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Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to Season twenty six, Episode one,

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Speaker 1: Yeah for April nine, two thousand eight teen. My name

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Speaker 1: is Jack O'Brien, a K. Jack o Brian can show

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Speaker 1: you the world shining, shimmering, splendid. I'm just gonna do

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Speaker 1: the whole song. Excuse me for a moment, don't you.

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Speaker 1: That's curtsy of AK got Chapman rice. Every time I

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Speaker 1: sing uh. Super producer Annajosnier puts her head in her hands,

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Speaker 1: like physically uh, and tears start pouring out from between

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Speaker 1: her fingers. Right, And I'm thrilled to be joined as

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Speaker 1: always buy my co host Mr Miles Gray, Miles on it,

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Speaker 1: got that zight gang at pipe back, I got bis

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Speaker 1: on it doing the dailys eight guys with Jack. Oh,

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Speaker 1: that's a Looney's reference, And you're right, Gray Black at

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Speaker 1: Black of all Grays I have. I love your tutter handle,

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Speaker 1: but yet that's a needs references. That's how we get down.

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Speaker 1: And I just charged up off another cold roof because

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Speaker 1: the fancy ma Hey, we're thrilled to be joined by

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Speaker 1: the hilarious and brilliant Lacy Mostly. Hey, guys, I don't

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Speaker 1: have an AK today, don't you don't need one. I

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Speaker 1: want one so bad because I can't come through with

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Speaker 1: a lameo. Yeah damn today jounced call me lazy early,

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Speaker 1: but the people don't need to know you're lazy most

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Speaker 1: to me, Yeah, there we go, a lazy, settled done.

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Speaker 1: What are some things from your search history that are

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Speaker 1: revealing about who you are? So my Starches three lately

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Speaker 1: has been very random. Mostly I've been sarching for ship

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Speaker 1: to like have petty arguments online, Like I looked at

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Speaker 1: the Dow Jones, but I wasn't actually looking to see

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Speaker 1: like the Dow that day. I just wanted to make

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Speaker 1: sure I was about to use it correctly in a

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Speaker 1: reference that it wasn't a rapper. Yeah, because I was

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Speaker 1: about to play somebody who was talking about Cardi B

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Speaker 1: like being a bad representation for black women or something,

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Speaker 1: and I was like, look, if people wanted to buy

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Speaker 1: dick as much as they wanted to buy a pussy,

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Speaker 1: dick will beyond Dow Jones. And I just need to

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Speaker 1: make sure that that was for clack it was, And

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Speaker 1: did that person after you hit him with I saw

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Speaker 1: some of that over the weekend, people being like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: Cardi B is like not the intellectual equivalent of her fiance,

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Speaker 1: and it was like, what, she's like one of the

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Speaker 1: smartest people in the public eye, and like, how do

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Speaker 1: you think you get that rich? You don't get rich

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Speaker 1: like that from being stupid. So they're saying that she's

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Speaker 1: too advanced for offset. No, he's too advanced for her,

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Speaker 1: was the implication, which No, I couldn't even process that

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Speaker 1: as being something someone would say. I mean, look, I

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Speaker 1: saw somebody clapping back at somebody for saying that. So

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Speaker 1: I don't know. Look, you know what, let them find love.

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Speaker 1: They're young, they'll realize what they've done soon enough. Lord

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Speaker 1: Jesus God, bless that baby Lacy. What is something that

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Speaker 1: is underrated? Underrated? Dream Doll another lovely ratchet rapper that

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Speaker 1: I'm like now obsessed with. Have you heard the song

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Speaker 1: talk to Me Nice, talk to Me? Oh? That's oh,

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Speaker 1: I just know that has talked to me nine. I

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Speaker 1: can't think of any right now, Like I can't think

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Speaker 1: the names. But she's got some fire little banger like

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Speaker 1: it's just like ratchet bops. I'm so happy for all

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Speaker 1: the little ratchet bop rappers were coming up, especially women,

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Speaker 1: because women in the hip hop industry have had, Like

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Speaker 1: if they meet too hip hop, we wouldn't be listen

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Speaker 1: to nothing like Damn mc light. Seriously, that's it. We'd

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Speaker 1: all be listening to Queen Latifa repeat. I mean who

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Speaker 1: knows and that it could touch everybody. Yeah, hip hop

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Speaker 1: so bad, But we don't talk about it because that's

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Speaker 1: our business. We'll figure it out. We don't worry about

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Speaker 1: the problematic verracular being used. Yeah, we'll get it together.

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Speaker 1: Drake would still be around, right, we all heard his

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Speaker 1: latest songs. He's woke, nice for what's okay? I'm about

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Speaker 1: to be mean as hell all summer. So excited between

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Speaker 1: him and Cardi B Like, don't tell me ship, but yeah,

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Speaker 1: Like I think she's so underrated. I want her to

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Speaker 1: get more. I want to She's very rash, dreamed all

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Speaker 1: one more. Yeah, does she have the same sort of

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Speaker 1: likability as Cardi? Off the she's a bit she doesn't mean.

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Speaker 1: Cardi is so sweet and just like I feel like

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Speaker 1: everywhere Cardi goes. It's like they said that she reminds

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Speaker 1: them of like women in the Kanye's workout playing video,

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Speaker 1: Like after that guy's workout playing, I got a double

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Speaker 1: y and I'm rolling the plank. That's like Cardi B.

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Speaker 1: Everywhere she goes like, oh my god, thank you, thank you.

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Speaker 1: Know this girl is mean and wheels on my cavalier exactly,

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Speaker 1: but nice for what she doesn't need to be nice.

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Speaker 1: What's something that's over it? Um, streaming platforms? WHOA what

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Speaker 1: do you mean over it? I'm so over the amount

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Speaker 1: of content that exists. And as an actor, like this

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Speaker 1: is a terrible thing to same but like ship like

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Speaker 1: it's just too much. Like everybody's coming out with a

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Speaker 1: streaming platform, A T and T has one. Now you're

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Speaker 1: saying the fact that everybody got to share. I thought

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Speaker 1: you're like, streaming platforms are played, go back to using

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Speaker 1: c ds. We don't okay, I got I got you.

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Speaker 1: I got you because I was in the bird calls

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Speaker 1: get my nose. Um, they're trying to hoodwink me, and

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Speaker 1: I don't appreciate trying to be like, I don't appreciate

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Speaker 1: people trying to scam me, Like, we'll come on, say

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Speaker 1: some names, because clearly somebody hits you with a hey

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Speaker 1: for to join your platform, and you were like, no,

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Speaker 1: well listen, I'm a working actor, so I am about

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Speaker 1: to take nobody. We'll do it for Disney's starting one.

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Speaker 1: A T and T has one, A T and T

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Speaker 1: has one because they have that show Mr Mercedes. I

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Speaker 1: think it's like TV, yeah, but it's like on the A,

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Speaker 1: because I think that we all kind of turned to

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Speaker 1: streaming platforms, especially as millennials, because we were sick of

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Speaker 1: paying for cable and not necessarily enjoying everything that was

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Speaker 1: But um, I didn't added these ships up, and we're

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Speaker 1: climbing over that eighty dollars and we don't have that fun.

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Speaker 1: I don't live tweet as much as I used to.

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Speaker 1: SI live tweets so much, and it's so fun. It's

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Speaker 1: such a cool way to connect with people. And now

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Speaker 1: like everyone's watching it at a different time. Yeah, And

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Speaker 1: there's no such thing as spoilers. I also want to

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Speaker 1: say that all you people talking about spoilers need to

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Speaker 1: kick rocks. If you don't watch something all time, that's

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Speaker 1: your fault. Okay, kick rocks. Do you get into the

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Speaker 1: live events, like did you watch Jesus Christ Superstar and

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Speaker 1: live tweet that or I was busy, but you're too

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Speaker 1: busy for the Lord. The Lord. Okay, okay, okay, I

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Speaker 1: was at charged on Easter. I was at Heather Service,

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Speaker 1: which goes it starts at like two o'clock. That's because

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Speaker 1: It's very Hollywood. It's a little to Hollywood. I might

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Speaker 1: I'm like a Southern Baptist, so I'm like, you know,

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Speaker 1: TV and like sitting the equivalent of phoning it in

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Speaker 1: basically really phoned in Eastern Service. Okay, of all services. Hey,

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Speaker 1: look we gotta get those checks. However, we got to

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Speaker 1: you know, listen I'm sorry, let me not trash one.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna get drug because one churches we have love.

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Speaker 1: I'm not going to call it a call because it's not.

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Speaker 1: But it's a strong love church. What is it justin

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Speaker 1: Bieber's church? No? I think he goes out with that

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Speaker 1: cool pastor where where's the short? And they all right?

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Speaker 1: And finally we like to ask our guests what is

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Speaker 1: that you know to be false. Well, I've come on

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Speaker 1: I have, like really drug out. But I was reading

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Speaker 1: without access to medical care. YEA, like getting intubation because

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Speaker 1: million people lost their healthcare between and I don't think

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Speaker 1: So it was just real to find out that, you know,

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Speaker 1: Over the weekend, we had a fire in New York's City,

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Speaker 1: But it's happening in reality. So it's just like another

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Speaker 1: whereas a female student with the same grade was expected

423
00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:05,280
Speaker 1: to see herself as smarter than only fifty four percent

424
00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:07,560
Speaker 1: of our class. So we all think we're smarter than

425
00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:12,320
Speaker 1: we actually are. But uh men, it's vastly overestimated. I

426
00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:14,200
Speaker 1: don't know, do you ever grow up an Asian house

427
00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:17,360
Speaker 1: because I'll get a's and my mom was like, think

428
00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:19,600
Speaker 1: you're smart, right, you get a ninety nine. They'd be like,

429
00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:22,480
Speaker 1: what happens to the one exact. And it's funny because

430
00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:24,840
Speaker 1: I have an almost different relationship with grades, where I

431
00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:27,639
Speaker 1: was always operating from a place of lack. I was

432
00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:31,760
Speaker 1: like myself, prove myself. I'm not smart than everybody, right, So, yes,

433
00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:35,080
Speaker 1: thank you everybody. I'm the most wokeman on earth. But

434
00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:37,480
Speaker 1: I do think that, Yeah, we we have talked about

435
00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:40,360
Speaker 1: the Dunning Kruger effect and the fact that people who

436
00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:43,919
Speaker 1: don't know all that much are the ones who are

437
00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:46,919
Speaker 1: most likely to overestimate themselves, and people who know a

438
00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:51,680
Speaker 1: lot are the most likely to accurately or underestimate themselves.

439
00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:56,200
Speaker 1: But I just think it's interesting that men So there's

440
00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:59,320
Speaker 1: this huge gap in the stems. Uh. You know, more

441
00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:04,720
Speaker 1: men stem degrees science, technology, engineering, engineering, and mathematics, and

442
00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:09,880
Speaker 1: more men get STEM degrees, more men go into STEM fields. Yes,

443
00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:14,280
Speaker 1: so women fill of all us jobs. This is in

444
00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:18,640
Speaker 1: two thousand fifteen, but they hold only of STEM jobs

445
00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:23,160
Speaker 1: because there's just this gap. And uh, we saw this

446
00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:27,439
Speaker 1: when there was that googler who got fired from Google

447
00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:30,040
Speaker 1: for posting a letter where it was like men are

448
00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:34,120
Speaker 1: just better at engineering them women, Like, what can I say? Uh,

449
00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:40,000
Speaker 1: this is one of those things that people actually believing.

450
00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:43,080
Speaker 1: You'd be surprised how many men actually believe like men

451
00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:46,240
Speaker 1: are just have better minds for math. Like the president,

452
00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:50,600
Speaker 1: the president of fucking Harvard was like basically said something

453
00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:52,720
Speaker 1: to that effect, not too long and when you don't

454
00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:55,680
Speaker 1: deserve to be anywhere near Harvard. Bro. He got in

455
00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:57,240
Speaker 1: a lot of trouble for it, but he was like,

456
00:24:57,640 --> 00:25:00,520
Speaker 1: we have to acknowledge that their differences, but Queen, male

457
00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:03,480
Speaker 1: and female minds and black people have an extra muscle

458
00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:11,000
Speaker 1: in their hamstring. Exactly, that's the slippery slope. And I've

459
00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:15,920
Speaker 1: just witnessed this personally my wife being a doctor, Like

460
00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:20,560
Speaker 1: it's just crazy, the unspoken sexism in that field. Like

461
00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:23,760
Speaker 1: and just like I've gone into doctor's appointments where the

462
00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:27,199
Speaker 1: doctor will talk to me about her, like when she

463
00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:29,560
Speaker 1: has something wrong with her, Like, wait, why are you

464
00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:32,639
Speaker 1: taking her to her doctor's appointment? I was just with her, Okay,

465
00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:34,400
Speaker 1: I thought, oh, for the child when you were having

466
00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:37,280
Speaker 1: a child. No, no, no, we we were. She was

467
00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:39,640
Speaker 1: there at the doctor's appointment. I was just with her.

468
00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:43,120
Speaker 1: It was like a weird freak accident. In my mind,

469
00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:46,480
Speaker 1: what are you doing? In my mind? In my mind

470
00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:49,840
Speaker 1: opinion the super misogynistic problem by problematic husband was like, Okay,

471
00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:51,120
Speaker 1: you want to go to the doctor. Okay, I'm gonna

472
00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:57,040
Speaker 1: go with you. I know, I don't know about relationship.

473
00:25:57,240 --> 00:26:04,000
Speaker 1: Doctor already seen the doctor. The doctor knew that she

474
00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:08,440
Speaker 1: was a doctor. And it's still told me like the

475
00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:11,879
Speaker 1: like you're buying a right, yeah, exactly thing. What the

476
00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:14,240
Speaker 1: dually is? Man? The horsepower you're getting out of this

477
00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:18,639
Speaker 1: thing now, lady wife is there speaking Chinese to you,

478
00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:21,119
Speaker 1: little lady. But you get it right, sir, this this

479
00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:23,800
Speaker 1: comes turbo D's right, exactly gonna want that. There was

480
00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:29,120
Speaker 1: a scene in Madmen where they talked to January Jones's

481
00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:33,000
Speaker 1: husband about her cancer diagnosis while she's just like sitting

482
00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:36,000
Speaker 1: there and that ship still happens, right, And like, it

483
00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:39,880
Speaker 1: just seems like it's more embedded in people's minds than

484
00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:46,080
Speaker 1: we realize. It's just so predictable that undergraduate men would

485
00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:50,119
Speaker 1: just have this sort of in built an overcompetence. And

486
00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:52,080
Speaker 1: are they saying that sort of contribute to an atmosphere

487
00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:54,760
Speaker 1: that like where women are probably at a sort of

488
00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:57,600
Speaker 1: fork in the road to choose a STEM career, stem

489
00:26:57,640 --> 00:27:00,199
Speaker 1: academic path and they're just kind of like fun. If

490
00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:02,680
Speaker 1: I'm dealing with this ship, then you know, well they

491
00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:05,760
Speaker 1: so what they're saying, and this has been true. My

492
00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:09,760
Speaker 1: experience is that women internalize these sort of beliefs, Like

493
00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:12,199
Speaker 1: women are less likely to raise their hands in the

494
00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:17,120
Speaker 1: class because I think they are saying that the instructors

495
00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:19,480
Speaker 1: are more likely to be men. But even if it's women,

496
00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:23,320
Speaker 1: it's a long term thing. It's a thing where you know,

497
00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:26,080
Speaker 1: even women who come up in the STEM field are

498
00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:30,520
Speaker 1: indoctrinated with this idea that like men run ship. Yeah,

499
00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:33,600
Speaker 1: well that's true. The tech world is still the last

500
00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:35,200
Speaker 1: sort of were not for the last frontier, but one

501
00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:39,760
Speaker 1: of the remaining frontiers. It's super fucked up, lopsided. I

502
00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:43,080
Speaker 1: think that studies like this it's great to shed light,

503
00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:45,359
Speaker 1: but I feel like sometimes in the way that we

504
00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:48,280
Speaker 1: strive for a quality of the sexes or even the races,

505
00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:51,040
Speaker 1: is might not be like the most effective. It's weird

506
00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:53,000
Speaker 1: to try to tell people who are arrogant to like

507
00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:55,840
Speaker 1: come down and realize, like, oh, you're not that great,

508
00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:57,919
Speaker 1: when I think it might be easier for us to

509
00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:01,320
Speaker 1: just come up to that plays Like I remember when

510
00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:02,639
Speaker 1: I was a kid, my grandma used to tell me

511
00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:05,080
Speaker 1: that only black people were good at things. Um, and

512
00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:08,280
Speaker 1: I believe this for so long actually, until I heard

513
00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:10,080
Speaker 1: Christina Aguilar saying because I was like, great, is she

514
00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:16,719
Speaker 1: not black? But what that gave me? Right, she probably is.

515
00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:18,960
Speaker 1: But what that gave me was an end no centricity.

516
00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:22,200
Speaker 1: That gave me confidence, especially as a darker skin black woman,

517
00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:23,639
Speaker 1: where I have to deal with the bullshit within my

518
00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:26,440
Speaker 1: own race. But it made me feel like I'm supposed

519
00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:28,159
Speaker 1: to be here. I should be taking up space. I

520
00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:30,480
Speaker 1: feel like we as women have to get more, like,

521
00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:33,200
Speaker 1: you know, maybe we should be man spreading too. Instead

522
00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:35,840
Speaker 1: of asking the man stop spread, you just move your

523
00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:38,240
Speaker 1: thighs out a little more too, like take up a

524
00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:40,400
Speaker 1: little more space. Right. Well, then I think that's what

525
00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:42,400
Speaker 1: this article is. You just distill it down to men

526
00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:44,680
Speaker 1: are fucking dumb and they think they're smarter than they are,

527
00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:47,000
Speaker 1: So don't worry. So don't worry, like raise your head,

528
00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:52,480
Speaker 1: talk and talk over them, probably step on their words.

529
00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:55,280
Speaker 1: It might be easier than like, hey, guys, could you

530
00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:58,680
Speaker 1: all be consider it? Could you be more realistic about

531
00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:02,320
Speaker 1: how dumb you are, honest with yourself about your ability, sir?

532
00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:05,080
Speaker 1: I mean, I think their main takeaway is that they

533
00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:08,640
Speaker 1: need more women in stem fields, and they need to

534
00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:13,200
Speaker 1: actually do more structural things to encourage women to to

535
00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:16,360
Speaker 1: go into these fields. Men make you miserable sometimes in

536
00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:18,880
Speaker 1: those kinds of male dominated atmospheres. I mean, I did

537
00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:21,600
Speaker 1: stand up for forever, and it starts to become very

538
00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:24,360
Speaker 1: taxing on your soul to constantly have to deal with

539
00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:28,280
Speaker 1: harassment and men talking to you crazy and like yeah,

540
00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:30,520
Speaker 1: and it can make you want to leave for sure.

541
00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:32,200
Speaker 1: So I can understand why women are like if I'm

542
00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:34,680
Speaker 1: already in this expertise, like I don't necessarily have to

543
00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:36,480
Speaker 1: do this with my education, and I can still make

544
00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:41,040
Speaker 1: money and avoid men. Men in stand up are specifically

545
00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:43,240
Speaker 1: like just talk down to you, or if they like

546
00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:46,880
Speaker 1: assume that you're oh yeah, like oh you need to

547
00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:49,360
Speaker 1: be as funny as you are cute or like like

548
00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:51,600
Speaker 1: crazy ship like that. Yeah, to my face, I think

549
00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:56,080
Speaker 1: they're being nice to be because you remember, like stand

550
00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:58,200
Speaker 1: up is still one of those fields that goes down

551
00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:02,280
Speaker 1: mostly in dark weird, right, so it's like it's a rodeo.

552
00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:04,960
Speaker 1: Like that's why when ship came out about like Lucy

553
00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:07,160
Speaker 1: Kay and whoever else, it's like, yeah, they're stand up guys, Like,

554
00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:09,040
Speaker 1: what do you mean every stand up is showing you

555
00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:12,920
Speaker 1: their dike. It's the norm. Their office is a murky

556
00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:16,520
Speaker 1: dark room, it is, yeah, in the middle of the night.

557
00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:21,120
Speaker 1: But yeah, so I completely understand fields that would drive

558
00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:23,880
Speaker 1: you out of them, right, Yeah, so it's it's probably

559
00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:26,520
Speaker 1: not just the stem fields either, but I think this

560
00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:32,680
Speaker 1: is broader. Yeah, the tech industry is especially bad, especially

561
00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:36,400
Speaker 1: for being located in, you know, a town that prides

562
00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:41,560
Speaker 1: itself on wokeness, San Francisco, And uh, it's yeah, it's

563
00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:43,760
Speaker 1: pretty rough up there, all right. And then one of

564
00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:46,160
Speaker 1: the things that I wanted to talk about real quick

565
00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:50,440
Speaker 1: is this news alert that credit card companies are now

566
00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:55,120
Speaker 1: just admitting that we don't need to sign bills. That like,

567
00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:58,960
Speaker 1: signing bills doesn't do anything. So like when you get

568
00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:02,400
Speaker 1: the receipt after the merchant copy customer copy sign here,

569
00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:05,600
Speaker 1: you don't have to sign any Apparently credit card vendors

570
00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:09,720
Speaker 1: are basically acknowledging that that doesn't do anything. It doesn't

571
00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:14,320
Speaker 1: prevent fraud and it never has and which is something

572
00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:17,600
Speaker 1: that like I always suspected, but I assumed they had

573
00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:22,560
Speaker 1: some like other reason for that existing. But is it

574
00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:25,360
Speaker 1: not for the merchant. I thought it was more protection

575
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:29,800
Speaker 1: on the merchant of like, look, we didn't someone signed

576
00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:31,960
Speaker 1: it that way, the credit card companies don't come after

577
00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:34,479
Speaker 1: them for the fraud, right, right, because it would makes

578
00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:35,920
Speaker 1: sense the credit card companies to be like, yeah, we

579
00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:37,240
Speaker 1: don't need you how to sign no more, so we

580
00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:40,400
Speaker 1: can start getting these marches to charge back. Right. I

581
00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:42,480
Speaker 1: never signed the back of my credit card because I

582
00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:44,920
Speaker 1: was just philosophically opposed to it. I was raised with

583
00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:46,880
Speaker 1: a myth of sort of like you sign the back

584
00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:49,040
Speaker 1: because that's how they still your signature, and that's how

585
00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:50,959
Speaker 1: they're going to know how to sign your ship like

586
00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:52,920
Speaker 1: you if they ever gets your credit card, because I

587
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:55,440
Speaker 1: think that was an era in which, like, you know,

588
00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:58,080
Speaker 1: people were still using like the carbon paper, you know,

589
00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:01,200
Speaker 1: credit card slips and just like and then like you're

590
00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:03,240
Speaker 1: filling out the receipt like that. I guess it makes

591
00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:05,880
Speaker 1: sense because whenever I get to like an electronic keypad

592
00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:10,160
Speaker 1: like where you slide your card and then I literally

593
00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:12,600
Speaker 1: do a circle or a line because I'm like, I've

594
00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:15,120
Speaker 1: never been someone like excuse me, can I see your signature, sir?

595
00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:18,400
Speaker 1: I've never seen anybody matches signature. Oh I really try

596
00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:20,480
Speaker 1: to they do with the bank. I got into a

597
00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:23,440
Speaker 1: fight at my bank because they're like, you don't sign

598
00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:25,680
Speaker 1: anything the same. Ever, I was like, do people sign

599
00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:27,840
Speaker 1: their signature the same way every single time? I mean

600
00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:29,680
Speaker 1: I always put a star in the middle because I'm

601
00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:34,680
Speaker 1: extra Yeah. I was like, this is here, y'all go

602
00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:38,480
Speaker 1: because I'm on got no, So I put like it's

603
00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:41,400
Speaker 1: like lacy and then the mosley and then I take

604
00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:44,000
Speaker 1: the y at the end and circle it back to

605
00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:49,200
Speaker 1: the middle and make a star. Did you take a class? No,

606
00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:51,200
Speaker 1: it's not cute. I have horrible I think I'm writing

607
00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:53,720
Speaker 1: a serial killer. Like it's so bad and it changes.

608
00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:55,600
Speaker 1: So then the bank's always like this is not true.

609
00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:57,600
Speaker 1: And I was like, this is me. Look at me

610
00:32:57,640 --> 00:32:59,760
Speaker 1: in my eye right and tell me this is not me.

611
00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:02,160
Speaker 1: But they made me sign several times once. I had

612
00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:03,600
Speaker 1: to go in the bank and spent an hour. They're

613
00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:05,240
Speaker 1: just signing over and over again because they were like,

614
00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:07,080
Speaker 1: none of these are the same, right, and we've also

615
00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:11,160
Speaker 1: write in a forensic handwriting to make sure this is you. Yeah,

616
00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:14,000
Speaker 1: and uh. Super producer Nick Stump was saying he has

617
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:17,640
Speaker 1: the same problem as signature doesn't end up being the same. Uh,

618
00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:20,840
Speaker 1: and that that got him in trouble in Mexico, where

619
00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:25,040
Speaker 1: like he went down there with nothing but traveler's checks

620
00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:27,440
Speaker 1: and they were like, your signature doesn't look the same.

621
00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:30,080
Speaker 1: He was like, well, I'm gonna starve to death. Then

622
00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:32,400
Speaker 1: I swear just don't look at me while I do it.

623
00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:34,360
Speaker 1: I bet you I can do it. Some traveler's checks.

624
00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:36,960
Speaker 1: That's a scam. I need to get into with the

625
00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:42,560
Speaker 1: queue on that end. Uh yeah, So apparently the whole

626
00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:45,640
Speaker 1: idea behind those chips, which I assumed was like a

627
00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:49,600
Speaker 1: security thing, but uh sup. Producer Nick Stump was saying

628
00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:53,520
Speaker 1: that that is actually to put the liability on the

629
00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:57,120
Speaker 1: store instead of the credit card company, because I guess

630
00:33:57,240 --> 00:34:01,000
Speaker 1: it pinpoints the location of the car. Are two being there,

631
00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:03,320
Speaker 1: like you know for a fact that the card was there,

632
00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:05,600
Speaker 1: rather than someone like manually punching a credit card number

633
00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:07,560
Speaker 1: with the respiration day or something. They're like, no, you

634
00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:10,040
Speaker 1: put the chip in right there in our terminal. Right.

635
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Speaker 1: But either way, the signature part of it, I don't

636
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Speaker 1: know what. Maybe that was opening the credit cards up

637
00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:19,759
Speaker 1: to liability before, but uh, I don't know. I think

638
00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:21,480
Speaker 1: it's one of those things where we just got excited

639
00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:23,799
Speaker 1: about knowing we're not signing. I don't care about the

640
00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:27,279
Speaker 1: rest of the details. This is like, this is like

641
00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:32,600
Speaker 1: the when when Suddenly Susan Suddenly Susan, my favorite show

642
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:36,640
Speaker 1: came out and uh no when suddenly uh air airlines

643
00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:38,719
Speaker 1: were like, oh, yeah, you don't actually have to turn

644
00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:41,239
Speaker 1: off your phone when during takeoff and landing for a

645
00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:44,040
Speaker 1: little while. They just like opened they said, yeah, there

646
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Speaker 1: was a there was a point where like we used

647
00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:50,239
Speaker 1: to have to actually turn shipped off. You can't even

648
00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:53,520
Speaker 1: have your phone on and for an airplane mode. Well

649
00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:55,960
Speaker 1: before that they were saying you had to turn it

650
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Speaker 1: completely at you And then they were like, all right,

651
00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:02,680
Speaker 1: we're just working around that, which brought about my favorite

652
00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:07,000
Speaker 1: joke and soul plane, where's they someone ties to make

653
00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:13,560
Speaker 1: a foe call the plane goes down classics. The aviation

654
00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:15,840
Speaker 1: industry paid for that joke to get written in R

655
00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:19,400
Speaker 1: Are there other things like that that you guys can

656
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:22,640
Speaker 1: think of that you're like, I bet this doesn't actually

657
00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:25,600
Speaker 1: need to exist or that like the function of it

658
00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:30,759
Speaker 1: doesn't totally makes sense. You're you're just waiting to for

659
00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:32,480
Speaker 1: them to come out and be like, yeah, we're lying

660
00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:39,320
Speaker 1: about the whole political system police saying you know you

661
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:41,360
Speaker 1: know what you're see our our two party system of government.

662
00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:44,319
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know. I'll have to do something

663
00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:47,600
Speaker 1: in my dad cameras. What do you mean red light

664
00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:50,759
Speaker 1: cameras are I've been popped on a un constitutional though

665
00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:54,600
Speaker 1: I pay them, you don't have to. They can't come

666
00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:58,320
Speaker 1: after you. I run red lights all the time. Do

667
00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:02,200
Speaker 1: stand by this as legal advice? Yeah? Well it wasn't

668
00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:04,719
Speaker 1: there a case because somebody, because they argued they're not

669
00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:07,320
Speaker 1: allowed to, they created a spray that would react with

670
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:10,200
Speaker 1: the flash, that would basically obscure the license plate. And

671
00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:11,600
Speaker 1: then like it got into this thing of like, well,

672
00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:14,040
Speaker 1: actually this spray is legal because what you're doing is

673
00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:17,680
Speaker 1: illegal and we're protecting ourselves from I don't know. I'm

674
00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:20,680
Speaker 1: not exactly sure, but I do know that, like I'll

675
00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:24,080
Speaker 1: be running these red license it flash and not listen.

676
00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:26,719
Speaker 1: I'm not recklessly it. Look if it's two a m

677
00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:29,640
Speaker 1: in l A and nobody's on the roll, that's like

678
00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:32,960
Speaker 1: olden times, like horse and buggy rules. I like that

679
00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:36,040
Speaker 1: I usould use this in court to uh, my honor.

680
00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:39,800
Speaker 1: I have to tell you, honor, my honor can I

681
00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:43,680
Speaker 1: say something really quick. This is like olden times, the

682
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:47,239
Speaker 1: old olden times. That defense. I have read somewhere that

683
00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:51,800
Speaker 1: red light cameras cause more accidents than they prevent because

684
00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:56,800
Speaker 1: basically people, it adds a leg in the slamming on

685
00:36:56,840 --> 00:36:59,800
Speaker 1: the brakes because you have to be like, okay, a

686
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:02,400
Speaker 1: gonna stop or go, and your initial instinct is to

687
00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:04,960
Speaker 1: go for it, but then you remember there's a red

688
00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:07,440
Speaker 1: light camera there, so you like speed up, then slam

689
00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:11,040
Speaker 1: on the brakes, and people just get wrecked that way exactly.

690
00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:14,839
Speaker 1: That's see, I'm trying to save lives out here, exactly. Okay, Well,

691
00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:17,520
Speaker 1: so do not pay your red light camera bills. Super

692
00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:20,400
Speaker 1: producer on a hose Nier is letting us know that

693
00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:24,160
Speaker 1: her mother designs those cameras directly impact our family, So

694
00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:30,000
Speaker 1: actually please pay everything that they say. Yeah I won't. Yeah,

695
00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:31,920
Speaker 1: but zyke gang, I want to hear some of your

696
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:35,960
Speaker 1: things that are like the credit card signature that you're

697
00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:37,920
Speaker 1: just waiting for the companies to come out and be like,

698
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:39,640
Speaker 1: all right, we don't know why we were doing this

699
00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:43,200
Speaker 1: in the first place. Uh, let us know, and we're

700
00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:53,800
Speaker 1: gonna take a quick break. We'll be right back and

701
00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:58,239
Speaker 1: we're back from break and actually this is Miles and

702
00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:02,560
Speaker 1: Jack in the future. We wanted to drop in here

703
00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:06,680
Speaker 1: after the recording because some news just broke what what

704
00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:10,880
Speaker 1: we're calling today's bombshell. But so we didn't know about

705
00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:15,960
Speaker 1: this at the recording. But the FBI just rated Michael Cohen,

706
00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:21,160
Speaker 1: Trump's lawyers, his office, his house like a Manhattan hotel

707
00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:27,959
Speaker 1: room rooming documents. Uh. So I don't know this could

708
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:32,120
Speaker 1: be something. The story as it's being reported is that

709
00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:37,239
Speaker 1: Muller found something and passed it along to the FBI. Uh,

710
00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:42,120
Speaker 1: And they are making this raid based on that information,

711
00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:46,120
Speaker 1: or at least that's what Michael Cohen's lawyer said. Um.

712
00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:49,080
Speaker 1: But I mean, presumably this guy knows where all the

713
00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:51,920
Speaker 1: bodies are buried. So that's why people are reacting like

714
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:55,880
Speaker 1: it's a big deal. Uh. I have never seen somebody

715
00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:59,440
Speaker 1: who scanned more as a criminal in my life than

716
00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:03,239
Speaker 1: Michael uh Cohen. Like I remember seeing him for the

717
00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:06,600
Speaker 1: first time on one of the news shows during the

718
00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:10,800
Speaker 1: Republican National Convention and just being like, who the Like,

719
00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:13,560
Speaker 1: he's clearly going to try and bury this guy because

720
00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:17,080
Speaker 1: like he can't have people like this associated with him

721
00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:21,480
Speaker 1: once he's president and lifelong friends with Felix Sader. He

722
00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:23,200
Speaker 1: might be a Russian spy or he might be an

723
00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:26,280
Speaker 1: American hero, depending on what you believe that's been written

724
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:28,279
Speaker 1: about him. So, I guess we'll have to do some

725
00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:30,680
Speaker 1: digging and then we'll tell you what we find tomorrow. Yeah,

726
00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:34,520
Speaker 1: but back to the show, and we're back and uh,

727
00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:37,880
Speaker 1: so we wanted to cover some media here at the

728
00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:39,840
Speaker 1: end of the show, and first up, we wanted to

729
00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:43,719
Speaker 1: talk about some right wing media that things aren't going

730
00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:48,640
Speaker 1: well for some of our favorite outlets. No, I really, guys,

731
00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:53,080
Speaker 1: it's really hard being a Nazi, especially if you're trying

732
00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:55,080
Speaker 1: to be in the media, because I guess people don't

733
00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:57,920
Speaker 1: funk with the message or something. I'm I still don't

734
00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:01,440
Speaker 1: know what it is. But uh, for for serious business,

735
00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:04,600
Speaker 1: storm Front, which is like one of the most infamous,

736
00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:07,680
Speaker 1: like neo nazi websites out there. Uh, they are in

737
00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:10,800
Speaker 1: some pretty like they're in some financial trouble. Uh and

738
00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:13,920
Speaker 1: like the founder announced like that you know, contributes to

739
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:16,560
Speaker 1: their site was less than two thousand dollars in recent

740
00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:19,040
Speaker 1: months and and it would have to like restrict access

741
00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:23,200
Speaker 1: and put their hate filled bullshit behind a paywall. Oh, god. Uh.

742
00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:25,160
Speaker 1: And they're basically saying, like you know, boo who, We've

743
00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:27,600
Speaker 1: got only two thousand, which is not even enough to

744
00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:30,480
Speaker 1: quote cover our basic server and radio bills, and this

745
00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:33,080
Speaker 1: month we no longer have enough personal money to make

746
00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:37,440
Speaker 1: up the difference. Well, I'm sorry, that's probably because you

747
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:40,320
Speaker 1: guys are heinous people and the ship that you post

748
00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:43,960
Speaker 1: is fucking awful. Uh. So Stormfront was like the o

749
00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:46,719
Speaker 1: G neo Nazi website and then the Daily Stormer, which

750
00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:49,560
Speaker 1: is Andrew Angland's website. They came up and kind of

751
00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:51,960
Speaker 1: like the new kid in town. Uh. And also that

752
00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:55,319
Speaker 1: website is also having trouble because Andrew Angland he's facing

753
00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:57,480
Speaker 1: a lot of lawsuits because he was like, you know,

754
00:40:57,880 --> 00:41:00,520
Speaker 1: he claimed that he was the person behind and inflicting

755
00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:03,759
Speaker 1: like this distress on Jewish real estate agent I think

756
00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:07,480
Speaker 1: in that town of white Fish, Montana where ryansin keys from. Uh.

757
00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:10,400
Speaker 1: And also like another person is suing him for defamation.

758
00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:13,839
Speaker 1: And it's getting hard for him too because now like that, uh,

759
00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:16,520
Speaker 1: you know a lot of people who are doing transactions

760
00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:19,239
Speaker 1: with the Daily storm and things like that, they're no

761
00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:22,080
Speaker 1: longer sort of providing the financial infrastructure for these people

762
00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:25,160
Speaker 1: to raise funds and things like that. So it's, uh,

763
00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:28,120
Speaker 1: it's it's overall looking like funds are sort of dwindling

764
00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:31,120
Speaker 1: for for these kinds of websites. I mean not to

765
00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:33,239
Speaker 1: say that this ship is gonna vanish forever, but you know,

766
00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:35,360
Speaker 1: it's funny to see these people go and just be like,

767
00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:37,600
Speaker 1: oh my god, we're victims and blah blah blah. It's like,

768
00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:39,799
Speaker 1: you know, the SPLC says like some of you are

769
00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:42,239
Speaker 1: actually directly involved with like murders and ship or your

770
00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:44,479
Speaker 1: rhetoric has led to these kinds of things, So don't

771
00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:47,640
Speaker 1: you know, go cry somewhere, eld I just you know

772
00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:50,360
Speaker 1: what it is I think is that the kind of

773
00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:54,239
Speaker 1: material that they're putting out. It's hard to have a

774
00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:57,799
Speaker 1: news page stay fresh when everything is just the same

775
00:41:57,880 --> 00:42:01,880
Speaker 1: old ship like the KKK Doctor and hasn't really like

776
00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:05,440
Speaker 1: you know, evolved and grown into something. It's just you know,

777
00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:09,160
Speaker 1: killed killed the colors and they're doing all the bad things.

778
00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:12,239
Speaker 1: So it's like after a while, they're trying to keep

779
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:15,680
Speaker 1: checking before I know what it's gonna say. Let me

780
00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:21,480
Speaker 1: guess Obama something, some immigrants, Muslims. It's like, I don't

781
00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:24,680
Speaker 1: got no fresh content. No fresh white supremacy going on,

782
00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:26,279
Speaker 1: Like they don't have You don't have a take on

783
00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:30,000
Speaker 1: to Kashi six nine. What's the latest white supremacy fashions?

784
00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:32,359
Speaker 1: We know new balances and polos, but what else are

785
00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:35,080
Speaker 1: white supremacies wearing. You don't get some columns in there

786
00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:37,799
Speaker 1: and get some excitement in there, and then people may

787
00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:40,399
Speaker 1: come back, So you should stay off your businesses. Yeah,

788
00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:46,799
Speaker 1: I'm offering my services women of Color as for a rebrand. Yeah, exactly. Look,

789
00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:50,440
Speaker 1: if anybody knows Nazis, it's women of Color. One of

790
00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:54,120
Speaker 1: our earliest segments on The Daily Zeitgeist was a look

791
00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:58,120
Speaker 1: at this Nazi letter that went out to people before

792
00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:05,000
Speaker 1: the Charlottesville Uh like meet up. I guess supremacist back,

793
00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:11,640
Speaker 1: white supremacist Cohn where that that was informing people how

794
00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:14,520
Speaker 1: to be Chad's which is their word for being like

795
00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:18,680
Speaker 1: a sick bro who's like hot ch chicks want to

796
00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:23,040
Speaker 1: get with uh. And it was just incredible. I forget

797
00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:25,200
Speaker 1: what episode it was, but I think it was. I

798
00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:26,640
Speaker 1: think it was maybe one of the bonus It was

799
00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:28,920
Speaker 1: one of the from the early on, but it was

800
00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:31,759
Speaker 1: with Jamie I think, right, Yeah, I mean they do

801
00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:37,480
Speaker 1: have that one devil who has that haircut a haircut,

802
00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:41,480
Speaker 1: but even he is having trouble, you know, everyone's abandoning

803
00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:43,759
Speaker 1: him too. And he's like on this website like make

804
00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:46,680
Speaker 1: er support and he was like, yo, guys, I'm broke,

805
00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:49,040
Speaker 1: like I need I need money, Like there there's no

806
00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:52,839
Speaker 1: way for us to make money as Neo nazis right, Yeah,

807
00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:56,600
Speaker 1: because in their fan base is poor people, so they're

808
00:43:56,600 --> 00:43:58,279
Speaker 1: not gonna be able to help you family. That's I

809
00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:00,400
Speaker 1: don't know. I mean, I feel like Robert Mercer obviously

810
00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:02,600
Speaker 1: like you know, he'll he'll probably come through it. Yeah,

811
00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:05,000
Speaker 1: that's true, that's true. But I feel like the larger

812
00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:08,759
Speaker 1: bases for people like because once you start having enough money,

813
00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:10,840
Speaker 1: I feel like there's some people who stay on the

814
00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:12,640
Speaker 1: hate way, but there's some people who were only on

815
00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:15,880
Speaker 1: it because they were broke, right or helps explain, you know,

816
00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:18,880
Speaker 1: if you can't bad, if you can't understand sort of

817
00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:21,320
Speaker 1: what the other powers that be, it's much easier to

818
00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:23,000
Speaker 1: be like, hey, it's the immigrants or the caravan of

819
00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:25,319
Speaker 1: people that's coming. I'm very happy though that they can't work,

820
00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:29,200
Speaker 1: because they're terrible people. So if if money is you know,

821
00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:32,160
Speaker 1: being drained out of their business and that's the same

822
00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:34,560
Speaker 1: thing that happened. So also along that line, not so

823
00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:37,560
Speaker 1: you know, Fringe is a Fox News so you know,

824
00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:40,919
Speaker 1: Laura Ingram had that like spat with David Hoag where

825
00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:42,880
Speaker 1: she was like a ha ha, you didn't get into college.

826
00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:49,360
Speaker 1: You're shooting victim and everyone was like, holy Shita, bad nazi,

827
00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:53,120
Speaker 1: bad nazi. Uh and what's so after that, like a

828
00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:56,120
Speaker 1: lot of advertisers started falling out because they're like, you know,

829
00:44:56,160 --> 00:44:58,440
Speaker 1: it wasn't even that people obviously know if you're if

830
00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:00,400
Speaker 1: you're advertising on Fox, you know what they're brand is.

831
00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:03,120
Speaker 1: It's still to be controversial. But this one was so

832
00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:06,360
Speaker 1: like just so it showed such a lack of boundaries,

833
00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:08,440
Speaker 1: like of just like yo, that is not even like

834
00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:10,640
Speaker 1: a person to come at especially in that way like

835
00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:14,920
Speaker 1: a kid that a lot of people bailed. And like

836
00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:18,560
Speaker 1: there was a like a media research company, uh that

837
00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:20,920
Speaker 1: sort of did a little analysis and they said that

838
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:23,600
Speaker 1: the advertising time in her and Laura Ingram's show in

839
00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:26,000
Speaker 1: the two days after that tweet to David hog it

840
00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:28,920
Speaker 1: was cut down by half. And then even on Hannity,

841
00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:32,200
Speaker 1: they showed that Hannity's show even consistently has like fifteen

842
00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:34,759
Speaker 1: less ad time than the rest of the prime time

843
00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:37,600
Speaker 1: lineup at Fox. Um Now, people a Fox say that's

844
00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:40,080
Speaker 1: because we want less commercials because we don't want people

845
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Speaker 1: to switch the channel like when it comes to break.

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Speaker 1: But also if you really look at it to Rachel

847
00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:48,360
Speaker 1: Maddow has been coming up in the nine nine o'clock spot,

848
00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:52,279
Speaker 1: uh so and like and I think in March for

849
00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:54,600
Speaker 1: the first time she was beating handity. So I think

850
00:45:54,640 --> 00:45:56,319
Speaker 1: they're kind of like, yo, we gotta figure out how

851
00:45:56,360 --> 00:45:59,400
Speaker 1: to like, you know, I love the rebranding that I

852
00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:02,319
Speaker 1: love the thelm Ever, admit, what's happening is happening. They're

853
00:46:02,360 --> 00:46:03,719
Speaker 1: like no, no, no, which is given to people what

854
00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:08,120
Speaker 1: they want, more more hatred, less commercials. Yeah. I mean,

855
00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:12,160
Speaker 1: even when you watch Fox News, which dominates the other

856
00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:15,920
Speaker 1: ones in terms of like just actual numbers of people watching.

857
00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:19,360
Speaker 1: Uh the ads on Fox News are always like those

858
00:46:19,640 --> 00:46:23,719
Speaker 1: commemorative coins and ships. It's just it's very specific type

859
00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:26,600
Speaker 1: of advertising that's aimed at very old white men, and

860
00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:31,760
Speaker 1: that's not a very valuable demographic. Like people aren't aiming

861
00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:36,239
Speaker 1: for the elderly and the retired. Um you need millennials

862
00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:39,880
Speaker 1: to you know, that's that's the group that gets advertised

863
00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:43,120
Speaker 1: so horny like millennial is like the ad buzzword of

864
00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:45,399
Speaker 1: the millennium, where they're like, oh yeah, can we reach

865
00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:48,279
Speaker 1: millennials and affluent millennium. Their point of view couldn't be

866
00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:51,239
Speaker 1: more out of step with the point of view of

867
00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:54,359
Speaker 1: affluent millennials. But this is this is something that I've

868
00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:57,759
Speaker 1: been seeing online pointed out a lot as a free

869
00:46:57,840 --> 00:47:01,799
Speaker 1: speech issue, which it important to note that the only

870
00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:05,600
Speaker 1: thing the First Amendment protect is you from having the

871
00:47:05,680 --> 00:47:08,960
Speaker 1: government tell you what you can can't say. If people

872
00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:11,680
Speaker 1: don't like what you're saying and choose not to give

873
00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:14,800
Speaker 1: you their money to have their brand put next to

874
00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:18,960
Speaker 1: you while you say some funked up ship, that's just capitalism, man.

875
00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:21,600
Speaker 1: And that's why we need to add an amendment that

876
00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:24,600
Speaker 1: advertisers don't have the right to bail on my show

877
00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:28,480
Speaker 1: if I disrespect a bunch of young shooting victims. I

878
00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:30,520
Speaker 1: just think that Fox is it me or has it

879
00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:35,400
Speaker 1: skewed even further right into crazy town in the past,

880
00:47:35,600 --> 00:47:38,200
Speaker 1: like you know, a few years, like half a decade,

881
00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:40,919
Speaker 1: because I thought, like I remember watching Fox in high

882
00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:42,800
Speaker 1: school because I'm from Texas, so you know, it's just

883
00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:46,360
Speaker 1: gonna be on the TV sometimes um and then not

884
00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:50,200
Speaker 1: being that insane and knowing tons of Republicans because I'm

885
00:47:50,239 --> 00:47:54,080
Speaker 1: from Texas who weren't ashamed to be Republicans. It was

886
00:47:54,160 --> 00:47:56,720
Speaker 1: more about like, you know what, we want less taxes,

887
00:47:56,840 --> 00:47:59,080
Speaker 1: we want, you know, to keep our money whatever. It

888
00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:01,640
Speaker 1: wasn't like now where I feel like it's more rooted

889
00:48:01,719 --> 00:48:05,319
Speaker 1: in hate than like the actual financial gains of being right. Well,

890
00:48:05,320 --> 00:48:07,120
Speaker 1: I think that's the problem with Foxes that like it's

891
00:48:07,120 --> 00:48:09,520
Speaker 1: sort of the de facto arm of the r n

892
00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:12,839
Speaker 1: c s, like publicity wing, so it has to kind

893
00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:14,839
Speaker 1: of go along with now we have a president who

894
00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:19,239
Speaker 1: is fucking whack as fuck, so that inherently informs the

895
00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:21,319
Speaker 1: kind of ship that that Fox is doing to try

896
00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:23,600
Speaker 1: to normalize it and to keep everybody that's in the

897
00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:26,120
Speaker 1: base to be like, Okay, everything's fine, it's okay. It's

898
00:48:26,160 --> 00:48:28,279
Speaker 1: actually these other things out of the problem. It's the

899
00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:31,520
Speaker 1: immigrant a wave of coming through in the caravan and

900
00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:34,640
Speaker 1: all that ship. And I do think it's started going

901
00:48:34,719 --> 00:48:38,680
Speaker 1: in that direction when Obama became president because they I mean,

902
00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:41,520
Speaker 1: this is something I wanted to talk about, is just

903
00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:47,080
Speaker 1: sort of how the idea of making news a commodity

904
00:48:47,239 --> 00:48:49,640
Speaker 1: that you're trying to get people to buy and pay for.

905
00:48:50,120 --> 00:48:53,760
Speaker 1: And just like focusing on numbers is a super dangerous

906
00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:59,640
Speaker 1: thing because I mean, if their demographic is becoming more

907
00:48:59,719 --> 00:49:02,880
Speaker 1: and more are afraid of the government because uh, you

908
00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:07,520
Speaker 1: know they're racist and uh black man was just elected president. Uh,

909
00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:11,480
Speaker 1: then Fox is going to become more and more right

910
00:49:11,600 --> 00:49:14,680
Speaker 1: wing to try and chase that demographic. And this is

911
00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:16,960
Speaker 1: something that we just saw in the past couple of

912
00:49:17,040 --> 00:49:21,080
Speaker 1: weeks with buzz Feed. Uh So, BuzzFeed had this whole

913
00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:25,800
Speaker 1: thing with Trump seeing a Fox and Friends story about

914
00:49:26,280 --> 00:49:30,000
Speaker 1: this what they were calling a horde of immigrants coming

915
00:49:30,040 --> 00:49:33,040
Speaker 1: towards the Mexican border and they were going to cross

916
00:49:33,160 --> 00:49:36,960
Speaker 1: without anybody. So this all started with a BuzzFeed article

917
00:49:37,360 --> 00:49:41,040
Speaker 1: where the headline was something about how, uh you know,

918
00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:43,880
Speaker 1: this caravan is heading for the border and there's nothing

919
00:49:43,960 --> 00:49:47,800
Speaker 1: anyone can do to stop it. And my background, I

920
00:49:48,040 --> 00:49:50,600
Speaker 1: I uh was the editor in chief of Crack for

921
00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:54,040
Speaker 1: a while, and so I have experience with, uh, you know,

922
00:49:54,440 --> 00:49:57,440
Speaker 1: trying to find the best title to make something the

923
00:49:57,560 --> 00:50:00,520
Speaker 1: most clickable that it possibly can. And the way that

924
00:50:00,640 --> 00:50:04,440
Speaker 1: these headlines are generated is, you know, there were probably

925
00:50:04,520 --> 00:50:08,000
Speaker 1: twenty different headlines for that story that they put out there.

926
00:50:08,120 --> 00:50:13,840
Speaker 1: They have like you know, just hundreds of interns probably

927
00:50:14,080 --> 00:50:17,680
Speaker 1: generating these different things, and then they algorithm test it

928
00:50:17,800 --> 00:50:20,759
Speaker 1: to see which one is the most clickable, and then

929
00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:23,400
Speaker 1: they just go with that. And it doesn't matter if

930
00:50:23,480 --> 00:50:26,520
Speaker 1: that is the least accurate, Right, They're just going with

931
00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:29,600
Speaker 1: with whichever one is going to get the most eyeballs. Uh.

932
00:50:29,880 --> 00:50:32,880
Speaker 1: Same with Fox News. Uh, They're gonna go with the

933
00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:37,439
Speaker 1: stories that get their audience most excited and that match

934
00:50:37,560 --> 00:50:41,440
Speaker 1: their audiences pre existing views. And so I don't know,

935
00:50:41,560 --> 00:50:45,040
Speaker 1: this is just a danger I think. You know, American

936
00:50:45,200 --> 00:50:48,960
Speaker 1: media has always been a profit driven, right, but there

937
00:50:49,080 --> 00:50:53,439
Speaker 1: was this inherent understanding that, okay, you had to keep

938
00:50:53,520 --> 00:50:57,200
Speaker 1: the news room separate from the people who sold ads,

939
00:50:57,280 --> 00:51:00,400
Speaker 1: like that was a church state thing. Uh. And this

940
00:51:00,560 --> 00:51:02,880
Speaker 1: was something that I even in my time at Cracked,

941
00:51:02,920 --> 00:51:04,800
Speaker 1: I was like, well, do we have to do that anymore?

942
00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:07,480
Speaker 1: Maybe we can like start doing some you know, getting

943
00:51:07,520 --> 00:51:10,520
Speaker 1: advertising involved in things. But this is why that's so

944
00:51:10,760 --> 00:51:15,480
Speaker 1: dangerous is because you know, you really need to isolate

945
00:51:15,719 --> 00:51:18,719
Speaker 1: the you know, headline creation, like the whole thing, the

946
00:51:18,800 --> 00:51:23,120
Speaker 1: people who are creating the news from the capitalists, impulses

947
00:51:23,200 --> 00:51:24,880
Speaker 1: of the business, or else you're gonna get ship. But

948
00:51:24,920 --> 00:51:27,520
Speaker 1: when you guarantee Coca Cola, you know, three million clicks

949
00:51:27,560 --> 00:51:29,680
Speaker 1: on some ship, then you have to be like, Okay,

950
00:51:29,719 --> 00:51:32,200
Speaker 1: well we sold these impressions to an advertiser, and the

951
00:51:32,280 --> 00:51:34,120
Speaker 1: only way is like, well, we have to make sure

952
00:51:34,239 --> 00:51:38,680
Speaker 1: these articles are as clickable as possible, and the story

953
00:51:38,719 --> 00:51:43,480
Speaker 1: about immigration turns into hordes of immigrations towards the detriment

954
00:51:43,680 --> 00:51:47,719
Speaker 1: of Yeah, and I mean it's yeah when you look

955
00:51:47,719 --> 00:51:50,920
Speaker 1: at BuzzFeed, I mean like they they really knew how

956
00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:52,840
Speaker 1: to title ship, to get people to be interested in

957
00:51:52,840 --> 00:51:54,960
Speaker 1: the most mundane ship, you know what I mean. It's like,

958
00:51:55,480 --> 00:52:00,560
Speaker 1: check out these sixteen child celebrities. Now number eight will

959
00:52:00,680 --> 00:52:03,200
Speaker 1: make you ship, you know what I mean, You're like,

960
00:52:03,320 --> 00:52:06,719
Speaker 1: oh god, what is this ship? And now we're seeing

961
00:52:06,719 --> 00:52:08,920
Speaker 1: that with our news where it's like, yo, don't fuck this.

962
00:52:09,120 --> 00:52:10,879
Speaker 1: This is not how this is. I mean, I get

963
00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:14,359
Speaker 1: because BuzzFeed has done some good reporting too, but yeah,

964
00:52:14,440 --> 00:52:16,480
Speaker 1: this this is also just kind of reckless. And I

965
00:52:16,520 --> 00:52:18,560
Speaker 1: don't know if that's a function of you know, BuzzFeed

966
00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:22,320
Speaker 1: really overestimating the kind of revenue they would be generating

967
00:52:22,360 --> 00:52:24,440
Speaker 1: this this last year that they failed to hit some

968
00:52:24,520 --> 00:52:26,360
Speaker 1: of those goals, And don't know if that's a function

969
00:52:26,400 --> 00:52:28,279
Speaker 1: of that of trying to be like, Okay, we need

970
00:52:28,320 --> 00:52:30,320
Speaker 1: to really make sure ship is going. But yeah, this

971
00:52:30,440 --> 00:52:33,000
Speaker 1: is how we're seeing everything now, even from CNN, MSM.

972
00:52:33,080 --> 00:52:36,719
Speaker 1: Everybody knows let's try and create, like, let's get the

973
00:52:36,760 --> 00:52:39,040
Speaker 1: headlines that are going to get clicks now too, even

974
00:52:39,080 --> 00:52:41,160
Speaker 1: if it's if it doesn't serve the people in the

975
00:52:41,200 --> 00:52:44,799
Speaker 1: best way or serve sadly, how the president digests news

976
00:52:45,200 --> 00:52:47,360
Speaker 1: in the most effective way. Yeah, and news an entertainment

977
00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:49,960
Speaker 1: have gotten way too close to each other and obviously

978
00:52:50,040 --> 00:52:52,359
Speaker 1: for profit news right, so then it's like I can't

979
00:52:52,360 --> 00:52:55,000
Speaker 1: really tell the difference anymore. I remember reading a paper

980
00:52:55,040 --> 00:52:56,640
Speaker 1: and like, even the New York Times is getting a

981
00:52:56,680 --> 00:53:01,160
Speaker 1: little like, oh yeah, right wing weird doing. They did

982
00:53:01,239 --> 00:53:04,200
Speaker 1: an expose on the bomber in Austin and it was

983
00:53:04,800 --> 00:53:07,400
Speaker 1: it was so endearing. I was like, what is this

984
00:53:07,560 --> 00:53:12,200
Speaker 1: thinking about? Like black victims are criminals and white criminals

985
00:53:12,320 --> 00:53:15,880
Speaker 1: are like dream he loved Taco Bell and like what

986
00:53:17,160 --> 00:53:19,440
Speaker 1: why who? But somebody has to get off on this,

987
00:53:19,520 --> 00:53:21,880
Speaker 1: Maybe the country gets off on like because we do

988
00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:24,120
Speaker 1: like true crime shows and stuff like that. So maybe

989
00:53:24,160 --> 00:53:26,040
Speaker 1: it is one of those where people think like, oh,

990
00:53:26,160 --> 00:53:28,480
Speaker 1: if we humanize this like sick ass person, it's like

991
00:53:29,120 --> 00:53:31,719
Speaker 1: interesting without without taking into account the cost of that

992
00:53:31,920 --> 00:53:34,480
Speaker 1: of being like, oh, this is how we're portraying these

993
00:53:34,560 --> 00:53:37,960
Speaker 1: kinds of people and giving them the attention and all that. Yeah,

994
00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:44,000
Speaker 1: people are inherently like have that uh morbid curiosity about

995
00:53:44,400 --> 00:53:47,920
Speaker 1: the people the mass shooter, the bomber, and you know

996
00:53:48,200 --> 00:53:50,600
Speaker 1: we want to see a show about them on Netflix. Ya,

997
00:53:50,719 --> 00:53:52,359
Speaker 1: I mean, and I am like, I'm curious, Like when

998
00:53:52,400 --> 00:53:54,759
Speaker 1: people are like, have the gumption to murder other people,

999
00:53:55,040 --> 00:53:57,359
Speaker 1: I am a little curious about them. Well, right, because

1000
00:53:57,400 --> 00:53:59,360
Speaker 1: I think most people are like I can never do that.

1001
00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:02,840
Speaker 1: Will drave somebody to that point, right, But it's not.

1002
00:54:03,040 --> 00:54:05,400
Speaker 1: I don't think the way that they write is healthy

1003
00:54:05,520 --> 00:54:09,439
Speaker 1: or useful, but I get it. Yeah. Anyways, I hope

1004
00:54:09,480 --> 00:54:15,600
Speaker 1: you've enjoyed our ed driven infotainment podcast, Yeah, the Daily

1005
00:54:15,719 --> 00:54:19,560
Speaker 1: Zeitgeist Lacy. It has been a pleasure having you as always,

1006
00:54:19,840 --> 00:54:22,319
Speaker 1: Uh what are you up to? Where can people find you? Oh?

1007
00:54:22,680 --> 00:54:25,680
Speaker 1: You can find me on Instagram at d I v

1008
00:54:25,880 --> 00:54:28,640
Speaker 1: A l A c I Diva Lacey or my comedy

1009
00:54:28,719 --> 00:54:32,040
Speaker 1: Instagram Diva Rance um Oh, I host a show called

1010
00:54:32,120 --> 00:54:36,080
Speaker 1: chap Prov at uc B Franklin. Um. The next one's Midnight,

1011
00:54:36,160 --> 00:54:42,920
Speaker 1: April's Super Fun Come Out Get Ratchet Miles came last time. Yea,

1012
00:54:43,040 --> 00:54:46,719
Speaker 1: I love it. I love it. I loved it. It's

1013
00:54:46,760 --> 00:54:50,440
Speaker 1: the most not white improv show I've been to. Like

1014
00:54:50,600 --> 00:54:52,600
Speaker 1: it feels different, you know what I mean, like you

1015
00:54:52,719 --> 00:54:55,480
Speaker 1: know the vibe of like most improv shows and this one.

1016
00:54:55,600 --> 00:54:58,560
Speaker 1: It's such a fun show. Come guys, live, band, live DJ.

1017
00:54:59,160 --> 00:55:02,480
Speaker 1: It's very fun. We always have a great snacks. Oh

1018
00:55:02,640 --> 00:55:06,640
Speaker 1: I got wrap snacks or them on Amazon and they

1019
00:55:06,680 --> 00:55:08,799
Speaker 1: were pricey, but we're going to be giving them away.

1020
00:55:10,239 --> 00:55:15,399
Speaker 1: Wrap snacks are like rapper. Yeah. So like Megos came out.

1021
00:55:15,480 --> 00:55:18,439
Speaker 1: What have you ever heard that song with a daba range? Yeah,

1022
00:55:18,920 --> 00:55:22,080
Speaker 1: we're really really really ranch. Yeah. Well that like they're

1023
00:55:22,080 --> 00:55:24,400
Speaker 1: referencing the wrap snacks. So like Megos has like a

1024
00:55:24,600 --> 00:55:28,520
Speaker 1: dab of ranch ranch snack and like, uh, somebody has

1025
00:55:28,560 --> 00:55:31,560
Speaker 1: like honey barbecue. I think that's Trina. Like Fetty Wap

1026
00:55:31,640 --> 00:55:34,560
Speaker 1: has a flavor, Like they all have different flavors. I

1027
00:55:34,600 --> 00:55:38,280
Speaker 1: think has he has honey haapeno? Yeah, the guy from Atlanta.

1028
00:55:38,880 --> 00:55:42,240
Speaker 1: The paper Boy character just got some rap snack flavor

1029
00:55:42,960 --> 00:55:45,719
Speaker 1: Little Romeo, Yeah, a little Romeo, Like they bring back

1030
00:55:45,880 --> 00:55:48,239
Speaker 1: lots of random people that you're like, Okay, I guess

1031
00:55:48,360 --> 00:55:50,080
Speaker 1: you can have a flavor too. It's not like the

1032
00:55:50,160 --> 00:55:55,239
Speaker 1: biggest rappers someone big, but some are just rappers. But yeah,

1033
00:55:55,440 --> 00:55:57,719
Speaker 1: so we'll be giving those away and stuff. But yeah,

1034
00:55:58,040 --> 00:56:02,000
Speaker 1: those are those are the place. I don't know, I

1035
00:56:02,040 --> 00:56:03,600
Speaker 1: don't know what's going on. I haven't heard a lot

1036
00:56:03,640 --> 00:56:05,000
Speaker 1: out of him. And then if you're in l A,

1037
00:56:05,080 --> 00:56:09,239
Speaker 1: you see be Franklin or Sunset Maud or Harold Knight,

1038
00:56:09,320 --> 00:56:14,160
Speaker 1: come see me a mama early boy Boom boom miles. Uh. Yeah.

1039
00:56:14,200 --> 00:56:17,000
Speaker 1: Before I give anybody my social media accounts, I want

1040
00:56:17,080 --> 00:56:20,480
Speaker 1: to shout out James, the homie from the Zeit Game

1041
00:56:20,760 --> 00:56:24,200
Speaker 1: at Pizzana Restaurant. You know, so a few months I

1042
00:56:24,239 --> 00:56:25,320
Speaker 1: think it was a month or two ago, it was

1043
00:56:25,440 --> 00:56:27,040
Speaker 1: National Pizza Day and Jack and I were talking about

1044
00:56:27,040 --> 00:56:29,000
Speaker 1: the best pizza and then he came on Twitters like, bro,

1045
00:56:29,120 --> 00:56:31,040
Speaker 1: you gotta come check out this restaurant because this is

1046
00:56:31,080 --> 00:56:35,200
Speaker 1: the best pizza. Jack and I go Saturday and it

1047
00:56:35,560 --> 00:56:38,920
Speaker 1: was a minor miracle. We agree with the l a

1048
00:56:38,960 --> 00:56:41,800
Speaker 1: Times food critic Jonathan Gold, who called the pizza a

1049
00:56:41,880 --> 00:56:48,120
Speaker 1: minor miracle. It was really fucking good. Uh yeah, And James, uh,

1050
00:56:48,800 --> 00:56:53,120
Speaker 1: big zite guys fan, super nice guy. Uh so you

1051
00:56:53,239 --> 00:56:55,520
Speaker 1: heard it here first guys, The Daily Ze Guys can

1052
00:56:55,640 --> 00:56:59,080
Speaker 1: be bought and sold for us. Nice ship. Uh. We

1053
00:56:59,360 --> 00:57:01,560
Speaker 1: will take it, mantage of it and then shout you up.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah. And also, if you're looking for me on

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Speaker 1: Twitter and Instagram, it's at miles of great miles of.

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Speaker 1: You can find me at Jack under Square O'Brien on Twitter.

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Speaker 1: You can find us at Daily's Eye Guys on Twitter.

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Speaker 1: We're at the Daily's I Guys on Instagram. We have

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Speaker 1: a Facebook fan page, and we have a website Daily

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Speaker 1: I Guess dot com where we post our episodes and

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Speaker 1: our foot Nope, we link off to the information and

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Speaker 1: things that were mentioned in today's episode. Uh, that is

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Speaker 1: going to do it for today. Miles. You have a

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Speaker 1: song to link? Yeah, you just want to just a

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Speaker 1: fib instrumental track by Teebs, really amazing beatmaker producer. Uh,

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Speaker 1: this is a track called why like This? You know,

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Speaker 1: it's just got that little low fi fibe. I'm into

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Speaker 1: a little flying lotus vibes. Guys, just you know, relax,

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Speaker 1: it's Monday. Let's let's take this week on together. All right.

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Speaker 1: That's gonna do it for today. We will be back

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Speaker 1: tomorrow because it is a daily podcast. Talk you guys

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Speaker 1: up hap happen? Looking very