1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,719 Speaker 1: Am I the a hole for evicting my husband after 2 00:00:02,800 --> 00:00:07,000 Speaker 1: finding the nanny's nudes? No, you should This guy from 3 00:00:07,160 --> 00:00:08,960 Speaker 1: Icy Cable three, two sixty seven. 4 00:00:11,480 --> 00:00:12,440 Speaker 2: Not perfectly enough. 5 00:00:12,680 --> 00:00:15,239 Speaker 1: I'm new to Reddit, but my little sister suggested I 6 00:00:15,280 --> 00:00:18,680 Speaker 1: asked here. I'm a twenty eight female, my daughter is Cassie, 7 00:00:18,680 --> 00:00:21,319 Speaker 1: eleven months, and my husband is Alex thirty five. So 8 00:00:21,360 --> 00:00:24,200 Speaker 1: basically it's just what the title said. I had Cassie 9 00:00:24,239 --> 00:00:26,400 Speaker 1: and the return to work. I'm a psychologist as I 10 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:28,440 Speaker 1: could never be a stay at home mom. I'm actually 11 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:31,160 Speaker 1: French but live in the US, so when I returned 12 00:00:31,200 --> 00:00:33,520 Speaker 1: at the four month mark, I had a difficult birth. 13 00:00:33,560 --> 00:00:36,160 Speaker 1: We looked around to find a nanny to look after 14 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:39,320 Speaker 1: Cassie whilst myself and Alex were at work. 15 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:41,479 Speaker 3: Whilst what kind of nanny? 16 00:00:42,040 --> 00:00:43,560 Speaker 1: That's how you know their fancy when they have a 17 00:00:43,680 --> 00:00:44,680 Speaker 1: nanny and they say Wilson. 18 00:00:44,720 --> 00:00:50,239 Speaker 4: Still, she had said a pair. French mothers have pairs. 19 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:51,120 Speaker 3: That is true. 20 00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:53,800 Speaker 1: Oh my. We saw a few girls, but then one 21 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:57,680 Speaker 1: of Alex's colleagues suggested his daughter, who had dropped out 22 00:00:57,720 --> 00:01:02,000 Speaker 1: of college, let's call her live twenty female. Everything went well, 23 00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:06,000 Speaker 1: Admittedly I did notice her being quite attached to Cassie, 24 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:08,400 Speaker 1: but I broshed it off as a good friendship between 25 00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:12,080 Speaker 1: the two. And again, that's Cassie eleven months. 26 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:16,760 Speaker 4: Wait, Cassie eleven months baby, because she was holding my 27 00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:17,760 Speaker 4: baby a lot. 28 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:21,240 Speaker 1: A little too much. Yeah, I want you to just 29 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:26,920 Speaker 1: drop drop my baby. Yeah, ignore my baby. I'm getting 30 00:01:26,959 --> 00:01:32,160 Speaker 1: I'm getting little jealous. Come on that baby, I am. 31 00:01:32,319 --> 00:01:34,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, that is a thing where like kids, you babysit 32 00:01:34,680 --> 00:01:35,400 Speaker 4: will callll you mom. 33 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:37,880 Speaker 1: You're like, have you been called momah by a child? 34 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:38,440 Speaker 4: Yeah? 35 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:44,319 Speaker 1: That's crazy, that's nuts. Yeah, everything went well. Admittedly I 36 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:46,720 Speaker 1: did notice her being quite attached to Cassie, but I 37 00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:48,840 Speaker 1: brushed it off as a good friendship between the two. 38 00:01:49,240 --> 00:01:54,360 Speaker 1: She also liked Alex. Alex is the husband thirty five. 39 00:01:54,440 --> 00:01:56,760 Speaker 4: To be established how old Cassie was, she's not. 40 00:01:56,720 --> 00:02:00,480 Speaker 1: A baby's eleven months, she's I. 41 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 4: Thought you were joking. 42 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 1: No, my daughter's Cassie eleven months and my husband is 43 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:04,440 Speaker 1: Alex thirty five. 44 00:02:05,440 --> 00:02:07,720 Speaker 4: Okay, I don't understand. 45 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 1: She also liked Alex. It was obvious she had a 46 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:17,960 Speaker 1: crush on him, always batting her lashes and giggling. I 47 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:20,960 Speaker 1: actually found it amusing, as I'm confident in myself. He 48 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:23,280 Speaker 1: always laughed it off with me too, But then on 49 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:26,120 Speaker 1: Thursday night he asked me to do something on his 50 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:30,280 Speaker 1: phone whilst he bathed Cassie, and I saw some pictures 51 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 1: flash up from lift. 52 00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:34,320 Speaker 4: No flashing pictures. 53 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:39,359 Speaker 1: When I looked at them, they were obviously sexy nude, 54 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:41,080 Speaker 1: not just news. 55 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:42,160 Speaker 3: They were sexy ud. 56 00:02:44,040 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 1: She was wearing skimpy lingerie and in provocative poses. I 57 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:50,920 Speaker 1: looked back at the history and she had been sending 58 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:52,799 Speaker 1: these for a while. 59 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 3: Oh my god. 60 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:57,880 Speaker 1: As far as I can see, Alex has never responded, 61 00:02:58,040 --> 00:03:00,840 Speaker 1: but obviously texts can be deleted. When I asked him, 62 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:02,880 Speaker 1: he got defensive and told me to stop using my 63 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:04,240 Speaker 1: psychiatrist tricks on. 64 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:06,960 Speaker 3: Me. 65 00:03:07,160 --> 00:03:10,679 Speaker 1: Yes, I've just been receiving nudes from a twenty year old. 66 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:15,000 Speaker 1: I'm stop asking questions like why. 67 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:16,680 Speaker 3: Are you receiving dudes from this person? 68 00:03:16,880 --> 00:03:18,480 Speaker 1: And why haven't you said it anything. 69 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 3: Just because I'm in the wrong doesn't mean you should 70 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:21,840 Speaker 3: tell me I am. 71 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:27,280 Speaker 1: It's like text stop to stop the space, stop nudes. 72 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:30,200 Speaker 1: I was not happy with his non answers, and it 73 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:34,280 Speaker 1: ended up in a shouting match. Waking Casey no or 74 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:37,640 Speaker 1: Cassie sorry, Waking Cassie, not the baby. So I got 75 00:03:37,720 --> 00:03:40,200 Speaker 1: him a bag and threw him out good. Told him 76 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 1: he's not welcome back until I have some answers. I'm 77 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:45,760 Speaker 1: considering taking Cassie back home to see my family in 78 00:03:45,760 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 1: France for a bit. His mother and friends have been 79 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 1: blowing up my phone saying I'm being too harsh and 80 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:54,000 Speaker 1: they were just harmless nude texts. Nevertheless, I feel disrespected 81 00:03:54,320 --> 00:03:56,320 Speaker 1: and that doesn't fly with me. Was I too harsh? 82 00:03:56,360 --> 00:03:59,760 Speaker 1: Should I accept his claims that he just never responded? Edit? 83 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:03,160 Speaker 1: Not husband fiance? Also, I'm not taking Cassie to France. 84 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:05,120 Speaker 1: We will visit my family for a few weeks and 85 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 1: Alex has given consent and I post an update, and 86 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:10,680 Speaker 1: there is an update. There are also some relevant comments 87 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:13,360 Speaker 1: where Oki is responding. But what do we think so far? 88 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:16,919 Speaker 1: Is the husband innocent? You are sorry? If? Is the 89 00:04:16,960 --> 00:04:20,880 Speaker 1: fiance innocent? If you don't respond to a nude? Did 90 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:24,960 Speaker 1: you receive it? If DMS and you don't look at it, 91 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:26,679 Speaker 1: is it still a nude that you were given? 92 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:29,839 Speaker 4: Is a closed box? Is it alive or dead? 93 00:04:31,680 --> 00:04:33,760 Speaker 1: I have a question. So someone sends you a bunch 94 00:04:33,760 --> 00:04:35,080 Speaker 1: of nudes and you don't look at them. Is that 95 00:04:35,279 --> 00:04:36,200 Speaker 1: is that? Is that okay? 96 00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:38,279 Speaker 4: But no, he did look at them, you know, he 97 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 4: looked at them. 98 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:40,320 Speaker 1: He never responded, but. 99 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:42,760 Speaker 4: He had to have looked at one of them. Why 100 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:46,359 Speaker 4: because he's been getting all of these these texts and 101 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:47,160 Speaker 4: he was just like. 102 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:50,680 Speaker 1: Oh, one time, just one time, a while ago, I 103 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:53,400 Speaker 1: got a flurry of dick pics that I never responded to. 104 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:55,200 Speaker 3: But you how do you know they were dick pics 105 00:04:55,320 --> 00:04:59,520 Speaker 3: because I looked the flurry happened. 106 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:03,039 Speaker 1: The but happened, and then I look. 107 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:05,440 Speaker 4: No, that's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. 108 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:06,919 Speaker 1: Maybe she was the one to look. 109 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:07,919 Speaker 3: She opened up. 110 00:05:07,920 --> 00:05:10,240 Speaker 4: The had to have looked, because he had to have 111 00:05:10,279 --> 00:05:13,679 Speaker 4: been like, well, this is my this is my daughter's nanny. 112 00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:16,800 Speaker 4: She's probably sending me something important. And he looks he's like, 113 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 4: oh my god, it's a nude. And maybe maybe maybe 114 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:22,599 Speaker 4: he's like, oh my god, it's a nude? What is this? 115 00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:25,000 Speaker 4: And then he puts it away. He's he's in a 116 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:26,800 Speaker 4: huff and he's like, should I tell my wife? He 117 00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:29,440 Speaker 4: doesn't fiance. He's like no, and he's like, it's just 118 00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:34,680 Speaker 4: a one time thing. Happens again. He's like, oh, he 119 00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:36,880 Speaker 4: puts it down, he doesn't look at it. Happens again, 120 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:38,960 Speaker 4: he looks at it. This time he's like, I'm not 121 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 4: telling my wife. 122 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:40,560 Speaker 3: It's a secret. 123 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:43,440 Speaker 4: I'm taking it to my grave. The nanny knows he's 124 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:47,480 Speaker 4: into it. They've been sharing flirty glances in the kitchen. Well, 125 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:48,680 Speaker 4: she's attached to the. 126 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:55,600 Speaker 3: Lingerie. 127 00:05:56,040 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 4: That's my case. 128 00:05:56,839 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 3: Wow, that's a pretty good case. You would see it 129 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:03,480 Speaker 3: in the unread messages list. Yeah, the unread messages with 130 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:06,040 Speaker 3: probably a picture like oh you got a picture? 131 00:06:06,080 --> 00:06:08,600 Speaker 1: Just it could just say he could not have like 132 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:11,840 Speaker 1: receipts on where it just has Oh, someone sent you 133 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:12,240 Speaker 1: an image. 134 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:14,000 Speaker 3: I don't think there's a chance that he hasn't seen it. 135 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:16,839 Speaker 4: No, he also never said that he didn't. He never 136 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:18,760 Speaker 4: like said that he didn't see it. He just said 137 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:20,520 Speaker 4: that I never responded. 138 00:06:20,279 --> 00:06:26,719 Speaker 1: Which is incriminating. I think it's incriminating because you should say, hey, 139 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:28,039 Speaker 1: stop and you. 140 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:30,200 Speaker 3: Should tell you what did you go immediately to your wife? 141 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:34,599 Speaker 4: Yeah? Look, you say look at the Yeah, you go 142 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:36,800 Speaker 4: immediately to your wife. You say I'm sorry, I'm not 143 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:39,159 Speaker 4: comfortable with this woman in her house. Get her gone. 144 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:41,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, it seems like he was too comfortable. What do 145 00:06:41,279 --> 00:06:42,719 Speaker 1: you think, what would you do? What would you like 146 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:45,040 Speaker 1: him to do? But let's get into these comments. So 147 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:47,479 Speaker 1: the very first time she did that, he should have 148 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:49,960 Speaker 1: showed it to you, yeah, he said, And the two 149 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:52,279 Speaker 1: of you should have discussed what to do, which should 150 00:06:52,279 --> 00:06:57,240 Speaker 1: have included terminating her employment at your nanny or engaging 151 00:06:57,279 --> 00:07:02,960 Speaker 1: into some kind of thresome. Oh I'm kidding, lies, I 152 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:06,200 Speaker 1: was like, what, believe me, I've sent scathing messages of 153 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:08,279 Speaker 1: dismissal to her and her father. 154 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:15,000 Speaker 4: It's also the friend. This is like the father was Yeah, 155 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:15,880 Speaker 4: which is even more. 156 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:21,560 Speaker 1: That's so cringe. God comment, you're not wrong. He went 157 00:07:21,640 --> 00:07:23,800 Speaker 1: behind your back by not telling you about the nudes. 158 00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:25,880 Speaker 1: I would not allow to live to babysit anymore. It's 159 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:28,120 Speaker 1: honestly weird that someone her age would try to seduce 160 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:31,520 Speaker 1: your husband, who is thirty five years old. It happens often, though, 161 00:07:31,600 --> 00:07:35,120 Speaker 1: and even weirder that your husband didn't say anything about it. 162 00:07:35,160 --> 00:07:38,320 Speaker 1: I think it's like it's weird on both ends. Yeah, 163 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:41,960 Speaker 1: but it does happen. Yeah, there's clearly something going on 164 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:44,680 Speaker 1: between them, and I would force him to admit the 165 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:46,960 Speaker 1: truth to you. It doesn't even matter if he responded 166 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:48,960 Speaker 1: to her picks or not, he still broke your trust 167 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:52,440 Speaker 1: by not informing you about it facts, he says, thank you. Yes, 168 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:55,800 Speaker 1: I'm suspicious. We have a camera in Cassie's nursery, so 169 00:07:55,920 --> 00:07:58,000 Speaker 1: I'm going to look over the footage. 170 00:07:58,800 --> 00:08:06,200 Speaker 3: She took the pictures wildst wild Will next to said baby. 171 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:07,840 Speaker 1: That would be crazy, would be he? 172 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:08,400 Speaker 4: Actually? 173 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:10,360 Speaker 1: I think? But they are really close friends. 174 00:08:10,520 --> 00:08:11,960 Speaker 4: I think she could get arrested for that. 175 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:16,080 Speaker 1: Probably probably comment there's nothing harmless in that behavior. You 176 00:08:16,160 --> 00:08:20,000 Speaker 1: have been betrayed that he tolerated is enough. Where were 177 00:08:20,080 --> 00:08:23,040 Speaker 1: the text telling her he was a married man in love, 178 00:08:23,120 --> 00:08:26,320 Speaker 1: a father, her dad's friend, and that this was her 179 00:08:26,440 --> 00:08:29,080 Speaker 1: last two weeks. Why did he immediately jump to accusing 180 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 1: you of tricks? I would have fired the nanny told 181 00:08:32,040 --> 00:08:35,360 Speaker 1: Hubb's friend exactly why, and then watched his reactions. You're 182 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:38,040 Speaker 1: not wrong. I'm sorry your husband cheated on you by 183 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:41,439 Speaker 1: continuing to accept these pictures. I'm sorry he allowed that 184 00:08:41,520 --> 00:08:44,000 Speaker 1: person access to your home and your whole family. Ope, 185 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:46,840 Speaker 1: he responds, thank you. Yes, I fired her with immediate effect, 186 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:48,760 Speaker 1: and the father has been texted. And one more comment 187 00:08:48,760 --> 00:08:49,720 Speaker 1: before we get into the update. 188 00:08:49,760 --> 00:08:50,320 Speaker 3: You were not wrong. 189 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:52,760 Speaker 1: This is horrible, he should have told you with the 190 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 1: first photo, and then nanny should have been fired. I 191 00:08:54,880 --> 00:08:57,360 Speaker 1: absolutely think there is more going on here, which we 192 00:08:57,480 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 1: also believe, which is why he's gaslighting you. You said 193 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:03,160 Speaker 1: her father is your husband's colleague. Well, I would be 194 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:05,960 Speaker 1: reaching out to him, letting him know, and then firing her. 195 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:10,280 Speaker 1: So it's like letting the husband's friend know that there 196 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:12,240 Speaker 1: might be something going on with the daughter dropped the bomb. 197 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:15,079 Speaker 1: I find it hard to believe that he never responded. 198 00:09:15,400 --> 00:09:17,439 Speaker 1: Why not mention it to you? Then I would not 199 00:09:17,559 --> 00:09:19,880 Speaker 1: be okay with this situation at all. You know what? 200 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:20,880 Speaker 1: You know what? 201 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:23,480 Speaker 4: He deleted his response. 202 00:09:23,559 --> 00:09:27,160 Speaker 1: He deleted his responses, but not the pictures because he 203 00:09:27,240 --> 00:09:28,320 Speaker 1: wanted to look back at them. 204 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:31,439 Speaker 4: Yeah, nice job, idiot, stupid. 205 00:09:32,040 --> 00:09:33,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's so dumb. 206 00:09:33,280 --> 00:09:34,280 Speaker 3: Yep, that's what he did. 207 00:09:35,559 --> 00:09:36,040 Speaker 4: That's what he did. 208 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:38,719 Speaker 1: I hope he responds. I messaged her father earlier and 209 00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:41,679 Speaker 1: it meant to update saying that. He replied, confused but disappointed. 210 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:43,599 Speaker 1: He apologized a lot and said he will talk to 211 00:09:43,679 --> 00:09:46,360 Speaker 1: his wife about what to do next. But that's their issue. 212 00:09:46,760 --> 00:09:49,200 Speaker 1: And there is a big but juicy up. 213 00:09:49,280 --> 00:09:52,000 Speaker 3: Oh my goshday to get into it. 214 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:53,920 Speaker 1: Boys and girls, let's do it, and I want to 215 00:09:53,960 --> 00:09:56,000 Speaker 1: know before we get into this update. Come up below 216 00:09:56,040 --> 00:09:58,320 Speaker 1: what you would do in the situation? Would you divorce 217 00:09:58,400 --> 00:10:01,280 Speaker 1: the husband? And if you were the husband, would you 218 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:03,600 Speaker 1: what would you tell the nanny and your wife? Let 219 00:10:03,679 --> 00:10:06,319 Speaker 1: us know the comments update. I like to start this 220 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:09,800 Speaker 1: off by addressing the comments stating I'm kidnapping my daughter. 221 00:10:10,040 --> 00:10:12,079 Speaker 1: I'm taking her with me on a visit to my 222 00:10:12,200 --> 00:10:14,160 Speaker 1: family back home in France for a few weeks. Her 223 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:17,280 Speaker 1: father has given his consent, it is a non issue. 224 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:19,520 Speaker 1: There was also confusion about my job. I work in 225 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:21,920 Speaker 1: the psychology field, and I was just using this post 226 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:24,760 Speaker 1: as a sounding board. Reason Really, the responses from his 227 00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:27,880 Speaker 1: friends and mother made me question myself. As stated, I 228 00:10:28,040 --> 00:10:31,959 Speaker 1: informed Liv's father of what happened. He was furious with 229 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:36,040 Speaker 1: both Alex and Live There we go, Alex's thirty five 230 00:10:36,120 --> 00:10:38,520 Speaker 1: year old friend. He apologized to me and said he 231 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:40,280 Speaker 1: will try to get the truth from her and that 232 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:44,640 Speaker 1: she rebels any chance she gets. But this was disgusting. 233 00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:48,640 Speaker 1: So she's like a problem child, which why would if 234 00:10:48,640 --> 00:10:50,960 Speaker 1: she was the problem child? Why did he suggest her 235 00:10:51,280 --> 00:10:52,240 Speaker 1: as a nanny? 236 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:52,600 Speaker 4: Yeah? 237 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:55,280 Speaker 3: Maybe, yeah, yeah, He's like, hey, maybe this will straighten 238 00:10:55,360 --> 00:10:57,560 Speaker 3: her out some time. 239 00:10:58,400 --> 00:11:02,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, I want to learn from a child. 240 00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:07,440 Speaker 1: I then looked through the camera in my daughter's nursery 241 00:11:07,720 --> 00:11:10,439 Speaker 1: and I saw a clip of live asking if she 242 00:11:10,640 --> 00:11:20,800 Speaker 1: wanted a sister or brother from Miss Livvy and Daddy. No, no, no, 243 00:11:23,280 --> 00:11:26,439 Speaker 1: not only are they hooking up, but she is has 244 00:11:26,520 --> 00:11:31,199 Speaker 1: the intention of being with child. Actually, that's what, that's what, 245 00:11:31,679 --> 00:11:35,360 Speaker 1: that's what from what we just learned, Oh, do you 246 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:37,120 Speaker 1: want a sister or brother from Miss Livy? She's like, 247 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:39,160 Speaker 1: do you want me to bear children? 248 00:11:39,440 --> 00:11:42,320 Speaker 3: But is she having a crazy fantasy talking to the baby, 249 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:46,560 Speaker 3: trying to baby trap the truth and actually hooking up 250 00:11:46,600 --> 00:11:46,800 Speaker 3: with him. 251 00:11:46,880 --> 00:11:48,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, it could be that she has a fantasy. We 252 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:50,200 Speaker 1: don't know if it's true yet, we don't know if 253 00:11:50,240 --> 00:11:50,560 Speaker 1: it's true. 254 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:51,560 Speaker 3: Holme on the edge of my seat. 255 00:11:51,720 --> 00:11:55,000 Speaker 1: That made me feel sick to my stomach disgust. She 256 00:11:55,120 --> 00:11:57,520 Speaker 1: responded to her dismissal with the Niles, but I told 257 00:11:57,559 --> 00:11:59,880 Speaker 1: her I had the footage and that she was never 258 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:02,040 Speaker 1: to lay a hand on my baby again. But if 259 00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:04,800 Speaker 1: she wanted Alex so bad, she could have him. I 260 00:12:04,920 --> 00:12:07,199 Speaker 1: reminded her that how you get them is how you 261 00:12:07,280 --> 00:12:09,720 Speaker 1: lose them, and he would soon tire of a twenty 262 00:12:09,840 --> 00:12:18,240 Speaker 1: somethingter college dropout kid Alex returned to the house temporarily 263 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:20,160 Speaker 1: for us to talk. After me showing him the camera 264 00:12:20,200 --> 00:12:22,960 Speaker 1: footage and texts from live, he broke down and said 265 00:12:22,960 --> 00:12:25,880 Speaker 1: he was really sorry, too little, too late. He admitted 266 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:30,480 Speaker 1: that whilst nothing happened physically between them, they had been 267 00:12:30,520 --> 00:12:33,319 Speaker 1: exchanging photos and messages for a month or two. He 268 00:12:33,440 --> 00:12:36,160 Speaker 1: showed me the original messages and it was her who 269 00:12:36,240 --> 00:12:38,640 Speaker 1: had pursued him. She started by saying she felt like 270 00:12:38,679 --> 00:12:41,679 Speaker 1: a schoolgirl around him and said she needed advice who 271 00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:46,160 Speaker 1: important man like him now, and sent him a photo 272 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:49,480 Speaker 1: of her and lingerie, asking if it was sexy. 273 00:12:49,320 --> 00:12:53,000 Speaker 3: That's not advice about. 274 00:12:53,400 --> 00:12:55,719 Speaker 1: He started out not really responding, but after a few 275 00:12:55,840 --> 00:12:58,280 Speaker 1: texts he responded and it started from there. She was 276 00:12:58,280 --> 00:13:01,000 Speaker 1: saying things about them being a half family together, but 277 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:04,040 Speaker 1: he never responded to those texts. He begged me to 278 00:13:04,120 --> 00:13:07,680 Speaker 1: forgive him and start fresh. Question for the comments, would 279 00:13:07,720 --> 00:13:10,360 Speaker 1: you forgive him? Is this a forgivable defense? Will you 280 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:13,600 Speaker 1: past it? Or would you just kick him to the curb? 281 00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:13,839 Speaker 2: No? 282 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:16,120 Speaker 4: What you do is you take your bags and you 283 00:13:16,240 --> 00:13:16,840 Speaker 4: go to France. 284 00:13:17,160 --> 00:13:20,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, and to really French eat a baget right next 285 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:23,160 Speaker 1: to the Effel Tower. He said we can move and 286 00:13:23,240 --> 00:13:25,480 Speaker 1: that we have plenty of money. He will do whatever 287 00:13:25,640 --> 00:13:27,920 Speaker 1: I want. I told him what I want is to 288 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:30,199 Speaker 1: go home for a few weeks, so that is what 289 00:13:30,520 --> 00:13:33,560 Speaker 1: I'm doing. Cassie and are flying tomorrow France. He honestly 290 00:13:33,679 --> 00:13:37,000 Speaker 1: looks so pathetic. Now they're welcome to have each other. 291 00:13:37,200 --> 00:13:39,360 Speaker 1: There will be no wedding, and I will be consulting 292 00:13:39,400 --> 00:13:41,920 Speaker 1: with a custody lawyer once I get to France to 293 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:45,280 Speaker 1: see my options both in the US and internationally, because 294 00:13:45,280 --> 00:13:50,360 Speaker 1: again they were not married. There were fiances, But as 295 00:13:50,400 --> 00:13:52,600 Speaker 1: someone in the comments said, I stayed in the US 296 00:13:52,679 --> 00:13:54,400 Speaker 1: not because I think it's a good place to live, 297 00:13:54,520 --> 00:13:56,800 Speaker 1: because that's where Alex was based and that's where we 298 00:13:56,840 --> 00:13:59,480 Speaker 1: wanted to build a family. However, I will always support 299 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:02,440 Speaker 1: the her father relationship, but he cannot have our daughter 300 00:14:02,600 --> 00:14:04,959 Speaker 1: and his nanny. Now that's not happening. I would like 301 00:14:05,040 --> 00:14:08,360 Speaker 1: to move home and most certainly away from this slatty nanny. 302 00:14:08,440 --> 00:14:11,320 Speaker 1: I am not looking for custody advice. Miny update from 303 00:14:11,400 --> 00:14:13,599 Speaker 1: Liv's father. He has found and sent me some of 304 00:14:13,640 --> 00:14:17,280 Speaker 1: the deleted messages. Liv talks about wanting me out of 305 00:14:17,400 --> 00:14:19,960 Speaker 1: the picture, so she can be Cassie's. 306 00:14:19,560 --> 00:14:22,640 Speaker 3: Mom, what the murderous nanny? 307 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:27,280 Speaker 1: And there are some more relevant comments and another thick update. 308 00:14:27,360 --> 00:14:31,200 Speaker 1: This gets no extremely more juicy. The juice has not 309 00:14:31,360 --> 00:14:32,520 Speaker 1: even been halfway squeezed. 310 00:14:32,560 --> 00:14:33,760 Speaker 3: It's almost just stuck. 311 00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:36,240 Speaker 1: It's only been starting to dribble. 312 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:39,160 Speaker 3: Squeezed, has not been squatted. Why is he. 313 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:43,160 Speaker 4: Sending her more proof? He's like here taking off. 314 00:14:43,400 --> 00:14:45,600 Speaker 1: I think he just wants like everything to be out 315 00:14:45,600 --> 00:14:45,960 Speaker 1: in the open. 316 00:14:46,120 --> 00:14:48,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, or maybe he's thinking that if he can prove 317 00:14:48,360 --> 00:14:50,680 Speaker 4: that the nanny is kind of like crazy. 318 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:53,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's like, look, it wasn't me, she was crazy anyway. 319 00:14:53,520 --> 00:14:57,920 Speaker 1: Relevant comments, She was really one illusional OPI and Alex 320 00:14:58,000 --> 00:14:59,760 Speaker 1: fed into it. Do you trust his judgment for the 321 00:15:00,240 --> 00:15:02,360 Speaker 1: people you would want around your child, especially once he 322 00:15:02,400 --> 00:15:05,160 Speaker 1: starts dating again. Are you sure your daughter will maain 323 00:15:05,240 --> 00:15:07,640 Speaker 1: his priority while she is solely in his care. I 324 00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:10,480 Speaker 1: know it's never ideal, but please don't completely dismiss you 325 00:15:10,560 --> 00:15:12,840 Speaker 1: having full custody. If moving back home to France is 326 00:15:12,880 --> 00:15:14,760 Speaker 1: what's best for you and her, he can travel and 327 00:15:14,920 --> 00:15:17,720 Speaker 1: bend his life to accommodate hers. If he doesn't, you 328 00:15:17,880 --> 00:15:18,480 Speaker 1: have your answer. 329 00:15:18,600 --> 00:15:19,240 Speaker 3: Now we're talking. 330 00:15:19,880 --> 00:15:22,160 Speaker 1: Hope he says, thank you. Yes, that is a worry 331 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:23,920 Speaker 1: I have. I will probably go to France, but I 332 00:15:23,960 --> 00:15:26,200 Speaker 1: will try to sort things out for him to still. 333 00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:30,320 Speaker 1: See her comment, many people are foolish. Listen to them. 334 00:15:30,920 --> 00:15:33,280 Speaker 1: What kind of father would he be for your daughter 335 00:15:33,440 --> 00:15:36,920 Speaker 1: if you had equal custody. He obviously cannot be trusted, 336 00:15:37,120 --> 00:15:38,760 Speaker 1: and that is the worst kind of father for a 337 00:15:38,840 --> 00:15:41,400 Speaker 1: girl or a boy to have. A case in point, 338 00:15:41,880 --> 00:15:44,120 Speaker 1: case in point is his behavior with a twenty year 339 00:15:44,120 --> 00:15:47,600 Speaker 1: old nanny. He didn't shut her delusional behavior down. He 340 00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:50,480 Speaker 1: allowed her to send him nude photos and to have 341 00:15:50,680 --> 00:15:53,480 Speaker 1: this young, drange woman state she wanted you out of 342 00:15:53,560 --> 00:15:56,400 Speaker 1: the way without calling her or cutting the relationship off. 343 00:15:56,960 --> 00:15:59,920 Speaker 1: Seek legal advice in France. I would hope that they're 344 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:02,840 Speaker 1: those circumstances should make it fairly easy for you to 345 00:16:02,880 --> 00:16:05,320 Speaker 1: get full custody, as long as you allow some kind 346 00:16:05,520 --> 00:16:08,080 Speaker 1: of visitation every two weeks for him, which he likely 347 00:16:08,120 --> 00:16:10,440 Speaker 1: wouldn't use anyway. Best of luck, Opie says, I will 348 00:16:10,440 --> 00:16:12,640 Speaker 1: support him to have a relationship with her daughter, but 349 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:19,000 Speaker 1: he is not a priority anymore. And into the updates date. 350 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:22,480 Speaker 1: Let's go straight into the updates. So, hi guys, thanks 351 00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:24,840 Speaker 1: so much all of you for putting your support and 352 00:16:24,920 --> 00:16:28,200 Speaker 1: advice under my two posts. There are also some very 353 00:16:28,360 --> 00:16:32,560 Speaker 1: obvious insecure in cells in the commons claiming I'm kidnapping 354 00:16:32,640 --> 00:16:36,520 Speaker 1: my daughter. You're giving my sister and I some great laughs. Anyway, 355 00:16:36,800 --> 00:16:39,160 Speaker 1: for the update, Cassie and I have been in France 356 00:16:39,520 --> 00:16:42,200 Speaker 1: for two days now. It's been so wonderful to be 357 00:16:42,320 --> 00:16:44,400 Speaker 1: back with my family after missing them for so long. 358 00:16:44,600 --> 00:16:47,840 Speaker 1: They've been doting on Cassie, especially my mother and father, who, 359 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:51,240 Speaker 1: even though our divorce, remain very amicable for the sake 360 00:16:51,320 --> 00:16:52,160 Speaker 1: of my sisters and I. 361 00:16:52,400 --> 00:16:53,840 Speaker 3: They're not sleeping with the nannies. 362 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:57,080 Speaker 1: They're not sleeping with the nannies. What the fuck crazy 363 00:16:57,160 --> 00:17:00,640 Speaker 1: that can happen. Mama had a whole room set up 364 00:17:00,640 --> 00:17:03,560 Speaker 1: with toys and blankets for Cassie. I've also been loving 365 00:17:03,640 --> 00:17:07,879 Speaker 1: the wine and cheese, very French, very French, and gossiping 366 00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:10,120 Speaker 1: with my sisters. It's been very good to let loose 367 00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:12,720 Speaker 1: after all the stress, honestly, and I've gotten to ride 368 00:17:12,800 --> 00:17:16,439 Speaker 1: my family's horse and show him to Cassie. Are they 369 00:17:17,680 --> 00:17:19,080 Speaker 1: I think they're in the French countryside. 370 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:21,440 Speaker 3: Well. 371 00:17:22,680 --> 00:17:25,119 Speaker 1: Someone suggested I meet up with some old friends to 372 00:17:25,240 --> 00:17:27,200 Speaker 1: go out and let loose, and that's exactly what I 373 00:17:27,280 --> 00:17:29,440 Speaker 1: did last night. I went out dancing, had some great 374 00:17:29,440 --> 00:17:33,120 Speaker 1: food and wine and went dancing French friends franch French 375 00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:34,880 Speaker 1: life seems coming dope, kind of nice. 376 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:36,560 Speaker 4: I've only spent six hours there. 377 00:17:36,720 --> 00:17:38,399 Speaker 3: But do they have more hot nyonnise? 378 00:17:38,840 --> 00:17:43,359 Speaker 1: They did, Yes, they did theirs there. Yeah, there's this 379 00:17:43,520 --> 00:17:45,679 Speaker 1: one guy from our group who used to be very 380 00:17:45,760 --> 00:17:48,240 Speaker 1: flirty with me back in the day. Anyways, one thing 381 00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:50,840 Speaker 1: or another happened and we ended up going back to 382 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:51,440 Speaker 1: his place. 383 00:17:51,760 --> 00:17:54,440 Speaker 3: Oh it was good. 384 00:17:55,240 --> 00:17:57,320 Speaker 1: Actually, he listened to what I wanted and we were 385 00:17:57,440 --> 00:18:01,879 Speaker 1: both very pleased at the end. So he's my new nanny. 386 00:18:06,440 --> 00:18:06,879 Speaker 3: His interview. 387 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:09,920 Speaker 1: I'm meeting a lawyer today and my ex has been ringing. 388 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:11,760 Speaker 1: I let him talk to Cassie whenever he wants, but 389 00:18:11,880 --> 00:18:15,680 Speaker 1: I'm refusing to engage whilst I'm on my break. Love 390 00:18:15,720 --> 00:18:18,320 Speaker 1: the wills wilst and people need to calm down. I 391 00:18:18,359 --> 00:18:21,080 Speaker 1: didn't say I had sex with him, it certainly sounded 392 00:18:21,160 --> 00:18:24,440 Speaker 1: like it. Want details. We went back to his talked 393 00:18:24,440 --> 00:18:27,399 Speaker 1: about life and had a steamy makeout session. Although it 394 00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:29,480 Speaker 1: doesn't matter as I had kicked my ex of the 395 00:18:29,520 --> 00:18:32,760 Speaker 1: curb already. Also live contacted me out of anger when 396 00:18:32,800 --> 00:18:35,199 Speaker 1: Alex cut all contact with her to show that they 397 00:18:35,320 --> 00:18:37,840 Speaker 1: had a one night stand a few weeks before I 398 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:38,440 Speaker 1: found out. 399 00:18:38,760 --> 00:18:39,800 Speaker 3: Oh so he did. 400 00:18:41,480 --> 00:18:46,120 Speaker 1: Where he had a physical relationship. Stinky man, stinky man, 401 00:18:46,359 --> 00:18:49,200 Speaker 1: stinky man. I would have thought this stinky man of 402 00:18:49,240 --> 00:18:51,800 Speaker 1: a stinky man would have done stinky man things. 403 00:18:52,160 --> 00:18:52,960 Speaker 4: Who would have thunk? 404 00:18:53,560 --> 00:18:56,560 Speaker 1: But guess what, John, Sophia, what Siley? 405 00:18:57,080 --> 00:18:57,480 Speaker 4: Tell me what? 406 00:18:57,960 --> 00:19:02,480 Speaker 1: There's another update? No? Yeah, no way, dude, there's another update. 407 00:19:02,720 --> 00:19:06,200 Speaker 1: Sit back, relax and enjoy the team. I will so comment, 408 00:19:06,280 --> 00:19:08,119 Speaker 1: thank you for the update. And wow, he had a 409 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:10,040 Speaker 1: one night stand with this girl? Well that just goes 410 00:19:10,040 --> 00:19:13,480 Speaker 1: to show his family that they were not horriblest text 411 00:19:13,880 --> 00:19:16,440 Speaker 1: They were tempting texts, and he gave in to temptations. 412 00:19:17,119 --> 00:19:19,920 Speaker 1: She does not deserve a second chance just because. And no, 413 00:19:20,080 --> 00:19:23,400 Speaker 1: you do not owe anybody any explanations about whether you're 414 00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:26,160 Speaker 1: banging someone else or not. Alice already left the relationship. 415 00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:27,960 Speaker 1: He ended it when he chose a twenty year old girl. 416 00:19:28,080 --> 00:19:30,640 Speaker 1: You have no responsibility to him. As for the kidnapping, 417 00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:33,320 Speaker 1: bet not sure where people get off saying that, yeah, 418 00:19:33,359 --> 00:19:36,240 Speaker 1: you're married, right, Opie says, thank you? No, we weren't, 419 00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:38,560 Speaker 1: and I don't intend on keeping our daughter from him, 420 00:19:38,800 --> 00:19:40,640 Speaker 1: but he will have to put in some hard work 421 00:19:40,720 --> 00:19:42,320 Speaker 1: for custody of her. Now, really quick to both of 422 00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:46,399 Speaker 1: you guys, Yes, what do you think about her getting relations? 423 00:19:46,600 --> 00:19:48,960 Speaker 1: So some of the commentators were up in arms about 424 00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:51,400 Speaker 1: her making out with this dude back at home. 425 00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:53,560 Speaker 4: I don't think that's an issue. 426 00:19:53,840 --> 00:19:57,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, I wouldn't necessarily advise it. But if she was like, hey, 427 00:19:57,840 --> 00:19:59,960 Speaker 3: I'm leaving you, yeah, well now. 428 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:03,400 Speaker 4: And they're also not they're not married. They're not married, 429 00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:07,000 Speaker 4: and they're not married, like there's no separation thing going on. 430 00:20:07,240 --> 00:20:08,199 Speaker 4: This was just a breakup. 431 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:10,560 Speaker 3: Even if they were married and she was like, hey, 432 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:13,760 Speaker 3: I'm leaving you, we're done, but they haven't legally divorced yet, 433 00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:17,679 Speaker 3: it's still okay to emotionally, it might not be helpful 434 00:20:17,800 --> 00:20:19,040 Speaker 3: talk to I'm confused. 435 00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:19,959 Speaker 1: Are you confused? 436 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:22,800 Speaker 2: Because in the check me on this and the French culture, 437 00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:26,000 Speaker 2: is it okay to have mistress and wife? Because in 438 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:28,080 Speaker 2: a lot of the French movies that I've watched, like 439 00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:30,040 Speaker 2: the older French movies, it's like you have your main 440 00:20:30,480 --> 00:20:32,080 Speaker 2: wife and then you have like someone you're like. 441 00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:35,920 Speaker 3: The French are stinky people that she's done each other 442 00:20:36,160 --> 00:20:41,359 Speaker 3: again six hours. And I've heard about the French and 443 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:48,000 Speaker 3: French people because it is more from what I know, 444 00:20:48,119 --> 00:20:52,920 Speaker 3: it is more common, universal, part of the accepted culture. 445 00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:54,840 Speaker 1: It's not like I actually think it might be part 446 00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:57,920 Speaker 1: of the accepted culture. Didn't we read that one thing 447 00:20:58,119 --> 00:21:01,399 Speaker 1: that like France outlawed paternity detest because everyone's hooking up 448 00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:04,160 Speaker 1: with everyone. Yes, yeah, and they didn't want like people 449 00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:07,800 Speaker 1: to skip out on children. Yes, we did read that, right, 450 00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:08,320 Speaker 1: we did. 451 00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:10,920 Speaker 2: We did. It was like Germany and France or something 452 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:11,119 Speaker 2: like that. 453 00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:14,760 Speaker 4: But French people in the comments because. 454 00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:15,600 Speaker 1: We are willfully ignorant. 455 00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:18,160 Speaker 2: Yes, if that is the case, I don't think she's 456 00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:21,040 Speaker 2: in the wrong for getting with this new fellow very quickly, 457 00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:23,440 Speaker 2: because in America, wouldn't you want to wait till you're 458 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:25,680 Speaker 2: actually divorced or they're not married. 459 00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:26,399 Speaker 1: They're not married. 460 00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:29,159 Speaker 4: Oh, this is not even a divorce, is purely a breakup. 461 00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:32,800 Speaker 3: I think people can like be fully separated while just 462 00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:35,960 Speaker 3: going through the legal procedure of divorce as well, which 463 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:36,479 Speaker 3: can take long. 464 00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:39,320 Speaker 1: But let's get into another comment. I'm very glad that 465 00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:41,720 Speaker 1: you and Cassie are doing much better. You deserve our 466 00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:45,879 Speaker 1: life stress free, no piece of shit, fiances and nanny's aloud? 467 00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:47,560 Speaker 1: How did he react to you dumping him? Have you 468 00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:50,440 Speaker 1: heard anything new about living from her dad? That girl 469 00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:53,359 Speaker 1: needs reality check? And no, he says he's delusional. Wanted 470 00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:56,320 Speaker 1: to drive me to the airport. Didn't get the message 471 00:21:56,560 --> 00:22:01,160 Speaker 1: until I gave him the ring back. Dad has been great. 472 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:04,480 Speaker 1: I feel bad for him and oh. He has indicated 473 00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:06,880 Speaker 1: she will be ending her relationship and wants to split 474 00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:09,040 Speaker 1: custody of her child with her partner, but she also 475 00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:11,520 Speaker 1: indicated that she's not met with a lawyer yet at 476 00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:13,680 Speaker 1: the time of the most recent update. As such, we 477 00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:16,600 Speaker 1: can reasonably expect that there may be another update because 478 00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:21,320 Speaker 1: custody arrangements and other issues still remain unsolved. Guess what 479 00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:25,920 Speaker 1: there is another update Update three? 480 00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:31,640 Speaker 4: Update number three. It keeps going a gift that keeps 481 00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:32,280 Speaker 4: on given. 482 00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:34,280 Speaker 3: Nice note. 483 00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:36,960 Speaker 1: Thanks, Hi guys. A lot of you still comment on 484 00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:39,120 Speaker 1: my old post asking for an update, so I thought 485 00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:41,640 Speaker 1: I let you guys know what's happened in the past 486 00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:44,080 Speaker 1: few months, as I'm sure it'll anger the men in 487 00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:51,920 Speaker 1: the comments again. Angry, angry some men. So after going 488 00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:54,359 Speaker 1: to France to visit my parents. Immediately after what happened 489 00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:56,200 Speaker 1: six months ago, I agreed with my family that I 490 00:22:56,280 --> 00:22:58,560 Speaker 1: needed to come home to France with my daughter. My 491 00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:00,720 Speaker 1: family said they would provide any help I needed with 492 00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:03,159 Speaker 1: moving and lawyers, and my father said a prayer that 493 00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:05,240 Speaker 1: we never had the wedding as there was no divorce 494 00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:07,040 Speaker 1: to have to go through. Yeah, makes it easy, there 495 00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:08,240 Speaker 1: we go, Thank you much. 496 00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:09,840 Speaker 3: When I returned to. 497 00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:12,520 Speaker 1: The US, I informed my ex fiance that there would 498 00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:15,520 Speaker 1: be no compromise or discussion on my next steps. Cassie 499 00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:18,760 Speaker 1: and I would be returning to France, so I would 500 00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:22,000 Speaker 1: have my support system closer and I wouldn't feel so isolated. 501 00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:24,960 Speaker 1: I told him i'd never try to stop his relationship 502 00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:26,920 Speaker 1: with Cassie and that he would be welcome to visit 503 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:29,400 Speaker 1: her in France, depending on where he decided to live. 504 00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:31,719 Speaker 1: That I would happily bring her back to the States 505 00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:36,720 Speaker 1: to visit periodically. However, I wouldn't compromise with live the 506 00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:38,520 Speaker 1: cheating Nudie Nanny. 507 00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:40,359 Speaker 4: M nudy nanny. 508 00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:42,880 Speaker 1: If I found out she had been near my daughter, 509 00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:46,719 Speaker 1: I would stop all contact between him and Cassie. 510 00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:48,399 Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, I think that's a great idea. 511 00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:53,560 Speaker 1: Question, what is that legal. Yeah, is it for the custody. 512 00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:56,399 Speaker 4: I mean, I think she could apply for full custody 513 00:23:56,880 --> 00:23:57,920 Speaker 4: if she could. 514 00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:01,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, so, and then probably if she has full custody, 515 00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:03,480 Speaker 3: she's just letting him out of the kindness of her 516 00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:05,760 Speaker 3: heart see the kid, and it's like, hey, all right, 517 00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:07,800 Speaker 3: I'm going back to you have zero tip. 518 00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:09,840 Speaker 1: But I don't know if she does have full custody. 519 00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:11,840 Speaker 1: I don't know if she technically, Like I feel like 520 00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:14,080 Speaker 1: that's an okay line to draw, but I don't know 521 00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:16,720 Speaker 1: if she can legally maybe only if she wins that, 522 00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:20,959 Speaker 1: but maybe not. Yeah, might not have that leverage. Let 523 00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:22,800 Speaker 1: us know in the chat or let us know in 524 00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:25,479 Speaker 1: the comments if that can happen. Because my understanding, if 525 00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:29,280 Speaker 1: you can prove paternity of if the guy knows that 526 00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:30,960 Speaker 1: it's his kid, he has a right to see the 527 00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:31,520 Speaker 1: child right. 528 00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:34,720 Speaker 3: Until Yeah, until I guess the split of paternity, Yes, 529 00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:37,800 Speaker 3: is custody. The split of custody is detummined by the law. 530 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:39,960 Speaker 1: So I felt like, after what he had put me 531 00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:42,400 Speaker 1: through and how he had disrespected me, I was quite 532 00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:45,480 Speaker 1: I was quite gracious with my offers. We managed to 533 00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:47,560 Speaker 1: sort the move out in the next two months and 534 00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:50,720 Speaker 1: sign an agreement, which stated I was the primary custodian 535 00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:53,720 Speaker 1: of our daughter and I made most decisions regarding her. 536 00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:56,240 Speaker 1: It sets out specific times Alex could be able to 537 00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:59,320 Speaker 1: see or have Cassie. He basically agreed to all of 538 00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:01,440 Speaker 1: this because he I thought once I had left the US, 539 00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:04,159 Speaker 1: I would become more sympathetic and let him back in. 540 00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:08,119 Speaker 1: Once we were in France. I didn't bother to correct him, frankly, 541 00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:10,040 Speaker 1: because it benefited myself to have. 542 00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:12,080 Speaker 3: The data around. Sometimes. 543 00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:14,000 Speaker 4: No, I think she's saying, oh yeah. 544 00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:16,639 Speaker 1: What it seemed like is he was like, oh, you know, 545 00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:19,000 Speaker 1: everything is going to be fine later, she'll let me 546 00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:21,159 Speaker 1: back in, and she let him think. 547 00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:24,359 Speaker 3: That, yeah, she would agree, so he would agree. 548 00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:24,720 Speaker 4: Yeah. 549 00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:26,440 Speaker 1: Is that bad? 550 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:29,399 Speaker 4: I think he assumed things. I think she was like, 551 00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:31,600 Speaker 4: these are the rules, and then it seems like he 552 00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:34,360 Speaker 4: just assumed that she would change her mind. I don't 553 00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:36,000 Speaker 4: think she lied about anything. 554 00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:39,280 Speaker 1: She didn't lie, but she like leaned into the assumptions. 555 00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:40,920 Speaker 4: We don't. I don't know if we know that. 556 00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:45,280 Speaker 1: I feel like, when it is the fate of your 557 00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:47,399 Speaker 1: interaction with a child, I feel like you need to 558 00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:52,520 Speaker 1: be completely upfront about expectations. And also if your partner 559 00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:56,520 Speaker 1: has misinformed expectations. I would say overall, not the a hole, 560 00:25:56,880 --> 00:26:00,600 Speaker 1: slightly a holy to obfuscate some of your intentions. 561 00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:03,600 Speaker 3: From your own perspective, you would say, let me do 562 00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:06,800 Speaker 3: anything to get full custody for me, and then I 563 00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:11,080 Speaker 3: can allow as much as possible or as much as 564 00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:14,360 Speaker 3: I want them to see the kid. Yeah, that's probably 565 00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:17,840 Speaker 3: the perspective that Opie had, which is long you are 566 00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:19,399 Speaker 3: actually fair is good, But. 567 00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:21,760 Speaker 1: That I think it is, you know, like do the 568 00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:23,280 Speaker 1: ends justify the means? 569 00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:23,680 Speaker 3: Yeah? 570 00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:26,520 Speaker 1: You know, like I feel like there's some there's a 571 00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:29,240 Speaker 1: little bit of unscrupulousness in these means. 572 00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:32,200 Speaker 3: And will you be a benevolent god of your child's time? 573 00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:36,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, because from what I'm understanding right now, like it 574 00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:38,879 Speaker 1: doesn't the fact that she still wants him to have 575 00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:41,200 Speaker 1: a relationship with a child and early on was like 576 00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:43,040 Speaker 1: like it seems like he might be a good dad. 577 00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:48,920 Speaker 1: He was just a not a newtie boy and a 578 00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:52,280 Speaker 1: liar and stinky and stinky. I don't know, dude, someone 579 00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:55,400 Speaker 1: cheats on you, someone cheats, do they do they? Still 580 00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:57,760 Speaker 1: is there an expectation to have them be in your 581 00:26:57,800 --> 00:26:59,359 Speaker 1: child's life? I feel like, yeah, I. 582 00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:01,960 Speaker 4: Think there is. I think the issue here was that 583 00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:05,159 Speaker 4: she does not want the nanny around, and there is 584 00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:08,720 Speaker 4: a possibility that she might be if she gives her 585 00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:14,040 Speaker 4: ex fiance like you know, unlimited or on some sort 586 00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:18,040 Speaker 4: of custody supervised watch of sorry, unsupervised custody. 587 00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:23,360 Speaker 1: Daughter Devil's Advocate. Why is that relevant. 588 00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:27,840 Speaker 4: Because the nanny we know is trying to like butt 589 00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:29,080 Speaker 4: into the relationship with. 590 00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:32,560 Speaker 3: She has successfully done so, but specifically we don't know. 591 00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:34,880 Speaker 1: I think the think she's trying to get You think 592 00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:39,600 Speaker 1: the nanny could threaten the life or the wellbeing. 593 00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:44,560 Speaker 3: Of Thin or simply continue to build a relationship with 594 00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:48,360 Speaker 3: her to sour the relationship with Cassie and her mom 595 00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:50,120 Speaker 3: as she grows from baby. 596 00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:51,920 Speaker 4: She's already said I want to be your new mom, 597 00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:55,280 Speaker 4: which as like yeah, right. 598 00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:58,440 Speaker 1: So that for that reason, okay, I think that is 599 00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:03,960 Speaker 1: a really good distinct distinguish her, because basically what Live 600 00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:06,960 Speaker 1: is doing is she's like potentially poisoning or has shown 601 00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:12,119 Speaker 1: signs of want wanting to the relationship between Op and Cassie. 602 00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:15,200 Speaker 1: Big risk of manipulation. Yeah, okay, that I feel like 603 00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:17,600 Speaker 1: that is warranted in that case. I found a really 604 00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:20,280 Speaker 1: nice apartment a street over from my parents, so I 605 00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:22,440 Speaker 1: moved in there once my parents and sister had helped 606 00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:24,880 Speaker 1: me get it decorded before I came to France. We've 607 00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:27,320 Speaker 1: been here for over four months now and Cassie is 608 00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:30,040 Speaker 1: settling in great. She goes to daycare with my friend's 609 00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:33,160 Speaker 1: son and has made great connections here with other kids. 610 00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:36,040 Speaker 1: I'd forgotten how much more social having kids was in 611 00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:38,280 Speaker 1: Europe compared to the US. Once I was added to 612 00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:40,920 Speaker 1: the parents group chat, the mothers could immediately suggested and 613 00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:43,000 Speaker 1: welcome drinks to get to know me better, and I've 614 00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:46,040 Speaker 1: made some more amazing friends with other moms and dads 615 00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:48,840 Speaker 1: a door. I didn't have any of this in the US. 616 00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:51,560 Speaker 1: It really helped Cassie's language skills, as her French is 617 00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:54,000 Speaker 1: developing much better than when it was just me speaking 618 00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:56,320 Speaker 1: to her. I've put her in baby ballet like my 619 00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:59,280 Speaker 1: parents did with me, and she's loving it. We've gotten 620 00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:00,080 Speaker 1: a rescue cat. 621 00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:03,320 Speaker 3: Called Walter oh well to the rescue cat. 622 00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:06,080 Speaker 1: And Cassie adores him. He sleeps at the end of 623 00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:08,440 Speaker 1: her bed and looks after her all the time. Alex 624 00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:11,560 Speaker 1: has been over twice since, even though I had given 625 00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:14,200 Speaker 1: him plenty more chances to see Cassie. However, he didn't 626 00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:16,840 Speaker 1: take me up on them. For context, there's no issue 627 00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:19,959 Speaker 1: with money and his passport to excuse why he won't fly. 628 00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:22,480 Speaker 1: We spent Christmas with my parents and my sister and 629 00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:25,240 Speaker 1: her partner and it was just a lovely celebration after 630 00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:27,440 Speaker 1: the shit that happened. I've started seeing one of the 631 00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:29,800 Speaker 1: doctors from the new hospital I work in now it's 632 00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:33,720 Speaker 1: still relatively new, so she's met Cassie only briefly. She 633 00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:37,440 Speaker 1: works in the emergency department and she's honestly amazing. I 634 00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:40,960 Speaker 1: did jokingly say Alex had put me off men and 635 00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:44,480 Speaker 1: didn't mean to take it so literally. Bisexual woman shocking. 636 00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:46,960 Speaker 1: I know it's going slow as she knows what I've 637 00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:48,800 Speaker 1: come out of, but she's very laid back and it 638 00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:50,760 Speaker 1: go with the flow kind of person, which is exactly 639 00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:53,680 Speaker 1: what I need. Alex's mother is not happy, as she 640 00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:55,880 Speaker 1: is of the opinion I should have just ignored what 641 00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:58,640 Speaker 1: happened between Alex and Live. However, I'm not just a 642 00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:02,640 Speaker 1: little American house who will ignore her husband's indiscretions. That's right. 643 00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:05,880 Speaker 1: Thank you all for advice and support. In my initial 644 00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:08,920 Speaker 1: post edit of for all the Americans gett annoyed at 645 00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:11,760 Speaker 1: the phrase a little American housewife. Not my words. I 646 00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:14,280 Speaker 1: was literally quoting Alex's mother and what she said to me. 647 00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:17,160 Speaker 1: She is American, She's like American said it, you gotta pass. 648 00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:19,800 Speaker 1: She said what I was in her family, I was 649 00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:22,200 Speaker 1: expected to act like a normal American housewife and forgive 650 00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:25,680 Speaker 1: my husband like her and her daughter do none of 651 00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:27,480 Speaker 1: that European nonsense. 652 00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:32,320 Speaker 4: I don't even know if that's accurate, though it's I 653 00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:33,520 Speaker 4: don't think that's accurate. 654 00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:36,160 Speaker 3: You cheated, That's okay? 655 00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:37,720 Speaker 1: Is a good point? 656 00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:40,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe I think it's both honestly. 657 00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:42,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, but at it it's really funny to see the 658 00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:44,280 Speaker 1: men into the comments, proving that there is still a 659 00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:46,320 Speaker 1: double standard. I don't know why I, as a mother, 660 00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:48,480 Speaker 1: am expected to stay in a country that doesn't speak 661 00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:50,600 Speaker 1: my first language, where I don't have any family little 662 00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:53,040 Speaker 1: friends to support, have to deal with Alex's family all 663 00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:54,880 Speaker 1: for his sake so he doesn't have to make an 664 00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:57,320 Speaker 1: extra effort to see his daughter when he was the 665 00:30:57,360 --> 00:30:59,720 Speaker 1: one who decided to break the family in the first place. Yeah, 666 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:03,480 Speaker 1: and relevant comments. First, congratulations on the move. That's fantastic. 667 00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:05,560 Speaker 1: I'm so glad you have a good support system now 668 00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:07,440 Speaker 1: and that you're happy there. I was rooting for you. 669 00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:09,600 Speaker 1: I think that's I think that's a good point because 670 00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:12,120 Speaker 1: it's like the mother should go wherever she can best 671 00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:14,400 Speaker 1: take care of her child. Indeed, you know, look all 672 00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:15,240 Speaker 1: the support she has no. 673 00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:17,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, she gets to Yeah. 674 00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:20,120 Speaker 1: Second, as an American housewife, I can tell you that 675 00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:23,400 Speaker 1: nothing would end my thirty marriage faster than any kind 676 00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:26,920 Speaker 1: of infidelity, including nudes. That's why I was so outraged 677 00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:28,800 Speaker 1: for you when I read your earlier post. I'm really 678 00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:31,280 Speaker 1: glad you were able to turn your situation around. Well done. 679 00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:33,960 Speaker 1: I wish you all the best. And Shooter TX says, yeah, 680 00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:35,800 Speaker 1: sounds like mother in law and sister in law were 681 00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:39,200 Speaker 1: just idiots and have a very warp sense of what 682 00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:41,719 Speaker 1: it means to be an American housewife, and then finally 683 00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:43,240 Speaker 1: have a warped sense of what it means to be 684 00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:46,120 Speaker 1: American housewife. When I think of American housewife in context 685 00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:48,840 Speaker 1: of finding out a boyfriend fiance husband had an affair, 686 00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:52,280 Speaker 1: I think of going full carry underword allah before he cheats. 687 00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:55,360 Speaker 1: Two black catalysm or church bells. Good thing for Alex 688 00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:57,440 Speaker 1: and mother in law that OPI isn't that type of 689 00:31:57,440 --> 00:32:00,320 Speaker 1: American housewife. I don't know that reference, but I'm assuming 690 00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:03,840 Speaker 1: it's for his car. Yeah, that kind of stuff. 691 00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:06,880 Speaker 3: That's where it. Yeah, that's the end. Wow. 692 00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:09,360 Speaker 1: So how do we think Op handle all this? Was good? 693 00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:11,040 Speaker 1: It was it bad? I want to know in the comments, 694 00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:11,600 Speaker 1: what do you guys think? 695 00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:14,920 Speaker 4: I think it was good. I think Op broke off 696 00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:17,640 Speaker 4: the relationship at the exact right moment when she found out. 697 00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:20,160 Speaker 4: I don't think she was taking her child away from 698 00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:23,760 Speaker 4: her father. It's like spitefully she wanted to be near 699 00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:24,600 Speaker 4: her family, which I. 700 00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:27,720 Speaker 1: Think is it like she did talk to him about 701 00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:29,160 Speaker 1: all of this. It wasn't like he was like, no, 702 00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:30,480 Speaker 1: you have to stay, like I need to be with 703 00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:30,840 Speaker 1: the kid. 704 00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:32,000 Speaker 4: It was given. 705 00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:34,840 Speaker 1: There was consent given. I want a different story if 706 00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:39,280 Speaker 1: if it like they didn't have that conversation left conversation. 707 00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:41,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't think she didn anything wrong. 708 00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:43,720 Speaker 2: My favorite part was like she was able to move 709 00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:46,440 Speaker 2: back to France and like she had a man's like 710 00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:49,760 Speaker 2: kind of waiting there for and she had like girlfriends 711 00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:52,600 Speaker 2: there and like a new community. That that part's amazing. 712 00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:55,680 Speaker 5: Yeah, it honestly feels like a kind of happy ending. Yeah, 713 00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:59,560 Speaker 5: as happy as she gets a new girl, she gets 714 00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:03,720 Speaker 5: her family, she gets a baby. She's thriving, She's got 715 00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:04,120 Speaker 5: it all. 716 00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:08,200 Speaker 1: Do you know what I want? More of? What a 717 00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:10,000 Speaker 1: story from John? 718 00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:11,360 Speaker 3: Let me give it to you.