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What we're going to do today, 32 00:02:01,520 --> 00:02:04,240 Speaker 1: I have six different traits that I want to touch 33 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:06,920 Speaker 1: on briefly, and we'll kind of go rapid fire through those. 34 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:09,760 Speaker 1: Then I want to talk about the Lakers doing nothing 35 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:11,919 Speaker 1: and what that means, and we're gonna actually go into 36 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:14,280 Speaker 1: much more detail about that tomorrow because we have Jovan 37 00:02:14,320 --> 00:02:17,400 Speaker 1: Buja from the Athletic coming onto the show to break 38 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 1: down in detail the Lakers deadline strategy and what they're 39 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:22,519 Speaker 1: looking at in this summer and then I want to 40 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 1: talk a little bit about Spencer Dinwoodie was one of 41 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:27,720 Speaker 1: the more interesting buyout candidates that you'll see in recent 42 00:02:27,800 --> 00:02:29,400 Speaker 1: NBA history. A bunch of teams, I think are going 43 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:31,720 Speaker 1: to be looking out for him on that front. And 44 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:34,919 Speaker 1: then we have three instant reactions from last night's games 45 00:02:34,919 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 1: that we're going to get to at the end of 46 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:38,640 Speaker 1: the show. We got Pelicans Clippers. The Pelicans went into 47 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:41,400 Speaker 1: LA and kind of man handled the Clippers last night. 48 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:44,359 Speaker 1: It was an interesting game. Then the Warriors got to 49 00:02:44,360 --> 00:02:46,600 Speaker 1: blow out win in Philly against the Sixers, obviously without 50 00:02:46,639 --> 00:02:49,000 Speaker 1: Joel Embiid, and then the Boston Celtics and kind of 51 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:50,760 Speaker 1: a little bit of a dogfight with the Atlanta Hawks, 52 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:52,840 Speaker 1: but they pulled out, pulled it out late in the 53 00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:56,079 Speaker 1: game to get the win. So three instant reactions and 54 00:02:56,160 --> 00:02:57,840 Speaker 1: a bunch of deadline stuff. You guys are the joe 55 00:02:57,840 --> 00:02:59,799 Speaker 1: forour We get started. 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And then, last but not at least, 65 00:03:21,320 --> 00:03:24,040 Speaker 1: keep dropping mailbag questions in the YouTube comments so that 66 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:26,600 Speaker 1: we can keep hitting them throughout the rest of the season. 67 00:03:26,600 --> 00:03:29,200 Speaker 1: All right, let's talk some basketball. So the first of 68 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:31,640 Speaker 1: our six trades that we're going to talk about today 69 00:03:32,040 --> 00:03:36,040 Speaker 1: Patrick Beverley to the Milwaukee Bucks. So if you guys 70 00:03:36,080 --> 00:03:38,240 Speaker 1: remember in the video that I did on Tuesday where 71 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:40,840 Speaker 1: I talked about the five trades that I wanted to 72 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:45,440 Speaker 1: see around the league, there were three specific ones that 73 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:48,480 Speaker 1: ended up getting addressed, just in different ways today. I 74 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:51,240 Speaker 1: wanted the Suns to kind of try to get some 75 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:55,480 Speaker 1: more defensive oriented wings and forwards right. I wanted the 76 00:03:55,720 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 1: Bucks to get a new kind of point of attack 77 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:01,160 Speaker 1: defender to help them in the backcourt. And then I 78 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:03,120 Speaker 1: wanted the Celtics to go get a backup center. And 79 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:04,960 Speaker 1: we saw all three of those over the course of 80 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:08,000 Speaker 1: the last twenty four hours, starting with Patrick Beverly to 81 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 1: the Bucks. So Patrick Beverley, in my opinion, he's one 82 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 1: of those guys where as long as he's focused into 83 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 1: what he's good at, he can be a really useful player. 84 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:23,600 Speaker 1: It's when that kind of expands outside of his kind 85 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:26,080 Speaker 1: of wheelhouse that you can start to see some diminishing 86 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:28,280 Speaker 1: returns there. For instance, when he was with the Lakers, 87 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:31,839 Speaker 1: I thought he did a really good job guarding guards 88 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:35,320 Speaker 1: and then struggled when he had to guard bigger forward. 89 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:37,480 Speaker 1: Some of that was like he had a reputation as 90 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 1: being a guy who could guard bigger forwards, but the 91 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:41,640 Speaker 1: truth of the matter is is that just was never 92 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:44,560 Speaker 1: really a good option, right and that is extended through 93 00:04:44,640 --> 00:04:46,240 Speaker 1: this season. I think he's done a really good job 94 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:48,200 Speaker 1: on guards. I thought he did an amazing job in 95 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:51,719 Speaker 1: that big win against the Denver Nuggets on Jamal Murray. 96 00:04:51,760 --> 00:04:55,080 Speaker 1: It was Joel Embi kind of denying Nikole Jokich and 97 00:04:55,080 --> 00:04:58,720 Speaker 1: then Patrick Beverley just harassing Jamal Murray all over the floor. 98 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:02,039 Speaker 1: So I think there's some trickiness to it with the 99 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:05,960 Speaker 1: Bucks because with Malik Beasley, he's playing with a ton 100 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:07,480 Speaker 1: of confidence right now and he kind of has that 101 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:10,080 Speaker 1: starting spot locked down, and I will be curious to 102 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:12,800 Speaker 1: see if they keep Patrick Beverley on the bench for 103 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:16,520 Speaker 1: that specific reason. But what I really like is it's 104 00:05:16,520 --> 00:05:18,799 Speaker 1: an option that you can go to, Like I said, 105 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:21,839 Speaker 1: in the event that especially given on the matchups, so like, 106 00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:23,960 Speaker 1: for instance, against teams like Boston, where they're gonna be 107 00:05:23,960 --> 00:05:26,800 Speaker 1: doing primarily most of their initiation from the wing, you 108 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:29,239 Speaker 1: might be able to get away with playing Malik Beasley, 109 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:32,880 Speaker 1: But then you know, if you're playing a New York Knix, 110 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:36,280 Speaker 1: then you may feel better off putting a guy like 111 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:38,760 Speaker 1: Patrick Beverley into the starting lineup to start games on 112 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:41,960 Speaker 1: Jalen Brunson and spend more time just ball pressuring and 113 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:44,280 Speaker 1: kind of hawking the basketball right. And so it gives 114 00:05:44,279 --> 00:05:45,920 Speaker 1: them an option now that they can go to. They 115 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:49,480 Speaker 1: can go to a Dame Malik backcourt that's more offensively oriented, 116 00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:52,360 Speaker 1: or they can go to a Patrick Beverley backcourt where 117 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:55,120 Speaker 1: they can give Patrick Beverley a high leverage point of 118 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 1: attack assignment, which I still think he's capable of, especially 119 00:05:58,400 --> 00:06:01,520 Speaker 1: against these smaller guards that we have around the league 120 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:03,280 Speaker 1: on the offensive end of the end of the floor. 121 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:06,880 Speaker 1: With Patrick Beverley, he's one of those guys that I 122 00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:09,479 Speaker 1: think in more of a brute force style where he's 123 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:12,560 Speaker 1: getting kind of wide open catch and shoot looks, he 124 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:15,520 Speaker 1: can have some value. It's more when there's a ton 125 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:17,720 Speaker 1: of motion involved in an offense that he can be 126 00:06:17,760 --> 00:06:19,640 Speaker 1: an issue because he's a little bit of a ball stopper. 127 00:06:19,960 --> 00:06:21,240 Speaker 1: He's a little bit of a guy who likes to 128 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:23,760 Speaker 1: catch and jab step and pump bake before he really 129 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:26,800 Speaker 1: does anything. And so like, I actually like the offensive 130 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:28,720 Speaker 1: fit with the Bucks because I do think he'll get 131 00:06:29,080 --> 00:06:31,360 Speaker 1: wide open catch and shoot threes. And that's kind of 132 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:34,440 Speaker 1: the story with him. He's forty one percent on unguarded 133 00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:37,880 Speaker 1: catch and shoot jumpers twenty eight percent when they're guarded. 134 00:06:38,200 --> 00:06:41,040 Speaker 1: So like, to me, with Milwaukee, he's gonna get some 135 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:44,280 Speaker 1: really good looks that to me is is a good fit. 136 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:46,680 Speaker 1: He also has he's got a little bit off the 137 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:49,000 Speaker 1: dribble pop. He's got like a decent little he'll kind 138 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:51,880 Speaker 1: of dribble to the left and stopping to pivot back 139 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:53,760 Speaker 1: over his left shoulder for a hook shot that he 140 00:06:53,760 --> 00:06:56,040 Speaker 1: can make. And then he's also got a decent floater, 141 00:06:56,120 --> 00:06:58,120 Speaker 1: So he's got a little bit of that higher level 142 00:06:58,120 --> 00:07:00,560 Speaker 1: close out attacking stuff. But the offensive end of the 143 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:02,599 Speaker 1: floor leaves a little bit to be desired with Pat, 144 00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:04,599 Speaker 1: but I still think he's one of the better guard 145 00:07:04,640 --> 00:07:07,600 Speaker 1: defenders in the league. And so the Bucks, without having 146 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:10,720 Speaker 1: to give up anything of significance, found and upgrade there 147 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:14,280 Speaker 1: at the point of attack. Our next trade, the Knicks 148 00:07:14,440 --> 00:07:17,200 Speaker 1: finally get off the Evan forty eight contract, as well 149 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:20,480 Speaker 1: as Quinton Grimes and a little bit of draft compensation 150 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:25,200 Speaker 1: for Boyan Magdonovich and Alec Burks from the Detroit Piston. 151 00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:28,520 Speaker 1: So I really like the boy On Mgdanovich fit, especially 152 00:07:28,520 --> 00:07:31,800 Speaker 1: in the short term because you're dealing with the situation 153 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:33,320 Speaker 1: where Julius Randall is going to be out for a 154 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:36,760 Speaker 1: little while. And I think specifically alongside in ogn and 155 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:39,600 Speaker 1: Obi as a as a really strong athlete at the three, 156 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:42,280 Speaker 1: you can get away with having a lesser athlete at 157 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:44,200 Speaker 1: the four, and boy On Mgdanovich she brings a lot 158 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:47,640 Speaker 1: more scoring pop to the table. Very very good, kind 159 00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:50,800 Speaker 1: of like second side creators. Fifty five percent effective agle 160 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 1: percentage on pull up jump shots this season, excellent closeout attacker, 161 00:07:55,920 --> 00:07:59,160 Speaker 1: one point one to nine points per possession, eightieth percentile 162 00:07:59,280 --> 00:08:02,440 Speaker 1: shot creation day is a little iffy, but everybody in 163 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:06,080 Speaker 1: Detroit struggled with a shot creation that with exception of 164 00:08:06,080 --> 00:08:07,840 Speaker 1: Alec Burks. Actually we're going to talk about here in 165 00:08:07,920 --> 00:08:09,480 Speaker 1: just a second, but I think he's just going to 166 00:08:09,560 --> 00:08:12,880 Speaker 1: help provide an offensive option there at that four spot 167 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:16,760 Speaker 1: while Julius Randall is out. He's also going to bring 168 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:19,160 Speaker 1: kind of a similar approach to Julius Randall in the 169 00:08:19,200 --> 00:08:22,000 Speaker 1: sense that to me, Boy and Macdonovitch is your textbook 170 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:24,440 Speaker 1: matchup attacking forward. He's the guy that can pick on 171 00:08:24,520 --> 00:08:27,040 Speaker 1: a smaller guard and take him down to the block 172 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:29,320 Speaker 1: and get to a little short right shoulder fade or 173 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:31,240 Speaker 1: a little bank shot over his left shoulder or something 174 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:34,640 Speaker 1: along those lines. He can get offense out of mismatches, 175 00:08:34,679 --> 00:08:36,640 Speaker 1: which is a big part of the way that New 176 00:08:36,720 --> 00:08:39,920 Speaker 1: York attacks, and it brings a physical imposition to the 177 00:08:39,920 --> 00:08:42,600 Speaker 1: position as well because he can attack smaller players, which 178 00:08:42,640 --> 00:08:44,960 Speaker 1: I think is something that is part of the theme 179 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:47,200 Speaker 1: of what the New York Knicks do. And the other 180 00:08:47,240 --> 00:08:50,320 Speaker 1: thing too is he's got a non guaranteed nineteen million 181 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:53,160 Speaker 1: I think next year, which the Knicks can guarantee, and 182 00:08:53,240 --> 00:08:55,480 Speaker 1: they can just as easily use as salary filler as 183 00:08:55,520 --> 00:08:58,520 Speaker 1: an expiring just like they would attempt to use Evan 184 00:08:58,600 --> 00:09:02,319 Speaker 1: Fournier as if they had kept him. So to me, 185 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:04,719 Speaker 1: this is a great example of a deal kind of 186 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:07,640 Speaker 1: similar to the Ogn Andobi deal that gives them some 187 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:10,880 Speaker 1: increased flexibility with their rotation in the short term, while 188 00:09:10,880 --> 00:09:13,480 Speaker 1: also maintaining their long term flexibility if they want to 189 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:16,320 Speaker 1: make a bigger deal. Alec Burks once again kind of 190 00:09:16,520 --> 00:09:19,320 Speaker 1: a solid second side initiator. He's more of an on 191 00:09:19,400 --> 00:09:22,400 Speaker 1: ball guy than Quinton Grimes was, but he is a 192 00:09:22,480 --> 00:09:24,400 Speaker 1: very good catch and shoot player. He's getting one point 193 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:27,160 Speaker 1: twenty five points per catch and shoot jumper this year. 194 00:09:27,400 --> 00:09:30,960 Speaker 1: He's also a really good athlete at the position. It's 195 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:33,439 Speaker 1: actually funny. I can't remember exactly where I saw it, 196 00:09:33,800 --> 00:09:35,360 Speaker 1: but I remember a couple of years ago I saw 197 00:09:35,400 --> 00:09:39,520 Speaker 1: someone say, I think on Twitter that Alec Burks looks 198 00:09:39,559 --> 00:09:42,079 Speaker 1: like if you were loading an NBA Superstar two guard 199 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:44,160 Speaker 1: and then just stopped at eighty percent. Because like, if 200 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:45,920 Speaker 1: you watch him on the right night, he literally can 201 00:09:45,960 --> 00:09:48,240 Speaker 1: look like some of the better two guards that we've 202 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:49,800 Speaker 1: seen in the league. He just has never been able 203 00:09:49,840 --> 00:09:52,600 Speaker 1: to maintain the consistency in his NBA career. But to me, 204 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:56,080 Speaker 1: like a just a good basketball player that you're bringing in, 205 00:09:56,080 --> 00:09:59,120 Speaker 1: in my opinion, and upgrade of Quentin Grimes in that 206 00:09:59,200 --> 00:10:01,560 Speaker 1: deal also shot for forty one percent on pull up 207 00:10:01,640 --> 00:10:03,960 Speaker 1: jump shots this year. His creation data in Detroit was 208 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:07,040 Speaker 1: actually pretty solid, ironically enough, one hundred and seventy seven 209 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:09,800 Speaker 1: pick and rolls, ISOs and post ups leading to one 210 00:10:09,800 --> 00:10:12,400 Speaker 1: point er excuse me, one hundred and eighty eight points, 211 00:10:12,679 --> 00:10:15,040 Speaker 1: which is one point zero six points per possession, so 212 00:10:15,280 --> 00:10:18,120 Speaker 1: good comfortable amount over a point per possession. That's quality 213 00:10:18,400 --> 00:10:21,400 Speaker 1: second side shot creation. So you brought in two really 214 00:10:21,400 --> 00:10:25,000 Speaker 1: good basketball players, you maintained the salary filler element that 215 00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:27,280 Speaker 1: you need. An upgrade of a key rotation player in 216 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:29,880 Speaker 1: Quenton Grimes never had to give up any sort of 217 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:35,240 Speaker 1: truly significant asset. The excellent season from New York. Upgrading 218 00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:39,440 Speaker 1: on the margins continues. Our next deal, Xavier Tillman and 219 00:10:39,559 --> 00:10:43,680 Speaker 1: Jaden Springer to the Celtics. So, as I talked about yesterday, 220 00:10:43,760 --> 00:10:47,000 Speaker 1: or I should say on Tuesday, in my opinion, the Celtics, 221 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:49,320 Speaker 1: we from what we had heard, had been doing some 222 00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:51,640 Speaker 1: digging on a backup guard. They'd been doing some digging 223 00:10:51,679 --> 00:10:53,800 Speaker 1: on a backup wing, and they had been doing some 224 00:10:53,880 --> 00:10:55,960 Speaker 1: digging on a backup center. And one of the things 225 00:10:55,960 --> 00:10:58,840 Speaker 1: I said was I viewed the backup center position of 226 00:10:58,920 --> 00:11:01,920 Speaker 1: the biggest important So I just have a better feeling 227 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:05,360 Speaker 1: about Derek White, Drew Holliday, Jaylen Brown, and Jason Tatum 228 00:11:05,400 --> 00:11:07,240 Speaker 1: being healthy for a playoff run than I do. Al 229 00:11:07,240 --> 00:11:09,640 Speaker 1: Horford and Christops porzingis that, to me, is where they 230 00:11:09,640 --> 00:11:14,719 Speaker 1: needed a little bit more margin for air. Xavier Tillman, 231 00:11:14,360 --> 00:11:16,840 Speaker 1: I obviously he's not as good as an Andre Drummond, 232 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:20,080 Speaker 1: but in my opinion, a very solid backup big to 233 00:11:20,160 --> 00:11:22,439 Speaker 1: go to. This is a guy that slides his feet 234 00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:26,800 Speaker 1: pretty well and as good anticipation guarding bigger, stronger forwards 235 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:29,040 Speaker 1: around the league. So, like, I think he's an option 236 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:31,199 Speaker 1: that you can throw at the likes of bam Adebayo 237 00:11:31,320 --> 00:11:35,560 Speaker 1: or Jannison Tenakumpo or Julius Randall for maybe a couple 238 00:11:35,559 --> 00:11:38,320 Speaker 1: of minutes a half just to kind of give yourself 239 00:11:38,320 --> 00:11:41,480 Speaker 1: a decent option in that specific situation. He's one of 240 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:45,160 Speaker 1: those guys too that like like not a high percentage 241 00:11:45,160 --> 00:11:47,760 Speaker 1: three point shooter, but will take him and a guy 242 00:11:47,760 --> 00:11:50,120 Speaker 1: that can make them. And so I just thought it 243 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:53,400 Speaker 1: was a solid backup option, a more steady backup option 244 00:11:53,440 --> 00:11:55,200 Speaker 1: than some of the other options that they've gone to, 245 00:11:55,640 --> 00:11:58,560 Speaker 1: and brings a real like size and physicality to the 246 00:11:58,600 --> 00:12:01,120 Speaker 1: position that I think will be valuable to them in 247 00:12:01,160 --> 00:12:05,920 Speaker 1: the playoffs. Jayden Springer outstanding athlete at the guard position, 248 00:12:06,160 --> 00:12:09,640 Speaker 1: one of the better perimeter defender prospects that we've seen 249 00:12:09,679 --> 00:12:12,880 Speaker 1: from the guard position in a long time. Really limited 250 00:12:12,920 --> 00:12:15,400 Speaker 1: offensively and has a lot to gain on that end 251 00:12:15,440 --> 00:12:17,480 Speaker 1: of the floor, but he's only twenty one years old. 252 00:12:17,679 --> 00:12:20,240 Speaker 1: But the defensive end is what is exciting. Last night 253 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:24,839 Speaker 1: against Steph Curry, from the opening tip, just bal denial, aggression, 254 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:28,320 Speaker 1: physical all over the floor. Did a great job kind 255 00:12:28,360 --> 00:12:31,760 Speaker 1: of taking Steph out of the offense. Now, it was 256 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:34,240 Speaker 1: a team wide scheme from Nick Nurse, which we'll talk 257 00:12:34,240 --> 00:12:36,160 Speaker 1: about in a little bit, but I thought it was 258 00:12:36,160 --> 00:12:39,360 Speaker 1: a really impressive individual performance from Jaden Springer. And here's 259 00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:40,800 Speaker 1: the thing. I don't think Jayden Springer is going to 260 00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:43,400 Speaker 1: be some sort of significant weapon for the Celtics this season. 261 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:46,360 Speaker 1: But for basically a second round pick to bring in 262 00:12:46,400 --> 00:12:48,800 Speaker 1: a twenty one year old guard prospect that has the 263 00:12:48,800 --> 00:12:51,600 Speaker 1: potential to be an awesome defensive player, I really like 264 00:12:51,640 --> 00:12:55,040 Speaker 1: the move so good. Couple of upgrades for the Celtics 265 00:12:56,520 --> 00:13:00,319 Speaker 1: David Roddy and Royce O'Neil to the Suns to more 266 00:13:00,360 --> 00:13:03,200 Speaker 1: physical and defensive minded players to give them a different 267 00:13:03,240 --> 00:13:06,520 Speaker 1: look on the perimeter. David Roddy is huge and has 268 00:13:06,520 --> 00:13:09,559 Speaker 1: a lot of versatility defensively on the front line. Once again, 269 00:13:10,040 --> 00:13:12,960 Speaker 1: big forwards in the conference that it's just a good 270 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:15,199 Speaker 1: thing to have on the roster, which was something that 271 00:13:15,240 --> 00:13:17,600 Speaker 1: Phoenix didn't really have. When you're gonna run into a 272 00:13:17,640 --> 00:13:20,199 Speaker 1: team like Denver that's gonna you know, we saw it 273 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:23,280 Speaker 1: with Miami last year that they just were like, oh, 274 00:13:23,320 --> 00:13:25,040 Speaker 1: we're just gonna go to Aaron Gordon on the post 275 00:13:25,040 --> 00:13:26,360 Speaker 1: every time because they don't have a guy who can 276 00:13:26,360 --> 00:13:28,720 Speaker 1: guard it right. And so like you're gonna see teams 277 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:31,200 Speaker 1: like Denver attacking the post. Need to have a big, 278 00:13:31,240 --> 00:13:33,440 Speaker 1: strong forward as an option there, right. Teams like the 279 00:13:33,480 --> 00:13:36,080 Speaker 1: Lakers gonna attack in the post, need a big, strong 280 00:13:36,200 --> 00:13:39,320 Speaker 1: forward that you can go to as an option there, 281 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:42,240 Speaker 1: even like something like a Kawhi Leonard, having a guy 282 00:13:42,360 --> 00:13:45,160 Speaker 1: like a David Roddy that just can hold up better 283 00:13:45,240 --> 00:13:47,560 Speaker 1: under some of the physical approach of a Kawhi Leonard, 284 00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:51,000 Speaker 1: it's a good option and then Royce O'Neil, he's your 285 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:53,880 Speaker 1: Textbook three and D guard. It's an excellent catch and 286 00:13:53,880 --> 00:13:56,280 Speaker 1: shoot player when he has space, kind of similar to 287 00:13:56,360 --> 00:13:58,040 Speaker 1: a lot of the guys on this list were like, 288 00:13:58,080 --> 00:14:00,760 Speaker 1: when they're unguarded, they're really good, but then and they're contested, 289 00:14:00,800 --> 00:14:02,920 Speaker 1: the percentages take a dip. But he has a one 290 00:14:02,960 --> 00:14:06,439 Speaker 1: point two seven points per possession on unguarded catch and 291 00:14:06,440 --> 00:14:10,040 Speaker 1: shoot jump shots, which is excellent in general attacking close 292 00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:13,400 Speaker 1: out sixty seventh percentile one point one to one points 293 00:14:13,600 --> 00:14:17,280 Speaker 1: per possession. So again, you've given yourself options here. The 294 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:21,520 Speaker 1: Suns didn't really have a guard that could credibly defend 295 00:14:21,600 --> 00:14:25,040 Speaker 1: while also credibly spacing the floor. Now they have that 296 00:14:25,560 --> 00:14:28,120 Speaker 1: as an option. They didn't have a forward that had 297 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:30,080 Speaker 1: some real girth to be able to hold up against 298 00:14:30,120 --> 00:14:33,040 Speaker 1: some of the bigger forwards in the conference. Now they 299 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:35,400 Speaker 1: have that as an option. So a couple of smart 300 00:14:35,480 --> 00:14:39,960 Speaker 1: upgrades from the Phoenix Suns. Next PJ. Washington to the 301 00:14:40,040 --> 00:14:43,760 Speaker 1: Dallas Mavericks. This is a super athletic wing once again, 302 00:14:43,840 --> 00:14:45,040 Speaker 1: kind of like some of the other guys who talked 303 00:14:45,040 --> 00:14:46,600 Speaker 1: about on this list, can shoot the ball when he's 304 00:14:46,640 --> 00:14:50,080 Speaker 1: given all day, He's thirty nine percent on unguarded catch 305 00:14:50,120 --> 00:14:52,720 Speaker 1: and shoot jump shots, but any sort of close out 306 00:14:52,720 --> 00:14:56,160 Speaker 1: he struggles against zero point eighty eight points per possession 307 00:14:56,200 --> 00:14:59,000 Speaker 1: in spot up situations, which is in the second twenty 308 00:14:59,040 --> 00:15:02,200 Speaker 1: second percentile, so pretty bad on that front. The Hornets 309 00:15:02,240 --> 00:15:04,040 Speaker 1: used him a lot as a screen and role player, 310 00:15:04,080 --> 00:15:06,760 Speaker 1: caught a lot on the short role, and so I 311 00:15:06,760 --> 00:15:10,880 Speaker 1: could imagine them using him like that, with Luca essentially 312 00:15:10,880 --> 00:15:13,480 Speaker 1: setting ball screens, rolling into space as an athlete where 313 00:15:13,520 --> 00:15:16,120 Speaker 1: he can make some decisions, and just next to Derek 314 00:15:16,160 --> 00:15:18,400 Speaker 1: Jones Junior, now they can I kind of view those 315 00:15:18,400 --> 00:15:20,280 Speaker 1: two guys as a little bit of a redundancy, but 316 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:23,240 Speaker 1: like now they can bring some athleticism to the table 317 00:15:23,800 --> 00:15:26,080 Speaker 1: alongside their core guys. So I thought that was an 318 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:28,480 Speaker 1: interesting little upgrade. I know the Dallas was pretty frustrated 319 00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:30,680 Speaker 1: with Grant Williams in general in the way that he 320 00:15:30,720 --> 00:15:34,160 Speaker 1: had played this season. All right, our last trade Gordon 321 00:15:34,200 --> 00:15:38,560 Speaker 1: Hayward to the Oklahoma City Thunder. So this is an 322 00:15:38,560 --> 00:15:42,320 Speaker 1: interesting example of a stopgap move in the sense that, 323 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:45,840 Speaker 1: like it was clear that the Thunder didn't quite have 324 00:15:45,920 --> 00:15:48,360 Speaker 1: their closing five worked out because Giddy's the odd man 325 00:15:48,400 --> 00:15:50,560 Speaker 1: out in a lot of ways, and it was clear 326 00:15:50,560 --> 00:15:52,760 Speaker 1: that they needed a bigger forward, but it was also 327 00:15:52,800 --> 00:15:54,600 Speaker 1: clear that they weren't ready to make some sort of 328 00:15:54,640 --> 00:15:57,640 Speaker 1: all in move, like to call Utah and offer them 329 00:15:57,720 --> 00:16:00,280 Speaker 1: six first round draft picks for Lori Markinen or something 330 00:16:00,280 --> 00:16:04,160 Speaker 1: along those lines. Right, So I also had heard that, okay, see, 331 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:06,200 Speaker 1: really just wanted to see what this group can do 332 00:16:06,240 --> 00:16:09,600 Speaker 1: in the playoffs before they decide what they need. I 333 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:12,360 Speaker 1: kind of think the need is obvious, but that was 334 00:16:12,400 --> 00:16:14,680 Speaker 1: their approach. They wanted to make a one year run 335 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:16,680 Speaker 1: at it and then kind of zoom out and make 336 00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:20,360 Speaker 1: a decision from there and so on that perspective, Gordon 337 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:23,440 Speaker 1: Hayward makes a ton of sense because he's a veteran. 338 00:16:23,640 --> 00:16:26,560 Speaker 1: Now you actually bring a real I should I don't 339 00:16:26,560 --> 00:16:29,240 Speaker 1: want to say adult, because those guys are adults, but 340 00:16:29,320 --> 00:16:32,800 Speaker 1: like in terms of veteran, actual experience in the NBA, 341 00:16:32,880 --> 00:16:35,200 Speaker 1: Gordon Hayward brings that to the lineup, and he's just 342 00:16:35,240 --> 00:16:38,000 Speaker 1: a better option as a fifth guy in the lineup 343 00:16:38,040 --> 00:16:40,360 Speaker 1: than Josh Skitty. He's a dead eye catch and shoot guy, 344 00:16:40,440 --> 00:16:44,000 Speaker 1: unguarded catch and shoot jump shots one point four points 345 00:16:44,040 --> 00:16:46,720 Speaker 1: per possession, which is insane. Also pretty good at the 346 00:16:46,800 --> 00:16:48,960 Speaker 1: rim this year sixty six percent at the RIM. And 347 00:16:49,040 --> 00:16:52,800 Speaker 1: so I'm I like the idea is just like, now 348 00:16:52,840 --> 00:16:57,120 Speaker 1: you go into the playoffs, you have Chet, Gordon, Jalen, Sga, 349 00:16:57,200 --> 00:17:00,800 Speaker 1: and Dort basically is your core five at your games 350 00:17:00,800 --> 00:17:05,439 Speaker 1: with a little bit more experience and and and like 351 00:17:05,520 --> 00:17:08,320 Speaker 1: Gordon Award has played in the playoffs before, so just 352 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:10,200 Speaker 1: gives you a little bit more experience on that front. 353 00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:12,040 Speaker 1: I thought it was an interesting option. And guess what 354 00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:15,159 Speaker 1: we will learn. We will learn from Okay, see this 355 00:17:15,240 --> 00:17:19,040 Speaker 1: year what they are capable of on that stage in 356 00:17:19,080 --> 00:17:20,840 Speaker 1: a big way, and then we will find out this 357 00:17:20,920 --> 00:17:24,960 Speaker 1: offseason whether or not they need to do something more substantial. Okay, 358 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:27,159 Speaker 1: two more quick notes on the trade deadline before we 359 00:17:27,240 --> 00:17:30,720 Speaker 1: move on to games the Lakers doing nothing. I don't 360 00:17:30,760 --> 00:17:33,600 Speaker 1: want to go too far into this because we're covering 361 00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:38,280 Speaker 1: the Lakers tonight after Lakers Nuggets, So we'll talk about 362 00:17:38,280 --> 00:17:40,480 Speaker 1: it a little bit more in the instant reaction after 363 00:17:40,520 --> 00:17:42,800 Speaker 1: the game, and then, like I said, we have Yovann 364 00:17:42,800 --> 00:17:45,800 Speaker 1: Buja coming on the show tomorrow. Here's all I'm gonna say. 365 00:17:46,920 --> 00:17:50,439 Speaker 1: I always feel a little bit of reticence when it 366 00:17:50,480 --> 00:17:53,520 Speaker 1: comes to criticizing front offices for what they do in 367 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:57,639 Speaker 1: terms of trades and free agency, because we don't really 368 00:17:57,840 --> 00:18:01,000 Speaker 1: truly know what was available. There's a ton of smoke 369 00:18:01,480 --> 00:18:06,080 Speaker 1: this time of year. Reports that serve purpose, serve the 370 00:18:06,119 --> 00:18:10,000 Speaker 1: sole purpose of basically tweaking the public kind of perception 371 00:18:10,160 --> 00:18:13,399 Speaker 1: of value, and it's a lot of gamesmanship going on. 372 00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:16,120 Speaker 1: So like it's really difficult to be like, oh, why 373 00:18:16,119 --> 00:18:17,960 Speaker 1: didn't the Lakers do anything. It's like, we don't even 374 00:18:17,960 --> 00:18:20,480 Speaker 1: know if they actually reach agreement in principle on a deal, 375 00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:23,320 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Like, obviously, I think it's 376 00:18:23,359 --> 00:18:26,280 Speaker 1: safe to say that judging by some of these price points, 377 00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:28,639 Speaker 1: how they put a first round pick out there, they 378 00:18:28,680 --> 00:18:32,200 Speaker 1: could have gotten something gotten something back. But it's hard 379 00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:35,680 Speaker 1: to tell which players exactly would be willing to would 380 00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:38,320 Speaker 1: have been achievable with that first round pick. And then 381 00:18:38,320 --> 00:18:40,080 Speaker 1: once you take that first round pick off the table, 382 00:18:40,119 --> 00:18:42,520 Speaker 1: it does limit some of their ability to do something 383 00:18:42,560 --> 00:18:45,359 Speaker 1: this summer. So I want to be clear, we don't 384 00:18:45,400 --> 00:18:49,080 Speaker 1: know what actually was on the table that said. I 385 00:18:49,119 --> 00:18:52,000 Speaker 1: do know this, I know that the Lakers do not 386 00:18:52,119 --> 00:18:56,960 Speaker 1: have a single starting caliber two or three that can 387 00:18:57,000 --> 00:19:01,480 Speaker 1: both credibly defend and is a positive offensive player. They 388 00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:05,399 Speaker 1: have very one dimensional guys like they have. You know, 389 00:19:05,480 --> 00:19:07,359 Speaker 1: Jared Vanderbilt is a guy who can defend on the 390 00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:10,800 Speaker 1: perimeter but has some offensive limitations. You know, Austin Reeves 391 00:19:10,800 --> 00:19:13,440 Speaker 1: and Dangelo Russell are both excellent offensive players, but they 392 00:19:13,440 --> 00:19:16,760 Speaker 1: have defensive limitations, right Like Torrian Prince is kind of 393 00:19:16,800 --> 00:19:19,880 Speaker 1: considered a two way guy, but in terms of perimeter defense, 394 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:22,720 Speaker 1: he is very much on the average to slightly below 395 00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:25,720 Speaker 1: average side, not the above average to elite side. So 396 00:19:25,760 --> 00:19:28,080 Speaker 1: they don't have anybody on the roster that they can 397 00:19:28,119 --> 00:19:29,919 Speaker 1: throw at a Steph Curry in a playoff series, that 398 00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:32,639 Speaker 1: they can throw at a Jamal Murray in a playoff series, 399 00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:34,639 Speaker 1: that they can throw on a James Harden in a 400 00:19:34,640 --> 00:19:37,480 Speaker 1: playoff series. They don't. They just don't have any options 401 00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:40,879 Speaker 1: on those fronts. And so basically, like I said before 402 00:19:40,920 --> 00:19:44,400 Speaker 1: the season, I said this from the very beginning, I said, 403 00:19:44,440 --> 00:19:48,200 Speaker 1: the Lakers are a contender because they have Lebron James, 404 00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:50,760 Speaker 1: Anthony Davis, and Austin Reeves, and they are poised for 405 00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:54,000 Speaker 1: a mid season upgrade to address their needs. They did 406 00:19:54,040 --> 00:19:56,520 Speaker 1: not make any sort of mid season upgrade to address 407 00:19:56,600 --> 00:19:59,399 Speaker 1: their needs. And so we're gonna do a kind of 408 00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:03,399 Speaker 1: a revamp of the contender tiers that I do right 409 00:20:03,560 --> 00:20:05,920 Speaker 1: probably right around the All Star break, during that week 410 00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:09,680 Speaker 1: off that we have. I have something specific in mind there. 411 00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:12,000 Speaker 1: I think we're gonna get Sam Vassini on and kind 412 00:20:12,040 --> 00:20:15,639 Speaker 1: of dive into it contender by contender, but I have 413 00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:18,840 Speaker 1: to drop the Lakers off of that legitimate title contender tier. 414 00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:23,199 Speaker 1: It's just that, like NBA history tells us that you 415 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:26,560 Speaker 1: have to have these certain boxes checked, not just on 416 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:29,359 Speaker 1: the roster, but also in terms of your approach to 417 00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:32,240 Speaker 1: the regular season, And not only did they not address 418 00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:35,200 Speaker 1: those roster needs, but they also have their twenty seven 419 00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:38,520 Speaker 1: and twenty five. So like at this point they are 420 00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:42,160 Speaker 1: what we can't completely write them off with Lebron James 421 00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:45,320 Speaker 1: and Anthony Davis, but they are just an extreme long 422 00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:47,880 Speaker 1: shot at this point. And the last thing I'll say 423 00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:50,240 Speaker 1: about it is I think it'll be a little bit 424 00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:53,400 Speaker 1: easier to kind of look back on and evaluate fairly 425 00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:56,920 Speaker 1: when Lebron James retires. But here we are five seasons 426 00:20:56,920 --> 00:21:00,480 Speaker 1: into this Lebron James Anthony Davis thing, and I would 427 00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:03,199 Speaker 1: argue two of the five seasons they straight up just 428 00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:05,879 Speaker 1: didn't have a chance to win kind of like closer 429 00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:08,720 Speaker 1: to three out of five pretty much everything after the 430 00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:12,320 Speaker 1: Russell Westbrook trade. And so given the Lebron James Anthony 431 00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:15,920 Speaker 1: Davis Foundation, which I maintain they've been top ten players 432 00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:18,640 Speaker 1: over the course of this entire stretch, at a minimum, 433 00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:21,280 Speaker 1: top fifteen players. To have two, let's just call it 434 00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:24,000 Speaker 1: top fifteen. To have two top fifteen players on the 435 00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:27,760 Speaker 1: roster and to not be able to maintain a championship 436 00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:32,240 Speaker 1: contending roster around them is a damning indictment of the 437 00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:35,359 Speaker 1: Los Angeles Lakers front office and ownership group starting from 438 00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:38,320 Speaker 1: the beginning. Letting Brook Lopez walk, letting Julius Randall walk, 439 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:42,719 Speaker 1: letting Alex Crusoe walk, the Russell Westbrook trade just a 440 00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:46,240 Speaker 1: complete and total lack of understanding or appreciation for the 441 00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:50,320 Speaker 1: way that role players can impact winning specifically athletes that 442 00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:53,119 Speaker 1: can compete on both ends of the floor. Is it 443 00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:57,120 Speaker 1: has been a pretty depressing job, and as a result, 444 00:21:57,240 --> 00:22:00,359 Speaker 1: the second best player of all time, Lebron James, spent 445 00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:03,520 Speaker 1: most of the tail end of his prime fighting uphill 446 00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:07,120 Speaker 1: with rosters that weren't capable of competing with the best 447 00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:09,480 Speaker 1: teams in the league. And it's just it's just sad. 448 00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:11,480 Speaker 1: It is what it is, and it's not over yet. 449 00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:14,720 Speaker 1: They have access to three first round draft picks this summer, 450 00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:17,240 Speaker 1: and they have some salary filler that they can package 451 00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:20,159 Speaker 1: into a deal, and maybe they'll go get somebody. But 452 00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:22,800 Speaker 1: if you look around the landscape of the league, if 453 00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:27,199 Speaker 1: a real somebody becomes available, who who are the Lakers 454 00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:30,239 Speaker 1: out bidding? They're not out bidding the Knicks, but not 455 00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:33,520 Speaker 1: outbidding the thunder Like They're just way there are way 456 00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:35,840 Speaker 1: more teams out there that have way more to offer 457 00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:38,359 Speaker 1: in the trade market than the Lakers do. And so 458 00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:42,400 Speaker 1: to me, like like, it's just it's looking like once 459 00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:45,600 Speaker 1: again that we're going to head into another offseason where 460 00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:47,840 Speaker 1: the Lakers are going to struggle to find two way 461 00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:50,040 Speaker 1: players to put next to Lebron James and Anthony Davis. 462 00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:52,440 Speaker 1: And by the time they actually figure it out, Lebron 463 00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:54,720 Speaker 1: might be too old for it to matter. And and so, 464 00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:58,480 Speaker 1: like I said, it's just sad. And and again like 465 00:22:58,520 --> 00:23:01,600 Speaker 1: we don't really truly know what was available. But in 466 00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:03,960 Speaker 1: a big picture, when you zoom out, I've got five 467 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:07,000 Speaker 1: seasons of Lebron James and Anthony Davis. Twenty twenty, they 468 00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:09,560 Speaker 1: were a top tier contender, won the title twenty twenty one, 469 00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:13,439 Speaker 1: they were top tier contender, injuries undercut them. Then they 470 00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:15,560 Speaker 1: traded for Russell Westbrook, and it's been a lot of 471 00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:19,320 Speaker 1: mediocrity ever since then. They're right around this five hundred 472 00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:22,560 Speaker 1: mark fifty games into the season seemingly every year now, 473 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:25,520 Speaker 1: and it's just not easy to do that when you've 474 00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:29,040 Speaker 1: got foundational pieces like Lebron James and Anthony Davis, and 475 00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:32,160 Speaker 1: so again, just not a good look for the Laker 476 00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:36,520 Speaker 1: front office. One last note, there is a potential saving 477 00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:40,320 Speaker 1: grace for the Lakers. Spencer Dinwittie is going to be 478 00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:42,400 Speaker 1: available in the buy out market, and the Lakers, as 479 00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:45,280 Speaker 1: a first Apron team, will be able to sign him. 480 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:46,800 Speaker 1: And I would imagine there's gonna be a lot of 481 00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:49,400 Speaker 1: teams that are going to be in the running form, 482 00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:53,840 Speaker 1: specifically teams that could use a backcourt athlete. Spencer Dinwittie 483 00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:56,960 Speaker 1: is far from the ideal type of athlete for this 484 00:23:57,040 --> 00:23:59,280 Speaker 1: type of role, specifically the three and D role that 485 00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:02,760 Speaker 1: the Lakers so desperately need. He's a guy that has 486 00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:06,399 Speaker 1: a lot of athletic tools, but doesn't really truly commit 487 00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:09,200 Speaker 1: himself to the defensive end. Of the floor on offense, 488 00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:11,400 Speaker 1: it's a lot of it's a mixed bag. You catch 489 00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:12,840 Speaker 1: him on the right night and he looks like an 490 00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:15,920 Speaker 1: All Star, but like really struggles to finish around the rim. 491 00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:21,000 Speaker 1: His general rim decision making is questionable. So like he's 492 00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:25,000 Speaker 1: a flawed player. But for a veteran minimum pro rated 493 00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:28,600 Speaker 1: end of the season buy out signing, you typically can't 494 00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:31,760 Speaker 1: do much better than a Spencer Dinwiddie. And so he's 495 00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:33,320 Speaker 1: a guy that if the Lakers could get I think 496 00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:36,680 Speaker 1: would be significant. He's a guy that several teams out 497 00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:39,360 Speaker 1: there that I think that could use some perimeter athleticism 498 00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:42,600 Speaker 1: should be looking at all. Right, let's get into our 499 00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:44,960 Speaker 1: instant reactions from last night. So we're gonna start with 500 00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:49,600 Speaker 1: Pelicans Clippers. So the Pelicans just absolutely jumped the Clippers 501 00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:52,880 Speaker 1: early on in this game. They actually won the first 502 00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:55,680 Speaker 1: quarter thirty six to nineteen, and pretty much stiff armed 503 00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:57,760 Speaker 1: him the rest of the way. There's a little bit 504 00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:00,159 Speaker 1: of a comeback, like kind of a semi comeback in 505 00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:03,200 Speaker 1: the early fourth quarter, but the Pelicans immediately extended the 506 00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:05,920 Speaker 1: lead again. They put Zion Williamson on Kawhi Leonard to 507 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:07,840 Speaker 1: kind of match his strength which I thought was really 508 00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:10,760 Speaker 1: smart from a matchup perspective. It also to me is 509 00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:13,200 Speaker 1: like as a defensive assignment where you can get some 510 00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:16,040 Speaker 1: high production out of Zion because it's very singularly focused. 511 00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:18,760 Speaker 1: They put Brandon Ingram on Paul George to match his length, 512 00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:22,400 Speaker 1: and then that allowed them to put Herb Jones Herb Jones, 513 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:25,480 Speaker 1: I should say, on James Harden. And you know, typically 514 00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:28,879 Speaker 1: James Hardy can catch some pretty good matchups in in 515 00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:32,479 Speaker 1: these in his specific role as the third best perimeter 516 00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:35,360 Speaker 1: player on the team. But the Pelicans have the bodies 517 00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:37,080 Speaker 1: to kind of go body for body with these guys, 518 00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:39,359 Speaker 1: and they put Herb Jones, Herb Jones on I always 519 00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:41,480 Speaker 1: call him herb Jones, it's Herb Jones. They put herb 520 00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:44,440 Speaker 1: Jones on Harden, and he just killed him on both 521 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:46,679 Speaker 1: ends of the floor to start the game. Was locking 522 00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:49,600 Speaker 1: him up at the point of attack, forcing turnovers, applying 523 00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:51,320 Speaker 1: really good pressure on him, and pick and roll to 524 00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:55,200 Speaker 1: make those cross court passes to like Terrence Man difficult. 525 00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:58,600 Speaker 1: I clipped a couple examples of this. But when you 526 00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:01,800 Speaker 1: put when you're defending in pick and roll ball pressure 527 00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:05,000 Speaker 1: is so so so important because you know, especially on 528 00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:08,240 Speaker 1: a team like the Pelicans that's gonna bring deionas Valanchuniz 529 00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:10,439 Speaker 1: so far out in the coverage out to the perimeter, 530 00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:13,000 Speaker 1: there's going to be openings on the weak side. And 531 00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:15,480 Speaker 1: so if I can get that pass over the top 532 00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:18,159 Speaker 1: on time and on target, on a rope to the 533 00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:21,920 Speaker 1: shooting pocket, my defense is compromised, and Terrence Man's either 534 00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:23,440 Speaker 1: gonna have a wide open catch and shoot three, or 535 00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:24,719 Speaker 1: he is gonna be able to drive and kick out 536 00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:26,679 Speaker 1: of it, and they're gonna get great looks. But if 537 00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:29,240 Speaker 1: I can pressure the basketball and I can force a 538 00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:32,520 Speaker 1: looping pass or a deflected pass, it buys me a 539 00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:35,320 Speaker 1: chance to rotate. And Herb Jones is just so good 540 00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:39,240 Speaker 1: with that active hands, high hands, getting those deflections and 541 00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:42,320 Speaker 1: bothering those over the top passes. He was also beating 542 00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:44,040 Speaker 1: Harden on the other end of the floor just by 543 00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:46,920 Speaker 1: running his lane in transition, getting out in front of him, 544 00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:51,560 Speaker 1: hutting back door, just really really active early in the game. 545 00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:54,720 Speaker 1: Dominated that matchup with James Harden, which went a long 546 00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:57,520 Speaker 1: way to the early lead for the Pelicans, and then 547 00:26:57,560 --> 00:27:00,480 Speaker 1: on the other end of the floor, just really high 548 00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:03,560 Speaker 1: level driving kick basketball from the Pelicans. I cut a 549 00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:07,440 Speaker 1: lot of examples of high level closeout attacking from the Pels, 550 00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:09,639 Speaker 1: and I want to Giveon Williamson a lot of credit 551 00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:11,679 Speaker 1: for this one, because they were using a combination of 552 00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:15,879 Speaker 1: pick and rolls in Zion ISOs to basically pull the 553 00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:19,200 Speaker 1: Clippers players down into help, and when they would pull 554 00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:22,080 Speaker 1: them into help, quick on point swing passes and then 555 00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:25,840 Speaker 1: quick decisions attacking closeouts ended up generating the offense. CJ. 556 00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:30,000 Speaker 1: McCollum was particularly great early in the game attacking closeouts. 557 00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:33,240 Speaker 1: Larry Nance Junior even had one against plumb Lee where 558 00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:36,440 Speaker 1: he drove and kicked to Trey Murphy in the left 559 00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:40,440 Speaker 1: corner for three. They converted twenty six spot up opportunities 560 00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:43,399 Speaker 1: in this game into thirty points. That's one point one 561 00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:46,520 Speaker 1: five points per possession, which is obviously amazing. They're at 562 00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:51,040 Speaker 1: one point one for the season, which ranks sixth in 563 00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:53,840 Speaker 1: the NBA, So it's typically something that they are great at. 564 00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:57,240 Speaker 1: And like again, Zion Williamson, just his ability when he's 565 00:27:57,320 --> 00:27:59,359 Speaker 1: kind of bringing the ball down the floor with some 566 00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:01,560 Speaker 1: verve and get it into those in and out dribbles. 567 00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:04,359 Speaker 1: How it just kind of causes everybody to kind of 568 00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:07,359 Speaker 1: coalesce around him, and like there was a specific play 569 00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:09,920 Speaker 1: where Zion brought the ball off the floor in semi transition. 570 00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:12,280 Speaker 1: He's right at the top of the key and I 571 00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:14,760 Speaker 1: think it was Paul George sinks all the way down 572 00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:16,800 Speaker 1: to the nail because it's part of the you know, 573 00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:18,240 Speaker 1: that's kind of what you have to do against a 574 00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:20,399 Speaker 1: real downhill athlete. You have to build a wall, so 575 00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:22,600 Speaker 1: to speak. And when you build a wall, you generate 576 00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:27,320 Speaker 1: closeout opportunities, and that specific slot closeout is really important. 577 00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:31,640 Speaker 1: You can imagine ball handler on ball defender helper at 578 00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:35,520 Speaker 1: the nail. So this guy here not only does he 579 00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:38,920 Speaker 1: know he has a closeout opportunity, he knows where the 580 00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:41,600 Speaker 1: angle of the closeout's coming from. Paul George is going 581 00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:44,640 Speaker 1: to be closing out to his left hand side and 582 00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:46,360 Speaker 1: trying to chase him off the line because he's a 583 00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:49,360 Speaker 1: good shooter. So that is a read that you have 584 00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:52,840 Speaker 1: to make as the spot up player to quickly catch 585 00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:54,680 Speaker 1: and rip to the right. And if you watch the play, 586 00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:55,800 Speaker 1: and I clip this one and put it in my 587 00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:59,160 Speaker 1: thread this morning, he Zion Williamson makes a swing pass 588 00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:02,200 Speaker 1: CJ's he already loading up for the writ before the 589 00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:04,360 Speaker 1: ball gets to him and then he catches and racks 590 00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:06,760 Speaker 1: to the right. Paul George has no chance to keep 591 00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:09,000 Speaker 1: him in front because he's so far out of position, 592 00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:11,880 Speaker 1: and CJ drives right into the lane. Zubah steps up, 593 00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:13,920 Speaker 1: but he just stops and pops like a little floater 594 00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:16,760 Speaker 1: in the lane. That's really high level, closed out attacking, 595 00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:20,480 Speaker 1: reading the help defender, knowing where your angle is, stopping 596 00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:24,800 Speaker 1: short instead of over penetrating, getting an offensive foul, challenging 597 00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:27,120 Speaker 1: a rim protector or something stooping like the stupid like that, 598 00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:30,960 Speaker 1: the high level finish, which is the high soft floater. 599 00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:33,920 Speaker 1: But Zion was causing a lot of issues for the 600 00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:35,840 Speaker 1: Clippers with them loading up on him. He had ten 601 00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:38,120 Speaker 1: assists in that game, and he kind of closed the 602 00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:40,560 Speaker 1: deal because the Pelicans won up thirty six to nineteen 603 00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:43,240 Speaker 1: after the first quarter, and they kind of stiff armed 604 00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:46,040 Speaker 1: the Clippers until the second half when they made it 605 00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:47,440 Speaker 1: a little bit of a run. They actually got it 606 00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:50,640 Speaker 1: back down to four, and then Zion had back to 607 00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:54,080 Speaker 1: back and once against plumb Lee underneath the basket, and 608 00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:58,040 Speaker 1: then Jose Alvarado hit a three in the right corner. 609 00:29:58,080 --> 00:29:59,600 Speaker 1: It was like bang, bang bang. Next thing, you know, 610 00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:02,400 Speaker 1: they're up double digits again and the game is over. 611 00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:06,720 Speaker 1: So really really impressive two way game from Zion Williamson. 612 00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:10,600 Speaker 1: The Pelicans have won four games in a row. They 613 00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:13,920 Speaker 1: had dropped three in a row before that, to the Thunder, 614 00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:16,400 Speaker 1: the Bucks, and the Celtics, and they didn't really compete 615 00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:18,640 Speaker 1: in those games either, and that's been kind of a 616 00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:21,240 Speaker 1: theme this year, like they just kind of have been 617 00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:23,560 Speaker 1: getting blown out by some of the better teams in 618 00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:27,600 Speaker 1: the league. They're three and six before last night against 619 00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:30,600 Speaker 1: the teams that were in my top five list of contenders, 620 00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:32,680 Speaker 1: and last night was a big step in the right 621 00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:36,040 Speaker 1: direction on that front. They went into La and dominated 622 00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:38,320 Speaker 1: the Clippers really good on both ends of the floor 623 00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:41,320 Speaker 1: during this four game stretch. A one to twenty three 624 00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:45,520 Speaker 1: offensive rating, a one oh seven defensive rating, outscoring opponents 625 00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:49,760 Speaker 1: by sixteen points per one hundred possessions. So really impressive 626 00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:53,560 Speaker 1: stretch of basketball from the Pelicans. On the Clippers front, 627 00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:57,440 Speaker 1: super sloppy. They were getting beat down the floor in 628 00:30:57,480 --> 00:31:01,240 Speaker 1: transition multiple times. Earlier in the game, Kawhi Leonard got 629 00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:03,880 Speaker 1: ripped in the back court for a pick six, James 630 00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:06,280 Speaker 1: Harden got ripped in the back court for a pick six. 631 00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:08,480 Speaker 1: This is all in the first quarter too, and then 632 00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:11,640 Speaker 1: on defense they were overhelping and losing sight of man 633 00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:15,240 Speaker 1: and ball. And like, here's the thing, this is this 634 00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:18,880 Speaker 1: happens in the NBA. It just does. No team is 635 00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:23,440 Speaker 1: immune to it. Like like like every every team that 636 00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:27,120 Speaker 1: comes out the gates and kicks everyone's butt, they always 637 00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:30,040 Speaker 1: have a stretch where they really struggle. The twenty twenty 638 00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:32,840 Speaker 1: two Warriors, what they start fifteen to one, and they 639 00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:35,640 Speaker 1: were what one or two seed most of the season, 640 00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:38,120 Speaker 1: but even before Steph got hurt, they had a stretch 641 00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:39,760 Speaker 1: where they dropped a bunch of games in a row. 642 00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:42,920 Speaker 1: It happens, you know, like the U. I remember the 643 00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:46,240 Speaker 1: Lakers in twenty twenty they started what twenty four and three, 644 00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:49,520 Speaker 1: and then they literally right around Christmas lost four games 645 00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:52,560 Speaker 1: in a row. So like it, it's just just about 646 00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:55,760 Speaker 1: guaranteed to happen. Because you play eighty two games, there's 647 00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:58,480 Speaker 1: an inevitable you know, kind of ebb and flow with 648 00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:02,000 Speaker 1: your effort and focus and in things along those lines. 649 00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:05,800 Speaker 1: The key is not letting it happen. Very often. This 650 00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:09,160 Speaker 1: is one of those things where it's a completely acceptable 651 00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:11,960 Speaker 1: thing to happen, but you just want to avoid it 652 00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:16,000 Speaker 1: happening in mass You want to avoid it happening too frequently, right, 653 00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:17,840 Speaker 1: Like that kind of thing can happen. I want to 654 00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:20,320 Speaker 1: give the Pelicans credit too, Like they just came out 655 00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:23,560 Speaker 1: from the opening tip, brought a ton of physicality at 656 00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:26,200 Speaker 1: the point of attack, a ton of length and athleticism. 657 00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:27,920 Speaker 1: They can really bother you on that front, and they 658 00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:30,640 Speaker 1: had a really smart offensive game plan and got a 659 00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:35,400 Speaker 1: big win. All right. Moving on to Warriors sixers, So 660 00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:37,960 Speaker 1: kind of a classic Nick Nurse game in the sense 661 00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:41,959 Speaker 1: that from the opening tip he takes Jaden Springer and 662 00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:45,080 Speaker 1: just tells him to faceguard Steph Curry. All over the floor. 663 00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:48,360 Speaker 1: They were doing really physical handoff switches to where like 664 00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:51,360 Speaker 1: Jaden's like hands on Steph as he's moving around, and 665 00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:53,040 Speaker 1: then if there's a screen that he gets caught on, 666 00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:56,000 Speaker 1: it's like he's almost like passing Steph to the next 667 00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:58,200 Speaker 1: guy who's immediately got his hands on him. And like 668 00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:00,640 Speaker 1: they're just being physical all over the place. And as 669 00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:03,240 Speaker 1: a result, like there's just a ton of space for 670 00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:07,320 Speaker 1: the Warriors to play four on four basketball off of him, 671 00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:10,120 Speaker 1: right and like it like and again, like Nick Nurse 672 00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:13,040 Speaker 1: is always into this like kind of janky defensive scheme 673 00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:16,080 Speaker 1: where he's super aggressive, throw the damn kitchen sink at 674 00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:17,760 Speaker 1: your best player, and just kind of live with the 675 00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:21,160 Speaker 1: results on the backside. This was kind of a textbook 676 00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:24,400 Speaker 1: Nick Nurse Knight in that regard. But they were blitzing 677 00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:27,120 Speaker 1: him on ball screens. They were just forcing anybody else 678 00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:30,560 Speaker 1: to beat them, and they did. I thought Andrew Wiggins 679 00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:33,080 Speaker 1: and Jonathan Kaminga sprang the biggest run of the game 680 00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:36,239 Speaker 1: there in the late second early third quarter. They just 681 00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:39,840 Speaker 1: bring wave after wave of athleticism to the table. Like 682 00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:42,400 Speaker 1: Jonathan Kaminga was just beating him up the floor for 683 00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:47,360 Speaker 1: transition dunks, Andrew Wiggins a pushing in transition with the 684 00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:49,800 Speaker 1: ball in his hands, being active around the rim as 685 00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:52,360 Speaker 1: a cutter and as an offensive rebounder. And then it 686 00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:55,680 Speaker 1: just that group brought the beginning of the run there 687 00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:57,720 Speaker 1: at the end of the second quarter, and they came 688 00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:00,600 Speaker 1: out in the first quarter and they just like just 689 00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:04,560 Speaker 1: completely blitzed the Sixers and it was a blowout in 690 00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:08,080 Speaker 1: no time. And honestly, it's just a really athletic group 691 00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:10,719 Speaker 1: when you have those two guys out there, And this 692 00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:14,080 Speaker 1: is something I've been preaching preaching on pretty much all 693 00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:17,640 Speaker 1: all season after as we were approaching the deadline, like 694 00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:22,920 Speaker 1: lean on Draymond Green, Jonathan Kaminga Andrew Wiggins as your 695 00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:28,480 Speaker 1: frontline because it's your best combination of athleticism and physicality 696 00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:32,760 Speaker 1: to give you your best bet at contending in the physical 697 00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:35,000 Speaker 1: areas of the game, because you are not going to 698 00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:38,600 Speaker 1: be some jaw dropping offense when Steph Curry's really your 699 00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:43,640 Speaker 1: only reliable offensive option, like consistent reliable offensive options. So 700 00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:47,439 Speaker 1: like you need to win games with athleticism, you need 701 00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:51,680 Speaker 1: to win games with perimeter defense in physicality and speed, 702 00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:55,000 Speaker 1: and that lineup gives you your best bet. And it 703 00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:58,400 Speaker 1: was interesting because Steve Kerr had mentioned earlier in the 704 00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:01,839 Speaker 1: season that he didn't like Kaminga Wiggins front line and 705 00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:05,720 Speaker 1: that they had struggled in the numbers and he wanted 706 00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:07,560 Speaker 1: to try to make it work, but that it hadn't 707 00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:10,560 Speaker 1: worked to that point in the season. Well, over the 708 00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:13,120 Speaker 1: course of the last ten games, we have one hundred 709 00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:17,080 Speaker 1: and thirty nine minutes of Jonathan Kaminga, Andrew Wiggins and 710 00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:20,759 Speaker 1: Raymond Green as the front line. They have a one 711 00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:23,760 Speaker 1: to twenty five offensive rating, which is off the charts. 712 00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:27,960 Speaker 1: Good and a ninety seven defensive rating, which is off 713 00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:30,879 Speaker 1: the charts good. And like, here's the thing, There's going 714 00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:34,600 Speaker 1: to be moments where Andrew Wiggins has a tough offensive 715 00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:37,960 Speaker 1: night and Jonathan Kaminga is just not quite as sharp 716 00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:40,480 Speaker 1: as he usually is, and the offense will be able 717 00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:42,360 Speaker 1: to grind down a little bit. That's going to be 718 00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:46,360 Speaker 1: baked into some of the limitations of that lineup, but 719 00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:50,520 Speaker 1: it gives them the ability to really grind out games 720 00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:53,400 Speaker 1: in an ugly way. This is a team that needs 721 00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:56,440 Speaker 1: to get stops in runout in transition, this is a 722 00:35:56,440 --> 00:36:00,120 Speaker 1: team that needs to bring real downhill forced to the 723 00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:02,919 Speaker 1: rim to try to just muck things up and win 724 00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:06,799 Speaker 1: ugly with with matchup attacking and I'm just bigger and 725 00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:09,719 Speaker 1: faster than you type of stuff, right that, Like, they 726 00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:12,439 Speaker 1: don't have a legit number two option, and so they're 727 00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:16,040 Speaker 1: not going to be some crazy consistent offense the way 728 00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:18,040 Speaker 1: that like a Denver is going to be. And so 729 00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:21,560 Speaker 1: I think that lineup gives them their best opportunity to 730 00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:26,440 Speaker 1: kind of bring that that that athleticism and defensive end 731 00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:29,400 Speaker 1: of the flour into the equation more frequently. And again, 732 00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:32,160 Speaker 1: like one hundred and thirty nine minutes is a substantial 733 00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:36,560 Speaker 1: sample size. That's that's that's again it's in a ten 734 00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:39,400 Speaker 1: game span, but like they've been kicking people's asses with 735 00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:42,719 Speaker 1: that group, and that's something super encouraging, and like, honestly, 736 00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:47,000 Speaker 1: the next step here is like Kurrs leaning on it 737 00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:49,680 Speaker 1: more in general as a lineup, but I think he 738 00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:52,000 Speaker 1: needs to lean on it in crunch time too, because 739 00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:55,759 Speaker 1: we've seen that the Warriors have had trouble maintaining their 740 00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:59,279 Speaker 1: their success when they get into close games late. That's 741 00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:01,799 Speaker 1: been a consistent stint issue throughout the season. What are 742 00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:04,719 Speaker 1: they lost eighteen games this year that have been within 743 00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:07,640 Speaker 1: five points with less than five minutes left, So it's 744 00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:09,920 Speaker 1: been a consistent issue, and I think sticking with that 745 00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:13,439 Speaker 1: group longer gives their best chance, gives them their best 746 00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:16,960 Speaker 1: chance to contend in the short term during this regular season. 747 00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:19,319 Speaker 1: I also thought it was pretty encouraging games from Klay 748 00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:23,719 Speaker 1: Thompson and from Kavan Looney, both of them have been 749 00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:25,960 Speaker 1: struggling a lot here in the middle portion of the season. 750 00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:28,600 Speaker 1: Looney was super active on the glass and just his 751 00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:32,240 Speaker 1: usual kind of like physical, groundbound game, and Klay Thompson 752 00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:35,759 Speaker 1: just a really under control game took the right shots, 753 00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:38,760 Speaker 1: contended in the physicality areas. It was a really encouraging 754 00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:41,400 Speaker 1: night all round for the Warriors. And by the way, 755 00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:44,399 Speaker 1: they've won four of their last five games, and they've 756 00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:46,840 Speaker 1: won for their last five games, with that one loss 757 00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:50,480 Speaker 1: being that lost to Atlanta where they fell apart in 758 00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:53,040 Speaker 1: crunch time and had all the issues that they had there, 759 00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:56,000 Speaker 1: So like there's a lot to be encouraged about on 760 00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:57,759 Speaker 1: this front. I still think they have a really good 761 00:37:57,800 --> 00:37:59,279 Speaker 1: chance to get into the play in They are only 762 00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:01,479 Speaker 1: one game back of Utah. They're like, I want to say, 763 00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:03,719 Speaker 1: three and a half games back to get into that 764 00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:07,200 Speaker 1: eighth spot to where they can only where they get 765 00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:09,120 Speaker 1: two chances to win one game, which is just a 766 00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:11,840 Speaker 1: better position to be in in the play in tournament. 767 00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:16,480 Speaker 1: So big step forward for the Warriors last night, all right, 768 00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:18,960 Speaker 1: last one before we get out of here. Celtics and 769 00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:21,120 Speaker 1: the Hawks, so it's kind of interesting games. Drew Holliday 770 00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:23,200 Speaker 1: was out and John tim Murray was out, so some 771 00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:26,760 Speaker 1: kind of funky versions of both teams. Celtics went big 772 00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:29,920 Speaker 1: with Al Horford, Derek White, and Jalen Brown I thought 773 00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:32,520 Speaker 1: were the story of the game, particularly setting the tone 774 00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:35,520 Speaker 1: early on Trey Young, just bringing a ton of physicality 775 00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:39,359 Speaker 1: and back pressure and extra efforts in rotation. You can 776 00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:43,680 Speaker 1: tell with Trey Young when he's struggling, when some of 777 00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:46,319 Speaker 1: the drop off passes to Biggs are a little bit 778 00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:48,960 Speaker 1: off target, and when he's missing his floater, because like 779 00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:52,000 Speaker 1: when he starts to rush his floater, that's when you 780 00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:54,359 Speaker 1: can tell you're really bothering Trey Young. And they did 781 00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:56,080 Speaker 1: a really nice job on him. He had just twenty 782 00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:59,799 Speaker 1: points on twenty five shots. They forced him into four turnovers. 783 00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:03,560 Speaker 1: Atlanta got some solid contributions on the wing. Sadik Bay 784 00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:05,840 Speaker 1: and Jalen Johnson were both great. They combined for forty 785 00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:08,160 Speaker 1: four in this game. I just kind of kept things close, 786 00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:11,000 Speaker 1: but then late in the game Jason Tatum and Derek 787 00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:14,200 Speaker 1: White helped them pull away. Tatum was it was interesting 788 00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:16,239 Speaker 1: because it was kind of a microcosm of some of 789 00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:18,440 Speaker 1: the stuff you've seen from him this season down the stretch, 790 00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:21,000 Speaker 1: because it's like he gets Sidiq Bay on a switch 791 00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:25,120 Speaker 1: and he late in the clock ends up settling for 792 00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:27,400 Speaker 1: like a tough pull up three, and you're like, like, 793 00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:29,880 Speaker 1: why didn't he drive to the basket, And then on 794 00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:32,279 Speaker 1: the offensive rebound, he gets back out to him and 795 00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:34,440 Speaker 1: he has Trey Young on him, and he immediately his 796 00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:36,279 Speaker 1: eyes light up and he just rips through into the 797 00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:38,440 Speaker 1: lane and just bounces off all these bodies, gets his 798 00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:40,720 Speaker 1: left handed scoops out. Probably a foul too, like probably 799 00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:44,319 Speaker 1: deserved free throws on that one as well. And then 800 00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:48,000 Speaker 1: I thought the most encouraging sign was he got an 801 00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:50,759 Speaker 1: Yekakongu on a switch on the left wing. A few 802 00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:53,800 Speaker 1: possessions later, and you could see as he was mixing 803 00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:56,239 Speaker 1: up those side to side dribbles, he wanted so bad 804 00:39:56,239 --> 00:39:58,640 Speaker 1: to take that pull up three, but he was. He 805 00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:01,480 Speaker 1: didn't settle, He drove left to got right past the congo. 806 00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:03,800 Speaker 1: Probably should have gotten anan one on that one as well, 807 00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:05,839 Speaker 1: scooped it in. And then late in the game once 808 00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:09,279 Speaker 1: again uh less. It was about thirty seconds left and 809 00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:11,279 Speaker 1: he had Sadik Bay again on the left wing, and 810 00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:14,080 Speaker 1: instead of settling or on the right wing, excuse me, 811 00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:17,320 Speaker 1: instead of settling, just put his head down and tried 812 00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:20,200 Speaker 1: to get downhill, kind of turned the corner a little 813 00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:23,040 Speaker 1: bit to the left and drew in Christops Porzingis's man 814 00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:25,360 Speaker 1: and made a swing pass back out to the perimeter. 815 00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:28,319 Speaker 1: Hit Christops, he knocked down the three that basically iced 816 00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:31,680 Speaker 1: the game, and again, like it's just gonna be it's 817 00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:35,320 Speaker 1: just gonna be a vital importance for that those types 818 00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:38,160 Speaker 1: of developments to take place. For Jason Tatum, Like the 819 00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:41,400 Speaker 1: frustration I thought was encouraging. He was mad when he 820 00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:43,759 Speaker 1: got that and one after he missed the pull up three, 821 00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:46,399 Speaker 1: and he was yelling at the refs, and it's like, dude, 822 00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:51,439 Speaker 1: get frustrated, get irritated. Bring that physical imposition to the game. 823 00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:54,520 Speaker 1: You are one of the best forward athletes in the league, 824 00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:57,040 Speaker 1: and when you bring that, you make your team that 825 00:40:57,160 --> 00:40:59,920 Speaker 1: much harder to guard. And had a good playmaking game too. 826 00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:02,400 Speaker 1: We had two really nice driving kicks to Derek White 827 00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:05,960 Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter, really high quality three point shots. Again, 828 00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:07,840 Speaker 1: that's the name of the game for the Celtics. You 829 00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:10,080 Speaker 1: can play the volume three point shooting game, or you 830 00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:12,200 Speaker 1: can play the quality three point shooting game. And if 831 00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:14,560 Speaker 1: they play the quality three point shooting game, I think 832 00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:16,799 Speaker 1: they're gonna win the title. That's how good I think 833 00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:19,840 Speaker 1: they are. But like, there's it's getting rid of some 834 00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:25,000 Speaker 1: of the early clock, semi contested threes for only OK shooters. 835 00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:26,600 Speaker 1: Those are the ones that they have to kind of 836 00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:28,759 Speaker 1: get out of their system. And then for Tatum, just 837 00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:32,319 Speaker 1: in particular and his matchup attacking using the step back 838 00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:34,719 Speaker 1: three more as a counter like this guy's on his 839 00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:38,520 Speaker 1: heels and giving me space rather or like late clock situation, 840 00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:40,880 Speaker 1: I don't have time to drive, rather than as the 841 00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:43,480 Speaker 1: shot that he hunts in the drive being the counter, 842 00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:46,040 Speaker 1: if that makes sense. And then a couple other things. 843 00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:48,440 Speaker 1: Jalen Brown, I thought his matchup attacking early in the 844 00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:51,120 Speaker 1: game because Jason Tatum was in a little bit of 845 00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:53,960 Speaker 1: a funk early, little aut rhythm. Jalen Brown was bringing 846 00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:58,920 Speaker 1: that just like mid posts ISO attack that kind of 847 00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:01,839 Speaker 1: carried them offensively earlier. And then he brought a really 848 00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:04,719 Speaker 1: good defensive effort and had some really good possessions on 849 00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:06,960 Speaker 1: Trey Young, which is part of their success in that game. 850 00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:10,320 Speaker 1: And then I really liked these Avier Tillman and Jayden 851 00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:13,200 Speaker 1: Springer editions. I thought that they were a good example 852 00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:17,400 Speaker 1: of a team that understands like it's so easy to 853 00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:20,600 Speaker 1: sit there and be like we're the best team, and 854 00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:22,440 Speaker 1: it's so easy to sit there and be like we 855 00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:24,279 Speaker 1: have the best record in the league. We don't need 856 00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:27,080 Speaker 1: to go out and do something. We have our core 857 00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:31,240 Speaker 1: five nailed down. It's gonna be Porzingis, Jalen Brown, Jason Tatum, 858 00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:33,799 Speaker 1: Derek White, Drew Holliday. Those are the five guys, right, So, 859 00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:37,399 Speaker 1: like it's so easy to just be content there. And 860 00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:41,279 Speaker 1: I've always had an appreciation and respect for teams that 861 00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:44,719 Speaker 1: pushed their chips in in the sense that they want 862 00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:47,640 Speaker 1: to buy as much margin for error as possible. It 863 00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:50,919 Speaker 1: is really hard to win an NBA championship. A lot 864 00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:53,640 Speaker 1: has to go right for you. This team, in particular, 865 00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:56,080 Speaker 1: already is up against it in the sense that Jason 866 00:42:56,080 --> 00:42:57,880 Speaker 1: Tatum will not be the best player in a series 867 00:42:57,920 --> 00:43:00,520 Speaker 1: with Milwaukee. He will not be the best player in 868 00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:03,719 Speaker 1: a series against you know, like a like a Miami 869 00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:06,480 Speaker 1: right like we've seen. Although I feel a little bit 870 00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:08,359 Speaker 1: uh iffy about that one because I think I think 871 00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:11,719 Speaker 1: Tatum's gone toe to toe with with Jimmy Butler more 872 00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:14,239 Speaker 1: than once in his career. But like, he's not gonna 873 00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:16,800 Speaker 1: be the best player in a series against the Denver 874 00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:18,600 Speaker 1: Nuggets if they get out of the conference. He's not 875 00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:21,080 Speaker 1: gonna be the best player in a series against the 876 00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:23,640 Speaker 1: Los Angeles Clippers, right, So, like you need to buy 877 00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:26,760 Speaker 1: them as much margin for error as possible and getting 878 00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:29,879 Speaker 1: a higher quality backup center that's got a little bit 879 00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:33,560 Speaker 1: more playoff resiliency. That's a good option for you. I 880 00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:35,640 Speaker 1: thought it was a I thought it was an example 881 00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:39,680 Speaker 1: of a failing to be content of of of truly 882 00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:43,080 Speaker 1: going after the best possible title odds that you can 883 00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:45,560 Speaker 1: get within the scope of this season. So shout out 884 00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:48,239 Speaker 1: to the Boston Celtics. All right, guys, that's all I 885 00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:50,520 Speaker 1: have for today's show. When you're going to be back 886 00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:53,879 Speaker 1: later tonight for an instant reaction after Lakers Nuggets live 887 00:43:53,960 --> 00:44:23,560 Speaker 1: on YouTube, I will see you guys there. The volume