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Speaker 1: I've ever been left waiting by the phone. It's the

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Speaker 1: Fred Show. Sidney, Welcome to the show. How are you hi?

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Speaker 2: I'm well, how are you doing?

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Speaker 3: Okay?

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Speaker 1: What's going on with this guy?

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Speaker 3: Paul?

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Speaker 1: Tell us everything? How did you guys meet? Tell us

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Speaker 1: about any dates you've been on, and then why do

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Speaker 2: Awesome?

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Speaker 4: So Paul and I met at a bar a few

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Speaker 4: weekends ago. We flirted all night. I gave him my number,

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Speaker 4: and he asked me out for sushi. So this is

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Speaker 4: probably about our second third date. It was fun, he

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Speaker 4: seemed intriguing.

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Speaker 2: We had a great banter, and after our date, the

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Speaker 2: sushi date, he ended up being cold to me. I'm

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Speaker 2: frustrated because I don't know why he was so cold

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Speaker 2: to me. And after that date he kind of just disappeared.

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Speaker 2: So I'm here to figure out why why he ghost

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Speaker 2: to me. After our date, I thought it went well.

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Speaker 2: I'm really interested in him and I want to know

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Speaker 2: if we can go on the second date.

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Speaker 1: Okay, all right, because you met you met in a

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Speaker 1: wild and we talk about this all the time. That matters, right,

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Speaker 1: if you meet somebody in person, that mattered versus the

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Speaker 1: dating apps or the websites or whatever, because you can

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Speaker 1: that's usually a good sign. And then you go on

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Speaker 1: a date and you can just spend more time together.

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Speaker 1: And you felt, genuinely, you felt like that went well,

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Speaker 1: You like you're really puzzled.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, exactly. I'm really frustrated. I'm really confused as

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Speaker 2: to why he would just disappear, and I'm even more

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Speaker 2: confused as to why he was so cold to me.

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Speaker 2: We had great banter.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And it's frustrating too, because when you finally meet

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Speaker 1: for some reason they disappear and you don't know why. Uh,

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Speaker 1: that's frustrating on a lot of levels. So let's call

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Speaker 1: this guy Paul in just a second, Sydney. You'll be

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Speaker 1: on the phone at the same time. And I don't

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Speaker 1: want you to say anything right at first, but at

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Speaker 1: some point you're welcome to jump in on the call.

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Speaker 1: And the hope, as always is that we can figure

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Speaker 1: out what's going on. Hopefully it's he can explain it,

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Speaker 1: and maybe he's been busy or who knows, and we'll

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Speaker 1: set you guys up on another date that we pay for.

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Speaker 3: Sound good, sounds great?

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Speaker 2: Thank you.

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Speaker 1: Let's see what happens next. Part two of What the

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Speaker 1: Phone after this song on The Fred Show. Good morning,

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Speaker 1: It's the Fred Show. Part two of Waiting by the Phone. Hey, Sydney,

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Speaker 1: all right, welcome back. Let's call this guy.

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Speaker 2: Paul.

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Speaker 1: You met actually out and exchange phone numbers, and then

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Speaker 1: you went on a date. You went out for sushi.

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Speaker 1: You thought the date was fun. You know, he was interesting,

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Speaker 1: the banter was good. But he's been very cold or

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Speaker 1: non existent since the date. And you want to know

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Speaker 1: what happened because you know, usually when he meets someone

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Speaker 1: well at that, it's like, well, why wouldn't we keep talking,

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Speaker 1: why wouldn't we go out again? Right? Let's call this

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Speaker 1: guy and figure this out right now? Good luck, Sydney,

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Speaker 1: Thank you? No is this Paul? Yes, hey Paul, good morning.

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Speaker 1: My name is Fred. I'm calling for the Fred Show,

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Speaker 1: the morning radio show, and I have to tell you

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Speaker 1: which at just a second? Would you mind?

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Speaker 3: Wait? What hold on? What is that?

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Speaker 1: Can we just can we chat for a second on

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Speaker 1: the radio. I just need you to say yes on

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Speaker 3: I don't know, I guess.

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Speaker 1: Okay, yes, yes, thank you. So we're calling on behalf

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, how do you know? How do you know?

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Speaker 1: Okay, Well, because she reached out to us and and

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Speaker 3: So is that true? Are you ghosting? I mean, what happened?

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Speaker 3: Ah man, that's a lot.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yes, I know. I mean, I'm not trying to

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Speaker 3: I'm going to be honest with you.

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Speaker 5: It's a weird date. And I mean that you're you're right,

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Speaker 5: you're accurate. What you said is true. We went out

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Speaker 5: well what does that mean? Oh well there's okay. Well

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Speaker 5: I was getting there Sydney, but Sydney is here. I'm sorry, Paul,

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Speaker 5: I forgot to mention that. I totally forgot that. She

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Speaker 5: So what was weird for you?

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Speaker 3: No, it was totally weird. I was telling her.

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Speaker 5: So I'm helping out one of my friends through like

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Speaker 5: And so it's been really hard for my buddy, and

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Speaker 3: Allowed to cheat. My man's allowed to cheat as long

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Speaker 3: as long as he's respectful. And she was respect like,

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Speaker 3: how do I respectfully cheat.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I guess there's there's respectful boundaries or respectful

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Speaker 3: Yep, yep, yep. And so I told her.

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Speaker 5: She told me this, and I just looked at her

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Speaker 5: and I said, you're you're describing like an open relationship

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Speaker 5: I think it's kind of disrespectful for you to dismiss

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Speaker 3: And she was just adamant.

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Speaker 5: She goes, no, no, no, like cheating is fine, It's

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Speaker 3: She just kept saying respectful, respect, respectful respect. Okay, I

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Speaker 1: Well let me ask Sydney, why, how what is respectful cheating?

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Speaker 2: Well, I think all men cheat. I just don't want

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Speaker 2: one is mine. You know what you're doing. I think

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Speaker 3: That's why.

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Speaker 1: Let me just be clear, Sidney, if I'm dating you,

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Speaker 1: I'm respecting you by sleeping with other women and not

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Speaker 3: Yes, yes, who hurt you? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Like who hurt you.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I don't see.

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Speaker 2: A problem with it. I think as long as you

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Speaker 2: that you don't tell me anything about it, that's perfectly fine.

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Speaker 2: I don't want to know about it. I don't want

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Speaker 1: Is this because lord? Is this because you want to cheat? Sydney?

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Speaker 1: Like it is it that you want to be in

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Speaker 1: it's okay for your partner, then is it okay for you?

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Speaker 3: Is that what you're saying?

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, I am so.

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Speaker 1: Then why don't we just call.

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Speaker 3: This what it is?

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Speaker 1: It's an open relationship. Why don't we just say from

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Speaker 1: want your partner to be able to see other people.

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Speaker 1: Why are we calling it cheating?

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Speaker 3: Then?

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Speaker 1: If this is what your expectation is of a relationship,

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Speaker 1: that's not cheating, respectfully, that's an open relationship. And I

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Speaker 2: I think it's more fun to be ambiguous. I think

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Speaker 2: it's more fun to call it cheating respectfully and to

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Speaker 2: not have any labels whatsoever, and then to go out

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Speaker 2: I could go out and do anything I want.

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Speaker 3: Sydney, it's I'm still on the phone too. Thanks.

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Speaker 5: You're having the same conversation with him that you were

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Speaker 5: having with me. You are not listening, Like, first of all,

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Speaker 3: I don't cheat.

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Speaker 5: And I like to go into a relationship with saying

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Speaker 5: I'm going to respect you by not sleeping with a

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Speaker 5: million other women while I'm seeing you. And again, like Sidney,

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Speaker 5: you're you're just confused or maybe you're hurt.

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Speaker 3: I don't, I don't know.

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Speaker 5: But you're you looking for an open relationship and I

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Speaker 5: hope you find it, I truly do, but you're not

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Speaker 5: going to find it with me, you'll probably find it

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Speaker 5: with I don't.

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Speaker 3: Know two or three other guys.

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Speaker 5: If I'm being completely.

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Speaker 1: Honest, I just I don't think that's a it's at

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Speaker 1: You're looking for an open relationship. It's that simple. This

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Speaker 1: sole cheating thing. Is that like a fantasy of yours? Like,

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Speaker 1: are you into the idea of someone sneaking around on you?

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Speaker 1: Or does that keep you on your toes like that

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Speaker 2: I live with the thrill of it. Yeah, I definitely

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Speaker 2: live for the thrill of it. I love the idea

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Speaker 2: of it more than I would say I would. I

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Speaker 2: don't know's how to think, but I could say that

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Speaker 2: if I'm going into a relationship or as you were

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Speaker 2: all saying, an open relationship, still, I wouldn't want anybody

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Speaker 2: to tell me what's going on. I still stand by

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Speaker 2: the fact that all men and cheat. I just don't

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Speaker 2: want to know about it.

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Speaker 1: Okay, well he doesn't, and he's saying he wants a

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Speaker 3: Kay, caseaid these people straight.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I'm here for her if she wants if

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Speaker 2: she wants to live her life this way, girl living,

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Speaker 2: But what you're gonna get is a trip to the clinic.

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Speaker 3: Okay. If you don't want people to be honest with

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Speaker 3: you about what they're doing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's an Yeah, that's a that's a whole different topic.

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Speaker 1: Is Yeah, I feel like you're asking for problems here

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Speaker 1: without the transparency. And you got to know, Cidy, Look,

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Speaker 1: you can live however you want to live and whatever,

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Speaker 1: you know, whatever gets your rocks off, good for you.

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Speaker 1: But you've got to understand a lot of people are

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Speaker 1: not going to be into that. Like a lot of

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Speaker 1: people's definition of a relationship, and I'm not saying it's

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Speaker 1: right or wrong, but I think most people's definition of

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Speaker 1: a committed relationship is one on one, not one on

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Speaker 1: one plus cheating.

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Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, that's fair. I got that. I honestly, I

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Speaker 2: think I'm personally right in what I'm saying, Okay, and

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Speaker 2: I'm going to stand by it. It's a lot.

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Speaker 1: I think you're probably right, but a lot of people

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Speaker 1: that love to cheat on you girl. All right, Well

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Speaker 1: it's not for Paul and it's not going to be

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Speaker 1: for everybody. And I guess city he's okay with that

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Speaker 1: and Sydney. There you have it. So he's got into that,

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Speaker 1: into those parameters. He wants something more traditional. You want

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Speaker 1: something different, and I hope that you find it. I

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Speaker 1: wish you the best of luck, Paul. I wish you

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Speaker 1: luck as well.

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Speaker 3: Thank thank you, appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: Thank you,