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Speaker 1: Sports Radio hour or two on this Wednesday. Still not

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Speaker 1: sold on Gonzaga. Yeah, I have to wait until Saturday.

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Speaker 1: I guess to prove themselves again. Houston Baylor Saturday, Ucla

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Speaker 1: talk to the UCLA head coach mccronin. He'll join us

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Speaker 1: in a little more than an hour from now. Mike

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Speaker 1: Florio from Pro Football Talk will stop by. Why is

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Speaker 1: it that the attorney for the accusers in the Deshaun

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Speaker 1: to the Houston Police Department And we'll talk about what

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Speaker 1: willing to listen to offers for Deshaun Watson. So Mike

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Speaker 1: Floria will join us and we'll talk about the seventeen

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Speaker 1: game schedule as well. It's finally here. It's been in

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Speaker 1: the making for quite some time, but everybody agreed on

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Speaker 1: the one thing, and that is the money. NFL made

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Speaker 1: it seventeen game schedule official yesterday and there's a few

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Speaker 1: ways you could look at it. I hope it's good

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Speaker 1: for us. The fans. The debate about player health is

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Speaker 1: more complicated. Although they're going to eliminate one preseason game,

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Speaker 1: you know, don't forget that little is going to change here.

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Speaker 1: The joke on Twitter yesterday was now the Cowboys can't

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Speaker 1: Won't have any five hundred teams, or at least many.

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Speaker 1: Our whole conversation about team records are going to change,

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Speaker 1: the single season statistical marks that those will never be

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Speaker 1: the same. Offensive numbers are already ridiculous, and now we're

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Speaker 1: coming years. And then on the field, we were supposed

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Speaker 1: to care about health. The NFL told us to care

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Speaker 1: about health. But the NFL is not that concerned about health,

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Speaker 1: and neither is the players Association. You know, you look

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Speaker 1: at guys who started at quarterback in Week seventeen a

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Speaker 1: last season, John Wolford, Chad Henny, Matt Barkley, CJ. Bethard.

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Speaker 1: They were on the field and that's fine. But with

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Speaker 1: even less to play. And like it or not, seventeen

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Speaker 1: two preseason games. That's what the initial offer was. From

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Speaker 1: what I was told, the NFL offered eighteen games two preseason,

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Speaker 1: surprised at that answer, because I don't think everybody gets

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Speaker 1: to Mike Florio from Pro Football Talk. He'll join us.

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Speaker 1: Coming up. Poll question, McLevin, what are we going to

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Speaker 1: use this hour? Okay? We ask which team would you

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Speaker 1: want to be a tent man on? And the choice

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Speaker 1: were nineties u L, nineties Duke, eighties Georgetown or the

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Speaker 1: Fab five team. The Fab five is winning, all right,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna take because I didn't pick which. Pauli's reminded

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Speaker 1: me that everybody else did, so Georgetown in the eighties.

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Speaker 1: You didn't pick either, McLevin. I got Duke. I want

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Speaker 1: to be on that famous Duke team. Okay, if you

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Speaker 1: and LV had beaten Duke in that second title game.

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Speaker 1: Then I would go U and LV, but I would

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Speaker 1: take the Fab Five because to me, that feels more

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Speaker 1: of college basketball history, like something changed when all five

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Speaker 1: You know, Georgetown was just we're out here. We got business.

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Speaker 1: That's the first team I really remember. This is business like,

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Speaker 1: We got a job to do, and then we'll go

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Speaker 1: you know Later is one of the top five players

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Speaker 1: what about this Gunzaga team, because then every time you watch,

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Speaker 1: spoke Hans nice. Yeah, um, but why do you do this?

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Speaker 1: three D for Dennis Scott. He didn't play any D,

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Speaker 1: yesterday and you were kind of looking at both of

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Speaker 1: these lawyers with what they're saying and how they're framing

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Speaker 1: certain things here, and I thought it would be really

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Speaker 1: beneficial to the audience to at least understand where we

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Speaker 1: are right now and where you think we're going to

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Speaker 1: be headed with Deshaun Watson. Well, Dan two courts in

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Speaker 1: a situation like this, the court of law in the

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Speaker 1: court of public opinion, and a lot has been playing

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Speaker 1: out in the court of public opinion. The only thing

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Speaker 1: that's played out in a court of law so far.

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Speaker 1: Nineteen lawsuits filed, and the way that it works, the

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Speaker 1: civil complaint gets filed once service is performed, and in

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Speaker 1: this case, Rusty Harden, the lawyer for Deshaun Watson, accepting

435
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Speaker 1: actual process that starts the clock on a response. You

436
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Speaker 1: can file an answer to the allegations, and there will

437
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Speaker 1: be nineteen of them in this case, you can file

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Speaker 1: a motion in response to the complaint. I won't be

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Speaker 1: surprised if there isn't some type of an effort by

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Speaker 1: Rusty Harden to challenge all of these complaints based upon

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Speaker 1: the fact that they've been filed under a pseudonym. That

442
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Speaker 1: has been one of the complaints we've seen publicly from

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Speaker 1: Rusty Harden. And I'm not commenting on the accuracy of

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Speaker 1: any of the allegations here. I'm talking about the legal mechanics.

445
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Speaker 1: He could file emotion to dismiss, emotion for a more

446
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Speaker 1: definite statement, something aimed at finding out who the individuals

447
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Speaker 1: are who are making these claims, because he's complained about

448
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Speaker 1: that that tactic so many times in his public statements,

449
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Speaker 1: so there could be emotion to dismiss on that basis.

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Speaker 1: At some point, though the battle is officially joined, the

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Speaker 1: court sets a trial date, and it all moves forward

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Speaker 1: with the discovery process. Deposition testimony, people people telling their

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Speaker 1: versions under oath, documents being obtained, text messages, etc. Typically

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Speaker 1: takes eighteen months to two years in most jurisdictions for

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Speaker 1: it to resolve. So, barring a settlement, and I've advocated

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Speaker 1: publicly repeatedly, the best thing for Deshaun Watson have his reckoning,

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Speaker 1: make this right, satisfy whatever concerns these individuals have, and

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Speaker 1: move on. Otherwise it's going to hover over him. The

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Speaker 1: Texans in the league for two years Dan, are the

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Speaker 1: police involved, well, the criminal courts are not yet involved.

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Speaker 1: And this is where it gets a little confusing. There

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Speaker 1: was a social media post last night from Tony Busby,

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Speaker 1: who represents all nineteen to the plaintiffs, suggesting that he

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Speaker 1: didn't go through with his vow to submit evidence to

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Speaker 1: the Houston Police Department because he's got the concerns that

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Speaker 1: he ran for mayor and there may be some Look,

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Speaker 1: it's the height of cynicism to suggest that there would

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Speaker 1: be nineteen individuals and nineteen who have concerns that the

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Speaker 1: law was violated, and that those concerns would not properly

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Speaker 1: be processed and handled by the Houston Police because somebody

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Speaker 1: doesn't like Tony Busby. And if that's the case, if

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Speaker 1: there's any truth in that, then these nineteen women should

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Speaker 1: be represented by someone else if the lawyer is going

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Speaker 1: to be an impediment to them getting justice in criminal court. Now, Dan,

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Speaker 1: I'll say this as it stands now. The very high

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Speaker 1: bar of proof beyond a reasonable doubt that applies in

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Speaker 1: criminal cases, I think it's difficult to satisfy that based

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Speaker 1: upon the allegations we've seen and the evidence that seems

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Speaker 1: to be out there, which comes down to one person's

480
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Speaker 1: word against another's. But if you go forward with the

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Speaker 1: civil cases, Shaun Watson has a hell of a decision

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Speaker 1: to make. If there's a possibility of prosecution and you

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Speaker 1: get put under oath in the civil case, what are

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Speaker 1: you gonna do. You're gonna invoke your right against self

485
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Speaker 1: incrimination under the Fifth Amendment. You're basically forfeiting the civil

486
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Speaker 1: case if you do that. But if you talk and

487
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Speaker 1: you get twisted in knots by an aggressive lawyer, you

488
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Speaker 1: may give a prosecutor a roadmap for trying to put

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Speaker 1: your behind bars. That's another reason why I say the

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Speaker 1: best thing for him to do find a way to

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Speaker 1: get these cases resolved to the satisfaction of the individuals.

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying make it go away. I'm saying deal

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Speaker 1: with it, deal with it, resolve it. Otherwise it can

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Speaker 1: lead to all sorts of problems down the road. If

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Speaker 1: this was timber with Deshaun Watson be in uniform, I

496
00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:07,320
Speaker 1: thought Mike was giving it great thought there, very dramatic

497
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Speaker 1: pause there. So we lost Florial, So we'll try to

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Speaker 1: get him back. I want to ask him one more

499
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Speaker 1: question about Deshaun Watson. Then the seventeen game schedule because

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Speaker 1: I don't know if everybody gets paid. I don't want

501
00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:21,800
Speaker 1: what this means for your season ticket holder, as far

502
00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:25,000
Speaker 1: as you know what you pay for. You know, there's

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Speaker 1: nine home games, eight home games. Is there going to

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Speaker 1: be a neutral sight home game? You know? That feels

505
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Speaker 1: like there's there's a lot left to be discussed here

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Speaker 1: or kind of vetted with the seventeen game schedule, because

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Speaker 1: I don't I know, we've been planning on this to happen,

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00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:44,760
Speaker 1: but now it's here, and then there's you know, certainly

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Speaker 1: a lot of questions I think people have with the

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Speaker 1: seventeen game schedule. I'm not as concerned about the records

511
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Speaker 1: because the NFL basically said, you know, we don't care

512
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Speaker 1: about the records either. We want more offense here. And

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Speaker 1: you know, is somebody going to get you one hundred

514
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Speaker 1: sixty catches or one hundred and seventy catches, or is

515
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Speaker 1: somebody you know gonna come up who maybe not even

516
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Speaker 1: in the NFL, who's gonna challenge Jerry Rice's numbers? I

517
00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:12,200
Speaker 1: got it. I know, I don't know if anybody cares

518
00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:15,200
Speaker 1: somebody gonna throw for one hundred thousand yards in their career.

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00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:19,159
Speaker 1: I don't think the NFL cares neither, do I you know,

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Speaker 1: when it comes to what these numbers are rushing for

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Speaker 1: two thousand yards? Adding another game, Yeah, Paul, Do you

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Speaker 1: guys think this will make it much harder for a

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Speaker 1: team to have an undefeated season? Because if you're sixteen

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Speaker 1: and oh, that seventeenth game probably doesn't mean a thing

525
00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:35,680
Speaker 1: and they'll rest everybody. I mean, you're you would be

526
00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:38,080
Speaker 1: so far ahead of the second place team for home

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Speaker 1: field advantage. At the idea of a team going seventeen

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00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:44,240
Speaker 1: and oz, the odd's got to be very low, well

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Speaker 1: or less. We haven't had anybody, you know, we had

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Speaker 1: the Dolphins who ran the table. The Patriots ran the

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Speaker 1: table until they lost to the Giants. I guess you

532
00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:56,360
Speaker 1: can flirt with it a little bit, but you know,

533
00:28:56,400 --> 00:29:01,080
Speaker 1: the NFL they want parody. They want you never out

534
00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:03,200
Speaker 1: of the mix. They want you, Hey, you weren't good

535
00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:06,320
Speaker 1: last year. We're going to improve your schedule this year. Now.

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00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:08,920
Speaker 1: They want you to make that jump that somebody goes

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00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:12,480
Speaker 1: from seven wins to ten wins. Now that that's really

538
00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:15,520
Speaker 1: important to the NFL. All right, we'll get phone calls

539
00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:18,000
Speaker 1: coming up, but Fritzie trying to see if he can

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00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:22,000
Speaker 1: relocate Mike Florial. There. Yeah, McLevin, you know I'm sitting

541
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Speaker 1: on against the Green. It's been a little hyped. It's

542
00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:26,080
Speaker 1: been a little under hype. I didn't know you added

543
00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:28,920
Speaker 1: against the Green today. You didn't know about the top three,

544
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:32,840
Speaker 1: bottom three seventeenth game. Ad that's been We've been hyped

545
00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:37,920
Speaker 1: up all more. Well while we wait for Florio. Okay,

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00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:40,800
Speaker 1: here's what I got. Okay, the new system is they

547
00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:45,000
Speaker 1: added a seventeenth game, and they take the basically a

548
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Speaker 1: division in the other conference, and the first place team

549
00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:50,440
Speaker 1: plays first play team second, second, third, third, third. So

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00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:54,080
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you the three best and three worst

551
00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:58,680
Speaker 1: extra matchups. Okay, yeah, stay in your car for this one. People. Okay,

552
00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:02,800
Speaker 1: my one is actually going to be It's pretty obvious.

553
00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:06,000
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay Buccaneers, who came in second in the NFC South,

554
00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:10,920
Speaker 1: played the Indianapolis Colts a little Tom Brady Carson Wentz action.

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00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:15,600
Speaker 1: That's juicy. You're intrigued, I can tell wait, that's the

556
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Speaker 1: best one. That's I think the best one. Tell me

557
00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:20,600
Speaker 1: if any of these are better. You got the Niners, Bengals,

558
00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:25,200
Speaker 1: the mac Jones, Joe Burrow Bowl. You got the Seahawks Steelers,

559
00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:29,080
Speaker 1: assuming Russell Wilson is there, that'd be a good game.

560
00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:32,840
Speaker 1: But the number one Dallas Cowboys New England Patriots both

561
00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:34,920
Speaker 1: came in third last year, and they will match up

562
00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:37,920
Speaker 1: in the extra game. I mean, that's an NFL ratings

563
00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:41,800
Speaker 1: but wait oh, I'm getting a no no Cowboys Patriots.

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00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:44,960
Speaker 1: That's a ratings bonanza. Yeah, but not a great game.

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00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:48,760
Speaker 1: I want to watch Jacksonville Week one next year. These

566
00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:50,600
Speaker 1: will not be Week one games. These will be a

567
00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:55,239
Speaker 1: weeeventeenth game. There's seventeenth game. People are talking about them.

568
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Speaker 1: I don't think they're necessarily last game. Here're the worst ones. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I hate to do this. The Chicago Bears, Las Vegas Raiders,

570
00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:04,880
Speaker 1: the Andy Dalton, Derek carboll is probably not gonna get

571
00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:12,400
Speaker 1: prime done. Okay, Lyons Broncos, Jared Goff versus who is it,

572
00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:16,480
Speaker 1: Drew Locke? Does it matter? No? The Giants Dolphins, that's

573
00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:18,240
Speaker 1: not gonna do it. Daniel Jones to it. But the

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Speaker 1: worst seventeenth game, and I'm sure this gave the NFL

575
00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:24,600
Speaker 1: pause and you'll appreciate this. The Eagles Jets showing down

576
00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:29,680
Speaker 1: the fourth place tame. Are you tuning into Eagles Jets

577
00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:36,520
Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts versus Zach Wilson. Yeah, yeah, sure, yeah, I'm okay.

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Speaker 1: Do you think it's coincidence that they put in this

579
00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:40,880
Speaker 1: year and they get a Patriots Cowboys game? Some people

580
00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:45,160
Speaker 1: were wondering, Oh, okay, you're getting the Patriots and the Cowboys.

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00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:48,560
Speaker 1: You're inserting that in the schedule. Coincidence? I don't know

582
00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:51,000
Speaker 1: if it matters who the Cowboys playing. The Cowboys are

583
00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:53,880
Speaker 1: always a draw. Yeah, pull, and plus by week seventeen,

584
00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:56,200
Speaker 1: it's gonna be Colt McCoy versus a accown brother on

585
00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:58,880
Speaker 1: whatever team you're watching, because everyone's ard culture signed I

586
00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:01,920
Speaker 1: think with the Cardinals. Did Colt McCoy's with the Cardinals?

587
00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:07,040
Speaker 1: It's gonna be Benda Neuci versus Stidham the news. All right,

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00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:08,560
Speaker 1: let me take a break. We'll see if we can

589
00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:12,440
Speaker 1: corral Florio, and we'll come back after this and The

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00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:14,960
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Speaker 1: single day at six eastern three Pacific. Mike Florio trying

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Speaker 1: to extend his airtime and he's done a great job,

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Speaker 1: so we bring Mike back on loan from Pro Football

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Speaker 1: Talk Live. When I last left you, Mike, and I

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00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:02,120
Speaker 1: thought I asked a really great question that made you pause,

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00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:06,920
Speaker 1: and apparently that was not the case. But if it's September,

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Speaker 1: given what Deshaun Watson is going through right now, is

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Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson in uniform in September? Let me preface this

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Speaker 1: by saying, Dan, and under the policies that the NFL

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Speaker 1: has available to it, it can do whatever it wants

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00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:25,200
Speaker 1: and precedent doesn't really matter. Every case is treated individually

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Speaker 1: and it's all driven by pr Personal Conduct Policy Commissioner

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Speaker 1: example list. It's all about how does it make the

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Speaker 1: NFL look most employers vast majority don't care what you

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00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:39,760
Speaker 1: do away from work. Think about that. All this conduct

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00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:42,160
Speaker 1: is away from the workplace. But the NFL and the

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00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:46,000
Speaker 1: NFL Players Association of agreed that these things that happen

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00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:48,640
Speaker 1: away from work can affect the way the players are viewed,

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Speaker 1: the teams are viewed, the league is viewed, So discipline

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Speaker 1: is available commissioners example, ists paid leave. I firmly believe

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Speaker 1: that if these cases are still hovering when September rolls around,

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Speaker 1: haven't been resolved moving forward forward in the civil justice system,

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Speaker 1: that the league will strongly consider putting Deshaun Watson on

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00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:07,680
Speaker 1: paid leave, and that would be the Attoman irony here.

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00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:10,719
Speaker 1: He's wanted out of Houston so badly. That may be

626
00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:14,880
Speaker 1: his only financial lifeline this year, getting ten million plus

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00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:18,400
Speaker 1: to not play while on paid leave, and that Italian

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00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:20,759
Speaker 1: is going to come in handy if he's defending what

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Speaker 1: is now dan according to the Houston Chronicle, twenty one

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00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:26,759
Speaker 1: assault lawsuits that have been filed against him, and who

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00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:29,680
Speaker 1: knows how many more there will be. Commissioners said, we're

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Speaker 1: gonna have fans in the stands to start the season.

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Speaker 1: Is that kind of across all platforms here, all teams

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Speaker 1: all states that they're going to be able to have

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Speaker 1: a capacity. I think it's wishful thinking. In some states,

636
00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:46,440
Speaker 1: obviously Texas, Florida, you're going to have full stadiums no

637
00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:48,759
Speaker 1: matter what the status of the pandemic is. That's not

638
00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:51,839
Speaker 1: a political comment, that's just a fact. Other states, they

639
00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:54,040
Speaker 1: may be a little more hesitant. I think what the

640
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Speaker 1: Commissioner may be trying to do here Dan is speaking

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Speaker 1: into existence in some of these states that may be

642
00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:02,560
Speaker 1: less inclined. Full attendance is permitted. We got a long

643
00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:04,560
Speaker 1: way to go before we get to September. We got

644
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:06,319
Speaker 1: a lot of progress we still need to make when

645
00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:09,440
Speaker 1: it comes to the pandemic. Recently the news hasn't been good.

646
00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:14,200
Speaker 1: It fluctuates as more people get vaccinated, but five months

647
00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:17,440
Speaker 1: is a lifetime as far as the pandemic is concerned.

648
00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:19,799
Speaker 1: There's reason for optimism, but there's still a lot more

649
00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:21,680
Speaker 1: than needs to be done. And specifically, you got to

650
00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:27,040
Speaker 1: convince California, New York, Massachusetts, other state and local governments

651
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Speaker 1: that it's okay not just to have some fans present,

652
00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:33,680
Speaker 1: but to have a full capacity. Your biggest concern with

653
00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:38,320
Speaker 1: the seventeen game schedule is I don't know that. I

654
00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:41,160
Speaker 1: have a concern per se, because the bottom line is

655
00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:43,480
Speaker 1: the players voted for it, the league was determined to

656
00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:45,880
Speaker 1: get it. They were going to get it. My biggest

657
00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:49,160
Speaker 1: expectation is it's a stop over to eighteen, and it's

658
00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:51,720
Speaker 1: just a matter of when the league makes the push

659
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Speaker 1: for eighteen. Will it be when this current CBA expires

660
00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:56,919
Speaker 1: will it be before that. One of the things about

661
00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:59,200
Speaker 1: the new TV deals dan the league has the ability

662
00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:01,360
Speaker 1: to pull the plug on all of them seven years

663
00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:03,960
Speaker 1: in a one time out. I fully expect the league

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Speaker 1: to take that out. And that's a spot where you

665
00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:08,759
Speaker 1: can say, we have another weekend of games for you,

666
00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:12,160
Speaker 1: we want more money for that. The gambling side of

667
00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:14,359
Speaker 1: it has continued to grow. We think the rights are

668
00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:17,720
Speaker 1: more valuable, and I think that that proliferation of gambling.

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Speaker 1: It's about twenty states now twenty two states, it's going

670
00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:22,759
Speaker 1: to get the thirty thirty five forty. I think the

671
00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:25,359
Speaker 1: hard ceiling is forty four because there's only forty four

672
00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:28,279
Speaker 1: states now that have lotteries. But once we get more

673
00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:31,120
Speaker 1: and more states, more and more money, more and more revenue,

674
00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:36,120
Speaker 1: more and more football, I think eighteen is inevitable. They

675
00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:39,360
Speaker 1: still want eighteen. They just decided that seventeen is the

676
00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:43,000
Speaker 1: easier sell for now. Everybody get paid as far as

677
00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:45,560
Speaker 1: the players go with. You get an extra check with

678
00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:49,040
Speaker 1: an extra game. I think they hashed that all out,

679
00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:50,360
Speaker 1: and it was so long ago I have to go

680
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:52,279
Speaker 1: back and refresh my memory. They came up with a

681
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:54,600
Speaker 1: deal where you get an extra check at the rate

682
00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:56,640
Speaker 1: you were supposed to make, although there may be a

683
00:36:56,719 --> 00:36:59,400
Speaker 1: cap on that for some players that would be unfair.

684
00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:02,439
Speaker 1: I think the automn line is you should get one

685
00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:05,040
Speaker 1: more check at the same rate that you were already

686
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:07,960
Speaker 1: due to make for playing that extra game, and I

687
00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:10,880
Speaker 1: think anything less than that would be patently unfair. Talking

688
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:13,880
Speaker 1: to Mike Florio, Pro Football Talk Live co host, you

689
00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:18,000
Speaker 1: know this whole these pro days, and I know you don't,

690
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:20,920
Speaker 1: you know, do deep dives into these kind of things,

691
00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:23,759
Speaker 1: but you know, we're seeing this play out where San

692
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:27,440
Speaker 1: Francisco goes up and we assume they're taking mac Jones,

693
00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:30,440
Speaker 1: and then mac Jones maybe didn't perform as well as

694
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:33,680
Speaker 1: he should have yesterday, and then Justin fields plays or

695
00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:37,520
Speaker 1: performs really well. Here is any of this going to

696
00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:40,279
Speaker 1: matter when we get to the draft In less than

697
00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:42,600
Speaker 1: a month. I don't think it ultimately does. Now. The

698
00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:44,520
Speaker 1: difference between this year and other year's dan there's no

699
00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:47,360
Speaker 1: opportunity for the private workout where any concerns that a

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00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:50,560
Speaker 1: team may have could be alleviated. I remember in twenty fourteen,

701
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:53,920
Speaker 1: Teddy Bridgewater did his Pro Day workout without his gloves

702
00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:57,040
Speaker 1: and it was a disaster. Well, then the Vikings did

703
00:37:57,640 --> 00:37:59,480
Speaker 1: a private workout with him and he put the gloves

704
00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:01,120
Speaker 1: on and they fell in love with him, and so

705
00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:04,360
Speaker 1: that was that problem solved. We're seeing guys do multiple

706
00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:08,000
Speaker 1: Pro Day workouts this year, so so coaches can come

707
00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:10,879
Speaker 1: and watch what they do, like Kyle Shanahan and John

708
00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:14,359
Speaker 1: Lynch yesterday and Tuscaloosa, and I don't read a whole

709
00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:17,839
Speaker 1: lot into anything that happens. Simton I were talking about

710
00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:21,680
Speaker 1: it earlier today on the overthrow that drew the flashback

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00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:24,759
Speaker 1: by Kyle Shanahan to Jimmy Garoppolo missing Emmanuel Sanders in

712
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:27,919
Speaker 1: Super Bowl fifty four. I mean, we don't know if

713
00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:30,880
Speaker 1: the guy ran the route too slow, if he pulled

714
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:32,640
Speaker 1: up at the end, if he wasn't gonna lay out

715
00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:36,560
Speaker 1: and risk injuring himself trying to catch that ball. It

716
00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:40,440
Speaker 1: wasn't a horrible like missed him by twenty yards overthrow

717
00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:43,000
Speaker 1: and if anything, you'd rather overthrow than underthrow. And if

718
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:45,360
Speaker 1: he underthrows it, the guy slows down and catches it.

719
00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:47,399
Speaker 1: You say, hey, he completed a pass in a game.

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Speaker 1: You throw that ball, it's possibly going to be picked

721
00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:53,960
Speaker 1: off by the safety. Yeah, I know it's We're told reminded,

722
00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:56,160
Speaker 1: don't read too much into these pro days. And then

723
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Speaker 1: all of a sudden you start to see some of

724
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Speaker 1: the New York media saying, should the jet to reconsider

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00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:04,919
Speaker 1: Zach Wilson at number two and maybe justin fields, just

726
00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:08,839
Speaker 1: based off him. Yeah, but that fields that Field's throw.

727
00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:12,440
Speaker 1: He's running right to left and he's throwing the ball

728
00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:15,920
Speaker 1: in the direction he's running, and he puts his entire

729
00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:18,960
Speaker 1: body into that throw. The Zach Wilson throw that got

730
00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:22,080
Speaker 1: everyone fired up. He's going right to left and he

731
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Speaker 1: sends it back the other way with a flick of

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00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:28,040
Speaker 1: the wrist. That's why Simms has Wilson at number one

733
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Speaker 1: on his board of quarterbacks, because he sees Mahomes and

734
00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:35,480
Speaker 1: Rogers in the things Wilson can do effortless flick of

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00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:39,000
Speaker 1: the wrist sixty yards down the field. Yeah, it's called Mahomesian.

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Speaker 1: I've coined the phrase Mahomesian throws. I like that. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I'll use that. You can take it. I mean, it

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Speaker 1: doesn't matter. I mean, I'm John Stockton and it's something

739
00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:51,920
Speaker 1: every time I say it. No no, no, no no

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00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:54,640
Speaker 1: no no no. But you know, I just I just

741
00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:56,840
Speaker 1: like John Stockton. I just I'll throw it to you.

742
00:39:56,960 --> 00:39:59,120
Speaker 1: You can be Carl Malon, but there's gonna be a

743
00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:02,920
Speaker 1: whole generation to ki it. Seriously, who have watched Patrick Mahomes.

744
00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:05,600
Speaker 1: I mean, Michael Jordan did the basketball. Patrick Mahomes is

745
00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:08,040
Speaker 1: going to do the quarterback position. There's gonna be, you know,

746
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:11,000
Speaker 1: five p fifteen years from now more and more guys

747
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:13,440
Speaker 1: who come into the NFL playing like Mahomes. And already

748
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:16,400
Speaker 1: here comes a guy, Zach Wilson who can play like Mahomes.

749
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Speaker 1: It's going to revolutionize the game when there are enough

750
00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:21,800
Speaker 1: of those guys playing quarterback. That that's the kind of

751
00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:26,040
Speaker 1: stuff we see any body position, any arm angle, just

752
00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:29,160
Speaker 1: these incredible throws where the ball just gets rifled down

753
00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:31,200
Speaker 1: the field with a flick of the wrist. It's it's awesome.

754
00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:33,640
Speaker 1: It's great for the future of the game. Well, Mahomes

755
00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:36,800
Speaker 1: is doing for quarterbacks what Steph Curry is doing for shooters,

756
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:40,040
Speaker 1: and Steph Curry, to me, has had the biggest impact

757
00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:44,080
Speaker 1: on the NBA in a long time, even bigger from

758
00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:47,879
Speaker 1: the standpoint than Jordan. From that, everybody thinks they can

759
00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:51,120
Speaker 1: do what Steph Curry does. Nobody knew, nobody thought they

760
00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:54,560
Speaker 1: could do what Jordan did with Mahomes. These quarterbacks all

761
00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:57,160
Speaker 1: think that they can do what Mahomes does, or they

762
00:40:57,160 --> 00:41:00,120
Speaker 1: can at least try to do that. You know that.

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Speaker 1: That's what I think is, you know, the impact that

764
00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:04,680
Speaker 1: these two are going to have on their respective sports.

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Speaker 1: That's right, because a certain percentage of the quarterbacks who

766
00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:10,960
Speaker 1: try will realize they can do it, they'll practice it,

767
00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:13,440
Speaker 1: they'll work on it, and then the next thing, you know,

768
00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:16,239
Speaker 1: you got another Patrick Mahomes and another Patrick Mahomes, and

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Speaker 1: it bodes very well for the future of the sport.

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Speaker 1: And Dan, you know, five years ago, I would have

771
00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:23,480
Speaker 1: said there's no way in hell they're going to expand

772
00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:26,160
Speaker 1: the NFL because there aren't enough quarterbacks. I think we're

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00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:29,000
Speaker 1: getting to the point where there's enough quarterbacks, and I'm

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00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:31,759
Speaker 1: telling you, once they get to eighteen games. The next

775
00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:35,400
Speaker 1: way you increase inventory for gambling purposes is to increase teams.

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00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:38,120
Speaker 1: Just wait for it. It's coming thirty four, thirty six.

777
00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:40,200
Speaker 1: They're going to start talking about it. And once they

778
00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:42,480
Speaker 1: start talking about it, you know they've got a plan

779
00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:46,799
Speaker 1: in place to Okay, but where are we expanding too? Well?

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00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:50,160
Speaker 1: I think that the overseas markets need to be taken seriously.

781
00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:53,359
Speaker 1: Two teams in London, maybe elsewhere. Peter King suggested last

782
00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:56,160
Speaker 1: night a full division of four teams that would be international,

783
00:41:56,520 --> 00:42:00,200
Speaker 1: and there's always a market or two in the u As.

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Speaker 1: You could drop a team in San Diego, you could

785
00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:04,920
Speaker 1: drop a team in Saint Louis, although Saint louis currently

786
00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:07,600
Speaker 1: suing the NFL for a lot of money. They'd have

787
00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:10,480
Speaker 1: to mend those fences first. And I've said for years

788
00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:12,799
Speaker 1: the prospect of a second team in Chicago. And they

789
00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:15,840
Speaker 1: got two baseball teams, right, why couldn't you put a

790
00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:20,120
Speaker 1: second NFL team in Chicago? And so I just think

791
00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:24,520
Speaker 1: that the push to have more football content that's televised,

792
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:29,080
Speaker 1: with in game betting, play by play betting, more and

793
00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:32,120
Speaker 1: more and more, they'll find places to put teams. Yeah,

794
00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:34,120
Speaker 1: they got to get one good team in Chicago, and

795
00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:36,920
Speaker 1: then I think that you can expand that, so it

796
00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:40,560
Speaker 1: would be the expansion team. Yeah. Yeah, they haven't had

797
00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:42,799
Speaker 1: two good teams in New York for a decade. Well,

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00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:45,239
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, look at the the Jets haven't

799
00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:47,600
Speaker 1: done anything, and the Giants since they won the Super

800
00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:49,520
Speaker 1: Bowl ten years ago, have been to the playoffs one time.

801
00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:52,440
Speaker 1: So we suggest that they merge, and we thought that

802
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:54,560
Speaker 1: maybe if they merged, they might be a playoff team.

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00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:57,040
Speaker 1: That's but you know what, Zach, if they if they

804
00:42:57,040 --> 00:42:59,560
Speaker 1: don't screw up to Zach Wilson thing, the Jets may

805
00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:03,120
Speaker 1: finally have their Joe Namoth all these years later. Thank you, Mike,

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00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:06,520
Speaker 1: As always, thanks to Answerry about the technical issues. Buddy,

807
00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:11,760
Speaker 1: that's Mike Florio Pro Football Talk Live. We're getting eighteen

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00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:15,320
Speaker 1: games eventually. Now, is it going to happen overnight the

809
00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:17,440
Speaker 1: next couple of years. No, I don't think so, but

810
00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:22,160
Speaker 1: it's going to happen. This is what the owners ask for,

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00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:24,080
Speaker 1: this from what I'm told, and they were going to

812
00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:27,760
Speaker 1: do two preseason games and then they knew the players

813
00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:32,279
Speaker 1: would come back and go, wow, seventeen and that's where

814
00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:35,880
Speaker 1: we're headed. The expansion part would be interesting, all right,

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Speaker 1: Final hour coming up, more phone calls and the UCLA

816
00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:41,360
Speaker 1: head coach mccronin will join us back after this