Speaker 1: Look out. It's only films to be buried with the Resurrection. Hello,
Speaker 1: and welcome to films to be buried with the Resurrection.
Speaker 1: My name is Brett Goldstein. I'm a comedian, an actor,
Speaker 1: a writer, a director, a Bonsai gardener, and I love films.
Speaker 1: As David Beckham once said, people just assume over the
Speaker 1: years that soccer players are not intelligent. As with most assumptions,
Speaker 1: they're wrong. I've watched the Kristoph Kislovski Three Colors trilogy
Speaker 1: and I really not only understood it, I loved it.
Speaker 1: Fair Play, David, excellent films, good shout. Every week I
Speaker 1: invite a special guest over. I tell them they've died.
Speaker 1: Then I get them to discuss their life through the
Speaker 1: films that meant the most of them. But not this week.
Speaker 1: This week I use my newly acquired shamanic powers to
Speaker 1: bring back a former guest from the dead, and I
Speaker 1: asked them twelve brand new questions. And this week it
Speaker 1: is the return of the brilliant mister Scrubius Pip. Head
Speaker 1: over to the Patreon at patreon dot com forward Slashbrett Goldstein,
Speaker 1: where you'll get twenty minutes extra chat questions a secret.
Speaker 1: The whole thing is an uncut video ad. Free all
Speaker 1: of that and more over at patreon dot com. Forward
Speaker 1: Slashbrett Goldstein your TV homework as always, watch Ted Lasso
Speaker 1: on the Apple TV app and watch Soulmates on Amazon Prime.
Speaker 1: One will make you happy, the other will make you
Speaker 1: question your relationships. July third, I will be doing a
Speaker 1: live Films to be Buried with at the Underbelly Festival
Speaker 1: with an amazing guest. Get your tickets online somewhere on
Speaker 1: the internet. Look it up. Films will be buried with
Speaker 1: live podcast Underbelly Festival. I'll see you there, a real
Speaker 1: life thing with people in the room and everything like that.
Speaker 1: What right, This is episode one hundred and fifty. You
Speaker 1: come a long way, baby, I said I'd do two
Speaker 1: hundred of these. We are three quarters of the way there,
Speaker 1: So thank you all for listening and making this so special.
Speaker 1: I do really appreciate it. It It was just a thing
Speaker 1: to try, and here we are, one hundred and fifty
Speaker 1: episodes later, and I thought to celebrate this one, I
Speaker 1: would resurrect the robot Overlord, the master of the Distraction
Speaker 1: Pieces Network, and the man who helped and encouraged me
Speaker 1: to start this podcast in the first place, the actor, artist,
Speaker 1: podcaster and corner boy himself, mister Scrubious Pip. We recorded
Speaker 1: this a couple of weeks back. It was a very
Speaker 1: lovely time and very nice to catch up with him.
Speaker 1: I think you will love it. So thank you once
Speaker 1: again to everyone who listens to this show. And that
Speaker 1: is it for now. I very much hope you enjoy
Speaker 1: episode one hundred and fifty of Films to be Buried
Speaker 1: with the Resurrection. No, I think I'm good. Yesterday I
Speaker 1: thought I've not got any good answers for any of
Speaker 1: these questions, and then I had a pooh fleshed him
Speaker 1: out and I think some crackers. Now, okay you want
Speaker 1: Hello and welcome to Films to be Buried with the Resurrection.
Speaker 1: I am joined today by an actor, a writer, a rapper,
Speaker 1: a poet, a runner, a salmon uplifter, a beard wrestler,
Speaker 1: a MMA referee, a podcaster, a writer, and a human
Speaker 1: robot man. Please welcome to the show. The man, the legend,
Speaker 1: the corner Boy himself is mister scrimas Bet. Hello, mate, Hi,
Speaker 1: how are you welcome back to the show. It's exciting
Speaker 1: to be back, mate. I'm glad you've highlighted the uplifting
Speaker 1: of the of the salmon community. I do. I really
Speaker 1: put a lot of time into building their spirits. Forgot
Speaker 1: what it's called salmon ladder. It's a salmon ladder. You
Speaker 1: know a lot of people say that I'm responsible for
Speaker 1: their motivation to swim upstream. You're just at the side
Speaker 1: of the rivers going go on, Lad's good Scooby's Pip.
Speaker 1: Since we last spoke, you've had quite the life blood Dale.
Speaker 1: Now tell the listeners. You got a massive part in
Speaker 1: a massive, huge NBC show called Debris. Congratulations. You went
Speaker 1: off to Canada to film it, and then Canada went
Speaker 1: into lockdown and you were trapped to the house for
Speaker 1: how long before you started filming? Well, there was two
Speaker 1: months before I started filming. So the pandemic started while
Speaker 1: we were finishing the pilot, so I got to come home.
Speaker 1: I was on set on the Friday night at like
Speaker 1: one am, and then I was on a plane by
Speaker 1: about eleven o'clock on the Saturday because they were about
Speaker 1: to close all the airports. Sometimes get me home. And
Speaker 1: then I assumed the pilot was dead and it wasn't
Speaker 1: going to happen and then we got taken to series,
Speaker 1: so I flew back out and yeah, all sorts of delays,
Speaker 1: none of which COVID related really other than the two
Speaker 1: week quarantine. It meant. Yeah, it was two months of
Speaker 1: being in an airbnb before I made it to set.
Speaker 1: And I think that is the longest scene ever shot,
Speaker 1: because the first thing I was doing was wrapping up
Speaker 1: the pilot, So that pilot was, or that scene in
Speaker 1: the pilot was nine months in making. How long does
Speaker 1: it play on screen? Under a minute? I'd say under
Speaker 1: a minute, and they edited it as well, probably under
Speaker 1: thirty seconds. Wedd me this Now, what's interesting about you?
Speaker 1: I know you, and you know I'm a fan. You
Speaker 1: tend to you like the idea of being alone. You
Speaker 1: like to do stuff. You're what you know, troubling was
Speaker 1: the word troubling loaner, scary loaner, Yes, troubling loaners. You're
Speaker 1: one of the troubling loaners, worrying, worrying solo boys, pidons.
Speaker 1: But so we also like people and social interaction stuff.
Speaker 1: You were kind of forced into this situation of actually
Speaker 1: genuinely being alone for at least like two months, where
Speaker 1: you were in a country you didn't know, you didn't
Speaker 1: know anyone, and there was a lockdown and you're in
Speaker 1: an airbnb. How was that? And did you think I
Speaker 1: don't like being a laner as much as I thought
Speaker 1: I did or was it a dream? I struggled massively, brett, mentally, physically,
Speaker 1: in every way. But yeah, it's the two things I
Speaker 1: think that made it harder. Was Number one, I hadn't
Speaker 1: thought about being on a different time zone, so by
Speaker 1: about two pm in the afternoon, everyone I knew was asleep.
Speaker 1: So it was a new loneliness kind of thing because
Speaker 1: there's not anyone to message, or even there's not anyone
Speaker 1: you really know post on social media or anything. It's
Speaker 1: all it's all happened. But the other thing was you
Speaker 1: also know, because I think it's one of the things
Speaker 1: that we connected on is we're both workaholics in many
Speaker 1: ways and we like creating, and our creative worlds were
Speaker 1: on hold as well. So I found it really hard
Speaker 1: to get motivated to work on scripts, to work on
Speaker 1: anything else because it felt like, well, weirdly, it's always
Speaker 1: the case that it's not going to happen for many
Speaker 1: years with most scripts or anything you work on. But
Speaker 1: knowing that literally no meetings, no one was going to
Speaker 1: pat you on the back and say that's good, that's good,
Speaker 1: this might happen someday, just made me really struggle to
Speaker 1: get motivated creatively. So yeah, it was a weird one.
Speaker 1: The first that two week or I think it was
Speaker 1: a ten day quarantine in Canada. That was a struggle.
Speaker 1: But part of that was I wasn't allowed to leave
Speaker 1: my Airbnb and jet lag. You know, jet lag makes
Speaker 1: you more emotional. It's like as planes make you more emotional.
Speaker 1: Jet lag also makes you a bit of a broken character.
Speaker 1: So yeah, the first four or five days I was
Speaker 1: I was furious about my airbnb, which is I ended
Speaker 1: up living in really happily for seven months. But I
Speaker 1: was looking up other options. I was looking up the
Speaker 1: legality of canceling it. I was looking at where else
Speaker 1: I could stay. I was looking up all sorts of stuff.
Speaker 1: And then I kind of calmed down and oh, it's fine,
Speaker 1: it's just I'm just a bit sleepy. Yeah, but yeah,
Speaker 1: it did get a lot better out there, and there
Speaker 1: was like the work was amazing, Like, yeah, you know
Speaker 1: as well that sets can be really hit and miss.
Speaker 1: The tone on a set. The vibe on a set
Speaker 1: can really influence how that whole job goes. But the
Speaker 1: two leads on this were amazing, the show runner was amazing,
Speaker 1: and everyone involved. I always forget the terms. Is it
Speaker 1: the third ad who runs kind of the base area? Third?
Speaker 1: Our third was just the most positive person in the
Speaker 1: world ever. So it just genuinely always felt like a ah,
Speaker 1: here I am. In fact, I've got a story about
Speaker 1: that that I'll tell you on the first question. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I think things like that really made it a joy
Speaker 1: to be on set. But then, as you also know,
Speaker 1: you get scripts an episode at a time, and you'll
Speaker 1: be scanning to see how much you're in it if
Speaker 1: you're in it, and every now and then I'd at
Speaker 1: one point where I hadn't been in Oh, I knew
Speaker 1: I wasn't in for three weeks, And then I got
Speaker 1: the next script through and I wasn't in it, so
Speaker 1: I knew that that was another two weeks or three weeks.
Speaker 1: In those periods of time, what were you doing, Like,
Speaker 1: what were you doing in the three weeks when you
Speaker 1: weren't filming and you were in watching a lot of stuff?
Speaker 1: And again that's a massive thing for me It made
Speaker 1: me love and appreciate this whole industry more because finding
Speaker 1: good TV shows really helped I go for a lot
Speaker 1: of long walks. I've got some kettlebells and stuff, so
Speaker 1: I was doing a lot of home workouts, and I
Speaker 1: got weirdly into schedules, Like there were points where I'm
Speaker 1: waiting to be on set and then i get my
Speaker 1: filming date through and I'm working on a Wednesday, and
Speaker 1: I'm like, I've got my plans on a Wednesday. Wednesdays
Speaker 1: when I do my big workout and I get a
Speaker 1: takeaway and the rest of the week the west of
Speaker 1: the midweek, I'm very healthy, but I do a big
Speaker 1: workout and against a takeaway on a Wednesday. So I'd
Speaker 1: get all grumpy that I've been waiting to be on set.
Speaker 1: It's like any other day and I would have been happy,
Speaker 1: but that's the main day that I haven't planned out.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I got weirdly regimented. Yeah, those runes were
Speaker 1: the hardest after that two month wait where I watched
Speaker 1: all of the Sopranos and just all sorts of stuff
Speaker 1: like that. Oh, I let my guard down. I was
Speaker 1: prepared for a wait at the beginning I'd prepared a
Speaker 1: lot of TV shows I was going to watch, but
Speaker 1: when we got up and rolling, I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: we're up and rolling now. So when I had Yeah,
Speaker 1: there was a six or seven week period in the
Speaker 1: middle that I had no time on it. And it's
Speaker 1: because the episode I was in, they happened to shoot
Speaker 1: my scene on the first day of that episode, and
Speaker 1: then I wasn't in the next one and a half.
Speaker 1: I was the in the third, but I was the
Speaker 1: last scene, so it just timing just left this huge
Speaker 1: gap and that was again, yeah, tough, because you can't
Speaker 1: so we were we were the only show in that
Speaker 1: period in Vancouver. I think that didn't get shut down
Speaker 1: for COVID because everyone was being such a team player
Speaker 1: and not taking any risks, not doing any socializing. But yeah,
Speaker 1: that made it tough at points. What fucking date, man,
Speaker 1: Now you're back, You're back in England and I assume
Speaker 1: seeing friends and people and stad was it like overwhelmed?
Speaker 1: We like, oh fuck, this is too much or is
Speaker 1: it like well? That was another thing that got me
Speaker 1: through was that to keep reminding myself that I'm not
Speaker 1: away from normal life like if I've been in the
Speaker 1: UK I wouldn't have been seeing people, and that was
Speaker 1: a really hard thing to get in my head. In
Speaker 1: my head, I'm missing all my friends and all my family.
Speaker 1: It's like, no that I wouldn't have seen them anyway.
Speaker 1: And since I've been back, I've not seen any of
Speaker 1: my pals, but I've seen I've seen my mom and
Speaker 1: dad and brother and my partner all outside or you
Speaker 1: know whoever's in my bubble inside. But yeah, I've not
Speaker 1: been going crazy on it because being on a production
Speaker 1: trained me well, if you know what I mean. I
Speaker 1: was like, I don't mind wearing a mask, I don't
Speaker 1: mind not going out and and taken precultures. It's made
Speaker 1: a big difference. Again, it's all psychological, man, But knowing
Speaker 1: that I'm near in that period, my dad had to
Speaker 1: have some surgery and all sorts of things like that,
Speaker 1: which not being near, It's not like I would have
Speaker 1: been around there. It's not like I could have done anything.
Speaker 1: But not being near really put me in a weird place,
Speaker 1: and all friends and family in a pandemic. It's like,
Speaker 1: I'm not going to see them, But if something happened
Speaker 1: and I had to, I couldn't. It wasn't an option
Speaker 1: because again, particularly with the quarantines, so if I had
Speaker 1: to pop home for anything, I would have had to
Speaker 1: quarantine for fourteen days here and then ten days when
Speaker 1: I get back. So it literally wasn't an option. Christmas
Speaker 1: and New Year weren't an option because we didn't have
Speaker 1: enough of a gap to fly home quarantine for two weeks,
Speaker 1: have Christmas Day, and then fly back quarantine for ten days.
Speaker 1: What did you do on Christmas Day? Not a lot? Mate. Again,
Speaker 1: everyone was asleep, but two no earlier on Christmas because
Speaker 1: people fall asleep early, so about midday, everyone I knew
Speaker 1: was asleep. But yeah, I got a takeaway. I watched
Speaker 1: some films at a lovely time. I did do a
Speaker 1: lot of walks around a creek near me because I
Speaker 1: think it improved a lot of other people's Christmas to
Speaker 1: hear someone with my accent say Merry Christmas, Merry Christmas,
Speaker 1: young man. It made everyone feel a little bit more
Speaker 1: Dickensian in Canada. So yeah, I did a bit of
Speaker 1: walk in. I did a bit of hanging out on
Speaker 1: Christmas Eve. Actually, one of the producers and a few
Speaker 1: of the people in our cast bubble all have some
Speaker 1: food around there's and man again, as you know, I'm
Speaker 1: not that socially guy. Man, I appreciated being invited to that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I still left early. It's me but I had a
Speaker 1: lovely time minutes of that, but yeah, had a lovely time.
Speaker 1: I socialized and then I walked home with some headphones
Speaker 1: on and feeling all Christmas and yeah it was good.
Speaker 1: That's I mean, man, you really that's a that's heavy.
Speaker 1: That's really quite her core. It's been a weak respect
Speaker 1: to you surviving that. Listen. Debris is not here in
Speaker 1: England yet, but I did see the first twenty minutes
Speaker 1: when they do the teas fucking brilliant and you're the opener,
Speaker 1: you're the code opening. It looked great. I'm opening it
Speaker 1: all up. My question is if you haven't answer to this,
Speaker 1: having now done, I assume that's the biggest production you've done.
Speaker 1: That's a huge role wise, definitely like or my involvement.
Speaker 1: Is there anything you've learned knew that you could tell
Speaker 1: us in a succinct sound way bigger questions I've continued
Speaker 1: to learn. I love it like it's still amazing on
Speaker 1: all levels. I've learned there's constant compromise artistically, personally, all sorts,
Speaker 1: but that's part of the game and it's motivated me
Speaker 1: all the more to turn number one do more. It
Speaker 1: was a really weird one because, as you will also know,
Speaker 1: we didn't get a series too. There's still a chance
Speaker 1: of it being shocked about. But it was such a
Speaker 1: weird one to be tied because I was signed on
Speaker 1: for five seasons and it's such a weird thing in
Speaker 1: anything artistic doing it and knowing I absolutely adore it,
Speaker 1: but my mind works in the what am I missing
Speaker 1: out on? And I had a few things that I
Speaker 1: missed out on because I was doing it, which again
Speaker 1: it's for fine. I was doing something I adored. It
Speaker 1: also made me think you've got to be really careful
Speaker 1: on what you're signed onto, because if I didn't adore it,
Speaker 1: then that would have been heartbreaking. Because the things I
Speaker 1: missed out on were really good shows, shows I've wanted
Speaker 1: to be part of for years, but I was more
Speaker 1: than happy to pass. And one of them, I think
Speaker 1: I mentioned it online was Peaky Blinders. I got offered
Speaker 1: a part in Peaky Blinders, a small part, and you
Speaker 1: know that's very much my kind of show. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: I was like, well, I mean, it's a shame, but
Speaker 1: I was amazed at how unfazed I was because I'm
Speaker 1: working on a show that I'm having input in, I'm
Speaker 1: going back and forth with the show runners. It's a
Speaker 1: character I'm developing and working on. It was a dream.
Speaker 1: But yeah, it made me even more adamant to be
Speaker 1: cautious and selective on what I do rather than go Actors,
Speaker 1: similar to comedians, seem constantly scared that someone else is
Speaker 1: going to take their position in the industry. But if
Speaker 1: I turned down this role, then that's me over someone
Speaker 1: else will get it. Like I've talked to a lot
Speaker 1: of comedians about it over the fringe, about the Fringe
Speaker 1: this year, so many people so pleased to take a
Speaker 1: year off from the fringe without the fear that someone
Speaker 1: else is there taking their position and getting their opportunities.
Speaker 1: And yeah, I think also partly because I'm new to it,
Speaker 1: there's an overthing of oh, someone's offering me a role me, Oh,
Speaker 1: how beautiful, how kind of you? But you, yeah, you
Speaker 1: do need to be selective on these things and careful.
Speaker 1: So yeah, it's made me even more I've always been
Speaker 1: on that route, but it's made me even more on that.
Speaker 1: It's it's firmed up that belief that you need to
Speaker 1: select carefully and work with fucking awesome people. Fuck yeah,
Speaker 1: scrubious pimp. You have been brought back to life. Welcome
Speaker 1: to the planet again. But what point in your life
Speaker 1: have you come back to? What will you change? What
Speaker 1: will stay the same? Hello? Welcome back, Thanks mate, Hello,
Speaker 1: don't have to answer those questions or yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: Well you've been brought back to your life from your death.
Speaker 1: Where would you like to be brought back to him? Now?
Speaker 1: I'll come back to just at the start of the
Speaker 1: hellish quarantine in Canada. No, no, I won't be horrendous. No, yeah,
Speaker 1: I come back. I come back to now. I really would.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't want to have missed any of your wonderful
Speaker 1: previous episodes, Brett so but also I don't want to
Speaker 1: go through any of them again. Yeah, I'd come back
Speaker 1: to now. I think there is an air of if
Speaker 1: you can find it, there's an air of positivity. I
Speaker 1: think everyone has been taken down a Notcho two because
Speaker 1: of the pandemic that we've just been through. Not saying
Speaker 1: I think a pan the damn it was what we
Speaker 1: needed but you know, everyone's been taken down a notch
Speaker 1: or two. Everyone's been reminded of the immortality. And I've
Speaker 1: just been reminded of my immortality as I've come back
Speaker 1: from the dead, so I've got the advantage. Well, welcome back.
Speaker 1: You've been resurrected, and on Earth things have changed a
Speaker 1: bit since you died. People are sort of more obsessed
Speaker 1: with films than they used to be, and which is
Speaker 1: weird because obviously TV is quite big at the moment.
Speaker 1: But yeah, no, people still obsessed with films and they
Speaker 1: want to talk about you through films. And the first
Speaker 1: question is what is the last film that you saw?
Speaker 1: Sreous pit. The last film I saw was Holy Motors. Ah,
Speaker 1: that film. I haven't seen that film. I'm on a
Speaker 1: bit of David Levant obsession at the moment, and I
Speaker 1: enjoyed Holy Motors. But I've seen three of his films
Speaker 1: so far, and it's my third favorite. Okay, but it's
Speaker 1: really good. I think he's just mind blowing. I haven't
Speaker 1: seen his other films. Are they all mad? He's the
Speaker 1: lead actor in it. Another film he was in called
Speaker 1: bold a Travail, which is Clared Denny. Is it Clared
Speaker 1: Denny or Clared Dennis. I don't know, but I think
Speaker 1: she's amazing and he's amazing in that. But the other
Speaker 1: film I saw of his was by the director of
Speaker 1: Holy Motors, and it was called Lovers on the Bridge, Okay,
Speaker 1: and it's one of the best things I've ever seen.
Speaker 1: His performance in that is mind blowing. And this is
Speaker 1: the story I was going to tell you about the
Speaker 1: third ad because I'd heard about this. I'd heard about
Speaker 1: this film Lovers on the Bridge from who was it?
Speaker 1: I heard talking about it. I heard someone talking about
Speaker 1: it on another podcast. There's a podcast that's about that
Speaker 1: people go and talk in theaters. I can't remember the
Speaker 1: name of the podcast, but it was it was Jesse
Speaker 1: Buckley who was talking about it and she recommended it.
Speaker 1: I love we worked together on Taboo. She's amazing. We yeah,
Speaker 1: I think it's been so good watching her just do
Speaker 1: better and better. And she mentioned this film and I
Speaker 1: struggled to find it, but then I found it on
Speaker 1: Blu Ray while as Canada ordered it popped it into
Speaker 1: my PS three which I've taken with me, and it's
Speaker 1: the wrong region, so I was like, oh man, I
Speaker 1: can't watch it. And then I had this break for
Speaker 1: I was like, you know this, all film trailers completely unneeded,
Speaker 1: have a little TV and a DVD player. I've never
Speaker 1: used them. Why are you going to be watching a
Speaker 1: film in costume on set? I was like, I'm taking
Speaker 1: this to set. And so I said to Michelle Fish,
Speaker 1: who was a third it was amazing, I said, I
Speaker 1: said to her. After one day, I was like, look,
Speaker 1: at some point we're going to be here for filming.
Speaker 1: You're going to wrap me and I'm not going to
Speaker 1: want my car home for two hours because I'm going
Speaker 1: to sit in my trailer and watch a film. I
Speaker 1: explain the whole story. She was like, this is the best, right,
Speaker 1: We've got a mission. This is amazing. So I turned
Speaker 1: up for set one day and I get out of
Speaker 1: the car and she goes, Pip, have you got the
Speaker 1: Blu ray? And I was like, what's happened? And She's like,
Speaker 1: we're running behind quite a bit and I think today
Speaker 1: could be the day. So I was all right, I'm
Speaker 1: still not sure. I'm not sure if I want to
Speaker 1: watch it pre filming. This feels madness. After filming, maybe
Speaker 1: pre it feels dangerous, partly because of professionalism, partly because
Speaker 1: you and me. No, if you can't stop a film, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm not being interrupted, that's hell. So I did. I
Speaker 1: was like, look, let's let's not hedge bet. So I
Speaker 1: do hear and makeup. I did hear and makeup. I
Speaker 1: got in costume and at that point, and my character
Speaker 1: is in prison, so my costume is essentially pajamas. So
Speaker 1: it's perfect for watching a film. So I get my lunch,
Speaker 1: eat my lunch, I get a little cake, go to Michelle.
Speaker 1: I was like, how are we looking. She's like, look,
Speaker 1: we're still two scenes away. I was like, but they're
Speaker 1: short scenes, right. She's like yeah, but they're in different locations.
Speaker 1: So there's going to be receptions like I think you
Speaker 1: watched the film and I was nervous, and I did.
Speaker 1: I popped it on. I'm in the trayalists, so I'm
Speaker 1: feeling like a film style, you know, all of this
Speaker 1: is still new to me, and I feel completely out
Speaker 1: of place constantly, and I was like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: come on set. So I put it on and I
Speaker 1: crank up the volley. I've got a little sound bars,
Speaker 1: so it's given me this nice, this good sound, and
Speaker 1: it like literally as I put the blue ray and
Speaker 1: it starts to rain outside, to rain on the outside
Speaker 1: of my little caravan. It's so perfect. And I watched
Speaker 1: it got all the way through, literally all the way through,
Speaker 1: no one knocking and no one interrupting, and it is
Speaker 1: a beautiful film. It's just his performance. He plays a
Speaker 1: homeless guy in it. They both play homeless people in it,
Speaker 1: and it's just amazing. I assumed that that's somehow found
Speaker 1: this amazing homeless person, and then I found out he's
Speaker 1: one of the classic French actors of this era. We've
Speaker 1: finished it. I digested it for five minutes. I started
Speaker 1: going over my lines to get back into the scene.
Speaker 1: I had a knock on the door to say fifteen
Speaker 1: minute warning. It was perfect, and I told people. I
Speaker 1: caught up with friends and family the next day and
Speaker 1: I said I had the best day on set I've
Speaker 1: ever had. And then I told the story and they're
Speaker 1: but none of this is to do with acting or
Speaker 1: the show or the scene. You know, but no, but
Speaker 1: you'll know how hard it is to time, because the
Speaker 1: worst thing is if you've got a two three hour
Speaker 1: weight and you're just sitting there on the edge of
Speaker 1: your seat, the whole time. So not only did the
Speaker 1: film fall perfectly, it filled that gap. I would have
Speaker 1: had two hours of going I'm ready, I'm ready. I
Speaker 1: don't want to get two relaxed and I want to
Speaker 1: get two out of character or whatever. It was perfect.
Speaker 1: That's wonderful. But yeah, I mean I totally get that,
Speaker 1: you absolutely nailed it. But Holy Motors is amazing as well.
Speaker 1: It's good. Did it really good? And it's really good.
Speaker 1: It's an illustration of him as an actor. It's basically
Speaker 1: the dream role for any actor, because it's like you're
Speaker 1: going to play ten different characters that they're going to
Speaker 1: get to see you transform. They're going to get to
Speaker 1: see what an absolute master you are, and it's this
Speaker 1: weird You're this weird dude. And yeah, I loved it.
Speaker 1: And every time you think you get a handle on it,
Speaker 1: we're going to change the role. Every Yeah, yeah, very good. Yeah,
Speaker 1: scribbiest Pip, Who do you think should play you in
Speaker 1: the film of your life? Well? A bit of an
Speaker 1: obvious answer here, Brett, but I think it should be
Speaker 1: me because to cast someone who hasn't got a stutter
Speaker 1: to play a character with a stutter would be disgraceful.
Speaker 1: And I'm the only actor out there that's really got
Speaker 1: I've not met any others. Just basically, if people start
Speaker 1: to write more roles with Stutters, I would have to
Speaker 1: get every gig because it would be a crime. You're
Speaker 1: the only representation. You're the only one out there. There
Speaker 1: can't be many. I can't be the only one out there,
Speaker 1: but there's not a lot. So if I played you,
Speaker 1: it would be really offensive. It's so offensive even you
Speaker 1: saying that out loud, you could get canceled. But but
Speaker 1: even if I'm like, but I know him really well.
Speaker 1: I've spent Lotovia, it's not you know, I'm not like
Speaker 1: you know, And I wouldn't play it for laughs or
Speaker 1: anything to really respect. I know damn well that if
Speaker 1: that room was private, you would have said, but I
Speaker 1: know him really well to try and get a gig.
Speaker 1: But that aside, and this is going to sound like
Speaker 1: an arrogant one now, but genuinely, before he became a
Speaker 1: national heartthrob, the one time I've been mistaken for someone else,
Speaker 1: it was hugely embarrassing because I was doing the Camden
Speaker 1: Crawel and it was the first time that me and
Speaker 1: Danasaka started to feel, oh man, are we are we famous?
Speaker 1: Like we'd had a queue outside our gig around the corner.
Speaker 1: And I went to another gig and this woman came
Speaker 1: to two people who have been at a gig's gig,
Speaker 1: asked for a photo. I had a photo and this
Speaker 1: this middle aged woman saw and she came over and said,
Speaker 1: I know who you are. And I was like, all right, cool,
Speaker 1: and she's like, I'm not going to interrupt you that,
Speaker 1: but you know, I'm going to leave you to your day,
Speaker 1: but I know who you are? Is all right cool?
Speaker 1: She's like Ryan Goslin and I was like, oh no, no, sorry.
Speaker 1: I was being all all timid and humble because I
Speaker 1: thought she knows who I am. I'm Screwby Witch. You're
Speaker 1: Ryan Goslin And I'm like, oh no, no, no, no no
Speaker 1: I'm not. And this was like half Nelson hera, so
Speaker 1: it's before it was a heart, probably was a bit scruffy,
Speaker 1: and I was like, no I'm not. She's like, it's okay,
Speaker 1: I know it's you. I just want you to know
Speaker 1: I think you're really talented. I was like no, no, honestly, no,
Speaker 1: you made a mistake that I'm not going to interrupt you.
Speaker 1: I know it's you, just literally it was the yt awkward,
Speaker 1: an embarrassing thing because I thought, oh, I've been recognized,
Speaker 1: but I Hadn't you do look a bit like him?
Speaker 1: I reckon, he's talented enough to get back back down
Speaker 1: to my level of attractiveness. I think he's talented enough
Speaker 1: that we would forgive him playing a stattering part exactly exactly.
Speaker 1: So yeah, i'd go fair. That's a good choice for
Speaker 1: Ryan Goslin. Speaking of Ryan Goslin, Screwbysit. What's the most
Speaker 1: romantic film you've ever seen? Now, I've got a list
Speaker 1: of films here, and I've got a bit of a rant.
Speaker 1: So the one that came to mind first was one
Speaker 1: twenty BPM And I talked about this on your sister
Speaker 1: podcast Cuddle Club, because I talked about this for Best
Speaker 1: Hug on Screen Huge, And I asked, is a hand
Speaker 1: job a cuddle? No, it's a very located, it's a
Speaker 1: very specific, but there's a hand job scene in this
Speaker 1: that is one of the most beautiful and romantic moments everyone.
Speaker 1: It's in a hospital. But then I was thinking of
Speaker 1: other most romantic What did Lily? What did Lily say,
Speaker 1: did she say hand job? She said it wasn't until
Speaker 1: I pushed her on it, and again this sounds very
Speaker 1: me too, but I argued my point and she said
Speaker 1: a clear no, and I said, look, just hear me
Speaker 1: out that a man's blinder, it is, and she said,
Speaker 1: now you're right. Okay, Yeah. But the other films I
Speaker 1: had were Portrait of a Lady on Fire, Ammonite's, God's
Speaker 1: Own Country, Beach Rats, and they're all gay cinema, and
Speaker 1: I had this realization that in heteronormative romantic films, the
Speaker 1: goal is always to fall in love, and in most
Speaker 1: queer cinema, the goal is to fuck, and that's about it.
Speaker 1: And then the falling in love then means all the
Speaker 1: more and is all the more powerful. And even you know,
Speaker 1: I'd argue against that in Portrait of a Lady of Fire,
Speaker 1: of a Lady on Fire maybe, and Ammonite, because the
Speaker 1: goal isn't to get laid, but it certainly isn't to
Speaker 1: fall in love. None of the characters that are there
Speaker 1: looking for love, and in hetero love stories it's nearly
Speaker 1: always at least one of them is searching for it,
Speaker 1: or it's implied at least and it feels like gay
Speaker 1: cinema gets to miss that cliche more often than not.
Speaker 1: That makes it all the more powerful that when they
Speaker 1: do find love, it's all the more beautiful because it
Speaker 1: wasn't either of the character's end goal. It's almost particularly
Speaker 1: in Ammonite's, there's a huge reluctance. It's completely against what
Speaker 1: either of the characters want are looking for, and man,
Speaker 1: that makes it more powerful. So what's your answer? Amn't it? No,
Speaker 1: I'm going to stick with One twenty BPM. But it was, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it just it surprised me that all the films I
Speaker 1: was going through were all all gays in the ons.
Speaker 1: Really interesting. Yeah, um and yeah, I realized that that
Speaker 1: was the theme. That's very interesting. I think about One
Speaker 1: twenty BPM a lot. That film has really really stayed
Speaker 1: with me. I think that beautiful, isn't it. It's come better,
Speaker 1: It's come to the four again after the amazing what
Speaker 1: was the TV series? It's it's a scene of course
Speaker 1: it was, and that did a beautiful job of telling
Speaker 1: the UK story that One twenty BPM tells the French
Speaker 1: story of the same era, the same period. The acting
Speaker 1: in one twenty ppm as well that's one of them
Speaker 1: films where it's like this must be an I don't
Speaker 1: understand how any of these people are acting. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: so natural, amazing. I love that. Um, what is the
Speaker 1: best film you ever saw that you never want to
Speaker 1: see again? And a good, good, good thing about this
Speaker 1: And the answer is Honeyboy, all right, good one, And
Speaker 1: the reason I never want to see it again is
Speaker 1: Shia la Bouf's. It's also it's more than that because
Speaker 1: this I think it's a wonderful, wonderful film. I really
Speaker 1: enjoyed it. But it also excuses Shai la Bouf's actions
Speaker 1: a bit because it is kind of his story of
Speaker 1: his childhood, which was very rough and very horrible. You
Speaker 1: then add that Fka Twigs is in it, who is
Speaker 1: Her performance is astounding. I think she's a wonderful artist
Speaker 1: and to hear what he put her through is heartbreaking.
Speaker 1: So it's a really In general, I struggle with films
Speaker 1: of people who have been outed as abusers, but this
Speaker 1: one jumped out because it's almost his. Yeah, but if
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, and again it's true as well.
Speaker 1: I do think there is that thing of most people
Speaker 1: when does the victim become the the the abuser. He
Speaker 1: was abused in many different ways in his childhood, so
Speaker 1: he's the one that we're sympathetic too, and then when
Speaker 1: he starts to repeat some of these actions, he's rightfully
Speaker 1: the one that we're we're hating on. And I think
Speaker 1: it's really complex, and I do think fuck Shila Booth,
Speaker 1: but then I also think fuck Shyla Booth with help
Speaker 1: and therapy and assistance and fuck him. Well, you know,
Speaker 1: I think I think he needs it's it's it's a
Speaker 1: tough one, man. I think all of these things are
Speaker 1: tough ones. I think cancel culture is hugely exaggerated. But
Speaker 1: also I think there's something there, and we're too quick
Speaker 1: to make the solution to everything that person's career is over,
Speaker 1: rather than that person deserves to suffer the consequences. But
Speaker 1: I also leaving rehabilitation rather than punishment in most situations,
Speaker 1: and I think that's what our prison system is meant
Speaker 1: to be. It's meant to be rehabilitation. It's not meant
Speaker 1: to be punishment. It's meant to be it doesn't work
Speaker 1: because of the way they're run. But yeah, that's yeah,
Speaker 1: that's why I struggle. I really enjoyed Honeyboy, and I
Speaker 1: got to enjoy it for a very short amount of
Speaker 1: time before everything came out. There's like, nah, massively fucked
Speaker 1: this guy before you wanted to fuck him. Well, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's very interesting. But to fuck him with love and
Speaker 1: we've understanding and with some kind of I don't know,
Speaker 1: as said, he's someone who's been through some shit. And
Speaker 1: that's what irks me about that film is it makes
Speaker 1: me more sympathetic to someone who I would normally be
Speaker 1: let's just get rid of this absolute dickhead. Very interesting,
Speaker 1: screvious pit. Tell me this day, what's the best action
Speaker 1: film you've ever seen? Now? This feels a lot less
Speaker 1: interesting because it feels really obvious. But it's conn Air,
Speaker 1: isn't it. Isn't it? I could think about it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I couldn't think about anything. I enjoyed more. I went
Speaker 1: towards things like On Back, which were kind of a
Speaker 1: bit of a crossover of a martial arts and action.
Speaker 1: The Raid and Dread were both in there, but I
Speaker 1: think all of the others have some kind of tinge
Speaker 1: of credibility to get them away from simply being an
Speaker 1: action film. Do you know what I mean? It's like,
Speaker 1: it's not it's not just an action film as the
Speaker 1: action films. Really it's an action film. It's very much
Speaker 1: an action film. You don't have to justify it. It
Speaker 1: doesn't try to justify it. It's got Cusack, it's got Cage,
Speaker 1: it's got I mean, it's got questionable characters and lines,
Speaker 1: I guess, but yeah, it's a lot of fun. You
Speaker 1: could have corn air. I'm not taken that away from you.
Speaker 1: What screams Pip. Of all the films that exist, if
Speaker 1: you had to, which fl film do you think you
Speaker 1: could have made? And why it's when the question is no,
Speaker 1: one's a turly feel what it means, including me, But
Speaker 1: I think you get it. Oh, oh, you've got some
Speaker 1: questions on the patron exclusive that I've got a lot
Speaker 1: to discuss with you on because I'm not happy with
Speaker 1: several of them. But we'll get to that exclusively over
Speaker 1: on Patreon. Great, great, great, a little advert there, Brett
Speaker 1: mid I thought about this. The obvious answer is a
Speaker 1: clerks or something, because they're they're famously the point of
Speaker 1: them clerks is punk bands. Like half of the point
Speaker 1: is to make you think I could do that, And
Speaker 1: that's half of the thing that's exciting about them, but
Speaker 1: the one I've gone for because it is the film
Speaker 1: that not so much made me think I could do that,
Speaker 1: but made me think I want to do that. And man,
Speaker 1: I'm bringing in a gambit of troubling people. But it's
Speaker 1: a Buffalo sixty six, right, Yeah, I could see you
Speaker 1: making Buffalo sixty six. Actually, it's got just the right
Speaker 1: level of pretension for me, but it feels achievable and
Speaker 1: I'm standable enough. It's got just the right amount of
Speaker 1: references to kind of French and European cinema, but probably
Speaker 1: haven't actually watched as much as I want people to
Speaker 1: think it's got everything there. But yeah, Buffalo sixty six
Speaker 1: for a long time was my favorite film, and I
Speaker 1: think it was the first kind of indie film I
Speaker 1: saw properly that made or indie slash art. It's a
Speaker 1: bit of an art house film. Yeah, it was one
Speaker 1: of the first ones. And then that made me go, old, man,
Speaker 1: this is a thing, and it was. It was. It
Speaker 1: was a proper or to It was written, directed, starring
Speaker 1: music by you know, it's real. Yeah, who's the dad
Speaker 1: Ben Gazzara? Is that the dad in it? I think so,
Speaker 1: I think so. Yeah, And what's his name? Just popping
Speaker 1: in them Mickey Rourke with a little cameo. Yeah. What
Speaker 1: I love about Vincent Gallo is when he made I
Speaker 1: believe it was the brand Bunny, which was sort of
Speaker 1: universally nutlike, but it may have also been to do
Speaker 1: with Buffalo sixty six. We're pulling it now. He drove
Speaker 1: across country America to beat up all the critics he'd
Speaker 1: given him a bad review. Yeah, yeah, I really respect that. Which,
Speaker 1: speaking of Kevin Smith, that then got written into Jay
Speaker 1: and Silent Bob strikes Back or whatever. That was the
Speaker 1: big ending, wasn't it. I'm no fan of violence, and
Speaker 1: I don't think it's ever justified, except when it's Vincent
Speaker 1: Galley driving about his film I Love It. For a
Speaker 1: long time had a note of the name of one
Speaker 1: critic of one of my albums because I was I
Speaker 1: swore that if I ever met him in real life,
Speaker 1: I was going to punch him in the face. And
Speaker 1: the reason being was I think people have started to
Speaker 1: forget that there's consequences in the real world to what
Speaker 1: goes on online, and I think we see it a
Speaker 1: lot on Twitter, a lot on these kind of things,
Speaker 1: and this particular article had written a bad review of
Speaker 1: one of my records, but had theorized that I'm racist,
Speaker 1: and that really annoyed and offended me. And I'm not
Speaker 1: going to drop some of my best mates are black,
Speaker 1: but I've got black family who are younger than me
Speaker 1: who it was a real moment in my life, just
Speaker 1: a heartbreak. I thought, the idea of them being racially abused,
Speaker 1: it would make me so angry. Like my niece who
Speaker 1: I used to babysit since she was like that big.
Speaker 1: The thought of that adorable child being abused because of
Speaker 1: a skin color would infuriate me. So his theory of
Speaker 1: it came from I'd been asking an interview who some
Speaker 1: of my favorite rappers were, and I think, off the
Speaker 1: top of my head, i'd said some white rappers, and again,
Speaker 1: I like a lot of different rappers, and I would
Speaker 1: in reality, I would now make sure I didn't just
Speaker 1: give a list of white rappers, because I think that
Speaker 1: is damaging and it is an art that has come
Speaker 1: from the black communion. It's important to pay correct homage
Speaker 1: in that way. So I get the point there, But
Speaker 1: to write in an article that I'm likely racist or
Speaker 1: have racist tendencies just infuriated me. Yeah, that's pretty bad. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's it's beyond I mean, my first album or second
Speaker 1: album got a note point two out of ten in Pitchfork,
Speaker 1: and I didn't make note of the journalists there. I've
Speaker 1: not threatened to beat anyone up. So it's not a
Speaker 1: bad reviews thing. It's a that's offensive to say thing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, I'd say that's totally legit. What is the
Speaker 1: film you have pretended to like to impress people? By
Speaker 1: impressed people, do you mean get through a podcast with
Speaker 1: the star of said film. Let's say yes, because because
Speaker 1: I think I'm good at lying to myself. Because when
Speaker 1: I had Michael Fassbender on, I genuinely enjoyed The Snowman,
Speaker 1: and when I think back, I don't think it was great.
Speaker 1: And when I had Kevin Smith on, I genuinely enjoyed
Speaker 1: Jay and signent Abob the Reboot, and when I think
Speaker 1: back now, I don't know if it holds up. I
Speaker 1: think I enjoyed it because of nostalgia that we previously
Speaker 1: may there. And Yeah, I think I'm good at lying
Speaker 1: to myself because genuinely, I've had ones where someone has
Speaker 1: got work I'm not a fan of and I've just
Speaker 1: dodged past it or I've turned down the interview. But
Speaker 1: those two I genuinely raved about the films, and I've
Speaker 1: had people furious with me going up, what do you mean?
Speaker 1: So I remember texting you about the snow Man. Yeah,
Speaker 1: is it okay? But on the podcast I said, and
Speaker 1: I stand by I think what I liked was it
Speaker 1: felt like a BBC crime thing, and I think that
Speaker 1: was actually the fact it was. It seemed a bit
Speaker 1: amateurish in places, it didn't feel as filmic and cinematic. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I enjoyed it at the time, And again I would
Speaker 1: have in private, I would have fought my own corner.
Speaker 1: I'm sure I did them. I'm sure I didn't just
Speaker 1: say no. It was just for the interview. But yeah,
Speaker 1: the more I think back or see clips from stuff
Speaker 1: that I was like, Oh I rated that, I think, Oh,
Speaker 1: am I just good at lying to myself? Am I
Speaker 1: good at going? I really want to talk to Michael Fassbender.
Speaker 1: I think he's amazing. You'd best enjoy this film. That's
Speaker 1: a good skill. I also do think that we have
Speaker 1: a really important thing that we need to hold true
Speaker 1: too is we often get to see films before the
Speaker 1: public or the critics have told us if we should
Speaker 1: like it or not. And I think on that one,
Speaker 1: I watched it and enjoyed it, and by the time
Speaker 1: I was about to do the interview, it started to
Speaker 1: get a bit of hate. And I think that made
Speaker 1: me more resolute to the No, just because you've told
Speaker 1: me it's rubbish. I watched it at the time and
Speaker 1: I thought it was amazing. So just because you're all
Speaker 1: telling me it's rubbish now I'm not having it. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I think it made me maybe more resolute on that
Speaker 1: to go. Man, it's kind of a masterpiece. Is it
Speaker 1: the greatest film ever? It might be. I mean the
Speaker 1: choice to cast an actor who couldn't put together a
Speaker 1: sentence in Val Kilmer at this point was so powerful.
Speaker 1: The choice not to film twenty five of the script
Speaker 1: was powerful. What is the film you've never seen that
Speaker 1: you think it's mad? You've never seen it? Brace yourself, Brett.
Speaker 1: It's Paddinton too, That is mad. What is the film
Speaker 1: you love that you don't expect anyone else to like?
Speaker 1: Are we moving on that quickly? Okay? Well, it seems
Speaker 1: I've seen that. Reason I do the Resurrection is for that.
Speaker 1: For that question. The film I love that I don't
Speaker 1: back to anyone else to like is Killer Joe. Go on,
Speaker 1: I've seen Killer Joe. I like that. The reason I
Speaker 1: don't expect anyone else to like it is it's the
Speaker 1: first film I raved about two people that I then
Speaker 1: got abusive messages back after I made them sit through
Speaker 1: it or That and What Way of the Gun and
Speaker 1: the first two films that I was like blown away by,
Speaker 1: and Killer Joe stands out because I recommend it to
Speaker 1: to Amy Ballman of the Mum and Muma podcast and
Speaker 1: Network for You, and her and her partner at the
Speaker 1: time watched it and messaged me going, what the fuck
Speaker 1: have you just made us sit through? And I think
Speaker 1: it made me realize that there are certain things that
Speaker 1: I've very much an acquired taste, and I think, yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't notice that enough again on my first album.
Speaker 1: I'm having flashbacks now. But on my first album I
Speaker 1: talk about death a lot, and it was only when
Speaker 1: the reviews came out that people saying it's all quite morbid,
Speaker 1: even the positive reviews where it's quite morbid, but it's
Speaker 1: important to talk about these things. I didn't realize that
Speaker 1: we don't talk about death much. I just didn't know that.
Speaker 1: And yeah, I've had that with numerous films and numerous
Speaker 1: other things. So people will think of me as this
Speaker 1: bleak or morbid or morose person, but it will just
Speaker 1: be like, oh no, I just didn't know there's certain
Speaker 1: things for certain times. I thought everything was for every time.
Speaker 1: And I guess I probably recommended Killer Joe to a
Speaker 1: couple on a Friday night and it might not be
Speaker 1: a couple's Friday night film. But I loved it. It's
Speaker 1: one of my favorite It's just yeah, yeah, yeah, Killer
Speaker 1: Joe is also it's where I first saw Love of
Speaker 1: my Life. Tina Temple yes exactly incredible in Killer Joe. Yeah, absolutely,
Speaker 1: performance and McConaughey's performance just astounding in my opinion, and
Speaker 1: then later finding out it was a play, and that's
Speaker 1: why it's kind of it didn't feel like a film.
Speaker 1: It had something, But I think they did a really
Speaker 1: good job of because I think it can be bad
Speaker 1: when you adapt a play and essentially you've just filmed
Speaker 1: a play, because film and the theater are very different
Speaker 1: art forms, from the acting to the directing too. Everything
Speaker 1: in my obviously plays a boring Yeah exactly. I think
Speaker 1: they kept the beauty of the play in there, but yeah,
Speaker 1: yeah they did. What's the film you would show a
Speaker 1: lover as a test to see if you should be together.
Speaker 1: It's uncomfortable time break because it's Super Bowl. I always
Speaker 1: get superbove in, but genuinely with my partner, and we
Speaker 1: both adored it, and I've watched it at least four
Speaker 1: or five times at that point. And this comes back
Speaker 1: to the thing of because I don't know that there's
Speaker 1: certain things that aren't for certain times. I think people
Speaker 1: often from an ounce from the outside, have an opinion
Speaker 1: of me as being quite dark, quite brooding, or whatever else.
Speaker 1: Like there was another day years ago that a girl
Speaker 1: came over and I was like, you've got to watch
Speaker 1: this film, and it was Dead Man's Shoes and I
Speaker 1: love it. But it ended and she was like, I mean,
Speaker 1: it was great, but why have we watched that. I'm
Speaker 1: so sad, like I'm saying this is miserable. When I
Speaker 1: was like, we go to bed, Yeah, I just feel great.
Speaker 1: I didn't think about it. There's anything other than a
Speaker 1: great film. So super Bob is that one, because it's
Speaker 1: so as I tell you all the time, it's so
Speaker 1: beautifully addresses love and happiness and positivity, and at no
Speaker 1: point point feels saccharin or cheesy over the top. And
Speaker 1: I think I love that ship too. Just because you
Speaker 1: might know that I'm putting on this really weird, I've
Speaker 1: written loads of songs about suicide or whatever else. I
Speaker 1: also think these things are beautiful when they're done right.
Speaker 1: So yeah, you're very nice, crewious Pits. I appreciate it,
Speaker 1: And you're right. If you show a date superb and
Speaker 1: they don't like it, you immediately should break up. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: that makes sense if that's the you know, that's sort
Speaker 1: of the message of the film I played it. I
Speaker 1: love the idea of it. As your answer to that question, Yeah,
Speaker 1: if you don't like this, you enjoying this. You enjoying this,
Speaker 1: You enjoying it. You didn't laugh at that bit was wrong.
Speaker 1: This is basically an advert for being in a relationship
Speaker 1: with me. So how you feeling about it? This is
Speaker 1: what it's like. Yeah, it's going to be this awkward. Yeah?
Speaker 1: Uh well what is thank you? Though? What is the
Speaker 1: film that made you the most uncomfortable? Now? I've kind
Speaker 1: of got a prelude to my answer here because I'm
Speaker 1: reading uncomfortable as as as unwanted uncomfortableness, because I go
Speaker 1: and see every Gasperno film in the cinema for the uncomfortableness.
Speaker 1: Like there's a lot of things I enjoy at home,
Speaker 1: but Gasperno films, and again, a lot of things I'd
Speaker 1: rather be in an empty cinema, but Gasperno films tend
Speaker 1: to be only on incursons and stuff like that, and
Speaker 1: it'll be quite full. And I adore the uncomfortableness of
Speaker 1: when the end credits are rolling and everyone asking, get
Speaker 1: up and go into this, even if it's just the
Speaker 1: light of the foyer, and be around other humans and
Speaker 1: know that you all saw that together. You will. You
Speaker 1: couldn't see each other in the dark, but now the
Speaker 1: lights are up and you can see each other's faces.
Speaker 1: And I saw a reversible in the cinema with Amy
Speaker 1: Bullman actually who I previously mentioned, and people I went
Speaker 1: to see enter the void in the cinema, and the
Speaker 1: most and the most recent climax, which is my favorite
Speaker 1: of the Gasponneau films, I just adored it because I
Speaker 1: think gasper obsesses over one thing in each film, And
Speaker 1: in Irreversible he was obsessing over violence, and Enter the
Speaker 1: Void he was obsessing over the brain, and in Climax
Speaker 1: he was obsessing over the dance, and I loved that,
Speaker 1: as in Love he's obsessing over sex, and yeah, I
Speaker 1: love that the focus of dance. All of them will
Speaker 1: have violence, the brain, and sex in all of them,
Speaker 1: but he obsesses over one, and yeah, I loved it.
Speaker 1: But again I felt that was a cheat in the question,
Speaker 1: because they're chosen discomforts. So one year, on Boxing Day,
Speaker 1: we were visiting my uncle and we decided to all
Speaker 1: go to the cinema as a family, me, my mum,
Speaker 1: my brother, my cousins who were all younger than me,
Speaker 1: me aunts, and uncle. And the only thing that we
Speaker 1: all fancied was Girl with the Dragon tattoo, which heard
Speaker 1: the book was good, heard, it's good. Heard, it's a
Speaker 1: good adaptation, And there's a pretty unpleasant rape scene in
Speaker 1: that film Bread And sitting there on Boxing Day with
Speaker 1: uncle's aunts and younger cousins and my mum and my brother,
Speaker 1: that was the most uncomfortable I think I felt in
Speaker 1: a film. Although it's just come to mind, I did
Speaker 1: also go and see Shame with a female friend that
Speaker 1: was a platonic female friend, and within moments fast Bender's
Speaker 1: big old wang is swinging about on the on the
Speaker 1: huge screen, So that was fairly uncomfortable as well. But yeah,
Speaker 1: it's got to be girl with a dragon tattoo purely
Speaker 1: for the quantity of people to feel uncomfortable near. It
Speaker 1: wasn't one person. It wasn't at least it wasn't your idea.
Speaker 1: At least it wasn't like, hey, guys, I'm taking you Yeah, yeah, one,
Speaker 1: I've got this that. Yeah, that film was not a
Speaker 1: massive success, and I find it so fascinating. So I'm like,
Speaker 1: it seems so obvious to me that it was marketed
Speaker 1: like a putting out on Boxing Day is a terrible idea.
Speaker 1: Be the tagline it was called the feel bad film
Speaker 1: of the Year. It's like, yeah, no one's going to
Speaker 1: go see that. No one's looking at that tagling. What
Speaker 1: no one except the Pips Gladdest Night and the Pips
Speaker 1: Saddest Night and the Pips. Yeah, I've never realized that
Speaker 1: you were your family and the backing vocus the Gladdest
Speaker 1: Day we are we Are. That's mad films put on
Speaker 1: Boxing Day. Yeah, really weird choice, I guess. And yeah,
Speaker 1: I think it's because of that that we didn't really
Speaker 1: anticipate quite what we were getting ourselves into. Yeah, because
Speaker 1: normally Greatest Showman is that's a Boxing Day film. You
Speaker 1: put the Greatest Showman Boxing Day. We're all going, we're
Speaker 1: having a lovely Little Women. Don't thank you, Little Women,
Speaker 1: Little Women? Thank you? A Christmas miracle than in the
Speaker 1: Heart of the Sea. Okay, yeah, yeah, okay, okay, so
Speaker 1: so so Girl with the Dragon Tattoo was the Mad
Speaker 1: World of Christmas, of Christmas entertainments? Why is Mad World
Speaker 1: Christmas number one? That's not a Christmas number one song?
Speaker 1: Come on, if you could, if you could show a
Speaker 1: child one film, what would it be? And also what
Speaker 1: are you doing in this scenario? Still deciding on this
Speaker 1: because I've got three written down here and one I
Speaker 1: just I just want to talk about with you, Okay.
Speaker 1: Another one we've talked about before, and it's got a
Speaker 1: good child performance and that was the only real reason.
Speaker 1: But I'm going to go with because it's a cartoon
Speaker 1: and kids love cartoons. Akira minds they show that. I
Speaker 1: think at some point they have to learn that the
Speaker 1: world is unpredictable and scary. And I think starting with
Speaker 1: a cool kid in a cool jacket on a cool
Speaker 1: motorbike and then going into everything that comes in Akira
Speaker 1: would be a hell of a hell of a ride.
Speaker 1: And why have you been left alone with this kid? Well?
Speaker 1: I told them I was going to put the Trolls
Speaker 1: film on you see my kid. Answer was Black Coldron.
Speaker 1: But we discussed Black Couldron in the last episode, so
Speaker 1: there was a few things on this that I thought.
Speaker 1: My answer was one thing. I was like, no, we've
Speaker 1: discussed that film before. I think, so, yes, I think
Speaker 1: I saw Akira when I was little and you know,
Speaker 1: like this, So yeah. The other one that was on
Speaker 1: my list was Mono's which is one of my favorite
Speaker 1: films of all time, and it's an almost all childcast
Speaker 1: old children. Not a bad idea, but almost all childcast.
Speaker 1: And I think a lot of kids in England need
Speaker 1: to up their game and they're messing about and just
Speaker 1: being children, and then you see a film like Monos
Speaker 1: and go, these are children and they have not only
Speaker 1: in the real world, they've made this film and in
Speaker 1: the fictional world they're essentially fighting a war against an
Speaker 1: invisible opponent, and yeah, that film would blew me away.
Speaker 1: So that was one I was like, well, that'll get
Speaker 1: kids in line. Yeah, Monus is really good, so good
Speaker 1: at it's really good. So I watched that in the
Speaker 1: cinema just on ad it recommended by an acting teacher
Speaker 1: I was working with at the time. Just getting that
Speaker 1: in that I've trained, I've trained now Brett. I didn't
Speaker 1: know what to expect, and man, it just blew me away.
Speaker 1: Just every performance in that was just absolutely astounding. And
Speaker 1: it's a film that could not be made in the West,
Speaker 1: but the risks that were taken in that film would
Speaker 1: not be taken by an American production or a British
Speaker 1: a production. And when they're going down the rapids and
Speaker 1: you can't evaked it, you'd be like, no, we're not
Speaker 1: doing that. That's crazy. And it's just really astounding. It
Speaker 1: feels like a year a wrath of God, where it's like, Wow,
Speaker 1: these people have had an experience here and it's probably
Speaker 1: not the best way to make films because they've almost died,
Speaker 1: they've changed permanently. But man, every but theoretically every actor
Speaker 1: wants to make films like that. Theoretically, yeah, probably not
Speaker 1: in the reality. I spent the first ten minutes of
Speaker 1: this moaning about being in an airbnb for seven months
Speaker 1: and being a bit bored. So living in the jungle
Speaker 1: is stuck down in mud rapid Yeah, yeah, but yeah,
Speaker 1: I love a little trick. In the Pilot of Debris,
Speaker 1: we had this bit where me and the garden we've
Speaker 1: had to disappear, and it was all done as a
Speaker 1: one shot and a little trick where we just have
Speaker 1: to jump behind the cameraman at a certain point and
Speaker 1: there's a slight and just things like that. Probably no
Speaker 1: one else gives a ship, but I adore it, Like
Speaker 1: from doing a lot of one shot music videos. The
Speaker 1: video for Stunner has got loads of little tricks. There's
Speaker 1: a bit where I switched with a double and stuff
Speaker 1: like that, and I nerd out over that stuff, but
Speaker 1: I stand by it. It does matter. People may not
Speaker 1: know subconsciously it makes a difference. You fucking react more
Speaker 1: if it's real. Then if it's a computer, you just
Speaker 1: connect to it more. Even if you don't know you are,
Speaker 1: you do. I think Monus is partly why Minus is
Speaker 1: so amazing, because it's definitely real and you're just like
Speaker 1: well scrubious. Pivot's been wonderful to resurrect you, and having
Speaker 1: listened to all your answers, I've decided for now to
Speaker 1: let you live. Thanks. But before you go, a lawyers
Speaker 1: popped over just to take your will, just in case,
Speaker 1: because you never know when I'm around what could happen.
Speaker 1: And the only thing he needs is what DVD would
Speaker 1: you leave in a will were you to die again
Speaker 1: in the future. You can leave one DVD for whoever
Speaker 1: you want. I think it's a big callback to my
Speaker 1: first appearance on here, and it's going to be Harvey,
Speaker 1: and I'd leave it to literally everyone I love because
Speaker 1: I think it's genuinely a bang on about it before,
Speaker 1: so I won't bang on too much, but I think
Speaker 1: it's one of it genuinely changed my outlook on life
Speaker 1: in many ways. In what way? How did it change
Speaker 1: without the kind of lay, just the character, his approach,
Speaker 1: the fact that the kind of end of the film
Speaker 1: is going year. He's a bit weird or he's a
Speaker 1: bit odd, but he's happy and he's positive and that's okay,
Speaker 1: and we don't have to This is going to sound
Speaker 1: really heavy now, but there was a period in my
Speaker 1: life where my parents were giving me or we're putting
Speaker 1: me in speech therapy, and they took me out of
Speaker 1: speech therapy because they didn't like the fact that all
Speaker 1: of the teachings seem to imply I was broken and
Speaker 1: needed fixing, and they believed I wasn't broken and didn't
Speaker 1: need fixing. If if I want helping can help my stammer,
Speaker 1: then great, But if not, that's just who I am
Speaker 1: and part of who I am. And I think that's
Speaker 1: a really I'd never realized that that connection, but I
Speaker 1: think that's really the story of Harvey. And there's a
Speaker 1: quote in it that I put on my first record
Speaker 1: that he says, my mum always I used to say
Speaker 1: to me, in this world lle Wood, as she'd always
Speaker 1: call me Elle Wood. In this worldale Wood, you can
Speaker 1: be also smart or al so pleasant. For years I
Speaker 1: was smart. I recommend pleasant, and I love it. It's beautiful.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I'd leave Harvey for literally everyone a copy each.
Speaker 1: I'd proper oprah Winfrey it you get a Harvey, you
Speaker 1: get a Harvey. You all get a Harvey. Yeah, Harvey,
Speaker 1: that's very lovely. Scrubs Pit, thank you very much. Now,
Speaker 1: is there anything you would like to tell people to
Speaker 1: look out for, to watch, to listen to before about
Speaker 1: your day. Not at all. Everyone should just enjoy themselves
Speaker 1: and watch more films. Or what I would tell them
Speaker 1: to watch is when you feel safe and comfortable, watch
Speaker 1: films in the cinema. Because you and me have both
Speaker 1: been banging on about this for years, but man, is
Speaker 1: it more important than ever for two reasons. I think
Speaker 1: number one, we're going to lose a lot of cinemas
Speaker 1: because of the pandemic, and number two, also partly because
Speaker 1: of the pandemic, but it was already going there. We're
Speaker 1: going to lose a lot of amazing films because you
Speaker 1: will know as well, every production company is looking for
Speaker 1: TV shows because TV is where it can reach everyone.
Speaker 1: We've got Netflix, We've got Prime, We've got Apple TV,
Speaker 1: which also I need to mention having one of the
Speaker 1: hits of the year on Apple TV makes it even
Speaker 1: more impressive with ted Lasso, because let's not be about
Speaker 1: like not everyone had Apple TV. Everyone hadn't Netflix. So
Speaker 1: Tiger King goes on their bang everyone's watching it. Not
Speaker 1: everyone had Apple TV, and Ted Lasso be is so
Speaker 1: praised and so huge a lot of the people who
Speaker 1: saw it got Apple TV to watch ted Lasso, and man,
Speaker 1: that's mind blowing in this day and age, right when
Speaker 1: people are so lazy, like you would have had stuff before,
Speaker 1: independent stuff that you're like, it's available now where you've
Speaker 1: got to buy it on iTunes, that's honestly, you can
Speaker 1: rent it on iTunes. Yeah, I'll get around to it.
Speaker 1: Like people are so lazy. It's not already on their phone,
Speaker 1: already in their streaming system. So fucking amazing, man. So yeah,
Speaker 1: a big bit of love on that. But yeah, just cinemas, man,
Speaker 1: it worries me and scares me. As I said, I
Speaker 1: adored doing Debris, But one of the things that that
Speaker 1: seven month period had me feeling was I want to
Speaker 1: make more films, man, because I love getting to develop
Speaker 1: a character and be a character and potentially have series
Speaker 1: after series. But I love films. I love the focus
Speaker 1: of films, the freedom of films. They're not being restricted
Speaker 1: to a tie a running time, to advert breaks, to
Speaker 1: all these other things, to hope fully all of the
Speaker 1: artistic decisions being made for artistic reasons, and film is
Speaker 1: still really the only place that that happens. I know.
Speaker 1: Netflix I know Apple TV can have more flexibility on that,
Speaker 1: but still there's some resistance to that freedom. There's still
Speaker 1: we want to kind of get the running time around
Speaker 1: this or around that rather than around how long it
Speaker 1: needs to be for this story and film is where
Speaker 1: that is. So getting the cinemas, man, when you feel
Speaker 1: comfortable and safe, I'm not. I'm also not trying to
Speaker 1: rush people out of a pandemic to indoors. You know.
Speaker 1: Lovely Lovely boy. Thank you Scooby as a pit. Thank you,
Speaker 1: Brick Goldstein. I hope you have a wonderful life and
Speaker 1: I see you seeing good night. Oh man, I'm going
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