960
Speaker 1: So I could talk to you at length. And I

1734
01:34:15,000 --> 01:34:17,760
Speaker 1: feel like a lot of my fellow conservatives get they

1735
01:34:17,800 --> 01:34:20,120
Speaker 1: just they don't care enough about weed. They don't really

1736
01:34:20,200 --> 01:34:23,559
Speaker 1: want to. You know, Libertarians are always you know, uh,

1737
01:34:23,680 --> 01:34:25,960
Speaker 1: in favor of this, and I agree with them on it,

1738
01:34:26,040 --> 01:34:28,040
Speaker 1: but I also realized that it can be it can

1739
01:34:28,080 --> 01:34:30,800
Speaker 1: be annoying to be, well, what about marijuana legalizations? Not

1740
01:34:31,080 --> 01:34:32,920
Speaker 1: the most pressing issue in the world. And by the way,

1741
01:34:32,920 --> 01:34:35,240
Speaker 1: if you've got if you've got thoughts on weed or guns,

1742
01:34:36,160 --> 01:34:37,639
Speaker 1: I've bet a lot of you do eight four four

1743
01:34:38,640 --> 01:34:42,920
Speaker 1: to eight to five. So on the weed thing, you've

1744
01:34:42,960 --> 01:34:45,320
Speaker 1: got the Trump administration saying they make crackdown. Here's the

1745
01:34:45,439 --> 01:34:49,600
Speaker 1: here's the issue. The Obama administration did something that was

1746
01:34:50,960 --> 01:34:55,080
Speaker 1: essentially lawless. They said they would not enforce federal laws. Uh.

1747
01:34:55,160 --> 01:34:57,720
Speaker 1: The Controlled Substances Act of nineteen seventy, that's what I

1748
01:34:57,800 --> 01:35:00,920
Speaker 1: was referencing before. C uh cs A of nineteen seventy

1749
01:35:00,960 --> 01:35:04,519
Speaker 1: puts weed as a Category one prohibited substance. It is

1750
01:35:04,640 --> 01:35:08,639
Speaker 1: illegal to possess, sell, grow all that under federal law.

1751
01:35:09,200 --> 01:35:12,960
Speaker 1: But I was just speaking to producers Sarah about this before. Uh.

1752
01:35:13,280 --> 01:35:15,960
Speaker 1: They have states where they have a lottery system and

1753
01:35:16,240 --> 01:35:18,040
Speaker 1: you can set up a shop and you can sell

1754
01:35:18,120 --> 01:35:21,080
Speaker 1: this stuff. And of course there's medical marijuana and California

1755
01:35:21,200 --> 01:35:23,880
Speaker 1: and I have friends who are like oh my toe hurts.

1756
01:35:23,920 --> 01:35:25,760
Speaker 1: I need some medical marijuana. We all know how that

1757
01:35:25,880 --> 01:35:30,200
Speaker 1: game is played. So there's been this experiment with a

1758
01:35:31,680 --> 01:35:35,760
Speaker 1: like a policy that is a live and let live

1759
01:35:35,840 --> 01:35:38,760
Speaker 1: with marijuana in some states, but it's also illegal under

1760
01:35:38,760 --> 01:35:41,479
Speaker 1: federal law. That's not the way this should be done.

1761
01:35:41,760 --> 01:35:45,599
Speaker 1: And I can't I can in good faith say to you, well,

1762
01:35:45,920 --> 01:35:48,720
Speaker 1: immigration law should be enforced because the law is the law,

1763
01:35:49,479 --> 01:35:54,439
Speaker 1: and marijuana laws should not be enforced because they don't count. Um,

1764
01:35:55,080 --> 01:35:57,720
Speaker 1: this should be Congress should take action on this, and

1765
01:35:57,800 --> 01:36:00,679
Speaker 1: the American people should. They should listen to American people

1766
01:36:00,800 --> 01:36:05,040
Speaker 1: on this, and they should either move marijuana off of

1767
01:36:05,479 --> 01:36:09,439
Speaker 1: Schedule one of the Controlled Substances Act of nineteen seventy

1768
01:36:11,240 --> 01:36:13,400
Speaker 1: or that they should do something. This is a problem

1769
01:36:13,560 --> 01:36:16,560
Speaker 1: of consistency. I I can't say to you that the

1770
01:36:16,640 --> 01:36:19,680
Speaker 1: law is the law and it must be enforced. You know,

1771
01:36:19,800 --> 01:36:21,479
Speaker 1: that doesn't mean that the law has to always be

1772
01:36:21,560 --> 01:36:25,080
Speaker 1: enforced in every instance. Right, there is prosecutorial discretion, but

1773
01:36:25,200 --> 01:36:29,400
Speaker 1: prosecutorial discretion is not nobody who violates this law will

1774
01:36:29,439 --> 01:36:33,200
Speaker 1: get prosecuted. That's nullification of the law. That is, that

1775
01:36:33,400 --> 01:36:36,320
Speaker 1: is a form of lawlessness, and that's certainly what we've

1776
01:36:36,400 --> 01:36:39,240
Speaker 1: had in large part of immigration, and I am against

1777
01:36:39,360 --> 01:36:42,000
Speaker 1: that and as much as I am and from a

1778
01:36:42,120 --> 01:36:46,840
Speaker 1: policy perspective in favor of marijuana legalization, I do not

1779
01:36:47,160 --> 01:36:50,240
Speaker 1: like this situation of it is clearly still legal under

1780
01:36:50,280 --> 01:36:53,519
Speaker 1: federal law. And in a sense, by the way, this

1781
01:36:53,640 --> 01:36:56,519
Speaker 1: is all a monster created by progressives in this country

1782
01:36:56,600 --> 01:37:00,960
Speaker 1: because it was progressive under the progressives on the Supreme

1783
01:37:01,000 --> 01:37:05,280
Speaker 1: Court with the Wicker v. Filburn decision that made interstate

1784
01:37:05,360 --> 01:37:08,960
Speaker 1: commerce the catch off for anything the left wants to

1785
01:37:09,040 --> 01:37:14,040
Speaker 1: regulate and and and control and tax and destroy, they

1786
01:37:14,120 --> 01:37:16,840
Speaker 1: will say it has some effect on interstate commerce. And

1787
01:37:16,920 --> 01:37:19,000
Speaker 1: in Wicker v. Filburn, it was he was growing wheat

1788
01:37:19,640 --> 01:37:22,240
Speaker 1: and he was going to not even sell it across

1789
01:37:22,240 --> 01:37:24,800
Speaker 1: state lines, but sell it in his own state. And

1790
01:37:24,880 --> 01:37:27,360
Speaker 1: they said, well, that will affect the market in other

1791
01:37:27,479 --> 01:37:30,479
Speaker 1: states because of interstate commerce. Therefore we can regulate it.

1792
01:37:30,640 --> 01:37:33,680
Speaker 1: And now with Obamacare, and I know we're moving fast here,

1793
01:37:33,760 --> 01:37:35,799
Speaker 1: but wet end guns, we don't have that much time everybody.

1794
01:37:36,280 --> 01:37:41,320
Speaker 1: With Obamacare, they can regulate inactivity. Which was why people

1795
01:37:41,400 --> 01:37:44,599
Speaker 1: who were what who are constitution watchers and concerned about

1796
01:37:44,680 --> 01:37:48,000
Speaker 1: liberty and the erosion thereof we're saying now they can

1797
01:37:48,040 --> 01:37:50,559
Speaker 1: tell you you can't even not do something. Never mind,

1798
01:37:50,760 --> 01:37:52,320
Speaker 1: if you do this, we're gonna tell you how you

1799
01:37:52,400 --> 01:37:54,680
Speaker 1: can do it. But now you can't say I'm not

1800
01:37:54,760 --> 01:37:58,160
Speaker 1: going to do something regulating inactivity, which was the the

1801
01:37:58,280 --> 01:38:02,240
Speaker 1: travesty of the Obamacare to say five four, thanks Justice Roberts.

1802
01:38:03,960 --> 01:38:06,599
Speaker 1: So the Congress needs to act because if the Trump

1803
01:38:06,600 --> 01:38:10,320
Speaker 1: administration starts locking people up after state authorities have been

1804
01:38:10,400 --> 01:38:14,400
Speaker 1: taxing this, well, what it was tens of millions of

1805
01:38:14,479 --> 01:38:20,080
Speaker 1: dollars in the state coffers taxing the legalized marijuana and

1806
01:38:20,120 --> 01:38:23,320
Speaker 1: its rememor it's not really legalized. It's just turning a

1807
01:38:23,360 --> 01:38:28,000
Speaker 1: blind eye to marijuana industry. And I do not think, um,

1808
01:38:29,400 --> 01:38:32,400
Speaker 1: I do not think that it's this is putting us

1809
01:38:32,439 --> 01:38:35,200
Speaker 1: in a good place. Congress should act on this, and

1810
01:38:35,439 --> 01:38:38,200
Speaker 1: they should either move it. You know, it's if if

1811
01:38:38,240 --> 01:38:41,560
Speaker 1: they move marijuana off of the Controlled Substances Act and

1812
01:38:41,680 --> 01:38:44,560
Speaker 1: leave it to the states. They just did this with guidance,

1813
01:38:44,640 --> 01:38:46,960
Speaker 1: not a law. I understand, it's different. It's not really

1814
01:38:47,000 --> 01:38:50,080
Speaker 1: binding what the Obama administration did on transgender bathroom musage.

1815
01:38:50,840 --> 01:38:52,920
Speaker 1: But they could say that states will make their own

1816
01:38:52,920 --> 01:38:57,679
Speaker 1: determinations about marijuana and We'll take it all. But Congress

1817
01:38:57,760 --> 01:38:59,519
Speaker 1: is gonna have to a man up on this one

1818
01:38:59,640 --> 01:39:01,800
Speaker 1: and and take action and not just sit on the

1819
01:39:01,880 --> 01:39:09,200
Speaker 1: sidelines and avoid politically difficult moves and conversations. So now

1820
01:39:09,400 --> 01:39:11,960
Speaker 1: that's my and I just want to do established that.

1821
01:39:12,120 --> 01:39:16,120
Speaker 1: I'm trying to avoid inconsistency. It's not right for me

1822
01:39:16,200 --> 01:39:17,840
Speaker 1: to say on one thing, well, the law is the

1823
01:39:17,920 --> 01:39:19,840
Speaker 1: law and it should be enforced as the law, or

1824
01:39:19,920 --> 01:39:21,800
Speaker 1: Congress should change it, and then on another because I

1825
01:39:21,920 --> 01:39:24,120
Speaker 1: like the policy outcome. Because see, I'm not a progressive.

1826
01:39:24,920 --> 01:39:26,840
Speaker 1: I'm not a Democrat, I'm not a leftist. I don't

1827
01:39:26,920 --> 01:39:29,639
Speaker 1: just the ends, don't justify the means. And as much

1828
01:39:29,680 --> 01:39:31,960
Speaker 1: as I feel like nobody should get locked up because

1829
01:39:31,960 --> 01:39:34,720
Speaker 1: they want to smoke a joint, I also think that

1830
01:39:35,240 --> 01:39:42,280
Speaker 1: a a quasi legal status is bad for everybody in

1831
01:39:42,360 --> 01:39:44,679
Speaker 1: the long run because what happens now to these legal

1832
01:39:44,880 --> 01:39:47,200
Speaker 1: these legal shops if the Feds, if the Feds go

1833
01:39:47,280 --> 01:39:51,880
Speaker 1: in there, uh, mandatory minimums for possession. Would you know

1834
01:39:52,080 --> 01:39:54,920
Speaker 1: this could be a nightmare really fast, and they and

1835
01:39:55,040 --> 01:39:57,600
Speaker 1: what you know, then you're gonna have what maybe jury nullification.

1836
01:39:58,120 --> 01:40:00,160
Speaker 1: If I'm on a jury and some guy says the

1837
01:40:00,240 --> 01:40:03,639
Speaker 1: state of Colorado. Let me set up this weed store.

1838
01:40:03,720 --> 01:40:05,759
Speaker 1: They've been taxing it. They know it's there. The police

1839
01:40:05,760 --> 01:40:07,960
Speaker 1: haven't bothered me in the federal government said it was okay.

1840
01:40:08,960 --> 01:40:10,479
Speaker 1: And now they want to lock me up for this.

1841
01:40:11,560 --> 01:40:14,599
Speaker 1: If I'm on that jury, do I convict? It's tough.

1842
01:40:15,640 --> 01:40:19,120
Speaker 1: It's tough, not an easy call, all right. Um, I

1843
01:40:19,240 --> 01:40:21,120
Speaker 1: got a whole bunch of calls up here. I had

1844
01:40:21,120 --> 01:40:23,799
Speaker 1: a feeling weed and guns gets gets every gets everybody

1845
01:40:23,880 --> 01:40:29,400
Speaker 1: fired up. Mario in Massachusetts on w h y N,

1846
01:40:29,880 --> 01:40:34,880
Speaker 1: Welcome to the Freedom Help my friend. Hello, as I

1847
01:40:34,960 --> 01:40:37,360
Speaker 1: can thank you so much? Can you subscribe to the

1848
01:40:37,400 --> 01:40:41,400
Speaker 1: podcast on iTunes? Will you? Okay? I will thank you.

1849
01:40:43,320 --> 01:40:48,439
Speaker 1: You know, about three weeks ago, I said, not three

1850
01:40:48,439 --> 01:40:52,080
Speaker 1: weeks ago, about a week ago, I said, okay, trusted

1851
01:40:52,120 --> 01:40:55,599
Speaker 1: an office now for about three weeks and I thought

1852
01:40:55,640 --> 01:40:57,800
Speaker 1: to myself and I and I mentioned to my brother,

1853
01:40:57,880 --> 01:41:02,360
Speaker 1: I said, Uh, the re action from the establishment, that's

1854
01:41:02,439 --> 01:41:08,920
Speaker 1: Democrat and Republican establishment has been so violent, so extreme.

1855
01:41:10,160 --> 01:41:13,320
Speaker 1: Uh the uh that I said, how's it going to

1856
01:41:13,400 --> 01:41:16,920
Speaker 1: be in three months, in four months, how's it going

1857
01:41:16,960 --> 01:41:21,400
Speaker 1: to be in a year? Where is this going? And? Uh,

1858
01:41:22,240 --> 01:41:26,640
Speaker 1: this doesn't seem like a like like a normal reaction,

1859
01:41:26,720 --> 01:41:29,240
Speaker 1: and I my my view is that we might be

1860
01:41:29,320 --> 01:41:32,680
Speaker 1: looking at something like a rebellion, you know, something like

1861
01:41:33,200 --> 01:41:37,160
Speaker 1: you know, some of something, something violent, because I can't imagine,

1862
01:41:37,280 --> 01:41:40,639
Speaker 1: I can't imagine that it's gonna stop. I mean, these

1863
01:41:40,760 --> 01:41:45,240
Speaker 1: people are are looking at the possibility of this administration

1864
01:41:45,760 --> 01:41:49,959
Speaker 1: turning over the US federal government back to the American

1865
01:41:50,080 --> 01:41:54,320
Speaker 1: people under the Constitution, and they've fought against this for generations.

1866
01:41:54,880 --> 01:41:56,559
Speaker 1: I don't think they're going to allow it to happen.

1867
01:41:57,320 --> 01:42:00,679
Speaker 1: This is and I think I'm I'm I'm gonna address

1868
01:42:00,680 --> 01:42:02,439
Speaker 1: your question as best like him or it's a it's

1869
01:42:02,479 --> 01:42:06,240
Speaker 1: a very it's a provocative and and astute question. Um.

1870
01:42:06,479 --> 01:42:11,080
Speaker 1: I think that there is a recognition among the elites

1871
01:42:11,479 --> 01:42:15,680
Speaker 1: in this country, and the elites who are on the

1872
01:42:15,800 --> 01:42:18,439
Speaker 1: left predominantly, but not entirely. There are elites on the

1873
01:42:18,560 --> 01:42:21,560
Speaker 1: right also who are worried about this. To the corporatists

1874
01:42:21,600 --> 01:42:23,960
Speaker 1: and the cronius there are others too, But there's a

1875
01:42:24,000 --> 01:42:28,960
Speaker 1: recognition of the elites that the Trump administration's ethos, approach,

1876
01:42:29,160 --> 01:42:33,640
Speaker 1: ideology and promises to the American people are an existential

1877
01:42:33,800 --> 01:42:38,519
Speaker 1: threat to their position to their sense of self, to

1878
01:42:38,800 --> 01:42:42,960
Speaker 1: their elevated stature in society, to their any You know,

1879
01:42:43,120 --> 01:42:46,960
Speaker 1: I'm speaking abroad generalities here because I have to, But

1880
01:42:47,320 --> 01:42:49,639
Speaker 1: we could drill down to the specifics with the press.

1881
01:42:49,920 --> 01:42:52,920
Speaker 1: You know what, what why Why is CNN better than

1882
01:42:53,760 --> 01:42:55,360
Speaker 1: in the eyes of people. I'm not saying it is.

1883
01:42:55,479 --> 01:42:57,439
Speaker 1: Why is CNN better than Washington Free Beacon? I love

1884
01:42:57,479 --> 01:42:59,439
Speaker 1: the freebe pep. But I'm just saying, oh, because one

1885
01:42:59,560 --> 01:43:01,960
Speaker 1: is bigger and more well known and is considered to be,

1886
01:43:02,200 --> 01:43:04,679
Speaker 1: uh the gold standard of journalism. Well, if that goes

1887
01:43:04,720 --> 01:43:07,120
Speaker 1: away because people think that CNN is fake news, guess what,

1888
01:43:07,280 --> 01:43:09,400
Speaker 1: It's not better? Right. So there you can point to

1889
01:43:09,479 --> 01:43:13,600
Speaker 1: specifics here, but what they'll do and whether it's bureaucrats

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Speaker 1: in the government who feel like government is the solution

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Speaker 1: to all problems, or any number of other people that

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01:43:20,160 --> 01:43:24,320
Speaker 1: view this administration, uh, not just negatively, but but view

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01:43:24,400 --> 01:43:28,720
Speaker 1: it with hatred and ferocity. They think that it's a

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Speaker 1: threat to who they are and their way of life.

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Speaker 1: And so what they're willing to do, I don't know. Uh.

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Speaker 1: So far, we're seeing people that are violating federal law

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Speaker 1: by the leaks against the Trump administration. We're seeing people

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Speaker 1: within the bureaucracy who are speaking out in ways that

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01:43:45,520 --> 01:43:48,920
Speaker 1: are completely inappropriate. You're you have all these groups threatening

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Speaker 1: to just tie the administration up everywhere in lawsuits, and

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01:43:51,960 --> 01:43:56,400
Speaker 1: they raising money for this. Uh, this is go ahead.

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Speaker 1: You know. You know what besides all of that, totally

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Speaker 1: agree with you. They're they're they're moving large groups of people, uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, in angry, destructive ways. The the the the

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Speaker 1: black community, the you know, my last name's Garcia. They're moving,

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Speaker 1: the Spanish sinning community, you know, the Uh they're moving.

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Speaker 1: They're moving other subgroups, you know, homosexual community and so

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01:44:29,160 --> 01:44:33,320
Speaker 1: forth and song and eventually these people are going to

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01:44:33,560 --> 01:44:38,479
Speaker 1: totally make common cause get together. And somehow I see

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Speaker 1: this as, as you know, a prelude to something much

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Speaker 1: much bigger and much more violence. I don't know. I

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Speaker 1: don't I I gotta I don't see that. I'll be

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Speaker 1: honest with you, I don't see that. I don't think

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Speaker 1: that this is gonna go I don't think this is

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Speaker 1: going to go to that level. But I do think

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Speaker 1: of of any sort of armed uprising or anything like that,

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Speaker 1: and obviously that would be a terrible idea, um, but

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Speaker 1: I will a that Uh, this is going to it's

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01:45:03,960 --> 01:45:05,519
Speaker 1: going to get really ugly. I mean, they want him

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Speaker 1: out of office, and nothing short of that will When

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Speaker 1: I say they, I just mean the left. Nothing short

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Speaker 1: of that will stop them. But unfortunately, Marrow, I got

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Speaker 1: to run into a break here. But thank you for

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Speaker 1: calling in on w H Y N in Massachusetts and team,

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01:45:17,360 --> 01:45:20,280
Speaker 1: We'll be right back, buck Sexton with America now talking

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Speaker 1: about weed and guns everybody, and that means the board

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Speaker 1: is lit up like crazy, which I knew it would be,

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Speaker 1: so thank you for that. I may not be able

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Speaker 1: to really deep dive into the gun part of our

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Speaker 1: conversation until tomorrow. Boo. I know, I know, I just

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Speaker 1: I went long. I went long on the on the

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Speaker 1: weed talk, um, but I wanted to take a couple

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Speaker 1: of these calls and then I'll set up at least

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01:45:42,160 --> 01:45:45,519
Speaker 1: our gun conversation for tomorrow will be freestyle Friday, which

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Speaker 1: means we can get into whatever. But Chris in Pennsylvania

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Speaker 1: on w A E B, welcome to the hop, my friend.

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Speaker 1: How you doing, ma'am, I'm good. Thanks for calling. Hey.

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Speaker 1: So I'm with you on a weed saying, um, I

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01:46:01,320 --> 01:46:03,600
Speaker 1: think that it should go back. Uh, you know, it

1940
01:46:03,600 --> 01:46:06,719
Speaker 1: should it should be it shouldn't be a Schedule one drug.

1941
01:46:06,880 --> 01:46:09,360
Speaker 1: It should be the same thing as alcohol and back

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Speaker 1: are should be regulated kind of in that same category.

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Speaker 1: And I would say even that the federal government shouldn't

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Speaker 1: be involved in all. It should be a states right issues.

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Speaker 1: So I'll just shut up and listen to your response. No, No,

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Speaker 1: I I agree with every I'm trying to think if

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Speaker 1: I just say, I'm looking for a way to disagree

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Speaker 1: with you, like Chris, No, I would agree with everything

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Speaker 1: you just said. I can make the case for why

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Speaker 1: weed is not more dangerous than alcohol. I think that's

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01:46:35,720 --> 01:46:38,400
Speaker 1: there's plenty of Uh, there's plenty of research, plenty of

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Speaker 1: studies that that support that point of view. I know

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Speaker 1: people who do both, and who smoke weed and marijuana

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Speaker 1: and do both of those things, you know, simultaneously. Uh.

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Speaker 1: So I have to say, I think that this is

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01:46:50,520 --> 01:46:54,160
Speaker 1: a place where Congress should take action. And um, I

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01:46:54,680 --> 01:46:58,519
Speaker 1: hope the Trump administration doesn't doesn't go after people on

1958
01:46:58,640 --> 01:47:00,479
Speaker 1: this one because I'd have to disage agree with them.

1959
01:47:00,640 --> 01:47:02,640
Speaker 1: I know what the law says, But on this one,

1960
01:47:02,680 --> 01:47:05,320
Speaker 1: you've got states and the federal government telling you, oh no,

1961
01:47:05,439 --> 01:47:08,120
Speaker 1: it's okay, right. It's one thing when a sanctuary city

1962
01:47:08,200 --> 01:47:10,400
Speaker 1: says no, no, we're going to ignore the federal government.

1963
01:47:10,439 --> 01:47:13,320
Speaker 1: The federal government's like, no, don't ignore us. In this case,

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Speaker 1: you'd have both the federal government and the state government saying, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't worry about it, go for it, and then

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01:47:17,200 --> 01:47:19,720
Speaker 1: we're gonna lock people up. I I just that's not right.

1967
01:47:19,840 --> 01:47:22,360
Speaker 1: That's not good. So Congress should act and it should

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Speaker 1: be left up to the states. If Alabama doesn't want weed,

1969
01:47:25,160 --> 01:47:28,160
Speaker 1: but Oregon does, and come on, we all know Oregon does,

1970
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Speaker 1: then that's how it's gonna go down. No, And I

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Speaker 1: agree with you on the on the consistency issue too.

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01:47:34,320 --> 01:47:35,840
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, we want to do it the

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01:47:35,960 --> 01:47:40,479
Speaker 1: right way, so legalized, don't criminalize. Absolutely, man, I'm with you.

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Speaker 1: Chris from Pennsylvania, thank you very much for calling in. Uh.

1975
01:47:44,600 --> 01:47:47,519
Speaker 1: Nick in Kentucky also wants to talk about weed. What's up, Nick,

1976
01:47:49,240 --> 01:47:52,840
Speaker 1: Hey bug chilly chill TI. I thank you, sir. I

1977
01:47:52,960 --> 01:47:58,080
Speaker 1: just wanted to say from Kentucky. And obviously weeds and guns,

1978
01:47:58,640 --> 01:48:01,080
Speaker 1: those are right up there at the top of our list.

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Speaker 1: Cannabis sativa used to be the number one cash crop.

1980
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Speaker 1: Before I can before the federal government shut us down.

1981
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Speaker 1: I thought, oh, I'm drinking some right now, sir, on

1982
01:48:14,760 --> 01:48:22,240
Speaker 1: that right now, Basil, Basil Hayden's I'm getting the whole,

1983
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Speaker 1: the whole freedom of cruise, giving you thumbs up on that,

1984
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Speaker 1: by the way, Yeah, yeah, Well, I was gonna say,

1985
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Speaker 1: cannabis sativa used to be our number one cash crop

1986
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Speaker 1: before the federal government made it illegal. And that was

1987
01:48:34,160 --> 01:48:37,679
Speaker 1: not just marijuana, but that was also hemp. Um. Hemp

1988
01:48:37,880 --> 01:48:40,439
Speaker 1: is making a comeback now obviously, but it's really just

1989
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Speaker 1: a male or female plant, and and and really I

1990
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Speaker 1: just have a problem with this overall from the Trump perspective,

1991
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Speaker 1: and this is one of the things that concerned me.

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Speaker 1: I've never been a huge supporter, but you know, I

1993
01:48:50,880 --> 01:48:54,919
Speaker 1: do like what he's doing. Um, going after the states,

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Speaker 1: and uh no one thinks like you mentioned earlier notification,

1995
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Speaker 1: it's not it's not a federal thing. It's literally the

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Speaker 1: states go, you know what, We're not gonna We're not

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Speaker 1: gonna do that. I'm sorry, We're done. We don't care.

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Speaker 1: We you you make. It's basically saying, if you if

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Speaker 1: you've got a problem with this, come and get us.

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Speaker 1: And that's not a good. That's not a good policy.

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Speaker 1: Well but but you know, we're talking about something where

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Speaker 1: the federal government is is basically making this overarching governmental

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Speaker 1: body to enforce their own law, whereas the state, the

2004
01:49:27,439 --> 01:49:31,360
Speaker 1: states are in charge of of you know, the law. Right.

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Speaker 1: But that's why I gave you the background on the

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Speaker 1: interstate commerce clause and Wickered v. Philburn, which was the

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01:49:36,280 --> 01:49:40,320
Speaker 1: beginning of the federal the you know, the federal beasts,

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01:49:40,520 --> 01:49:44,320
Speaker 1: tentacles and uh and many arms stretching out all across

2009
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Speaker 1: the country on every issue. I mean, the reason you

2010
01:49:46,960 --> 01:49:51,400
Speaker 1: have a federal law about domestic violence against women, which

2011
01:49:51,479 --> 01:49:53,559
Speaker 1: is illegal in all fifty states. But the reason they

2012
01:49:53,600 --> 01:49:55,360
Speaker 1: think they can pass a federal law, and that Joe

2013
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Speaker 1: Biden was all involved in the passage of this, the

2014
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Speaker 1: Violence Against Women Act, was that they tied it to

2015
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Speaker 1: interstate commerce. Well, everyone's opposed to violence against women, but

2016
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Speaker 1: that has nothing to do with interstate commerce, and they're

2017
01:50:07,200 --> 01:50:09,000
Speaker 1: already laws at the state level. That was that was

2018
01:50:09,080 --> 01:50:12,200
Speaker 1: just political show voting from Biden. Other Democrats have nothing

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Speaker 1: to do with anything. And uh, you know, over over federalizing,

2020
01:50:17,080 --> 01:50:21,599
Speaker 1: especially criminal law, comes with a cost. So that's why, yeah, look,

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Speaker 1: I wish the interstate commerce clause wasn't just used for

2022
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Speaker 1: weed regulation. I wish it was used only for interstate commerce. Yeah. No,

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Speaker 1: I don't disagree with that at all. However, you know,

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Speaker 1: and and progresses off from one to side the interstate

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Speaker 1: commerce cause and the Supreme Court's rulings on that overall,

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Speaker 1: But really what trumps what in this situation If the

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Speaker 1: states make the law and the federal government says, hey,

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Speaker 1: this is the law, and the state says we're not

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Speaker 1: going to enforce that regardless of what it is, say

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Speaker 1: it's spent. If the state says we're not gonna do that,

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Speaker 1: or Okay, we gotta we gotta run your Yeah, we'll

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Speaker 1: take away your funny with don Okay, it's a ten

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Speaker 1: dollar fine. The states still ultimately have the courts that

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Speaker 1: decide whether or not these things are long. All right, Nick,

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Speaker 1: thank you for calling in. Uh, I promise you guys.

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01:51:09,520 --> 01:51:11,600
Speaker 1: We talked guns, and I wasn't I wasn't supposed to

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Speaker 1: be a switcher, a switcher rou I was pulling there. Um,

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Speaker 1: I didn't get two guns. But uh, let's get to

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Speaker 1: it tomorrow. You have the Fourth Circuit upholding Maryland's assault

2040
01:51:23,520 --> 01:51:27,280
Speaker 1: weapons band. This is flagrantly unconstitutional. It is based on nonsense.

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Speaker 1: It is in violation of what Heller set forth for

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Speaker 1: the Second Amendment. We will talk about it tomorrow night.

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Speaker 1: Please download tonight's podcast on I heart or on iTunes.

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Speaker 1: You can subscribe until tomorrow. My friends, Shields High