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Speaker 1: Welcome to Season two of The Good Stuff. I'm Ashley Shick,

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Speaker 1: and I'm joined by my husband and co host, Jacob Shick,

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Speaker 1: a third generation combat marine and CEO of One Tribe Foundation.

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Speaker 2: Ashley also comes from a family rich in military history,

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Speaker 2: and we've dedicated our lives to One Tribe's mission, serving veterans,

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Speaker 2: first responders, and their families. We're coming to you from Dallas,

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Speaker 2: so welcome.

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Speaker 1: To Texas and joining us all season long from Los Angeles,

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Speaker 1: California is our West Coast long haired friend and producer

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Speaker 1: of The Good Stuff, Nick Cassolini.

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Speaker 3: Today we're going to explore the concept of healthy selfish

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Speaker 3: and what traveling does for the human soul. This is

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Speaker 3: definitely a celebratory episode, but just as a quick heads up,

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Speaker 3: this show can explore some heavy subject matter, including toks

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Speaker 3: of suicide, so listener discretion is advised.

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Speaker 1: We are so glad you're joining us again.

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Speaker 4: Welcome to the Good Stuff.

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Speaker 2: So this episode is going to particularly focus on healthy selfish,

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Speaker 2: which is for me, something I learned about years and

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Speaker 2: years ago, which is something everybody should practice. And for

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Speaker 2: ash and I, one thing we do is we travel

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Speaker 2: a lot, and only for work, but we do it

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Speaker 2: to recharge our batteries. And essentially that's what healthy selfish

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Speaker 2: is because we pour so much of ourselves into other

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Speaker 2: people in this mission, in the fight for the greater good,

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Speaker 2: to help people. He'll forward and live. Well, that drained you,

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Speaker 2: you know, it really drained your batteries, It really drained

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Speaker 2: your soul, and so we have to replenish. And so

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Speaker 2: one way we do that, we practice our healthy selfish

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Speaker 2: is through travel. And Lord knows that we have done

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Speaker 2: more than our fair share in the past couple of months.

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Speaker 2: And it's been amazing though. I mean, we get to

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Speaker 2: go see new places, meet new people, learn about new cultures,

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Speaker 2: and it's something that you just really get to come

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Speaker 2: back and you have a whole new, fresh, and reinvigorated

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Speaker 2: perspective on your life and all the things that you have, yeah,

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Speaker 2: and just being so blessed. And so it's such a

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Speaker 4: To do it.

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Speaker 2: And of course we do other things too, but this

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Speaker 3: Ashley. What are some of the places you've been recently?

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Speaker 1: Goodness gracious, how much time do you have? We just

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Speaker 1: in the past few months we actually marked off Jake's

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Speaker 1: fiftieth state, his final state was Alaska. We had a

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Speaker 1: great trip with my parents up there. That was a

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Speaker 1: very meaningful trip. It was a full circle trip. We

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Speaker 1: did our annual Shick Family Beach trip in Orange Beach, Alabama,

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Speaker 1: which is a phenomenal spot to VAK. We went to Ohio.

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Speaker 1: Jake received the Better World Award from the VFW Auxiliary

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Speaker 1: and their annual convention this year was in Ohio. So

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Speaker 1: that was a quick trip but a great one, good

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Speaker 1: soul food. And then we went to Ireland and Scotland,

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Speaker 1: which we've both traveled too many times before, but this

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Speaker 1: was a special trip because Natalie Stanier, who's one of

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Speaker 1: Their son is playing at Kansas State and they kicked

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Speaker 1: Another excuse to go to Ireland, we'll take it. And

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Speaker 1: never been to Scotland. Well, it's a forty five minute flight,

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Speaker 1: Jake spoke to the police department in Sheboygan as well

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so I want to hear about Alaska a little bit.

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Speaker 3: Tell me about your trip to Alaska.

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Speaker 2: I can say this about Alaska, and it's something I

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Speaker 2: I absolutely see why they call it the frontier. Alaska

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Speaker 2: I even felt this way in Michigan. But you get

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Speaker 4: But man, that place was Alaska is definitely a place

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Speaker 3: Actually you described it as full circle. What did you

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Speaker 1: So my grandfather, my mom's dad, was actually killed in

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Speaker 2: But you know, I'll never forget her face when we

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Speaker 1: She was giddy. She loved it. And you know, why

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Speaker 4: So you know, what was the name of that glacier?

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Speaker 2: Spencer Spencer Glacier, the Spencer Glacier. We get on these inflatables.

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Speaker 2: Me being me, I'm immediately thinking of all the things

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Speaker 3: Them, so you have that to look forward to right,

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Speaker 2: Will happen really quickly, so I mean that's a plus.

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Speaker 2: But we're on the sure before we get on the

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Speaker 2: enflavable right, and we had probably ten or twelve of

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Speaker 4: He does this thing. He's young kid, he was awesome.

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Speaker 2: Then I say, okay, so from one end to the

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Speaker 4: People could hit a golf ball. There's no way.

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Speaker 2: hard to comprehend. It's almost like an optical illusion. The

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Speaker 1: There's icebergs floating all in this lake. It's actually the

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Speaker 1: Papa's like, what are we doing? And it said on

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Speaker 1: weather was absolutely perfect. Yeah, it was so so beautiful.

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Speaker 1: It was so peaceful. Like Jake mentioned the clean air that.

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Speaker 1: It was phenomenal. That was just one day. I mean

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Speaker 2: For me, and I'm fairly certain I can speak for

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Speaker 4: Being out there.

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Speaker 2: Admiring God's artistry, I feel so much closer to God

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Speaker 3: Back up, how did the trip to Alaska go for

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Speaker 1: Really? Well, yeah, it was also her birthday, so you know,

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Speaker 1: And it's like, there's a really great place called Sweetberry

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Speaker 1: They have the largest chocolate fountain in the world or something.

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Speaker 2: Like that, but it's a big sign do not touch.

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Speaker 1: And then of course we had to get a picture

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Speaker 1: of Jake almost touching. And then there's a big stuffed

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Speaker 4: That's what's crazy about that. Jee.

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Speaker 2: Now I'm like, hey, history is important. It's important you understand,

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Speaker 2: you know, the our history and the evolution and how

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Speaker 2: we've gotten to where we are. There's a reason that

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Speaker 2: the saying goes history repeats itself because we don't learn,

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Speaker 2: and so we we stress to them how important it

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Speaker 2: is to learn about these things. And you know, really

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Speaker 2: delve into it, ton, It'll give you a lot better understanding.

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Speaker 2: It'll make you, by default, a better decision maker the

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Speaker 2: more you understand about history. And so Scotland is just

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Speaker 2: for me.

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Speaker 4: It is.

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Speaker 2: The only thing I tell people is it's spiritual, because

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Speaker 2: that's all I kept feeling the whole time.

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Speaker 4: Especially when you know.

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Speaker 2: The history, it gives you such a greater appreciation of

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Speaker 2: the beauty, knowing how much tragedy and trauma and turmoil

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Speaker 2: that happened. But you see how beautiful it is now,

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Speaker 2: but you still feel that heaviness.

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Speaker 1: But it was a lot of fun for us too

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Speaker 1: to take Natalie Joseph around because they'd never been right.

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Speaker 1: So the Fringe Festival was kind of wrapping up in Edinburgh.

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Speaker 4: Oh that was crazy.

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Speaker 3: I've had so many friends do that.

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Speaker 4: Oh that was crazy.

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Speaker 1: I've never seen anything like it. Like that was crazy.

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Speaker 1: It was packed, I mean all around the town because

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Speaker 1: we went up to the Castle and we went down

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Speaker 1: to Greyfriars Bobby and we went over to Princess Street.

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Speaker 1: I mean we walked to the entire city of Edinburgh

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Speaker 1: and then that evening, right at sunset, we climbed Arthur's Seat,

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Speaker 1: which was really phenomenal because that was another bucket list

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Speaker 1: never done and that was beautiful. Saw a little bit

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Speaker 1: of sunset. That hill kicked my butt like ten times over.

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Speaker 1: I had not done a physical workout like that in

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Speaker 1: quite a while. But it was early to bed because

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Speaker 1: early to rise because the next day we did do

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Speaker 1: a thirteen hour tour all over Scotland, essentially Dreux or

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Speaker 1: rode from Edinburgh out to glen Coe, where the famous

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Speaker 1: site of in the Scottish Islands of the Glencoe Massacre

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Speaker 1: between the Campbell's and the McDonald's, which is just another historic,

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Speaker 1: terrible tragedy and this absolutely breath taking. It's probably one

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Speaker 1: of our favorite spots on the earth that either of

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Speaker 1: us have ever been to.

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Speaker 2: It is mine, not probably, Yeah.

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Speaker 1: It's it's truly unbelievable. And we've had the pleasure of

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Speaker 1: being three times together now and and so we got

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Speaker 1: to take them out and experience that, and then hit

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Speaker 1: up a couple of towns pit lockery on the way

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Speaker 1: into town and they're on the way back into Edinburgh,

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Speaker 1: and a couple of different just great spots, and so

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Speaker 1: it was a very long day, but it was a

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Speaker 1: beautiful day spent together and we did a luckness.

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Speaker 4: So that's kind of cruz.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, okay, because I think what was that that

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Speaker 2: GEO will give somebody who gets a picture video of

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Speaker 2: NeSSI well, they'll write it two million dollars check to you.

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Speaker 2: And I was like, of course we're not even on

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Speaker 2: this boat. Cruise for ten minutes. Yeah, And Ashley and

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Speaker 2: Natalie without planning it.

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Speaker 1: They have little stickers that make it look like Nessi's

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Speaker 1: in the water, and so we both took pictures and

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Speaker 1: then we were She's like, I'm found Nessy. I'm like

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Speaker 1: me too.

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Speaker 3: Boy, art strikes again.

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Speaker 4: We're all about that. We create a lot of art.

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Speaker 7: Lonis on a day like today, when when it's very

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Speaker 7: very low, it's only ten miles and now that's next

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Speaker 7: to nothing. Then Lochness itself is not tidal at one

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Speaker 7: end as the Caledonian Canal.

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Speaker 3: At the other end, it.

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Speaker 7: Meets in the river Ness and so that means that

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Speaker 7: the surface tends to be very very flat. And because

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Speaker 7: it's very deep two d and thirty night, it meets

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Speaker 7: us the same place as nobody knows the exact depth.

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Speaker 7: I'll tell you why that isn't just a moment. Well,

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Speaker 7: it means that the surface of the loch actually come bitter.

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Speaker 3: All right, We got to take our last commercial break

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Speaker 3: and then we'll bring it home. Welcome back. Now it's

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Speaker 3: time for Jake, Ashley and I to land the plane.

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Speaker 3: For me, traveling has just been one of the greatest

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Speaker 3: joys of my life. You know, it's just so important

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Speaker 3: to me. We talk a lot about on the show

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Speaker 3: about the freedom that we have as Americans, and I

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Speaker 3: can say I never feel as viscerally, unabrightedly free as

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Speaker 3: when I'm traveling. And I remember specifically, mir and I

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Speaker 3: lived in Chicago for five years and then we kind

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Speaker 3: of rolled that to the wheels fall off and we're like,

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Speaker 3: it's time. We're either going to go to New York

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Speaker 3: or LA. And we went to LA and we packed

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Speaker 3: our little tiny Honda fit with everything we owned and

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Speaker 3: or that was worth keeping, I should say, and we

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Speaker 3: were going to drive across the country and spend some

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Speaker 3: time with our family up in Seattle. And of course

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Speaker 3: it was like an ice storm or we left on

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Speaker 3: like the worst possible days, like oh, we're going to die,

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Speaker 3: like ten minutes outside of Chicago. But I just remember

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Speaker 3: being in that car with all of our things and

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Speaker 3: just feeling like we don't have to ask permission. No

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Speaker 3: one gave us the okay, this is like our choice.

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Speaker 3: There was just something about physically like traveling I sort

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Speaker 3: of mean like literally moving through space across land that

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Speaker 3: was It was just one of the freest I've ever felt.

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Speaker 3: And I feel that way being able to get on

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Speaker 3: a plane and come to stay with you guys, I

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Speaker 3: feel that way going overseas or to different countries. I

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Speaker 3: don't know. For me personally, it's the ultimate expression of freedom.

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Speaker 3: I mean, given that also, I'm you know, in a

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Speaker 3: place of privilege and luck and blessings to be able

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Speaker 3: to do it. So I don't mean to like throw

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Speaker 3: that in anyone's face, but it's it's sort of it's

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Speaker 3: one of a kind thing for me that nothing else

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Speaker 3: really can fill that void for me personally.

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Speaker 1: I identify with that so deeply, and I want to

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Speaker 1: encourage people. Even if you say I don't have the money,

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Speaker 1: I don't have the ability put ten dollars aside, if

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Speaker 1: you can put ten dollars aside a month, grow that

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Speaker 1: travel fund, figure out where you want to go. Travel

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Speaker 1: Other places are attainable if you make it a priority.

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Speaker 1: And you know, I remember when when Michael Carnell, one

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Speaker 1: of Jake's best friends who we lost last year season one,

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Speaker 1: we had him tell his incredible story. I remember when

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Speaker 1: Jake went to him and said, what's on your bucket list?

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Speaker 1: And he said, you know, I've never been to Ireland

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Speaker 1: and here he is a Boston Irish proud marine, right,

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Speaker 1: he'd never been to Ireland and Jake made that happen

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Speaker 1: for him. But that's take the trip, eat the dessert,

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Speaker 1: take the trip, soak up the culture, right because for me,

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Speaker 1: I feel the same way. It's if I'm at home,

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Speaker 1: I've got a thousand things to do. If we're on

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Speaker 1: a trip or we're on the road, it's free. You

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Speaker 1: put it beautifully, because that's I feel the exact same way.

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Speaker 1: It's something that not only allows you to get connect

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Speaker 1: connected to other cultures and other places and nature, which

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Speaker 1: you can do at your local, you know, state park,

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Speaker 1: but take that time, take that self care and go

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Speaker 1: see and do and learn something new.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I don't.

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Speaker 4: I don't. What can I add those that? It's like

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Speaker 4: you guys said, at all, it's I agree.

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Speaker 2: I mean I think so many people are are held

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Speaker 2: back by some some aspect or form of fear of something.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and just just go.

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Speaker 2: You know, you don't have to get on a plane

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Speaker 2: and fly across oceans either, right, Ash said, I mean,

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Speaker 2: go to your local state park, go to your local

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Speaker 2: arboretum or wherever they know where they do the flowers

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Speaker 2: and all that stuff.

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Speaker 3: I think, So I don't know, arboretum always sounds like

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Speaker 3: a boat thing to me. But I think you're right.

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Speaker 3: I think it's like trees and stuff.

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Speaker 4: Sure, that thing, that thing.

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Speaker 1: See how traveled we are.

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Speaker 2: Go to the place that does flowers and plants and trees.

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Speaker 1: Just get out of your bubble.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's essentially the point, right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's our PSI for today.

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Speaker 3: Yes, get out of your bubble, find your healthy, selfish.

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Speaker 1: And talk to the locals.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I love talking to the locals.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: It's the best snapshot you can get of a new location.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I do love learning about history, but I also just

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Speaker 3: love being with people.

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Speaker 4: In the now. Thank you so much for listening to

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Speaker 3: the meantime, if you're looking for a companion piece, this episode.

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Speaker 3: Go check out our episode with Danny Manning from season one.

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Speaker 2: Put on your bad ass capes and go be great today,

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