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Speaker 2: Good Morning Football.

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Speaker 3: Welcome to GMFP, Live in Los Angeles, Live in New

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Speaker 3: York City. It is Monday, April seventh. Sarah Walsh alongside

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Speaker 3: Isaiah standback.

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Speaker 4: We've got Kyle Brant. We've got a very professional.

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Speaker 3: Former New York Giants first round draft pick in Justin Pugh. Kyle,

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Speaker 3: you were just talking about. Look at Justin next year.

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Speaker 3: Isaiah's rocking a Sesame.

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Speaker 2: Street T shirt.

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Speaker 5: He look, I just came from a Kingsman's shoes, you know,

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Speaker 5: so you were in a movie to Kingsman. I've seen

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Speaker 5: you suited and booted over there.

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Speaker 4: It looks great, Isaiah.

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Speaker 5: What episode is this for you? Isaiah?

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Speaker 6: It's my first one, so I'm still getting all figured out.

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Speaker 5: Listen, Isaiah's done three thousand episodes. It's incredible. But you

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Speaker 5: look cleaned off. You to love everything about it.

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Speaker 4: Now, you made it. Now we're wondering. You've shown up

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Speaker 4: in a sweatshirt.

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Speaker 3: Tomorrow we'll leave the yours wondering. By the way, you

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Speaker 3: and Isaiah were teammates. Maybe not on the football field,

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Speaker 3: but you were teammates in a very prestigious broadcast boot camp.

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Speaker 5: Look at this, Look at a height difference. I don't know,

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Speaker 5: I don't know. I need to raise me up. Can

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Speaker 5: I stood something next time?

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Speaker 4: Yeah? You're a tall guy.

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Speaker 7: Wow.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm not a small human being. But he makes

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Speaker 5: me look more. Why they stick us in the back? Yeah?

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Speaker 5: You see that? How Dan dactly? Yeah? The quarterbacks?

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Speaker 6: Matt ties over there to the honey Badger.

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Speaker 4: What was the biggest lesson you learned?

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Speaker 3: Obviously it was justin dressed for the job you want?

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Speaker 4: Would you learn?

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Speaker 8: You know, I learned a lot about the industry. Hey,

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Speaker 8: and I'm sure you JP did as well. You know,

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Speaker 8: obviously this looks you know, I know, Kyle, you know,

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Speaker 8: individuals like you said, you guys make it look easy, but.

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Speaker 5: Being on TV takes a lot of work.

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Speaker 8: And that's what's so great about the about the boot

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Speaker 8: camp that the NFL players are allowed to go. Do

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Speaker 8: you put in you hope that they choose you and

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Speaker 8: then you utilize the reps to go out there to try.

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Speaker 5: To get in a position like this. But you guys

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Speaker 5: do an amazing job.

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Speaker 4: Well, we're happy to have you both here.

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Speaker 3: We're also happy to have this morning our NFL Network

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Speaker 3: Insider in Rap Report and the Big News, shar Sanders

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Speaker 3: took center stage at Colorado's NFL Showcase. Give us the fallout, coaches, GMS,

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Speaker 3: what is the word on the street this morning?

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Speaker 7: And that's what a pretty star set of affair the

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Speaker 7: Colorado Showcase.

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Speaker 5: Not Shador Sanders prota.

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Speaker 7: There were several other players there showing off for NFL Scouts,

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Speaker 7: including Travis Hunter, a potential where I would say likely

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Speaker 7: running a route. So several of the teams who were

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Speaker 7: there also there to check him out see if he

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Speaker 7: would go two or three, four five maybe. But let's

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Speaker 7: focus in on Shador Sanders because of course he was

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Speaker 7: the main event. He was the headline guy at this event.

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Speaker 7: So he threw I would say, about sixty or so

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Speaker 7: passes for NFL Scouts, all sorts of routes, flash the

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Speaker 5: Kind of did a thing.

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Speaker 7: After talking to NFL Network about basically how everyone thinks

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Speaker 7: the depfall sounded like a really positive work out, just

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Speaker 7: plenty there that you probably liked. Another interesting note after

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Speaker 7: this was the Tennessee Titans planned to show up, you know,

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Speaker 7: kind of sparsely at this event and then workout Shador

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Speaker 3: And one that will be picked apart and dissected and

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Speaker 4: And thank you so much.

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Speaker 3: So there is all of those things, and you know

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Speaker 3: there's all the secrecy and these chess moves. Isaiah, what

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Speaker 3: is your biggest takeaway from the Colorado Showcase?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, so, first of all, I'm going to be on

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Speaker 8: You have your receivers, you have your tight end, you're

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Speaker 8: these coaches and decision makers are going to have opportunity

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Speaker 8: They're not seeing these guys have to do any adjust

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Speaker 5: It leaves me curious to say, what is it that

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Speaker 8: Not see that seemingly leads them to believe that they

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Speaker 1: I hear what you're saying, Isaiah, it's a strong take

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Speaker 1: I thought this pro day was revelatory. I think my

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Speaker 1: Sanders because he pats the football. I think he'll be

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Speaker 1: undrafted all through seven roundsers no possible you could draft.

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Speaker 1: Bring up the videotape guy's irreparable damage to Shadora Sanders's

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Speaker 1: he does a little tap one sixteenth of a second,

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Speaker 5: Not the first round.

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Speaker 1: Not the first He's gonna free fall and end up

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Speaker 5: It's not a straw man.

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Speaker 1: Go ahead and go to the social media component. We

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Speaker 1: better stop patting the ball. We're breaking on that early, okay.

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Speaker 1: And then Darius Slayton on the Giants is trying to

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Speaker 1: defend them. But Michael Parsons comes in. You realize that

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Speaker 1: pat on the ball could be difference between a sacker

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Speaker 1: throw away completion. Again, I don't think you draft Schendor

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Speaker 1: Sanders because I did the research. Guys, there has never

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Speaker 1: been an NFL quarterback who pats the ball who's had

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Speaker 5: I even have videotape. Bring up the videotape.

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Speaker 1: All the guys who pat the ball like that guy

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Speaker 1: never amounted to anything.

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Speaker 5: Give me more. It's not just a one off.

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Speaker 1: Matthew Staff pat right before he throws, has never done

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Speaker 1: doesn't never bright future. Look at the pack before the

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Speaker 1: giant deep ball again. You can't draft your door, Josh Allen,

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Speaker 1: What do you want? MVP pat before he throws the ball?

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Speaker 1: Brady again, he actually played for a team called the Pats,

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Speaker 1: and he's patting Rogers. Watch Pat get out of here.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna go back down to planet Earth. Now, you

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Speaker 1: knew that after Shador's workout, showcase, spectacle, whatever circus, whatever

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Speaker 1: and they were going to be daggers, and they were

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Speaker 1: exceptions record is stupid. It's doing it just for doing it.

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Speaker 1: Look at what I just showed. You don't do it.

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Speaker 1: If you have honest criticism, then make it. But if

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Speaker 1: know who else pats the ball. Cam Ward pats the

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Speaker 1: you guys said squat. You're saying it because his last

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Speaker 5: He pats the.

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Speaker 1: Ball just like Josh Allen does, just like Tom Brady does,

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Speaker 1: and on and on and on. If you want to

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Speaker 1: criticize anything about his attitude or his arm strength, fine,

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Speaker 1: but the patting the ball thing is stupid. And I

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Speaker 1: hope you don't talk about it in this show from

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Speaker 1: this day forward, and I know you'll talk about on

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Speaker 1: the other shows. Good luck, Leave the guy along unless

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Speaker 1: you have something honest to say.

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Speaker 5: That's my take.

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Speaker 6: Well, let's think about what's going on on the football

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Speaker 6: field when this is happening. Defensive backs are turning their

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Speaker 6: running down field. You have d lineman in your face.

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Speaker 6: You have six foot five rock Perty just came out

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Speaker 6: and said he doesn't see forty percent of his receivers

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Speaker 6: down the field.

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Speaker 5: Do we really think people are honing.

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Speaker 6: In on the pat What I loved about your doors

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Speaker 6: pro day is we got to see the intangibles. You

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Speaker 6: got to see him in the huddle, breaking down the guys.

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Speaker 6: That is what a quarterback's all about. I don't need

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Speaker 8: Hey, is you like to pat the ball because it's

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Speaker 8: But in reality, how many defensive backs are breaking on

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and he can get rid of the padding or

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Speaker 1: Like all the guys and many more I showed who

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Speaker 3: This will surprise no one, But we are not done

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Speaker 3: talking about Deon Sanders and Shudur Sanders on this show.

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Speaker 3: We got more to come. It is draft season. That

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Speaker 3: We want to bring in wrapping forward, our NFL network

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Speaker 3: this production call very early this morning talking about Aaron

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Speaker 4: What is going on? What is taking so long?

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Speaker 3: What is the latest Aaron Rodgers Ian rapaport go.

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Speaker 7: There has been a lot of smoke about this decision. Obviously,

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Speaker 7: Speed ahead with JJ McCarthy. There are no other spots.

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Speaker 7: Well, I think, Kyle, with Aaron Rodgers, you never quite know.

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Speaker 5: Well that did not happen.

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Speaker 5: So really, what you have to do is lean on facts.

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Speaker 7: Facts, which is Aaron Rodgers visited the Steelers. Facts which

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Speaker 7: Chooses the Steelers or chooses to retire, lean on the

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Speaker 5: Going to be wrong.

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Speaker 3: Now, a couple items related to those Cowboys. First, Dallas

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Speaker 3: released backup quarterback of Tree Lance Lance signed by the Chargers,

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Speaker 3: and then the Cowboys traded for Joe Milton to be

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Speaker 3: dacked back that Milton was previously with the Patriots, and

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Speaker 3: that leads us into our second topic, the Cowboys twenty

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Speaker 3: twenty five off season. Isaiah, We're going to start with you.

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Speaker 3: You're in Dallas. Should we be concerned you work for

446
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Speaker 3: the team?

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Speaker 4: No pressure?

448
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Speaker 5: Yeah, no, there's no concern. And I know that a

449
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Speaker 5: lot of people obviously the.

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Speaker 8: Cowboys, they're the star, They're you know, as Kyle would

451
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Speaker 8: say at times, America's team. But the reality is, these

452
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Speaker 8: guys have made some very strategic moves. Now is it

453
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Speaker 8: the big splash moves that everybody is looking for? Is

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Speaker 8: it the big headline moves that everybody's looking for?

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Speaker 5: The answer is no.

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Speaker 8: But I would like to bring up a graphic and

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Speaker 8: show the work that is being done by the new

458
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Speaker 8: head coach, Brian Schoanheimer. See you most under the radar

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Speaker 8: additions that the Cowboys have made. There has been a

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Speaker 8: point emphasis of controlling the line of scrimmage in Dallas,

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Speaker 8: And this is who Brian schott Himer has hired. He

462
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Speaker 8: went out and got Cardinals old line coach Clayton Adams

463
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Speaker 8: to be his offensive coordinator. Clayton Adams was regarded and

464
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Speaker 8: is regarded as one of, if not the best of

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Speaker 8: offensive line coach in the NFL.

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Speaker 5: What else did they do?

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Speaker 8: They went out and hired the offensive line coach Connor Riley,

468
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Speaker 8: who happens to be considered to be the best offensive

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Speaker 8: line coach in college football.

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Speaker 5: There's an emphasis in the trenches. Else, what else did

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Speaker 5: they do?

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Speaker 8: They went to the defensive side of the ball and

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Speaker 8: they hired Aaron Whitecotten, who is Aaron Whitecott. Well, he

474
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Speaker 8: is just happened to be the best defensive.

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Speaker 5: Line coach in the NFL.

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Speaker 8: So they got the best offensive line coach, they got

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Speaker 8: the best defensive line offensive line coach, and they got

478
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Speaker 8: the best office line coach out of college. These guys

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Speaker 8: are putting a point of emphasis.

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Speaker 5: In the trenches. I know, JP, you can appreciate that

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Speaker 5: when you.

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Speaker 8: Talk about Brydon shot Himer, everybody he's not the big

483
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Speaker 8: headline coach that everybody was looking for, but sometimes they

484
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Speaker 8: just have to do his job. And that is to

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Speaker 8: be a manager of men. You don't have to be

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Speaker 8: the do it all coach. You don't have to be

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Speaker 8: the guy that simply is regarded as a as a

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Speaker 8: Bill Belichick or Mike Tomler, any of these big, big,

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Speaker 8: high high arching coaches. If you put guys in place

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Speaker 8: to do what they do best, then you can have

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Speaker 8: some success. And that has been the focus of the

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Speaker 8: Dallas Cowboys, and they're building it from the big fellas

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Speaker 8: up front. And it might be a little bit of

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Speaker 8: a tip of the hat as to what they may

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Speaker 8: be planning to do in this year's draft.

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Speaker 6: Isaiah, I'm a bit nervous for your Cowboys.

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Speaker 5: Now.

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Speaker 6: Look, I know you're with the team every offseason. It

499
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Speaker 6: seems like the Cowboys do this over and over again

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Speaker 6: and say, hey, we're.

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Speaker 5: The Dallas Cowboys.

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Speaker 6: You should want you should want to be our coach,

503
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Speaker 6: you should want to come play for us, you should

504
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Speaker 6: want to take a pay cut. And every single year

505
00:20:51,788 --> 00:20:54,908
Speaker 6: we play poker with our players. We pay Dak Prescott

506
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Speaker 6: sixty million dollars a year. We're paying CD at the

507
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Speaker 6: top of the market. We claim we don't know who

508
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Speaker 6: Michael Parson's agent is and We're going to end up

509
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Speaker 6: paying him the highest defensive paid player in the league. Now,

510
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Speaker 6: I'm looking at the trenches right now, and I'm still

511
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Speaker 6: wondering did we address those right? We have some young

512
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Speaker 6: talent that we drafted. We think we have some guys

513
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Speaker 6: up front, but we have to continue to prove that

514
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Speaker 6: day in and day out. The Dallas Cowboys, Yes, you

515
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Speaker 6: have Dak, you have CD, you have Micah, but after that,

516
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Speaker 6: you're still there's still some question marks. You look at

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Speaker 6: Mazi Smith OsO A Digizua is a great player. Love

518
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Speaker 6: that they paid him and got that deal done. But

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Speaker 6: every time I turn on the TV or I hear

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Speaker 6: something going on. I was down at owner meetings and

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Speaker 6: seeing the hoopla that comes out of Dallas. There is

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Speaker 6: one hundred percent concern when you look at the Dallas

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Speaker 6: Cowboys because I still see a team that finished the

524
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Speaker 6: year stronger than many people thought. They're getting Dak Prescott back,

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Speaker 6: but I'm not having all the answers. You look at

526
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Speaker 6: the NFC East, you look at what the commanders have done.

527
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Speaker 6: You're looking at what the Philadelphia Eagles and who they are. Obviously,

528
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Speaker 6: the New York Giants are bringing up the rear and

529
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Speaker 6: they have a lot to prove. But I'm still a

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Speaker 6: little nervous and big d Isaiah.

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Speaker 5: You're the man.

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Speaker 1: I want everyone to understand at home that Isaiah literally

533
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Speaker 1: works for the Cowboys and ass point blank are you concerned?

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Speaker 5: And it'd be like.

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Speaker 1: Someone asking me, like, has the twenty twenty five NFL

536
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Speaker 1: media group offseason given you a reason for concern? Well,

537
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Speaker 1: we have the departure of Peter Schrager, Like break that down. No, no, no,

538
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Speaker 1: I think we're fine because we have this, this, and this,

539
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Speaker 1: Like it's not the most easy thing to answer, and

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Speaker 1: I think you're doing God's work going and talking about

541
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Speaker 1: the trenches and the coaches and everything.

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Speaker 5: Isaiah.

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Speaker 1: It's a really, really strange time for the Cowboys. I'm

544
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Speaker 1: not gonna say good or bad. It's strange because there

545
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Speaker 1: is very little buzz and there is very little sizzle

546
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Speaker 1: and in the most unusual circumstances. Listen, it's not just Philadelphia.

547
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Speaker 1: Washington is a bright, shiny object who has been nothing

548
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Speaker 1: for the last twenty years. Now they're one of the

549
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Speaker 1: coolest teams in the league. And the Giants seem fun

550
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Speaker 1: and they're gonna draft someone really high and they got

551
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Speaker 1: Jamis and Russell.

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Speaker 5: Like, there is so little buzz.

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Speaker 1: So even when the team, when the Cowboys are the

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Speaker 1: Cowboys for all their faults, they still have buzz. And

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Speaker 1: it's still Jerry surrounded by microphones and you're hanging on

556
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Speaker 1: every word. Are you right now? Like it's if Mike

557
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Speaker 1: and Mike get paid, he should get paid. They're gonna

558
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Speaker 1: they have this like this twelve draft pick and if

559
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Speaker 1: no one knows who they're gonna take. Even in a

560
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Speaker 1: lot of the draft breakdowns, which we do twenty four

561
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Speaker 1: to seven, there's not a lot of Cowboys conversation and

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Speaker 1: Cowboys takes. So we're at a place right now where

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Speaker 1: what we should be to the headline of their offseason,

564
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Speaker 1: by far, should be that Mike McCarthy was let go

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Speaker 1: and they have a new Dallas head Cowboys head coach.

566
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Speaker 1: And there was a time when the Cowboys had a

567
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Speaker 1: new coach was oh my god, this is leading every

568
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Speaker 1: show in every segment and we're like yeah, I mean,

569
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Speaker 1: no one's that fired up about it.

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Speaker 5: So I'm not concerned. I'm not excited.

571
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Speaker 1: I'm a little bit bored, and I'm just waiting for

572
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Speaker 1: this jolt of electricity.

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Speaker 5: It didn't come in free agency.

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Speaker 1: It's not coming from a Mica contract.

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Speaker 5: Maybe it comes from the draft.

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Speaker 1: I want them to clear the table on draft night,

577
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Speaker 1: trade up, go from twelve to eight, do something really bold.

578
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Speaker 1: I'm like, the Cowboys mean business. They're not just gonna

579
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Speaker 1: hand this season to the Eagles and the Commanders.

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Speaker 5: I'm a little bit bored.

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Speaker 1: And all this time in my entire life, I can

582
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Speaker 1: remember thinking the Cowboys were great. I can remember thinking

583
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Speaker 1: the Cowboys were bad. I can't ever really remember thinking

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys were boring.

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Speaker 5: And they are right now, you know what.

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Speaker 8: I respect that take. But in the words of Nagade's butler,

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Speaker 8: the Cowboys are being vinne vetty sneaky right now, vene

588
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Speaker 8: vetty sneaky.

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Speaker 5: And the reason why and.

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Speaker 8: The reason why I say that is because in this league,

591
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Speaker 8: where we're so used to seeing the headlines that we

592
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Speaker 8: want to see rap sheet come on there and talk

593
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Speaker 8: about who just got signed, it gets forgotten and it

594
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Speaker 8: gets left behind this.

595
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Speaker 5: Thing called development.

596
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Speaker 8: There's this thing called development that still has to take place.

597
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Speaker 8: Coaches still have a very influential role in this league,

598
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Speaker 8: and everybody wants the player that has already made it

599
00:24:45,148 --> 00:24:47,948
Speaker 8: he's already that guy. He's already the star that everybody wants.

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Speaker 8: When in reality, when you look at most teams' rosters,

601
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Speaker 8: they might draft somebody in the first round, they might.

602
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Speaker 5: Draft somebody in the seventh ground.

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Speaker 8: Regardless of where they were drafted, there still has to

604
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Speaker 8: be coaching and progression and development that has to take place.

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Speaker 8: So when you look at the trenches, you look at

606
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Speaker 8: the officsive line. Dallas has two first round picks on

607
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Speaker 8: the offensive line that have to continue to get developed.

608
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Speaker 8: One of them is all pro already, one of them

609
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Speaker 8: didn't do anything last year. And Tyler guy, he has

610
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Speaker 8: to figure out life. That's why they brought in some

611
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Speaker 8: help there. I still think that obviously Zach Martin left

612
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Speaker 8: a huge gaping hole on the offensive line, but they

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Speaker 8: have a couple of guys that most.

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Speaker 5: People would know about.

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Speaker 8: There are some brawlers in there jp that you could appreciate,

616
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Speaker 8: that have the gut and the will and the gall

617
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Speaker 8: that just needs some coaching and development. On the defense

618
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Speaker 8: side of the ball, Mozzie Smith, he's a first round pick,

619
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Speaker 8: hasn't come along. What do they do They get white

620
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Speaker 8: guy to go out there and help him, right, So,

621
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Speaker 8: this development piece is there. The Cowboys have always been competitive.

622
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Speaker 8: That is not me just because I worked for them.

623
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Speaker 8: That is the reality. They've always been competitive. The issue

624
00:25:42,828 --> 00:25:45,148
Speaker 8: has always been they haven't got over the hunk.

625
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Speaker 5: So what's gonna take to get over the hunk?

626
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Speaker 3: Quarterback Sheear Sanders showed off his accuracy and his deep

627
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Speaker 3: ball ability during Colorado's showcase on Friday. Was it enough

628
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Speaker 3: to change the minds of some critics? Our guy Steve

629
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Speaker 3: Weisch and Brian Baldinger sat down with Shador to talk

630
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Speaker 3: about his performance.

631
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Speaker 5: Shuart, what about this because you didn't test, you didn't

632
00:26:06,068 --> 00:26:09,028
Speaker 5: you know, throw at at the combine or anything like this?

633
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Speaker 1: Did you put any added pressure on yourself to come

634
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Speaker 1: out here and say and do that.

635
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Speaker 11: No, there's no pressure. It's pressure when I wake up

636
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Speaker 11: in the morning, you know. So there's no added pressure

637
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Speaker 11: anywhere in my life, I'll say at all.

638
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Speaker 12: I thought the script had a lot of variety to it,

639
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Speaker 12: including the final two minute drill what you want, a

640
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Speaker 12: lot of games on Baylor. I'm just thinking some of

641
00:26:27,868 --> 00:26:31,148
Speaker 12: the games going back, like was that part of the process, Like, Okay,

642
00:26:31,508 --> 00:26:33,588
Speaker 12: it's crunch time, let's go down and finish this thing.

643
00:26:33,788 --> 00:26:36,748
Speaker 11: Yeah, because that's the most important part of football.

644
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Speaker 9: And I know that's where I'm the.

645
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Speaker 11: Best, you know, in in the class and the best

646
00:26:40,308 --> 00:26:42,628
Speaker 11: in the country at is in a two minute so

647
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Speaker 11: you know that's that's that's where my X factor comes

648
00:26:45,868 --> 00:26:46,108
Speaker 11: out in.

649
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Speaker 12: It's almost a pretty football. When you go deep, you

650
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Speaker 12: do it like is that a natural thing? The spirals tighter,

651
00:26:53,628 --> 00:26:56,828
Speaker 12: the accuracy is it's right to the fingers. Like if

652
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Speaker 12: you always thrown a deep ball like that, did you

653
00:26:58,548 --> 00:26:59,148
Speaker 12: need to learn that?

654
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Speaker 2: Nah?

655
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Speaker 9: I heard I can't throw to the ball, so that ball,

656
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Speaker 9: that's what I hear.

657
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Speaker 5: But that I'm gonna break that out. Yeah, it down.

658
00:27:09,628 --> 00:27:11,588
Speaker 11: I don't know where they get that from, you know.

659
00:27:11,748 --> 00:27:14,748
Speaker 11: So every I understand different thrones, and I understand what

660
00:27:14,948 --> 00:27:17,228
Speaker 11: has to be done. Like I don't throw one balls

661
00:27:17,228 --> 00:27:19,188
Speaker 11: every time if it's unnecessary. Why I don't want to

662
00:27:19,188 --> 00:27:20,748
Speaker 11: make it hard on my receivers to catch the ball.

663
00:27:21,068 --> 00:27:24,748
Speaker 11: I understand, you know, with the good the strengths, their weaknesses,

664
00:27:24,788 --> 00:27:26,428
Speaker 11: and I'm not gonna make it tough on them. That's

665
00:27:26,468 --> 00:27:27,068
Speaker 11: my whole job.

666
00:27:27,228 --> 00:27:28,748
Speaker 5: What do you say people say you can't throw the

667
00:27:28,788 --> 00:27:31,468
Speaker 5: deep ball. As we're going through this process, do you

668
00:27:31,628 --> 00:27:32,548
Speaker 5: pay attention.

669
00:27:33,868 --> 00:27:35,588
Speaker 9: I just know that's the devil trying to get at me.

670
00:27:35,628 --> 00:27:37,788
Speaker 11: Man. You know, I know I'm one of Guy's favorites,

671
00:27:37,828 --> 00:27:39,388
Speaker 11: so I'm not really tripping on.

672
00:27:40,428 --> 00:27:43,708
Speaker 12: We saw we saw under center today, nigga. You obviously

673
00:27:43,828 --> 00:27:46,948
Speaker 12: Pat Shermer. You guys had your inside receivers or outside receivers.

674
00:27:47,108 --> 00:27:49,348
Speaker 12: You're playing with tempo. That's probably going to change a

675
00:27:49,348 --> 00:27:51,228
Speaker 12: great deal at the NFL level. You wanted to show

676
00:27:51,268 --> 00:27:53,548
Speaker 12: some of that, the play action running back in the

677
00:27:53,588 --> 00:27:55,788
Speaker 12: backfield and a little bit of movement as well.

678
00:27:55,788 --> 00:27:57,268
Speaker 9: You gotta understand my basis though.

679
00:27:57,508 --> 00:28:00,228
Speaker 11: My dad was my coach in uh since I was

680
00:28:00,388 --> 00:28:03,108
Speaker 11: six seven, So that's what that's where I learned. I

681
00:28:03,188 --> 00:28:06,588
Speaker 11: learned under center first. I didn't learn shotgun until you know.

682
00:28:06,788 --> 00:28:09,188
Speaker 11: It took a little time, but that's where you know,

683
00:28:09,788 --> 00:28:12,948
Speaker 11: that's where having great parents, you know, my mom and

684
00:28:13,028 --> 00:28:15,948
Speaker 11: dad showing you different parts of life, doing different things

685
00:28:15,948 --> 00:28:18,988
Speaker 11: with you. So whenever you get older, it's second nature.

686
00:28:20,308 --> 00:28:21,428
Speaker 4: Let's Shudur Sanders there.

687
00:28:21,428 --> 00:28:24,308
Speaker 3: When we come back Cooper Cup now in Seattle after

688
00:28:24,388 --> 00:28:26,388
Speaker 3: eight seasons with the Rams, We're going to show you

689
00:28:26,468 --> 00:28:29,868
Speaker 3: an emotional, very cool goodbye that'll get you in your Feelings.

690
00:28:29,908 --> 00:28:43,108
Speaker 2: Next, Good Morning Football.

691
00:28:43,828 --> 00:28:46,468
Speaker 3: Good morning everyone, it is time to get emotional. We

692
00:28:46,548 --> 00:28:49,108
Speaker 3: call this segment All the Feels. We're going to show

693
00:28:49,148 --> 00:28:51,748
Speaker 3: you some video that tugs at the heart strings, and

694
00:28:51,748 --> 00:28:54,348
Speaker 3: then we're going to pull out the whiteboards and describe

695
00:28:54,348 --> 00:28:56,988
Speaker 3: what we're feeling in one word. We're gonna start with

696
00:28:56,988 --> 00:28:59,428
Speaker 3: Cooper Cup and a short piece that shows his last

697
00:28:59,468 --> 00:29:02,348
Speaker 3: workout with the Rams as he says goodbye to his

698
00:29:02,468 --> 00:29:04,188
Speaker 3: teammates for the final time.

699
00:29:05,788 --> 00:29:09,588
Speaker 13: It doesn't, necessarily, I guess, feel real, but it's been

700
00:29:09,668 --> 00:29:13,428
Speaker 13: like an absolute blessing in my life to be able

701
00:29:13,468 --> 00:29:14,908
Speaker 13: to watch him work, and to be able to be

702
00:29:14,988 --> 00:29:17,068
Speaker 13: by his side, and to be able to work with

703
00:29:17,188 --> 00:29:19,308
Speaker 13: him and compete with him, and then also to hear

704
00:29:19,388 --> 00:29:21,628
Speaker 13: all of the advice that he's given and the cues

705
00:29:21,668 --> 00:29:22,908
Speaker 13: that he has in the game of football, and the

706
00:29:22,988 --> 00:29:25,548
Speaker 13: understanding he has of how to be a leader in

707
00:29:25,588 --> 00:29:27,508
Speaker 13: the locker room, how to be a professional, how to

708
00:29:27,588 --> 00:29:30,148
Speaker 13: be a father, how to be a great teammate, and

709
00:29:30,188 --> 00:29:32,108
Speaker 13: how to be one of the best players in the

710
00:29:32,188 --> 00:29:35,468
Speaker 13: National Football League. It's been the perfect combination of everything.

711
00:29:35,588 --> 00:29:38,428
Speaker 13: And I know that this won't be the end of

712
00:29:38,428 --> 00:29:40,468
Speaker 13: our relationship, but we will be able to continue to

713
00:29:40,508 --> 00:29:42,548
Speaker 13: grow and it'll be exciting to see him do his

714
00:29:42,588 --> 00:29:43,148
Speaker 13: thing out there.

715
00:29:46,468 --> 00:29:48,308
Speaker 4: Okay, guys, wipe the tears away.

716
00:29:48,308 --> 00:29:50,828
Speaker 3: What is the one word that describes your feelings on

717
00:29:50,908 --> 00:29:52,148
Speaker 3: Cooper Cup's departure?

718
00:29:52,348 --> 00:29:53,268
Speaker 4: Justin kick this thing up.

719
00:29:53,548 --> 00:29:55,988
Speaker 6: I know we're trying to be emotional, but I'm going business.

720
00:29:56,188 --> 00:29:58,668
Speaker 6: This is a business. This is the NFL. I had

721
00:29:58,708 --> 00:30:00,908
Speaker 6: a chance to talk to Sean McVay down at owners

722
00:30:00,988 --> 00:30:02,868
Speaker 6: meetings and he said, look, I came in with Cooper

723
00:30:02,868 --> 00:30:06,908
Speaker 6: Coup twenty seventeen, both young guys starting out in this business.

724
00:30:07,068 --> 00:30:09,508
Speaker 6: He wins a triple crown, he wins the Super Bowl.

725
00:30:09,828 --> 00:30:11,908
Speaker 6: Every dog will have his day and here's time for

726
00:30:11,988 --> 00:30:13,948
Speaker 6: him to move on. This is a business. I don't

727
00:30:13,948 --> 00:30:16,108
Speaker 6: care how much you love someone. Everyone wants to get

728
00:30:16,148 --> 00:30:18,508
Speaker 6: paid for going out there and playing football. And unfortunately

729
00:30:18,508 --> 00:30:21,028
Speaker 6: we saw Pooka there. Pokah's playing the exact same position

730
00:30:21,068 --> 00:30:23,788
Speaker 6: as Cooper Cup. They go out get DeVonta Adams. It's

731
00:30:23,908 --> 00:30:26,508
Speaker 6: the nature of trying to win Super Bowls and Sean

732
00:30:26,588 --> 00:30:28,708
Speaker 6: McVay will put no one in front of that. And

733
00:30:28,708 --> 00:30:30,348
Speaker 6: that's why this is a business. And it's just a

734
00:30:30,388 --> 00:30:32,628
Speaker 6: reminder follow the money. It tells the story.

735
00:30:32,988 --> 00:30:35,188
Speaker 8: Yeah, you might be following the money, but I'm go ahead,

736
00:30:35,228 --> 00:30:38,388
Speaker 8: go ahead and follow the respect. The fact that they

737
00:30:38,428 --> 00:30:41,588
Speaker 8: are holding this man in such high regard, to me

738
00:30:41,868 --> 00:30:44,148
Speaker 8: is just the ultimate tip of the hat, the ultimate

739
00:30:44,188 --> 00:30:47,388
Speaker 8: show respect. This is not how you transition from one

740
00:30:47,388 --> 00:30:48,148
Speaker 8: team to the next.

741
00:30:48,148 --> 00:30:50,668
Speaker 5: When you watch that video, all you see.

742
00:30:50,548 --> 00:30:54,548
Speaker 8: Is respect from coaches to former players at Whitworth being there,

743
00:30:54,748 --> 00:30:58,068
Speaker 8: to the Obficely, the quarterback, to the Pookin Nakua, the

744
00:30:58,108 --> 00:31:01,308
Speaker 8: guy who is ultimately the reason why he's moving along

745
00:31:01,348 --> 00:31:04,148
Speaker 8: to another team because Pokin Nakua is the next man up.

746
00:31:04,668 --> 00:31:07,708
Speaker 8: They've shown so much respect to Cooper cup In and

747
00:31:07,908 --> 00:31:10,588
Speaker 8: what he's done for this organization, how he's built up

748
00:31:10,628 --> 00:31:14,468
Speaker 8: that position. I know coach Yards, the receivers coaches is

749
00:31:14,468 --> 00:31:16,228
Speaker 8: in the fields right now as well, because he's done

750
00:31:16,228 --> 00:31:18,228
Speaker 8: a heck of a job with that unit. But just

751
00:31:18,428 --> 00:31:20,748
Speaker 8: huge respect to how they're allowing him to go out,

752
00:31:20,788 --> 00:31:22,748
Speaker 8: allowing him to still work out with the team and

753
00:31:22,788 --> 00:31:25,548
Speaker 8: knowing that he's just going home to wrap up his career.

754
00:31:27,588 --> 00:31:30,108
Speaker 1: Yeah, I have to say, watching the video, it's very

755
00:31:30,228 --> 00:31:33,188
Speaker 1: charming to me that they got the boys together for

756
00:31:33,268 --> 00:31:35,828
Speaker 1: one last bro session and one last lift and just

757
00:31:35,828 --> 00:31:38,788
Speaker 1: to hug it out like it's very relatable on a

758
00:31:38,828 --> 00:31:41,948
Speaker 1: small scale, like one last poker game before you know

759
00:31:41,988 --> 00:31:43,908
Speaker 1: you're never going to be the same friends again or

760
00:31:43,948 --> 00:31:44,588
Speaker 1: something like that.

761
00:31:44,788 --> 00:31:46,508
Speaker 5: So I mean, just have a legend like that.

762
00:31:46,748 --> 00:31:49,508
Speaker 1: Cooper Cup is an all time RAM and he's an

763
00:31:49,548 --> 00:31:52,228
Speaker 1: all time RAMS receiver for an organization that has had

764
00:31:52,268 --> 00:31:56,628
Speaker 1: some incredible wide receivers. Listen, we cannot overlook the idea

765
00:31:56,668 --> 00:31:58,788
Speaker 1: of what he did in the twenty twenty one season.

766
00:31:59,148 --> 00:32:04,228
Speaker 1: He had one hundred and forty five catchuds. It's unbelievable,

767
00:32:04,628 --> 00:32:10,388
Speaker 1: sixteen touchdowns, nineteen hundred plus yards. And it's not just

768
00:32:10,388 --> 00:32:13,628
Speaker 1: that he's a good player. It's like Cooper Cup represents something.

769
00:32:14,148 --> 00:32:17,708
Speaker 1: Cooper Cup is for every kid out there who thinks

770
00:32:17,748 --> 00:32:20,188
Speaker 1: they can make the NFL and maybe they're not Calvin

771
00:32:20,268 --> 00:32:21,228
Speaker 1: Johnson physically.

772
00:32:21,508 --> 00:32:22,028
Speaker 5: This is a.

773
00:32:22,148 --> 00:32:26,908
Speaker 1: Third round pick out of Eastern Washington. It says something

774
00:32:26,948 --> 00:32:29,788
Speaker 1: about dreams, that says something about the NFL draft that

775
00:32:29,868 --> 00:32:32,388
Speaker 1: you pay attention to those third round picks because they

776
00:32:32,428 --> 00:32:33,708
Speaker 1: could end up being legends.

777
00:32:33,708 --> 00:32:35,268
Speaker 5: They could end up being Hall of famers.

778
00:32:35,668 --> 00:32:39,108
Speaker 1: That third round pick out of Eastern Washington was eating

779
00:32:39,228 --> 00:32:42,548
Speaker 1: secondaries alive. Whenever he felt like it. He was an

780
00:32:42,668 --> 00:32:46,788
Speaker 1: unstoppable player. And business is business, and he's got to leave,

781
00:32:46,828 --> 00:32:50,188
Speaker 1: and I get that, But I just an all time RAM,

782
00:32:50,228 --> 00:32:53,588
Speaker 1: an all time twenty first century wide receiver, just a

783
00:32:53,588 --> 00:32:56,148
Speaker 1: fantastic player who gives a lot of kids dreams and

784
00:32:56,188 --> 00:32:57,708
Speaker 1: a lot of players things to aim for.

785
00:32:57,828 --> 00:32:59,748
Speaker 5: So I miss him. I think that's an absolute legend.

786
00:32:59,828 --> 00:33:01,548
Speaker 1: I hope he goes and has one hundred catches for

787
00:33:01,588 --> 00:33:02,508
Speaker 1: the Seahawks this year.

788
00:33:02,628 --> 00:33:04,348
Speaker 5: But he's an all time RAM and I miss him already.

789
00:33:04,668 --> 00:33:05,868
Speaker 4: I'm going watching the video.

790
00:33:05,948 --> 00:33:09,588
Speaker 3: I'm going bittersweet with the little crying emoji. When you

791
00:33:09,628 --> 00:33:12,788
Speaker 3: talk to these guys, almost any player, any player, when

792
00:33:12,828 --> 00:33:15,148
Speaker 3: you ask them when they're done playing, what they're going

793
00:33:15,228 --> 00:33:17,788
Speaker 3: to miss the most. I've never heard anyone say the

794
00:33:17,868 --> 00:33:21,308
Speaker 3: game on Sunday. Everyone always says the time I spent

795
00:33:21,308 --> 00:33:22,868
Speaker 3: in the locker room. I swear to God, Like right,

796
00:33:22,868 --> 00:33:25,308
Speaker 3: it feels like across the board, guys always say what

797
00:33:25,348 --> 00:33:26,748
Speaker 3: I'm going to miss the most is being with the

798
00:33:26,788 --> 00:33:29,268
Speaker 3: guys in the locker room because and you know that

799
00:33:29,348 --> 00:33:31,508
Speaker 3: once you trade you it's not the same, right, Like

800
00:33:31,788 --> 00:33:34,348
Speaker 3: you've got different pockets of friends in different cities.

801
00:33:34,388 --> 00:33:34,948
Speaker 4: And teams.

802
00:33:35,028 --> 00:33:37,548
Speaker 3: But when you have something special the way he did,

803
00:33:38,068 --> 00:33:39,548
Speaker 3: it won't be the same in that way. And yes

804
00:33:39,588 --> 00:33:41,148
Speaker 3: he will suit up on Sundays, and yes he will

805
00:33:41,188 --> 00:33:43,028
Speaker 3: still play, and yes he can still find success in

806
00:33:43,068 --> 00:33:45,188
Speaker 3: all those things, but that group that you saw there,

807
00:33:45,268 --> 00:33:47,388
Speaker 3: that part will not be the same. And I think

808
00:33:47,628 --> 00:33:49,268
Speaker 3: as I was watching that video, that was what was

809
00:33:49,308 --> 00:33:51,748
Speaker 3: going through my mind. Is that you constantly hear guys

810
00:33:51,748 --> 00:33:54,228
Speaker 3: say and it's not even like what's.

811
00:33:53,668 --> 00:33:55,228
Speaker 4: Your most favorite one memory?

812
00:33:55,388 --> 00:33:57,308
Speaker 3: Someone will say the super Bowl, or someone might say

813
00:33:57,308 --> 00:33:58,588
Speaker 3: this game where I broke this record.

814
00:33:58,628 --> 00:33:59,828
Speaker 4: But when you say what are you going to miss

815
00:33:59,868 --> 00:34:00,228
Speaker 4: the most.

816
00:34:00,108 --> 00:34:02,348
Speaker 3: About the game, guys always say that it's the time

817
00:34:02,388 --> 00:34:03,908
Speaker 3: spent with those guys in the locker room. So that's

818
00:34:03,908 --> 00:34:06,108
Speaker 3: what I was thinking as I was watching that video.

819
00:34:06,148 --> 00:34:07,708
Speaker 3: And you don't see that. I don't think I've ever

820
00:34:07,708 --> 00:34:09,308
Speaker 3: seen that before where they put out like this video

821
00:34:09,348 --> 00:34:12,188
Speaker 3: where you guys get one last workout, and so justin

822
00:34:12,388 --> 00:34:15,228
Speaker 3: I was really surprised, cutthroat right out of the gate

823
00:34:15,268 --> 00:34:18,188
Speaker 3: on that one. Just business like, Hey, it's what the

824
00:34:18,228 --> 00:34:19,148
Speaker 3: suit says.

825
00:34:19,348 --> 00:34:21,308
Speaker 4: I mean, we should have known the business.

826
00:34:21,828 --> 00:34:23,828
Speaker 5: This happened to me when I left the New York giants.

827
00:34:23,868 --> 00:34:25,828
Speaker 6: You think you're going to go somewhere, you're on scholarship

828
00:34:25,868 --> 00:34:28,148
Speaker 6: in college, you get drafted somewhere, and then the business

829
00:34:28,148 --> 00:34:31,028
Speaker 6: of football kicks in. The salary cat takes over and

830
00:34:31,068 --> 00:34:33,748
Speaker 6: they're like, hey, you value yourself here and this is

831
00:34:33,788 --> 00:34:36,268
Speaker 6: where the team values you. So for me, I think

832
00:34:36,548 --> 00:34:38,108
Speaker 6: if we can get down to the baseline of the

833
00:34:38,148 --> 00:34:40,348
Speaker 6: money tells the story, It's like, let's get over our.

834
00:34:40,228 --> 00:34:41,588
Speaker 5: Feelings, let's go play football.

835
00:34:41,748 --> 00:34:43,948
Speaker 6: He's gonna have two times each year to go prove

836
00:34:44,028 --> 00:34:46,028
Speaker 6: the rams direct and he probably will.

837
00:34:46,188 --> 00:34:46,788
Speaker 4: Yeah, no problem.

838
00:34:47,028 --> 00:34:49,388
Speaker 3: Segments about emotion, maybe we don't do those when Justin's

839
00:34:49,428 --> 00:34:50,068
Speaker 3: on set with us.

840
00:34:50,108 --> 00:34:50,548
Speaker 4: No problem.

841
00:34:50,908 --> 00:34:54,388
Speaker 3: The Lions Aiden Hutchinson broke his leg during Detroit's Week

842
00:34:54,508 --> 00:34:58,308
Speaker 3: six matchup with the Cowboys, ending the star season prematurely.

843
00:34:58,468 --> 00:35:01,828
Speaker 3: Hutchinson posted some video of the progress he has made

844
00:35:01,868 --> 00:35:04,908
Speaker 3: on Instagram recently as a source of motivation for the

845
00:35:04,988 --> 00:35:07,908
Speaker 3: upcoming season. You see him running there, what is one

846
00:35:07,988 --> 00:35:13,108
Speaker 3: word that described your feelings? Scene Hutchinson running Justin for redemption?

847
00:35:13,228 --> 00:35:16,668
Speaker 6: Let's go, Well, am I gonna get emotional here? Not

848
00:35:16,788 --> 00:35:20,428
Speaker 6: too emotional? He is moving. To see a big man

849
00:35:20,588 --> 00:35:23,308
Speaker 6: moving at that speed. If you listen to the audio.

850
00:35:23,388 --> 00:35:25,948
Speaker 6: You hear him trucking and getting after it. He's working

851
00:35:25,988 --> 00:35:28,468
Speaker 6: out with Brett Fisher, one of the best pts in football,

852
00:35:28,508 --> 00:35:30,508
Speaker 6: had him in Arizona, had his own facility.

853
00:35:30,588 --> 00:35:31,828
Speaker 5: Hutchinson was trying to.

854
00:35:31,708 --> 00:35:33,668
Speaker 6: Make a comeback for when he came back for the

855
00:35:33,708 --> 00:35:36,668
Speaker 6: Super Bowl. He is going to be rare to go. Yeah,

856
00:35:36,708 --> 00:35:38,228
Speaker 6: you can hear him right there. It's like when you

857
00:35:38,228 --> 00:35:41,068
Speaker 6: watch Serena play tennis. You can like hear the violence.

858
00:35:42,028 --> 00:35:44,588
Speaker 6: He's coming back with vengeance. He's going to have a

859
00:35:46,108 --> 00:35:48,068
Speaker 6: time to get after it. He had led the league

860
00:35:48,108 --> 00:35:50,108
Speaker 6: and tackles for losses and sacks before he went down.

861
00:35:50,308 --> 00:35:51,668
Speaker 6: Excited to see him get back out there.

862
00:35:51,668 --> 00:35:53,748
Speaker 1: I got I'm going to go for this one. If

863
00:35:53,748 --> 00:35:56,908
Speaker 1: you know, you know, I got vibranium. Like that guy

864
00:35:56,988 --> 00:35:59,108
Speaker 1: is made of something different. I know we saw him

865
00:35:59,108 --> 00:36:01,468
Speaker 1: break and it was absolutely just crushing to watch as

866
00:36:01,468 --> 00:36:03,628
Speaker 1: a fan. But the physicality of him running and on

867
00:36:03,708 --> 00:36:06,468
Speaker 1: that repaired and everything he's gonna do this year. I

868
00:36:06,508 --> 00:36:09,068
Speaker 1: have vibranium. It comes from Wakanda. You can tell me

869
00:36:09,628 --> 00:36:11,108
Speaker 1: Isaiya if you feel like it's the right thing. I

870
00:36:11,108 --> 00:36:13,388
Speaker 1: feel like a Hutchinson as a guy who is going

871
00:36:13,428 --> 00:36:15,388
Speaker 1: to the cookout. I think also has the vibrainium, and

872
00:36:15,428 --> 00:36:16,308
Speaker 1: I'm excited to see it.

873
00:36:16,468 --> 00:36:18,668
Speaker 8: I'm thinking might be the first white dude from Wakanda,

874
00:36:18,708 --> 00:36:19,308
Speaker 8: but I'll take it.

875
00:36:21,548 --> 00:36:24,828
Speaker 5: I'm going with his favorite word, ahwesome.

876
00:36:25,468 --> 00:36:27,668
Speaker 8: And the reason why I'm saying awesome because I have

877
00:36:27,788 --> 00:36:30,148
Speaker 8: been there before, not necessarily with a broken leg, but

878
00:36:30,228 --> 00:36:33,748
Speaker 8: I've had seven surgeries during my time playing in the

879
00:36:33,828 --> 00:36:36,428
Speaker 8: league and in college, and I know the mental fortitude

880
00:36:36,468 --> 00:36:38,068
Speaker 8: that you have to have in order to come back

881
00:36:38,068 --> 00:36:41,388
Speaker 8: from these injuries. You are trying to prove yourself wrong

882
00:36:41,428 --> 00:36:43,588
Speaker 8: more than you're trying to prove everybody else wrong. And

883
00:36:43,628 --> 00:36:46,948
Speaker 8: I know that that sensation that you get when you're

884
00:36:46,948 --> 00:36:48,908
Speaker 8: out there running for the first time, or you start

885
00:36:48,988 --> 00:36:52,308
Speaker 8: seeing seeing little tidbits of what your former self used

886
00:36:52,308 --> 00:36:55,708
Speaker 8: to be. You get excited. You were overcome so much

887
00:36:55,708 --> 00:36:57,668
Speaker 8: with the injury. It was a traumatic injury, and now

888
00:36:57,708 --> 00:36:59,908
Speaker 8: you're working every single day just to get back to

889
00:36:59,988 --> 00:37:02,428
Speaker 8: who you were and hope that you can surpass that.

890
00:37:02,548 --> 00:37:04,148
Speaker 8: So I think it's awesome that he's back on the

891
00:37:04,148 --> 00:37:06,468
Speaker 8: field moving because I know that he's a later right

892
00:37:06,508 --> 00:37:07,228
Speaker 8: now in his heart.

893
00:37:07,308 --> 00:37:09,908
Speaker 3: You know what I see, and he's see destruction for

894
00:37:09,988 --> 00:37:11,828
Speaker 3: everyone else in the league. I see this guy running

895
00:37:11,868 --> 00:37:13,908
Speaker 3: and I feel like he is just going to get

896
00:37:13,948 --> 00:37:17,148
Speaker 3: after it and just destroy everyone in his path.

897
00:37:17,308 --> 00:37:23,148
Speaker 5: Next season, Justin Pugh straight off the couch. We're here

898
00:37:23,188 --> 00:37:23,828
Speaker 5: with Justin Pugh.

899
00:37:23,908 --> 00:37:25,148
Speaker 1: This is the guy who played a long time in

900
00:37:25,148 --> 00:37:26,868
Speaker 1: the league, first round pick of the Giants. But that

901
00:37:26,908 --> 00:37:29,428
Speaker 1: clip we just saw of you was from twenty twenty three,

902
00:37:29,668 --> 00:37:31,908
Speaker 1: very very recent, and everybody got a laugh out of

903
00:37:31,908 --> 00:37:33,788
Speaker 1: it because they like when they change up your intros

904
00:37:33,828 --> 00:37:35,828
Speaker 1: and everything. But there might have been a little bit

905
00:37:35,828 --> 00:37:38,028
Speaker 1: more going on. And for those who remember that and

906
00:37:38,028 --> 00:37:40,068
Speaker 1: those who don't, tell us the story of Peugh, what

907
00:37:40,108 --> 00:37:40,828
Speaker 1: you were doing there.

908
00:37:40,868 --> 00:37:42,588
Speaker 5: So I started my career with the New York Giants.

909
00:37:42,788 --> 00:37:44,628
Speaker 6: First five years I talked about the business, went to

910
00:37:44,668 --> 00:37:47,228
Speaker 6: the Arizona Cardinals, and as my career was coming to

911
00:37:47,268 --> 00:37:49,588
Speaker 6: an end, I tore my ACL in week ten.

912
00:37:49,668 --> 00:37:50,148
Speaker 5: Of the season.

913
00:37:50,188 --> 00:37:52,348
Speaker 6: Before twenty twenty two, I was like, I need to

914
00:37:52,348 --> 00:37:54,348
Speaker 6: get back to New York. I want to get involved

915
00:37:54,388 --> 00:37:56,828
Speaker 6: in finance and real estate. What's a better place to

916
00:37:56,868 --> 00:37:58,668
Speaker 6: go than the New York Giants. So I had hatched

917
00:37:58,668 --> 00:38:00,548
Speaker 6: this scheme to get back on the New York Giants.

918
00:38:00,708 --> 00:38:03,548
Speaker 6: They're in Arizona playing the Cardinals. Their left guard gets

919
00:38:03,588 --> 00:38:06,188
Speaker 6: hurt and down the street from the facility, I go

920
00:38:06,228 --> 00:38:09,188
Speaker 6: work out for the Giants. They say, hey, Justin, we

921
00:38:09,228 --> 00:38:10,868
Speaker 6: want to bring you back on the team. And I said,

922
00:38:10,868 --> 00:38:13,428
Speaker 6: I don't a couple of things. I'm not playing tackle.

923
00:38:13,468 --> 00:38:15,348
Speaker 6: I only want to play left guard. I want to

924
00:38:15,348 --> 00:38:17,668
Speaker 6: get a couple weeks to ramp up. As we're getting

925
00:38:17,668 --> 00:38:19,628
Speaker 6: ready to play in that first game, I resigned to

926
00:38:19,668 --> 00:38:23,148
Speaker 6: New York Giants. I'm doing my I'm doing internships every Tuesday,

927
00:38:23,428 --> 00:38:25,188
Speaker 6: and I'm like, we need you to play this weekend.

928
00:38:25,308 --> 00:38:25,468
Speaker 1: Justin.

929
00:38:25,548 --> 00:38:27,108
Speaker 6: Joe Shane gives me a call say hey, Justin, we

930
00:38:27,108 --> 00:38:28,388
Speaker 6: need you to play this week. I know you've been

931
00:38:28,388 --> 00:38:30,708
Speaker 6: here three days. We're playing the Buffalo Bills. You're gonna

932
00:38:30,708 --> 00:38:33,468
Speaker 6: play left guard. It's like riding a bike. Four plays

933
00:38:33,508 --> 00:38:35,788
Speaker 6: into the game, the left tackle gets hurt. He says, Justin,

934
00:38:35,908 --> 00:38:38,508
Speaker 6: I know you haven't played in eight years at left tackle.

935
00:38:38,548 --> 00:38:39,588
Speaker 6: I need you to go out there, and I need

936
00:38:39,588 --> 00:38:42,468
Speaker 6: you to block Von Miller so well and behold, I

937
00:38:42,468 --> 00:38:43,988
Speaker 6: didn't know I was going to go out to left

938
00:38:43,988 --> 00:38:46,908
Speaker 6: tackle and have to do that. But when we're arriving

939
00:38:46,948 --> 00:38:49,348
Speaker 6: on the bus. We do our Sunday night intros. If

940
00:38:49,388 --> 00:38:51,228
Speaker 6: you're a player that just gets signed right at the

941
00:38:51,228 --> 00:38:54,628
Speaker 6: hotel before. And I wasn't coming from Syracuse, I wasn't

942
00:38:54,628 --> 00:38:56,988
Speaker 6: coming from any practice. I hadn't put pads on since

943
00:38:57,028 --> 00:39:00,308
Speaker 6: Terry my ACL a year previously. My first contact was

944
00:39:00,348 --> 00:39:03,268
Speaker 6: pregame against the defensive lineman, and I'm pretty sure I

945
00:39:03,308 --> 00:39:04,068
Speaker 6: got a little bit.

946
00:39:03,988 --> 00:39:05,428
Speaker 5: Of a buzz upstairs.

947
00:39:05,788 --> 00:39:08,028
Speaker 6: So I said, straight off the couch, fitting lee, because

948
00:39:08,028 --> 00:39:10,828
Speaker 6: I literally was on a couch the week before, and

949
00:39:10,828 --> 00:39:12,908
Speaker 6: then I was starting on Sunday Night football. So everyone

950
00:39:12,948 --> 00:39:16,308
Speaker 6: out there, it's not that it's impossible for you to

951
00:39:16,348 --> 00:39:18,308
Speaker 6: go from sitting on the couch to starting on.

952
00:39:18,228 --> 00:39:19,908
Speaker 5: Sunday Night football. But it was all part of a

953
00:39:19,948 --> 00:39:21,268
Speaker 5: master plan. I love it.

954
00:39:21,468 --> 00:39:23,348
Speaker 1: Let me jump in here with the follow up, so

955
00:39:23,588 --> 00:39:26,348
Speaker 1: I hope this answer this is not dreadful. How did

956
00:39:26,388 --> 00:39:28,508
Speaker 1: it go against Vaughan when you were off the left tackle?

957
00:39:29,228 --> 00:39:29,868
Speaker 5: It went well.

958
00:39:29,908 --> 00:39:31,708
Speaker 6: Now I didn't know the You know, when you're on

959
00:39:31,748 --> 00:39:34,348
Speaker 6: the road, everything's on silent cadence, so everything's based off

960
00:39:34,428 --> 00:39:35,148
Speaker 6: the center's head.

961
00:39:35,308 --> 00:39:37,188
Speaker 5: Is Bob that takes timing.

962
00:39:37,428 --> 00:39:39,748
Speaker 6: When you're at left tackle, you're looking in at the center,

963
00:39:39,988 --> 00:39:41,628
Speaker 6: and as soon as he goes to lift his head,

964
00:39:41,708 --> 00:39:44,268
Speaker 6: you set and that's how you know the play is coming. Now,

965
00:39:44,268 --> 00:39:45,948
Speaker 6: it was a little bit rough to start. You say,

966
00:39:45,948 --> 00:39:48,108
Speaker 6: straight off the couch, and then you have lit up

967
00:39:48,108 --> 00:39:50,148
Speaker 6: a sack. You have two false starts in a row.

968
00:39:50,428 --> 00:39:52,028
Speaker 6: Get out of your stead. Then I ended up we

969
00:39:52,028 --> 00:39:55,028
Speaker 6: almost came back and won that game with Tyrod Taylor. Yeah,

970
00:39:55,068 --> 00:39:57,308
Speaker 6: and the fans loved it after Hey, straight off the

971
00:39:57,308 --> 00:39:58,788
Speaker 6: couch and then you went out there and almost led

972
00:39:58,828 --> 00:40:00,588
Speaker 6: us to victory. I actually ended up grading out as

973
00:40:00,588 --> 00:40:03,668
Speaker 6: our best offensive lineman that week. The next day, I'm

974
00:40:03,948 --> 00:40:06,068
Speaker 6: negot eating my contract with Joe Shane. He's like, I

975
00:40:06,148 --> 00:40:10,748
Speaker 6: never had to negotiate with a practice squad offensive lineman. Hey,

976
00:40:10,828 --> 00:40:12,908
Speaker 6: Jeffy a first ball, shout out different times for all

977
00:40:12,948 --> 00:40:13,948
Speaker 6: of us, shout out.

978
00:40:13,788 --> 00:40:16,428
Speaker 8: To you, because that's almost impossible to do. So obviously

979
00:40:16,508 --> 00:40:18,588
Speaker 8: kudos on that, but it helped the people real quick

980
00:40:18,668 --> 00:40:21,628
Speaker 8: understand the difference between playing guard and play a left tackle.

981
00:40:21,668 --> 00:40:24,348
Speaker 5: What's the island like twenty seconds.

982
00:40:23,988 --> 00:40:27,548
Speaker 6: It's like playing defense against Alan Iverson. When you're out

983
00:40:27,548 --> 00:40:29,828
Speaker 6: there at tackle, you're going against the best defensive line

984
00:40:29,868 --> 00:40:32,188
Speaker 6: in the NFL. Guard is more like a car crash.

985
00:40:32,188 --> 00:40:33,788
Speaker 6: You're hitting those guys. You're in a phone boost, so

986
00:40:33,828 --> 00:40:35,148
Speaker 6: that's kind of the difference in space.

987
00:40:35,428 --> 00:40:37,188
Speaker 5: Wow, incredible, I love that.

988
00:40:37,508 --> 00:40:37,588
Speaker 3: Right.

989
00:40:37,668 --> 00:40:38,988
Speaker 5: Have to couch the GMFP too.

990
00:40:39,188 --> 00:40:40,908
Speaker 4: By the way, he can take the cues. You said

991
00:40:40,908 --> 00:40:42,788
Speaker 4: twenty seconds, he did it in like fifteen.

992
00:40:43,268 --> 00:40:45,708
Speaker 3: I mean that's broadcast. Do camfree, I mean, make those

993
00:40:45,708 --> 00:40:48,348
Speaker 3: adjustments quick. We're back more GMFF for this.

994
00:40:48,628 --> 00:40:49,068
Speaker 5: Wow.