1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:03,960 Speaker 1: I listened to the Black Guy Who Tips podcast because 2 00:00:04,120 --> 00:00:08,760 Speaker 1: Rod and Karen are heart Hey, welcome to another episode 3 00:00:08,760 --> 00:00:13,760 Speaker 1: of the Blackout Tips podcast. Is your host Rod and Kenny? 4 00:00:13,960 --> 00:00:15,240 Speaker 2: Do you almost forget what you was at? 5 00:00:15,480 --> 00:00:19,400 Speaker 1: No, it's I do so much premium stuff. I honestly 6 00:00:19,560 --> 00:00:21,919 Speaker 1: was about to be like the premium network and I 7 00:00:21,960 --> 00:00:23,279 Speaker 1: was like, what premium show is this? 8 00:00:24,200 --> 00:00:24,360 Speaker 3: Yeah? 9 00:00:24,560 --> 00:00:27,080 Speaker 1: But what am I doing today? Oh? Wait, it's a 10 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:28,520 Speaker 1: recap of The Walking Dead. 11 00:00:28,720 --> 00:00:31,640 Speaker 2: Yes, you haven't working hard to pass we could do. 12 00:00:31,760 --> 00:00:34,280 Speaker 1: Okay, I do my thing over here, I try to 13 00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:34,839 Speaker 1: do something. 14 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:37,440 Speaker 2: All started to blend together. I understand. Yeah. 15 00:00:37,720 --> 00:00:39,960 Speaker 1: So I actually been trying to chill during the day 16 00:00:40,159 --> 00:00:42,720 Speaker 1: the last few days to give myself some time off. 17 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:46,480 Speaker 1: But you guys know how it is. At any rate, 18 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:53,920 Speaker 1: this is a Walking Dead Wednesday every day. Everybody's favorite well, 19 00:00:54,080 --> 00:00:55,600 Speaker 1: you know, the six of us who watch The Walking 20 00:00:55,640 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 1: Dead still our favorite episode of the week. Everybody else 21 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:02,800 Speaker 1: can get the day off that just want to hear 22 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:06,800 Speaker 1: about the coronavirus and all the terrible things happening in 23 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:09,240 Speaker 1: the world in the news, Like, nah, now we get 24 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:11,640 Speaker 1: a day Well, we just want to talk about this 25 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:16,640 Speaker 1: stupid ass show that we love. Okay, but yeah, so 26 00:01:16,720 --> 00:01:23,720 Speaker 1: it's Walking Dead recap time. This episode is episode thirteen 27 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:30,840 Speaker 1: of season ten. It's called What We Become. It's the 28 00:01:30,959 --> 00:01:33,120 Speaker 1: exit of the niagarea from the show. 29 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:36,559 Speaker 2: So this was a final episode. 30 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:42,199 Speaker 1: Yes. Before we get into it, though, Karen, I gotta 31 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:44,600 Speaker 1: ask you in general, what do you think about this episode? 32 00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:49,400 Speaker 2: Oh, this episode was excellent. I loved it. It's one 33 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:54,160 Speaker 2: of my favorite episodes in a long time because I 34 00:01:54,200 --> 00:02:01,520 Speaker 2: think the day gave Mishown justice. I really think that 35 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:04,160 Speaker 2: they did it right. Normally, they do it big, if 36 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:08,400 Speaker 2: you know, like because before and earlier seasons where people 37 00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:11,160 Speaker 2: died and you were like like heavy in the Cashu 38 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:14,440 Speaker 2: we have had like a big death scene and she 39 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:16,560 Speaker 2: didn't have a death scene. But they actually did a 40 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:20,160 Speaker 2: really good job of dedicating this episode to her. They 41 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:21,480 Speaker 2: took us down memory lane. 42 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:26,080 Speaker 1: I had ball for me personally. When I saw it 43 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:29,600 Speaker 1: the first time we watched it on Sunday, I didn't 44 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:31,800 Speaker 1: really like it that much. I actually was like, this 45 00:02:31,919 --> 00:02:35,359 Speaker 1: is kind of whack. This felt kind of like a 46 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:39,560 Speaker 1: redundant and Scott gimbal Ish and certain things I just 47 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:42,440 Speaker 1: didn't like about, you know, some of the some of 48 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:47,200 Speaker 1: the more liberties they took and all that stuff. But 49 00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 1: then what was funny is we watched Talking Dead and 50 00:02:51,160 --> 00:02:52,959 Speaker 1: or some of it, and then I and then I 51 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:55,679 Speaker 1: rewatched it today expecting to kind of be like, yeah, 52 00:02:55,720 --> 00:02:58,320 Speaker 1: I didn't really like it, but let me rewatch it. 53 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:00,560 Speaker 1: But I loved it so much more for the second 54 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:02,400 Speaker 1: time around, because I feel like I got what they 55 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:05,200 Speaker 1: were trying to do, because it was really more like 56 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 1: it was really more about saying goodbye to the Niagarera, 57 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:12,720 Speaker 1: who's done so much for this show. It was so 58 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:16,840 Speaker 1: iconic and needed a deserved like send off. She needed 59 00:03:16,919 --> 00:03:21,079 Speaker 1: like her own celebratory episode, and the things that it 60 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:24,520 Speaker 1: sets up for the future was so much more optimistic 61 00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:27,680 Speaker 1: and hopeful, and that's something we don't always get on 62 00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 1: this show. And so the second when when I rewatched it, 63 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:34,960 Speaker 1: I was like, this is this is actually amazing and 64 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:36,920 Speaker 1: getting to see her, you know, as an actress go 65 00:03:37,000 --> 00:04:07,520 Speaker 1: through all this. But let's get into the recap, guys. 66 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:14,040 Speaker 1: I also meant to mention one more thing. The other 67 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:16,839 Speaker 1: reason I think I couldn't really enjoy it the first 68 00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:18,360 Speaker 1: time is because I didn't know what the fuck was 69 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:21,040 Speaker 1: gonna happen to her. So once we've seen the end 70 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:23,719 Speaker 1: I was able to. I can watch it now now 71 00:04:23,760 --> 00:04:26,279 Speaker 1: watching it, I'm not nearly as like nerve wracked and 72 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:28,240 Speaker 1: all that ship as I was the first time. The 73 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 1: first time, I was just like, well, we know this 74 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:32,360 Speaker 1: her last episode. What are they gonna do? What does 75 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:34,919 Speaker 1: this mean? You know, They're gonna put her in a refrigerator, 76 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:36,919 Speaker 1: She's gonna get trapped in the well? Like what the 77 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:37,719 Speaker 1: fuck does this mean? 78 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:38,039 Speaker 4: You know? 79 00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:41,280 Speaker 1: So all right, let's get into the breakdown. Now, this 80 00:04:41,320 --> 00:04:44,960 Speaker 1: whole thing happens in one place. There are flashback sequences 81 00:04:45,160 --> 00:04:48,040 Speaker 1: kind of, but it fits into the story so neatly. 82 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:50,479 Speaker 1: I just went ahead and put it all in one location. 83 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:52,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, and you might as well just tell the story 84 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:53,400 Speaker 2: how it happens. 85 00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:58,080 Speaker 1: And I'm starting and I'm starting to feel like Angela 86 00:04:58,160 --> 00:05:00,719 Speaker 1: King has done such a good fucking job up the 87 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:03,599 Speaker 1: last few episodes. You noticed on our recaps it hasn't 88 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:06,960 Speaker 1: been like, Okay, well let's do the Woods, Okay, let's 89 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:10,400 Speaker 1: do Alexandria. It seemed like everything is streamlined more and 90 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:14,200 Speaker 1: more because things are starting to happen in one place 91 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 1: and that's it, you know, it's what happened in Hilltop 92 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:22,080 Speaker 1: and essentially it all blended in with the Whisper storyline 93 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:25,599 Speaker 1: so that I did not have to go to different locations. Yeah, 94 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:26,800 Speaker 1: I like that and. 95 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:31,000 Speaker 2: It's smart and I think that you know, I'm pretty 96 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:34,440 Speaker 2: sure she follows and she tracks shit. And it was 97 00:05:34,520 --> 00:05:37,359 Speaker 2: probably confusing to a lot of people. Once you have 98 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:39,560 Speaker 2: all these different locations, you're trying to blend them all 99 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:42,159 Speaker 2: into one episode versus this is some shit they probably 100 00:05:42,160 --> 00:05:44,760 Speaker 2: should have already been doing. Here's the episode for this one. 101 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:46,920 Speaker 2: Here's the episode for this one. Yes, we could show 102 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:49,159 Speaker 2: you had a tie, but we don't have to bounce 103 00:05:49,200 --> 00:05:52,200 Speaker 2: around to every episode every few seconds, every few minutes, 104 00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:53,560 Speaker 2: like we're telling the soap opera. 105 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:58,520 Speaker 1: Right, So let's get into the recaps. So we get 106 00:05:58,560 --> 00:06:02,520 Speaker 1: to the island. Y'all made it, y'all making it smaller 107 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:04,280 Speaker 1: because it's not coming up for a second. I'll try 108 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 1: to make a bigger one. We play it, but yeah, 109 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:10,120 Speaker 1: we get we get a flashback at the start. It's 110 00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:12,920 Speaker 1: a micheone and this old school micheon. I'm talking about 111 00:06:12,920 --> 00:06:16,120 Speaker 1: the brown like hooded hoodie thing. 112 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:18,080 Speaker 2: She had with the zombies chain. 113 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:21,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, the two zombies that like are I can't it's 114 00:06:21,120 --> 00:06:23,560 Speaker 1: like one of them was like her her man, and 115 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:26,040 Speaker 1: one was like her brother. Yeah. And so she was 116 00:06:26,120 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 1: walking so this is an old, old school like first 117 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:32,279 Speaker 1: met Micheon thing, and she's walking through the woods with 118 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:36,040 Speaker 1: that sword, killing zombies. She picks up some stray bullets 119 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:38,559 Speaker 1: that someone left on the ground, and then she looks 120 00:06:38,640 --> 00:06:41,880 Speaker 1: up and we hear somebody running fighting for their life 121 00:06:41,880 --> 00:06:44,520 Speaker 1: in the woods, and it flashes over there and it's 122 00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:49,000 Speaker 1: a blondhaired woman and it was so shocking and real. 123 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:52,480 Speaker 1: I honestly thought I missaw what I saw. I was like, 124 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:56,360 Speaker 1: is that Andrea? And I was like, Nah, that can't 125 00:06:56,360 --> 00:07:00,240 Speaker 1: be Andrew because Andrea's dead. And you know, I'm like, 126 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:05,039 Speaker 1: oh wait, is this the original flashback where Micheon saved Andrea, 127 00:07:05,279 --> 00:07:09,920 Speaker 1: except y'all in this version or whatever, Andrew gets killed. 128 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:12,360 Speaker 1: Andrew gets killed by these fucking zombies in the woods, 129 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:15,760 Speaker 1: and Micheon just keeps it moving, like, you know, you can't. 130 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:17,000 Speaker 1: No white people had to cook out. 131 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:20,080 Speaker 2: I saved the real white women today. 132 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, like you are cold? Okay, Like she was like, 133 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:29,040 Speaker 1: I don't know if y'all heard, like mask, I'm a womanist, okay, 134 00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:33,280 Speaker 1: not a feminist. And so that right there set the 135 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:35,440 Speaker 1: tone because it was like, because them as soon as 136 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:38,560 Speaker 1: like soon as she turned to walk off and let 137 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 1: Andrew get eat, it was and I'm like for a 138 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:45,480 Speaker 1: colde over. But I'm like, what fucking show is this? 139 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:48,400 Speaker 2: I was like, oh, she died. I was like, what 140 00:07:48,520 --> 00:07:49,160 Speaker 2: is happening to him? 141 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:52,760 Speaker 1: Like, that's not what happened at all. She doesn'etly saved Andrea. 142 00:07:53,080 --> 00:07:55,119 Speaker 1: I remember because at the time, you know, we hated 143 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:57,520 Speaker 1: Andrea and was like, why did you save her? You know, 144 00:07:57,960 --> 00:08:01,600 Speaker 1: like that was a whole fucking thing. So she saves Andrea, 145 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:06,120 Speaker 1: and then we get we cut back to the real 146 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:09,840 Speaker 1: world where they're hopping off of the boat. They're at 147 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:14,520 Speaker 1: the island Virgil and Michell, and Virgil is the most 148 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:19,240 Speaker 1: like taking the long scenic route ass nigga el. 149 00:08:19,800 --> 00:08:22,960 Speaker 2: He was like, we're gonna stop at all the stoplights, 150 00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:26,640 Speaker 2: all the street signs, were gonna go the most scenic 151 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:27,800 Speaker 2: of the scenic routes. 152 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:31,000 Speaker 1: He was like, listen, it's said, dude, thirty five in 153 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:33,439 Speaker 1: the thirty I'm doing thirty five miles per hour. That's 154 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:34,480 Speaker 1: what the same sign. 155 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:36,760 Speaker 2: I'm not going a mile over. 156 00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:40,760 Speaker 1: The speeding right to go around, go around, But on 157 00:08:40,840 --> 00:08:43,720 Speaker 1: your heart, I'm not speeding up. I'm driving, and if 158 00:08:43,760 --> 00:08:45,640 Speaker 1: you got something to say, I will pull this car. 159 00:08:45,679 --> 00:08:49,960 Speaker 1: I will turn this car around, mister. So he's like, 160 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:53,160 Speaker 1: follow me to the inlands. That's what my family is. 161 00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:55,680 Speaker 1: And she was like, nigga, fuck your family. What are 162 00:08:55,840 --> 00:08:58,679 Speaker 1: the fucking munitions? I want to blow shit up. I 163 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:00,840 Speaker 1: told you we got to kill these whispers. And then 164 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:03,280 Speaker 1: he's just like, man, these whispers really get in your 165 00:09:03,280 --> 00:09:07,080 Speaker 1: head on She's like, yes, remember you got your leg cut. 166 00:09:07,760 --> 00:09:09,280 Speaker 1: The whole thing was you want to get back to 167 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:11,839 Speaker 1: your family. I only let you go and use our 168 00:09:11,880 --> 00:09:15,440 Speaker 1: boat because we want the motherfucking munitions. Like why are 169 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:17,480 Speaker 1: you trying to act like this is like you knew 170 00:09:17,520 --> 00:09:17,920 Speaker 1: to this. 171 00:09:17,880 --> 00:09:20,200 Speaker 2: Deal, right, And it's one of those things too, And 172 00:09:20,240 --> 00:09:22,120 Speaker 2: he turned around the start talking to her. She put 173 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:23,920 Speaker 2: that not there, it's just like trying me. 174 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:27,320 Speaker 1: Well, not yet, not yet. So then Virgil stops to 175 00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 1: pick some flowers and herbs from a garden that his wife. 176 00:09:31,880 --> 00:09:34,160 Speaker 1: I guess it is his wife's garden. He's like, yeah, 177 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:35,960 Speaker 1: you know, my wife would kill me if I didn't 178 00:09:35,960 --> 00:09:37,960 Speaker 1: show up. If I showed up empty handed. She's like, 179 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:40,760 Speaker 1: I'm gonna kill you if you don't take me to 180 00:09:40,800 --> 00:09:44,079 Speaker 1: where the fucking weapons are. What is taking so long? 181 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:50,240 Speaker 1: And he's like, Chean's like, what about this building over here? 182 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:51,880 Speaker 1: Is that where the weapons said, He's like, no, that's 183 00:09:51,880 --> 00:09:55,559 Speaker 1: an old laboratory. There's nothing in there at all. It 184 00:09:55,600 --> 00:10:00,480 Speaker 1: was built in nineteen seventy two by the indigen servants. Right, 185 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:03,400 Speaker 1: He's like, and you know, don't go in there because 186 00:10:03,640 --> 00:10:06,079 Speaker 1: straight animals get in there and sometimes you know, it 187 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:08,600 Speaker 1: just it gets it's no lights in there at night. 188 00:10:08,679 --> 00:10:11,679 Speaker 1: So just whatever you do, definitely don't worry about that building. 189 00:10:11,800 --> 00:10:14,679 Speaker 2: And they build it brick by brick. If you want 190 00:10:14,720 --> 00:10:17,440 Speaker 2: me to, I can show you where they actually made 191 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:19,880 Speaker 2: the ingredients. 192 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:21,160 Speaker 1: For the bricks. I don't want to see this, right, 193 00:10:22,400 --> 00:10:25,040 Speaker 1: this is welcome to my tour of the island. Come out. 194 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:28,000 Speaker 1: They make it to a clearing and it's like a 195 00:10:28,040 --> 00:10:30,959 Speaker 1: play area that's set up over there, maybe like people 196 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:34,160 Speaker 1: would hang outside and sit by fire or something. Except 197 00:10:34,559 --> 00:10:37,280 Speaker 1: as he's talking, like you know, this is where I 198 00:10:37,320 --> 00:10:39,040 Speaker 1: forget his kid's name, but you know, like this is 199 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:42,920 Speaker 1: where Malcolm used to play outside all day and she 200 00:10:43,120 --> 00:10:45,480 Speaker 1: was and Micheau mentions like, you know, my kids will 201 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:49,160 Speaker 1: have a field day out here and he's like, yeah, well, 202 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:51,959 Speaker 1: you know, my child, he'd be up in the looking 203 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:55,840 Speaker 1: in those greenery silos, trying to find some bird treasure. 204 00:10:55,920 --> 00:10:58,280 Speaker 1: You know, he's just so stubborn, just like his mama 205 00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:02,800 Speaker 1: Janis or whatever. And so about this time, Sean notices 206 00:11:02,840 --> 00:11:06,320 Speaker 1: that the place actually doesn't look very lived in, So 207 00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:10,080 Speaker 1: it doesn't like anyone's like been out here, you know, 208 00:11:10,280 --> 00:11:13,520 Speaker 1: clothes and hanging on the lines. That drives fucked like. 209 00:11:13,559 --> 00:11:15,240 Speaker 1: It's just so she was just like, what the fuck? 210 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:18,520 Speaker 1: And he turns around, and that's when she pulled her 211 00:11:18,520 --> 00:11:20,880 Speaker 1: sword out and put it to his chest and was like, hey, niggas, 212 00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:23,920 Speaker 1: stop playing with me. She's like, cut the bullshit. Where 213 00:11:23,960 --> 00:11:30,400 Speaker 1: the hell is your family? And so then I believe 214 00:11:30,440 --> 00:11:33,559 Speaker 1: this is when we go and see his find out 215 00:11:33,559 --> 00:11:36,719 Speaker 1: where his family is. Yeah, okay, so this is where 216 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:38,920 Speaker 1: we go find out where his family is, y'all. And 217 00:11:39,120 --> 00:11:43,360 Speaker 1: this was, like I already was he was getting on 218 00:11:43,400 --> 00:11:46,679 Speaker 1: my nerves. I kind of understood where he was coming 219 00:11:46,679 --> 00:11:48,920 Speaker 1: from at Ocera side, because the whole thing was I 220 00:11:48,960 --> 00:11:51,560 Speaker 1: gotta get back to my family. She like, where your 221 00:11:51,559 --> 00:11:54,880 Speaker 1: family at? They come back? They standing about three grades. 222 00:11:56,360 --> 00:12:00,120 Speaker 1: And now this this this confused me the first. I'm 223 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:02,440 Speaker 1: gonna watch it, but this is what happened. So that's 224 00:12:02,480 --> 00:12:06,000 Speaker 1: three grades. And he says I always said I take 225 00:12:06,080 --> 00:12:08,520 Speaker 1: some flowers to her every day, and he lays the 226 00:12:08,559 --> 00:12:12,240 Speaker 1: flowers on the graves, and she and Michean had this 227 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:16,240 Speaker 1: thing where she was looking like, I'm sorry your family 228 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:20,679 Speaker 1: is dead, but you've been talking like they was alive 229 00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:25,200 Speaker 1: this whole time, right, So are you just a liar 230 00:12:25,720 --> 00:12:29,559 Speaker 1: or are you just crazy? Which one is it? Because 231 00:12:29,720 --> 00:12:32,520 Speaker 1: he's sitting there talking about the you know, the flowers 232 00:12:32,559 --> 00:12:34,600 Speaker 1: and over the three grades. 233 00:12:35,280 --> 00:12:40,960 Speaker 5: Oh you crazy? 234 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:47,680 Speaker 1: I am? Yeah, Yeah, he's crazy. And so he then 235 00:12:47,760 --> 00:12:52,200 Speaker 1: gives us some story about how you know his family, 236 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:59,040 Speaker 1: uh is dead And here's here's the rundown on that. 237 00:13:00,920 --> 00:13:03,560 Speaker 6: I promise I would help you check and I will. 238 00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:08,160 Speaker 1: I'm wanna fucking myself. The island's not clear, No, not 239 00:13:08,240 --> 00:13:12,160 Speaker 1: clear that this additive version took shit out. But she's 240 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:14,640 Speaker 1: like she was cussing an, She's like, no, shit is 241 00:13:14,679 --> 00:13:19,680 Speaker 1: not clear, Like she was over it. Yes, she was like, 242 00:13:20,040 --> 00:13:22,800 Speaker 1: I left my babies that came out here for this bullshit. 243 00:13:23,160 --> 00:13:25,000 Speaker 2: Right, I could have just sent you on the boat 244 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:26,079 Speaker 2: by yourself, nigga. 245 00:13:26,280 --> 00:13:30,680 Speaker 1: Right, it was until the others came. 246 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:38,720 Speaker 7: It brought violence, the sickness came with it killed my family. 247 00:13:39,040 --> 00:13:41,760 Speaker 5: We never had a lot of rippers, so I never 248 00:13:41,800 --> 00:13:42,760 Speaker 5: really got good. 249 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:46,760 Speaker 2: What it is you do. 250 00:13:48,679 --> 00:13:50,079 Speaker 6: You're good with the sword. 251 00:13:50,320 --> 00:13:51,400 Speaker 2: Why are you asking me. 252 00:13:54,720 --> 00:14:03,840 Speaker 5: My family, my wife, my bag? That's why that's. 253 00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:07,199 Speaker 2: Needed you to. 254 00:14:10,240 --> 00:14:13,120 Speaker 1: Now. This is when I started getting real pissed off, 255 00:14:13,400 --> 00:14:16,760 Speaker 1: because when we left them, the last time we saw them, 256 00:14:17,400 --> 00:14:20,600 Speaker 1: her his thing wasn't please come with me, Like he 257 00:14:20,640 --> 00:14:23,320 Speaker 1: tried to flip this into some reverse psychology, like that's 258 00:14:23,320 --> 00:14:25,880 Speaker 1: why I need you to come and to help me out, 259 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:31,000 Speaker 1: and it's like, no, that's not what the fuck you happened. Yes, 260 00:14:31,160 --> 00:14:34,000 Speaker 1: she you wanted to steal their boat, and she said 261 00:14:34,200 --> 00:14:36,960 Speaker 1: the fuck no, you can't just steal our boat. And 262 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:39,760 Speaker 1: then he was like, well, I got weapons on the island, 263 00:14:40,160 --> 00:14:42,680 Speaker 1: and then she was like, okay, well for the weapons, 264 00:14:42,720 --> 00:14:44,800 Speaker 1: we'll let you use the boat to get back. It 265 00:14:44,880 --> 00:14:47,760 Speaker 1: wasn't and also I need you to come help me 266 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:50,160 Speaker 1: with something like get the fuck out of here. You 267 00:14:50,200 --> 00:14:52,880 Speaker 1: were gonna steal the boat. You didn't even want anyone 268 00:14:52,920 --> 00:14:56,280 Speaker 1: that what the fuck? So I started getting mad because 269 00:14:56,320 --> 00:14:59,520 Speaker 1: I got real scammy vibes off of this nigga right. 270 00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:02,240 Speaker 2: Side niggas was gonna fuck you up. There was like 271 00:15:02,280 --> 00:15:04,680 Speaker 2: you don't belong to get who you what you come from? 272 00:15:05,040 --> 00:15:07,600 Speaker 1: Right like you know they already well you know Ocera 273 00:15:07,640 --> 00:15:11,200 Speaker 1: sideing no news. But I'm just saying like with him specifically, 274 00:15:12,280 --> 00:15:17,440 Speaker 1: uh it just just like this, these lies are starting 275 00:15:17,480 --> 00:15:20,720 Speaker 1: to feel like a lot, and he says the lies 276 00:15:20,760 --> 00:15:23,440 Speaker 1: so matter of fact, like remember, it's like, no nigga, 277 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:24,720 Speaker 1: hey girl, remember I. 278 00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:25,760 Speaker 8: Just wanted to let you girls. 279 00:15:25,760 --> 00:15:28,560 Speaker 1: You know, guy, I'm a real messy bitch, My messy 280 00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:32,360 Speaker 1: bitch who lists for drama. And of course, uh you 281 00:15:32,400 --> 00:15:37,120 Speaker 1: know Sean was approaching the whole situation with, uh this 282 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:43,680 Speaker 1: type of energy, get out of my face. Yeah so 283 00:15:43,680 --> 00:15:49,280 Speaker 1: so then uh so then we enter a building and 284 00:15:49,560 --> 00:15:54,520 Speaker 1: this like long story short, Micheon kills a whole bunch 285 00:15:54,520 --> 00:15:58,880 Speaker 1: of walkers by her motherfuckingself because apparently the only thing 286 00:15:58,960 --> 00:16:01,320 Speaker 1: Virgil didn't lie about was he don't know how to 287 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:03,280 Speaker 1: fight those zombies. No, he don't. 288 00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:06,840 Speaker 2: And so while she's being stealthy, he comes behind her 289 00:16:07,160 --> 00:16:09,360 Speaker 2: and fucking rattles the bookshelf to death. 290 00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:12,520 Speaker 1: I was like the jew right. They try to sneak 291 00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:15,200 Speaker 1: in and he makes a whole lot of noise, causing 292 00:16:15,280 --> 00:16:17,360 Speaker 1: all the zombies to come to them at once. She 293 00:16:17,640 --> 00:16:19,920 Speaker 1: gives him like a board that she pushes all the 294 00:16:19,960 --> 00:16:21,600 Speaker 1: zomers out the way when and says, get behind his 295 00:16:21,680 --> 00:16:24,720 Speaker 1: shield basically, and I'll kill the zombies. She kills all 296 00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:27,600 Speaker 1: the zombies where he stands there does nothing. I haven't 297 00:16:27,600 --> 00:16:30,520 Speaker 1: seen a man that's useless since Eugene. When we first met, 298 00:16:30,520 --> 00:16:34,760 Speaker 1: Eugene like like, somebody need to call Rosita and let 299 00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:38,600 Speaker 1: her be his peloton personal trainer or something, because he 300 00:16:38,680 --> 00:16:40,680 Speaker 1: needed help. He was used as him. 301 00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:46,720 Speaker 9: And Gabe Yeah I work, Yeah, yeah, I mean those 302 00:16:46,720 --> 00:16:49,360 Speaker 9: are the two worst ones, and they were essentially the 303 00:16:49,400 --> 00:16:52,800 Speaker 9: same motherfuckers, because he really just stood there coward like. 304 00:16:52,840 --> 00:16:55,080 Speaker 1: Oh but se don't you get them yet. I'm like, 305 00:16:55,160 --> 00:16:57,479 Speaker 1: here we go, black women doing all the work. 306 00:16:57,360 --> 00:16:59,560 Speaker 2: And lifting off, doing all that heaving, label. 307 00:16:59,320 --> 00:17:01,760 Speaker 1: The black man instead up there to take all the credit, 308 00:17:01,800 --> 00:17:05,480 Speaker 1: all ungrateful. So then they do have a sad scene 309 00:17:05,480 --> 00:17:09,680 Speaker 1: here where they reach a room where some people are 310 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:12,920 Speaker 1: like they're zombies, but they're also like in the room 311 00:17:13,040 --> 00:17:14,960 Speaker 1: or whatever. But then well, I don't know if the 312 00:17:15,080 --> 00:17:18,200 Speaker 1: zombies in the room, the zombies hanging from the ceiling 313 00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:22,680 Speaker 1: like they and they're still moving, which signifies they were hung. 314 00:17:22,800 --> 00:17:25,600 Speaker 1: They were not, you know. And then so it's like, 315 00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:29,200 Speaker 1: well did they hang themselves? But it's like, wait, three 316 00:17:29,720 --> 00:17:32,400 Speaker 1: people don't hang themselves at the same time. 317 00:17:32,600 --> 00:17:34,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, And it was a bunch of them in the 318 00:17:34,359 --> 00:17:37,040 Speaker 2: room and all the chairs were up underneath them. So 319 00:17:37,080 --> 00:17:40,640 Speaker 2: it's like, well, did they hang themselves or did somebody 320 00:17:40,640 --> 00:17:41,239 Speaker 2: put them up there? 321 00:17:41,240 --> 00:17:45,560 Speaker 1: And just it looked like a execution. It did, And 322 00:17:45,640 --> 00:17:49,520 Speaker 1: so it's like, whatever happened in this room, his family 323 00:17:49,760 --> 00:17:53,520 Speaker 1: wasn't just like turned into zombies. They were they were hung. 324 00:17:55,760 --> 00:17:59,520 Speaker 1: And so then he has a moment where a tender 325 00:17:59,560 --> 00:18:02,719 Speaker 1: moment where he puts the shoe that fell off of 326 00:18:02,800 --> 00:18:05,560 Speaker 1: like the wife zombie's foot and puts it back on 327 00:18:05,600 --> 00:18:08,159 Speaker 1: her foot. Then later we go back out there to 328 00:18:08,280 --> 00:18:12,760 Speaker 1: that grave and he thanks Mishean for her help. But 329 00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:15,840 Speaker 1: keep in mind Michean like, okay, I did jo Aaron, 330 00:18:16,359 --> 00:18:19,040 Speaker 1: where the fuck is the munitions? I don't care about this, 331 00:18:19,920 --> 00:18:22,520 Speaker 1: Like she's like, don't thank me, just show me what 332 00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:26,200 Speaker 1: I came for and I'll go right. And then y'all 333 00:18:26,280 --> 00:18:30,400 Speaker 1: this month it's getting late tides load and I should 334 00:18:30,440 --> 00:18:32,680 Speaker 1: have bowl been to make it through the channel. Might 335 00:18:32,720 --> 00:18:34,320 Speaker 1: need to stay here tonight rather than risk it. 336 00:18:34,400 --> 00:18:36,520 Speaker 2: She's like, I didn't plan no goddamn of a night trip. 337 00:18:36,520 --> 00:18:37,600 Speaker 2: I didn't pack no bags. 338 00:18:37,760 --> 00:18:39,960 Speaker 1: She pulled out the black mama voice. I wish I 339 00:18:40,040 --> 00:18:43,200 Speaker 1: had this clip who I couldn't find it. But because 340 00:18:43,240 --> 00:18:46,080 Speaker 1: probably only black people remember this part of the episode, 341 00:18:46,119 --> 00:18:48,600 Speaker 1: because white people that keep the clips on YouTube probably 342 00:18:48,600 --> 00:18:53,000 Speaker 1: going though. But she says Virgil like she said that shit, 343 00:18:53,080 --> 00:18:55,399 Speaker 1: like she caught him opened up a peppermint in church 344 00:18:56,640 --> 00:19:00,560 Speaker 1: during solid prayer time, Like are you doing God right? 345 00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:04,480 Speaker 1: She's definitely gonna pinch his leg in the car or something, 346 00:19:04,480 --> 00:19:07,320 Speaker 1: twist his ear. She said, Virgil, I need you to 347 00:19:07,359 --> 00:19:09,680 Speaker 1: hold up your end of the bargain. And then he's 348 00:19:09,800 --> 00:19:12,400 Speaker 1: like he stands up, like I'm showing up. I mean, 349 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:15,359 Speaker 1: it's it's late, it's dark, you know, the buildings getting 350 00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:18,359 Speaker 1: dark and scary in that just you know, just what 351 00:19:18,560 --> 00:19:20,199 Speaker 1: do A first thing in the morning, I promise. She 352 00:19:20,280 --> 00:19:22,960 Speaker 1: was like, first thing in the morning, okay, But in 353 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:24,760 Speaker 1: the middle of the night she can't sleep. She tries 354 00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:27,439 Speaker 1: to get on the walk to talking to Judith, but 355 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:30,080 Speaker 1: she can't raise Judas, so she goes out patrolling, goes 356 00:19:30,119 --> 00:19:33,040 Speaker 1: into a lab right into that building. Virgil told her 357 00:19:33,040 --> 00:19:35,600 Speaker 1: the wild animals get loosed their so don't go in there. 358 00:19:36,320 --> 00:19:38,320 Speaker 1: But she goes in there, and she's looking around at 359 00:19:38,400 --> 00:19:41,760 Speaker 1: some empty cages that maybe they kept animals in or something. 360 00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:44,880 Speaker 1: But she eventually gets to a room where she hears 361 00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:48,840 Speaker 1: voices coming from the wall. Yes, and the walls is 362 00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:51,159 Speaker 1: you know, like you can't really make out the voices, 363 00:19:51,240 --> 00:19:53,639 Speaker 1: and she goes like, hey, who's there. Yeah, there was 364 00:19:53,640 --> 00:19:56,760 Speaker 1: like everybody's like hear something like like you can't here 365 00:19:56,880 --> 00:19:57,640 Speaker 1: really really low. 366 00:19:57,840 --> 00:19:58,800 Speaker 2: They was like is it. 367 00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:02,400 Speaker 1: Be quiet? And she's like, who's there, y'all are here 368 00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:05,280 Speaker 1: or whatever, and then they don't respond. Soon as she 369 00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:08,119 Speaker 1: said something, they stop answering. She looks up towards the door. 370 00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:12,399 Speaker 1: Virgil is standing at the door and slams the damn 371 00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:16,840 Speaker 1: door on her, locks her in on some kathy bass 372 00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:17,359 Speaker 1: and misery. 373 00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:17,640 Speaker 5: Shit. 374 00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:21,520 Speaker 1: It was like, I told you, yeah, why couldn't you 375 00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:23,879 Speaker 1: just wait intil the morning? I told you it was 376 00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:26,359 Speaker 1: a safe I trusted you, and you ruined it and 377 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:29,199 Speaker 1: then stormed off. I was like what And then Michean 378 00:20:29,359 --> 00:20:32,280 Speaker 1: just banging on the door like Fgil Fergile. 379 00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:35,680 Speaker 2: I was like, what the fuck has she gotten herself into? 380 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:38,400 Speaker 1: Now this is where the episode gets a little silly. Okay, 381 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:42,439 Speaker 1: it gets a little sloppy around here. Maybe I've missed something, 382 00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:44,840 Speaker 1: but I don't know. I watched it twice. I didn't 383 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:47,840 Speaker 1: catch it. But first we get Michelle and banging on 384 00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:50,280 Speaker 1: the door, like a montage of her like holding her 385 00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:53,600 Speaker 1: sword a way out. Then she realizing like, Okay, I 386 00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:56,600 Speaker 1: just need to stay vigilant until this motherfucker opened up 387 00:20:56,680 --> 00:20:59,680 Speaker 1: this door. I got my sword. I'm gonna fuck him up, right. 388 00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:04,840 Speaker 1: But she wakes up and there's a trail of food 389 00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:08,199 Speaker 1: on the ground she bangs on and she realizes like 390 00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:12,960 Speaker 1: someone's been in the room. It looks like whenever she 391 00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:18,320 Speaker 1: woke up or whatever she uh, she must have passed 392 00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:20,760 Speaker 1: out or something, because he had like her sword was gone. 393 00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:24,080 Speaker 1: So this is the only thing that got a little 394 00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:26,399 Speaker 1: sloppy to me, is I don't know, how did she 395 00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:29,040 Speaker 1: just pass out from sleep deprivation. 396 00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:30,840 Speaker 2: And exhaustion that that that's what you know, what I 397 00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:33,960 Speaker 2: mean for a very long time. And in the process, 398 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:36,960 Speaker 2: he's seen she was sleeping, and I think he came 399 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:39,120 Speaker 2: in there, took a sword and put that food down there. 400 00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:43,199 Speaker 1: Well, it's interesting because when she wakes up and yells 401 00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:45,080 Speaker 1: like what Vergil or whatever? 402 00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:46,520 Speaker 4: Oh, go ahead. 403 00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:49,320 Speaker 1: Well, when she wakes up, you know, and yet sees 404 00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:51,679 Speaker 1: the food and bangs on the door, that's when the 405 00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:53,240 Speaker 1: other people on the other side of the wall start 406 00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:58,119 Speaker 1: talking to her and they're like, calm down, and she's like, 407 00:21:58,119 --> 00:21:59,919 Speaker 1: how long I've been in here? There was like, may 408 00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:02,280 Speaker 1: be a day. So I was like, damn, she passed 409 00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:03,840 Speaker 1: out that much in a day. 410 00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:05,760 Speaker 2: Or you know, Initially I thought that she was in 411 00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:08,520 Speaker 2: the gas chamber, the. 412 00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:11,800 Speaker 1: Gas chamber, yes, in the lab okay, but I guess 413 00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:15,320 Speaker 1: they just didn't show the gas scene or whatever. I 414 00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:17,760 Speaker 1: think they should have shown that or something. I don't know. 415 00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:19,679 Speaker 1: It's like I said, it gets a little loose with 416 00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:21,679 Speaker 1: the story right here. They didn't give us the exact 417 00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:24,600 Speaker 1: how and why, so we had to speculate. But it 418 00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:27,199 Speaker 1: like I couldn't tell her she was being forced to 419 00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:30,280 Speaker 1: pass out in that scene or she just passed out. 420 00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:33,480 Speaker 1: But okay, anyway, she wakes up, that's when she has 421 00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:35,200 Speaker 1: a conversations with the people on the side of the wall, 422 00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:38,560 Speaker 1: and she's like and she asked a very pertinent question 423 00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:40,920 Speaker 1: that I had, which is why the fuck y'all ain't 424 00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:43,880 Speaker 1: been talking And it was like, oh, we was trying 425 00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:45,360 Speaker 1: to talk to you earlier. It's like, no, the fuck 426 00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:48,520 Speaker 1: you wasn't. And he was like, well, when we get loud, 427 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:50,840 Speaker 1: you know, he he gets angry, he get in one 428 00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:53,520 Speaker 1: of his moves. And the other thing I kept I 429 00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:57,080 Speaker 1: had to think about logistically here, So how long was 430 00:22:57,160 --> 00:23:06,240 Speaker 1: Virgil in uh in the mainland, you know, at ocean 431 00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:07,600 Speaker 1: side you. 432 00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:09,120 Speaker 2: Had to be there for a hot minute. 433 00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:10,960 Speaker 1: But how long because those people would have died? He 434 00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:13,040 Speaker 1: got those people locked up in there. They he they 435 00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:16,960 Speaker 1: only source of food. It seems so like, what's the 436 00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:19,760 Speaker 1: rules on that? Like was because I'm thinking this episode 437 00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:22,639 Speaker 1: happened in the past or something like I can't. I 438 00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:24,639 Speaker 1: don't know the time of this episode, to be honest, 439 00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:27,080 Speaker 1: it just doesn't like the timing of this is gonna 440 00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:29,359 Speaker 1: be interesting when they if they ever go back and 441 00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:38,920 Speaker 1: explain it. Okay, So so then there's some food, Okay. 442 00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:41,000 Speaker 2: Well, my thing is he may have went there just 443 00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:45,480 Speaker 2: for the supplies, Like yeah, he may have, Like this 444 00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:47,680 Speaker 2: feels like it could have just happened in a few days. 445 00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:52,000 Speaker 1: But then there's also the thing at the end with Judith, 446 00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:54,359 Speaker 1: so it's like, oh, but it's kind of close to 447 00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:58,159 Speaker 1: our current timeline, so you know, it's just interesting to 448 00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:02,560 Speaker 1: think about when this happened. Anyway, So then they were 449 00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:06,080 Speaker 1: like listen, our names all celessed, Tom and John or 450 00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:09,240 Speaker 1: whatever the fuck. And we used to work with him 451 00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:14,840 Speaker 1: at the side facility, and this nigga went crazy one day. 452 00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:17,520 Speaker 1: We used to take people in if they made it 453 00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:19,480 Speaker 1: to the island. We were like, hey, come on in 454 00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:21,800 Speaker 1: the more to marry. But food was getting low and 455 00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:24,159 Speaker 1: there was a fight over some food, so one got killed, 456 00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:29,120 Speaker 1: got stabbed, and Vergil came up later panicked and said, 457 00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:31,840 Speaker 1: oh my god, all these strangers and shit, we need 458 00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:35,960 Speaker 1: to lock everybody inside the science facility. The problem happened 459 00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:40,240 Speaker 1: was that once he locked everyone in the science facility, 460 00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:45,960 Speaker 1: his family was in there too, and so I guess 461 00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:49,320 Speaker 1: since he was the leader or whatever, the people inside 462 00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:52,080 Speaker 1: killed his family out of to make a point like 463 00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:54,760 Speaker 1: let us out, we're gonna kill your family. He didn't, 464 00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:56,280 Speaker 1: so they killed his family and they was like it 465 00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:58,240 Speaker 1: broke him. It fucked him up. He ain't been the 466 00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:01,480 Speaker 1: same since he locked us sit here because he don't 467 00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:06,880 Speaker 1: trust us and he won't let us out, and so, uh, 468 00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:08,840 Speaker 1: they were like, you can go ahead eat the food though, 469 00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:11,400 Speaker 1: because he it will give you strength and you're gonna 470 00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:15,520 Speaker 1: need it to kill him. And uh, you know, she 471 00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:18,520 Speaker 1: was like, okay, when I get the chance, you know 472 00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:24,040 Speaker 1: this nigga is dead, right. So then Virgil showed, she 473 00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:28,240 Speaker 1: eats the food, passes out, wakes up. Virgil's at the 474 00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:32,040 Speaker 1: door and uh, looking through. 475 00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:45,320 Speaker 5: I'm glad you eat damn door. I can't do that. 476 00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:49,240 Speaker 1: Why the hell not kill me? Why is this nigga 477 00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:53,880 Speaker 1: talking like Hannibal elector now, you know, like this motherfucker 478 00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:58,560 Speaker 1: pit personality him Clarice, Like, no, nigga, you was just 479 00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:02,280 Speaker 1: talking normal. Now you talk and creepy crazy, Like what 480 00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:05,119 Speaker 1: kind of the levels are crazy in? This man just 481 00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:05,720 Speaker 1: hopped out. 482 00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:12,840 Speaker 4: We so asshole, I don't want to fight. 483 00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:16,560 Speaker 1: And you guys can hear that's the effects of the 484 00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:20,280 Speaker 1: drugs he has drugged with Sean and it's sucking up. 485 00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:24,720 Speaker 1: It reminded me so much of a Batman uh story 486 00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:28,920 Speaker 1: that involves a scarecrow and and his fear ToxS in 487 00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:31,640 Speaker 1: and how a fucked Batman up and he'd be having 488 00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:33,560 Speaker 1: visions and ship, scarecrow. Don't know what the fuck the 489 00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:36,720 Speaker 1: vision is, but he know the drugs give you visions 490 00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:40,000 Speaker 1: and ship and he's like sitting up there fucking with you. 491 00:26:39,800 --> 00:27:00,120 Speaker 4: You know, I want you. 492 00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:05,080 Speaker 5: It can help you now. 493 00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:08,879 Speaker 1: And you gotta remember when he picked those flowers and 494 00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:12,520 Speaker 1: herbs earlier. I wonder if that he was picking the 495 00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:15,400 Speaker 1: ship there to put in her food to fuck her up. 496 00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:22,119 Speaker 2: Yes, it was some kind of hallucin hallucinogenic, hagen legenic, halucinogenic. 497 00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:29,320 Speaker 1: I don't know, of course, enough we both endpoints hallucinogenic 498 00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:31,520 Speaker 1: for five hundred alex. 499 00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:37,080 Speaker 2: Uh Lee's drugs or something something you know, sleeeping from 500 00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:40,159 Speaker 2: the leaves that actually just you know, makes you hallucinate. 501 00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:43,120 Speaker 1: And it sounds like he's used it before and it's 502 00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:46,520 Speaker 1: given him some type of fucking epiphany or something, you know, 503 00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:48,560 Speaker 1: So he's like, I just want you to use it 504 00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:52,200 Speaker 1: so you can understand. But no, two trips are the same, bro, No, 505 00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:58,000 Speaker 1: they're not. Well. Also, you're not talking in the tone 506 00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:00,720 Speaker 1: of a person that's trying to help me through bad trip, 507 00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:03,400 Speaker 1: like you're talking in the tone of somebody that's making 508 00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:04,080 Speaker 1: it worse. 509 00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:06,520 Speaker 2: Right, because there's no gentleness here. 510 00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:11,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, you're not going okay, you save you. What's going on, Michelle? Yeah, 511 00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:14,680 Speaker 1: you don't want to make you understand like nigga, ain't 512 00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:16,480 Speaker 1: a phone sex line? Stop talking to me like that. 513 00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:20,920 Speaker 1: But meanwhile, in her head, like we see, she's having 514 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:24,520 Speaker 1: visions and one of the visions is like her old 515 00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:38,800 Speaker 1: self and stuff like that. The now was acting her 516 00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:50,560 Speaker 1: ass off. So we come back from commercial. That's a 517 00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:54,280 Speaker 1: falset dripping because when you tripping balls, everything is amplified. 518 00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:59,840 Speaker 1: You check everything, Let me get let me fast, for 519 00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:02,400 Speaker 1: this is what the del people was wondering us about. 520 00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:05,440 Speaker 1: So this is what the deal people was running right 521 00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:12,120 Speaker 1: why they're still alive. So now he's in the room 522 00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:21,040 Speaker 1: while she's drugged talking to her. What did you do, Jim? 523 00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:27,920 Speaker 1: I want you to make with ice tea. So if 524 00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:30,440 Speaker 1: you guys are out there trying to get Stone out 525 00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:31,800 Speaker 1: of your mind, don't do it. 526 00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:32,800 Speaker 4: Okay. 527 00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:37,280 Speaker 5: See you don't think I see it, but I do. 528 00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:39,800 Speaker 5: You're in name like me. 529 00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:47,680 Speaker 6: You need peace like me. I don't try people in 530 00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:51,880 Speaker 6: South Yes, you said, we've had that conversation three times. 531 00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:54,920 Speaker 1: That's when I was like, what how long has she 532 00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:59,880 Speaker 1: been in here? What the fuck is this? Nigga doing like, Wow, 533 00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:03,440 Speaker 1: how does he been getting like he been trying to 534 00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:07,240 Speaker 1: get break her somehow? I don't understand if she's drinking 535 00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:09,320 Speaker 1: the tea all the time, like she forgets she drank 536 00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:10,560 Speaker 1: the tea. What the fuck is happening? 537 00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:11,160 Speaker 7: Right? 538 00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:12,200 Speaker 2: Who knows who? 539 00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:15,520 Speaker 4: Three times I. 540 00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:16,320 Speaker 9: Need you to hear me. 541 00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:20,160 Speaker 8: I need you to think about. 542 00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:21,480 Speaker 5: My daughter and my son. 543 00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:27,360 Speaker 7: Yes I said those words too, but listen, everything I 544 00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:29,120 Speaker 7: did was to protect my family. 545 00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:39,640 Speaker 1: Real proud of you now, and now she's seeing visions 546 00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:41,440 Speaker 1: of sadep Mm hmm. 547 00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:57,000 Speaker 10: You're no angel picture of the sun. 548 00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:07,680 Speaker 5: But the matter Satis do its. 549 00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:08,440 Speaker 6: Worst worth. 550 00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:13,600 Speaker 1: Like they really went like really artsy on this, like 551 00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:17,080 Speaker 1: almost like a one woman played type type thing. You know, 552 00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:18,640 Speaker 1: would ever done right and perform. 553 00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:21,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, but just to emphasize like she she this is 554 00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:23,120 Speaker 2: kind of in her mind. 555 00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:25,160 Speaker 1: Right, and then this is like the guilt she feels 556 00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:30,600 Speaker 1: over Sadik and his family dying and all this stuff too. 557 00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:32,800 Speaker 1: So we get a little bit of an exchange with 558 00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:39,920 Speaker 1: her and Gosta Deek make her feel guilty. I also 559 00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:42,520 Speaker 1: think it's a cool way to bring back that actor. 560 00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:54,320 Speaker 10: You were supposed to protect us. I did my best, 561 00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:58,120 Speaker 10: letting me die and. 562 00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:16,640 Speaker 1: It's blood. It's blood dripping on her hands, and then 563 00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:18,960 Speaker 1: Dee turns into a zombie. M h. 564 00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:34,200 Speaker 2: You know what. The the more and more I think 565 00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:35,880 Speaker 2: about it, he may have never been in the. 566 00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:39,120 Speaker 1: Room, right, Yeah, I don't know, because she's she's tripping 567 00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:41,280 Speaker 1: ball so much. I think that was the whole point 568 00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:43,920 Speaker 1: for us to not know, you know, like what is 569 00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:47,840 Speaker 1: she seeing and what is real and what's not? And 570 00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:50,040 Speaker 1: then oh and then this is real cool. It's just 571 00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:52,920 Speaker 1: I'll just explain this part is real easy. But uh, 572 00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:56,440 Speaker 1: then the old school was shown with the brown you know, 573 00:32:57,680 --> 00:33:01,480 Speaker 1: hood cake thing and the zombies change. She walks in 574 00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:03,560 Speaker 1: without the zombies on change, but she has the change 575 00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:06,920 Speaker 1: and she hands the change to micheone, the macheone that's 576 00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:11,520 Speaker 1: tripping balls. So I just thought that was like real, 577 00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:16,520 Speaker 1: just a real trippy sequence. And like I said, yeah, 578 00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:18,320 Speaker 1: when I first saw it, I was just like, I 579 00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:20,800 Speaker 1: don't know what's happening, what's not happening, what's real? It's 580 00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:23,240 Speaker 1: not real? And I think I was trying to piece 581 00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:25,520 Speaker 1: it together too hard, and so I didn't really enjoy 582 00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:27,320 Speaker 1: it the first time I saw it. But then the 583 00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:29,040 Speaker 1: second time I was like, oh, this is kind of 584 00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:31,960 Speaker 1: like her getting her chance to act, getting her chance 585 00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:35,280 Speaker 1: to to show her her full scope, and then to 586 00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:41,200 Speaker 1: uh also uh, you know, give an artistic twist to 587 00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:43,400 Speaker 1: something that we typically get straight forward every week. 588 00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:43,880 Speaker 2: Correct. 589 00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:51,000 Speaker 1: So then after she's drugged or whatever, she gets yanked 590 00:33:51,080 --> 00:34:01,280 Speaker 1: to another dream sequence where she doesn't save Andrea. I mean, 591 00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:04,320 Speaker 1: I'm always here to see Andrew get eaten by a zombie, 592 00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:06,640 Speaker 1: so you know, I was down with that. But then 593 00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:09,640 Speaker 1: we have another sequence where she's walking down the highway 594 00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:17,319 Speaker 1: and she's passed by Darryl in an SUV type, it's 595 00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:19,400 Speaker 1: some type of car and it gets stuck in the 596 00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:22,200 Speaker 1: mud and she's like help, help, and they don't help her. 597 00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:25,120 Speaker 1: He looks back at her and he says, come on, 598 00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:28,120 Speaker 1: let's go and leaves her out there, which, you know, 599 00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:34,080 Speaker 1: in this alternate imagining or whatever, this was that chance 600 00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:36,680 Speaker 1: for her to end up with a good group, but 601 00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:37,479 Speaker 1: that doesn't happen. 602 00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:39,239 Speaker 4: Let's go. 603 00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:51,840 Speaker 1: So later she ends up fighting some zombies in the woods. 604 00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:57,600 Speaker 1: She's injured, she's cut on the side, and Kniagan and 605 00:34:57,640 --> 00:35:13,200 Speaker 1: the Savors walk up. It's such a dick. She swings 606 00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:15,440 Speaker 1: the sword out on he dodges it and it hits 607 00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:18,720 Speaker 1: a right in the wound with Lucille. 608 00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:24,880 Speaker 11: Chick has some cahone, I don't want any trouble. 609 00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:30,440 Speaker 12: Well, then you're probably shouldn't have taken a swing, jesu. 610 00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:36,319 Speaker 4: Uh m hm. 611 00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:42,479 Speaker 12: You know, I'm not much own saving people on the road, 612 00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:45,040 Speaker 12: especially those that try to take my head off. 613 00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:47,440 Speaker 5: But I gotta say. 614 00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:55,200 Speaker 12: I like you and your big, old, massive lady nuts. Besides, 615 00:35:57,360 --> 00:35:59,920 Speaker 12: it wastes to have such a nice sword and those strength. 616 00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:05,600 Speaker 1: He hands her sword back and Laura throws her apple. 617 00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:16,319 Speaker 1: She joined up with the with all uh and so 618 00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:20,919 Speaker 1: then we get another reimagining and some this this also 619 00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:22,560 Speaker 1: allowed them I don't know if they just used old 620 00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:25,520 Speaker 1: footage or what, but it allowed them to bring back 621 00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:27,640 Speaker 1: these blasts from the past. So we get Glenn and 622 00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:31,440 Speaker 1: Heath when they did that raid on that compound, the 623 00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:33,759 Speaker 1: one that had all that weed in there, which we 624 00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:36,400 Speaker 1: never really found out anything else about the compound with 625 00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:40,399 Speaker 1: all the weed, but we we they're in there. That's 626 00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:42,680 Speaker 1: that night that Rick's crew, you know we talked about 627 00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:44,120 Speaker 1: on the show, the time they kind of crossed the 628 00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:47,240 Speaker 1: line they had never done before and instead of attacking 629 00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:49,919 Speaker 1: out of like self defense, this group that had never 630 00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:53,880 Speaker 1: attacked them. They went through stealth and snuck in at 631 00:36:54,000 --> 00:37:00,160 Speaker 1: night and killed people in their beds. But in this reimagining, Glenn, 632 00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:04,040 Speaker 1: who really struggled with this mission the first time they 633 00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:07,319 Speaker 1: did it like the real in real time, like he 634 00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:09,120 Speaker 1: didn't want to kill the people and they took him 635 00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:15,440 Speaker 1: forever to just do it. But Glenn kills Laura. But 636 00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:18,279 Speaker 1: this awakes ra Seon out of her bed. But she 637 00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:30,520 Speaker 1: wakes up and shoots him, and Hea mm hm got 638 00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:36,200 Speaker 1: that wig back. And I will say this about the 639 00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:41,840 Speaker 1: Savior Michean, She's like, fuck's a bad wig. Okay, I 640 00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:42,960 Speaker 1: walk around with the do. 641 00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:47,839 Speaker 2: Rag all day. Okay, all black leather and do use 642 00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:51,000 Speaker 2: because you know, uh Na made sure she had plenty of. 643 00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:59,040 Speaker 1: Greece, plenty of products. Okay, all the she not she 644 00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:04,879 Speaker 1: probably takes it off a popped out And then so 645 00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:07,560 Speaker 1: then we get the rest of the Savior shootout with them, 646 00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:11,359 Speaker 1: except ma Shon is the one who escapes at the end. 647 00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:20,040 Speaker 1: And then you know, eventually this leads to ricking them 648 00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:25,239 Speaker 1: you know, get captured or whatever. And so instead of 649 00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:31,160 Speaker 1: Kneagan being the one that that ends up you know, 650 00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:34,840 Speaker 1: killing uh because I think you know, and so in 651 00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:38,040 Speaker 1: this reimagining, she killed Glenn and Heath, so there's no 652 00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:42,560 Speaker 1: Glenn at this like this place where they get everybody 653 00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:45,160 Speaker 1: surrounded by the r V, by the r V and 654 00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:46,279 Speaker 1: ship and they're like, you know. 655 00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:49,359 Speaker 2: Glenn Heath that they're already out right, So. 656 00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:58,560 Speaker 1: At this time, it's it's uh like Maggie's back, Uh, 657 00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:03,600 Speaker 1: what's my girl? That with the Sasha. Sasha's back, Abraham, 658 00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:09,719 Speaker 1: Abraham's back, Aaron's there. So like it's a it's a 659 00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:13,040 Speaker 1: completely different reimagining. And this I have to give them 660 00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:16,400 Speaker 1: so much credit for their special effects department because you know, 661 00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:19,480 Speaker 1: they didn't get Andrew Lincoln from Australia to film this 662 00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:22,960 Speaker 1: this whole scene again, so they basically entered. They spliced 663 00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:26,319 Speaker 1: the footage of macheon with them and it and like, 664 00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:28,759 Speaker 1: whether it works for you or not, you know, that's 665 00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:31,239 Speaker 1: not up to me. But it definitely looked like she 666 00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:32,960 Speaker 1: was really there for real and. 667 00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:35,920 Speaker 2: She was talking and in the background and shall like 668 00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:36,719 Speaker 2: it looked. 669 00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:58,520 Speaker 11: Real maybe money, Nah, it's kidding assholes. See, I was 670 00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:03,000 Speaker 11: gonna do this next apartment myself. We'll see my right hand, 671 00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:05,160 Speaker 11: Gal Michelle is on a. 672 00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:06,880 Speaker 12: Wicked ass terror these days. 673 00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:16,200 Speaker 11: And who the hell am I to stand in her way? 674 00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:18,719 Speaker 6: Mmm mmm. 675 00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:23,640 Speaker 8: Mmmmmm. 676 00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:27,680 Speaker 1: Basically, he basically asked her, do you want to do 677 00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:29,560 Speaker 1: this with the bat or the sword? As she ticks 678 00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:29,959 Speaker 1: the bat. 679 00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:31,439 Speaker 8: Get here from? 680 00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:53,240 Speaker 3: I didn't know who they were, where they were from. 681 00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:53,759 Speaker 2: You didn't know about but you came in the dead 682 00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:54,520 Speaker 2: of night. 683 00:40:57,680 --> 00:40:59,920 Speaker 3: And slaughtered them many way and. 684 00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:05,160 Speaker 1: Which is valid, right, This is what we talked about 685 00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:08,520 Speaker 1: when this happened. I was like, our crew kind of 686 00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:12,239 Speaker 1: for the first time, deserves something that's happening to them close. 687 00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:15,680 Speaker 1: From the other perspective, you could see their point. Now, 688 00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:17,880 Speaker 1: I'm not saying that Savors were good people. That were 689 00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:21,680 Speaker 1: obviously terrible people, but they had a fucking point. You know, 690 00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:24,680 Speaker 1: we didn't do shit to y'all, Like what the fuck 691 00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:27,440 Speaker 1: we y'all was living good without bothering us, you know. 692 00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:30,000 Speaker 1: Now we may have eventually made it around your ass, 693 00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:33,040 Speaker 1: so it's a bit of a preemptive strike. But yeah, 694 00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:34,800 Speaker 1: they gotta be feeling some type of way about you 695 00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:38,680 Speaker 1: killing their people in their sleep, you know. But yeah, 696 00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:43,000 Speaker 1: I think also the reason this worked is because just 697 00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:48,640 Speaker 1: the idea of Micheon handling Lucille and talking shit was 698 00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:50,200 Speaker 1: just too good. To pass up. 699 00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:52,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, And somebody brought up in the chat, which I 700 00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:57,160 Speaker 2: remember how when Nagan talks to her he always has 701 00:41:57,200 --> 00:41:59,560 Speaker 2: a kinship with her, and he was like, we actually 702 00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:03,160 Speaker 2: think we're actually more and cut from the same cloth, 703 00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:07,120 Speaker 2: more than you're willing to admit. 704 00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:09,800 Speaker 1: Also, just the fact that he let her hold Lucille. 705 00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:13,080 Speaker 1: He doesn't do that, Like nobody got to bashing somebody 706 00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:18,120 Speaker 1: else with Lucille on his watch, So it meant, you know, yes, 707 00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:37,319 Speaker 1: you know, like now it's super ironic seeing her in 708 00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:41,080 Speaker 1: the face of Rick, the man who eventually becomes her 709 00:42:41,239 --> 00:42:44,080 Speaker 1: you know, her man, her husband, her baby daddy, all 710 00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:47,799 Speaker 1: this shit, and you know, it's like, wow, if she 711 00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:51,320 Speaker 1: hadn't helped Andrea and they hadn't helped her, maybe this 712 00:42:51,400 --> 00:43:01,400 Speaker 1: could have been Micheanne's fate in life, right Chayla oh recipes? 713 00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:09,080 Speaker 2: Carl, Yes, sorry, p baby feede Carl, Maggie, m. 714 00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:22,040 Speaker 5: H, can you remember. 715 00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:25,400 Speaker 1: You did this? 716 00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:28,000 Speaker 8: What happened next? 717 00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:32,880 Speaker 4: It's your sauce. 718 00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:41,080 Speaker 1: Another And that was like a Michelle a macheon standing there. 719 00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:43,759 Speaker 1: It was like Micheaun stunt double got to be on 720 00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:45,719 Speaker 1: the show because they cut the like a woman that 721 00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:47,600 Speaker 1: had dreads and ship that was in the crew, which 722 00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:50,040 Speaker 1: is I guess the day version of their macheon, and 723 00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:56,239 Speaker 1: she hits her with the basket black on black crime, y'all, 724 00:43:56,560 --> 00:44:02,400 Speaker 1: which which actually would have really made Rick snap because 725 00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:05,279 Speaker 1: you literally took the love of his life away. I 726 00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:08,480 Speaker 1: mean remember when they had just tore off her dreads 727 00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:11,719 Speaker 1: and put it on part of that zombie chain, and 728 00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:13,960 Speaker 1: he went crazy. He was looking for That's why they 729 00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:17,960 Speaker 1: got trapped. He went headlong into that trap. He loved 730 00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:26,800 Speaker 1: him from sean y'all. So then now this is the 731 00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:29,320 Speaker 1: end of the Savior saga. They're running through the woods, 732 00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:33,799 Speaker 1: she's trying to escape. She kills a couple Alexandrians and 733 00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:37,600 Speaker 1: then takes a crossbow to the chest from an arrow 734 00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:39,280 Speaker 1: to the chest from Daryl's crossbow. 735 00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:43,560 Speaker 2: Right. And also this shows you how important the relationship 736 00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:45,920 Speaker 2: she had built with them, because she had built a 737 00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:48,440 Speaker 2: relationship with Darryl kind of softened his heart. 738 00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:49,080 Speaker 1: She had been a. 739 00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:52,000 Speaker 2: Relationship with Rick and car because remember Rick was actually 740 00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:54,680 Speaker 2: wilding out when they first got to Alexandria was like, 741 00:44:54,719 --> 00:44:56,919 Speaker 2: I'm gonna take this. She had to knock his ass out. 742 00:44:57,280 --> 00:44:59,760 Speaker 1: You know, the relationships that she's had with these people 743 00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:01,880 Speaker 1: it shows you that they made well also though just 744 00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:04,279 Speaker 1: during this period of time. Remember Darryl and Rick was 745 00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:06,480 Speaker 1: on some kill kill them all shit, like they was 746 00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:10,160 Speaker 1: killing motherfuckers. That actually was like, hey man, if you 747 00:45:10,239 --> 00:45:12,200 Speaker 1: let me go, I'll tell you where this is. It's like, okay, 748 00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:14,600 Speaker 1: damn killing you anyway, ye right. 749 00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:16,920 Speaker 2: Because that's how Aaron got his little girl. 750 00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:19,239 Speaker 1: He walked down and just was like kill k was 751 00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:22,440 Speaker 1: killing everybody. So you know, she just caught that l 752 00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:27,600 Speaker 1: But anyway, the people that have seen it or whatever 753 00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:31,800 Speaker 1: you already know. But Darryl shoots her through the chest 754 00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:34,279 Speaker 1: and then Rick comes up, and then Darryl kicks her 755 00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:37,320 Speaker 1: onto the ground, and then Rick comes over and he's 756 00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:40,439 Speaker 1: the one that delivers the final shot, a gun shot 757 00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:42,880 Speaker 1: right to her face and she lays on the ground. 758 00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:48,640 Speaker 1: So it's like in another world, they're not Starcross lovers. 759 00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:52,000 Speaker 1: You know, she's be shown that got killed fucking around 760 00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:58,800 Speaker 1: with the saviors. So then she comes back to and 761 00:45:58,960 --> 00:46:03,480 Speaker 1: she is throwing up in a bucket in the the 762 00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:07,719 Speaker 1: cell that she was thrown in, and Virgil standing over 763 00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:15,440 Speaker 1: her hands or some water and uh uh trying like 764 00:46:15,560 --> 00:46:18,920 Speaker 1: trying to talk with her or whatever. And then she 765 00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:23,160 Speaker 1: ends up. Uh okay, I think I do have a 766 00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:33,680 Speaker 1: say that. I'm like, bro, what this gameson? Wille shit 767 00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:36,560 Speaker 1: is whack, Like you couldn't have just talked to me. 768 00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:39,960 Speaker 1: I'm over here throwing my guts up, like come on, man, 769 00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:45,560 Speaker 1: had to be something better than this. But yeah. So 770 00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:49,160 Speaker 1: she's sitting there throwing up in the bucket and he 771 00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:53,720 Speaker 1: gives us some water and then he's trying to talk 772 00:46:53,760 --> 00:47:03,040 Speaker 1: to her and she stabs him with a fork from 773 00:47:03,080 --> 00:47:05,360 Speaker 1: that food that he left because apparently he gave a 774 00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:08,040 Speaker 1: real silver well mistake right. 775 00:47:08,120 --> 00:47:10,080 Speaker 2: It was like, oh, brother, you don't know who you're 776 00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:10,520 Speaker 2: talking to. 777 00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:11,399 Speaker 13: Uh. 778 00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:16,279 Speaker 1: And so then he runs out uh uh he They 779 00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:19,000 Speaker 1: wrestle for a bit. I think he tries to hit 780 00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:21,120 Speaker 1: her with like a knife or song, but she knocks 781 00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:23,240 Speaker 1: it out of his hand and then she goes running 782 00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:26,200 Speaker 1: out of the room to chase him. But I actually 783 00:47:26,280 --> 00:47:29,279 Speaker 1: laughed at this part because they can hear her leave. 784 00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:33,960 Speaker 1: But they can hear her leaving, and they were like 785 00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:41,759 Speaker 1: the other people in the the room, don't leave, please. Sure, 786 00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:45,440 Speaker 1: so they cut it out of this version, but they 787 00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:48,640 Speaker 1: was like, Sean, please don't leave. No, please don't leave. 788 00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:53,200 Speaker 1: And I was like, leave them motherfuckers. They ain't even 789 00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:54,799 Speaker 1: want to answer when you talk to them that night. 790 00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:57,160 Speaker 1: But she, knowing I ra sean, she actually took the 791 00:47:57,200 --> 00:47:58,279 Speaker 1: time to go back and get them. 792 00:47:58,320 --> 00:47:58,440 Speaker 8: Now. 793 00:47:58,440 --> 00:48:02,319 Speaker 1: Of course, Virgil's foot of all fucked up, so she 794 00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:06,560 Speaker 1: she's easy to catch. And this dude his leg got 795 00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:07,200 Speaker 1: bad luck. 796 00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:09,839 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, right, because I think that's the shame leg 797 00:48:09,960 --> 00:48:11,279 Speaker 2: that you just sliced him up on. 798 00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:14,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, he been hobbling since we met this motherfucker. But 799 00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:16,920 Speaker 1: they chased him out to the shoreline and they see 800 00:48:17,120 --> 00:48:19,239 Speaker 1: the boat. He set the boat on fire. 801 00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:21,880 Speaker 2: Right, That's why he wanted to steal a knight, because 802 00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:23,360 Speaker 2: he wanted to be sure there was no way she 803 00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:24,200 Speaker 2: could have escaped. 804 00:48:24,520 --> 00:48:29,719 Speaker 1: Right. Well, you know what, though, maybe I think there's 805 00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:32,920 Speaker 1: an alternate version of this where Micheane don't get up 806 00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:34,960 Speaker 1: in the middle of the night and find this building 807 00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:37,839 Speaker 1: and end up trapped. I think there's a version where 808 00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:40,279 Speaker 1: he maybe does take her or wherever he thinks these 809 00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:44,319 Speaker 1: weapons on munitions might be, she and she leaves. Like 810 00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:46,400 Speaker 1: I think he would have been perfectly happy to just 811 00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:51,360 Speaker 1: keep them people captive in there or whatever, but once 812 00:48:51,600 --> 00:48:55,160 Speaker 1: she went little snooping, he changed his plan. Is my guest, 813 00:48:55,239 --> 00:48:57,520 Speaker 1: because I don't think he really wanted her to find out, 814 00:48:58,040 --> 00:49:00,520 Speaker 1: because even the way he quote unquote trapped was real, 815 00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:03,840 Speaker 1: like coincidental. It wasn't like a it wasn't like he 816 00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:06,359 Speaker 1: set up this like follow these breadcrumbs and I'm gonna 817 00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:06,600 Speaker 1: get you. 818 00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:08,560 Speaker 5: Uh. 819 00:49:08,560 --> 00:49:14,640 Speaker 1: Anyway, she finds him in the woods running, the people 820 00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:23,759 Speaker 1: are following behind them. Sean, I was gonna ask you 821 00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:25,680 Speaker 1: to help me. I wanted to let them go. 822 00:49:26,320 --> 00:49:28,160 Speaker 6: I wanted you to be there so they wouldn't kill me. 823 00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:30,919 Speaker 2: You found them first, and I knew you were gonna 824 00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:31,239 Speaker 2: kill me. 825 00:49:32,040 --> 00:49:33,880 Speaker 1: I'm sorry. 826 00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:37,200 Speaker 2: Oh so so basically, which I think is a lie too. 827 00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:38,640 Speaker 8: Uh. 828 00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:40,680 Speaker 2: I don't think that was his intentions, but this is 829 00:49:40,680 --> 00:49:42,240 Speaker 2: what he got to say that cover his ass. 830 00:49:42,239 --> 00:49:46,520 Speaker 1: Now maybe right so there, So this is what I 831 00:49:46,600 --> 00:49:48,520 Speaker 1: noticed the second time, because the first time I was 832 00:49:48,560 --> 00:49:51,839 Speaker 1: with you, I was like, this Niggas is a diabolical lie. 833 00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:56,120 Speaker 1: You can't trust him and he's a bad person. What 834 00:49:56,239 --> 00:50:00,200 Speaker 1: I think is his family dying fucked him up. You'll 835 00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:04,880 Speaker 1: never trust anyone again. He does lie constantly or whatever. 836 00:50:06,600 --> 00:50:10,640 Speaker 1: But he also really did want to let them people out. 837 00:50:11,200 --> 00:50:13,400 Speaker 1: But what he had done to them was so fucked up. 838 00:50:13,400 --> 00:50:14,880 Speaker 1: If he let him out, they were gonna kill him. 839 00:50:14,920 --> 00:50:17,520 Speaker 1: There was no way because why else feed them people? 840 00:50:17,560 --> 00:50:19,759 Speaker 1: Why else keep them alive? Like fuck them? Then if 841 00:50:19,800 --> 00:50:22,200 Speaker 1: I'm gonna let y'all start to death, I don't care. 842 00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:24,880 Speaker 1: Once I see y'all zombies all, you know, then I'll 843 00:50:25,239 --> 00:50:28,239 Speaker 1: leave y'all enough forever. So there's something about him where 844 00:50:28,280 --> 00:50:31,400 Speaker 1: I do think you know what it is. He's a coward. 845 00:50:31,600 --> 00:50:34,920 Speaker 1: He's a fucking coward. He's Eugene, you know what I mean. 846 00:50:34,960 --> 00:50:38,000 Speaker 1: Where Eugene might not be a quote unquote evil person, 847 00:50:38,040 --> 00:50:40,120 Speaker 1: but being a coward is almost worse than being evil 848 00:50:40,480 --> 00:50:42,200 Speaker 1: because you can't I can't depend on you for shit. 849 00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:44,920 Speaker 1: You always take the cowards way out, and that's worse. 850 00:50:45,200 --> 00:50:46,960 Speaker 2: Right, That's why he end up joining the Saviors and 851 00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:49,160 Speaker 2: all that. Like he was like they go there on 852 00:50:49,200 --> 00:50:51,239 Speaker 2: the right side. They was like, Eugena, hell is wrong 853 00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:51,520 Speaker 2: with you? 854 00:50:52,120 --> 00:50:55,000 Speaker 1: Like, well, that gonna protect me? You don't stand up 855 00:50:55,040 --> 00:50:59,120 Speaker 1: for nothing, So I'm on easy street. Yeah, right, that 856 00:50:59,239 --> 00:51:01,919 Speaker 1: was Eugene, right, So I think that was a big 857 00:51:01,960 --> 00:51:06,319 Speaker 1: part of this was anyway, I think that's so I 858 00:51:06,360 --> 00:51:09,000 Speaker 1: do believe that he did think, well, if I can 859 00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:12,160 Speaker 1: if I'm a drug Michelle, break her down with these 860 00:51:12,239 --> 00:51:14,600 Speaker 1: drugs and the understanding where I'm coming from. Because whatever 861 00:51:14,640 --> 00:51:16,799 Speaker 1: he did with them drugs, I also think them drugs 862 00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:18,560 Speaker 1: sucked them up because he was like, I thought you 863 00:51:18,600 --> 00:51:21,160 Speaker 1: would see what I saw on my visions, you know, 864 00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:24,080 Speaker 1: and then you know, I got to see my family 865 00:51:24,120 --> 00:51:25,839 Speaker 1: and I got to be with them again. I thought 866 00:51:25,840 --> 00:51:27,440 Speaker 1: you would be at you will see that, and you 867 00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:29,719 Speaker 1: will realize that you know, I'm a good person and 868 00:51:29,800 --> 00:51:32,279 Speaker 1: that forgiveness is the way, and then teach, and then 869 00:51:32,400 --> 00:51:34,920 Speaker 1: because you can fight, you'll stop them from killing me 870 00:51:35,320 --> 00:51:37,880 Speaker 1: so I can live. And it's playing kind of works 871 00:51:38,480 --> 00:51:41,799 Speaker 1: if you think about it. Yeah, they fucked that leg 872 00:51:41,880 --> 00:51:42,560 Speaker 1: up again. 873 00:51:43,960 --> 00:51:46,560 Speaker 14: The right thing to do. And then she was gone, 874 00:51:47,600 --> 00:51:53,480 Speaker 14: what to do? Couldn't I didn't want to kill you, shun. 875 00:51:53,480 --> 00:51:58,880 Speaker 1: As much reason to kill as we do now. I 876 00:51:58,920 --> 00:52:01,800 Speaker 1: won't fright, y'all. I wanted her to kill him until 877 00:52:01,800 --> 00:52:04,839 Speaker 1: the white people start being like, yeah, kill him for us. 878 00:52:05,800 --> 00:52:09,000 Speaker 1: I was like, what you think you're talking to? No, 879 00:52:09,120 --> 00:52:12,560 Speaker 1: don't do it, Michelle, Like part of me like like 880 00:52:12,600 --> 00:52:14,560 Speaker 1: I was okay, I don't know what happened. It was 881 00:52:14,600 --> 00:52:16,279 Speaker 1: like in the middle, I just flipped off because I 882 00:52:16,320 --> 00:52:19,720 Speaker 1: was like, kill this nigga, and it was like, yeah, Michelle, 883 00:52:19,840 --> 00:52:21,400 Speaker 1: do it. You got as much right to kill him 884 00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:23,680 Speaker 1: as we do. I'm like, first of all, white man, 885 00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:28,399 Speaker 1: this is not ordering a pizza. Motherfucker. I say when 886 00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:31,279 Speaker 1: the killing is gonna happen, Okay, I'm the one that 887 00:52:31,320 --> 00:52:33,120 Speaker 1: can fight and got my hands around the store. Y'all 888 00:52:33,160 --> 00:52:34,920 Speaker 1: didn't do ship. I let you out of you Okay, 889 00:52:35,040 --> 00:52:37,520 Speaker 1: you don't get on this? Yeah the fuck you talking 890 00:52:37,560 --> 00:52:41,359 Speaker 1: about something? Yeah? Do it? Bitch, like, no, the fuck out. 891 00:52:41,520 --> 00:52:44,560 Speaker 1: I didn't like, let me speak to a manager. No, 892 00:52:46,840 --> 00:52:48,480 Speaker 1: you're a little too fucking demand. 893 00:52:48,280 --> 00:52:50,080 Speaker 2: Y'all sip allowed to hear, ma'am right. 894 00:52:50,760 --> 00:52:53,120 Speaker 1: I don't like this ship. It's like if I was 895 00:52:53,160 --> 00:52:54,719 Speaker 1: gonna get some coffee out the break room, but you 896 00:52:54,840 --> 00:52:57,960 Speaker 1: like bring me a cup back to the fuck like 897 00:52:58,040 --> 00:53:00,080 Speaker 1: if you would have asked maybe like can I have 898 00:53:00,160 --> 00:53:03,640 Speaker 1: a couple? Like okay, but yeah, no, not do it. 899 00:53:04,320 --> 00:53:05,440 Speaker 2: Two Sugar's no green. 900 00:53:12,440 --> 00:53:15,799 Speaker 1: So she doesn't kill him, and she can she tells 901 00:53:15,840 --> 00:53:19,759 Speaker 1: the other people like listen, I'm not gonna kill him 902 00:53:20,120 --> 00:53:25,640 Speaker 1: because of you can't really truly have peace until give 903 00:53:25,719 --> 00:53:30,040 Speaker 1: somebody mercy, and my like my man used to say, 904 00:53:30,160 --> 00:53:33,040 Speaker 1: my mercy prevailed over my wrath or something like that, 905 00:53:33,600 --> 00:53:36,160 Speaker 1: and so she let him live. And also because she 906 00:53:36,239 --> 00:53:39,239 Speaker 1: will whoop all their ass, they couldn't do shit. And 907 00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:41,160 Speaker 1: then the one woman went and knocked him out with 908 00:53:41,360 --> 00:53:44,640 Speaker 1: like a stick or some shit knocked his ass out. Okay, 909 00:53:44,800 --> 00:53:48,120 Speaker 1: So the reason I think on the first time, I 910 00:53:48,160 --> 00:53:49,960 Speaker 1: thought it didn't make any sense that she let him live. 911 00:53:50,520 --> 00:53:54,319 Speaker 1: But two things. One, she still need the munitions and 912 00:53:54,360 --> 00:54:02,840 Speaker 1: he claimed they there. Secondly, that Vision, Yes, the Vision 913 00:54:02,880 --> 00:54:06,600 Speaker 1: show would have Ma Shonne without mercy a mahone that 914 00:54:06,600 --> 00:54:12,919 Speaker 1: that kills uh even out of wrath and revenge. Yeah, 915 00:54:13,040 --> 00:54:15,520 Speaker 1: you see where it ends. And that's not the lesson 916 00:54:15,560 --> 00:54:19,480 Speaker 1: she learned from Uh Carl and and her time with 917 00:54:19,600 --> 00:54:20,919 Speaker 1: the Alexandrians and ship. 918 00:54:21,040 --> 00:54:24,319 Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, because I also think Carl softened her 919 00:54:24,320 --> 00:54:27,719 Speaker 2: heart a lot because she was actually going to break 920 00:54:27,719 --> 00:54:29,799 Speaker 2: off on her own again and she kept thinking about 921 00:54:29,840 --> 00:54:32,320 Speaker 2: Carl and the relationship and ship like that, which actually 922 00:54:32,320 --> 00:54:33,320 Speaker 2: calls her to stay. 923 00:54:34,200 --> 00:54:37,600 Speaker 1: Yeah. I really would have liked to revisit someone I'm 924 00:54:37,640 --> 00:54:39,440 Speaker 1: I'm channeling rig is probably done with the show, but 925 00:54:39,719 --> 00:54:41,799 Speaker 1: that would have been cool to revisit sometimes with her 926 00:54:41,920 --> 00:54:45,240 Speaker 1: Carl because that was that was a I love that relationship. 927 00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:51,520 Speaker 1: But yeah, back to this, so she lets him live. 928 00:54:53,600 --> 00:54:54,120 Speaker 2: Or move? 929 00:54:54,680 --> 00:54:56,960 Speaker 1: You see what I'm saying, y'all. Y'all feeling it too 930 00:54:57,080 --> 00:54:59,839 Speaker 1: in my tripping like I was cool until they start 931 00:55:00,120 --> 00:55:03,480 Speaker 1: making commands like nah nah no, see, sit your white 932 00:55:03,520 --> 00:55:06,719 Speaker 1: ass down, Becky. I'm the one saved you. You was 933 00:55:06,800 --> 00:55:09,799 Speaker 1: over there in the sale eating, eating drug apples and 934 00:55:09,800 --> 00:55:14,160 Speaker 1: shit until I came along. The fuck you, I decide, 935 00:55:15,040 --> 00:55:17,440 Speaker 1: mm hmm. You don't get the orders here, y'all. Niggas 936 00:55:17,480 --> 00:55:19,480 Speaker 1: had years to kill this man. Let me let me 937 00:55:19,560 --> 00:55:20,200 Speaker 1: figure it out. 938 00:55:24,520 --> 00:55:28,600 Speaker 2: Look at them, he. 939 00:55:28,440 --> 00:55:31,080 Speaker 8: Owes you more than he can ever make right. 940 00:55:33,160 --> 00:55:39,480 Speaker 10: Taking his life, you would lose more of yourself. 941 00:55:41,160 --> 00:55:43,960 Speaker 2: It doesn't settle it, but. 942 00:55:44,120 --> 00:55:46,960 Speaker 6: Your mercy gives you something. 943 00:55:47,200 --> 00:55:50,200 Speaker 5: You get something, what. 944 00:55:52,400 --> 00:55:52,640 Speaker 4: Peace? 945 00:56:01,080 --> 00:56:05,120 Speaker 1: And that's when they knocked you out. Yeah she lucky. 946 00:56:05,200 --> 00:56:07,359 Speaker 1: I mean to be honest, they lucky. She not mad 947 00:56:07,360 --> 00:56:10,120 Speaker 1: at them. I would have left y'all ass in there. Y'all. 948 00:56:10,200 --> 00:56:12,279 Speaker 1: Niggas told me eat that bread and drink that tea 949 00:56:12,280 --> 00:56:15,239 Speaker 1: and shit, like I don't think they think it thought 950 00:56:15,239 --> 00:56:18,840 Speaker 1: it was drug cup. Yeah, well, I mean apparently we 951 00:56:18,840 --> 00:56:22,279 Speaker 1: don't forget mistakes on this side, so you know, like, 952 00:56:22,320 --> 00:56:24,759 Speaker 1: get the fuck out of here. Anyway, they wiped this 953 00:56:24,840 --> 00:56:26,840 Speaker 1: nigga up and the sail later, well it was shown, 954 00:56:26,960 --> 00:56:39,480 Speaker 1: does there's nothing here? 955 00:56:40,280 --> 00:56:42,719 Speaker 9: I checked every building, even the ones you said had 956 00:56:42,719 --> 00:56:43,880 Speaker 9: structural damage. 957 00:56:45,160 --> 00:56:48,960 Speaker 2: Not a goddamn thing anywhere. I'm not going back empty handed. 958 00:56:49,239 --> 00:56:52,759 Speaker 15: Take whatever you want, clear my deck with over side. 959 00:56:55,600 --> 00:56:57,880 Speaker 5: You took the risk, didn't. 960 00:56:57,640 --> 00:56:58,160 Speaker 1: Have a joint. 961 00:57:00,160 --> 00:57:06,200 Speaker 8: I had to find out. And there's no tease. 962 00:57:06,239 --> 00:57:14,280 Speaker 2: I don't even ask. 963 00:57:15,800 --> 00:57:17,120 Speaker 8: What do you see when you're tripping? 964 00:57:17,200 --> 00:57:30,520 Speaker 6: Anyway, Lisa with that damn camera point my babies, Jasmine 965 00:57:30,600 --> 00:57:34,160 Speaker 6: sitting by the fire with that book. 966 00:57:33,880 --> 00:57:39,120 Speaker 7: Asking any young questions about the worlds you'll never know. 967 00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:44,960 Speaker 7: Bobby and Me lying on the roof of the Headnax 968 00:57:45,000 --> 00:57:46,640 Speaker 7: looking up at the stars. 969 00:57:49,720 --> 00:57:50,040 Speaker 4: Heaven. 970 00:57:54,400 --> 00:58:04,480 Speaker 5: I wouldn't hope that you would see that too, to 971 00:58:04,640 --> 00:58:08,280 Speaker 5: my family from me, I saw hell. 972 00:58:11,040 --> 00:58:12,800 Speaker 4: I'm sorry. 973 00:58:14,200 --> 00:58:15,800 Speaker 1: It would have been funny if she was like, what 974 00:58:15,800 --> 00:58:19,840 Speaker 1: did you see? He was like rainbows and teddy bears 975 00:58:20,520 --> 00:58:25,680 Speaker 1: flying over the moon. I saw a flower. She about 976 00:58:25,720 --> 00:58:29,320 Speaker 1: to get them real there having sex with a tree, like. 977 00:58:31,480 --> 00:58:34,640 Speaker 2: You know what you might want to stand here? We 978 00:58:34,680 --> 00:58:35,800 Speaker 2: need to pas these walls. 979 00:58:36,000 --> 00:58:40,600 Speaker 1: I seen the stars coming out of my penis. It 980 00:58:40,720 --> 00:58:45,920 Speaker 1: was amazing, Sean Gdly, what's everywhere? I don't even have 981 00:58:45,960 --> 00:58:48,560 Speaker 1: a family. I'm just addicted to that tea with that 982 00:58:48,640 --> 00:58:51,160 Speaker 1: weed and the girl. You sure you don't want to 983 00:58:51,200 --> 00:58:57,000 Speaker 1: know that. No, I'm gonna need some more tea. Okay, 984 00:58:58,400 --> 00:59:02,200 Speaker 1: I don't know how to do this without you try 985 00:59:02,640 --> 00:59:08,040 Speaker 1: like the rest of us. So at this point, she 986 00:59:08,240 --> 00:59:11,240 Speaker 1: needs to get her stuff out of storage because he's 987 00:59:11,280 --> 00:59:20,360 Speaker 1: taking her weapons whatever whenever. He uh put her in 988 00:59:20,400 --> 00:59:22,760 Speaker 1: the in the cell and she passed out. He took 989 00:59:22,800 --> 00:59:25,720 Speaker 1: all her stuff, so she's like, well, at least tell 990 00:59:25,760 --> 00:59:27,560 Speaker 1: me what my stuff is. He also tells her like, 991 00:59:27,680 --> 00:59:31,000 Speaker 1: I wasn't lying. I didn't say I saw the munitions. 992 00:59:31,400 --> 00:59:34,360 Speaker 1: I said I saw I knew some spots where they 993 00:59:34,440 --> 00:59:36,800 Speaker 1: was at or something. I knew the spots where they 994 00:59:36,840 --> 00:59:39,439 Speaker 1: would be or something. She was like, okay, well take 995 00:59:39,520 --> 00:59:42,600 Speaker 1: me to those spots before I leave and help me 996 00:59:42,640 --> 00:59:45,360 Speaker 1: get my motherfucking weapon back to before I had to 997 00:59:45,360 --> 00:59:52,600 Speaker 1: fuck you up some more. So then uh she takes 998 00:59:52,600 --> 00:59:58,680 Speaker 1: his hobbling ass uh to to to the room where 999 00:59:59,240 --> 01:00:05,640 Speaker 1: h her stuff is and she gets her She gets 1000 01:00:05,680 --> 01:00:08,439 Speaker 1: her sword. She turns around and she flashes the light 1001 01:00:08,600 --> 01:00:11,920 Speaker 1: and the camera pans over and we see some dinged, 1002 01:00:12,080 --> 01:00:17,720 Speaker 1: dirty old cowboy boots and it's only one pair of boots, 1003 01:00:18,000 --> 01:00:22,160 Speaker 1: right that smell the way I imagine these boots must 1004 01:00:22,200 --> 01:00:27,720 Speaker 1: have smelled. Okay, a woman knows her man's feet smell. Okay, 1005 01:00:28,040 --> 01:00:31,280 Speaker 1: it's Rick's boots, y'all. And she has like a moment 1006 01:00:31,320 --> 01:00:34,640 Speaker 1: with the boots where she's all like, you know, like 1007 01:00:34,720 --> 01:00:37,280 Speaker 1: she holds them and smells like she did some acting, 1008 01:00:37,720 --> 01:00:40,440 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, like like like these are 1009 01:00:40,480 --> 01:00:42,240 Speaker 1: the most precious boots in the world. 1010 01:00:42,360 --> 01:00:46,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, because they probably had, like you said, his odor 1011 01:00:46,120 --> 01:00:46,520 Speaker 2: on them. 1012 01:00:46,680 --> 01:00:47,000 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1013 01:00:47,040 --> 01:00:50,200 Speaker 2: And you know, particularly if you've been with the personal 1014 01:00:50,240 --> 01:00:52,400 Speaker 2: a long time, they they might not know it, but 1015 01:00:52,440 --> 01:00:55,440 Speaker 2: they have a distinct smell, and so that smell probably 1016 01:00:55,480 --> 01:00:58,120 Speaker 2: was nostalgian thinks. 1017 01:00:58,760 --> 01:01:01,440 Speaker 1: Up until this point, she probably thinking he's dead. You know. 1018 01:01:01,560 --> 01:01:03,960 Speaker 1: She had to give up on that dream and raised 1019 01:01:03,960 --> 01:01:10,280 Speaker 1: you to And Virgil sees this and she's like crying, 1020 01:01:17,480 --> 01:01:20,120 Speaker 1: where the hell did she slammed this nigg up against 1021 01:01:20,160 --> 01:01:23,360 Speaker 1: the wall with the force of ten hulks. Noah, And 1022 01:01:23,400 --> 01:01:26,600 Speaker 1: we you know, Virgil can't fight like he was like 1023 01:01:26,840 --> 01:01:28,280 Speaker 1: it was like she was about to be like, where 1024 01:01:28,360 --> 01:01:31,440 Speaker 1: is my lunch money? Give it up, boy, it's my 1025 01:01:31,560 --> 01:01:41,200 Speaker 1: lunch today. So then he takes her out to a 1026 01:01:41,240 --> 01:01:44,520 Speaker 1: ship that has like run ashore. 1027 01:01:48,160 --> 01:01:49,080 Speaker 4: Did, washed up. 1028 01:01:50,720 --> 01:01:50,840 Speaker 2: Wash. 1029 01:01:51,920 --> 01:01:53,440 Speaker 8: I don't know where the hell that came from. 1030 01:01:57,960 --> 01:02:00,880 Speaker 1: She drugged this nigga into the ship with one on 1031 01:02:00,920 --> 01:02:03,520 Speaker 1: his one leg, chained him up to like a pole, 1032 01:02:04,120 --> 01:02:17,920 Speaker 1: and she starts looking through the ship he was shown. 1033 01:02:20,720 --> 01:02:23,360 Speaker 1: So basically she looks through she sees a manifest that 1034 01:02:23,440 --> 01:02:26,280 Speaker 1: says the ship was headed to New Jersey or came 1035 01:02:26,280 --> 01:02:30,920 Speaker 1: from New Jersey as the last port exited. She also 1036 01:02:31,120 --> 01:02:35,520 Speaker 1: sees a phone, and the phone has her face like 1037 01:02:35,600 --> 01:02:39,520 Speaker 1: the images of her and Judith sketched into it, like 1038 01:02:39,600 --> 01:02:42,040 Speaker 1: scratched into the surface of the phone like a keepsake, 1039 01:02:42,440 --> 01:02:44,400 Speaker 1: and then on the top it says rick, and then 1040 01:02:44,440 --> 01:02:47,480 Speaker 1: underneath that it has some either Chinese or Japanese lettering. 1041 01:02:48,600 --> 01:02:53,040 Speaker 1: In the translation which I heard either talking Dead or 1042 01:02:53,040 --> 01:02:58,240 Speaker 1: saw on online was something like it was essentially saying 1043 01:02:58,280 --> 01:03:00,600 Speaker 1: don't give up hope yet, or keep keep hoping or 1044 01:03:00,680 --> 01:03:04,800 Speaker 1: keep you know, so you know, someone Wroke gave that 1045 01:03:04,880 --> 01:03:08,600 Speaker 1: the rick, you know, and essentially it got left there. 1046 01:03:09,880 --> 01:03:12,640 Speaker 1: And so this of course makes her have all kinds 1047 01:03:12,680 --> 01:03:16,480 Speaker 1: of questions for Virgil. And Virgil is also watching this 1048 01:03:16,640 --> 01:03:18,800 Speaker 1: realizing like what she knows this person? 1049 01:03:19,240 --> 01:03:33,360 Speaker 13: Shit, that's you and the kid. 1050 01:03:30,880 --> 01:03:36,240 Speaker 1: Now, moseeone rightfully. So it's putting the pieces together, and 1051 01:03:36,320 --> 01:03:41,440 Speaker 1: she's thinking, this motherfucker seeing this picture. He knew me, 1052 01:03:41,760 --> 01:03:45,120 Speaker 1: he knew Judah. Somehow he went the ocean side looking 1053 01:03:45,160 --> 01:03:47,800 Speaker 1: for me. And this is not a coincidence. This is 1054 01:03:47,840 --> 01:03:51,760 Speaker 1: some type of nefarious plan, right. You know she's paranoid 1055 01:03:51,760 --> 01:03:55,480 Speaker 1: after the whispers and all this stuff. Now, honestly, it 1056 01:03:55,640 --> 01:03:58,960 Speaker 1: sounds it's so far fetched that it's it's almost ridiculous, right, 1057 01:03:59,000 --> 01:04:03,280 Speaker 1: particularly the way he right. But this is why you 1058 01:04:03,320 --> 01:04:06,160 Speaker 1: don't lie to people. Since he been lying all day, 1059 01:04:06,160 --> 01:04:09,080 Speaker 1: Guess what happens? You get accused of lying again? 1060 01:04:11,600 --> 01:04:12,000 Speaker 4: You do. 1061 01:04:16,320 --> 01:04:17,760 Speaker 8: You came to find the solutions? 1062 01:04:21,320 --> 01:04:24,320 Speaker 5: What why would I do that? 1063 01:04:24,440 --> 01:04:25,760 Speaker 1: Because I have. 1064 01:04:25,800 --> 01:04:28,800 Speaker 5: Never seen that before in my life. I swear, Why. 1065 01:04:28,640 --> 01:04:30,720 Speaker 2: Are thinking here? What was he doing here? 1066 01:04:31,400 --> 01:04:33,360 Speaker 5: I know you knew that the boat was here this 1067 01:04:33,480 --> 01:04:34,040 Speaker 5: whole time. 1068 01:04:34,240 --> 01:04:37,680 Speaker 1: The bolts wash up? What do you want me to say? 1069 01:04:39,680 --> 01:04:43,600 Speaker 1: Slam them up against the wall again? Man, bro, First 1070 01:04:43,640 --> 01:04:46,160 Speaker 1: of all, when you're talking to a black woman as 1071 01:04:46,240 --> 01:04:48,160 Speaker 1: upset like this, you need to take a little that 1072 01:04:48,160 --> 01:04:50,800 Speaker 1: base out your voice, the base at your voice. It 1073 01:04:50,880 --> 01:04:54,840 Speaker 1: was like, he was like, it's my cousin, bitch, damn. Like, no, no, 1074 01:04:55,080 --> 01:04:57,400 Speaker 1: that's not the tone you want to take right now. 1075 01:04:58,440 --> 01:05:00,000 Speaker 1: I can feel the ass has been coming, so you 1076 01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:01,720 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna take it down a couple of notches, 1077 01:05:02,520 --> 01:05:05,040 Speaker 1: you know, and put puffy chest out a little less 1078 01:05:05,720 --> 01:05:07,880 Speaker 1: and hey, hey, I don't I know you're going through 1079 01:05:07,880 --> 01:05:10,120 Speaker 1: some things right now. I promise you'll I'm not lying. 1080 01:05:10,240 --> 01:05:12,440 Speaker 1: But nope, He's like, what you want me to do? 1081 01:05:12,480 --> 01:05:14,320 Speaker 1: Both watch up? And said, well, now you got to 1082 01:05:14,320 --> 01:05:15,120 Speaker 1: get beat up again. 1083 01:05:17,480 --> 01:05:21,120 Speaker 2: They shouldn't were you steting up a truck? 1084 01:05:27,440 --> 01:05:29,760 Speaker 5: Are you talking about? 1085 01:05:32,160 --> 01:05:32,280 Speaker 4: Now? 1086 01:05:32,360 --> 01:05:34,520 Speaker 1: See, he got it right that time, But it shouldn't 1087 01:05:34,560 --> 01:05:36,720 Speaker 1: take me having to jack your ass up every time 1088 01:05:37,320 --> 01:05:38,920 Speaker 1: for you to get to the point where you know 1089 01:05:39,000 --> 01:05:42,560 Speaker 1: her how to have some conflict de escalation skills. That 1090 01:05:42,560 --> 01:05:43,160 Speaker 1: should have been. 1091 01:05:43,040 --> 01:05:44,480 Speaker 2: The first thing. Who are you talking? 1092 01:05:44,720 --> 01:05:48,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, ma'am, I have no idea. But but but he 1093 01:05:48,280 --> 01:05:51,240 Speaker 1: started feeling his britches. They say, you know you only 1094 01:05:51,280 --> 01:05:53,240 Speaker 1: got one Okay, you want to you want this leg 1095 01:05:53,280 --> 01:06:12,120 Speaker 1: to heal? Well, he almost got killed several times his eh, 1096 01:06:12,240 --> 01:06:13,240 Speaker 1: so he don't even know. 1097 01:06:16,000 --> 01:06:16,200 Speaker 4: See. 1098 01:06:16,240 --> 01:06:17,960 Speaker 1: This is when I start having a little mercy on him. 1099 01:06:18,000 --> 01:06:20,920 Speaker 2: I said, this dude a fool, he's an idiot. 1100 01:06:21,200 --> 01:06:23,840 Speaker 1: He really is a dumb ass. Like I mean, I'm 1101 01:06:23,880 --> 01:06:26,160 Speaker 1: not saying that he should be alive in his epoch. 1102 01:06:26,240 --> 01:06:29,200 Speaker 1: I don't know how he's still alive. He should clearly 1103 01:06:29,240 --> 01:06:32,920 Speaker 1: be dead at this point. But this nigga is stupid. 1104 01:06:38,120 --> 01:06:39,760 Speaker 1: I know his wife had a lot of work cut 1105 01:06:39,800 --> 01:06:40,400 Speaker 1: out for Earth. 1106 01:06:40,200 --> 01:06:46,160 Speaker 15: What the issues think I have or who you're looking for? 1107 01:06:51,120 --> 01:06:56,520 Speaker 15: Maybe it wasn't a night we met. If the others 1108 01:06:56,520 --> 01:06:57,760 Speaker 15: will help me, I think we can. 1109 01:06:57,760 --> 01:06:59,560 Speaker 5: Mod the engine and get it working again. 1110 01:07:03,040 --> 01:07:07,160 Speaker 10: This person was on this boat, and maybe you. 1111 01:07:07,200 --> 01:07:08,160 Speaker 5: Can find them again. 1112 01:07:10,200 --> 01:07:13,960 Speaker 1: That's the smartest thing, he said. Not because it's not 1113 01:07:14,040 --> 01:07:16,919 Speaker 1: because it helps Michean, but because it keeps her off 1114 01:07:16,920 --> 01:07:19,960 Speaker 1: of your ass. Okay, you should have been coming up 1115 01:07:19,960 --> 01:07:22,200 Speaker 1: with the ideas to keep her further from you, Right, 1116 01:07:22,480 --> 01:07:25,200 Speaker 1: you can't fight. You didn't lie to the woman twenty 1117 01:07:25,200 --> 01:07:28,200 Speaker 1: seven times. It ain't it ain't no fucking munitions on 1118 01:07:28,240 --> 01:07:31,320 Speaker 1: the island. It's time to come clean. It's time to 1119 01:07:31,360 --> 01:07:33,440 Speaker 1: get her out off the island with you. The last 1120 01:07:33,440 --> 01:07:35,440 Speaker 1: place you want to be is on the island with 1121 01:07:35,480 --> 01:07:38,280 Speaker 1: Micheaue because she will end up having to kill you. 1122 01:07:38,280 --> 01:07:42,040 Speaker 1: You done burn the boat, like come on the person. 1123 01:07:42,160 --> 01:07:44,640 Speaker 1: The patience of job the only thing that saved you. Man, 1124 01:07:46,520 --> 01:07:49,760 Speaker 1: Micheaue must be a good godfair woman because he deserved death. 1125 01:07:51,280 --> 01:07:54,480 Speaker 1: But yeah, so then okay, yeah, I think the writer 1126 01:07:54,600 --> 01:07:57,280 Speaker 1: said believe a little longer or something like that. Anyway, 1127 01:07:58,440 --> 01:08:02,160 Speaker 1: So then Seowan gets on the boat. But before they 1128 01:08:02,200 --> 01:08:04,160 Speaker 1: hopping on the boat, the people are coming with her 1129 01:08:04,440 --> 01:08:06,880 Speaker 1: and she's like, you could come to Virgil. And he 1130 01:08:07,040 --> 01:08:08,840 Speaker 1: was like, I'm gonna stay on the island. I don't 1131 01:08:08,840 --> 01:08:10,600 Speaker 1: think they're gonna give me another chance. And she was 1132 01:08:10,640 --> 01:08:13,560 Speaker 1: like it'll take time, but they'll give you a chance. 1133 01:08:13,640 --> 01:08:17,080 Speaker 1: And I was like, Michelle would know. Glenn Eugene like 1134 01:08:17,720 --> 01:08:22,720 Speaker 1: second chances do happen in the epoch. But he rightfully 1135 01:08:22,760 --> 01:08:24,800 Speaker 1: and smartly says, I'm gonna stay on the island. You know, 1136 01:08:24,840 --> 01:08:27,439 Speaker 1: I promise. I promise the flowers every day, So he 1137 01:08:27,520 --> 01:08:30,160 Speaker 1: gonna stay on the island get higher for all the 1138 01:08:30,240 --> 01:08:31,719 Speaker 1: gemson weed he can drink. 1139 01:08:32,600 --> 01:08:34,479 Speaker 2: He just died it because nobody else is probably even 1140 01:08:34,479 --> 01:08:35,400 Speaker 2: alive on the island. 1141 01:08:35,479 --> 01:08:39,679 Speaker 1: MM hmm, you're gonna die with gemson weed overdose hanging 1142 01:08:39,720 --> 01:08:43,320 Speaker 1: out of those grades. So like that's all, that's all. 1143 01:08:43,600 --> 01:08:45,559 Speaker 1: That's the last we're gonna see a Virgil, it seems. 1144 01:08:46,600 --> 01:08:48,439 Speaker 1: But he stays on the island. The other people go 1145 01:08:48,520 --> 01:08:58,840 Speaker 1: with him, and then there Michean gives Judith a call. Also, 1146 01:08:58,880 --> 01:09:01,759 Speaker 1: if you played the Walking Dead video game, the ma shone, 1147 01:09:03,360 --> 01:09:05,840 Speaker 1: so Walking Dad had a Telltale Games and they had 1148 01:09:05,840 --> 01:09:09,360 Speaker 1: a Michelle version and it reminded me of Michelle on 1149 01:09:09,400 --> 01:09:11,479 Speaker 1: the boat in the game because she she was on 1150 01:09:11,520 --> 01:09:13,880 Speaker 1: the you know, on the boat in the game. Uh, 1151 01:09:13,960 --> 01:09:19,360 Speaker 1: let's get to this this call though, So she's looking 1152 01:09:19,400 --> 01:09:22,360 Speaker 1: at the iPhone with the etching on it and just crying, 1153 01:09:24,200 --> 01:09:27,400 Speaker 1: and at some point she gives Judith a ring. Let 1154 01:09:27,479 --> 01:09:33,240 Speaker 1: me see, this is so cute. 1155 01:09:34,760 --> 01:09:38,880 Speaker 2: Choto chilto, are you there? 1156 01:09:39,000 --> 01:09:43,599 Speaker 1: It's Dieto. They caught themselves. Uh I thing. It's Soto 1157 01:09:43,880 --> 01:09:48,960 Speaker 1: and Dieto, which is two different types of Japanese swords, 1158 01:09:49,320 --> 01:09:53,280 Speaker 1: and they're and they're different sizes. So I just thought 1159 01:09:53,280 --> 01:09:56,480 Speaker 1: that was that's cute. 1160 01:09:57,160 --> 01:10:10,280 Speaker 2: Choto you all the anyone. 1161 01:10:06,479 --> 01:10:12,920 Speaker 16: I'm here, thank you, you've been trying you. 1162 01:10:15,000 --> 01:10:16,920 Speaker 8: I'm sorry, I'm here. 1163 01:10:16,960 --> 01:10:18,920 Speaker 16: Now are you still with Virgil? 1164 01:10:19,439 --> 01:10:19,479 Speaker 2: No? 1165 01:10:20,479 --> 01:10:22,360 Speaker 3: But I've found three people on the island and. 1166 01:10:22,400 --> 01:10:23,679 Speaker 14: I'll go back home. 1167 01:10:25,680 --> 01:10:29,560 Speaker 8: I've missed you and your brother, Old Mama. 1168 01:10:31,920 --> 01:10:36,040 Speaker 16: A call signs for safety. 1169 01:10:38,000 --> 01:10:42,360 Speaker 2: Hey baby, and who are you? 1170 01:10:43,200 --> 01:10:53,160 Speaker 8: Oh? I love little brave man. How long have you 1171 01:10:53,200 --> 01:10:53,960 Speaker 8: been with your sister? 1172 01:10:54,040 --> 01:10:54,840 Speaker 4: Little brave man? 1173 01:10:56,120 --> 01:10:57,600 Speaker 16: Te Rosita brought me. 1174 01:11:01,520 --> 01:11:01,920 Speaker 8: Judith? 1175 01:11:04,920 --> 01:11:06,760 Speaker 5: Oh, I can't receive that cooco doing? 1176 01:11:07,840 --> 01:11:08,120 Speaker 16: Okay? 1177 01:11:08,240 --> 01:11:13,919 Speaker 2: I guess better household anything with the whispers. 1178 01:11:18,920 --> 01:11:28,080 Speaker 16: We got her mom, we got my cook boy. I 1179 01:11:28,320 --> 01:11:29,519 Speaker 16: fu can't hurt us anymore? 1180 01:11:34,560 --> 01:11:35,400 Speaker 1: Do you would have done? 1181 01:11:36,280 --> 01:11:37,639 Speaker 16: Always make that eye when you're worn? 1182 01:11:38,680 --> 01:11:39,000 Speaker 3: Do not. 1183 01:11:41,200 --> 01:11:41,400 Speaker 5: Now? 1184 01:11:42,240 --> 01:11:42,280 Speaker 2: So? 1185 01:11:44,120 --> 01:11:46,479 Speaker 1: Or have we skipped forward in time? And is this 1186 01:11:46,640 --> 01:11:50,920 Speaker 1: when this call is happening? Or is Judith lying to 1187 01:11:51,200 --> 01:11:54,400 Speaker 1: make Micheau feel more ease? What do you think? 1188 01:11:55,200 --> 01:11:57,240 Speaker 2: I think that they know that? 1189 01:11:57,760 --> 01:11:57,880 Speaker 4: Uh? 1190 01:11:58,200 --> 01:12:02,519 Speaker 1: She dead? So you think he's telling the truth? Alpha 1191 01:12:02,720 --> 01:12:05,240 Speaker 1: is dead. They've destroyed most of the whore and they 1192 01:12:05,280 --> 01:12:08,519 Speaker 1: are safe for now. Yes, okay, all right? Cool? 1193 01:12:08,600 --> 01:12:08,800 Speaker 9: Cool? 1194 01:12:08,960 --> 01:12:11,479 Speaker 1: Because I couldn't tell because judas so fucking smart and grown. 1195 01:12:12,160 --> 01:12:13,720 Speaker 1: I wouldn't have put it past her to be like, 1196 01:12:14,080 --> 01:12:16,400 Speaker 1: let me just say this to my mom to ease 1197 01:12:16,479 --> 01:12:17,040 Speaker 1: her fears. 1198 01:12:17,439 --> 01:12:19,960 Speaker 2: You know, what and particularly after her that conversation with Earl, 1199 01:12:20,160 --> 01:12:20,920 Speaker 2: I could see that. 1200 01:12:21,479 --> 01:12:23,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, so I didn't know. 1201 01:12:31,080 --> 01:12:36,000 Speaker 8: I found something what I was looking for on the island, 1202 01:12:36,040 --> 01:12:41,120 Speaker 8: but something else, something that could be really important to 1203 01:12:41,360 --> 01:12:41,880 Speaker 8: all of us. 1204 01:12:45,280 --> 01:12:46,080 Speaker 1: What do you mean. 1205 01:12:49,040 --> 01:12:52,479 Speaker 8: I found something that belonged to the Brave Man. 1206 01:12:54,720 --> 01:12:56,599 Speaker 11: And that place that he might have been. 1207 01:12:58,120 --> 01:13:01,439 Speaker 8: Recently. I don't know what any of it means yet, 1208 01:13:01,840 --> 01:13:03,200 Speaker 8: or if it means anything at all. 1209 01:13:04,400 --> 01:13:09,519 Speaker 16: Mom, is he alive? 1210 01:13:12,240 --> 01:13:15,240 Speaker 1: Right there? She broke cold. She didn't say the cold 1211 01:13:15,360 --> 01:13:18,160 Speaker 1: name Dieto, and she just said, Mom. I was like, 1212 01:13:18,280 --> 01:13:19,799 Speaker 1: look at this little baby acting. 1213 01:13:20,240 --> 01:13:23,280 Speaker 2: Oh she's been acting out of ass off ever since 1214 01:13:23,280 --> 01:13:24,040 Speaker 2: she's been on the show. 1215 01:13:25,400 --> 01:13:28,160 Speaker 8: I don't know, baby, That's what I'm saying. 1216 01:13:29,160 --> 01:13:29,680 Speaker 11: I don't know. 1217 01:13:31,680 --> 01:13:33,240 Speaker 16: But if you think she's alive, then you have to 1218 01:13:33,320 --> 01:13:33,920 Speaker 16: go find him. 1219 01:13:34,800 --> 01:13:39,200 Speaker 2: No, no, not now your brother need me and everything 1220 01:13:39,240 --> 01:13:40,320 Speaker 2: going on in Alexandria. 1221 01:13:40,640 --> 01:13:44,320 Speaker 1: Mom, you have to go. 1222 01:13:46,160 --> 01:13:46,600 Speaker 6: I have to. 1223 01:13:46,640 --> 01:13:52,479 Speaker 8: You're okay? 1224 01:13:55,360 --> 01:14:01,000 Speaker 16: What if he needs you more? What if he's trying 1225 01:14:01,040 --> 01:14:13,720 Speaker 16: to come home to but no one will help if 1226 01:14:13,760 --> 01:14:20,720 Speaker 16: I go, When you go, and when you're frank him okay. 1227 01:14:21,240 --> 01:14:31,599 Speaker 8: Okay, when I go, I'm be the praise man, rap 1228 01:14:31,640 --> 01:14:33,439 Speaker 8: the coach, I have to go. 1229 01:14:34,320 --> 01:14:35,280 Speaker 16: What's my uncle John? 1230 01:14:36,640 --> 01:14:36,840 Speaker 2: I know? 1231 01:14:39,040 --> 01:14:39,800 Speaker 1: Oh my god? 1232 01:14:40,320 --> 01:14:43,599 Speaker 2: So uh maybe put that glory to your out? 1233 01:14:43,880 --> 01:14:47,360 Speaker 1: Did she like that girl was acting shot shout that 1234 01:14:47,520 --> 01:14:49,320 Speaker 1: shout out to her? She acted that ship. 1235 01:14:49,160 --> 01:14:51,840 Speaker 2: Down and she know her mama and they are literally 1236 01:14:51,880 --> 01:14:54,599 Speaker 2: two peas in the pod and she and she knows 1237 01:14:54,680 --> 01:14:57,960 Speaker 2: this hurts her mama not to be with them, but 1238 01:14:58,120 --> 01:15:03,400 Speaker 2: she also understood and that if she comes back, it 1239 01:15:03,439 --> 01:15:05,759 Speaker 2: would hurt her more not to be out there looking 1240 01:15:06,520 --> 01:15:10,160 Speaker 2: for him versus trying to protect them. When she's like, hey, 1241 01:15:10,880 --> 01:15:15,040 Speaker 2: I got this, you know from her perspective. 1242 01:15:15,160 --> 01:15:19,200 Speaker 1: Now, the one thing I will say, I knew that 1243 01:15:19,280 --> 01:15:21,439 Speaker 1: this would be the nagarea's exit from the show because 1244 01:15:21,479 --> 01:15:24,320 Speaker 1: all this stuff had leaked. We also knew that she's 1245 01:15:25,000 --> 01:15:29,840 Speaker 1: gonna be involved in movies with Drew Lincoln, who plays Rick, 1246 01:15:30,120 --> 01:15:32,639 Speaker 1: because they're still planning on doing those like Rick Ryme's movies. 1247 01:15:34,640 --> 01:15:37,240 Speaker 1: But part of me felt like the way they've written Michean, 1248 01:15:37,520 --> 01:15:41,840 Speaker 1: I can't imagine the scenario when she leaves Judith for 1249 01:15:41,960 --> 01:15:45,679 Speaker 1: any fucking reason. Judith and RJ. She wouldn't. There would 1250 01:15:45,760 --> 01:15:47,439 Speaker 1: never be a way for her to exit the show 1251 01:15:47,479 --> 01:15:51,599 Speaker 1: and for those kids to stay. But after that scene, 1252 01:15:51,960 --> 01:15:56,280 Speaker 1: I honestly was like, oh yeah, yeah, she's going to 1253 01:15:56,400 --> 01:16:00,640 Speaker 1: go get their daddy and concern right, and now you 1254 01:16:00,840 --> 01:16:04,280 Speaker 1: can't go back to those babies without that man, Like 1255 01:16:04,720 --> 01:16:07,320 Speaker 1: you definitely can't go back and be like I just 1256 01:16:07,400 --> 01:16:10,639 Speaker 1: didn't feel like trying. I needed to take care of y'all. 1257 01:16:10,880 --> 01:16:12,720 Speaker 1: This is the woman that went out there every day 1258 01:16:12,760 --> 01:16:16,160 Speaker 1: to that river for like six fucking years. So it 1259 01:16:16,280 --> 01:16:19,920 Speaker 1: didn't make sense. After this scene. It flipped out all 1260 01:16:20,000 --> 01:16:22,400 Speaker 1: my thinking in my head from it don't make sense 1261 01:16:22,520 --> 01:16:25,479 Speaker 1: to not go. You know, Plus we know Judip can 1262 01:16:25,560 --> 01:16:28,760 Speaker 1: handle herself and she's surrounded by people that's taking care 1263 01:16:28,800 --> 01:16:30,920 Speaker 1: of her. And then she also told them the threat 1264 01:16:31,320 --> 01:16:35,040 Speaker 1: was you know oufha, and the Horde is taken care 1265 01:16:35,080 --> 01:16:35,519 Speaker 1: of for now. 1266 01:16:35,680 --> 01:16:38,479 Speaker 2: We'll see if she sell them truth later time. And 1267 01:16:38,920 --> 01:16:45,719 Speaker 2: also the way that this is going, they can literally 1268 01:16:45,880 --> 01:16:47,639 Speaker 2: even if it's for an episode or two, they can 1269 01:16:47,760 --> 01:16:50,880 Speaker 2: literally come back like like they made it where you know, 1270 01:16:51,080 --> 01:16:53,080 Speaker 2: Judith might be a teenager because you know, they could 1271 01:16:53,080 --> 01:16:54,640 Speaker 2: do tom jumps. 1272 01:16:54,960 --> 01:16:58,000 Speaker 1: And Rick could be like a, well, I hope they 1273 01:16:58,040 --> 01:16:59,920 Speaker 1: don't do that too much because honestly, I hope that 1274 01:17:00,160 --> 01:17:03,760 Speaker 1: keep Judith. Oh yeah, this age. But I think the 1275 01:17:03,880 --> 01:17:06,160 Speaker 1: Rick movies might cover the past and be like what 1276 01:17:06,320 --> 01:17:08,600 Speaker 1: he's been up to for six years. Rick could be 1277 01:17:08,760 --> 01:17:13,559 Speaker 1: like a prisoner somewhere. Rick could be trapped like Rick. 1278 01:17:13,680 --> 01:17:16,080 Speaker 1: So when she said, what if he needs your help? Like, 1279 01:17:16,479 --> 01:17:18,519 Speaker 1: because that's the thing you gotta be thinking. If Rick 1280 01:17:18,600 --> 01:17:21,240 Speaker 1: ain't made it back and he's alive, maybe he the 1281 01:17:21,360 --> 01:17:23,439 Speaker 1: one that need some help. You know, I can see 1282 01:17:23,439 --> 01:17:25,120 Speaker 1: if he's a black man and he just assumed he 1283 01:17:25,200 --> 01:17:29,760 Speaker 1: left his children, but since he's not, since it is 1284 01:17:29,800 --> 01:17:32,800 Speaker 1: a pure arian white man, it's make no sense for 1285 01:17:32,880 --> 01:17:34,080 Speaker 1: this man not do want to come home. 1286 01:17:34,560 --> 01:17:36,680 Speaker 2: I mean, they took his boots. Y'all know he never 1287 01:17:36,760 --> 01:17:37,960 Speaker 2: takes some boots off his feet. 1288 01:17:38,040 --> 01:17:40,040 Speaker 1: I mean I could see them. Damn chats is getting 1289 01:17:40,080 --> 01:17:42,439 Speaker 1: on his nerves when he left. Or if he would 1290 01:17:42,439 --> 01:17:44,120 Speaker 1: have said I'm going down to the bridge to save 1291 01:17:44,240 --> 01:17:46,120 Speaker 1: us from some zombies and also I'm gonna get a 1292 01:17:46,160 --> 01:17:48,400 Speaker 1: pack of cigarettes now, then I would have said that 1293 01:17:48,560 --> 01:17:51,120 Speaker 1: man left his children. But you know, we saw what 1294 01:17:51,200 --> 01:17:53,920 Speaker 1: happened to Rick, so you know, I hope he's alive 1295 01:17:54,120 --> 01:17:56,120 Speaker 1: and we need to know why the fuck he ain't 1296 01:17:56,160 --> 01:17:58,200 Speaker 1: been home. What if she just find him, save him 1297 01:17:58,280 --> 01:18:00,559 Speaker 1: kill all these people and then be like, love, shit, 1298 01:18:00,600 --> 01:18:02,320 Speaker 1: have brought your ass home last night. 1299 01:18:02,520 --> 01:18:04,280 Speaker 2: I don't think that's how it's gonna go. And I 1300 01:18:04,400 --> 01:18:06,639 Speaker 2: forgot she went the junk He with the junk yard, lady. 1301 01:18:06,720 --> 01:18:07,920 Speaker 2: I bet you they got separated. 1302 01:18:09,320 --> 01:18:11,040 Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know. That's the thing I 1303 01:18:11,160 --> 01:18:13,559 Speaker 1: want to see, because I mean, it's been six years, 1304 01:18:13,640 --> 01:18:15,280 Speaker 1: so something had to happen to keep him from going. 1305 01:18:15,360 --> 01:18:16,880 Speaker 1: He was moving, heaving and earth to get back to 1306 01:18:16,880 --> 01:18:19,240 Speaker 1: his kids. Come on, like, does he have amnesia? Now? 1307 01:18:19,560 --> 01:18:19,600 Speaker 2: Like? 1308 01:18:20,439 --> 01:18:23,519 Speaker 1: What the what the fuck could have happened? All right? Uh, 1309 01:18:23,760 --> 01:18:27,240 Speaker 1: let's get to y'all feedback of my right saying the 1310 01:18:27,400 --> 01:18:31,720 Speaker 1: Tale of Virgil the sorriest nigga in the epop? Did 1311 01:18:31,800 --> 01:18:34,640 Speaker 1: y'all ever think we see a day when Gabe the 1312 01:18:34,800 --> 01:18:37,880 Speaker 1: introduction of Gabe wasn't the sorriest nigga in the epop? 1313 01:18:38,160 --> 01:18:38,320 Speaker 2: Right? 1314 01:18:39,520 --> 01:18:43,800 Speaker 1: Even everybody hates Chris lived did better than him. He did, 1315 01:18:44,560 --> 01:18:47,960 Speaker 1: Like this dude was the worst. Hey, y'all, last episode 1316 01:18:48,040 --> 01:18:50,720 Speaker 1: the Niagan Carroll thing shocked me. Now I'm shook us 1317 01:18:50,760 --> 01:18:54,920 Speaker 1: by this macheone episode. Oh my god, Oh let me 1318 01:18:54,960 --> 01:18:58,800 Speaker 1: move this. Oh my god. I was sole damn tense. 1319 01:18:59,240 --> 01:19:01,880 Speaker 1: Virgil has been having black women do his emotional or 1320 01:19:01,920 --> 01:19:04,960 Speaker 1: mental labor, his whole damn life and failing them. Uh, 1321 01:19:05,720 --> 01:19:09,360 Speaker 1: wasting our girl's time, burning her boat, drugging her. Then 1322 01:19:09,560 --> 01:19:11,880 Speaker 1: she still gave him her here to listen to his 1323 01:19:12,080 --> 01:19:16,640 Speaker 1: sorry ass short story. I can't. I'm so glad he 1324 01:19:16,680 --> 01:19:18,639 Speaker 1: didn't get on that boat. Even though I didn't see 1325 01:19:18,680 --> 01:19:21,519 Speaker 1: season one through eight, I got the gift that it 1326 01:19:21,640 --> 01:19:24,320 Speaker 1: was an alternate reality micheone. That was really cool. How 1327 01:19:24,400 --> 01:19:26,439 Speaker 1: they put her in the bat scene seemed like a 1328 01:19:26,520 --> 01:19:29,000 Speaker 1: fitting send off. I was looking forward to her coming 1329 01:19:29,080 --> 01:19:30,920 Speaker 1: back to the group Guns of Blazing, But this is 1330 01:19:30,960 --> 01:19:34,120 Speaker 1: a pretty a nice goodbye too. Yeah, man, I'm so 1331 01:19:34,200 --> 01:19:35,720 Speaker 1: glad he didn't hop on that boat because he would 1332 01:19:35,720 --> 01:19:38,439 Speaker 1: have probably ran some more game. Hey, I think I'll 1333 01:19:38,479 --> 01:19:40,640 Speaker 1: go to New Jersey with you too. You know my 1334 01:19:40,760 --> 01:19:44,240 Speaker 1: wife is in New Jersey, My wife and my kids 1335 01:19:44,360 --> 01:19:46,720 Speaker 1: up there with Rick. What you just told me your 1336 01:19:46,760 --> 01:19:49,360 Speaker 1: wife and kids were dad? Then we just bury your 1337 01:19:49,479 --> 01:19:53,080 Speaker 1: hated wife and kids. One last thing. I see that 1338 01:19:53,240 --> 01:19:55,639 Speaker 1: it works to let it. I see that it works 1339 01:19:55,680 --> 01:19:58,000 Speaker 1: to let the character go. For Judith, not to tell 1340 01:19:58,040 --> 01:20:00,640 Speaker 1: her that the hilltop burned down but where do you 1341 01:20:00,800 --> 01:20:03,840 Speaker 1: even begin looking for one man in the zpop because 1342 01:20:03,840 --> 01:20:06,200 Speaker 1: you found his boots in a drawing. That's crazy to me. 1343 01:20:06,600 --> 01:20:08,559 Speaker 1: And to leave your babies over this, man, I guess 1344 01:20:08,600 --> 01:20:11,120 Speaker 1: I don't love my husband that much because no way 1345 01:20:11,120 --> 01:20:12,800 Speaker 1: would I leave my daughter to go on the quest 1346 01:20:12,880 --> 01:20:15,800 Speaker 1: to find him. I guess that's regular love. And Rick, 1347 01:20:16,160 --> 01:20:19,240 Speaker 1: there's regular love and Rick Griand's love. Next episode looks 1348 01:20:19,240 --> 01:20:22,320 Speaker 1: awesome to love you guys of mine. Well, man, let's 1349 01:20:22,360 --> 01:20:25,320 Speaker 1: think about this. I'm not trying to hate on your children, 1350 01:20:25,840 --> 01:20:28,599 Speaker 1: but are any of them capable, like in the way 1351 01:20:28,640 --> 01:20:30,639 Speaker 1: that Judith is capable? Like you think? 1352 01:20:30,720 --> 01:20:30,800 Speaker 2: Yo? 1353 01:20:31,040 --> 01:20:31,360 Speaker 1: You think? 1354 01:20:32,080 --> 01:20:34,720 Speaker 2: Cause yo, those children do does not have that capability? 1355 01:20:34,760 --> 01:20:37,800 Speaker 1: Are your kids? Are your kids killing grown ass people 1356 01:20:37,840 --> 01:20:39,400 Speaker 1: in Chili cold blood or nah? 1357 01:20:40,680 --> 01:20:40,880 Speaker 2: You know? 1358 01:20:41,000 --> 01:20:44,840 Speaker 1: I feel like once you kill zombie Earl and that 1359 01:20:45,040 --> 01:20:47,800 Speaker 1: that one whisperer, I feel like it's a different level of. 1360 01:20:47,880 --> 01:20:49,160 Speaker 2: Your kids catching bodies. 1361 01:20:49,439 --> 01:20:51,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's not the same kids you just left this 1362 01:20:51,760 --> 01:20:54,479 Speaker 1: morning that was eating Scooby snacks at the cereal and 1363 01:20:55,280 --> 01:20:57,920 Speaker 1: watch a TV cartoon network. This is ain't the same 1364 01:20:58,000 --> 01:20:58,599 Speaker 1: kind of kids. 1365 01:20:59,600 --> 01:21:00,719 Speaker 2: Senheim a toast crunch. 1366 01:21:01,080 --> 01:21:06,439 Speaker 1: Yeah, so I think Judas is capable. Uh. Secondly, I mean, 1367 01:21:06,520 --> 01:21:09,920 Speaker 1: it's not about it being Rick that I'm talking about. 1368 01:21:10,520 --> 01:21:14,000 Speaker 1: It's about it being ma shown Machean gonna find that, man, 1369 01:21:15,160 --> 01:21:16,920 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Like if it was me, 1370 01:21:17,479 --> 01:21:19,760 Speaker 1: I mean I might have a hard I can't even 1371 01:21:19,840 --> 01:21:24,240 Speaker 1: fucking get downtown without fucking you know, the the map 1372 01:21:24,320 --> 01:21:25,920 Speaker 1: quest telling me which way to go, and shit, I 1373 01:21:26,000 --> 01:21:28,760 Speaker 1: need Google Google. I need Google Maps to be like 1374 01:21:28,880 --> 01:21:32,720 Speaker 1: taking left on Western Boulevard. Macheon can find that. Man. 1375 01:21:32,880 --> 01:21:36,160 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, we skipped the part. What Uh it's seven things, 1376 01:21:36,439 --> 01:21:37,720 Speaker 2: not seven things but two things one. 1377 01:21:38,720 --> 01:21:38,840 Speaker 4: Uh. 1378 01:21:39,439 --> 01:21:43,080 Speaker 2: At the end, they had docked on the land and 1379 01:21:43,200 --> 01:21:45,760 Speaker 2: so she was actually own the land walking and ended 1380 01:21:45,840 --> 01:21:47,479 Speaker 2: up finding walking. 1381 01:21:47,800 --> 01:21:51,120 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you're right, I forgot about that. Yeah, it 1382 01:21:51,280 --> 01:21:53,400 Speaker 1: was so small. I don't know how I forgot this. 1383 01:21:53,560 --> 01:21:55,120 Speaker 1: But this is the biggest part of the episode. It's 1384 01:21:55,120 --> 01:21:57,439 Speaker 1: one of the reasons, it's actually the reason I came 1385 01:21:57,479 --> 01:21:59,720 Speaker 1: around on this episode and I love it now. Is 1386 01:21:59,800 --> 01:22:03,479 Speaker 1: at the very end, she's got two zombies tied up 1387 01:22:03,560 --> 01:22:07,400 Speaker 1: to rope. She's got her like old school Maseean vibe back, 1388 01:22:07,520 --> 01:22:13,240 Speaker 1: and she's walking like towards New Jersey and she sees 1389 01:22:13,280 --> 01:22:15,000 Speaker 1: some people that need help in the woods. One of 1390 01:22:15,040 --> 01:22:18,360 Speaker 1: them is limping really bad, and a woman is helping them. 1391 01:22:18,400 --> 01:22:20,720 Speaker 1: It's a black man and a white woman. And at 1392 01:22:20,760 --> 01:22:24,720 Speaker 1: first I was hoping it would be Heath, but he 1393 01:22:24,960 --> 01:22:30,640 Speaker 1: might be with Rick. So then she, uh, They're like, 1394 01:22:30,680 --> 01:22:33,760 Speaker 1: can you help us please? They're gonna leave us, and 1395 01:22:33,880 --> 01:22:38,680 Speaker 1: so she comes over and she like sees them and 1396 01:22:38,680 --> 01:22:41,720 Speaker 1: they're like, please, you gotta help us, and they she 1397 01:22:41,880 --> 01:22:44,639 Speaker 1: looks over a ridge down into a valley and there 1398 01:22:44,840 --> 01:22:48,519 Speaker 1: is a caravan of more people than we have ever 1399 01:22:48,760 --> 01:22:50,439 Speaker 1: seen in the z pop. 1400 01:22:50,479 --> 01:22:52,200 Speaker 2: I don't think she initially seen those people. 1401 01:22:52,320 --> 01:22:54,680 Speaker 1: She didn't know, so she looked down at like she's like, 1402 01:22:54,720 --> 01:22:57,320 Speaker 1: who is dad? Who's leaving? And when she's seen that 1403 01:22:57,520 --> 01:23:01,400 Speaker 1: many fucking people, it was obvious like, okay, this is 1404 01:23:01,479 --> 01:23:03,320 Speaker 1: some new ship. Yeah. She was like they was like, 1405 01:23:03,439 --> 01:23:06,160 Speaker 1: they won't wait, we've seen her as a zombies. We've 1406 01:23:06,200 --> 01:23:07,960 Speaker 1: never seen her that many people. 1407 01:23:08,040 --> 01:23:09,720 Speaker 2: Right, And she was actually walking with the zombis. She 1408 01:23:09,760 --> 01:23:11,840 Speaker 2: turned around and killed the zombis, actually scared them. 1409 01:23:12,080 --> 01:23:14,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, and then she put her hand out and said, 1410 01:23:14,640 --> 01:23:17,400 Speaker 1: you know, come on, and she's she's gonna help them. 1411 01:23:17,439 --> 01:23:19,719 Speaker 1: So that was it. I'm sorry, I forgot that, no problem. 1412 01:23:19,920 --> 01:23:22,000 Speaker 2: And then as there as they're walking if I'm not 1413 01:23:22,479 --> 01:23:26,640 Speaker 2: if I if I remember right, they actually did the 1414 01:23:26,760 --> 01:23:31,040 Speaker 2: scene when Uh Macheone walked up to the. 1415 01:23:32,560 --> 01:23:35,400 Speaker 1: Prison. Yes, at the like one of the last they 1416 01:23:35,600 --> 01:23:39,120 Speaker 1: just opposed it with when Macheone needed help. She was 1417 01:23:39,160 --> 01:23:43,880 Speaker 1: sitting outside the prison bleeding after Andrea habitrayed her and 1418 01:23:45,680 --> 01:23:48,400 Speaker 1: Carl and the governor tried to kill her, and Carl 1419 01:23:48,600 --> 01:23:53,400 Speaker 1: was saying to Uh to his daddy Rick, like, you know, 1420 01:23:53,560 --> 01:23:57,040 Speaker 1: she needs our help, and Rick was like, what's your name? 1421 01:23:57,400 --> 01:23:59,400 Speaker 1: And this was back when Machean wouldn't even tell them 1422 01:23:59,439 --> 01:24:03,560 Speaker 1: her name. She wouldn't talk to them. They had to 1423 01:24:03,600 --> 01:24:06,320 Speaker 1: put her in a cell when she wouldn't let them 1424 01:24:06,360 --> 01:24:09,240 Speaker 1: hear her like she had been through so much shit. 1425 01:24:09,920 --> 01:24:13,240 Speaker 1: And I think that was you know, okay, cool, you 1426 01:24:13,320 --> 01:24:17,160 Speaker 1: know what we they because they helped me. I'm a 1427 01:24:17,240 --> 01:24:18,640 Speaker 1: person who helps other people. 1428 01:24:18,760 --> 01:24:23,120 Speaker 2: Right, And I think that that relationship with Rick and 1429 01:24:23,240 --> 01:24:29,200 Speaker 2: her seeing that alternate UH life that she would have had, 1430 01:24:29,880 --> 01:24:32,479 Speaker 2: I think is very important to her to do those things. 1431 01:24:32,520 --> 01:24:35,480 Speaker 2: Show grace, show mercy, show compassion and understanding. 1432 01:24:36,280 --> 01:24:38,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, so yeah, I forgot about that part. That's the 1433 01:24:38,880 --> 01:24:41,000 Speaker 1: most important part. Of the fucking show because that's what 1434 01:24:41,160 --> 01:24:42,640 Speaker 1: made me like it, because I was like, oh, this 1435 01:24:42,720 --> 01:24:45,600 Speaker 1: is actually a hopeful ending. It makes me feel like 1436 01:24:45,800 --> 01:24:49,920 Speaker 1: Micheon's gonna one civilization can happen, and Machean's gonna go 1437 01:24:50,040 --> 01:24:54,360 Speaker 1: find this her man, you know, and she still help people. 1438 01:24:54,560 --> 01:24:56,479 Speaker 2: Yeah, and who knows and who's in that group. Maggie 1439 01:24:56,560 --> 01:24:58,479 Speaker 2: might be in that group. Who the fuck knows who's 1440 01:24:58,520 --> 01:24:58,920 Speaker 2: down there? 1441 01:24:59,240 --> 01:25:03,080 Speaker 1: Yep, so you know, yeah, maybe Maggie Heath all the 1442 01:25:03,120 --> 01:25:07,599 Speaker 1: people that's not dead that's missing, right, So Beth Wrights 1443 01:25:07,680 --> 01:25:10,519 Speaker 1: in Hi, Morrow's hope you and your loved ones are 1444 01:25:10,560 --> 01:25:14,160 Speaker 1: Corona free and thank you for the amazing podcast. I'll 1445 01:25:14,200 --> 01:25:16,719 Speaker 1: make this quick. I love the episode, but I'm confused 1446 01:25:16,760 --> 01:25:19,040 Speaker 1: as the why Machean would leave RJ, especially after the 1447 01:25:19,080 --> 01:25:21,799 Speaker 1: way she lost her first son and turned her partner 1448 01:25:21,840 --> 01:25:24,280 Speaker 1: and friend into her pets to punish them for their negligence. 1449 01:25:24,560 --> 01:25:27,360 Speaker 1: Would she wanted to say goodbye to RJ two. I'm 1450 01:25:27,400 --> 01:25:30,280 Speaker 1: also really confused as to why such an empowered woman 1451 01:25:30,360 --> 01:25:33,840 Speaker 1: would prioritize her missing man over her community. Doesn't it 1452 01:25:33,920 --> 01:25:36,040 Speaker 1: feel like the Lost finale where it wasn't about the 1453 01:25:36,120 --> 01:25:38,240 Speaker 1: island or the strange things on the Island, but it 1454 01:25:38,360 --> 01:25:42,760 Speaker 1: was about love and soul mats. I mean one, I 1455 01:25:42,880 --> 01:25:45,240 Speaker 1: kind of we've kind of explained our point of view 1456 01:25:45,280 --> 01:25:47,240 Speaker 1: on it. But the other thing I would throw out 1457 01:25:47,280 --> 01:25:50,760 Speaker 1: there too that for me that work that is the 1458 01:25:50,880 --> 01:25:53,800 Speaker 1: fact that in real life the actress wants to move 1459 01:25:53,840 --> 01:25:56,760 Speaker 1: on from the show. So the only other option in 1460 01:25:56,840 --> 01:25:59,120 Speaker 1: a situation like this is to either take the kids 1461 01:25:59,200 --> 01:26:01,760 Speaker 1: off of the show, so now those actor, that actor, 1462 01:26:01,800 --> 01:26:03,880 Speaker 1: and that actress no longer get to be on the show, 1463 01:26:04,400 --> 01:26:07,160 Speaker 1: which would fucking suck. Judah is such a cool character, 1464 01:26:08,560 --> 01:26:12,120 Speaker 1: and or you kill her because the only other options 1465 01:26:12,160 --> 01:26:15,080 Speaker 1: you really have, you know what I mean, maybe imprison 1466 01:26:15,200 --> 01:26:17,200 Speaker 1: her and have her, you know, caught, and then we'd 1467 01:26:17,200 --> 01:26:19,160 Speaker 1: be like, what will someone really be able to capture? 1468 01:26:19,200 --> 01:26:21,439 Speaker 1: MI seown she's such a badass. So I don't know, 1469 01:26:21,479 --> 01:26:23,519 Speaker 1: I feel like other options and the ways to lead 1470 01:26:23,560 --> 01:26:24,920 Speaker 1: the show, this is one of the few ways you 1471 01:26:24,960 --> 01:26:26,160 Speaker 1: can leave it on a hopeful note. 1472 01:26:26,479 --> 01:26:31,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, And also I guess for me, I personally think 1473 01:26:31,280 --> 01:26:34,920 Speaker 2: that she knows that they'll be fine, if that makes sense, 1474 01:26:35,000 --> 01:26:37,400 Speaker 2: Like she like, it's not like she's leaving them in 1475 01:26:37,479 --> 01:26:40,320 Speaker 2: the hands of strangers, or she's like she's leaving them 1476 01:26:40,360 --> 01:26:42,880 Speaker 2: in the hand people not capable of taking care of them. 1477 01:26:43,439 --> 01:26:47,680 Speaker 2: Is like Judith confirmed, Mama, we good like and I 1478 01:26:47,880 --> 01:26:51,439 Speaker 2: think the biggest reason why she even decided because you 1479 01:26:51,800 --> 01:26:55,000 Speaker 2: pushed her. You know that can't be ignored. Judith was like, yeah, 1480 01:26:55,120 --> 01:26:55,920 Speaker 2: go get my daddy. 1481 01:26:56,000 --> 01:26:58,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, go go get my dad. Also, I don't know 1482 01:26:58,200 --> 01:27:00,479 Speaker 1: if people remember, but when we started this season, she 1483 01:27:00,720 --> 01:27:03,040 Speaker 1: was going out to the river still to check on Rick, 1484 01:27:03,880 --> 01:27:07,320 Speaker 1: like she would like, like, she's not over. She she 1485 01:27:07,560 --> 01:27:11,280 Speaker 1: never really believe he's dead. No, she just stopped going 1486 01:27:11,360 --> 01:27:14,640 Speaker 1: out there, but she never really took it in as 1487 01:27:14,720 --> 01:27:17,240 Speaker 1: like Rick is dead. She loves that man and thinks 1488 01:27:17,240 --> 01:27:20,760 Speaker 1: he's alive. And you know, I think on a priority level, 1489 01:27:20,840 --> 01:27:24,360 Speaker 1: she would be like, my kids are safe. Yeah, the 1490 01:27:24,439 --> 01:27:26,479 Speaker 1: same because if we're gonna make this logic, it's the 1491 01:27:26,520 --> 01:27:28,599 Speaker 1: same logic for why she went to get the munitions. 1492 01:27:29,400 --> 01:27:32,479 Speaker 1: She said, I'll take the short chance. I'm not gonna 1493 01:27:32,560 --> 01:27:33,760 Speaker 1: let you just take this chance with me. 1494 01:27:34,200 --> 01:27:36,920 Speaker 2: And you want to go, dude, all right, Mama, let's ride. 1495 01:27:36,920 --> 01:27:38,519 Speaker 1: She was like, you can't go with it. And she 1496 01:27:38,680 --> 01:27:42,400 Speaker 1: was also like, and I'm not going to I'm not 1497 01:27:42,560 --> 01:27:46,760 Speaker 1: gonna to to to to go and involve my child. 1498 01:27:47,200 --> 01:27:49,800 Speaker 1: But I'm also, you know, not gonna just not go. 1499 01:27:50,760 --> 01:27:54,040 Speaker 1: So I think she's and I think she feels getting 1500 01:27:54,120 --> 01:27:57,360 Speaker 1: Rick back is better for her, not just her community, 1501 01:27:57,439 --> 01:28:00,280 Speaker 1: but her family. I think she's like, getting the father 1502 01:28:00,360 --> 01:28:05,120 Speaker 1: of my children back is fucking important to me because 1503 01:28:05,120 --> 01:28:05,679 Speaker 1: I don't. 1504 01:28:05,479 --> 01:28:07,920 Speaker 2: Think he's dead right. Because the thing is, the whole 1505 01:28:08,000 --> 01:28:11,160 Speaker 2: time she was there, reason why she got irritated with 1506 01:28:11,360 --> 01:28:13,320 Speaker 2: him was because she was like, look, I gotta get 1507 01:28:13,320 --> 01:28:15,000 Speaker 2: back to my keys. That was her whole thing. Her 1508 01:28:15,040 --> 01:28:16,680 Speaker 2: whole thing was I gotta get back to my kids. 1509 01:28:16,720 --> 01:28:17,240 Speaker 2: Gotta get back. 1510 01:28:17,280 --> 01:28:19,519 Speaker 1: Well, that's a art that's actually more to what Beth's saying. 1511 01:28:20,520 --> 01:28:22,240 Speaker 1: That's what Beth's saying is like, Oh, she want to 1512 01:28:22,280 --> 01:28:24,439 Speaker 1: get back to her kids so bad she would even 1513 01:28:24,479 --> 01:28:26,400 Speaker 1: be like, well, fuck, Rick, I need to get back 1514 01:28:26,400 --> 01:28:26,920 Speaker 1: to my kids. 1515 01:28:27,120 --> 01:28:29,280 Speaker 2: I think that was her mind frame until she's seen 1516 01:28:29,360 --> 01:28:32,240 Speaker 2: those boots and all that other shit, and and then 1517 01:28:32,560 --> 01:28:34,599 Speaker 2: there was a shift in the change. I still think 1518 01:28:34,640 --> 01:28:35,760 Speaker 2: that she was going to come back. 1519 01:28:36,080 --> 01:28:40,240 Speaker 1: I think pushing her right, I think she was gonna 1520 01:28:40,280 --> 01:28:42,519 Speaker 1: come back even with all that shit. But once she 1521 01:28:42,680 --> 01:28:46,559 Speaker 1: told her daughter, essentially I think your dad could be alive. 1522 01:28:46,640 --> 01:28:49,080 Speaker 1: But I'm not sure. Her daughter's like, be fucking sure, 1523 01:28:49,920 --> 01:28:53,800 Speaker 1: that's my daddy, Like please, like it's okay, you know. 1524 01:28:54,000 --> 01:28:56,120 Speaker 1: And I think we, you know, because we believe in 1525 01:28:56,160 --> 01:29:00,240 Speaker 1: the capabilities of Michean. We're not sitting around thinking she 1526 01:29:00,360 --> 01:29:02,120 Speaker 1: gonna go up there and die with thinking like she 1527 01:29:02,200 --> 01:29:04,040 Speaker 1: gonna go up there and get it done because she's Michean. 1528 01:29:04,160 --> 01:29:06,519 Speaker 1: Say what I feel about Carol, I feel about Michean. 1529 01:29:06,760 --> 01:29:11,200 Speaker 1: She would have minded some shit. It's happening, yes, sir. Also, 1530 01:29:11,360 --> 01:29:13,400 Speaker 1: if Rick was that close to ocean side, why didn't 1531 01:29:13,400 --> 01:29:15,240 Speaker 1: he just go there? It's so silly. I don't know it. 1532 01:29:15,280 --> 01:29:17,880 Speaker 1: Could be in prison, could be injured, could have amnesia. 1533 01:29:18,640 --> 01:29:21,720 Speaker 1: I mean, don't you want to know? Uh, don't get 1534 01:29:21,760 --> 01:29:23,519 Speaker 1: me wrong. I love this episode and I would risk 1535 01:29:23,600 --> 01:29:26,559 Speaker 1: it all for Rick Nigga. I was just surprised they 1536 01:29:26,640 --> 01:29:29,240 Speaker 1: went this way. I love loved Michean and Virgil together. 1537 01:29:29,800 --> 01:29:33,439 Speaker 1: Love how crazy Virgil was. I was screaming, really Virgil 1538 01:29:33,479 --> 01:29:36,719 Speaker 1: an acid trip, loved all turned the story where Machean 1539 01:29:36,840 --> 01:29:40,200 Speaker 1: worked for Nigga, and look forward to the Rashon spinoff. 1540 01:29:41,560 --> 01:29:43,400 Speaker 1: And it's the end of one of my favorite characters 1541 01:29:43,439 --> 01:29:45,120 Speaker 1: and one of my favorite love stories. We were so 1542 01:29:45,280 --> 01:29:49,200 Speaker 1: lucky Deny existed in her heart and was hired to 1543 01:29:49,200 --> 01:29:51,519 Speaker 1: play this role. I can't imagine anyone else in it. 1544 01:29:51,600 --> 01:29:54,200 Speaker 1: Thank you, Tony, I stay safe and beautiful, Beth. I agree. 1545 01:29:54,280 --> 01:29:54,679 Speaker 1: I agree. 1546 01:29:54,800 --> 01:29:56,960 Speaker 2: I loved her in this role, and they did this 1547 01:29:57,120 --> 01:29:59,920 Speaker 2: role differently than they did in the comic. 1548 01:30:00,680 --> 01:30:03,479 Speaker 1: We also don't know when he was on that boat. 1549 01:30:03,840 --> 01:30:07,240 Speaker 1: We don't know if, like what if he was on 1550 01:30:07,360 --> 01:30:11,240 Speaker 1: that boat, they stole his shit and he's somewhere, you know, 1551 01:30:11,479 --> 01:30:13,280 Speaker 1: like he might not be in New Jersey. 1552 01:30:13,439 --> 01:30:15,200 Speaker 2: He might be on another continent. 1553 01:30:15,320 --> 01:30:17,720 Speaker 1: He could be any fucking where, like she just going 1554 01:30:17,800 --> 01:30:20,240 Speaker 1: to find out. You know, I can understand, like I said, 1555 01:30:21,320 --> 01:30:24,040 Speaker 1: the reasoning from both sides, and the thing I always 1556 01:30:24,080 --> 01:30:26,120 Speaker 1: think about with this show and pretty much every show 1557 01:30:26,160 --> 01:30:32,719 Speaker 1: I watch, when they take leaps of like imagination, they say, listen, 1558 01:30:32,800 --> 01:30:35,599 Speaker 1: we want you to suspend realism for a little bit 1559 01:30:35,800 --> 01:30:36,880 Speaker 1: for the sake of his story. 1560 01:30:37,000 --> 01:30:37,160 Speaker 13: Right. 1561 01:30:37,520 --> 01:30:39,320 Speaker 1: Even the fact that she went on that boat and 1562 01:30:39,439 --> 01:30:42,400 Speaker 1: found that room and found his shit, even that is 1563 01:30:42,479 --> 01:30:46,200 Speaker 1: such a leap of faith. Right, What would be a 1564 01:30:46,320 --> 01:30:49,160 Speaker 1: better story the story where she goes I'm not gonna 1565 01:30:49,200 --> 01:30:52,080 Speaker 1: go and she comes back home to R J. And 1566 01:30:52,320 --> 01:30:54,200 Speaker 1: m and then what they have to kill her something 1567 01:30:54,200 --> 01:30:56,519 Speaker 1: because we know the actress is leaving, or they switch 1568 01:30:56,600 --> 01:30:59,360 Speaker 1: out actors or something like what's the better story at 1569 01:30:59,400 --> 01:31:02,200 Speaker 1: this point? You know? Because I think the better story 1570 01:31:02,360 --> 01:31:05,360 Speaker 1: is to continue to see where that romance goes, to 1571 01:31:05,640 --> 01:31:08,439 Speaker 1: continue with action and having those characters still around and 1572 01:31:08,520 --> 01:31:10,000 Speaker 1: be on the show and do those movies. 1573 01:31:10,520 --> 01:31:14,360 Speaker 2: And I think this also gives people something that a 1574 01:31:14,439 --> 01:31:17,040 Speaker 2: lot of people who some of them have left complained about, 1575 01:31:17,080 --> 01:31:20,280 Speaker 2: was hope, Like this actually gives people hope that hey, 1576 01:31:20,360 --> 01:31:22,680 Speaker 2: she's going out to look for Rent and possibility high 1577 01:31:22,760 --> 01:31:26,800 Speaker 2: probability that she will find him, or at least before 1578 01:31:26,880 --> 01:31:29,880 Speaker 2: she find him, find other people that she's had relationships 1579 01:31:29,880 --> 01:31:32,519 Speaker 2: within the past. Like it's just gonna be. It's almost 1580 01:31:32,560 --> 01:31:34,519 Speaker 2: like that they'll branch it off into another journey. 1581 01:31:35,439 --> 01:31:39,080 Speaker 1: Yeah. Someone said, I'm still on the mini screen, but 1582 01:31:39,280 --> 01:31:41,880 Speaker 1: I'm not sharing my screen anymore. I'm still We're still 1583 01:31:41,920 --> 01:31:42,960 Speaker 1: minimized on your page. 1584 01:31:43,400 --> 01:31:44,320 Speaker 2: We're big on mine. 1585 01:31:44,840 --> 01:31:48,760 Speaker 1: Okay, is anyone else having that issue? Okay? All right? Cool? 1586 01:31:48,840 --> 01:31:51,240 Speaker 1: So just I just just kim doc is having that issue? 1587 01:31:51,720 --> 01:31:55,800 Speaker 1: Resh baby, So wait, so is everyone having an issue 1588 01:31:55,920 --> 01:31:59,560 Speaker 1: or not? Okay? All right, Well, some people having the 1589 01:31:59,840 --> 01:32:03,720 Speaker 1: all right, well, I guess, well this is weird as fuck. 1590 01:32:03,880 --> 01:32:07,840 Speaker 1: Some people don't. Maybe y'all should refresh. I'm not refreshing. 1591 01:32:08,000 --> 01:32:10,519 Speaker 1: Y'all refreshed. I think it's y'all. So some of y'all 1592 01:32:10,560 --> 01:32:13,679 Speaker 1: got Verizon and some of y'all got Sprint. Okay, I'll see, 1593 01:32:14,720 --> 01:32:16,880 Speaker 1: I'll see. Okay, let's figure this out real quick. 1594 01:32:16,920 --> 01:32:18,200 Speaker 2: And some of y'all got AT and T. 1595 01:32:18,479 --> 01:32:21,840 Speaker 1: Who got the new iPhones? Okay, who got the new 1596 01:32:21,880 --> 01:32:25,200 Speaker 1: Google phone? All right? Miss Marns said she refreshing. It's 1597 01:32:25,200 --> 01:32:28,000 Speaker 1: still small. All right, I'll refresh. I'll refresh on my side. 1598 01:32:28,040 --> 01:32:32,519 Speaker 1: Give me a second, everyone, man, that's super weird, all right, 1599 01:32:33,760 --> 01:32:37,000 Speaker 1: So ms Barnes right saying I love this episode of 1600 01:32:37,080 --> 01:32:40,000 Speaker 1: Walking Dead. Just when I think there's no more story 1601 01:32:40,080 --> 01:32:42,360 Speaker 1: that can be told, Angela keeps tap dancing on our 1602 01:32:42,479 --> 01:32:45,000 Speaker 1: next I was so, I was hope. It was hopeful, 1603 01:32:45,000 --> 01:32:47,120 Speaker 1: beautiful and a perfect send off for the not Yeah, 1604 01:32:47,120 --> 01:32:50,519 Speaker 1: I really dug the hope. Uh the micheone Alton in 1605 01:32:50,640 --> 01:32:54,160 Speaker 1: universe was fantastic storytelling. How fitting that she would just 1606 01:32:54,479 --> 01:32:57,920 Speaker 1: just keep it, keep it moving. From Andrea be Nigan's 1607 01:32:58,000 --> 01:33:01,120 Speaker 1: right hand woman taking out glenning them and then finally 1608 01:33:01,160 --> 01:33:03,240 Speaker 1: get a Darryl Arrow and a Rick taking her out. 1609 01:33:03,720 --> 01:33:05,840 Speaker 1: She is now on the mission to find her Rick 1610 01:33:05,960 --> 01:33:08,120 Speaker 1: and Lord. I hope that she will find him. Also 1611 01:33:08,200 --> 01:33:13,120 Speaker 1: shout out to the Sitsidik Visions and King Batch cameo, 1612 01:33:14,160 --> 01:33:20,519 Speaker 1: thank you for the recap, thank you for listening, and yeah, 1613 01:33:20,600 --> 01:33:24,680 Speaker 1: it's just so interesting that, like I said, it's just 1614 01:33:24,760 --> 01:33:32,000 Speaker 1: so interesting that the Macheone alternate universe version of the 1615 01:33:32,160 --> 01:33:35,320 Speaker 1: Darkest Machone or whatever was still kind of like I 1616 01:33:35,400 --> 01:33:37,559 Speaker 1: still kind of liked her. I still understood a reason. 1617 01:33:37,680 --> 01:33:41,240 Speaker 1: She didn't just become like a completely evil caricature. She 1618 01:33:41,439 --> 01:33:45,640 Speaker 1: was like still defending herself. She still had integrity. She 1619 01:33:45,720 --> 01:33:48,799 Speaker 1: still she killed ricking them for I mean, she bashed 1620 01:33:48,800 --> 01:33:52,040 Speaker 1: in fake Michaud's head for a reason. You know, I 1621 01:33:52,200 --> 01:33:53,040 Speaker 1: think the. 1622 01:33:53,120 --> 01:33:55,800 Speaker 2: Core her character didn't change. It's just like what would 1623 01:33:55,840 --> 01:33:58,280 Speaker 2: happen if certain the Dominoes fell a different path. 1624 01:33:58,479 --> 01:34:02,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, I like that, ken Wright said Rod and Karen. 1625 01:34:02,320 --> 01:34:04,240 Speaker 1: I was looking forward to this episode, but it was 1626 01:34:04,280 --> 01:34:08,040 Speaker 1: a bit disappointed with the tripping angle because I've never 1627 01:34:08,160 --> 01:34:10,839 Speaker 1: really been into that. Regardless, I do appreciate this episode 1628 01:34:10,960 --> 01:34:13,439 Speaker 1: stuck with the who you meet first, makes you who 1629 01:34:13,520 --> 01:34:16,559 Speaker 1: you are in the Zpoch, even beyond the tripping, Virgil 1630 01:34:16,600 --> 01:34:18,640 Speaker 1: plays Macheon in a way that I would not have 1631 01:34:18,760 --> 01:34:21,320 Speaker 1: thought she could be played. Machean enters the room first 1632 01:34:21,720 --> 01:34:24,240 Speaker 1: on many occasions and gives Virgil way too many chances 1633 01:34:24,320 --> 01:34:26,240 Speaker 1: to redeem himself. But there are some questions that need 1634 01:34:26,360 --> 01:34:28,560 Speaker 1: to be answered. Well, you know what. To me, that 1635 01:34:28,680 --> 01:34:31,600 Speaker 1: was also Micheon's confidence of knowing she could kick his 1636 01:34:31,720 --> 01:34:35,000 Speaker 1: ass at any point, and that that was the she 1637 01:34:35,120 --> 01:34:38,439 Speaker 1: got played. That's what Eugene gets about on like that 1638 01:34:38,640 --> 01:34:40,800 Speaker 1: that thing where people like I can whoop your ass 1639 01:34:40,960 --> 01:34:44,160 Speaker 1: if push comes to shove, and you know with cowards 1640 01:34:44,280 --> 01:34:47,920 Speaker 1: that you know they know that too, Oh like more 1641 01:34:47,960 --> 01:34:52,600 Speaker 1: than is Daddy, he does that. Yes, one, Mashon is 1642 01:34:52,680 --> 01:34:55,160 Speaker 1: in prison with group two. Where are the other groups 1643 01:34:55,200 --> 01:34:56,759 Speaker 1: that we see painted on the board? 1644 01:34:57,800 --> 01:34:58,320 Speaker 2: Different groups? 1645 01:34:58,400 --> 01:35:00,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was five different groups, but uh, they may 1646 01:35:00,920 --> 01:35:03,640 Speaker 1: be those I think you saw them. You know they 1647 01:35:03,680 --> 01:35:07,000 Speaker 1: were zombies hanging from that was his that was his family. 1648 01:35:07,200 --> 01:35:11,200 Speaker 1: I'm saying them zombies that she killed them was them. 1649 01:35:11,280 --> 01:35:15,320 Speaker 1: Groups like stim used to like. 1650 01:35:15,520 --> 01:35:17,640 Speaker 2: It's spreading on the island and there was nowhere to 1651 01:35:17,720 --> 01:35:19,160 Speaker 2: go to. 1652 01:35:19,400 --> 01:35:21,479 Speaker 1: What group is it that she meets up with at 1653 01:35:21,520 --> 01:35:24,479 Speaker 1: the end. I don't know, man, I don't know. That 1654 01:35:24,600 --> 01:35:26,679 Speaker 1: could be a completely new group. You know this show 1655 01:35:27,560 --> 01:35:32,680 Speaker 1: the show Man. They're so good at that. Think it's 1656 01:35:32,720 --> 01:35:34,800 Speaker 1: not from the comics. It's not from the comics, that 1657 01:35:34,880 --> 01:35:37,599 Speaker 1: group like that. I'm not saying it can't be one 1658 01:35:37,600 --> 01:35:40,000 Speaker 1: of the groups from the comics, but that's no. That 1659 01:35:40,520 --> 01:35:43,439 Speaker 1: caravan is not a characteristic of anything from the comics. 1660 01:35:43,520 --> 01:35:43,760 Speaker 2: It's not. 1661 01:35:44,560 --> 01:35:47,280 Speaker 1: Y'all, Stay safe out here in these coronavirus streets. Love 1662 01:35:47,320 --> 01:35:52,439 Speaker 1: the podcast swag. Let's see, I think we got two 1663 01:35:52,760 --> 01:35:58,200 Speaker 1: more kim dot right saying Virgil the scammer, ain't he? Hey, y'all, 1664 01:35:59,160 --> 01:36:02,280 Speaker 1: I'm happy that Dina can spread our wings a flyaway 1665 01:36:02,360 --> 01:36:04,559 Speaker 1: to the roads that she longed for walking. Dad has 1666 01:36:04,560 --> 01:36:07,519 Speaker 1: been amazing with her in all fastest wanted to snuff 1667 01:36:07,600 --> 01:36:10,680 Speaker 1: that nigga Virgil five hundred and twenty five thousand, six 1668 01:36:10,800 --> 01:36:14,560 Speaker 1: hundred times micheone hemmed him up in every way, in 1669 01:36:14,680 --> 01:36:17,840 Speaker 1: every room, and against every tree. It seemed a patient 1670 01:36:17,920 --> 01:36:21,400 Speaker 1: was supreme. Listen, that's a lot of men pay good 1671 01:36:21,439 --> 01:36:24,000 Speaker 1: money to have the nagarea straddle them and slam them 1672 01:36:24,080 --> 01:36:28,280 Speaker 1: up against things. Okay, seeing her with Nigan as his 1673 01:36:28,439 --> 01:36:31,439 Speaker 1: right hand was terrifying. I was seeing her with Nigan 1674 01:36:31,600 --> 01:36:34,479 Speaker 1: as his right hand was terrifying. Honestly, I think it's 1675 01:36:34,560 --> 01:36:37,080 Speaker 1: far fetched that ricking them when if Micheon is on 1676 01:36:37,120 --> 01:36:42,439 Speaker 1: the other side, but handwave, handwave whatever and shit, yeah haha, 1677 01:36:42,680 --> 01:36:44,360 Speaker 1: I mean they still would have to plot armor so 1678 01:36:44,439 --> 01:36:47,240 Speaker 1: they'd be okay. And so Deek was dropping harsh bombs 1679 01:36:47,280 --> 01:36:50,240 Speaker 1: on her. That was definitely her bestie over the years. Yo, 1680 01:36:50,320 --> 01:36:53,559 Speaker 1: what if they would have took what if they would 1681 01:36:53,560 --> 01:36:55,600 Speaker 1: have took it to the next level and instead of 1682 01:36:56,439 --> 01:36:59,400 Speaker 1: Machean getting killed, Nigan gets killed. But then Maheon is 1683 01:36:59,439 --> 01:37:02,720 Speaker 1: the one against on in the cell and Alexandria, like 1684 01:37:02,840 --> 01:37:04,559 Speaker 1: they took it all the way that far. That would 1685 01:37:04,560 --> 01:37:05,439 Speaker 1: be crazy, yeah, you. 1686 01:37:05,479 --> 01:37:07,800 Speaker 2: Know, and it would not be surprising if her Nigan 1687 01:37:07,880 --> 01:37:11,880 Speaker 2: had an intimate relationship like a really titan class I disagree. 1688 01:37:12,280 --> 01:37:14,800 Speaker 1: Oh you mean sexually, yes, no, no way, it would 1689 01:37:14,920 --> 01:37:18,080 Speaker 1: never happen. This nigga got too he got a hairing 1690 01:37:18,120 --> 01:37:20,680 Speaker 1: full of women. Michean would be like Paula and the 1691 01:37:20,880 --> 01:37:23,479 Speaker 1: other women that was in the game, but they don't 1692 01:37:23,520 --> 01:37:24,880 Speaker 1: fuck nobody because. 1693 01:37:25,080 --> 01:37:27,080 Speaker 2: Because they made their way over and I'm not doing 1694 01:37:27,120 --> 01:37:27,439 Speaker 2: that shit. 1695 01:37:27,640 --> 01:37:30,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, they she like Nigga, I earned my way. I'm 1696 01:37:30,200 --> 01:37:33,280 Speaker 1: not fucking you and you got twelve wives on the way, yo, 1697 01:37:33,320 --> 01:37:36,360 Speaker 1: Dick Ben, I'm here for the movies and the reunion. 1698 01:37:36,400 --> 01:37:39,240 Speaker 1: Can't wait. Judah telling her to go in definitive fashion 1699 01:37:39,479 --> 01:37:43,759 Speaker 1: was awesome. Shows got an end with a whole reunion 1700 01:37:43,800 --> 01:37:45,760 Speaker 1: of Rick Mashon and their kids in the perfect world. 1701 01:37:45,920 --> 01:37:48,719 Speaker 1: That's well earned love and like him, Doc, that would 1702 01:37:48,760 --> 01:37:51,880 Speaker 1: be so, that would be a dope fitting ending. If 1703 01:37:51,960 --> 01:37:55,280 Speaker 1: they right themselves to a point where we get Rick Macheon, 1704 01:37:55,720 --> 01:37:59,920 Speaker 1: r J and and Judah together and that's just the 1705 01:38:00,120 --> 01:38:02,680 Speaker 1: last shot that we see. I'll be okay with that 1706 01:38:03,000 --> 01:38:05,360 Speaker 1: me too, you know. Like I know people think that 1707 01:38:05,439 --> 01:38:07,000 Speaker 1: we need a cure for the z pocket shit. I 1708 01:38:07,040 --> 01:38:10,200 Speaker 1: don't think you do, all right? Last one two du 1709 01:38:10,280 --> 01:38:12,400 Speaker 1: Taurus right saying Hey, Rod and Karen, have you heard? 1710 01:38:12,439 --> 01:38:15,240 Speaker 1: The Walking Dead season finale, episode sixteen is being delayed 1711 01:38:15,320 --> 01:38:18,559 Speaker 1: due to the post production not being completed. The effects 1712 01:38:18,600 --> 01:38:21,200 Speaker 1: team is not working due to COVID nineteen and slash 1713 01:38:21,240 --> 01:38:24,000 Speaker 1: that at home. Episode fifteen will be the season finale. 1714 01:38:24,080 --> 01:38:26,439 Speaker 1: Episode sixteen will air as a special later in the year. 1715 01:38:26,960 --> 01:38:31,280 Speaker 1: See attached screenshots I did not notice Walking Dead Twitter account. 1716 01:38:31,960 --> 01:38:34,360 Speaker 1: Current events have unfortunately made it impossible to complete post 1717 01:38:34,400 --> 01:38:37,560 Speaker 1: reduction of the Walking Dead season ten finale. So the 1718 01:38:37,640 --> 01:38:41,919 Speaker 1: current season will end with season fifth with fifteenth episode 1719 01:38:41,960 --> 01:38:48,040 Speaker 1: on April fifth. Ooh so on April fifth. Oh wait, 1720 01:38:48,120 --> 01:38:50,680 Speaker 1: now that's about right. Yeah, because we at thirteen, so 1721 01:38:50,840 --> 01:38:56,240 Speaker 1: fourteen and at fifteen and the plan finale will appear 1722 01:38:56,280 --> 01:38:58,080 Speaker 1: as a special episode later in the year. 1723 01:39:01,320 --> 01:39:05,040 Speaker 2: You rona, Yeah, man, well, you know what the game 1724 01:39:05,080 --> 01:39:07,719 Speaker 2: for everybody to see w shows everything is out of whack. 1725 01:39:08,320 --> 01:39:10,720 Speaker 1: Wash your hands, don't touch your face until you know, 1726 01:39:10,840 --> 01:39:14,080 Speaker 1: we get this finaleon because we gotta come on, gotta 1727 01:39:14,160 --> 01:39:14,680 Speaker 1: be here for that. 1728 01:39:14,880 --> 01:39:15,080 Speaker 4: Man. 1729 01:39:15,400 --> 01:39:20,120 Speaker 2: So that sucks, right, Ryan. And they're saying that they've 1730 01:39:20,200 --> 01:39:23,680 Speaker 2: done studies that states that shut it down, like California 1731 01:39:23,680 --> 01:39:25,639 Speaker 2: and New York. They was like the cases are going down. 1732 01:39:25,680 --> 01:39:27,559 Speaker 2: There was like places it was like the only way 1733 01:39:27,600 --> 01:39:29,439 Speaker 2: to break the chain. Yeah, cases just like, oh, do 1734 01:39:29,520 --> 01:39:31,519 Speaker 2: what you want to the cases are going up. 1735 01:39:31,960 --> 01:39:34,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's the only way to break the chain. Unfortunately. 1736 01:39:34,320 --> 01:39:36,360 Speaker 1: You know, anyway, I'm not doing the Corona thing today. 1737 01:39:36,600 --> 01:39:37,920 Speaker 1: What are you looking forward to next week? 1738 01:39:42,000 --> 01:39:45,360 Speaker 2: What's happening in Alexandria and if jud was telling the truth, 1739 01:39:46,200 --> 01:39:50,280 Speaker 2: and how Beta's gonna respond once he founds find that 1740 01:39:50,360 --> 01:39:50,960 Speaker 2: Alpha's dead. 1741 01:39:51,320 --> 01:39:55,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, my number one thing is Beta once he finds 1742 01:39:55,080 --> 01:39:57,759 Speaker 1: out what they did the Alpha, because in the preview 1743 01:39:57,880 --> 01:39:59,920 Speaker 1: they look like they left her head on a spike 1744 01:40:00,120 --> 01:40:03,320 Speaker 1: at the border. And I think that's why I don't 1745 01:40:03,320 --> 01:40:06,360 Speaker 1: think Judith is lying. I think they think the ship 1746 01:40:06,479 --> 01:40:09,599 Speaker 1: is over and the ship can't possibly be fucking over 1747 01:40:11,720 --> 01:40:15,479 Speaker 1: like that, like, no, no way, you know? 1748 01:40:16,640 --> 01:40:20,080 Speaker 2: Oh oh do you think that? I mean, of course 1749 01:40:20,120 --> 01:40:22,240 Speaker 2: some people still gonna say fun, But do you think 1750 01:40:22,320 --> 01:40:24,479 Speaker 2: their attitude towards Nigga gonna be different when they find 1751 01:40:24,479 --> 01:40:29,680 Speaker 2: out he killed are No. 1752 01:40:29,920 --> 01:40:31,840 Speaker 1: Well, that's the thing I don't know, like because Aaron, 1753 01:40:31,920 --> 01:40:33,880 Speaker 1: we have to reconcide the shit with Aaron. I can 1754 01:40:33,920 --> 01:40:35,680 Speaker 1: see them still giving them the cold shoulder. I mean, 1755 01:40:35,760 --> 01:40:39,200 Speaker 1: he did kill their friends, like you know, I can see. 1756 01:40:39,320 --> 01:40:40,880 Speaker 1: I can see a lot going on. So I'm just 1757 01:40:40,920 --> 01:40:43,080 Speaker 1: looking forward to that next week because I think that'll 1758 01:40:43,120 --> 01:40:46,280 Speaker 1: be a fun place to start bummed out and out here. 1759 01:40:46,520 --> 01:40:49,360 Speaker 1: Not about the episode sixteen thing, but hopefully they get 1760 01:40:49,400 --> 01:40:52,280 Speaker 1: back sooner than later. Yeah, and I understand yep, So 1761 01:40:52,400 --> 01:40:53,599 Speaker 1: we just want them to be safe. 1762 01:40:53,680 --> 01:40:55,280 Speaker 2: So I ain't you to be able to do it. 1763 01:40:55,479 --> 01:40:58,000 Speaker 1: I don't want nobody, you know, down set fucking with 1764 01:40:58,080 --> 01:41:01,120 Speaker 1: that COVID. Man. Shit is here getting people right now. 1765 01:41:01,880 --> 01:41:04,800 Speaker 1: All right, y'all until next time. This was so fun, 1766 01:41:05,400 --> 01:41:08,280 Speaker 1: you know, like every every week, you know, it's kind 1767 01:41:08,320 --> 01:41:12,040 Speaker 1: of built in decompression from all that news that we 1768 01:41:12,200 --> 01:41:15,400 Speaker 1: covered and just being able to talk about this show, 1769 01:41:15,920 --> 01:41:18,439 Speaker 1: especially at this point and the way we talk about it, 1770 01:41:18,560 --> 01:41:23,400 Speaker 1: it's really it's really like a release. I wish everybody 1771 01:41:23,479 --> 01:41:26,439 Speaker 1: could have stayed into it and still had fun, but 1772 01:41:26,520 --> 01:41:29,560 Speaker 1: I understand some people just couldn't take any shortcomings of 1773 01:41:29,640 --> 01:41:32,559 Speaker 1: the show and all that stuff. So in a low 1774 01:41:32,680 --> 01:41:34,559 Speaker 1: key way, man, I'm kind of glad they going because 1775 01:41:34,560 --> 01:41:38,439 Speaker 1: they were yucking my yum and now just young Now 1776 01:41:38,520 --> 01:41:40,879 Speaker 1: it's just yum yng yum. Like I love these reviews. 1777 01:41:40,920 --> 01:41:43,760 Speaker 1: I love all this stuff, and thank you. I love 1778 01:41:43,800 --> 01:41:45,920 Speaker 1: watching it with you, Karen, and I love recapping it. 1779 01:41:46,040 --> 01:41:48,680 Speaker 1: So all right, y'all, we'll talk to y'all later. Thank 1780 01:41:48,720 --> 01:41:52,240 Speaker 1: you so much for listening. Until Saturday, we do our 1781 01:41:52,280 --> 01:41:56,840 Speaker 1: feedback show and this too much. We haven't planned when 1782 01:41:56,880 --> 01:42:00,320 Speaker 1: we're doing the finale yet me and bossill get together 1783 01:42:00,360 --> 01:42:02,880 Speaker 1: and let people know, and I'm sure balls these sports 1784 01:42:03,240 --> 01:42:06,920 Speaker 1: it would be either probably tomorrow night. So until then, 1785 01:42:07,040 --> 01:42:07,439 Speaker 1: I love you. 1786 01:42:07,560 --> 01:42:08,080 Speaker 2: I love you too. 1787 01:42:08,240 --> 01:42:08,479 Speaker 1: Woh