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Speaker 4: We talked a little bit about the game last night.
Speaker 4: The Bears are terrible. Seattle scored six points and that
Speaker 4: was enough. So if you are a fan of defense,
Speaker 4: off and running, are these.
Speaker 3: Hopes you're you're kind of game.
Speaker 5: Baby. No, I didn't like it.
Speaker 3: I don't like it.
Speaker 6: I usually will say, you know, what a defensive struggle.
Speaker 6: I don't think it was a defensive struggle. I just
Speaker 6: thought it was just it wasn't I don't know. It
Speaker 6: wasn't an exciting game. It was not an exciting game.
Speaker 6: It was not It was competitive in the sense that
Speaker 6: both offenses weren't.
Speaker 5: Really able to do you know, do much. I mean
Speaker 5: you could, we just watched it on television.
Speaker 6: You get an offensive lineman who cost you at the
Speaker 6: end of the game, costing you earlier in the game
Speaker 6: where they got one of those scarce, scarce touchdowns. I
Speaker 6: guess the only pulse of the game where there was
Speaker 6: real entertainment was with your boy DK Metcalf and him
Speaker 6: hit budding and feeling a certain type of way. I
Speaker 6: just I don't know, man, I just felt like it
Speaker 6: was a very very sub par game. Man. I didn't
Speaker 6: find it to be very entertaining. My kids were walking out,
Speaker 6: they were like, this is what we're doing. I was like, man,
Speaker 6: and I was sitting there in my head. I didn't
Speaker 6: want to admit to him that I was right there
Speaker 6: with him.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 4: You know my son said to me, like, he's really per.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Papa, so Bear Bears.
Speaker 4: He's three, he's three, and he had he had some
Speaker 4: toys laying around on the ground, and I said, uh,
Speaker 4: And I tell him like, hey, you got to pick
Speaker 4: up your toys. You got to clean up after yourself.
Speaker 4: And he says to me, the Bears don't clean up
Speaker 4: after themselves. And I swear to God, I thought to myself,
Speaker 4: on my life, he said exactly that, And I thought
Speaker 4: to myself, you know what, He's probably right.
Speaker 5: They probably mean I think he.
Speaker 4: Just I think he just recognized that there was so
Speaker 4: much dysfunction in every Bears game he's watched this year
Speaker 4: that he realized, well, they can't handle their business, why
Speaker 4: do I need to handle mine? Like, well, what's the point.
Speaker 4: I swear to God, that's a true story. And look,
Speaker 4: he was probably one hundred percent accurate. That's just a
Speaker 4: bad football team. And if I repeat Carroll, I'd go
Speaker 4: ahead and uh, you know, redact that statement that you
Speaker 4: are interested in the job.
Speaker 5: Whoever.
Speaker 2: Well, what I found most interesting coming out of that
Speaker 2: was Jalen Johnson, their cornerback is an all Pro caliber player,
Speaker 2: was already talking.
Speaker 3: About the type of coach they need to bring in.
Speaker 2: It's it's not very often you hear a player talk
Speaker 2: about that while the season is still going on. Maybe
Speaker 2: the postseason, maybe a podcast something comes out. But I
Speaker 2: mean he seems invested in wanting the Bears to find
Speaker 2: an offensive mind to come in and work with and
Speaker 2: maximize Kayleb Williams talents. So I found that just kind
Speaker 2: of interesting, Like this is where the Bears are out
Speaker 2: at this point. I mean, players are sharing their opinion
Speaker 2: of who they want to be their next head coach.
Speaker 4: Okay, and I can't stand the well, you got to
Speaker 4: get an offensive guy, Rabel, Tommy Reese, just give him
Speaker 4: the gig. There's your guys.
Speaker 2: I understand people feel that way, but here's the reason
Speaker 2: why most most people want an offensive guy. It's not
Speaker 2: for the reason that everyone thinks, and that's, oh, because
Speaker 2: we want him come in and develop the young quarterback,
Speaker 2: you know, make him that young.
Speaker 3: It's not that.
Speaker 2: It's the fact that if you bring in a Mike
Speaker 2: Rabel and Tommy Reese is his OC, what happens after
Speaker 2: one year of them actually making the playoffs and being good,
Speaker 2: Tommy Reese is leaving for a head coaching job. So
Speaker 2: that's the problem is if you look at the last
Speaker 2: string of Super Bowls was the last twelve, they've pretty
Speaker 2: much all been offensive minded head coaches, with the one
Speaker 2: exception being with Belichick. I mean, that's what wins, that's
Speaker 2: how the league rules are set up. And so yeah,
Speaker 2: you can go find a great defensive mind. Mike Rabel's
Speaker 2: a guy who's gonna fall into that category. Brian Flores
Speaker 2: is done a tremendous job in Minnesota. He should get
Speaker 2: another shot at it. The problem is everyone's gonna ask
Speaker 2: the question who's your OC then, and then once the
Speaker 2: OC's hired, if they have enough success, they're a head
Speaker 2: coach soon.
Speaker 3: That's the hard part about it.
Speaker 6: Yeah, well, I just don't know how how these coaches
Speaker 6: are going to navigate some of these messes. I look
Speaker 6: at the Giants situation, you keep them. This is a
Speaker 6: Pete Prisco. You're damned if you don't. With the Giant situation,
Speaker 6: I feel like Chicago right now as it stands, You're
Speaker 6: damned if you do. You're damned if you don't. With
Speaker 6: that situation, like I wouldn't touch it. I wouldn't touch it.
Speaker 6: If I had the opportunity to get a head coaching job,
Speaker 6: it would mean more to me to preserve my reputation
Speaker 6: than to take a chance on thinking that I could
Speaker 6: turn that around. The only reason why I felt like
Speaker 6: the commander's job made sense for somebody to take a
Speaker 6: chance is because the new ownership and a lot of
Speaker 6: people spoke very highly of the new ownership group. And
Speaker 6: if it held true, you took a chance, you took
Speaker 6: a risk, and it pays off for you. But these
Speaker 6: other situations, Carolina, what's going on with it? I mean,
Speaker 6: I like the Giants in terms of their ownership, but
Speaker 6: it just has not seemed as though I wonder if
Speaker 6: there was a interior rating of what the culture was
Speaker 6: going to be for the New York Giants, because I
Speaker 6: wasn't too far after the original Mara and Tishes were there.
Speaker 6: So I just wonder, was that is this? And listen,
Speaker 6: I want to be careful about it because you know,
Speaker 6: I'm a former Giant and I have a respect for
Speaker 6: the mayor and Tish family that are there currently. But
Speaker 6: I just wonder did they Is it the same situation
Speaker 6: that took place in Washington where you saw a new
Speaker 6: owner take what a Cook family had built and the
Speaker 6: culture that was built, and it deteriorated over time. I
Speaker 6: just don't know if that's what's going on here, because
Speaker 6: it doesn't seem as though it looks as though the
Speaker 6: Giants are remotely even close to heading in the right
Speaker 6: direction away from the bottom.
Speaker 5: What about the Jets.
Speaker 6: I feel the same way about the Jets, like I
Speaker 6: wouldn't want that job. I don't think there's a job opening.
Speaker 6: Name one job opening that you would say, you know what,
Speaker 6: I feel comfortable with my odds going in there.
Speaker 5: Name one? Yeah, I can't. That's why they're open.
Speaker 6: I mean some good jobs open, though they're like I
Speaker 6: would have said, I I would have said the Jets
Speaker 6: was possibly a good opening if you didn't have Woody
Speaker 6: Johnson as the owner, I would have said the Bears
Speaker 6: were a good opening.
Speaker 5: If I don't know, I don't know them that well.
Speaker 6: The mcskes, I don't know them that well, so I
Speaker 6: won't speak on them.
Speaker 5: I don't know.
Speaker 4: Apparently Jim Harbaugh wasn't interested in the Bears job last year,
Speaker 4: but Kevin Warren kind of put a stop to that.
Speaker 6: I mean, people have said things about the Rams and
Speaker 6: how they do things and how they run things, but
Speaker 6: it seems as though that's not the case. I mean,
Speaker 6: I feel like McVeigh has done really really well and
Speaker 6: thrive since taking over the Rams.
Speaker 5: And then you look at the Chargers.
Speaker 6: People have said certain things about the Chargers and how
Speaker 6: they feel the Chargers are ran, and I feel like
Speaker 6: Harball is there doing doing the hell of a job
Speaker 6: right now. I don't Maybe it's touch and go, I
Speaker 6: don't know, Maybe it's hit or miss. Maybe maybe the
Speaker 6: relationship that one of these coaches would come in and
Speaker 6: have with with the ownership would lend to the environment
Speaker 6: and the culture, maybe having an opportunity to change, Maybe
Speaker 6: they have an epiphany. I mean, is there a possibility
Speaker 6: that Woody Johnson is looking at everything that's going on
Speaker 6: and maybe the lowest point of all of this is
Speaker 6: as an owner of an organization that you have to
Speaker 6: see reports on the fact that you're you're being talked
Speaker 6: about in a way where your kids said, don't pick
Speaker 6: this guy because of a Madden rating. I mean, do
Speaker 6: you get an epiphany? Do you do you look in
Speaker 6: the mirror after that and you say, you know what,
Speaker 6: I've been very successful in my life and I'm going
Speaker 6: to adapt and I'm going to adjust it, and I'm
Speaker 6: going to hire somebody who I Am going to relinquish
Speaker 6: my power and let them do what it is that
Speaker 6: they need to do to build our team to be
Speaker 6: the best team they could be.
Speaker 5: Maybe he has an epiphany.
Speaker 4: Jack and Brick, you just never you just never know.
Speaker 4: Those are his trusted scouts. Yeah, you just never know
Speaker 4: it there. Now, what about this, because I'm wondering whether
Speaker 4: or not you guys are going to be the next
Speaker 4: to UH to go online with this. Deshaun Jackson is
Speaker 4: apparently about set or I don't think if it's finalized yet,
Speaker 4: but they are working on a deal to finalize him
Speaker 4: as the brand new head coach at Delaware State.
Speaker 3: Hell yeah, let's go.
Speaker 5: This is the this is the new friend.
Speaker 3: I love this, man.
Speaker 2: I love the fact that there's a lot of former
Speaker 2: players who are getting opportunities to coach.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 2: I mean look in saying that, that's if the organization
Speaker 2: would there be a university, whether it be a professional team,
Speaker 2: they have to give them time. Like if you're gonna
Speaker 2: make that decision to bring in a guy who's never
Speaker 2: been there before, you have to understand he's got a
Speaker 2: completely different perspective. He's he's gonna come at you know,
Speaker 2: at you from some different angles that you're probably not
Speaker 2: accustomed to.
Speaker 3: Or he's not he's gonna be unaware of a lot of.
Speaker 2: The duties responsibility sometimes so as long as there's patience
Speaker 2: to go along with it.
Speaker 3: But I love that.
Speaker 2: I love that for DeShawn Jackson, I love that for
Speaker 2: Delaware State, those players. I just I've met so many
Speaker 2: former players that they're in different you know, jobs or careers.
Speaker 3: At this point, I'm thinking, man, they'd be a great coach.
Speaker 2: And I think there's a lot of deterrence to want
Speaker 2: to become a coach sometimes and sometimes it's it's the
Speaker 2: track to get there, the long hours, to sacrifice everything else.
Speaker 3: That's a part of that.
Speaker 2: And I understand there's a lot of listeners who are like, well,
Speaker 2: should they have to so yeah, to a degree, but
Speaker 2: they also have a PhD in football. Seawan Jackson played
Speaker 2: for a long time, was really successful, so it's maybe
Speaker 2: not in that respect, you know, maybe as far from
Speaker 2: the administrative standpoint, maybe there's something there, but I don't know.
Speaker 2: I love that from Mike Vick when I heard the news.
Speaker 2: I love it for Deshaun Jackson. I wish, you know, more,
Speaker 2: more universities and schools would take on the fact that
Speaker 2: there's a lot of really smart former football players out
Speaker 2: there that are trying to get involved in coaching, impacting
Speaker 2: young men. And I don't know, I just I love
Speaker 2: hearing that. I love hearing when universities take the opportunity
Speaker 2: to take that risk, obviously because there's a risk that
Speaker 2: comes along with it, but to turn the keys over
Speaker 2: to a former player, I mean, LaVall, I know you've coached,
Speaker 2: and everyone's got their own reasons for doing it or
Speaker 2: not doing it, but like you fall in that category.
Speaker 5: Man.
Speaker 6: I mean, I feel like, now we can do everything
Speaker 6: we want to do and still coach, so why not
Speaker 6: think about it?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 5: We could still do radio and do shows, and not,
Speaker 5: you know, not have to choose.
Speaker 3: Is that what you're gonna do? Do that three am
Speaker 3: wake up call?
Speaker 6: I mean I'll say this, I'll say this, que we
Speaker 6: do this show, and I when I do the show
Speaker 6: out of State College, I am the only one in
Speaker 6: the building. Yeah, I am the only one in the building.
Speaker 6: And midway through our last hours when I start to
Speaker 6: see life come into the building. So if I'm only
Speaker 6: thirty minutes off, you know, I'm just saying I got
Speaker 6: the rest of my day. We could make the schedule.
Speaker 6: I mean, let's think about it. Let's talk about it.
Speaker 6: You know, I think you and I should think about this.
Speaker 6: And like I said, we'll make Jonas like ours.
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh yeah, that's talk about you.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm roping you. Yeah, I'm roping. I think you
Speaker 6: need to be the GM and I need to be
Speaker 6: the coach. That's what I think, GM and coach, and
Speaker 6: we'll do it that way.
Speaker 3: Well, what's Jonah's gonna do?
Speaker 6: So Jonas would be the designated because he's he's good
Speaker 6: at this, he's got a background in it. He would
Speaker 6: lead up ticket sales, all right. We put him as
Speaker 6: the person that leads up ticket sales.
Speaker 5: And and Lee.
Speaker 6: We would have Lee that we'd have Lee head up
Speaker 6: the sanitary you know crew, the sanitation crew that that
Speaker 6: takes care. No, No, I don't want Lee being involved. Yeah,
Speaker 6: I want Lee to make sure that the bathrooms are
Speaker 6: clean and and like all the locker room make sure
Speaker 6: that the locker rooms. Yeah, make sure the locker rooms
Speaker 6: are clean, all that good stuff. But you know, I
Speaker 6: think that would be good if he led that, led
Speaker 6: that division.
Speaker 5: And then we can we oft we out.
Speaker 3: We on the we on the roll.
Speaker 1: We on a roll.
Speaker 6: Now, like, let's go with it. I'm okay with that.
Speaker 6: You know what's interesting. I did want to coach at
Speaker 6: the college level. At one point I thought about I
Speaker 6: thought about going to Arizona State when when a p
Speaker 6: left for Arizona State, Like I thought about it, you know,
Speaker 6: I thought about it a couple of times. I thought
Speaker 6: about going with with coach locked at one point in time. So,
Speaker 6: you know, I loved coaching. But one thing I will say.
Speaker 6: One thing I will say is if you take coaching seriously,
Speaker 6: there is a lot that goes, especially at the college
Speaker 6: and high school level. I don't know so much about
Speaker 6: pro I'm not really privy to it. That way, but
Speaker 6: just being a part of it in terms of how
Speaker 6: I've been a part of, you know, development at the
Speaker 6: college level and at.
Speaker 5: The high school level, there's just.
Speaker 6: As much, if not more emotional emotional work that you
Speaker 6: have to put in and be ready for, and that
Speaker 6: generally is round the clock. So if you're talking about
Speaker 6: you know, schematics and different things like that x's and o's,
Speaker 6: that was something that I was really really like into.
Speaker 6: It's funny. I was looking at a picture of me
Speaker 6: and Urban doing doing we were drawing up plays in
Speaker 6: the avocado room at FS one, and just that was
Speaker 6: something than that I could do all day long, is
Speaker 6: just listen and interact with a coach of his his
Speaker 6: caliber and us draw up plays and look at like
Speaker 6: what schematically, what what this does, what it means? You know,
Speaker 6: how does that impact you know, coverage, how does this pool?
Speaker 6: This player there, whatever, so on and so forth. I
Speaker 6: really enjoyed that as a coach and as a player.
Speaker 6: I just think people ef it up all the time.
Speaker 6: There's two people that eff it up, administrators e f
Speaker 6: it up and parents. Those are the two entities as
Speaker 6: to why I left football. I don't like administrators. I
Speaker 6: think they get in the way. So if you don't,
Speaker 6: if you don't find yourself in a good situation where
Speaker 6: the people that are making decisions aren't aren't supportive, and
Speaker 6: aren't on board with what you want to do, that
Speaker 6: is it's a waste of time and parents and parents
Speaker 6: are probably number one. I hate to say it, but
Speaker 6: it's our number one. I don't like parents. Would you
Speaker 6: rather be an NFL or college coach? Honestly, you have
Speaker 6: more things you have to do at the college level,
Speaker 6: But I would love to be a college coach more
Speaker 6: than a pro coach because I think there's still more
Speaker 6: of a humanistic side to being a coach in college.
Speaker 6: And I mean it's probably because they're still developing, is
Speaker 6: that I think so? I think so because I'm more
Speaker 6: into it that way. Then it's just cut dry. This
Speaker 6: is your job. You do it like I don't like
Speaker 6: having to feel that way.
Speaker 2: I think the other thing that is appealing because of that,
Speaker 2: and I think, look, Nil, you know gets the uh,
Speaker 2: I don't know, probably the wrong. I don't know if
Speaker 2: it's a connotation to it, but like people think because
Speaker 2: Anil has infiltrated college football that like everyone's turning the pros,
Speaker 2: and all these kids are are jerks and it's all
Speaker 2: about money. Look, it probably is for the top, you know,
Speaker 2: two three percent. I mean, the rest of some of
Speaker 2: these kids, especially a big schools, are gonna make money.
Speaker 2: But there's a huge part of them being where they
Speaker 2: are because of things outside of football, like the education,
Speaker 2: the the alumni, the experience, the networking, the whatever's gonna
Speaker 2: happen after football's done. So I do think that's a
Speaker 2: cool part to hear you say that because the majority,
Speaker 2: the large majority of college football players aren't going pro, right,
Speaker 2: Like I figure out what the exact percentage is, a
Speaker 2: three percent and something like that, but whatever the number is,
Speaker 2: there's a large portion that aren't. And so you are
Speaker 2: coaching into them things that they need to worry about
Speaker 2: as a father, as a dad, as a business owner,
Speaker 2: as an employee, like whatever the case is. It's all
Speaker 2: those lessons that the game teaches you that you're trying
Speaker 2: to share with them. So I get that. That's and
Speaker 2: again that's why I get excited when I see like
Speaker 2: Deshaun Jackson or I see Mike Vick And just from
Speaker 2: knowing Mike a little bit from Fox, like like that's
Speaker 2: a guy that has so many life experiences that he
Speaker 2: can share with young people who are still trying to
Speaker 2: figure it out, and hopefully, you know, be able to
Speaker 2: get in touch with them in a way that leads
Speaker 2: them down a path where they can avoid some of
Speaker 2: the things. I mean, look as a father now, like
Speaker 2: I've got four kids, I'm already I have a fifth
Speaker 2: coming up here, and I can tell you right now,
Speaker 2: my six year old daughter is the type that unfortunately,
Speaker 2: she just has to make mistakes like she has.
Speaker 3: She's just I've.
Speaker 2: Tried my best at this point in time of her life,
Speaker 2: and hopefully I can get it out of her, but
Speaker 2: I try to get it to realize, Like she doesn't
Speaker 2: need to touch the stove that's hot when Dad tells
Speaker 2: her it's hot, But she's the type that needs to.
Speaker 6: Do that because she wants to know how hot does
Speaker 6: hot mean? She wants to rundstand what your level? Because
Speaker 6: I was im, that's who I was. It's like, don't
Speaker 6: touch it, it's hot, you'll get burnt. But really will
Speaker 6: it burn me or would it just burn you?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 5: Is it hot enough to burn you and not hot
Speaker 5: enough to burn me?
Speaker 6: Or is this hot really like, oh yeah, like I
Speaker 6: touch it, like that is hot.
Speaker 2: Now appreciate now I get it. Have you just talked
Speaker 2: to her on speakerphone? Then from now on so I'm
Speaker 2: gonna call you probably five times a day to have
Speaker 2: to talk my six year old off the ledge of
Speaker 2: whatever decisions she's about ready to make. But but the
Speaker 2: whole point is, like obviously, if if whoever it is,
Speaker 2: you know, former player guys like Mike Vick, like Deshaun Jackson,
Speaker 2: when they can you know, speak into these guys' lives
Speaker 2: like it could be life changing, like college.
Speaker 6: It is life changing. Listen, I'll say this. I just
Speaker 6: sent man Man to to Penn State yesterday. We just
Speaker 6: dropped him off to go to Penn State and get
Speaker 6: you know, get going with the team yesterday. And that
Speaker 6: was that was an earth moving experience to know that
Speaker 6: that's what he grew up around.
Speaker 5: I've coached.
Speaker 6: I coached pretty much his entire life, whether it was
Speaker 6: under Armour games, whether it was doing the under Armour camps,
Speaker 6: coaching at Long Beach Polleague, coaching at Mayri Natha, coaching
Speaker 6: at Charter Oak. I've coached his entire life. And the
Speaker 6: one thing that was always important was the development, the
Speaker 6: growth of belief, the development the growth of understanding self confidence,
Speaker 6: self worth, you know, being accountable, learning accountability. You know,
Speaker 6: one thing that you find to be very challenging is
Speaker 6: is that a lot of young young men these days
Speaker 6: don't even understand what accountability really represents, and then what
Speaker 6: self accountability.
Speaker 5: You know, what it truly represents.
Speaker 6: And just have an opportunity to be a part of
Speaker 6: that growth and that understanding and illuminating moments. I think
Speaker 6: you're one hundred percent right, Q, because I think if
Speaker 6: a guy can't you know, part of me getting back
Speaker 6: in shape.
Speaker 5: To the audience out there that doesn't know this, I
Speaker 5: was like obeses.
Speaker 6: I was like super fat and fat, my face, fat,
Speaker 6: my belly, just overweight, And I started.
Speaker 3: You always do this, that's so over the top.
Speaker 6: The reason fat, the reason why I went back into
Speaker 6: my lige.
Speaker 4: Why he's the mom from what TD Gilbert Crape.
Speaker 5: I'm not that big. We had to burn the house down.
Speaker 5: It was not that big, bro.
Speaker 3: You were never as big as you.
Speaker 5: Always think big.
Speaker 6: Super It was almost three hundred pounds, man, it was
Speaker 6: almost three hundred pounds. Like I was like five ten
Speaker 6: pounds away from from three hundred that's big as hell,
Speaker 6: that's like I'm on my way to two forty five.
Speaker 6: Two thirty eight said I'm on my way too. And
Speaker 6: part of the reason why I went on that journey
Speaker 6: to get myself back in shape is because I still
Speaker 6: have great relationships with guys at Penn State and guys
Speaker 6: that are in high school, and I can't be walking
Speaker 6: around them being fat and out of shape and not
Speaker 6: taking care of myself and telling them about self accountability
Speaker 6: and doing things the right way and making sure that
Speaker 6: you handle you know your your health and your nutrition.
Speaker 6: It's like they're looking at me like you're not doing it,
Speaker 6: you don't do it, And I was, and on God,
Speaker 6: that is a large part, a large reason. And thanks
Speaker 6: to PhD weight loss doctor. By the way, I took
Speaker 6: that journey. I knew this was coming.
Speaker 5: I took that journey a lee.
Speaker 4: There's your live spot fare.
Speaker 3: Going.
Speaker 5: It's the truth though, I mean, you do look great.
Speaker 5: Thank you, yeah, thank you? You shoot me all right? Thank you?
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Speaker 5: Tell me how that works. You go from being on
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Speaker 4: It's like the opposite of a parlay. No, you can't
Speaker 4: already did no one there?
Speaker 5: It is the Dan.
Speaker 4: Patrick Show here on Fox Sports Radio. I'm telling you, man,
Speaker 4: these the Latin news networks, they're really it's a different presentation,
Speaker 4: you know, just the whole thing, the whole the whole
Speaker 4: morning news of a different presentation the way they do
Speaker 4: it there. So it's fun. It is the Dan Patrick
Speaker 4: Show here on Fox Sports Radio. LeVar Arrington, Brady Quinn,
Speaker 4: Jonas in for Dan.
Speaker 5: And the guys.
Speaker 4: By the way, a little over fifteen minutes from now,
Speaker 4: we're going to present to this audience something we do
Speaker 4: on our show to Rows and a cup of Joe.
Speaker 5: It's called Lee's Leftovers.
Speaker 4: We basically turn it over, turned the keys over to Lee,
Speaker 4: and Lee our producer and just as God for help
Speaker 4: and say basically, you know, like you're just hoping that
Speaker 4: before you pull the shoot, you're hoping that it works,
Speaker 4: you know. So we're gonna we're gonna dust that one
Speaker 4: off and try it out in the audience here coming
Speaker 4: up in a little over fifteen minutes from now. I'd
Speaker 4: like to uh, I would like to admit something that
Speaker 4: I got wrong.
Speaker 3: Apologize what do you get wrong?
Speaker 2: But what did you what did you make a far
Speaker 2: too early declaration of.
Speaker 4: So for people that weren't listening, we were discussing the
Speaker 4: MVP in the NFL, and about three weeks ago, I said,
Speaker 4: it's a done deal. Get the shovel out, start putting
Speaker 4: the dirt on the casket, you know, like everything is Yeah,
Speaker 4: it is over. Josh Allen is the MVP of the league.
Speaker 4: Like I was convinced. And then Lamar Jackson kept playing
Speaker 4: football for the past three weeks and I'm like, you
Speaker 4: know what, I got it wrong. He is by far
Speaker 4: and away the best quarterback in the NFL this season,
Speaker 4: by far and away the MVP of the season. I'm
Speaker 4: not saying he's going to win it, but right now
Speaker 4: the odds have slipped, Josh Allen is still a two
Speaker 4: to one favorite. I think there's a real shot, and
Speaker 4: there's like a ground swell of support for people going,
Speaker 4: hold on a second, we're really just not gonna give
Speaker 4: it to him because we're fatigued by what he's doing.
Speaker 4: He was the MVP last year and he's significantly better
Speaker 4: this year. And just watching him the other day, I'm like,
Speaker 4: don't I don't know who you like look at Josh
Speaker 4: Allen's resume and go, oh yeah, I know Hubberd saying
Speaker 4: give it over to man like Lamar Jackson's the best
Speaker 4: quarterback in the NFL. And I was way wrong on that.
Speaker 4: So I would like to apologize to you guys here
Speaker 4: on the show.
Speaker 2: I mean, didn't we try to warn you of this
Speaker 2: and making this proclamation that Josh Allen on it?
Speaker 3: After what game? Was it that you declared that that
Speaker 3: was it?
Speaker 5: Was it?
Speaker 4: The was it the Lions getting not the Lions. It
Speaker 4: was before that, even when they lost to the Rams.
Speaker 4: I said, oh god, look what he did in that game.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's kind of weird. It's kind of weird. Lamar
Speaker 3: is so good.
Speaker 6: I mean he's playing lights out right now. Yeah, he's hitting,
Speaker 6: he's so balanced, and he's doing it in so many
Speaker 6: different ways. And listen, you can throw the argument point
Speaker 6: out that you know he does have Derrick Henry to
Speaker 6: to run the football for him. Uh, but I would again,
Speaker 6: we talked about this on the show yesterday, I would
Speaker 6: argue that Derrick Henry. If you're going to say Lamar
Speaker 6: Jackson needs Derrick Henry, I would say that Derek Henry
Speaker 6: needs Lamar Jackson just as much, if not more. And
Speaker 6: the idea that you now have to have you have
Speaker 6: to play it honest on both sides and honest for
Speaker 6: the defense, meaning I can't I can't take a chance like, Okay,
Speaker 6: we can stop this running back. So I'm gonna go.
Speaker 6: We gotta get on our horse and go after that
Speaker 6: that quarterback because we can't let him get you know,
Speaker 6: get in the open. It's gonna be tough, or if
Speaker 6: we take too long, he actually will find someone down
Speaker 6: the field. You can't say that with the running back
Speaker 6: because if you let Derek Henry get his shoulders pointing
Speaker 6: north south, you're gonna have an issue. I don't care
Speaker 6: how good you are, you're gonna have a problem trying
Speaker 6: to deal with him. So you got to stay at
Speaker 6: home and you gotta play it. Those RPOs are freaking
Speaker 6: hell to deal with with this Ravens team. And what'd
Speaker 6: you say you get give credit to the offensive coordinator
Speaker 6: they brought in Monken and just taking the strengths of
Speaker 6: what he does Lamar Jackson does, and then adding a
Speaker 6: running back and taking the strengths of what he does
Speaker 6: and adding that to the total hole of what they
Speaker 6: both bring to the table.
Speaker 5: What's it like as a defender when you got to
Speaker 5: see those.
Speaker 6: I'm telling you, it's a it's a it's a major
Speaker 6: it's a major headache to defend, even if you're prepared
Speaker 6: for it. You know, you know the tendencies, you know
Speaker 6: what they're going to do. It's just a whole nother
Speaker 6: thing to have to stop it.
Speaker 4: Was there any combination close to that? No, Like, what
Speaker 4: was the most daunting quarterback running back combo you.
Speaker 5: Dealt with running wise, I mean I would no, don't.
Speaker 6: Know, so this is just another level. Yeah, bro was
Speaker 6: work done with with Mike Vick. I don't know if
Speaker 6: they were together that I mean, I don't remember, so
Speaker 6: it wouldn't be like I'm not going to say it's significant.
Speaker 6: I don't think there's a significant running back they were together,
Speaker 6: that's I mean, that's but they weren't running RPOs like
Speaker 6: it wasn't it wasn't as evolved offenses Lamar Jackson.
Speaker 5: No, I don't think.
Speaker 6: I wouldn't go. I wouldn't get carried away with that.
Speaker 6: I just I just think that the way offenses have
Speaker 6: evolved and where where offensive schemes have gone, it is
Speaker 6: much more friendly to a mobile quarterback than what it's
Speaker 6: ever have been in time.
Speaker 2: So like like I would have loved to see Michael Vick,
Speaker 2: and it's it's tough because you know, Vic probably has
Speaker 2: a stronger arm and I don't know. To Levar's point,
Speaker 2: offenses are much more conducive to fitting around the skill
Speaker 2: set of a quarterback now, whereas when Mike Vick came
Speaker 2: to the league, I mean they were probably trying to
Speaker 2: coach him up on the different seven and five step
Speaker 2: drops and play action and fakes and all that crap
Speaker 2: like instead of just building the entire offense around. And
Speaker 2: I'm sure there's certain things that they put in for
Speaker 2: him specifically, but not like today game.
Speaker 6: It's entirely different. It's different, man, and listen. Skill Wise,
Speaker 6: I think they're built differently. I think they as I
Speaker 6: mentioned before, I think they both have skill sets that
Speaker 6: are similar, and I think they both have skill sets
Speaker 6: that are very unique to them. But looking at the
Speaker 6: way the balance in which they're playing in Baltimore right now,
Speaker 6: and the idea that you're seeing the numbers go down
Speaker 6: in terms of Lamar Jackson's rushing yards and his attempts
Speaker 6: to on running, and yet he's still getting and he's
Speaker 6: getting less yards, but he is still running the ball
Speaker 6: when it makes sense and running it well. But he's
Speaker 6: looking to find his receivers more than what he has
Speaker 6: in years past, and that could be the big differentiator
Speaker 6: going into this year's playoffs, is that he's going to
Speaker 6: find the open guy you're trying to pull up as
Speaker 6: a defense, and you got to make it decision. Do
Speaker 6: I stay in coverage or do I try to go
Speaker 6: get him? If I stay in coverage and he comes
Speaker 6: up out of that backfield, I might not get to him.
Speaker 6: If I go to get to him and he sees it,
Speaker 6: he's gonna let it go and go and go downfield. Oh,
Speaker 6: by the way, on the backside. Because we're doing this
Speaker 6: RPO style offense. If he hands the ball off before
Speaker 6: we even get to that point of him stressing you
Speaker 6: out on holding the ball and keeping it as a
Speaker 6: run pass option, he may hand it off to to Derek.
Speaker 6: And if he hands it off to him, everybody has
Speaker 6: to stay put and stay in place because you don't
Speaker 6: know if he's getting the ball. If he gets the ball,
Speaker 6: you got a rally to Derrick Henry immediately. You got
Speaker 6: to one guy may not get him and if he
Speaker 6: gets his shoulders turned, now you gotta start thinking about
Speaker 6: business decisions going forward and not ain't what you want
Speaker 6: an entire game.
Speaker 5: It's just the perfect storm man.
Speaker 6: Jalen Hurts and Saquan had this, But Jalen Hurts is, no,
Speaker 6: we're near the amount of skill and talent in terms
Speaker 6: of just pure athleticism going along with what goes with
Speaker 6: what he brings.
Speaker 5: To the table.
Speaker 6: That would be the closest comp But but Lamar and
Speaker 6: Derek are on. That's a whole different that's a different
Speaker 6: stratosphere if you ask me.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and now we get to see whether or not
Speaker 4: it plays out in a deep run in the postseason.
Speaker 2: Jonas got a quick question for you, because you are
Speaker 2: one that likes to make bets.
Speaker 3: You're a betting man.
Speaker 2: Sure, and in the past you have made some outlandish
Speaker 2: bets and you haven't necessarily paid up for all of them.
Speaker 2: I'm sure Lee can try to find that somewhere where
Speaker 2: you've made some bets about different color analysts for TV.
Speaker 2: But that being said, that being said, would you like
Speaker 2: to make a bet now on the Dan Patrick Shawan
Speaker 2: live air what you will do if Josh Allen does
Speaker 2: not win the MVP.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I mean you've made this proclamation a few weeks and
Speaker 2: you got to pay it. Yeah, you actually have.
Speaker 3: To follow through.
Speaker 2: I mean, there was something about Tony Romo making over
Speaker 2: ten million a year or something one time.
Speaker 3: He never paid that one up.
Speaker 4: By the way, if Tony Roma gets ten million dollars
Speaker 4: a year, I'm getting a sex change.
Speaker 5: First of all, that.
Speaker 6: Still Jonas knocks, and I'm looking at Jonas Knocks voice
Speaker 6: is still the same, everything still the same.
Speaker 2: We can still really aggravate you and get you motivated
Speaker 2: by tapping the truck nuts as the earlier.
Speaker 6: Yeah you can. You can double down on that bet
Speaker 6: that you did not pay up on all those years
Speaker 6: ago by making the double down bet to date right now?
Speaker 6: All right, So Lamar has a grill, right, he does
Speaker 6: have a grill. Josh Allen doesn't win MVP.
Speaker 3: I have to do it.
Speaker 2: I'm not real, not a show. I'm not paying for it.
Speaker 2: I'm not paying for that. I want to be upfront.
Speaker 5: I'll do the Rob Parker.
Speaker 6: You got to wear it to grill for like a
Speaker 6: month straight and you can't take it out except to
Speaker 6: go to sleep.
Speaker 5: I'll do. You know what the Rob Parker grill is?
Speaker 3: What's what tinfoil?
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 3: No, no, no, by the way, that's by the way,
Speaker 3: that's not the Rob Parker one. That's yours. But you're
Speaker 3: a cheap ass too, So.
Speaker 5: No, I didn't do it. Rob Parker did for Halloween.
Speaker 3: I'm sure that might be the case.
Speaker 2: But you do the you do the beyond Jonas Knox version,
Speaker 2: which is that cheap ass version you're gonna try to pull.
Speaker 5: I don't know, I don't know what.
Speaker 6: Yeah, you gotta switch it up. Not not a grill.
Speaker 6: Come on, let's go back to pole pumps twenty pole
Speaker 6: pumps live live.
Speaker 3: No one even knows what that is.
Speaker 2: You're the only person I've ever heard talk about a
Speaker 2: pole pump pump.
Speaker 6: The poll people know about it. Twitter in Xen they know,
Speaker 6: they know what the polls the idea about that.
Speaker 5: I don't trust they all know it. I don't trust it.
Speaker 5: Already did that already done?
Speaker 6: Yeah, repeat the latest one done? Already already handled it
Speaker 6: all right.
Speaker 5: I just know that.
Speaker 3: Listen.
Speaker 4: If you want to, uh like really attack that Ravens offense,
Speaker 4: you probably gotta have a good defense.
Speaker 5: You need better communication, I would say, is that right?
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Speaker 1: Please might smell a little fun, what sounds incredible, but
Speaker 1: they're still good. Time to find out what's lap? It's
Speaker 1: Lee's Lap?
Speaker 5: Overs.
Speaker 4: All right, we've turned the keys over to lead to
Speaker 4: lap our executive producer.
Speaker 5: Buckle up, Lee, let's try this out with this audience.
Speaker 7: All right, let's try it out.
Speaker 8: We obviously have a holiday week of football all week long.
Speaker 7: But today we have five college bowl games.
Speaker 8: Hell yeah, including the Armed Horses Bowl kicking things off
Speaker 8: Oklahoma versus Navy. Later, we have the Holiday Bowl on
Speaker 8: Fox between Syracuse and Washington State.
Speaker 3: Yes, all right, sweet.
Speaker 8: Also got Georgia Tech versus Vanderbilt, Texas Tech versus Arkansas.
Speaker 8: That's the Liberty Bowl, Birmingham Bull and Las Vegas Ball
Speaker 8: later this evening.
Speaker 3: So we've got them.
Speaker 2: We've got the Armed Forces Bull starting up here in
Speaker 2: about ten minutes on the East Coast.
Speaker 3: What twelve pm Eastern? Lee?
Speaker 2: How many of these games are gonna be sober for?
Speaker 2: There's four of them today, the last one starts at
Speaker 2: a pm Eastern? How many will you be sober for?
Speaker 8: I will be sober for the first two and then
Speaker 8: probably around a Liberty Bowl.
Speaker 2: No, buddy, you've got maybe one game. I actually think
Speaker 2: maybe one half.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I was gonna say halftime of the Oklahoma Navy.
Speaker 5: Gets turned Lee.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's not even it's not even nine o'clock out here,
Speaker 4: isn't this bloody Mary hour?
Speaker 8: That's a good call, you know what, you guys are right.
Speaker 8: I'm gonna go get a bloody Mary after this.
Speaker 1: Way.
Speaker 3: That was really hard. That was really hard Friday. It
Speaker 3: is right.
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's the holidays.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know you put on some Jimmy Buffett this
Speaker 2: time of year, A little bloody Mary for you lead,
Speaker 2: put on some college football.
Speaker 3: I think that goes well.
Speaker 8: Yeah, start, start the start the bubbles on the hot tub.
Speaker 7: I think your guys are got.
Speaker 5: Heat up the hot tub. What what hot up my
Speaker 5: hot tub? Wait? Wait you're a hot what wait?
Speaker 3: Wait?
Speaker 5: Wait what what hot tub? Where is it?
Speaker 7: I got a hot tub at the Folks Place, damn
Speaker 7: over there.
Speaker 3: So your it's your folks is hot tub.
Speaker 5: Yeah. Will you be alone or will you be a coompanied?
Speaker 5: First game? Will be alone?
Speaker 3: Oklahoma's gonna say, are your parents gonna walk in on you?
Speaker 3: Just sipping a bloody marry watching college football.
Speaker 5: In the hot hot It wouldn't be the first.
Speaker 7: Wouldn't be the first time. It probably won't be then, By.
Speaker 4: The way, where are the all the USC fans that
Speaker 4: were claiming us c's back after they opened up the
Speaker 4: year in Vegas and beat LSU only and up right
Speaker 4: back in Vegas to book n year in the Las
Speaker 4: Vegas Bowl against Texas A, and M sure that'll be
Speaker 4: a packed house there for this nothing else going on
Speaker 4: in Vegas.
Speaker 5: What a waste, tang.
Speaker 8: Guys, if you do need a break from the football,
Speaker 8: which I don't know why you would, but if you did,
Speaker 8: lots of good movies out this weekend, A complete unknown
Speaker 8: on Bob Dylan, no splitter out to Vampire movie and
Speaker 8: uh what just.
Speaker 5: Open Lion King?
Speaker 6: Yeah, Move Move FOSSA was better than the original, better
Speaker 6: than the original, and yes I did.
Speaker 5: Okay, Fire Fire movie.
Speaker 8: That's the one I haven't seen yet. I'll go see
Speaker 8: that Fire the Fire. Speaking of Fire, the Fire inside
Speaker 8: is a sports biography film on Oressa Shields.
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's supposed to be pretty good.
Speaker 8: First American woman to win the Gold So that'd be
Speaker 8: worth checking out as well.
Speaker 4: Out Tang, I thought you said you like boxing, I'm good, okay. Plus,
Speaker 4: I mean, you know the Aaron Rodgers documentary after I
Speaker 4: started in that, you know on Netflix it's hard to
Speaker 4: get in anything else.
Speaker 3: I mean, that's kind of random to bring that up
Speaker 3: out of nowhere.
Speaker 6: I'm just saying he's got a man crush on him.
Speaker 4: Is I think there's a new UFO documentary as well too,
Speaker 4: Is that right?
Speaker 5: What's it called?
Speaker 3: What's that?
Speaker 5: What's we call it? Actually?
Speaker 4: I think it's called the Program by program?
Speaker 3: What else you get?
Speaker 7: Squid Games too, just came out and started that game.
Speaker 8: Guy's an update on Panthers rookie Xavier Leget obviously made
Speaker 8: the rounds last week talking about eating some raccoon over
Speaker 8: the over the holiday time. Our teammates, She and a
Speaker 8: quick out of FSR thirteen forty and Charlotte says she
Speaker 8: had tried some. He pulled it out of his locker room.
Speaker 8: She said, it was very well seasoned, very spicy.
Speaker 4: What do you mean, he, what is it like beef jerky?
Speaker 8: It looks like a pulled pork al mostly? Yes, it
Speaker 8: looked very stringy.
Speaker 5: Eh, very strange.
Speaker 4: I'm not eating anything. We got hit by a truck.
Speaker 4: It might have not a gout hit by truck.
Speaker 5: Bro.
Speaker 6: It might not have been road kill. I mean, they
Speaker 6: will do that, but it just is it's not always
Speaker 6: rod killed. They might have hunted thecoon like Why can't
Speaker 6: you just eat like something else? I get a tune
Speaker 6: of sandwich. I don't know how to respond to it.
Speaker 6: Just it's not enough time.
Speaker 5: Was that Italy Well?
Speaker 8: An update on our flying friend in the studio, mister
Speaker 8: Bat that got away a few weeks ago.
Speaker 7: I think I might have found it. Might could smell
Speaker 7: them above my desk.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I smell something over there.
Speaker 3: There's there's a course.
Speaker 6: Uh, let one go, stand a chance. It's also on
Speaker 6: his chair very weekend