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Speaker 1: I just saw this week in Fantastic called Fatal Affair

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Speaker 1: see Mrs Stephen Bishop, how you doing brother. Hey, man, Hey,

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Speaker 1: And foremost, I gotta tell you that intro, not the

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Speaker 1: Stephen A smith Man. Really yeah, Man, spread my wings

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Speaker 1: that's the creative producer to the show. I know him.

426
00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:28,240
Speaker 1: That's a good friend of mine. And so yeah, when

427
00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:31,399
Speaker 1: I'm watching this show, that the reason I asked because

428
00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:34,159
Speaker 1: maybe it's just edited, but it seems like a lot

429
00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:36,560
Speaker 1: of times some of the things that they've show kind

430
00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:38,480
Speaker 1: of caught you guys off guard. I you didn't know

431
00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:40,680
Speaker 1: it's going in that direction the T shirt. Can you

432
00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:43,080
Speaker 1: respond to that? Because I just really getting a sense

433
00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:46,680
Speaker 1: of you know, why are you doing the show? I

434
00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:48,960
Speaker 1: love the characters. I love your mama by the way,

435
00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:52,480
Speaker 1: I love your dad. I know what I mean. You know,

436
00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:56,040
Speaker 1: I know small so frat Bequie, I love her. I

437
00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:58,680
Speaker 1: love her all right, so you just stop tripping, dog,

438
00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:05,960
Speaker 1: you need to stop tripping George. Okay, okay. So for me,

439
00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:08,960
Speaker 1: it was like you know the reality TV where being

440
00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:12,360
Speaker 1: ex closed on the show. Know, for me, I never

441
00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:15,520
Speaker 1: really fell about being on the reality TV right but

442
00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:18,520
Speaker 1: when we was approached to the show about the Timback

443
00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:21,520
Speaker 1: group and about rule estate development, was like, okay, yes

444
00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:23,880
Speaker 1: we could do that. We can real estate, so why

445
00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:25,879
Speaker 1: not do on this show. There'll be great for what

446
00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:29,920
Speaker 1: we're trying to do within the community. Um. So yeah,

447
00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:33,000
Speaker 1: that's how it came apart in a court. My mom

448
00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:36,119
Speaker 1: she is this, she was she stuff gonna say. She

449
00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:41,639
Speaker 1: was just ready right right now. I never MEAs was

450
00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:44,359
Speaker 1: was it was the mom part of the planning for

451
00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:47,040
Speaker 1: the series or just happening to be developed as a

452
00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:50,399
Speaker 1: series went along, your mom moving into the house. It

453
00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:53,520
Speaker 1: just happens. It just happened. To be developed. So on

454
00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:56,080
Speaker 1: the show, you see me in my transition stage for

455
00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:57,880
Speaker 1: me to stay at home mom to get it into

456
00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:01,679
Speaker 1: commercial rule estate. So you had a plan though, according

457
00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:03,920
Speaker 1: to mam, so y'all had a plan though you you

458
00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:07,640
Speaker 1: you just the five year plan though, the five year plan,

459
00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:11,760
Speaker 1: right mare? Soo right, I don't know how many years

460
00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:14,560
Speaker 1: your plan is, but it's not about yes by five

461
00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:17,520
Speaker 1: by five she come rolling up there a little bit

462
00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:20,280
Speaker 1: shorter than five. That threw you off, didn't mars threw

463
00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:25,760
Speaker 1: you all? Brother well not to be computer the three yes, yes, yes, yes, yes,

464
00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:27,840
Speaker 1: And she came in there and she came in there

465
00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:29,680
Speaker 1: and I'm not trying to beat up man, so but

466
00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:31,760
Speaker 1: you know five and three is different though, you know,

467
00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:34,560
Speaker 1: you see I learned about you. You're a man, you

468
00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:36,480
Speaker 1: know you're you're a guy who don't write things down

469
00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:39,000
Speaker 1: in pencil with the racing. You write stuff down with

470
00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:45,480
Speaker 1: on eraceable real quick. Right, yep, that's me. I, Like

471
00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:47,600
Speaker 1: I said, I like to make decisions quick and I'm

472
00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:51,400
Speaker 1: resolute when I make them. So so the the T shirt.

473
00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:55,439
Speaker 1: So so why did you why did you? Why did

474
00:26:55,520 --> 00:27:00,840
Speaker 1: you change the plan? Though? Well, because a woman and

475
00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:03,480
Speaker 1: I see my husband's vision and I know the vision

476
00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:05,800
Speaker 1: of our company and I growth. And so when my

477
00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:09,720
Speaker 1: husband got into the general contract and feel and coal, okay,

478
00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:11,800
Speaker 1: I was like, it would be it will go hand

479
00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:14,120
Speaker 1: and hand for us to do this, you know, together.

480
00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:18,560
Speaker 1: So as I was learning more about commercial development, you

481
00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:21,280
Speaker 1: know the program that I'm I'm working on my second

482
00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:27,520
Speaker 1: masters right now, and it's an ATMs program. So I'm like,

483
00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:30,200
Speaker 1: I could go ahead, get into this program and then

484
00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:33,200
Speaker 1: by the end of the five year plan, I have

485
00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:35,600
Speaker 1: my degree and I'm ready to hit the ground running.

486
00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:39,000
Speaker 1: So well, you didn't hit the ground running now and

487
00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:42,440
Speaker 1: in the series, it kind of caught you off guard.

488
00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:44,480
Speaker 1: And I'm gonna just tell you this, the three real

489
00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:47,760
Speaker 1: I gotta be real. When when you said that, I

490
00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:51,280
Speaker 1: think you said something like, uh, just just just you

491
00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:54,159
Speaker 1: allowing her to do this, just to be happy. That

492
00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:59,480
Speaker 1: didn't come across really do on TV. And it didn't.

493
00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:02,440
Speaker 1: It made you. It made you look bad, my soul,

494
00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:05,080
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Really, it made you look

495
00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:07,400
Speaker 1: like you showing this herd up. It made you look souvinistic,

496
00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:10,399
Speaker 1: and it really took me aback because wow, he said that,

497
00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:15,000
Speaker 1: Because because because because your wife. She's beautiful, you know,

498
00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:18,119
Speaker 1: she's honest, she's loving, and and it looked like it.

499
00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:20,320
Speaker 1: So that's what I'm saying is that when you do

500
00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:24,560
Speaker 1: these shows, you know, because you're you're you're, you're on

501
00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:27,600
Speaker 1: this couple, you have an open communication and sometimes you

502
00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:30,439
Speaker 1: might joke around and make a statement, but then they

503
00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:33,639
Speaker 1: let's get captured on film that becomes part of the storyline.

504
00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:36,720
Speaker 1: Did that moment, how did that moment play back to

505
00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:39,360
Speaker 1: you guys when it aired? And did you have to

506
00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:45,640
Speaker 1: deal with any issues within the household when it aired? Um,

507
00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:49,120
Speaker 1: I can't say right now that that was not my

508
00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:52,719
Speaker 1: best moment, one of those times of things that uh,

509
00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:57,440
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, I don't. I don't regret I

510
00:28:57,560 --> 00:28:59,440
Speaker 1: think that much of my life because it's a great

511
00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:02,160
Speaker 1: learning is. But yeah, I would, I would. I wouldn't

512
00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:05,840
Speaker 1: do it again. And I've learned that that mistake. Um,

513
00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:09,040
Speaker 1: And the truth of the matter is, I mean, I

514
00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:12,680
Speaker 1: hate to say it, but yeah, I mean it's it's

515
00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:14,880
Speaker 1: just it was just a mistake on my part with

516
00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:17,440
Speaker 1: that with that, and I apologize to that. And I

517
00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:21,080
Speaker 1: think that a challenge with us because we're I know,

518
00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:24,160
Speaker 1: everyone says they're authentic but the challenge with us because

519
00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:30,240
Speaker 1: we're authentic and yeah, yeah, and we don't. We didn't

520
00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:33,880
Speaker 1: what blind signed it up and what blind sided me particularly.

521
00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:36,440
Speaker 1: I don't care about people talking about me, but what

522
00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:41,080
Speaker 1: blind side about me is how my jokes made my

523
00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:44,200
Speaker 1: wife look. And that's not something I mean. As as

524
00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:46,320
Speaker 1: much of a provider as I am, I'm also a

525
00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:49,239
Speaker 1: protector and I don't want to even if I come

526
00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:51,320
Speaker 1: around as being a jerk, I don't care, but I

527
00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:53,200
Speaker 1: don't want it to make it look like that she's

528
00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:55,680
Speaker 1: weak because she's not. I wouldn't even I'm not the

529
00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:57,440
Speaker 1: kind of guy that needs some marry a weak person

530
00:29:57,520 --> 00:30:01,680
Speaker 1: to seem strong. Not week Okay, but I knew you

531
00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:03,560
Speaker 1: were joking. I knew you were joking. I know that

532
00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:05,440
Speaker 1: I do television all my life, you know the last

533
00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:08,320
Speaker 1: nineteen nineteen names two, I've been doing television, and I

534
00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:10,720
Speaker 1: know how you can edit things. The teacher, you would

535
00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:13,280
Speaker 1: respond to that because I know that wasn't the case,

536
00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:15,920
Speaker 1: and it came across like he was a controlling he

537
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:19,680
Speaker 1: didn't care about your future and then didn't introduce your

538
00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:22,520
Speaker 1: worried about your vision. How did that affect you when

539
00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:29,000
Speaker 1: it aired? Yeah, it was because I know Martha personality.

540
00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:31,520
Speaker 1: I knew it was a joke, and I took conversation

541
00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:34,320
Speaker 1: with him, Hey, I know you're joking. Mostly most of

542
00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:36,840
Speaker 1: the time I'm laughing at all. But people looking on

543
00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:38,800
Speaker 1: it from the outside looking and I'm like, oh my god,

544
00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:41,760
Speaker 1: I can't believe you better. Oh my god. So and

545
00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:43,840
Speaker 1: They'm like, and she's not even gonna say anything that

546
00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:46,440
Speaker 1: to him. And that's why people love my mom so much,

547
00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:49,000
Speaker 1: because my mom was like, well I handled it, but

548
00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:50,760
Speaker 1: I'm like, I know my husband and I know it

549
00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:53,880
Speaker 1: was a joke. And also the whole me going back

550
00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:56,760
Speaker 1: to school to me um getting my real state degree.

551
00:30:56,880 --> 00:31:00,040
Speaker 1: That was something that we discussed, tried to eat and

552
00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:04,200
Speaker 1: feel it before the show came up to the part

553
00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:07,200
Speaker 1: of the plan. So when he said play your role baby,

554
00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:09,960
Speaker 1: all right now, he said you're doing it for fun,

555
00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:12,720
Speaker 1: I was like, you know what, myself whatever, And I

556
00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:17,480
Speaker 1: walked away from that because I'm like, whatever, dude, you

557
00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:19,480
Speaker 1: show did. When he said that, I went, oh, no,

558
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:22,640
Speaker 1: so no you didn't. This is on film. But you can't.

559
00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:25,400
Speaker 1: You can't pull this some back, brother, You can't pull

560
00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:28,120
Speaker 1: us some back. But but that that's but that's the

561
00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:30,880
Speaker 1: whole part of this whole process with with with knowing

562
00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:33,600
Speaker 1: that that can air like that, and then that later

563
00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:36,600
Speaker 1: on when when I think about Tale accused you of

564
00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:39,520
Speaker 1: having twenty women, which I thought was terrible, which I

565
00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:41,880
Speaker 1: thought was horrible. Just to throw something out there and

566
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:44,200
Speaker 1: then then your mother in law bring it back later on.

567
00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:47,160
Speaker 1: That's not why you guys did this show. But what

568
00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:49,160
Speaker 1: are the what are the benefits of doing this type

569
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:53,960
Speaker 1: of show so far? Well, that's not one I can

570
00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:58,560
Speaker 1: I can say that right now. Um you know, Um,

571
00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:03,760
Speaker 1: that's I'm gonna I'm gonna tell you a dealing story.

572
00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:07,600
Speaker 1: We I'm doing a business deal with a gentleman and

573
00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:10,720
Speaker 1: and I was doing in the in the midst of

574
00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:14,840
Speaker 1: speaking with one of the owners. They uh, I'm sitting

575
00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:16,600
Speaker 1: there talking. He said, hey, let me tell you something,

576
00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:19,640
Speaker 1: and he pulls out the telephone and he shows where

577
00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:23,960
Speaker 1: he was inquiring about our company. And that person said, well,

578
00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:26,080
Speaker 1: I don't know them, great, but I just did some

579
00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:28,440
Speaker 1: research and this is what I found. And the person

580
00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:30,880
Speaker 1: sent that to the person I'm doing business with. And

581
00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:33,880
Speaker 1: the first thing he said is Marcel Scott infidelity. And

582
00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:36,080
Speaker 1: I can tell you right now if I'm sitting in

583
00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:38,880
Speaker 1: his chair and I'm looking to do business with someone.

584
00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:44,200
Speaker 1: I don't want uh integrity related issues to be the

585
00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:46,920
Speaker 1: primary focus that can I trust this guy, you know?

586
00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:51,040
Speaker 1: And so that right there was definitely unexpected. Now we

587
00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:53,240
Speaker 1: ended up winning. He said, listen, I'm more concerned with

588
00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:56,360
Speaker 1: you as a person, not necessarily you as the actor.

589
00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:59,280
Speaker 1: But I want to make sure that when Marcel's got

590
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:01,720
Speaker 1: with the name so Scott has written, you know, and

591
00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:05,360
Speaker 1: then you know, when I'm no longer here, that what

592
00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:08,800
Speaker 1: I've done and who I am actually get designed through.

593
00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:10,960
Speaker 1: And so that was definitely a blind side for me.

594
00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:14,120
Speaker 1: And to be very clear, that was not that, that's

595
00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:17,320
Speaker 1: not the reason why we got on it. And along

596
00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:20,200
Speaker 1: that same path, that's not something I couldn't. I couldn't

597
00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:23,719
Speaker 1: continue along that because that's not even reality. That's just right,

598
00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:26,320
Speaker 1: that's not fair. That's not fair, you know. And then

599
00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:28,920
Speaker 1: but that's why my opening question was why are you

600
00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:31,840
Speaker 1: guys doing this show? Because I saw an authentic couple.

601
00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:34,720
Speaker 1: I saw a loving couple. I saw a strong black woman.

602
00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:37,600
Speaker 1: I saw a strong black man. I remember make a

603
00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:39,600
Speaker 1: Side five fraternity, so I know you're strong. You get

604
00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:42,640
Speaker 1: ups with that along okay, but when you when you

605
00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:45,760
Speaker 1: get tossed into these storylines and these editors in the room,

606
00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:48,840
Speaker 1: they can shape stories to go not the direction that

607
00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:51,520
Speaker 1: you wanted to go. But the beauty of this series

608
00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:54,560
Speaker 1: with you two is I love the way I'm seeing

609
00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:59,400
Speaker 1: you coming out of this cocoon the teacher, and I

610
00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:03,960
Speaker 1: think that's in portant because the fastest growing entrepreneurs in

611
00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:09,439
Speaker 1: America are black females, and so you are playing such

612
00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:13,600
Speaker 1: a tremendous role and showing that it's possible even in

613
00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:17,720
Speaker 1: the Huntsville, Alabama there are opportunities. So do you understand

614
00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:20,200
Speaker 1: that you You may know this already, I don't understand

615
00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:22,759
Speaker 1: anything crazy, But do you understand that you are a

616
00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:26,200
Speaker 1: role Mardel, how powerful you are presenting yourself to to

617
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:32,239
Speaker 1: to African American women. Um, you know, I didn't look

618
00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:35,839
Speaker 1: at it that way, and wow, none did you say

619
00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:40,520
Speaker 1: that there's definitely something to consider going forward. Um, but

620
00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:43,640
Speaker 1: it's just I just want to show that, yes, you

621
00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:47,799
Speaker 1: can have a powerful marriage and also run a successful

622
00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:52,040
Speaker 1: business while raising amazing kids. That is my overall goal.

623
00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:56,479
Speaker 1: I don't want to be a successful businesswoman but move

624
00:34:56,600 --> 00:35:00,560
Speaker 1: my husband, you know, in the process. So that example

625
00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:02,520
Speaker 1: I want to put out there. I know there's so

626
00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:04,520
Speaker 1: many ladies now they want to be you know, a

627
00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:07,839
Speaker 1: box on box. I'm seeing I'm running things, and I'm like, hey,

628
00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:10,680
Speaker 1: it's okay. So let your man really be the lead

629
00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:13,440
Speaker 1: in the head in your family and you have your

630
00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:17,120
Speaker 1: role as the wife in his help mate. My visions

631
00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:19,480
Speaker 1: for all of this was when I pray about you

632
00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:21,919
Speaker 1: know where I'm going and where I'm hitting in life,

633
00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:26,320
Speaker 1: God is putting on my heart. Then listen, your husband.

634
00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:28,920
Speaker 1: You're gonna help him along the path. You know you're

635
00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:31,440
Speaker 1: gonna be there to support him and help him along

636
00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:34,040
Speaker 1: this way. You also, you're gonna have your wrong You're

637
00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:37,720
Speaker 1: gonna do your thing. But my husband is my leader,

638
00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:40,960
Speaker 1: and I you know, I followed behind, I follow under him,

639
00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:43,400
Speaker 1: and he has lent me to such a great successful

640
00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:46,960
Speaker 1: life so far. So as long as you have that leader,

641
00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:49,680
Speaker 1: the one that you want to leave, and he's seventy

642
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:53,480
Speaker 1: example for your family, why not follow something like that? Well,

643
00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:55,560
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not disagreeing with you. I'm not disagree

644
00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:57,560
Speaker 1: with you. I think this outstanding. That's why I brought

645
00:35:57,600 --> 00:35:59,760
Speaker 1: your own on the show. Because first I'm on fans

646
00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:03,080
Speaker 1: and that's why sometimes you know, I'm successful and I've

647
00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:04,560
Speaker 1: done a lot of great things in my life, and

648
00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:08,520
Speaker 1: sometimes and I feel deemed YouTube is very successful. And

649
00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:11,160
Speaker 1: I just wanted to make that statement about you because

650
00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:14,520
Speaker 1: so many moms are trapped at home or don't know

651
00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:17,480
Speaker 1: how to follow their dreams. I don't know other options.

652
00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:20,880
Speaker 1: And to watch you do it on national TV and

653
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:23,200
Speaker 1: allow it to be outlined in this story, I think

654
00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:25,480
Speaker 1: it's really incredible. And I wanted to make sure if

655
00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:29,120
Speaker 1: you didn't know, now you know, okay, and and that's

656
00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:31,359
Speaker 1: that's a blessing, you know. I want to say something

657
00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:34,840
Speaker 1: on that real quick. When he's the first got accepted

658
00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:38,240
Speaker 1: into the Emerald or the Messages of Real Estate Development program,

659
00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:41,560
Speaker 1: we had a conversation and I said almost the same

660
00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:44,120
Speaker 1: extent that what you're saying right now said do When

661
00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:46,480
Speaker 1: the kitchen said, babe, you know what this means and

662
00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:48,440
Speaker 1: you're like, yeah, you know. Now I'm gonna be there,

663
00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:51,239
Speaker 1: We're gonna be working together, I was like, for you,

664
00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:55,160
Speaker 1: I want you to understand that, no matter how big

665
00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:58,000
Speaker 1: my personality is and where I am at right now,

666
00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:01,839
Speaker 1: your your star is righter than mine when it comes

667
00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:04,840
Speaker 1: to this because as even right now, we have a

668
00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:09,360
Speaker 1: strip mall um in North Plintsville. I'm a commercial developer.

669
00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:12,880
Speaker 1: He owns the strip mall. Even as she was a

670
00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:16,120
Speaker 1: stay at home mom, she was the owner of our

671
00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:20,200
Speaker 1: apartment complex. So the sole owner is the any property

672
00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:23,160
Speaker 1: sole owner. So the thing about it is I hateful.

673
00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:24,839
Speaker 1: Even with the chopinism, this is a lot we can

674
00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:28,280
Speaker 1: laugh in the background, right. Chopping is the main control

675
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:31,719
Speaker 1: is because even as people say, hey, he stay at

676
00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:33,719
Speaker 1: home mom, I don't want them to think that the

677
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:36,040
Speaker 1: check them downs is are not there. In terms of ownership,

678
00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:38,719
Speaker 1: she owns eighty five percent of scope. He owns one

679
00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:42,120
Speaker 1: of the real state endeavors. She owns fifty one percent

680
00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:44,840
Speaker 1: of the black degir lines. And so this this my

681
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:47,680
Speaker 1: Soison lost his mind in terms of all he controlled.

682
00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:49,920
Speaker 1: If I walking away right now, I'd walking with less

683
00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:53,600
Speaker 1: than fift of our wealth. So, uh, you know, her

684
00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:57,600
Speaker 1: start is right, she had a bright stop. Now I wouldn't.

685
00:37:57,600 --> 00:38:00,440
Speaker 1: I wouldn't mentioning her storm. I was shining there. Oh

686
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:02,759
Speaker 1: I was shining. Oh no, no, no, no, no, I

687
00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:08,040
Speaker 1: was in agreement with you that you know. It's the

688
00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:10,879
Speaker 1: beauty of it. Now at the moment for me also,

689
00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:13,799
Speaker 1: which I thought, really because I'm talking about the show too,

690
00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:17,239
Speaker 1: was what the storyline moment that really I thought brought

691
00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:20,279
Speaker 1: your character back was going in the restaurant. You know,

692
00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:23,520
Speaker 1: when you saw her, they allowed us to see that,

693
00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:26,920
Speaker 1: you saw her potential. You know, that was important for

694
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:29,240
Speaker 1: your character. I thought for this for the first season.

695
00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:34,279
Speaker 1: Did you do you agree? Yeah, I think so, I

696
00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:37,960
Speaker 1: think so. I think that, Um, I don't know how

697
00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:40,240
Speaker 1: this works. Growing up, I wanted to be a protector.

698
00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:43,080
Speaker 1: I want to be a provided her. We we we

699
00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:45,040
Speaker 1: were we you know, we we saw it was holding

700
00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:48,719
Speaker 1: it down. That that's how we value the measure. And

701
00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:50,960
Speaker 1: so yes, I thought that, you know, I was doing right,

702
00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:54,960
Speaker 1: you know, and I didn't realize that. I mean, honestly,

703
00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:57,120
Speaker 1: I just didn't didn't even give the second thought that.

704
00:38:57,360 --> 00:38:59,080
Speaker 1: You know, my wife wanted to do this stuff too,

705
00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:01,000
Speaker 1: I thought he we just wanted to be to sit

706
00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:03,719
Speaker 1: back and kill and it just kind of I didn't

707
00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:05,680
Speaker 1: know how to deal with it. I didn't know what

708
00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:08,359
Speaker 1: it meant for us. And so just as long as

709
00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:11,200
Speaker 1: I'm listening and see that he can contribute saying more so,

710
00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:14,840
Speaker 1: enough thought, so, yeah, take them back a little bit

711
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:18,080
Speaker 1: on that one. But you see how hard he was.

712
00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:22,879
Speaker 1: He was like, okay, baby. But then's the authentic part

713
00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:25,560
Speaker 1: of it. See see, I got an eye for talent,

714
00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:28,120
Speaker 1: and I see things play out, and I see what

715
00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:30,239
Speaker 1: they could do in the editing room. And I thought

716
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:33,120
Speaker 1: that was important that that episode came up because I

717
00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:35,560
Speaker 1: knew you kind of like you joke a lot. You

718
00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:37,960
Speaker 1: on the jokesters. You know that's your wife. And and

719
00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:40,319
Speaker 1: like I said, people can read jokes differently if they

720
00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:42,399
Speaker 1: don't see the whole joke, they just see the punch line.

721
00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:45,280
Speaker 1: And so they caught you a lot of punchlines. Okay,

722
00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:48,239
Speaker 1: and then it built you to be like a controlling guy.

723
00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:52,480
Speaker 1: But that moment in that restaurant, man, they shot it beautifully. Man,

724
00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:54,680
Speaker 1: when you looked over and go, babe, I love you,

725
00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:57,520
Speaker 1: I got you, I got your back to me. I

726
00:39:57,520 --> 00:40:00,160
Speaker 1: would my boy back into the series. This is we

727
00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:02,400
Speaker 1: can move ahead and do everything. Now. I know you

728
00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:04,640
Speaker 1: want to do another podcast with him, but you know

729
00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:12,920
Speaker 1: everything else is beautiful. Rights. You know, I'm saying, teacher,

730
00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:15,439
Speaker 1: think they're gonna do no more podcast? When he said

731
00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:18,600
Speaker 1: that loud, let's get the script. He gotta get his script.

732
00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:20,520
Speaker 1: See here you're not gonna You're not gonna bring more

733
00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:23,400
Speaker 1: so and that and live with him. No more, no, no, no, no,

734
00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:26,400
Speaker 1: no no no. Now mom, So let's talk about the

735
00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:29,759
Speaker 1: mother in law. Now, what's real and what's fact in

736
00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:35,359
Speaker 1: your relationship with your mother in law? Teacher's mother, Man,

737
00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:40,919
Speaker 1: she's uh, I gad, she's a she's a brother of air,

738
00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:44,320
Speaker 1: you know. But it's a fresh air? Is it fresher?

739
00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:49,600
Speaker 1: I'm just saying I'm not getting the fresh I'm just

740
00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:58,200
Speaker 1: saying that stopping, stopping, nor mama is a bred and

741
00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:00,920
Speaker 1: fresh air. I'm gonna defend your mom, teacher, if you

742
00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:07,160
Speaker 1: don't defend your mom, you guys, because what's fresh? Come on, Frank,

743
00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:14,719
Speaker 1: Come on, Frank man, he's definitely Ay, that's Alabama, say, man,

744
00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:16,960
Speaker 1: that's my guy. Hey, but man, it's just it's just

745
00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:19,279
Speaker 1: just a lot. It's just a lot to take and

746
00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:21,719
Speaker 1: sometimes you gotta you gotta know her heart. She's a

747
00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:25,320
Speaker 1: sweet woman. She's gets a lot of love and she's

748
00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:27,520
Speaker 1: a little bit you know, it's a little different than

749
00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:31,640
Speaker 1: than you know, we're allays from. But he has a

750
00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:35,680
Speaker 1: different little point with absolutely that. So teaching, what's the goals? Now,

751
00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:37,960
Speaker 1: what's the goals? Now, you know, we talked about the

752
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:39,919
Speaker 1: second season. We're about to roll into the first season.

753
00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:41,719
Speaker 1: We're about to roll in the second season because I

754
00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:43,360
Speaker 1: want to talk about the car line. But where are

755
00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:45,840
Speaker 1: you at with your career that they're showcasing in the

756
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:50,880
Speaker 1: second season. Yeah, so, um, I am still in school

757
00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:53,480
Speaker 1: from fill in school right now. I guess I'm gonna

758
00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:56,239
Speaker 1: a t my program. So that is it just it

759
00:41:56,360 --> 00:42:01,920
Speaker 1: just trying to the school the kids. Also, UM the plazas,

760
00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:05,600
Speaker 1: so we're developing his retap plaza. I've also done with

761
00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:09,359
Speaker 1: two to commercial deals so far with different UM small

762
00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:13,480
Speaker 1: business owners. So I'm not like jumping into the commercial

763
00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:15,959
Speaker 1: world like Fool or forth. I'm taking baby stups to Fool.

764
00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:17,960
Speaker 1: But I'm still making some you know, I'm bringing some

765
00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:21,040
Speaker 1: food to the table a little bit, just a little

766
00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:23,560
Speaker 1: bit at a little bit there, come on, so come on,

767
00:42:24,719 --> 00:42:28,040
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, man, he's making it happen. I mean, I

768
00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:31,120
Speaker 1: think sometimes he doesn't actually recognize hees. He hasn't put

769
00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:34,279
Speaker 1: on paper and get a chance to see what he's

770
00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:37,760
Speaker 1: actually doing. He owns a strip mall here in towns,

771
00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:42,040
Speaker 1: he owns us he's building two restaurants or company. Is

772
00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:46,760
Speaker 1: um you know, building an apartment complex, hetz in the hotel,

773
00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:50,160
Speaker 1: building two restaurants, the strip mall. We're looking forward to

774
00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:54,799
Speaker 1: building other apartment complexes and things like that. So yeah,

775
00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:56,560
Speaker 1: I mean so so we've got a lot going on

776
00:42:56,760 --> 00:43:00,359
Speaker 1: right now. Wow, that's all I going us. How did

777
00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:02,360
Speaker 1: your cigar lounge come up with? What I did? What

778
00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:05,719
Speaker 1: gave that vision? Because we're talking about Huntsville, Okay, we're

779
00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:08,000
Speaker 1: not talking about at Land On New York of Chicago.

780
00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:11,080
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do a cigar lounge in huts first, before

781
00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:13,840
Speaker 1: you asked the course to tell everybody about Huntsville, the environment,

782
00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:16,080
Speaker 1: because I've been there several times. Because I should do

783
00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:18,239
Speaker 1: stand up comedy and how's you coming too, talent do

784
00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:20,879
Speaker 1: And that's the headquarters of NASA. So there's a lot

785
00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:23,920
Speaker 1: of a lot of educated people, a lot of educated

786
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:25,800
Speaker 1: dollars in Huntsfield. A lot of people know about it.

787
00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:31,640
Speaker 1: Tell us about Huntsville, right quick, Marcel, Well, hunt hunt

788
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:36,759
Speaker 1: is a you know, it is a fast growing city. Uh,

789
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:40,080
Speaker 1: it's one of the most nor it's the northernmost uh,

790
00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:44,719
Speaker 1: you know, major cities in Alabama. And honestly, it's it's uh,

791
00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:47,560
Speaker 1: it's a melting pot. In terms of diversity of thought,

792
00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:51,759
Speaker 1: it is uh, you know, diversity of income. Most people

793
00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:56,839
Speaker 1: in that are living hunt now because of NASA, FBI, Facebook,

794
00:43:57,000 --> 00:44:00,080
Speaker 1: Hilaris and a lot of people that have come in

795
00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:03,840
Speaker 1: for the boom. A lot of people are not from Huntsville,

796
00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:06,799
Speaker 1: and so you get that, you get that ability to think,

797
00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:08,799
Speaker 1: I mean, as the most engineers for Cathol, I believe

798
00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:11,759
Speaker 1: the United States definitely the most rocket scientists. So I

799
00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:14,320
Speaker 1: mean it's not crazy to have a conversation at the

800
00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:16,000
Speaker 1: bar and say what do you some kind of rocket

801
00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:21,040
Speaker 1: scientists and they say, exactly right, And it's and and

802
00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:25,040
Speaker 1: it's really funny because it's not just it's it's uh,

803
00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:29,160
Speaker 1: it's a higher income, but it's not it's engineer money.

804
00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:32,520
Speaker 1: And engineer money spends a lot different than entertainment money

805
00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:35,480
Speaker 1: or um things like that. So when when people look

806
00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:38,760
Speaker 1: at what people look for in Huntsville, they look for value.

807
00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:42,000
Speaker 1: And you know, when we're kind of assessing the area

808
00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:45,719
Speaker 1: and kind of doing our demographic study and saying what

809
00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:47,879
Speaker 1: do we want to put over in this area, that's

810
00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:51,200
Speaker 1: kind of how Segar Allilenge came about. When we're talking

811
00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:53,959
Speaker 1: about when when we started examining the area and saying,

812
00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:57,200
Speaker 1: you know what, what would be a good fit here now?

813
00:44:57,360 --> 00:45:02,680
Speaker 1: Is there? Okay? No, I was just gonna just add

814
00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:04,399
Speaker 1: a little bit to what Marco just said. The area

815
00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:08,240
Speaker 1: that we're developing the cigar lounge at the medium income

816
00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:11,000
Speaker 1: in that particular areas right around A hundred and fifty

817
00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:15,520
Speaker 1: one thousand. It's like, yeah, and it's a great area

818
00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:21,040
Speaker 1: for redevelopment and also small business growth. UM in North Huntsville,

819
00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:23,680
Speaker 1: which is where our that's our target market right now,

820
00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:27,880
Speaker 1: and it's like the economy there is the market pro stress,

821
00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:32,760
Speaker 1: it's like, um, it has increased by more than justice

822
00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:35,160
Speaker 1: like two thousand and eight. And then when you're you're

823
00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:38,640
Speaker 1: thinking about small business growth with the strict and around

824
00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:42,040
Speaker 1: seven percent range. So it's a great area to comeing

825
00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:45,560
Speaker 1: to to develop and we're looking for more small businesses

826
00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:49,000
Speaker 1: and restaurants to come into the area. Well, wow, it

827
00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:51,120
Speaker 1: sounds like a lot of research has been put into

828
00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:53,359
Speaker 1: this whole process. It's food going to be served at

829
00:45:53,400 --> 00:46:00,279
Speaker 1: the cigar lounge, yes, sir, well, it's by definition, based

830
00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:04,200
Speaker 1: on zoning, it's a restaurant right and in that so

831
00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:07,160
Speaker 1: so we can't have an actual class two lounge like

832
00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:10,279
Speaker 1: a license is gonna definitely have an alcohol. Um, so

833
00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:14,000
Speaker 1: it is actually a restaurant there right, Um, but but

834
00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:19,320
Speaker 1: it teachures more topics, so you know it features more topics.

835
00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:23,759
Speaker 1: Is really upscale? Um? You know, exclusively, I guess. I

836
00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:27,719
Speaker 1: guess our tagline is exclusively for everyone, you know, to

837
00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:31,120
Speaker 1: make sure that we're exclusive without excluding. You know. The

838
00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:33,400
Speaker 1: interesting thing about one of the reasons, one of the

839
00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:35,719
Speaker 1: one of the topics I bring up, I always talk

840
00:46:35,719 --> 00:46:39,040
Speaker 1: about a balanced life, living a balanced life, and you know,

841
00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:42,080
Speaker 1: this is really something that rings out and when I communicate,

842
00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:44,560
Speaker 1: even when you were saying okay, you know do we

843
00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:47,080
Speaker 1: jokingly talked about the five year rule because that was

844
00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:50,200
Speaker 1: that was your version of balanced life. And then teachers say, hey,

845
00:46:50,520 --> 00:46:52,440
Speaker 1: I want to get back out there early. Then the

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Speaker 1: all that stuff. Talk about that whole how is how

848
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Speaker 1: We brought them in, you know, and then when they

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Speaker 1: M hm. You know what's in the road. Well, you know,

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Speaker 1: I always gonna say that, um, balance, you know, I

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Speaker 1: understand where you talk about like you know, your time,

857
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858
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Speaker 1: You're not gonna win it today and then say oh

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862
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863
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Speaker 1: is these are daily balances. I mean the daily challenges.

865
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Speaker 1: And so that is the same with balance in your life.

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868
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869
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Speaker 1: you know, and you know is all these things happen

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872
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873
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Speaker 1: and stuff like that. So balance is something that you

875
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876
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Speaker 1: sometimes we look at each other and say, hey, hey,

877
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Speaker 1: Are we getting too focused? Will be looking too far

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Speaker 1: each other and and and so, yes, we try to

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Speaker 1: work on balancing downs get out of balance. I appreciate

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Speaker 1: both of you guys coming on the show. I love

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888
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889
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890
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891
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Speaker 1: don't change. Both of you guys. I really appreciate you

892
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894
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Speaker 1: also just let you know that keep your head up

895
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896
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897
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Speaker 1: As long as you maintain focused on the importance of

898
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899
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Speaker 1: That we really for having us on to just talk

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901
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Speaker 1: And I know one of the things everybody kept saying,

902
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906
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907
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Speaker 1: we just pray every day and we show that on

908
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Speaker 1: the show that you know, there's no perfect marriage. You

909
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910
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Speaker 1: within our marriage and also within business. So continue to

911
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Speaker 1: pray for us, and we're hoping to, you know, really

912
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913
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Speaker 1: Thank you for coming on money making conversations. Okay, thank you.

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946
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Speaker 1: He's a family man or a wife and two handsome

947
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Speaker 1: young men, and he's a truck driver turn baker. Hear me,

948
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Speaker 1: hear me, there go, truck driver turn baker. I know

949
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Speaker 1: you know, truck you know you you know, you just

950
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Speaker 1: got there, just on that road and all that good stuff.

951
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Speaker 1: But he's a baker, so I said, he knows what

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Speaker 1: he's doing. After being inspired by a video featuring my

953
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Speaker 1: man Steve Harvey, he does a lot of inspirational videos

954
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Speaker 1: on the Regular Divers part of this YouTube channel, he

955
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Speaker 1: decided to follow his passion and start baking. Do you

956
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Speaker 1: hear that? He decided to start follow and follow his

957
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Speaker 1: passion and start baking. He took that passion and started

958
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Speaker 1: his very own business called Brother bakes as b A

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Speaker 1: b r O t h A Bakes' is an online

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Speaker 1: bakery based out of Houston, Texas. They specialize in cakes

961
00:53:07,800 --> 00:53:09,839
Speaker 1: and they ship all over the country. That's what we're

962
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Speaker 1: talking about, online bakery that ships all over the country.

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Speaker 1: Please welcome to money Making Conversation, my man, Houstonian Mark Lennon.

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Speaker 1: All right, thanks for having me well Mark that introduction

965
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Speaker 1: man making me feel at professional. Well, first of all,

966
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Speaker 1: you're professional. I today you delivered uh to my house

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Speaker 1: for your desserts. They come in the jar that kicks

968
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Speaker 1: in the jar. We'll talk about more detail, but let

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Speaker 1: everybody know one of us called the the Ready Murphy.

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Speaker 1: I love this guy. You know, he has a sense

971
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972
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Speaker 1: but he shifts a little bit into their name. Do

973
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Speaker 1: you kind of know what the dessert is tied to

974
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Speaker 1: the name of the celebrity that he's married the dessert

975
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Speaker 1: to Ready Murphy. I got that today. The Banana Ross

976
00:53:59,440 --> 00:54:03,319
Speaker 1: got that to say, the Germaine dupris, which is German

977
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Speaker 1: chocolate cake, which I love. I'm tasting Man German chic.

978
00:54:07,280 --> 00:54:09,200
Speaker 1: Youah be sold on German tacic. So is that what's

979
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Speaker 1: your website. So German Chocolate Cake, I was your man.

980
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Speaker 1: I was your man right there, and then the Marah

981
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Speaker 1: carry and my second favorite cake is carrot cake. So

982
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Speaker 1: you already got two of my favorite cakes over there,

983
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Speaker 1: the German Taka cake and the carrot cake. So let's

984
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Speaker 1: talk about well, you're taking care of me, because guess

985
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Speaker 1: what this is what I'm gonna do for you. I'm

986
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988
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna post it on social media. You know, I've

989
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Speaker 1: got like eight hundred thousand followers on my Facebook, right

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992
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993
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1003
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Speaker 1: oh man, well, thank you to you. We appreciate that.

1004
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Speaker 1: Well good, well, good, well good. Let let's talk about

1005
00:55:28,239 --> 00:55:31,239
Speaker 1: let's talk about what inspired let's let's let's talk about

1006
00:55:31,239 --> 00:55:33,800
Speaker 1: your truck driving life. Let's talk about that first and

1007
00:55:33,920 --> 00:55:36,920
Speaker 1: so then because we want to understand the time that

1008
00:55:37,080 --> 00:55:39,719
Speaker 1: was spent over there too before we peep it into

1009
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Speaker 1: the what what what inspired you to do your dream

1010
00:55:42,480 --> 00:55:45,160
Speaker 1: and how you're doing your dream. Okay, let's talk about

1011
00:55:45,200 --> 00:55:48,719
Speaker 1: truck driving life. All right, Yeah, let's do that. So

1012
00:55:49,320 --> 00:55:51,439
Speaker 1: a little bit more before we get into truck driving.

1013
00:55:51,480 --> 00:55:54,439
Speaker 1: I was actually a classic designer for like fifteen years, okay,

1014
00:55:54,480 --> 00:55:59,799
Speaker 1: cool man, Yeah, in Columbia, South Carolina, and just then

1015
00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:02,040
Speaker 1: work out, you know, the market drive up a little bit.

1016
00:56:02,239 --> 00:56:05,359
Speaker 1: I need to do something. Um, I'm a guy who's

1017
00:56:05,360 --> 00:56:08,239
Speaker 1: trying to provide from provide for my family. So the

1018
00:56:08,320 --> 00:56:10,120
Speaker 1: idea of going back to school for three or four

1019
00:56:10,200 --> 00:56:12,279
Speaker 1: years just wasn't having it for me. So I was

1020
00:56:12,320 --> 00:56:14,360
Speaker 1: like you know what, I can get this CDL in

1021
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Speaker 1: six weeks start working providing for my family. So that's

1022
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Speaker 1: how I became a truck driver. And I've been doing

1023
00:56:21,200 --> 00:56:24,320
Speaker 1: that for about four years. Uh, it's been good for me,

1024
00:56:24,440 --> 00:56:26,720
Speaker 1: it's been good for my family. Is actually a good break,

1025
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Speaker 1: um from the glass design in the marketing. But then, um,

1026
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Speaker 1: as I'm driving, you know, and uh, it just wasn't

1027
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Speaker 1: It's just not my full passion. I do enjoy it,

1028
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Speaker 1: you know, I'm good at it, but it just wasn't

1029
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Speaker 1: where I wanted to be. Now you are, you're a

1030
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Speaker 1: local driver or you line drive from state to state

1031
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Speaker 1: the city of the city. Yeah, I'm a local driver

1032
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Speaker 1: right here in Houston Metro for those of you familiar

1033
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Speaker 1: with Houston. UM, my route is anywhere from Houston down

1034
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Speaker 1: to Galveston for right. Well, good, Well. The reason I

1035
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Speaker 1: found out about you, my friend, was, of course, Uh,

1036
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Speaker 1: everybody knows Steve Harvey. I've been knowing each other for

1037
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Speaker 1: thirty years. I was a manager from official manager from

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Speaker 1: two thousands sixteen, and I read an article in the

1039
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Speaker 1: Houston Chronicle, the number one newspaper in Houston, and they

1040
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Speaker 1: talked about you, and then you had a little note

1041
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Speaker 1: in there that said that you were inspired by something

1042
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Speaker 1: to talk about that is what inspired you that Steve

1043
00:57:26,720 --> 00:57:30,760
Speaker 1: Harvey did for you. Yeah, back in um the early

1044
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Speaker 1: part of the nineteen I'm just sitting in the barbershop

1045
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Speaker 1: getting my hair cut. My barbera plays this video. It

1046
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Speaker 1: has Steve Harvey in it, my Hulse, Monroe in Denzel Washington,

1047
00:57:41,960 --> 00:57:45,000
Speaker 1: and I'm listening to it and Steve said, if that

1048
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Speaker 1: alarm clock goes up every morning and you're not excited

1049
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Speaker 1: about what you're doing, you're not living in your passion.

1050
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Speaker 1: And that hit me like a ton of bricks. And

1051
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Speaker 1: I was like, man, that it just resonated with me.

1052
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Speaker 1: So from that point on, I started thinking, man, what

1053
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Speaker 1: am I doing? What should I be doing? Where's my passion?

1054
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Speaker 1: Went through a bunch of stuff that I was thinking about.

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00:58:06,040 --> 00:58:09,120
Speaker 1: And Steve also said that if it comes easy to

1056
00:58:09,280 --> 00:58:12,120
Speaker 1: you something you do better than anybody else, Like you

1057
00:58:12,160 --> 00:58:14,440
Speaker 1: give an example, if you cut here better than anybody else,

1058
00:58:14,440 --> 00:58:17,320
Speaker 1: you should be cutting here. And even said if you

1059
00:58:17,440 --> 00:58:20,600
Speaker 1: bake better than anyone else, you should be baking. And

1060
00:58:20,840 --> 00:58:22,600
Speaker 1: I was and that kind of hit me. I was like,

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00:58:22,680 --> 00:58:25,720
Speaker 1: you know what, I'll make some pretty good cake, and

1062
00:58:26,600 --> 00:58:29,440
Speaker 1: from that point on, it was just full speed ahead.

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00:58:29,920 --> 00:58:31,880
Speaker 1: How can I get this going? How can I get

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00:58:31,920 --> 00:58:36,520
Speaker 1: it started? And Steve really inspired me. It changed my life,

1065
00:58:36,600 --> 00:58:39,840
Speaker 1: It really did. Okay, Okay, he motivated you. Okay, But

1066
00:58:40,000 --> 00:58:43,400
Speaker 1: that motivation and execution are two different things now, because

1067
00:58:43,400 --> 00:58:46,200
Speaker 1: a lot of people get motivated, you know that, Mark right, Oh,

1068
00:58:46,240 --> 00:58:48,160
Speaker 1: I'm excited go out there and then and say, oh

1069
00:58:48,200 --> 00:58:51,880
Speaker 1: I gotta do all that. Whoa, whoa, whoa whoa. Okay, cool.

1070
00:58:52,120 --> 00:58:55,400
Speaker 1: Now let's talk about you know, said graphic designer. You

1071
00:58:55,560 --> 00:58:59,440
Speaker 1: learn how to pivot truck driver, smart move and comes

1072
00:58:59,480 --> 00:59:02,800
Speaker 1: that income. Now, all these pivot moves and you're making

1073
00:59:03,160 --> 00:59:05,760
Speaker 1: you have to discuss what the number one at the

1074
00:59:05,840 --> 00:59:09,480
Speaker 1: house the wife Okay, yeah, I got two handsome young

1075
00:59:09,560 --> 00:59:14,880
Speaker 1: men there. Okay, So talk about that conversation that you

1076
00:59:15,000 --> 00:59:17,560
Speaker 1: had with her and had you displayed these gifts to

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00:59:17,680 --> 00:59:21,440
Speaker 1: her and at that level that she believed that it

1078
00:59:21,600 --> 00:59:25,120
Speaker 1: was possible. Talk about that? Yeah, yeah, Well, you know

1079
00:59:25,520 --> 00:59:27,800
Speaker 1: my biggest fans of my wife and my two kids,

1080
00:59:27,840 --> 00:59:30,760
Speaker 1: of my baking, they've experienced more of my desert than

1081
00:59:30,800 --> 00:59:35,240
Speaker 1: anybody else. You knew the product was good, but she

1082
00:59:35,480 --> 00:59:38,160
Speaker 1: also know that I'm a pro person who's tried a

1083
00:59:38,240 --> 00:59:41,160
Speaker 1: few things in the past, things that didn't work out.

1084
00:59:41,560 --> 00:59:43,400
Speaker 1: So she was a little worried at first. I'll be

1085
00:59:43,520 --> 00:59:45,800
Speaker 1: honest with you, and she say, look, if you're gonna

1086
00:59:45,880 --> 00:59:48,280
Speaker 1: do this, you need to do it right. You need

1087
00:59:48,360 --> 00:59:50,880
Speaker 1: to go hard on it, and this needs to be

1088
00:59:51,000 --> 00:59:53,280
Speaker 1: the thing. It's like, I can't have you flaking out

1089
00:59:53,320 --> 00:59:58,440
Speaker 1: on me. And once we had that conversation and I

1090
00:59:58,560 --> 01:00:00,440
Speaker 1: kind of explained to her in my dis and I

1091
01:00:00,560 --> 01:00:02,800
Speaker 1: was like, well, this is different because I'm really passionate

1092
01:00:02,800 --> 01:00:07,160
Speaker 1: about it. Excuse me. And she was all on board, welcome,

1093
01:00:07,280 --> 01:00:10,480
Speaker 1: very encouraging that that's that's that's important because like I said,

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01:00:10,520 --> 01:00:11,919
Speaker 1: you know when we come and when I bring guests,

1095
01:00:11,960 --> 01:00:14,640
Speaker 1: like your money making conversation because you you're startup. You

1096
01:00:14,680 --> 01:00:18,400
Speaker 1: went from startup to execution. Now is this is part

1097
01:00:18,440 --> 01:00:20,760
Speaker 1: of the promotion, you know, you helping you get your

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01:00:20,800 --> 01:00:24,520
Speaker 1: word out generating additional This is more of a thank

1099
01:00:24,560 --> 01:00:26,280
Speaker 1: you Rochan for any of you on me, but also

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01:00:26,400 --> 01:00:30,480
Speaker 1: helped me promote and sell my cakes. What exactly Brother Bake?

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01:00:30,560 --> 01:00:35,200
Speaker 1: What exactly does Brother Bakes do? Okay, so what we

1102
01:00:35,360 --> 01:00:38,880
Speaker 1: do is we specialize in making cakes in the kay

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01:00:39,160 --> 01:00:40,600
Speaker 1: that one more time, say that one more time. Now

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01:00:40,920 --> 01:00:45,320
Speaker 1: you specialize in whatnot? Whatnot? We put kkes, We put

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01:00:45,440 --> 01:00:48,560
Speaker 1: cakes into jars and we ship them all over the country,

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01:00:48,680 --> 01:00:53,880
Speaker 1: including Alaska, Hawaii. That's what we do. And they had

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01:00:53,880 --> 01:00:57,520
Speaker 1: the equivalent of about two cupcakes. And uh cold, frankly,

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01:00:57,560 --> 01:00:59,720
Speaker 1: are the most delicious cakes you can find in a jar.

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01:01:01,640 --> 01:01:06,320
Speaker 1: Now you know, I'm a dessert guy. Okay, ye, people

1110
01:01:06,400 --> 01:01:09,320
Speaker 1: look at my people always complain about going to my

1111
01:01:09,440 --> 01:01:11,760
Speaker 1: Facebook page. Is said, Wich, I'm tired of you make

1112
01:01:11,800 --> 01:01:15,120
Speaker 1: me hongry. Okay, get on my doring nervous, said, they

1113
01:01:15,160 --> 01:01:18,080
Speaker 1: said another word. But but it's all positive when they

1114
01:01:18,120 --> 01:01:22,520
Speaker 1: say that, you know, from Peach Cobb, the Germany Chocolate Cake,

1115
01:01:22,640 --> 01:01:29,160
Speaker 1: sweet Potato pie care Cake. Now, what made you believe Mark,

1116
01:01:29,280 --> 01:01:32,880
Speaker 1: that you can put a cake in a jar and

1117
01:01:33,000 --> 01:01:35,320
Speaker 1: somebody would buy that? What made you believe that? Now,

1118
01:01:35,520 --> 01:01:39,600
Speaker 1: Steve Cheef Harvey didn't say that to you. Okay, Steve

1119
01:01:39,680 --> 01:01:42,080
Speaker 1: didn't say that to me. So how how this all

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01:01:42,200 --> 01:01:44,280
Speaker 1: came about? Yeah, we want to know that. We want

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01:01:44,320 --> 01:01:47,920
Speaker 1: to know that. Now I knew I had good products.

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01:01:48,560 --> 01:01:51,400
Speaker 1: It was pretty confident about that. But typically the case

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01:01:51,480 --> 01:01:54,520
Speaker 1: I bake a full sized cakes and I thought about, well,

1124
01:01:54,560 --> 01:01:57,040
Speaker 1: you know what, sending a cake in the mail for me,

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01:01:57,160 --> 01:02:00,160
Speaker 1: it just wasn't gonna happen. That's just not something that

1126
01:02:00,280 --> 01:02:03,720
Speaker 1: I wanted to tackle. So I started thinking about it. Now,

1127
01:02:03,800 --> 01:02:07,000
Speaker 1: I've heard of people doing this before. In fact, about

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01:02:07,200 --> 01:02:10,440
Speaker 1: five or six years ago, as a Christmas gift, I

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01:02:10,560 --> 01:02:14,080
Speaker 1: had some Christmas velvet and a cake that I gave

1130
01:02:14,160 --> 01:02:16,600
Speaker 1: out to some family members. They loved it, and I

1131
01:02:16,760 --> 01:02:18,640
Speaker 1: just came back to that idea, like, you know what,

1132
01:02:19,880 --> 01:02:22,400
Speaker 1: I put these cakes in the jar, I can ship

1133
01:02:22,480 --> 01:02:25,040
Speaker 1: them all over the place. And not only that, instead

1134
01:02:25,080 --> 01:02:28,040
Speaker 1: of family having one flavor of cake, they can have

1135
01:02:28,200 --> 01:02:31,600
Speaker 1: four different flavors, eight different flavors, whatever they want, and

1136
01:02:31,720 --> 01:02:35,320
Speaker 1: everybody's happy. So that's why where that kind of came from.

1137
01:02:35,560 --> 01:02:37,920
Speaker 1: That's why I decided to do that. You know, it's

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01:02:37,960 --> 01:02:40,640
Speaker 1: easier to ship jars than it is a full size cake,

1139
01:02:40,960 --> 01:02:44,360
Speaker 1: absolutely absolutely, But it's it's not so much that you

1140
01:02:44,440 --> 01:02:47,080
Speaker 1: know it's easier, but just do you have to maintain

1141
01:02:47,160 --> 01:02:50,720
Speaker 1: the quality, you know, And that's that's the whole process

1142
01:02:50,800 --> 01:02:54,520
Speaker 1: we're talking about right now. Because and you want return customers,

1143
01:02:54,560 --> 01:02:57,120
Speaker 1: you want word of mouth customers, you want people, you know,

1144
01:02:57,360 --> 01:03:00,840
Speaker 1: especially become seasonal customers and thinks like that. Now, now

1145
01:03:00,920 --> 01:03:05,520
Speaker 1: we all know what hit this year, the pandemic COVID nineteen. Okay,

1146
01:03:06,040 --> 01:03:07,880
Speaker 1: when did you launch your business? Let me ask you

1147
01:03:07,960 --> 01:03:12,920
Speaker 1: that question, Mark. Okay, So I launched my business officially

1148
01:03:13,000 --> 01:03:21,080
Speaker 1: in November. November. Okay, nobody saw a pandemic coming. Nobody

1149
01:03:21,120 --> 01:03:24,320
Speaker 1: saw it coming. Um, and here I am. You know,

1150
01:03:24,440 --> 01:03:27,720
Speaker 1: I'm selling my cakes online and that's going well. But

1151
01:03:27,800 --> 01:03:30,840
Speaker 1: I'm like, you know what, I'm in Houston. Houston is hopping. Man,

1152
01:03:30,960 --> 01:03:33,760
Speaker 1: everything's going on in Houston. So why don't I take

1153
01:03:33,800 --> 01:03:36,320
Speaker 1: some of my cakes to the markets, um, some of

1154
01:03:36,400 --> 01:03:40,120
Speaker 1: the festivals around here. And as soon as I geared

1155
01:03:40,200 --> 01:03:43,680
Speaker 1: up to do that, that's when COVID hit and so

1156
01:03:43,880 --> 01:03:46,960
Speaker 1: all of that was shut down. So you know, I

1157
01:03:47,080 --> 01:03:49,160
Speaker 1: had to take a step back, Like you know what,

1158
01:03:49,560 --> 01:03:52,520
Speaker 1: dream still goes for it. So I reimpy, you know,

1159
01:03:52,680 --> 01:03:56,240
Speaker 1: my efforts, and I decided to just focus more on

1160
01:03:56,360 --> 01:04:01,400
Speaker 1: the online sales, and um, that's kind of where we are. Wow. Wow,

1161
01:04:01,720 --> 01:04:05,160
Speaker 1: I'm talking to Mark Lennon. He's hestone in by way

1162
01:04:05,200 --> 01:04:10,120
Speaker 1: of Columbia, South Carolina. Right, Okay, I know, my brother,

1163
01:04:10,440 --> 01:04:12,400
Speaker 1: I know about Columbia many day, went down there and

1164
01:04:12,560 --> 01:04:14,440
Speaker 1: uh did some jokes with me and Steve out there

1165
01:04:14,480 --> 01:04:20,760
Speaker 1: selling out there the township auditorioum okay, I had to

1166
01:04:20,840 --> 01:04:22,440
Speaker 1: hit you in the name. You go, oh yeah, oh yeah,

1167
01:04:22,480 --> 01:04:25,440
Speaker 1: he for real, he for real? Off then you know

1168
01:04:25,520 --> 01:04:29,760
Speaker 1: about the township resolute bit brother, a little park a

1169
01:04:29,800 --> 01:04:31,840
Speaker 1: lot that surrounds that build. It looks like old church.

1170
01:04:32,520 --> 01:04:35,240
Speaker 1: Before we get started in that direction about your business

1171
01:04:35,360 --> 01:04:38,000
Speaker 1: and and we know what's happening out there. Black lives matters.

1172
01:04:38,080 --> 01:04:40,960
Speaker 1: We saw what happened to George Floyd. We'll see what

1173
01:04:41,000 --> 01:04:43,080
Speaker 1: happened to you know, you're a black man just like me.

1174
01:04:43,360 --> 01:04:45,480
Speaker 1: Policemen stopped me and I just could just be honest.

1175
01:04:45,480 --> 01:04:47,960
Speaker 1: It's not a comfortable feeling for any African American male

1176
01:04:48,360 --> 01:04:51,160
Speaker 1: to be stopped on I'm sorry. Yeah, it has not

1177
01:04:51,280 --> 01:04:53,560
Speaker 1: been something. It has been that way my whole life.

1178
01:04:54,360 --> 01:04:56,480
Speaker 1: It was just I got a driver slice and it's

1179
01:04:56,480 --> 01:04:58,120
Speaker 1: been that way, and that should not be the case.

1180
01:04:58,520 --> 01:05:01,800
Speaker 1: You have two young men, uh that you're raising, how

1181
01:05:01,840 --> 01:05:04,200
Speaker 1: do you approach that and what have you what what

1182
01:05:04,360 --> 01:05:06,760
Speaker 1: experiences have you shared with them? That's what's going on.

1183
01:05:06,880 --> 01:05:08,840
Speaker 1: Because sometimes you do limit the amount of expose you

1184
01:05:08,920 --> 01:05:12,120
Speaker 1: you do the kids or children or teenagers tell us

1185
01:05:12,120 --> 01:05:14,120
Speaker 1: about that experience that you're you're and your wife are

1186
01:05:14,160 --> 01:05:19,280
Speaker 1: dealing with right now and raising those two young men. Yeah, yeah, absolutely.

1187
01:05:19,400 --> 01:05:21,720
Speaker 1: You know, we do live in a time where we

1188
01:05:21,880 --> 01:05:24,840
Speaker 1: have to have these conversations, you know, with our kids.

1189
01:05:25,640 --> 01:05:28,760
Speaker 1: And you know, my kids are twelve and fifteen, and

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01:05:28,880 --> 01:05:31,400
Speaker 1: quite thankly we've just been very straight up with them.

1191
01:05:31,760 --> 01:05:34,880
Speaker 1: We haven't sugarcoated. We let them know that, look, you

1192
01:05:34,960 --> 01:05:37,320
Speaker 1: may be hanging with some of your friends and they

1193
01:05:37,400 --> 01:05:39,480
Speaker 1: may be able to do certain things that you simply

1194
01:05:39,560 --> 01:05:42,160
Speaker 1: cannot do, just because this is the world we live

1195
01:05:42,240 --> 01:05:44,960
Speaker 1: in and you're doing the same thing they do can

1196
01:05:45,080 --> 01:05:48,400
Speaker 1: cause you to get hurt or get yourself in trouble,

1197
01:05:49,120 --> 01:05:51,280
Speaker 1: and it's not fair, and we explain that to them.

1198
01:05:51,320 --> 01:05:53,920
Speaker 1: We know it's not fair, it's not right, but that

1199
01:05:54,120 --> 01:05:56,040
Speaker 1: is the world we live in. I'd rather you be

1200
01:05:56,160 --> 01:05:59,600
Speaker 1: here tomorrow, upset that it happened, and you'll not be here.

1201
01:06:00,600 --> 01:06:03,360
Speaker 1: We've been very straight up with our kids about what's

1202
01:06:03,400 --> 01:06:06,280
Speaker 1: going on in society and it's very important and that

1203
01:06:06,440 --> 01:06:09,080
Speaker 1: and that in turn talks about the COVID nineteen. We

1204
01:06:09,280 --> 01:06:12,479
Speaker 1: all know how it has impacted African American special people

1205
01:06:12,520 --> 01:06:15,360
Speaker 1: of color. We want to include the Hispanic community. How

1206
01:06:15,480 --> 01:06:18,120
Speaker 1: have uh you all lie business? I would like to

1207
01:06:18,160 --> 01:06:21,120
Speaker 1: believe that your your business has not been affected as

1208
01:06:21,240 --> 01:06:26,280
Speaker 1: much as a as a bricket mortar. Yeah, exactly, it

1209
01:06:26,400 --> 01:06:29,720
Speaker 1: has not. UM. In fact, you know, despite what's going on,

1210
01:06:29,920 --> 01:06:33,320
Speaker 1: you know, our sales have gone up, and I think

1211
01:06:33,440 --> 01:06:36,200
Speaker 1: in part because of Black Lives Matter and there are

1212
01:06:36,280 --> 01:06:40,000
Speaker 1: people that are supporting more black businesses. That part is true,

1213
01:06:40,520 --> 01:06:43,280
Speaker 1: but also the fact that people are stuck at home

1214
01:06:43,400 --> 01:06:46,040
Speaker 1: and they still want delicious desserts and then we can

1215
01:06:46,120 --> 01:06:48,560
Speaker 1: provide them with that, and I think that is a

1216
01:06:48,640 --> 01:06:53,240
Speaker 1: big part of of what's going on. UM in all honesty,

1217
01:06:53,360 --> 01:06:57,240
Speaker 1: as well as for me myself, you know, getting connected

1218
01:06:57,360 --> 01:07:01,520
Speaker 1: with UM. Next Insurance featured me in a commercial. Talk

1219
01:07:01,560 --> 01:07:03,680
Speaker 1: about that. That's right, Next Insurance. As I've seen those

1220
01:07:03,680 --> 01:07:06,360
Speaker 1: commercials with the people making a box and out of

1221
01:07:06,520 --> 01:07:09,280
Speaker 1: Next and doing different things with the word Next. Talk

1222
01:07:09,320 --> 01:07:13,680
Speaker 1: about that right quick? Okay, So you know, UM, when

1223
01:07:13,720 --> 01:07:18,160
Speaker 1: I started this business back in November of UM, I

1224
01:07:18,520 --> 01:07:21,040
Speaker 1: went hard on it. I really did. I had advertising

1225
01:07:21,120 --> 01:07:24,400
Speaker 1: and all that. Through one of those advertising UM, this

1226
01:07:24,560 --> 01:07:27,400
Speaker 1: young lady by the name of Jack found me and

1227
01:07:27,640 --> 01:07:29,560
Speaker 1: She was like, Hey, would you be interested in doing

1228
01:07:29,680 --> 01:07:34,560
Speaker 1: something with Next Insurance? How COVID has affected me and

1229
01:07:35,120 --> 01:07:38,120
Speaker 1: I did you know? I told my story similar what

1230
01:07:38,200 --> 01:07:40,880
Speaker 1: I said earlier about how I was all get up

1231
01:07:40,920 --> 01:07:43,800
Speaker 1: to get out here in Houston and promote my business,

1232
01:07:43,880 --> 01:07:47,040
Speaker 1: going to different festivals and to the markets, but when

1233
01:07:47,120 --> 01:07:50,120
Speaker 1: COVID hit, I had to shut down. But as my story,

1234
01:07:50,400 --> 01:07:52,960
Speaker 1: Next love that story, so they wanted to feature me

1235
01:07:53,440 --> 01:07:56,880
Speaker 1: and they did and from that point on things have

1236
01:07:57,400 --> 01:08:01,040
Speaker 1: been going really well for me. What exactly is Next Insurance?

1237
01:08:01,080 --> 01:08:03,760
Speaker 1: We can tell everybody what it is. You're part of it.

1238
01:08:03,880 --> 01:08:07,840
Speaker 1: Let's talk about the small business world, how how impactful

1239
01:08:07,880 --> 01:08:09,840
Speaker 1: it is, and how we all need that type of

1240
01:08:09,880 --> 01:08:12,440
Speaker 1: insurance specially that's the last thing we kind of budget

1241
01:08:12,520 --> 01:08:15,400
Speaker 1: when we start out our business. It's insurance and insurance

1242
01:08:15,400 --> 01:08:18,280
Speaker 1: should be the top of the line. Okay to talk

1243
01:08:18,320 --> 01:08:20,519
Speaker 1: about that. You know you in Next contact, did you

1244
01:08:21,000 --> 01:08:23,800
Speaker 1: you say that it brought it shinned a lot of

1245
01:08:23,880 --> 01:08:25,519
Speaker 1: popularity on you. But also you kind of like a

1246
01:08:25,560 --> 01:08:29,760
Speaker 1: spokesperson too, So tell me what exactly is Next Insurance? So?

1247
01:08:29,960 --> 01:08:33,800
Speaker 1: Next Insurance is um an insurance company that specialized and

1248
01:08:34,000 --> 01:08:37,680
Speaker 1: providing insurance for small businesses. They have a website that

1249
01:08:37,920 --> 01:08:40,519
Speaker 1: is so easy to use to sign up in minutes.

1250
01:08:40,680 --> 01:08:43,880
Speaker 1: It's nice and affordable in the paths were free. Their

1251
01:08:43,960 --> 01:08:48,800
Speaker 1: customer services wonderful and of course not only I represent them,

1252
01:08:48,880 --> 01:08:50,840
Speaker 1: but you know I am a customer as well and

1253
01:08:50,960 --> 01:08:54,439
Speaker 1: has no problems, uh when I need to talk to someone.

1254
01:08:54,680 --> 01:08:57,040
Speaker 1: So Next has been really good and it is a

1255
01:08:57,080 --> 01:09:00,840
Speaker 1: good insurance for small businesses. All so gross with you

1256
01:09:00,960 --> 01:09:05,680
Speaker 1: as well. Absolutely youth startings and they can expand with you. Absolutely. So,

1257
01:09:06,000 --> 01:09:08,759
Speaker 1: So let's talk about your business you started in November.

1258
01:09:09,760 --> 01:09:12,040
Speaker 1: If you you know, I'm not using the world mistake,

1259
01:09:12,120 --> 01:09:14,439
Speaker 1: but we all budget certain things, and we all think

1260
01:09:14,479 --> 01:09:16,120
Speaker 1: this is going to go in a certain direction. And

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Speaker 1: we're not talking about COVID nineteen or we're not talking

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Speaker 1: about these the civil unrest is going on with protesting

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01:09:22,400 --> 01:09:25,479
Speaker 1: the streets. We're talking about starting a business and planning

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01:09:25,520 --> 01:09:28,960
Speaker 1: it out right. Who did you seek advice from and

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01:09:29,920 --> 01:09:33,000
Speaker 1: how if you had to restart it differently, what techniques

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01:09:33,040 --> 01:09:35,080
Speaker 1: would you put in place, and what godelines you in place?

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Speaker 1: What would you budget differently? Okay, Uh, definitely one of

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Speaker 1: the things that would budget differently is buy an equipment.

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Speaker 1: The very least seeing if my house can handle the

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Speaker 1: equipment that I purchased. So talk about that, talk about

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Speaker 1: that letter, you know. So, so I'm in this house

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Speaker 1: right and it's a little bit of an older house,

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Speaker 1: and um so I decide, you know, maybe some you know,

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Speaker 1: maybe a refrigerator and uh uh stove in the garage

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01:10:08,160 --> 01:10:11,600
Speaker 1: would be a good idea. But you know, purchased it

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Speaker 1: without talking to the electrician for us and realized that

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Speaker 1: it would be a lot of work to get this

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Speaker 1: house uh to where it needs to be. Honestly, I've

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Speaker 1: handled that equipment, so you know, I am. I have

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Speaker 1: the equipment, but at the moment, I can't use it.

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Speaker 1: So that's one of the things, um that I learned

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01:10:30,720 --> 01:10:33,800
Speaker 1: that I needed to Uh. Let's definitely take a step

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01:10:33,880 --> 01:10:37,120
Speaker 1: back before week we do too much and kind of

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01:10:37,160 --> 01:10:39,160
Speaker 1: see what all needs to be done before you start

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01:10:39,240 --> 01:10:44,280
Speaker 1: purchasing equipment. Now, let's talk about going online and that's

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Speaker 1: brother Bakes dot com. Can I go through the different

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01:10:47,560 --> 01:10:49,920
Speaker 1: desserts and can you describe the people each one of

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Speaker 1: the desserts and why did you come over? The titles?

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Speaker 1: Why did you bring what? Which I find very humorous

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Speaker 1: and very entertainment tell us about the titles before we

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Speaker 1: need to get into the various desserts. Okay, so you know,

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Speaker 1: I'm I love Black culture, I love my people, you know,

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Speaker 1: and I wanted to celebrate it. That was the first thing.

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Speaker 1: Even Brother Bag the logo is a picture of myself

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01:11:13,880 --> 01:11:18,600
Speaker 1: style lies and the name brother you know itself just

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Speaker 1: kind of sounds black. And so that's where it all

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Speaker 1: started out. But with the names, you know, I'm sitting down,

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Speaker 1: I'm thinking, I didn't just want to call it a

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Speaker 1: call it a red velvet cake. I wanted something that

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Speaker 1: was catchy, wanted something that was connected to African American culture. So,

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Speaker 1: kind of tapping back into my graphic design and marketing background,

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01:11:41,760 --> 01:11:44,479
Speaker 1: the name Ready Murphy just kind of popped up and

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Speaker 1: I was like, and I kind of like that. So

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01:11:47,960 --> 01:11:55,599
Speaker 1: then after that, which is red when it is cake yet?

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01:11:56,160 --> 01:11:58,080
Speaker 1: And from that point it was just coming up with

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Speaker 1: names for all the other cakes the kind of tie

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Speaker 1: into our culture. Cool. The next case is this is

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Speaker 1: my favorite name though, the chocoal Con. That's funny. That's funny,

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01:12:09,160 --> 01:12:11,360
Speaker 1: you know. The be honest is that was actually the

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Speaker 1: second name I came up with, the chocolate can now

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01:12:16,960 --> 01:12:18,679
Speaker 1: at what point is whole thing? Did your wife said

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01:12:18,680 --> 01:12:21,360
Speaker 1: you silly? What's your wife said? You? Sill it? Mark?

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01:12:21,400 --> 01:12:24,880
Speaker 1: You said it? You know she loves because she knows me.

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Speaker 1: He knows that's who I am, right, he knows that's

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Speaker 1: what I'm all about. So she she was just dying,

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01:12:30,280 --> 01:12:32,120
Speaker 1: and it's like, oh yeah, let's go with it, right,

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Speaker 1: And that's what that's That's all that we were saying about,

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Speaker 1: following that passion, you know, getting up out of bed.

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01:12:36,880 --> 01:12:39,000
Speaker 1: I always tell people, if it's difficult for you to

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Speaker 1: get out of bed, then that means you didn't plan

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Speaker 1: to get out of bed in the first place. And

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01:12:42,840 --> 01:12:46,160
Speaker 1: so if you're smiling and you're laughing and you're enjoying,

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01:12:46,320 --> 01:12:48,800
Speaker 1: you're having fun building your dream. When you get out

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01:12:48,840 --> 01:12:50,200
Speaker 1: of bed, you can out of bed and find out

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Speaker 1: how many more cakes you can get sold. And that's

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Speaker 1: a different passion than to say, delivery I gotta make

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Speaker 1: in Galveston. That's different, Pat, Yeah, so so much different. Okay, cool,

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Speaker 1: let's go to move the next one on. But now

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Speaker 1: the ross. But now the ross no mountain, high enough, valley,

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Speaker 1: lord enough a river wild enough to keep you away

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Speaker 1: from this dessert. I love it. Exactly. Yeah, definitely. Uh,

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Speaker 1: a little tribute to the clean Diana Ross on that one. Um.

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Speaker 1: We take a Morsh banana cake and top it with

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Speaker 1: fresh bananas and a vanilla putting frosting. Try this and

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01:13:27,920 --> 01:13:30,640
Speaker 1: you'll be upside down inside out and go round and

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Speaker 1: round for more. Man, You're crazy. That is the That

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Speaker 1: is the Banana Ross. We've all we went through the

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Speaker 1: Dy Murphy, we went through the Chaco Con, which is

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01:13:42,400 --> 01:13:44,080
Speaker 1: the second name he came up with. Now with the

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Speaker 1: Banana Ross. Now, let's go on down to it. German

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Speaker 1: dupri which is Germaine Duprix. Yeah, actually lived in Atlanta

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01:13:56,520 --> 01:13:57,880
Speaker 1: for a little while, so I had to give a

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Speaker 1: YouTube The Dirty Side Out the Dirty South. Okay, you go.

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Speaker 1: You don't have to be in Atlanta icon to enjoy

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Speaker 1: this one. We take a traditional German chocolate cake and

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01:14:10,320 --> 01:14:13,320
Speaker 1: mix it with chocolate icing and a classic German chocolate

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01:14:13,400 --> 01:14:17,519
Speaker 1: coconut frosting. Tried it and we think, wow, that's hot, man,

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Speaker 1: and it contained nuts. That's hot right there, right there.

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Speaker 1: Let's go to the next one here, Lamon James. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's way James. That's my lemon cake. And I would

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Speaker 1: have loved it called it Michael Jordan's but hey, and

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Speaker 1: you know I love LEBRONI hey, my man Ron. First

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Speaker 1: of all, you know why I like Lament James a

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01:14:41,840 --> 01:14:46,040
Speaker 1: businessman Okay, he takes care of community. You know, he's

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01:14:46,120 --> 01:14:50,040
Speaker 1: fearless and uh again like you man, he says his story.

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Speaker 1: He's you know, that's saying Michael isn't pro black, but

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Speaker 1: you when you look at you, when you look at

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01:14:55,760 --> 01:14:59,800
Speaker 1: Lebron James, Lebron James stands up for his community. Fad,

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Speaker 1: my friend, he steps out there. So I thought that

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Speaker 1: was a perfect Lament James for Lemon cake. Who's perfect

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Speaker 1: right there. So so don't shy away from that. Michael

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Speaker 1: Jordan's great, but Lamar and James community and great, okay.

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Speaker 1: And then it's it's crazy at the at the Palm restaurant,

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Speaker 1: they have a carrot cake. Man the order. It's the

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Speaker 1: biggest slice I've ever seen in my life. So I

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01:15:23,320 --> 01:15:25,720
Speaker 1: always go there and get my huge carrot cake. But

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Speaker 1: see now that I can order my carrot cake online

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01:15:29,240 --> 01:15:32,679
Speaker 1: from a man brother bags dot com tell us about

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01:15:32,720 --> 01:15:36,519
Speaker 1: the Mariah Carrot which is a tribute to a tribute

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Speaker 1: to Mariah Carrey. We talked about that one. Yeah, so

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Speaker 1: that's my carrot cake. Um, true story. I was never

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Speaker 1: a saying of carrot take no, come on, nae, come

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Speaker 1: on now, come on now. I love carry I got

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Speaker 1: some carrots and I got some shredded carrots in my

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01:15:52,120 --> 01:15:57,320
Speaker 1: refrigerator right now. I love carriage man. Yeah, well, you know,

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01:15:57,400 --> 01:15:59,680
Speaker 1: I just didn't. I couldn't picture chart and cake at

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01:15:59,720 --> 01:16:02,040
Speaker 1: the same time until I tried it. And oh man,

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Speaker 1: I really like carry cakes. So when it came for

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Speaker 1: me to, um, you know, have another flavor other than

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Speaker 1: you know, the ones I already had, I tried to

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01:16:11,680 --> 01:16:15,120
Speaker 1: excuse me. I tried carry cake, came up with a

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01:16:15,200 --> 01:16:19,280
Speaker 1: recipe that I really liked, and yeah, I'm hooked. It's

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Speaker 1: probably my favorite one right now. Never see on the

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01:16:21,720 --> 01:16:24,960
Speaker 1: same page. Now see Mark, you're good people. Now, you're

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01:16:25,000 --> 01:16:27,280
Speaker 1: good people. Now okay, and then we're gonna close out.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, my brother thingy. But Eustonian man, you know,

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01:16:30,560 --> 01:16:32,280
Speaker 1: as I saw, you know, used to chronicle. I say,

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Speaker 1: I gotta get a man on the radio podcast. I'm

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01:16:35,040 --> 01:16:37,480
Speaker 1: gonna promote you on my social media, put you my newsletter.

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01:16:37,840 --> 01:16:40,680
Speaker 1: All that from an article. That's why it's important that

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01:16:40,800 --> 01:16:42,800
Speaker 1: you promote your brand because you don't know who's gonna

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01:16:42,880 --> 01:16:45,320
Speaker 1: read it, who's gonna see it. Like I said, that

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01:16:45,520 --> 01:16:48,080
Speaker 1: article got you over here, that ad got you on

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01:16:48,240 --> 01:16:50,720
Speaker 1: next Insurance, all those things and what you have to

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01:16:50,760 --> 01:16:52,880
Speaker 1: do to build a brand. It's never like because some

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01:16:52,920 --> 01:16:54,960
Speaker 1: people think you get on TV one time, that might

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01:16:55,080 --> 01:16:57,200
Speaker 1: make it. You get on the radio either, that might.

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01:16:57,439 --> 01:17:00,160
Speaker 1: You have to do it all Mark, and that's you.

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01:17:00,800 --> 01:17:03,840
Speaker 1: You didn't hesitate to have to take advantage of this

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01:17:03,920 --> 01:17:06,120
Speaker 1: opportunity to promote your brain. And I always know that

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01:17:06,240 --> 01:17:09,320
Speaker 1: that's it. You know, even if you get on Steve already,

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01:17:09,680 --> 01:17:13,000
Speaker 1: Facebook Live show, get on adding an open call, you

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01:17:13,080 --> 01:17:16,160
Speaker 1: do open you know another talk show. Car just keep

1404
01:17:16,200 --> 01:17:19,439
Speaker 1: doing more and more and more because I always tell people,

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01:17:19,439 --> 01:17:22,559
Speaker 1: if Chick fil A decided to stop advertising, people will

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01:17:22,640 --> 01:17:25,559
Speaker 1: dry about check filate and wonder what happened. You cannot

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01:17:25,640 --> 01:17:30,240
Speaker 1: stop Costco has advertised, Walmart has to advertise talking half

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01:17:30,280 --> 01:17:32,679
Speaker 1: the advertisee Because they stopped sending out those little circulars.

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01:17:33,200 --> 01:17:36,360
Speaker 1: My friend, people will stop entering their stores. Now here's

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01:17:36,400 --> 01:17:39,280
Speaker 1: the I want to talk about this one thing on

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01:17:39,400 --> 01:17:42,760
Speaker 1: your homepage because I like to be a part of this. Here, sir,

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01:17:43,320 --> 01:17:48,840
Speaker 1: it's called the raves and reviews. Now, okay, the raves

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01:17:48,880 --> 01:17:52,920
Speaker 1: and reviews have people initial Okay, I have no problem

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01:17:52,960 --> 01:17:56,120
Speaker 1: when I sample your product today, sir, I have no

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01:17:56,320 --> 01:18:00,320
Speaker 1: problem you putting my full name on here. Okay, we

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01:18:00,439 --> 01:18:03,080
Speaker 1: can't do that, you know, because I see right here,

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01:18:03,200 --> 01:18:07,599
Speaker 1: J L, q L and kJ. I'm gonna be sampling

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01:18:07,640 --> 01:18:10,479
Speaker 1: to today. I'm gonna be taking some photos. I'll be

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01:18:10,560 --> 01:18:13,080
Speaker 1: putting it on my social media. I'll be putting into

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01:18:13,120 --> 01:18:16,559
Speaker 1: my newsletter. I'll be promoting the brand of Brother brother

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Speaker 1: breaks dot com. It's b R O th h A

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Speaker 1: b A k e s dot com. My my friend,

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01:18:22,640 --> 01:18:24,200
Speaker 1: I want to thank you for taking the time to

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01:18:24,240 --> 01:18:26,559
Speaker 1: come on Money Main conversation. Let me tell you a story,

1425
01:18:26,680 --> 01:18:28,639
Speaker 1: let me tell your life. And they also let people

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01:18:28,720 --> 01:18:30,640
Speaker 1: know that if you have a dream and you have

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01:18:30,720 --> 01:18:33,120
Speaker 1: a passion, learn how to pivot. Pivot with a plan.

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01:18:33,360 --> 01:18:35,880
Speaker 1: Because he told you about one mistake he made because

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01:18:35,920 --> 01:18:38,120
Speaker 1: he didn't plan it out. But he also told you

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01:18:38,200 --> 01:18:41,040
Speaker 1: that he never stops trying, He never stopped putting forth

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01:18:41,080 --> 01:18:45,360
Speaker 1: an effort to be successful. Any closing remarks, Mark, I

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01:18:45,520 --> 01:18:48,280
Speaker 1: just want to say to people, UM, go for it.

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01:18:48,560 --> 01:18:53,200
Speaker 1: You know, Um, this has been a god bless. I

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01:18:53,320 --> 01:18:55,519
Speaker 1: talked to people all the time and they they're always

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01:18:55,560 --> 01:18:57,560
Speaker 1: talking about how you did it. I just went for

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01:18:57,680 --> 01:19:02,360
Speaker 1: it and real quick. You know, everybody has a dream.

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01:19:02,760 --> 01:19:05,599
Speaker 1: You're currently not doing your dream, so why not give

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01:19:05,640 --> 01:19:07,960
Speaker 1: it a try. If it works out, great, I mean,

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01:19:08,080 --> 01:19:10,200
Speaker 1: if it doesn't, then you're still not living your dream.

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01:19:10,479 --> 01:19:13,479
Speaker 1: But if it does happen and then it changes your life,

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01:19:14,000 --> 01:19:15,840
Speaker 1: that's all I got. I appreciate you, my friend. I

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01:19:15,920 --> 01:19:17,240
Speaker 1: want to thank you for coming on the show, and

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01:19:17,800 --> 01:19:21,280
Speaker 1: like you'll be here from me. Photos are coming your way, rave,

1444
01:19:21,400 --> 01:19:24,679
Speaker 1: reviews are coming your way, Promotions coming your way. Tell

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01:19:24,720 --> 01:19:27,200
Speaker 1: you boys to keep listening to Dad, and keep listening

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01:19:27,200 --> 01:19:29,639
Speaker 1: to mom. And tell your wife high because she allowed

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01:19:29,640 --> 01:19:31,880
Speaker 1: you to live your dream. And guess what you're gonna

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01:19:31,920 --> 01:19:33,560
Speaker 1: pay off in the end, my friend, because I know

1449
01:19:33,680 --> 01:19:36,479
Speaker 1: she's helping you. Thank you for coming on my show. Mark.

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01:19:37,479 --> 01:19:40,760
Speaker 1: And we're live here outside the Perez family home, just

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01:19:41,000 --> 01:19:44,000
Speaker 1: waiting for them, and there they go, almost on time.

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Speaker 1: This morning. Mom is coming out the front door strong

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Speaker 1: with a double arm kid carry. Looks like dad has

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01:19:49,479 --> 01:19:52,640
Speaker 1: the bags. Daughter is bringing up the rear. Oh, but

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01:19:52,800 --> 01:19:57,200
Speaker 1: the diaper bag wasn't closed. Diapers and toys are everywhere.

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Speaker 1: Oh but Mom, it's just yield the perfect car seat

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Speaker 1: buckle for the toddler. And now the eldest daughter, who

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01:20:04,680 --> 01:20:07,439
Speaker 1: looks to be about nine or ten, has secured herself

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Speaker 1: in the booster seat. Dad zips to that clothes and

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Speaker 1: they're off, But looks like Mom doesn't realize her coffee

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01:20:14,160 --> 01:20:16,479
Speaker 1: cup is still on the roof of the car, and

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Speaker 1: there it goes. That's a shame that mug was a

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01:20:20,800 --> 01:20:23,840
Speaker 1: fan favorite. Don't sweat the small stuff, just nailed the

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01:20:23,920 --> 01:20:26,200
Speaker 1: big stuff, like making sure your kids are buckled correctly

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Speaker 1: in the right seat for their agent's eyes. Learn more

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Speaker 1: social media influencing capabilities based on who she is in

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Speaker 1: her unapologetic truth as a transgender. She has become one

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Speaker 1: please welcome the money making conversation. My dear friend T. S. Madison. Hey,

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Speaker 1: come on, Mr Lake, Now, I like that. I got

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Speaker 1: I gotta call the money making man missed up. I

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Speaker 1: appreciate that. I appreciate that. Now, where are you based there?

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Speaker 1: Let's let's get everything. Let's get to the grassroots to

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Speaker 1: everything here. I'm based in Atlanta, Georgia. I'm originally from Miami, Florida. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I'm based here in Atlanta. We'll asked him over here

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Speaker 1: in Collenges, Georgia. I hear while the cows, chickens and

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Speaker 1: and goats and things out here in the country. Let's

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Speaker 1: talk about you as youwers with your career. Let's talk

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Speaker 1: about your goals. You went, you was in Florida, now

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Speaker 1: you're moving to Georgia, or it's just gonna be a

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Speaker 1: base for you, or you have New York d c's

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Speaker 1: your car, What's what's what my goal is? I do

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Speaker 1: want to I want to stay here, and I brought

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Speaker 1: a home here. I've been I've been living here for

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Speaker 1: the past. Uh, I would say about seventeen years. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I gotta I gotta break, I gotta think like I'm

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Speaker 1: forty three. I'll yeah, it's it's been about seventeen years.

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Speaker 1: I moved here. I'm getting ready to term forty three.

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Speaker 1: And um, I moved here with a suitcase and nothing.

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Speaker 1: And now you've become a dreammaker or a decision maker, influencer.

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Speaker 1: And with that being said, what what what role does

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Speaker 1: do you play having that additional influence because it carries

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Speaker 1: a burden with it. It carries a sense of people

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01:24:53,200 --> 01:24:56,400
Speaker 1: look to you when changes need to be spoken about

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Speaker 1: or a situation needs to be announced. You an influence

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01:24:59,680 --> 01:25:02,160
Speaker 1: of that level. It cares at a high level responsibility.

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Speaker 1: Let's talk about that in the community that you embrace. Well,

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Speaker 1: I'm a part of the lb GT community. I am

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Speaker 1: the tea part of the community. I'm a transgender woman, UM,

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Speaker 1: meaning that I was born male. I transitioned to UH

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Speaker 1: to preopertive. I'm PREPPI to transact the female. But I'm

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Speaker 1: I'm a woman, honey. I love it. Love it, love

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Speaker 1: it um in my community. You know, I've I've built

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01:25:39,800 --> 01:25:43,439
Speaker 1: a brand off of my social media. You know. At

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01:25:43,560 --> 01:25:45,679
Speaker 1: one point, I used to be involved in the adult

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Speaker 1: entertainment industry, which I'm noticing now due to the COVID

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Speaker 1: nineteen so many people have uh a uh think they're

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Speaker 1: told over into that industry by you know, debling, gabbling

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01:25:59,400 --> 01:26:01,880
Speaker 1: around and only fans. And I was like, wow, like

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Speaker 1: we have such big, huge celebrities, um well, big celebrities

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Speaker 1: that have started to explore only fans. And then when

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Speaker 1: you have a pew celebrity like Beyonce, uh that that

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Speaker 1: wraps and says on my demon time, I might make

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Speaker 1: it only fans, you know, And it just pushed, it

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01:26:23,080 --> 01:26:25,639
Speaker 1: just peaked it up more, you know, especially for those

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Speaker 1: people that were curious about it. You know, one thing,

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Speaker 1: one thing about me, I don't uh, I don't run

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Speaker 1: from my past. That don't hide from my past. I

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Speaker 1: feel like that you have to do. You have to

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01:26:38,200 --> 01:26:41,679
Speaker 1: um grasp your past so that you can accept your future,

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Speaker 1: you know. And a part of my past that was

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Speaker 1: that's what I did. That was an adult entertainment field.

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01:26:48,280 --> 01:26:52,720
Speaker 1: And I used to do our films, UM produce some

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Speaker 1: starry in them. They were kind of like what what

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01:26:56,560 --> 01:26:59,120
Speaker 1: people are doing on only fans now? However, you know,

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01:26:59,280 --> 01:27:02,040
Speaker 1: it's just my excite and I made money off of that.

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Speaker 1: Like I definitely that's the industry that would go to

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Speaker 1: the cars that were dealt to me at the time,

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Speaker 1: and that's the industry that I was in. You know,

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Speaker 1: I'm not promoting it, but I mean it is what

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Speaker 1: it is. Well, the thing about this that I'm not

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Speaker 1: even being negative about it. You know, I know we

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01:27:16,760 --> 01:27:19,920
Speaker 1: all go through different things in life and because like

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Speaker 1: you said, made money and we all grow because of

1583
01:27:25,320 --> 01:27:27,400
Speaker 1: the thing about it. The thing I appreciate the fact

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Speaker 1: is that you've been allowed to move on. Okay, it

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Speaker 1: is your pass, you know what I'm saying. That is

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01:27:34,760 --> 01:27:37,840
Speaker 1: what to feel that social media allows us to do now,

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01:27:38,000 --> 01:27:40,400
Speaker 1: because if you didn't have social media, you basically have

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01:27:40,520 --> 01:27:43,400
Speaker 1: trapped into that story that that's the story that they

1589
01:27:43,520 --> 01:27:45,479
Speaker 1: they can say you are, that's who you are. But

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Speaker 1: social media has allowed you to be able to say

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01:27:48,320 --> 01:27:50,760
Speaker 1: that's that's my that's far of my resume. But look

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01:27:50,760 --> 01:27:53,120
Speaker 1: at what I'm going now and look what I represent now,

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01:27:53,520 --> 01:27:55,560
Speaker 1: And this is what I really wanted to bring you

1594
01:27:55,640 --> 01:27:57,960
Speaker 1: on the show to talk about how we can get

1595
01:27:58,320 --> 01:28:00,439
Speaker 1: because a lot of people get frustrated they they do

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01:28:00,600 --> 01:28:03,879
Speaker 1: make decisions, whether it's a business decision or relationship decision

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01:28:04,400 --> 01:28:08,080
Speaker 1: or lifestyle decision, and then they feel they can't they

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Speaker 1: can't climb out of that rut. And on my show,

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Speaker 1: I tried to bring on individuals that can share some

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Speaker 1: nuggets to say, yes, I did this. I've openly confessed

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Speaker 1: I do that, but you used the new age of

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Speaker 1: branding now that allows you to have a voice, that

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01:28:24,920 --> 01:28:29,040
Speaker 1: allows you to call your press conference anytime you feel like, yeah,

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01:28:29,800 --> 01:28:34,040
Speaker 1: that's happening, you know, and and much to pig it

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Speaker 1: back off what you're saying, Like, I've embraced my past,

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Speaker 1: and my personality has always been you know, over the

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Speaker 1: top and you know, bigger than life. I've been very opinionated,

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Speaker 1: and I got into you know, social commentary and and

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01:28:46,800 --> 01:28:50,400
Speaker 1: and and blogging and YouTube and Instagram, you know, all

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01:28:50,520 --> 01:28:53,840
Speaker 1: these safes where I was able to let my opinion

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01:28:54,280 --> 01:28:56,360
Speaker 1: start to make me make money for me, make a

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Speaker 1: living for me. And I once again I the tools

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Speaker 1: that I learned in a prior life and applied them

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Speaker 1: to this one and was able to package up and

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Speaker 1: and you know, resell myself as a social media influencer. Um,

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01:29:12,439 --> 01:29:15,080
Speaker 1: half million, you are not not kind of sell yourself

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01:29:15,439 --> 01:29:19,840
Speaker 1: half million Instagram followers that more. You're doing your thing,

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01:29:19,960 --> 01:29:22,080
Speaker 1: my friend. You're doing your time, my friend. But let's

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Speaker 1: let's talk about you as a as a brand. Let's

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01:29:24,200 --> 01:29:28,280
Speaker 1: talk about the Queen Supreme Court. Did that idea come about?

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Speaker 1: It's available on podcasts. Well, the Queen Supreme Court was

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Speaker 1: originally the Queen's Court. It was something that my former

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Speaker 1: co host, uh and myself used to do together. Um,

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Speaker 1: and even though she and I party ways, I continue

1625
01:29:42,600 --> 01:29:45,599
Speaker 1: to uh, you know, re revamp the rebrand the show

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01:29:45,680 --> 01:29:49,880
Speaker 1: into you know, a social commentary show. And uh, it's

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Speaker 1: become very influential in popular car. It was always influential,

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Speaker 1: influential in popular culture, but it became you know, a

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Speaker 1: different staple in popular culture where or you know, most

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01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:02,360
Speaker 1: celebrities comming, they we we we talked about the things

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01:30:02,400 --> 01:30:04,639
Speaker 1: that are going on in the world, like current events

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01:30:04,680 --> 01:30:07,880
Speaker 1: and stuff. And you know, I shall sponsorship packages for

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01:30:08,000 --> 01:30:12,040
Speaker 1: the show. Um, My fans are always you know, supporting

1634
01:30:12,080 --> 01:30:14,080
Speaker 1: me or whatever. But the most of the biggest thing

1635
01:30:14,120 --> 01:30:17,320
Speaker 1: about it is I'm able to sell sponsorship packages to

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01:30:17,960 --> 01:30:23,080
Speaker 1: money making conversation. I love talking to you. I love

1637
01:30:23,160 --> 01:30:25,760
Speaker 1: talking to you. It was about it's about you know,

1638
01:30:26,040 --> 01:30:29,599
Speaker 1: being able to market yourself and realize their money, real

1639
01:30:30,120 --> 01:30:32,479
Speaker 1: financial opportunities that are out there. But you have to

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Speaker 1: be consistent about it. You have to be passionate about it,

1641
01:30:35,240 --> 01:30:36,960
Speaker 1: and you have to have a plan. And that's what

1642
01:30:37,120 --> 01:30:40,280
Speaker 1: you have. You have a plan and you're consistent. And

1643
01:30:40,680 --> 01:30:42,320
Speaker 1: like you said, I'm over the top, but that's part

1644
01:30:42,360 --> 01:30:44,599
Speaker 1: of the brand. If you told me it was like, okay,

1645
01:30:44,680 --> 01:30:47,200
Speaker 1: I wouldn't know about you. You wouldn't have five hundred

1646
01:30:47,240 --> 01:30:49,880
Speaker 1: thousand followers. But it's not as disruptive. It's not a

1647
01:30:49,960 --> 01:30:53,719
Speaker 1: disruptive or rude over the top. It's as a branding

1648
01:30:53,800 --> 01:30:57,679
Speaker 1: that's entertaining. It is funny and that's what we're talking

1649
01:30:57,720 --> 01:31:04,960
Speaker 1: about here, fun quality and tootainment. Information that makes you smile. Yes, Yes,

1650
01:31:05,280 --> 01:31:08,639
Speaker 1: I love you. Yes. I thought we're gonna get together

1651
01:31:08,760 --> 01:31:12,360
Speaker 1: to this pandemic doe down. They won't. You know, Let's

1652
01:31:12,360 --> 01:31:14,519
Speaker 1: transition over there. Let's transition over there because of the

1653
01:31:14,600 --> 01:31:17,720
Speaker 1: fact that we know the community, African American community, and

1654
01:31:17,720 --> 01:31:20,519
Speaker 1: we're also gonna talk about the HIV community, it's been

1655
01:31:20,880 --> 01:31:25,320
Speaker 1: just tearing up black people. Is impacting your community as well,

1656
01:31:25,560 --> 01:31:28,400
Speaker 1: Let's talk about that. Because of the fact that we

1657
01:31:28,600 --> 01:31:32,840
Speaker 1: have U we have a situation where now they're starting

1658
01:31:32,840 --> 01:31:35,000
Speaker 1: to wear they wear masks. And what role are you

1659
01:31:35,160 --> 01:31:38,959
Speaker 1: playing as far as trying to guide the proper information

1660
01:31:39,080 --> 01:31:43,240
Speaker 1: in your community. Well, in my community, you know, it's

1661
01:31:43,400 --> 01:31:48,679
Speaker 1: very important that we cover UM HIV and AID using

1662
01:31:48,680 --> 01:31:51,160
Speaker 1: the HIV and aids and things of that nature. You know,

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01:31:51,240 --> 01:31:56,160
Speaker 1: I'm always talking about UH prep. UH PREP is UH

1664
01:31:56,880 --> 01:31:59,280
Speaker 1: is a drug that that's administered the people who are

1665
01:31:59,479 --> 01:32:03,080
Speaker 1: who are actually active that can prevent them from UM

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Speaker 1: even becoming intersected with the HV or eight virus and

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Speaker 1: if And I also make sure that I've encouraged people

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01:32:10,120 --> 01:32:12,200
Speaker 1: in my community that might have been that might be

1669
01:32:12,320 --> 01:32:16,080
Speaker 1: affected by it to you know, continue to take their

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01:32:16,320 --> 01:32:18,960
Speaker 1: their medications, you know, so that they can remain to

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01:32:19,680 --> 01:32:25,360
Speaker 1: have an undetectable um UH status. And I'm no different

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Speaker 1: with the situation with the COVID nineteen, Like I'm afraid

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01:32:29,439 --> 01:32:32,240
Speaker 1: like this, this this virus, you know, popped up out

1674
01:32:32,240 --> 01:32:34,320
Speaker 1: of nowhere. I really believe that it was already here.

1675
01:32:34,800 --> 01:32:37,240
Speaker 1: And then I think we all have been affected by

1676
01:32:37,439 --> 01:32:42,160
Speaker 1: maybe back some time last year and either uh December

1677
01:32:42,320 --> 01:32:47,439
Speaker 1: November November December time frame. This this virus is over here.

1678
01:32:47,920 --> 01:32:51,080
Speaker 1: It was just our our leaders as we were all

1679
01:32:51,120 --> 01:32:53,439
Speaker 1: just want to use the word leaders, chose not chose

1680
01:32:53,479 --> 01:32:57,080
Speaker 1: to ignore it because it would have impacted the stock market.

1681
01:32:57,560 --> 01:33:00,320
Speaker 1: And so now we have a you know, when I

1682
01:33:00,360 --> 01:33:02,679
Speaker 1: look at it, you know, this is a national broadcast,

1683
01:33:02,760 --> 01:33:04,680
Speaker 1: and just let everybody know. When the April came out

1684
01:33:04,680 --> 01:33:07,479
Speaker 1: in the CDC announced that you know, eight out of

1685
01:33:07,640 --> 01:33:12,160
Speaker 1: tend COVID nineteen UH patients were African American or black.

1686
01:33:12,800 --> 01:33:15,160
Speaker 1: That was a frightening number. And then when the when

1687
01:33:15,200 --> 01:33:17,920
Speaker 1: the State of Georgia decided to reopen and that's when

1688
01:33:18,080 --> 01:33:22,040
Speaker 1: it could be reopened, knowing that information meant that they

1689
01:33:22,080 --> 01:33:25,240
Speaker 1: had no plan for that's they had no plan for

1690
01:33:25,600 --> 01:33:28,400
Speaker 1: White America to or reopened prop properly, and they didn't

1691
01:33:28,439 --> 01:33:32,200
Speaker 1: care how it affected the Hispanic community, the black community,

1692
01:33:32,600 --> 01:33:36,559
Speaker 1: any community of color. And so that really, really that's

1693
01:33:36,560 --> 01:33:38,599
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Your role in my role, my role

1694
01:33:38,640 --> 01:33:42,240
Speaker 1: as well as to be at front, I do a

1695
01:33:42,280 --> 01:33:45,680
Speaker 1: lot of interviews on h general market stations, and I

1696
01:33:45,800 --> 01:33:48,040
Speaker 1: try to be honest about this whole situation because of

1697
01:33:48,080 --> 01:33:50,599
Speaker 1: the fact that you gotta mask up, you gotta wash

1698
01:33:50,640 --> 01:33:54,080
Speaker 1: your hands. Is this you know, this is now because

1699
01:33:54,200 --> 01:33:56,800
Speaker 1: now we're sending young people out there. Thought they were immortal,

1700
01:33:57,080 --> 01:34:00,799
Speaker 1: Now they're being effected. That you have to social distance.

1701
01:34:01,040 --> 01:34:04,240
Speaker 1: You have to do that. You know, it's imperative. And

1702
01:34:04,560 --> 01:34:07,759
Speaker 1: when I see people, even in my camp, being reckless

1703
01:34:08,400 --> 01:34:11,680
Speaker 1: and and party partying and and and not and not

1704
01:34:12,360 --> 01:34:15,439
Speaker 1: taking this pandemic serious, I'm like, hey, are you not

1705
01:34:15,560 --> 01:34:17,920
Speaker 1: looking at the numbers this stuff? Like like people are

1706
01:34:17,960 --> 01:34:22,280
Speaker 1: really dying from this from this situation. People are dying,

1707
01:34:22,800 --> 01:34:25,719
Speaker 1: And like, how are you How are you not paying

1708
01:34:25,800 --> 01:34:27,320
Speaker 1: this stuff in your attention or how are you not

1709
01:34:27,479 --> 01:34:29,560
Speaker 1: following the rules of the godlines of it? You know,

1710
01:34:29,640 --> 01:34:32,680
Speaker 1: I've been in quarantine. The only place I've been at

1711
01:34:32,720 --> 01:34:37,280
Speaker 1: the grocery store at home. That's it. You know, you

1712
01:34:37,360 --> 01:34:39,719
Speaker 1: and I could be dating because that's what I do too, Okay,

1713
01:34:40,040 --> 01:34:42,120
Speaker 1: because I don't really I go to you know, it

1714
01:34:42,240 --> 01:34:44,240
Speaker 1: always amazes me t s when I go on the

1715
01:34:44,280 --> 01:34:48,080
Speaker 1: grocery store, I um, I I see people no mask

1716
01:34:48,160 --> 01:34:50,559
Speaker 1: I'm going like, okay, did you not get the memo?

1717
01:34:52,120 --> 01:34:55,160
Speaker 1: And then I've seen these videos of people white people

1718
01:34:55,160 --> 01:34:59,200
Speaker 1: angry when they've been told mask, trying to knock the

1719
01:34:59,280 --> 01:35:01,920
Speaker 1: bully their way the mall mark. I saw some videos

1720
01:35:01,960 --> 01:35:04,040
Speaker 1: where this lady took all her food out of her

1721
01:35:04,080 --> 01:35:07,400
Speaker 1: grocery bass and just threw it on the floor. People

1722
01:35:07,439 --> 01:35:12,240
Speaker 1: throw food at people. Hey, hey, they they will give

1723
01:35:12,280 --> 01:35:16,080
Speaker 1: you a mask to wear. But the problem is they

1724
01:35:16,120 --> 01:35:17,800
Speaker 1: don't want to be told what to do and and

1725
01:35:17,960 --> 01:35:20,960
Speaker 1: and right now they're feeling like that the mask and

1726
01:35:21,560 --> 01:35:25,759
Speaker 1: the social distancing and the quarantine is some conspiracy theory

1727
01:35:26,280 --> 01:35:29,680
Speaker 1: um for the government to control people. And I'm like,

1728
01:35:30,040 --> 01:35:32,080
Speaker 1: do you not see that this stuff? Like people are

1729
01:35:32,160 --> 01:35:35,280
Speaker 1: really sick and dying out here, Like I do feel

1730
01:35:35,360 --> 01:35:38,000
Speaker 1: like that they're there are small pieces of of this

1731
01:35:38,200 --> 01:35:41,280
Speaker 1: pandemic that is a little bit you know, hyped up,

1732
01:35:41,439 --> 01:35:43,840
Speaker 1: just just a bit. But I do believe that this

1733
01:35:44,040 --> 01:35:47,879
Speaker 1: is really going on because one, um, it did affect

1734
01:35:48,040 --> 01:35:51,040
Speaker 1: business for everyone, like we're working from home. Everybody's working

1735
01:35:51,120 --> 01:35:54,799
Speaker 1: from home now, and and and for entertainers like myself

1736
01:35:54,840 --> 01:35:57,280
Speaker 1: who traveled my because I traveled my show as well,

1737
01:35:57,960 --> 01:36:00,880
Speaker 1: I lost gigs, I lost the pier and says, you know,

1738
01:36:01,080 --> 01:36:03,479
Speaker 1: I was not able to you know, show up and

1739
01:36:03,720 --> 01:36:06,120
Speaker 1: meeting greet with my fans. And you know, I lost

1740
01:36:06,280 --> 01:36:10,519
Speaker 1: lots of money from speaking engagement and everything else. I

1741
01:36:10,640 --> 01:36:13,639
Speaker 1: still had to know how to survive, you know, during

1742
01:36:13,720 --> 01:36:16,400
Speaker 1: this pandemic, and a lot of people we're trying to

1743
01:36:16,479 --> 01:36:19,160
Speaker 1: find a way to survive during this during the pandemic.

1744
01:36:19,280 --> 01:36:21,960
Speaker 1: This is why some of them, as I was saying earlier,

1745
01:36:22,200 --> 01:36:26,000
Speaker 1: you know, touched into the the only fan situation because

1746
01:36:26,000 --> 01:36:27,840
Speaker 1: that was the quickest way that they could make some money.

1747
01:36:28,240 --> 01:36:30,760
Speaker 1: You know from what you know what what's what's one

1748
01:36:30,760 --> 01:36:32,760
Speaker 1: of those Rodey Hulk quote. You got to use what

1749
01:36:32,920 --> 01:36:35,040
Speaker 1: you got to get what you need. There you go,

1750
01:36:35,760 --> 01:36:37,320
Speaker 1: we we we jumped in a little bit about the

1751
01:36:37,360 --> 01:36:40,000
Speaker 1: Queen Supreme Court. Now, how do you get your guests like?

1752
01:36:40,080 --> 01:36:43,839
Speaker 1: I see Tam Tamar Braxton and who's crazy anyway? Lounell

1753
01:36:44,320 --> 01:36:48,920
Speaker 1: the original gangster of comedy Female wise? Then you okay,

1754
01:36:49,000 --> 01:36:51,479
Speaker 1: now see you get me jealous now because I I

1755
01:36:51,600 --> 01:36:53,240
Speaker 1: was able to get me lou Nell. But I I

1756
01:36:53,439 --> 01:36:56,559
Speaker 1: definitely not have no Nicki minage and no Tamar practice.

1757
01:36:56,600 --> 01:36:59,439
Speaker 1: So you're out there bawling with these guests, my friends. No,

1758
01:37:00,000 --> 01:37:02,640
Speaker 1: I've been on Nicki Minaj's show. Nicki Minaj was very

1759
01:37:02,720 --> 01:37:06,040
Speaker 1: much interested in UM, you know, producing the first phase

1760
01:37:06,120 --> 01:37:08,439
Speaker 1: of the show, and she and I continue to be

1761
01:37:08,560 --> 01:37:12,160
Speaker 1: friends after that. UM didn't work out, but you know

1762
01:37:12,320 --> 01:37:17,960
Speaker 1: she and my girlfriend. I've had Candy Burst on the show. Kay,

1763
01:37:18,800 --> 01:37:22,320
Speaker 1: oh my god, choir from American Medicine. Doctor heavily from

1764
01:37:22,600 --> 01:37:27,840
Speaker 1: American Medicine. UM. I've had a lot of social media influencers, Uh,

1765
01:37:28,040 --> 01:37:31,720
Speaker 1: oh my god, Slay Monroe, my girl flame mon Role

1766
01:37:31,800 --> 01:37:34,800
Speaker 1: has been on the show. Uh. So many different guests

1767
01:37:34,920 --> 01:37:37,000
Speaker 1: come in and out of there, and I really like

1768
01:37:37,120 --> 01:37:39,519
Speaker 1: to rotate the chair because you know, when you're doing

1769
01:37:39,600 --> 01:37:42,200
Speaker 1: social commentary, I don't want to sit there and and

1770
01:37:42,400 --> 01:37:45,320
Speaker 1: run the show on my own because I don't want

1771
01:37:45,760 --> 01:37:51,280
Speaker 1: my opinion on my uh views on something to to

1772
01:37:51,880 --> 01:37:54,320
Speaker 1: seem like it's it's the law. I like to to

1773
01:37:54,439 --> 01:37:57,240
Speaker 1: discuss and banter and throw I love joker too out

1774
01:37:57,280 --> 01:38:00,840
Speaker 1: of the a little. You can't be talking about no

1775
01:38:00,960 --> 01:38:04,200
Speaker 1: jokes until I heard you tell because you know I'm

1776
01:38:04,240 --> 01:38:07,000
Speaker 1: under the top comedians. Now. I got love for you now,

1777
01:38:07,400 --> 01:38:08,880
Speaker 1: but you can't just come on my show and say

1778
01:38:08,920 --> 01:38:11,080
Speaker 1: you're a comedian. What I mean not branding you right now?

1779
01:38:11,560 --> 01:38:14,000
Speaker 1: Once I see you'm gonna bring you back on the show.

1780
01:38:14,080 --> 01:38:19,320
Speaker 1: Go this girl funny right here? Funny. Now, I can

1781
01:38:19,439 --> 01:38:22,599
Speaker 1: use words like hilarious, you know what I'm saying, all

1782
01:38:22,680 --> 01:38:24,439
Speaker 1: that kind of stuff, because you can be hilarious to

1783
01:38:24,560 --> 01:38:27,160
Speaker 1: not be a standard comedian because you're actress and all

1784
01:38:27,240 --> 01:38:29,519
Speaker 1: that good stuff. So let's talk about let's talk about

1785
01:38:29,520 --> 01:38:32,280
Speaker 1: where do you get your celebrity gossip from on the

1786
01:38:32,800 --> 01:38:35,560
Speaker 1: on your show The Queen's Supreme Court. Where do you

1787
01:38:35,640 --> 01:38:39,160
Speaker 1: get your celebrity gossip from? Um? Well, I mean I

1788
01:38:39,320 --> 01:38:43,080
Speaker 1: pulled from a different set of places like um, you know,

1789
01:38:43,680 --> 01:38:46,320
Speaker 1: and sometimes it comes just you know, natural from watching

1790
01:38:46,520 --> 01:38:50,360
Speaker 1: watching watching watching television shows or whatever. But I get

1791
01:38:50,360 --> 01:38:51,720
Speaker 1: a lot of my gossip from a lot of the

1792
01:38:51,760 --> 01:38:53,640
Speaker 1: blog sites or whatever. But see the difference with me

1793
01:38:53,880 --> 01:38:56,720
Speaker 1: is the blog sites might report on the star. I

1794
01:38:57,400 --> 01:39:00,519
Speaker 1: will bring the star to me and go with that. Okay,

1795
01:39:01,439 --> 01:39:04,280
Speaker 1: I like that. I like that. Now. Now, now, when

1796
01:39:04,720 --> 01:39:07,280
Speaker 1: when one comes to your show, I've hollered out and

1797
01:39:07,400 --> 01:39:09,600
Speaker 1: screamed out some things on the show. But what is

1798
01:39:09,720 --> 01:39:11,600
Speaker 1: what it's really the goal of your show is it?

1799
01:39:12,080 --> 01:39:14,920
Speaker 1: Is it to educate people about your brand. It's about

1800
01:39:15,720 --> 01:39:18,759
Speaker 1: about entertaining. It's an entertainment package that you put together.

1801
01:39:18,840 --> 01:39:21,080
Speaker 1: You feel blessed to be able to present that on

1802
01:39:21,200 --> 01:39:23,120
Speaker 1: a global because it's a global When you when you're

1803
01:39:23,120 --> 01:39:25,439
Speaker 1: doing podcasts and social med you global. Now, this is

1804
01:39:26,160 --> 01:39:29,760
Speaker 1: people in China watching your stuff, people in upstair, you're

1805
01:39:29,760 --> 01:39:32,600
Speaker 1: watching your stuff, So your your global brand. I'm not

1806
01:39:32,640 --> 01:39:36,720
Speaker 1: gonna short that shot you on that, Okay, Well, I

1807
01:39:36,800 --> 01:39:39,800
Speaker 1: mean the goal of my show just to make people laugh,

1808
01:39:40,160 --> 01:39:42,240
Speaker 1: you know, we're laugh at the parts that are to

1809
01:39:42,360 --> 01:39:45,040
Speaker 1: be funny, and educate them on the parts that they

1810
01:39:45,080 --> 01:39:47,240
Speaker 1: need to be educated on, and to clear up some

1811
01:39:47,360 --> 01:39:49,960
Speaker 1: of the maths and shade you know that might be

1812
01:39:50,040 --> 01:39:51,800
Speaker 1: out in the streets because you know we are we

1813
01:39:51,960 --> 01:39:55,560
Speaker 1: are a part of the urban uh urban community, you know,

1814
01:39:55,760 --> 01:39:59,400
Speaker 1: and there are times that people there a celebrity might

1815
01:39:59,560 --> 01:40:03,040
Speaker 1: have so bad information or a bad story about them

1816
01:40:03,080 --> 01:40:04,479
Speaker 1: that they might want to come to my show and

1817
01:40:04,520 --> 01:40:06,680
Speaker 1: they might want to clear up. So you know, we well,

1818
01:40:06,880 --> 01:40:08,200
Speaker 1: this is this is the place that you can do it,

1819
01:40:08,320 --> 01:40:10,800
Speaker 1: especially with their fans can tune in and see them,

1820
01:40:11,120 --> 01:40:13,599
Speaker 1: you know, hash out some some bad rumor that might

1821
01:40:13,640 --> 01:40:16,800
Speaker 1: have been spread out. But my show is just all

1822
01:40:16,880 --> 01:40:18,720
Speaker 1: all around. I want to make sure that my show

1823
01:40:18,920 --> 01:40:22,960
Speaker 1: is it's entertaining, it's informative, and and it makes money.

1824
01:40:23,000 --> 01:40:25,360
Speaker 1: I just want to make sure that I love it

1825
01:40:25,520 --> 01:40:28,559
Speaker 1: right there. See that's what I've been trying to get

1826
01:40:28,600 --> 01:40:30,519
Speaker 1: people on the show. I would talk about money. See

1827
01:40:30,520 --> 01:40:34,960
Speaker 1: we want on the same page about the money conversation here. Now,

1828
01:40:35,240 --> 01:40:38,920
Speaker 1: here's the here's the philanthropic, the giving side that I

1829
01:40:39,000 --> 01:40:41,240
Speaker 1: want to make sure people know about you. In the

1830
01:40:41,360 --> 01:40:45,240
Speaker 1: midst of the pandemic crisis, t S has surprised families,

1831
01:40:45,400 --> 01:40:48,080
Speaker 1: friends and others with groceries and donations to help them

1832
01:40:48,120 --> 01:40:53,200
Speaker 1: through these challenging tis. Now why you know, I'm just

1833
01:40:53,280 --> 01:40:55,600
Speaker 1: saying why because guess what, how much you story it

1834
01:40:55,600 --> 01:40:59,479
Speaker 1: out like that? Why? T S? Why is that important? Well,

1835
01:40:59,560 --> 01:41:02,519
Speaker 1: it's a into me because everybody may not know how

1836
01:41:02,560 --> 01:41:05,880
Speaker 1: to slip a dollar there in a hard time. And

1837
01:41:06,240 --> 01:41:08,479
Speaker 1: and there's some people that that have relied on their

1838
01:41:08,560 --> 01:41:10,960
Speaker 1: jobs and and and what they know, like they know

1839
01:41:11,120 --> 01:41:13,200
Speaker 1: how to get up and go to work every day

1840
01:41:13,280 --> 01:41:16,559
Speaker 1: from nine to five. And this has been taken away

1841
01:41:16,600 --> 01:41:18,519
Speaker 1: from a lot of people. So you know, this is

1842
01:41:18,800 --> 01:41:21,479
Speaker 1: this is one of the luxuries that I have. It's

1843
01:41:21,520 --> 01:41:24,400
Speaker 1: been a social media influencer and an ambassador for brands

1844
01:41:24,439 --> 01:41:26,880
Speaker 1: and and things like that, and having my show that

1845
01:41:27,000 --> 01:41:29,479
Speaker 1: I still am able to make money during this during

1846
01:41:29,600 --> 01:41:32,559
Speaker 1: these times, So why not being why not help somebody

1847
01:41:32,760 --> 01:41:35,400
Speaker 1: or help a family out that that you know have

1848
01:41:35,600 --> 01:41:39,559
Speaker 1: lost those privileges. You know, you know it really is important.

1849
01:41:39,600 --> 01:41:44,000
Speaker 1: I you know, I I find myself because you know,

1850
01:41:45,360 --> 01:41:49,000
Speaker 1: I'm blessed. I haven't been able to lay off my

1851
01:41:49,080 --> 01:41:52,479
Speaker 1: staff during the pandemic and they received their pay and

1852
01:41:52,760 --> 01:41:55,240
Speaker 1: I believe in the function and not been that. The

1853
01:41:55,320 --> 01:41:57,800
Speaker 1: Lord knows. I'm not making any money, but I'm also

1854
01:41:57,920 --> 01:42:00,760
Speaker 1: planning to make money, and that's all want about money

1855
01:42:00,800 --> 01:42:02,840
Speaker 1: making conversation is. And I want to ask you about

1856
01:42:02,880 --> 01:42:05,240
Speaker 1: your your character. There was there was a question in

1857
01:42:05,360 --> 01:42:07,599
Speaker 1: your and your I don't want to bring up when

1858
01:42:07,680 --> 01:42:10,800
Speaker 1: ask about your larger than life possan. This is your

1859
01:42:10,840 --> 01:42:14,599
Speaker 1: sayings maddic. I WoT. I know you're not calling you maddic.

1860
01:42:14,840 --> 01:42:18,400
Speaker 1: You know, just transition that. Just throw that out there

1861
01:42:19,680 --> 01:42:25,040
Speaker 1: and all right with me. You said, I've always had

1862
01:42:25,080 --> 01:42:28,000
Speaker 1: a big personality, but the more I become I became

1863
01:42:28,360 --> 01:42:32,519
Speaker 1: comfortable with myself and feeling okay with whatever choices I

1864
01:42:32,680 --> 01:42:35,840
Speaker 1: make in life. Not being apologetic. The true me was

1865
01:42:35,920 --> 01:42:39,720
Speaker 1: able to be released. The reason I read that out

1866
01:42:39,840 --> 01:42:42,479
Speaker 1: is that that happens to a lot of people. That's

1867
01:42:42,560 --> 01:42:45,680
Speaker 1: that's that's a statement that anybody can say that struggling

1868
01:42:45,760 --> 01:42:49,240
Speaker 1: with identity, struggling with the path they want to follow

1869
01:42:49,320 --> 01:42:52,240
Speaker 1: in life. And I want you to just comment on that,

1870
01:42:52,400 --> 01:42:54,719
Speaker 1: because that's why I always try to be in pickle

1871
01:42:54,760 --> 01:42:57,040
Speaker 1: with shows. You know something, just because you're a different color,

1872
01:42:57,400 --> 01:43:00,160
Speaker 1: just because you make where different Uh, you're ever from

1873
01:43:00,200 --> 01:43:04,000
Speaker 1: lifestyle approach. We all think we all experienced the same

1874
01:43:04,520 --> 01:43:07,400
Speaker 1: desires to be successful, we all play taxes, we all

1875
01:43:07,520 --> 01:43:09,880
Speaker 1: want to live a healthy life, we all want to

1876
01:43:10,000 --> 01:43:12,639
Speaker 1: be loved. And that's all that statement is saying right there,

1877
01:43:13,000 --> 01:43:15,920
Speaker 1: it's a relatable statement. Just just open your blindness to

1878
01:43:16,040 --> 01:43:20,439
Speaker 1: realize that she's relatable, she's understandable, and she's passionate, and

1879
01:43:20,560 --> 01:43:24,240
Speaker 1: she cares now to talk about that that whole lodger

1880
01:43:24,240 --> 01:43:28,040
Speaker 1: than life possana and accepting yourself and not being you know,

1881
01:43:28,280 --> 01:43:32,759
Speaker 1: worried about what people thought about you. Wait you okay,

1882
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Speaker 1: so let me come back and okay, okay, that was

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Speaker 1: a good one. That was a good girl. That was good.

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Speaker 1: That was good. That's good. You slip a good joke

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Speaker 1: on man, I like that. I like that. I like

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Speaker 1: that I might like to slip slip for me in

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Speaker 1: this interview you too much? Now, Well, you know the

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01:43:55,640 --> 01:43:58,759
Speaker 1: only way to truly aspire in life is to embrace

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Speaker 1: one's self, you know. And I think a lot of

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Speaker 1: times we we even whether we're gazed straight by trans

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01:44:05,240 --> 01:44:08,640
Speaker 1: or whatever, there's pieces of us that we might not

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01:44:08,800 --> 01:44:10,880
Speaker 1: want to grasp, we may not want to accept that,

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Speaker 1: you know, especially with even even in even in our

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Speaker 1: African American community, where mental health is like a big,

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Speaker 1: big thing that that's not talked about, Like sometimes we

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Speaker 1: have to accept like I might be a little by polar.

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Speaker 1: I need to accept that and embrace it. And and

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Speaker 1: I used that by polar example because I get a

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Speaker 1: lot of inspiration from Jennifer Lewis. And you know, Jennifer

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Speaker 1: Lewis came out on Oprah and she was like, I'm

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Speaker 1: by polar and I have to, you know, medicate myself

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Speaker 1: or whatever. And and that really made me look at it,

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01:44:41,840 --> 01:44:45,160
Speaker 1: like I'm trans and you know, I have to I'm

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Speaker 1: embracing this stuff or whatever. And this is not a

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01:44:47,920 --> 01:44:50,680
Speaker 1: crutch for me, and this is not a hinderance in

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01:44:50,760 --> 01:44:54,160
Speaker 1: my life for me moving on into you know, achieving

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01:44:54,320 --> 01:44:56,080
Speaker 1: the goals that I want to achieve in my life.

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01:44:56,320 --> 01:44:59,519
Speaker 1: And when I saw Jennifer Lewis do that, I was like, wow,

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01:45:00,040 --> 01:45:02,600
Speaker 1: know this is this This just brings that statement that

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01:45:02,880 --> 01:45:06,280
Speaker 1: that I made there. It brings it all full circle.

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01:45:06,400 --> 01:45:10,560
Speaker 1: Like everybody has to embrace an extempt that part of

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Speaker 1: them selves fully so that they can be the most

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Speaker 1: magnificent self that they can be, so that they can

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Speaker 1: really really embrace themselves and be successful in their life.

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Speaker 1: Because that's the only way that you're really going to

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Speaker 1: be successful successful in life is by fully and purely

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01:45:29,520 --> 01:45:33,799
Speaker 1: embracing yourself, embracing your flogs and all embracing your past,

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01:45:34,240 --> 01:45:38,000
Speaker 1: embracing this, embracing the things that come to you, and

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Speaker 1: just knowing how to to to propel yourself forward and

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Speaker 1: and all that you do. You know, it's really interesting

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Speaker 1: as we talk and our interview Jennifer Lewis, and you

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01:45:50,520 --> 01:45:53,960
Speaker 1: know that book is a great read. Is a very

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Speaker 1: sexual book because she's very sexually active. Um, the Hollywood

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Speaker 1: A love that. Okay, Now, if you if you if

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Speaker 1: you if you're worried about reading about something, don't don't

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Speaker 1: read that book. It's not okay, she's just young. Point,

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Speaker 1: but it's about the bipolar, about accepting mental health and

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Speaker 1: all these things. Because within the black community, because you

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01:46:17,520 --> 01:46:20,040
Speaker 1: said that the black community, you know, we kind of

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01:46:20,120 --> 01:46:22,880
Speaker 1: like kick things to the curve that we really should

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Speaker 1: be talking about weight, uh, high cholesterol, high blood pressure,

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Speaker 1: which which is an impact and of our health. When

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01:46:29,439 --> 01:46:32,479
Speaker 1: it comes to COVID nineteen, it's same thing that team comming.

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01:46:32,520 --> 01:46:34,439
Speaker 1: I gotta I gotta wrap everybody into it because it's

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Speaker 1: not just us, anybody who was eating wrong and living

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Speaker 1: wrong and and have and then and winked, winked when

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Speaker 1: it came to the situation that you know, we should

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01:46:42,960 --> 01:46:46,479
Speaker 1: be taken care of. We have to start realizing that

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01:46:46,760 --> 01:46:48,360
Speaker 1: we have to change as we were trying to tear

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Speaker 1: down these Confederate statutes and take these flags out of Mississippi.

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01:46:51,960 --> 01:46:53,840
Speaker 1: We gotta start eating right, we gotta start living right.

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Speaker 1: We gotta start admitting that we are not especially men,

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01:46:57,600 --> 01:46:59,920
Speaker 1: especially black men, we tend to want to be like

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01:47:00,360 --> 01:47:01,920
Speaker 1: you know, we can want through a brick row, not

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01:47:02,160 --> 01:47:05,240
Speaker 1: if it's really brick. Now you need to realize and

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01:47:05,400 --> 01:47:09,640
Speaker 1: so and so. But the black community is always uh Shunnedah,

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Speaker 1: the truth and especially in the community that you are

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Speaker 1: part of. You know, let's let's let's step back a

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Speaker 1: little bit, you know, and Ellen de Generous, you know,

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Speaker 1: made her announcement has been so successful on TV, has

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Speaker 1: allowed a lot of truth to be spoken and to

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Speaker 1: be accepted. Now, who are other great leaders out there?

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Speaker 1: Because she gets the most fanfare, what other great leaders

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Speaker 1: that we should be recognizing that have been uh beside

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Speaker 1: RuPaul had to have to put him out there as well,

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Speaker 1: RuPaul Um, Ellen de Generous, I mean people, or I mean,

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Speaker 1: for me, there's something there's some people that we were

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Speaker 1: not I'm not gonna say suspect, but I guess we

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Speaker 1: know it's that's a part of the community that's really

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Speaker 1: not vocal about it, which I really wish, which which

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Speaker 1: I really wish they would be because it would help

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Speaker 1: more people who are struggling with themselves to be the

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Speaker 1: greatest self that they could be. I really wish they

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Speaker 1: would speak out. But you know, there's there's Billy porter

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Speaker 1: Um from posts Um, There's Leverne cock Uh, there's Angelical Ross.

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Speaker 1: You know, there's uh, there's Hopes. There there's so many

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Speaker 1: different people that are that are leaders in our community,

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Speaker 1: you know, that have embraced themselves fully. And you know,

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Speaker 1: here's the thing with me with with with black people

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Speaker 1: that I want black people to know. As a black

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Speaker 1: trans woman, I need black people to understand that I'm

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Speaker 1: black first, baby, and I'm skill black. No matter what

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Speaker 1: other umbrella or whatever um identity that I have, I'm

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Speaker 1: Black first and and yes, and I try to do

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Speaker 1: so much for my community, for my own community because

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Speaker 1: I'm black and transu and it it runs in an intersection,

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Speaker 1: it's intersectional. So you know, I just really really wish

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Speaker 1: that our black brothers and sisters would really embrace us

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Speaker 1: just a little bit more and not meet this with

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Speaker 1: lots of resistance because of suffing that that may not understand.

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Speaker 1: This is why I have to applaud you, um, you

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Speaker 1: know for even allowing me to come on your platform

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Speaker 1: and and just talk a little bit about you know,

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Speaker 1: my business and my my show and things just going on,

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Speaker 1: because lots of times they're there are black people who

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Speaker 1: you know, are afraid of you know, communicating or or

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Speaker 1: or even getting knowledge about something that that they may

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Speaker 1: may make them feel uncomfortable. But we have to know

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Speaker 1: that we're all the people at the same time. You know,

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Speaker 1: I got to bring up Laverne cox Um. She does,

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Speaker 1: she's doing that. She's transgender, right yeah, transcer and she

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Speaker 1: has an amazing spurt off commercial right now. She didn't

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Speaker 1: been on. She didn't been on a bunch of stuff

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Speaker 1: like listen, listen Laverne, Laverne is she's she's champion a

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Speaker 1: lot of things for black trans women, and her and

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Speaker 1: Janet Mark Janet, She's they've championed things for you know, uh,

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Speaker 1: trans women. It's just trans women of color. So you know,

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Speaker 1: I love them for the things that they do, and

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Speaker 1: you know, their existence is so important because not only

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Speaker 1: did it when when they champion things for for for

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Speaker 1: trans women and people in the LBGT black people. Let

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Speaker 1: me emphasize this black people, black and brown people of

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Speaker 1: the LBGT community. It also opens doors for other minorities

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Speaker 1: in the world, black people as a whole. There you go,

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Speaker 1: that's what I need to hear from you. That's what

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Speaker 1: I need to hear from. Oh. You know, I am

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Speaker 1: a fan T. S. Madison, as I like to call Matte.

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Speaker 1: She's the whole, so very popular. The Queen Supreme Court.

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Speaker 1: You know, you can come on my show anytime. I

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Speaker 1: just wanted to have a little sit down, a little

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Speaker 1: money make conversation, conversation with you and let you know

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Speaker 1: that I love you, I support you. I'm gonna be

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Speaker 1: there when you need me. And as soon as this

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Speaker 1: COVID nineteen died out, we're gonna share hamburger, you know,

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Speaker 1: hot dog. We're gonna share some food. I'm a big

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Speaker 1: I'm big foodie, so I love dessert. Just letting you

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Speaker 1: know when I throw down, I throw that out with

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Speaker 1: some grub on the regular bations. I'm gonna keep supporting you,

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Speaker 1: I mean freeing. Okay, stay strong, all right, Thank you, baby,

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Speaker 1: Thank you for having me. All Right, we talked soon.

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Speaker 1: McDonald I'm your host. By y'all. My next guest created

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Speaker 1: the Black Man Project. That's right, The Black Men Project

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Speaker 1: was a filmmaker wants of sculpture. One is anthropologists. They

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Speaker 1: travel the nation archiving the stories black men tell, a

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Speaker 1: mask and life's meaning. They're rooted in creating safe spaces

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Speaker 1: for healthy conversation, exploring the many nuances that affect men

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Speaker 1: of color. And I am a man of color. Please

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Speaker 1: welcome the money making conversations. The man behind the Black

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Speaker 1: Man Project Brian Ellison, Anthony Super and Malin Hall. Good morning. Well,

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Speaker 1: first of all, thank you guys for taking the time.

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Speaker 1: Just a little backstory on me. Um Texas native, So

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Speaker 1: I know all are born in Fifth War Texas. You

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01:53:41,960 --> 01:53:46,240
Speaker 1: know third Ward born right there, and uh graduate from

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Speaker 1: University Houston, so I know all about third Ward and

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01:53:49,800 --> 01:53:51,920
Speaker 1: and I live in Atlanta. My headquarters in Atlanta, so

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Speaker 1: I will read the Houston Chronicle every day. That's my base.

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Speaker 1: And uh, I run across a great story about the

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Speaker 1: Black Man Project, and I just felt I had to

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Speaker 1: talk to you guys. I didn't. I read the story

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Speaker 1: and went, wow, this is powerful, and I wanted to

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Speaker 1: take the time to have this conversation because I know

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Speaker 1: each one of you bring something to the story for

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Speaker 1: the overall concept to be successful. Brian on the phone,

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Speaker 1: and have Anthon on the phone, and have Malling on

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Speaker 1: the phone. Maul, and I'd like to call him Big Denver.

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Speaker 1: If y'all don't know him, that's that's that's our live side,

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Speaker 1: that's our little side, Big Denver. You know. For you know,

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Speaker 1: if you if you're hear me, just drop off in

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Speaker 1: the Big Denver. I'm really talking to Malling. Okay, absolutely

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Speaker 1: absolutely when you're big, big time man. Everybody comes my show,

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Speaker 1: Big time man. I know y'all got a big world.

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Speaker 1: I know y'all sponsored by Google and all. You know.

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Speaker 1: I'm not at Google level, but it gus. I'm good.

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Speaker 1: So let's start it off with you, Brian, tell us

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Speaker 1: about the black Man Project. And I'm just here everybody's

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Speaker 1: story because I went to the website man and I

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Speaker 1: was emotionally drawing in. I would watch the videos. It

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Speaker 1: was like, you know, wow, that the the whole guys

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Speaker 1: playing with the hold of the cotton and what its

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Speaker 1: soft and if it's just a powerful concept. So just

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Speaker 1: leaves us down that first level of the journey here,

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Speaker 1: Brian Man, the journey started with brotherhood, camaraderie. Man, The

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01:55:16,720 --> 01:55:22,040
Speaker 1: journey started with conversation between myself, Marlon and Anthony. Uh

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01:55:23,000 --> 01:55:25,640
Speaker 1: the journey started with us creating space for one another

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01:55:25,920 --> 01:55:28,280
Speaker 1: to be vulnerable at the time and in the space

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01:55:28,360 --> 01:55:31,560
Speaker 1: where we all realized that's something that we all really needed.

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01:55:32,360 --> 01:55:36,160
Speaker 1: And you know, I think we quickly understood that, you know,

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01:55:36,360 --> 01:55:39,040
Speaker 1: if we need this, how many other brothers need this

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01:55:39,160 --> 01:55:42,120
Speaker 1: and don't have a space for it. So, you know,

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01:55:42,280 --> 01:55:47,880
Speaker 1: from there the project was birth, you know, and and

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01:55:47,920 --> 01:55:50,760
Speaker 1: here we are cool. When when you still need that, Anthony,

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01:55:50,840 --> 01:55:53,200
Speaker 1: what exactly is he referenced? He said, need that? What? What?

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01:55:53,360 --> 01:55:56,000
Speaker 1: What the spirit? Because you you know, you have to design,

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01:55:56,120 --> 01:55:58,000
Speaker 1: you have to your hands me to play a major

2103
01:55:58,120 --> 01:56:00,839
Speaker 1: role in your vision. What do you mean when you say, Anthony,

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01:56:01,760 --> 01:56:03,240
Speaker 1: I mean, what do you say? Is we need to

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01:56:03,320 --> 01:56:06,480
Speaker 1: excuse me? Anthony? Yeah, it's okay, Um yeah, no, No,

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01:56:06,640 --> 01:56:08,560
Speaker 1: I mean I think what Brian is referring to is

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01:56:08,600 --> 01:56:12,320
Speaker 1: this idea that uh So again, like this whole project

2108
01:56:12,400 --> 01:56:15,400
Speaker 1: is birth around the idea of having conversations. And you know,

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01:56:15,880 --> 01:56:17,520
Speaker 1: far too many times, you know, for black men, we

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01:56:17,600 --> 01:56:20,320
Speaker 1: don't really sit down and have these conversations about you know,

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01:56:20,360 --> 01:56:22,800
Speaker 1: our emotions and things that we're struggling with on the inside,

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Speaker 1: and also this idea of taking care of ourselves, taking

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01:56:26,040 --> 01:56:28,840
Speaker 1: care of ourselves spiritually, mentally. And so when when Brian

2114
01:56:28,960 --> 01:56:32,520
Speaker 1: is talking about the need of these conversations and this project,

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01:56:32,880 --> 01:56:36,160
Speaker 1: it is something that has gone for so long unnoticed.

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01:56:36,560 --> 01:56:38,760
Speaker 1: You know, a lot of us are you know, suffering

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01:56:38,840 --> 01:56:41,160
Speaker 1: day to day and because we're so used to just

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01:56:41,840 --> 01:56:44,520
Speaker 1: moving um, a lot of times, you know, we're moving

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01:56:44,720 --> 01:56:47,560
Speaker 1: without actually going anywhere, and so we're sparing our wills

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01:56:47,600 --> 01:56:51,160
Speaker 1: in instance, when we were navigating as fathers, as husbands

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01:56:51,240 --> 01:56:53,880
Speaker 1: or whatever the situation may be. And so what Brian

2122
01:56:54,000 --> 01:56:56,040
Speaker 1: is really referring to is this idea that like we

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01:56:56,160 --> 01:56:59,640
Speaker 1: need to untap um, we need to tap into that

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01:57:00,080 --> 01:57:03,520
Speaker 1: inner self and be able to reflect and be mostly healthy. Really,

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01:57:04,680 --> 01:57:07,200
Speaker 1: you know, it's really interesting because I'm gonna to you maling,

2126
01:57:07,240 --> 01:57:09,320
Speaker 1: because I know you're in the yoga and and and

2127
01:57:09,480 --> 01:57:12,320
Speaker 1: just recently, my wife has always told me to stretch.

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01:57:12,440 --> 01:57:16,320
Speaker 1: She's and my daughter's daughter was was a professional tennis player.

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01:57:16,400 --> 01:57:18,560
Speaker 1: So they was always in there stretching, and and I

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01:57:18,680 --> 01:57:20,560
Speaker 1: walked by and go, h, I don't have time for

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01:57:20,640 --> 01:57:24,960
Speaker 1: that and in my life. And then so finally my body,

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01:57:25,240 --> 01:57:27,560
Speaker 1: my body just gave up, you know, it just it

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01:57:27,680 --> 01:57:30,800
Speaker 1: was eighteen It was like feeling bad. I felt like

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01:57:30,920 --> 01:57:35,280
Speaker 1: my age. Okay, I walked like my age and and

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01:57:35,680 --> 01:57:39,240
Speaker 1: so and I started stretching and and that's where that's

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01:57:39,280 --> 01:57:41,480
Speaker 1: that's the whole part of the conversation that we're talking

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01:57:41,520 --> 01:57:44,560
Speaker 1: about being able to provide us with additional information that

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01:57:44,640 --> 01:57:46,720
Speaker 1: can make our life better. And I have to bring

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01:57:46,840 --> 01:57:49,160
Speaker 1: that up about you because you That's why I love

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01:57:49,240 --> 01:57:51,280
Speaker 1: when I when I was doing my research on you,

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01:57:51,360 --> 01:57:53,240
Speaker 1: three guys, I read the article about you, three guys,

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01:57:53,720 --> 01:57:55,720
Speaker 1: each one you guys, it's kind of like, you know,

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01:57:56,200 --> 01:57:58,919
Speaker 1: if if if I just put you on like different statues,

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01:57:59,000 --> 01:58:03,800
Speaker 1: you affected him motion, physically and visionary, different layers. You know,

2145
01:58:04,200 --> 01:58:08,800
Speaker 1: one sees something, one shapes something, and then one goes

2146
01:58:08,880 --> 01:58:12,800
Speaker 1: inside and spiritually evolves you. And then and that's what

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01:58:12,920 --> 01:58:15,040
Speaker 1: that's what I've done. For me, to go in the

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01:58:15,160 --> 01:58:17,960
Speaker 1: room and stretch for thirty minutes. It's something I thought

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Speaker 1: I can never do because I'm one of those type

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01:58:19,440 --> 01:58:23,560
Speaker 1: of personality people. So talk to us about that. Mala, yeah, man,

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Speaker 1: you know, anthropologically speaking, you're gonna start out with the

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01:58:28,440 --> 01:58:34,760
Speaker 1: big word. I'm from y'all put up with this guy,

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01:58:34,840 --> 01:58:49,440
Speaker 1: Anthony Bryan. How do y'all awome time? Like when you

2154
01:58:49,520 --> 01:58:53,320
Speaker 1: think of like how humans evolved developed, your capacity to

2155
01:58:53,400 --> 01:58:57,840
Speaker 1: evolve is directly proportionate to your willingness to be vulnerable. Right.

2156
01:58:58,160 --> 01:59:02,880
Speaker 1: We are only as growth centered as we are available

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01:59:03,440 --> 01:59:07,360
Speaker 1: to vulnerability. And we believe that vulnerability is access to

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01:59:07,480 --> 01:59:11,400
Speaker 1: transformation for black men. Whereas we've been taught that we

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01:59:11,480 --> 01:59:14,080
Speaker 1: should move away from things that have a semblance of

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01:59:14,160 --> 01:59:19,720
Speaker 1: sensitivity or gentleness, like stretching, like crying, like accepting a

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01:59:19,800 --> 01:59:23,840
Speaker 1: compliment and giving one. Yet we are finding that the

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01:59:24,080 --> 01:59:28,640
Speaker 1: evolution of black men is in need of the desire

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01:59:28,800 --> 01:59:31,520
Speaker 1: to open up to new things through vulnerability. You know

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01:59:31,560 --> 01:59:33,680
Speaker 1: what I mean? Because we've been taught that to be

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01:59:33,760 --> 01:59:38,360
Speaker 1: strong means um to be resistant, and to be resilient

2166
01:59:38,960 --> 01:59:41,920
Speaker 1: means to be hard. But that ain't necessarily true, because

2167
01:59:41,960 --> 01:59:44,360
Speaker 1: we can flow like water from one movement in our

2168
01:59:44,400 --> 01:59:47,280
Speaker 1: lives to the next through vulnerability, and that's what we

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01:59:47,400 --> 01:59:51,040
Speaker 1: believe absolutely. My wife always tells me, so people will

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01:59:51,080 --> 01:59:53,640
Speaker 1: compliment me on my show early on when I first

2171
01:59:53,640 --> 01:59:56,400
Speaker 1: started three years ago, and I would can you tell

2172
01:59:56,440 --> 01:59:58,240
Speaker 1: them thank you when they say something nice to you

2173
01:59:58,320 --> 02:00:01,879
Speaker 1: to go? Why didn't say that? Oh? And I realized

2174
02:00:01,920 --> 02:00:06,240
Speaker 1: I was not acknowledging uh people when they would complimentary,

2175
02:00:06,360 --> 02:00:09,120
Speaker 1: because what in my mindset, It wasn't my lifestyle, wasn't

2176
02:00:09,120 --> 02:00:12,080
Speaker 1: my approach to how you do business? You know, you

2177
02:00:12,160 --> 02:00:15,240
Speaker 1: know the the interesting thing about being a black man.

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Speaker 1: That's why I was attracted to this because of the

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Speaker 1: fact that we all know how women have evolved. The

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02:00:20,680 --> 02:00:23,240
Speaker 1: best of the black female, you know, they're black female

2181
02:00:23,240 --> 02:00:26,200
Speaker 1: has always been the dominant in our lives as black men.

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02:00:26,440 --> 02:00:28,840
Speaker 1: You know that, And but the black men has seen

2183
02:00:28,880 --> 02:00:32,080
Speaker 1: they have set there and not evolved. And so Brian,

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Speaker 1: when Brian, when I look at you, and I look

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02:00:34,360 --> 02:00:36,560
Speaker 1: at it, because all through you guys look differently. And

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02:00:36,640 --> 02:00:38,800
Speaker 1: that's that's a beauty of walking in the room. You know.

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02:00:38,880 --> 02:00:41,160
Speaker 1: It means you have different stories. That means you're gonna

2188
02:00:41,160 --> 02:00:44,600
Speaker 1: send different messages different when people see you, they're gonna

2189
02:00:44,600 --> 02:00:47,800
Speaker 1: perceive certain things about you and I. And that's that's

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02:00:47,800 --> 02:00:50,440
Speaker 1: why I really I'm changing. I was just captivated by

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02:00:50,480 --> 02:00:53,960
Speaker 1: the whole concept because you three guys didn't look like

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02:00:54,080 --> 02:00:57,600
Speaker 1: three guys who might hang out. But but but you

2193
02:00:57,680 --> 02:01:00,520
Speaker 1: look like three guys who were the right three guys

2194
02:01:00,560 --> 02:01:02,960
Speaker 1: who get to get the messages I need tied to

2195
02:01:03,080 --> 02:01:05,640
Speaker 1: the black Man project? Am I missing anything? Brian? Come

2196
02:01:05,680 --> 02:01:08,320
Speaker 1: on now, I'm just I'm just talking man from a fall.

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02:01:10,680 --> 02:01:13,480
Speaker 1: That's that's a really great observation, man, And and that's

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02:01:13,560 --> 02:01:16,640
Speaker 1: really important that we are able to tap into like

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Speaker 1: all the many like angles of like a black man,

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02:01:20,160 --> 02:01:22,880
Speaker 1: like somebody being able to get me and identified with me,

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02:01:23,080 --> 02:01:26,120
Speaker 1: somebody being able to look at Marland and identified with Marlon,

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02:01:26,200 --> 02:01:28,839
Speaker 1: and the same with Anthony. Like I feel like together

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02:01:29,800 --> 02:01:33,920
Speaker 1: we just represent so many different things and black men

2204
02:01:34,680 --> 02:01:38,160
Speaker 1: and collectively, man, we have the super strength that we

2205
02:01:38,320 --> 02:01:42,480
Speaker 1: can extend bits of ourselves to them as a group.

2206
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Speaker 1: And that's really important, you know. That's that's it's so

2207
02:01:46,080 --> 02:01:50,000
Speaker 1: important because of the fact that Anthony your hands. You know,

2208
02:01:50,160 --> 02:01:52,240
Speaker 1: like here's here's a little bit about me. I was

2209
02:01:52,320 --> 02:01:55,800
Speaker 1: a former stand up comic. Uh I played a musical

2210
02:01:55,840 --> 02:01:58,920
Speaker 1: instruct b flat clarin that you know, they said, you know,

2211
02:01:59,080 --> 02:02:01,120
Speaker 1: I had the skills that an artist, but I didn't

2212
02:02:01,120 --> 02:02:03,320
Speaker 1: follow through on that. You know, guard bless me in

2213
02:02:03,360 --> 02:02:05,760
Speaker 1: a lot of different ways, and he allowed me just

2214
02:02:05,880 --> 02:02:09,040
Speaker 1: to focus where I felt my strength wor at every

2215
02:02:09,080 --> 02:02:10,400
Speaker 1: morning my life. That's why a lot of people call

2216
02:02:10,440 --> 02:02:12,960
Speaker 1: me a renaissance man because I pivot on you. Dude.

2217
02:02:13,360 --> 02:02:16,080
Speaker 1: I bake a cake, I'll give you a speech, I

2218
02:02:16,280 --> 02:02:19,080
Speaker 1: manage your talent. I produce a TV show, I'll do

2219
02:02:19,160 --> 02:02:23,080
Speaker 1: a podcast. I'm the pivot king here. Okay, I'm a

2220
02:02:23,120 --> 02:02:26,120
Speaker 1: pivot this business. What you've learned is that you gotta

2221
02:02:26,120 --> 02:02:27,760
Speaker 1: be able to pivot. And so that's why I love

2222
02:02:27,800 --> 02:02:30,240
Speaker 1: about all three of you. Guys. See, y'all can pivot

2223
02:02:30,320 --> 02:02:33,880
Speaker 1: three different ways. But I also know y'all are so

2224
02:02:34,200 --> 02:02:37,120
Speaker 1: deep that it's more to the to the to the

2225
02:02:37,240 --> 02:02:39,680
Speaker 1: title that I give you give you. You know what

2226
02:02:39,720 --> 02:02:44,200
Speaker 1: I'm saying. I know that beyond being an anthropologist, there's

2227
02:02:44,280 --> 02:02:48,240
Speaker 1: more Tomorland. There's more than Anthem you being a sculptor.

2228
02:02:48,600 --> 02:02:51,680
Speaker 1: There's more to you when I say that, when you

2229
02:02:51,760 --> 02:02:55,880
Speaker 1: get when when someone assumes something about you, and a

2230
02:02:55,960 --> 02:02:58,120
Speaker 1: lot of people assume a lot of things about black men.

2231
02:02:58,720 --> 02:03:02,160
Speaker 1: That's why I like this project. That's why I'm happy.

2232
02:03:03,200 --> 02:03:06,800
Speaker 1: I'm almost jealous. I'm kind of jealous too, because this

2233
02:03:06,960 --> 02:03:08,880
Speaker 1: is a cold thing to be a part of. Anthem,

2234
02:03:08,920 --> 02:03:13,360
Speaker 1: to come on that. Yeah, yeah, no, no, I mean

2235
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Speaker 1: it's really interesting, interesting that you're talking about that, because

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02:03:16,440 --> 02:03:18,640
Speaker 1: one of the problems with I guess the way the

2237
02:03:18,760 --> 02:03:21,960
Speaker 1: world perceives black people, which is a conversation we've we've

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Speaker 1: we've certainly had, but we've also had within the scope

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02:03:25,000 --> 02:03:27,440
Speaker 1: of the project, is that black people perceived as a

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Speaker 1: monolitht like we They perceived us as just one thing,

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02:03:30,880 --> 02:03:33,840
Speaker 1: like we just echo one tone, and I think that

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02:03:34,520 --> 02:03:36,720
Speaker 1: for us. You know, it's really interesting that you also

2243
02:03:36,800 --> 02:03:39,320
Speaker 1: mentioned you said that like when you saw one of

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02:03:39,360 --> 02:03:41,000
Speaker 1: the trailers, you said, you know, when you looked as

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02:03:41,120 --> 02:03:43,080
Speaker 1: we just we look like three different men from three

2246
02:03:43,120 --> 02:03:45,600
Speaker 1: different spears, and it almost had a sense that maybe

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02:03:45,640 --> 02:03:48,040
Speaker 1: we wouldn't just be together in a normal situation, but

2248
02:03:48,120 --> 02:03:49,879
Speaker 1: we were to write three men to have this project.

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02:03:50,360 --> 02:03:52,040
Speaker 1: One of the one of the valuable things about this

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Speaker 1: project that we always preached to is that the fact

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Speaker 1: that we're friends, like we do like together. You know,

2252
02:03:56,400 --> 02:03:59,440
Speaker 1: all three of us, we have a lot of commonalities

2253
02:03:59,520 --> 02:04:02,680
Speaker 1: that are a will beyond the surface, and we come

2254
02:04:02,760 --> 02:04:05,320
Speaker 1: from That's what makes our friendship a friendship so strong.

2255
02:04:05,640 --> 02:04:08,520
Speaker 1: That we come from different from different backgrounds, you know,

2256
02:04:08,760 --> 02:04:12,360
Speaker 1: And I mean I'm personally amen awe of these two brothers,

2257
02:04:12,400 --> 02:04:14,040
Speaker 1: Like I look at them every day and I find

2258
02:04:14,080 --> 02:04:16,520
Speaker 1: out something new or I see something different. We also

2259
02:04:16,600 --> 02:04:20,360
Speaker 1: evolve together, and so we try to implant as much

2260
02:04:20,400 --> 02:04:23,440
Speaker 1: of that essence of how we do life together into

2261
02:04:23,520 --> 02:04:26,600
Speaker 1: the project, and we invite the brothers to also take

2262
02:04:26,680 --> 02:04:30,480
Speaker 1: part in life in that same way. Wow, Malan, you

2263
02:04:30,560 --> 02:04:33,920
Speaker 1: know you know I I I sis a cool as

2264
02:04:33,960 --> 02:04:38,320
Speaker 1: sense of entertainment. Flare with you, you know you you know,

2265
02:04:39,160 --> 02:04:43,120
Speaker 1: spokesperson type skill. You know out there in the front

2266
02:04:43,160 --> 02:04:46,160
Speaker 1: of the pack. You know what I'm saying. Black black

2267
02:04:46,240 --> 02:04:48,880
Speaker 1: lives matter to you as well as the other two.

2268
02:04:49,320 --> 02:04:51,600
Speaker 1: But I feel that you you be out there running

2269
02:04:51,600 --> 02:04:55,240
Speaker 1: in front with the side running, everybody else tied. You

2270
02:04:55,360 --> 02:04:58,760
Speaker 1: still running? Why y'all tied? I told y'all to stretched.

2271
02:04:58,880 --> 02:05:05,120
Speaker 1: I told y'all to try. I tell you right, you

2272
02:05:10,120 --> 02:05:13,000
Speaker 1: brought it back. Hey, mauler, man, I really you know

2273
02:05:13,520 --> 02:05:16,200
Speaker 1: we're the time of I'm tell you man, the Black

2274
02:05:16,280 --> 02:05:21,200
Speaker 1: Man Project. Man, how timely because you know the George

2275
02:05:21,240 --> 02:05:23,880
Speaker 1: Floyd it goes on, it goes on and on. Man.

2276
02:05:24,240 --> 02:05:26,320
Speaker 1: You know, all three of us, all four of us

2277
02:05:27,240 --> 02:05:32,880
Speaker 1: cops stop us. We have concerns even before George Floyd. Yeah, Bro,

2278
02:05:33,360 --> 02:05:35,240
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. And so, so when I look

2279
02:05:35,280 --> 02:05:38,280
Speaker 1: at this project, you guys travel. The reason I think

2280
02:05:38,400 --> 02:05:41,760
Speaker 1: is important that the travel Paul conversation I'm bringing up

2281
02:05:41,840 --> 02:05:44,600
Speaker 1: is because of the fact that is it the same

2282
02:05:44,720 --> 02:05:48,640
Speaker 1: story everywhere? Bro? We thought that it wouldn't be. We

2283
02:05:48,800 --> 02:05:50,800
Speaker 1: thought that as we moved from city to city and

2284
02:05:50,960 --> 02:05:55,960
Speaker 1: context to context, from Google to a dusty barbershop in Crenshaw,

2285
02:05:56,680 --> 02:05:59,280
Speaker 1: that maybe there would be some difference in how man

2286
02:06:00,400 --> 02:06:03,560
Speaker 1: the masks they have to wear because of how they

2287
02:06:03,600 --> 02:06:07,840
Speaker 1: are seen. But it wasn't. Bro. The Googlers, these high

2288
02:06:07,960 --> 02:06:12,440
Speaker 1: impact leaders who are moving up to socioeconomics Um Ladder

2289
02:06:12,960 --> 02:06:17,120
Speaker 1: progressively had the same challenges of being black and male

2290
02:06:17,680 --> 02:06:20,400
Speaker 1: as the brothers we met in the barbershops in Crenshaw.

2291
02:06:20,640 --> 02:06:22,760
Speaker 1: You know what I mean, Um. And so what we

2292
02:06:22,920 --> 02:06:26,200
Speaker 1: discover is that this is not a problem that is

2293
02:06:26,320 --> 02:06:29,200
Speaker 1: driven by class as much as it's driven by a

2294
02:06:29,320 --> 02:06:33,760
Speaker 1: desire for a change in culture. Culture must change. And

2295
02:06:33,880 --> 02:06:36,840
Speaker 1: here's the truth, Bro, At the end of the day,

2296
02:06:37,000 --> 02:06:41,480
Speaker 1: when black men can flourish as human beings, all of humanity,

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Speaker 1: the sum total of humanity, flourishes. There are contributions for

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Speaker 1: us to make as black men when we are free,

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02:06:49,120 --> 02:06:51,840
Speaker 1: that will liberate the whole world in a unique way.

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02:06:52,360 --> 02:06:54,360
Speaker 1: And so our work is not just about black men.

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02:06:54,640 --> 02:06:57,440
Speaker 1: It begins there. Our work is to heal black men

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02:06:57,520 --> 02:07:00,680
Speaker 1: as a means to the end of bringing transformation to

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02:07:00,880 --> 02:07:04,720
Speaker 1: every human race. All people will be transformed when black men,

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02:07:04,840 --> 02:07:09,000
Speaker 1: black women, when black folks get free. Absolutely, I saw Brian,

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02:07:09,280 --> 02:07:10,960
Speaker 1: you know, Brian, I can tell he was. He had

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Speaker 1: a comment on it. So Brian, I'm not just just

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02:07:13,200 --> 02:07:14,920
Speaker 1: do your thing, brother, what you're about to say, No,

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02:07:15,080 --> 02:07:17,800
Speaker 1: I didn't. I mean, I'm in total agreeance with with

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02:07:18,040 --> 02:07:22,720
Speaker 1: Marlon Is saying I'm just your piggyback and man, so accurate,

2310
02:07:22,880 --> 02:07:28,480
Speaker 1: so true, and it's so you said something earlier, and

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02:07:28,720 --> 02:07:30,680
Speaker 1: I just really want to take that space to the

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02:07:30,720 --> 02:07:33,520
Speaker 1: space to say, you know, acknowledge the Black sisters man

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02:07:33,680 --> 02:07:38,520
Speaker 1: for yes, thank you for spearheading and just being ahead

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02:07:38,640 --> 02:07:41,360
Speaker 1: of time or being on time, because they all the

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02:07:41,440 --> 02:07:45,520
Speaker 1: examples that we follow, you know, and they've done such

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02:07:45,560 --> 02:07:48,160
Speaker 1: a really great space and creating space for one another.

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02:07:49,400 --> 02:07:51,240
Speaker 1: It would be who was not to do the same.

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02:07:51,760 --> 02:07:57,680
Speaker 1: You know, let's let's talk about the you know, when

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02:07:57,720 --> 02:08:00,720
Speaker 1: I when I see white people marching, that that that

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02:08:00,960 --> 02:08:04,080
Speaker 1: that that excites me because we can't win unless everybody

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02:08:04,200 --> 02:08:07,640
Speaker 1: understands our calls, understands our pain, try to relate to

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02:08:08,200 --> 02:08:10,560
Speaker 1: what we're sitting down. I remember, I remember after the

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02:08:10,640 --> 02:08:14,600
Speaker 1: first weekend rioting, I had like five white friends called

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02:08:14,680 --> 02:08:20,600
Speaker 1: me and they went, I didn't know, wow, I didn't

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02:08:20,640 --> 02:08:22,240
Speaker 1: know that. First they asked me how you doing? You know,

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02:08:22,400 --> 02:08:24,240
Speaker 1: because they didn't know how to get into the conversation,

2327
02:08:24,320 --> 02:08:27,640
Speaker 1: they just went, how you doing? I said them five?

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02:08:28,040 --> 02:08:32,520
Speaker 1: But what what what made me mad was that white

2329
02:08:32,560 --> 02:08:36,560
Speaker 1: people have denied who we are. You know, they won't

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02:08:36,600 --> 02:08:40,720
Speaker 1: tell people white people how we were treating this slavery

2331
02:08:40,720 --> 02:08:43,560
Speaker 1: because that's hard. It's a hard conversation to have to

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02:08:43,800 --> 02:08:45,160
Speaker 1: be sitting in the room and say, you know, you

2333
02:08:45,280 --> 02:08:49,480
Speaker 1: treated us like this, so acknowledge it with an apology

2334
02:08:49,520 --> 02:08:51,960
Speaker 1: of acknowledging with that you did something wrong with us,

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02:08:52,000 --> 02:08:55,320
Speaker 1: so we can move on. And that's the problem that

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02:08:55,880 --> 02:08:59,040
Speaker 1: the people are having in that transition because they were

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02:08:59,120 --> 02:09:04,560
Speaker 1: not educated. They went from you know, the revolution Blacks

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02:09:04,640 --> 02:09:07,320
Speaker 1: of freed in eighteen six or three, Then they went

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02:09:07,360 --> 02:09:10,240
Speaker 1: to brown versus a board of education. Then they went

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02:09:10,280 --> 02:09:12,440
Speaker 1: to the I have a dream speech. Then they went

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02:09:12,480 --> 02:09:15,960
Speaker 1: to Martin Luther what excuse me, the Civil Rights uh

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02:09:16,080 --> 02:09:18,400
Speaker 1: after I just skipped up. Yeah, so I have a

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02:09:18,480 --> 02:09:22,360
Speaker 1: dream speech. Then the Voting Right Act. Then they went

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02:09:22,400 --> 02:09:25,040
Speaker 1: to Martin Luther, King Assassination. Then they pretty much stopped.

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02:09:26,280 --> 02:09:29,040
Speaker 1: They pretty much stopped on Black history right there. And

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02:09:29,160 --> 02:09:32,480
Speaker 1: so they they talked about us participating in nothing. They

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02:09:32,520 --> 02:09:35,600
Speaker 1: didn't talk about any our inventions. They just kind of stopped.

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02:09:35,880 --> 02:09:38,680
Speaker 1: And then we had bug Wise of every February come

2349
02:09:38,720 --> 02:09:41,360
Speaker 1: out with the King and Queen calendar. That was it.

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02:09:42,480 --> 02:09:46,800
Speaker 1: That was it. That was our Black History team. So

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02:09:47,240 --> 02:09:49,720
Speaker 1: so so when I see these young people walking out

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02:09:49,760 --> 02:09:52,640
Speaker 1: there talking talking about holding the Black Lives Matter. I've

2353
02:09:53,080 --> 02:09:55,880
Speaker 1: driving down the street and this was the street. This

2354
02:09:55,960 --> 02:09:58,520
Speaker 1: a little white kids just had a Black Lives Matter sign.

2355
02:09:58,840 --> 02:10:01,200
Speaker 1: It stunned me so hard I forgot to blow my horn.

2356
02:10:01,520 --> 02:10:07,080
Speaker 1: Was what he just by himself holding up Black Lives

2357
02:10:07,160 --> 02:10:10,120
Speaker 1: Matter side in the heart of the white community. Okay,

2358
02:10:10,320 --> 02:10:15,000
Speaker 1: he wasn't. He wasn't in South soft even South Charger.

2359
02:10:15,280 --> 02:10:18,200
Speaker 1: He was right here in Buckhead with his little side

2360
02:10:18,280 --> 02:10:20,480
Speaker 1: by himself. Like you let them Sandwich signed, you know

2361
02:10:20,520 --> 02:10:23,480
Speaker 1: where you'll be flipping him subways. Mother, he just had

2362
02:10:23,560 --> 02:10:26,640
Speaker 1: his side. He was he was dancing. Black lives matter.

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02:10:26,720 --> 02:10:32,560
Speaker 1: Black lives matter. And that's why when I saw your

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02:10:32,640 --> 02:10:36,080
Speaker 1: project and and it was before the before they before

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02:10:36,120 --> 02:10:39,720
Speaker 1: the before the riots happened day, which I'm so glad

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02:10:39,760 --> 02:10:42,240
Speaker 1: they've calmed down and we're on point with the mission.

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02:10:42,600 --> 02:10:45,360
Speaker 1: The mission is to create change, so they won't be

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02:10:45,680 --> 02:10:49,240
Speaker 1: doing all that stuff. So so so Anthony, your brother,

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02:10:49,880 --> 02:10:55,080
Speaker 1: you know, Brian malland hey man, I'm so proud of y'all. Man,

2370
02:10:55,560 --> 02:10:58,800
Speaker 1: what's so proud of you? So proud of you because

2371
02:10:59,760 --> 02:11:02,800
Speaker 1: where this is the work that we do, like it's

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02:11:02,880 --> 02:11:05,800
Speaker 1: the person you are, like you are an incarnation of

2373
02:11:05,840 --> 02:11:09,800
Speaker 1: our work. So no need to be jealous when when

2374
02:11:09,840 --> 02:11:12,280
Speaker 1: I say jealous, that's a playful jealous, you know, because

2375
02:11:12,480 --> 02:11:15,680
Speaker 1: I can't because my life is my life is way

2376
02:11:15,760 --> 02:11:17,800
Speaker 1: over here, and I like to be in that barber

2377
02:11:17,840 --> 02:11:19,760
Speaker 1: shot because I've been in Crenshaw. I lived in l

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02:11:19,800 --> 02:11:21,960
Speaker 1: A fifteen years, so it's not too many places in

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02:11:22,040 --> 02:11:24,600
Speaker 1: this country. I lived in Chicago four years, I lived

2380
02:11:24,600 --> 02:11:26,680
Speaker 1: in New York two years. I lived in Life, so

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02:11:26,760 --> 02:11:28,680
Speaker 1: it's not I was a stand up comedian. I performed

2382
02:11:28,720 --> 02:11:30,800
Speaker 1: in forty two of these fifty states, so it's not

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02:11:30,880 --> 02:11:34,000
Speaker 1: too many areas I have not seen the black experience,

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02:11:34,480 --> 02:11:37,120
Speaker 1: and so so I know how I felt in each state.

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02:11:37,200 --> 02:11:39,160
Speaker 1: It was the same thing. I was a black man.

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02:11:41,040 --> 02:11:43,160
Speaker 1: I was a black man in every state, fellas all

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02:11:43,320 --> 02:11:46,040
Speaker 1: forty two of them. I did eighty cruise ship. When

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02:11:46,040 --> 02:11:47,960
Speaker 1: I walked on the cruise ships, I was a black

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02:11:48,000 --> 02:11:51,120
Speaker 1: man on that cruise ship. And that's unfair. And that's

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02:11:51,160 --> 02:11:54,520
Speaker 1: why I appreciate you guys coming together with the Black

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02:11:54,600 --> 02:11:57,720
Speaker 1: Man Project, because those story needs to be told, and

2392
02:11:57,840 --> 02:11:59,920
Speaker 1: it has to be sold a different way because I guess,

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02:12:00,040 --> 02:12:02,680
Speaker 1: for when a white person goes on the goes out,

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02:12:02,720 --> 02:12:05,360
Speaker 1: they're just a white person. They don't feel different when

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02:12:05,400 --> 02:12:08,200
Speaker 1: they're going to Papa does. They don't feel different when

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02:12:08,200 --> 02:12:10,240
Speaker 1: they go in the city hall, they don't feel different

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02:12:10,240 --> 02:12:14,040
Speaker 1: when they had stopped by the police. But black men do. Yeah,

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02:12:15,720 --> 02:12:17,960
Speaker 1: help me, guys, help me. Is that the answers of

2399
02:12:18,080 --> 02:12:19,920
Speaker 1: what we're talking about there with the Black Man Project

2400
02:12:19,960 --> 02:12:22,640
Speaker 1: burn that is, and what will happen in the world

2401
02:12:22,800 --> 02:12:27,520
Speaker 1: when that won't be the case? Like and one thing

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02:12:27,560 --> 02:12:30,920
Speaker 1: I love about James Baldwin is how he reversed, engineered

2403
02:12:31,160 --> 02:12:36,320
Speaker 1: the concept and the solution to racism. His His concept

2404
02:12:36,440 --> 02:12:40,640
Speaker 1: was that racism is not necessarily black people's problem. Racism

2405
02:12:40,840 --> 02:12:44,320
Speaker 1: is a mental illness, a mental illness that is inherent

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02:12:44,720 --> 02:12:48,240
Speaker 1: in the experience of white privilege. And so the first

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02:12:48,360 --> 02:12:52,360
Speaker 1: step to moving into a progressive phase for our white

2408
02:12:52,400 --> 02:12:55,240
Speaker 1: friends and family members who say how can I help,

2409
02:12:55,880 --> 02:12:59,160
Speaker 1: is for them to get help, to get therapy, because

2410
02:12:59,160 --> 02:13:05,240
Speaker 1: you're sick. Illness it is. It's a pandemic bigger than

2411
02:13:05,360 --> 02:13:09,120
Speaker 1: COVID man over the last Okay, the COVID nineteen is.

2412
02:13:09,520 --> 02:13:12,200
Speaker 1: We won't get into that because the fact that that is,

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02:13:12,400 --> 02:13:16,120
Speaker 1: that is stemic racism p on the five top five

2414
02:13:16,240 --> 02:13:21,320
Speaker 1: times any minority community. But recently, the last thirty days,

2415
02:13:21,560 --> 02:13:23,760
Speaker 1: we've seen a lot of changes. I want to ask

2416
02:13:24,120 --> 02:13:28,080
Speaker 1: each one of you guys or the question is this

2417
02:13:29,000 --> 02:13:31,320
Speaker 1: something that has happened that you didn't think would happen,

2418
02:13:31,400 --> 02:13:35,320
Speaker 1: would have happened or changed by but you know out

2419
02:13:35,400 --> 02:13:41,280
Speaker 1: there started with you. What the last thirty days changes happen,

2420
02:13:42,960 --> 02:13:44,960
Speaker 1: What shocked you the most? And one of the things

2421
02:13:45,000 --> 02:13:51,920
Speaker 1: that change. That's a loaded question, man. But if I

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02:13:52,000 --> 02:13:57,000
Speaker 1: had to pinpoint one thing, I don't know this brother's

2423
02:13:57,120 --> 02:13:59,680
Speaker 1: name and it's I mean, honestly, it's it's no one

2424
02:13:59,760 --> 02:14:02,120
Speaker 1: thing and that tops the other. But this is what's

2425
02:14:02,320 --> 02:14:06,000
Speaker 1: like the thing that's from my mind. This brother in Mississippi,

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02:14:06,080 --> 02:14:10,920
Speaker 1: he played for Old Myths or Mississippi State running back

2427
02:14:10,960 --> 02:14:13,880
Speaker 1: and he's like, man, if y'all don't change this flag,

2428
02:14:13,960 --> 02:14:18,280
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna play it. No. Now, you know, we

2429
02:14:18,480 --> 02:14:22,600
Speaker 1: know that for these colleges, these black athletes, they are

2430
02:14:22,720 --> 02:14:27,040
Speaker 1: the money for him to stand in that space, and

2431
02:14:27,240 --> 02:14:30,920
Speaker 1: all the remarks that came back to him, um that

2432
02:14:31,040 --> 02:14:34,960
Speaker 1: were so ugly, so negative, But he stood in the

2433
02:14:35,080 --> 02:14:37,280
Speaker 1: space where a lot of people would have been afraid

2434
02:14:37,360 --> 02:14:40,720
Speaker 1: to and I blocked, brother man, because now they are

2435
02:14:40,960 --> 02:14:44,200
Speaker 1: in the process of doing just that. You know, and

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02:14:44,320 --> 02:14:47,160
Speaker 1: you said it earlier, like we you thought that Barack

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02:14:47,200 --> 02:14:50,520
Speaker 1: Obama being president would be the thing that you know,

2438
02:14:51,200 --> 02:14:53,920
Speaker 1: would be the highlight of your life. Right, But you

2439
02:14:54,040 --> 02:14:57,240
Speaker 1: have a state like Mississippi which is rooted in the

2440
02:14:57,320 --> 02:15:01,160
Speaker 1: most extreme racism that you know. To think of the

2441
02:15:02,000 --> 02:15:08,040
Speaker 1: flag that is um rooted in oppression of black people,

2442
02:15:09,640 --> 02:15:16,400
Speaker 1: I just think that that itself is pretty pretty amazing, Anthony,

2443
02:15:19,720 --> 02:15:22,440
Speaker 1: Sorry me myself, My kids are up and running around.

2444
02:15:23,040 --> 02:15:27,400
Speaker 1: Um uh yeah, man, I mean I I did. There

2445
02:15:27,480 --> 02:15:31,240
Speaker 1: certainly has been a large swell of where you see

2446
02:15:31,240 --> 02:15:33,680
Speaker 1: a lot of the athletes speaking out, you know, Bubba

2447
02:15:33,720 --> 02:15:36,600
Speaker 1: Wallace being one of NASCAR. So I'll just pick you

2448
02:15:36,640 --> 02:15:38,120
Speaker 1: back in the Brian But I think man, for me,

2449
02:15:38,320 --> 02:15:42,760
Speaker 1: like what really stands out is uh man, white white accompasses.

2450
02:15:43,360 --> 02:15:45,160
Speaker 1: You know, like for so long people use this this

2451
02:15:45,280 --> 02:15:49,280
Speaker 1: word ally, you know, to describe the the Eurocentral brothers

2452
02:15:49,320 --> 02:15:52,280
Speaker 1: and sisters who are who have been quote unquote down

2453
02:15:52,360 --> 02:15:55,440
Speaker 1: for the cause. And we already know that uh you know, um,

2454
02:15:55,960 --> 02:15:59,240
Speaker 1: you know, action or or or wanting to see change

2455
02:15:59,320 --> 02:16:01,920
Speaker 1: is dead without had they actual action behind it. So

2456
02:16:02,040 --> 02:16:03,960
Speaker 1: now I'm starting to see these accomplices. I mean, we

2457
02:16:04,040 --> 02:16:07,080
Speaker 1: got to the point where during the height of the protests,

2458
02:16:07,120 --> 02:16:10,080
Speaker 1: we saw whole assemblies where it was nothing for white people.

2459
02:16:11,960 --> 02:16:14,280
Speaker 1: You know, that was that was so amazing to me,

2460
02:16:14,560 --> 02:16:16,480
Speaker 1: you know, to see you know, so many of our

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02:16:17,280 --> 02:16:19,840
Speaker 1: I keep saying accomplices, you know, ready to go out here,

2462
02:16:19,840 --> 02:16:21,120
Speaker 1: and they were ready to put in and work for

2463
02:16:21,320 --> 02:16:23,720
Speaker 1: the cause of the black men. So to me, that

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02:16:23,840 --> 02:16:26,120
Speaker 1: was something I don't I don't think I would have

2465
02:16:26,200 --> 02:16:29,640
Speaker 1: ever seen, you know, um, you know, growing up seeing

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02:16:30,040 --> 02:16:32,440
Speaker 1: uh many of these things go on. You know, you

2467
02:16:32,600 --> 02:16:35,240
Speaker 1: just never saw that many white people ready to take up,

2468
02:16:35,640 --> 02:16:37,720
Speaker 1: you know, the cause of black people and people of

2469
02:16:37,800 --> 02:16:40,720
Speaker 1: color around the world, especially for black men and black

2470
02:16:40,760 --> 02:16:43,120
Speaker 1: women out here being killed. And so that was the

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02:16:43,600 --> 02:16:46,840
Speaker 1: that was to me, that was that was pivotal. Thank

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02:16:46,879 --> 02:16:51,080
Speaker 1: you Mom. Yeah, I think the same thing like you

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02:16:51,160 --> 02:16:54,320
Speaker 1: know I was. I do teach yoga. I am a yogi.

2474
02:16:54,840 --> 02:16:57,040
Speaker 1: And one of the things that we believe is that

2475
02:16:57,240 --> 02:17:01,040
Speaker 1: we make investments in our country business. You know, we

2476
02:17:01,160 --> 02:17:03,000
Speaker 1: so see you see time and harvest you so see

2477
02:17:03,040 --> 02:17:05,760
Speaker 1: you grow a plant. And one of the things that

2478
02:17:05,840 --> 02:17:08,200
Speaker 1: surprised me that I never thought would happen is that

2479
02:17:08,280 --> 02:17:11,320
Speaker 1: the conversation I've been hoping to have with my yogi's

2480
02:17:11,480 --> 02:17:13,400
Speaker 1: been having with my yogis that I'm hoping for them

2481
02:17:13,440 --> 02:17:18,120
Speaker 1: to receive is that white privilege. Um, if you gave

2482
02:17:18,240 --> 02:17:20,960
Speaker 1: up half of your white privilege, you would still have

2483
02:17:21,200 --> 02:17:24,800
Speaker 1: enough white privilege for about three generations, you know. And

2484
02:17:24,879 --> 02:17:28,400
Speaker 1: so I've been inviting my white yogis and conscious friends

2485
02:17:29,000 --> 02:17:31,959
Speaker 1: to see giving up half of their privilege as an

2486
02:17:32,080 --> 02:17:37,200
Speaker 1: investment in their consciousness. And it's happening, like people are

2487
02:17:37,240 --> 02:17:41,240
Speaker 1: become are becoming keenly aware that they are responsible to

2488
02:17:41,400 --> 02:17:44,320
Speaker 1: be anti racist, which is what a lot of white

2489
02:17:44,360 --> 02:17:46,840
Speaker 1: folks are saying. And one thing that I've been sharing

2490
02:17:46,879 --> 02:17:49,440
Speaker 1: with them is that it's even a privilege to be

2491
02:17:49,520 --> 02:17:53,119
Speaker 1: anti racist, because if I'm anti racist, I become a martyr.

2492
02:17:53,959 --> 02:17:56,640
Speaker 1: I can get killed. When they become an anti racist,

2493
02:17:56,720 --> 02:18:00,200
Speaker 1: they become moralist. So that's what it's like to me,

2494
02:18:00,320 --> 02:18:04,760
Speaker 1: is that people are gaining moral ground and spiritual consciousness

2495
02:18:04,800 --> 02:18:07,959
Speaker 1: who are white by investing their privilege. And I'm grateful,

2496
02:18:09,160 --> 02:18:12,720
Speaker 1: well you know, um, you know, um, I'm moved by you,

2497
02:18:12,879 --> 02:18:17,320
Speaker 1: three gentlemen. I am emotionally moved because of the fact that, um,

2498
02:18:18,360 --> 02:18:22,360
Speaker 1: you guys, my voice, you you you, you're telling stories.

2499
02:18:22,879 --> 02:18:24,800
Speaker 1: When I look back in my life, sometimes I wish

2500
02:18:24,800 --> 02:18:26,880
Speaker 1: I would have had a camera on my life a

2501
02:18:27,000 --> 02:18:31,080
Speaker 1: lot more. Just it can be a still camera or

2502
02:18:31,240 --> 02:18:35,360
Speaker 1: video camera. Because but so when I heard about you guys,

2503
02:18:35,440 --> 02:18:39,800
Speaker 1: the Black Man Project documenting and brother what for a

2504
02:18:39,920 --> 02:18:43,880
Speaker 1: great time to be documenting brothers, Brian Anthony Marler, What

2505
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Speaker 1: a great time, what a beauty, what a blessed time

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