1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,000 Speaker 1: Do you think we're going to see troops in the streets. 2 00:00:02,480 --> 00:00:05,559 Speaker 2: I think you will see Trump attempt to federalize the 3 00:00:05,680 --> 00:00:10,400 Speaker 2: National Guard. Which is the first like critical cross road, 4 00:00:10,600 --> 00:00:12,960 Speaker 2: you know, might be January twentieth, he declares the state 5 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:15,680 Speaker 2: of emergency, says, the migrant crisis is out of control. 6 00:00:15,840 --> 00:00:18,960 Speaker 2: I'm federalizing all National Guard units. Now, what could happen 7 00:00:19,079 --> 00:00:23,319 Speaker 2: is every Republican National Guard governor, every Republican governor that 8 00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:25,160 Speaker 2: is the commander in chief of the National Guard, says, 9 00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:29,080 Speaker 2: no problem. Here's Alabama, no problem, Here's Florida. Now what 10 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:33,239 Speaker 2: happens in Illinois with Pritzker, What happens in Maryland with 11 00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:36,720 Speaker 2: Wes Moore? Do those governors say no, they say you 12 00:00:36,760 --> 00:00:38,720 Speaker 2: can't have my National Guard? Do they fight it out 13 00:00:38,720 --> 00:00:40,600 Speaker 2: in the courts and then take it all the way down? 14 00:00:40,920 --> 00:00:43,640 Speaker 2: What happens to the National Guard soldiers. 15 00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:48,040 Speaker 1: If he federalizes it statutorily? Right, there's he's the commander 16 00:00:48,080 --> 00:00:50,080 Speaker 1: in chief. He's got them, he's federalized. 17 00:00:50,360 --> 00:00:52,839 Speaker 2: Take it the next step down. Now you say, okay, 18 00:00:53,040 --> 00:00:55,320 Speaker 2: Maryland National Guard troops, you're going to be deployed to 19 00:00:55,360 --> 00:00:58,280 Speaker 2: round up let's say extreme example, like round up kids, 20 00:00:58,320 --> 00:01:01,200 Speaker 2: migrant kids. Number of them are going to say no, 21 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 2: some numbers of them are gonna say this is I think 22 00:01:03,720 --> 00:01:06,520 Speaker 2: this is an unlawful order. I am not going I'll 23 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:08,720 Speaker 2: go to jail. So now you've got the military not 24 00:01:08,760 --> 00:01:11,800 Speaker 2: only rounding up kids, but jailing a certain number of 25 00:01:12,160 --> 00:01:15,280 Speaker 2: their own people who are now in conflict with what 26 00:01:15,319 --> 00:01:17,280 Speaker 2: Trump will argue is is a lawful order. 27 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:18,480 Speaker 1: They will argue it's not. 28 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:20,200 Speaker 2: And I bring it all back to this deed because 29 00:01:20,440 --> 00:01:23,880 Speaker 2: Ross Perrot once famously said something like he wanted a 30 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:26,000 Speaker 2: monument in front of the White House that said, first 31 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:29,120 Speaker 2: commit the country, then commit the troops. If you thought 32 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:32,640 Speaker 2: Araq divided people, imagine what it's like when you federalize 33 00:01:32,720 --> 00:01:34,840 Speaker 2: National Guard troops on the migrant crisis. 34 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:37,040 Speaker 1: This is Kent State on steroids. 35 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:39,200 Speaker 2: And that's why when people say is there going to 36 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:41,640 Speaker 2: be a civil war, I don't know. I think more importantly, 37 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:45,040 Speaker 2: there's going to be a constitutional crisis around how and 38 00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:47,240 Speaker 2: when to use the military. And if you've got Pete 39 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:50,600 Speaker 2: Hegsett there and a bunch of undersecretaries who are willing 40 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:53,000 Speaker 2: to do it, and you've got all the senior leadership 41 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:55,120 Speaker 2: gone because he's fired the chairman of the joint chiefs, 42 00:01:55,160 --> 00:01:57,880 Speaker 2: and everybody else who hasn't taken a loyalty test. You've 43 00:01:57,880 --> 00:01:59,800 Speaker 2: got a steam roll that can. 44 00:01:59,720 --> 00:02:02,440 Speaker 1: Start this is this is really the heart of what 45 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:04,880 Speaker 1: I what I wanna, what I want to talk to 46 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:11,359 Speaker 1: you about right today. So what will happen is Trump 47 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:15,640 Speaker 1: will get in there day one. He's going to parton 48 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:22,880 Speaker 1: everybody who was convicted of an offense on January sixth, 49 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:30,200 Speaker 1: with the exception I suspect of the hardcore violent seditious 50 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:34,160 Speaker 1: extreme ASTs like Stuart Rhodes, the guy with the iPad, 51 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:36,680 Speaker 1: and the guys who they have on tape. Right, but 52 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:39,600 Speaker 1: but possible, but but but these people will come out 53 00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:44,880 Speaker 1: and they'll they'll be celebrated. He will execute that transband 54 00:02:44,919 --> 00:02:48,680 Speaker 1: that you talked about in the in the military and 55 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:52,600 Speaker 1: uh he will use it politically as a as a 56 00:02:52,639 --> 00:02:57,280 Speaker 1: wedge issue. He will also set about firing the senior 57 00:02:57,400 --> 00:03:00,920 Speaker 1: leadership of the military in a fire Chairman of Detroit, 58 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 1: Chiefs of Staff, an Air Force four star. He's going 59 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:08,880 Speaker 1: to fire the Chief and Naval Operations, the first woman 60 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:14,240 Speaker 1: to rise to that level in the United States Navy. 61 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:18,920 Speaker 1: All of these people will be gone and make an 62 00:03:18,919 --> 00:03:19,880 Speaker 1: example out of them too. 63 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:22,760 Speaker 2: Sty which is key because right now, I have lots 64 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:25,000 Speaker 2: of friends in the Pentagon who've worked on a number 65 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:27,880 Speaker 2: of controversial issues. And this is really really important for 66 00:03:27,880 --> 00:03:30,680 Speaker 2: people understand. Not only will he fire them, he'll probably 67 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:34,480 Speaker 2: put him on blast. So Colonel Snuffy, who I don't know, 68 00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:36,680 Speaker 2: for example, was a part of the crew that changed 69 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:40,480 Speaker 2: the names of military bases from Confederate Leaders to non 70 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:43,600 Speaker 2: Confederate Leaders. Right, they're all on Tucker Carlson's list. Now 71 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:46,240 Speaker 2: their names are out there, they've been publicly outed. Right, 72 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 2: they're out of the military. They have no more salary, 73 00:03:48,440 --> 00:03:51,920 Speaker 2: they don't have publics, they don't have security for their families. Right, 74 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:55,480 Speaker 2: they all become General Millie, they all become fauci and 75 00:03:55,920 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 2: that is a very dangerous thing. But it's also got 76 00:03:58,440 --> 00:04:01,600 Speaker 2: a chilling effect across not the military, but every other 77 00:04:01,760 --> 00:04:03,280 Speaker 2: organization of course. 78 00:04:03,760 --> 00:04:06,880 Speaker 1: Yeah. Right, So how deep do you have to go 79 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:09,080 Speaker 1: or you not have to go so deep at all 80 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:13,240 Speaker 1: for ambition to take root? How you know? I mean, 81 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:19,120 Speaker 1: what MacArthur posited right to the class of nineteen sixty 82 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:21,920 Speaker 1: six when they were freshmen at West Point was the 83 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:26,080 Speaker 1: long gray line has never failed us, duty, honor country. 84 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:30,480 Speaker 1: So you make a mockery right of all of these virtues, 85 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:33,359 Speaker 1: all of these standards, all of these ethics. With the 86 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:37,880 Speaker 1: hag Seth nomination, you also have the reality that you 87 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:40,839 Speaker 1: have somebody who says, atop a chain of command involving 88 00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:47,599 Speaker 1: nuclear weapons that levels below him regarding their release, that say, 89 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 1: the six I'm the captain of a nuclear ballistic missile submarine. 90 00:04:53,240 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 1: Nobody who had the problematic drinking that hag Seth has 91 00:04:58,480 --> 00:05:01,360 Speaker 1: would be allowed to be the captain of a submarine. 92 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:05,760 Speaker 1: And the Navy, for example, is different than the Army culturally, 93 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 1: and that the Navy relieve senior commanders captains of ships 94 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:14,680 Speaker 1: all the time very difficult right to get relieved as 95 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:20,000 Speaker 1: the brigade commander of an active duty Army unit, judging 96 00:05:20,040 --> 00:05:23,160 Speaker 1: by the numbers, not so much in the Navy, not 97 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:26,200 Speaker 1: so much in the Marine Corps, but in these services, 98 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:30,560 Speaker 1: two of which that have the standards for you can't 99 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:34,279 Speaker 1: do those things or you're out. You have an Army 100 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:37,479 Speaker 1: captain it was promoted to major at the end of 101 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:41,560 Speaker 1: his service in the National Guard, who has gone to 102 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:47,920 Speaker 1: none of the upper military level graduate schools, has no 103 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:56,360 Speaker 1: core competency in the diplomacy, the strategy, the nuclear deterrents, doctrines, 104 00:05:56,880 --> 00:06:01,200 Speaker 1: none of it. He's a Fox News morning host who 105 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:05,760 Speaker 1: is going to be put forward by Trump, who in 106 00:06:05,839 --> 00:06:09,919 Speaker 1: the Trumpian way, Trump is not all in on this guy. 107 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:14,160 Speaker 1: He's letting him swim a little bit and watching it, 108 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:18,640 Speaker 1: watching it go out. I have a seventeen I have 109 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:22,880 Speaker 1: an eighteen year old son who is very seriously thinking 110 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:27,520 Speaker 1: about I'm thinking about going in the Navy right right 111 00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:30,600 Speaker 1: out of high school. He's like, I'll go to college later. 112 00:06:31,839 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 1: And my position is on this over my dead fucking body, 113 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:47,000 Speaker 1: if if, if the US senators are so disrespectful, so 114 00:06:47,279 --> 00:06:55,200 Speaker 1: fucking careless, so profoundly indifferent, that you can't get four 115 00:06:55,279 --> 00:07:00,760 Speaker 1: of somewhere in the middle to be like, yeah, no, 116 00:07:01,960 --> 00:07:05,919 Speaker 1: the fuck out of here, not this guy, no way, 117 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:10,680 Speaker 1: no how, not her, and not the whack job at 118 00:07:10,720 --> 00:07:20,720 Speaker 1: the FBI. Because if they do get through, as you say, right, 119 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:27,400 Speaker 1: the orders will be conveyed and they'll be expressed to 120 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:31,200 Speaker 1: the command structure of the military through the Secretary as 121 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:36,080 Speaker 1: a legal order. He's the job of the Secretary to 122 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:39,680 Speaker 1: be the first line of defense to say no, that's 123 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:45,240 Speaker 1: in a legal order. What you talked about is I 124 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:50,480 Speaker 1: think the very chilling scenario, which is he calls to 125 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:54,640 Speaker 1: active duty National Guard troops and no one can stop 126 00:07:54,720 --> 00:08:03,360 Speaker 1: that taking and you have a deployment of Red State 127 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:08,520 Speaker 1: National Guard into bluestates. I don't know if they'll do that. 128 00:08:08,520 --> 00:08:10,560 Speaker 2: That's the question, right, Like that's these are the kind 129 00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:14,160 Speaker 2: of questions, right, And that's where we don't know. I think, 130 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:16,239 Speaker 2: you know, if I can pause there for a second, 131 00:08:16,320 --> 00:08:19,000 Speaker 2: number one, Like, you know, I'm getting a lot of 132 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:21,160 Speaker 2: those phone calls right now, Hey, my son or daughter's 133 00:08:21,200 --> 00:08:22,920 Speaker 2: thinking about joy and what would you tell them? I'd say, 134 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:25,360 Speaker 2: first of all, if he or she is seventeen, it's 135 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:25,920 Speaker 2: not up to you. 136 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:27,440 Speaker 1: They can do it on their own. 137 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 2: And so you're right, you got to hope that you 138 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:32,680 Speaker 2: laid the foundation and they're gonna make the right choices. 139 00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:35,240 Speaker 2: But I think it's it's the right question because when 140 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:37,520 Speaker 2: you talk about all these nominees, I would give them 141 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:40,960 Speaker 2: what I've called the school principal test. You know, would 142 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:43,280 Speaker 2: you be okay with Pete hag Seth or Cash Bettel 143 00:08:43,480 --> 00:08:46,120 Speaker 2: or any number of them being the school principle for 144 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:49,440 Speaker 2: your seventeen year old daughter and I'm using daughter specifically, right, 145 00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:52,319 Speaker 2: would you be okay with that person being the principal 146 00:08:52,760 --> 00:08:56,280 Speaker 2: of your seventeen year old daughter's school. If not, why 147 00:08:56,320 --> 00:08:58,880 Speaker 2: are you okay with that person being the command or 148 00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:01,000 Speaker 2: the leader of your set seventeen year old daughter in 149 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:01,760 Speaker 2: the Marine Corps. 150 00:09:01,960 --> 00:09:03,280 Speaker 1: Because that's what we're that's what. 151 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:04,960 Speaker 2: We're offering them up to do. It's not like they're 152 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:07,319 Speaker 2: just gonna run a Walmart here. I mean, they are 153 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:13,840 Speaker 2: the moral, functional, bureaucratic leader that your kids, those especially 154 00:09:13,840 --> 00:09:16,280 Speaker 2: that have kids in the service, you know, are gonna 155 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:17,960 Speaker 2: have to look to. But I think there's a bigger 156 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:20,160 Speaker 2: thing here, Steve, when we talk about all these elements, 157 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:22,920 Speaker 2: I do'n't think the Democrats realize how bad they've lost, 158 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:25,719 Speaker 2: Like this is so much gone, right, because it's not 159 00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:29,360 Speaker 2: just the institutions like MSNBC that you and I are 160 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:32,559 Speaker 2: on all the time, Right, it's so tiny, and CNN 161 00:09:32,679 --> 00:09:35,240 Speaker 2: is so irrelevant and though and they could be gone 162 00:09:35,280 --> 00:09:38,360 Speaker 2: gobbled up by Elon in three months or a year. 163 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:38,640 Speaker 1: Right. 164 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:42,680 Speaker 2: They they're losing in the media, they've lost all three chambers. 165 00:09:42,760 --> 00:09:46,320 Speaker 2: They're losing in fundraising, they're losing on sports, they're losing 166 00:09:46,360 --> 00:09:50,559 Speaker 2: on culture, they're losing on gender. They've lost so many things. 167 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:53,680 Speaker 2: That you have to understand that because they're all interconnected. 168 00:09:53,880 --> 00:09:56,920 Speaker 2: Because when I say he's gonna fire generals, he's not 169 00:09:57,000 --> 00:09:57,840 Speaker 2: just gonna fire him. 170 00:09:58,040 --> 00:10:01,440 Speaker 1: They're gonna be on Elon's Twitter feed, right. And the 171 00:10:01,559 --> 00:10:02,080 Speaker 1: level of. 172 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:04,880 Speaker 2: Intimidation and the way this whole flywheel is going to 173 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:10,200 Speaker 2: kick in is really faster and more dangerous, I think 174 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:12,440 Speaker 2: than most people realize. So when people say, oh, Fox 175 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:15,040 Speaker 2: News host, that's kind of who you want for this 176 00:10:15,160 --> 00:10:18,080 Speaker 2: moment because he knows how to pull all those levers. 177 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:22,040 Speaker 2: Ptex set again ran political organizations that were funded by 178 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:25,120 Speaker 2: dedicated donors that invested in PTEX at twenty years ago. 179 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:27,840 Speaker 2: They built him for this moment, and then he had 180 00:10:28,040 --> 00:10:31,920 Speaker 2: a corresponding seat at Fox. So when the Republicans wanted 181 00:10:31,960 --> 00:10:35,199 Speaker 2: to bang on Obama about the VA and they wanted 182 00:10:35,240 --> 00:10:37,320 Speaker 2: to punish the Democrats and make them look weak on 183 00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:40,600 Speaker 2: national security, Hex has been doing it for years on Fox. 184 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:42,760 Speaker 2: So this is an example of how it can all 185 00:10:42,800 --> 00:10:43,440 Speaker 2: come together. 186 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:46,959 Speaker 1: I'm Steve Schmidt. This is the warning, and I invite 187 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:51,240 Speaker 1: you to join. Subscribe on our substack on our YouTube channel, 188 00:10:51,400 --> 00:10:53,439 Speaker 1: follow us. Welcome to the community.